From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 17 11: 3:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587FB37B401 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 11:03:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from wellington.cnchost.com (wellington.concentric.net [207.155.252.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4B043E3B for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 11:03:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bakul@bitblocks.com) Received: from bitblocks.com (adsl-209-204-185-216.sonic.net [209.204.185.216]) by wellington.cnchost.com id OAA18404; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 14:03:11 -0500 (EST) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.15] Message-ID: <200211171903.OAA18404@wellington.cnchost.com> To: Darryl Okahata Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: using a laptop as a main machine In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:00:49 PST." <200211142200.OAA11889@mina.soco.agilent.com> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 11:03:11 -0800 From: Bakul Shah Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > $140 and $280 a year for me). Now multiply that 3 to 5 > > times! > > This assumes that you have the money to buy 3 to 5 new (or even > used) laptops. Not cheap (unless you're rich and have money to burn ;-). I just wanted to point out the energy costs of running a machine all the time -- something to consider when replacing a machine. Many of us have multiple machines and the cumulative energy cost running them 24 hours a day can buy a new machine! > > hard to replace parts etc. > > Huh??? Laptops have parts that are *MUCH* harder to replace. If > you have a desktop that's made from commodity parts, it's pretty easy to > fix. With a laptop, you either get to pay lots of money (unless you > paid a lot for a very long warranty, and, even then, repair parts may no > longer be available), or you're screwed (you get to rummage on eBay for > parts). Sorry, I meant to write "it is a pain to replace parts". It's a pain because you have to move things around, untangle and remove its many connections, open the box, etc. The few parts I typically want to replace or add (memory, disk, external devices) are easier in many laptops (but not all). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 17 11:10:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C59A37B401 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 11:10:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.65.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1961F43E77 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 11:10:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from thoenig@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 4162 invoked by uid 0); 17 Nov 2002 19:10:28 -0000 Received: from pd9e98c9f.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO titanium) (217.233.140.159) by mail.gmx.net (mp001-rz3) with SMTP; 17 Nov 2002 19:10:28 -0000 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Timo_H=F6nig?= To: Subject: Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 20:10:23 +0100 Message-ID: <001301c28e6c$fdee9a00$5e00a8c0@titanium> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org auth 74a0c5f8 unsubscribe freebsd-mobile thoenig@gmx.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 18 11:45:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545C737B401 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:45:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.multi-ad.com (mail1.multi-ad.com [207.56.32.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C9D43E3B for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:45:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tmcmichael@multiad.com) Received: from trmbsd.multiad.com ([207.56.32.243]) by mail1.multi-ad.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5SEVE00.4I4 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:45:14 -0600 Subject: USB support From: "Ty McMichael" Reply-To: tmcmichael@multiad.com To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 18 Nov 2002 13:37:20 -0600 Message-Id: <1037648240.77632.14.camel@trmbsd.multiad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am currently running 4.7 on my Dell Latitude. I have an IPAQ (3635) PDA running Familiar Linux and OPIE (Great stuff!) with a USB cradle. Currently, to access my device, I have to use a serial cable purchased separately. I would love to use my cradle, of course, but I cannot find the necessary USB support in 4.7. Can somebody tell me if it does exits, or if there are plans to support this particular device in 5.0? I apologize if this question in not appropriate to this particular list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 18 16:36:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC2437B401 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:36:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5127243E97 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:36:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from edge.foundation.invalid (ool-182f90f3.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.144.243]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.05 (built Nov 6 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H5S007W8S8MAS@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for mobile@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 19:34:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost.foundation.invalid [127.0.0.1]) by edge.foundation.invalid (8.12.6/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAJ0Xx0G098861 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 19:34:01 -0500 (EST envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 19:33:59 -0500 (EST) From: Andriy Gapon Subject: IPX and hostap mode X-X-Sender: avg@edge.foundation.invalid To: mobile@freebsd.org Message-id: <20021118193322.X98860-100000@edge.foundation.invalid> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I seem to have a problem with IPX going over a wireless link between FreeBSD in hostap mode and a windows machine. To be more precise, I see packets going to and from the FreeBSD machine, but they don't seem to arrive to the windows machine. This is without WEP enabled. Does anybody have similiar configuration working ? Did you have to do anything special for it ? -- Andriy Gapon * "The worst part of communication is the illusion that it has actually occurred". M. Jenkins. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 18 17:24:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8242E37B401 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 17:24:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhub2.liv.ac.uk (mailhub2.liv.ac.uk [138.253.100.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCDF43E75 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 17:24:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pp0u20d9@liverpool.ac.uk) Received: from webmail1.liv.ac.uk ([138.253.100.133]) by mailhub2.liv.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18Dx7z-0007hx-00; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:24:35 +0000 Received: by webmail1.liv.ac.uk (8.11.6+Sun/8.10.2/ajt05Jan2002) id gAJ1OYV03413; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:24:34 GMT Message-Id: <200211190124.gAJ1OYV03413@webmail1.liv.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:24:34 -0000 Subject: User-Agent: IMHO/0.98.2 (Webmail for Roxen) X-Originating-IP: [62.188.28.165] Cc: howells@kde.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Chris Howells To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, As soon as I attempt to access the (hardware) PCMCIA modem on my Dell Inspiron 2650 (1.9GHz, 128MB RAM) laptop the kernel hangs and I have to pull the plug since they keyboard and mouse stop working: ppp set device /dev/cuaa0 speed 115200 term This is with 4.7-RELEASE In my /etc/rc.conf I have a pccard_enable="YES". On bootup, I see the following: sio4 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 19 flags 0x40000 slot 0 on pccard0 sio4: type 16550A sio4: unable to activate interrupt in fast mode - using normal mode In dmesg, I see the following: pcic0: irq 10 at device 4.0 on pci2 pcic0: PCI Memory allocated: 0x88000000 pcic0: Warning: O2micro OZ68xx chips may not work pccard0: on pcic0 A full dmesg is attached. Any ideas what the problem is or how to fix it? The "Warning" in dmesg doesn't look too promising..... Thanks, -- Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris@chrishowells.co.uk, howells@kde.org Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP key: http://chrishowells.co.uk/pgp.txt KDE: http://www.koffice.org, http://edu.kde.org, http://usability.kde.org dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE #0: Wed Oct 9 15:08:34 GMT 2002 root@builder.freebsdmall.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium 4 (1894.42-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf24 Stepping = 4 Features=0x3febf9ff,ACC> real memory = 133693440 (130560K bytes) FreeBSD Kernel Configuration Utility - Version 1.2 Type "help" for help or "visual" to go to the visual configuration interface (requires MGA/VGA display or serial terminal capable of displaying ANSI graphics). config> eia 0\^H \^H\^H \^H\^H \^Hsa 0 config> quit avail memory = 124854272 (121928K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc050f000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 8 entries at 0xc00fdf40 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 10 uhci0: port 0x1800-0x181f irq 10 at device 29.0 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x1820-0x183f irq 5 at device 29.1 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub2: Texas Instruments TUSB2046 hub, class 9/0, rev 1.10/1.25, addr 2 uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered ums0: Logitech USB Mouse, rev 1.10/4.10, addr 3, iclass 3/1 ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. ulpt0: Hewlett-Packard Deskjet 3820, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 4, iclass 7/1 ugen0: KC Technology, Inc. IRExpress USB IrDA Controller, rev 1.10/1.10, addr 5 pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x3000-0x307f mem 0xe8000000-0xe800007f irq 10 at device 1.0 on pci2 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:08:74:3b:c6:bb miibus0: on xl0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pcic0: irq 10 at device 4.0 on pci2 pcic0: PCI Memory allocated: 0x88000000 pcic0: Warning: O2micro OZ68xx chips may not work pccard0: on pcic0 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1840-0x184f,0-0x3,0-0x7,0-0x3,0-0x7 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2483) at 31.3 irq 10 pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2485) at 31.5 irq 10 pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2486) at 31.6 irq 10 orm0: