From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Feb 11 5:16:52 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0F637B401 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 05:16:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C3643F93 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 05:16:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DCB3F4E for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:17:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Langille" To: advocacy@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:18:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: 5.0 makes the papers in NZ Message-ID: <3E48B1DF.1539.B98EA326@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just found this URL posted in the NZFUG list: http://tinyurl.com/5msb -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Feb 11 8:38:54 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2162037B401 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:38:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from stox.sa.enteract.com (stox.sa.enteract.com [207.229.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5549E43F85 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:38:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stox@imagescape.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stox.sa.enteract.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1BGcmVL004245 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:38:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stox@imagescape.com) Subject: Re: 5.0 makes the papers in NZ From: "Kenneth P. Stox" To: advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3E48B1DF.1539.B98EA326@localhost> References: <3E48B1DF.1539.B98EA326@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Imaginary Landscape, LLC. Message-Id: <1044981528.31309.58.camel@stox.sa.enteract.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 Date: 11 Feb 2003 10:38:48 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 07:18, Dan Langille wrote: > I just found this URL posted in the NZFUG list: > > http://tinyurl.com/5msb An interesting quote from the article: "Apple has also hired a number of FreeBSD project members to move the underlying operating system for MacOS X, Darwin, to a FreeBSD core." Is this true? If so, I am quite surprised. I wasn't aware that Apple was planning on replacing Darwin. -Ken Stox stox@imagescape.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Feb 12 11:18:32 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC50337B401; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:18:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from kurush.osdn.org.ua (external.osdn.org.ua [212.40.34.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1D043FAF; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:17:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from never@kurush.osdn.org.ua) Received: from kurush.osdn.org.ua (never@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kurush.osdn.org.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1CJGxM9004455; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:16:59 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from never@kurush.osdn.org.ua) Received: (from never@localhost) by kurush.osdn.org.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1CJGxtR004454; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:16:59 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:16:59 +0200 From: Alexandr Kovalenko To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Fwd: Flash on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20030212191659.GE90537@nevermind.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'd urge anyone, who is interested in native flash on FreeBSD, to fill out with request form. It should help, as it was with nVidia drivers. ----- Forwarded message from MikkelFJ ----- Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 03:44:38 +0900 From: "MikkelFJ" To: ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML) Subject: Flash GUI on Ruby vs. FreeBSD Recently there were yet another Ruby Flash discussion. It was mentioned that Flash was not supported on FreeBSD. So I asked their customer support about the status. Here is their answer: At the moment there are no plans to compile the Macromedia Flash Player for FreeBSD. However, we do offer licensing for developers if they are interested in compiling the source code on their OS of choice. This page has more information on licensing the source code: We also have an open SWF forum for developers: The best thing to do would be to fill out the Feature Request form here: http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/ and have other FreeBSD users do the same. The engineers view the wishlist regularly and would consider porting the player to UNIX if enough users request for it. Mikkel ----- End forwarded message ----- -- NEVE-RIPE, will build world for food Ukrainian FreeBSD User Group http://uafug.org.ua/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Feb 12 13:52:10 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D70237B401; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:51:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebsd.org (p50867E3A.dip.t-dialin.net [80.134.126.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8985943FE5; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:51:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james1k3@netscape.net) X-Priority: 1 From: To: "majordomo@freebsd.org" Subject: [private and confindential] Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:53:20 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BC2B74.89D1CCC0" Message-Id: <20030212215133.8985943FE5@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC2B74.89D1CCC0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable AMSTERDAM, THE NETHERLANDS. CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS PROPOSAL. You may be surprised to receive this letter from me since you do not know me personally. I am Carol Makali, the only child of James Makali,the most popular black farmer in Zimbabwe who was murdered in the land dispute in my country. I got your contact through network online hence decided to write you. Before the death of my father, he had taken me to Johannesburg to deposit the sum of US8.6 million (Eight million, Six Hundred thousand United States dollars), in one of the private security company, as he foresaw the looming danger in Zimbabwe this money was deposited in a box as gem stones to avoid much demurrage from security company. This amount was meant for the purchase of new machines and chemicals for the Farms and establishment of new farms in Swaziland. This land problem came when Zimbabwean President Mr. Robert Mugabe introduced a new Land Act Reform wholly affecting the rich white farmers and some few black farmers, and this resulted to the killing and mob action by Zimbabwean war veterans and some lunatics in the society. In fact a lot of people were killed because of this Land reform Act for which my father was one of the victims. It is against this background that, I and my mother fled Zimbabwe for fear of our lives and are currently staying in the Netherlands where we are seeking political asylum and moreso have decided to transfer my father’s money to a more reliable foreign account. since the law of Netherlands prohibits a refugee (asylum seeker) to open any bank account or to be involved in any financial transaction throughout the territorial zone of Netherlands, As the only child of my father, I am saddled with the responsibility of seeking a genuine foreign account where this money could be transferred without the knowledge of my government who are bent on taking everything we have got. The South African government seems to be playing along with them. I am faced with the dilemma of moving this amount of money out of South Africa for fear of going through the same experience in future, both countries have similar political history. 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I have also mapped out 5% of this money for all kinds of expenses incurred in the process of this transaction. If you do not prefer a partnership I am willing to give you 20% of the money while the remaining 75% will be for my investment in your country. Contact me with the above telephone number or my E-mail address while I implore you to maintain the absolute secrecy required in this transaction. Thanks, GOD BLESS YOU Yours Faithfully, Carol Makali. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Feb 13 19:22: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A116637B401 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:22:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C603D43FB1 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:22:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mikel.king@ocsny.com) Received: from asv16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (asv16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.170]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.05 (built Nov 6 2002)) with ESMTP id <0HAA0084T3ZER1@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:21:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocsny.com (ool-18bbf825.dyn.optonline.net [24.187.248.37]) by asv16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (8.12.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h1E3KsuK014489 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:20:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:21:03 -0500 From: Mikel King Subject: two articles by Don MacVittie To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Message-id: <3E4C609F.6030000@ocsny.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030210 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There are two articles @ www.nwc.com that mention FreeBSD, both are written by Don MacVittie. Granted Neither article is BSD centric. But he does give BSD top billing over Linux and MAC Os X...of course that can have as much to do with order by alpha... In any event it was good to see it in print. Here are link to the two articles.... The Next Windows Server: Not .Net http://www.nwc.com/1402/1402buzz1.html FUDBusters http://www.nwc.com/1402/1402buzz5.html -- Cheers, Mikel King Optimized Computer Solutions, INC 39 West Fourteenth Street Second Floor New York, NY 10011 http://www.ocsny.com +------------------------------------------+ You may like them. You will see. You may like them in a tree. http://www.freebsd.org http://www.OpenOffice.org http://www.Mozilla.org +------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Feb 14 12: 5:35 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B3037B407 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:05:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from net24.it (adsl-33-25.37-151.net24.it [151.37.25.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 993BA43FCB for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:05:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ed@bsdcon.it) Received: (qmail 16490 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2003 11:50:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thinker) (10.0.0.2) by 0 with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 11:50:51 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Ed Reply-To: ed@bsdcon.it To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org Subject: BSDCon Italy 2003 :: Call For Papers Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:54:05 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 Cc: freebsd-announce@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200302091933.51151.ed@bsdcon.it> Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, BSDCon Italy 2003 will be held during Webbit'03 event (www.webb.it). Nothing really official, we'll try to promote *BSD systems with various workshops. We are looking for people that can talk about FreeBSD using italian langu= age. Details and news will be released on bsdcon.it Good luck. Ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Feb 14 12: 5:35 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE7037B405 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:05:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from net24.it (adsl-33-25.37-151.net24.it [151.37.25.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9472A43F93 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:05:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ed@bsdcon.it) Received: (qmail 26901 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 15:30:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thinker) (10.0.0.2) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 15:30:52 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Ed Reply-To: ed@bsdcon.it To: advocacy@FreeBSD.org Subject: BSDCon Italy 2003 :: Call For Papers Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:33:51 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 Cc: announce@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200302091933.51151.ed@bsdcon.it> Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, BSDCon Italy 2003 will be held during Webbit'03 event (www.webb.it). Nothing really official, we'll try to promote *BSD systems with various workshops. We are looking for people that can talk about FreeBSD using italian langu= age. Details and news will be released on bsdcon.it Good luck. Ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Feb 14 21:43:57 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA50737B401 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 21:43:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897D643F75 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 21:43:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jv7C-000BTK-00 for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 05:43:54 +0000 Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.12.6/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h1F5hrPe035442 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 05:43:53 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1F5hqi9035441 for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 05:43:52 GMT Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 05:43:52 +0000 From: Jonathon McKitrick To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: BSD architecture over Linux? Message-ID: <20030215054352.GC35069@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *18jv7C-000BTK-00*j8Pg5NUtzAE* Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No, this is not flame bait or a 'Linux vs BSD' challenge. :-) What I am really interested in knowing is where BSD is still ahead of Linux, where they have recently caught up, and where THEY are ahead. My guesses: BSD VM is ahead. Linux TCP/IP stack has caught up. Linux SMP is ahead. NOTE: Please CC me, as I am not currently subscribed. Thanks. jm -- My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Feb 15 16:52:30 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DC937B401 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:52:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from web11804.mail.yahoo.com (web11804.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5BD8C43F85 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:52:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wyldephyre2@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030216005228.76524.qmail@web11804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.28.96.6] by web11804.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:52:28 PST Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:52:28 -0800 (PST) From: Haikal Saadh Subject: Re: BSD architecture over Linux? To: Jonathon McKitrick , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030215054352.GC35069@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From personal experience, o We just got CardBus while linux has had cardbus support for a while. o Debian's packaging system has optional dependencies, whilst the closest this freebsd has is using WITH_SOMETHING or WITHOUT_SOMETHING in while make'ing. (Either that or hack makefile :D ) o Linux kernel compile/install process is still a Royal PITA. FreeBSD is as easy as a make buildkernel and a make installkernel. o We have background fsck. I didn't think this was that important, but when I actually saw it in action, I was impressed. That's what I think, at least. --- Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > > No, this is not flame bait or a 'Linux vs BSD' challenge. :-) > > What I am really interested in knowing is where BSD is still ahead > of Linux, > where they have recently caught up, and where THEY are ahead. > > My guesses: > BSD VM is ahead. > Linux TCP/IP stack has caught up. > Linux SMP is ahead. > > > NOTE: Please CC me, as I am not currently subscribed. Thanks. > > jm > -- > My other computer is your windows box. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Feb 15 20:33:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F7237B401 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 20:33:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7585743FA3 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 20:33:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from question+advocacy@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 17A365380; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 20:33:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 20:33:04 -0800 From: Linh Pham To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Cc: Jonathon McKitrick Subject: Re: BSD architecture over Linux? Message-ID: <20030216043304.GA59311@q.closedsrc.org> References: <20030215054352.GC35069@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20030216005228.76524.qmail@web11804.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030216005228.76524.qmail@web11804.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: closedsrc.org Mail-Copies-To: poster X-PGP-Key: http://olosecsrc.org/~question/pubkey.asc" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Whoops... forgot to reply back to the list :) On 2003-02-15 16:52 -0800, Haikal Saadh wrote: # >From personal experience, # o We just got CardBus while linux has had cardbus support for a # while. # o Debian's packaging system has optional dependencies, whilst the # closest this freebsd has is using WITH_SOMETHING or WITHOUT_SOMETHING # in while make'ing. (Either that or hack makefile :D ) # o Linux kernel compile/install process is still a Royal PITA. FreeBSD # is as easy as a make buildkernel and a make installkernel. #=20 # o We have background fsck. I didn't think this was that important, # but when I actually saw it in action, I was impressed. One thing that I wanted to add... dunno how relevent it is... but: With Linux, the location of config files, startup files and services can differ greatly from one distribution to another. Which means that if you had worked primarily in RedHat at one place then moved somewhere else that used Debian or SuSE, you'd have to re-learn some of the differences and nuances. With FreeBSD, it's one distribution and there is a standard (or at least recommendation) of where to place startup scripts (/usr/local/etc/rc.d) or config files (/etc or /usr/local/etc). Of course, that may not hold when you move from FreeBSD to OpenBSD or NetBSD... --=20 Linh Pham question+advocacy@closedsrc.org Webmaster and FreeBSD Geek http://closedsrc.org Apprentice Manager Editor and Writer http://www.daemonnews.org Courage: The things I do for love | And So Western Civilization Crumbles --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+TxR/whofDeWkDMIRAvNBAKCxB2JP6fRb620ibk1qntOR9xhdtACgq9xs /308Iu87yoCIJBr2lHqhiL8= =+h3p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message