From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 01:10:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E534037B401 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 01:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from loops.nilpotent.org (loops.nilpotent.org [12.17.163.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE45343F85 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 01:10:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fn@hungry.org) Received: (qmail 99236 invoked from network); 17 Aug 2003 08:10:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (root@203.215.182.49) by loops.nilpotent.org with QMTP; 17 Aug 2003 08:10:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 630 invoked by uid 500); 17 Aug 2003 07:31:23 -0000 To: chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030816135324.W570@hub.org> (The Hermit Hacker's message of "Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:54:12 -0300 (ADT)") X-nil: X-Useless-info: System load is 0.70 with 75 processes active. X-Neuromancer: Molly was gone when he took the erodes off, and the loft was dark. References: <20030816135324.W570@hub.org> From: Faried Nawaz Organization: Integral Domains Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 12:31:23 +0500 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (cassava, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: lists <-> news X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 08:10:57 -0000 The Hermit Hacker writes: the mailing.* hierarchy appears to be one of the better ones ... the only beef I have with them is that they don't seem to honor the Message-ID from the original list, which makes it very difficult to setup any redundancy ... Someone else pointed out that hierarchy to me, too. Unfortunately, my newsfeed doesn't carry it. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 06:16:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9018937B401 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 06:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apotheosis.cs.uct.ac.za (apotheosis.cs.uct.ac.za [137.158.128.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E1543FA3 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 06:16:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwest@uct.ac.za) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 15:18:43 +0200 From: Matthew West To: Faried Nawaz Message-ID: <20030817151843.A85199@apotheosis.org.za> References: <20030816135324.W570@hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from "Faried Nawaz" on Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 12:31:23PM cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lists <-> news X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 13:16:13 -0000 On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 12:31:23PM +0500, Faried Nawaz wrote: > Someone else pointed out that hierarchy to me, too. Unfortunately, > my newsfeed doesn't carry it. Take a look at: http://gmane.org/ They provide a very nice mail<->news system, which currently does carry the FreeBSD mailing lists (gmane.os.freebsd.*). If your local news server doesn't carry their heirarchy, you can always just connect directly to news.gmane.org. I currently use nntpcache to access both news.gmane and my local news server. -- mwest@uct.ac.za From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 13:44:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D71A37B401 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 13:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2FF43F75 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 13:44:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from earl.sasknow.net (earl.sasknow.net [207.195.92.130]) by ren.sasknow.com (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h7HKibGo065812 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:44:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from ren (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by earl.sasknow.net (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h7HKiURD094029 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:44:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:44:37 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030817143359.F52471-100000@ren.sasknow.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Audit: Email processed by earl.sasknow.com filter X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.31 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: Power supply advice needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:44:39 -0000 Hi all, This isn't FreeBSD related, except that I want to deploy a dozen or so of these servers with guess-which-OS. :-) For a reasonably equipped IDE RAID server, I went with the S845WD1-E Intel server board (single P4, dual channel on-board RAID1), and chose the Enlight EN-89810SX3 2U chassis. Only after building the thing do I realize that these Enlight cases have a standard ATX power supply (20-pin main power, 4-pin secondary), but the server board needs a ATX12V or EPS12V power supply. After contacting the (large) hardware supplier we bought the components from, and contacting several local retail computer/networking shops, no one seems to have any answers. Google wasn't even much help... except in confirming that these things are apparently not very well known. :-) I haven't yet tried to contact Intel directly. Any idea where I can find a power supply that will work with this board, in a 2U form factor? Or would I be better off sending the Intel board back to supplier from whence it came? :-) - Ryan -- Ryan Thompson SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com 901-1st Avenue North - Saskatoon, SK - S7K 1Y4 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-244-7037 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 20:21:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8091B37B401 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-107-97.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.107.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E939843F3F for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:21:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A8366D7A for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 618B3A3E; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:21:40 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: chat@freeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030818032140.GA69851@rot13.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Seen on IRC... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 03:21:41 -0000 --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline http://www.topfx.com/cgi-bin/mixmaster.cgi?layouturl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freebsd.org&contenturl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.microsoft.com Kris --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/QEZEWry0BWjoQKURAvxXAKDUH9PuDDyaMCbnzWIi8XGO10QHbACgw4LB 6Jze3Fbe1onIVfY4WSEcdWc= =uXWl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 01:39:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B1237B401 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qubix.ca (d57-114-109.home.cgocable.net [24.57.114.109]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEBA43F75 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:39:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mo@qubix.ca) Received: by qubix.ca (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 53BD5450FC; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 04:39:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 04:39:46 -0400 From: Mo To: chat@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030818083946.GA77069@qubix.ca> References: <20030818032140.GA69851@rot13.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030818032140.GA69851@rot13.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: Seen on IRC... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:39:47 -0000 I got a real kick out of that. Probably moreso than others because I had a window open with freebsd.org and I clicked this link which opened a new window and when I read the page, I was expecting the regular FreeBSD.org main page content, but instead saw this and freaked out....hehe Thanks for the cool link On Sunday, 17 August 2003 at 20:21:40 -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > http://www.topfx.com/cgi-bin/mixmaster.cgi?layouturl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freebsd.org&contenturl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.microsoft.com > > Kris From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 06:50:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B960537B425 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 06:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta5.adelphia.net (mta5.mail.adelphia.net [64.8.50.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04BC44033 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 05:50:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com ([24.53.179.151]) by mta5.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.32 201-253-122-126-132-20030307) with ESMTP id <20030818125012.EVYU1357.mta5.adelphia.net@potentialtech.com>; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:50:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3F40CB81.2050000@potentialtech.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:50:09 -0400 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030429 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <20030818032140.GA69851@rot13.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20030818032140.GA69851@rot13.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: chat@freeBSD.org Subject: Re: Seen on IRC... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:50:08 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > http://www.topfx.com/cgi-bin/mixmaster.cgi?layouturl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freebsd.org&contenturl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.microsoft.com That's almost as evil as men who dress up as women and look good doing it! -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 11:33:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F345A37B401 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2D343F85 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:33:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7IIXsrO048538 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:33:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost)h7IIXsqD048535 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:33:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:33:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: chat@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Bored last night.. (aatv for FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 18:33:54 -0000 The results are tragic: http://www.watson.org/~robert/aatv/ After writing this, I found out there's already an aatv for Linux (http://n00n.free.fr/aatv/), which is probably much more capable than my version, but runs on Linux. :-) My setup is simply a bktr device with an SVideo/RCA camera hooked up, and it appears to work fairly well. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects robert@fledge.watson.org Network Associates Laboratories From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 15:23:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C2637B401 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seattlefenix.net (seattlefenix.net [216.231.34.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97D843F75 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:23:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roo@seattlefenix.net) Received: by seattlefenix.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F088DB202; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:16:03 -0700 From: Benjamin Krueger To: Brett Glass Message-ID: <20030818221603.GE10276@surreal.seattlefenix.net> References: <200308140525.XAA02934@lariat.org> <200308140525.XAA02934@lariat.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20030814124234.02a08540@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20030814124234.02a08540@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i cc: freebsd-crap@FreeBSD.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: All "GNU" software potentially Trojaned X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Benjamin Krueger List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:23:45 -0000 * Brett Glass (brett@lariat.org) [030814 11:38]: > At 01:43 AM 8/14/2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > >On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 11:25:04PM -0600, Brett Glass wrote: > >> CERT Advisory CA-2003-21 GNU Project FTP Server Compromise > > > >This never would have happened if they had used the BSDL! > > Not true, of course. But on the other hand, the fact that FreeBSD > uses their code means that it may have integrated Trojaned source. > Another reason to avoid using code from a group that's not only > unethical and malicious but also careless about security. > > Kris, as a member of FreeBSD's security team I hope you're checking > to make sure that Trojaned code was not included. (The most effective > way would, of course, be to remove the GNU code from FreeBSD, but while > I'd like to see that done it's probably too much to hope for.) > > --Brett Glass Now Brett, just because you have a bug up your butt about the GPL doesn't mean you get the right to libel the folks who take care of it. -- Benjamin Krueger From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 16:03:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B11F37B401 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A01043F85 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:03:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20311; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 17:01:12 -0600 (MDT) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20030818170034.029e81c0@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 17:01:04 -0600 To: Benjamin Krueger From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <20030818221603.GE10276@surreal.seattlefenix.net> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20030814124234.02a08540@localhost> <200308140525.XAA02934@lariat.org> <200308140525.XAA02934@lariat.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20030814124234.02a08540@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" cc: freebsd-crap@FreeBSD.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: All "GNU" software potentially Trojaned X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 23:03:20 -0000 At 04:16 PM 8/18/2003, Benjamin Krueger wrote: >Now Brett, just because you have a bug up your butt about the GPL doesn't >mean you get the right to libel the folks who take care of it. No libel here. Just the plain truth. --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 23:13:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF5916A4BF; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 23:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82DF43F93; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 23:13:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7J6CbDo029176; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 15:42:47 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Robert Watson , chat@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 15:42:36 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308191542.36188.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -4.4 () CARRIAGE_RETURNS,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_KMAIL X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: Re: Bored last night.. (aatv for FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 06:13:11 -0000 On Tuesday 19 August 2003 04:03, Robert Watson wrote: > The results are tragic: > > http://www.watson.org/~robert/aatv/ > > After writing this, I found out there's already an aatv for Linux > (http://n00n.free.fr/aatv/), which is probably much more capable than my > version, but runs on Linux. :-) > > My setup is simply a bktr device with an SVideo/RCA camera hooked up, and > it appears to work fairly well. How about.. mplayer -tv on:driver=bsdbt848:... -vo aalib :) (I have had this working but the bktr code in mplayer is pretty alpha ATM) -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 9A8C 569F 685A D928 5140 AE4B 319B 41F4 5D17 FDD5 From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 06:30:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225B216A4BF for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 06:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milton.efn.org (milton.efn.org [66.178.136.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DF443F85 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 06:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eug-lug-bounces@efn.org) Received: from milton.efn.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by milton.efn.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7KDThbi018854 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 06:29:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eug-lug-bounces@efn.org) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: eug-lug-bounces@efn.org To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 06:29:41 -0700 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: eug-lug@efn.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 X-List-Administrivia: yes Sender: eug-lug-bounces@efn.org Errors-To: eug-lug-bounces@efn.org Subject: Your message to EuG-LUG awaits moderator approval X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:30:04 -0000 Your mail to 'EuG-LUG' with the subject Re: Thank you! 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