From owner-freebsd-sparc Sun May 19 2:28: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from localhost.com (hkg-tgn-rwe-vty5.as.wcom.net [63.12.174.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DF8637B413 for ; Sun, 19 May 2002 02:27:15 -0700 (PDT) From: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: pni123456789@hotmail.com To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 16:56:44 +0700 Subject: วันนี้คุณรู้สึกอย่างไร 19/5/2002 16:56:44 X-Mailer: QuickSender 1.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20020519092715.4DF8637B413@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear freebsd-sparc =2C =C7=D1=B9=B9=D5=E9 =A4=D8=B3=C3=D9=E9=CA=D6=A1=C7=E8=D2=E0=A7=D4=B9=E0=B4=D7=CD=B9=B7=D5=E8=A4=D8=B3=E4=B4=E9=C3=D1=BA=E4=C1=E8=A4=D8=E9=C1=A4=E8=D2=A1=D1=BA=A4=C7=D2=C1=CA=D2=C1=D2=C3=B6=A2=CD=A7=A4=D8=B3 =C7=D1=B9=B9=D5=E9 =A4=D8=B3=C3=D9=E9=CA=D6=A1=C7=E8=D2=E0=BE=D7=E8=CD=B9=C3=E8=C7=C1=A7=D2=B9=A1=E9=D2=C7=CB=B9=E9=D2 =E3=B9=A2=B3=D0=B7=D5=E8=A4=D8=B3=CD=C2=D9=E8=B7=D5=E8=E0=B4=D4=C1 =B7=D1=E9=A7 =E6=B7=D5=E8 =A4=D8=B3=C1=D5=A4=C7=D2=C1=CA=D2=C1=D2=C3=B6=A1=C7=E8=D2 =C7=D1=B9=B9=D5=E9 =A4=D8=B3=C3=D9=E9=CA=D6=A1=E0=CB=B9=D7=E8=CD=C2=A1=D1=BA=A1=D2=C3=B7=D3=A7=D2=B9 =E1=C5=E9=C7=C1=CD=A7=CB=D2=CB=B9=B7=D2=A7=B7=D5=E8=B4=D5=A1=C7=E8=D2=E3=B9=CD=B9=D2=A4=B5 =C7=D1=B9=B9=D5=E9 =A4=D8=B3=C3=D9=E9=CA=D6=A1=CD=C2=D2=A1=C1=D5=AA=D5=C7=B5=B7=D5=E8=B4=D5=A1=C7=E8=D2=C7=D1=B9=B9=D5=E9 =CB=D2=A1=A4=D8=B3=B5=CD=BA=C7=E8=D2=E3=AA=E8 =E0=BE=D5=C2=A7=A2=E9=CD=E3=B4=A2=E9=CD=CB=B9=D6=E8=A7 =E0=C7=BB=E4=AB=B5=EC=B9=D5=E9=A4=A7=AA=E8=C7=C2=A4=D8=B3=E4=B4=E9 http=3A=2F=2Fwww=2Ethaiworkathome=2Ecom=2Finformation =CB=D2=A1=A4=D8=B3=B5=E9=CD=A7=A1=D2=C3=CA=D4=E8=A7=B7=D5=E8=B4=D5=A1=C7=E8=D2=E3=B9=CD=B9=D2=A4=B5 =E1=B5=E8=A4=D8=B3=C1=D4=E4=B4=E9=E0=BB=C5=D5=E8=C2=B9=E1=BB=C5=A7=CB=C3=D7=CD=E1=C1=E9=E1=B5=E8=A8=D0=A4=D4=B4 =B7=D8=A1=CD=C2=E8=D2=A7=E3=B9=AA=D5=C7=D4=B5=A1=E7=A8=D0=E4=C1=E8=E0=BB=C5=D5=E8=C2=B9=E1=BB=C5=A7 =22=A2=CD=CD=C0=D1=C2=CB=D2=A1=A2=E9=CD=A4=C7=D2=C1=B9=D5=E9=B6=D9=A1=CA=E8=A7=E4=BB=C2=D1=A7=A4=D8=B3=E2=B4=C2=BA=D1=A7=E0=CD=D4=AD =CB=D2=A1=A4=D8=B3=B5=E9=CD=A7=A1=D2=C3=E3=CB=E9=C3=D2=C2=AA=D7=E8=CD=B6=D9=A1=C5=BA=CD=CD=A1 =09=A1=C3=D8=B3=D2 click =B7=D5=E8=B9=D5=E8 http=3A=2F=2Fwww=2Ethaiworkathome=2Ecom=2Funsubscribe=2Easp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sun May 19 11:33:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C4837B40E for ; Sun, 19 May 2002 11:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g4JIXaJn042162 for ; Sun, 19 May 2002 11:33:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g4JIXZcI042161 for sparc64@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 May 2002 11:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 11:33:35 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Fully hosted Message-ID: <20020519113335.A42109@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: sparc64@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Many already know this, but I wanted to report that FreeBSD/sparc64 is now fully hosted (and from stock sources). A post-remove-perl-from-/usr/src `make world' on my Blade100 took 2 1/2 hours on its stock IDE disk. I have NO_WERROR, NO_GDB, and NOLIBC_R set. A `make world' with the gcc31 port and CXX=/usr/local/bin/sparc64-undermydesk-freebsd5.0-g++31 takes about 2 hrs 45 min. (this adds groff to the build) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sun May 19 12:43:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from newtrinity.default-network.net (newtrinity.default-network.net [62.159.128.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5DE37B410; Sun, 19 May 2002 12:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newtrinity.default-network.net (corex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newtrinity.default-network.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/DEFAULT-NETWORK.NET) with ESMTP id g4JJhp2l051078; Sun, 19 May 2002 21:43:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from corex@newtrinity.default-network.net) Received: (from corex@localhost) by newtrinity.default-network.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g4JJhovD051077; Sun, 19 May 2002 21:43:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from corex) Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 21:43:50 +0200 From: marius@alchemy.franken.de To: sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "David O'Brien" Subject: Re: Fully hosted Message-ID: <20020519214350.A41498@newtrinity.default-network.net> References: <20020519113335.A42109@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020519113335.A42109@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, May 19, 2002 at 11:33:35AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 11:33:35AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > Many already know this, but I wanted to report that FreeBSD/sparc64 is > now fully hosted (and from stock sources). great! but what "stock sources" are you refering to, those from the p4 tree or those from cvs ? i tried about a week ago with the p4 sources and those failed in various places on the way to a new 'world', well libc_r was one... what in general are nowadays the differences between the sparc64 p4 tree and the main cvs repository, there seem to be (the same) sparc64-specific commits to both trees, while src/sys/sparc64/fpu is only in the p4 one ? or to put it another way, when can one expect the both trees to be merged and the p4 tree to "go away" ? > > A post-remove-perl-from-/usr/src `make world' on my Blade100 took 2 1/2 > hours on its stock IDE disk. I have NO_WERROR, NO_GDB, and NOLIBC_R set. > > A `make world' with the gcc31 port and > CXX=/usr/local/bin/sparc64-undermydesk-freebsd5.0-g++31 > takes about 2 hrs 45 min. (this adds groff to the build) > uhm, what is the difference between the in-tree gcc31 and the gcc31 port ? no g++ (for sparc64) ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sun May 19 17: 6: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6919237B409 for ; Sun, 19 May 2002 17:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g4K05o7T094624 for ; Sun, 19 May 2002 20:05:50 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020519113335.A42109@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20020519113335.A42109@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 20:05:49 -0400 To: sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: Fully hosted Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.3 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:33 AM -0700 5/19/02, David O'Brien wrote: >Many already know this, but I wanted to report that >FreeBSD/sparc64 is now fully hosted (and from stock >sources). When would a new ISO show up for installing sparc64? -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Mon May 20 18:52:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C8E37B409 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 18:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g4L1orJn078604; Mon, 20 May 2002 18:50:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g4L1orwF078603; Mon, 20 May 2002 18:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 18:50:53 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: marius@alchemy.franken.de Cc: sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fully hosted Message-ID: <20020520185053.A78507@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020519113335.A42109@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020519214350.A41498@newtrinity.default-network.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020519214350.A41498@newtrinity.default-network.net>; from marius@alchemy.franken.de on Sun, May 19, 2002 at 09:43:50PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 09:43:50PM +0200, marius@alchemy.franken.de wrote: > On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 11:33:35AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > Many already know this, but I wanted to report that FreeBSD/sparc64 is > > now fully hosted (and from stock sources). > > great! > but what "stock sources" are you refering to, those from the p4 tree > or those from cvs ? stock == from cvs. > > A `make world' with the gcc31 port and > > CXX=/usr/local/bin/sparc64-undermydesk-freebsd5.0-g++31 > > takes about 2 hrs 45 min. (this adds groff to the build) > > uhm, what is the difference between the in-tree gcc31 and the gcc31 port ? > no g++ (for sparc64) ? No C++ support libraries for all platforms. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue May 21 8:20:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from cc-gw.1anetworks.net (cc-gw.1anetworks.net [193.243.179.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 99A7337B404 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 08:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BRI (brian.1anetworks.net [212.36.98.200]) by parma.1anetworks.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA16894 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 16:20:02 +0100 (BST) From: "Bri" To: Subject: make depend help needed Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 16:15:00 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've fixed most of the files that it can't find by putting symlinks where they should go and thats worked fine but this one I can't figure out. There is the error output. any help will be great guys. ===> usr.bin/csplit rm -f .depend CC='/arch/sparc64/hosted/bin/gcc' mkdep -f .depend -a csplit.c echo csplit: /usr/lib/libc.a >> .depend ===> usr.bin/ctags rm -f .depend CC='/arch/sparc64/hosted/bin/gcc' mkdep -f pend -a -I/root/src/usr.bin/ctags C.c ctags.c fortr .c yacc.c echo ctags: /usr/lib/libc.a >> .depend ===> usr.bin/cut rm -f .depend CC='/arch/sparc64/hosted/bin/gcc' mkdep -f .depend -a cut.c echo cut: /usr/lib/libc.a >> .depend ===> usr.bin/dirname rm -f .depend CC='/arch/sparc64/hosted/bin/gcc' mkdep -f .depend -a dirname.c echo dirname: /usr/lib/libc.a >> .depend ===> usr.bin/du rm -f .depend CC='/arch/sparc64/hosted/bin/gcc' mkdep -f .depend -a du.c echo du: /usr/lib/libc.a /usr/lib/libm.a >> .depend ===> usr.bin/ee rm -f .depend CC='/arch/sparc64/hosted/bin/gcc' mkdep -f .depend -a -DCAP -DHAS_NCURSES -DHAS_UNISTD -DHAS_STDAR PE -DHAS_SYS_IOCTL -DHAS_SYS_WAIT -DSLCT_HDR ee.c echo ee: /usr/lib/libc.a /usr/lib/libncurses.a >> .depend ===> usr.bin/elf2aout rm -f .depend CC='/arch/sparc64/hosted/bin/gcc' mkdep -f .depend -a elf2aout.c elf2aout.c:32:24: sys/endian.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /root/src/usr.bin/elf2aout. *** Error code 1 Stop in /root/src/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /root/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /root/src. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue May 21 8:53:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from k6.locore.ca (k6.locore.ca [198.96.117.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C83C37B407 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 08:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jake@localhost) by k6.locore.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g4LG64M77455; Tue, 21 May 2002 12:06:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jake) Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 12:06:04 -0400 From: Jake Burkholder To: Bri Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make depend help needed Message-ID: <20020521120604.E62759@locore.ca> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from brian@ukip.com on Tue, May 21, 2002 at 04:15:00PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Apparently, On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 04:15:00PM +0100, Bri said words to the effect of; > I've fixed most of the files that it can't find by putting symlinks where > they should go and thats worked fine but this one I can't figure out. There > is the error output. > > any help will be great guys. > > ===> usr.bin/csplit > rm -f .depend > CC='/arch/sparc64/hosted/bin/gcc' mkdep -f .depend -a csplit.c > echo csplit: /usr/lib/libc.a >> .depend > ===> usr.bin/ctags > rm -f .depend > CC='/arch/sparc64/hosted/bin/gcc' mkdep -f > pend -a -I/root/src/usr.bin/ctags C.c ctags.c fortr > .c yacc.c > echo ctags: /usr/lib/libc.a >> .depend > ===> usr.bin/cut > rm -f .depend > CC='/arch/sparc64/hosted/bin/gcc' mkdep -f .depend -a cut.c > echo cut: /usr/lib/libc.a >> .depend > ===> usr.bin/dirname > rm -f .depend > CC='/arch/sparc64/hosted/bin/gcc' mkdep -f .depend -a dirname.c > echo dirname: /usr/lib/libc.a >> .depend > ===> usr.bin/du > rm -f .depend > CC='/arch/sparc64/hosted/bin/gcc' mkdep -f .depend -a du.c > echo du: /usr/lib/libc.a /usr/lib/libm.a >> .depend > ===> usr.bin/ee > rm -f .depend > CC='/arch/sparc64/hosted/bin/gcc' mkdep -f > .depend -a -DCAP -DHAS_NCURSES -DHAS_UNISTD -DHAS_STDAR > PE -DHAS_SYS_IOCTL -DHAS_SYS_WAIT -DSLCT_HDR ee.c > echo ee: /usr/lib/libc.a /usr/lib/libncurses.a >> .depend > ===> usr.bin/elf2aout > rm -f .depend > CC='/arch/sparc64/hosted/bin/gcc' mkdep -f .depend -a elf2aout.c > elf2aout.c:32:24: sys/endian.h: No such file or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /root/src/usr.bin/elf2aout. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /root/src/usr.bin. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /root/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /root/src. You need to do make includes. However, this isn't really the right way to bootstrap. Please wait until I have another snapshot and you can do a binary upgrade. I'm just trying to fix some stability problems with the kernel in cvs first. Jake To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue May 21 18:35:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E2837B404 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 18:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g4M1ZMJn046649; Tue, 21 May 2002 18:35:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g4M1ZLtA046648; Tue, 21 May 2002 18:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 18:35:21 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Bri Cc: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make depend help needed Message-ID: <20020521183521.B46527@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from brian@ukip.com on Tue, May 21, 2002 at 04:15:00PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 04:15:00PM +0100, Bri wrote: > I've fixed most of the files that it can't find by putting symlinks where > they should go and thats worked fine but this one I can't figure out. There > is the error output. Please list *exactly* what you did. The quality of the advice depends on the quality of the description of the problem and what you've done. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed May 22 22:22:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from madlen.mts.ru (madlen.mts.ru [212.44.140.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3991037B405 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 22:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stella.komi.mts.ru (stella [10.50.1.1]) by madlen.mts.ru with ESMTP id g4N5MRK18397 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 09:22:28 +0400 (MSD) X-Envelope-To: Received: from dav.komi.mts.ru (dav.komi.mts.ru [10.50.1.37]) (authenticated as tiamat with CRAM-MD5) by stella.komi.mts.ru (MTS Komi) with ESMTP id g4N5MNR52427 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 09:22:25 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tiamat@komi.mts.ru) Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:22:22 +0400 From: Alex Deiter X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60k) Reply-To: Alex Deiter Organization: MTS X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <616092620.20020523092222@komi.mts.ru> To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: problem with gem on receive: MAC rx fault, status 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have a problem with gem (PCI GEM Ethernet) on receive large files (over ftp/scp). lom>poweron Netra T1 200 (UltraSPARC-IIe 500MHz), No Keyboard OpenBoot 4.0, 512 MB memory installed, Serial #51589233. Ethernet address 0:3:ba:13:30:71, Host ID: 83133071. Boot device: disk File and args: >> FreeBSD/sparc64 boot block Boot path: /pci@1f,0/pci@1/scsi@8/disk@0,0:a Boot loader: /boot/loader Console: OpenFirmware console disk0 is /pci@1f,0/pci@1/scsi@8/disk@0 FreeBSD/sparc64 loader bootpath="/pci@1f,0/pci@1/scsi@8/disk@0,0:a" loaddev=disk0s0a: > \ \: unknown command ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>> Why there is this error? \ /boot/kernel/kernel data=0x290608+0xe2d98 syms=[0x8+0x3f078+0x8+0x31193] Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [/boot/kernel/kernel]... nothing to autoload yet. jumping to kernel entry at 0x80030000. Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Wed May 22 07:41:58 GMT 2002 root@severina.komi.mts.ru:/home/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC.mts Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0x803e6000. Timecounter "tick" frequency 500000000 Hz cpu0: Sun Microsystems UltraSparc-IIe Processor (500.00 MHZ CPU) nexus0: pcib0: on nexus0 pcib0: SUNW,sabre: impl 0, version 0: ign 7c0 bus range 0 to 2; PCI bus 0 DVMA map: 0xc0000000 to 0xdfffffff pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: descending to subordinate PCI bus pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: no interrupt mapping found for 1/12/0 (preset 0) pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: no interrupt mapping found for 1/3/0 (preset 0) pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: no interrupt mapping found for 1/3/0 (preset 0) pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: no interrupt mapping found for 1/7/0 (preset 0) pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: mapping intr for 1/12/1 to 6 (preset was 0) pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: mapping intr for 1/12/3 to 36 (preset was 0) pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: mapping intr for 1/13/0 to 12 (preset was 0) pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: mapping intr for 1/5/1 to 28 (preset was 0) pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: mapping intr for 1/5/3 to 38 (preset was 0) pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: descending to subordinate PCI bus pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: mapping intr for 2/8/0 to 32 (preset was 0) pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: mapping intr for 2/8/1 to 32 (preset was 0) pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 sym0: <896> port 0xc00000-0xc000ff mem 0x4000-0x5fff,0x2000-0x23ff irq 32 at dev ice 8.0 on pci1 sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking sym1: <896> port 0xc00100-0xc001ff mem 0x8000-0x9fff,0x6000-0x63ff irq 32 at dev ice 8.1 on pci1 sym1: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking pcib2: at device 1.1 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 pci2: at device 3.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 7.0 on pci2 isa0: on isab0 ebus0: revision 0x01 ebus0: : incomplete ebus0: mem 0xf1000000-0xf17fffff,0xf0000000-0xf0ffffff at dev ice 12.0 on pci2 ebus0: addr 0x1000000000-0x10000fffff (no driver attached) eeprom0: addr 0x1400000000-0x1400001fff on ebus0 eeprom0: model mk48t59 eeprom0: hostid 83133071 ebus0: addr 0x1400200000-0x1400200003 irq 42 (no driver attached) gem0: mem 0xe0400000-0xe041ffff irq 6 at devic e 12.1 on pci2 miibus0: on gem0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto gem0: Ethernet address: 00:03:ba:13:30:71 using internal phy pci2: at device 12.3 (no driver attached) atapci0: port 0x420-0x42f,0x408-0x40b,0x410- 0x417,0x418-0x41b,0x400-0x407 irq 12 at device 13.0 on pci2 ata2: at 0x400 on atapci0 ata3: at 0x410 on atapci0 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 17274MB (35378533 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2202C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a Entropy harvesting: interrupts ethernet point_to_point. swapon: adding /dev/da0b as swap device Automatic boot in progress... /dev/da0a: 386 files, 5127 used, 10867 free (35 frags, 5416 blocks, 0.2% fragmen tation) Doing initial network setup: hostname. gem0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.50.1.9 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.50.1.255 ether 00:03:ba:13:30:71 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 add net default: gateway 10.50.1.254 Additional routing options:. Routing daemons:. Additional daemons: syslogdMay 23 04:44:56 severina syslogd: kernel boot file is /kernel . Doing additional network setup:. Starting final network daemons:. ELF ldconfig path: /usr/lib /usr/lib/compat /usr/local/lib Starting standard daemons: cron sshd. Initial rc.sparc64 initialization:. Configuring syscons:. Additional ABI support:. Local package initialization:. Additional TCP options:. Thu May 23 04:45:03 GMT 2002 FreeBSD/sparc64 (severina.komi.mts.ru) (ofwcons) login: root Password: >>> Try receive big file: severina# ftp server ..... ftp> get ports.tar.bz2 local: ports.tar.bz2 remote: ports.tar.bz2 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||49364|) 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'ports.tar.bz2' (52432031 bytes). 0% | | 0 0.00 KB/s --:-- ETAM AC rx fault, status 2 MAC rx fault, status 3 6% |** | 3384 KB 3.02 MB/s 00:15 ETAM AC rx fault, status 3 MAC rx fault, status 3 6% |** | 3439 KB 1.59 MB/s 00:29 ETAM AC rx fault, status 3 MAC rx fault, status 3 15% |***** | 7772 KB 1.24 MB/s 00:34 ETAM AC rx fault, status 3 15% |***** | 7835 KB 860.87 KB/s 00:50 ETAM AC rx fault, status 3 MAC rx fault, status 3 22% |******** | 11774 KB 145.17 KB/s - stalled -^ C receive aborted. Waiting for remote to finish abort. ^C remote abort aborted; closing connection. 12056576 bytes received in 01:22 (142.91 KB/s) ftp> ftp> quit >>> After that the network die: >> ping self severina# ping 10.50.1.9 PING 10.50.1.9 (10.50.1.9): 48 data bytes 64 bytes from 10.50.1.9: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.225 ms 64 bytes from 10.50.1.9: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.119 ms ^C --- 10.50.1.9 ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.119/0.172/0.225/0.053 ms >> ping server severina# ping 10.50.1.1 PING 10.50.1.1 (10.50.1.1): 48 data bytes >>Here very long waiting... ^C severina# ifconfig -a gem0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.50.1.9 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.50.1.255 ether 00:03:ba:13:30:71 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 severina# severina# netstat -i Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll gem0 1500 00:03:ba:13:30:71 8487 0 4575 0 0 >>Here very long waiting... (eps 2-3 min) gem0 1500 10.50.1/24 10.50.1.9 8445 - 4573 - - lo0 16384 0 0 0 0 0 >>Here very long waiting... (eps 2-3 min) lo0 16384 your-net 127.0.0.1 0 - 0 - - ppp0* 1500 0 0 0 0 0 severina# reboot ...... >>>>After reboot try send big file: ftp> put test local: test remote: test 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||49365|) 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'test'. 100% |*************************************| 143 MB 7.66 MB/s 00:00 ETA 226 Transfer complete. 150934528 bytes sent in 00:18 (7.61 MB/s) Why ? -- Best regards, Alex mailto:tiamat@komi.mts.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu May 23 1:24:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from panther.cableinet.net (panther.cableinet.net [193.38.113.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58A7A37B412 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 01:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27788 invoked by alias); 23 May 2002 08:28:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rubik) (194.117.142.227) by panther.cableinet.net with SMTP; 23 May 2002 08:28:46 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c20233$45818920$e38e75c2@cableinet.net> From: "Jason Mann" To: References: <20020521183521.B46527@dragon.nuxi.com> Subject: hme ethernet interface driver Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:24:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I have two 'hme' interfaces in my Sun Ultra 5, one on the motherboard and one on a PCI card, and in the OpenBoot environment I have set "local-mac-address? = true" in an attempt to make the cards assume their own hard coded MAC addresses instead of using the systemwide one from the OBP. However, both hme interfaces retain the host's global MAC address, as shown below. hme0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 ether 08:00:20:b0:db:60 media: Ethernet autoselect hme1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.0.4 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet6 fe80::a00:20ff:feb0:db60%hme1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 ether 08:00:20:b0:db:60 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX) status: active I read somewhere that the ability to use unique MAC addresses is somewhat dependant on the driver, so my question is, does the hme driver included with 5.0-CURRENT support this? Many thanks, Jason Mann To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu May 23 3:16:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cscoms.com (mail.cscoms.com [202.183.255.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC1E37B409 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 03:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cscoms.com (dial-301.ras-2.bkk.c.cscoms.com [203.170.146.175]) by mail.cscoms.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id g4NAEbJ26726 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 17:14:37 +0700 (GMT) Message-Id: <1022149139.110@cscoms.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 17:18:59 0700 To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.org From: "richy" Subject: งาน Part Time สร้างรายได้ดี ใช้เทคโนโลยีทำงานแทนคุณ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: 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Oracle=20 Reports Developer 6i: Build Internet = Reports 17-21 =C9=C0=CE=D1=20
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=CE=C1=20 =C1=D7=D4=CF=D2=C9=DA=CF=D7=C1=CE=CE=D9=C5 =CB=D5=D2=D3=D9 = Microsoft:

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Programming a Microsoft SQL Server 2000=20 Database 10-14 =C9=C0=CE=D1=20
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