From owner-freebsd-sparc Sun Jun 9 7:27:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD5B37B408 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 07:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Sun, 9 Jun 2002 15:27:05 +0100 Received: from [172.16.1.4] (unverified [80.192.165.199]) by pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 15:27:05 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: phnw09809_2@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk Message-Id: Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 15:26:41 +0000 To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org From: Bri Subject: strange procfs problem when compiling new sparc64 kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I've managed to compile my own kernel which only has these differences to the GENERIC one here's the diff. [Surf1] /usr/current/src/sys/sparc64/conf% diff GENERIC ROUTERSPARC6420020608 64a65,67 > options IPDIVERT > options IPFIREWALL > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE I get this message on boot when it trys to mount the procfs from my /etc/fstab file procfs doesn't support the old mount syscall besides that my compile boots great. the procfs line for the fstab file looks like proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 I'm really not sure what is wrong I'm currently running the GENERIC kernel you supplied with the cd rom iso image which I then installed onto my harddisk using the instructions provided. this one.. FreeBSD Surf1 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #9: Tue Apr 9 04:25:17 GMT 2002 jake@u60.locore.ca:/usr/current/src/sys/sparc64/compile/GENERIC sparc64 any help would be great the kernel sources I'm using are the ones I just from the cvs about 2 days ago so there quite upto date. Bri, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sun Jun 9 7:38:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7332037B40C for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 07:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1920) id 4BAACAE2AC; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 07:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 07:38:33 -0700 From: Maxime Henrion To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Cc: Bri Subject: Re: strange procfs problem when compiling new sparc64 kernel Message-ID: <20020609143833.GG85244@elvis.mu.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bri wrote: > I get this message on boot when it trys to mount the procfs from my > /etc/fstab file > > procfs doesn't support the old mount syscall You have to recompile your mount_std(8) system utility. Remember that make world + kernel build is the only supported upgrade path, meaning if you only recompile your kernel or your userland, you are likelty to run into problems like this one where the userland is not sync'd with the kernel. Maxime To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sun Jun 9 8:43:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [212.66.1.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09F037B401 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 08:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g59Fhnw21612; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 17:43:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 17:43:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200206091543.g59Fhnw21612@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disklabel -e fault (2nd, sorry) In-Reply-To: <3D024D5E.8020405@into.ch> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-sparc User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.5-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Emanuel Haupt wrote: > [...] > sectors/cylinder: 16065 > [...] > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 400M 0 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 > b: 1G * swap > c: * 0 unused > e: 2G * 4.2BSD > f: 2G * 4.2BSD > g: * * 4.2BSD > > unfortunately i got the following errors after :wq! : > partition b: does not start on a cylinder boundary! > partition c: does not start on a cylinder boundary! > partition e: does not start on a cylinder boundary! > partition f: does not start on a cylinder boundary! > partition g: does not start on a cylinder boundary! > > i even tried lowercase m and g, but i had the same errors. > can you tell me what i am doing wrong? As the instructions clearly say, the partions have to start on cylinder boundaries, in order for the PROM to be able to boot. On your disk, a cylinder is 16065 sectors (that's 8032.5 Kbytes), and your partition sizes are not a multiple of that, so it can't work that way. Basically, you can't use "M", "G", "%" or "*" for the size column (except maybe for the last partition, but I haven't tried that). Although you can (and should) use "*" for the offset column. In your case, I'd suggest the following: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 819315 0 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 b: 2104515 * swap c: * 0 unused e: 4176900 * 4.2BSD f: 4176900 * 4.2BSD g: * * 4.2BSD That will end up to have about the partition sizes you want. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. 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Maintenance Tips 3397cbdK3-252Ooxd0050yrGV9-387Mq-30 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 0102 01:34:21 -0200 MiME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C3_37C44A1A.B4572C37" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_37C44A1A.B4572C37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 SWYgeW91ciBob21lIGlzIHNlcnZlZCBieSBhIHNlcHRpYyBzeXN0ZW0sIHlv dSBhcmUNCmFibGUgdG8gcmVjZWl2ZSBpbnZhbHVhYmxlIGluZm9ybWF0aW9u IG9uIGhvdyB0bw0KZWxpbWluYXRlIHB1bXAgb3V0cywgaG93IHRvIG1haW50 YWluIHRoZSBzeXN0ZW0NCnByb3Blcmx5IGFuZCBjdXJlIHByb2JsZW1zIHN1 Y2ggYXMgYmFja3Vwcywgd2V0IHNwb3RzLA0Kb2RvciwgZXRjLiAtLSAgRk9S IEZSRUUhDQoNCllvdSBjYW4gZG8gdGhpcyBieSBjaGVja2luZyBvdXQgb3Vy IHNpdGUgYXQ6IA0KDQpodHRwOi8vd3d3LnNwYzg3MDg1LmNvbS8NCg0KSW4g YWRkaXRpb24sIHlvdSB3aWxsIGhhdmUgdGhlIG9wcG9ydHVuaXR5IHRvDQpw YXJ0aWNpcGF0ZSBpbiBhIGZyZWUgdHJpYWwgcHJvZ3JhbSB0byB0ZXN0IHRo ZQ0KZWZmZWN0aXZlbmVzcyBvZiBvdXIgcHJvZHVjdCwgSU4gWU9VUiBPV04g U1lTVEVNLiANCg0KUGxlYXNlIGNoZWNrIHVzIG91dC4NCg0KVGhhbmsgeW91 Lg0KDQpTaW5jZXJlbHksDQoNClNQQw0KDQpQLlMuIFJlbWVtYmVyLCB5b3Ug bXVzdCBjbGljayBvbiB0aGlzIGxpbmsgdG8gcmVjZWl2ZQ0KdGhpcyBoZWxw ZnVsIGluZm9ybWF0aW9uIQ0KDQpodHRwOi8vd3d3LnNwYzg3MDg1LmNvbS8N Cg0KDQoNClRvIGJlIHJlbW92ZWQgZnJvbSBvdXIgZW1haWwgbGlzdCBwbGVh c2UgY2xpY2sgb24gdGhlIGxpbmsgYmVsb3cuDQpodHRwOi8vd3d3LnNwYzg3 MDg1LmNvbS9yZW1vdmUuaHRtbA0KNDk4NXJybVczLTMyOWxMdlYyODQ5c0Fy QTUtOTQ3Q2NlejA4MDJoWFBGNy00NjNuUldMNDM1NURRVkMyLTIwNXBZdFI4 ODA0bDY4 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Jun 12 9: 9:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from theinternet.com.au (c16543.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [210.49.135.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E55537B404 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from akm@localhost) by theinternet.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.4) id g5CG9Oh46249 for freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 02:09:24 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from akm) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 02:09:23 +1000 From: Andrew Kenneth Milton To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Subject: Weird PCI interface Message-ID: <20020613020923.C44400@zeus.theinternet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was playing with some stuff to muck with the video card on the sun5 I have. dmesg shows; pci2: at device 2.0 (no driver attached) pciconf -lv shows none0@pci1:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x47541002 rev=0x9a hdr=0x00 vendor = 'ATI Technologies' device = 'Mach 64 GT Rage 3D II Graphics Accelerator' class = display subclass = VGA I wrote some code based on the pciconf code to basically go fetch things from the video card, but, it was failing, all values were coming back 0xffffffff (-1?) (works in i386, but, I only have one PCI bus there). So I went back to basics... root@orchid~akm#pciconf -l [snip] none0@pci1:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x47541002 rev=0x9a hdr=0x00 root@orchid~akm#pciconf -r pci1:2:0 0 ffffffff root@orchid~akm#pciconf -r pci2:2:0 0 47541002 There's an off by one error somewhere, the pc_bus reported by ioctl(fd, PCIOCGETCONF, &pc) is coming back wrong. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ FreeBSD orchid.theinternet.com.au 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Jun 12 22:37:04 GMT 2002 akm@orchid.theinternet.com.au:/usr/src/sys/sparc64/compile/orchid sparc64 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Jun 12 22:37:04 GMT 2002 akm@orchid.theinternet.com.au:/usr/src/sys/sparc64/compile/orchid Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc038a000. Timecounter "tick" frequency 269795812 Hz cpu0: Sun Microsystems UltraSparc-IIi Processor (269.80 MHZ CPU) nexus0: pcib0: on nexus0 pcib0: SUNW,sabre: impl 0, version 0: ign 7c0 bus range 0 to 2; PCI bus 0 DVMA map: 0xc0000000 to 0xdfffffff pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: descending to subordinate PCI bus pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: no interrupt mapping found for 1/1/0 (preset 0) pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: mapping intr for 1/1/1 to 33 (preset was 0) pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: mapping intr for 1/2/0 to 15 (preset was 15) pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: mapping intr for 1/3/0 to 32 (preset was 14) pcib0: ofw_pci_init_intr: descending to subordinate PCI bus pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 1.1 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 ebus0: revision 0x01 ebus0: mem 0xf1000000-0xf17fffff,0xf0000000-0xf0ffffff at device 1.0 on pci2 ebus0: addr 0x140072f000-0x140072f003,0x140072c000-0x140072c003,0x140072a000-0x140072a003,0x1400728000-0x1400728003,0x1400726000-0x1400726003 (no driver attached) ebus0: addr 0x1400724000-0x1400724003 irq 37 (no driver attached) ebus0: addr 0x1400504000-0x1400504002 (no driver attached) ebus0: addr 0x1400400000-0x140040007f irq 43 (no driver attached) ebus0: addr 0x14003083f8-0x14003083ff irq 41 (no driver attached) ebus0: addr 0x14003062f8-0x14003062ff irq 42 (no driver attached) ebus0: addr 0x1400700000-0x140070000f,0x140030015c-0x140030015d,0x14003043bc-0x14003043cb irq 34 (no driver attached) ebus0: addr 0x1400720000-0x1400720003,0x1400706000-0x140070600f,0x14003023f0-0x14003023f7 irq 39 (no driver attached) eeprom0: addr 0x1400000000-0x1400001fff on ebus0 eeprom0: model mk48t59 eeprom0: hostid 808e84c0 ebus0: addr 0x1000000000-0x10000fffff (no driver attached) ebus0: addr 0x1400722000-0x1400722003,0x1400704000-0x140070400f,0x1400702000-0x140070200f,0x1400200000-0x14002000ff irq 36,35 (no driver attached) hme0: mem 0xe0000000-0xe0007fff irq 33 at device 1.1 on pci2 hme0: Ethernet address: 08:00:20:8e:84:c0 miibus0: on hme0 nsphy0: on miibus0 nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci2: at device 2.0 (no driver attached) atapci0: port 0xc00020-0xc0002f,0xc00018-0xc0001b,0xc00010-0xc00017,0xc00008-0xc0000b,0xc00000-0xc00007 irq 32 at device 3.0 on pci2 ata2: at 0xc00000 on atapci0 ata3: at 0xc00010 on atapci0 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec ad0: 4103MB [8894/15/63] at ata2-master WDMA2 acd0: CDROM at ata3-master PIO4 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0c -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| | Andrew Milton The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | M:+61 416 022 411 | ACN: 082 081 472 ABN: 83 082 081 472 |akm@theinternet.com.au| Carpe Daemon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Jun 13 1:56:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from theinternet.com.au (c16543.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [210.49.135.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C52437B40E for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from akm@localhost) by theinternet.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.4) id g5D8qsD50127; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:52:54 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from akm) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:52:54 +1000 From: Andrew Kenneth Milton To: Andrew Kenneth Milton Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird PCI interface Message-ID: <20020613185253.H44400@zeus.theinternet.com.au> References: <20020613020923.C44400@zeus.theinternet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020613020923.C44400@zeus.theinternet.com.au>; from akm@theinternet.com.au on Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 02:09:23AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org +-------[ Andrew Kenneth Milton ]---------------------- | I was playing with some stuff to muck with the video card on the sun5 | I have. | | dmesg shows; | pci2: at device 2.0 (no driver attached) I did a boot -v, and I think it shows the actual problem... PCI_* stuff is returning the physical bus number in the PCI selector, but, actually uses the logical bus number when trying to access the devices. I'm not sure which is correct scenario, whether it should return the logical bus in the selector, or whether it should use physical bus when looking up the device. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ pci0: physical bus=0 found-> vendor=0x108e, dev=0x5000, revid=0x11 bus=0, slot=1, func=0 class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=1 found-> vendor=0x108e, dev=0x5000, revid=0x11 bus=0, slot=1, func=1 class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=1 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pcib1: secondary bus 2 pcib1: subordinate bus 255 pcib1: I/O decode 0x0-0x1fffff, 0x200000-0x3fffff, 0x400000-0x5fffff, 0 x600000-0x7fffff, 0x800000-0x9fffff, 0xa00000-0xbfffff pcib1: memory decode 0x0-0x1fffffff, 0x20000000-0x3fffffff, 0x40000000-0x5 fffffff, 0x60000000-0x7fffffff, 0x80000000-0x9fffffff, 0xa0000000-0xbfffffff pci1: physical bus=2 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 1.1 on pci0 pcib2: secondary bus 1 pcib2: subordinate bus 1 pcib2: I/O decode 0xc00000-0xdfffff, 0xe00000-0xffffff pcib2: memory decode 0xe0000000-0xffffffff pci2: physical bus=1 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base f0000000, size 24, enabled map[14]: type 1, range 32, base f1000000, size 23, enabled found-> vendor=0x108e, dev=0x1000, revid=0x01 bus=1, slot=1, func=0 class=06-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base e0000000, size 15, memory disabled found-> vendor=0x108e, dev=0x1001, revid=0x01 bus=1, slot=1, func=1 class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 intpin=a, irq=33 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base e1000000, size 24, memory disabled map[14]: type 4, range 32, base 00000000, size 8, port disabled found-> vendor=0x1002, dev=0x4754, revid=0x9a bus=1, slot=2, func=0 class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 intpin=a, irq=15 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 00c00000, size 3, enabled map[14]: type 4, range 32, base 00c00008, size 2, enabled map[18]: type 4, range 32, base 00c00010, size 3, enabled map[1c]: type 4, range 32, base 00c00018, size 2, enabled map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 00c00020, size 4, enabled found-> vendor=0x1095, dev=0x0646, revid=0x03 bus=1, slot=3, func=0 class=01-01-8f, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 intpin=a, irq=32 pci2: on pcib2 -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| | Andrew Milton The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | M:+61 416 022 411 | ACN: 082 081 472 ABN: 83 082 081 472 |akm@theinternet.com.au| Carpe Daemon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Jun 13 7:45: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from k6.locore.ca (k6.locore.ca [198.96.117.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047A137B410 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jake@localhost) by k6.locore.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g5DEl2d08869; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:47:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jake) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:47:02 -0400 From: Jake Burkholder To: Andrew Kenneth Milton Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird PCI interface Message-ID: <20020613104702.B257@locore.ca> References: <20020613020923.C44400@zeus.theinternet.com.au> <20020613185253.H44400@zeus.theinternet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020613185253.H44400@zeus.theinternet.com.au>; from akm@theinternet.com.au on Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 06:52:54PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Apparently, On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 06:52:54PM +1000, Andrew Kenneth Milton said words to the effect of; > +-------[ Andrew Kenneth Milton ]---------------------- > | I was playing with some stuff to muck with the video card on the sun5 > | I have. > | > | dmesg shows; > | pci2: at device 2.0 (no driver attached) > > I did a boot -v, and I think it shows the actual problem... > > PCI_* stuff is returning the physical bus number in the PCI selector, > but, actually uses the logical bus number when trying to access the > devices. > > I'm not sure which is correct scenario, whether it should return the > logical bus in the selector, or whether it should use physical bus when > looking up the device. Hmm. Thanks for looking at this. I don't know much about PCI so I can't be of much help... tmm is very busy right now with university but he said he had a break coming up soon, so he may be able to help you figure out what's going on then. Keep digging is all I can suggest. Jake > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > pci0: physical bus=0 > found-> vendor=0x108e, dev=0x5000, revid=0x11 > bus=0, slot=1, func=0 > class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=1 > found-> vendor=0x108e, dev=0x5000, revid=0x11 > bus=0, slot=1, func=1 > class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=1 > pci0: on pcib0 > pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 > pcib1: secondary bus 2 > pcib1: subordinate bus 255 > pcib1: I/O decode 0x0-0x1fffff, 0x200000-0x3fffff, 0x400000-0x5fffff, 0 > x600000-0x7fffff, 0x800000-0x9fffff, 0xa00000-0xbfffff > pcib1: memory decode 0x0-0x1fffffff, 0x20000000-0x3fffffff, 0x40000000-0x5 > fffffff, 0x60000000-0x7fffffff, 0x80000000-0x9fffffff, 0xa0000000-0xbfffffff > pci1: physical bus=2 > pci1: on pcib1 > pcib2: at device 1.1 on pci0 > pcib2: secondary bus 1 > pcib2: subordinate bus 1 > pcib2: I/O decode 0xc00000-0xdfffff, 0xe00000-0xffffff > pcib2: memory decode 0xe0000000-0xffffffff > pci2: physical bus=1 > map[10]: type 1, range 32, base f0000000, size 24, enabled > map[14]: type 1, range 32, base f1000000, size 23, enabled > found-> vendor=0x108e, dev=0x1000, revid=0x01 > bus=1, slot=1, func=0 > class=06-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 > map[10]: type 1, range 32, base e0000000, size 15, memory disabled > found-> vendor=0x108e, dev=0x1001, revid=0x01 > bus=1, slot=1, func=1 > class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 > intpin=a, irq=33 > map[10]: type 1, range 32, base e1000000, size 24, memory disabled > map[14]: type 4, range 32, base 00000000, size 8, port disabled > found-> vendor=0x1002, dev=0x4754, revid=0x9a > bus=1, slot=2, func=0 > class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 > intpin=a, irq=15 > map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 00c00000, size 3, enabled > map[14]: type 4, range 32, base 00c00008, size 2, enabled > map[18]: type 4, range 32, base 00c00010, size 3, enabled > map[1c]: type 4, range 32, base 00c00018, size 2, enabled > map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 00c00020, size 4, enabled > found-> vendor=0x1095, dev=0x0646, revid=0x03 > bus=1, slot=3, func=0 > class=01-01-8f, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 > intpin=a, irq=32 > pci2: on pcib2 > > > -- > Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| | Andrew Milton > The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | M:+61 416 022 411 | > ACN: 082 081 472 ABN: 83 082 081 472 |akm@theinternet.com.au| Carpe Daemon > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Jun 13 7:58:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from theinternet.com.au (c16543.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [210.49.135.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE28037B42B for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from akm@localhost) by theinternet.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.4) id g5DEwEF51461; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 00:58:14 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from akm) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 00:58:14 +1000 From: Andrew Kenneth Milton To: Jake Burkholder Cc: Andrew Kenneth Milton , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird PCI interface Message-ID: <20020614005814.M44400@zeus.theinternet.com.au> References: <20020613020923.C44400@zeus.theinternet.com.au> <20020613185253.H44400@zeus.theinternet.com.au> <20020613104702.B257@locore.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020613104702.B257@locore.ca>; from jake@locore.ca on Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 10:47:02AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org +-------[ Jake Burkholder ]---------------------- | | > I'm not sure which is correct scenario, whether it should return the | > logical bus in the selector, or whether it should use physical bus when | > looking up the device. | | Hmm. Thanks for looking at this. I don't know much about PCI so | I can't be of much help... tmm is very busy right now with | university but he said he had a break coming up soon, so he may | be able to help you figure out what's going on then. | | Keep digging is all I can suggest. It looks like it'll hit all platforms that have the buses probed out of order, so at this point it looks more than just Sparc related. I don't have any other multi-bus machines to test that theory on though. I might post a general question to -current later if I can't make any head way. -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| | Andrew Milton The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | M:+61 416 022 411 | ACN: 082 081 472 ABN: 83 082 081 472 |akm@theinternet.com.au| Carpe Daemon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Jun 13 8:34:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C327937B420 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 08:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8168 invoked by uid 0); 13 Jun 2002 15:34:33 -0000 Received: from pd9e16ba2.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO forge.local) (217.225.107.162) by mail.gmx.net (mp009-rz3) with SMTP; 13 Jun 2002 15:34:33 -0000 Received: from tmm by forge.local with local (Exim 3.36 #1) id 17IWch-0001Eg-00; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 17:34:55 +0200 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 17:34:55 +0200 From: Thomas Moestl To: Andrew Kenneth Milton Cc: Jake Burkholder , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird PCI interface Message-ID: <20020613153455.GA312@crow.dom2ip.de> Mail-Followup-To: Andrew Kenneth Milton , Jake Burkholder , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020613020923.C44400@zeus.theinternet.com.au> <20020613185253.H44400@zeus.theinternet.com.au> <20020613104702.B257@locore.ca> <20020614005814.M44400@zeus.theinternet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020614005814.M44400@zeus.theinternet.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.99i Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 2002/06/14 at 00:58:14 +1000, Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote: > +-------[ Jake Burkholder ]---------------------- > | > | > I'm not sure which is correct scenario, whether it should return the > | > logical bus in the selector, or whether it should use physical bus when > | > looking up the device. > | > | Hmm. Thanks for looking at this. I don't know much about PCI so > | I can't be of much help... tmm is very busy right now with > | university but he said he had a break coming up soon, so he may > | be able to help you figure out what's going on then. > | > | Keep digging is all I can suggest. > > It looks like it'll hit all platforms that have the buses probed out of > order, so at this point it looks more than just Sparc related. I don't have > any other multi-bus machines to test that theory on though. Yes, this is caused by the MI PCI ioctl code using the following code to get the bus device structure: pci = devclass_get_device(devclass_find("pci"), io->pi_sel.pc_bus); where devclass_get_device() retrieves by logical (i.e. device) number. I have committed some code yesterday that adds bus enumeration to the MD PCI code (previously, the bus numbers set by the firmware would be used, which were not initialized correctly on some machines). This may work around the problem for you, so I suggest trying a newer kernel for now (there are however still some cases in which this will not help). I'll start to work on a real fix for this. - thomas -- Thomas Moestl http://www.tu-bs.de/~y0015675/ http://people.FreeBSD.org/~tmm/ PGP fingerprint: 1C97 A604 2BD0 E492 51D0 9C0F 1FE6 4F1D 419C 776C To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Jun 14 2:55:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from theinternet.com.au (c16543.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [210.49.135.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C7637B41B for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 02:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from akm@localhost) by theinternet.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.4) id g5E9swd55892; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 19:54:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from akm) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 19:54:58 +1000 From: Andrew Kenneth Milton To: Thomas Moestl Cc: Andrew Kenneth Milton , Jake Burkholder , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird PCI interface Message-ID: <20020614195457.S44400@zeus.theinternet.com.au> References: <20020613020923.C44400@zeus.theinternet.com.au> <20020613185253.H44400@zeus.theinternet.com.au> <20020613104702.B257@locore.ca> <20020614005814.M44400@zeus.theinternet.com.au> <20020613153455.GA312@crow.dom2ip.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020613153455.GA312@crow.dom2ip.de>; from tmoestl@gmx.net on Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 05:34:55PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org +-------[ Thomas Moestl ]---------------------- | | I have committed some code yesterday that adds bus enumeration to the | MD PCI code (previously, the bus numbers set by the firmware would be | used, which were not initialized correctly on some machines). This may | work around the problem for you, so I suggest trying a newer kernel | for now (there are however still some cases in which this will not | help). Do I have to specify any special kernel options to enable this? It doesn't seem to be helping out of the box at least, of course I could have the pathalogical hardware it doesn't help with d8) -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| | Andrew Milton The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | M:+61 416 022 411 | ACN: 082 081 472 ABN: 83 082 081 472 |akm@theinternet.com.au| Carpe Daemon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Jun 15 8:24:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from arcor.de (ACB1BCC7.ipt.aol.com [172.177.188.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C379937B416 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 08:18:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "todschick38259@arcor.de" To: Subject: Entschuldigen Sie bitte die Störung! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:19:12 +0200 Reply-To: "todschick38259@arcor.de" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020615151854.C379937B416@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Entschuldigen Sie bitte die Störung! Mir ist etwas zu Ohren gekommen. Eine relativ aussergewöhnliche Gerüchteküche, aus der man mir ein schwerverdauliches Süppchen vorgesetzt hat, ist der Grund meiner Mail. Unappetitlich ist gar kein Ausdruck! Ist es möglich auf funktechnischem Wege(in welchen Frequenzbereichen?) jemanden zu beeinflussen oder zu manipulieren? Oder sogar zu schikanieren und terrorisieren? Unter dem Motto:"Einen am Sender?Nich ganz alleine? Kleine Mannim Ohr?Falsche Wellenlänge?Bohnen in den Ohren? Auf den Zahn gefühlt(Amalgam)?Mal unverbindlich reinhören? Der Pullacher Wanzentanz? Ist das Spinnerei?Das geht doch gar nicht,oder? Und wenn wie sieht das ethisch moralisch aus? Zur technischen Seite der Sache gibt es zwar Berichte und Webseiten: Totalitaer,de - Die Waffe gegen die Kritik http://www.fosar-bludorf.com/Tempelhof/ http://jya.com/haarp.htm http://www.zeitenschrift.at/magazin/zs_24_15/1_mikrowaffen.htm http://www.bse-plus.de/d/doc/lbrief/lbmincontr.htm http://home.nexgo.de/kraven/bigb/big3.html http://w3.nrl.navy.mil/projects/haarp/index.html http://cryptome.org/ http://www.parascope.com/ds/mkultra0.htm http://www.trufax.org/menu/mind.html http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html http://mindcontrolforum.com/ http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html usw. usw. usw. ,aber,das kann doch nicht sein,das soetwas gemacht wird,oder? Eine Menschenrechtsverletzung sonder gleichen!?! Ist es möglich,durch Präparation,der Ohren und im Zusammenspiel mit eventuell vorhandenem Zahnersatz? Mit relativ einfacher Funktechnik?? In diesem Land?Hier und heute??? Unter welchen Motiven? Wo ist eigentlich die Abteilung 5 des BND und des Verfassungsschutzes? Kann es sein,daß es Leute gibt,die dem BND/Verfassungsschutz,auf funktechnischem Wege permanent einen Situationsbericht abliefern,ohne es selbst zu merken,im Kindesalter machbar gemacht?? Werden durch solche inoffiziellen Mitarbeiter,beim BND und Verfassungsschutz,nach Stasimanier, Informationen von und über,rein theoretisch, jeden Bundesbürger,gesammelt? Gibt es dann noch ein Recht auf Privatsphere? Wer kontrolliert eigentlich den BND,MAD und Verfassungsschutz auf Unterwanderung??? In der Mail geht es mir eigentlich um die Frage,ob es kriminellen Elementen, aus dem Motiv der Bereicherung,oder Gruppierungen aus ideologischen Motiven, möglich ist ,sich Wissen und Technik anzueignen,die zu anderen Zeiten, aus anderen Motiven(Westfernsehen?),entwickelt wurde. Und stellt der technische Wissensstand, der der Allgemeinheit bekannt ist wirklich das Ende der Fahnenstange dar? Ist es denn nicht kriminellen Elementen genauso möglich, ich sage das jetzt mal verharmlost und verniedlichend, einzelne Personen oder Gruppen mit relativ einfachen Mitteln, aus welchen Motiven auch immer, auszuspionieren? Und stellt diese "Ausspioniererei" nicht einen erheblichen Eingriff in die Privatsphäre dar? Ist es möglich einzelne Personen oder Gruppen, eine Akzeptans einer gewissen Öffentlichkeit(suggeriert?), die z.B. mit Hilfe von Internetseiten,wie zum Beispiel dem "Pranger"geschaffen werden könnte, mal vorausgestzt,zu terroriesieren und oder zu schikanieren, und das in aller (suggerierten)Öffentlichkeit?Haben die Leute die da am Pranger, oder auf irgendeiner anderen Seite verunglimpft,oder gar Verleumdet werden, eigentlich eine Chance zur Gegenöffentlichkeit?Ist das nicht Rufmord? Vor einigen Jahren bin ich per Zufall auf die Seite "Der Pranger" gestoßen, damals lief das noch nicht unter dem Deckmantel der Partnervermittlung. Können sich einzelne Personen,oder Interessengemeinschaften, aus reinem Selbstzweck,solcher Seiten bedienen, um unter dem Deckmantel einer fragwürdigen Zivilkourage, durch anzetteln irgendwelcher Hetzkampagnen,eigene, ganz persöhnliche Interessen durchsetzen? Können solche Seiten zur Koordination von kriminellen machenschaften dienen? Die Frage,ist es Möglichkeit oder Unmöglichkeit,technisch und gesellschaftlich, einzelne Personen,oder auch Gruppierungen,aus einer kriminellen/ideologischen Energei heraus,zu manipulieren oder zu beeinflussen,terrorisieren oder zu schickanieren,und zwar gezielt. Zielgruppenmanipulation durch Massenmedien sind alltägliche Manipulation, der mansich,mehr oder weniger,entziehen kann. Wird das Recht auf Privatsphäre,schleichend,tiefenpsychologisch, durch Sendungen,wie,zum Beispiel "Big brother",untergraben? Sollte bei einem der Angemailten ein gewisser Wissensstand zum Thema vorhanden sein, wäre ich über Hinweise zum Thema froh. Auf der Suche nach Antworten auf meine Fragen maile ich verschiedene Adressen aus dem Internet an, und hoffe aufkonstruktive Antworten und Kritiken. Über einen Besuch auf der Seite würde ich mich freuen. Sollten Sie von mir mehrfach angeschrieben worden sein,so bitte ich Sie,mir dies zu entschuldigen, das war nicht beabsichtigt. Der Grund für meine Anonymität ist die Tatsache, daß bei derlei Fragenstellerei, verständlicherweise,schnell der Ruf nach der Psychatrie laut wird. Was auch Methode hat(ist). Sollten Sie die Mail als Belästigung empfinden, möchte ich mich hiermit dafür entschuldigen! Big brother is watching you? Excuse please the disturbance! Me something came to ears. A relatively unusual rumor kitchen, from which one put forward to me a heavydigestible soup, is the reason of my Mail. Unappetizing is no printout! Is it possible on radio Wege(in for which frequency ranges?) to influence or manipulate someone? Terrorize or to even chicane and? Under the Motto:"Einen at the Sender?Nich quite alone? Small Mannim Ohr?Fal Wellenlaenge?Bohnen in the ears? On the tooth clean-hear gefuehlt(Amalgam)?Mal witthout obligation? The Pullacher bug wanzentanz? Isn't the Spinnerei?Das goes nevertheless at all, or? And if as looks ethicalally morally? For the technical page of the thing there is to report and web page: Totalitaer,de - Die Waffe gegen die Kritik http://www.fosar-bludorf.com/Tempelhof/ http://jya.com/haarp.htm http://www.zeitenschrift.at/magazin/zs_24_15/1_mikrowaffen.htm http://www.bse-plus.de/d/doc/lbrief/lbmincontr.htm http://home.nexgo.de/kraven/bigb/big3.html http://w3.nrl.navy.mil/projects/haarp/index.html http://cryptome.org/ http://www.parascope.com/ds/mkultra0.htm http://www.trufax.org/menu/mind.html http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html http://mindcontrolforum.com/ http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html usw. usw. usw. but, that cannot be nevertheless, which is made soetwas, or? A violation of human rights resemble special!?! Is it possible, by preparation, the ears and in interaction with possibly available artificial dentures? With relatively simple radio engineering?? In this Land?Hier and today??? Under which motives? Where is the department actually 5 of the BND and the protection of the constitution? Can it be that there are people, which deliver the Federal Intelligence Service/protection of the constitution, on radio way permanently a situation report, without noticing it, in the infancy feasiblly made? By such unofficial coworkers, with the BND and protection of the constitution, after Stasimanier, is information collected of and over,purely theoretically, each Federal citizen? Is there then still another right to Privatsphere? Who actually checks the BND, WAD and protection of the constitution for infiltration??? Into the Mail actually concerns it to me the question whether it criminal items, from which motive of enriching, or groupings from ideological motives is possible, to acquire itself knowledge and technique which were developed at other times, from other Motiven(Westfernsehen?).And does the technical knowledge status place, to that the public admits is really the end of the flag bar? Is it not to criminal items just as possible, I legend that now times played down and does nice-end, individual persons or groups with relatively simple means, to spy from whatever motives always? And doesn't this " Ausspioniererei " represent a substantial intervention into the privatsphaere? It is possible individual persons or groups, one acceptance to of a certain Oeffentlichkeit(suggeriert?), e.g. by Internet pages, how for example the " Pranger"geschaffen could become, times vorausgestzt, to terroriesieren and or chicane, and in everything (the people suggerierten)Oeffentlichkeit?Haben there at the Pranger, or on any other page to be reviled, or slandered, actually a chance to the Gegenoeffentlichkeit?Ist that not character assassination? Some years ago I am by coincidence the page " the Pranger " encountered, at that time ran not yet under the cover of the partner switching.Itself can individual persons, or communities of interests, from pure self purpose, such pages to serve, over under the cover of a doubtful Zivilkourage, through plot any rushing campaigns, own, quite persoehnliche interests to intersperse? Can such pages serve for the co-ordination of criminal machinations? The question, is it possibility or impossibility, technically and socially, individual persons, or also groupings of manipulating or of influencing from an criminal/ideological Energei, terrorizes or to schickanieren, directed.Target group manipulation by mass media are everyday manipulation, from which, more or less, can extract itself. Does the right to privatsphaere, creeping, by transmissions become deep psychological, how, for example " Big undermine brother"? If the Angemailten should be available a certain knowledge status to the topic with one, I would be glad over notes to the topic On the search for responses to my questions maile I different addresses from the Internet on, and hope up-constructional responses and criticisms.Over an attendance on the page wuerde I are pleased.If you should have been written down by me several times, then please I you to excuse me this that was not intended. The reason for my anonymity is the fact that with such Fragenstellerei, understandably, fast after the call the Psychatrie loud becomes. Which also method hat(ist). If you should feel the Mail as annoyance, I would like to apologize hereby for it! Big is watching you? Veuillez excuser le dérangement! Moi quelque chose concernant des oreilles est venu. Une cuisine de bruit relativement inhabituelle, dont on m'a placé un Sueppchen schwerverdauliches devant, est la raison de mes Mail.Aucune expression n'est peu appétissante! Il est possible sur un Wege(in funktechnischem pour quelles réponses fréquentielles?) quelqu'un influencer ou manipuler? Ou même schikanieren et terroriser? Sous le Motto:"Einen au Sender?Nich tout à fait seulement? Petits Mannim Ohr?Falsche Wellenlaenge?Bohnen dans les oreilles? Sur la dent gefuehlt(Amalgam)?Mal non contraignant reinhoeren? Le Pullacher Wanzentanz? Le Spinnerei?Das n'est-il quand même pas du tout va, ou? Et si comme cela paraît éthiquement moralement? Au côté technique de la chose, il y a certes des rapports et des Webseiten: Totalitaer,de - Die Waffe gegen die Kritik http://www.fosar-bludorf.com/Tempelhof/ http://jya.com/haarp.htm http://www.zeitenschrift.at/magazin/zs_24_15/1_mikrowaffen.htm http://www.bse-plus.de/d/doc/lbrief/lbmincontr.htm http://home.nexgo.de/kraven/bigb/big3.html http://w3.nrl.navy.mil/projects/haarp/index.html http://cryptome.org/ http://www.parascope.com/ds/mkultra0.htm http://www.trufax.org/menu/mind.html http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html http://mindcontrolforum.com/ http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html usw. usw. usw. toutefois qui ne peut quand même pas être qui on fait soetwas, ou? Une violation des droits de l'homme séparer ressembler!?! Il est possible, par la préparation, des oreilles et dans l'effet avec la prothèse dentaire éventuellement existante? Avec la technique de radio relativement simple?? Dans ce Land?Hier et aujourd'hui Sous quels motifs? Où le département est-il en réalité 5 du BND et de la protection d'constitution? peut il être qu'il y a les personnes qui livrent en permanence le BND/Verfassungsschutz, de manière funktechnischem un rapport de situation, sans le remarquer le -même , dans l'enfance rendu possible?? Par de tels collaborateurs officieux, avec le BND et la protection d'constitution, après manière, des informations sont-elles rassemblées et plus de, purement théoriquement, chaque citoyen allemand? Il y a alors encore un droit à des Privatsphere? Qui contrôle en réalité le BND, mad et protection d'constitution sur une infiltration??? Il s'agit en réalité dans le Mail me la question de savoir si lui éléments criminels, dont le motif de l'enrichissement, ou de groupements des motifs idéologiques, possible de s'acquérir le savoir et la technique qui à d'autres temps, est autre MotivenEt place-t-il le savoir technique dont le public vraiment la fin la barre de drapeau a connaissance ? Il n'est pas donc exactement la même chose possible pour des éléments criminels, moi cela maintenant fois verharmlost et minimisant une légende, personnes ou groupes particuliers avec des moyens relativement simples, de quels motifs aussi toujours, auszuspionieren?(Westfernsehen?), a été développé. Et ce "Ausspioniererei" ne représente-t-il pas une intervention considérable dans la vie privée? Il est possible personnes ou groupes particuliers, pour certain Oeffentlichkeit(suggeriert?), celui p. ex. à l'aide des côtés Internet, comme par exemple "le Pranger"geschaffen pourrait, fois vorausgestzt schikanieren terroriesieren et ou , et qui toute (suggerierten)Oeffentlichkeit?Haben les personnes ceux là, ou d'un autre côté verunglimpft, ou on ne pas calomnie, en réalité une chance au Gegenoeffentlichkeit?Ist qui meurtre d'appel? Il y a quelques années, je ne suis pas encore par hasard sur le côté "celui" poussé, fonctionnais alors cela sous la couche de pont de l'entremise partenaire. Des personnes particulières, ou des communautés d'intérêts le peuventelles, d'un autobut pur, de tels côtés servent, sous la couche de pont d'un Zivilkourage douteux, tracent plus de des campagnes de précipitation, propres intérêts tout à fait persoehnliche entremêlent? De tels côtés peuvent-ils servir à la coordination des manoeuvres criminelles? Question, est lui possibilité ou impossibilité de manipuler ou d'influencer techniquement et socialement, particulière personnes, ou aussi groupements, criminelle/ponctuel idéologique Energei dehors, , terroriser ou schickanieren, et ce.Une manipulation de groupe cible par des masse-médias être la manipulation quotidienne qui peut extraire mansich, plus ou moins. Le droit à la vie privée est-il miné, ramment, tiefenpsychologisch, par des envois, comme, par exemple "des Big brother"? Avec un les Angemailten si un certain savoir devait exister sur le thème, je serais heureux sur des indications sur le thème.Sur la recherche des réponses à mes questions je différentes adresses maile d'Internet dessus, et espère réponses et critiques aufkonstruktive. Sur une visite du côté http://hometown.aol.de/reinerhohn38259/homepage/index.html> je me réjouirais. Si vous deviez avoir été écrit à différentes reprises par moi, je vous demande de m'excuser cela qui n'était pas envisagé. La raison de mon anonymat est le fait qu'avec telle des Fragenstellerei, l'appel devient ce qui est bien compréhensible, rapidement bruyant après le Psychatrie. Ce que la méthode a également (ist). Si vous deviez ressentir les Mail comme un ennui, je voudrais m'excuser par ceci pour cela! Big brother is watching you? Könnte mir jemand bei der korrekten Überstzung helfen? Could someone help me with the correct translation? Quelqu'un pourrait-il m'aider lors du Ueberstzung correct? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Jun 15 8:39:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from sqeezer.net (pD9526E48.dip.t-dialin.net [217.82.110.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DB837B430 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 08:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majestix.sqeezer.net ([192.168.0.2]) by sqeezer.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 17JFeR-0000fW-00 for freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:39:44 +0200 Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:39:50 +0200 From: Dirk Beckmann To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 13W3 to VGA Message-Id: <20020615173950.739c7597.dirk@sqeezer.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, i'm having problems connecting my sparcstation 20 to a regular VGA-monitor, i bought a special connector (13W3 male ----> SUB-D 15 female) which fits perfekt. But i cannot get any picture/video signal from the SS20. - has anybody the correct pin connections for a 13W3-->VGA cable? - i tried different monitors, 15" TFT, reg. 19" and 21" (ADI Microscan), do i need any "special" features to solve my problem? Thanx! Dirk Beckmann (Sorry for my bad english) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message