From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 29 12:56:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CC537B401 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E282643E42 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:56:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from met@uberstats.com) Received: from ox.syr.edu (syru241-188.syr.edu [128.230.241.188]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08235 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 15:56:48 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Matthew Metnetsky To: FreeBSD Mobile Subject: On the Go with FreeBSD and KDE Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 03:56:47 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209290356.47851.met@uberstats.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As I'm a college student I'd like to be able to take my laptop with me fr= om=20 class to class. Take notes, play games, etc etc. However, I've got a fe= w=20 questions / problems. =20 1) Is there some sort of 'standby' mode like Windows has so that the com= puter=20 doesn't take as much power, and also is ON. I have at most 10 minutes=20 between classes and really don't want to turn off the laptop just to boot= it=20 up again 10 minutes later. And then repeat this 4 times a day. Any Idea= s? 2) My laptop runs KDE. Whenver I close the top while its running, and t= hen=20 reopen it, it goes on the fritz (i guess would be the best way to say it)= =2E =20 Basically, the middle visual gets cut in half and goes to the top and bot= tom=20 and the middle is just a solid weird color, and the mouse has no 'real'=20 action on anything. Is there anything I can do to stop this? One reason= for=20 this is...I have a cat, who when I'm around likes to disobey me. So it w= ould=20 be nice to be able to close the top when I leave the room for a few minut= es=20 and not worry about the cat poking, clawing, sneezing on the monitor. Wh= en=20 its closed, he seems to leave it alone (the monitor glow seems to attract= =20 him). Currently I move the laptop up high - but he's getting older and=20 smart...so this tactic won't last forever. Ideas?? As always, any help would be greatly appreciated. ~ Matthew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 29 12:57:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CFC37B401 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047F643E4A for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:57:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from met@uberstats.com) Received: from ox.syr.edu (syru241-188.syr.edu [128.230.241.188]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08388 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 15:57:32 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Matthew Metnetsky (by way of MET ) Subject: On the Go with FreeBSD and KDE Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 03:57:32 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 Organization: Uberstats To: FreeBSD Mobile MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209290357.32051.met@uberstats.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As I'm a college student I'd like to be able to take my laptop with me fr= om class to class. Take notes, play games, etc etc. However, I've got a fe= w questions / problems. 1) Is there some sort of 'standby' mode like Windows has so that the computer doesn't take as much power, and also is ON. I have at most 10 minutes between classes and really don't want to turn off the laptop jus= t to boot it up again 10 minutes later. And then repeat this 4 times a day. = Any Ideas? 2) My laptop runs KDE. Whenver I close the top while its running, and t= hen reopen it, it goes on the fritz (i guess would be the best way to say it)= =2E Basically, the middle visual gets cut in half and goes to the top and bot= tom and the middle is just a solid weird color, and the mouse has no 'real' action on anything. Is there anything I can do to stop this? One reason= for this is...I have a cat, who when I'm around likes to disobey me. So it w= ould be nice to be able to close the top when I leave the room for a few minut= es and not worry about the cat poking, clawing, sneezing on the monitor. Wh= en its closed, he seems to leave it alone (the monitor glow seems to attract him). Currently I move the laptop up high - but he's getting older and smart...so this tactic won't last forever. Ideas?? As always, any help would be greatly appreciated. ~ Matthew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 29 14: 9:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EC537B401 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 14:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CRWdog.demon.co.uk (slip-32-100-16-44.wa.us.prserv.net [32.100.16.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525C443E42 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 14:09:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spadger@best.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by CRWdog.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB1E591; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 14:09:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Matthew Metnetsky (by way of MET ) Cc: FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: On the Go with FreeBSD and KDE In-Reply-To: Message from Matthew Metnetsky (by way of MET ) of "Sun, 29 Sep 2002 03:57:32 CDT." <200209290357.32051.met@uberstats.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1161026854P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 14:09:31 -0700 From: Andy Sparrow Message-Id: <20020929210932.2BB1E591@CRWdog.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_1161026854P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > 1) Is there some sort of 'standby' mode like Windows has so that the > computer doesn't take as much power, and also is ON. I have at most 1= 0 > minutes between classes and really don't want to turn off the laptop j= ust to > boot it up again 10 minutes later. And then repeat this 4 times a day= =2E Any > Ideas? For -STABLE, man apm You need to distinguish between 'standby' 'suspend' and 'hibernate'. I = don't find 'standby' too useful, personally, but 'suspend' = (suspend-to-RAM) is great for me, as the resume time is less than a = second. Hibernate (generally 'suspend-to-DISK', then power off) doesn't work as = well (at least for me), and some hardware has issues when coming back. Make sure that the 'apm' device is compiled into the kernel, and ensure = that apm_enable=3D"YES" apmd_enable=3D"YES" is in /etc/rc.conf My laptops all suspend on lid closure or hitting the "soft" power = button. Couldn't live without it - and it's a major pain if it breaks = for some reason. They're not exactly ON, but they come back to exactly = where they were. > 2) My laptop runs KDE. Whenver I close the top while its running, and= then > reopen it, it goes on the fritz (i guess would be the best way to say i= t). > Basically, the middle visual gets cut in half and goes to the top and b= ottom > and the middle is just a solid weird color, and the mouse has no 'real'= > action on anything. Is there anything I can do to stop this? This could be something simple like the BIOS is generating a suspend = event on lid closure, but the resume isn't being dealt with (e.g. no = 'apmd'). However, there are also graphics cards and FreeBSD/XFree86 versions for = which the resume may be problematic. If you're running -CURRENT, you'll need to look into ACPI, which may = have issues on your hardware. Laptops can be strange beasts. You'll also need to post some information about your hardware and what = version of FreeBSD you're running. HTH. Cheers, AS --==_Exmh_1161026854P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD4DBQE9l2wLPHh895bDXeQRAikwAJ9bWrUGPwIJwzV7ZHBvQ84+i350lQCXXx+U yZaHaKhO7Cg/Wn0U7iGg1w== =tzJS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1161026854P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 29 15:36: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C228F37B401 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 15:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFFA43E42 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 15:36:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from met@uberstats.com) Received: from SURVIVAL (syru241-188.syr.edu [128.230.241.188]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA18919; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 18:35:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "MET" To: "'Andy Sparrow'" , "FreeBSD Mobil" Subject: RE: On the Go with FreeBSD and KDE Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 18:36:50 -0400 Message-ID: <002701c26808$b43a1e50$0200a8c0@SURVIVAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <20020929210932.2BB1E591@CRWdog.demon.co.uk> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am running -STABLE. So I made sure that apm is in the kernel (it is), and then I added the two 'enable' lines into my rc.conf file. I then checked my BIOS's settings, its set to be 'active' when the lid closes, thus the monitor is turned off and the rest stays fully powered. I then restarted and did some testing. Closing the monitor still seems to break X and it gets screwy. So then I tried pressing the 'Suspend' button on my laptop, that kind of worked. It powered down the system. I then powered it back up and it came right back to my screen as it was before I suspended it. However, everything was fuzzy and blurry, but at least all there. I then logged out and back in again and it looks all nice again. Then I decided to write this email. So here we are, and I'm still lost. Here's my hardware specs as someone (a smart someone) suggested they could be used to help solve the issue. Here's the basics: Dell 8200 - p4 2 gig - 15 inch sxga+ monitor - NVIDIA graphics card, 64MB DDR 4X AGP (device nv) - 512 DDR RAM ~ Matthew -----Original Message----- From: Andy Sparrow [mailto:spadger@best.com] Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 5:10 PM To: Matthew Metnetsky (by way of MET ) Cc: FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: On the Go with FreeBSD and KDE > 1) Is there some sort of 'standby' mode like Windows has so that the > computer doesn't take as much power, and also is ON. I have at most > 10 minutes between classes and really don't want to turn off the > laptop just to boot it up again 10 minutes later. And then repeat > this 4 times a day. Any Ideas? For -STABLE, man apm You need to distinguish between 'standby' 'suspend' and 'hibernate'. I don't find 'standby' too useful, personally, but 'suspend' (suspend-to-RAM) is great for me, as the resume time is less than a second. Hibernate (generally 'suspend-to-DISK', then power off) doesn't work as well (at least for me), and some hardware has issues when coming back. Make sure that the 'apm' device is compiled into the kernel, and ensure that apm_enable="YES" apmd_enable="YES" is in /etc/rc.conf My laptops all suspend on lid closure or hitting the "soft" power button. Couldn't live without it - and it's a major pain if it breaks for some reason. They're not exactly ON, but they come back to exactly where they were. > 2) My laptop runs KDE. Whenver I close the top while its running, > and then reopen it, it goes on the fritz (i guess would be the best > way to say it). Basically, the middle visual gets cut in half and goes > to the top and bottom and the middle is just a solid weird color, and > the mouse has no 'real' action on anything. Is there anything I can > do to stop this? This could be something simple like the BIOS is generating a suspend event on lid closure, but the resume isn't being dealt with (e.g. no 'apmd'). However, there are also graphics cards and FreeBSD/XFree86 versions for which the resume may be problematic. If you're running -CURRENT, you'll need to look into ACPI, which may have issues on your hardware. Laptops can be strange beasts. You'll also need to post some information about your hardware and what version of FreeBSD you're running. HTH. Cheers, AS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 29 15:49:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12A337B401 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 15:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palomar.yi.org (dsl-64-34-174-133.telocity.com [64.34.174.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A5F43E6A for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 15:49:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erich@ucsd.edu) Received: from ucsd.edu (soledad [192.168.123.110]) by palomar.yi.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8TMjCGm064331; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 15:45:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erich@ucsd.edu) Message-ID: <3D97834C.5030503@ucsd.edu> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 15:48:44 -0700 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Eric_Hedstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1a) Gecko/20020617 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MET Cc: FreeBSD Mobil Subject: Re: On the Go with FreeBSD and KDE References: <002701c26808$b43a1e50$0200a8c0@SURVIVAL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Matthew, I don't know about your laptop specifically, but with many of them it works a lot better to switch to a text console (i.e. Ctrl-Alt-F1) before suspending, and then switch back after resuming. Eric MET wrote: > I am running -STABLE. > > So I made sure that apm is in the kernel (it is), and then I added the > two 'enable' lines into my rc.conf file. I then checked my BIOS's > settings, its set to be 'active' when the lid closes, thus the monitor > is turned off and the rest stays fully powered. I then restarted and > did some testing. Closing the monitor still seems to break X and it > gets screwy. So then I tried pressing the 'Suspend' button on my > laptop, that kind of worked. It powered down the system. I then > powered it back up and it came right back to my screen as it was before > I suspended it. However, everything was fuzzy and blurry, but at least > all there. I then logged out and back in again and it looks all nice > again. Then I decided to write this email. So here we are, and I'm > still lost. Here's my hardware specs as someone (a smart someone) > suggested they could be used to help solve the issue. > > Here's the basics: Dell 8200 > - p4 2 gig > - 15 inch sxga+ monitor > - NVIDIA graphics card, 64MB DDR 4X AGP (device nv) > - 512 DDR RAM > > ~ Matthew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Sparrow [mailto:spadger@best.com] > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 5:10 PM > To: Matthew Metnetsky (by way of MET ) > Cc: FreeBSD Mobile > Subject: Re: On the Go with FreeBSD and KDE > > > > >>1) Is there some sort of 'standby' mode like Windows has so that the > > >>computer doesn't take as much power, and also is ON. I have at most >>10 minutes between classes and really don't want to turn off the >>laptop just to boot it up again 10 minutes later. And then repeat >>this 4 times a day. Any Ideas? > > > For -STABLE, > > man apm > > You need to distinguish between 'standby' 'suspend' and 'hibernate'. I > don't find 'standby' too useful, personally, but 'suspend' > (suspend-to-RAM) is great for me, as the resume time is less than a > second. > > Hibernate (generally 'suspend-to-DISK', then power off) doesn't work as > well (at least for me), and some hardware has issues when coming back. > > Make sure that the 'apm' device is compiled into the kernel, and ensure > that > > apm_enable="YES" > apmd_enable="YES" > > is in /etc/rc.conf > > My laptops all suspend on lid closure or hitting the "soft" power > button. Couldn't live without it - and it's a major pain if it breaks > for some reason. They're not exactly ON, but they come back to exactly > where they were. > > >>2) My laptop runs KDE. Whenver I close the top while its running, >>and then reopen it, it goes on the fritz (i guess would be the best >>way to say it). Basically, the middle visual gets cut in half and goes > > >>to the top and bottom and the middle is just a solid weird color, and >>the mouse has no 'real' action on anything. Is there anything I can >>do to stop this? > > > This could be something simple like the BIOS is generating a suspend > event on lid closure, but the resume isn't being dealt with (e.g. no > 'apmd'). > > However, there are also graphics cards and FreeBSD/XFree86 versions for > which the resume may be problematic. > > If you're running -CURRENT, you'll need to look into ACPI, which may > have issues on your hardware. Laptops can be strange beasts. > > You'll also need to post some information about your hardware and what > version of FreeBSD you're running. > > HTH. > > Cheers, > > AS > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 29 16:30:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621C637B401 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CRWdog.demon.co.uk (slip-32-100-16-44.wa.us.prserv.net [32.100.16.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E464B43E65 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:30:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spadger@best.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by CRWdog.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD4B591; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:30:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "MET" Cc: "'Andy Sparrow'" , "FreeBSD Mobil" Subject: Re: On the Go with FreeBSD and KDE In-Reply-To: Message from "MET" of "Sun, 29 Sep 2002 18:36:50 EDT." <002701c26808$b43a1e50$0200a8c0@SURVIVAL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1171677608P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:30:28 -0700 From: Andy Sparrow Message-Id: <20020929233028.5AD4B591@CRWdog.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_1171677608P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I am running -STABLE. > > So I made sure that apm is in the kernel (it is), and then I added the > two 'enable' lines into my rc.conf file. I then checked my BIOS's > settings, its set to be 'active' when the lid closes, thus the monitor > is turned off and the rest stays fully powered. I then restarted and > did some testing. Closing the monitor still seems to break X and it > gets screwy. Try switching to a text vty with Ctrl-Alt-Fn and then back to X. Does this clear the problem? If not, there's not a lot you can do. If it does, maybe you could frob a couple of vidcontrol commands to switch away/back to X on a resume rc.resume. There's been some discussion regarding this issue with the NVidia card. Wait for their (closed-source, binary-only) FreeBSD drivers, or don't try to run Open Source software on hardware that the vendors won't release adequate documentation for. > So then I tried pressing the 'Suspend' button on my > laptop, that kind of worked. It powered down the system. I then > powered it back up and it came right back to my screen as it was before > I suspended it. However, everything was fuzzy and blurry, but at least > all there. I then logged out and back in again and it looks all nice > again. This is a server reset, I would guess. You'll probably get much the same effect from switching vty's. > Then I decided to write this email. So here we are, and I'm > still lost. Here's my hardware specs as someone (a smart someone) > suggested they could be used to help solve the issue. I think that your main problem is the NVidia 'nv' driver, as opposed to anything to do with FreeBSD (the same problem exists in Linux). There's some other people with this card around (on this list, even), but as I've deliberately never bought an Inspiron for precisely this reason (Dell seem to have dropped the ATI option that they used to have as an alternative), I can't really help much further. HTH. Regards, AS --==_Exmh_1171677608P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQE9l40UPHh895bDXeQRAir5AJ4hsN5VRW9oMokJULLOMIu+Euv4dQCeIgxg 8sfoaHYhbsh0/fXZXAZ3d6g= =FAgK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1171677608P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 29 16:35: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2025637B401 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CRWdog.demon.co.uk (slip-32-100-16-44.wa.us.prserv.net [32.100.16.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B77A43E3B for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:35:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spadger@best.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by CRWdog.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED71C591; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:35:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Andy Sparrow Cc: "MET" , "FreeBSD Mobil" Subject: Re: On the Go with FreeBSD and KDE In-Reply-To: Message from Andy Sparrow of "Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:30:28 PDT." <20020929233028.5AD4B591@CRWdog.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1171905594P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:35:01 -0700 From: Andy Sparrow Message-Id: <20020929233501.ED71C591@CRWdog.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_1171905594P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Follow-up to myself for the benefit of the archives: > There's been some discussion regarding this issue with the NVidia card. On the Xpert mailing list (xpert@xfree86.org) > Wait for their (closed-source, binary-only) FreeBSD drivers, or don't > try to run Open Source software on hardware that the vendors won't > release adequate documentation for. As this problem is apparently not seen with the 'nvidia' binary-only driver. AS --==_Exmh_1171905594P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQE9l44lPHh895bDXeQRAsWvAJ9cSWdU7a2F4IQ0yRLMoQhGDi7n3ACfY9Le Xi0diYFcAiLJLlsZBFnha8U= =0EUE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1171905594P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 29 17:12: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7494837B401 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 17:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DC643E3B for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 17:12:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7DDCF72FCC; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 17:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF2E72FC5 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 17:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 17:08:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Keyspan USB serial adaptors In-Reply-To: <20020927193543.GA11752@pir.net> Message-ID: <20020929170453.J23901-100000@carver.gumbysoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > I'm trying to use a keyspan USA-19QW usb to serial adaptor with a > laptop that has no serial ports. I had some memory that at least one > of the keyspan adaptors was supported and indeed several are listed in > usbdevs. This one isn't, so I've added it locally; > > *** usbdevs.orig Fri Sep 27 15:29:19 2002 > --- usbdevs Fri Sep 27 15:01:22 2002 > *************** > *** 710,715 **** > --- 710,716 ---- > product KEYSPAN USA18X 0x0105 USA-18X serial adapter > product KEYSPAN USA19W 0x0106 USA-19W serial adapter > product KEYSPAN USA49W 0x0109 USA-49W serial adapter > + product KEYSPAN USA19QW 0x0118 USA-19QW serial adapter > > /* Kingston products */ > product KINGSTON KNU101TX 0x000a KNU101TX USB Ethernet > > > Not having messed with ucom and related things before I'm looking for > pointers to what to do further for support (I'm guessing it's a > similar chipset to some of the other keyspan devices that may already > be supported) ... these usbdevs device listings don't actually seem > to be used anywhere. The Keyspan adapters need to have firmware loaded on them before they become functional. If you poke around for the Entrega support (Keyspans are relabelled Entregas, essentially) you can find the necessary firmware downloader. Doug Ambrisko had some tools to that effect posted on his website. I have a USA19W that works fine in BSD. Note that Keyspan themselves has linux drivers with the firmware posted, and Entrega went under a few years ago. Not sure why you'd want a QW, it only does 38400 or 57600 baud. The 19W does 115200 and faster :) -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 29 17:18:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED10C37B404 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 17:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E7843E3B for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 17:18:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 17voGV-0004U8-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 20:18:23 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 20:18:23 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Keyspan USB serial adaptors Message-ID: <20020930001822.GD8085@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20020927193543.GA11752@pir.net> <20020929170453.J23901-100000@carver.gumbysoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020929170453.J23901-100000@carver.gumbysoft.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug White probably said: > The Keyspan adapters need to have firmware loaded on them before they > become functional. Blah. > If you poke around for the Entrega support (Keyspans are relabelled > Entregas, essentially) you can find the necessary firmware > downloader. Doug Ambrisko had some tools to that effect posted on > his website. I have a USA19W that works fine in BSD. Note that > Keyspan themselves has linux drivers with the firmware posted, and > Entrega went under a few years ago. I've messed with Doug's tools with a different serial block some time ago and never got it working too well (it would crash the machine). Are you using the firmware from the linux drivers ? > Not sure why you'd want a QW, it only does 38400 or 57600 baud. The > 19W does 115200 and faster :) It's not mine, trying to get it working for a cow-orker. The label says 19QW, the picture of the high speed adaptor on keyspan's web page is identical and the owner says it does 115200 and faster under Windows. P. -- pir pir-sig@pir.net pir-sig@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 30 0:57:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA3B37B401 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 00:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postman.ripe.net (postman.ripe.net [193.0.0.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F80B43E4A for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 00:57:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marks@ripe.net) Received: (qmail 20758 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2002 07:56:21 -0000 Received: from birch.ripe.net (193.0.1.96) by postman.ripe.net with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 07:56:21 -0000 Received: from laptop.6bone.nl (cow.ripe.net [193.0.1.239]) by birch.ripe.net (8.12.5/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8U7sn95023898; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:54:49 +0200 Received: (nullmailer pid 693 invoked by uid 1000); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 06:51:51 -0000 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 08:51:50 +0200 From: Mark Santcroos To: MET Cc: FreeBSD Mobil Subject: Re: On the Go with FreeBSD and KDE Message-ID: <20020930065150.GA555@laptop.6bone.nl> References: <20020929210932.2BB1E591@CRWdog.demon.co.uk> <002701c26808$b43a1e50$0200a8c0@SURVIVAL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002701c26808$b43a1e50$0200a8c0@SURVIVAL> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Handles: MS6-6BONE, MS18417-RIPE X-RIPE-Spam-Status: NONE ; -1085 X-RIPE-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 06:36:50PM -0400, MET wrote: > Here's the basics: Dell 8200 This is a new laptop, isn't it? Changes are that this is a ACPI only laptop, so no APM. Mark -- Mark Santcroos RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.ripe.net/home/mark/ New Projects Group/TTM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 30 7: 2:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D6E37B401 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mash.minjust.gov.ua (mash.minjust.gov.ua [195.5.27.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F45843E77 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:02:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jc@minjust.gov.ua) Received: from yard.minjust.gov.ua ([10.1.9.27]) by mash.minjust.gov.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17w17m-000Ojz-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:02:14 +0300 Received: from jc by yard.minjust.gov.ua with local (Exim 4.10) id 17w17k-0003LN-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:02:12 +0300 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:02:12 +0300 From: Igor Karpov To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Toshiba Tecra 8000 internal modem trouble. Message-ID: <20020930140211.GR11209@yard.minjust.gov.ua> Reply-To: postmaster@minjust.gov.ua Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *17w17m-000Ojz-00*ikBCGpbxr0g* Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I'm trying to make FreeBSD 4.6.2 to use internal modem on Toshiba Tecra 8000 - with no success yet. I'm not sure that this modem is supported with ltmdm-1.4 (from ports). However, this modem is working under W2K. BIOS settings: I/O ports Serial = COM1 (3F8H/IRQ4) Built-it Modem = COM2 (2F8H/IRQ3) Here's what I can get about it from W2K: Toshiba Internal V.90 Modem Location: on Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to ISA bridge Driver: ltmdmntt.sys (Provider: LT) modem.sys Resources settings: Input/Output Range: 02F8-02FF 1C80-1CFF 1C00-1C7F Interrupt Request: 03 Hardware ID: ACPI\TOS7011 I've also noticed that W2K sees it like COM3 in its terminology; don't know if it does mean anything. When I'm trying to connect to the modem under FreeBSD cu -l /dev/cual0 it says "Device not configured" But it exists: ll /dev/cual* crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 228, 128 Sep 29 16:17 /dev/cual0 crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 228, 128 Sep 28 09:36 /dev/cual1 crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 228, 192 Sep 29 16:17 /dev/cuall0 crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 228, 192 Sep 28 09:36 /dev/cuall1 Here all the information regarding this: dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.6.2-RELEASE #10: Sat Sep 28 10:02:15 EEST 2002 root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/HOME Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (366.60-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x66a Stepping = 10 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 134152192 (131008K bytes) avail memory = 126509056 (123544K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03f9000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc03f909c. VESA: v2.0, 2496k memory, flags:0x0, mode table:0xc03812e2 (1000022) VESA: MagicGraph 256 AV 44K PRELIMINARY Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 6 entries at 0xc00f0f80 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at 4.0 irq 11 isab0: at device 5.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xfe60-0xfe6f at device 5.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xffe0-0xffff irq 11 at device 5.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered chip1: port 0xfe70-0xfe7f at device 5.3 on pci0 chip2: port 0xff80-0xff9f irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0 pcic0: irq 11 at device 11.0 on pci0 pcic0: PCI Memory allocated: 0x44000000 pccard0: on pcic0 pcic1: irq 11 at device 11.1 on pci0 pcic1: PCI Memory allocated: 0x44001000 pccard1: on pcic1 eisa0: on motherboard eisa0: unknown card @@@0000 (0x00000000) at slot 1 orm0: