From owner-freebsd-scsi Sun Apr 28 9:49:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.fictitious.org (workhorse.fictitious.org [209.66.129.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F1537B41D; Sun, 28 Apr 2002 09:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from workhorse.fictitious.org (localhost.fictitious.org [127.0.0.1]) by workhorse.fictitious.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA94567; Sun, 28 Apr 2002 12:48:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from curtis@workhorse.fictitious.org) Message-Id: <200204281648.MAA94567@workhorse.fictitious.org> To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: curtis@fictitious.org Reply-To: curtis@fictitious.org Subject: Olympus USB camera success with some kernel mods Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 12:48:51 -0400 From: Curtis Villamizar Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FYI - this is just an informational message. Possible code to commit in scsi_da.c. See below. I just got an Olympus C700 working with the USB. I can mount the flash and copy the files off it. I haven't tried gphoto or anything else to control the camera. The normal way to use it is just copy off the *.jpg files that would appear in the dcim/100olymp/ directory (you'd see files there if I hadn't just copied them and erased them from this flash). [curtis@laptoy770 1] # mount -o ro -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt [curtis@laptoy770 2] # ls -ltR /mnt total 8 drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8192 Apr 27 20:53 dcim/ /mnt/dcim: total 8 drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8192 Apr 27 20:53 100olymp/ /mnt/dcim/100olymp: [curtis@laptoy770 3] # ls -lR /mnt total 8 drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8192 Apr 27 20:53 dcim/ /mnt/dcim: total 8 drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8192 Apr 27 20:53 100olymp/ /mnt/dcim/100olymp: [curtis@laptoy770 4] # umount /mnt To make this work, the kernel needs: options MSDOSFS # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da An edit has to be made to /sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c { /* * Olympus Cameras quirks */ {T_DIRECT, SIP_MEDIA_REMOVABLE, "OLYMPUS*", "C-700*", "*"}, /*quirks*/ DA_Q_NO_6_BYTE } I also added the following after the "match = cam_quirkmatch(" statement providing a confirmation in dmesg output after reboot. printf("scsi quirks: %s - type %d med %s " "vend \"%s\" prod \"%s\" ver \"%s\"\n", match ? "match" : "none", SID_TYPE((&cgd->inq_data)), SID_IS_REMOVABLE((&cgd->inq_data)) ? "remov" : "fixed", cgd->inq_data.vendor, cgd->inq_data.product, cgd->inq_data.revision); The printf is useful if for some reason you aren't getting the string match right (if using a similar camera or USB/SCSI device). That was all it took. Manually run the following before the mount: usbdevs - make sure the camera is powered on and shows up camcontrol rescan 0 - detect the scsi device (I did this on my laptop but on a machine with scsi buses you'd get a higher number. camcontrol tur da0 - check for unit ready. If the unit doesn't indicate ready, chances are the DA_Q_NO_6_BYTE quirk is not in effect. Recheck the kernel changes. This might work with other Olympus USB only cameras. Probably would. Curtis ps - I haven't confirmed whether the camera is usable under an MS OS and I have no intention to do so. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Sun Apr 28 12:19: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from firebat.bushong.net (12-235-37-126.client.attbi.com [12.235.37.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D674637B404 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2002 12:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbushong@localhost) by firebat.bushong.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g3SJHGn59597 for freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Apr 2002 12:17:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dbushong) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 12:17:16 -0700 From: David Bushong To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Olympus USB camera success with some kernel mods Message-ID: <20020428191716.GL26748@bushong.net> References: <200204281648.MAA94567@workhorse.fictitious.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200204281648.MAA94567@workhorse.fictitious.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Floating-Sheep-Port: 0xbaa Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For reference, the Olympus "Camedia" D-100 works great without any mods. (I mean you need all the right stuff in your kernel config, but no patching needed). --David Bushong On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 12:48:51PM -0400, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > > FYI - this is just an informational message. Possible code to commit > in scsi_da.c. See below. > > I just got an Olympus C700 working with the USB. I can mount the > flash and copy the files off it. I haven't tried gphoto or anything > else to control the camera. > > The normal way to use it is just copy off the *.jpg files that would > appear in the dcim/100olymp/ directory (you'd see files there if I > hadn't just copied them and erased them from this flash). > > [curtis@laptoy770 1] # mount -o ro -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt > [curtis@laptoy770 2] # ls -ltR /mnt > total 8 > drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8192 Apr 27 20:53 dcim/ > > /mnt/dcim: > total 8 > drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8192 Apr 27 20:53 100olymp/ > > /mnt/dcim/100olymp: > [curtis@laptoy770 3] # ls -lR /mnt > total 8 > drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8192 Apr 27 20:53 dcim/ > > /mnt/dcim: > total 8 > drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8192 Apr 27 20:53 100olymp/ > > /mnt/dcim/100olymp: > [curtis@laptoy770 4] # umount /mnt > > To make this work, the kernel needs: > > options MSDOSFS > > # SCSI peripherals > device scbus # SCSI bus (required) > device da # Direct Access (disks) > device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) > > # USB support > device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface > device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface > device usb # USB Bus (required) > device ugen # Generic > device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da > > An edit has to be made to /sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c > > { > /* > * Olympus Cameras quirks > */ > {T_DIRECT, SIP_MEDIA_REMOVABLE, > "OLYMPUS*", "C-700*", "*"}, > /*quirks*/ DA_Q_NO_6_BYTE > } > > I also added the following after the "match = cam_quirkmatch(" > statement providing a confirmation in dmesg output after reboot. > > printf("scsi quirks: %s - type %d med %s " > "vend \"%s\" prod \"%s\" ver \"%s\"\n", > match ? "match" : "none", > SID_TYPE((&cgd->inq_data)), > SID_IS_REMOVABLE((&cgd->inq_data)) ? "remov" : "fixed", > cgd->inq_data.vendor, cgd->inq_data.product, > cgd->inq_data.revision); > > The printf is useful if for some reason you aren't getting the string > match right (if using a similar camera or USB/SCSI device). > > That was all it took. Manually run the following before the mount: > > usbdevs - make sure the camera is powered on and shows up > > camcontrol rescan 0 - detect the scsi device (I did this on my > laptop but on a machine with scsi buses you'd get a higher number. > > camcontrol tur da0 - check for unit ready. > > If the unit doesn't indicate ready, chances are the DA_Q_NO_6_BYTE > quirk is not in effect. Recheck the kernel changes. > > This might work with other Olympus USB only cameras. Probably would. > > Curtis > > ps - I haven't confirmed whether the camera is usable under an MS OS > and I have no intention to do so. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Tue Apr 30 12:18:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2922337B419 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (relay2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.1]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3-2) with ESMTP id g3UJIB201915 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:18:12 +0200 (MEST) Received: from hyperion.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (hyperion.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.194.33]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3/7) with ESMTP id g3UJIBd01900 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:18:11 +0200 (MEST) Received: from margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (margaux.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.194.72]) by hyperion.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA07289 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:18:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from stolz@localhost) by margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1-gb-2) id VAA00449 for scsi@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:18:04 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:18:03 +0200 From: Volker Stolz To: scsi@freebsd.org Subject: umass/quirks 6 vs. 10 byte commands: RiteLink Message-ID: <20020430211803.A444@margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Some time ago I found out that I'd either need a quirk or some rather large usb-patchset (which turned out not to work) to talk to this: umass0: vendor 0x0c76 product 0x0003, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 650KB/s transfers da0: 124MB (254720 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 124C) Now, in recent -stable, things seem to have improved. Upon mounting a filesystem I get the following, but nothing else. (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(6)/WRITE(6) failed, minimum_cmd_size is increased to 10. Which bits are to be fiddled with now? The message looks like there should be some magic going on behind the scenes... If a quirk is still required, I'd file a PR with a patch. -- Stell Dir vor es ist Krieg und keiner sieht hin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Tue Apr 30 12:20:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EFD37B405 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g3UJJsp91928; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:19:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:19:54 -0600 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Volker Stolz Cc: scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: umass/quirks 6 vs. 10 byte commands: RiteLink Message-ID: <20020430131953.A91916@panzer.kdm.org> References: <20020430211803.A444@margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020430211803.A444@margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>; from stolz@hyperion.informatik.rwth-aachen.de on Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 09:18:03PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 21:18:03 +0200, Volker Stolz wrote: > Some time ago I found out that I'd either need a quirk or > some rather large usb-patchset (which turned out not to work) to > talk to this: > > umass0: vendor 0x0c76 product 0x0003, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 650KB/s transfers > da0: 124MB (254720 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 124C) > > Now, in recent -stable, things seem to have improved. Upon mounting > a filesystem I get the following, but nothing else. > > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(6)/WRITE(6) failed, minimum_cmd_size is increased to 10. > > Which bits are to be fiddled with now? The message looks like there > should be some magic going on behind the scenes... > > If a quirk is still required, I'd file a PR with a patch. There is nothing wrong, the above is just an informative message. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri May 3 5:20:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from marvin.trident-uk.co.uk (mail.trident-uk.co.uk [195.166.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED8737B417 for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 05:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by marvin.trident-uk.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g43C38E08311 for freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org; Fri, 3 May 2002 13:03:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from trident-uk.co.uk (root@mufuf.trident-uk.co.uk [194.207.93.63]) by marvin.trident-uk.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1av) with ESMTP id g43C37u08302 for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 13:03:07 +0100 (BST) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by trident-uk.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g43CSMm19310 for freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org; Fri, 3 May 2002 13:28:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie) Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 13:28:22 +0100 From: Jamie Heckford To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Compaq Smart Array 5i install problems on FreeBSD 4.5 Message-ID: <20020503132822.A19296@mufuf.trident-uk.co.uk> Reply-To: jamie@tridentmicrosystems.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, We recently purchased a dual 1.4Ghz Compaq Prolient DL360 which we intend to use as a samba server. The problem is, FreeBSD 4.5 doesn't seem to detect the Smart Array 5i controller when booting the installation CD. I've googled looking for answers, but can't seem to find any :( Could someone let me know where im going wrong please? Thanks, -- Jamie Heckford Network Manager Trident Microsystems Ltd Tel: 01737 780790 Fax: 01737 771908 http://www.tridentmicrosystems.co.uk *********** This e-mail message contains confidential information for the above addressee only. Any opinion or views contained in this e-mail message are those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of the Company. Unless otherwise stated this e-mail message is not intended to be contractually binding. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free and the sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message. Trident Microsystems Ltd Group of Companies Perrywood Business Park, Honeycrock Lane, Salfords, Redhill, Surrey, RH1 5JQ Tel: (44) (0) 1737 780790 Fax: (44) (0) 1737 771908 Registered office: Abacus House, Bone Lane, Newbury, Berkshire, RG14 5SF To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri May 3 5:32:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D25437B41F for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 05:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g43CWELS059697; Fri, 3 May 2002 14:32:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g43CWEcx059696; Fri, 3 May 2002 14:32:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 14:32:14 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jamie Heckford Cc: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compaq Smart Array 5i install problems on FreeBSD 4.5 Message-ID: <20020503143214.A59678@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020503132822.A19296@mufuf.trident-uk.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020503132822.A19296@mufuf.trident-uk.co.uk>; from jamie@tridentmicrosystems.co.uk on Fri, May 03, 2002 at 01:28:22PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 01:28:22PM +0100, Jamie Heckford wrote: 4.5R installkernel was built without the ciss driver for the SA so you cannot install on a SA with 4.5R. Get a 4.5-stable snapshot from snapshots.jp.freebsd.org and you are all set. Wilko > Hi, > > We recently purchased a dual 1.4Ghz Compaq Prolient DL360 which we intend > to use as a samba server. > > The problem is, FreeBSD 4.5 doesn't seem to detect the Smart Array 5i > controller when booting the installation CD. > > I've googled looking for answers, but can't seem to find any :( > > Could someone let me know where im going wrong please? > > Thanks, > > -- > Jamie Heckford > Network Manager > Trident Microsystems Ltd > Tel: 01737 780790 Fax: 01737 771908 > http://www.tridentmicrosystems.co.uk > > *********** > > This e-mail message contains confidential information for > the above addressee only. Any opinion or views contained > in this e-mail message are those of the sender and do not > necessarily represent those of the Company. Unless otherwise > stated this e-mail message is not intended to be contractually > binding. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be > secure or error-free and the sender therefore does not accept > liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this > message. > > Trident Microsystems Ltd Group of Companies > Perrywood Business Park, Honeycrock Lane, Salfords, Redhill, > Surrey, RH1 5JQ > > Tel: (44) (0) 1737 780790 Fax: (44) (0) 1737 771908 > > Registered office: Abacus House, Bone Lane, Newbury, > Berkshire, RG14 5SF > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri May 3 23:30: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (dhcp45-25.dis.org [216.240.45.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A73A37B404 for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 23:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g446SSh00844; Fri, 3 May 2002 23:28:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200205040628.g446SSh00844@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Borja Marcos Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell PERC3/DC and FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:17:05 +0200." <200204111117.g3BBH5249710@borja.sarenet.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 23:28:28 -0700 From: Michael Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I need to perform a firmware upgrade on a Dell PERC3/DC RAID card. I have > read that the latest versions of the amr driver support the Linux management > utilities. Is this correct? No. You're probably confusing amr(4) with aac(4). 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