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At 08:50 31/08/2003 +0200, Andreas Klemm wrote:
>IMHO I think its a good thing that a normal FreeBSD installation
>includes bind and sendmail. This makes FreeBSD a complete
>(standard/traditional) Unix after basic installation.

   I disagree.  There's lots of important stuff in the ports tree -- cvsup, 
portupgrade, various languages -- which are pretty basic elements of 
FreeBSD these days.  No sane person is going to be running just the base 
FreeBSD system except in very unusual circumstances.
   The ports tree may have once been a set of FreeBSD ports of software 
written for other operating systems, but it is now useful primarily as a 
packaging system.  Ideally, things like sendmail and bind would be taken 
out of the base system, and sysinstall would offer people the option of 
installing sendmail/qmail/exim/portfix/nothing and bind/djbdns/nothing; for 
that matter, most things under contrib/ are probably good candidates for 
removing from base.
   The problem, of course, is actually getting it done.

Colin Percival