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Characteristics:	System programmer with intensive knowledge of kernel and hardware. Steep learning curve, ability to handle several independent problems concurrently, very fast working style, broad knowledge of the computer industry and computer science, in particular system architecture. Prominent member of the BSD community.
Desired position:	A varied position in a predominantly technical area with responsibility for complete solutions. On the technical side I prefer to work with open systems such as BSD UNIX. The choice of hardware is less important.

Technical Knowledge

Hardware:

A wide range of past and present computer architectures, including Control Data, DEC, Dietz, EAI, Honeywell, IBM, Intel, Motorola and Tandem.

Current experience centers around UNIX systems based on Intel, Sun, SGI, Siemens-Nixdorf, and Tandem hardware.

Programming languages:

Many assemblers, C, C++, Cobol, Fortran, LISP, Pascal, SQL, TAL (Tandem's System Programming Language), UNIX Shell.

Operating systems:

Prior experience with UNIVAC OS/1100, Omega, Control Data Scope, IBM MVS, Tandem Guardian, OS/2, MS-DOS.

Current with UNIX System V and BSD, including IRIX 5.3, SCO, SINIX, Solaris 1 and 2, Tandem NonStop UX, UnixWare, and XENIX.

Datacomms:

X.25, TCP/IP, NFS, ISDN, X.

Natural languages:

English (native language), German, French, Malay.

Education

1954-1966

Schooling in Malaya, Australia, England

1967-1972

Universities of Hamburg, Germany (Chemistry) and Exeter, England (Chemical Engineering). During the latter course I worked extensively with computers (PDP-8, PDP-12, Control Data 3200, EAI 640/3200 hybrid system controlling a sugar pan during a practical at the CSIRO in Clayton, Australia).

January 1973- April 1973

Programming and System Analysis courses at Control Data Institut, Frankfurt.

Professional experience

May 1973- September 1974

Systems advisor at Sperry Univac, Frankfurt. Wrote an interpretative database compiler for the UNIKABS accounting system for the German health insurance authorities.

October 1974- March 1975

Programmer/Analyst at SPL GmbH, Frankfurt. Wrote a data acquisition system for satellite image data with the German Government organisation for space research (DFVLR) in Oberpfaffenhofen near M�nchen (Munich).

April 1974-May 1975

System Programmer with IBAT-AOP, Essen. Wrote ROM-based software for an electronically controlled saw to cut parts for non-standard sized windows. Hardware: Intel 8008. Software: Assembler. Wrote a program system for a company in the packaging industry, including operating system support.

May 1975-May 1982

System Programmer with Karstadt AG, Essen. System programming and maintenance of the Omega operating system of Karstadt's UNIVAC 494 machines. Systems Programming for the IBM-370/168. Wrote device drivers for the IBM 3800 OCR document reader. Wrote programs for inter-machine tape spooling.

April 1977-May 1982

Systems Programming for the Tandem/16 System. Set standards for programming. Wrote a spooler. Wrote an application library.

August 1979- February 1980

Wrote a control program for a computerized filling station, based on the Zilog Z-80.

June 1980- March 1984

Wrote, maintained and marketed a symbolic debugger for the Zilog Z-80 running under CP/M. At the time it was the most advanced debugger available for this processor.

May 1982- March 1992

Employee of Tandem Computers Inc. in Frankfurt, Germany.

May 1982- December 1986

``Advisory Support Specialist'' (highest rank of Tandem support personnel worldwide). Responsible for Europe-wide second-line support, including bug fixes, of the Guardian Operating System, disk subsystems and database software and of all products without a designated support specialist. Responsible for data recovery after hardware problems, coordination of emergency situations.

January 1987- May 1990

European technical support manager for Operating System and Hardware with 9 direct reports in England and Germany.

June 1990- March 1992

Tandem internal consultant for UNIX (Integrity S2). Responsible for questions of system integration, software ports, device drivers, adaptation of foreign hardware, all related to the extended VME bus of the S2, as well as choice of products and software houses. Projects: integration of MAP 3.0, SS7 (telco protocol), ISDN S0 interface, SNA software, Token ring boards, ISO CMIP and CMISE protocols, ports of C and C++ compiler and library.

August 1990-March 1993

Wrote an object oriented data retrieval and display package for DOS and UNIX. Language: C++.

March 1992-January 1993

Wrote a keyboard driver, low-level protected mode kernel debugger, ported software for BSDI's BSD/386 Operating system.

October 1992-August 1994

German Federal Railways: Modification and extension of a mask oriented, data base controlled screen and printer driver for the project Relationsloko 1993.

March 1993-present

Production of CD-ROM with pre-ported free software for UNIX System V.4.2 on Intel platforms.

August 1994-October 1994

Adaptation of the GNU C library to SCO UNIX.

April-June 1995

Installation and debugging of a national Internet node in Singapore.

July-November 1995

Installation of a network based on BSD/OS for a furniture company in M�nchen (Munich), Germany.

January-April 1996

SINIX-N kernel debugging and development with Siemens-Nixdorf, Paderborn, Germany (UNIX System V on MIPS R4400).

April-July 1996

Co-development and testing of ISDN driver package for FreeBSD.

August 1996

Hyundai Electronics Industries Co., Ltd., Ichon, Korea: Performance analysis of cellular telephone Home Location Registry system, resulting in double the transaction rate (from 600 to 1200 tps), 20% more than expected.

September 1996-March 1997

Participation in design of instruction set for a new generation digital signal processor, with particular regard to the suitability for use with the C programming language.

January 1997

Hyundai Electronics Industries Co., Ltd., I'chon, Korea: Port of a device driver for Tandem Integrity 1475 under NonStop UX B30 to Integrity S4000 running NonStop UX C10. The work was done at Tandem's integration facility in Austin, Texas, and was completed in 85% of the estimated time.

February-May 1997

Qinghua (Tsinghua) University, Beijing, China: series of UNIX classes with particular emphasis on telecommunications applications.

June-July 1997

URMET Sud , Rome, Italy: Debugging an intelligent network solution for Telecom Italia

August 1997

Nippon Telegraph and Telephone Corporation, Tokyo, Japan. Kernel and Oracle performance tuning for the project DoCoMo

October 1997-present

Cybernet Systems Corporation Inc. Wrote the Vinum volume manager, a volume manager with software RAID solution for the FreeBSD operating system, similar to the VERITAS Volume Manager.

November 1997

EDS, Deutz, Germany. C++ compiler consulting.

December 1997

Compaq Computers, Hong Kong: UNIX classes on telecommunications applications.

April 1998

Nippon Telegraph and Telephone Corporation, Tokyo, Japan. Project migration planning for the project DoCoMo

April 1998

Compaq Computers, Singapore: UNIX classes on telecommunications applications.

June 1998

Nippon Telegraph and Telephone Corporation, Austin, Texas. Project migration benchmarks for the project DoCoMo

August 1998

Hyundai Electronics Industries Co., Ltd., I'chon, Korea: troubleshooting of HLR application.

September–November 1998

Design of C compiler for next-generation DSP

March 2000-February 2001

Open Source Researcher with Linuxcare Inc.

July-November 2000

Involved in FreeBSD SMPng project for rewriting the SMP support for FreeBSD.

May 2002-present

Kernel hacker in IBM's Linux Technology Center, Ozlabs. Wrote clone of the AIX Journalled File System, the predecessor of the JFS ported by the JFS for Linux project.

Publications and Papers

June 1992

iX magazine (Germany): Test of BSD/386.

August 1992

iX magazine: Article about installing and tuning X11 servers.

February 1993

iX magazine: Test of Motorola's Altair wireless Ethernet.

February 1993

iX magazine: Tests of Consensys SVR4.2 and Novell UnixWare.

February 1993

iX magazine: Article about porting software.

February, March 1993

iX magazine: Articles about choice of PC hardware for running UNIX.

April 1993

unixOPEN magazine: Article about debugging techniques.

August 1993

iX magazine: Review of PC based display cards.

August 1993-February 1995

Book Porting UNIX Software, published by O'Reilly and Associates

October 1995-March 1996

Book ``Installing and Running FreeBSD'', published by Walnut Creek CDROM.

April-June 1996

Book ``The complete FreeBSD'', also published by Walnut Creek CDROM.

September-December 1997

Book ``The complete FreeBSD'', second edition.

September 1998

Paper The Vinum Volume Manager presented at the AUUG Winter Conference in Sydney.

October 1998

Article Sign language published in D�mon News.

December 1998

Article Who's in control? published in D�mon News.

January 1999

Article The return of BSD published in SunWorld.

February 1999

Article How the world sees you published in D�mon News.

March-May 1999

Book The complete FreeBSD, third edition.

April 1999

Article Microsoft beats BSD! published in D�mon News.

June 1999

Article UNIX and BSD published in D�mon News.

June 1999

Paper The Vinum Volume Manager presented at the USENIX annual conference in Monterey CA.

July 1999

Workshop ``Installing FreeBSD'' presented at the AUUG NT Chapter conference in Darwin NT.

July 1999

Book ``The Complete FreeBSD'', third edition.

August 1999

Article BSD or Linux? published in D�mon News.

October 1999

Article A question of perspective published in D�mon News.

October 1999

Demonstration ``The Vinum Volume Manager'' at the FreeBSDCon in Berkeley, CA..

December 1999

Article The path ahead published in D�mon News.

February 2000

Article Commercial BSD support published in D�mon News.

April 2000

Article For the times, they are a'changing published in D�mon News.

June 2000

Article Seen it all before? published in D�mon News.

June 2000

Paper ``Benchmarking mass storage subsystems'' at the AUUG2K conference in Canberra, Australia.

August 2000

Article The year of BSD published in D�mon News.

October 2000

Paper ``Improving the FreeBSD SMP implementation'' at the BSDCon conference in Monterey, CA.

October 2000

Article Anarchies, monarchies and dictatorships published in D�mon News.

November 2000

Tutorial ``Installing FreeBSD'' at the Linuxworld expo in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

December 2000

Article Leading the way published in D�mon News.

February 2001

Article Whither BSD? published in D�mon News.

March 2001

Tutorial ``Installing FreeBSD'' at the Linuxworld expo in Singapore.

April 2001

Article And where does the money come from? published in D�mon News.

June 2001

Article Getting our acts together published in D�mon News.

June 2001

Paper ``Improving the FreeBSD SMP implementation'' at the USENIX conference in Boston, MA.

August 2001

Article BSD in the news published in D�mon News.

September 2001

Paper ``FreeBSD SMPng: a case study in open source development'' at the AUUG 2001 conference in Sydney, Australia.

October 2001

Article Life after the slump published in D�mon News.

November 2001

Tutorial ``Debugging Kernel Problems'' at the BSDCon Europe in Brighton, UK.

December 2001

Article Meanwhile, in Europe published in D�mon News.

February 2002

Article Two kinds of advocacy published in D�mon News.

February 2002

Tutorial ``Debugging Kernel Problems'' at the BSDCon in San Francisco, CA.

April 2002

Article BSD Project management published in D�mon News.

June 2002

Article Are we having fun yet? published in D�mon News.

I am currently working on a number of further books, including debugging and further FreeBSD books. If you have any ideas, or if you are interested in reviewing one of these books, please send me mail.

Other activities

Australian UNIX User's Group

FreeBSD Core Team

Free Software Celebrities

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; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 03:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prometheus.home.laserfence.net (prometheus.laserfence.net [196.44.73.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFC243E6E for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 03:21:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@highveldcs.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (helo=phoenix.home.laserfence.net) by prometheus.home.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 17jzwp-0002Ty-00; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:21:15 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:21:10 +0200 (SAST) From: Willie Viljoen X-X-Sender: will@phoenix.home.laserfence.net To: richard childers Cc: Kirk Vorsatz , Subject: Re: Job for Sr Linux Sys Admin with NT, Oracle and Masters Degree In-Reply-To: <3D6BFC07.DF10F068@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <20020828121737.X417-100000@phoenix.home.laserfence.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Richard, At the risk of jumping to conclusions, I think there's probably some confusion here, a masters degree is probably not what they are looking for at all. It's a common misconception that people have about the MCSE, a diploma issued by Microsoft, stating that the holder is qualified to operate a Windows NT-based network. Because of a lack of non-technical information about the diploma, many people become confused, and because of the "M" in the title, the acronym has been contstrued to mean many interesting (incorrect) things, including "Masters in Computer Systems Engineering", ofcourse, it really means "Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer". I'm thinking there may have been some miscommunication somewhere along the lines where an MCSE turned into a Masters :) An MCSE is probably the likely thing the company would want, seeing as they are using NT machines. Somebody with a masters shouldn't be working as a sysadmin, that would just be wrong :) Will On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, richard childers wrote: > Some people might suggest that Linux has hardly been around long enough > to someone to *become* a so-called 'senior Linux administrator'. > > What constitutes 'seniority' in Linux? > > And what does the master's degree have to be in? > > Inquiring minds want to know. (-: > > > Yours for reasonable requirements, > > > -- richard > > > Kirk Vorsatz wrote: > > > I have a fantastic fulltime opportunity for a Linux system admin at a > > 15 year old company where you would be the sol.e IT person responsible > > for all Desktop (NT and Exchange) as well as overseeing Oracle > > servers....... Please email me if interested.... Kirk C. Vorsatz > > Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter > > Recruiter of the Year 2000 > > Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 > > Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 > > Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division > > KCV@hallkinion.com > > 1-888-682-6400 ext 218 > > 650-345-5600 ext 218 > > 650-245-7043 cell " Work With The Best ! " > > -- > > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator > "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759 > > -- Willie Viljoen Highveld Computing Solutions 214 Paul Kruger Avenue Universitas Bloemfontein 9321 South Africa +27 51 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36 +27 82 404 03 27 will@highveldcs.com To find out how we can help you with inventive solutions, visit http://www.highveldcs.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-jobs Wed Aug 28 7:19:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B79837B400 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 07:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8C243E72 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 07:19:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fscked@pacbell.net) Received: from pacbell.net ([66.124.235.5]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H1K0013U53W9I@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 07:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 07:22:11 -0700 From: richard childers Subject: Re: Job for Sr Linux Sys Admin with NT, Oracle and Masters Degree To: Willie Viljoen Cc: Kirk Vorsatz , freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Message-id: <3D6CDC93.B522D912@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (WinNT; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: <20020828121737.X417-100000@phoenix.home.laserfence.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My point exactly. Points to Willie for thinking clearly. -- richard Willie Viljoen wrote: > Richard, > > At the risk of jumping to conclusions, I think there's probably some > confusion here, a masters degree is probably not what they are looking for > at all. > > It's a common misconception that people have about the MCSE, a diploma > issued by Microsoft, stating that the holder is qualified to operate a > Windows NT-based network. Because of a lack of non-technical information > about the diploma, many people become confused, and because of the "M" in > the title, the acronym has been contstrued to mean many interesting > (incorrect) things, including "Masters in Computer Systems Engineering", > ofcourse, it really means "Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer". > > I'm thinking there may have been some miscommunication somewhere along the > lines where an MCSE turned into a Masters :) > > An MCSE is probably the likely thing the company would want, seeing as > they are using NT machines. > > Somebody with a masters shouldn't be working as a sysadmin, that would > just be wrong :) > > Will > > On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, richard childers wrote: > > > Some people might suggest that Linux has hardly been around long enough > > to someone to *become* a so-called 'senior Linux administrator'. > > > > What constitutes 'seniority' in Linux? > > > > And what does the master's degree have to be in? > > > > Inquiring minds want to know. (-: > > > > > > Yours for reasonable requirements, > > > > > > -- richard > > > > > > Kirk Vorsatz wrote: > > > > > I have a fantastic fulltime opportunity for a Linux system admin at a > > > 15 year old company where you would be the sol.e IT person responsible > > > for all Desktop (NT and Exchange) as well as overseeing Oracle > > > servers....... Please email me if interested.... Kirk C. Vorsatz > > > Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter > > > Recruiter of the Year 2000 > > > Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 > > > Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 > > > Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division > > > KCV@hallkinion.com > > > 1-888-682-6400 ext 218 > > > 650-345-5600 ext 218 > > > 650-245-7043 cell " Work With The Best ! " > > > > -- > > > > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator > > "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759 > > > > > > -- > Willie Viljoen > Highveld Computing Solutions > > 214 Paul Kruger Avenue > Universitas > Bloemfontein > 9321 > > South Africa > > +27 51 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36 > +27 82 404 03 27 > > will@highveldcs.com > > To find out how we can help you with inventive solutions, visit > http://www.highveldcs.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message -- Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-jobs Wed Aug 28 8:51:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639DB37B400 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.hallkinion.com (smtp.hallkinion.com [206.86.180.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C6B9443E4A for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:50:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kcv@hallkinion.com) Received: from HKPRI-Message_Server by smtp.hallkinion.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:48:38 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:48:29 -0700 From: "Kirk Vorsatz" To: , Cc: "Tom Creighton" Subject: Re: Job for Sr Linux Sys Admin with NT, Oracle and Masters Degree Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_0F5353C6.5839275C" Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_0F5353C6.5839275C Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_0F5353C6.5938265D" --=_0F5353C6.5938265D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been recruiting for a very long time. You can see from my = signature that I have been a top performer for several years at Hall = kinion......let me explain to you the importance of the Master's degree to = this position..... The company is a 15 year old financial company that has the #1 debt = collateralization product in the Stock Trading industry. There location = here in CA has roughly 20 people with at least 12+ developers that have = Masters of PHD's in Mathematics.... the company is ran from a development = point of view. Development has never held much regard for anyone in IT- = there philosophy is if it works that is all that matters. Rather than = have there database run optimally they would rather by new boxes. They = are using EXE as the backup. The reason for the Master's degree is to = help gain the respect of these developers as well as someone with a = Master's will understand IT issues from the developers perspective. Running NT on the Desktop is only part of the position. The challenge is = rearchitecting a 24X7 Linux Oracle environment that already exists and = works today while explaining to the developers that a system in their eyes = that works is not optimal in the future. I welcome your remarks..... Kirk C. Vorsatz Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter Recruiter of the Year 2000 Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division KCV@hallkinion.com 1-888-682-6400 ext 218 650-345-5600 ext 218 650-245-7043 cell " Work With The Best ! " >>> richard childers 08/28/02 07:22AM >>> My point exactly. Points to Willie for thinking clearly. -- richard Willie Viljoen wrote: > Richard, > > At the risk of jumping to conclusions, I think there's probably some > confusion here, a masters degree is probably not what they are looking = for > at all. > > It's a common misconception that people have about the MCSE, a diploma > issued by Microsoft, stating that the holder is qualified to operate a > Windows NT-based network. Because of a lack of non-technical information > about the diploma, many people become confused, and because of the "M" = in > the title, the acronym has been contstrued to mean many interesting > (incorrect) things, including "Masters in Computer Systems Engineering", > ofcourse, it really means "Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer". > > I'm thinking there may have been some miscommunication somewhere along = the > lines where an MCSE turned into a Masters :) > > An MCSE is probably the likely thing the company would want, seeing as > they are using NT machines. > > Somebody with a masters shouldn't be working as a sysadmin, that would > just be wrong :) > > Will > > On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, richard childers wrote: > > > Some people might suggest that Linux has hardly been around long = enough > > to someone to *become* a so-called 'senior Linux administrator'. > > > > What constitutes 'seniority' in Linux? > > > > And what does the master's degree have to be in? > > > > Inquiring minds want to know. (-: > > > > > > Yours for reasonable requirements, > > > > > > -- richard > > > > > > Kirk Vorsatz wrote: > > > > > I have a fantastic fulltime opportunity for a Linux system admin at = a > > > 15 year old company where you would be the sol.e IT person responsibl= e > > > for all Desktop (NT and Exchange) as well as overseeing Oracle > > > servers....... Please email me if interested.... Kirk C. Vorsatz > > > Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter > > > Recruiter of the Year 2000 > > > Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 > > > Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 > > > Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division > > > KCV@hallkinion.com > > > 1-888-682-6400 ext 218 > > > 650-345-5600 ext 218 > > > 650-245-7043 cell " Work With The Best ! " > > > > -- > > > > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator > > "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, = 1759 > > > > > > -- > Willie Viljoen > Highveld Computing Solutions > > 214 Paul Kruger Avenue > Universitas > Bloemfontein > 9321 > > South Africa > > +27 51 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36 > +27 82 404 03 27 > > will@highveldcs.com > > To find out how we can help you with inventive solutions, visit > http://www.highveldcs.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message -- Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759 --=_0F5353C6.5938265D Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: HTML

I have been recruiting for a very long time. You can see from = my=20 signature that I have been a top performer for several years at Hall=20 kinion......let me explain to you the importance of the Master's degree to = this=20 position.....

The company is a 15 year old financial company that has the #1 = debt=20 collateralization product in the Stock Trading industry. There = location=20 here in CA has roughly 20 people with at least 12+ developers that have = Masters=20 of PHD's in Mathematics.... the company is ran from a development point = of=20 view. Development has never held much regard for anyone in IT- = there=20 philosophy is if it works that is all that matters. Rather than have = there=20 database run optimally they would rather by new boxes. They are = using EXE=20 as the backup. The reason for the Master's degree is to help gain = the=20 respect of these developers as well as someone with a Master's will = understand=20 IT issues from the developers perspective.

Running NT on the Desktop is only part of the position. The = challenge=20 is rearchitecting a 24X7 Linux Oracle environment that already exists and = works=20 today while explaining to the developers that a system in their eyes that = works=20 is not optimal in the future. I welcome your remarks.....

Kirk C. Vorsatz
Sr. Executive Technical=20 Recruiter
Recruiter of the Year 2000
Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000,=20 2001
Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001
Hall Kinion=20 Direct-Hire Division

KCV@hallkinion.com
1-888-682-6400= ext=20 218
650-345-5600 ext 218
650-245-7043 = =20 cell

" Work With The Best ! "

>>> richard childers <fscked@pacbell.net> = 08/28/02=20 07:22AM >>>
My point exactly.

Points to Willie for = thinking=20 clearly.

-- richard

Willie Viljoen wrote:

>= =20 Richard,
>
> At the risk of jumping to conclusions, I think = there's=20 probably some
> confusion here, a masters degree is probably not = what they=20 are looking for
> at all.
>
> It's a common misconception= that=20 people have about the MCSE, a diploma
> issued by Microsoft, stating = that=20 the holder is qualified to operate a
> Windows NT-based network. = Because=20 of a lack of non-technical information
> about the diploma, many = people=20 become confused, and because of the "M" in
> the title, the acronym = has=20 been contstrued to mean many interesting
> (incorrect) things, = including=20 "Masters in Computer Systems Engineering",
> ofcourse, it really = means=20 "Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer".
>
> I'm thinking there = may=20 have been some miscommunication somewhere along the
> lines where an = MCSE=20 turned into a Masters :)
>
> An MCSE is probably the likely = thing=20 the company would want, seeing as
> they are using NT=20 machines.
>
> Somebody with a masters shouldn't be working as = a=20 sysadmin, that would
> just be wrong :)
>
>=20 Will
>
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, richard childers=20 wrote:
>
> > Some people might suggest that Linux has = hardly been=20 around long enough
> > to someone to *become* a so-called 'senior = Linux=20 administrator'.
> >
> > What constitutes 'seniority' = in=20 Linux?
> >
> > And what does the master's degree have to = be=20 in?
> >
> > Inquiring minds want to know.  =20 (-:
> >
> >
> > Yours for reasonable=20 requirements,
> >
> >
> > -- richard
>=20 >
> >
> > Kirk Vorsatz wrote:
> >
> = >=20 > I have a fantastic fulltime opportunity for a Linux system = admin at=20 a
> > > 15 year old company where you would be the sol.e IT = person=20 responsible
> > > for all Desktop (NT and Exchange) as well = as=20 overseeing Oracle
> > > servers....... Please email me if=20 interested.... Kirk   C.   Vorsatz
> > > = Sr.=20 Executive Technical Recruiter
> > > Recruiter of the Year=20 2000
> > > Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001
> > = >=20 Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001
> > > Hall = Kinion=20 Direct-Hire Division
> > > KCV@hallkinion.com
> > = >=20 1-888-682-6400 ext 218
> > > 650-345-5600 ext 218
> > = >=20 650-245-7043      cell " Work With The Best ! = "
>=20 >
> > --
> >
> > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC = --=20 Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator
> > "Dont forget=20 nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759
> = >
>=20 >
>
> --
> Willie Viljoen
> Highveld = Computing=20 Solutions
>
> 214 Paul Kruger Avenue
> Universitas
>= ;=20 Bloemfontein
> 9321
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> South Africa
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> +27 = 51=20 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36
> +27 82 404 03 27
>
>=20= will@highveldcs.com
>
> To find out how we can help you = with=20 inventive solutions, visit
> http://www.highveldcs.com/
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--=_0F5353C6.5938265D-- --=_0F5353C6.5839275C Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Kirk Vorsatz.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:Kirk Vorsatz TEL;WORK:650-345-5600 ext 218 ORG:Hall Kinion;Full time Staffing Division EMAIL;WORK;PREF:kcv@hallkinion.com N:Vorsatz;Kirk TITLE:Executive E-Business Recruiter ADR;INTL;WORK;PARCEL;POSTAL:;;1700 S. El Camino Real #108;San Mateo;CA;94002;USA LABEL;INTL;WORK;PARCEL;POSTAL;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Kirk Vorsatz=0A= 1700 S. El Camino Real #108=0A= San Mateo, CA 94002=0A= USA LABEL;DOM;WORK;PARCEL;POSTAL;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Kirk Vorsatz=0A= 1700 S. El Camino Real #108=0A= San Mateo, CA 94002 TEL;CELL:650-245-7043 END:VCARD BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:Kirk Vorsatz EMAIL;WORK;PREF;NGW:kcv@hallkinion.com N:Vorsatz;Kirk END:VCARD --=_0F5353C6.5839275C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-jobs Wed Aug 28 9: 4: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E235937B401 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D1E43E6A for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:04:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7SG3xWB026352; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:03:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@bunrab.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7SG3xup026351; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:03:59 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200208281603.g7SG3xup026351@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: kcv@hallkinion.com Subject: Re: Job for Sr Linux Sys Admin with NT, Oracle and Masters Degree Cc: jobs@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:48:29 -0700 >From: "Kirk Vorsatz" >I have been recruiting for a very long time. You can see from my = >signature that I have been a top performer for several years at Hall = >kinion......let me explain to you the importance of the Master's degree to = >this position..... Indeed...? >The company is a 15 year old financial company that has the #1 debt = >collateralization product in the Stock Trading industry. There location = >here in CA has roughly 20 people with at least 12+ developers that have = >Masters of PHD's in Mathematics.... the company is ran from a development = >point of view. Development has never held much regard for anyone in IT- = >there philosophy is if it works that is all that matters. Rather than = >have there database run optimally they would rather by new boxes. They = >are using EXE as the backup. The reason for the Master's degree is to = >help gain the respect of these developers as well as someone with a = >Master's will understand IT issues from the developers perspective. Many of the colleagues with whom I have worked had PhDs; in particular, with several of the developers at Whistle (both before and after its acquisition by IBM). I have absolutely no reason whatsoever to believe that any of them failed to respect me -- nor did I fail to respect them. Further, my background is in computer science; I have done development; indeed, I tend to be rather more interested in being sure that the theoretical underpinnings of systems I build are solid than a fair proportion of others I have encountered in my career (and I'm not merely referring to PHBs, either). >Running NT on the Desktop is only part of the position. The challenge is = >rearchitecting a 24X7 Linux Oracle environment that already exists and = >works today while explaining to the developers that a system in their eyes = >that works is not optimal in the future. I welcome your remarks..... I will not even try to support a Microsoft product; it is -- as far as I am concerned -- an utter waste of time and other resources. Relying on such a thing as part of a system that is intended to behave reliably is akin to trusting that a structure made of known-defective materials will not collapse unexpectedly. Cheers, david (links to my resume at http://www.catwhisker.org/~david) -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org To paraphrase David Hilbert, there can be no conflicts between the discipline of systems administration and Microsoft, since they have nothing in common. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-jobs Wed Aug 28 9:21:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E5837B400 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.net (narcissus.net [166.84.159.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF3B43E42 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:21:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@narcissus.net) Received: by narcissus.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 075AAD2DEA; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:21:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:21:17 -0400 From: Ben Rosengart To: David Wolfskill Cc: kcv@hallkinion.com, jobs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Job for Sr Linux Sys Admin with NT, Oracle and Masters Degree Message-ID: <20020828162117.GA3471@narcissus.net> References: <200208281603.g7SG3xup026351@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200208281603.g7SG3xup026351@bunrab.catwhisker.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 09:03:59AM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > > I will not even try to support a Microsoft product; it is -- as far as I > am concerned -- an utter waste of time and other resources. Relying on > such a thing as part of a system that is intended to behave reliably is > akin to trusting that a structure made of known-defective materials will > not collapse unexpectedly. If the job being offered isn't what you want, you're better off pressing delete than making a speech. I doubt that the hiring company asked the recruiter's opinion before choosing to run NT on their desktops. -- Ben "When I say 'literally', I literally mean 'literally'." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-jobs Wed Aug 28 11:28:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B45C37B400 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cinnamon.com (adsl-216-100-248-113.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.100.248.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052B543E3B for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:28:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandy@cinnamon.com) Received: from cinnamon.com (gfelop@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cinnamon.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g7SISeog086986; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:28:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandy@cinnamon.com) Message-Id: <200208281828.g7SISeog086986@cinnamon.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Ben Rosengart Cc: David Wolfskill , kcv@hallkinion.com, jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Job for Sr Linux Sys Admin with NT, Oracle and Masters Degree In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:21:17 EDT." <20020828162117.GA3471@narcissus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:28:40 -0700 From: Andrew Beals Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:21:17 -0400, Ben Rosengart wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 09:03:59AM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > > > > I will not even try to support a Microsoft product; it is -- as far as I > > am concerned -- an utter waste of time and other resources. Relying on > > such a thing as part of a system that is intended to behave reliably is > > akin to trusting that a structure made of known-defective materials will > > not collapse unexpectedly. > > If the job being offered isn't what you want, you're better off > pressing delete than making a speech. I doubt that the hiring > company asked the recruiter's opinion before choosing to run NT > on their desktops. Of course the lack of "FreeBSD" anywhere but in the header should have been a big hit off of the ol' clue bong. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-jobs Wed Aug 28 15:18:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75CD37B400 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prometheus.home.laserfence.net (prometheus.laserfence.net [196.44.73.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA0043E4A for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:18:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@highveldcs.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (helo=phoenix.home.laserfence.net) by prometheus.home.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 17kB7y-0003FO-00; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 00:17:30 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 00:17:23 +0200 (SAST) From: Willie Viljoen X-X-Sender: will@phoenix.home.laserfence.net To: Kirk Vorsatz Cc: fscked@pacbell.net, Tom Creighton , Subject: Re: Job for Sr Linux Sys Admin with NT, Oracle and Masters Degree In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020829000349.H417-100000@phoenix.home.laserfence.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I admit the conclusion I chose to jump to was way off the mark, but while I'm busy having my foot surgically removed from my mouth, perhaps the circles of corporate corner office elite may want to explore what is known to the common man as realism, a concept which seems to be frighteningly alien to most people in any industry today. To be frank (and I know I'll be hate-mailed by many people about this), if I were to find someone with a masters degree still working as a system administrator, respect would not be what I feel toward him, it would really be more along the lines of pity. The truth is, sysadmin is a fairly junior position in the IT industry (if there are any sysadmins reading which I didn't just offend deeply, I apologize to you all sincerely). I'm not implying that anyone can do it, a good sysadmin needs to be creative, and have lots of initiative, it's just that I feel anybody in the IT industry who has a masters behind is name, is much better suited to a research post at Berkeley, than making sure a couple of NT machines behave nicely. Lastly, I want you all to accept this comment in the same spirit with which I wrote it, just as I had hoped all concerned would do when receiving my previous post, most specifically Kirk, I never intended to insult you with that post, or question your abilities as a recruiter, but any computer geek with any self respect left in him would be damned to pass up such a sterling opportunity to make fun of successful people :-) Will On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Kirk Vorsatz wrote: > I have been recruiting for a very long time. You can see from my signature that I have been a top performer for several years at Hall kinion......let me explain to you the importance of the Master's degree to this position..... > > The company is a 15 year old financial company that has the #1 debt collateralization product in the Stock Trading industry. There location here in CA has roughly 20 people with at least 12+ developers that have Masters of PHD's in Mathematics.... the company is ran from a development point of view. Development has never held much regard for anyone in IT- there philosophy is if it works that is all that matters. Rather than have there database run optimally they would rather by new boxes. They are using EXE as the backup. The reason for the Master's degree is to help gain the respect of these developers as well as someone with a Master's will understand IT issues from the developers perspective. > > Running NT on the Desktop is only part of the position. The challenge is rearchitecting a 24X7 Linux Oracle environment that already exists and works today while explaining to the developers that a system in their eyes that works is not optimal in the future. I welcome your remarks..... > > Kirk C. Vorsatz > Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter > Recruiter of the Year 2000 > Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 > Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 > Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division > > > KCV@hallkinion.com > 1-888-682-6400 ext 218 > 650-345-5600 ext 218 > 650-245-7043 cell > > " Work With The Best ! " > > > > >>> richard childers 08/28/02 07:22AM >>> > My point exactly. > > Points to Willie for thinking clearly. > > > -- richard > > > Willie Viljoen wrote: > > > Richard, > > > > At the risk of jumping to conclusions, I think there's probably some > > confusion here, a masters degree is probably not what they are looking for > > at all. > > > > It's a common misconception that people have about the MCSE, a diploma > > issued by Microsoft, stating that the holder is qualified to operate a > > Windows NT-based network. Because of a lack of non-technical information > > about the diploma, many people become confused, and because of the "M" in > > the title, the acronym has been contstrued to mean many interesting > > (incorrect) things, including "Masters in Computer Systems Engineering", > > ofcourse, it really means "Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer". > > > > I'm thinking there may have been some miscommunication somewhere along the > > lines where an MCSE turned into a Masters :) > > > > An MCSE is probably the likely thing the company would want, seeing as > > they are using NT machines. > > > > Somebody with a masters shouldn't be working as a sysadmin, that would > > just be wrong :) > > > > Will > > > > On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, richard childers wrote: > > > > > Some people might suggest that Linux has hardly been around long enough > > > to someone to *become* a so-called 'senior Linux administrator'. > > > > > > What constitutes 'seniority' in Linux? > > > > > > And what does the master's degree have to be in? > > > > > > Inquiring minds want to know. (-: > > > > > > > > > Yours for reasonable requirements, > > > > > > > > > -- richard > > > > > > > > > Kirk Vorsatz wrote: > > > > > > > I have a fantastic fulltime opportunity for a Linux system admin at a > > > > 15 year old company where you would be the sol.e IT person responsible > > > > for all Desktop (NT and Exchange) as well as overseeing Oracle > > > > servers....... Please email me if interested.... Kirk C. Vorsatz > > > > Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter > > > > Recruiter of the Year 2000 > > > > Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 > > > > Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 > > > > Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division > > > > KCV@hallkinion.com > > > > 1-888-682-6400 ext 218 > > > > 650-345-5600 ext 218 > > > > 650-245-7043 cell " Work With The Best ! " > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator > > > "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Willie Viljoen > > Highveld Computing Solutions > > > > 214 Paul Kruger Avenue > > Universitas > > Bloemfontein > > 9321 > > > > South Africa > > > > +27 51 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36 > > +27 82 404 03 27 > > > > will@highveldcs.com > > > > To find out how we can help you with inventive solutions, visit > > http://www.highveldcs.com/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message > > -- > > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator > "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759 > -- Willie Viljoen Highveld Computing Solutions 214 Paul Kruger Avenue Universitas Bloemfontein 9321 South Africa +27 51 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36 +27 82 404 03 27 will@highveldcs.com To find out how we can help you with inventive solutions, visit http://www.highveldcs.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-jobs Wed Aug 28 15:31:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D9537B400 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.hallkinion.com (smtp.hallkinion.com [206.86.180.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B47143E72 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:31:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kcv@hallkinion.com) Received: from HKPRI-Message_Server by smtp.hallkinion.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:28:53 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:28:47 -0700 From: "Kirk Vorsatz" To: Cc: , "Tom Creighton" , Subject: Re: to Network Eng job + New Free BSD Driver position Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_C39F9EB5.83E2FCEB" Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_C39F9EB5.83E2FCEB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_C39F9EB5.84E5FBEC" --=_C39F9EB5.84E5FBEC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No sweat Willie, I appreciate your response and all others. I enjoy = seeing professionals like yourself willing to communicate with sales folks = like myself because there is such a distate for recruiters in general. I = do have a FreeBSD Driver position in Houston, Texas that I have had no = response from and I challenge those with this expertise to reach out to = me. In this position you will be part of a senior development team at an = exciting startup company developing drivers in FreeBSD on revolutionary = storage products. The candidate will be responsible for either optimizing = existing drivers or architecting and developing new driver sets. The = drivers developed will be used on an x86 platform and be integrated into = the kernel of the operating system. The ideal candidate will have strong = proven experience developing and/or optimizing storage and network driver = sets.=20 The ideal candidate will be responsible for testing the developed software = and interfacing with external software and hardware architects to = determine root cause of complex hardware, software, or firmware issues. = The candidate will interface with hardware and software architects to = develop best practice driver architecture and functionality.=20 Preferences:=20 Must make modules for new Hardware in BSD and read schematics and chip = data sheets.=20 Expert in Unix kernel and driver development (FreeBSD preferred)=20 Expert in C,C++, shell programming, and assembly=20 Proven experience developing hardware level drivers for Unix platforms.=20 Expert in x86 architecture.=20 5-10 years experience developing C based software in Unix environments=20 5-10 years experience developing software code that interfaces with x86 = hardware=20 Proven experience working with extremely complex problems and developing = creative workarounds in hardware, software, or firmware.=20 A BS degree in Computer Science (or equivalent)=20 Kirk C. Vorsatz Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter Recruiter of the Year 2000 Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division KCV@hallkinion.com 1-888-682-6400 ext 218 650-345-5600 ext 218 650-245-7043 cell " Work With The Best ! " >>> Willie Viljoen 08/28/02 03:17PM >>> I admit the conclusion I chose to jump to was way off the mark, but while I'm busy having my foot surgically removed from my mouth, perhaps the circles of corporate corner office elite may want to explore what is known to the common man as realism, a concept which seems to be frighteningly alien to most people in any industry today. To be frank (and I know I'll be hate-mailed by many people about this), if I were to find someone with a masters degree still working as a system administrator, respect would not be what I feel toward him, it would really be more along the lines of pity. The truth is, sysadmin is a fairly junior position in the IT industry (if there are any sysadmins reading which I didn't just offend deeply, I apologize to you all sincerely). I'm not implying that anyone can do it, a good sysadmin needs to be creative, and have lots of initiative, it's just that I feel anybody in the IT industry who has a masters behind is name, is much better suited to a research post at Berkeley, than making sure a couple of NT machines behave nicely. Lastly, I want you all to accept this comment in the same spirit with which I wrote it, just as I had hoped all concerned would do when receiving my previous post, most specifically Kirk, I never intended to insult you with that post, or question your abilities as a recruiter, but any computer geek with any self respect left in him would be damned to pass up such a sterling opportunity to make fun of successful people :-) Will On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Kirk Vorsatz wrote: > I have been recruiting for a very long time. You can see from my = signature that I have been a top performer for several years at Hall = kinion......let me explain to you the importance of the Master's degree to = this position..... > > The company is a 15 year old financial company that has the #1 debt = collateralization product in the Stock Trading industry. There location = here in CA has roughly 20 people with at least 12+ developers that have = Masters of PHD's in Mathematics.... the company is ran from a development = point of view. Development has never held much regard for anyone in IT- = there philosophy is if it works that is all that matters. Rather than = have there database run optimally they would rather by new boxes. They = are using EXE as the backup. The reason for the Master's degree is to = help gain the respect of these developers as well as someone with a = Master's will understand IT issues from the developers perspective. > > Running NT on the Desktop is only part of the position. The challenge = is rearchitecting a 24X7 Linux Oracle environment that already exists and = works today while explaining to the developers that a system in their eyes = that works is not optimal in the future. I welcome your remarks..... > > Kirk C. Vorsatz > Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter > Recruiter of the Year 2000 > Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 > Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 > Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division > > > KCV@hallkinion.com > 1-888-682-6400 ext 218 > 650-345-5600 ext 218 > 650-245-7043 cell > > " Work With The Best ! " > > > > >>> richard childers 08/28/02 07:22AM >>> > My point exactly. > > Points to Willie for thinking clearly. > > > -- richard > > > Willie Viljoen wrote: > > > Richard, > > > > At the risk of jumping to conclusions, I think there's probably some > > confusion here, a masters degree is probably not what they are looking = for > > at all. > > > > It's a common misconception that people have about the MCSE, a diploma > > issued by Microsoft, stating that the holder is qualified to operate a > > Windows NT-based network. Because of a lack of non-technical informatio= n > > about the diploma, many people become confused, and because of the "M" = in > > the title, the acronym has been contstrued to mean many interesting > > (incorrect) things, including "Masters in Computer Systems Engineering"= , > > ofcourse, it really means "Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer". > > > > I'm thinking there may have been some miscommunication somewhere along = the > > lines where an MCSE turned into a Masters :) > > > > An MCSE is probably the likely thing the company would want, seeing as > > they are using NT machines. > > > > Somebody with a masters shouldn't be working as a sysadmin, that would > > just be wrong :) > > > > Will > > > > On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, richard childers wrote: > > > > > Some people might suggest that Linux has hardly been around long = enough > > > to someone to *become* a so-called 'senior Linux administrator'. > > > > > > What constitutes 'seniority' in Linux? > > > > > > And what does the master's degree have to be in? > > > > > > Inquiring minds want to know. (-: > > > > > > > > > Yours for reasonable requirements, > > > > > > > > > -- richard > > > > > > > > > Kirk Vorsatz wrote: > > > > > > > I have a fantastic fulltime opportunity for a Linux system admin = at a > > > > 15 year old company where you would be the sol.e IT person = responsible > > > > for all Desktop (NT and Exchange) as well as overseeing Oracle > > > > servers....... Please email me if interested.... Kirk C. = Vorsatz > > > > Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter > > > > Recruiter of the Year 2000 > > > > Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 > > > > Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 > > > > Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division > > > > KCV@hallkinion.com > > > > 1-888-682-6400 ext 218 > > > > 650-345-5600 ext 218 > > > > 650-245-7043 cell " Work With The Best ! " > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrato= r > > > "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, = 1759 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Willie Viljoen > > Highveld Computing Solutions > > > > 214 Paul Kruger Avenue > > Universitas > > Bloemfontein > > 9321 > > > > South Africa > > > > +27 51 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36 > > +27 82 404 03 27 > > > > will@highveldcs.com > > > > To find out how we can help you with inventive solutions, visit > > http://www.highveldcs.com/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message > > -- > > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator > "Dont forget nothing." 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No sweat Willie, I appreciate your response and all others. I = enjoy=20 seeing professionals like yourself willing to communicate with sales folks = like=20 myself because there is such a distate for recruiters in general. I = do=20 have a FreeBSD Driver position in Houston, Texas that I have had no = response=20 from and I challenge those with this expertise to reach out to me.

In this position you will be part of a senior development team at = an=20 exciting startup company developing drivers in FreeBSD on revolutionary = storage=20 products. The candidate will be responsible for either optimizing = existing=20 drivers or architecting and developing new driver sets. The drivers = developed=20 will be used on an x86 platform and be integrated into the kernel of = the=20 operating system. The ideal candidate will have strong proven experience=20= developing and/or optimizing storage and network driver sets.=20

The ideal candidate will be responsible for testing the developed = software=20 and interfacing with external software and hardware architects to = determine root=20 cause of complex hardware, software, or firmware issues. The candidate = will=20 interface with hardware and software architects to develop best practice = driver=20 architecture and functionality.=20

Preferences:=20

Must make modules for new Hardware in BSD and read schematics and = chip=20 data sheets.=20
Expert in Unix kernel and driver development (FreeBSD preferred)=20
Expert in C,C++, shell programming, and assembly=20
Proven experience developing hardware level drivers for Unix = platforms.=20
Expert in x86 architecture.=20
5-10 years experience developing C based software in Unix environment= s=20
5-10 years experience developing software code that interfaces with = x86=20 hardware=20
Proven experience working with extremely complex problems and = developing=20 creative workarounds in hardware, software, or firmware.=20
A BS degree in Computer Science (or equivalent)

KCV@hallkinion.com
1-888-682-64= 00 ext=20 218
650-345-5600 ext 218
650-245-7043 = =20 cell

" Work With The Best ! "

To=20 be frank (and I know I'll be hate-mailed by many people about this), = if
I=20 were to find someone with a masters degree still working as a=20 system
administrator, respect would not be what I feel toward him, = it=20 would
really be more along the lines of pity.

The truth is, = sysadmin=20 is a fairly junior position in the IT industry (if
there are any = sysadmins=20 reading which I didn't just offend deeply, I
apologize to you all=20 sincerely). I'm not implying that anyone can do it,
a good sysadmin = needs=20 to be creative, and have lots of initiative, it's
just that I feel = anybody=20 in the IT industry who has a masters behind is
name, is much better = suited=20 to a research post at Berkeley, than making
sure a couple of NT = machines=20 behave nicely.

Lastly, I want you all to accept this comment in = the=20 same spirit with
which I wrote it, just as I had hoped all concerned = would=20 do when
receiving my previous post, most specifically Kirk, I = never=20 intended to
insult you with that post, or question your abilities as = a=20 recruiter, but
any computer geek with any self respect left in him = would be=20 damned to
pass up such a sterling opportunity to make fun of = successful=20 people :-)

Will

On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Kirk Vorsatz=20 wrote:

> I have been recruiting for a very long time. = You can=20 see from my signature that I have been a top performer for several years = at=20 Hall kinion......let me explain to you the importance of the Master's = degree=20 to this position.....
>
> The company is a 15 year old = financial=20 company that has the #1 debt collateralization product in the Stock = Trading=20 industry. There location here in CA has roughly 20 people with at = least=20 12+ developers that have Masters of PHD's in Mathematics.... the company = is=20 ran from a development point of view. Development has never held = much=20 regard for anyone in IT- there philosophy is if it works that is all = that=20 matters. Rather than have there database run optimally they would = rather=20 by new boxes. They are using EXE as the backup. The reason = for the=20 Master's degree is to help gain the respect of these developers as well = as=20 someone with a Master's will understand IT issues from the developers=20 perspective.
>
> Running NT on the Desktop is only part of = the=20 position. The challenge is rearchitecting a 24X7 Linux Oracle=20 environment that already exists and works today while explaining to = the=20 developers that a system in their eyes that works is not optimal in = the=20 future. I welcome your remarks.....
>
> Kirk  = ;=20 C.   Vorsatz
> Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter
>= =20 Recruiter of the Year 2000
> Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001
&g= t;=20 Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001
> Hall Kinion = Direct-Hire=20 Division
>
>
> KCV@hallkinion.com
> 1-888-682-640= 0 ext=20 218
> 650-345-5600 ext 218
>=20 650-245-7043      cell
>
> " Work = With=20 The Best ! "
>
>
>
> >>> richard = childers=20 <fscked@pacbell.net> 08/28/02 07:22AM >>>
> My = point=20 exactly.
>
> Points to Willie for thinking=20 clearly.
>
>
> -- richard
>
>
> = Willie=20 Viljoen wrote:
>
> > Richard,
> >
> > = At the=20 risk of jumping to conclusions, I think there's probably some
> = >=20 confusion here, a masters degree is probably not what they are looking=20= for
> > at all.
> >
> > It's a common = misconception=20 that people have about the MCSE, a diploma
> > issued by = Microsoft,=20 stating that the holder is qualified to operate a
> > Windows=20= NT-based network. Because of a lack of non-technical information
> = >=20 about the diploma, many people become confused, and because of the = "M"=20 in
> > the title, the acronym has been contstrued to mean = many=20 interesting
> > (incorrect) things, including "Masters in = Computer=20 Systems Engineering",
> > ofcourse, it really means "Microsoft= =20 Certified Systems Engineer".
> >
> > I'm thinking = there may=20 have been some miscommunication somewhere along the
> > lines = where=20 an MCSE turned into a Masters :)
> >
> > An MCSE is = probably=20 the likely thing the company would want, seeing as
> > they are = using=20 NT machines.
> >
> > Somebody with a masters shouldn't = be=20 working as a sysadmin, that would
> > just be wrong :)
>= =20 >
> > Will
> >
> > On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, = richard=20 childers wrote:
> >
> > > Some people might suggest = that=20 Linux has hardly been around long enough
> > > to someone = to=20 *become* a so-called 'senior Linux administrator'.
> > = >
>=20 > > What constitutes 'seniority' in Linux?
> > >
>= ;=20 > > And what does the master's degree have to be in?
> = >=20 >
> > > Inquiring minds want to know.   = (-:
>=20 > >
> > >
> > > Yours for reasonable=20 requirements,
> > >
> > >
> > > = --=20 richard
> > >
> > >
> > > Kirk = Vorsatz=20 wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have a = fantastic=20 fulltime opportunity for a Linux system admin at a
> > > = > 15=20 year old company where you would be the sol.e IT person responsible
&g= t;=20 > > > for all Desktop (NT and Exchange) as well as overseeing=20= Oracle
> > > > servers....... Please email me if = interested....=20 Kirk   C.   Vorsatz
> > > > Sr. = Executive=20 Technical Recruiter
> > > > Recruiter of the Year = 2000
>=20 > > > Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001
> > > = >=20 Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001
> > > > = Hall=20 Kinion Direct-Hire Division
> > > > KCV@hallkinion.com
= >=20 > > > 1-888-682-6400 ext 218
> > > > 650-345-5600= ext=20 218
> > > > 650-245-7043      = cell "=20 Work With The Best ! "
> > >
> > > --
> = >=20 >
> > > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System = &=20 Network Administrator
> > > "Dont forget nothing." Maj = Rogers,=20 standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759
> > >
> >=20 >
> >
> > --
> > Willie Viljoen
> = >=20 Highveld Computing Solutions
> >
> > 214 Paul = Kruger=20 Avenue
> > Universitas
> > Bloemfontein
> = >=20 9321
> >
> > South Africa
> >
> > = +27 51=20 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36
> > +27 82 404 03 27
>=20 >
> > will@highveldcs.com
> >
> > To find = out=20 how we can help you with inventive solutions, visit
> > http://www.highveldcs.com/
>= ;=20 >
> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
&= gt;=20 > with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the=20 message
>
> --
>
> Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- = Senor=20 UNIX System & Network Administrator
> "Dont forget nothing." = Maj=20 Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759
>

--
Willie= =20 Viljoen
Highveld Computing Solutions

214 Paul Kruger=20 Avenue
Universitas
Bloemfontein
9321

South Africa

= +27=20 51 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36
+27 82 404 03=20 27

will@highveldcs.com

To find out how we can help you = with=20 inventive solutions, visit
http://www.highveldcs.com/

--=_C39F9EB5.84E5FBEC-- --=_C39F9EB5.83E2FCEB Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Kirk Vorsatz.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:Kirk Vorsatz TEL;WORK:650-345-5600 ext 218 ORG:Hall Kinion;Full time Staffing Division EMAIL;WORK;PREF:kcv@hallkinion.com N:Vorsatz;Kirk TITLE:Executive E-Business Recruiter ADR;INTL;WORK;PARCEL;POSTAL:;;1700 S. El Camino Real #108;San Mateo;CA;94002;USA LABEL;INTL;WORK;PARCEL;POSTAL;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Kirk Vorsatz=0A= 1700 S. El Camino Real #108=0A= San Mateo, CA 94002=0A= USA LABEL;DOM;WORK;PARCEL;POSTAL;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Kirk Vorsatz=0A= 1700 S. El Camino Real #108=0A= San Mateo, CA 94002 TEL;CELL:650-245-7043 END:VCARD BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:Kirk Vorsatz EMAIL;WORK;PREF;NGW:kcv@hallkinion.com N:Vorsatz;Kirk END:VCARD --=_C39F9EB5.83E2FCEB-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-jobs Wed Aug 28 15:37:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF6737B400 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prometheus.home.laserfence.net (prometheus.laserfence.net [196.44.73.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203C643E6A for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:37:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@highveldcs.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (helo=phoenix.home.laserfence.net) by prometheus.home.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 17kBQc-0003H5-00; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 00:36:46 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 00:36:39 +0200 (SAST) From: Willie Viljoen X-X-Sender: will@phoenix.home.laserfence.net To: Kirk Vorsatz Cc: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org, Tom Creighton , Subject: Re: to Network Eng job + New Free BSD Driver position In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020829003445.J417-100000@phoenix.home.laserfence.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kirk, That's more like it :) In this case, I can see a good reason for needing a BSc, kernel developing is rather complex, I wouldn't even attempt it on a good day (I'll stick to setting up firewalls and encryption :-) You might want to check out rentacoder.com, and post this one there, some old-timers and CS students are bound to reply. Will On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Kirk Vorsatz wrote: > No sweat Willie, I appreciate your response and all others. I enjoy seeing professionals like yourself willing to communicate with sales folks like myself because there is such a distate for recruiters in general. I do have a FreeBSD Driver position in Houston, Texas that I have had no response from and I challenge those with this expertise to reach out to me. > > In this position you will be part of a senior development team at an exciting startup company developing drivers in FreeBSD on revolutionary storage products. The candidate will be responsible for either optimizing existing drivers or architecting and developing new driver sets. The drivers developed will be used on an x86 platform and be integrated into the kernel of the operating system. The ideal candidate will have strong proven experience developing and/or optimizing storage and network driver sets. > The ideal candidate will be responsible for testing the developed software and interfacing with external software and hardware architects to determine root cause of complex hardware, software, or firmware issues. The candidate will interface with hardware and software architects to develop best practice driver architecture and functionality. > Preferences: > Must make modules for new Hardware in BSD and read schematics and chip data sheets. > Expert in Unix kernel and driver development (FreeBSD preferred) > Expert in C,C++, shell programming, and assembly > Proven experience developing hardware level drivers for Unix platforms. > Expert in x86 architecture. > 5-10 years experience developing C based software in Unix environments > 5-10 years experience developing software code that interfaces with x86 hardware > Proven experience working with extremely complex problems and developing creative workarounds in hardware, software, or firmware. > A BS degree in Computer Science (or equivalent) > Kirk C. Vorsatz > Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter > Recruiter of the Year 2000 > Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 > Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 > Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division > > KCV@hallkinion.com > 1-888-682-6400 ext 218 > 650-345-5600 ext 218 > 650-245-7043 cell > " Work With The Best ! " > > > >>> Willie Viljoen 08/28/02 03:17PM >>> > I admit the conclusion I chose to jump to was way off the mark, but while > I'm busy having my foot surgically removed from my mouth, perhaps the > circles of corporate corner office elite may want to explore what is known > to the common man as realism, a concept which seems to be frighteningly > alien to most people in any industry today. > > To be frank (and I know I'll be hate-mailed by many people about this), if > I were to find someone with a masters degree still working as a system > administrator, respect would not be what I feel toward him, it would > really be more along the lines of pity. > > The truth is, sysadmin is a fairly junior position in the IT industry (if > there are any sysadmins reading which I didn't just offend deeply, I > apologize to you all sincerely). I'm not implying that anyone can do it, > a good sysadmin needs to be creative, and have lots of initiative, it's > just that I feel anybody in the IT industry who has a masters behind is > name, is much better suited to a research post at Berkeley, than making > sure a couple of NT machines behave nicely. > > Lastly, I want you all to accept this comment in the same spirit with > which I wrote it, just as I had hoped all concerned would do when > receiving my previous post, most specifically Kirk, I never intended to > insult you with that post, or question your abilities as a recruiter, but > any computer geek with any self respect left in him would be damned to > pass up such a sterling opportunity to make fun of successful people :-) > > Will > > On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Kirk Vorsatz wrote: > > > I have been recruiting for a very long time. You can see from my signature that I have been a top performer for several years at Hall kinion......let me explain to you the importance of the Master's degree to this position..... > > > > The company is a 15 year old financial company that has the #1 debt collateralization product in the Stock Trading industry. There location here in CA has roughly 20 people with at least 12+ developers that have Masters of PHD's in Mathematics.... the company is ran from a development point of view. Development has never held much regard for anyone in IT- there philosophy is if it works that is all that matters. Rather than have there database run optimally they would rather by new boxes. They are using EXE as the backup. The reason for the Master's degree is to help gain the respect of these developers as well as someone with a Master's will understand IT issues from the developers perspective. > > > > Running NT on the Desktop is only part of the position. The challenge is rearchitecting a 24X7 Linux Oracle environment that already exists and works today while explaining to the developers that a system in their eyes that works is not optimal in the future. I welcome your remarks..... > > > > Kirk C. Vorsatz > > Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter > > Recruiter of the Year 2000 > > Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 > > Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 > > Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division > > > > > > KCV@hallkinion.com > > 1-888-682-6400 ext 218 > > 650-345-5600 ext 218 > > 650-245-7043 cell > > > > " Work With The Best ! " > > > > > > > > >>> richard childers 08/28/02 07:22AM >>> > > My point exactly. > > > > Points to Willie for thinking clearly. > > > > > > -- richard > > > > > > Willie Viljoen wrote: > > > > > Richard, > > > > > > At the risk of jumping to conclusions, I think there's probably some > > > confusion here, a masters degree is probably not what they are looking for > > > at all. > > > > > > It's a common misconception that people have about the MCSE, a diploma > > > issued by Microsoft, stating that the holder is qualified to operate a > > > Windows NT-based network. Because of a lack of non-technical information > > > about the diploma, many people become confused, and because of the "M" in > > > the title, the acronym has been contstrued to mean many interesting > > > (incorrect) things, including "Masters in Computer Systems Engineering", > > > ofcourse, it really means "Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer". > > > > > > I'm thinking there may have been some miscommunication somewhere along the > > > lines where an MCSE turned into a Masters :) > > > > > > An MCSE is probably the likely thing the company would want, seeing as > > > they are using NT machines. > > > > > > Somebody with a masters shouldn't be working as a sysadmin, that would > > > just be wrong :) > > > > > > Will > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, richard childers wrote: > > > > > > > Some people might suggest that Linux has hardly been around long enough > > > > to someone to *become* a so-called 'senior Linux administrator'. > > > > > > > > What constitutes 'seniority' in Linux? > > > > > > > > And what does the master's degree have to be in? > > > > > > > > Inquiring minds want to know. (-: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours for reasonable requirements, > > > > > > > > > > > > -- richard > > > > > > > > > > > > Kirk Vorsatz wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have a fantastic fulltime opportunity for a Linux system admin at a > > > > > 15 year old company where you would be the sol.e IT person responsible > > > > > for all Desktop (NT and Exchange) as well as overseeing Oracle > > > > > servers....... Please email me if interested.... Kirk C. Vorsatz > > > > > Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter > > > > > Recruiter of the Year 2000 > > > > > Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 > > > > > Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 > > > > > Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division > > > > > KCV@hallkinion.com > > > > > 1-888-682-6400 ext 218 > > > > > 650-345-5600 ext 218 > > > > > 650-245-7043 cell " Work With The Best ! " > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator > > > > "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Willie Viljoen > > > Highveld Computing Solutions > > > > > > 214 Paul Kruger Avenue > > > Universitas > > > Bloemfontein > > > 9321 > > > > > > South Africa > > > > > > +27 51 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36 > > > +27 82 404 03 27 > > > > > > will@highveldcs.com > > > > > > To find out how we can help you with inventive solutions, visit > > > http://www.highveldcs.com/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > > > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator > > "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759 > > > > -- Willie Viljoen Highveld Computing Solutions 214 Paul Kruger Avenue Universitas Bloemfontein 9321 South Africa +27 51 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36 +27 82 404 03 27 will@highveldcs.com To find out how we can help you with inventive solutions, visit http://www.highveldcs.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-jobs Wed Aug 28 15:45: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DE437B400 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D7843E3B for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:44:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA50389; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:44:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:44:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Hovey To: Willie Viljoen Cc: Kirk Vorsatz , fscked@pacbell.net, Tom Creighton , freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Job for Sr Linux Sys Admin with NT, Oracle and Masters Degree In-Reply-To: <20020829000349.H417-100000@phoenix.home.laserfence.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org All want ads for personnel shoot for the stars. Its the best/closest of who puts in that gets the job. Thats why one should never be discouraged from submitting a resume to something that sounds interesting, where one has most or many of the skills requested. For most wantads, the unrealistic criteria serve to weed out the total losers, and to garner interesting and varied responses. There is also that one truth - that if you arent an actual computer industry 'doer' you really dont have a grip on the labels, words, and duties. (which is another reason to not be discouraged in submitting a resume - the guy who listed the wantads is using terms without an inside view in many cases) On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Willie Viljoen wrote: > I admit the conclusion I chose to jump to was way off the mark, but while > I'm busy having my foot surgically removed from my mouth, perhaps the > circles of corporate corner office elite may want to explore what is known > to the common man as realism, a concept which seems to be frighteningly > alien to most people in any industry today. > > To be frank (and I know I'll be hate-mailed by many people about this), if > I were to find someone with a masters degree still working as a system > administrator, respect would not be what I feel toward him, it would > really be more along the lines of pity. > > The truth is, sysadmin is a fairly junior position in the IT industry (if > there are any sysadmins reading which I didn't just offend deeply, I > apologize to you all sincerely). I'm not implying that anyone can do it, > a good sysadmin needs to be creative, and have lots of initiative, it's > just that I feel anybody in the IT industry who has a masters behind is > name, is much better suited to a research post at Berkeley, than making > sure a couple of NT machines behave nicely. > > Lastly, I want you all to accept this comment in the same spirit with > which I wrote it, just as I had hoped all concerned would do when > receiving my previous post, most specifically Kirk, I never intended to > insult you with that post, or question your abilities as a recruiter, but > any computer geek with any self respect left in him would be damned to > pass up such a sterling opportunity to make fun of successful people :-) > > Will > > On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Kirk Vorsatz wrote: > > > I have been recruiting for a very long time. You can see from my signature that I have been a top performer for several years at Hall kinion......let me explain to you the importance of the Master's degree to this position..... > > > > The company is a 15 year old financial company that has the #1 debt collateralization product in the Stock Trading industry. There location here in CA has roughly 20 people with at least 12+ developers that have Masters of PHD's in Mathematics.... the company is ran from a development point of view. Development has never held much regard for anyone in IT- there philosophy is if it works that is all that matters. Rather than have there database run optimally they would rather by new boxes. They are using EXE as the backup. The reason for the Master's degree is to help gain the respect of these developers as well as someone with a Master's will understand IT issues from the developers perspective. > > > > Running NT on the Desktop is only part of the position. The challenge is rearchitecting a 24X7 Linux Oracle environment that already exists and works today while explaining to the developers that a system in their eyes that works is not optimal in the future. I welcome your remarks..... > > > > Kirk C. Vorsatz > > Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter > > Recruiter of the Year 2000 > > Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 > > Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 > > Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division > > > > > > KCV@hallkinion.com > > 1-888-682-6400 ext 218 > > 650-345-5600 ext 218 > > 650-245-7043 cell > > > > " Work With The Best ! " > > > > > > > > >>> richard childers 08/28/02 07:22AM >>> > > My point exactly. > > > > Points to Willie for thinking clearly. > > > > > > -- richard > > > > > > Willie Viljoen wrote: > > > > > Richard, > > > > > > At the risk of jumping to conclusions, I think there's probably some > > > confusion here, a masters degree is probably not what they are looking for > > > at all. > > > > > > It's a common misconception that people have about the MCSE, a diploma > > > issued by Microsoft, stating that the holder is qualified to operate a > > > Windows NT-based network. Because of a lack of non-technical information > > > about the diploma, many people become confused, and because of the "M" in > > > the title, the acronym has been contstrued to mean many interesting > > > (incorrect) things, including "Masters in Computer Systems Engineering", > > > ofcourse, it really means "Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer". > > > > > > I'm thinking there may have been some miscommunication somewhere along the > > > lines where an MCSE turned into a Masters :) > > > > > > An MCSE is probably the likely thing the company would want, seeing as > > > they are using NT machines. > > > > > > Somebody with a masters shouldn't be working as a sysadmin, that would > > > just be wrong :) > > > > > > Will > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, richard childers wrote: > > > > > > > Some people might suggest that Linux has hardly been around long enough > > > > to someone to *become* a so-called 'senior Linux administrator'. > > > > > > > > What constitutes 'seniority' in Linux? > > > > > > > > And what does the master's degree have to be in? > > > > > > > > Inquiring minds want to know. (-: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours for reasonable requirements, > > > > > > > > > > > > -- richard > > > > > > > > > > > > Kirk Vorsatz wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have a fantastic fulltime opportunity for a Linux system admin at a > > > > > 15 year old company where you would be the sol.e IT person responsible > > > > > for all Desktop (NT and Exchange) as well as overseeing Oracle > > > > > servers....... Please email me if interested.... Kirk C. Vorsatz > > > > > Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter > > > > > Recruiter of the Year 2000 > > > > > Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 > > > > > Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 > > > > > Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division > > > > > KCV@hallkinion.com > > > > > 1-888-682-6400 ext 218 > > > > > 650-345-5600 ext 218 > > > > > 650-245-7043 cell " Work With The Best ! " > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator > > > > "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Willie Viljoen > > > Highveld Computing Solutions > > > > > > 214 Paul Kruger Avenue > > > Universitas > > > Bloemfontein > > > 9321 > > > > > > South Africa > > > > > > +27 51 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36 > > > +27 82 404 03 27 > > > > > > will@highveldcs.com > > > > > > To find out how we can help you with inventive solutions, visit > > > http://www.highveldcs.com/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > > > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator > > "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759 > > > > -- > Willie Viljoen > Highveld Computing Solutions > > 214 Paul Kruger Avenue > Universitas > Bloemfontein > 9321 > > South Africa > > +27 51 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36 > +27 82 404 03 27 > > will@highveldcs.com > > To find out how we can help you with inventive solutions, visit > http://www.highveldcs.com/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-jobs Wed Aug 28 20:36:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC7637B400 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44E9B43E3B for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:36:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1031024194.bec400@mired.org) Received: (qmail 11193 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2002 03:36:34 -0000 Received: from localhost.mired.org (HELO guru.mired.org) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.mired.org with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 03:36:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15725.38593.805600.192373@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:36:33 -0500 To: richard childers Cc: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mike is no longer accepting html email In-Reply-To: <3D6C1535.CB317D10@pacbell.net> References: <200208272221.g7RMLJ5x021272@pop2-ext.prodigy.net> <3D6C1535.CB317D10@pacbell.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: Mike Meyer X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.59 Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In <3D6C1535.CB317D10@pacbell.net>, richard childers typed: > Mike, > > I don't care if you're not accepting HTML mail. > > Keep it to yourself; tell your friends; but don't waste my time. Quit sending it to me, and my daemon quit telling you as about it. Thanks. > > > -- richard > > > mwm-jobs.3400ce@mired.org wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > You have sent me email which appears to be, or contain, HTML > > text. Sending HTML texts is one of the primary means viruses use to > > spread themselves. Therefore, I am no longer accepting such email. If > > you feel the message is important, please adjust your mailer to send > > plain text instead of html, and resend the message. > > > > Thank you, > > > > > [ This notice was generated by TMDA v0.59 (http://tmda.net/), > > an automated junk-mail reduction system. ] > > > > --- Enclosed is a copy of your message. > > > > Received: (qmail 3506 invoked by uid 100); 27 Aug 2002 22:21:14 -0000 > > Delivered-To: mwm-jobs.3400ce@192.168.1.1 > > Received: (qmail 3500 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2002 22:21:14 -0000 > > Received: from librarian.mired.org (192.168.1.130) > > by guru.mired.org with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 22:21:14 -0000 > > Received: (qmail 3578 invoked by uid 100); 27 Aug 2002 22:21:14 -0000 > > Delivered-To: mwm-jobs.3400ce@mired.org > > X-Originally-To: mwm-jobs.3400ce@mired.org > > Received: (qmail 3571 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2002 22:21:13 -0000 > > Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (216.136.204.119) > > by librarian.mired.org with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 22:21:13 -0000 > > Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.18]) > > by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP > > id B660555B12; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:21:08 -0700 (PDT) > > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG) > > Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538) > > id DFE5737B401; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:21:07 -0700 (PDT) > > Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP > > id CCA602E800E; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:21:07 -0700 (PDT) > > Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:21:07 -0700 > > Delivered-To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org > > Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) > > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791E337B400 > > for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:21:04 -0700 (PDT) > > Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) > > by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327A743E42 > > for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:21:04 -0700 (PDT) > > (envelope-from fscked@pacbell.net) > > Received: from pacbell.net ([66.124.232.41]) > > by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) > > with ESMTP id <0H1I00J2QWQYN2@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for > > freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:21:04 -0700 (PDT) > > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:24:07 -0700 > > From: richard childers > > Subject: Re: Job for Sr Linux Sys Admin with NT, Oracle and Masters Degree > > To: Kirk Vorsatz > > Cc: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org > > Message-id: <3D6BFC07.DF10F068@pacbell.net> > > MIME-version: 1.0 > > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (WinNT; U) > > Content-type: multipart/alternative; > > boundary="Boundary_(ID_QF53SOqsCBYvYEj/KgNnMA)" > > X-Accept-Language: en > > References: > > Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG > > List-ID: > > List-Archive: (Web Archive) > > List-Help: (List Instructions) > > List-Subscribe: > > List-Unsubscribe: > > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Precedence: bulk > > > > --Boundary_(ID_QF53SOqsCBYvYEj/KgNnMA) > > Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > > > Some people might suggest that Linux has hardly been around long enough > > to someone to *become* a so-called 'senior Linux administrator'. > > > > What constitutes 'seniority' in Linux? > > > > And what does the master's degree have to be in? > > > > Inquiring minds want to know. (-: > > > > Yours for reasonable requirements, > > > > -- richard > > > > Kirk Vorsatz wrote: > > > > > I have a fantastic fulltime opportunity for a Linux system admin at a > > > 15 year old company where you would be the sol.e IT person responsible > > > for all Desktop (NT and Exchange) as well as overseeing Oracle > > > servers....... Please email me if interested.... Kirk C. Vorsatz > > > Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter > > > Recruiter of the Year 2000 > > > Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 > > > Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 > > > Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division > > > KCV@hallkinion.com > > > 1-888-682-6400 ext 218 > > > 650-345-5600 ext 218 > > > 650-245-7043 cell " Work With The Best ! " > > > > -- > > > > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator > > "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759 > > > > --Boundary_(ID_QF53SOqsCBYvYEj/KgNnMA) > > Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > > > > > > > > > Some people might suggest that Linux has hardly been around long enough > > to someone to *become* a so-called 'senior Linux administrator'. > >

What constitutes 'seniority' in Linux? > >

And what does the master's degree have to be in? > >

Inquiring minds want to know. (-: > >
> >

Yours for reasonable requirements, > >
> >

-- richard > >
> >

Kirk Vorsatz wrote: > >

I have a fantastic fulltime opportunity for > > a Linux system admin at a 15 year old company where you would be the sol.e > > IT person responsible for all Desktop (NT and Exchange) as well as overseeing > > Oracle servers....... Please email me if interested.... Kirk   > > C.   Vorsatz > >
Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter > >
Recruiter of the Year 2000 > >
Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 > >
Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 > >
Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division   > >
KCV@hallkinion.com > >
1-888-682-6400 ext 218 > >
650-345-5600 ext 218 > >
650-245-7043      cell " Work With The > > Best ! "

> > > >

-- > >

Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator > >
"Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, > > 1759 > >
> > > > > > > > --Boundary_(ID_QF53SOqsCBYvYEj/KgNnMA)-- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message > > -- > > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator > "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message > -- Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-jobs Wed Aug 28 20:56:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2B837B400 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB14243E4A for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:55:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1031025305.d8ada1@mired.org) Received: (qmail 11356 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2002 03:55:05 -0000 Received: from localhost.mired.org (HELO guru.mired.org) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.mired.org with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 03:55:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15725.39705.260646.506300@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:55:05 -0500 To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Subject: Apologies (Was: Mike is no longer accepting html email) In-Reply-To: <15725.38593.805600.192373@guru.mired.org> References: <200208272221.g7RMLJ5x021272@pop2-ext.prodigy.net> <3D6C1535.CB317D10@pacbell.net> <15725.38593.805600.192373@guru.mired.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: Mike Meyer X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.59 Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My apologies to the list for sending my reply to it. This clearly doesn't belong on it, and my daemon does not reply to any address but the one indicated by the original author. , Mike Meyer typed: > In <3D6C1535.CB317D10@pacbell.net>, richard childers typed: > > Mike, > > > > I don't care if you're not accepting HTML mail. > > > > Keep it to yourself; tell your friends; but don't waste my time. > > Quit sending it to me, and my daemon quit telling you as about it. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > -- richard > > > > > > mwm-jobs.3400ce@mired.org wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > You have sent me email which appears to be, or contain, HTML > > > text. Sending HTML texts is one of the primary means viruses use to > > > spread themselves. Therefore, I am no longer accepting such email. If > > > you feel the message is important, please adjust your mailer to send > > > plain text instead of html, and resend the message. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > [ This notice was generated by TMDA v0.59 (http://tmda.net/), > > > an automated junk-mail reduction system. ] > > > > > > --- Enclosed is a copy of your message. > > > > > > Received: (qmail 3506 invoked by uid 100); 27 Aug 2002 22:21:14 -0000 > > > Delivered-To: mwm-jobs.3400ce@192.168.1.1 > > > Received: (qmail 3500 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2002 22:21:14 -0000 > > > Received: from librarian.mired.org (192.168.1.130) > > > by guru.mired.org with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 22:21:14 -0000 > > > Received: (qmail 3578 invoked by uid 100); 27 Aug 2002 22:21:14 -0000 > > > Delivered-To: mwm-jobs.3400ce@mired.org > > > X-Originally-To: mwm-jobs.3400ce@mired.org > > > Received: (qmail 3571 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2002 22:21:13 -0000 > > > Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (216.136.204.119) > > > by librarian.mired.org with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 22:21:13 -0000 > > > Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.18]) > > > by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP > > > id B660555B12; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:21:08 -0700 (PDT) > > > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG) > > > Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538) > > > id DFE5737B401; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:21:07 -0700 (PDT) > > > Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > > > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP > > > id CCA602E800E; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:21:07 -0700 (PDT) > > > Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:21:07 -0700 > > > Delivered-To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org > > > Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) > > > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791E337B400 > > > for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:21:04 -0700 (PDT) > > > Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) > > > by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327A743E42 > > > for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:21:04 -0700 (PDT) > > > (envelope-from fscked@pacbell.net) > > > Received: from pacbell.net ([66.124.232.41]) > > > by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) > > > with ESMTP id <0H1I00J2QWQYN2@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for > > > freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:21:04 -0700 (PDT) > > > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:24:07 -0700 > > > From: richard childers > > > Subject: Re: Job for Sr Linux Sys Admin with NT, Oracle and Masters Degree > > > To: Kirk Vorsatz > > > Cc: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org > > > Message-id: <3D6BFC07.DF10F068@pacbell.net> > > > MIME-version: 1.0 > > > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (WinNT; U) > > > Content-type: multipart/alternative; > > > boundary="Boundary_(ID_QF53SOqsCBYvYEj/KgNnMA)" > > > X-Accept-Language: en > > > References: > > > Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG > > > List-ID: > > > List-Archive: (Web Archive) > > > List-Help: (List Instructions) > > > List-Subscribe: > > > List-Unsubscribe: > > > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > Precedence: bulk > > > > > > --Boundary_(ID_QF53SOqsCBYvYEj/KgNnMA) > > > Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > > > > > Some people might suggest that Linux has hardly been around long enough > > > to someone to *become* a so-called 'senior Linux administrator'. > > > > > > What constitutes 'seniority' in Linux? > > > > > > And what does the master's degree have to be in? > > > > > > Inquiring minds want to know. (-: > > > > > > Yours for reasonable requirements, > > > > > > -- richard > > > > > > Kirk Vorsatz wrote: > > > > > > > I have a fantastic fulltime opportunity for a Linux system admin at a > > > > 15 year old company where you would be the sol.e IT person responsible > > > > for all Desktop (NT and Exchange) as well as overseeing Oracle > > > > servers....... Please email me if interested.... Kirk C. Vorsatz > > > > Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter > > > > Recruiter of the Year 2000 > > > > Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 > > > > Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 > > > > Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division > > > > KCV@hallkinion.com > > > > 1-888-682-6400 ext 218 > > > > 650-345-5600 ext 218 > > > > 650-245-7043 cell " Work With The Best ! " > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator > > > "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759 > > > > > > --Boundary_(ID_QF53SOqsCBYvYEj/KgNnMA) > > > Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > > > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some people might suggest that Linux has hardly been around long enough > > > to someone to *become* a so-called 'senior Linux administrator'. > > >

What constitutes 'seniority' in Linux? > > >

And what does the master's degree have to be in? > > >

Inquiring minds want to know. (-: > > >
> > >

Yours for reasonable requirements, > > >
> > >

-- richard > > >
> > >

Kirk Vorsatz wrote: > > >

I have a fantastic fulltime opportunity for > > > a Linux system admin at a 15 year old company where you would be the sol.e > > > IT person responsible for all Desktop (NT and Exchange) as well as overseeing > > > Oracle servers....... Please email me if interested.... Kirk   > > > C.   Vorsatz > > >
Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter > > >
Recruiter of the Year 2000 > > >
Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 > > >
Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 > > >
Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division   > > >
KCV@hallkinion.com > > >
1-888-682-6400 ext 218 > > >
650-345-5600 ext 218 > > >
650-245-7043      cell " Work With The > > > Best ! "

> > > > > >

-- > > >

Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator > > >
"Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, > > > 1759 > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --Boundary_(ID_QF53SOqsCBYvYEj/KgNnMA)-- > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > > > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator > > "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759 > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message > > > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/consulting.html > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > -- Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-jobs Thu Aug 29 1:18:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C5737B400 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 01:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC34A43E65 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 01:18:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b133.otenet.gr [212.205.244.141]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g7T8IP6e017135; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:18:27 +0300 (EEST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7T8IPNK035789; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:18:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7T8IO6O035788; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:18:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:18:23 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Mike Meyer Cc: richard childers , freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Mike is no longer accepting html email Message-ID: <20020829081823.GA35725@hades.hell.gr> References: <200208272221.g7RMLJ5x021272@pop2-ext.prodigy.net> <3D6C1535.CB317D10@pacbell.net> <15725.38593.805600.192373@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15725.38593.805600.192373@guru.mired.org> X-PGP-Fingerprint: C1EB 0653 DB8B A557 3829 00F9 D60F 941A 3186 03B6 X-Phone: +30-944-116520 Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-08-28 22:36 +0000, Mike Meyer wrote: > In <3D6C1535.CB317D10@pacbell.net>, richard childers typed: > > I don't care if you're not accepting HTML mail. > > Keep it to yourself; tell your friends; but don't waste my time. > > Quit sending it to me, and my daemon quit telling you as about it. Can't the daemon be configured to exclude mailing lists from the addresses it replies to? I mean, if someone posts an HTML message to freebsd-jobs you should only reply to his personal address and not to the dozens of subscribers, right? - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-jobs Thu Aug 29 1:57:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D067137B400 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 01:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prometheus.home.laserfence.net (prometheus.laserfence.net [196.44.73.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B290543E6E for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 01:57:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@highveldcs.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (helo=phoenix.home.laserfence.net) by prometheus.home.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 17kL5g-00047c-00; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:55:48 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:55:40 +0200 (SAST) From: Willie Viljoen X-X-Sender: will@phoenix.home.laserfence.net To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Mike Meyer , richard childers , Subject: Re: Mike is no longer accepting html email In-Reply-To: <20020829081823.GA35725@hades.hell.gr> Message-ID: <20020829105334.A417-100000@phoenix.home.laserfence.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Giorgos, I think he'd be better off to get himself a daemon which excludes messages that have mailing list management information in them. I wouldn't know where to start looking though, PINE doesn't seem to mind HTML e-mail, (as long as it's compliant HTML, not the stuff M$ applications send), and if they aren't running PINE, IMHO, they have much more serious problems :-) (I am a PINE fan, so sue me) Will On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2002-08-28 22:36 +0000, Mike Meyer wrote: > > In <3D6C1535.CB317D10@pacbell.net>, richard childers typed: > > > I don't care if you're not accepting HTML mail. > > > Keep it to yourself; tell your friends; but don't waste my time. > > > > Quit sending it to me, and my daemon quit telling you as about it. > > Can't the daemon be configured to exclude mailing lists from the > addresses it replies to? I mean, if someone posts an HTML message to > freebsd-jobs you should only reply to his personal address and not to > the dozens of subscribers, right? > > - Giorgos > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message > > > -- Willie Viljoen Highveld Computing Solutions 214 Paul Kruger Avenue Universitas Bloemfontein 9321 South Africa +27 51 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36 +27 82 404 03 27 will@highveldcs.com To find out how we can help you with inventive solutions, visit http://www.highveldcs.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-jobs Thu Aug 29 9:36:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A1837B400 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BAC7A43E65 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:36:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1031070981.a63a00@mired.org) Received: (qmail 14787 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2002 16:36:21 -0000 Received: from localhost.mired.org (HELO guru.mired.org) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.mired.org with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 16:36:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15726.19844.593022.73485@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:36:20 -0500 To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: richard childers , freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Mike is no longer accepting html email In-Reply-To: <20020829081823.GA35725@hades.hell.gr> References: <200208272221.g7RMLJ5x021272@pop2-ext.prodigy.net> <3D6C1535.CB317D10@pacbell.net> <15725.38593.805600.192373@guru.mired.org> <20020829081823.GA35725@hades.hell.gr> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: Mike Meyer X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.59 Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In <20020829081823.GA35725@hades.hell.gr>, Giorgos Keramidas typed: > On 2002-08-28 22:36 +0000, Mike Meyer wrote: > > In <3D6C1535.CB317D10@pacbell.net>, richard childers typed: > > > I don't care if you're not accepting HTML mail. > > > Keep it to yourself; tell your friends; but don't waste my time. > > Quit sending it to me, and my daemon quit telling you as about it. > Can't the daemon be configured to exclude mailing lists from the > addresses it replies to? I mean, if someone posts an HTML message to > freebsd-jobs you should only reply to his personal address and not to > the dozens of subscribers, right? As I said before, it doesn't send to the list. Well, it shouldn't. If you got the daemon's response and didn't send the original message, then something is broken somewhere. Get me a complete copy of the daemon's message for diagnostics. As to ignoring mail to lists, I'm not sure that's the best idea. After all, the original author wanted the mail to go to everyone on the list, and that didn't happen. A warning seems appropriate. http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-jobs Thu Aug 29 11:42:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AA637B400 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2C743E4A for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:42:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: from localhost (2166 bytes) by malasada.lava.net; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:41:51 -1000 (HST) via sendmail [stdio] id for Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:41:51 -1000 From: Clifton Royston To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Mike Meyer , richard childers , freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Mike is no longer accepting html email Message-ID: <20020829084151.A23421@lava.net> Mail-Followup-To: Giorgos Keramidas , Mike Meyer , richard childers , freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.org References: <200208272221.g7RMLJ5x021272@pop2-ext.prodigy.net> <3D6C1535.CB317D10@pacbell.net> <15725.38593.805600.192373@guru.mired.org> <20020829081823.GA35725@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020829081823.GA35725@hades.hell.gr>; from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr on Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 11:18:23AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 11:18:23AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2002-08-28 22:36 +0000, Mike Meyer wrote: > > In <3D6C1535.CB317D10@pacbell.net>, richard childers typed: > > > I don't care if you're not accepting HTML mail. > > > Keep it to yourself; tell your friends; but don't waste my time. > > > > Quit sending it to me, and my daemon quit telling you as about it. > > Can't the daemon be configured to exclude mailing lists from the > addresses it replies to? I mean, if someone posts an HTML message to > freebsd-jobs you should only reply to his personal address and not to > the dozens of subscribers, right? It was and he did. I confirmed it never showed up in logs here. It was the miffed sender who decided he needed to "share his experience" with the mailing list. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- LavaNet Systems Architect -- cliftonr@lava.net "What do we need to make our world come alive? What does it take to make us sing? 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