From owner-freebsd-java Sun Jun 16 0:49:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from orca.seaple.icc.ne.jp (orca.seaple.icc.ne.jp [210.170.8.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46FF37B408 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 00:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from firstbase.westbay.fa.jp (cr1-199-037.seaple.icc.ne.jp [202.215.199.37]) by orca.seaple.icc.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-000828) id QAA05234; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 16:43:14 +0900 (JST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Michael Westbay To: j mckitrick Subject: Re: Recommended servlet starter tools? Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 16:44:53 +0900 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020614030118.A41033@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <200206150839.04380.westbay@seaple.icc.ne.jp> <20020616040848.A59622@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <20020616040848.A59622@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200206161644.53787.westbay@seaple.icc.ne.jp> Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org mckitrick-san wrote: > [...] it > seems to take a while to get started, but then the CPU usage tapers off= =2E The startup, loading the JVM, each context, etc. will take some resources= ,=20 yes. Also, the first time you access a page with a newer timestamp than = the=20 current clock, the page will be recompiled. That causes an extra several= =20 seconds for the first acceess. When you start breaking pages up to inclu= de=20 other pages, you need to learn what gets automatically recompiled and wha= t=20 doesn't. > If I have OpenJIT installed an showing up in 'java -version' does this > mean Tomcat is compiled and then run natively? I don't understand the question. Tomcat is compiled and run under the JV= M. =20 OpenJIT will help out the JVM by converting and executing parts of the Ja= va=20 byte code to native code. That's what a JIT does, to my understanding. Nonetheless, I'm glad to hear that you've had an increase in performance. Take care. --=20 Michael Westbay Work: Beacon-IT http://www.beacon-it.co.jp/ Home: http://www.seaple.icc.ne.jp/~westbay Commentary: http://www.japanesebaseball.com/forum/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Sun Jun 16 4: 6:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp (mx1.aist.go.jp [150.29.246.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C3E37B40D for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 04:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpsmtp1.aist.go.jp by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id g5GB5qH19670; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 20:05:52 +0900 (JST) env-from (shudo@computer.org) Received: from mail07.aist.go.jp by rpsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id g5GB5pZ10648; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 20:05:51 +0900 (JST) env-from (shudo@computer.org) Received: from aist.go.jp by mail07.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id g5GB5og15501; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 20:05:50 +0900 (JST) env-from (shudo@computer.org) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 20:05:50 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20020616.200550.925161700.shudoh@localhost> To: freebsd@spatula.net Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shujit with Resin From: shudo@computer.org In-Reply-To: References: <20020615.223954.337812685.shudoh@localhost> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on XEmacs 21.4.6 (Common Lisp) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nick, I could not reproduce your problem. I have tested Resin 2.1.2 with examples belonging to the Resin, shuJIT 0.7.12, JDK 1.3.1p6 and FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE cvsupped in March. Resin just works fine. Can you provide a process to reproduce the crash? AFAIK, the shuJIT port can be compiled only for JDK 1.1.8, not 1.3.1. I set up JITs for 1.3.1 not using the ports system. It is desirable that ports of JITs (OpenJIT, shuJIT and TYA) can be compiled for both 1.3.1 and 1.1.8. A simple way is to provide a port for both versions of JDK. > I'm using shuJIT 0.7.12 built using the FreeBSD ports collection, the > native FreeBSD JDK 1.3.1, and Resin 2.1.2, although the problem also > turned up in Resin 2.1.0. > > I may be able to provide you a FreeBSD environment to hack around in, but > it may take me a few days to get things set up. > > On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 shudo@computer.org wrote: > > > Has anyone been successful in getting Resin (www.caucho.com) to run with > > > shujit? I'm able to get it to handle about 2 requests, and then it goes > > > SIG11 on the third. > > > > > FATAL: Signal 11 occurred out of JIT compiled code. > > > > Resin 2.1.2 works well on my Linux box with shuJIT and Blackdown JDK > > 1.3.1_02b. I suspect a bug of FreeBSD JDK because of it and the error > > message you gave. I have reported the bug to this list once (see the > > attachment). It will be hard to track down. > > > > The work-around for the bug had been enhanced toward shuJIT 0.7.12 and > > it is automatically turned on for the FreeBSD JDK 1.3.1. I hope you > > never see the bug if you use shuJIT 0.7.12 or later. > > > > Anyway, I need more information such as the version number of shuJIT > > and Resin. I will make investigation, but now I do not have FreeBSD > > machines I can login to because those are shut off. > > > > Kazuyuki Shudo shudo@computer.org http://www.shudo.net/ > > -- > "The aptly-named morons.org is an obscenity-laced screed..." > -- Robert P. Lockwood, Catholic League director of research > Nick Johnson, version 2.0 http://www.spatula.net/ Kazuyuki Shudo shudo@computer.org http://www.shudo.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Sun Jun 16 4:14: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5905037B41E for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 04:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 17JXyf-000Oq4-00; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:13:49 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g5GBDm461878; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:13:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:13:47 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Michael Westbay Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended servlet starter tools? Message-ID: <20020616121347.A61848@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20020614030118.A41033@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <200206150839.04380.westbay@seaple.icc.ne.jp> <20020616040848.A59622@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <200206161644.53787.westbay@seaple.icc.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200206161644.53787.westbay@seaple.icc.ne.jp>; from westbay@seaple.icc.ne.jp on Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 04:44:53PM +0900 X-Scanner: exiscan *17JXyf-000Oq4-00*c11mzGE56.U* (Manchester Computing, University of Manchester) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | other pages, you need to learn what gets automatically recompiled and what | doesn't. This is something I know very little about. I know nothing about JSP and/or web design, so I'll have to pick up the details as I go along. However, I'm planning on doing most of my coding as backend stuff, as opposed to dynamic web page content. | > If I have OpenJIT installed an showing up in 'java -version' does this | > mean Tomcat is compiled and then run natively? | | I don't understand the question. Tomcat is compiled and run under the JVM. | OpenJIT will help out the JVM by converting and executing parts of the Java | byte code to native code. That's what a JIT does, to my understanding. I guess my question is how do I know for sure the JIT is activated and being used? Are there constraints on when it is applied, or is it automatically applied to every java class as soon as I define JAVA_COMPILER in my profile? jm -- There are only 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary, and those who don't. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Sun Jun 16 16: 1:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mail.blue-c.com (getaway.blue-c.com [213.208.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7FF37B425 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 16:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Javor Evstatiev/Vienna/Blue-C is out of the office. From: javor.evstatiev@blue-c.com To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 01:01:31 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on MAIL01/Vienna/Blue-C(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 06/17/2002 01:01:44 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I will be out of the office starting 14.06.2002 and will not return until 09.09.2002. I will respond to your message when I return. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Sun Jun 16 16:29:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from www.j-elite.com (www.j-elite.com [203.173.24.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373BF37B410 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 16:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BLACKHAWK (www.j-elite.com [203.173.24.142]) by www.j-elite.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1758921148; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 00:29:46 +1000 (EST) From: "Joe Shevland" To: "j mckitrick" Cc: Subject: RE: Recommended servlet starter tools? Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 00:28:40 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20020616121347.A61848@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If the output from 'java -version' shows that OpenJIT is enabled, you = should be OK. You can make extra sure by defining/exporting this environment variable = in the Tomcat startup script though I guess. After that, you don't have = to do anything special to gain the benefits. Cheers, Joe > I guess my question is how do I know for sure the JIT is activated and > being used? Are there constraints on when it is applied, or is it > automatically applied to every java class as soon as I define > JAVA_COMPILER in my profile? >=20 > jm > --=20 > There are only 10 types of people in this world: > those who understand binary, and those who don't. >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Sun Jun 16 18:13:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from plato.webprogrammers.net (plato.webprogrammers.net [204.221.75.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A3B37B406 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 18:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jstepkaxp (c66.191.144.249.roc.mn.charter.com [66.191.144.249]) by plato.webprogrammers.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5H1Ci2k035733 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 20:12:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jstepka@webprogrammers.net) Message-ID: <01d801c2159c$3521e350$1f01010a@jstepkaxp> From: "Justen Stepka" To: References: Subject: Re: Javor Evstatiev/Vienna/Blue-C is out of the office. Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 20:13:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wouldn't it be nice if we all could take vacations like this? ;-) Justen Stepka ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 6:01 PM Subject: Javor Evstatiev/Vienna/Blue-C is out of the office. > I will be out of the office starting 14.06.2002 and will not return until > 09.09.2002. > > I will respond to your message when I return. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Mon Jun 17 9: 5:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ridge.aps.org (ridge.aps.org [149.28.1.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A677E37B41E for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 09:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcpaul.aps.org (lugnut.aps.org [149.28.3.182]) by ridge.aps.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26063 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:05:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lugnut.aps.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pcpaul.aps.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525C61B5 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:04:55 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Paul Dlug To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: linux-sun-jdk13 hotspot broken under linux_base7? Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:04:55 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200206171204.55032.paul@nerdlabs.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I upgraded my linux_base from 6.1 to 7 and now I get a "HotSpot Virtual Machine Error" when running the linux-sun-jdk13. Under linux_base 6.1 it worked just fine. Is this a know bug? Is there a patch? --Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Mon Jun 17 15:35: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ns3.ideathcare.com (mail.allneo.com [216.185.96.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D8DDA37B42A for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 15:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 34954 invoked by uid 85); 17 Jun 2002 22:35:49 -0000 Received: from jps@funeralexchange.com by ns3.ideathcare.com with qmail-scanner-1.03 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4121. . Clean. Processed in 0.207586 secs); 17 Jun 2002 22:35:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pimpin) (216.138.114.130) by mail.allneo.com with SMTP; 17 Jun 2002 22:35:48 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Jeremy Suo-Anttila" To: Subject: Apache + Tomcat + SSL + Warp. Problems Solved Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 17:37:29 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200206171204.55032.paul@nerdlabs.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After 3 days of trial and error i have found the culprit to be certain versions of IE 5.5 and AOL browsers do not support the SSL properly. Upgrading the browser to the latest version solved the problems. This error did not occur under any versions of Netscape on OSX, Unix or Windows and also was not able to make it error on IE for OSX. Man on man do i love M$ and their lousy browsers :) Thanks Jeremy Suo-Anttila jps@funeralexchange.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Mon Jun 17 15:48:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.presedia.com (ns1.presedia.com [63.209.7.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A87C37B416 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 15:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from presedia.com (adsl-64-173-31-238.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.31.238]) by ns1.presedia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5HMi6e78314; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 15:44:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew.gerweck@presedia.com) Message-ID: <3D0E6636.7010201@presedia.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 15:44:06 -0700 From: Andrew Gerweck User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jps@funeralexchange.com, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache + Tomcat + SSL + Warp. Problems Solved References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you want IE users to be able to work with your site, you should read the following, from the mod_ssl FAQ. If you don't, you'll have lots of connectivity problems. http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.8/ssl_faq.html#io-ie --Andy Gerweck Jeremy Suo-Anttila wrote: > After 3 days of trial and error i have found the culprit to be certain > versions of IE 5.5 and AOL browsers do not support the SSL properly. > Upgrading the browser to the latest version solved the problems. This error > did not occur under any versions of Netscape on OSX, Unix or Windows and > also was not able to make it error on IE for OSX. > > Man on man do i love M$ and their lousy browsers :) > > Thanks > > Jeremy Suo-Anttila > jps@funeralexchange.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Jun 18 4:32:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D900137B406 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 04:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 17KHDf-000OFF-00; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:32:19 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g5IBWIS78413; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:32:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:32:18 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Joe Shevland Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended servlet starter tools? Message-ID: <20020618123217.A78334@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20020616121347.A61848@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from jshevland@j-elite.com on Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 12:28:40AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 12:28:40AM +1000, Joe Shevland wrote: | If the output from 'java -version' shows that OpenJIT is enabled, you should be OK. Okay, I think it's up and running now. The backtraces for exceptions say 'compiled code' and it seems to be a bit easier on the CPU. jm -- Java on a laptop: the JIT hits the fan. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Jun 18 12: 0:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8050E37B408 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28781 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jun 2002 19:00:18 -0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 21:00:18 +0200 (MEST) From: Benjamin Hood To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Linux jdk 1.4 dumps core when not run as root X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0009966337@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [213.61.134.226] Message-ID: <24522.1024426818@www55.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I tried the workaround suggested by Tomas Pluskal: http://freebsd.hanirc.org/holyboard/holyboard.cgi?db=java&mode=view&now=1&no=4067&jd=-1&search_type=content&search_string=linux%20jdk%201.4 It fixes the immediate problem, but it doesn't run that stable. It seems to crash when you do some kinds of I/O operations from a GUI (e.g. saving a file from the NetBeans IDE). Does anybody have any other ideas? Cheers Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Jun 18 16:58:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A355137B400 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 17KSs5-000IuZ-00 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 00:58:49 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g5INwnB82865 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 00:58:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 00:58:48 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Inconsistent RMI call problem Message-ID: <20020619005848.A82823@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a little calculator applet that uses RMI calls to a compute server engine. What is driving me nuts is the RMI stubs don't always seem to work. Sometimes they do, the next compile (with no change to the source) they don't. Here is some relevant output: local:~> rmiregistry& [1] 6623 local:~> cd myjava local:~/myjava> javac engine/ComputeEngine.java local:~/myjava> rmic engine.ComputeEngine local:~/myjava> comp ComputeEngine exception: RemoteException occurred in server thread; nested exception is: java.rmi.UnmarshalException: error unmarshalling arguments; nested exception is: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: engine.ComputeEngine_Stub java.rmi.ServerException: RemoteException occurred in server thread; nested exception is: java.rmi.UnmarshalException: error unmarshalling arguments; nested exception is: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: engine.ComputeEngine_Stub java.rmi.UnmarshalException: error unmarshalling arguments; nested exception is: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: engine.ComputeEngine_Stub java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: engine.ComputeEngine_Stub at sun.rmi.transport.StreamRemoteCall.exceptionReceivedFromServer(StreamRemoteCall.java, Compiled Code) at sun.rmi.transport.StreamRemoteCall.executeCall(StreamRemoteCall.java, Compiled Code) at sun.rmi.server.UnicastRef.invoke(UnicastRef.java, Compiled Code) at sun.rmi.registry.RegistryImpl_Stub.rebind(Unknown Source) at java.rmi.Naming.rebind(Naming.java, Compiled Code) at engine.ComputeEngine.main(ComputeEngine.java, Compiled Code) Engine ready. ^C local:~/myjava> alias comp comp='java -Djava.security.policy=java.policy -Djava.rmi.server.cobebase=. engine.ComputeEngine' local:~/myjava> cat java.policy grant { permission java.security.AllPermission; }; local:~/myjava> Sorry for the long lines. As I said before, this is totally inconsistent, as far as I can tell. I haven't changed the source at all, and I usually run in the same directory all the time. Any ideas? jm -- Java on a laptop: the JIT hits the fan. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Jun 18 17: 4: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540F237B409 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 17KSx2-000J1u-00 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 01:03:56 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g5J03uV82949 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 01:03:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 01:03:55 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: RMI problem, cont. Message-ID: <20020619010355.A82925@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org One more thing I forgot, very important. YES, the stub classes are THERE: local:~/myjava> ls engine/ ComputeEngine.class ComputeEngine_Skel.class ComputeEngine.java ComputeEngine_Stub.class jm -- Java on a laptop: the JIT hits the fan. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Jun 18 17:47:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.presedia.com (ns1.presedia.com [63.209.7.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260AC37B400 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from presedia.com (adsl-64-170-152-109.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.170.152.109]) by ns1.presedia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5J0kOe48383; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:46:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew.gerweck@presedia.com) Message-ID: <3D0FD460.2010301@presedia.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:46:24 -0700 From: Andrew Gerweck User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: j mckitrick Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RMI problem, cont. References: <20020619010355.A82925@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org j mckitrick wrote: > One more thing I forgot, very important. > > YES, the stub classes are THERE: > > local:~/myjava> ls engine/ > ComputeEngine.class ComputeEngine_Skel.class > ComputeEngine.java ComputeEngine_Stub.class > > > jm Are you use the 7.x linux base system? I had RMI troubles once that disappeared when I downgraded (or is it upgraded?) to linux_base6. --Andy Gerweck To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Jun 18 17:53:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB72737B411 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 17KTim-000In8-00; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 01:53:16 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g5J0rFx83235; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 01:53:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 01:53:15 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Andrew Gerweck Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RMI problem, cont. Message-ID: <20020619015314.A83215@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20020619010355.A82925@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3D0FD460.2010301@presedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3D0FD460.2010301@presedia.com>; from andrew.gerweck@presedia.com on Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 05:46:24PM -0700 X-Scanner: exiscan *17KTim-000In8-00*rGMGGJWw42Y* (Manchester Computing, University of Manchester) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 05:46:24PM -0700, Andrew Gerweck wrote: | Are you use the 7.x linux base system? I had RMI troubles once that | disappeared when I downgraded (or is it upgraded?) to linux_base6. Hmm. No, I'm using 6.1 or so. And these problems just seem to come and go without rhyme or reason. The exact same code is compiling and running on a remote machine without a problem. Not that that means anything. ;-) jm -- My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Jun 18 18:58:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp (mx1.aist.go.jp [150.29.246.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D66737B446 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 18:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpsmtp1.aist.go.jp by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id g5J1raH22337; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:53:37 +0900 (JST) env-from (shudo@computer.org) Received: from mail06.aist.go.jp by rpsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id g5J1rag05676; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:53:36 +0900 (JST) env-from (shudo@computer.org) Received: from aist.go.jp by mail06.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id g5J1rZ808801; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:53:35 +0900 (JST) env-from (shudo@computer.org) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:53:38 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20020619.105338.640900190.shudoh@localhost> To: jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Inconsistent RMI call problem From: shudo@computer.org In-Reply-To: <20020619005848.A82823@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20020619005848.A82823@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on XEmacs 21.4.6 (Common Lisp) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: j mckitrick > I have a little calculator applet that uses RMI calls to a compute > server engine. What is driving me nuts is the RMI stubs don't always > seem to work. Has your RMI code worked on other platformes than FreeBSD? If not, your problem may be generic to RMI. > Here is some relevant output: These messages seem to say that the compute server cannot find the stub class named `engine.ComputeEngine_Stub'. Are you sure that the JVM running on the server can find that class? Kazuyuki Shudo shudo@computer.org http://www.shudo.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Jun 18 19:45:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293DD37B40C for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 19:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 17KVTQ-000PF4-00; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 03:45:32 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g5J2jVo84204; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 03:45:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 03:45:31 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: shudo@computer.org Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Inconsistent RMI call problem Message-ID: <20020619034531.A84148@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20020619005848.A82823@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20020619.105338.640900190.shudoh@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20020619.105338.640900190.shudoh@localhost>; from shudo@computer.org on Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 10:53:38AM +0900 X-Scanner: exiscan *17KVTQ-000PF4-00*6dQAeGQGdp.* (Manchester Computing, University of Manchester) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | Has your RMI code worked on other platformes than FreeBSD? | If not, your problem may be generic to RMI. Yes. It runs on a Sun Blade as well. | These messages seem to say that the compute server cannot find the | stub class named `engine.ComputeEngine_Stub'. | Are you sure that the JVM running on the server can find that class? I can't understand how it cannot find those classes. I can list the directory and they are right there. jm -- My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Jun 18 21:10:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from recourse.com (mail.recourse.com [206.171.10.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0919C37B410 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 21:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from recourse.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by recourse.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5J40OVI015718; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 21:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (rross@localhost) by recourse.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id g5J40OL3015715; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 21:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 21:00:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Robert F. Ross" X-Sender: rross@recourse.com To: j mckitrick Cc: shudo@computer.org, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Inconsistent RMI call problem In-Reply-To: <20020619034531.A84148@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org have you tried truss'ing to see if it's making the syscalls to access them or where it's looking? Robert Ross Senior Software Engineer Recourse Technologies, Inc. On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, j mckitrick wrote: > | Has your RMI code worked on other platformes than FreeBSD? > | If not, your problem may be generic to RMI. > > Yes. It runs on a Sun Blade as well. > > | These messages seem to say that the compute server cannot find the > | stub class named `engine.ComputeEngine_Stub'. > | Are you sure that the JVM running on the server can find that class? > > I can't understand how it cannot find those classes. I can list the > directory and they are right there. > > > jm > -- > My other computer is your windows box. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Jun 19 3:17:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995BE37B406 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 03:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 17KcTM-0003lN-00; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:13:56 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g5JADnj86531; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:13:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:13:48 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: "Robert F. Ross" Cc: shudo@computer.org, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Inconsistent RMI call problem Message-ID: <20020619111348.A86492@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20020619034531.A84148@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from rross@recourse.com on Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 09:00:24PM -0700 X-Scanner: exiscan *17KcTM-0003lN-00*wZPfHOLa2nM* (Manchester Computing, University of Manchester) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 09:00:24PM -0700, Robert F. Ross wrote: | have you tried truss'ing to see if it's making the syscalls to access them | or where it's looking? Well, I hoped that would help, but it appears the problem has once again disappeared. This is what I mean. I started my machine, rmiregistry, and 'truss java engine/ComputeEngine' and this time it worked. I don't get it. jm -- My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Jun 19 3:30:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFFA37B417 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 03:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from list1.xs4all.nl (list1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.52]) by smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5JAU3Zc020325 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 12:30:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from root@localhost) by list1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA06996; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 12:30:03 +0200 (CEST) From: "Eelco Cramer" To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Via: imploder /usr/local/lib/mail/news2mail/news2mail at list1.xs4all.nl Subject: Redirects won't work with Apache proxy on Orion (FreeBSD) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 12:29:50 +0200 Organization: XS4ALL Internet BV Message-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm trying to get a configuration running where I can host multiple websites running on Orion. I'm running Orion on FreeBSD. I don't want to run orion as root so I'm using apache as a proxy to Orion. However it seems that redirects don't work properly. I have 2 virtual hosts setup on a hosts that is called www.myserver.com. ProxyVia On ProxyPass / http://localhost:8100/bar/ ProxyPassReverse / http://localhost:8100/bar/ ProxyVia On ProxyPass / http://localhost:8100/foo/ ProxyPassReverse / http://localhost:8100/foo/ When I access www.myserver.com then bar.com will show (prolly because it's the first virtual host). Now, the problem is when I'm trying to access a folder on one of the 2 virtual hosts without a trailing slash the forward will bring me to myserver.com instead of the folder I'm expecting. For example: I'm trying to access: http://www.foo.com/apple This will result in a request to: http://localhost:8100/foo/apple Because this request is accessing a directory Orion will now sent a redirect to: http://localhost:8100/foo/apple/ Will should result in a forward for my browser to: http://www.foo.com/apple/ However for some reason my browser will try to access: http://www.myserver.com/apple/ Also when I'm accessing a page called: http://www.foo.com/apple/page1.jsp And this page sends a redirect by calling: response.sendRedirect("page2.jsp"); My browser will try to access: http://www.myserver.com/apple/page2.jsp instead of http://www.foo.com/apple/page2.jsp So somewhere in the proxying process something is going wrong. Does anyone know a solution for this problem? Is it a known problem? Is my proxy configuration correct? Any ideas would be much appreciated. Cheers, Eelco To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Jun 19 5: 1:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.visp.ru (srv1.visp.ru [213.154.182.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A265F37B406; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 05:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alex.visp.ru ([213.154.182.39] helo=alex) by srv1.visp.ru with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 17Ke9E-000IOH-00; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 16:01:16 +0400 From: "Alexander Zagrebin" To: , , Subject: java/jdk13 and open-motif linking Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 16:01:15 +0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After removing open-motif-devel, java/jdk13 port depends on x11-toolkits/open-motif. Furthermore, it BUILD_DEPENDS on open-motif. Earlier open-motif-devel contained only static libraries, but open-motif installs both (static and shared) versions. So earlier java libraries were linked with static openmotif libraries, but now with shared ones. As jdk13 only BUILD_DEPENDS on open-motif, after installing jdk open-motif may be deinstalled. After this java becomes unusable with X window system. IMHO, there are 2 possible solutions: 1. java/jdk13 must RUN_DEPENDS on x11-toolkits/open-motif or and better 2. to force linking with static openmotif libraries Alexander Zagrebin -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Jun 19 7: 0:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ext-nj2gw-2.online-age.net (ext-nj2gw-2.online-age.net [216.35.73.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D4037B429 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 07:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from int-nj2gw-4.online-age.net (int-nj2gw-4 [3.159.236.68]) by ext-nj2gw-2.online-age.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1/990426-RLH) with ESMTP id JAA26850; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 09:55:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crdns.crd.ge.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by int-nj2gw-4.online-age.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1/990426-RLH) with ESMTP id JAA03142; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 09:55:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exc01crdge.crd.ge.com (exc01crdge.crd.ge.com [3.1.116.47]) by crdns.crd.ge.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5JDtD909250; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 09:55:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exc01crdge.crd.ge.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 09:55:13 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Lapinski, Michael (Research)" To: "'Robert F. Ross'" , j mckitrick Cc: shudo@computer.org, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Inconsistent RMI call problem Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 09:55:12 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Why dont you specify a real codebase, ie non-filesystem but a real URL and server the stub class files up with that. -mtl -------------------------------------------------- Michael Lapinski Computer Scientist GE Corporate Research & Development "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." - IBM Chairman Thomas Watson, 1943 ->-----Original Message----- ->From: Robert F. Ross [mailto:rross@recourse.com] ->Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 12:00 AM ->To: j mckitrick ->Cc: shudo@computer.org; freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG ->Subject: Re: Inconsistent RMI call problem -> -> ->have you tried truss'ing to see if it's making the syscalls ->to access them ->or where it's looking? -> ->Robert Ross ->Senior Software Engineer ->Recourse Technologies, Inc. -> ->On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, j mckitrick wrote: -> ->> | Has your RMI code worked on other platformes than FreeBSD? ->> | If not, your problem may be generic to RMI. ->> ->> Yes. It runs on a Sun Blade as well. ->> ->> | These messages seem to say that the compute server cannot find the ->> | stub class named `engine.ComputeEngine_Stub'. ->> | Are you sure that the JVM running on the server can find ->that class? ->> ->> I can't understand how it cannot find those classes. I can list the ->> directory and they are right there. ->> ->> ->> jm ->> -- ->> My other computer is your windows box. ->> ->> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ->> with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message ->> -> -> ->To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ->with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message -> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Jun 19 7: 7:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD53537B409 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 07:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 17Kg75-000DMd-00; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 15:07:11 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g5JE7Bl88209; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 15:07:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 15:07:11 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: "Lapinski, Michael (Research)" Cc: "'Robert F. Ross'" , shudo@computer.org, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Inconsistent RMI call problem Message-ID: <20020619150711.A88180@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from lapinski@crd.ge.com on Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 09:55:12AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 09:55:12AM -0400, Lapinski, Michael (Research) wrote: | Why dont you specify a real codebase, ie | non-filesystem but a real URL and server the stub | class files up with that. I don't quite understand what you mean. You mean place the server on a remote machine and try it that way? I think I had a firewall issue last time. That's why I'm running/deploying locally for now. jm -- My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Jun 19 7:29:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ext-nj2gw-1.online-age.net (ext-nj2gw-1.online-age.net [216.35.73.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E84537B407 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 07:29:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from int-nj2gw-4.online-age.net (int-nj2gw-4.online-age.net [3.159.236.68]) by ext-nj2gw-1.online-age.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1/990426-RLH) with ESMTP id KAA15075; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:27:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crdns.crd.ge.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by int-nj2gw-4.online-age.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1/990426-RLH) with ESMTP id KAA09696; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:27:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exc01crdge.crd.ge.com (exc01crdge.crd.ge.com [3.1.116.47]) by crdns.crd.ge.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5JERN912541; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:27:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exc01crdge.crd.ge.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:27:23 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Lapinski, Michael (Research)" To: "'j mckitrick'" Cc: "'Robert F. Ross'" , shudo@computer.org, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Inconsistent RMI call problem Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:27:22 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was think along the lines of sticking your _Stub classes up on a local webserver and then running the app with rmi.server.codebase=http://:/ The fact that you start with a codebase of . strikes me as strange. I have a jar file that runs a very lightweight webserver to serve up the stubs if you are interested. -mtl -------------------------------------------------- Michael Lapinski Computer Scientist GE Corporate Research & Development "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." - IBM Chairman Thomas Watson, 1943 ->-----Original Message----- ->From: j mckitrick [mailto:jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org] ->Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 10:07 AM ->To: Lapinski, Michael (Research) ->Cc: 'Robert F. Ross'; shudo@computer.org; freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG ->Subject: Re: Inconsistent RMI call problem -> -> ->On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 09:55:12AM -0400, Lapinski, Michael ->(Research) wrote: ->| Why dont you specify a real codebase, ie ->| non-filesystem but a real URL and server the stub ->| class files up with that. -> ->I don't quite understand what you mean. You mean place the ->server on a ->remote machine and try it that way? I think I had a firewall ->issue last ->time. That's why I'm running/deploying locally for now. -> ->jm ->-- ->My other computer is your windows box. -> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Jun 19 7:58:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863FB37B40D for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 07:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 17KguE-000G0I-00; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 15:57:58 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g5JEvvY88536; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 15:57:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 15:57:57 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: "Lapinski, Michael (Research)" Cc: "'Robert F. Ross'" , shudo@computer.org, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Inconsistent RMI call problem Message-ID: <20020619155757.A88515@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from lapinski@crd.ge.com on Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 10:27:22AM -0400 X-Scanner: exiscan *17KguE-000G0I-00*CtTVQ2WNHxI* (Manchester Computing, University of Manchester) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 10:27:22AM -0400, Lapinski, Michael (Research) wrote: | I was think along the lines of | sticking your _Stub classes up on a local webserver | and then running the app with | rmi.server.codebase=http://:/ | | The fact that you start with a codebase of . strikes me as | strange. I'm running everything in the same directory for now. The applet runs in a different window, of course, and connects to the rmiregistry. | I have a jar file that runs a very lightweight webserver to | serve up the stubs if you are interested. Yes, that would be nice, thanks, -- My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Jun 19 21:21:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from web14407.mail.yahoo.com (web14407.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A90E37B406 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 21:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20020620042126.34305.qmail@web14407.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.88.149.172] by web14407.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 21:21:26 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 21:21:26 -0700 (PDT) From: sonam singh Subject: Tomcat Clusters(HttpSession Replication) To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi Can anyone guide how to do the HttpSession Replication with Tomcat4x in FreeBSD4.5 .i tried to do the Clustering as per sugestion provided by the filip.net but i have not got any sucess.Is there any other way to do the clustering . regards Sonam __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Jun 19 22:54:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.presedia.com (ns1.presedia.com [63.209.7.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904C537B40D for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:54:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from presedia.com (adsl-64-170-152-109.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.170.152.109]) by ns1.presedia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5K5ree33578; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:53:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew.gerweck@presedia.com) Message-ID: <3D116DE4.7060205@presedia.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:53:40 -0700 From: Andrew Gerweck User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sonam singh Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tomcat Clusters(HttpSession Replication) References: <20020620042126.34305.qmail@web14407.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You can always DIY if you can't get Tomcat to work. * Set your own cookie with a random string, this is your session id * Make sure that anything you'd put in the session is in a database. If you're building a robust servlet system, it should probably be stateless; there shouldn't be much in your sessions anyway. * A table associates your session id with the login information. * Use the servlet container's sessions only for caching the table information. If you write it cleanly, this will be faster and more robust than anything Tomcat does for you. It will also be portable to any servlet engine. sonam singh wrote: > hi > Can anyone guide how to do the HttpSession Replication > with Tomcat4x in FreeBSD4.5 .i tried to do the > Clustering as per sugestion provided by the filip.net > but i have not got any sucess.Is there any other way > to do the clustering . > > regards > Sonam > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Jun 19 23:47:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5072037B40A for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 23:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp068-64-151-24.nt01-c4.cpe.charter-ne.com ([24.151.64.68] helo=laredo.retrovertigo.com) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17Kvii-0000BQ-00 for freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 23:47:04 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Dylan Carlson Reply-To: absinthe@pobox.com To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: stdin/console text input handling Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 02:47:01 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200206200247.01180.absinthe@pobox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is somewhat OT in the context of Java and how it runs on FreeBSD -- but I'm hoping at least one or two people might offer some good suggestions. I'm writing a console-based application which needs to do a lot of text input and output via stdin and stdout. java.io.Reader.InputStreamReader and BufferedReader are completely impractical for reading lots of user input in varying ways. This is also bottlenecking my ability to use Java for a number of other things; but namely with this current app it's impossible to proceed without better options. I will eventually need the input to word-wrap at the end of the screen width, for example. People will be using terminal sessions (telnet and ssh) to access this application primarily, with other interfaces to be created afterwards. Am I missing some other bundled classes which have better methods, or can anyone suggest third-party classes that provide easy methods for handling stdin/console input? TIA, -- Dylan Carlson [absinthe@pobox.com] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Jun 19 23:49:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (zaphod.euronet.nl [194.134.128.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295CB37B406 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 23:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5K6nnmq076611; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 08:49:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ernst@zaphod.euronet.nl) Received: (from ernst@localhost) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5K6nmxp076610; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 08:49:48 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ernst de Haan To: absinthe@pobox.com, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: stdin/console text input handling Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 08:49:48 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <200206200247.01180.absinthe@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: <200206200247.01180.absinthe@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200206200849.48593.znerd@FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dylan, My best bet is: Look for a Java-based curses implementation. Ernst On Thursday 20 June 2002 08:47, Dylan Carlson wrote: > This is somewhat OT in the context of Java and how it runs on FreeBSD -- > but I'm hoping at least one or two people might offer some good > suggestions. > > I'm writing a console-based application which needs to do a lot of text > input and output via stdin and stdout. java.io.Reader.InputStreamReader > and BufferedReader are completely impractical for reading lots of user > input in varying ways. > > This is also bottlenecking my ability to use Java for a number of other > things; but namely with this current app it's impossible to proceed without > better options. I will eventually need the input to word-wrap at the end > of the screen width, for example. > > People will be using terminal sessions (telnet and ssh) to access this > application primarily, with other interfaces to be created afterwards. > > Am I missing some other bundled classes which have better methods, or can > anyone suggest third-party classes that provide easy methods for handling > stdin/console input? > > TIA, -- Ernst de Haan EuroNet Internet B.V. "Come to me all who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest" -- Jesus Christ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 20 5: 0:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA0A37B40E for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 05:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ntlworld.com ([213.104.146.54]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020620120049.NLMZ295.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@ntlworld.com>; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 13:00:49 +0100 Message-ID: <3D11C367.9020908@ntlworld.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 12:58:31 +0100 From: Antony T Curtis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020611 X-Accept-Language: en-gb, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dylan Carlson , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: stdin/console text input handling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a curses-inspired library which I can write console programs with. It is incomplete... But it could be just what you need. It's written in 100% java... I also have an earlier sample which has JNI to a native curses library. -- Antony T Curtis BSc Unix Analyst Programmer http://homepage.ntlworld.com/antony.t.curtis/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 20 5:32:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727D937B401 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 05:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp068-64-151-24.nt01-c4.cpe.charter-ne.com ([24.151.64.68] helo=laredo.retrovertigo.com) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17L16x-0006vg-00; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 05:32:27 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Dylan Carlson Reply-To: absinthe@pobox.com To: Antony T Curtis , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: stdin/console text input handling Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 08:32:23 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <3D11C367.9020908@ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <3D11C367.9020908@ntlworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200206200832.23605.absinthe@pobox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday 20 June 2002 07:58am, Antony T Curtis wrote: > I have a curses-inspired library which I can write console programs with. > > It is incomplete... But it could be just what you need. > > It's written in 100% java... > > I also have an earlier sample which has JNI to a native curses library. Thank you (both you and Ernst de Haan). I did see the Java Curses Library on Sourceforge after Ernst replied -- checked it out briefly ... it is a series of classes interfacing with a C library (libjcurses) which gets built at compile time along with the docs and JAR, and depends on libcurses like you mentioned. The javadocs and method names are a little tough for me to follow, but that said, I'm only alive because of copious amts of coffee at the moment. It seems reasonably complete, but I still don't know most of what I'm looking at. The developer (Alexei Chmelev) seems very cool, but English clearly is not his native tongue. It compiles fine on FreeBSD; but I haven't tested it yet. [ http://sourceforge.net/projects/javacurses/ ] I would _definitely_ prefer a 100% Java solution, though. Absolutely. Consider me interested. Having that jcurses c library defeats the 'write-once and read-anywhere' goal... But anything is better than java.io.Reader. :) Cheers, -- Dylan Carlson [absinthe@pobox.com] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 20 7:43:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208DF37B403 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 07:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 17L39m-000NCZ-00; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 15:43:30 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g5KEhTD97215; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 15:43:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 15:43:29 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Andrew Gerweck Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RMI problem, cont. Message-ID: <20020620154329.B97189@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20020619010355.A82925@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3D0FD460.2010301@presedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3D0FD460.2010301@presedia.com>; from andrew.gerweck@presedia.com on Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 05:46:24PM -0700 X-Scanner: exiscan *17L39m-000NCZ-00*OcRwCIZCBwM* (Manchester Computing, University of Manchester) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | Are you use the 7.x linux base system? I had RMI troubles once that | disappeared when I downgraded (or is it upgraded?) to linux_base6. There's no way that would affect a native jdk, is there? jm -- My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 20 7:46:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E7B37B404 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 07:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 17L3CM-00049D-00; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 15:46:10 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g5KEk1W97261; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 15:46:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 15:46:01 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: "Lapinski, Michael (Research)" Cc: "'Robert F. Ross'" , shudo@computer.org, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Inconsistent RMI call problem Message-ID: <20020620154601.C97189@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from lapinski@crd.ge.com on Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 10:27:22AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | I have a jar file that runs a very lightweight webserver to | serve up the stubs if you are interested. Thanks, Michael. Is there any trick to getting it running? It seems to start okay, but a check of http://localhost:8080 returns an error, as does the same URL with (an existing) index.html. jm -- My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 20 7:57:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ns.klaasmeyer.com (ns.klaasmeyer.com [216.61.218.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4B737B405 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 07:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by KCNT1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:00:45 -0500 Message-ID: From: Corey Klaasmeyer To: "'freebsd-java@freebsd.org'" Subject: FreeBSD 4.6, JDK 1.4.0, Blackdown JDK 1.3.1, running Tomcat 4.0. 3 -- HotSpot Virtual Machine Error : 11, IBM locks-up Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:00:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm receiving an "Unexpected Signal : 11" when starting Tomcat 4.0.3 with linux-jdk14, linux-blackdown-jdk1.3.1. These errors are listed below. I don't know if this is related, but when I use linux-ibm-jdk1.3.1, the process uses 99% of the CPU and never serves any pages. I'm in the process of installing the jdk13 BSD port to see if I have any more luck with it. Apparently, I'm not the only one: http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4622693.html. Suggestions are welcome. I will be happy to provide more diagnostics. linux-jdk14 ------------- Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x2A77FB0B Function=[Unknown.] Library=(N/A) NOTE: We are unable to locate the function name symbol for the error just occurred. Please refer to release documentation for possible reason and solutions. Current Java thread: Dynamic libraries: Can not get information for pid = 1206 Local Time = Thu Jun 20 08:44:26 2002 Elapsed Time = 0 # # HotSpot Virtual Machine Error : 11 # Error ID : 4F530E43505002D3 # Please report this error at # http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi # # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.4.0-b92 mixed mode) # linux-blackdown-jdk1.3.1 ------------------------------- Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x806524b Function name=(N/A) Library=(N/A) NOTE: We are unable to locate the function name symbol for the error just occurred. Please refer to release documentation for possible reason and solutions. Current Java thread: Dynamic libraries: Can not get information for pid = 1247 Local Time = Thu Jun 20 09:01:59 2002 Elapsed Time = 1 # # HotSpot Virtual Machine Error : 11 # Error ID : 4F530E43505002C4 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 20 8: 0:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ext-nj2gw-1.online-age.net (ext-nj2gw-1.online-age.net [216.35.73.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461B837B41A for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 07:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from int-nj2gw-4.online-age.net (int-nj2gw-4.online-age.net [3.159.236.68]) by ext-nj2gw-1.online-age.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1/990426-RLH) with ESMTP id KAA08844; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:57:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crdns.crd.ge.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by int-nj2gw-4.online-age.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1/990426-RLH) with ESMTP id KAA20587; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exc01crdge.crd.ge.com (exc01crdge.crd.ge.com [3.1.116.47]) by crdns.crd.ge.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5KEvaQ05682; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exc01crdge.crd.ge.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:57:35 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Lapinski, Michael (Research)" To: "'j mckitrick'" Cc: "'Robert F. Ross'" , shudo@computer.org, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Inconsistent RMI call problem Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:57:33 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org terminal #1 [10:52am] lapinski@migraine:/projects/fiper/jfiper/jini/jini1_2/lib > java -jar tools.jar -port 6060 -dir /home/lapinski/www -verbose index.html requested from migraine:49783 -- snip -- terminal #2 [10:53am] lapinski@migraine:~/www > cat index.html hi I really do work. [10:53am] lapinski@migraine:~/www > telnet migraine.crd.ge.com 6060 Trying 3.1.112.3... Connected to migraine.crd.ge.com. Escape character is '^]'. GET /index.html HTTP/1.1 HTTP/1.0 200 OK Content-Length: 22 Content-Type: application/java hi I really do work. Connection closed by foreign host. [10:53am] lapinski@migraine:~/www > Be sure that the dir you specify as root is above the packages of your stubs. Ie. if the stub is for a class in the package my.neat.app and the stub sits in /home/me/my/neat/app/*_Stub.class You need to run with -dir /home/me because the java will automatically look for the stubs appending the package path to the / of your codebase. -mtl -------------------------------------------------- Michael Lapinski Computer Scientist GE Corporate Research & Development "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." - IBM Chairman Thomas Watson, 1943 ->-----Original Message----- ->From: j mckitrick [mailto:jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org] ->Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:46 AM ->To: Lapinski, Michael (Research) ->Cc: 'Robert F. Ross'; shudo@computer.org; freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG ->Subject: Re: Inconsistent RMI call problem -> -> ->| I have a jar file that runs a very lightweight webserver to ->| serve up the stubs if you are interested. -> ->Thanks, Michael. Is there any trick to getting it running? ->It seems to ->start okay, but a check of http://localhost:8080 returns an error, as ->does the same URL with (an existing) index.html. -> ->jm ->-- ->My other computer is your windows box. -> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 20 9:35:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.presedia.com (ns1.presedia.com [63.209.7.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBC037B409 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 09:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from presedia.com (adsl-64-170-152-109.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.170.152.109]) by ns1.presedia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5KGYLe96518; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 09:34:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew.gerweck@presedia.com) Message-ID: <3D12040C.5030305@presedia.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 09:34:20 -0700 From: Andrew Gerweck User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: j mckitrick Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RMI problem, cont. References: <20020619010355.A82925@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3D0FD460.2010301@presedia.com> <20020620154329.B97189@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I can't imagine it would. I was using the linux JDK. --Andy j mckitrick wrote: > | Are you use the 7.x linux base system? I had RMI troubles once that > | disappeared when I downgraded (or is it upgraded?) to linux_base6. > > There's no way that would affect a native jdk, is there? > > > jm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 20 13: 6: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C8D37B621 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 13:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ntlworld.com ([213.104.146.54]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020620200223.TOUL19225.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@ntlworld.com>; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:02:23 +0100 Message-ID: <3D123444.2070201@ntlworld.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:00:04 +0100 From: Antony T Curtis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020611 X-Accept-Language: en-gb, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: absinthe@pobox.com Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: stdin/console text input handling References: <3D11C367.9020908@ntlworld.com> <200206200832.23605.absinthe@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dylan Carlson wrote: > On Thursday 20 June 2002 07:58am, Antony T Curtis wrote: > >>I have a curses-inspired library which I can write console programs with. >> >>It is incomplete... But it could be just what you need. >> >>It's written in 100% java... > > I would _definitely_ prefer a 100% Java solution, though. Absolutely. > Consider me interested. Having that jcurses c library defeats the > 'write-once and read-anywhere' goal... > > But anything is better than java.io.Reader. :) > > Cheers, I'll have to clean up... refactor and unemcumber the code... (basically rewrite it a bit) and then it can be set loose upon the world ;) Currently, it is 'geared' more for the Unix environment because it expects to find /etc/termcap -- Antony T Curtis BSc Unix Analyst Programmer http://homepage.ntlworld.com/antony.t.curtis/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 20 18:20:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.cicese.mx (hermes.cicese.mx [158.97.1.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76A237B40C for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 18:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from matrix.cicese.mx (matrix.cicese.mx [158.97.23.247]) by hermes.cicese.mx (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id g5L1KS325473 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 18:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicese.mx (pc-erodrig.cicese.mx [158.97.22.220]) by matrix.cicese.mx (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA06291 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 18:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3D127F3B.9030808@cicese.mx> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 18:19:55 -0700 From: Daniel =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Valencia =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E1nchez?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020314 Netscape6/6.2.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: I cannot run SunONE (Forte) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there... has anyone run SunONE (forte for java) under freebie?? I've tried with 4.5, 5.0 and now with 4.6 and still there's nothing new under the sun I downloaded the binary from the site, and as i couldn't run it, I uncompressed it using unzip. the instalation ran smoothly, but at the moment of running "runide.sh", after taking a lot of time reading crap from the hard drive, when "opening the main window", it sends this message to the terminal and then terminates: Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x2A0377B7 Function=[Unknown.] Library=(N/A) NOTE: We are unable to locate the function name symbol for the error just occurred. Please refer to release documentation for possible reason and solutions. Current Java thread: Dynamic libraries: Can not get information for pid = 10418 Local Time = Thu Jun 20 18:17:50 2002 Elapsed Time = 98 # # HotSpot Virtual Machine Error : 11 # Error ID : 4F530E43505002D3 # Please report this error at # http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi # # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.4.0-b92 mixed mode) # # An error report file has been saved as hs_err_pid10418.log. # Please refer to the file for further information. # Anyone, please? - have fun Daniel Valencia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 20 19:53:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C099437B40E for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 17LEYP-0000jI-00 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 03:53:41 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g5L2rff02424 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 03:53:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 03:53:41 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Future of Java question.... Message-ID: <20020621035341.A2383@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I go back and forth between loving Java and hating it. I grew up doing 6510 ML programming, and more recently, loving the performance Unix affords. Java has amazing ways of making networking, I/O, event handling, and programming in general so much simpler. But this comes at a price: memory and CPU. My CPU usage in GKrellM is pegged for every compile and run. Memory is sucked up by the Java VM. All-in-all, I'm not sure how I feel about this. Maybe I'll decide to learn the Unix API better. But chances are, even if I do, I'll be back to Java because of its elegance and platform independence. The question is, are the benefits worth the price? In a similar vein, does .Net exact the same kind of performance hit? In your opinion, will Java remain a viable platform for the forseeable future? Or will it bloat itself into oblivion? jm -- Java on a laptop: the JIT hits the fan. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 20 20: 4:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu (daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu [129.64.3.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D948837B401 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (meshko@localhost) by daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28711; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:03:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:03:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Kruk To: j mckitrick Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Future of Java question.... In-Reply-To: <20020621035341.A2383@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > independence. The question is, are the benefits worth the price? In a > similar vein, does .Net exact the same kind of performance hit? In your > opinion, will Java remain a viable platform for the forseeable future? > Or will it bloat itself into oblivion? Yes, .NET seems to be as bloated as Java. I was able to compile jdk1.3.1 and run it (in production, thousands connections a day, about a hundred simulteneous connections) on my PII-300 but I wasn't able to compile or run Microsoft clr on the same box. Anyway Java has at least 5 more years in it, that's what pessimists are saying. When you need a program with complicated UI or some simple network service and you need it *now* I think Java is and will remain a perfect tool. Not to mention academia: students can create sophisticated projects in Java. In some other programming language you are lucky if you can teach them how to make linked lists by the end of senior year :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 20 20:17:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FDA837B42A for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 17LEuv-0001Kc-00; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:16:57 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g5L3Gvj02623; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:16:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:16:57 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Mikhail Kruk Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Future of Java question.... Message-ID: <20020621041657.A2565@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20020621035341.A2383@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from meshko@cs.brandeis.edu on Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 11:03:39PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | hundred simulteneous connections) on my PII-300 but I wasn't able to | compile or run Microsoft clr on the same box. Anyway Java has at least 5 | more years in it, that's what pessimists are saying. Interesting. Verizon here in the states claim they moved all their online apps to .Net. I wonder what kind they are? On the other point... if .Net is bloated, and if Java only has 5 years at the worst, what could be next? I don't hear much about the 'next generation' of computing languages. They need to get web services to work well (which they can do with Java OR .Net) and then worry about the Next Big Thing (tm). Then again, web services have the potential to be just that. Once they work out the details. I've read the JAXR tutorial a dozen times, and I still can't get my config.xml to compile correctly. We need a way to extract a TENTATIVE web service definition from an interface. Sure, you can edit it, but at least it's a working point to start from. | When you need a program with complicated UI or some simple network | service and you need it *now* I think Java is and will remain a perfect | tool. I wish I could use Java at work. I used .Net to whip up a test container the other day. It might be bloated, but my machine doesn't care. But I was still longing for Java. | Not to mention academia: students can create sophisticated projects in | Java. In some other programming language you are lucky if you can | teach them how to make linked lists by the end of senior year :) I did a networking project recently where we had our choice of languages for a client/server example. If we chose Java, we had to implement a lot more features for that very reason: it's so amazingly easy to network. jm -- My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 20 20:33: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F8A37B404 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5L3VPLo097219; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:31:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alan@agora.rdrop.com) Received: (from alan@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g5L3VPtD097218; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:31:24 -0700 From: Alan Batie To: j mckitrick Cc: Mikhail Kruk , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Future of Java question.... Message-ID: <20020620203124.E94323@agora.rdrop.com> Mail-Followup-To: j mckitrick , Mikhail Kruk , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020621035341.A2383@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20020621041657.A2565@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DqhR8hV3EnoxUkKN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020621041657.A2565@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --DqhR8hV3EnoxUkKN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 04:16:57AM +0100, j mckitrick wrote: > Interesting. Verizon here in the states claim they moved all their > online apps to .Net. I wonder what kind they are? Maybe that explains why their web site doesn't work very well. Personally, I don't think the bloat is inherent in the language; we need to be pushing for better implementations. --=20 Alan Batie ______ www.rdrop.com/users/alan Me alan@batie.org \ / www.qrd.org The Triangle PGPFP DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A \ / www.pgpi.com The Weird Numbers 27 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 \/ razor.sourceforge.net NO SPAM! A free society is a place where it's safe to be unpopular. -Adlai Stevenson, statesman (1900-1965) --DqhR8hV3EnoxUkKN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQCVAwUBPRKeDIv4wNua7QglAQH/GAP/Rpd9S0t6fayIq00whAvVJl/oJM24ul75 CJbzi7ZnUAkgDayc9Mw+FzzhTQQ8B+5BHXdtwwfcub94iCKml3+uWANvaVsZ5xCK sl06qb8z8M3JmoxqCiDQ5w1K9xDlyJI12p8Ea7bCf2H1jNSqkxVaed4yUZMqMF/r h0i5fWuwNQY= =sGUH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DqhR8hV3EnoxUkKN-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 20 20:36: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE3837B407 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 17LFDI-0001tB-00; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:35:56 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g5L3ZtE02724; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:35:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:35:55 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Mikhail Kruk , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Future of Java question.... Message-ID: <20020621043555.A2658@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20020621035341.A2383@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20020621041657.A2565@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20020620203124.E94323@agora.rdrop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20020620203124.E94323@agora.rdrop.com>; from alan@batie.org on Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 08:31:24PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 08:31:24PM -0700, Alan Batie wrote: | On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 04:16:57AM +0100, j mckitrick wrote: | > Interesting. Verizon here in the states claim they moved all their | > online apps to .Net. I wonder what kind they are? | | Maybe that explains why their web site doesn't work very well. | | Personally, I don't think the bloat is inherent in the language; we | need to be pushing for better implementations. But when you take network connections, and turn them into simple classes that only need to be instantiated, you are encapsulating a huge amount of socket/connection code. That equals bloat, correct? Maybe the language itself is efficient, but OOP is not. jm -- Java on a laptop: the JIT hits the fan. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 20 21:36:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06B837B404 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5L4Z4Lo006179; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:35:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alan@agora.rdrop.com) Received: (from alan@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g5L4Z3oq006178; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:35:03 -0700 From: Alan Batie To: j mckitrick Cc: Mikhail Kruk , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Future of Java question.... Message-ID: <20020620213503.H94323@agora.rdrop.com> Mail-Followup-To: j mckitrick , Mikhail Kruk , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020621035341.A2383@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20020621041657.A2565@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20020620203124.E94323@agora.rdrop.com> <20020621043555.A2658@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="poemUeGtc2GQvHuH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020621043555.A2658@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --poemUeGtc2GQvHuH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 04:35:55AM +0100, j mckitrick wrote: > But when you take network connections, and turn them into simple classes > that only need to be instantiated, you are encapsulating a huge amount > of socket/connection code. That equals bloat, correct? Maybe the > language itself is efficient, but OOP is not. I'm not a big fan of OOP overall, but that encapsulation is, or should be, just simplifying what you have to do anyway, so it should not equal bloat, unless it encourages you to use network connections inappropriately. --=20 Alan Batie ______ www.rdrop.com/users/alan Me alan@batie.org \ / www.qrd.org The Triangle PGPFP DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A \ / www.pgpi.com The Weird Numbers 27 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 \/ razor.sourceforge.net NO SPAM! A free society is a place where it's safe to be unpopular. -Adlai Stevenson, statesman (1900-1965) --poemUeGtc2GQvHuH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQCVAwUBPRKs9ov4wNua7QglAQHL0QP9FVZgk7aq1GXsJoKFzrB2iJG3pTLOL0rd QLA6Ni3rSQqS7sTn34wynSxDbiGikjH0jKk9o5fzF+iBF4rilBWzGDzSEx6dXP4M Ope0QJDPCDJ/KvdIczP2pVyKK5nTWTW7PEpYZGwjWM0s4zS5ByfZY77ERnwFANj1 NIzATN5yfek= =/1rR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --poemUeGtc2GQvHuH-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 20 23:15:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from d7058.upc-d.chello.nl (d7058.upc-d.chello.nl [213.46.7.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FBF37B400 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bowtie.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by d7058.upc-d.chello.nl (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g5L6FCt26415; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:15:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@bowtie.nl) Message-ID: <3D12C46F.7080304@bowtie.nl> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:15:11 +0200 From: Marc van Kempen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0rc1) Gecko/20020420 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Daniel_Jes=FAs_Valencia_S=E1nchez?= Cc: java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I cannot run SunONE (Forte) References: <3D127F3B.9030808@cicese.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Daniel Jesús Valencia Sánchez wrote: > Hi there... > > has anyone run SunONE (forte for java) under freebie?? I've tried with > 4.5, 5.0 and now with 4.6 and still there's nothing new under the sun > > I downloaded the binary from the site, and as i couldn't run it, I > uncompressed it using unzip. the instalation ran smoothly, but at the > moment of running "runide.sh", after taking a lot of time reading crap > from the hard drive, when "opening the main window", it sends this > message to the terminal and then terminates: > > Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x2A0377B7 > Function=[Unknown.] > Library=(N/A) > > NOTE: We are unable to locate the function name symbol for the error > just occurred. Please refer to release documentation for possible > reason and solutions. > > > Current Java thread: > > Dynamic libraries: > Can not get information for pid = 10418 > > Local Time = Thu Jun 20 18:17:50 2002 > Elapsed Time = 98 > # > # HotSpot Virtual Machine Error : 11 > # Error ID : 4F530E43505002D3 > # Please report this error at > # http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi > # > # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.4.0-b92 mixed mode) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You're propably running an included Linux java vm binary. Try editing the scripts and see if you can make it run our native jvm. Marc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Jun 21 2:20:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from web14402.mail.yahoo.com (web14402.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58C9337B40B for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 02:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20020621092055.89196.qmail@web14402.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.88.149.172] by web14402.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 02:20:55 PDT Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 02:20:55 -0700 (PDT) From: sonam singh Subject: Hotspot JVM Crashes with Tomcat To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi I am using tomcat3x with IBMJdk1.3 in FreeBSD4.5 which is running great. Now i want to move to tomcat4x with SunJdk1.3 or IBMjdk1.3 But SunJdk1.3 with hotspot JVM crashes with tomcat4x and IBMJdk1.3 hangs. Can anyone guide me why Hotspot JVM Crashes and IBMJdk hangs .when i run the Sunjdk1.3 with -classic option ,tomcat4x runs.. regards Sonam __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Jun 21 2:57:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACFF37B4DB for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 02:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 17LLAX-000DZo-00; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:57:29 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g5L9vSJ04584; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:57:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:57:27 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Mikhail Kruk , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Future of Java question.... Message-ID: <20020621105727.A4515@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20020621035341.A2383@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20020621041657.A2565@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20020620203124.E94323@agora.rdrop.com> <20020621043555.A2658@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20020620213503.H94323@agora.rdrop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20020620213503.H94323@agora.rdrop.com>; from alan@batie.org on Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 09:35:03PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 09:35:03PM -0700, Alan Batie wrote: | I'm not a big fan of OOP overall, but that encapsulation is, or should be, | just simplifying what you have to do anyway, so it should not equal bloat, | unless it encourages you to use network connections inappropriately. The way I understand it, OOP was the next step past modular programming to handle increasing complexity. And I believe the step after that is component based software. I'll readily admit that the project I am working on now would have been vastly more complicated without C++ vectors, lists, and iterators. But these abstractions add bloat, correct? And Java's use of nested objects for I/O, while amazingly elegant, must add overhead, correct? Yet it solves a problem in a straightforward way. I used to fight OOP myself, but my current project at work is so large and complex, I am convinced it would have been nearly impossible for a small team to code in C or some other procedural language. As a matter of fact, the legacy product we are replacing was a nightmare of internal API's, huge header files of prototypes, and data structures that were shared across the application, and NOT with encapsulation. What a mess. ;-) jm -- Java on a laptop: the JIT hits the fan. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Jun 21 3:15:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from crewsoft.com (papua.crewsoft.com [198.232.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC5437B40E for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 03:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (account cberger@wireless-networks.com HELO wireless-networks.com) by crewsoft.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.7) with ESMTP id 5366541; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 03:15:40 -0700 Message-ID: <3D12FDBC.5090007@wireless-networks.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:19:40 +0200 From: Cedric Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sonam singh Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hotspot JVM Crashes with Tomcat References: <20020621092055.89196.qmail@web14402.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Because AFAIK, Hotspot has *never* been stable under Linux emulation. Probably because Hotspot is (ans has to be) tightly coupled with the Linux kernel, and that FreeBSB does not (cannot?) emulate the Linux kernel closely enough. Cedric sonam singh wrote: >hi >I am using tomcat3x with IBMJdk1.3 in FreeBSD4.5 >which is running great. Now i want to move to >tomcat4x with SunJdk1.3 or IBMjdk1.3 But SunJdk1.3 >with hotspot JVM crashes with tomcat4x and IBMJdk1.3 >hangs. Can anyone guide me why Hotspot JVM Crashes and >IBMJdk hangs .when i run the Sunjdk1.3 with -classic >option ,tomcat4x runs.. > >regards >Sonam > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Jun 21 4:55:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from sunic.sunet.se (sunic.sunet.se [192.36.125.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DCD37B409 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irfu.se (sol.irfu.se [130.238.30.6]) by sunic.sunet.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA08505; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:55:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from jet.irfu.se by irfu.se (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA19997; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:54:41 +0200 Received: from localhost (yuri@localhost) by jet.irfu.se (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5LBtPx12949; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:55:25 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: jet.irfu.se: yuri owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:55:24 +0200 (MEST) From: yuri khotyaintsev X-Sender: yuri@jet To: Marc van Kempen Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Daniel_Jes=FAs_Valencia_S=E1nchez?= , java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I cannot run SunONE (Forte) In-Reply-To: <3D12C46F.7080304@bowtie.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Marc van Kempen wrote: > Daniel Jes=FAs Valencia S=E1nchez wrote: > > # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.4.0-b92 mixed mode) > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > You're propably running an included Linux java vm binary. Try editing=20 > the scripts and see if you can make it run our native jvm. Does this mean you have Forte stable under native jdk 1.3.1 ? Our experience is that only linux jdk1.3.1 with classic VM runs more or less stable, but slow. Under other JVMs Forte survives no longer then 5 minutes... >=20 > Marc. >=20 Yuri >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message >=20 Yuri Khotyaintsev=20 Swedish Institute of Space Physics, = =20 Uppsala Division, Box 537, S-75121 Uppsala http://cluster.irfu.se/yuri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Jun 21 5:10:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23E037B401 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 05:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 17LNF9-000LVU-00 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:10:23 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g5LCANM05445 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:10:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:10:03 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Marc van Kempen Subject: Re: Future of Java question.... Message-ID: <20020621131003.A5413@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20020621035341.A2383@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20020621041657.A2565@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20020620203124.E94323@agora.rdrop.com> <20020621043555.A2658@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu <20020621105727.A4515@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3D130626.70609@bowtie.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3D130626.70609@bowtie.nl>; from marc@bowtie.nl on Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 12:55:34PM +0200 X-Scanner: exiscan *17LNF9-000LVU-00*HJvISv9iWzs* (Manchester Computing, University of Manchester) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | As an interesting datapoint, the Orion application server (100% java), seems to | outperform apache when serving static content. Some of that may be attributed | to the java threading system versus forking, but it seems that the networking | layer is pretty efficient too. See, that I can understand. Java networking is clearly optimized. Maybe when Hotspot works under FreeBSD I'll see an even better improvement. I guess the runtime performance isn't too bad, it's the startup that seems to take so much CPU. Memory usage is high, but not really a problem. jm -- My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Jun 21 6:55:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ns.gddsn.org.cn (ns.gddsn.org.cn [210.21.6.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5576A37B405 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 06:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gddsn.org.cn (gw [210.21.6.34]) by ns.gddsn.org.cn (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D6258C; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:55:42 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <3D13305D.6010003@mail.gddsn.org.cn> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:55:41 +0800 From: Huang wen hui User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020614 X-Accept-Language: zh-cn, zh-tw, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yuri khotyaintsev Cc: Marc van Kempen , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Daniel_Jes=FAs_V?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?alencia_S=E1nchez?= , java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I cannot run SunONE (Forte) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org yuri khotyaintsev wrote: >Does this mean you have Forte stable under native jdk 1.3.1 ? >Our experience is that only linux jdk1.3.1 with classic VM runs more or >less stable, but slow. Under other JVMs Forte survives no longer then 5 >minutes... I use jdk1.3.1-p6 + forte4. It works fine. but too slow. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Jun 21 8: 0:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from post.softalia.com (post.softalia.com [65.161.202.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0A537B40C for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tigger.softalia.com ([65.161.202.175] ident=root) by post.softalia.com with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17LPtz-0006Jy-00; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 11:00:43 -0400 Received: from roo.softalia.com (IDENT:1246-ident-is-a-completely-pointless-protocol-that-offers-no-security-or-traceability-at-all-so-take-this-and-log-it!@roo.softalia.com [10.10.10.4]) by tigger.softalia.com (8.11.4/3.7W-isfs) with ESMTP id g5LF0fI20853; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 11:00:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 11:00:28 -0400 Message-ID: From: kkonaka@mac.com To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Future of Java question.... In-Reply-To: <20020621131003.A5413@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20020621035341.A2383@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20020621041657.A2565@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20020620203124.E94323@agora.rdrop.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 Emacs/20.7 (sparc--netbsdelf) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, I'm kindof interested to hear about what kind of experience people have had tring to run (or have run) J2ME/CDC on *BSD platforms -- eg., any pitfalls? http://www.linuxdevices.com/directory/Software/Java_virtual_machines/ http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT7873839273.html http://swjscmail1.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0206&L=j2me-cdc-interest&D=1&O=D&P=1167 regards, kenji To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Jun 21 15: 3:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from gnuppy.monkey.org (wsip68-15-8-100.sd.sd.cox.net [68.15.8.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A6037B403 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from billh by gnuppy.monkey.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17LWUr-0000n8-00; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:03:13 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:03:13 -0700 To: Cedric Berger Cc: sonam singh , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG, Bill Huey Subject: Re: Hotspot JVM Crashes with Tomcat Message-ID: <20020621220313.GA3020@gnuppy.monkey.org> References: <20020621092055.89196.qmail@web14402.mail.yahoo.com> <3D12FDBC.5090007@wireless-networks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3D12FDBC.5090007@wireless-networks.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i From: Bill Huey Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 12:19:40PM +0200, Cedric Berger wrote: > Because AFAIK, Hotspot has *never* been stable under Linux emulation. > Probably because Hotspot is (ans has to be) tightly coupled with the > Linux kernel, and that FreeBSB does not (cannot?) emulate the Linux > kernel closely enough. That's technically a bug or some kind of incompleteness in the emulation. BTW, another FreeBSD JVM developer got an alpha quality native HotSpot that's got the native port changes in our CVS repository now. Hopefully, a patch set with those changes will be pushed out to the general public soon. I've moved to -current for all of my development now since their libc_r system has bug fixes that I don't want to back port to -stable. bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Sat Jun 22 2:24: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from nemesis.systems.pipex.net (nemesis.systems.pipex.net [62.190.223.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB6A37B400 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2002 02:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andromeda (unknown [81.86.157.246]) by nemesis.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E15F1600028D for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2002 10:23:57 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Darren Hobbs Reply-To: darrenh@dsl.pipex.com To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Future of Java question.... Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 10:23:55 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <20020621035341.A2383@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <20020621035341.A2383@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200206221023.55938.darrenh@dsl.pipex.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a question I frequently consider. Pretty much all my working life is spent doing Java development. It is superbly suited for business systems. The abstractions make it very easy to write systems that embody complex business logic. It also makes hard things (like sockets) almost trivially simple to work with. However there can be no substitute for understanding. The ability to manipulate costly functions (like network or DB IO) easily also means its very easy to write shockingly inefficient code to do so. To a naive developer, establishing a new database connection, using it, then closing it again might seem the ideal approach. Doing it inside a loop in a multithreaded application might mean you are trying to open/close hundreds of connections a second. Your DBA won't find it funny. The issue of bloat sort of depends what you're used to. Yes the JDK is large, but once you have it, you have a huge range of ready-made libraries to use, and the Java classloader mechanism means that only the ones you are using will be loaded into memory. With regard to performance, Java started off as fully interpreted, very slow and clunky. A few months ago I wrote a simple Java application that searched for prime numbers in the dumbest way, and a colleague did the same in C. The Java version ran 10% faster than the C equivalent. Hotspot optimisation (even of really naive code) comes for free with Java, in C you have to optimise by hand. With regard to memory usage, the standard JVM isn't the slimmest thing out there, but again, although automatic garbage collection is great, it can't stop you writing poor code, and if you hold unneccessary object references they eat memory. For example, I was working on some java code to parse several very large XML data files and write out a consolidated dump file. The initial implementation read every data element into a new String object, and the program ate up over 900 meg of ram while it was working. Once it was working ok, I took a closer look at the data and realised a lot of it was repeated, so instead of creating a new String, I checked each one against a hashmap and used the one in the map (or added it if it was new). This had the effect of greatly reducing the number of objects in memory, and the footprint went down to about 250 Meg, of which most was in-memory lookup tables. The application also did in 12 minutes what used to take several hours with a combination of C, perl and shell scripts, at the expense of burning more memory while it was running. So while I know that Java has a finite lifespan, I haven't yet seen the obvious successor. -Darren On Friday 21 June 2002 03:53, j mckitrick wrote: > Hi all, > > I go back and forth between loving Java and hating it. I grew up doing > 6510 ML programming, and more recently, loving the performance Unix > affords. > > Java has amazing ways of making networking, I/O, event handling, and > programming in general so much simpler. But this comes at a price: > memory and CPU. My CPU usage in GKrellM is pegged for every compile and > run. Memory is sucked up by the Java VM. All-in-all, I'm not > sure how I feel about this. > > Maybe I'll decide to learn the Unix API better. But chances are, even > if I do, I'll be back to Java because of its elegance and platform > independence. The question is, are the benefits worth the price? In a > similar vein, does .Net exact the same kind of performance hit? In your > opinion, will Java remain a viable platform for the forseeable future? > Or will it bloat itself into oblivion? > > jm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message