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The information about PAS you can find at the site: [2]www.tiger-tele.com/pas/english/index.html Best regards, the team of the PAS and the manager Serguei Fedotov. Sorry, if our letter disturbed you. References 1. mailto:tigertel@stl.ru 2. file://localhost/tmp/www.tiger-tele.com/pas/english/index.html --letters0x0x0x0x0x0x0x0x0x0x0x0x-- --x0x0x0x0x0x0x0x0x0x0x0x0x-- From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 3 01:46:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6FD37B415 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 01:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smartrafficenter.org (pacer.smartrafficenter.org [207.14.56.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FE2E43F3F for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 01:46:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpieckiel@smartrafficenter.org) Received: (qmail 87088 invoked by uid 1500); 3 May 2003 08:46:24 -0000 Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 04:46:24 -0400 From: "Kevin A. Pieckiel" To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030503084624.GA87039@pacer.dmz.smartrafficenter.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: SCSI and other PCI cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 08:46:29 -0000 --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Correct me if I'm wrong, but PCI is PCI is PCI. If I go to my local computer store or favorite online reseller and buy the latest and greatest 64-bit PCI Adaptec SCSI card (and probably some nice hard drives to go with it), I can install that in my Alpha (Alpha Server 5305) and it will work, right? I mean, Naturally, FreeBSD would have to have drivers for it (but it does, so that's a non-issue), but electrically, the bus is the same in an Alpha as it is in a PC or some other architecture, right? Afterall, they're both PCI..... Kevin "Books aren't written to be believed in, but to be questioned." -- Umberto Eco --- This message was signed by GnuPG. E-Mail kpieckiel-pgp@smartrafficenter.org to receive my public key. You may also get my key from pgpkeys.mit.edu; my ID is 0xF1604E92 and will expire on 01 January 2004. --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+s4Hec3iJbvFgTpIRAoTsAKCDqBagvkioqIETEL85tjnSqCz8TwCfR/tU wi+V9V8i6LHQz/VkI/xW9Kk= =uDiG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT-- From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 3 01:52:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB9037B401 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 01:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smartrafficenter.org (pacer.smartrafficenter.org [207.14.56.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46E6343F93 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 01:52:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpieckiel@smartrafficenter.org) Received: (qmail 87211 invoked by uid 1500); 3 May 2003 08:51:59 -0000 Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 04:51:59 -0400 From: "Kevin A. Pieckiel" To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030503085159.GA87161@pacer.dmz.smartrafficenter.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: ISO image X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 08:52:01 -0000 --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline One more question--What happened to the disc 1 ISO for the alpha port of version 4.8? I can't find it on any mirrors... Kevin "You know they've reintroduced the death penalty for insurance company directors?" "Really?" said Arthur, "No, I didn't. For what offense?" Trillian frowned. "What do you mean, offense?" "I see." -- Douglass Adams, _Mostly Harmless_ --- This message was signed by GnuPG. E-Mail kpieckiel-pgp@smartrafficenter.org to receive my public key. You may also get my key from pgpkeys.mit.edu; my ID is 0xF1604E92 and will expire on 01 January 2004. --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+s4Mvc3iJbvFgTpIRAtfSAJ4obp76MyIwBSlEE2cZQAuymZRgVgCfVceY +MBsJSpOAoWkyvlwqbchsWc= =Vruz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd-- From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 3 02:29:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EA637B401 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 02:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0CD43F75 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 02:28:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h439SwO9068662; Sat, 3 May 2003 11:28:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h439SwlE068661; Sat, 3 May 2003 11:28:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 11:28:58 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Kevin A. Pieckiel" Message-ID: <20030503092858.GA68642@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030503084624.GA87039@pacer.dmz.smartrafficenter.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030503084624.GA87039@pacer.dmz.smartrafficenter.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI and other PCI cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 09:29:01 -0000 On Sat, May 03, 2003 at 04:46:24AM -0400, Kevin A. Pieckiel wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong, but PCI is PCI is PCI. If I go to my local > computer store or favorite online reseller and buy the latest and greatest > 64-bit PCI Adaptec SCSI card (and probably some nice hard drives to go > with it), I can install that in my Alpha (Alpha Server 5305) and it will > work, right? I mean, Naturally, FreeBSD would have to have drivers > for it (but it does, so that's a non-issue), but electrically, the bus > is the same in an Alpha as it is in a PC or some other architecture, right? > Afterall, they're both PCI..... Yes. But booting from it for example you can most likely forget. And given that Alpha machines often contain PCI bridge chips to get to (generally the # of slots >> PCs ) you might be restricted to what slots your card works in. So YMMV -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 3 02:32:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99FB37B401 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 02:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smartrafficenter.org (pacer.smartrafficenter.org [207.14.56.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0689243FB1 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 02:32:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpieckiel@smartrafficenter.org) Received: (qmail 88065 invoked by uid 1500); 3 May 2003 09:32:30 -0000 Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 05:32:30 -0400 From: "Kevin A. Pieckiel" To: Wilko Bulte Message-ID: <20030503093230.GA87968@pacer.dmz.smartrafficenter.org> References: <20030503084624.GA87039@pacer.dmz.smartrafficenter.org> <20030503092858.GA68642@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030503092858.GA68642@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI and other PCI cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 09:32:32 -0000 --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 03, 2003 at 11:28:58AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Yes. But booting from it for example you can most likely forget.=20 > And given that Alpha machines often contain PCI bridge chips to get to=20 > (generally the # of slots >> PCs ) you might be restricted to what=20 > slots your card works in. So YMMV Why the trouble booting? Kevin "A book should serve as an axe to the ice inside us." -- Franz Kafka --- This message was signed by GnuPG. E-Mail kpieckiel-pgp@smartrafficenter.org to receive my public key. You may also get my key from pgpkeys.mit.edu; my ID is 0xF1604E92 and will expire on 01 January 2004. --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+s4ytc3iJbvFgTpIRAiXNAJ9gSo9nVuf29OLqGOGSV47b5YEiSwCfZAdF sy+VsirrojEv7/s9msW+pBw= =qE1+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI-- From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 3 03:11:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB11F37B401 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 03:11:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2D943F75 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 03:11:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h43ABdO9068814; Sat, 3 May 2003 12:11:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h43ABdnB068813; Sat, 3 May 2003 12:11:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 12:11:39 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Kevin A. Pieckiel" Message-ID: <20030503101139.GA68794@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030503084624.GA87039@pacer.dmz.smartrafficenter.org> <20030503092858.GA68642@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030503093230.GA87968@pacer.dmz.smartrafficenter.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030503093230.GA87968@pacer.dmz.smartrafficenter.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI and other PCI cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 10:11:42 -0000 On Sat, May 03, 2003 at 05:32:30AM -0400, Kevin A. Pieckiel wrote: > On Sat, May 03, 2003 at 11:28:58AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > Yes. But booting from it for example you can most likely forget. > > And given that Alpha machines often contain PCI bridge chips to get to > > (generally the # of slots >> PCs ) you might be restricted to what > > slots your card works in. So YMMV > > Why the trouble booting? If the SRM console does not recognise the card it won't be able to boot from it. Alpha's do not use the BIOS that some/most cards bring. The list of SRM supported and hence bootable adapters is rather short. And varies per Alpha model. Have you read HARDWARE.TXT? If not, do so, a lot of this is covered there. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 3 03:15:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9816437B401 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 03:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7594C43FB1 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 03:15:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h43AFtO9068865; Sat, 3 May 2003 12:15:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h43AFtCM068860; Sat, 3 May 2003 12:15:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 12:15:55 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Kevin A. Pieckiel" Message-ID: <20030503101555.GB68794@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030503085159.GA87161@pacer.dmz.smartrafficenter.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030503085159.GA87161@pacer.dmz.smartrafficenter.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISO image X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 10:15:57 -0000 On Sat, May 03, 2003 at 04:51:59AM -0400, Kevin A. Pieckiel wrote: > One more question--What happened to the disc 1 ISO for the alpha port of > version 4.8? I can't find it on any mirrors... Easy: I did not create one. I did not have the time to go do the manual tweaking to download / include packages etc. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 3 06:40:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466FA37B401 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 06:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigw.org (polonius.bigw.org [66.93.16.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A96543F93 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 06:40:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@bigw.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bigw.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h43DeVL14161; Sat, 3 May 2003 08:40:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 08:40:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Dan Williams To: Wilko Bulte In-Reply-To: <20030503101139.GA68794@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: "Kevin A. Pieckiel" cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI and other PCI cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 13:40:49 -0000 Hi, I currently have a Adaptec 2940UW in my AS1000A 5/400. It works just fine in FreeBSD. But, because the card actually came from a Mac, and has the Mac BIOS, of course it isn't seen by the SRM console and won't boot. So I'm limited to the internal Qlogic adapter for booting. So yes, whatever you stick in that has FreeBSD drivers will most likely work, but machine-dependent things like booting won't work. I also have the same problem with my IBM 7043-140 (43-P): I can stuff any graphics adapter I want in there, since its PCI, but if I don't use one that has OpenFirmware BIOS on it, I don't get anything onscreen at all until Linux starts the card up. Unfortunately, that means accessing the machine's BIOS over a serial console, simply becuase the card doesn't have quite the right code in its ROM. Dan On Sat, 3 May 2003, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Sat, May 03, 2003 at 05:32:30AM -0400, Kevin A. Pieckiel wrote: > > On Sat, May 03, 2003 at 11:28:58AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > Yes. But booting from it for example you can most likely forget. > > > And given that Alpha machines often contain PCI bridge chips to get to > > > (generally the # of slots >> PCs ) you might be restricted to what > > > slots your card works in. So YMMV > > > > Why the trouble booting? > > If the SRM console does not recognise the card it won't be able to boot > from it. Alpha's do not use the BIOS that some/most cards bring. > The list of SRM supported and hence bootable adapters is rather short. > And varies per Alpha model. > > Have you read HARDWARE.TXT? If not, do so, a lot of this is covered there. > > -- > | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-alpha > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-alpha-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 3 08:17:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0971A37B401 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 08:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC48A43F93 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 08:16:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 1B3C3530E; Sat, 3 May 2003 17:16:56 +0200 (CEST) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Dan Williams From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 17:16:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Dan Williams's message of "Sat, 3 May 2003 08:40:31 -0500 (CDT)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090015 (Oort Gnus v0.15) Emacs/21.3 References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: "Kevin A. Pieckiel" cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI and other PCI cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 15:17:00 -0000 Dan Williams writes: > I currently have a Adaptec 2940UW in my AS1000A 5/400. It works just fine > in FreeBSD. But, because the card actually came from a Mac, and has the > Mac BIOS, of course it isn't seen by the SRM console and won't boot. The BIOS is irrelevant. Like Wilko said, the Alpha doesn't use it. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 3 08:27:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664E237B401 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 08:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C39F43F75 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 08:27:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h43FRAO9069850; Sat, 3 May 2003 17:27:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h43FRAnZ069849; Sat, 3 May 2003 17:27:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 17:27:10 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Dan Williams Message-ID: <20030503152710.GA69780@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030503101139.GA68794@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: "Kevin A. Pieckiel" cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI and other PCI cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 15:27:15 -0000 On Sat, May 03, 2003 at 08:40:31AM -0500, Dan Williams wrote: > Hi, > > I currently have a Adaptec 2940UW in my AS1000A 5/400. It works just fine > in FreeBSD. But, because the card actually came from a Mac, and has the > Mac BIOS, of course it isn't seen by the SRM console and won't boot. So AS1000A SRM most likely*) will not be able to boot from any Adaptec, Mac firmware or not. *) most likely as in: I have not tried it, but I'm really quite sure. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 3 13:10:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA2837B401; Sat, 3 May 2003 13:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-67-115-75-172.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [67.115.75.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1F443F3F; Sat, 3 May 2003 13:10:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D9E66B9B; Sat, 3 May 2003 13:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 66B2A1557; Sat, 3 May 2003 13:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 13:10:30 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: ports@FreeBSD.org, alpha@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030503201030.GE15004@rot13.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="phCU5ROyZO6kBE05" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: libvm68k-1.0.6_1 broken on 5.0 alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 20:10:31 -0000 --phCU5ROyZO6kBE05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/alpha-5-latest/libvm68k-1.0.6_1.log Can someone please investigate? Kris --phCU5ROyZO6kBE05 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+tCIyWry0BWjoQKURAgnEAKCJ5CODor9q1lrCdexBsF2QHokKswCbB7TD qtmOHgOkIVak26pEgKahKH8= =rmqj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --phCU5ROyZO6kBE05-- From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 3 20:28:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97F637B401; Sat, 3 May 2003 20:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-67-115-75-172.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [67.115.75.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B1443FCB; Sat, 3 May 2003 20:28:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD86466B9B; Sat, 3 May 2003 20:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C0D181567; Sat, 3 May 2003 20:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 20:28:26 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: ports@FreeBSD.org, alpha@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030504032826.GG18706@rot13.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hTiIB9CRvBOLTyqY" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: libtecla broken on alpha 5.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 03:28:28 -0000 --hTiIB9CRvBOLTyqY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/alpha-5-latest/libtecla-1.4.1_1.log Can someone please investigate? Kris --hTiIB9CRvBOLTyqY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+tIjaWry0BWjoQKURAj4iAJ4kB0diStP2BpBeOphblKo0yhUCiwCfeLFB 7JTOdk6ueREwRUhsUiKhXPM= =Akl1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hTiIB9CRvBOLTyqY--