From owner-freebsd-small Sun Jan 27 5:35:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from altesco.xs4all.nl (altesco.xs4all.nl [213.84.124.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1864D37B402; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 05:35:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from giskard.altus-escon.com (giskard.altus-escon.com [193.78.231.1]) by earth.altus-escon.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0PIEDC19468; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 19:14:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from benst) Received: (from benst@localhost) by giskard.altus-escon.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16216; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 19:14:13 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200201251814.TAA16216@giskard.altus-escon.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v148.2.1) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b6) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148.2.1) From: Ben Stuyts Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 19:14:11 +0100 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Problem installing on Aaeon Gene-4310 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I am trying to install FreeBSD on a Aaeon Gene-4310 board. This is a tiny sbc based on National's Geode GX cpu with on-board VGA controller, ethernet, compact-flash slot, etc. It has 64 MB ram. Currently it has a floppy disk and a harddisk, but in the end I want to run it with a compact-flash card only. I am trying to install FreeBSD on it, so I downloaded the boot and mfsroot floppies. (I tried 4.4, 4.5RC and -current.) The system boots, goes into the blue installer screen, gives a short messages about locating devices, and then the screen goes blue with only a blinking cursor. Keyboard is non-responsive at that point, so I can't switch to the other console to see what's going on. Any ideas what is going wrong, or tips how to find out? Thanks, Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sun Jan 27 19:32:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from iitkgp.iitkgp.ernet.in (iitkgp.iitkgp.ernet.in [203.197.98.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE0F37B449 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 19:31:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from cse.iitkgp.ernet.in (IDENT:root@cse.iitkgp.ernet.in [144.16.192.57]) by iitkgp.iitkgp.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA09291; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 22:58:55 -0500 (GMT) Received: (from brucem@localhost) by cse.iitkgp.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.8.7) id g0S3dJP01699; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 09:09:19 +0530 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 09:09:19 +0530 From: Bruce Montague Message-Id: <200201280339.g0S3dJP01699@cse.iitkgp.ernet.in> To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD on Nat Semi Geode (GX1) SBC. Cc: benst@altus-escon.com Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG re: >This is a tiny sbc based on National's Geode GX > cpu with on-board ... what is going wrong,... I have successfully used FreeBSD/picoBSD on a number of Geode-based SBC boards (nat semi reference systems) with 64M RAM and smaller. I'm not sure if it's necessary under the latest stable, but I always apply the following two patches, which were essential under 4.1(?) stable. I've been running 4.4-stable kernels built with these patches on geode boards with "no" problems (that's not to say that "everything", including sound, for instance, will work)... The problem you describe sounds like it _might_ be the problem solved by the VGA patch below, that is, the driver does longword fetches that are not longword aligned; the geode VGA croaks... Incidently, the geode CPUs are descended from the old cyrix low-end CPUs... * Patch 1 makes the 8254 be used as the clock instead of the TSC (timer register), this might not be needed under 4.5-stable... * Patch 2 supports byte-aligned blits to ``VGA'' video memory. (1) Force Use of the 8254 instead of TSC. ========================================== In file: /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/clock.c At the end of routine ``startrtclock()'', replace this code: ------------------ if (tsc_present && tsc_freq != 0 && !tsc_is_broken) { tsc_timecounter.tc_frequency = tsc_freq; init_timecounter(&tsc_timecounter); } ------------------ with this new code: ------------------ /*--- Dont use TSC. ----*/ #if 0 if (tsc_present && tsc_freq != 0 && !tsc_is_broken) { tsc_timecounter.tc_frequency = tsc_freq; init_timecounter(&tsc_timecounter); } #endif ------------------ What this does is keep the virtual real-time clock that corresponds to the TSC from running. FreeBSD can use multiple real-time clock devices. Each device corresponds to a virtualized ``timecounter''. The last ``timercounter'' initialized is used by the system to perform delta-time delays such as those required by the all-important ``tsleep()'' function. Simply commenting out the TSC ``init_timecounter()'' call has the effect of causing the previously initialized 8254 timer chip to be used for system delta-time operations. (2) Writing to Video Memory =========================== In file: /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/support.s Replace the ``generic_bcopy()'' code shown here: ------------------ ENTRY(generic_bcopy) pushl %esi pushl %edi movl 12(%esp),%esi movl 16(%esp),%edi movl 20(%esp),%ecx movl %edi,%eax subl %esi,%eax cmpl %ecx,%eax /* overlapping && src < dst? */ jb 1f shrl $2,%ecx /* copy by 32-bit words */ cld /* nope, copy forwards */ rep movsl movl 20(%esp),%ecx andl $3,%ecx /* any bytes left? */ rep movsb popl %edi popl %esi ret ------------------ with the following code: ------------------ ENTRY(generic_bcopy) pushl %esi pushl %edi movl 12(%esp),%esi movl 16(%esp),%edi movl 20(%esp),%ecx movl %edi,%eax subl %esi,%eax cmpl %ecx,%eax /* overlapping && src < dst? */ jb 1f #if 0 shrl $2,%ecx /* copy by 32-bit words */ cld /* nope, copy forwards */ rep movsl movl 20(%esp),%ecx andl $3,%ecx /* any bytes left? */ #else cld /* NEW CODE! */ #endif rep movsb popl %edi popl %esi ret ------------------ What this does is eliminate an attempt to use a repeated move-word instruction loop as an optimization. Instead the entire string of bytes to be copied is simply copied using the repeated move-byte instruction that normally just handles the bytes in the last word. This fix is required because of a call in file: /usr/src/sys/dev/syscons/scvtb.c Routine ``sc_vtb_copy()'' calls ``bcopy_toio()'' on an odd-address when the bytes that comprise the video memory are blitted after a backspace. This mis-aligned move-word should exact a performace penalty, but should not hang the system (an older version of the reference motherboard I have generates a bad SMI (sys mgmt interrupt). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Jan 28 6:12:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com (garbo.lodgenet.com [204.124.122.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DF037B41C for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 06:12:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from hardy.lodgenet.com (hardy.lodgenet.com [10.0.104.235]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g0SEC9J16873; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 08:12:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from chaplin.lodgenet.com (not verified[10.0.104.215]) by hardy.lodgenet.com with MailMarshal (4,2,0,0) id ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 08:06:33 -0600 Received: by chaplin.lodgenet.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 08:08:34 -0600 Message-ID: <3EA88113DE92D211807300805FA7994209149A73@chaplin.lodgenet.com> From: "McKenna, Lee" To: "'John Utz'" , "Daniel O'Connor" Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Compact motherboard sources.. Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 08:08:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Agree, the Flex-ATX form factor is a good way to go. VIA also introduced a new reference design recently called the Mini-ITX, but I have not found a source. The closest thing is the Shuttle SV24, about the size of a shoe box - it has one PCI slot so you could throw a highend audio card if you dont like the AC97 that comes with it...oh, then there is this thing called the expresso from www.saintsong.com but its about $350US barebones, but does support PIII CPU if you need it. And the ThinkNIC is pretty thin, but good sound may be a challenge. I see Soundblaster has an external sound unit called Extigy that hooks up to a USB port, but its unlikely you will see bsd or linux support for it at least in full for a while. I should say I'm not in sales :) I've just been shopping around for small computers for a while and this is what I found so far... Have fun. --Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: John Utz [mailto:john@utzweb.net] > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 11:48 AM > To: Daniel O'Connor > Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Compact motherboard sources.. > > > anything that is called flexATX is the way to go. it's even > smaller than > microATX > > the last 2 computers that i have purchased have been in the > bookpc from > factor. getting cases has been a bitch, but it's less of a > problem now. > > i really love the form factor, because i hate wasting space > on a big empty > box and i dont have any urge to buy the aftermarket vid cards, ie the > "ThunderTech SabreRattler 256 AGP 4X Plutonium Edition". > > visitors to the home get freaked out because our computers > look like the > misbegotten progeny of a beige PC and an old sun pizzabox. > > note that it's probably a good idea to have one full size box > to shove > capture cards, backup gear, etc... > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > > Hi, > > I'm interested in getting some small (ie book sized) PC's > which can play audio > > and have ethernet as a way of running multiple audio (and > video possibly) > > channels around my house. > > > > I have found a few possibilities.. > > http://www.dpie.com/etx/etxmgx.html > > (Not sure about the processor though) > > > > And http://www.soekris.com/ plus > > http://www.boser.com.tw/product/minipci/hs876.htm > > > > I am also going to look through a few electronics magazines > in search of > > suitable systems.. > > > > The CPU requirements would be pretty modest I would think, > but the sound > > quality would have to be (very) good which is probably > going to be the kicker.. > > > > Anyone got any ideas? :) > > > > (BTW please CC me directly on this as I am not subscribed > to this list) > > > > --- > > Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer > > for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au > > "The nice thing about standards is that there > > are so many of them to choose from." > > -- Andrew Tanenbaum > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > John L. 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Message-ID: <20020130180421.O13412@vinyl.catpipe.net> References: <200201280339.g0S3dJP01699@cse.iitkgp.ernet.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200201280339.g0S3dJP01699@cse.iitkgp.ernet.in>; from brucem@cse.iitkgp.ernet.in on Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 09:09:19AM +0530 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 Organization: catpipe Systems ApS Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bruce Montague (brucem) writes: > * Patch 1 makes the 8254 be used as the clock instead > of the TSC (timer register), this might not be needed > under 4.5-stable... Oh very nice! This is going to be a big help -- the Geode GX1 boxes we use here had to be massively sedated with ntpdates and xntpds in order to have them keep a decent time! 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I NEED YOUR HUGE COCK NOW. http://smoothai.com/?r=third&p=e F R E E F R E E F R E E F R E E F R E E F R E E F R E E F R E E F R E E F R E E F R E E F R E E F R E E F R E E F R E E F R E E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Jan 30 16:34:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ipsnetwork.net (mail.ipsnetwork.net [209.202.83.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCC037B41C for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:34:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from apache@localhost) by mail.ipsnetwork.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g0V0m8t20007; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:48:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:48:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200201310048.g0V0m8t20007@mail.ipsnetwork.net> From: "Nathan Vidican" <> To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Reply-To: nathan@vidican.com Subject: OT: hardware requirements... any ideas? X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.24 X-IPAddress: 209.202.83.120 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey everyone, I was toying with the notion of a new project. I'm looking to build a controller out of a P.C. which will have a small graphical touch- screen interface. The system essentially needs to be a glorified web- browser over a wireless ethernet connection. It will (eventually) be tied into a home control system via a webserver it will connect to over the wireless ethernet. The software isn't much the problem, I plan to run a small copy of FreeBSD w/ X and Netscape, (which I'm hoping to get on a flash disk... will use NFS over wireless lan if need be). What I do need a great deal of help with, is sourcing the right hardware... at the right price. I will need a unit which is small in size, (it's going to eventually be a tablet-like device; hand-held and portable), runs off of DC power (as it will eventually be made to run from batteries), and has the following: - At least one PCMCIA slot (for 802.11 interface card), - Some sort of soundcard (to play MP3's mostly), - Decent video capable of working with a laptop display (TFT - to be taken from a dead laptop actually) - A serial port for the touch-screen interface - USB; nice...but not required - a PCI slot for future expansion (eg PCI/IDE interface or something) would also be nice... but is again not required If anyone has any ideas or suggestions I'm all ears. I'd like to find as inexpensive as possible... aiming to find something < $250 US if possible. I know there were similar such units spoken of on this list, minus the audio/video/802.11, maybe if someone could pass the link for those units back to me as well? Thanks all -- Nathan Vidican Nathan@Vidican.com http://Nathan.Vidican.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Jan 30 17:41:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f130.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A19037B404 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:40:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:40:58 -0800 Received: from 68.4.57.222 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 01:40:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.4.57.222] From: "Chuck T." To: nathan@vidican.com, freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: hardware requirements... any ideas? Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:40:57 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jan 2002 01:40:58.0087 (UTC) FILETIME=[54AFB770:01C1A9F8] Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, if you're willing to break some new ground you might take a look at the failed 3com Audry. It already has a touch screen and LCD along with 32mb of RAM, 16mb of flash, a serial port, sound in and out, compact flash socket and usb ports. They can be had for around $100 on ebay. The only problem is that it runs qnx and does not have full PC bios so no one has gotten FreeBSD or Linux to run on one *yet*. You can execute a properly formatted image from the compact flash by holding a button down at power up so in principle you could load PicoBSD that way. I'm working on getting PicoBSD to run on it, but it's a background task that I haven't put any cycles lately. For more information see http://www.linux-hacker.net or http://www.audreyhacking.com/ >From: "Nathan Vidican" <> >Reply-To: nathan@vidican.com >To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org >Subject: OT: hardware requirements... any ideas? >Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:48:08 -0500 (EST) > >Hey everyone, > > I was toying with the notion of a new project. I'm looking to build >a controller out of a P.C. which will have a small graphical touch- >screen interface. The system essentially needs to be a glorified web- >browser over a wireless ethernet connection. It will (eventually) be >tied into a home control system via a webserver it will connect to over >the wireless ethernet. The software isn't much the problem, I plan to >run a small copy of FreeBSD w/ X and Netscape, (which I'm hoping to get >on a flash disk... will use NFS over wireless lan if need be). > > What I do need a great deal of help with, is sourcing the right >hardware... at the right price. I will need a unit which is small in >size, (it's going to eventually be a tablet-like device; hand-held and >portable), runs off of DC power (as it will eventually be made to run >from batteries), and has the following: > >- At least one PCMCIA slot (for 802.11 interface card), >- Some sort of soundcard (to play MP3's mostly), >- Decent video capable of working with a laptop display (TFT - to be >taken from a dead laptop actually) >- A serial port for the touch-screen interface >- USB; nice...but not required >- a PCI slot for future expansion (eg PCI/IDE interface or something) >would also be nice... but is again not required > >If anyone has any ideas or suggestions I'm all ears. I'd like to find >as inexpensive as possible... aiming to find something < $250 US if >possible. I know there were similar such units spoken of on this list, >minus the audio/video/802.11, maybe if someone could pass the link for >those units back to me as well? > >Thanks all > >-- >Nathan Vidican >Nathan@Vidican.com >http://Nathan.Vidican.com/ > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Jan 30 22: 2:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2528B37B416 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 22:02:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g0V629o33654; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:02:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0V628x29375; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:02:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:01:41 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20020130.230141.110112715.imp@village.org> To: regnauld@catpipe.net Cc: brucem@cse.iitkgp.ernet.in, freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Nat Semi Geode (GX1) SBC. From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20020130180421.O13412@vinyl.catpipe.net> References: <200201280339.g0S3dJP01699@cse.iitkgp.ernet.in> <20020130180421.O13412@vinyl.catpipe.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was able to get a Geode GX1 eval board booting w/o the second of these two patches (the one for video). It just worked with 4.5-RELEASE. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Jan 30 22: 3: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5053737B400 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 22:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g0V634o33672; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:03:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0V633x29387; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:03:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:02:36 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20020130.230236.86962738.imp@village.org> To: nathan@vidican.com Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OT: hardware requirements... any ideas? From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <200201310048.g0V0m8t20007@mail.ipsnetwork.net> References: <200201310048.g0V0m8t20007@mail.ipsnetwork.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <200201310048.g0V0m8t20007@mail.ipsnetwork.net> "Nathan Vidican" <> writes: : - At least one PCMCIA slot (for 802.11 interface card), Or one pci slot or one mini-pci slot. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Jan 31 2:37:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from tetard.starbsd.org (cpe.atm0-0-0-2041003.0x503fdae6.boanxx7.customer.tele.dk [80.63.218.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A94A037B405 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 02:37:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from beurk.balder (beurk [192.168.249.40]) by tetard.starbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0862516FA8; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:37:23 +0100 (MET) Received: by beurk.balder (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9F27751603; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:37:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:37:32 +0100 From: Phil Regnauld To: "M. Warner Losh" Cc: brucem@cse.iitkgp.ernet.in, freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Nat Semi Geode (GX1) SBC. Message-ID: <20020131113732.E83639@beurk.balder> References: <200201280339.g0S3dJP01699@cse.iitkgp.ernet.in> <20020130180421.O13412@vinyl.catpipe.net> <20020130.230141.110112715.imp@village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020130.230141.110112715.imp@village.org>; from imp@village.org on Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 11:01:41PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Organization: catpipe Systems ApS Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG M. Warner Losh (imp) writes: > I was able to get a Geode GX1 eval board booting w/o the second of > these two patches (the one for video). It just worked with > 4.5-RELEASE. Actually it also works for me without the second patch using 4.4-STABLE, but then again we don't use the video. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Jan 31 9:15: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0684837B405 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04634 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:14:57 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:14:57 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Dillon To: Subject: Somewhat OT: Small networked PC Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The recent discussion of the NatSemi Geode systems reminded me that I needed to look for some small, cheap PCs that would be used to run a very simple Windows application that just sits on the network looking for something to do until it comes along. They don't have to be much: 64MB to 128MB system memory, at least a 486-class CPU, a network interface, and a pccard or CF slot, possibly even an IDE interface. Keyboard/mouse/VGA would be optional if I can get Windoze (either 98SE or NT4) to run fine without them. The Soekris net4501 would be ideal, in that case. Anyone know of any other relatively inexpensive hardware that would do this? Most of the PC/104 stuff is out, since its pretty expensive. Even some kind of pizzabox super-micro-ATX solution would be fine. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet - Available for IA32 (Intel x86) and Alpha architectures - IA64, PowerPC, UltraSPARC, and ARM architectures under development - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Jan 31 10:40:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from jupiter.linuxengine.net (jupiter2.linuxengine.net [209.61.188.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272AC37B430 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 10:39:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiterweb.commercevault.com (jupiterweb.commercevault.com [209.61.179.16] (may be forged)) by jupiter.linuxengine.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g0VIdmv15651; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:39:48 -0600 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:39:48 -0600 (CST) From: John Utz X-X-Sender: john@jupiter.linuxengine.net To: Chris Dillon Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Somewhat OT: Small networked PC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG stuff an ASUS CUSI-FX in a flexATX case from casedge. or some other flexATX board in a case from some other flexATX case manufacturer. google for flexATX or legacy free or BookPC. works plenty good at my house. On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Chris Dillon wrote: > > The recent discussion of the NatSemi Geode systems reminded me that I > needed to look for some small, cheap PCs that would be used to run a > very simple Windows application that just sits on the network looking > for something to do until it comes along. They don't have to be much: > 64MB to 128MB system memory, at least a 486-class CPU, a network > interface, and a pccard or CF slot, possibly even an IDE interface. > Keyboard/mouse/VGA would be optional if I can get Windoze (either 98SE > or NT4) to run fine without them. The Soekris net4501 would be ideal, > in that case. Anyone know of any other relatively inexpensive > hardware that would do this? Most of the PC/104 stuff is out, since > its pretty expensive. Even some kind of pizzabox super-micro-ATX > solution would be fine. > > > -- > Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net > FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet > - Available for IA32 (Intel x86) and Alpha architectures > - IA64, PowerPC, UltraSPARC, and ARM architectures under development > - http://www.freebsd.org > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message > -- John L. Utz III john@utzweb.net Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Feb 1 8:24:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from darkstar.wave-net.com.br (wv-acc2-ssa-C8B06E02.brdterra.com.br [200.176.110.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A918637B404 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:24:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from jcrr (wv-acc2-ssa-C8B06E01.brdterra.com.br [200.176.110.1]) by darkstar.wave-net.com.br (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g11ET5PO032238 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:29:06 GMT Message-ID: <002501c1ab45$33b3d080$2c00a8c0@intranet.wavenet.com.br> From: "Joao Carlos" To: Subject: snmp Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:23:44 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anybody here had success putting a snmp-agent in PicoBSD? How? Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Feb 2 6:50:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl.catpipe.net (vinyl.catpipe.net [195.249.214.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D024337B404 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 06:50:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by vinyl.catpipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 16CE01936; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 15:50:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 15:50:45 +0100 From: Phil Regnauld To: "M. Warner Losh" Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Nat Semi Geode (GX1) SBC. Message-ID: <20020202155045.A83305@vinyl.catpipe.net> References: <200201280339.g0S3dJP01699@cse.iitkgp.ernet.in> <20020130180421.O13412@vinyl.catpipe.net> <20020130.230141.110112715.imp@village.org> <20020131113732.E83639@beurk.balder> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020131113732.E83639@beurk.balder>; from regnauld@catpipe.net on Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 11:37:32AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 Organization: catpipe Systems ApS Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Phil Regnauld (regnauld) writes: > > Actually it also works for me without the second patch using > 4.4-STABLE, but then again we don't use the video. ... or so I thought until the box started panic'ing randomly when using dummynet + bridging. This doesn't happen (as much) when using the video patch. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Feb 2 11: 6:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39ADA37B400 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 11:06:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g12J6ho50411; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 12:06:43 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g12J6fL13739; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 12:06:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2002 12:06:12 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20020202.120612.40134821.imp@village.org> To: regnauld@catpipe.net Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Nat Semi Geode (GX1) SBC. From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20020202155045.A83305@vinyl.catpipe.net> References: <20020130.230141.110112715.imp@village.org> <20020131113732.E83639@beurk.balder> <20020202155045.A83305@vinyl.catpipe.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <20020202155045.A83305@vinyl.catpipe.net> Phil Regnauld writes: : Phil Regnauld (regnauld) writes: : > : > Actually it also works for me without the second patch using : > 4.4-STABLE, but then again we don't use the video. : : ... or so I thought until the box started panic'ing randomly : when using dummynet + bridging. : : This doesn't happen (as much) when using the video patch. Interesting. Sounds like random data corruption then... I haven't had a chance to put things through their paces with the geode board yet (we got it in, then desided that we wanted a different model for our application). Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Feb 2 11:42:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from tetard.starbsd.org (cpe.atm0-0-0-2041003.0x503fdae6.boanxx7.customer.tele.dk [80.63.218.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AF6837B400 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 11:42:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from beurk.balder (beurk [192.168.249.40]) by tetard.starbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C7316F95; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 20:41:55 +0100 (MET) Received: by beurk.balder (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0A3D151603; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 20:42:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 20:42:13 +0100 From: Phil Regnauld To: "M. Warner Losh" Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Nat Semi Geode (GX1) SBC. Message-ID: <20020202204213.A18272@beurk.balder> References: <20020130.230141.110112715.imp@village.org> <20020131113732.E83639@beurk.balder> <20020202155045.A83305@vinyl.catpipe.net> <20020202.120612.40134821.imp@village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020202.120612.40134821.imp@village.org>; from imp@village.org on Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 12:06:12PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Organization: catpipe Systems ApS Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG M. Warner Losh (imp) writes: > > Interesting. Sounds like random data corruption then... I haven't > had a chance to put things through their paces with the geode board > yet (we got it in, then desided that we wanted a different model for > our application). Mind you, it runs perfectly doing PPPoE, IPsec, dummynet, dhcpd. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message