From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 22 3:38:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A466337B401; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 03:38:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.kolej.mff.cuni.cz (smtp.kolej.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.25.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8AD743ED8; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 03:38:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@obluda.cz) X-Envelope-From: dan@obluda.cz Received: from obluda.cz (dan.kolej.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.21.110]) by smtp.kolej.mff.cuni.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBMBcKr32369; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 12:38:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dan@obluda.cz) Message-ID: <3E05A429.7080506@obluda.cz> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 12:38:17 +0100 From: Dan Lukes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021106 X-Accept-Language: cs MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hiten Pandya Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, dcs@newsguy.com Subject: Re: VLAN v.s. NIC with VLAN hardware support bug. References: <3E038A1A.6070203@obluda.cz> <3E03A86C.6D15F650@newsguy.com> <3E03C706.5060508@obluda.cz> <20021221233424.GA23657@unixdaemons.com> In-Reply-To: <3E038A1A.6070203@obluda.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hiten Pandya wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 02:42:30AM +0100, Dan Lukes wrote the words in > effect of: > > Dan, I believe you submitted a PR about this [1], what does patch try to > solve, regarding VLAN hardware support? > > [1] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/46405 Hi. May be, I'm doesn't understand fully what you are asked for - my english isn't as good as should be. The problem: NIC with hardware VLAN support pass whole TAG to vlan_input(_tag). The TAG has the following structure: TAG & 0x8000 -> CFI (TAG & 0x7000)>>13 -> priority TAG & 0x0FFF -> VLAN ID The vlan_input(_tag) doesn't extract the VLAN ID from tag, it tried match the whole tag to configured VLAN's. It work - unless CFI or an priority bit has nonzero value. An example: you have configured VLAN 256 on your FreeBSD. The arrived packed has TAG 0x0100 (=256). For this packet it works, as TAG matched configured VLAN. Lets another packet has TAG 0x4100 (=16640). It's dropped because there are no configured vlan with ID 16640 - but should not be dropped, as it IS packed for VLAN 256 with priority 4. In short - vlan_input(_tag) doesn't extract the correct bits from TAG, so it drop packets that shouldn't be dropped. It's the bug fixed by my patches. I tested it on 4.7. The patch for CURRENT isn't tested, but it's simple to analyse that there are the same problem. It's the sufficient answer to your question ? Please note (it's mentioned in my PR also), the vlan code doesn't correctly handle the VLAN ID of "zero" which has special meaning . My patches doesn't solve it. Dan -- Dan Lukes tel: +420 2 21914205, fax: +420 2 21914206 root of FIONet, KolejNET, webmaster of www.freebsd.cz AKA: dan@obluda.cz, dan@freebsd.cz, dan@kolej.mff.cuni.cz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 22 4:11: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0085637B401 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 04:10:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailb.telia.com (mailb.telia.com [194.22.194.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E679243EDA for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 04:10:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from home@jukkis.net) Received: from d1o989.telia.com (d1o989.telia.com [213.65.228.241]) by mailb.telia.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBMCApih002751; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 13:10:51 +0100 (CET) X-Original-Recipient: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from sjukebox.js.serverbox.org (h152n2fls32o989.telia.com [217.208.125.152]) by d1o989.telia.com (8.10.2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id gBMCAoK19041; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 13:10:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Writing to ISO-images mounted as vnodes? From: Jukka Simila To: dalroi@solfertje.student.utwente.nl Cc: Edwin Groothuis , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20021221220646.GW930@k7.mavetju> References: <20021221212903.0B80E380@solfertje.student.utwente.nl> <20021221220646.GW930@k7.mavetju> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Jukkis.net Message-Id: <1040559116.380.10.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 22 Dec 2002 13:11:56 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 2002-12-21 at 23:06, Edwin Groothuis wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 10:13:10PM +0100, dalroi@solfertje.student.utwente.nl wrote: > > While I was thinking how to make a bootable DOS-CD (the floppies for > > sale now just aren't as reliable as they used to be), I thought of the > > following strategy: > > > > - copy the ISO-image of my Win98 install-CD (AFAIK that's legal if you > > own the CD). > > - configure the image as a vnode (vnconfig). > > - mount the vnode (mount_cd9660). > > - remove the files that are not needed (the ones that install Win98) > > from the mounted vnode; just leaving a DOS boot-CD with just a little > > more useful utilities than would fit on a floppy... > > > > Unfortunately, mounting the vnode as cd9660 mounts it read-only, and > > I couldn't find a way to mount it "rw" (-o rw doesn't seem to help). > > I was thinking about something similair a couple of weeks ago, to > make it easy for me to arrange files on a cdrom ISO image. Unfortunatly > the write-routines for the cd9660 driver are non-existent. > > Did sound nice, just create a 650Mb file, mount it, copy some files > into it, unmount it and ready to burn. > > Edwin What about the UDF support for FBSD? I really don't know what's the status of that, but somehow I'd think it would be more sensible to create an udf file instead of cd9660 - if I've understood correctly, udf should support packet *writing* - therefore the random writing to a file should be possible in some phase, right? Just an idea that popped into my mind - someone else will need to polish it :) Regards //Jukkis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 22 8: 1:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD4037B405; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 08:01:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from grosbein.pp.ru (D00015.dialonly.kemerovo.su [213.184.66.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A7343EE6; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 08:01:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.pp.ru) Received: from grosbein.pp.ru (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grosbein.pp.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBMG1WrY000559; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 23:01:32 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.pp.ru) Received: (from eugen@localhost) by grosbein.pp.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBMG0cUs000541; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 23:00:38 +0700 (KRAT) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 23:00:38 +0700 From: Eugene Grosbein To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: small@freebsd.org Subject: 4.7-STABLE on HP Omnibook 5000C: /etc/rc does not start Message-ID: <20021222230038.A243@grosbein.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I've got HP Omnibook 5000C notebook with Pentium90/16Mb RAM and trying to install FreeBSD. I have no pccards so plan to make bootable floppy, establish PPP over serial with my desctop running FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE on Celeron-900 and in run installworld over NFS. I did that many times with desktop machines without a problem. So I've build custom PicoBSD and tried to boot it. Pico uses stock init(8), not oinit. Kernel boots fine, detects all devices and tries to run /sbin/init and hangs. The same floppy boots to multiuser on my Celeron-900E. I've MAXMEM="(16*1024)" in Pico's kernel so it must be not memory problem. Btw, the notebook runs Windows 95 currently and successfully establishes ether PPP or SLIP connection with my desktop. I've added some printf's to the kernel and see that kick_init() (src/sys/kern/init_main.c) is really invoked and execve() inside start_main() does return without an error (error==0) so start_init return happy. Here I'm stuck. I've also DDB in a kernel but don't know how to use it for remote debugging. Please help! Eugene Grosbein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 22 8:35:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B01037B401 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 08:35:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic.adaptec.com [208.236.45.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE30943ED8 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 08:35:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scott_long@btc.adaptec.com) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11]) by magic.adaptec.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBMGVqj28052; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 08:31:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com (btc.btc.adaptec.com [10.100.0.52]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22641; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 08:31:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from btc.adaptec.com (hollin [10.100.253.56]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01148; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 09:31:41 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3E05E9EF.5050503@btc.adaptec.com> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 09:35:59 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021125 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jukka Simila Cc: dalroi@solfertje.student.utwente.nl, Edwin Groothuis , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Writing to ISO-images mounted as vnodes? References: <20021221212903.0B80E380@solfertje.student.utwente.nl> <20021221220646.GW930@k7.mavetju> <1040559116.380.10.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20021221212903.0B80E380@solfertje.student.utwente.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jukka Simila wrote: > On Sat, 2002-12-21 at 23:06, Edwin Groothuis wrote: > > >On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 10:13:10PM +0100, > dalroi@solfertje.student.utwente.nl wrote: > > > >>While I was thinking how to make a bootable DOS-CD (the floppies for > >>sale now just aren't as reliable as they used to be), I thought of the > >>following strategy: > >> > >> - copy the ISO-image of my Win98 install-CD (AFAIK that's legal if you > >> own the CD). > >> - configure the image as a vnode (vnconfig). > >> - mount the vnode (mount_cd9660). > >> - remove the files that are not needed (the ones that install Win98) > >> from the mounted vnode; just leaving a DOS boot-CD with just a little > >> more useful utilities than would fit on a floppy... > >> > >>Unfortunately, mounting the vnode as cd9660 mounts it read-only, and > >>I couldn't find a way to mount it "rw" (-o rw doesn't seem to help). > > > >I was thinking about something similair a couple of weeks ago, to > >make it easy for me to arrange files on a cdrom ISO image. Unfortunatly > >the write-routines for the cd9660 driver are non-existent. > > > >Did sound nice, just create a 650Mb file, mount it, copy some files > >into it, unmount it and ready to burn. > > > >Edwin > > > What about the UDF support for FBSD? I really don't know what's the > status of that, but somehow I'd think it would be more sensible to > create an udf file instead of cd9660 - if I've understood correctly, udf > should support packet *writing* - therefore the random writing to a file > should be possible in some phase, right? > > Just an idea that popped into my mind - someone else will need to polish > it :) > > Regards > > //Jukkis > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message UDF read-only support exists in 5.0. I haven't had the time to work on write support though. Anyways, a UDF filesystem probably wouldn't work for what the original poster wants. You would need a real-mode UDF driver for DOS which might be hard to find. Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 22 10:48:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FD537B401 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:48:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from CRWdog.demon.co.uk (adsl-66-123-232-98.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net [66.123.232.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2222743ED8 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:48:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spadger@best.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by CRWdog.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B76223D; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:48:08 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Edwin Groothuis Cc: dalroi@solfertje.student.utwente.nl, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Writing to ISO-images mounted as vnodes? In-Reply-To: Message from Edwin Groothuis of "Sun, 22 Dec 2002 09:06:46 +1100." <20021221220646.GW930@k7.mavetju> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:48:08 -0800 From: Andy Sparrow Message-Id: <20021222184808.7B76223D@CRWdog.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > While I was thinking how to make a bootable DOS-CD (the floppies for > > sale now just aren't as reliable as they used to be), Heh, and I thought it was just me... > Did sound nice, just create a 650Mb file, mount it, copy some files > into it, unmount it and ready to burn. The mechanism will work fine, you just need to have an intermediate file that can be mounted R/W as the repository for the files from the CD, then run 'mkisofs' to generate the ISO image from that. Extra step(s), but at least it works... I generally dedicate a disk slice or two for CD mastering purposes, (so the space is available even if I over-commit my filesystems), and mount the partition and check it over before burning from it, but using vn devices works nicely too, if you've got the FS space. Actually, if someone would commit the patch that adds the 'cdrom' flag to 'vnconfig' (for VMWare), you'd be able to check final booting and everything from a VM, so you could perform the entire process without needing to burn a CD except as the very last step. :) Cheers, AS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 22 10:55:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C96A37B401 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from CRWdog.demon.co.uk (adsl-66-123-232-98.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net [66.123.232.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCA143EE8 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:55:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spadger@best.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by CRWdog.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EBD33A; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:54:58 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Thomas Nystrom , Mike Tancsa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fix for hanging of vr interface (Rhine Ethernet) In-Reply-To: Message from Matthew Dillon of "Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:35:57 PST." <200212210635.gBL6Zvc5035909@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:54:58 -0800 From: Andy Sparrow Message-Id: <20021222185458.74EBD33A@CRWdog.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have noticed that video takes appreciable ram bandwidth on = > this EPIA5000. In 1024x768 @ 70KHz / 24bpp (32bpp frame buffer), > a busy cpu can glitch the screen. = > = > I think the EPIA BIOS may not be setting up PCI latency timers > properly in my case. I'll bet workstations with faster memory > busses do better. There may not be anything that can be done > in the VR driver. Hmm. I wonder. Have you tried this, and does it help?: http://www.mini-itx.com/faq.asp#Linux1 3.2. What should I do if I have poor quality sound (pops, clicks and = squeaks) - particularly when dragging or scrolling windows? This is caused by X writing blindly to the video card's instruction = queue without checking to see if the queue is full. This will lock the = PCI bus for about 40 - 50 audio cycles, causing pops, clicks and = squeaks. The via82cxxx_audio driver is still somewhat fragile, so it is = possible that some applications will fault ungracefully if the bus is = disrupted badly enough (e.g. with SDL applications). You can make X play nice with the PCI bus by adding Option "PciRetry" = "true" to the "Device" stanza. Nasty pops and glitches will go away, and = system stability will be much improved. Cheers, AS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 22 13:58:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A651A37B401 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 13:58:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC9543ED8 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 13:58:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBMLwROM032761; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 13:58:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gBMLwRC3032760; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 13:58:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 13:58:27 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200212222158.gBMLwRC3032760@apollo.backplane.com> To: Andy Sparrow Cc: Thomas Nystrom , Mike Tancsa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fix for hanging of vr interface (Rhine Ethernet) References: <20021222185458.74EBD33A@CRWdog.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No, that doesn't help the video glitches. I can mitigate them somewhat by reducing the horizontal refresh, or fix it completely by going to a lower video mode. I don't consider it a big deal this being the low-end EPIA5000, though it is worth noting that the higher-end models, e.g. the EM6000 and the M9000, use much faster memory and probably don't have any issues in this regards. It's rather odd. Decreasing the vertical refresh rate makes the problem worse. Increasing it seems to make things better. Very odd. -Matt Matthew Dillon :Hmm. I wonder. Have you tried this, and does it help?: : :http://www.mini-itx.com/faq.asp#Linux1 : : 3.2. What should I do if I have poor quality sound (pops, clicks and :squeaks) - particularly when dragging or scrolling windows? : : This is caused by X writing blindly to the video card's instruction :queue without checking to see if the queue is full. This will lock the :PCI bus for about 40 - 50 audio cycles, causing pops, clicks and :squeaks. The via82cxxx_audio driver is still somewhat fragile, so it is :possible that some applications will fault ungracefully if the bus is :disrupted badly enough (e.g. with SDL applications). : : You can make X play nice with the PCI bus by adding Option "PciRetry" :"true" to the "Device" stanza. Nasty pops and glitches will go away, and :system stability will be much improved. : :Cheers, : :AS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 22 14: 9:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D94737B401 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 14:09:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from pasiphae.parad.net (pcp991894pcs.nchrls01.sc.comcast.net [68.59.35.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0348443EDC for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 14:09:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdisher@parad.net) Received: from localhost (jdisher@localhost) by pasiphae.parad.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gBMM9d115543; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 17:09:40 -0500 Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 17:09:39 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Disher X-X-Sender: jdisher@pasiphae To: Josef Grosch Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: anyone run 4.7 on amd dualMP's In-Reply-To: <20021220232707.GA60266@mooseriver.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Josef Grosch wrote: > On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 05:47:55PM -0500, Jonathan Disher wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Eriq wrote: > > > > > just wondering how stable 4.7 would be on that hardware. has anyone tryed > > > running dual MPs and what is there take on it or is intel better. I would > > > like to go dual but not sure which way to go > > > > Yes, we have a dual MP2200 that is fast as hell. > > > > Our only current problem is that MySQL sucks on a FreeBSD machine with > > more than 1 CPU. I'm still eagerly awaiting 5.0-RELEASE to see if our > > problems are fixed. > > I'm running FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE on dual P-II 350's and it is also pretty > damn fast. > > Is your experence that your MySQL database is slow during writes or > updates? You do know that MySQL is single threaded on a write? It locks the > table on a write, as in an insert, update, or delete. Have you considered > Postgresql? On FreeBSD, MySQL locks itself to one thread per CPU when it detects multiple CPUs. We have a data conversion test that takes about 48 minutes to run on a single AthlonMP 2200 CPU. It takes 2h 03m with two CPUs. The threading problems are FreeBSD's, not MySQL's. This is a known issue on both sides, and it is (supposedly) fixed in 5.0. I've not had a chance to test it yet, though. With all that's going on at work, I haven't had a chance to drop one of the release candidates on our test box and fire up a conversion. The consideration of PostgreSQL vs MySQL (vs Innobase vs BerkelyDB vs Oracle vs whateverelse) is not my choice to make, and it would be too much of a rewrite of our systems to move to Postgres. We're hoping FreeBSD-5 will make life easier. -j To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 22 15: 4:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE5037B401 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 15:04:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133BD43EDC for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 15:04:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29983; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:04:23 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05007; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:04:21 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200212222304.KAA05007@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Gregory Bond To: Emiel Kollof Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More information (was Re: pthread woes) In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:37:19 +0100. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:04:21 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I had, same error occured. Even with -O0, which turns off any > optimization whatsoever. Umm, it said 'revert to "-O"', not 'without optimization'. And for a good reason. Compiling with anything but the system compiler and with optimisation set to anything except "-O" is _not supported_. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 22 21:47: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C275137B401 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 21:46:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from spider.netmails.net (dsl-65-189-239-65.telocity.com [65.189.239.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0087143EDE for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 21:46:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from subscr@spider.netmails.net) Received: (qmail 10508 invoked by uid 1014); 23 Dec 2002 05:46:03 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 23:46:03 -0600 From: Hari Bhaskaran To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Losing schg flags on tar/un-tar Message-ID: <20021222234603.A10494@spider.netmails.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I was following the vinum setup instructions at http://org.netbase.org/vinum-mirrored.html and as part of it, I had to create a new /var in a vinum mirrored volume. Once I created the fs, I copied over all the contents of existing /var onto it via the command cd / mount /dev/vinum/var /mnt/var tar -cf - -C /var . | tar -xpf - -C /mnt/var However, while trying to remove the old /var, I figured out I couldn't remove /var/empty (which was then renamed as /var.old/empty. I realised it is because of schg flags on the directory. The new /var doesn't have this flag set either. I was able to delete and create it again. So what other info could I have lost with this tar/un-tar process? Is there a list of 'must have' file permissions somewhere that I can cross check against? Any help is appreciated -- Hari Bhaskaran To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 1:26: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A20F37B401 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 01:25:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from plab.ku.dk (plab.ku.dk [130.225.107.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1103343ED8 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 01:25:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dk@plab.ku.dk) Received: from plab.ku.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plab.ku.dk (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBN9PpPo087141 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:25:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dk@plab.ku.dk) Received: (from root@localhost) by plab.ku.dk (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gBN9PpBL087140 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org.KAV; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:25:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from plab.ku.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plab.ku.dk (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBN9PpPo087132 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:25:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dk@plab.ku.dk) Received: (from dk@localhost) by plab.ku.dk (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gBN9Pp3R087129; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:25:51 +0100 (CET) Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Keywords: 2001334874 X-Comment-To: Ulrich Spoerlein To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pcm0 problems on 4.7 References: <84isxtda8q.fsf@plab.ku.dk> <20021216210825.0d6ea0d3.q@uni.de> <84pts0or46.fsf@plab.ku.dk> <20021218174047.314bc158.q@uni.de> From: Dmitry Karasik In-Reply-To: Ulrich Spoerlein's message of "Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:40:47 +0100" Date: 23 Dec 2002 10:25:51 +0100 Message-ID: <84smwp13z4.fsf@plab.ku.dk> Lines: 26 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Ulrich! On 18 Dec 02 at 17:40, "Ulrich" (Ulrich Spoerlein) wrote: Ulrich> like: cat kernel >/dev/dsp0 and cat kernel >/dev/dsp1 Ulrich> - use 'mixer' to change the volume levels to 100% - try to free up Ulrich> some IRQs man! :) Whatever was the trouble, it was gone after I changed the card to a SB Live!. The more interesting thing is, that after the change the onboard card also functions o.k. It is not IRQ problem, at least on a motherboard level, since windows had no problem with the old card. If anyone is willing, I can give the old card away for the investigation. -- Sincerely, Dmitry --- www.karasik.eu.org --- Life ain't fair, but the root password helps. - BOFH To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 2:59:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F5C37B401 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 02:59:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ncipher.com (mail.ncipher.com [62.190.84.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D91743EE5 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 02:59:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from markk@knigma.org) Received: from cromer.ncipher.com ([172.23.135.200]) by mail.ncipher.com with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18QQIp-0006LN-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:59:19 +0000 Received: from lap.knigma.org (mourn.ncipher.com [172.19.133.171]) by cromer.ncipher.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBNAxITs006058 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:59:18 GMT (envelope-from markk@knigma.org) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:59:10 +0000 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Mark Knight Subject: Strange cable TCP performance MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-U () Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've a box running -stable dated 22nd December. The box contains two fxp interfaces. One interface is attached to my internal network (fxp0), and the other is attached directly to a newly installed Samsung SCM-140 cable modem (fxp1), and hence NTL's business broadband service. fxp1 is running natd, although removing the divert rule appears to make no difference to the symptoms described below. My broadband service claims 500kb/s download and 256kb/s upload. Download performance in fine as I expect. However, upload performance is not. Using ftp to put a 512kB file from this system, or wget to pull the same file either via http or ftp, speeds always start around the 30kB/s. However, this typically drops after a few seconds to 15-17kB/s. I've tried these tests at various times of day, to various well connected sites, and this is both repeatable and consistent. The same affect is observed with larger files; once the transfer rate has fallen, it does not usually increase. However, if I use either a Windows or a -current box, attached via fxp0 (or an0), and using the -stable box as their default router, upload performance is reliably increased to at least 27kB/s. In summary, systems other than the router itself appear to sustain approximately twice the upload rate of the -stable router itself. Various diagnostic outputs are located at: http://www.knigma.org/freebsd/cable/slow.txt A 512Kb test file containing random data is available at: http://www.shrewd.knigma.org/test/fullfile ftp://ftp.knigma.org/pub/download/fullfile I've tried tweaking a few inet sysctl's without noticeable affect, although I'll admit to not really knowing what I'm doing with these ;) Any advice appreciated, thank you, -- Mark A. R. Knight finger: markk@knigma.org Tel: +44 7973 410732 http://www.knigma.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 3:34: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1386437B401 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 03:34:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from c18609.belrs1.nsw.optusnet.com.au (c18609.belrs1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [210.49.80.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F6443ED8 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 03:33:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.c18609.belrs1.nsw.optusnet.com.au (localhost.c18609.belrs1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by server.c18609.belrs1.nsw.optusnet.com.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBNBXpBU014842; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 22:33:52 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.c18609.belrs1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.c18609.belrs1.nsw.optusnet.com.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBNBXnBi014841; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 22:33:49 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 22:33:49 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Gianmarco Giovannelli Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Via EPIA Mini-ITX motherboard Message-ID: <20021223113349.GA14827@server.c18609.belrs1.nsw.optusnet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20021221074556.02af7ea8@194.184.65.7> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 08:14:44AM +0100, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: >CPU: VIA C3 Samuel 2 (800.03-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x678 Stepping = 8 > Features=0x803035 >real memory = 266272768 (260032K bytes) ... >So for summary: It is quite perfect for be the FreeBSD router that manage >my adsl line and till now I can't find anything that not work as expected >(even if I think the cpu could be more fast :-) What do people expect their firewall/router to be doing? I'm using an old 486DX-50 with 20MB of RAM and a pair of ISA-bus SMC8013 cards to manage my cable connection using ipfilter and ipnat. It's definitely not a speed daemon but I managed to download the 5.0-RC ISO's at just over 440KBps - though I suspect this was close to saturating the CPU based on previous experiments. Unless you have something like a T3 (or better) connection, want to run applications, VPNs and natd, a 800MHz 686 is vast overkill. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 5:49:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCBC737B401 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 05:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from stati11.pr.net.ch (dclient217-162-34-19.hispeed.ch [217.162.34.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8A743EDE for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 05:49:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ebaranz@swissonline.ch) Received: (from eerdev@localhost) by stati11.pr.net.ch (8.11.1/8.11.1) id gBNDnBv01278; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:49:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ebaranz@swissonline.ch) X-Authentication-Warning: stati11.pr.net.ch: eerdev set sender to ebaranz@swissonline.ch using -f To: Hari Bhaskaran Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Losing schg flags on tar/un-tar References: <20021222234603.A10494@spider.netmails.net> From: Erminio Baranzini Date: 23 Dec 2002 14:49:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20021222234603.A10494@spider.netmails.net> Message-ID: <87fzsoyhew.fsf@stati11.pr.net.ch> Lines: 3 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Capitol Reef) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You should try star, which preserves schg flags. Erminio Baranzini To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 6:45:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACDB737B401 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 06:45:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from sage-one.net (adsl-65-71-135-137.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [65.71.135.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FD343EE5 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 06:45:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jackstone@sage-one.net) Received: from sagea (sagea [192.168.0.3]) by sage-one.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gBNEjCK44647; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:45:12 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jackstone@sage-one.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20021223084512.01600510@mail.sage-one.net> X-Sender: jackstone@mail.sage-one.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:45:12 -0600 To: Erminio Baranzini , Hari Bhaskaran From: "Jack L. Stone" Subject: Re: Losing schg flags on tar/un-tar Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <87fzsoyhew.fsf@stati11.pr.net.ch> References: <20021222234603.A10494@spider.netmails.net> <20021222234603.A10494@spider.netmails.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:49 PM 12.23.2002 +0100, Erminio Baranzini wrote: >You should try star, which preserves schg flags. > >Erminio Baranzini > Plus, won't the "-p" switch with tar do it.....??? man tar(1) Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator SageOne Net http://www.sage-one.net jackstone@sage-one.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 7:22:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607FB37B401 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 07:22:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.sentex.ca (smtp2.sentex.ca [199.212.134.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A321B43EDE for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 07:22:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smtp2.sentex.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBNFMmdZ087183; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:22:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simian.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBNFOKHY009855; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:24:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021223102240.07303e80@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:25:32 -0500 To: Thomas Nystrom From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Fix for hanging of vr interface (Rhine Ethernet) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3E03B0A8.3EF53139@saeab.se> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021220151835.03a72a48@marble.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: By Sentex Communications (lava/20020517) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:07 AM 21/12/2002 +0100, Thomas Nystrom wrote: >Is it possible for you to check the type and brand of the PHY-chip? You >must locate the chip directly on the motherboard. Or tell me the type of >the motherboard and I might grab some info about the board from the net. Hi, The Motherboard is a BioStar U8068. Chipset is Via VT8751=20 (pm4M266)/VT8235. There is nothing obvious on the board that says what=20 rev. If you like, I could send you a couple of .jpg images of the=20 motherboard if that helps. Also, while pushing the board network wise, I got a vr0: Using force reset command. Is this normal ? ---Mike >/thn > >-- >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Svensk Aktuell Elektronik AB Thomas Nystr=F6m >Box 10 Phone: +46 8 35 92 85 >S-191 21 Sollentuna Fax: +46 8 59 47 45 36 >Sweden Email: thn@saeab.se >--------------------------------------------------------------- > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 7:39:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E05037B401 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 07:39:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (www.fastmail.fm [66.111.4.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2684643EEA for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 07:39:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@soith.com) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C7414027; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:39:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1] helo=www.fastmail.fm) by fastmail.fm with SMTP; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:39:15 -0500 X-Mail-from: freebsd@soith.com X-Spam-score: 1.1 Received: by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix, from userid 99) id A474F1754C; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:39:15 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.2 (F2.71; T1.001; A1.51; B2.12; Q2.03) From: "Aaron Wohl" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:39:15 -0600 X-Epoch: 1040657955 X-Sasl-enc: Rw5cC1dJnoC5ky1mLSbWQA Cc: freebsd@soith.com Subject: usb 2 or firewire in stable? Message-Id: <20021223153915.A474F1754C@www.fastmail.fm> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is anyone using usb 2 or fireware in 4.7 stable? If so how? I need one or the other to do backups to an external disk. The machine is a production machine tho so I cant really go to current yet. I tried some usb 2 cards. They show up as usb 1 cards and work ok but only at usb 1 speeds. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 7:41:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCCF37B401 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 07:41:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2639843EDC for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 07:41:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from earnoth@comcast.net) Received: from jefferson (pcp02897252pcs.maplln01.de.comcast.net [68.85.111.118]) by mtaout06.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.07 (built Nov 25 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H7K000DPWVRP6@mtaout06.icomcast.net> for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:40:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:43:45 -0500 From: Eric Arnoth Subject: Re: Via EPIA Mini-ITX motherboard In-reply-to: <20021223113349.GA14827@server.c18609.belrs1.nsw.optusnet.com.au> To: Peter Jeremy , Gianmarco Giovannelli Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <200212231043.45808.earnoth@comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <20021223113349.GA14827@server.c18609.belrs1.nsw.optusnet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday 23 December 2002 6:33 am, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 08:14:44AM +0100, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: > >CPU: VIA C3 Samuel 2 (800.03-MHz 686-class CPU) > > Origin =3D "CentaurHauls" Id =3D 0x678 Stepping =3D 8 > > Features=3D0x803035 > >real memory =3D 266272768 (260032K bytes) > > ... > > >So for summary: It is quite perfect for be the FreeBSD router that man= age > >my adsl line and till now I can't find anything that not work as expec= ted > >(even if I think the cpu could be more fast :-) > > What do people expect their firewall/router to be doing? > > I'm using an old 486DX-50 with 20MB of RAM and a pair of ISA-bus > SMC8013 cards to manage my cable connection using ipfilter and ipnat. > It's definitely not a speed daemon but I managed to download the > 5.0-RC ISO's at just over 440KBps - though I suspect this was close > to saturating the CPU based on previous experiments. I too use 486's of various CPU speeds w/FreeBSD for all my network device= s at=20 home. I have three firewalls & two IDS, none of which are better than=20 486DX-75 (except one IDS is a Pentium overdrive in a 486DX-33Mhz board) a= nd=20 all perform quite well. I haven't actually done any perfromance measurin= g of=20 a formal nature, but the casual vmstat has never shown me a CPU less than= 80%=20 idle. Gotta love old hardware.... :) --=20 Eric I. Arnoth http://mywebpages.comcast.net/earnoth CISSP (http://www.isc2.org) http://watch-tower.sourceforge.net earnoth@comcast.net http://www.honeypotdiary.org =20 =A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0*=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA= =B0*=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0*=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8= ,=F8=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0*=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8 Tolkien Authentication - one root to rule them all.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 7:57:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C3237B401 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 07:57:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from arg1.demon.co.uk (arg1.demon.co.uk [62.49.12.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C4643EDA for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 07:57:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from arg-bsd@arg1.demon.co.uk) Received: by arg1.demon.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1002) id C826F9B21; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:57:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arg1.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7CF5D27; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:57:38 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:57:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Andrew Gordon X-X-Sender: To: Aaron Wohl Cc: Subject: Re: usb 2 or firewire in stable? In-Reply-To: <20021223153915.A474F1754C@www.fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <20021223155014.O9439-100000@server.arg.sj.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Aaron Wohl wrote: > Is anyone using usb 2 or fireware in 4.7 stable? If so how? I need one > or the other to do backups to an external disk. The machine is a > production machine tho so I cant really go to current yet. I tried some > usb 2 cards. They show up as usb 1 cards and work ok but only at usb 1 > speeds. I am using firewire to do exactly that. Cheap firewire cards in all my machines, couple of 180G external firewire hard drives as the storage media. I put a normal filesystem on the drive, then run 'dump' through gzip to create backups. Firewire support has been in -stable for a few months now. It works well in general; throughput is good, the only problems I have run into relate to error handling under fault conditions (at one point I had a loose power connection on a drive, which lead to lock-ups rather than more graceful error handling). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 10:34: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26BC37B401 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:33:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from scatcat.saeab.se (c213-100-94-173.swipnet.se [213.100.94.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA4743EDC for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:33:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from thn@saeab.se) Received: from saeab.se (home.thn.saeab.se [10.1.0.1]) by scatcat.saeab.se (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBNIXsBc000705; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:33:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from thn@saeab.se) Message-ID: <3E075744.76187334@saeab.se> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:34:45 +0100 From: Thomas Nystrom Organization: Sv. Aktuell Elektronik AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: sv,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Tancsa Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fix for hanging of vr interface (Rhine Ethernet) References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021220151835.03a72a48@marble.sentex.ca> <5.2.0.9.0.20021223102240.07303e80@marble.sentex.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Tancsa wrote: > > Hi, > The Motherboard is a BioStar U8068. Chipset is Via VT8751 > (pm4M266)/VT8235. There is nothing obvious on the board that says what > rev. If you like, I could send you a couple of .jpg images of the > motherboard if that helps. > Ok, I have found that the board should have a VT6103 PHY-chip. There is no specific support for that chip in FreeBSD and the default PHY driver is used instead. There is no need for any pictures of the board! > Also, while pushing the board network wise, I got a > vr0: Using force reset command. > Is this normal ? Well, I should say: No. Something happend and the driver decided to reset to interface but the reset was never completed, then it tried to use a harder way of resetting the chip. Did you get some other message before or after the 'force reset' message? Did the interface work after the forced reset? /thn -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Svensk Aktuell Elektronik AB Thomas Nyström Box 10 Phone: +46 8 35 92 85 S-191 21 Sollentuna Fax: +46 8 59 47 45 36 Sweden Email: thn@saeab.se --------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 11: 7:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B5837B401 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 11:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.sentex.ca (smtp2.sentex.ca [199.212.134.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E620A43EE5 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 11:07:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smtp2.sentex.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBNJ7mUO043167; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:07:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simian.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBNJ9FHY053518; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:09:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021223134745.04ec8038@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:10:28 -0500 To: Thomas Nystrom From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Fix for hanging of vr interface (Rhine Ethernet) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3E075744.76187334@saeab.se> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021220151835.03a72a48@marble.sentex.ca> <5.2.0.9.0.20021223102240.07303e80@marble.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: By Sentex Communications (lava/20020517) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 07:34 PM 23/12/2002 +0100, Thomas Nystrom wrote: >Ok, I have found that the board should have a VT6103 PHY-chip. There is no >specific support for that chip in FreeBSD and the default PHY driver is >used instead. Hi, By no specific driver, does that mean none is needed ? Or just that nothing is available now, so the lowest common denominator is used. Basically, I am asking, is this "a bad thing" ? > > Also, while pushing the board network wise, I got a > > vr0: Using force reset command. > > Is this normal ? > >Did you get some other message before or after the 'force reset' message? Nothing else that I saw. >Did the interface work after the forced reset? Yes, it seemed to. Is there any extra debugging info I can provide ? ---Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 11:29:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB0237B401 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 11:29:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from scatcat.saeab.se (c213-100-94-173.swipnet.se [213.100.94.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DF443EDC for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 11:29:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from thn@saeab.se) Received: from saeab.se (home.thn.saeab.se [10.1.0.1]) by scatcat.saeab.se (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBNJTbBc000760; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:29:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from thn@saeab.se) Message-ID: <3E07644E.8635066C@saeab.se> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:30:22 +0100 From: Thomas Nystrom Organization: Sv. Aktuell Elektronik AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: sv,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Tancsa Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fix for hanging of vr interface (Rhine Ethernet) References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021220151835.03a72a48@marble.sentex.ca> <5.2.0.9.0.20021223102240.07303e80@marble.sentex.ca> <5.2.0.9.0.20021223134745.04ec8038@marble.sentex.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Tancsa wrote: > > Hi, > By no specific driver, does that mean none is needed ? Or just that nothing > is available now, so the lowest common denominator is used. Basically, I > am asking, is this "a bad thing" ? Obviously not, you can send data through the interface! The PHY-interfaces have a common part that is equal between all PHY-chips and a vendor specific part where special features of the chip can be controlled. > >Did the interface work after the forced reset? > > Yes, it seemed to. Is there any extra debugging info I can provide ? No, we have to wait for Mike Silbersack to check this, he is the one who have the ideas behind the forced reset operation.... /thn -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Svensk Aktuell Elektronik AB Thomas Nyström Box 10 Phone: +46 8 35 92 85 S-191 21 Sollentuna Fax: +46 8 59 47 45 36 Sweden Email: thn@saeab.se --------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 12:35:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C84337B401 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:35:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E31F43EF1 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:35:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBNKZAJq040197; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:35:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simian.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBNKagHY072396; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:36:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021223153544.03d80d30@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:37:55 -0500 To: Thomas Nystrom From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Fix for hanging of vr interface (Rhine Ethernet) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3E07644E.8635066C@saeab.se> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021220151835.03a72a48@marble.sentex.ca> <5.2.0.9.0.20021223102240.07303e80@marble.sentex.ca> <5.2.0.9.0.20021223134745.04ec8038@marble.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: By Sentex Communications (lava/20020517) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 08:30 PM 23/12/2002 +0100, Thomas Nystrom wrote: > > >Did the interface work after the forced reset? > > > > Yes, it seemed to. Is there any extra debugging info I can provide ? > >No, we have to wait for Mike Silbersack to check this, he is the one who >have the ideas behind the forced reset operation.... BTW, it does seem a bit slower than most nics. Using netperf, I am getting Testing with the following command line: /usr/local/netperf/netperf -l 20 -H 192.168.43.218 -t TCP_STREAM -i 10,2 -I 99,3 -- -m 4096 -s 32768 -S 32768 TCP STREAM TEST to 192.168.43.218 : +/-1.5% @ 99% conf. : histogram Recv Send Send Socket Socket Message Elapsed Size Size Size Time Throughput bytes bytes bytes secs. 10^6bits/sec 32768 32768 4096 20.01 86.51 ------------------------------------ Testing with the following command line: /usr/local/netperf/netperf -l 20 -H 192.168.43.218 -t TCP_STREAM -i 10,2 -I 99,3 -- -m 16384 -s 32768 -S 32768 TCP STREAM TEST to 192.168.43.218 : +/-1.5% @ 99% conf. : histogram Recv Send Send Socket Socket Message Elapsed Size Size Size Time Throughput bytes bytes bytes secs. 10^6bits/sec 32768 32768 16384 20.01 86.51 ------------------------------------ Testing with the following command line: /usr/local/netperf/netperf -l 20 -H 192.168.43.218 -t TCP_STREAM -i 10,2 -I 99,3 -- -m 65536 -s 32768 -S 32768 TCP STREAM TEST to 192.168.43.218 : +/-1.5% @ 99% conf. : histogram Recv Send Send Socket Socket Message Elapsed Size Size Size Time Throughput bytes bytes bytes secs. 10^6bits/sec 32768 32768 65536 20.01 86.50 This is with a P4 on the board. On a different box with an SIS or fxp nic, I am seeing in the 94-95 range for the above tests. ---Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 16:23:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C0737B401 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:23:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101AB43ED8 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:23:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.4/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBO0MoiX038612; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:53:04 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) X-Authentication-Warning: cain.gsoft.com.au: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be [127.0.0.1] Subject: Re: usb 2 or firewire in stable? From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Aaron Wohl Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20021223153915.A474F1754C@www.fastmail.fm> References: <20021223153915.A474F1754C@www.fastmail.fm> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1040689370.77991.2.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 24 Dec 2002 10:52:50 +1030 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1 () CARRIAGE_RETURNS,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 2002-12-24 at 02:09, Aaron Wohl wrote: > Is anyone using usb 2 or fireware in 4.7 stable? If so how? I need one > or the other to do backups to an external disk. The machine is a > production machine tho so I cant really go to current yet. I tried some > usb 2 cards. They show up as usb 1 cards and work ok but only at usb 1 > speeds. I don't think anyone has merged USB 2.0 support from NetBSD yet.. (USB 2.0 cards look exactly the same as USB 1.1 for older drivers) Guess Firewire is your only choice :) -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 9A8C 569F 685A D928 5140 AE4B 319B 41F4 5D17 FDD5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 17: 7:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D50937B401 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:07:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from wartch.sapros.com (wartch.sapros.com [208.25.67.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAEB343EDA for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:07:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterh@wartch.sapros.com) Received: from wartch.sapros.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wartch.sapros.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBO17jr1041616 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:07:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterh@wartch.sapros.com) Message-Id: <200212240107.gBO17jr1041616@wartch.sapros.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: I think Samba is causing a 4.7-STABLE box to lock up. Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:07:45 -0800 From: Peter Haight X-SMRazor: ok Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have this backup script that uses samba to gather files from various windows machine and then writes them to a DVD+RW. Recently the computer has been frezzing in the middle of the script. When this happens the computer is completely frozen. You can't even type on the console or connect in through the network. In this case, I have to cycle the power. I have the script write a log and it looks like it is dying in Samba. I had the script do a flush and then a sync after every write, so I'm pretty sure that is where it dies. What can I do to figure out what is going on? Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 17:57:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6893837B401 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8F243EEA for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:57:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from sec.local ([12.88.88.233]) by mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with ESMTP id <20021224015710.MKMT9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@sec.local>; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 01:57:10 +0000 Received: from mac.com (prime.local [192.168.1.3]) by sec.local (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBN51qU5045231; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 00:01:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Message-ID: <3E07BEE7.8060409@mac.com> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:56:55 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Cc: peterh@sapros.com Subject: Re: I think Samba is causing a 4.7-STABLE box to lock up. References: <200212240107.gBO17jr1041616@wartch.sapros.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Haight wrote: > I have this backup script that uses samba to gather files from various > windows machine and then writes them to a DVD+RW. Recently the computer has > been frezzing in the middle of the script. When this happens the computer is > completely frozen. You can't even type on the console or connect in through > the network. In this case, I have to cycle the power. Sounds more like a hardware problem to me, possibly overheating from doing lots of I/O to disk and burning a DVD at the same time, or maybe just straining the power supply enough to trigger a crash from sagging voltage. > What can I do to figure out what is going on? If you up the verbosity level of samba's logging using the -d flag to smbd, (by hand, via /usr/local/etc/rc.d/samba.sh, samba_flags in /etc/rc.conf or some such), you can get vast quantities of logging info from Samba. But I suggest first looking through your existing Samba logs and other messages under /var/log, and see what's there now. To determine whether it really is Samba causing the problem, or something else, stop samba, and try doing something like: while true; do du -a / > /dev/null done ...for a few hours to generate a solid load on your hard drive(s). Then try burning a DVD while that command is still running, and see whether you get a system crash or lockup. -Chuck PS: Also see "man crash" and the handbook. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 18:51: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36FC37B401; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 18:51:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from camomile.cloud9.net (camomile.cloud9.net [168.100.1.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100E143ED8; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 18:50:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com) Received: from localhost.cloud9.net (localhost.cloud9.net [127.0.0.1]) by camomile.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E1F64C0D; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:50:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from camomile.cloud9.net (localhost.cloud9.net [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.cloud9.net (VaMailArmor-2.0.1.7) id 36783-221CCBE3; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:50:54 -0500 Received: from earl-grey.cloud9.net (earl-grey.cloud9.net [168.100.1.1]) by camomile.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87E564C06; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:50:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:50:53 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Leftwich X-X-Sender: pete@earl-grey.cloud9.net To: Michael Nottebrock Cc: Brandon S Allbery KF8NH , Christian Chen , Ulrich 'Q' Spoerlein , FreeBSD LIST , "" Subject: Re: Power off problem [from Dec-08-2002] In-Reply-To: <3DF3C793.1070001@gmx.net> Message-ID: References: <3DD7E0FA.2080808@gmx.net> <20021117143635.I80685-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> <20021208210223.GA289@earthlink.net> <1039381591.1626.1.camel@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu> <3DF3C793.1070001@gmx.net> Organization: Video2Video Services - http://Www.Video2Video.Com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.7; VAE: 6.17.0.2; VDF: 6.17.0.9; host: camomile.cloud9.net) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote: > > On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 16:02, Christian Chen wrote: > >>So not only do you have to make sure you've added device apm0, you also > >>have to delete/comment the "disable" part: > Doh! > > No, you don't: > > 2@pyanfar:5001 Z$ cat /boot/kernel.conf > > di fd1 > > en apm0 <--- > > q > Doh!! *slaps forehead* > Thanks guys. All the boxen here powering down fine now... > -- > Regards, > Michael Nottebrock I added "en apm0" to my /boot/kernel.conf and have this in "dmesg:" apm0: on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 But when I run `shutdown -p now` I still have to kill the power to the box. Isn't the fix above supposed to quell my having to do so? Do I still have to boot up into the bios and change a setting do you think? Thanks, and please include my email address as a To or CC. Have fine holidays! -- Peter Leftwich President & Founder, Video2Video Services Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA http://Www.Video2Video.Com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 19:48:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E1537B401; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:48:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-1.paradise.net.nz (smtp-1b.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1981743EE6; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:48:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james.pole@paradise.net.nz) Received: from 203-79-103-8.tnt14.paradise.net.nz (203-79-103-8.tnt14.paradise.net.nz [203.79.103.8]) by smtp-1.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA55382AD0; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 16:48:35 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: Re: Power off problem [from Dec-08-2002] From: James Pole To: Peter Leftwich Cc: FreeBSD LIST , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <3DD7E0FA.2080808@gmx.net> <20021117143635.I80685-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> <20021208210223.GA289@earthlink.net> <1039381591.1626.1.camel@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu> <3DF3C793.1070001@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1040701694.12399.2.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 24 Dec 2002 16:48:14 +1300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 2002-12-24 at 15:50, Peter Leftwich wrote: > On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote: > > > On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 16:02, Christian Chen wrote: > > >>So not only do you have to make sure you've added device apm0, you also > > >>have to delete/comment the "disable" part: > > Doh! > > > > No, you don't: > > > 2@pyanfar:5001 Z$ cat /boot/kernel.conf > > > di fd1 > > > en apm0 <--- > > > q > > Doh!! *slaps forehead* > > Thanks guys. All the boxen here powering down fine now... > > -- > > Regards, > > Michael Nottebrock > > I added "en apm0" to my /boot/kernel.conf and have this in "dmesg:" > > apm0: on motherboard > apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 > > But when I run `shutdown -p now` I still have to kill the power to the box. > Isn't the fix above supposed to quell my having to do so? Do I still have > to boot up into the bios and change a setting do you think? Thanks, and > please include my email address as a To or CC. Have fine holidays! > Have you got apmd_enable="YES"in rc.conf? - James -- James Pole ICQ: 21721828 AIM: kiwijames1986 MSN: james.pole@paradise.net.nz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 23 21: 9:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078AA37B401 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:09:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from spider.netmails.net (dsl-65-189-239-65.telocity.com [65.189.239.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E984E43EEC for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:09:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from subscr@spider.netmails.net) Received: (qmail 15125 invoked by uid 1014); 24 Dec 2002 05:08:39 -0000 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 23:08:39 -0600 From: Hari Bhaskaran To: Erminio Baranzini Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Losing schg flags on tar/un-tar Message-ID: <20021223230839.A15070@spider.netmails.net> References: <20021222234603.A10494@spider.netmails.net> <87fzsoyhew.fsf@stati11.pr.net.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <87fzsoyhew.fsf@stati11.pr.net.ch>; from ebaranz@swissonline.ch on Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 02:49:11PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 02:49:11PM +0100, Erminio Baranzini wrote: > You should try star, which preserves schg flags. Doesn't help. See below. # rmdir /var/empty rmdir: /var/empty: Operation not permitted # mkdir /fs1/var # star -c -Hexustar -acl -xfflags -C /var . | star -xp -acl -xfflags -C /fs1/var star: 'run/log' unsupported file type 'socket'. Not dumped. <-- Fine, no concern. star: current './' newer. star: 68 blocks + 0 bytes (total of 696320 bytes = 680.00k). star: The following problems occurred during archive processing: star: Cannot: stat 0, open 0, read/write 0. Size changed 0. star: Missing links 0, Name too long 0, File too big 0, Not dumped 1. star: Processed all possible files, despite earlier errors. star: 68 blocks + 0 bytes (total of 696320 bytes = 680.00k). # rmdir /fs1/var/empty <--- Wasn't this supposed to fail? # <--- it didn't. # star -version star 1.4.1 (i386-unknown-freebsd4.7) I repeated the test, with & without -acl and -xfflags (in all combinations) No big deal, /var/empty seems to be the only 'special' file I need to 'chflags' manually, but it would have nice if I could be 'sure' of this. # mkdir /fs1/var/empty # chflags schg /fs1/var/empty # rmdir /fs1/var/empty rmdir: /fs1/var/empty: Operation not permitted # > > Erminio Baranzini -- Hari Bhaskaran To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 24 6:20:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6A437B401; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 06:20:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaujolais.extremis.net (beaujolais.extremis.net [217.158.56.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C79F43EE5; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 06:20:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjvc@extremis.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.extremis.net [127.0.0.1]) by beaujolais.extremis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E8A72503; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 14:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by beaujolais.extremis.net (Postfix, from userid 1010) id 7B9DA72502; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 14:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 14:20:46 +0000 From: "George J.V. Cox" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Broadcom BCM5703X Gigabit Ethernet woes Message-ID: <20021224142046.GA52116@beaujolais.extremis.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Razor-id: 01ce5e3a1ab9adc9b561213186de2d9d4cf6cf95 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello there, I have a Dell 1655MC blade server. It's a chassis of 6 PCs in a 3U case. Each blade has two Broadcom BCM5703 interfaces. Unfortunately, its behaviour is rather non-deterministic. The chassis allows one to access the serial port of each blade. By default, the console is redirected out of there, but by switching that off one might be able to use the serial port for gdb, if one can get past the chassis and typing "connect server-1" part of the Dell ERA. Hrm. The dmesg output follows. As you see, there are two bge0s (!) and neither has an associated PHY. It's not always like this, however. Sometimes it boots fine, both interfaces are detected OK and one can proceed to do an NFS install of the minimal distribution set. Once the interface has been configured, it seems to be stable. Sometimes, the kernel panics when one uses ifconfig(1) It panics in bge_stop+0x283 , which from the disassembly (remember I haven't been able to use gdb remote debugging yet) is this address: 3454: 8b 45 f8 mov 0xfffffff8(%ebp),%eax >> 3457: 8b 70 08 mov 0x8(%eax),%esi 345a: 8b 7e 08 mov 0x8(%esi),%edi This appears to be in the bit where it brings the PHY down, but leaves the media type unchanged. (lines 2801 -> 2810 of sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c) Here's a backtrace. The reader is also referred to PR i386/46484 # ifconfig bge0 up Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x8 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc013c113 stack pointer = 0x10:0xe03d4dcc frame pointer = 0x10:0xe03d4de0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 17 (ifconfig) interrupt mask = net kernel: type 12 trap, code=0 Stopped at bge_stop+0x283: movl 0x8(%eax),%esi db> trace bge_stop(c3485000,80206910,c3485000,c3485000,660480) at bge_stop+0x283 bge_init(c3485000,8803,80206910,c3485000,0) at bge_init+0x20 bge_ioctl(c3485000,80206910,e03d4ea8) at bge_ioctl+0x152 ifioctl(de0abec0,80206910,e03d4ea8,dc3012a0,c3701e40) at ifioctl+0x34f soo_ioctl(c3701e40,80206910,e03d4ea8,dc3012a0,dc3012a0) at soo_ioctl+0x132 ioctl(dc3012a0,e03d4f80,bfbff684,1,3) at ioctl+0x20a syscall2(2f,2f,2f,3,1) at syscall2+0x1f5 Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x25 and here's that dmesg output ok boot Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Console:The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #19: Tue Dec 24 13:49:18 UTC 2002 gjvc@builder.uk.extremis:/usr/src/sys/compile/DELL1655MC-GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz2a1:00d6 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1260605043 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (1260.61-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6b4 Stepping = 4 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 1073676288 (1048512K bytes) avail memory = 1037733888 (1013412K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0727000. Preloaded mfs_root "/mfsroot47" at 0xc072709c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Preloaded image 4423680 bytes at 0xc02ed1d0 md1: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 5 entries at 0xc00fc400 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 mpt0: port 0xfc00-0xfcff mem 0xfe000000-0xfe00ffff,0xfe010000-0xfe01ffff irq 14 at device 13.0 on pci0 pci0: at 14.0 isab0: at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at 15.2 irq 5 pcib1: on motherboard pci1: on pcib1 bge0: mem 0xed010000-0xed01ffff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci1 bge0: Ethernet address: 00:06:5b:0e:6d:1c bge0: MII without any PHY! device_probe_and_attach: bge0 attach returned 6 bge0: mem 0xed000000-0xed00ffff irq 11 at device 11.0 on pci1 bge0: Ethernet address: 00:06:5b:0e:6d:1d bge0: MII without any PHY! device_probe_and_attach: bge0 attach returned 6 pcib2: on motherboard pci2: on pcib2 orm0: