From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 01:17:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A6137B401; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 01:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105D443FB1; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 01:17:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6R8HGmW006423; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:17:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6R8HF2L006422; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:17:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:17:15 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <20030727081715.GB6392@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030725220247.GA1653@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030726074052.GA93951@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726081120.GA7470@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030726163016.GF95189@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726183007.GA575@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030726184509.GA4440@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726192133.GB575@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030726192133.GB575@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS hangs appears dc(4) newbusification related X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 08:17:18 -0000 On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 12:21:33PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 08:45:09PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > I'm off to the pub, I'll check sometime tomorrow what has happend. > > > > I invariably get the hang within 1 minute. Sofar ds10 completed 2 buildworlds, no problems. I can access the nfs mounted /usr/obj from ds10 without hangs or whatever. This is using default nfs mount options. -- | / o / /_ _ wkb@tcja.nl - stichting TCJA, Arnhem |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 01:34:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B8737B401 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 01:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C633943F93 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 01:34:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6R8YmhR038763 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:34:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6R8YkAx065243 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:34:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6R8YkNS045319; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:34:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6R8YjsP045318; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:34:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:34:45 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <20030727083444.GC42805@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20030725220247.GA1653@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030726074052.GA93951@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726081120.GA7470@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030726163016.GF95189@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726183007.GA575@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030726183007.GA575@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.1-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS hangs appears dc(4) newbusification related X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 08:34:59 -0000 On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 11:30:07AM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 06:30:16PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 01:11:20AM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 09:40:52AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > > > > > Is the Alpha the server or the client? I have run my ds10 with onboard dc(4) > > > > as an nfs client (that is how it gets to my cvs repo etc) and that did not > > > > fail for me(?). > > > > > > Client. Other machines were still able to talk with the server while > > > the alpha choked. > > > > Anything special I should try to see if my box has the same problem? > > Since the problem appears to be specific to NFS, try NFS mount > options (like tcp) and/or enabling statd/lockd. Those are the > things I'm going to tweak with as well. Besides that, I'm going > to look at the actual change to dc(4). TCP mounts don't work on alpha anyway because of alignemt bugs. If someone with NFS and mbuf knowledge want to fix this should contact me - I know the exact cause for this, but don't know how to fix. The problem can be reproduced on i386 as well by adding some alignemt checks. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de ticso@bwct.de info@bwct.de From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 02:15:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D7D37B401 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 02:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9DD43F75 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 02:15:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6R9FIrm000490; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:15:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6R9FIvf000489; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:15:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:15:18 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <20030727091517.GA468@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030725220247.GA1653@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030726074052.GA93951@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726081120.GA7470@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030726163016.GF95189@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726183007.GA575@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030726184509.GA4440@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726192133.GB575@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030727081715.GB6392@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030727081715.GB6392@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS hangs appears dc(4) newbusification related X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:15:20 -0000 On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 10:17:15AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 12:21:33PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 08:45:09PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > > > I'm off to the pub, I'll check sometime tomorrow what has happend. > > > > > > > I invariably get the hang within 1 minute. > > Sofar ds10 completed 2 buildworlds, no problems. I can access the nfs > mounted /usr/obj from ds10 without hangs or whatever. > > This is using default nfs mount options. /me wonders what Alpha model marcel has? -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 10:21:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41DD37B401; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB24643F93; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:21:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6RHLvmM008724; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:21:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6RHLvfx008723; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:21:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:21:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307271721.h6RHLvfx008723@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: current@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:22:00 -0000 TB --- 2003-07-27 16:00:01 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2003-07-27 16:00:01 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-27 16:01:57 - building world TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/i386/usr/include >>> stage 4: building libraries >>> stage 4: make dependencies >>> stage 4: building everything.. 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TB --- 2003-07-27 17:21:57 - /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2003-07-27 17:21:57 - ERROR: failed to build lint kernel TB --- 2003-07-27 17:21:57 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 12:46:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8AF37B401 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1CC43F3F for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:46:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (athlon.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.3]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6RJkHwO050388; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:46:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6RJkGCe000719; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:46:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6RJkGWx000718; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:46:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:46:16 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Wilko Bulte Message-ID: <20030727194616.GA608@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <20030725220247.GA1653@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030726074052.GA93951@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726081120.GA7470@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030726163016.GF95189@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726183007.GA575@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030726184509.GA4440@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726192133.GB575@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030727081715.GB6392@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030727091517.GA468@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030727091517.GA468@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS hangs appears dc(4) newbusification related X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:46:21 -0000 On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 11:15:18AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 10:17:15AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 12:21:33PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 08:45:09PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm off to the pub, I'll check sometime tomorrow what has happend. > > > > > > > > > > I invariably get the hang within 1 minute. > > > > Sofar ds10 completed 2 buildworlds, no problems. I can access the nfs > > mounted /usr/obj from ds10 without hangs or whatever. > > > > This is using default nfs mount options. > > /me wonders what Alpha model marcel has? PWS 433. I think the mystery is solved: After some triaging it became clear that the problem was not the newbusification of dc(4). I got the same lockups with sources before that change, but after the mbuf changes sibly@ made. The comment by ticso@ that tcp doesn't work anyway was not true before, but is now. That misalignment existed before is possible. It never caused any problems for me though. Removing tcp from the mount options in fstab(5) solved the problem with -current sources, but could be be used prior to that. So: o Using TCP based NFS mounts is indeed broken and should at least be mentioned somewhere, because the breakage is only visible on alpha. Ideally it should be fixed. o rpc.statd(8) still fails for msync(), which probably needs to addressed as well, because it's specific to alpha too. o If misalignment is the root cause of why TCP based NFS mounts don't work, then why doesn't the kernel panic? All misalignments in the kernel should be fatal, not cause "random" failures. -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 13:04:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB3737B401 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F174743F85 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:04:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6RK40hR046883 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:04:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6RK3wAx068265 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:03:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6RK3wNS047667; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:03:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6RK3vEl047666; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:03:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:03:57 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <20030727200356.GL42805@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20030725220247.GA1653@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030726074052.GA93951@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726081120.GA7470@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030726163016.GF95189@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726183007.GA575@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030726184509.GA4440@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726192133.GB575@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030727081715.GB6392@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030727091517.GA468@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030727194616.GA608@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030727194616.GA608@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.1-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS hangs appears dc(4) newbusification related X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 20:04:13 -0000 On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 12:46:16PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > I think the mystery is solved: > > After some triaging it became clear that the problem was not the > newbusification of dc(4). I got the same lockups with sources > before that change, but after the mbuf changes sibly@ made. The > comment by ticso@ that tcp doesn't work anyway was not true > before, but is now. That misalignment existed before is possible. It is true since day one and therefor TCP NFS never worked reliable on alpha. If and how often you trigger the bug depends on your usage. If you see anything else then an alignment panic then it's something new. > It never caused any problems for me though. Removing tcp from the > mount options in fstab(5) solved the problem with -current sources, > but could be be used prior to that. > > So: > o Using TCP based NFS mounts is indeed broken and should at least > be mentioned somewhere, because the breakage is only visible on > alpha. Ideally it should be fixed. The alignemt bug is a problem on other strong alignment platforms as well. I can't speak about the new problem. > o rpc.statd(8) still fails for msync(), which probably needs to > addressed as well, because it's specific to alpha too. > o If misalignment is the root cause of why TCP based NFS mounts > don't work, then why doesn't the kernel panic? All misalignments > in the kernel should be fatal, not cause "random" failures. They do panic for shure. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de ticso@bwct.de info@bwct.de From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 13:08:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6C737B401 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357E343F85 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:08:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (athlon.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.3]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6RK8GwO050583; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:08:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6RK8GCe000782; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:08:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6RK8GuN000781; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:08:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:08:16 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: ticso@cicely.de Message-ID: <20030727200816.GB608@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <20030726074052.GA93951@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726081120.GA7470@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030726163016.GF95189@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726183007.GA575@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030726184509.GA4440@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726192133.GB575@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030727081715.GB6392@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030727091517.GA468@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030727194616.GA608@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030727200356.GL42805@cicely12.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030727200356.GL42805@cicely12.cicely.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS hangs appears dc(4) newbusification related X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 20:08:25 -0000 On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 10:03:57PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > > It is true since day one and therefor TCP NFS never worked reliable > on alpha. > If and how often you trigger the bug depends on your usage. > If you see anything else then an alignment panic then it's something > new. It must be something new then. Which only means that a broken state has further regressed... > > o Using TCP based NFS mounts is indeed broken and should at least > > be mentioned somewhere, because the breakage is only visible on > > alpha. Ideally it should be fixed. > > The alignemt bug is a problem on other strong alignment platforms as > well. I don't see it here on ia64 nor sparc64. -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 13:22:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3686A37B401 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DE243FA3 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:22:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6RKLuhR047029 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:21:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6RKLsAx068332 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:21:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6RKLsNS047731; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:21:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6RKLrO3047730; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:21:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:21:53 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <20030727202152.GN42805@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20030726081120.GA7470@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030726163016.GF95189@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726183007.GA575@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030726184509.GA4440@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030726192133.GB575@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030727081715.GB6392@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030727091517.GA468@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030727194616.GA608@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030727200356.GL42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030727200816.GB608@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030727200816.GB608@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.1-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: ticso@cicely.de Subject: Re: NFS hangs appears dc(4) newbusification related X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 20:22:02 -0000 On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 01:08:16PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 10:03:57PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > > > > It is true since day one and therefor TCP NFS never worked reliable > > on alpha. > > If and how often you trigger the bug depends on your usage. > > If you see anything else then an alignment panic then it's something > > new. > > It must be something new then. Which only means that a broken state > has further regressed... > > > > o Using TCP based NFS mounts is indeed broken and should at least > > > be mentioned somewhere, because the breakage is only visible on > > > alpha. Ideally it should be fixed. > > > > The alignemt bug is a problem on other strong alignment platforms as > > well. > > I don't see it here on ia64 nor sparc64. It happens rarely under very high load. There is a realignment code that works fine for a single missalignment in the input mbuf cluster, but fails if there is a second one. That also means that we need a condition with multiple transactions in the input queue to trigger this bug. Maybe it only triggers in server code, but the problem exists in the client code as well. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de ticso@bwct.de info@bwct.de From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 22:22:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2285F37B401; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2232343FD7; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:22:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6S5MQmM001004; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:22:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6S5MQig001003; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:22:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:22:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307280522.h6S5MQig001003@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: current@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:22:28 -0000 TB --- 2003-07-28 04:00:03 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2003-07-28 04:00:03 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-28 04:02:25 - building world TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/i386/usr/include >>> stage 4: building libraries >>> stage 4: make dependencies >>> stage 4: building everything.. 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-I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/ahb/ahb.c /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/ahb/ahb.c: In function `ahbecbptov': /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/ahb/ahb.c:143: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/ahb/ahb.c:143: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/LINT. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. TB --- 2003-07-28 05:22:25 - /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2003-07-28 05:22:25 - ERROR: failed to build lint kernel TB --- 2003-07-28 05:22:25 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 28 03:47:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB60337B401; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 03:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-135.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7DB43F85; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 03:47:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7783F66D6A; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 03:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 07C6850D; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 03:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 03:47:25 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: current@FreeBSD.org, alpha@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030728104725.GA52281@rot13.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: panic: sleeping thread owns a mutex X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:47:28 -0000 --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline One of the alpha package machines just died with the following: panic: sleeping thread owns a mutex panic() at panic+0x160 propagate_priority() at propagate_priority+0x148 _mtx_lock_sleep() at _mtx_lock_sleep+0x264 _mtx_lock_flags() at _mtx_lock_flags+0x84 _vm_map_lock() at _vm_map_lock+0x40 vm_map_remove() at vm_map_remove+0x34 kmem_free() at kmem_free+0x34 pipe_free_kmem() at pipe_free_kmem+0xbc pipeclose() at pipeclose+0x188 pipe_close() at pipe_close+0x40 fdrop_locked() at fdrop_locked+0x180 fdrop() at fdrop+0x50 closef() at closef+0x260 fdfree() at fdfree+0x3c4 exit1() at exit1+0x578 sys_exit() at sys_exit+0x58 syscall() at syscall+0x338 XentSys() at XentSys+0x64 --- syscall (1, FreeBSD ELF64, sys_exit) --- --- user mode --- db> (gdb -k is still broken on alpha, so I can't do better). The machine is running a kernel from June 20. Kris --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/JP89Wry0BWjoQKURAvNQAJ4ibJlGVmWjeAivo+o/V1dZ0atlpQCfSDs7 lR0TT3OmRUl7os6GY0bZxS8= =TJcR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+-- From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 28 09:54:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB6737B401 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5698B43F93 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:54:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jaknlak@sbcglobal.net) Received: from adsl-65-64-26-186.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net (HELO sbcglobal.net) (jaknlak@sbcglobal.net@65.64.26.186 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 16:53:57 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:53:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: Jeremy Kemp To: alpha@FreeBSD.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <101FCF65-C11C-11D7-89ED-0003930506C8@sbcglobal.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Subject: 4.8 or 5.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:54:17 -0000 [/lurk] I just inherited a DEC AlphaServer 1000/266 to play with, and I'm curious if anyone has a recommendation of whether I should install FreeBSD 4.8 or 5.1. Background includes some Linux/Unix, and I currently run Mac OS X Server, which is based on FreeBSD (or is it Open? I can't remember). Thanks for any tips I might get. [lurk] From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 28 10:18:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9D037B401 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3011D43FA3 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:18:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6SHIhig014816; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:18:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6SHIgaI014815; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:18:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:18:42 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jeremy Kemp Message-ID: <20030728171842.GB14416@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <101FCF65-C11C-11D7-89ED-0003930506C8@sbcglobal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <101FCF65-C11C-11D7-89ED-0003930506C8@sbcglobal.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.8 or 5.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:18:45 -0000 On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 11:53:50AM -0500, Jeremy Kemp wrote: > [/lurk] > I just inherited a DEC AlphaServer 1000/266 to play with, and I'm > curious if anyone has a recommendation of whether I should install > FreeBSD 4.8 or 5.1. Background includes some Linux/Unix, and I Both should work without incidents. For now I recommend 4.8. > currently run Mac OS X Server, which is based on FreeBSD (or is it > Open? I can't remember). FreeBSD. -- | / o / /_ _ wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 28 10:23:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A23537B401; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B07243FD7; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:23:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6SHNYmM087893; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:23:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6SHNXHQ087892; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:23:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:23:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307281723.h6SHNXHQ087892@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: current@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:23:36 -0000 TB --- 2003-07-28 16:00:03 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2003-07-28 16:00:03 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-28 16:02:04 - building world TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/i386/usr/include >>> stage 4: building libraries >>> stage 4: make dependencies >>> stage 4: building everything.. TB --- 2003-07-28 17:08:30 - building generic kernel TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC >>> Kernel build for GENERIC started on Mon Jul 28 17:08:30 GMT 2003 >>> Kernel build for GENERIC completed on Mon Jul 28 17:20:30 GMT 2003 TB --- 2003-07-28 17:20:30 - generating LINT kernel config TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/alpha/conf TB --- /usr/bin/make -B LINT TB --- 2003-07-28 17:20:30 - building LINT kernel TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT >>> Kernel build for LINT started on Mon Jul 28 17:20:30 GMT 2003 [...] cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/advansys/adwlib.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev 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-I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/ahb/ahb.c /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/ahb/ahb.c: In function `ahbecbptov': /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/ahb/ahb.c:143: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/ahb/ahb.c:143: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/LINT. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. TB --- 2003-07-28 17:23:33 - /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2003-07-28 17:23:33 - ERROR: failed to build lint kernel TB --- 2003-07-28 17:23:33 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 28 11:01:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE3537B401 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E732943F75 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:01:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6SI1cUp082108 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:01:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6SI1cKM082101 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200307281801.h6SI1cKM082101@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:01:39 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2003/05/05] alpha/51824 alpha Booting 5.0-RELEASE install cd with IDE H 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/09/10] alpha/30486 alpha AlphaServer DS10 floppy access is broken o [2001/09/10] alpha/30487 alpha Floppy access on AlphaServer DS20 solid l f [2002/03/01] alpha/35455 alpha Unable to compile ISA NIC devices into ke o [2002/04/23] alpha/37382 alpha de0 (tulip) DEC-21140A card stays in OACT o [2002/04/23] alpha/37385 alpha xl0 network card (509B) fails on heavy tr o [2002/10/04] alpha/43653 alpha rl(8) driver causes unaligned access trap o [2003/02/05] alpha/47952 alpha DEFPA causes machine check with V5.0-rele 7 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/01/26] alpha/24663 alpha Console output gets scribbled into /var/l o [2001/02/22] alpha/25284 alpha PC164 won't reboot with graphics console o [2001/06/07] alpha/27933 alpha Time jitter under load on FreeBSD 4.3 alp o [2001/07/29] alpha/29299 alpha FreeBSD 4.3 Alpha + Tekram SCSI adapter p o [2001/10/01] alpha/30970 alpha Ensoniq 1371 (Creative chipset) does not o [2002/01/24] alpha/34232 alpha rpc.statd throws alignment errors o [2002/03/26] alpha/36327 alpha trap within cvt() while attempting to pri o [2002/05/13] alpha/38031 alpha osf1.ko not loaded during boot-time of li p [2002/11/12] alpha/45240 alpha pstat -f column headings misaligned on Al o [2003/02/25] alpha/48676 alpha Changing the baud rate of serial consoles o [2003/04/12] alpha/50868 alpha fd0 floppy device is not mapped into /dev o [2003/06/02] alpha/52882 alpha fpsetprec/fp_prec_t unsupported on alpha? 12 problems total. From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 28 22:28:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129CD37B401; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DE843F75; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:28:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6T5Sso6035348; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 01:28:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6T5SsJQ035347; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 01:28:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 01:28:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307290528.h6T5SsJQ035347@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: current@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:28:56 -0000 TB --- 2003-07-29 04:00:04 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2003-07-29 04:00:04 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-29 04:08:19 - building world TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/i386/usr/include >>> stage 4: building libraries >>> stage 4: make dependencies >>> stage 4: building everything.. TB --- 2003-07-29 05:14:03 - building generic kernel TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC >>> Kernel build for GENERIC started on Tue Jul 29 05:14:03 GMT 2003 >>> Kernel build for GENERIC completed on Tue Jul 29 05:25:52 GMT 2003 TB --- 2003-07-29 05:25:52 - generating LINT kernel config TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/alpha/conf TB --- /usr/bin/make -B LINT TB --- 2003-07-29 05:25:52 - building LINT kernel TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT >>> Kernel build for LINT started on Tue Jul 29 05:25:52 GMT 2003 [...] cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/advansys/adwlib.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/advansys/adwmcode.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/aha/aha.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/aha/aha_isa.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/ahb/ahb.c /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/ahb/ahb.c: In function `ahbecbptov': /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/ahb/ahb.c:143: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/ahb/ahb.c:143: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/LINT. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. TB --- 2003-07-29 05:28:54 - /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2003-07-29 05:28:54 - ERROR: failed to build lint kernel TB --- 2003-07-29 05:28:54 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 00:25:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF6937B401 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1DE43F93 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:25:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from user-38lc0dr.dialup.mindspring.com ([209.86.1.187] helo=mindspring.com) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19hOrD-0002gi-00; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:25:16 -0700 Message-ID: <3F26211F.23C22A2E@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:24:15 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wilko Bulte References: <101FCF65-C11C-11D7-89ED-0003930506C8@sbcglobal.net> <20030728171842.GB14416@freebie.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a420d454776054c67ac978bcaba125021b667c3043c0873f7e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.8 or 5.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:25:26 -0000 Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 11:53:50AM -0500, Jeremy Kemp wrote: > > [/lurk] > > I just inherited a DEC AlphaServer 1000/266 to play with, and I'm > > curious if anyone has a recommendation of whether I should install > > FreeBSD 4.8 or 5.1. Background includes some Linux/Unix, and I > > Both should work without incidents. For now I recommend 4.8. > > > currently run Mac OS X Server, which is based on FreeBSD (or is it > > Open? I can't remember). > > FreeBSD. OSF Mach 3.0, NeXTStep, BSD4.4-Lite2, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD. Much of the userland code is FreeBSD-derived. It's fun to look in the header files in /usr/include/sys, if you have the developer CD installed. -- Terry From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 02:54:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A911437B401; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 02:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C37C43F85; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 02:54:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6T9sa0U009748 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:54:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h6T9saXm009743; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:54:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:54:36 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zaRBsRFn0XYhEU69" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030722081738.GB7811@sunbay.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: Marcel Moolenaar cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org cc: David O'Brien cc: Wilko Bulte cc: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:54:55 -0000 --zaRBsRFn0XYhEU69 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="kvUQC+jR9YzypDnK" Content-Disposition: inline --kvUQC+jR9YzypDnK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:17:38AM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 03:58:46PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > [...] > > This is a loosing fight. While there is still some value in having > > floppies for x86, is there really any value in them for Alpha? My > > understanding is that CD-ROMs have been standard on all Alphas for > > the past 5-10 years. Netbooting is an easy alternative for those > > without CDs or bandwidth. We do not do floppies for sparc64 and ia64, > > and I would hope/expect that we don't do them for amd64. I think it's > > time to cut them out of Alpha. > >=20 > I plan on working on removing floppy support for AMD64 now. > Not that we support installing from floppies on AMD64 now, no, > this is rather a tidying up of release/Makefile and other > infrastructure. >=20 > After that, it will be trivial to axe the floppy support for > Alpha too. >=20 I've got that feeling that the consensus was to drop the floppy support for Alpha, as supporting it becomes a nightmare. If so, could any of you please review the attached patch? (It makes Alpha similar to AMD64 regarding floppies, i.e., no floppies.) Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software Ltd, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --kvUQC+jR9YzypDnK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=p Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Index: Makefile =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.801 diff -u -r1.801 Makefile --- Makefile 26 Jul 2003 06:47:40 -0000 1.801 +++ Makefile 29 Jul 2003 09:44:32 -0000 @@ -195,20 +195,10 @@ BIGBOOTLABEL=3D minimum2 .endif .elif ${TARGET_ARCH} =3D=3D "alpha" -DRIVERSIZE=3D 1440 -BOOTSIZE=3D 1440 -FIXITSIZE=3D 2880 MFSSIZE=3D 4320 -BIGBOOTSIZE=3D 2880 -DRIVERINODE=3D 40000 -BOOTINODE=3D 80000 -FIXITINODE=3D 40000 MFSINODE=3D 8000 -DRIVERLABEL=3D fd1440 -BOOTLABEL=3D fd1440 -FIXITLABEL=3D minimum2 MFSLABEL=3D auto -BIGBOOTLABEL=3D minimum2 +NO_FLOPPIES=3D .elif ${TARGET_ARCH} =3D=3D "sparc64" DISKLABEL=3D sunlabel BIGBOOTSIZE=3D 4096 @@ -711,9 +701,6 @@ .endif @tar --exclude CVS -cf - -C ${.CURDIR}/../usr.sbin/sysinstall help | \ tar xf - -C ${RD}/mfsfd/stand -.if ${TARGET_ARCH} =3D=3D "alpha" && !defined(NO_FLOPPIES) - rm -rf ${RD}/mfsfd/stand/help/* -.endif @mkdir -p ${RD}/mfsroot .if defined(SMALLBOOTSIZE) .if exists(${.CURDIR}/${TARGET}/drivers-small.conf) Index: alpha/dokern.sh =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: alpha/dokern.sh diff -N alpha/dokern.sh --- alpha/dokern.sh 28 Jul 2003 18:22:07 -0000 1.73 +++ /dev/null 1 Jan 1970 00:00:00 -0000 @@ -1,66 +0,0 @@ -#!/bin/sh -# -# $FreeBSD: src/release/alpha/dokern.sh,v 1.73 2003/07/28 18:22:07 ru Exp $ -# - -# XXX sort by order in GENERIC, not alphabetical - -sed \ - -e 's/ident.*GENERIC/ident BOOTMFS/g' \ - -e '/DEBUG/d' \ - -e '/DEC_KN8AE/d' \ - -e '/SOFTUPDATES/d' \ - -e '/UFS_ACL/d' \ - -e '/UFS_DIRHASH/d' \ - -e '/NFSSERVER/d' \ - -e '/NFS_ROOT/d' \ - -e '/MSDOSFS/d' \ - -e '/PROCFS/d' \ - -e '/PSEUDOFS/d' \ - -e '/KTRACE/d' \ - -e '/SYSV/d' \ - -e '/_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING/d' \ - -e '/DDB/d' \ - -e '/INVARIANTS/d' \ - -e '/INVARIANT_SUPPORT/d' \ - -e '/SMP/d' \ - -e '/ atapifd /d' \ - -e '/ atapist /d' \ - -e '/ mpt /d' \ - -e '/ ch /d' \ - -e '/ pass /d' \ - -e '/ sa /d' \ - -e '/ ses /d' \ - -e '/ splash /d' \ - -e '/ ppc$/d' \ - -e '/ ppbus /d' \ - -e '/ lpt /d' \ - -e '/ ppi /d' \ - -e '/ random /d' \ - -e '/ sl /d' \ - -e '/ ppp /d' \ - -e '/ pty /d' \ - -e '/ faith /d' \ - -e '/ uhci /d' \ - -e '/ ohci /d' \ - -e '/ usb /d' \ - -e '/ ugen /d' \ - -e '/ uhid /d' \ - -e '/ ukbd /d' \ - -e '/ ulpt /d' \ - -e '/ umass /d' \ - -e '/ ums /d' \ - -e '/ aue /d' \ - -e '/ cue /d' \ - -e '/ kue /d' \ - -e '/ firewire /d' \ - -e '/ sbp /d' \ - -e '/ fwe /d' \ - -# XXX: blank line above intentional so lines may be added below the last -# entry with ease. - -echo "options MUTEX_NOINLINE" - -echo "options SCSI_NO_OP_STRINGS"=20 -echo "options SCSI_NO_SENSE_STRINGS" Index: alpha/drivers.conf =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: alpha/drivers.conf diff -N alpha/drivers.conf --- alpha/drivers.conf 1 Jun 2003 20:01:05 -0000 1.20 +++ /dev/null 1 Jan 1970 00:00:00 -0000 @@ -1,68 +0,0 @@ -# Driver config file for boot floppies -# =20 -# Copyright (c) 2000 "HOSOKAWA, Tatsumi" -# All rights reserved. -# -# Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without -# modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions -# are met: -# 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright -# notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. -# 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright -# notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the -# documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. -# -# THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND -# ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE -# IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPO= SE -# ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE -# FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTI= AL -# DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS -# OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) -# HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRI= CT -# LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY -# OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF -# SUCH DAMAGE. -# -# $FreeBSD: src/release/alpha/drivers.conf,v 1.20 2003/06/01 20:01:05 ru E= xp $ - -# -# drv: driver name in kernel config file -# filename: filename of kernel module (without .ko) -# floppy: 2 (mfsroot.flp), 3 (drivers.flp) -# type: 'options' (for a kernel option) or anything else for a driver -# description: short description of the driver -# -# If you add functionality here, please update drivers.conf(5). -# - -#drv filename floppy type description -dc if_dc 2 network "DEC DEC/Intel 21143 and workalikes" -de if_de 2 network "DEC DEC/Intel 21040, 21041, 21140" -fxp if_fxp 2 network "Intel PRO/100B (8255{7,8})" -miibus miibus 2 network "MII bus support" -pcn if_pcn 2 network "AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100" -rl if_rl 2 network "RealTek 8129/8139" -txp if_txp 2 network "3Com 3XP Typhoon/Sidewinder (3CR990)" -vr if_vr 2 network "VIA Rhine, Rhine II" -vx if_vx 2 network "3Com 3c590 and 3c595 EtherLink III" -xl if_xl 2 network "3Com 3c90x (Boomerang, Cyclone)" - -ahc ahc 3 disk "Adaptec 2940" -ahc ahc_eisa 3 disk "Adaptec 2940 EISA" -ahc ahc_pci 3 disk "Adaptec 2940 PCI" -amr amr 3 disk "AMI MegaRAID" -ispfw ispfw 3 disk "Qlogic SCSI firmware modules" -mlx mlx 3 disk "Mylex DAC-family RAID" - -axe if_axe 3 network "ASIX AX88172 USB 2.0 Ethernet" -gif if_gif 3 network "IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling" -sf if_sf 3 network "Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')" -sis if_sis 3 network "SiS 900 / 7016" -ste if_ste 3 network "Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)" -tl if_tl 3 network "Texas Instruments ThunderLAN" -tun if_tun 3 network "Packet tunnel" -wb if_wb 3 network "Winbond W89C840F" - -CD9660 cd9660 3 options "ISO 9660 Filesystem" -NFSCLIENT nfsclient 3 options "Network Filesystem Client" Index: alpha/fixit_crunch.conf =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: alpha/fixit_crunch.conf diff -N alpha/fixit_crunch.conf --- alpha/fixit_crunch.conf 17 May 2003 19:16:28 -0000 1.35 +++ /dev/null 1 Jan 1970 00:00:00 -0000 @@ -1,23 +0,0 @@ -# $FreeBSD: src/release/alpha/fixit_crunch.conf,v 1.35 2003/05/17 19:16:28= ru Exp $ - -buildopts -DRELEASE_CRUNCH -Dlint - -srcdirs /usr/src/bin -progs cat chflags chmod cp dd df echo expr kill -progs ln ls mkdir mv rm rmdir - -srcdirs /usr/src/sbin -progs bsdlabel clri dmesg mknod -progs mount mount_cd9660 -progs reboot restore swapon umount -ln bsdlabel disklabel -ln restore rrestore - -srcdirs /usr/src/usr.bin -progs ftp telnet ee - -srcdirs /usr/src/usr.sbin -progs chown chroot -ln chown chgrp - -libs -ledit -lgeom -lkvm -lm -lncurses -lutil --kvUQC+jR9YzypDnK-- --zaRBsRFn0XYhEU69 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/JkRbUkv4P6juNwoRArb2AJ9ynQK2OutcaOTj3FR7nEM04/rE3QCfXs6l NSsYHcJTVGIUiLFKvepUd5U= =Cggp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zaRBsRFn0XYhEU69-- From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 03:26:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A58637B401 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 03:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta03.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B08143FA3 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 03:26:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbyrnes@ozemail.com.au) Received: from pootah.ozemail.com.au ([63.60.237.128]) by mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au with ESMTP <20030729102643.UNX11656.mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au@pootah.ozemail.com.au> for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:26:43 +1000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20030726170106.02dd4680@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: pop.ozemail.com.au/110/rbyrnes@127.0.0.1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:49:38 +1000 To: alpha@freebsd.org From: Rob B Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Any nge(4) success stories X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:26:46 -0000 Hi all, What successes have people had with nge(4) cards on Alpha? I am currently running 5.1-RELEASE on a Cabriolet (PC-64) and even though the Netgear GA622T is a 64-bit PCI card, it is working quite happily in a 32-bit slot. I also have a PWS-500au (Miata) running 4.8-STABLE (from July 12), but so far all attempts to get the card working properly are failing. In a 64-bit slot, the card is recognised by the kernel during boot, and appears to think it's bringing the link up OK, but cannot ping across the link, and no link lights are on the switch. The switch is an unmanaged Netgear GS516T From 5.1-RELEASE- dmesg: nge0: port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x8206c000-0x8206cfff irq 0 at device 6.0 on pci0 nge0: interrupting at APECS irq 0 nge0: Ethernet address: 00:40:f4:29:51:ef miibus0: on nge0 nsgphy0: on miibus0 nsgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto aylee% ifconfig nge0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=13 inet 192.168.100.31 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.100.255 ether 00:40:f4:29:51:ef media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) status: active From 4.8-STABLE- dmesg: nge0: port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x8206c000-0x8206cfff irq 0 at device 6.0 on pci0 nge0: interrupting at APECS irq 0 nge0: Ethernet address: 00:40:f4:29:51:ef miibus0: on nge0 nsgphy0: on miibus0 nsgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto erwin% ifconfig nge0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=3 inet 192.168.100.11 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.100.255 ether 00:40:f4:29:51:ef media: Ethernet autoselect (none) status: active Cheers, rob -- Proletarian revolutions are notably ineffective when the ruling class is composed of gods. This is random quote 909 of 1254. Distance from the centre of the brewing universe [15200.8 km (8207.8 mi), 262.8 deg](Apparent) Rennerian Public Key fingerprint = 6219 33BD A37B 368D 29F5 19FB 945D C4D7 1F66 D9C5 From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 05:11:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5ED637B401 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8AE43F3F for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:11:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aziegenfus@mindspring.com) Received: from dialup-67.74.229.42.dial1.baltimore1.level3.net ([67.74.229.42] helo=opus.arz.com) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19hTJk-0002hZ-00 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:11:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:10:34 -0400 From: Allen Ziegenfus To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030729081034.257a9b92.aziegenfus@mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.0 (GTK+ 1.2.9; alphaev56-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Chroot network install X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:11:03 -0000 Hello, Is it possible to do a chroot install for Freebsd, instead of using boot floppies/cdrom? I have Red Hat 7.1 on my Alpha, and I'd like to upgrade to something else. For debian or gentoo linux, for example, you can download a base system, install it to a partition, chroot to it and then go through a sequence of steps to install the rest, without having to shutdown your existing OS. I couldn't find anything on this in the install manual... Also can I use aboot to boot FreeBSD? Thanks, Allen -- From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 05:24:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9FE37B401 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510C343FA3 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:24:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6TCOmnq007132 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:24:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id h6TCOhj73252; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:24:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16166.26507.378358.621129@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:24:43 -0400 (EDT) To: Allen Ziegenfus In-Reply-To: <20030729081034.257a9b92.aziegenfus@mindspring.com> References: <20030729081034.257a9b92.aziegenfus@mindspring.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chroot network install X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:24:52 -0000 Allen Ziegenfus writes: > Hello, > > Is it possible to do a chroot install for Freebsd, > instead of using boot floppies/cdrom? I have Red Hat > 7.1 on my Alpha, and I'd like to upgrade to something > else. For debian or gentoo linux, for example, you can download > a base system, install it to a partition, chroot to it and then go > through a sequence of steps to install the rest, without having to > shutdown your existing OS. I couldn't find anything on this in the > install manual... Maybe if you were running FreeBSD already, but there is no way a linux kernel will recognize the syscalls made by the FreeBSD installation binary. > Also can I use aboot to boot FreeBSD? > No. If you want to install FreeBSD on alpha, you need to give it a disk by itself. Drew From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 05:48:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64BA037B404 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8181943F85 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:48:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aziegenfus@mindspring.com) Received: from dialup-67.74.225.34.dial1.baltimore1.level3.net ([67.74.225.34] helo=opus.arz.com) by smtp6.mindspring.com with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19hTuB-0000Zx-00 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:48:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:48:33 -0400 From: Allen Ziegenfus To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030729084833.5ea7266e.aziegenfus@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <16166.26507.378358.621129@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <20030729081034.257a9b92.aziegenfus@mindspring.com> <16166.26507.378358.621129@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.0 (GTK+ 1.2.9; alphaev56-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Chroot network install X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:48:42 -0000 Ah good point. Thank you! Allen On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Allen Ziegenfus writes: > > Hello, > > > > Is it possible to do a chroot install for Freebsd, > > instead of using boot floppies/cdrom? I have Red Hat > > 7.1 on my Alpha, and I'd like to upgrade to something > > else. For debian or gentoo linux, for example, you can download > > a base system, install it to a partition, chroot to it and then go > > through a sequence of steps to install the rest, without having to > > shutdown your existing OS. I couldn't find anything on this in the > > install manual... > > Maybe if you were running FreeBSD already, but there is no way a linux > kernel will recognize the syscalls made by the FreeBSD installation > binary. > > > Also can I use aboot to boot FreeBSD? > > > > No. > > If you want to install FreeBSD on alpha, you need to give it a disk by > itself. > > Drew > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-alpha > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-alpha-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 10:18:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37F437B404; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05C443FE0; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:18:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6THIdje015518; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:18:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6THIdjf015517; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:18:39 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20030729171839.GA15443@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Ruslan Ermilov , Scott Long , Marcel Moolenaar , alpha@FreeBSD.org, Wilko Bulte References: <20030722081738.GB7811@sunbay.com> <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org cc: Marcel Moolenaar cc: Scott Long cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: alpha@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:18:44 -0000 [ Reply-to: set back to list ] On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:54:36PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > I've got that feeling that the consensus was to drop the floppy > support for Alpha, as supporting it becomes a nightmare. If so, > could any of you please review the attached patch? (It makes > Alpha similar to AMD64 regarding floppies, i.e., no floppies.) ... > .elif ${TARGET_ARCH} == "alpha" ... > +NO_FLOPPIES= ... > Index: alpha/dokern.sh > =================================================================== > RCS file: alpha/dokern.sh > diff -N alpha/dokern.sh > --- alpha/dokern.sh 28 Jul 2003 18:22:07 -0000 1.73 > +++ /dev/null 1 Jan 1970 00:00:00 -0000 > @@ -1,66 +0,0 @@ > -#!/bin/sh > -# > -# $FreeBSD: src/release/alpha/dokern.sh,v 1.73 2003/07/28 18:22:07 ru Exp $ ..snip.. Its not that we want NO_FLOPPIES, we want a single MFSROOT floppy that is like 10MB large. This is something you can dd(1) onto a disk and install from. We still need dokern.sh to change the ident, and other minor things. But there should be no seperate driver floppy, etc.. From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 10:23:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2291037B401; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA4E43FA3; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:23:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6THNlo6031300; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:23:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6THNlfg031299; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:23:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:23:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307291723.h6THNlfg031299@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: current@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:23:49 -0000 TB --- 2003-07-29 16:00:04 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2003-07-29 16:00:04 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-29 16:03:25 - building world TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/i386/usr/include >>> stage 4: building libraries >>> stage 4: make dependencies >>> stage 4: building everything.. TB --- 2003-07-29 17:08:53 - building generic kernel TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC >>> Kernel build for GENERIC started on Tue Jul 29 17:08:53 GMT 2003 >>> Kernel build for GENERIC completed on Tue Jul 29 17:20:40 GMT 2003 TB --- 2003-07-29 17:20:40 - generating LINT kernel config TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/alpha/conf TB --- /usr/bin/make -B LINT TB --- 2003-07-29 17:20:41 - building LINT kernel TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT >>> Kernel build for LINT started on Tue Jul 29 17:20:41 GMT 2003 [...] cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/advansys/adwlib.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev 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-I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/aha/aha.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/aha/aha_isa.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/ahb/ahb.c /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/ahb/ahb.c: In function `ahbecbptov': /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/ahb/ahb.c:143: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/ahb/ahb.c:143: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/LINT. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. TB --- 2003-07-29 17:23:47 - /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2003-07-29 17:23:47 - ERROR: failed to build lint kernel TB --- 2003-07-29 17:23:47 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 10:38:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F23837B401; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6818A43F85; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:38:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6THcmCE005125; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:38:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6THcmMg005124; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:38:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:38:48 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20030729173848.GE4940@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030722081738.GB7811@sunbay.com> <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: Marcel Moolenaar cc: Wilko Bulte cc: Scott Long cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG cc: David O'Brien cc: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:38:52 -0000 On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:54:36PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:17:38AM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 03:58:46PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > > [...] > > > This is a loosing fight. While there is still some value in having > > > floppies for x86, is there really any value in them for Alpha? My > > > understanding is that CD-ROMs have been standard on all Alphas for > > > the past 5-10 years. Netbooting is an easy alternative for those > > > without CDs or bandwidth. We do not do floppies for sparc64 and ia64, > > > and I would hope/expect that we don't do them for amd64. I think it's > > > time to cut them out of Alpha. > > > > > I plan on working on removing floppy support for AMD64 now. > > Not that we support installing from floppies on AMD64 now, no, > > this is rather a tidying up of release/Makefile and other > > infrastructure. > > > > After that, it will be trivial to axe the floppy support for > > Alpha too. > > > I've got that feeling that the consensus was to drop the floppy > support for Alpha, as supporting it becomes a nightmare. If so, Yes, that consensus seems to be there. Finally.. :) The question is if the way forward is a minimini.iso so a really minimal ISO image (<< in size that miniinst.iso) or some other mechanism like NetBSD or ancient SunOS 3.x used. Which, IIRC, was an image one dropped in to the swap area of a disk and booted from. I'm getting comments that miniinst.iso is too big. Which I buy. I also get comments that only ISOs aka mandatory CDboot is not acceptable. Which I personally don't buy :) Other than that I think the patch does what you intend it to do. Wilko -- | / o / /_ _ wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 10:39:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3735837B404; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3C343F75; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:39:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6THdD0U060453 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:39:13 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h6THdCr4060447; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:39:12 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:39:12 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Scott Long , Marcel Moolenaar , alpha@FreeBSD.org, Wilko Bulte Message-ID: <20030729173912.GA58264@sunbay.com> References: <20030722081738.GB7811@sunbay.com> <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> <20030729171839.GA15443@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030729171839.GA15443@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:39:25 -0000 --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 10:18:39AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > [ Reply-to: set back to list ] > =20 [ Mail-Followup-To: was still set to David O'Brien etc= =2E, so I had to remove your address manually. ] > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:54:36PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > I've got that feeling that the consensus was to drop the floppy > > support for Alpha, as supporting it becomes a nightmare. If so, > > could any of you please review the attached patch? (It makes > > Alpha similar to AMD64 regarding floppies, i.e., no floppies.) > ... > > .elif ${TARGET_ARCH} =3D=3D "alpha" > ... > > +NO_FLOPPIES=3D > ... > > Index: alpha/dokern.sh > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > RCS file: alpha/dokern.sh > > diff -N alpha/dokern.sh > > --- alpha/dokern.sh 28 Jul 2003 18:22:07 -0000 1.73 > > +++ /dev/null 1 Jan 1970 00:00:00 -0000 > > @@ -1,66 +0,0 @@ > > -#!/bin/sh > > -# > > -# $FreeBSD: src/release/alpha/dokern.sh,v 1.73 2003/07/28 18:22:07 ru = Exp $ > ..snip.. >=20 >=20 > Its not that we want NO_FLOPPIES, we want a single MFSROOT floppy that is > like 10MB large. >=20 MFS root FLOPPY we don't want. MFS root FILE SYSTEM we need, and it is still generated by release.9 and used in the CD-ROM installation. Its size is another subject. > This is something you can dd(1) onto a disk and install > from. >=20 Not quite. It's a r/w root file system (MFS), without a kernel and distributions. > We still need dokern.sh to change the ident, and other minor > things. >=20 No we don't. For the CD-ROM installation (with the help of /boot/cdboot), the GENERIC kernel is used. I think some people working in this area (including you) were confused about this for some time. If you don't trust me, ask JHB, or just boot off the 5.[01]-CD/DVD and watch the ident string. > But there should be no seperate driver floppy, etc.. >=20 That's what my patch does. Not defining the corresponding *SIZE, *INODE, and *LABEL constants does the trick. The NO_FLOPPIES knob is not strictly necessary -- if you look over the conditionals in the release.10 target, you'll notice that with these changes, the release.10 will be a no-op even if we don't enforce the NO_FLOPPIES for amd64 and alpha. The purpose of enforcing NO_FLOPPIES is to avoid unnecessary IFs in the release.9, ftp.1, and cdrom.1 targets. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software Ltd, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/JrFAUkv4P6juNwoRAghHAJ924wmQDlKGQMTb8/Wnty0nejv/qQCeJ5of GgYipGqcc+MBhiSqC6swAZs= =aA/U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu-- From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 10:44:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E1537B404; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3420643F93; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:44:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6THisLW001341; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:44:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6THirKm001340; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:44:53 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Wilko Bulte Message-ID: <20030729174453.GA1201@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Wilko Bulte , Ruslan Ermilov , Scott Long , Wilko Bulte , Marcel Moolenaar , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20030722081738.GB7811@sunbay.com> <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> <20030729173848.GE4940@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030729173848.GE4940@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: Scott Long cc: Marcel Moolenaar cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Wilko Bulte cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:45:00 -0000 [ Reply-to: set back to list ] On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 07:38:48PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:54:36PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > I've got that feeling that the consensus was to drop the floppy > > support for Alpha, as supporting it becomes a nightmare. If so, > > Yes, that consensus seems to be there. Finally.. :) > > The question is if the way forward is a minimini.iso so a really > minimal ISO image (<< in size that miniinst.iso) or some other mechanism > like NetBSD or ancient SunOS 3.x used. Which, IIRC, was an image one dropped > in to the swap area of a disk and booted from. Why do we have to choose one? We should offer multiple ways (as we do today). The problem is not offering a small downloadable image to install an Alpha from -- but that 1.44MB is a ridiculous size constraint for that image. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 10:48:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB1237B401; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B3D43FA3; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:48:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6THm1CE005354; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:48:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6THm14u005353; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:48:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:48:01 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" , Ruslan Ermilov , Scott Long , Wilko Bulte , Marcel Moolenaar , alpha@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030729174801.GA5308@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030722081738.GB7811@sunbay.com> <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> <20030729173848.GE4940@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729174453.GA1201@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030729174453.GA1201@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:48:04 -0000 On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 10:44:53AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > [ Reply-to: set back to list ] > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 07:38:48PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:54:36PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > I've got that feeling that the consensus was to drop the floppy > > > support for Alpha, as supporting it becomes a nightmare. If so, > > > > Yes, that consensus seems to be there. Finally.. :) > > > > The question is if the way forward is a minimini.iso so a really > > minimal ISO image (<< in size that miniinst.iso) or some other mechanism > > like NetBSD or ancient SunOS 3.x used. Which, IIRC, was an image one dropped > > in to the swap area of a disk and booted from. > > Why do we have to choose one? We should offer multiple ways (as we do > today). The problem is not offering a small downloadable image to > install an Alpha from -- but that 1.44MB is a ridiculous size constraint > for that image. OK, one could have a minimini.iso, a miniinst,iso and a fullblown ISO boot which includes packages etc, so disc1 from a 4 disk set.. Plus a 'dd-able' image (for lack of a better word). Would that be your choice? I agree 1.44M is a laugh. W/ -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 12:19:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FAB37B401; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2859443F75; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:19:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6TJJI0U070217 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:19:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h6TJJHIE070212; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:19:17 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:19:17 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Wilko Bulte Message-ID: <20030729191917.GA66399@sunbay.com> References: <200307211915.h6LJFPJY054212@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030721214042.GA563@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6216.3020006@freebsd.org> <20030721220419.GA909@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6633.5070009@freebsd.org> <20030722070239.GA2687@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030722070239.GA2687@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: re@FreeBSD.org cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org cc: Scott Long Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:19:51 -0000 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 09:02:39AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 04:16:19PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: [...] > > Is there an alternative for those in remote areas that can neither > > download the miniiso nor buy the cd set? Every time that we talk about > > downloading iso's, the issue comes up of those in eastern-bloc and > > asian countries that have little bandwidth. Can Alpha do a 'boot-only' > > cd image that is <5MB? >=20 > Maybe. But you would need a lot of other stuff to make it useful as > an installed system so why would the size of the boot'kit' be so importan= t? > I mean, you need the rest of the bits downloaded anyway to get a useful > installation. >=20 This is not the point IMO. The point is to have the miniboot.iso that could be used to replace a floppy, something less than 5MB, with only kernel and MFS root on it (resembling the contents of the "big" boot.flp floppy). Everything else would have to be downloaded from the net (e.g., FTP), but that would not cost you 236MB like it's currently for the miniinst.iso for 5.1/Alpha -- the "base" distribution on FTP is only 47MB. If there's some interest, I could add the support for generating miniboot.iso to release/Makefile. This would be extremely useful for other platforms too, including i386. Just let me know if there's a strong interest in this. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software Ltd, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/Jsi1Ukv4P6juNwoRAoX9AJ4qlGH+9YjTyGTwO1ZmaBVDqDbBuwCfVN+o KuvhWCSiuKMBWJLxnF8OkUQ= =wi69 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 12:23:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48D437B401; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF71F43F93; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:23:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6TJNh0U070560 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:23:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h6TJNh2l070555; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:23:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:23:43 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Wilko Bulte Message-ID: <20030729192343.GB66399@sunbay.com> References: <20030722081738.GB7811@sunbay.com> <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> <20030729173848.GE4940@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="l76fUT7nc3MelDdI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030729173848.GE4940@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: Marcel Moolenaar cc: Wilko Bulte cc: Scott Long cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG cc: David O'Brien cc: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:23:53 -0000 --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 07:38:48PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:54:36PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: [...] > > I've got that feeling that the consensus was to drop the floppy > > support for Alpha, as supporting it becomes a nightmare. If so, >=20 > Yes, that consensus seems to be there. Finally.. :) >=20 > The question is if the way forward is a minimini.iso so a really > minimal ISO image (<< in size that miniinst.iso) or some other mechanism > like NetBSD or ancient SunOS 3.x used. Which, IIRC, was an image one drop= ped > in to the swap area of a disk and booted from.=20 >=20 A similar technique could be used on sparc64, as was explained by Jake. That's the whole reason why boot.flp is still created on sparc64. > I'm getting comments that miniinst.iso is too big. Which I buy. >=20 Sure. > I also get comments that only ISOs aka mandatory CDboot is not > acceptable. >=20 Sure. We need to provide the loss of functionality. Please see my other reply to an earlier message in this same thread, which has more appropriate context for this. > Other than that I think the patch does what you intend it to do. >=20 Thanks, it sure does. :-) But does that also mean that you'd feel comfortable if I committed it now? Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software Ltd, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/Jsm/Ukv4P6juNwoRApIuAJ9KCpKcpaB0yF6aULgekpmukcFoOACdEZUV 1qmG1BaWbmqywlYAcgG98b8= =Mj0T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI-- From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 12:34:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D253137B401; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic-mail.adaptec.com [208.236.45.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297B143FAF; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:34:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11]) by magic.adaptec.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6TJYlo13228; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:34:47 -0700 Received: from freebsd.org (hollin.btc.adaptec.com [10.100.253.56]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8p2+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20884; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F26CBC1.7030704@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:32:17 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030414 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruslan Ermilov References: <200307211915.h6LJFPJY054212@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030721214042.GA563@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6216.3020006@freebsd.org> <20030721220419.GA909@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6633.5070009@freebsd.org> <20030722070239.GA2687@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729191917.GA66399@sunbay.com> In-Reply-To: <20030729191917.GA66399@sunbay.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: re@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:34:49 -0000 Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 09:02:39AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > >>On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 04:16:19PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > > [...] > >>>Is there an alternative for those in remote areas that can neither >>>download the miniiso nor buy the cd set? Every time that we talk about >>>downloading iso's, the issue comes up of those in eastern-bloc and >>>asian countries that have little bandwidth. Can Alpha do a 'boot-only' >>>cd image that is <5MB? >> >>Maybe. But you would need a lot of other stuff to make it useful as >>an installed system so why would the size of the boot'kit' be so important? >>I mean, you need the rest of the bits downloaded anyway to get a useful >>installation. >> > > This is not the point IMO. The point is to have the miniboot.iso > that could be used to replace a floppy, something less than 5MB, > with only kernel and MFS root on it (resembling the contents of > the "big" boot.flp floppy). Everything else would have to be > downloaded from the net (e.g., FTP), but that would not cost you > 236MB like it's currently for the miniinst.iso for 5.1/Alpha -- > the "base" distribution on FTP is only 47MB. > > If there's some interest, I could add the support for generating > miniboot.iso to release/Makefile. This would be extremely > useful for other platforms too, including i386. Just let me > know if there's a strong interest in this. > > > Cheers, This idea has intrigued me for a while. Feel free to prototype something! Scott From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 12:37:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9934D37B401; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1393F43F3F; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:37:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6TJbCCE006712; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:37:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6TJbCIB006711; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:37:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:37:12 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20030729193712.GF6508@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200307211915.h6LJFPJY054212@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030721214042.GA563@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6216.3020006@freebsd.org> <20030721220419.GA909@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6633.5070009@freebsd.org> <20030722070239.GA2687@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729191917.GA66399@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030729191917.GA66399@sunbay.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: re@FreeBSD.org cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org cc: Scott Long Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:37:15 -0000 On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 10:19:17PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 09:02:39AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 04:16:19PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > [...] > > > Is there an alternative for those in remote areas that can neither > > > download the miniiso nor buy the cd set? Every time that we talk about > > > downloading iso's, the issue comes up of those in eastern-bloc and > > > asian countries that have little bandwidth. Can Alpha do a 'boot-only' > > > cd image that is <5MB? > > > > Maybe. But you would need a lot of other stuff to make it useful as > > an installed system so why would the size of the boot'kit' be so important? > > I mean, you need the rest of the bits downloaded anyway to get a useful > > installation. > > > This is not the point IMO. The point is to have the miniboot.iso > that could be used to replace a floppy, something less than 5MB, 5 MB is quite small for Alpha I think. > with only kernel and MFS root on it (resembling the contents of > the "big" boot.flp floppy). Everything else would have to be > downloaded from the net (e.g., FTP), but that would not cost you > 236MB like it's currently for the miniinst.iso for 5.1/Alpha -- > the "base" distribution on FTP is only 47MB. Hm, yes. OK. > If there's some interest, I could add the support for generating > miniboot.iso to release/Makefile. This would be extremely > useful for other platforms too, including i386. Just let me > know if there's a strong interest in this. I think people would like that yes. -- | / o / /_ _ wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 12:41:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649EE37B401; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7749743F75; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:41:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6TJfZCE006817; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:41:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6TJfZrZ006816; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:41:35 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:41:35 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20030729194135.GJ6508@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030722081738.GB7811@sunbay.com> <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> <20030729173848.GE4940@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729192343.GB66399@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030729192343.GB66399@sunbay.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: Marcel Moolenaar cc: Wilko Bulte cc: Scott Long cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG cc: David O'Brien cc: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:41:38 -0000 On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 10:23:43PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 07:38:48PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:54:36PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > [...] > > > I've got that feeling that the consensus was to drop the floppy > > > support for Alpha, as supporting it becomes a nightmare. If so, > > > > Yes, that consensus seems to be there. Finally.. :) > > > > > I also get comments that only ISOs aka mandatory CDboot is not > > acceptable. > > > Sure. We need to provide the loss of functionality. Please see > my other reply to an earlier message in this same thread, which > has more appropriate context for this. > > > Other than that I think the patch does what you intend it to do. > > > Thanks, it sure does. :-) > But does that also mean that you'd feel comfortable if I committed > it now? I think beter now than really close to the release. But there might be other views maybe? -- | / o / /_ _ wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 12:54:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF33437B401; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFC243F3F; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:54:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6TJsnLW003637; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:54:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6TJsnIP003636; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:54:49 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20030729195449.GA3614@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Ruslan Ermilov , Wilko Bulte , Scott Long , Wilko Bulte , Marcel Moolenaar , Poul-Henning Kamp , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20030722081738.GB7811@sunbay.com> <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> <20030729173848.GE4940@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729192343.GB66399@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030729192343.GB66399@sunbay.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: Marcel Moolenaar cc: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Scott Long cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:54:52 -0000 On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 10:23:43PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > Other than that I think the patch does what you intend it to do. > > > Thanks, it sure does. :-) > But does that also mean that you'd feel comfortable if I committed > it now? Not as posted. As I mentioned, the patch does too much. Can you post a new patch that produces a single 8MB MFSBOOT "floppy" image? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 13:22:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A56837B401; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4463743FBF; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:21:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6TKLo0U076379 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:21:50 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h6TKLoF5076374; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:21:50 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:21:50 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "David O'Brien" , Wilko Bulte , Scott Long , Wilko Bulte , Marcel Moolenaar , Poul-Henning Kamp , alpha@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030729202150.GD66399@sunbay.com> References: <20030722081738.GB7811@sunbay.com> <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> <20030729173848.GE4940@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729192343.GB66399@sunbay.com> <20030729195449.GA3614@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9dgjiU4MmWPVapMU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030729195449.GA3614@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:22:01 -0000 --9dgjiU4MmWPVapMU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:54:49PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 10:23:43PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > Other than that I think the patch does what you intend it to do. > > >=20 > > Thanks, it sure does. :-) > > But does that also mean that you'd feel comfortable if I committed > > it now? >=20 > Not as posted. As I mentioned, the patch does too much. Can you post a > new patch that produces a single 8MB MFSBOOT "floppy" image? >=20 MFSBOOT? This is something new. :-) I guess you mean the current boot.flp by it, right? If yes, I can't see a point in having it, so please explain. How it could be used? For sparc64, boot.flp is useful, beause "you can dd it to a disk =66rom solaris and then boot off it to install", according to Jake. Can the same be made on Alpha? Otherwise, I don't see a point in having it. The idea is to have a miniboot.iso that just resembles the contents of the boot.flp, but can be used to boot off the CD-ROM (and then do an FTP installation, for example). Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software Ltd, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --9dgjiU4MmWPVapMU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/JtdeUkv4P6juNwoRAiEHAJ9KfPym0B3SWlN393ZoBHAHjPx2uACeLjgh 0nW662pS/p6upcCXXIphZss= =9FLA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9dgjiU4MmWPVapMU-- From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 15:18:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D41C37B401 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2ED43F3F for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:18:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsato@mac.com) Received: from webmail01.mac.com (webmail01-en1 [10.13.11.143]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id h6TMIq5I028228 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail01 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webmail01.mac.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h6TMIpYE010406 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8188769.1059517131841.JavaMail.rsato@mac.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:18:51 -0700 From: Randy Sato To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: makecontext doesn't work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:18:53 -0000 In configure for gstreamer-0.6.2, a check for a working makecontext/swapcontext loops forever because it appears that makecontext does not work and the child function is never called. Instead execution continues just after the getcontext() call. Is this a bug in makecontext or in configure? This is using 5.1-Release on alpha. #include #include #include ucontext_t uc_child; ucontext_t uc_main; void child(void /**arg*/) { void *arg = NULL; if (arg != (void *)12345) exit(1); if (swapcontext(&uc_child, &uc_main) != 0) exit(1); } int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { FILE *fp; void *stack; /* the default is that it fails */ if ((fp = fopen("conftestval", "w")) == NULL) exit(1); fprintf(fp, "no\n"); fclose(fp); /* configure a child user-space context */ if ((stack = malloc(64*1024)) == NULL) exit(1); if (getcontext(&uc_child) != 0) exit(1); uc_child.uc_link = NULL; uc_child.uc_stack.ss_sp = (char *)stack+(32*1024); uc_child.uc_stack.ss_size = 32*1024; uc_child.uc_stack.ss_flags = 0; makecontext(&uc_child, child, 2, (void *)12345); /* switch into the user context */ if (swapcontext(&uc_main, &uc_child) != 0) exit(1); /* Fine, child came home */ if ((fp = fopen("conftestval", "w")) == NULL) exit(1); fprintf(fp, "yes\n"); fclose(fp); /* die successfully */ exit(0); } From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 18:43:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A1137B401; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8110C43F93; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:43:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6U1hQLW006522; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:43:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6U1hQJg006521; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:43:26 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Ruslan Ermilov , Wilko Bulte , Scott Long , Wilko Bulte , Marcel Moolenaar , Poul-Henning Kamp , alpha@FreeBSD.org References: <20030722081738.GB7811@sunbay.com> <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> <20030729173848.GE4940@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729192343.GB66399@sunbay.com> <20030729195449.GA3614@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030729202150.GD66399@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030729202150.GD66399@sunbay.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: Marcel Moolenaar cc: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Scott Long cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:43:30 -0000 On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 11:21:50PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:54:49PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 10:23:43PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > > Other than that I think the patch does what you intend it to do. > > > > > > > Thanks, it sure does. :-) > > > But does that also mean that you'd feel comfortable if I committed > > > it now? > > > > Not as posted. As I mentioned, the patch does too much. Can you post a > > new patch that produces a single 8MB MFSBOOT "floppy" image? > > > MFSBOOT? This is something new. :-) > > I guess you mean the current boot.flp by it, right? If yes, > I can't see a point in having it, so please explain. How it > could be used? > > For sparc64, boot.flp is useful, beause "you can dd it to a disk > from solaris and then boot off it to install", according to > Jake. Can the same be made on Alpha? Yes it can. MFSROOT(BOOT) what ever you want to call it. I.e., / is not the hard disk you want to install on -- thus it has to be RAM disk so the real hard disk device isn't opened. > The idea is to have a miniboot.iso that just resembles the > contents of the boot.flp, but can be used to boot off the > CD-ROM (and then do an FTP installation, for example). NO! The idea is to have an image that has / as a memory file system, that has a full GENERIC kernel *and* has a full set of modules *and* has sysinstall as /sbin/init. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 21:06:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C960237B401 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.BAYAREA.NET [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7A443F93 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:06:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.201]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6U46owO066070; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:06:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6U46o9B004604; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:06:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6U46nPQ004603; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:06:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:06:49 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Randy Sato Message-ID: <20030730040649.GA4580@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <8188769.1059517131841.JavaMail.rsato@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8188769.1059517131841.JavaMail.rsato@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: makecontext doesn't work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:06:52 -0000 On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 03:18:51PM -0700, Randy Sato wrote: > In configure for gstreamer-0.6.2, a check for a working > makecontext/swapcontext loops forever because it appears > that makecontext does not work and the child function is > never called. Instead execution continues just after the > getcontext() call. > > Is this a bug in makecontext or in configure? It's a bug in our *context stuff. I'll see if I can take a look at it. -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 21:59:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F67037B401; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B3643FD7; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:59:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6U4xm0U022722 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:59:48 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h6U4xkVi022713; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:59:46 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:59:46 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "David O'Brien" , Wilko Bulte , Scott Long , Wilko Bulte , Marcel Moolenaar , Poul-Henning Kamp , alpha@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> References: <20030722081738.GB7811@sunbay.com> <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> <20030729173848.GE4940@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729192343.GB66399@sunbay.com> <20030729195449.GA3614@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030729202150.GD66399@sunbay.com> <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:59:55 -0000 --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 06:43:26PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 11:21:50PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:54:49PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 10:23:43PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > > > Other than that I think the patch does what you intend it to do. > > > > >=20 > > > > Thanks, it sure does. :-) > > > > But does that also mean that you'd feel comfortable if I committed > > > > it now? > > >=20 > > > Not as posted. As I mentioned, the patch does too much. Can you pos= t a > > > new patch that produces a single 8MB MFSBOOT "floppy" image? > > >=20 > > MFSBOOT? This is something new. :-) > >=20 > > I guess you mean the current boot.flp by it, right? If yes, > > I can't see a point in having it, so please explain. How it > > could be used? > >=20 > > For sparc64, boot.flp is useful, beause "you can dd it to a disk > > from solaris and then boot off it to install", according to > > Jake. Can the same be made on Alpha? >=20 > Yes it can. MFSROOT(BOOT) what ever you want to call it. I.e., / is not > the hard disk you want to install on -- thus it has to be RAM disk so the > real hard disk device isn't opened. >=20 Please provide a real-world scenario how this image could be used. The contents of MFS root floppy does *NOT* have a kernel, and just increasing its size to say 10M won't do the trick. > > The idea is to have a miniboot.iso that just resembles the > > contents of the boot.flp, but can be used to boot off the > > CD-ROM (and then do an FTP installation, for example). >=20 > NO! The idea is to have an image that has / as a memory file system, > that has a full GENERIC kernel *and* has a full set of modules *and* has > sysinstall as /sbin/init. >=20 How such an image can be used on Alpha? (This is what miniboot.iso will look like, and I think we can even generate both ISO image and floppy image from it, but I just cannot understand how the latter can be used on Alpha, please answer the question above.) Can anyone else out there please explian what David wants, as I just cannot understand it, despite trying really hard? Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software Ltd, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/J1DCUkv4P6juNwoRAvDUAJ9g5stXOfL9z8iZ0uFZDcWcWwctYQCgipah tuej4phJdN3py58PEEw8rDw= =7SCF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI-- From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 22:23:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165B937B401; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2B843FB1; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:23:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6U5N8o6019855; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:23:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6U5N8M2019854; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:23:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:23:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307300523.h6U5N8M2019854@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: current@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 05:23:10 -0000 TB --- 2003-07-30 04:00:05 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2003-07-30 04:00:05 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-30 04:02:05 - building world TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/i386/usr/include >>> stage 4: building libraries >>> stage 4: make dependencies >>> stage 4: building everything.. 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TB --- 2003-07-30 05:23:07 - /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2003-07-30 05:23:07 - ERROR: failed to build lint kernel TB --- 2003-07-30 05:23:07 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 08:40:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F6137B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173A143F75; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:40:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UFeqLW055805; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:40:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6UFeqx4055804; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:40:52 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Ruslan Ermilov , Wilko Bulte , Scott Long , Wilko Bulte , Marcel Moolenaar , Poul-Henning Kamp , alpha@FreeBSD.org References: <20030722081738.GB7811@sunbay.com> <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> <20030729173848.GE4940@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729192343.GB66399@sunbay.com> <20030729195449.GA3614@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030729202150.GD66399@sunbay.com> <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: Marcel Moolenaar cc: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Scott Long cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:40:54 -0000 On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 07:59:46AM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > Please provide a real-world scenario how this image could be > used. The contents of MFS root floppy does *NOT* have a > kernel, and just increasing its size to say 10M won't do > the trick. At this point I almost think you're just purposefully being dense. If you can't figure out the functionality I'm talking about please go find an old Sun3 or Sun4c machine and install SunOS. From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 08:54:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F81637B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB13B43FA3; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:54:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6UFsF0U000987 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:54:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h6UFsES2000982; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:54:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:54:14 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "David O'Brien" , Wilko Bulte , Scott Long , Wilko Bulte , Marcel Moolenaar , Poul-Henning Kamp , alpha@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> References: <20030722081738.GB7811@sunbay.com> <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> <20030729173848.GE4940@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729192343.GB66399@sunbay.com> <20030729195449.GA3614@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030729202150.GD66399@sunbay.com> <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KsGdsel6WgEHnImy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:54:28 -0000 --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 08:40:52AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 07:59:46AM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > Please provide a real-world scenario how this image could be > > used. The contents of MFS root floppy does *NOT* have a > > kernel, and just increasing its size to say 10M won't do > > the trick. >=20 > At this point I almost think you're just purposefully being dense. >=20 No, of course not. Let's not start it again, PLEASE. > If > you can't figure out the functionality I'm talking about please go find > an old Sun3 or Sun4c machine and install SunOS. >=20 I'm just trying to understand how a file system image can be useful on Alpha. When I asked a similar question for sparc64, the answer was: On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 11:57:58AM -0400, Jake Burkholder wrote: > > boot.flp is actually useful on sparc64 because you can dd it to a disk > from solaris and then boot off it to install. I'm happy with having > the option of not building it if it saves time but please make it an > option. > > Jake Something along these lines for Alpha? Even if it does work for Alpha too (please tell me how), the miniboot.iso is still much more useful, as it allows one to install on a "bare" machine, while using a file system image requires some other OS/loader/whatever already installed on this machine that also understands this file system image. While I can easily see how this works for sparc64 (it uses sunlabel(8) which SUNs apparently understand), I cannot intuit how and if the same is going to work on Alpha, so please tell me. This is a simple question: given the file system image with a GENERIC kernel and an MFS root file system on it, how it can be used to install FreeBSD on Alpha? Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software Ltd, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/J+omUkv4P6juNwoRAozTAKCFKZB5XV6qM8+7vRjQQczNWGLqHQCeL09X 1ARaBNo52y9DE0JoeAUKaYY= =x6yX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy-- From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 10:22:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6218837B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6E543F93; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:22:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6UHMto6015733; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:22:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6UHMtjC015732; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:22:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:22:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307301722.h6UHMtjC015732@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: current@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:22:57 -0000 TB --- 2003-07-30 16:00:05 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2003-07-30 16:00:05 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-30 16:02:04 - building world TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/i386/usr/include >>> stage 4: building libraries >>> stage 4: make dependencies >>> stage 4: building everything.. 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TB --- 2003-07-30 17:22:54 - /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2003-07-30 17:22:54 - ERROR: failed to build lint kernel TB --- 2003-07-30 17:22:54 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 11:54:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73F237B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4219E43FAF; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:54:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UIsCCE071610; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:54:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6UIsC64071609; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:54:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:54:12 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030722081738.GB7811@sunbay.com> <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> <20030729173848.GE4940@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729192343.GB66399@sunbay.com> <20030729195449.GA3614@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030729202150.GD66399@sunbay.com> <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: Marcel Moolenaar cc: David O'Brien cc: Scott Long cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org cc: Wilko Bulte cc: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:54:16 -0000 On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:54:14PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 08:40:52AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 07:59:46AM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: [.. bickering deleted ] > > you can't figure out the functionality I'm talking about please go find > > an old Sun3 or Sun4c machine and install SunOS. > > > I'm just trying to understand how a file system image can be > useful on Alpha. When I asked a similar question for sparc64, > the answer was: > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 11:57:58AM -0400, Jake Burkholder wrote: > > > > boot.flp is actually useful on sparc64 because you can dd it to a disk > > from solaris and then boot off it to install. I'm happy with having > > the option of not building it if it saves time but please make it an > > option. > > > > Jake > > Something along these lines for Alpha? Yes, exactly. > Even if it does work for Alpha too (please tell me how), the NetBSD does something like that. > miniboot.iso is still much more useful, as it allows one to install I like it better too. But some people argue that not having to write the ISO on CDR is a good thing(TM). W/ -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 12:07:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B0F37B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8DD243FA3; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:07:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UJ7YaK054315 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:07:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UJ7WAx089118 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:07:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UJ7VNS096124; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:07:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6UJ7Vuq096123; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:07:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:07:31 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Wilko Bulte Message-ID: <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> <20030729173848.GE4940@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729192343.GB66399@sunbay.com> <20030729195449.GA3614@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030729202150.GD66399@sunbay.com> <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.1-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Scott Long cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Wilko Bulte cc: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:07:47 -0000 On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 08:54:12PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:54:14PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > miniboot.iso is still much more useful, as it allows one to install > > I like it better too. But some people argue that not having to write > the ISO on CDR is a good thing(TM). The dd the ISO to HDD. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de ticso@bwct.de info@bwct.de From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 12:17:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C0737B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D202343F85; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:17:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UJHdCE071849; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:17:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6UJHcG1071848; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:17:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:17:38 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: ticso@cicely.de Message-ID: <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030729173848.GE4940@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729192343.GB66399@sunbay.com> <20030729195449.GA3614@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030729202150.GD66399@sunbay.com> <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Scott Long cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Wilko Bulte cc: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:17:41 -0000 On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:07:31PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 08:54:12PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:54:14PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > miniboot.iso is still much more useful, as it allows one to install > > > > I like it better too. But some people argue that not having to write > > the ISO on CDR is a good thing(TM). > > The dd the ISO to HDD. Where do you start the dd from then? (I agree, the non-ISO fs image suffers from the same problem). -- | / o / /_ _ FreeBSD core team secretary |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 12:48:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C0737B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B2043FA3; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:48:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UJmWaK054914 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:48:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UJmVAx089347 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:48:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UJmUNS096283; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:48:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6UJmUZW096282; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:48:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:48:30 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Wilko Bulte Message-ID: <20030730194829.GQ42805@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20030729192343.GB66399@sunbay.com> <20030729195449.GA3614@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030729202150.GD66399@sunbay.com> <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.1-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Scott Long cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: ticso@cicely.de cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:48:38 -0000 On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:17:38PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:07:31PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 08:54:12PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:54:14PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > > miniboot.iso is still much more useful, as it allows one to install > > > > > > I like it better too. But some people argue that not having to write > > > the ISO on CDR is a good thing(TM). > > > > The dd the ISO to HDD. > > Where do you start the dd from then? (I agree, the non-ISO fs image > suffers from the same problem). If you want do download something to bootstrap you need a machine with network service and the capability to write data to a bootable media. And we still have a large selection of possible media: CD, CDR, HDD, MO, ZIP, Ethernet, ... If you can't - then you have to buy a bootable media - usually a CD. I see no alternative to the problem and it's nothing new. Maybe David knows one - I failed to understand his last argument. Possibly I have to take one of my sun3 and install SunOS to understand. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de ticso@bwct.de info@bwct.de From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 13:11:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555B637B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48C343F3F; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:11:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UKB9CE072295; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:11:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6UKB9iG072294; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:11:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:11:09 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: ticso@cicely.de Message-ID: <20030730201109.GA72260@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030729195449.GA3614@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030729202150.GD66399@sunbay.com> <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730194829.GQ42805@cicely12.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030730194829.GQ42805@cicely12.cicely.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Scott Long cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:11:14 -0000 On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:48:30PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:17:38PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:07:31PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 08:54:12PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:54:14PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > > > miniboot.iso is still much more useful, as it allows one to install > > > > > > > > I like it better too. But some people argue that not having to write > > > > the ISO on CDR is a good thing(TM). > > > > > > The dd the ISO to HDD. > > > > Where do you start the dd from then? (I agree, the non-ISO fs image > > suffers from the same problem). > > If you want do download something to bootstrap you need a machine with > network service and the capability to write data to a bootable media. > And we still have a large selection of possible media: CD, CDR, HDD, > MO, ZIP, Ethernet, ... > If you can't - then you have to buy a bootable media - usually a CD. > I see no alternative to the problem and it's nothing new. > Maybe David knows one - I failed to understand his last argument. > Possibly I have to take one of my sun3 and install SunOS to understand. Well, I have done something like this once by pulling a StorageWorks SBB disk from a machine where I dd-ed an OS ontop of it and then put that disk in another machine to boot it. So it can be done. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 13:48:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7468737B401 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail10.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6982443FA3 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:48:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 28552 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 20:48:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 30 Jul 2003 20:48:43 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UKmaGI068855; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:48:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20030728104725.GA52281@rot13.obsecurity.org> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:48:57 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Kris Kennaway cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: panic: sleeping thread owns a mutex X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:48:45 -0000 On 28-Jul-2003 Kris Kennaway wrote: > One of the alpha package machines just died with the following: > > panic: sleeping thread owns a mutex > panic() at panic+0x160 > propagate_priority() at propagate_priority+0x148 > _mtx_lock_sleep() at _mtx_lock_sleep+0x264 > _mtx_lock_flags() at _mtx_lock_flags+0x84 > _vm_map_lock() at _vm_map_lock+0x40 > vm_map_remove() at vm_map_remove+0x34 > kmem_free() at kmem_free+0x34 > pipe_free_kmem() at pipe_free_kmem+0xbc > pipeclose() at pipeclose+0x188 > pipe_close() at pipe_close+0x40 > fdrop_locked() at fdrop_locked+0x180 > fdrop() at fdrop+0x50 > closef() at closef+0x260 > fdfree() at fdfree+0x3c4 > exit1() at exit1+0x578 > sys_exit() at sys_exit+0x58 > syscall() at syscall+0x338 > XentSys() at XentSys+0x64 > --- syscall (1, FreeBSD ELF64, sys_exit) --- > --- user mode --- > db> > > (gdb -k is still broken on alpha, so I can't do better). The machine > is running a kernel from June 20. The only way to track these down is to use witness. By the time we get here it becomes a lot harder to track down. It does look to be alc@'s fault since it is a vm_map mutex however. To get better info, you are going to need to do the following in ddb when it panics: - Examine the mutex structure to find the lock owner, then examine the thread structure to find the proc pointer, and finally, examine the proc structure to find the pid. - or - - Change the panic message to print the PID. I just committed this. Then: - trace to see where it slept -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 13:48:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C002237B401 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail13.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7758643FD7 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:48:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 10272 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 20:48:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 30 Jul 2003 20:48:52 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UKmlGI068861; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:48:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20030729174453.GA1201@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:49:07 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Scott Long cc: Marcel Moolenaar cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:48:57 -0000 On 29-Jul-2003 David O'Brien wrote: > [ Reply-to: set back to list ] > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 07:38:48PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:54:36PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: >> > I've got that feeling that the consensus was to drop the floppy >> > support for Alpha, as supporting it becomes a nightmare. If so, >> >> Yes, that consensus seems to be there. Finally.. :) >> >> The question is if the way forward is a minimini.iso so a really >> minimal ISO image (<< in size that miniinst.iso) or some other mechanism >> like NetBSD or ancient SunOS 3.x used. Which, IIRC, was an image one dropped >> in to the swap area of a disk and booted from. > > Why do we have to choose one? We should offer multiple ways (as we do > today). The problem is not offering a small downloadable image to > install an Alpha from -- but that 1.44MB is a ridiculous size constraint > for that image. All we need is a truly miniiso. More of a boot-only iso. The same thing could be stuck in a UFS image if people wish. Basically a /R/cdrom/boot that contains just the /boot directory contents. People can then either make an ISO from that or they can make a UFS image and dd it to a disk. This would be orthogonal to floppies, btw. Probably we would always create the boot.iso area under /R and on archs that can use it, we can create a UFS disk image that contains that system. On the other hand, if dd'ing an actual ISO works fine, then we could just leave it at that. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 13:56:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECD637B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B1D43FA3; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:56:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UKuqCE072838; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:56:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6UKuq6G072837; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:56:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:56:52 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20030730205652.GA72822@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030729174453.GA1201@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Marcel Moolenaar cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Wilko Bulte cc: Scott Long Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:56:55 -0000 On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 04:49:07PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 29-Jul-2003 David O'Brien wrote: > > [ Reply-to: set back to list ] > > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 07:38:48PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:54:36PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > >> > I've got that feeling that the consensus was to drop the floppy > >> > support for Alpha, as supporting it becomes a nightmare. If so, > >> > >> Yes, that consensus seems to be there. Finally.. :) > >> > >> The question is if the way forward is a minimini.iso so a really > >> minimal ISO image (<< in size that miniinst.iso) or some other mechanism > >> like NetBSD or ancient SunOS 3.x used. Which, IIRC, was an image one dropped > >> in to the swap area of a disk and booted from. > > > > Why do we have to choose one? We should offer multiple ways (as we do > > today). The problem is not offering a small downloadable image to > > install an Alpha from -- but that 1.44MB is a ridiculous size constraint > > for that image. > > All we need is a truly miniiso. More of a boot-only iso. The same thing > could be stuck in a UFS image if people wish. Basically a /R/cdrom/boot > that contains just the /boot directory contents. People can then either > make an ISO from that or they can make a UFS image and dd it to a disk. > > This would be orthogonal to floppies, btw. Probably we would always > create the boot.iso area under /R and on archs that can use it, we can > create a UFS disk image that contains that system. On the other hand, > if dd'ing an actual ISO works fine, then we could just leave it at that. Given that I just put an extra disk in the 4100 I'll try that and report back. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 13:57:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013CA37B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662AE43F85; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:57:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6UKuL0U033592 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:56:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h6UKuLOm033587; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:56:21 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:56:20 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Wilko Bulte Message-ID: <20030730205620.GB33188@sunbay.com> References: <20030729202150.GD66399@sunbay.com> <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730194829.GQ42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730201109.GA72260@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yNb1oOkm5a9FJOVX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030730201109.GA72260@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Scott Long cc: ticso@cicely.de cc: Wilko Bulte cc: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:57:21 -0000 --yNb1oOkm5a9FJOVX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 10:11:09PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:48:30PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:17:38PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:07:31PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 08:54:12PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:54:14PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > > > > miniboot.iso is still much more useful, as it allows one to ins= tall > > > > >=20 > > > > > I like it better too. But some people argue that not having to wr= ite > > > > > the ISO on CDR is a good thing(TM). > > > >=20 > > > > The dd the ISO to HDD. > > >=20 > > > Where do you start the dd from then? (I agree, the non-ISO fs image > > > suffers from the same problem). > >=20 > > If you want do download something to bootstrap you need a machine with > > network service and the capability to write data to a bootable media. > > And we still have a large selection of possible media: CD, CDR, HDD, > > MO, ZIP, Ethernet, ... > > If you can't - then you have to buy a bootable media - usually a CD. > > I see no alternative to the problem and it's nothing new. > > Maybe David knows one - I failed to understand his last argument. > > Possibly I have to take one of my sun3 and install SunOS to understand. >=20 > Well, I have done something like this once by pulling a StorageWorks > SBB disk from a machine where I dd-ed an OS ontop of it and then put > that disk in another machine to boot it. >=20 > So it can be done. >=20 Don't you think that this should be an official way to install FreeBSD on Alpha? :-) Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software Ltd, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --yNb1oOkm5a9FJOVX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/KDD0Ukv4P6juNwoRAnfzAJ9tpDWfB7+bpIPoGBFZZmhEiyKDQACePsD7 D95iAU+JPp+IY/qxmJZvTIY= =lq2t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yNb1oOkm5a9FJOVX-- From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 15:22:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8F737B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F94C43F85; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:22:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UMMsCE073462; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:22:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6UMMsEB073461; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:22:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:22:54 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20030730222254.GA73438@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030729174453.GA1201@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Marcel Moolenaar cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Wilko Bulte cc: Scott Long Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:22:57 -0000 On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 04:49:07PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 29-Jul-2003 David O'Brien wrote: > > [ Reply-to: set back to list ] > > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 07:38:48PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:54:36PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > >> > I've got that feeling that the consensus was to drop the floppy > >> > support for Alpha, as supporting it becomes a nightmare. If so, > >> > >> Yes, that consensus seems to be there. Finally.. :) > >> > >> The question is if the way forward is a minimini.iso so a really > >> minimal ISO image (<< in size that miniinst.iso) or some other mechanism > >> like NetBSD or ancient SunOS 3.x used. Which, IIRC, was an image one dropped > >> in to the swap area of a disk and booted from. > > > > Why do we have to choose one? We should offer multiple ways (as we do > > today). The problem is not offering a small downloadable image to > > install an Alpha from -- but that 1.44MB is a ridiculous size constraint > > for that image. > > All we need is a truly miniiso. More of a boot-only iso. The same thing > could be stuck in a UFS image if people wish. Basically a /R/cdrom/boot > that contains just the /boot directory contents. People can then either > make an ISO from that or they can make a UFS image and dd it to a disk. > > This would be orthogonal to floppies, btw. Probably we would always > create the boot.iso area under /R and on archs that can use it, we can > create a UFS disk image that contains that system. On the other hand, > if dd'ing an actual ISO works fine, then we could just leave it at that. polling isp0 (QLogic ISP10X0) slot 4, bus 0 PCI, hose 0 SCSI Bus ID 7 dkb0.0.0.4.0 DKB0 SEAGATE ST39103LC 0002 dkb100.1.0.4.0 DKB100 IBM DDRS-39130W S92A P00>>>boot dkb100 (boot dkb100.1.0.4.0 -flags 0) block 0 of dkb100.1.0.4.0 is a valid boot block reading 390 blocks from dkb100.1.0.4.0 bootstrap code read in base = 200000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 30c00 initializing HWRPB at 2000 initializing page table at 1f2000 initializing machine state setting affinity to the primary CPU configuring I/O adapters... ncr0, hose 1, bus 0, slot 1 floppy0, hose 0, bus 1, slot 0 isp0, hose 0, bus 0, slot 4 jumping to bootstrap code Console: SRM firmware console VMS PAL rev: 0x4000200010115 OSF PAL rev: 0x4000200020117 Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded. FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 1.2 (root@mithlond.btc.adaptec.com, Wed Jun 4 15:10:16 GMT 2003) Memory: 2097152 k Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf /boot/kernel/kernel data=0x4cd740+0x63ca0 syms=[0x8+0x65550+0x8+0x4d8a3] - Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [/boot/kernel/kernel]... Entering /boot/kernel/kernel at 0xfffffc000033f0e0... Unrecognized boot flag '0'. Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun 5 01:42:39 GMT 2003 root@mithlond.btc.adaptec.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xfffffc0000d20000. Preloaded mfs_root "/boot/mfsroot" at 0xfffffc0000d200d0. ... bla bla ... SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0 WARNING: clock gained 55 days -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! /stand/sysinstall running as init on serial console These are the predefined terminal types available to sysinstall when running stand-alone. Please choose the closest match for your particular terminal. 1 ...................... Standard ANSI terminal. 2 ...................... VT100 or compatible terminal. 3 ...................... FreeBSD system console (color). 4 ...................... FreeBSD system console (monochrome). 5 ...................... xterm terminal emulator. Your choice: (1-5) In short: no need for anything but the minimal-size ISO image as a floppy replacement. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 15:23:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AF837B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F1B43F3F; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:23:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UMNaCE073483; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:23:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6UMNahT073482; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:23:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:23:36 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20030730222336.GB73438@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730194829.GQ42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730201109.GA72260@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730205620.GB33188@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030730205620.GB33188@sunbay.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Scott Long cc: ticso@cicely.de cc: Wilko Bulte cc: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:23:47 -0000 On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 11:56:20PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 10:11:09PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:48:30PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:17:38PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:07:31PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 08:54:12PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:54:14PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > > > > > miniboot.iso is still much more useful, as it allows one to install > > > > > > > > > > > > I like it better too. But some people argue that not having to write > > > > > > the ISO on CDR is a good thing(TM). > > > > > > > > > > The dd the ISO to HDD. > > > > > > > > Where do you start the dd from then? (I agree, the non-ISO fs image > > > > suffers from the same problem). > > > > > > If you want do download something to bootstrap you need a machine with > > > network service and the capability to write data to a bootable media. > > > And we still have a large selection of possible media: CD, CDR, HDD, > > > MO, ZIP, Ethernet, ... > > > If you can't - then you have to buy a bootable media - usually a CD. > > > I see no alternative to the problem and it's nothing new. > > > Maybe David knows one - I failed to understand his last argument. > > > Possibly I have to take one of my sun3 and install SunOS to understand. > > > > Well, I have done something like this once by pulling a StorageWorks > > SBB disk from a machine where I dd-ed an OS ontop of it and then put > > that disk in another machine to boot it. > > > > So it can be done. > > > Don't you think that this should be an official way to install > FreeBSD on Alpha? :-) Well... if need be. But read the mail on my experiment with a dd of the miniinst.iso onto a harddisk. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 15:39:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C55B37B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166A843F93; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:39:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UMdfQX004712; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:39:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6UMdexT004711; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:39:39 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Wilko Bulte Message-ID: <20030730223939.GA4693@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Wilko Bulte , ticso@cicely.de, Ruslan Ermilov , Marcel Moolenaar , Scott Long , alpha@freebsd.org, Wilko Bulte , Poul-Henning Kamp References: <20030729192343.GB66399@sunbay.com> <20030729195449.GA3614@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030729202150.GD66399@sunbay.com> <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Scott Long cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: ticso@cicely.de cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:39:54 -0000 On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:17:38PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:07:31PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 08:54:12PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:54:14PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > > miniboot.iso is still much more useful, as it allows one to install > > > > > > I like it better too. But some people argue that not having to write > > > the ISO on CDR is a good thing(TM). > > > > The dd the ISO to HDD. > > Where do you start the dd from then? (I agree, the non-ISO fs image > suffers from the same problem). Anywhere :-) Mostly, you would "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da1" ; disklabel da1 auto ; disklable -e da1 #create 'a' partition# ; dd if=bootable.img of=/dev/da1a On sparc, you can easily boot from any partition, so you can dd it to a swap partition and do 'boot disk1:b'. From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 20:33:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E9E37B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail3.alcanet.com.au [208.178.117.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BA943F85; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:33:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Received: from sydsmtp01.alcatel.com.au (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])h6V3XYvU002227; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:33:34 +1000 Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au ([139.188.20.247]) by sydsmtp01.alcatel.com.au (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.12) with ESMTP id 2003073113333433:7581 ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:33:34 +1000 Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6V3XX7d009763; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:33:33 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6V3XWld009762; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:33:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:33:32 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Wilko Bulte Message-ID: <20030731033332.GN430@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Wilko Bulte , ticso@cicely.de, alpha@freebsd.org, Scott Long , Ruslan Ermilov , Poul-Henning Kamp References: <20030729202150.GD66399@sunbay.com> <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730194829.GQ42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730201109.GA72260@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20030730201109.GA72260@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on SYDSMTP01/AlcatelAustralia(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 31/07/2003 01:33:34 PM,|February 13, 2003) at 31/07/2003 01:33:35 PM, Serialize complete at 31/07/2003 01:33:35 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Scott Long cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: ticso@cicely.de cc: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:33:55 -0000 On 2003-Jul-30 22:11:09 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: [dd the install image onto a HDD] >Well, I have done something like this once by pulling a StorageWorks >SBB disk from a machine where I dd-ed an OS ontop of it and then put >that disk in another machine to boot it. I also had to do it to bootstrap my Multia - no floppy drive or CD-ROM and the FreeBSD netboot is incompatible with the Multia SRM. It's a nuisance unless you have removable media and a running system where you can attach the media but it is doable. It's still easier than installing a Sun3 from tape. Peter From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 20:36:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BED37B404; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail3.alcanet.com.au [208.178.117.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E04E43F3F; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:36:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Received: from sydsmtp01.alcatel.com.au (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])h6V3aGvU002601; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:36:17 +1000 Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au ([139.188.20.247]) by sydsmtp01.alcatel.com.au (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.12) with ESMTP id 2003073113361603:7607 ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:36:16 +1000 Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6V3aF7d009780; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:36:15 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6V3aFih009779; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:36:15 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:36:15 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20030731033615.GO430@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Ruslan Ermilov , Scott Long , Marcel Moolenaar , alpha@freebsd.org, David O'Brien , Wilko Bulte , Poul-Henning Kamp References: <20030722081738.GB7811@sunbay.com> <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on SYDSMTP01/AlcatelAustralia(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 31/07/2003 01:36:16 PM,|February 13, 2003) at 31/07/2003 01:36:17 PM, Serialize complete at 31/07/2003 01:36:17 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline cc: Scott Long cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Wilko Bulte cc: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:36:21 -0000 On 2003-Jul-29 12:54:36 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: >On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:17:38AM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: >> After that, it will be trivial to axe the floppy support for >> Alpha too. >> >I've got that feeling that the consensus was to drop the floppy >support for Alpha, as supporting it becomes a nightmare. If so, >could any of you please review the attached patch? (It makes >Alpha similar to AMD64 regarding floppies, i.e., no floppies.) I hope we're just talking about booting from floppy here. There's Ruslan's patch doesn't actually remove the floppy device and the rest of the thread concentrates on "booting" but that magic word is missing from the above (and it wasn't in the trimmed context). Peter From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 21:24:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D7037B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F6343FB1; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:24:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6V4O00U077573 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:24:02 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h6V4O0SV077568; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:24:00 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:24:00 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Wilko Bulte Message-ID: <20030731042400.GA77193@sunbay.com> References: <20030729174453.GA1201@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730222254.GA73438@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6TrnltStXW4iwmi0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030730222254.GA73438@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: Scott Long cc: Marcel Moolenaar cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Wilko Bulte cc: John Baldwin Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:24:19 -0000 --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:22:54AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: [...] > FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 1.2 > (root@mithlond.btc.adaptec.com, Wed Jun 4 15:10:16 GMT 2003) > Memory: 2097152 k > Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf=20 > /boot/kernel/kernel data=3D0x4cd740+0x63ca0 syms=3D[0x8+0x65550+0x8+0x4d8= a3] > - > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. > Booting [/boot/kernel/kernel]... =20 > Entering /boot/kernel/kernel at 0xfffffc000033f0e0... [...] > Your choice: (1-5)=20 >=20 > In short: no need for anything but the minimal-size ISO image as a floppy > replacement.=20 >=20 Excellent! Thank you. I'll be back in a few days with the stuff for release/ to try, after sufficient testing on i386. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software Ltd, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/KJngUkv4P6juNwoRAt4IAJ0XmYGnuj5k1RrjyJVFcyE5Y2pqfgCeOgln apL97qVXRPh3HNmI0j+KqhM= =/BPo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0-- From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 22:24:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B1837B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F48C43FBD; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:24:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6V5Ofo6012180; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:24:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6V5Ofrf012179; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307310524.h6V5Ofrf012179@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: current@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:24:43 -0000 TB --- 2003-07-31 04:00:06 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2003-07-31 04:00:06 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-31 04:02:17 - building world TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/i386/usr/include >>> stage 4: building libraries >>> stage 4: make dependencies >>> stage 4: building everything.. TB --- 2003-07-31 05:08:01 - building generic kernel TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC >>> Kernel build for GENERIC started on Thu Jul 31 05:08:01 GMT 2003 >>> Kernel build for GENERIC completed on Thu Jul 31 05:19:56 GMT 2003 TB --- 2003-07-31 05:19:56 - generating LINT kernel config TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/alpha/conf TB --- /usr/bin/make -B LINT TB --- 2003-07-31 05:19:56 - building LINT kernel TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT >>> Kernel build for LINT started on Thu Jul 31 05:19:56 GMT 2003 [...] cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/pci/pci.c awk -f /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/tools/makeobjops.awk /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/pci/pci_if.m -c ; cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror pci_if.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/pci/pci_pci.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/pci/pci_user.c awk -f /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/tools/makeobjops.awk /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/pci/pcib_if.m -c ; cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror pcib_if.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/pdq/if_fea.c /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/pdq/if_fea.c: In function `pdq_eisa_probe': /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/pdq/if_fea.c:154: warning: passing arg 1 of `pdq_eisa_subprobe' makes pointer from integer without a cast *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/LINT. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. TB --- 2003-07-31 05:24:41 - /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2003-07-31 05:24:41 - ERROR: failed to build lint kernel TB --- 2003-07-31 05:24:41 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 22:37:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C80837B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.BAYAREA.NET [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7550043F93; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:36:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (athlon.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.3]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6V5axwO084014; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:36:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6V5awHm078977; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:36:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6V5aws4078881; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:36:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:36:58 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: alpha@FreeBSD.org, threads@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030731053658.GA62373@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: libthr ported to alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:37:00 -0000 Gang, In case it went unnoticed: libthr is now officially supported on alpha. JFYI, -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 23:57:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32F437B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-151-200-10-97.res.east.verizon.net (pool-138-88-5-64.res.east.verizon.net [138.88.5.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A95B443F75; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:57:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mtm@identd.net) Received: from kokeb.ambesa.net (kkmtq6kqkzqcunht@localhost [127.0.0.1]) id h6V6vGJO021906; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:57:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mtm@identd.net) Received: (from mtm@localhost) by kokeb.ambesa.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6V6vCWi021905; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:57:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mtm@identd.net) X-Authentication-Warning: kokeb.ambesa.net: mtm set sender to mtm@identd.net using -f Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:57:12 -0400 From: Mike Makonnen To: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <20030731065711.GA21875@kokeb.ambesa.net> References: <20030731053658.GA62373@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030731053658.GA62373@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/5.1-CURRENT (i386) cc: threads@freebsd.org cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libthr ported to alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:57:39 -0000 On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 10:36:58PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > Gang, > > In case it went unnoticed: libthr is now officially supported on > alpha. > That's great news! I completely missed it in the commit mails. Motivates me to continue the cleanup, as well :-) Cheers. -- Mike Makonnen | GPG-KEY: http://www.identd.net/~mtm/mtm.asc mtm@identd.net | D228 1A6F C64E 120A A1C9 A3AA DAE1 E2AF DBCC 68B9 mtm@FreeBSD.Org| FreeBSD - Unleash the Daemon! From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 01:11:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041AF37B401; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DB543FA3; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:11:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6V8BWCE075589; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:11:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6V8BWEh075588; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:11:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:11:32 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <20030731081132.GA75573@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030731053658.GA62373@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030731053658.GA62373@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: threads@freebsd.org cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libthr ported to alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:11:35 -0000 On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 10:36:58PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > Gang, > > In case it went unnoticed: libthr is now officially supported on > alpha. I owe you a Grolsch ;-) -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 01:32:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1DA37B401; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE6943FA3; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:32:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6V8VxaK066562 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:32:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6V8VvAx093207 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:31:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6V8VuNS099315; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:31:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6V8Vu4p099314; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:31:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:31:55 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Wilko Bulte , ticso@cicely.de, alpha@freebsd.org, Scott Long , Ruslan Ermilov , Poul-Henning Kamp Message-ID: <20030731083155.GA97176@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730194829.GQ42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730201109.GA72260@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030731033332.GN430@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030731033332.GN430@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.1-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:32:05 -0000 On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 01:33:32PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2003-Jul-30 22:11:09 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > [dd the install image onto a HDD] > >Well, I have done something like this once by pulling a StorageWorks > >SBB disk from a machine where I dd-ed an OS ontop of it and then put > >that disk in another machine to boot it. > > I also had to do it to bootstrap my Multia - no floppy drive or CD-ROM > and the FreeBSD netboot is incompatible with the Multia SRM. Must be multia specific - I netbooted a NoName. > It's a nuisance unless you have removable media and a running system > where you can attach the media but it is doable. IIRC have multias pcmcia slots. Can they boot from flash media? My IBM notebook supports this - and via adapter even from CF. > It's still easier than installing a Sun3 from tape. My first FreeBSD installation was done from tape. Unfortunately PC need another media to boot from :( -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de ticso@bwct.de info@bwct.de From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 01:45:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48ED137B401; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net (bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BCE43F75; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:45:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from user-38lc0sl.dialup.mindspring.com ([209.86.3.149] helo=mindspring.com) by bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19i93s-0005pg-00; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:45:25 -0700 Message-ID: <3F28D6EB.788CFD7@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:44:27 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wilko Bulte References: <20030722081738.GB7811@sunbay.com> <20030729173848.GE4940@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729195449.GA3614@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a40ed3f422d33198a1d0def702e8a5842fa2d4e88014a4647c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: Marcel Moolenaar cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: David O'Brien cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org cc: Scott Long cc: Wilko Bulte cc: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:45:28 -0000 Wilko Bulte wrote: > > miniboot.iso is still much more useful, as it allows one to install > > I like it better too. But some people argue that not having to write > the ISO on CDR is a good thing(TM). People who load from tape because they don't have Toshiba 3401B SCSI CDROM's, DEC-supplies SCSI CDROM's, or third party CDROM's that support 1K sector reads... 8-). Also, it's easier if you cross-build and then locally attach the drive and dd the image to it, than if you have to cross-build an entire release, burn a coaster, and then load the coaster on the CDROM drive you have to install, only to find out that it's, well, a coaster instead of a good ISO image. 8-) 8-). It's also easier, in my experience, to do the MSDOS disk label that the machine likes to see out there from an x86 box, instead of trying to use Alpha-native tools (YMMV). -- Terry From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 02:25:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE9037B404; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net (bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A724743FAF; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:25:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from user-38lc0sl.dialup.mindspring.com ([209.86.3.149] helo=mindspring.com) by bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19i9gS-0001BA-00; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:25:16 -0700 Message-ID: <3F28E042.9363F072@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:24:18 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ticso@cicely.de References: <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730194829.GQ42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730201109.GA72260@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030731083155.GA97176@cicely12.cicely.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a492476bf7ae013b198bc639d43be11d21350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Scott Long cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:25:32 -0000 Bernd Walter wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 01:33:32PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > On 2003-Jul-30 22:11:09 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > [dd the install image onto a HDD] > > >Well, I have done something like this once by pulling a StorageWorks > > >SBB disk from a machine where I dd-ed an OS ontop of it and then put > > >that disk in another machine to boot it. > > > > I also had to do it to bootstrap my Multia - no floppy drive or CD-ROM > > and the FreeBSD netboot is incompatible with the Multia SRM. > > Must be multia specific - I netbooted a NoName. I can confirm it on my Multia, too. > IIRC have multias pcmcia slots. > Can they boot from flash media? Not that's I've been able to get it to do; it has one slot, but bootability is a firmware thing. -- Terry From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 02:35:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0665F37B417; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9F443FAF; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:35:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6V9Z6aK067403 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:35:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6V9Z2Ax093492 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:35:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6V9Z2NS099640; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:35:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6V9Yx0X099636; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:34:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:34:58 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Terry Lambert Message-ID: <20030731093457.GB97176@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730194829.GQ42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730201109.GA72260@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030731033332.GN430@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <20030731083155.GA97176@cicely12.cicely.de> <3F28E042.9363F072@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F28E042.9363F072@mindspring.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.1-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Scott Long cc: ticso@cicely.de Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:35:23 -0000 On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:24:18AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Bernd Walter wrote: > > IIRC have multias pcmcia slots. > > Can they boot from flash media? > > Not that's I've been able to get it to do; it has one slot, but > bootability is a firmware thing. Did you tried with JEDEC or IDE flash? The interesting one is IDE type flash, because JEDEC is expensive compared to CF+adapter and JEDEC is rather small in capacity. Btw. is the pcmcia slot usable under FreeBSD? -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de ticso@bwct.de info@bwct.de From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 02:43:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7643837B401; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA60D43F3F; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:42:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6V9go0U012773 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:42:50 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h6V9gnA0012767; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:42:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:42:49 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20030731094249.GB8699@sunbay.com> References: <200307211915.h6LJFPJY054212@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030721214042.GA563@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6216.3020006@freebsd.org> <20030721220419.GA909@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6633.5070009@freebsd.org> <20030722070239.GA2687@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729191917.GA66399@sunbay.com> <3F26CBC1.7030704@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5G06lTa6Jq83wMTw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F26CBC1.7030704@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: re@freebsd.org cc: Jake Burkholder cc: Peter Wemm cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: miniboot.iso (was: Re: Floppies for ALPHA) X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:43:10 -0000 --5G06lTa6Jq83wMTw Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Bn2rw/3z4jIqBvZU" Content-Disposition: inline --Bn2rw/3z4jIqBvZU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 01:32:17PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > If there's some interest, I could add the support for generating > > miniboot.iso to release/Makefile. This would be extremely > > useful for other platforms too, including i386. Just let me > > know if there's a strong interest in this. > >=20 > >=20 > > Cheers, >=20 > This idea has intrigued me for a while. Feel free to prototype > something! >=20 OK, the attached (trivial) patch can be used to create the miniboot.iso. Its contents is identical to what goes on the miniinst.iso, except for NOT putting any distributions, docs, and ports. The uncompressed size for i386 is 46M, bzip2(1) compressed size is 16M, which I think many people can afford. (The size of the miniinst.iso image is 231M.) Removing *.ko and kernel.debug from /boot/kernel gives 7M of uncompressed, and 3M of compressed miniboot.iso image. The patch does not remove them currently, adding one line would do it. Anyone has a reason why these should not be removed? One could think that the acpi.ko may be needed for IA64, but it's already part of the GENERIC kernel. The numbers for other arches should be identical, according to these stats: ftp> dir */ISO-IMAGES/5.1/*-miniinst.iso 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for directory listing. -rw-rw-r-- 1 110 root 248053760 Jun 6 23:57 5.1-RELEASE-alpha-m= iniinst.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 110 root 221773824 Jun 8 19:06 5.1-RELEASE-amd64-m= iniinst.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 110 root 249331712 Jun 5 16:49 5.1-RELEASE-i386-mi= niinst.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 110 root 229408768 Jun 7 01:01 5.1-RELEASE-sparc64= -miniinst.iso 226 Transfer complete. Jake, a question for you: can this miniboot.iso image be used on sparc64 like on Alpha (as Wilko demonstrated) instead of the ugly boot.flp image? If so, we could remove the floppy creation code for sparc64 as well. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software Ltd, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --Bn2rw/3z4jIqBvZU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=p Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Index: Makefile =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.808 diff -u -r1.808 Makefile --- Makefile 31 Jul 2003 07:28:58 -0000 1.808 +++ Makefile 31 Jul 2003 09:09:25 -0000 @@ -242,6 +242,7 @@ CD=3D ${_R}/cdrom CD_DISC1=3D ${CD}/disc1 CD_DISC2=3D ${CD}/disc2 +CD_BOOT=3D ${CD}/boot =20 # Where the bootstrap ports (see DOCPORTS) get installed. LOCALDIR=3D /usr/local/bin @@ -837,8 +838,9 @@ # cdrom.1: @echo "Setting up CDROM distribution area" - @mkdir -p ${CD_DISC1} ${CD_DISC2} + @mkdir -p ${CD_DISC1} ${CD_DISC2} ${CD_BOOT} -@ln -s . ${CD_DISC1}/${BUILDNAME} + -@ln -s . ${CD_BOOT}/${BUILDNAME} .if !defined(NO_FLOPPIES) @cd ${RD} && find floppies -print | cpio -dumpl ${CD_DISC1} .endif @@ -855,6 +857,7 @@ @cp ${.CURDIR}/fixit.profile ${CD_DISC2}/.profile @echo "CD_VERSION =3D ${BUILDNAME}" > ${CD_DISC1}/cdrom.inf @echo "CD_VERSION =3D ${BUILDNAME}" > ${CD_DISC2}/cdrom.inf + @echo "CD_VERSION =3D ${BUILDNAME}" > ${CD_BOOT}/cdrom.inf .if !defined(NODOC) @for i in ${DIST_DOCS_ARCH_INDEP}; do \ cp ${RND}/${RELNOTES_LANG}/$$i/article.txt ${CD_DISC1}/`echo $${i} | tr= 'a-z' 'A-Z'`.TXT; \ @@ -878,11 +881,13 @@ @echo 'mfsroot_type=3D"mfs_root"' >> ${CD_DISC2}/boot/loader.conf @echo 'mfsroot_name=3D"/boot/mfsroot"' >> ${CD_DISC2}/boot/loader.conf @cp -Rp ${CD_DISC2}/boot ${CD_DISC1} + @cp -Rp ${CD_DISC1}/boot ${CD_BOOT} .endif .if ${TARGET} =3D=3D "i386" && defined(EMUL_BOOT) && !defined(NO_FLOPPIES) # In case bootable ISO with floppy emulation is desired. - @mkdir -p ${CD_DISC2}/floppies + @mkdir -p ${CD_DISC2}/floppies ${CD_BOOT}/floppies @cp ${CD_DISC1}/floppies/boot.flp ${CD_DISC2}/floppies + @cp ${CD_DISC1}/floppies/boot.flp ${CD_BOOT}/floppies .endif .if !defined(NOPORTS) @mkdir -p ${CD_DISC1}/ports && \ @@ -899,6 +904,9 @@ @sh ${.CURDIR}/${TARGET_ARCH}/mkisoimages.sh ${BOOTABLE} \ fbsd_miniinst \ ${CD}/${BUILDNAME}-${TARGET}-miniinst.iso ${CD_DISC1} + @sh ${.CURDIR}/${TARGET_ARCH}/mkisoimages.sh ${BOOTABLE} \ + fbsd_miniboot \ + ${CD}/${BUILDNAME}-${TARGET}-miniboot.iso ${CD_BOOT} @sh ${.CURDIR}/${TARGET_ARCH}/mkisoimages.sh ${BOOTABLE} \ fbsd_livefs \ ${CD}/${BUILDNAME}-${TARGET}-disc2.iso ${CD_DISC2} --Bn2rw/3z4jIqBvZU-- --5G06lTa6Jq83wMTw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/KOSYUkv4P6juNwoRAjfxAJ9x7n1lPyhEowPMMIBMr8W8VQPoIwCdE9UM wZp2ZryBZSAAhVn+AAcqbe4= =0rVm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5G06lTa6Jq83wMTw-- From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 02:50:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74C437B401; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.BAYAREA.NET [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B545A43FA3; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:50:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.201]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6V9oVwO093910; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:50:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6V9oVF1018267; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:50:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6V9oV2I018266; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:50:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:50:31 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20030731095031.GB18170@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <200307211915.h6LJFPJY054212@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030721214042.GA563@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6216.3020006@freebsd.org> <20030721220419.GA909@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6633.5070009@freebsd.org> <20030722070239.GA2687@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729191917.GA66399@sunbay.com> <3F26CBC1.7030704@freebsd.org> <20030731094249.GB8699@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030731094249.GB8699@sunbay.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: re@freebsd.org cc: Jake Burkholder cc: Peter Wemm cc: Scott Long cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: miniboot.iso (was: Re: Floppies for ALPHA) X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:50:33 -0000 On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:42:49PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > ftp> dir */ISO-IMAGES/5.1/*-miniinst.iso > 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for directory listing. > -rw-rw-r-- 1 110 root 248053760 Jun 6 23:57 5.1-RELEASE-alpha-miniinst.iso > -rw-r--r-- 1 110 root 221773824 Jun 8 19:06 5.1-RELEASE-amd64-miniinst.iso > -rw-rw-r-- 1 110 root 249331712 Jun 5 16:49 5.1-RELEASE-i386-miniinst.iso > -rw-rw-r-- 1 110 root 229408768 Jun 7 01:01 5.1-RELEASE-sparc64-miniinst.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 marcel archive 312737792 Jun 8 16:06 5.1-RELEASE-ia64-miniinst.iso My only concern is that instead of 2 ISOs we would have 3 ISOs of which Joe Average User doesn't know the difference... -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 03:00:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BD737B401; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025E143FA3; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6V9xuCE076124; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:59:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6V9xuub076123; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:59:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:59:56 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: ticso@cicely.de Message-ID: <20030731095956.GB76030@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730194829.GQ42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730201109.GA72260@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030731033332.GN430@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <20030731083155.GA97176@cicely12.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030731083155.GA97176@cicely12.cicely.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Scott Long cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:00:04 -0000 On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:31:55AM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 01:33:32PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > On 2003-Jul-30 22:11:09 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > [dd the install image onto a HDD] > > >Well, I have done something like this once by pulling a StorageWorks > > >SBB disk from a machine where I dd-ed an OS ontop of it and then put > > >that disk in another machine to boot it. > > > > I also had to do it to bootstrap my Multia - no floppy drive or CD-ROM > > and the FreeBSD netboot is incompatible with the Multia SRM. > > Must be multia specific - I netbooted a NoName. SRM issue on Multia. See ftp://ftp.tcja.nl/pub/wilko for the latest SRM that does netboot Multia. > IIRC have multias pcmcia slots. They do. > Can they boot from flash media? Not that I know. > > It's still easier than installing a Sun3 from tape. > > My first FreeBSD installation was done from tape. You're newbie.. I booted my 386BSD0.1 from a huge floppyset, which I obtained via ftpmail.dec.com in 2-zillion seperate emails (I did not have IP connectivity in those days, only UUCP email at work ;-) -- | / o / /_ _ FreeBSD core team secretary |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 05:49:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51E537B401 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 301F743FAF for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:49:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jaknlak@sbcglobal.net) Received: from adsl-65-64-26-186.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net (HELO sbcglobal.net) (jaknlak@sbcglobal.net@65.64.26.186 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 12:49:11 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:49:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Jeremy Kemp To: alpha@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030731093457.GB97176@cicely12.cicely.de> Message-Id: <61F398FE-C355-11D7-89ED-0003930506C8@sbcglobal.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:49:13 -0000 > Btw. is the pcmcia slot usable under FreeBSD? New Features: "Cardbus: Support for Cardbus devices. " So, yes. :-) From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 05:50:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5AF37B401 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C3A43FB1 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:50:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6VCofCE076937; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:50:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6VCoe4o076936; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:50:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:50:40 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jeremy Kemp Message-ID: <20030731125040.GI76751@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030731093457.GB97176@cicely12.cicely.de> <61F398FE-C355-11D7-89ED-0003930506C8@sbcglobal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <61F398FE-C355-11D7-89ED-0003930506C8@sbcglobal.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:50:43 -0000 On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 07:49:11AM -0500, Jeremy Kemp wrote: > >Btw. is the pcmcia slot usable under FreeBSD? > > New Features: > "Cardbus: Support for Cardbus devices. " > > So, yes. :-) Bloody optimist.. :) -- | / o / /_ _ wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 08:09:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD5137B401 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55E043FB1 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:09:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6VF99aK071761 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:09:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6VF98Ax095155 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:09:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6VF97NS001166; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:09:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6VF95Tj001165; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:09:05 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:09:05 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Jeremy Kemp Message-ID: <20030731150905.GK97176@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20030731093457.GB97176@cicely12.cicely.de> <61F398FE-C355-11D7-89ED-0003930506C8@sbcglobal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <61F398FE-C355-11D7-89ED-0003930506C8@sbcglobal.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.1-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 15:09:19 -0000 On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 07:49:11AM -0500, Jeremy Kemp wrote: > >Btw. is the pcmcia slot usable under FreeBSD? > > New Features: > "Cardbus: Support for Cardbus devices. " Is the slot on Multia really cardbus (32bit)0? I doubt that the slot on Multias is a cardbus (32bit) slot - they are to old for that. pcmcia (16bit) support for i386 exits since years, but I don't know how it is on alpha - even on i386 there were troubles with additional pcmcia bridges. > So, yes. :-) Even if cardbus runs - handling 16bit cards is still a different story. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de ticso@bwct.de info@bwct.de From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 09:27:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48AD237B40A for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail16.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DE143FDF for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:27:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 6832 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 16:27:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 31 Jul 2003 16:27:28 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6VGRPGI071552; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:27:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20030731095031.GB18170@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:27:45 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Marcel Moolenaar cc: re@freebsd.org cc: Peter Wemm cc: Jake Burkholder cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Scott Long cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: miniboot.iso (was: Re: Floppies for ALPHA) X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:27:38 -0000 On 31-Jul-2003 Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:42:49PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: >> ftp> dir */ISO-IMAGES/5.1/*-miniinst.iso >> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for directory listing. >> -rw-rw-r-- 1 110 root 248053760 Jun 6 23:57 5.1-RELEASE-alpha-miniinst.iso >> -rw-r--r-- 1 110 root 221773824 Jun 8 19:06 5.1-RELEASE-amd64-miniinst.iso >> -rw-rw-r-- 1 110 root 249331712 Jun 5 16:49 5.1-RELEASE-i386-miniinst.iso >> -rw-rw-r-- 1 110 root 229408768 Jun 7 01:01 5.1-RELEASE-sparc64-miniinst.iso > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 marcel archive 312737792 Jun 8 16:06 5.1-RELEASE-ia64-miniinst.iso > > My only concern is that instead of 2 ISOs we would have 3 ISOs > of which Joe Average User doesn't know the difference... It would probaly be called bootonly.iso or some such. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 10:59:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB6B37B41B for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail9.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997D743FCB for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:59:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 9806 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 17:59:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 31 Jul 2003 17:59:33 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6VHxUGI071808; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:59:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20030731094249.GB8699@sunbay.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:59:50 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Ruslan Ermilov cc: re@freebsd.org cc: Peter Wemm cc: Jake Burkholder cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Scott Long cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: RE: miniboot.iso (was: Re: Floppies for ALPHA) X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:59:38 -0000 On 31-Jul-2003 Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 01:32:17PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: >> Ruslan Ermilov wrote: >> > If there's some interest, I could add the support for generating >> > miniboot.iso to release/Makefile. This would be extremely >> > useful for other platforms too, including i386. Just let me >> > know if there's a strong interest in this. >> > >> > >> > Cheers, >> >> This idea has intrigued me for a while. Feel free to prototype >> something! >> > OK, the attached (trivial) patch can be used to create the > miniboot.iso. Its contents is identical to what goes on the > miniinst.iso, except for NOT putting any distributions, docs, > and ports. Couple of comments (gee this looks exactly like my patch that does this. :)) - you don't need the symlink for the release name on the boot CD - call it bootonly.iso instead of miniboot.iso, but I think we've already agreed on this. - PC98 doesn't need this ISO image since it can't boot from CD. Hence the extra CD_BOOT related ifdef's in the patch I sent you. > Removing *.ko and kernel.debug from /boot/kernel gives 7M of > uncompressed, and 3M of compressed miniboot.iso image. The > patch does not remove them currently, adding one line would > do it. Anyone has a reason why these should not be removed? > One could think that the acpi.ko may be needed for IA64, but > it's already part of the GENERIC kernel. The kernel.debug is a feature of GENERIC having 'DEBUG=-g' in it. For releases, we turn that off, in which case the kernel.debug will automatically disappear. I would leave the modules around since not all modules are in GENERIC on all archs. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 19:14:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97BFE37B401 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atom.no-ip.org (203-79-124-38.adsl.paradise.net.nz [203.79.124.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6D643FD7 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:14:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from atom@atom.no-ip.org) Received: from webdesign2 smtp.colorite.com.au (authenticated user atom@atom.no-ip.org) by atom.no-ip.org (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.4.R) with ESMTP id 11-md50000000007.tmp for ; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 14:12:36 +1200 Message-ID: <002301c357d2$7881d870$1f00a8c0@colorite.co.nz> From: "Anthony O'Meara" To: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 14:13:13 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Authenticated-Sender: atom@atom.no-ip.org X-Spam-Processed: atom.no-ip.org, Fri, 01 Aug 2003 14:12:36 +1200 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-Return-Path: atom@atom.no-ip.org X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: RAID controller problem on Digital Server 5305 X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 02:14:05 -0000 Hi, I have a DIGITAL Server 5305 (AKA AlphaServer 1200) with a Mylex DAC960 Raid controller, every time I try and install FreeBSD 4.8 on it comes up with an error, mlx0: I/O error - attempt to write beyond end of drive. I have tried to install FreeBSD 5.0 and 5.1 but there appears to be no drivers for the controller included in the setup disks (kern and mfsroot), I appears there are drivers in the drivers.flp but I have no idea how to load them into the system. I have tried using Raid 5 and also no raid (each disk is independent), Still no lucky. Can some please explain how to get round these problems. Thanks, Anthony. From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 22:11:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B380E37B401; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 22:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532F343FCB; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 22:11:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h715BBo6039935; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 01:11:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h715BBH2039934; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 01:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 01:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200308010511.h715BBH2039934@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: current@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 05:11:15 -0000 TB --- 2003-08-01 04:00:06 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2003-08-01 04:00:06 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-08-01 04:02:41 - building world TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/i386/usr/include >>> stage 4: building libraries >>> stage 4: make dependencies >>> stage 4: building everything.. TB --- 2003-08-01 05:08:35 - building generic kernel TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC >>> Kernel build for GENERIC started on Fri Aug 1 05:08:35 GMT 2003 [...] cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwdev.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwdma.c cc -c -O -pipe 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-I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwohci_pci.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/if_fwe.c /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/if_fwe.c: In function `fwe_init': /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/if_fwe.c:285: warning: `xferq' might be used uninitialized in this function *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/GENERIC. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. TB --- 2003-08-01 05:11:11 - /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2003-08-01 05:11:11 - ERROR: failed to build generic kernel TB --- 2003-08-01 05:11:11 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 1 07:08:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9821D37B415 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail7.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D9543FCB for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:08:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adam@blacktabby.org) Received: (qmail 13468 invoked by uid 64014); 1 Aug 2003 14:08:30 -0000 Received: from adam@blacktabby.org by mail7.speakeasy.net with AmikaGuardian-Server-2.0.0 (Processed in 0.715096 secs); 01 Aug 2003 14:08:30 -0000 X-AmikaGuardian-Id: mail7.speakeasy.net105974690923613461 X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Vectored : 2.3 X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Forwarded Mail : 2.3 X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Override : 2.3 X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Exception : 2.3 X-AmikaGuardian-Action: Do Nothing() Received: from unknown (HELO cheshire.blacktabby.org) (akranzel@[67.74.32.225]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Aug 2003 14:08:29 -0000 From: Adam Kranzel To: "Anthony O'Meara" , Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:08:08 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <002301c357d2$7881d870$1f00a8c0@colorite.co.nz> In-Reply-To: <002301c357d2$7881d870$1f00a8c0@colorite.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308010708.09281.adam@blacktabby.org> Subject: Re: RAID controller problem on Digital Server 5305 X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 14:08:31 -0000 On Thursday 31 July 2003 19:13, Anthony O'Meara wrote: > Hi, > > I have a DIGITAL Server 5305 (AKA AlphaServer 1200) with a Mylex DAC960 > Raid controller, every time I try and install FreeBSD 4.8 on it comes up > with an error, mlx0: I/O error - attempt to write beyond end of drive. > > I have tried to install FreeBSD 5.0 and 5.1 but there appears to be no > drivers for the controller included in the setup disks (kern and mfsroot), > I appears there are drivers in the drivers.flp but I have no idea how to > load them into the system. > > I have tried using Raid 5 and also no raid (each disk is independent), > Still no lucky. > > Can some please explain how to get round these problems. > > Thanks, > Anthony. > FreeBSD 4.8 will *not* work on the machine, to the best of my knowledge. It doesn't properly support multiple hoses (I/O busses). FreeBSD 5.0 and later will work fine, IME. You need to choose the option to load additional modules from Sysinstall, and then load the 'mlx' module. I'll try to find my notes on what I did to get the one I had working. -Adam From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 1 10:11:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17C637B401; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 10:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39C043FBD; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 10:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h71HB4o6052797; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 13:11:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h71HB3w3052796; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 13:11:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 13:11:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200308011711.h71HB3w3052796@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: current@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 17:11:06 -0000 TB --- 2003-08-01 16:00:06 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2003-08-01 16:00:06 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-08-01 16:02:33 - building world TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/i386/usr/include >>> stage 4: building libraries >>> stage 4: make dependencies >>> stage 4: building everything.. TB --- 2003-08-01 17:08:28 - building generic kernel TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC >>> Kernel build for GENERIC started on Fri Aug 1 17:08:28 GMT 2003 [...] cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwdev.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwdma.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwmem.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwohci.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwohci_pci.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/if_fwe.c /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/if_fwe.c: In function `fwe_init': /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/if_fwe.c:285: warning: `xferq' might be used uninitialized in this function *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/GENERIC. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. TB --- 2003-08-01 17:11:03 - /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2003-08-01 17:11:03 - ERROR: failed to build generic kernel TB --- 2003-08-01 17:11:03 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 1 22:11:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A35B37B401; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 22:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A55443F93; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 22:11:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h725Bbo6094286; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 01:11:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h725BbCd094285; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 01:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 01:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200308020511.h725BbCd094285@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: current@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 05:11:39 -0000 TB --- 2003-08-02 04:00:07 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2003-08-02 04:00:07 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-08-02 04:02:37 - building world TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/i386/usr/include >>> stage 4: building libraries >>> stage 4: make dependencies >>> stage 4: building everything.. TB --- 2003-08-02 05:09:00 - building generic kernel TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC >>> Kernel build for GENERIC started on Sat Aug 2 05:09:00 GMT 2003 [...] cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwdev.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwdma.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwmem.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwohci.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwohci_pci.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/if_fwe.c /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/if_fwe.c: In function `fwe_init': /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/if_fwe.c:285: warning: `xferq' might be used uninitialized in this function *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/GENERIC. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. TB --- 2003-08-02 05:11:37 - /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2003-08-02 05:11:37 - ERROR: failed to build generic kernel TB --- 2003-08-02 05:11:37 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 1 23:47:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C9A37B404 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 23:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mho.com (smtp.mho.net [64.58.4.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C69C843F85 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 23:47:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: (qmail 24176 invoked by uid 1002); 2 Aug 2003 06:47:36 -0000 Received: from adsl-64-58-12-196.mho.net (HELO freebsd.org) (64.58.12.196) by smtp.mho.net with SMTP; 2 Aug 2003 06:47:36 -0000 Message-ID: <3F2B5E91.8050603@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 00:47:45 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: simokawa@freebsd.org References: <200308020511.h725BbCd094285@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200308020511.h725BbCd094285@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [current tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 06:47:42 -0000 Is anyone willing to fix this? The warning is bogus as it's quite obvious that the variable is being initialized. Strange that it doesn't show up on other platforms. Scott Tinderbox wrote: > TB --- 2003-08-02 04:00:07 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for alpha/alpha > TB --- 2003-08-02 04:00:07 - checking out the source tree > TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha > TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src > TB --- 2003-08-02 04:02:37 - building world > TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src > TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld > >>>>Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>>>stage 1: legacy release compatibility shims >>>>stage 1: bootstrap tools >>>>stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>>>stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>>>stage 2: build tools >>>>stage 3: cross tools >>>>stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/i386/usr/include >>>>stage 4: building libraries >>>>stage 4: make dependencies >>>>stage 4: building everything.. > > TB --- 2003-08-02 05:09:00 - building generic kernel > TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src > TB --- /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC > >>>>Kernel build for GENERIC started on Sat Aug 2 05:09:00 GMT 2003 > > [...] > cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwdev.c > cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwdma.c > cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwmem.c > cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwohci.c > cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwohci_pci.c > cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/if_fwe.c > /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/if_fwe.c: In function `fwe_init': > /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/if_fwe.c:285: warning: `xferq' might be used uninitialized in this function > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/GENERIC. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. > TB --- 2003-08-02 05:11:37 - /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 > TB --- 2003-08-02 05:11:37 - ERROR: failed to build generic kernel > TB --- 2003-08-02 05:11:37 - tinderbox aborted > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 2 00:04:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3301437B401; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 00:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from is1.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (is1.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.205.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12CE43F3F; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 00:04:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from is1.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (is1.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by is1.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8932183C4; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 16:04:02 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailhosting.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (IDENT:mirapoint@mailhosting.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.205.3]) h72742IJ032668; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 16:04:02 +0900 Received: from ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.135.3])3.3.5-GR) with ESMTP id AJO15238; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 16:04:01 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 16:04:01 +0900 Message-ID: From: Hidetoshi Shimokawa To: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <3F2B5E91.8050603@freebsd.org> References: <200308020511.h725BbCd094285@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> <3F2B5E91.8050603@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.11.0 (Wonderwall) REMI/1.14.3 (Matsudai) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 MULE XEmacs/21.4 (patch 8) (Honest Recruiter) (i386--freebsd) X-Face: OE([KxWyJI0r[R~S/>7ia}SJ)i%a,$-9%7{*yihQk|]gl}2p#"oXmX/fT}Bn7: #j7i14gu$jgR\S*&C3R/pJX List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 07:04:07 -0000 At Sat, 02 Aug 2003 00:47:45 -0600, Scott Long wrote: > > Is anyone willing to fix this? The warning is bogus as it's quite > obvious that the variable is being initialized. Strange that it doesn't > show up on other platforms. > > Scott I have already committed a workaround for this. /\ Hidetoshi Shimokawa \/ simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp PGP public key: http://www.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~simokawa/pgp.html From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 2 10:11:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D5C37B401; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 10:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91ADC43F93; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 10:11:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h72HBMo6042592; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 13:11:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h72HBMal042591; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 13:11:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 13:11:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200308021711.h72HBMal042591@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: current@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 17:11:24 -0000 TB --- 2003-08-02 16:00:07 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2003-08-02 16:00:07 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-08-02 16:02:22 - building world TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/i386/usr/include >>> stage 4: building libraries >>> stage 4: make dependencies >>> stage 4: building everything.. TB --- 2003-08-02 17:08:46 - building generic kernel TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC >>> Kernel build for GENERIC started on Sat Aug 2 17:08:46 GMT 2003 [...] cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwdev.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwdma.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwmem.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwohci.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwohci_pci.c cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mtune=ev5 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/if_fwe.c /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/if_fwe.c: In function `fwe_init': /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/dev/firewire/if_fwe.c:285: warning: `xferq' might be used uninitialized in this function *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src/sys/GENERIC. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha/src. TB --- 2003-08-02 17:11:22 - /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2003-08-02 17:11:22 - ERROR: failed to build generic kernel TB --- 2003-08-02 17:11:22 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 2 18:36:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F1B37B401; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D119F43F3F; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:36:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h731aSQX016257; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:36:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h731aSUI016256; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:36:27 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Wilko Bulte Message-ID: <20030803013627.GA98015@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730194829.GQ42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730201109.GA72260@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730205620.GB33188@sunbay.com> <20030730222336.GB73438@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030730222336.GB73438@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 01:36:38 -0000 On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:23:36AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Well... if need be. But read the mail on my experiment with a dd of the > miniinst.iso onto a harddisk. This is more or less what I've been talking about. 5.1-RELEASE-alpha-miniinst.iso is 236M, which is way too big. If you take a 4.x boot.flp, you should also be able to dd that onto a SCSI disk and boot it. So what we need is an image that conatains only a minimal memory filesystem /, a full GENERIC kernel, and full set of modules. This image will come in under 8MB. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 2 18:38:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA39F37B404 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D075843F93 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:38:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h731c6QX016271 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h731c6PI016270 for alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:38:06 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: alpha@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030803013806.GB98015@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , alpha@freebsd.org References: <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730194829.GQ42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730201109.GA72260@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030731033332.GN430@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <20030731083155.GA97176@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030731095956.GB76030@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030731095956.GB76030@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: alpha@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 01:38:09 -0000 On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 11:59:56AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:31:55AM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 01:33:32PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > > On 2003-Jul-30 22:11:09 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > [dd the install image onto a HDD] > > > >Well, I have done something like this once by pulling a StorageWorks > > > >SBB disk from a machine where I dd-ed an OS ontop of it and then put > > > >that disk in another machine to boot it. > > > > > > I also had to do it to bootstrap my Multia - no floppy drive or CD-ROM > > > and the FreeBSD netboot is incompatible with the Multia SRM. > > > > Must be multia specific - I netbooted a NoName. > > SRM issue on Multia. See ftp://ftp.tcja.nl/pub/wilko for the latest SRM > that does netboot Multia. Multia's are crap that should be thrown in the trash. Heck I can't even give away Miata's. The next person that tries to download multia firmware should instead send their shipping address. From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 2 18:40:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5BD37B401; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377AD43F3F; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:40:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h731eYQX016305; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:40:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h731eYtN016304; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:40:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:40:34 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20030803014034.GC98015@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Ruslan Ermilov , Wilko Bulte , re@FreeBSD.org, alpha@FreeBSD.org, Scott Long References: <200307211915.h6LJFPJY054212@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030721214042.GA563@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6216.3020006@freebsd.org> <20030721220419.GA909@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6633.5070009@freebsd.org> <20030722070239.GA2687@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729191917.GA66399@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030729191917.GA66399@sunbay.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org cc: Scott Long cc: re@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 01:40:47 -0000 On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 10:19:17PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > If there's some interest, I could add the support for generating > miniboot.iso to release/Makefile. This requires mkisofs, etc. to produce. I think all you really need to do is make a .flp image and it would work as well. AFAIK, one cannot mount an ISO image and edit it as you can a .flp image, which could be useful. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 2 18:46:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E6D37B401; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BAD43FAF; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:46:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h731klQX016363; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:46:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h731kl00016362; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:46:47 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20030803014647.GD98015@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Ruslan Ermilov , Scott Long , re@freebsd.org, Jake Burkholder , Peter Wemm , alpha@freebsd.org, Wilko Bulte References: <200307211915.h6LJFPJY054212@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030721214042.GA563@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6216.3020006@freebsd.org> <20030721220419.GA909@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6633.5070009@freebsd.org> <20030722070239.GA2687@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729191917.GA66399@sunbay.com> <3F26CBC1.7030704@freebsd.org> <20030731094249.GB8699@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030731094249.GB8699@sunbay.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: re@freebsd.org cc: Jake Burkholder cc: Peter Wemm cc: Scott Long cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: miniboot.iso (was: Re: Floppies for ALPHA) X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 01:46:49 -0000 On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:42:49PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > OK, the attached (trivial) patch can be used to create the > miniboot.iso. Its contents is identical to what goes on the > miniinst.iso, except for NOT putting any distributions, docs, > and ports. > > The uncompressed size for i386 is 46M, bzip2(1) compressed size > is 16M, which I think many people can afford. (The size of the What in the world is on this thing to be 46MB?!?!?!? All 3 .flp's added together aren't this large. > Jake, a question for you: can this miniboot.iso image be used on > sparc64 like on Alpha (as Wilko demonstrated) instead of the ugly > boot.flp image? Why is making boot.flp "ugly"?? From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 2 19:15:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5999837B404 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 19:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mho.com (smtp.mho.net [64.58.4.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C5E343FE1 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 19:15:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: (qmail 49376 invoked by uid 1002); 3 Aug 2003 02:15:41 -0000 Received: from adsl-64-58-12-196.mho.net (HELO freebsd.org) (64.58.12.196) by smtp.mho.net with SMTP; 3 Aug 2003 02:15:41 -0000 Message-ID: <3F2C704A.6000004@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 20:15:38 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <200307211915.h6LJFPJY054212@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030721214042.GA563@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6216.3020006@freebsd.org> <20030721220419.GA909@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6633.5070009@freebsd.org> <20030722070239.GA2687@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729191917.GA66399@sunbay.com> <3F26CBC1.7030704@freebsd.org> <20030731094249.GB8699@sunbay.com> <20030803014647.GD98015@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <20030803014647.GD98015@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: re@freebsd.org cc: Jake Burkholder cc: Peter Wemm cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: miniboot.iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 02:15:46 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:42:49PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > >>OK, the attached (trivial) patch can be used to create the >>miniboot.iso. Its contents is identical to what goes on the >>miniinst.iso, except for NOT putting any distributions, docs, >>and ports. >> >>The uncompressed size for i386 is 46M, bzip2(1) compressed size >>is 16M, which I think many people can afford. (The size of the > > > What in the world is on this thing to be 46MB?!?!?!? All 3 .flp's added > together aren't this large. > > > >>Jake, a question for you: can this miniboot.iso image be used on >>sparc64 like on Alpha (as Wilko demonstrated) instead of the ugly >>boot.flp image? > > > Why is making boot.flp "ugly"?? > > It looks like the kernel and kmods are being built with '-g'. When I 'strip -x' /boot/kernel, it shinks from 47MB to 21MB. Taking out kernel.debug drops another 5MB. Can anyone say why we build the release bits with '-g'? I'd sure like to save that extra space on the mini-iso, and have that extra space for packages on the full ISO. Scott From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 2 19:22:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBCE37B401 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 19:22:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta03.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915F343FBF for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 19:22:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbyrnes@ozemail.com.au) Received: from pootah.ozemail.com.au ([63.34.226.177]) by mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au with ESMTP <20030803022211.EIAQ11656.mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au@pootah.ozemail.com.au> for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2003 12:22:11 +1000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20030803121740.0261ed90@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: pop.ozemail.com.au/110/rbyrnes@127.0.0.1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 12:19:23 +1000 To: alpha@freebsd.org From: Rob B In-Reply-To: <20030803013806.GB98015@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030731095956.GB76030@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730194829.GQ42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730201109.GA72260@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030731033332.GN430@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <20030731083155.GA97176@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030731095956.GB76030@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 02:22:16 -0000 At 11:38 AM 3/08/03, David O'Brien sent this up the stick: >Multia's are crap that should be thrown in the trash. Heck I can't even >give away Miata's. The next person that tries to download multia >firmware should instead send their shipping address. Gee, if you're throwing them out, I'll have a(nother) Miata Care to send it to Australia? ;) Cheers, Rob -- "Beware... The paranoids are watching you!" - Principia Discordia This is random quote 11 of 1254. Distance from the centre of the brewing universe [15200.8 km (8207.8 mi), 262.8 deg](Apparent) Rennerian Public Key fingerprint = 6219 33BD A37B 368D 29F5 19FB 945D C4D7 1F66 D9C5 From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 2 20:25:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFBE37B404 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 20:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CE843F75 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 20:25:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h733PuQX016845; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 20:25:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h733PuqK016844; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 20:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 20:25:56 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Rob B Message-ID: <20030803032556.GE98015@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Rob B , alpha@freebsd.org References: <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730194829.GQ42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730201109.GA72260@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030731033332.GN430@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <20030731083155.GA97176@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030731095956.GB76030@freebie.xs4all.nl> <5.2.1.1.2.20030803121740.0261ed90@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20030803121740.0261ed90@127.0.0.1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 03:25:59 -0000 On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 12:19:23PM +1000, Rob B wrote: > At 11:38 AM 3/08/03, David O'Brien sent this up the stick: > >Multia's are crap that should be thrown in the trash. Heck I can't even > >give away Miata's. The next person that tries to download multia > >firmware should instead send their shipping address. > > Gee, if you're throwing them out, I'll have a(nother) Miata > > Care to send it to Australia? ;) Yeah, I guess I should have said w/in USA, or can pick up in USA. :-/ From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 2 21:35:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85EC537B401 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 21:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail13.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6810943FBD for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 21:35:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 6251 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2003 04:35:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 3 Aug 2003 04:35:23 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (laptop.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.4]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h734ZL9s011001; Sun, 3 Aug 2003 00:35:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20030803014647.GD98015@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 00:35:42 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: "David O'Brien" cc: re@freebsd.org cc: Peter Wemm cc: Jake Burkholder cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Scott Long cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: miniboot.iso (was: Re: Floppies for ALPHA) X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 04:35:29 -0000 On 03-Aug-2003 David O'Brien wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:42:49PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: >> OK, the attached (trivial) patch can be used to create the >> miniboot.iso. Its contents is identical to what goes on the >> miniinst.iso, except for NOT putting any distributions, docs, >> and ports. >> >> The uncompressed size for i386 is 46M, bzip2(1) compressed size >> is 16M, which I think many people can afford. (The size of the > > What in the world is on this thing to be 46MB?!?!?!? All 3 .flp's added > together aren't this large. It has GENERIC plus modules plus kernel.debug for CURRENT snapshots, not BOOTMFS. >> Jake, a question for you: can this miniboot.iso image be used on >> sparc64 like on Alpha (as Wilko demonstrated) instead of the ugly >> boot.flp image? > > Why is making boot.flp "ugly"?? Because it uses a stripped down kernel with less support, and why go through all the heartache to limit it's size when you can just use a stock generic kernel? T DAVID PLZ 2 B RELAX K PLZ THX -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 2 21:36:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F0837B409 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 21:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail7.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1997F43FDF for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 21:36:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 7667 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2003 04:36:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 3 Aug 2003 04:36:06 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (laptop.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.4]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h734a49s011011; Sun, 3 Aug 2003 00:36:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3F2C704A.6000004@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 00:36:25 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Scott Long cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Peter Wemm cc: Jake Burkholder cc: re@freebsd.org cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: miniboot.iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 04:36:12 -0000 On 03-Aug-2003 Scott Long wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:42:49PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: >> >>>OK, the attached (trivial) patch can be used to create the >>>miniboot.iso. Its contents is identical to what goes on the >>>miniinst.iso, except for NOT putting any distributions, docs, >>>and ports. >>> >>>The uncompressed size for i386 is 46M, bzip2(1) compressed size >>>is 16M, which I think many people can afford. (The size of the >> >> >> What in the world is on this thing to be 46MB?!?!?!? All 3 .flp's added >> together aren't this large. >> >> >> >>>Jake, a question for you: can this miniboot.iso image be used on >>>sparc64 like on Alpha (as Wilko demonstrated) instead of the ugly >>>boot.flp image? >> >> >> Why is making boot.flp "ugly"?? >> >> > > It looks like the kernel and kmods are being built with '-g'. When I > 'strip -x' /boot/kernel, it shinks from 47MB to 21MB. Taking out > kernel.debug drops another 5MB. Can anyone say why we build the release > bits with '-g'? I'd sure like to save that extra space on the mini-iso, > and have that extra space for packages on the full ISO. We only do this for CURRENT snapshots, not for releases. For releases we comment out the 'makeoptions DEBUG=-g' line in GENERIC and then all the debug stuff automatically goes away. However, for CURRENT snaps, if the kernel panics on boot, you already have a matching kernel.debug to debug with. We discussed this many moons ago. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/