From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jan 1 8:19:26 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AF837B401 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 08:19:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725E043ED8 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 08:19:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h01GJ8QU027815 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Wed, 1 Jan 2003 17:19:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.1.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h01GJ5fQ061386 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 1 Jan 2003 17:19:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h01GJ35W043304; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 17:19:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h01GJ0eF043303; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 17:19:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 17:18:59 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Kirk Strauser Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Can't use gifconfig on my Alpha - works on i386 Message-ID: <20030101161858.GI27256@cicely8.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <87n0mldgtz.fsf@pooh.honeypot.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87n0mldgtz.fsf@pooh.honeypot.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 03:22:16PM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote: > I'm trying to use the freenet6 port to establish an IPv6 tunnel. I already > had this working 100% correctly on a FreeBSD-4.7 x86 firewall, and copied > the configuration over to it's new FreeBSD-4.7 alpha replacement. > Apparently, there are some problems with the interaction of ifconfig and > gifconfig, but only on the alpha. > > On the x86 machine: > > root@kanga# ifconfig gif0 create > root@kanga# /usr/sbin/gifconfig gif0 inet 208.162.254.126 206.123.31.114 > root@kanga# ifconfig gif0 destroy > > On the alpha: > > root@gopher# ifconfig gif0 create > root@gopher# /usr/sbin/gifconfig gif0 inet 208.162.254.126 206.123.31.114 > gifconfig: gif0 is not gif. gifconfig is obsolete. Please try: ifconfig gif0 tunnel 208.162.254.126 206.123.31.114 > Although the kernel config files are obviously a little different between > the two platforms, they are mostly identical in the non-hardware-dependent > parts. > > Has anyone else made this work? I'm running several IPv6 gif tunnels on a 4.6-STABLE alpha. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jan 1 8:51:52 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA8437B401 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 08:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (pool2-dsl126.conpoint.com [208.162.254.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D51043ED1 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 08:51:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from pooh.honeypot.net (pooh.honeypot.net [10.0.5.128]) by kanga.honeypot.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h01GpmGh052706 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 10:51:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from pooh.honeypot.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pooh.honeypot.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id h01GpmvS004276 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 10:51:48 -0600 Received: (from kirk@localhost) by pooh.honeypot.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) id h01Gpm0s004273; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 10:51:48 -0600 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't use gifconfig on my Alpha - works on i386 References: <87n0mldgtz.fsf@pooh.honeypot.net> <20030101161858.GI27256@cicely8.cicely.de> From: Kirk Strauser Date: 01 Jan 2003 10:51:48 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20030101161858.GI27256@cicely8.cicely.de> Message-ID: <874r8szucb.fsf@pooh.honeypot.net> Lines: 19 X-Mailer: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 2003-01-01T16:18:59Z, Bernd Walter writes: > gifconfig is obsolete. > Please try: ifconfig gif0 tunnel 208.162.254.126 206.123.31.114 That worked like a champ, thanks. I'm still a bit curious about why the same set of commands work on an i386 server of a version contemporary with my alpha server. Although I haven't dug too deeply into the matter, a quick peek at the source for ifconfig and gifconfig shows that neither have been updated since August 30. > I'm running several IPv6 gif tunnels on a 4.6-STABLE alpha. I appreciate the info. I'll submit a patch to the net/freenet6 port later today. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jan 1 19:16:58 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3ED737B401; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:16:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from citusc.usc.edu (citusc.usc.edu [128.125.38.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EA343EA9; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:16:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@citusc.usc.edu) Received: (from kris@localhost) by citusc.usc.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2) id h023GvM12247; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:16:57 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:16:57 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: alpha@FreeBSD.org, kde@FreeBSD.org Subject: KDE broken on alpha Message-ID: <20030101191657.A12240@citusc.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/alpha-5-latest/kdemultimedia-3.0.4.log http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/alpha-5-latest/kdeutils-3.0.4_1.log This needs to be fixed ASAP if there's to be a KDE in the alpha release. Kris --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+E68oWry0BWjoQKURAoU9AKDvxBxWCQ1INFcGiOgpC5GKz7H+6ACg4Q/v JP/9PAV2hV54HwaNm+4KgiE= =jbWg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jan 1 19:53:15 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F5237B401; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:53:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from citusc.usc.edu (citusc.usc.edu [128.125.38.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2CE43ED4; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:53:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@citusc.usc.edu) Received: (from kris@localhost) by citusc.usc.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2) id h023rD012385; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:53:13 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:53:13 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: obrien@FreeBSD.org, kan@FreeBSD.org, alpha@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org Subject: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha Message-ID: <20030101195313.A12381@citusc.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/alpha-5-latest/gdm2-2.4.0.12.log This apepars to be repeatable on bento..can anyone else reproduce it? Kris --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+E7epWry0BWjoQKURAk4UAJ9ScnHJFBd7qtQZv+2t3bDr5cyYogCeKXad c3EKCWgQzXKh3G3UzrE/m10= =i3jH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jan 1 20:59:17 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A1037B401; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 20:59:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0AE843EA9; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 20:59:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h024x7789405; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 20:59:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 20:59:07 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob X-X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Jake Burkholder , Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/conf files src/sys/dev/zs z8530reg.h zs.c src/sys/sparc64/conf GENERIC In-Reply-To: <200301011949.h01JnU6q075974@repoman.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20030101205816.V89373-100000@beppo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey- this would be really cool for Alpha 8400/8200s as well as that's also the console uart. On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Jake Burkholder wrote: > jake 2003/01/01 11:49:30 PST > > Modified files: > sys/conf files > sys/sparc64/conf GENERIC > Added files: > sys/dev/zs z8530reg.h zs.c > Log: > Add a driver for the Zilog 8530 dual uart found in Ultra 1s and Ultra 2s. > With a 1 byte transmit fifo, 3 byte receive fifo, and wierd multiplexed I/O > designed for a Z80 cpu, this chip redefines suckage. > > Based on the openbsd and netbsd drivers. Only really works as a console, > modem support is not complete since I can't test it. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.742 +1 -0 src/sys/conf/files > 1.1 +465 -0 src/sys/dev/zs/z8530reg.h (new) > 1.1 +1164 -0 src/sys/dev/zs/zs.c (new) > 1.42 +1 -0 src/sys/sparc64/conf/GENERIC > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jan 1 21:41:46 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1A137B401; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 21:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from k6.locore.ca (k6.locore.ca [198.96.117.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DAA43EB2; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 21:41:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jake@k6.locore.ca) Received: from k6.locore.ca (jake@localhost.locore.ca [127.0.0.1]) by k6.locore.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h025xnuP073641; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 00:59:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jake@k6.locore.ca) Received: (from jake@localhost) by k6.locore.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h025xn1I073640; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 00:59:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 00:59:49 -0500 From: Jake Burkholder To: Matthew Jacob Cc: wilko@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/conf files src/sys/dev/zs z8530reg.h zs.c src/sys/sparc64/conf GENERIC Message-ID: <20030102005949.W43538@locore.ca> References: <200301011949.h01JnU6q075974@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030101205816.V89373-100000@beppo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20030101205816.V89373-100000@beppo>; from mjacob@feral.com on Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 08:59:07PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Apparently, On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 08:59:07PM -0800, Matthew Jacob said words to the effect of; > > Hey- this would be really cool for Alpha 8400/8200s as well as that's > also the console uart. > Ahh, cool. I didn't know what other machines this would show up in so I didn't split the driver into bus specific front ends, but if someone wants to do that and get it working on alpha that's fine with me. Jake > > On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Jake Burkholder wrote: > > > jake 2003/01/01 11:49:30 PST > > > > Modified files: > > sys/conf files > > sys/sparc64/conf GENERIC > > Added files: > > sys/dev/zs z8530reg.h zs.c > > Log: > > Add a driver for the Zilog 8530 dual uart found in Ultra 1s and Ultra 2s. > > With a 1 byte transmit fifo, 3 byte receive fifo, and wierd multiplexed I/O > > designed for a Z80 cpu, this chip redefines suckage. > > > > Based on the openbsd and netbsd drivers. Only really works as a console, > > modem support is not complete since I can't test it. > > > > Revision Changes Path > > 1.742 +1 -0 src/sys/conf/files > > 1.1 +465 -0 src/sys/dev/zs/z8530reg.h (new) > > 1.1 +1164 -0 src/sys/dev/zs/zs.c (new) > > 1.42 +1 -0 src/sys/sparc64/conf/GENERIC > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jan 1 22:13:37 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B474937B401; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 22:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rdu57-17-158.nc.rr.com [66.57.17.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E5143EA9; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 22:13:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h026BUs7051439; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 01:11:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Subject: Re: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Kris Kennaway Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, kan@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD GNOME Users In-Reply-To: <20030101195313.A12381@citusc.usc.edu> References: <20030101195313.A12381@citusc.usc.edu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-700Ioi0/uM26gE64dsLf" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Message-Id: <1041487929.64114.21.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.1 Date: 02 Jan 2003 01:12:10 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 version=2.43 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=-700Ioi0/uM26gE64dsLf Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 22:53, Kris Kennaway wrote: > http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/alpha-5-latest/gdm2-2.4.0.12.log >=20 > This apepars to be repeatable on bento..can anyone else reproduce it? I don't have an Alpha with which to test. Any chance I can get my hands on bento's environment, or some other Alpha with the necessary GNOME libraries installed? This doesn't happen on x86. Joe >=20 > Kris --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-700Ioi0/uM26gE64dsLf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+E9g5b2iPiv4Uz4cRAodsAJsFV+vJnv9HbvrPeC1cjoOPHpCCeACdGVMV aftTxPxzQ+Pa9/Vwprilkds= =PkYg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-700Ioi0/uM26gE64dsLf-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 2 3:22:26 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6206837B401; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 03:22:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D4443E4A; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 03:22:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h02BMGfE052653; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:22:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h02BMCdL052648; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:22:12 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:22:12 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jake Burkholder Cc: Matthew Jacob , wilko@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/conf files src/sys/dev/zs z8530reg.h zs.c src/sys/sparc64/conf GENERIC Message-ID: <20030102122212.A52619@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200301011949.h01JnU6q075974@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030101205816.V89373-100000@beppo> <20030102005949.W43538@locore.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20030102005949.W43538@locore.ca>; from jake@locore.ca on Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 12:59:49AM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 12:59:49AM -0500, Jake Burkholder wrote: TurboLaser support was broken last time I checked. These days I'm probably the only one with access to such a beast (at work that is). Now that NASA Ames no longer has them / Matt can no longer use them. So I would not hold my breath.. Wilko > Apparently, On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 08:59:07PM -0800, > Matthew Jacob said words to the effect of; > > > > > Hey- this would be really cool for Alpha 8400/8200s as well as that's > > also the console uart. > > > > Ahh, cool. I didn't know what other machines this would show up in so > I didn't split the driver into bus specific front ends, but if someone > wants to do that and get it working on alpha that's fine with me. > > Jake > > > > > On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Jake Burkholder wrote: > > > > > jake 2003/01/01 11:49:30 PST > > > > > > Modified files: > > > sys/conf files > > > sys/sparc64/conf GENERIC > > > Added files: > > > sys/dev/zs z8530reg.h zs.c > > > Log: > > > Add a driver for the Zilog 8530 dual uart found in Ultra 1s and Ultra 2s. > > > With a 1 byte transmit fifo, 3 byte receive fifo, and wierd multiplexed I/O > > > designed for a Z80 cpu, this chip redefines suckage. > > > > > > Based on the openbsd and netbsd drivers. Only really works as a console, > > > modem support is not complete since I can't test it. > > > > > > Revision Changes Path > > > 1.742 +1 -0 src/sys/conf/files > > > 1.1 +465 -0 src/sys/dev/zs/z8530reg.h (new) > > > 1.1 +1164 -0 src/sys/dev/zs/zs.c (new) > > > 1.42 +1 -0 src/sys/sparc64/conf/GENERIC > > > ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 2 5:22:54 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFA937B401; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 05:22:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from qescan3.qgraph.com (QESCAN3.qgraph.com [206.158.124.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2BD43ED1; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 05:22:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Aaron.Schroeder@qg.com) Received: by sxsmtp3.qgraph.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 07:21:23 -0600 Message-ID: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3479@waexch1.qgraph.com> From: "Schroeder, Aaron" To: 'Joe Marcus Clarke' , Kris Kennaway Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, kan@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD GNOME Users Subject: RE: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 07:21:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I can give you a shell account on one of my alphas to test/patch/fix this problem... AJ Schroeder -----Original Message----- From: Joe Marcus Clarke [mailto:marcus@marcuscom.com] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:12 AM To: Kris Kennaway Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG; kan@FreeBSD.ORG; alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; FreeBSD GNOME Users Subject: Re: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 22:53, Kris Kennaway wrote: > http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/alpha-5-latest/gdm2-2.4.0.12.log > > This apepars to be repeatable on bento..can anyone else reproduce it? I don't have an Alpha with which to test. Any chance I can get my hands on bento's environment, or some other Alpha with the necessary GNOME libraries installed? This doesn't happen on x86. Joe > > Kris -- PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 2 9:23:31 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB09C37B405; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:23:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rdu57-17-158.nc.rr.com [66.57.17.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074B043EE6; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:23:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [10.2.1.4] (vpn-client-4.marcuscom.com [10.2.1.4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h02HLNs7056351; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:21:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Subject: RE: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: "Schroeder, Aaron" Cc: Kris Kennaway , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, kan@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD GNOME Users In-Reply-To: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3479@waexch1.qgraph.com> References: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3479@waexch1.qgraph.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-NkvgMC7w1KRpu9Yk14uX" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Message-Id: <1041528122.309.4.camel@gyros> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 02 Jan 2003 12:22:02 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUPERLONG_LINE version=2.43 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=-NkvgMC7w1KRpu9Yk14uX Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 08:21, Schroeder, Aaron wrote: > I can give you a shell account on one of my alphas to test/patch/fix this > problem... That would be great. Attached is my ssh2 public key. Do you already have GNOME 2 installed? Joe > > AJ Schroeder > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Marcus Clarke [mailto:marcus@marcuscom.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:12 AM > To: Kris Kennaway > Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG; kan@FreeBSD.ORG; alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; FreeBSD > GNOME Users > Subject: Re: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha > > > On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 22:53, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/alpha-5-latest/gdm2-2.4.0.12.log > > > > This apepars to be repeatable on bento..can anyone else reproduce it? > > I don't have an Alpha with which to test. Any chance I can get my hands > on bento's environment, or some other Alpha with the necessary GNOME > libraries installed? This doesn't happen on x86. > > Joe > > > > > Kris -- PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-NkvgMC7w1KRpu9Yk14uX Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=id_dsa.pub Content-Type: text/plain; name=id_dsa.pub; charset=ISO8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ssh-dss 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 marcus@shumai.marcuscom.com --=-NkvgMC7w1KRpu9Yk14uX-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 2 11:20:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA0E37B41F; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from qescan2.qgraph.com (QESCAN2.qgraph.com [206.158.124.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E2F43EC2; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:20:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Aaron.Schroeder@qg.com) Received: by sxsmtp2.qgraph.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:19:02 -0600 Message-ID: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3485@waexch1.qgraph.com> From: "Schroeder, Aaron" To: 'Joe Marcus Clarke' Cc: Kris Kennaway , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, kan@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD GNOME Users Subject: RE: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:19:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There isn't much running on this machine: apache is about it, it's really a test machine. As far as GNOME2, I didn't think that it built/installed on the alpha. I can attempt to install GNOME2 if you want. AJ -----Original Message----- From: Joe Marcus Clarke [mailto:marcus@marcuscom.com] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 11:22 AM To: Schroeder, Aaron Cc: Kris Kennaway; obrien@FreeBSD.ORG; kan@FreeBSD.ORG; alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; FreeBSD GNOME Users Subject: RE: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 08:21, Schroeder, Aaron wrote: > I can give you a shell account on one of my alphas to test/patch/fix this > problem... That would be great. Attached is my ssh2 public key. Do you already have GNOME 2 installed? Joe > > AJ Schroeder > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Marcus Clarke [mailto:marcus@marcuscom.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:12 AM > To: Kris Kennaway > Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG; kan@FreeBSD.ORG; alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; FreeBSD > GNOME Users > Subject: Re: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha > > > On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 22:53, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/alpha-5-latest/gdm2-2.4.0.12.log > > > > This apepars to be repeatable on bento..can anyone else reproduce it? > > I don't have an Alpha with which to test. Any chance I can get my hands > on bento's environment, or some other Alpha with the necessary GNOME > libraries installed? This doesn't happen on x86. > > Joe > > > > > Kris -- PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 2 11:26:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039AF37B401; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:26:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rdu57-17-158.nc.rr.com [66.57.17.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B617843ED1; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:26:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [10.2.1.4] (vpn-client-4.marcuscom.com [10.2.1.4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h02JO3s7057869; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 14:24:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Subject: RE: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: "Schroeder, Aaron" Cc: Kris Kennaway , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, kan@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD GNOME Users In-Reply-To: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3485@waexch1.qgraph.com> References: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3485@waexch1.qgraph.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Message-Id: <1041535482.309.39.camel@gyros> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 02 Jan 2003 14:24:42 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02 version=2.43 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 14:19, Schroeder, Aaron wrote: > There isn't much running on this machine: apache is about it, it's really a > test machine. As far as GNOME2, I didn't think that it built/installed on > the alpha. Everything should build and install except gdm2 apparently. > > I can attempt to install GNOME2 if you want. If you could, that would be great. I assume gdm2 will fail to link. Then, if you could give me access, I can poke around for a workaround. Joe > > AJ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Marcus Clarke [mailto:marcus@marcuscom.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 11:22 AM > To: Schroeder, Aaron > Cc: Kris Kennaway; obrien@FreeBSD.ORG; kan@FreeBSD.ORG; > alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; FreeBSD GNOME Users > Subject: RE: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha > > > On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 08:21, Schroeder, Aaron wrote: > > I can give you a shell account on one of my alphas to test/patch/fix this > > problem... > > That would be great. Attached is my ssh2 public key. Do you already > have GNOME 2 installed? > > Joe > > > > > AJ Schroeder > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joe Marcus Clarke [mailto:marcus@marcuscom.com] > > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:12 AM > > To: Kris Kennaway > > Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG; kan@FreeBSD.ORG; alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; FreeBSD > > GNOME Users > > Subject: Re: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha > > > > > > On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 22:53, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/alpha-5-latest/gdm2-2.4.0.12.log > > > > > > This apepars to be repeatable on bento..can anyone else reproduce it? > > > > I don't have an Alpha with which to test. Any chance I can get my hands > > on bento's environment, or some other Alpha with the necessary GNOME > > libraries installed? This doesn't happen on x86. > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > Kris -- PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 2 15:35:45 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3AE37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsl-sj-66-219-69-169.broadviewnet.net (dsl-sj-66-219-69-169.broadviewnet.net [66.219.69.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE18843E4A for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:35:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@nodewarrior.org) Received: (qmail 24616 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Jan 2003 23:35:34 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:35:34 -0800 From: Chris Palmer To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe Message-ID: <20030102233534.GU13050@nodewarrior.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Ideology: Anything But Microsoft Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe chris@nodewarrior.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 2 15:36: 7 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFCA37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:36:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from viefep11-int.chello.at (viefep11-int.chello.at [213.46.255.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D55F43EB2 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:36:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frts@simba.sch.bme.hu) Received: from nala ([213.222.180.210]) by viefep11-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with SMTP id <20030102233557.KLIW3835.viefep11-int.chello.at@nala> for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:35:57 +0100 Message-ID: <01cc01c2b2b7$b357a4e0$d2b4ded5@nala> From: "Istvan Gyenes" To: Subject: 5.0-RC2 install error on Avanti Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:35:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello All, I've tried to install FreeBSD-5.0-RC2 on an Alphaserver 300 4/266. The console was a serial one (the SRM env was also set to serial). I've got a lot of: "scrn_update(): scp->end 0 > size_of_screen!! scrn_update(): scp->start -1 < 0" errors. The weird thing the same cd worked well on the EB164. The only difference between the two machine that the EB has no video card. Could it be the problem? Thanks, __ Steve Here is the console output: V7.0-9, built on Mar 18 1999 at 13:41:11 >>> >>>sho conf Firmware SRM Console: V7.0-9 ARC Console: 4.58 PALcode: VMS PALcode V5.56-2, OSF PALcode X1.46-2 Serial Rom: V4.6 Diag Rom: V1.6 Processor DECchip (tm) 21064A-2 266Mhz 2MB Cache MEMORY 256 Meg of System Memory Bank 0 = 256 Mbytes(64 MB Per Simm) Starting at 0x0 Bank 1 = No Memory Detected PCI Bus Bus 00 Slot 06: NCR 810 Scsi Controller pka0.7.0.6.0 SCSI Bus ID 7 dka0.0.0.6.0 RZ28D dka400.4.0.6.0 RRD46 Bus 00 Slot 07: Intel SIO 82378 Bus 00 Slot 11: DECchip 21040 Network Controller ewa0.0.0.11.0 00-00-F8-23-B1-C4 Bus 00 Slot 12: Vendor: 1274 Device: 1371 Bus 00 Slot 13: Digital TGA2 Graphics Controller ISA Slot Device Name Type Enabled BaseAddr IRQ DMA 0 0 MOUSE Embedded Yes 60 12 1 KBD Embedded Yes 60 1 2 COM1 Embedded Yes 3f8 4 3 COM2 Embedded Yes 2f8 3 4 LPT1 Embedded Yes 3bc 7 5 FLOPPY Embedded Yes 3f0 6 2 >>>sho dev dka0.0.0.6.0 DKA0 RZ28D 0010 dka400.4.0.6.0 DKA400 RRD46 0557 dva0.0.0.0.1 DVA0 ewa0.0.0.11.0 EWA0 00-00-F8-23-B1-C4 pka0.7.0.6.0 PKA0 SCSI Bus ID 7 >>>b dka400 (boot dka400.4.0.6.0 -flags A) block 0 of dka400.4.0.6.0 is a valid boot block reading 390 blocks from dka400.4.0.6.0 bootstrap code read in base = 1f2000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 30c00 initializing HWRPB at 2000 initializing page table at 1e4000 initializing machine state setting affinity to the primary CPU jumping to bootstrap code Console: SRM firmware console VMS PAL rev: 0x1000000010538 OSF PAL rev: 0x100000002012e Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded. FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 1.2 (root@mithlond.btc.adaptec.com, Wed Dec 18 11:11:06 GMT 2002) Memory: 262144 k Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf /boot/kernel/kernel data=0x433d40+0x66680 syms=[0x8+0x5e590+0x8+0x4836d] - Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [/boot/kernel/kernel]... Entering /boot/kernel/kernel at 0xfffffc000033da30... Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-RC2 #0: Wed Dec 18 17:06:35 GMT 2002 root@mithlond.btc.adaptec.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xfffffc0000c7c000. Preloaded mfs_root "/boot/mfsroot" at 0xfffffc0000c7c0d0. AlphaStation 200/400 ("Avanti") AlphaStation 250 4/266, 268MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV45 (21064A) major=6 minor=0 OSF PAL rev: 0x100000002012e real memory = 266387456 (254 MB) avail memory = 247062528 (235 MB) Initializing GEOMetry subsystem md0: Preloaded image 4423680 bytes at 0xfffffc0000840cd0 apecs0: pci0: on pcib0 sym0: <810> port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x82008000-0x820080ff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0 sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking sym0: interrupting at ISA irq 11 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 de0: port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x82008100-0x8200817f irq 5 at device 11.0 on pci0 de0: interrupting at ISA irq 5 de0: DEC 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.6 de0: address 00:00:f8:23:b1:c4 pci0: at device 12.0 (no driver attached) tga0: mem 0x88000000-0x88ffffff irq 10 at device 13.0 on pci0 tga0: Board type (null) tga0: 1024 x 0, 8bpp, IBM561 RAMDAC tga0: interrupting at ISA irq 10 tga0: TGA2 (21130) pass 2 ata0 at port 0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa0 ata0: interrupting at ISA irq 14 ata1 at port 0x376,0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa0 ata1: interrupting at ISA irq 15 atkbdc0: at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 fdc0: at port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 ppc0: at port 0x3bc-0x3c3 irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Polled port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc0: interrupting at ISA irq 7 sc0: on isa0 sc0: Unknown <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A sio1: interrupting at ISA irq 3 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 0.976 msec Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "alpha" frequency 267997736 Hz Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle scrn_update(): scp->end 0 > size_of_screen!! scrn_update(): scp->start -1 < 0 scrn_update(): scp->end 0 > size_of_screen!! scrn_update(): scp->start -1 < 0 scrn_update(): scp->end 0 > size_of_screen!! scrn_update(): scp->start -1 < 0 scrn_update(): scp->end 0 > size_of_screen!! scrn_update(): scp->start -1 < 0 scrn_update(): scp->end 0 > size_of_screen!! scrn_update(): scp->start -1 < 0 scrn_update(): scp->end 0 > size_of_screen!! scrn_update(): scp->start -1 < 0 scrn_update(): scp->end 0 > size_of_screen!! scrn_update(): scp->start -1 < 0 .....and repeats forever To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 2 15:45:27 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC46537B405 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:45:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BCA43EB2 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:45:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h02NjNro002020 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:45:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id h02NjIv48850; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:45:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15892.53006.681799.226399@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:45:18 -0500 (EST) To: "Istvan Gyenes" Cc: Subject: Re: 5.0-RC2 install error on Avanti In-Reply-To: <01cc01c2b2b7$b357a4e0$d2b4ded5@nala> References: <01cc01c2b2b7$b357a4e0$d2b4ded5@nala> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Istvan Gyenes writes: > Hello All, > > I've tried to install FreeBSD-5.0-RC2 on an Alphaserver 300 4/266. The > console was a serial one (the SRM env was also set to serial). > > I've got a lot of: > "scrn_update(): scp->end 0 > size_of_screen!! > scrn_update(): scp->start -1 < 0" > errors. > The weird thing the same cd worked well on the EB164. > The only difference between the two machine that the EB has no video card. > Could it be the problem? Yes: > tga0: mem 0x88000000-0x88ffffff > irq 10 at device 13.0 on pci0 > tga0: Board type (null) > tga0: 1024 x 0, 8bpp, IBM561 RAMDAC > tga0: interrupting at ISA irq 10 > tga0: TGA2 (21130) pass 2 The TGA driver is mostly experimental. And it is very poorly tested except on TGA1 boards. I think that the install should work just fine if you open the box and remove the graphics card. Sorry about that. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 2 15:54: 1 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B57537B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:54:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsl-sj-66-219-69-169.broadviewnet.net (dsl-sj-66-219-69-169.broadviewnet.net [66.219.69.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D82D143EC2 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:54:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@nodewarrior.org) Received: (qmail 18362 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Jan 2003 23:54:00 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:54:00 -0800 From: Chris Palmer To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Apology Message-ID: <20030102235400.GZ13050@nodewarrior.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Ideology: Anything But Microsoft Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I apologize for that subscribe request I sent to the list. I do know better. -- Chris music is what numbers feel like San Francisco, CA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 2 19:48:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6458F37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:48:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from view.scoundrelz.net (OSH-202-11.northpiertower.com [66.146.202.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A6F43E4A for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:48:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hemi@scoundrelz.net) Received: from view.scoundrelz.net (localhost.scoundrelz.net [127.0.0.1]) by view.scoundrelz.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h033m3VO001728 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:48:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hemi@scoundrelz.net) Received: from localhost (hemi@localhost) by view.scoundrelz.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id h033m39T001725 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:48:03 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: view.scoundrelz.net: hemi owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:48:02 -0600 (CST) From: Josh Tolbert To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Sound frustration. Message-ID: <20030102213810.P1485-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi guys, I have a PC164LX, 533MHz 21164A and 1G RAM. I'm planning on using the machine for a workstation and sound would be nice. I've been fighting with this machine sound-wise for about three days now, so I decided to ask for help. In the machine I have a 3DFx VoodooIII/2000, a DEC 21140 NIC (eventually to be replaced by an Intel Pro/100 if the problems with fxp on Alpha have been resolved) and a Symbios/LSI SYM22910 dual-channel, U2W SCSI card (which appears to be bootable, according to SRM). I have the Symbios card in the bottom (first 64-bit PCI slot), the VoodooIII in the bottom PCI slot and the DEC NIC in the top PCI slot (closest to the CPU). If I put any sound card on the 32-bit bus, I have serious problems with the IDE drives in the machine. The problems eventually cause the machine to panic when it tries to detect the drives and eventually times out. I've tried four different sound cards: a Creative CT4810, which shows up as a CT5880 to FreeBSD, two ES1370 variants (both of which detect as Creative "formerly Ensoniq" cards) and one Diamond-branded Aureal Vortex card that the machine won't boot with. I've been testing the sound cards in the top 64-bit PCI slot. What sound cards work with this setup? What am I doing wrong? I can provide you with any information about the machine you request. Eventually I'm going to be moving to an all-SCSI setup; will that eliminate the "conflicts" the sound cards are having with the IDE controller/drives? Any help you can give me would be appreciated. Thanks, Josh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 2 20:20:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF5D37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:20:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net (bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F69A43EC2 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:20:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0035.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.35] helo=mindspring.com) by bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18UJJJ-0001rs-00; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 20:19:54 -0800 Message-ID: <3E150F12.DEBB976E@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 20:18:26 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Tolbert Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound frustration. References: <20030102213810.P1485-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a4e27d3b28b82c91731043bb6658293da7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Josh Tolbert wrote: > Hi guys, > I have a PC164LX, 533MHz 21164A and 1G RAM. I'm planning on using > the machine for a workstation and sound would be nice. I've been fighting > with this machine sound-wise for about three days now, so I decided to ask > for help. I'm pretty sure that this box has an embedded ESS1888 or CS4231 chip, doesn't it? Can't you use that instead of sticking in your own sound card? Back when I had a 164-based board it has the Crystal Semiconductor sound chip. If not, you might want to try reading: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.6.2R/hardware-alpha.html ...specifically: >>> SET PCI_PARITY OFF There are known parity problems, that could interfere with hardware trying to use the same bus, given that they aren't cleared like you'd expect. > If I put any sound card on the 32-bit bus, I have serious problems > with the IDE drives in the machine. The problems eventually cause the > machine to panic when it tries to detect the drives and eventually times > out. I don't know which bridge this thing has, but a lot of the old PCI bridges used to be limited to 2 bus master DMA devices, and attempts to install more than 2 ended up with bogus mastering negotiations happening. Other than that, you can hope someone else says something... that's all I can say about it, myself, sorry. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 2 20:39:54 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC4337B401; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from citusc.usc.edu (citusc.usc.edu [128.125.38.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98B643E4A; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:39:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@citusc.usc.edu) Received: (from kris@localhost) by citusc.usc.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2) id h034dmL22097; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:39:48 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:39:48 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Schroeder, Aaron" Cc: "'Joe Marcus Clarke'" , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, kan@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD GNOME Users Subject: Re: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha Message-ID: <20030102203948.B22078@citusc.usc.edu> References: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3479@waexch1.qgraph.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MW5yreqqjyrRcusr" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3479@waexch1.qgraph.com>; from Aaron.Schroeder@qg.com on Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 07:21:20AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --MW5yreqqjyrRcusr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 07:21:20AM -0600, Schroeder, Aaron wrote: > I can give you a shell account on one of my alphas to test/patch/fix this > problem... It might need to be running an up-to-date RELENG_5_0 tree to trigger this problem. Thanks for the offer though. Kris --MW5yreqqjyrRcusr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+FRQTWry0BWjoQKURAjAZAJ9jduxL28LuPKYLlAb3RNdhb7zViQCdHOU/ JZQF3JK9eSn8numnptLL/II= =VeJa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MW5yreqqjyrRcusr-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 2 20:42: 5 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1221737B401; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:42:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rdu57-17-158.nc.rr.com [66.57.17.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BC243EB2; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:42:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h034eNs7061838; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:40:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Subject: Re: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Kris Kennaway Cc: "Schroeder, Aaron" , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, kan@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD GNOME Users In-Reply-To: <20030102203948.B22078@citusc.usc.edu> References: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3479@waexch1.qgraph.com> <20030102203948.B22078@citusc.usc.edu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-LikOyJDjkkbFLATGqG5S" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Message-Id: <1041568868.99630.11.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.1 Date: 02 Jan 2003 23:41:09 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 version=2.43 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=-LikOyJDjkkbFLATGqG5S Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 23:39, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 07:21:20AM -0600, Schroeder, Aaron wrote: > > I can give you a shell account on one of my alphas to test/patch/fix th= is > > problem... >=20 > It might need to be running an up-to-date RELENG_5_0 tree to trigger > this problem. Thanks for the offer though. That's what he has. I just reproduced the problem. I'm taking a deeper look now. Joe >=20 > Kris --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-LikOyJDjkkbFLATGqG5S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+FRRkb2iPiv4Uz4cRAte7AJ0YMNxwBsCSJhOSz+uH/SDVzyMGxwCgq/x/ ZIgZnqB6f71t9fqLWXhDVMc= =vqPp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-LikOyJDjkkbFLATGqG5S-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 2 20:58:10 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88DD37B401; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlas.butler.tmscomputers.com (mke-65-26-215-65.wi.rr.com [65.26.215.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D711B43EA9; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:58:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajschroeder@BUTLER.TMSComputers.com) Subject: RE: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:57:53 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha Thread-Index: AcKy4i5VTqSgI4j3SJ+RJiEBwodyuwAAmGSQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 From: "Schroeder, Aaron" content-class: urn:content-classes:message To: "Kris Kennaway" , "Schroeder, Aaron" Cc: "Joe Marcus Clarke" , , , , "FreeBSD GNOME Users" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's not the most up-to-date, but at least it's somewhat new... :-/ [ajschroe@poseidon ajschroe]$ uname -a FreeBSD poseidon.butler.tmscomputers.com 5.0-RC FreeBSD 5.0-RC #0: Tue Dec 10 18:47:55 CST 2002 root@poseidon.butler.tmscomputers.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/POSEIDON alpha -----Original Message----- From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:kris@citusc.usc.edu]=20 Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:40 PM To: Schroeder, Aaron Cc: 'Joe Marcus Clarke'; obrien@FreeBSD.ORG; kan@FreeBSD.ORG; alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; FreeBSD GNOME Users Subject: Re: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 07:21:20AM -0600, Schroeder, Aaron wrote: > I can give you a shell account on one of my alphas to test/patch/fix this > problem... It might need to be running an up-to-date RELENG_5_0 tree to trigger this problem. Thanks for the offer though. Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 2 21:20: 5 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD83637B401; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rdu57-17-158.nc.rr.com [66.57.17.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED04F43EC5; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h035Hus7062054; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:17:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Subject: Re: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Kris Kennaway Cc: "Schroeder, Aaron" , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, kan@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD GNOME Users In-Reply-To: <20030102203948.B22078@citusc.usc.edu> References: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3479@waexch1.qgraph.com> <20030102203948.B22078@citusc.usc.edu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-MNqX+Usjqbx7ChiRuFfP" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Message-Id: <1041571122.99630.15.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.1 Date: 03 Jan 2003 00:18:42 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 version=2.43 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=-MNqX+Usjqbx7ChiRuFfP Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 23:39, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 07:21:20AM -0600, Schroeder, Aaron wrote: > > I can give you a shell account on one of my alphas to test/patch/fix th= is > > problem... >=20 > It might need to be running an up-to-date RELENG_5_0 tree to trigger > this problem. Thanks for the offer though. Good news. I think I have it fixed. I'm running some additional tests, but it looks like Alpha -CURRENT doesn't like our little libtool recipe with gdm2. Joe >=20 > Kris --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-MNqX+Usjqbx7ChiRuFfP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+FR0xb2iPiv4Uz4cRAnC6AJsEwTmhgZP7QW3n7Zhj3IRFt4QaKQCfePxU dAqWW+4VvbElatZkBWkST9g= =QbCt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-MNqX+Usjqbx7ChiRuFfP-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 2 21:36: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FADD37B401; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rdu57-17-158.nc.rr.com [66.57.17.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A61343EB2; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:36:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h035Xvs7062170; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:33:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Subject: Re: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Kris Kennaway Cc: "Schroeder, Aaron" , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, kan@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD GNOME Users In-Reply-To: <20030102203948.B22078@citusc.usc.edu> References: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3479@waexch1.qgraph.com> <20030102203948.B22078@citusc.usc.edu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-0irT8vvqjEDOZR8vzdZ7" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Message-Id: <1041572083.99630.24.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.1 Date: 03 Jan 2003 00:34:43 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 version=2.43 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=-0irT8vvqjEDOZR8vzdZ7 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 23:39, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 07:21:20AM -0600, Schroeder, Aaron wrote: > > I can give you a shell account on one of my alphas to test/patch/fix th= is > > problem... >=20 > It might need to be running an up-to-date RELENG_5_0 tree to trigger > this problem. Thanks for the offer though. Problem appears to be solved with my recent commit to gdm2. Thanks, Aaron, for letting me use your machine. Kris, can you adjust the tag to take this change into account? Joe >=20 > Kris --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-0irT8vvqjEDOZR8vzdZ7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+FSDzb2iPiv4Uz4cRAhZlAJ99WBydCda4ElMY4B/e56R+dgZ6WgCcC+pL 29agcbDKhkRn1jFKFkH/sB8= =e/e2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-0irT8vvqjEDOZR8vzdZ7-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 2 21:55:26 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B299637B401; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:55:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from citusc.usc.edu (citusc.usc.edu [128.125.38.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3184843E4A; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:55:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@citusc.usc.edu) Received: (from kris@localhost) by citusc.usc.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2) id h035tLa22634; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:55:21 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:55:20 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Joe Marcus Clarke Cc: "Schroeder, Aaron" , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, kan@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD GNOME Users Subject: Re: gdm2 ICE on 5.0 alpha Message-ID: <20030102215520.A22627@citusc.usc.edu> References: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3479@waexch1.qgraph.com> <20030102203948.B22078@citusc.usc.edu> <1041572083.99630.24.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <1041572083.99630.24.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com>; from marcus@marcuscom.com on Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 12:34:43AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 12:34:43AM -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 23:39, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 07:21:20AM -0600, Schroeder, Aaron wrote: > > > I can give you a shell account on one of my alphas to test/patch/fix = this > > > problem... > >=20 > > It might need to be running an up-to-date RELENG_5_0 tree to trigger > > this problem. Thanks for the offer though. >=20 > Problem appears to be solved with my recent commit to gdm2. Thanks, > Aaron, for letting me use your machine. Kris, can you adjust the tag to > take this change into account? Will do, thanks! Kris --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+FSXIWry0BWjoQKURArNTAJ4meOpriBocqlA/+fQb+pyxhAyHmgCdExLX pI5/i4SWWpUcFXPAo72entU= =FBaa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 2 23:26:34 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122F137B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:26:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from view.scoundrelz.net (OSH-202-11.northpiertower.com [66.146.202.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15FC443EC5 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:26:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hemi@scoundrelz.net) Received: from view.scoundrelz.net (localhost.scoundrelz.net [127.0.0.1]) by view.scoundrelz.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h037QEVO007121; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 01:26:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hemi@scoundrelz.net) Received: from localhost (hemi@localhost) by view.scoundrelz.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id h037QDvm007118; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 01:26:13 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: view.scoundrelz.net: hemi owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 01:26:13 -0600 (CST) From: Josh Tolbert To: Terry Lambert Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound frustration. In-Reply-To: <3E150F12.DEBB976E@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20030103012017.K6469-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Terry, On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: > Josh Tolbert wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I have a PC164LX, 533MHz 21164A and 1G RAM. I'm planning on using > > the machine for a workstation and sound would be nice. I've been fighting > > with this machine sound-wise for about three days now, so I decided to ask > > for help. > > I'm pretty sure that this box has an embedded ESS1888 or CS4231 > chip, doesn't it? Can't you use that instead of sticking in your > own sound card? Back when I had a 164-based board it has the > Crystal Semiconductor sound chip. > > If not, you might want to try reading: > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.6.2R/hardware-alpha.html > > ...specifically: > > >>> SET PCI_PARITY OFF > > There are known parity problems, that could interfere with > hardware trying to use the same bus, given that they aren't > cleared like you'd expect. > > Thanks for the suggestions. The PC164LX doesn't have integrated sound and PCI_PARITY was disabled a while ago. What sound cards use this magic ES1888 chip that everyone says works? > > If I put any sound card on the 32-bit bus, I have serious problems > > with the IDE drives in the machine. The problems eventually cause the > > machine to panic when it tries to detect the drives and eventually times > > out. > > I don't know which bridge this thing has, but a lot of the old > PCI bridges used to be limited to 2 bus master DMA devices, and > attempts to install more than 2 ended up with bogus mastering > negotiations happening. > > Other than that, you can hope someone else says something... that's > all I can say about it, myself, sorry. > > -- Terry > Thanks again, Josh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 0:33:33 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02A637B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:33:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from view.scoundrelz.net (OSH-202-11.northpiertower.com [66.146.202.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8383043EC2 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:33:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hemi@scoundrelz.net) Received: from view.scoundrelz.net (localhost.scoundrelz.net [127.0.0.1]) by view.scoundrelz.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h038XLVO008660; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 02:33:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hemi@scoundrelz.net) Received: from localhost (hemi@localhost) by view.scoundrelz.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id h038XLah008657; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 02:33:21 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: view.scoundrelz.net: hemi owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 02:33:21 -0600 (CST) From: Josh Tolbert To: Terry Lambert Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound frustration. In-Reply-To: <20030103012017.K6469-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> Message-ID: <20030103023153.D8632-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi again, On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Josh Tolbert wrote: > Hi Terry, > > On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > Josh Tolbert wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > I have a PC164LX, 533MHz 21164A and 1G RAM. I'm planning on using > > > the machine for a workstation and sound would be nice. I've been fighting > > > with this machine sound-wise for about three days now, so I decided to ask > > > for help. > > > > I'm pretty sure that this box has an embedded ESS1888 or CS4231 > > chip, doesn't it? Can't you use that instead of sticking in your > > own sound card? Back when I had a 164-based board it has the > > Crystal Semiconductor sound chip. > > > > If not, you might want to try reading: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.6.2R/hardware-alpha.html > > > > ...specifically: > > > > >>> SET PCI_PARITY OFF > > > > There are known parity problems, that could interfere with > > hardware trying to use the same bus, given that they aren't > > cleared like you'd expect. > > > > > > Thanks for the suggestions. The PC164LX doesn't have integrated > sound and PCI_PARITY was disabled a while ago. What sound cards use this > magic ES1888 chip that everyone says works? > On a whim, I started digging through my old ISA cards. I now have a Creative Vibra16 working just fine without a kernel recompile (pcm and sbc already compiled in). Unfortunately, it's an ISA card. Are there any PCI sound cards that work? I'd really prefer to use a PCI card. > > > If I put any sound card on the 32-bit bus, I have serious problems > > > with the IDE drives in the machine. The problems eventually cause the > > > machine to panic when it tries to detect the drives and eventually times > > > out. > > > > I don't know which bridge this thing has, but a lot of the old > > PCI bridges used to be limited to 2 bus master DMA devices, and > > attempts to install more than 2 ended up with bogus mastering > > negotiations happening. > > > > Other than that, you can hope someone else says something... that's > > all I can say about it, myself, sorry. > > > > -- Terry > > > > Thanks again, > Josh > > Thanks again, Josh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 0:47:54 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D1337B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:47:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from simba.sch.bme.hu (simba.sch.bme.hu [152.66.215.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4266A43ED4 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:47:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frts@simba.sch.bme.hu) Received: from localhost by simba.sch.bme.hu (8.8.8/1.1.22.3/04Nov00-0836PM) id JAA0000022368; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 09:49:55 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 09:49:54 +0100 (MET) From: Istvan Gyenes To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0-RC2 install error on Avanti In-Reply-To: <15892.53006.681799.226399@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks, I'll try that! -- Steve On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Istvan Gyenes writes: > > Hello All, > > > > I've tried to install FreeBSD-5.0-RC2 on an Alphaserver 300 4/266. The > > console was a serial one (the SRM env was also set to serial). > > > > I've got a lot of: > > "scrn_update(): scp->end 0 > size_of_screen!! > > scrn_update(): scp->start -1 < 0" > > errors. > > The weird thing the same cd worked well on the EB164. > > The only difference between the two machine that the EB has no video card. > > Could it be the problem? > > Yes: > > > tga0: mem 0x88000000-0x88ffffff > > irq 10 at device 13.0 on pci0 > > tga0: Board type (null) > > tga0: 1024 x 0, 8bpp, IBM561 RAMDAC > > tga0: interrupting at ISA irq 10 > > tga0: TGA2 (21130) pass 2 > > The TGA driver is mostly experimental. And it is very poorly tested > except on TGA1 boards. > > I think that the install should work just fine if you open the box and > remove the graphics card. > > Sorry about that. > > Drew > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 1:41:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1F537B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 01:41:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net (bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B7443E4A for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 01:41:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0014.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.198.14] helo=mindspring.com) by bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18UOK8-000541-00; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 01:41:05 -0800 Message-ID: <3E155A55.79A06BB4@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 01:39:33 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Tolbert Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound frustration. References: <20030103012017.K6469-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a4cc7f9fad405cd68f809a819992c1fc4c666fa475841a1c7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Josh Tolbert wrote: > Thanks for the suggestions. The PC164LX doesn't have integrated > sound and PCI_PARITY was disabled a while ago. What sound cards use this > magic ES1888 chip that everyone says works? It's the integrated sound chip on the PC164LX that you say it doesn't have. 8-) 8-). You may want to look at the labels on the chips on your motherboard, and look for 4 pins in a line that aren't connected to anything. As far as ISA vs. PCI, I believe there are problems with the DMA on the PCI, as I noted previously, and if you use the on-board ATA controllers, ou use up all your DMA channels that you can use in non-host-master mosde with your PCI bridge, before you start hving problems with negotiation, which is what your problems sounded like to me. Realize that I haven't had access to a 164 for years, now, though. One experiment you might try is to halve the amount of memory (so you have less than 1G in the thing), and see if this is a window problem. Note that ISA devices don't have such problems, because they don't use a large-but-limnited mapped window for I/O. If you were to rewrite the sound driver code to use the bus space stuff (not usefully documented, from what I can tell), then you might see the problem "go away": ISA bounces all it's I/O in buffers under 64M, which would avoid the window issue. Actually, the sound data rate is always going to be low enough that you should be able to live with an ISA interface. If you want reinforcement about some of the things I've said, google for `PC164LX sound alpha PCI'; Linux and NetBSD both have issues, except with specific cards (users in both camps recommend the DEC/Microsoft Sound System card, which is to say, an ISA card). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 2:41:27 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D1137B405 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 02:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A888143ED4 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 02:41:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h03AfNUe089483; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:41:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h03AfM7s089482; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:41:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:41:22 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Terry Lambert Cc: Josh Tolbert , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound frustration. Message-ID: <20030103114122.D87589@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030102213810.P1485-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> <3E150F12.DEBB976E@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3E150F12.DEBB976E@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 08:18:26PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 08:18:26PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > Josh Tolbert wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I have a PC164LX, 533MHz 21164A and 1G RAM. I'm planning on using > > the machine for a workstation and sound would be nice. I've been fighting > > with this machine sound-wise for about three days now, so I decided to ask > > for help. > > I'm pretty sure that this box has an embedded ESS1888 or CS4231 > chip, doesn't it? Can't you use that instead of sticking in your > own sound card? Back when I had a 164-based board it has the > Crystal Semiconductor sound chip. I'm sure a PWS (Miata) has embedded sound, and some of the older AS, like the Alphastation 200. But the LX? -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@freebie.xs4all.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 2:43:21 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED4337B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 02:43:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F73E43ED4 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 02:43:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h03AhIUe089530; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:43:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h03AhIkw089529; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:43:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:43:18 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Josh Tolbert Cc: Terry Lambert , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound frustration. Message-ID: <20030103114318.E87589@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <3E150F12.DEBB976E@mindspring.com> <20030103012017.K6469-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20030103012017.K6469-100000@view.scoundrelz.net>; from hemi@scoundrelz.net on Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 01:26:13AM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 01:26:13AM -0600, Josh Tolbert wrote: > Hi Terry, > > On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > Josh Tolbert wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > I have a PC164LX, 533MHz 21164A and 1G RAM. I'm planning on using > > > the machine for a workstation and sound would be nice. I've been fighting > > > with this machine sound-wise for about three days now, so I decided to ask > > > for help. If possible, can I have some digital pictures of this LX board, for my reference collection at http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/Alpha-gallery/ ? -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@freebie.xs4all.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 6: 1:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D70837B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 06:01:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F3F43EC2 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 06:01:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h03E1gro026556 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 09:01:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id h03E1bi49971; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 09:01:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15893.38849.156467.179518@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 09:01:37 -0500 (EST) To: Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound frustration. In-Reply-To: <20030103114318.E87589@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <3E150F12.DEBB976E@mindspring.com> <20030103012017.K6469-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> <20030103114318.E87589@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte writes: > On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 01:26:13AM -0600, Josh Tolbert wrote: > > Hi Terry, > > > > On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > > Josh Tolbert wrote: > > > > Hi guys, > > > > I have a PC164LX, 533MHz 21164A and 1G RAM. I'm planning on using > > > > the machine for a workstation and sound would be nice. I've been fighting > > > > with this machine sound-wise for about three days now, so I decided to ask > > > > for help. > > If possible, can I have some digital pictures of this LX board, > for my reference collection at > > http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/Alpha-gallery/ > > ? Terry is spouting misinformation as usual. There is no embedded sound on the PC164LX. Appended is a pciconf from a pc164lx I have access to. The graphics, scsi and network card are PCI cards, the PCI-ISA bridge and IDE chip are builtin. Drew PS: #pciconf -lv none0@pci0:5:0: class=0x030000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x883d5333 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'S3 Incorporated' device = '86C988 ViRGE/VX 3D GUI Accelerator' class = display subclass = VGA sym0@pci0:6:0: class=0x010000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x000f1000 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'LSI Logic (Was: Symbios Logic, NCR)' device = 'LSI53C875/E,LSI53C876/E PCI to Ultra SCSI I/O Processor' class = mass storage subclass = SCSI isab0@pci0:8:0: class=0x000000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x04848086 rev=0x43 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82378ZB/IB,82379AB PCI to ISA Bridge, System I/O' class = old subclass = non-VGA display device dc0@pci0:9:0: class=0x020000 card=0xf0041385 chip=0x000211ad rev=0x21 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Lite-On Communications Inc' device = 'NGMC169B 10/100 Ethernet (NetGear FA310TX)' class = network subclass = ethernet atapci0@pci0:11:0: class=0x010180 card=0x00000000 chip=0x06461095 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Silicon Image Inc (Was: CMD Technology Inc)' device = 'PCI-0646 EIDE Adapter (Single FIFO)' class = mass storage subclass = ATA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 7:54:12 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFA937B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 07:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from view.scoundrelz.net (OSH-202-11.northpiertower.com [66.146.202.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6819643EE1 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 07:54:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hemi@scoundrelz.net) Received: from view.scoundrelz.net (localhost.scoundrelz.net [127.0.0.1]) by view.scoundrelz.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h03FrqVO018769; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 09:53:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hemi@scoundrelz.net) Received: from localhost (hemi@localhost) by view.scoundrelz.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id h03Frq7F018766; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 09:53:52 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: view.scoundrelz.net: hemi owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 09:53:52 -0600 (CST) From: Josh Tolbert To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Terry Lambert , Subject: Re: Sound frustration. In-Reply-To: <20030103114318.E87589@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20030103095145.I18741-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Wilko, On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 01:26:13AM -0600, Josh Tolbert wrote: > > Hi Terry, > > > > On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > > Josh Tolbert wrote: > > > > Hi guys, > > > > I have a PC164LX, 533MHz 21164A and 1G RAM. I'm planning on using > > > > the machine for a workstation and sound would be nice. I've been fighting > > > > with this machine sound-wise for about three days now, so I decided to ask > > > > for help. > > If possible, can I have some digital pictures of this LX board, > for my reference collection at > > http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/Alpha-gallery/ > > ? > -- > | / o / /_ _ wilko@freebie.xs4all.nl > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte > Sure, I'll take some pictures of the board this evening after work. Thanks, Josh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 10:30:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9AA37B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:30:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7904043EC2 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:30:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from idnopheq@comcast.net) Received: from roshomon.idnopheq.net (pcp02694547pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net [68.84.183.131]) by mtaout05.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.07 (built Nov 25 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H8500232I2YKJ@mtaout05.icomcast.net> for alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 13:30:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 13:30:08 -0500 From: "Coffin, Dexter" Subject: NTFS mount on Alpha? To: alpha@freebsd.org Reply-To: idnopheq@comcast.net Message-id: <200301031330.08866.idnopheq@comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey, All! Is it possible to mount an NTFS drive from FreeBSD 4.7-Stable on Alpha? I tried adding "options NTFS" to my kernel build file and rebuilt my kernel. No luck. I also tried "kldload ntfs". In both cases, I "mount_ntfs /dev/ad2s1 /ntfs" by hand, causing a kernel panic. fatal kernel trap: trap entry = 0x4 (unaligned access fault) a0 = 0xfffffe000123fc61 a1 = 0x2d a2 = 0x1f pc = 0xfffffc00003fd6cc ra = 0xfffffc00003fdab8 curproc = 0xfffffe000bae7540 pid = 1151, comm = mount_ntfs panic: trap syncing disks... 3 Anyone know of a particular incantation to use, or does NTFS just not work on Alpha? Should I submit a bug report? Cheers! -- "Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing." - advice I should take more often http://idnopheq.perlmonk.org idnopheq@NOSPAM.perlmonk.org http://idnopheq.dns2go.com idnopheq@NOSPAM.comcast.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 10:40:37 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7321637B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:40:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE1643E4A for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:40:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h03IeXro008629 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:40:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id h03IeSE50221; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:40:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15893.55580.523216.783176@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:40:28 -0500 (EST) To: idnopheq@comcast.net Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NTFS mount on Alpha? In-Reply-To: <200301031330.08866.idnopheq@comcast.net> References: <200301031330.08866.idnopheq@comcast.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Coffin, Dexter writes: > Hey, All! > > Is it possible to mount an NTFS drive from FreeBSD 4.7-Stable on Alpha? > > I tried adding "options NTFS" to my kernel build file and rebuilt my kernel. > No luck. I also tried "kldload ntfs". In both cases, I "mount_ntfs > /dev/ad2s1 /ntfs" by hand, causing a kernel panic. > > > > fatal kernel trap: > > trap entry = 0x4 (unaligned access fault) > a0 = 0xfffffe000123fc61 > a1 = 0x2d > a2 = 0x1f > pc = 0xfffffc00003fd6cc > ra = 0xfffffc00003fdab8 > curproc = 0xfffffe000bae7540 > pid = 1151, comm = mount_ntfs > > panic: trap > > syncing disks... 3 > > > > Anyone know of a particular incantation to use, or does NTFS just not work on > Alpha? It apparently doesn't work on anything but x86, if the above is any indication. > Should I submit a bug report? If you do, submit a better bug report. Build a debug kernel with ntfs and DDB built in (config -g), install it (make install). Crash the machine with ntfs. When the machine panics, you'll be at the ddb prompt: get a traceback from ddb: ddb> trace Write this down (or cut-n-paste from the serial console), and include it in the bug report. After rebooting, run gdb -k kernel.debug and list the pc and the ra and include the line of code which causes the crash in the bug report: Eg, (kgdb) l * 0xfffffc00003fd6cc (kgdb) l * 0xfffffc00003fdab8 Even still, unless its something obvious, don't expect too much action. I don't know of anybody with ntfs interest AND an alpha. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 11:24:51 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D0437B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net (bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD02D43EDC for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:24:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0308.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.193.53] helo=mindspring.com) by bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18UXQz-0003BC-00; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 11:24:46 -0800 Message-ID: <3E15E32D.FF8D97C4@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 11:23:25 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Josh Tolbert , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound frustration. References: <20030102213810.P1485-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> <3E150F12.DEBB976E@mindspring.com> <20030103114122.D87589@freebie.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a44aab55b318801f10f048301e66951b9d2601a10902912494350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 08:18:26PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Josh Tolbert wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > I have a PC164LX, 533MHz 21164A and 1G RAM. I'm planning on using > > > the machine for a workstation and sound would be nice. I've been fighting > > > with this machine sound-wise for about three days now, so I decided to ask > > > for help. > > > > I'm pretty sure that this box has an embedded ESS1888 or CS4231 > > chip, doesn't it? Can't you use that instead of sticking in your > > own sound card? Back when I had a 164-based board it has the > > Crystal Semiconductor sound chip. > > I'm sure a PWS (Miata) has embedded sound, and some of the older > AS, like the Alphastation 200. But the LX? My PC164LX loaner was a prototype; it had the Crystal Semiconductor chip; it's where the keyboard controller and UARTs lived. I've got documentation for the raw motherboard in the other room, but I don't have a scanner, so I can't really email it anywhere. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 11:30:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E159637B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:30:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net (bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B76643ED8 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:30:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0308.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.193.53] helo=mindspring.com) by bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18UXWI-000470-00; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 11:30:14 -0800 Message-ID: <3E15E472.8DA9F6F@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 11:28:50 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Josh Tolbert , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound frustration. References: <3E150F12.DEBB976E@mindspring.com> <20030103012017.K6469-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> <20030103114318.E87589@freebie.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a4e4138850af75d3a89eb1f1e4476cd097a7ce0e8f8d31aa3f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte wrote: > If possible, can I have some digital pictures of this LX board, > for my reference collection at > > http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/Alpha-gallery/ > > ? The connector would be to the North-East of the DB-25, and run North/South, according to my memory. This board does not look like it has it, sorry. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 11:37: 9 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C1D37B405 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:37:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net (bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9E643EC5 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:37:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0308.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.193.53] helo=mindspring.com) by bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18UXct-0005Fn-00; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 11:37:04 -0800 Message-ID: <3E15E60A.DF3693CF@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 11:35:38 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Wilko Bulte , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound frustration. References: <3E150F12.DEBB976E@mindspring.com> <20030103012017.K6469-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> <20030103114318.E87589@freebie.xs4all.nl> <15893.38849.156467.179518@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a4e4138850af75d3a829a6b51d3c019fcd387f7b89c61deb1d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > isab0@pci0:8:0: class=0x000000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x04848086 rev=0x43 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82378ZB/IB,82379AB PCI to ISA Bridge, System I/O' > class = old > subclass = non-VGA display device What chip is implementing your keyboard controller? And do you have a patch that will make PCI sound cards work? Thanks, -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 11:45:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A83C37B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:45:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE09C43EDC for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:45:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h03JjBro011601 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:45:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id h03Jj6o50276; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:45:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15893.59458.156749.895113@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:45:06 -0500 (EST) To: Terry Lambert Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound frustration. In-Reply-To: <3E15E60A.DF3693CF@mindspring.com> References: <3E150F12.DEBB976E@mindspring.com> <20030103012017.K6469-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> <20030103114318.E87589@freebie.xs4all.nl> <15893.38849.156467.179518@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <3E15E60A.DF3693CF@mindspring.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert writes: > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > isab0@pci0:8:0: class=0x000000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x04848086 rev=0x43 hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > device = '82378ZB/IB,82379AB PCI to ISA Bridge, System I/O' > > class = old > > subclass = non-VGA display device > > What chip is implementing your keyboard controller? This one, more or less. Its hung off the ISA bridge. > And do you have a patch that will make PCI sound cards work? No. All alphas with built in sound cards have ISA cards. That's all I've ever tried to make work. Besides, the above machine is our corporate web server. Sound doesn't play a big role there. ;) Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 12:14:46 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A005437B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:14:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23EBE43F26 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:14:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0308.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.193.53] helo=mindspring.com) by puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18UYD2-0007Cj-00; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 12:14:25 -0800 Message-ID: <3E15EECA.4E2BFF2E@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 12:12:58 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound frustration. References: <3E150F12.DEBB976E@mindspring.com> <20030103012017.K6469-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> <20030103114318.E87589@freebie.xs4all.nl> <15893.38849.156467.179518@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <3E15E60A.DF3693CF@mindspring.com> <15893.59458.156749.895113@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a48534a7caa917d899766c0ba1b8d90fc4387f7b89c61deb1d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Terry Lambert writes: > > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > isab0@pci0:8:0: class=0x000000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x04848086 rev=0x43 hdr=0x00 > > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > > device = '82378ZB/IB,82379AB PCI to ISA Bridge, System I/O' > > > class = old > > > subclass = non-VGA display device > > > > What chip is implementing your keyboard controller? > > This one, more or less. Its hung off the ISA bridge. On the one hand, this is annoying, because it means that the board has no sound chip built into it as part of the multi-I/O chip, which shoots me in the foot. 8-(. On the other hand, it's an Intel bridge chip, which might give creedence to the idea that it's limited to 2 DMA channel negotiations, and barfs if you try to stick another PCI card in it that does DMA, which keeps my other foot safe. 8-). > > And do you have a patch that will make PCI sound cards work? > > No. All alphas with built in sound cards have ISA cards. That's all > I've ever tried to make work. Besides, the above machine is our > corporate web server. Sound doesn't play a big role there. ;) What about "Help! Help! I'm being Slash-dotted!". 8-) 8-). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 12:27:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0943C37B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:27:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C8643EA9 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:27:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h03KRAro013736 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:27:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id h03KR5550333; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:27:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15893.61977.617126.551476@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:27:05 -0500 (EST) To: Terry Lambert Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound frustration. In-Reply-To: <3E15EECA.4E2BFF2E@mindspring.com> References: <3E150F12.DEBB976E@mindspring.com> <20030103012017.K6469-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> <20030103114318.E87589@freebie.xs4all.nl> <15893.38849.156467.179518@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <3E15E60A.DF3693CF@mindspring.com> <15893.59458.156749.895113@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <3E15EECA.4E2BFF2E@mindspring.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert writes: > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Terry Lambert writes: > > > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > isab0@pci0:8:0: class=0x000000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x04848086 rev=0x43 hdr=0x00 > > > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > > > device = '82378ZB/IB,82379AB PCI to ISA Bridge, System I/O' > > > > class = old > > > > subclass = non-VGA display device > > > > > > What chip is implementing your keyboard controller? > > > > This one, more or less. Its hung off the ISA bridge. > > On the one hand, this is annoying, because it means that the board > has no sound chip built into it as part of the multi-I/O chip, > which shoots me in the foot. 8-(. On the other hand, it's an > Intel bridge chip, which might give creedence to the idea that > it's limited to 2 DMA channel negotiations, and barfs if you > try to stick another PCI card in it that does DMA, which keeps > my other foot safe. 8-). Huh? Its an alpha.. PCI dma is handled separately, by the core-logic chipset (21174 pyxis). There are no DMA channels for PCI devices. However, there are some cards which the SRM fails to setup properly. For example, some ATA cards get IO ports which are higher than they expect and barf. Perhaps this is what's happening to the happless user who started this thread. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 13:13:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7BA37B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:13:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from view.scoundrelz.net (OSH-202-11.northpiertower.com [66.146.202.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A17243EA9 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:13:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hemi@scoundrelz.net) Received: from view.scoundrelz.net (localhost.scoundrelz.net [127.0.0.1]) by view.scoundrelz.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h03LCmVO026091; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:12:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hemi@scoundrelz.net) Received: from localhost (hemi@localhost) by view.scoundrelz.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id h03LCd6j026088; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:12:39 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: view.scoundrelz.net: hemi owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:12:39 -0600 (CST) From: Josh Tolbert To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Terry Lambert , Subject: Re: Sound frustration. In-Reply-To: <15893.61977.617126.551476@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: <20030103150747.P25893-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Terry Lambert writes: > > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > Terry Lambert writes: > > > > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > > isab0@pci0:8:0: class=0x000000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x04848086 rev=0x43 hdr=0x00 > > > > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > > > > device = '82378ZB/IB,82379AB PCI to ISA Bridge, System I/O' > > > > > class = old > > > > > subclass = non-VGA display device > > > > > > > > What chip is implementing your keyboard controller? > > > > > > This one, more or less. Its hung off the ISA bridge. > > > > On the one hand, this is annoying, because it means that the board > > has no sound chip built into it as part of the multi-I/O chip, > > which shoots me in the foot. 8-(. On the other hand, it's an > > Intel bridge chip, which might give creedence to the idea that > > it's limited to 2 DMA channel negotiations, and barfs if you > > try to stick another PCI card in it that does DMA, which keeps > > my other foot safe. 8-). > > Huh? Its an alpha.. PCI dma is handled separately, by the core-logic > chipset (21174 pyxis). There are no DMA channels for PCI devices. > > However, there are some cards which the SRM fails to setup properly. > For example, some ATA cards get IO ports which are higher than > they expect and barf. Perhaps this is what's happening to the > happless user who started this thread. I think this may be the case with the PCI sound cards. Every single one of them I tried wasn't identified by the manufacturer in SRM, like every other card in the machine was. The PCI sound cards are just identified by two sets of numbers, which I guess correspond to vendor ID and part number. > Drew > Thanks, Josh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 13:16:47 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B5A37B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:16:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6932043ED1 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:16:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h03LGhro016715 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:16:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id h03LGcM50379; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:16:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15893.64950.790269.219939@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:16:38 -0500 (EST) To: Josh Tolbert Cc: Terry Lambert , Subject: Re: Sound frustration. In-Reply-To: <20030103150747.P25893-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> References: <15893.61977.617126.551476@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20030103150747.P25893-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Josh Tolbert writes: > > However, there are some cards which the SRM fails to setup properly. > > For example, some ATA cards get IO ports which are higher than > > they expect and barf. Perhaps this is what's happening to the > > happless user who started this thread. > > I think this may be the case with the PCI sound cards. Every > single one of them I tried wasn't identified by the manufacturer in SRM, > like every other card in the machine was. The PCI sound cards are just > identified by two sets of numbers, which I guess correspond to vendor ID > and part number. Yes, that's what the numbers mean. All that it means when the SRM doesn't ID the card by manufacturer is that it didn't know about card when the SRM was burned, not that it set it up "wrong" (I put "wrong" in quotes because as I remember it, the problem with the ATA cards is a bug in the ATA cards, not in SRM). For example, my company's card (myrinet nics) show up by PCI device and vendor id, but are setup properly. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 13:20:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CD537B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:20:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7A543ED1 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:20:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h03LKiUe098142; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 22:20:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h03LKiSl098141; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 22:20:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 22:20:44 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Josh Tolbert Cc: Andrew Gallatin , Terry Lambert , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound frustration. Message-ID: <20030103222044.A98120@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <15893.61977.617126.551476@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20030103150747.P25893-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20030103150747.P25893-100000@view.scoundrelz.net>; from hemi@scoundrelz.net on Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 03:12:39PM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 03:12:39PM -0600, Josh Tolbert wrote: > > Huh? Its an alpha.. PCI dma is handled separately, by the core-logic > > chipset (21174 pyxis). There are no DMA channels for PCI devices. > > > > However, there are some cards which the SRM fails to setup properly. > > For example, some ATA cards get IO ports which are higher than > > they expect and barf. Perhaps this is what's happening to the > > happless user who started this thread. > > I think this may be the case with the PCI sound cards. Every > single one of them I tried wasn't identified by the manufacturer in SRM, > like every other card in the machine was. The PCI sound cards are just > identified by two sets of numbers, which I guess correspond to vendor ID > and part number. PCI sound cards were never qualified by DEC/CPQ for use in Alphas. The SRM has a hardcoded list of things it knows about. That list is not overly long ;) -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 3 19:30:23 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5382637B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 19:30:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [193.197.184.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDD843F32 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 19:30:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mailnull@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with gbsmtp id 18Uf0u-00069W-00; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 04:30:20 +0100 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h042nqMn072575 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 03:49:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h042nqVA072574 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 03:49:52 +0100 (CET) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: Sound frustration. Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 02:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <15893.61977.617126.551476@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20030103150747.P25893-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> <20030103222044.A98120@freebie.xs4all.nl> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte wrote: > PCI sound cards were never qualified by DEC/CPQ for use in Alphas. The > SRM has a hardcoded list of things it knows about. That list is not overly > long ;) Well, this one works: Digital AlphaPC 164SX 533 MHz ... eap0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 "Ensoniq AudioPCI97" rev 0x08: eb164 irq 11 ac97: codec id 0x43525913 (Cirrus Logic CS4297A rev 3) ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, Crystal Semi 3D audio0 at eap0 ... -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jan 4 2:34:26 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DB437B401 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 02:34:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC5843EE6 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 02:34:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h04AYNUe007657; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:34:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h04AYN8m007656; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:34:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:34:22 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound frustration. Message-ID: <20030104113422.A7569@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <15893.61977.617126.551476@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20030103150747.P25893-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> <20030103222044.A98120@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from naddy@mips.inka.de on Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 02:49:51AM +0000 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 02:49:51AM +0000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > PCI sound cards were never qualified by DEC/CPQ for use in Alphas. The > > SRM has a hardcoded list of things it knows about. That list is not overly > > long ;) > > Well, this one works: You need some luck it seems ;) Like Drew already mentioned, that SRM does not know about it does not imply it won't work. Given that T64 or OVMS have little use for soundcards it should come as no surprise that they are not in SRM's list of PCI IDs. > Digital AlphaPC 164SX 533 MHz > ... > eap0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 "Ensoniq AudioPCI97" rev 0x08: eb164 irq 11 > ac97: codec id 0x43525913 (Cirrus Logic CS4297A rev 3) > ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, Crystal Semi 3D > audio0 at eap0 > ... > -- > Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jan 4 3:25:53 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A098C37B401; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 03:25:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from citusc.usc.edu (citusc.usc.edu [128.125.38.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB04E43EC2; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 03:25:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@citusc.usc.edu) Received: (from kris@localhost) by citusc.usc.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2) id h04BPp400909; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 03:25:51 -0800 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 03:25:51 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: kde@FreeBSD.org, alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: koffice broken on alpha Message-ID: <20030104032551.A899@citusc.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/alpha-5-latest/koffice-1.2,1.log --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+FsS+Wry0BWjoQKURAnJbAKDp4TZBzjpSI0aILEetFvpzCezeFQCgyrDr DWYllofOdBj6beq+yAvUHIY= =OHAF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jan 4 3:43:49 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154AE37B401 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 03:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from crucible.athame.co.uk (guru164.netsonic.fi [194.29.193.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4F943ED4 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 03:43:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@athame.co.uk) Received: from amavis by crucible.athame.co.uk with scanned-ok (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18UmiP-0005O1-00 for alpha@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 13:43:45 +0200 Received: from zappa.int.athame.co.uk ([192.168.1.3] helo=zappa.athame.co.uk) by crucible.athame.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18UmiI-0005Na-00; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 13:43:38 +0200 From: Andy Fawcett To: Kris Kennaway , kde@FreeBSD.org, alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [kde-freebsd] koffice broken on alpha Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:43:57 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030104032551.A899@citusc.usc.edu> In-Reply-To: <20030104032551.A899@citusc.usc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200301041343.57895.andy@athame.co.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 at crucible.athame.co.uk Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday 04 January 2003 13:25, Kris Kennaway wrote: > http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/alpha-5-latest/koffice-1.2,1.log Looks like a limitation of the tools on alpha, from the two lines: /usr/bin/ld: .libs/libkwordpart_la.all_cc.o: .got subsegment \ exceeds 64K (size 66552) /usr/bin/ld: failed to set dynamic section sizes: No such file \ or directory Kris, we've seen this one before somewhere, and we resolved it by disabling KDE's "--enable-final" for Alpha builds. AlanE will probably be able to tell you where it was better than I can guess ;) Regards, Andy -- Andy Fawcett | andy@athame.co.uk | tap@kde.org "In an open world without walls and fences, | tap@lspace.org we wouldn't need Windows and Gates." -- anon | tap@fruitsalad.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jan 4 12:42:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBA037B401; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:42:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net (bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B80B43EB2; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:42:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0130.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.130] helo=mindspring.com) by bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18Uv7C-0003b9-00; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 12:41:55 -0800 Message-ID: <3E1746BF.464E01EA@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 12:40:31 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Fawcett Cc: Kris Kennaway , kde@FreeBSD.org, alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [kde-freebsd] koffice broken on alpha References: <20030104032551.A899@citusc.usc.edu> <200301041343.57895.andy@athame.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a4421d85e29b993125bb334ad5a17d33cc548b785378294e88350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andy Fawcett wrote: > On Saturday 04 January 2003 13:25, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/alpha-5-latest/koffice-1.2,1.log > > Looks like a limitation of the tools on alpha, from the two lines: > > /usr/bin/ld: .libs/libkwordpart_la.all_cc.o: .got subsegment \ > exceeds 64K (size 66552) > /usr/bin/ld: failed to set dynamic section sizes: No such file \ > or directory > > Kris, we've seen this one before somewhere, and we resolved it by > disabling KDE's "--enable-final" for Alpha builds. AlanE will probably > be able to tell you where it was better than I can guess ;) Yes; it was my patch for kdenetwork3: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=38462+0+archive/2002/freebsd-alpha/20021013.freebsd-alpha Someone made it conditional on being the Alpha compile. This is actually a stupid thing to do, since it's going to be a problem on all 64 bit platforms, which means Alpha, SPARC64, and IA64. I pointed this out before, but was ignored last time, by showing that the problem comes from the conversion from 32 bit to 63 bit pointers, which bumps up the size of every symbol from 4 bytes to 8 bytes. The same patch will work for the koffice port. If you can, try to fix the SPARC64 and IA64 and Alpha all at the same time, instead of just fixing the Alpha, like the person who hacked my patch before it was committed against kdenetwork3. You probably want to add the same thing to any kde code where the .got exceeds 48K, as a prophylactic measure. Thanks, -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message