From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 2:29:44 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABB937B401 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BCF9D43F3F for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:29:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 7697 invoked by uid 10); 12 Jan 2003 10:29:11 -0000 Received: from nathan.internal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0C9fcWi078975 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:41:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ue@nathan.internal) Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0C9fcZf078974 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:41:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:41:38 +0100 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0 release docs (was Re: HEADSUP: doc/ tree tagging) Message-ID: <20030112094138.GB66579@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200301100535.h0A5Zqn3023272@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110124620.GB91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301101643.h0AGh3cO028415@intruder.bmah.org> <200301102123.h0ALNFIf031693@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110221508.GE91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301110435.h0B4Zbx5038652@intruder.bmah.org> <20030111182623.GA13979@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301111940.h0BJevCZ049254@intruder.bmah.org> <200301112311.h0BNB2ZX052042@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200301112311.h0BNB2ZX052042@intruder.bmah.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 03:11:02PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > OK, 'tis done (including the version number bumps). We really, really, really need to move all version-dependent stuff into share/sgml instead of the per-language directories. > src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/release.dsl 1.6.2.1 > src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/errata/article.sgml 1.9.2.3 > src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/early-adopter/article.sgml 1.8.2.2 Already done. > The last change was unexpected, but should be relative easy to translate > (famous last words). It was a piece of cake, compared with the scramble to get the release notes up to date for 4.7 Release from LOB or the first FAQ scramble. > At this point, I have no outstanding items on my TODO list for this > release. That doesn't preclude the possibility of something else > showing up in the next week, clearly, but I'm going to try real hard to > push any non-critical changes into the post-release errata from this > point onwards. There is no god but Finnagle and Murphy is his prophet. /s/Udo -- Could you please explain why you need to smash a finger in a door in order to get a back trace?? What other grievous bodily harm does one need to inflict on one's self when kernel debugging? -- Andy Farkas on freebsd-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 2:37: 2 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D51537B401 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:37:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (discworld.nanolink.com [217.75.135.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8AC5143F5F for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:36:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 7837 invoked by uid 1000); 12 Jan 2003 10:36:10 -0000 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 12:36:10 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Udo Erdelhoff , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 5.0 release docs (was Re: HEADSUP: doc/ tree tagging) Message-ID: <20030112103609.GC371@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: "Bruce A. Mah" , Udo Erdelhoff , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <200301100535.h0A5Zqn3023272@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110124620.GB91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301101643.h0AGh3cO028415@intruder.bmah.org> <200301102123.h0ALNFIf031693@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110221508.GE91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301110435.h0B4Zbx5038652@intruder.bmah.org> <20030111172153.GA375@straylight.oblivion.bg> <200301111736.h0BHaxph047160@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SUOF0GtieIMvvwua" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200301111736.h0BHaxph047160@intruder.bmah.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 09:36:59AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Peter Pentchev wrote: >=20 > > BTW, what happened to the idea of adding 'id' attributes to all > > top-level sections in the books and articles, so there are no x3388.html > > files on the website? A patch was floating around; I could take a look > > at updating it tomorrow if nobody minds. IMHO, it would be a good thing > > to have all our documentation in sensibly-named HTML files... >=20 > Hey Peter-- >=20 > Yes, this would be a good idea. I kind of wonder whether we should hold > off committing it until after 5.0 (tagging, translations, you know) but > I'd definitely like to see it happen sometime soon. Other thoughts? Actually, I think it would be best to do it before 5.0, if possible. As people pointed out in the thread with the patch, having real names on the HTML files holding the sections helps a lot WRT search engines: it is much less likely that the search engine would cache a link to outdated information in a file that is never updated because its name changes, because it is much less likely that the file's name would change :) Still, I realize that I may have lingered a bit too much in looking into this and pushing for this change. I will send a patch later today, and then we can see if it is reasonable to include it into the 5.0 release. G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 because I didn't think of a good beginning of it. --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+IUUZ7Ri2jRYZRVMRAvG+AKCNHU9e/o4vmndB/MSUlQQWZYzCIACeJliw CT29Cc4NWBEtbDADKKeexcI= =NeK3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 3:58:56 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FC537B401 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 03:58:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A682943F7E for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 03:58:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0CBwmIB058414; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 12:58:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0CBwlx1000640; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 12:58:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0CBwfcg000639; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 12:58:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 12:58:41 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Greg Magnusson Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: links Message-ID: <20030112115841.GA564@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <4248446187.4618742484@qlo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4248446187.4618742484@qlo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 01:16:27AM -0600, Greg Magnusson wrote: > re: hyperlinks in bsd handbook > > fyi > > The two hyperlinks on this page are not functioning 01112003 1:20 am. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/history.html > Which links? I did a test here, and no broken link. Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 6:19: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2425E37B401 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 06:19:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 122A543F3F for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 06:19:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 15804 invoked by uid 10); 12 Jan 2003 14:18:55 -0000 Received: from nathan.internal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0CEIKWi087267 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:18:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ue@nathan.internal) Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0CEIK0F087266 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:18:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:18:20 +0100 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0 release docs (was Re: HEADSUP: doc/ tree tagging) Message-ID: <20030112141819.GC66579@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200301100535.h0A5Zqn3023272@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110124620.GB91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301101643.h0AGh3cO028415@intruder.bmah.org> <200301102123.h0ALNFIf031693@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110221508.GE91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301110435.h0B4Zbx5038652@intruder.bmah.org> <20030111172153.GA375@straylight.oblivion.bg> <200301111736.h0BHaxph047160@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112103609.GC371@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030112103609.GC371@straylight.oblivion.bg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 12:36:10PM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > Actually, I think it would be best to do it before 5.0, if possible. I think nobody around here doubts that adding the id attributes is a bad thing but everybody here agrees that the timing could not be worse. The arguments in favour of adding the id attributes are equally valid for all the translated versions; perhaps even more so, because 5.0 is the first major with a more-or-less complete DE handbook (and there are other teams who have their big day with 5.0-RELEASE, as well). > Still, I realize that I may have lingered a bit too much in looking into > this and pushing for this change. I will send a patch later today, and > then we can see if it is reasonable to include it into the 5.0 release. IMNSO opinion, just do it right now. This will give the translation teams something 18 hours to catch up. And even if we need a little longer, we can always slide the tags (doc/ is not as critical as src/ and has historically always been tagged somewhat later). One part of this patch should be a small but important change to the Makefile for the Release Notes web build: www/*/relnotes/Makefile: - FORMATS=html\ html-split \ + FORMATS=html \ The reasons should be obvious. No part of the release notes web version uses or references the split html files. I am currently testing this patch with a local build; if the results pass muster, this will go into the tree for de_DE before 5.0. Just in case. And once all the id attributes have been added, somebody with root access to nwww should run a find $DOCROOT -name 'x*.html' -delete shortly before a build. Yes, this will screw up the X11 section of the handbook (among others), but this the only way to remove all the bit-rotting x*.html files. /s/Udo -- He who findeth sensuous pleasures in the bodies of lush, hot, pink damsels is not righteous, but he can have a lot more fun. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 8: 4:27 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B5C37B401 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:04:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF21143ED8 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:04:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53) with ESMTP id <2003011216041905300n7q8fe>; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:04:19 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0CG4IA8060469; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:04:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0CG4IsC060468; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:04:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301121604.h0CG4IsC060468@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5+ 20021120 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Udo Erdelhoff Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0 release docs (was Re: HEADSUP: doc/ tree tagging) In-Reply-To: <20030112094138.GB66579@nathan.ruhr.de> References: <200301100535.h0A5Zqn3023272@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110124620.GB91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301101643.h0AGh3cO028415@intruder.bmah.org> <200301102123.h0ALNFIf031693@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110221508.GE91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301110435.h0B4Zbx5038652@intruder.bmah.org> <20030111182623.GA13979@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301111940.h0BJevCZ049254@intruder.bmah.org> <200301112311.h0BNB2ZX052042@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112094138.GB66579@nathan.ruhr.de> Comments: In-reply-to Udo Erdelhoff message dated "Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:41:38 +0100." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1092785474P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:04:18 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_1092785474P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > On Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 03:11:02PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > OK, 'tis done (including the version number bumps). > > We really, really, really need to move all version-dependent stuff > into share/sgml instead of the per-language directories. No argument here. > > src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/release.dsl 1.6.2.1 Well, this is the only language-dependent commit that needs to be tracked for each release (other than content, of course). All of the other weirdness in doc/share/sgml/freebsd.ent was designed so that we could go from a snapshot to a release with one commit to this file. (This comes from a time before I became more tied into the RE process than I am now.) It feels like we could do what you advocate in a fairly straightforward way (but not for this release). > > src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/errata/article.sgml 1.9.2.3 > > src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/early-adopter/article.sgml 1.8.2.2 > > Already done. > > > The last change was unexpected, but should be relative easy to translate > > (famous last words). > > It was a piece of cake, compared with the scramble to get the release > notes up to date for 4.7 Release from LOB or the first FAQ scramble. "LOB"? Bruce. --==_Exmh_1092785474P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 iD8DBQE+IZIC2MoxcVugUsMRAvsKAJ40PIXvzH8/7MifHWg0N5rFeIu6EwCfZrN1 gCuARFf4ay5HgvKWdP6lSy4= =wHDZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1092785474P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 8:20:29 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3496337B401 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:20:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4313C43F1E for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:20:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with ESMTP id <2003011216202000300rj4ene>; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:20:20 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0CGKJA8060606; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:20:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0CGKJT1060605; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:20:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301121620.h0CGKJT1060605@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5+ 20021120 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Udo Erdelhoff Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0 release docs (was Re: HEADSUP: doc/ tree tagging) In-Reply-To: <20030112141819.GC66579@nathan.ruhr.de> References: <200301100535.h0A5Zqn3023272@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110124620.GB91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301101643.h0AGh3cO028415@intruder.bmah.org> <200301102123.h0ALNFIf031693@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110221508.GE91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301110435.h0B4Zbx5038652@intruder.bmah.org> <20030111172153.GA375@straylight.oblivion.bg> <200301111736.h0BHaxph047160@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112103609.GC371@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030112141819.GC66579@nathan.ruhr.de> Comments: In-reply-to Udo Erdelhoff message dated "Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:18:20 +0100." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1148143251P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:20:19 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_1148143251P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > > Still, I realize that I may have lingered a bit too much in looking into > > this and pushing for this change. I will send a patch later today, and > > then we can see if it is reasonable to include it into the 5.0 release. > > IMNSO opinion, just do it right now. This will give the translation > teams something 18 hours to catch up. And even if we need a little > longer, we can always slide the tags (doc/ is not as critical as > src/ and has historically always been tagged somewhat later). I was not so concerned about making the translation teams track this change on short notice (they don't). I was more worried about the new attributes adding a bunch of deltas that are not immediately distinguishable from real content changes that *do* need to be tracked. (Put it this way...you're in the middle of managing a bunch of translations, but not done yet. Suddenly you see new deltas for twenty files show up. Unless you actually look at each one of them, how do you know which ones need to be tracked and which ones do not?) > One part of this patch should be a small but important change to the > Makefile for the Release Notes web build: > > www/*/relnotes/Makefile: > - FORMATS=html\ html-split \ > + FORMATS=html \ > > The reasons should be obvious. No part of the release notes web > version uses or references the split html files. I am currently > testing this patch with a local build; if the results pass muster, > this will go into the tree for de_DE before 5.0. Just in case. Ah...sorry, it's not obvious to me at all. :-p On both the en_US and de_DE Web sites, it looks to me like the release documentation pages reference the html-split files, not html. So don't you mean to get rid of html? (Gratuitous comment: I don't like html-split for the release documentation because it's too hard to do intra-document searches. But that's an issue for another time.) > And once all the id attributes have been added, somebody with root > access to nwww should run a find $DOCROOT -name 'x*.html' -delete > shortly before a build. Yes, this will screw up the X11 section > of the handbook (among others), but this the only way to remove > all the bit-rotting x*.html files. No problem. Basically, we'd do the cleanup and then immediately run a rebuild. Bruce. --==_Exmh_1148143251P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 iD8DBQE+IZXD2MoxcVugUsMRAuVlAJ97g5WCRIuj0q1yqr04pSYKXsibKwCglBEq sqNjUFVI45YT1f8FJBjv11g= =UGdQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1148143251P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 8:59: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03AB37B401 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E90543F5B for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:59:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 22456 invoked by uid 10); 12 Jan 2003 16:58:55 -0000 Received: from nathan.internal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0CGtjWi098933 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:55:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ue@nathan.internal) Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0CGtjPo098932 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:55:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:55:45 +0100 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0 release docs (was Re: HEADSUP: doc/ tree tagging) Message-ID: <20030112165544.GD66579@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20030110124620.GB91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301101643.h0AGh3cO028415@intruder.bmah.org> <200301102123.h0ALNFIf031693@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110221508.GE91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301110435.h0B4Zbx5038652@intruder.bmah.org> <20030111172153.GA375@straylight.oblivion.bg> <200301111736.h0BHaxph047160@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112103609.GC371@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030112141819.GC66579@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301121620.h0CGKJT1060605@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200301121620.h0CGKJT1060605@intruder.bmah.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 08:20:19AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > I was not so concerned about making the translation teams track this > change on short notice (they don't). I was more worried about the new > attributes adding a bunch of deltas that are not immediately > distinguishable from real content changes that *do* need to be tracked. Hmm, did I overlook something? As far as I remember, the changes were basically limited to adding id-attributes to various opening tags. At worst, they may also add #foo to some link entities. > (Put it this way...you're in the middle of managing a bunch of > translations, but not done yet. Suddenly you see new deltas for twenty > files show up. Unless you actually look at each one of them, how do > you know which ones need to be tracked and which ones do not?) From the cvs comment, of course. > Ah...sorry, it's not obvious to me at all. :-p I *do* need new glasses, it seems. Or did I try to make reality make my wishes. Anyway, I will take a closer look once the local web build has finished- > On both the en_US and de_DE Web sites, it looks to me like the release > documentation pages reference the html-split files, not html. So don't > you mean to get rid of html? Nope, the idea is to get rid of html-split. > (Gratuitous comment: I don't like html-split for the release > documentation because it's too hard to do intra-document searches. But > that's an issue for another time.) Exactly that is one of the reasons why I want to get rid of html-split. The other is that there is next to no good reason for html-split, because as far as the release notes are concerned, it just produces one or two files with 2-3% of the content and one big file with the remainder. And the split points do not make sense to me at all. > No problem. Basically, we'd do the cleanup and then immediately run a > rebuild. Talking about rebuilds: I think it would be a good idea to change the web site build to a) do complete builds (i.e. remove all checked-out copies and rebuild everythin) only ONCE per Sunday, not during every run on Sunday b) build the non-english versions more often than twice per day. /s/Udo -- "There are only a few problems in this world that cannot be solved by the correct application of a sufficient amount of high explosives" - a.s.r. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 9: 8:58 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E36137B401 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 09:08:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF52E43EB2 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 09:08:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 23026 invoked by uid 10); 12 Jan 2003 17:08:54 -0000 Received: from nathan.internal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0CH0rWi098965 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:00:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ue@nathan.internal) Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0CH0rKg098964 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:00:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:00:53 +0100 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0 release docs (was Re: HEADSUP: doc/ tree tagging) Message-ID: <20030112170053.GE66579@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20030110124620.GB91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301101643.h0AGh3cO028415@intruder.bmah.org> <200301102123.h0ALNFIf031693@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110221508.GE91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301110435.h0B4Zbx5038652@intruder.bmah.org> <20030111182623.GA13979@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301111940.h0BJevCZ049254@intruder.bmah.org> <200301112311.h0BNB2ZX052042@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112094138.GB66579@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301121604.h0CG4IsC060468@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200301121604.h0CG4IsC060468@intruder.bmah.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 08:04:18AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > We really, really, really need to move all version-dependent stuff > > into share/sgml instead of the per-language directories. > > No argument here. I hope to find some time to play around with this part in the near future. > It feels like we could do what you advocate in a fairly straightforward > way (but not for this release). Obviously, this needs proper testing. > > It was a piece of cake, compared with the scramble to get the release > > notes up to date for 4.7 Release from LOB or the first FAQ scramble. > > "LOB"? Lehmann's Online Bookshop - they sell a "localized" version of the FreeBSD CD set. Basically, the four original CDs plus a fifth CD with German stuff (archives of the DE mailing lists, additional documenation available only in German, etc). /s/Udo -- I'd like to meet the man who invented sex and see what he's working on now. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 9:56:15 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB60A37B401 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 09:56:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C533243F5B for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 09:56:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with ESMTP id <20030112175610001003oncoe>; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:56:10 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0CHu6A8063154; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 09:56:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0CHu5Mh063151; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 09:56:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301121756.h0CHu5Mh063151@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5+ 20021120 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Udo Erdelhoff Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0 release docs (was Re: HEADSUP: doc/ tree tagging) In-Reply-To: <20030112165544.GD66579@nathan.ruhr.de> References: <20030110124620.GB91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301101643.h0AGh3cO028415@intruder.bmah.org> <200301102123.h0ALNFIf031693@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110221508.GE91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301110435.h0B4Zbx5038652@intruder.bmah.org> <20030111172153.GA375@straylight.oblivion.bg> <200301111736.h0BHaxph047160@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112103609.GC371@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030112141819.GC66579@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301121620.h0CGKJT1060605@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112165544.GD66579@nathan.ruhr.de> Comments: In-reply-to Udo Erdelhoff message dated "Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:55:45 +0100." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1617906373P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 09:56:05 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_1617906373P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 08:20:19AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > I was not so concerned about making the translation teams track this > > change on short notice (they don't). I was more worried about the new > > attributes adding a bunch of deltas that are not immediately > > distinguishable from real content changes that *do* need to be tracked. > > Hmm, did I overlook something? As far as I remember, the changes were > basically limited to adding id-attributes to various opening tags. > At worst, they may also add #foo to some link entities. No you didn't miss anything. I'm just being conservative in trying to limit the amount of headache caused to translators, especially given the shorter-than-normal doc slush. If there's no headache involved, I withdraw my objections. > > Ah...sorry, it's not obvious to me at all. :-p > > I *do* need new glasses, it seems. Or did I try to make reality make > my wishes. Anyway, I will take a closer look once the local web build > has finished- > > > On both the en_US and de_DE Web sites, it looks to me like the release > > documentation pages reference the html-split files, not html. So don't > > you mean to get rid of html? > > Nope, the idea is to get rid of html-split. Ah, OK, then. I like this even more. > > (Gratuitous comment: I don't like html-split for the release > > documentation because it's too hard to do intra-document searches. But > > that's an issue for another time.) > > Exactly that is one of the reasons why I want to get rid of html-split. > The other is that there is next to no good reason for html-split, > because as far as the release notes are concerned, it just produces > one or two files with 2-3% of the content and one big file with the > remainder. And the split points do not make sense to me at all. This may have to do with places where I put id attributes (for the purposes of making intra-document links, but having nothing to do with splitting the document). > > No problem. Basically, we'd do the cleanup and then immediately run a > > rebuild. > > Talking about rebuilds: I think it would be a good idea to change the > web site build to > a) do complete builds (i.e. remove all checked-out copies and rebuild > everythin) only ONCE per Sunday, not during every run on Sunday Huh? > b) build the non-english versions more often than twice per day. Sure, sounds good. These are issues ultimately to be decided by webmaster@, but they sound pretty reasonable to me. Bruce. --==_Exmh_1617906373P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 iD8DBQE+Iaw12MoxcVugUsMRAgfEAJ9E4YA6eILycWEX9kR5gX4sPDnWzACgsJkp V2qmrPZTAHVqbyKwkUZxxlo= =6M0d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1617906373P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 9:59: 4 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC28437B401 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 09:59:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C799543E4A for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 09:59:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02) with ESMTP id <2003011217590000200221ude>; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:59:01 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0CHx0A8063208; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 09:59:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0CHx0r7063207; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 09:59:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301121759.h0CHx0r7063207@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5+ 20021120 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Udo Erdelhoff Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0 release docs (was Re: HEADSUP: doc/ tree tagging) In-Reply-To: <20030112170053.GE66579@nathan.ruhr.de> References: <20030110124620.GB91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301101643.h0AGh3cO028415@intruder.bmah.org> <200301102123.h0ALNFIf031693@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110221508.GE91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301110435.h0B4Zbx5038652@intruder.bmah.org> <20030111182623.GA13979@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301111940.h0BJevCZ049254@intruder.bmah.org> <200301112311.h0BNB2ZX052042@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112094138.GB66579@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301121604.h0CG4IsC060468@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112170053.GE66579@nathan.ruhr.de> Comments: In-reply-to Udo Erdelhoff message dated "Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:00:53 +0100." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1628106588P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 09:59:00 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_1628106588P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 08:04:18AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > We really, really, really need to move all version-dependent stuff > > > into share/sgml instead of the per-language directories. > > > > No argument here. > > I hope to find some time to play around with this part in the near > future. Hint: We need one other entity to help compose the manpage hyperlinks correctly (specifically, to set the manpath= part of those URLs). The minor change to the footer can probably be keyed off of the release.type.snapshot entity. There's probably something I am missing...it can't be that easy. :-) Bruce. --==_Exmh_1628106588P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 iD8DBQE+Iazj2MoxcVugUsMRAtaOAJ4oH7MXhq5SxRrGoH21hPft5jbGRwCeKAZ5 uHHTpe/KbWVcjLZkgga/CHU= =f4Zi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1628106588P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 10: 6:44 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4AF37B401; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:06:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from Kain.sumuk.de (Kain.sumuk.de [213.221.86.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C270E43F18; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:06:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vincent@sumuk.de) Received: from Moses.earth.sol (Moses.earth.sol [192.168.1.1]) by Kain.sumuk.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0CI6YQU098611; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 19:06:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from vincent@sumuk.de) Received: from Moses.earth.sol (localhost.earth.sol [127.0.0.1]) by Moses.earth.sol (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0CI6XLS042843; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 19:06:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from vincent@Moses.earth.sol) Received: (from vincent@localhost) by Moses.earth.sol (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h0CI6WfX042842; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 19:06:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 19:06:31 +0100 From: Martin Heinen To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Udo Erdelhoff , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0 release docs (was Re: HEADSUP: doc/ tree tagging) Message-ID: <20030112190630.A42070@sumuk.de> References: <200301102123.h0ALNFIf031693@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110221508.GE91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301110435.h0B4Zbx5038652@intruder.bmah.org> <20030111172153.GA375@straylight.oblivion.bg> <200301111736.h0BHaxph047160@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112103609.GC371@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030112141819.GC66579@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301121620.h0CGKJT1060605@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112165544.GD66579@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301121756.h0CHu5Mh063151@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200301121756.h0CHu5Mh063151@intruder.bmah.org>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 09:56:05AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 09:56:05AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 08:20:19AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > I was not so concerned about making the translation teams track this > > > change on short notice (they don't). I was more worried about the new > > > attributes adding a bunch of deltas that are not immediately > > > distinguishable from real content changes that *do* need to be tracked. > > > > Hmm, did I overlook something? As far as I remember, the changes were > > basically limited to adding id-attributes to various opening tags. > > At worst, they may also add #foo to some link entities. > > No you didn't miss anything. I'm just being conservative in trying to > limit the amount of headache caused to translators, especially given the > shorter-than-normal doc slush. If there's no headache involved, I > withdraw my objections. No headaches involved, I just finished preparing the fix for the German handbook and now I'm waiting for the en_US-commit to bump up our "based upon"-revision markers. -- Marxpitn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 10:14:39 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5492037B401 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:14:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (discworld.nanolink.com [217.75.135.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79A2B43F18 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:14:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 78450 invoked by uid 1000); 12 Jan 2003 18:13:50 -0000 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:13:50 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: Martin Heinen Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Udo Erdelhoff , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0 release docs (was Re: HEADSUP: doc/ tree tagging) Message-ID: <20030112181350.GA36479@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Martin Heinen , "Bruce A. Mah" , Udo Erdelhoff , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20030110221508.GE91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301110435.h0B4Zbx5038652@intruder.bmah.org> <20030111172153.GA375@straylight.oblivion.bg> <200301111736.h0BHaxph047160@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112103609.GC371@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030112141819.GC66579@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301121620.h0CGKJT1060605@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112165544.GD66579@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301121756.h0CHu5Mh063151@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112190630.A42070@sumuk.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030112190630.A42070@sumuk.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 07:06:31PM +0100, Martin Heinen wrote: > On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 09:56:05AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 08:20:19AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: >=20 > > > > I was not so concerned about making the translation teams track this > > > > change on short notice (they don't). I was more worried about the = new > > > > attributes adding a bunch of deltas that are not immediately > > > > distinguishable from real content changes that *do* need to be trac= ked. > > >=20 > > > Hmm, did I overlook something? As far as I remember, the changes were > > > basically limited to adding id-attributes to various opening tags. > > > At worst, they may also add #foo to some link entities. > >=20 > > No you didn't miss anything. I'm just being conservative in trying to > > limit the amount of headache caused to translators, especially given the > > shorter-than-normal doc slush. If there's no headache involved, I > > withdraw my objections. >=20 > No headaches involved, I just finished preparing the fix > for the German handbook and now I'm waiting for the > en_US-commit to bump up our "based upon"-revision markers. I'm in the process of committing the id tags addition to the doc/ and relnotes trees; however, things are a bit slow on the bandwidth front here :( All should be done in at most 25-30 minutes. G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 If this sentence were in Chinese, it would say something else. --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQE+IbBe7Ri2jRYZRVMRAqaLAJ9F2eIlnd0Ey8NK8iDjV4gylprneQCXT3Sm dk8Jd5b4KK97ERU/RCqrNw== =oUJz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 10:37:29 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96CA937B401 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:37:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (discworld.nanolink.com [217.75.135.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24E3B43F3F for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:37:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 78965 invoked by uid 1000); 12 Jan 2003 18:36:39 -0000 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:36:39 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: Martin Heinen Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Udo Erdelhoff , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0 release docs (was Re: HEADSUP: doc/ tree tagging) Message-ID: <20030112183639.GB36479@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Martin Heinen , "Bruce A. Mah" , Udo Erdelhoff , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200301110435.h0B4Zbx5038652@intruder.bmah.org> <20030111172153.GA375@straylight.oblivion.bg> <200301111736.h0BHaxph047160@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112103609.GC371@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030112141819.GC66579@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301121620.h0CGKJT1060605@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112165544.GD66579@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301121756.h0CHu5Mh063151@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112190630.A42070@sumuk.de> <20030112181350.GA36479@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="61jdw2sOBCFtR2d/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030112181350.GA36479@straylight.oblivion.bg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --61jdw2sOBCFtR2d/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 08:13:50PM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 07:06:31PM +0100, Martin Heinen wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 09:56:05AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 08:20:19AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > >=20 > > > > > I was not so concerned about making the translation teams track t= his > > > > > change on short notice (they don't). I was more worried about th= e new > > > > > attributes adding a bunch of deltas that are not immediately > > > > > distinguishable from real content changes that *do* need to be tr= acked. > > > >=20 > > > > Hmm, did I overlook something? As far as I remember, the changes w= ere > > > > basically limited to adding id-attributes to various opening tags. > > > > At worst, they may also add #foo to some link entities. > > >=20 > > > No you didn't miss anything. I'm just being conservative in trying to > > > limit the amount of headache caused to translators, especially given = the > > > shorter-than-normal doc slush. If there's no headache involved, I > > > withdraw my objections. > >=20 > > No headaches involved, I just finished preparing the fix > > for the German handbook and now I'm waiting for the > > en_US-commit to bump up our "based upon"-revision markers. >=20 > I'm in the process of committing the id tags addition to the doc/ and > relnotes trees; however, things are a bit slow on the bandwidth front > here :( All should be done in at most 25-30 minutes. OK, after a botched CVS invocation, the id's have been added to the en_US.ISO8859-1/ subtrees of both the doc/ tree and the relnotes in src/. Apologies for the misleading commit messages; one would think that three years and more should have been enough to teach me the CVS command-line options :( G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 If this sentence were in Chinese, it would say something else. --61jdw2sOBCFtR2d/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+IbW37Ri2jRYZRVMRAkdlAJwPFv+Wqbxq6w5wCidRej6zC1eALgCgi4uj 5OOqah5g/vJ6KRV0AW/qdJY= =0fQh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --61jdw2sOBCFtR2d/-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 11: 6:22 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A1137B401; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:06:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from h00609772adf0.ne.client2.attbi.com (h00609772adf0.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.61.43.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D4C43F1E; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:06:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rodrigc@attbi.com) Received: from h00609772adf0.ne.client2.attbi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h00609772adf0.ne.client2.attbi.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0CJ6LTc041258; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:06:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rodrigc@h00609772adf0.ne.client2.attbi.com) Received: (from rodrigc@localhost) by h00609772adf0.ne.client2.attbi.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0CJ6KNu041257; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:06:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:06:20 -0500 From: Craig Rodrigues To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: [PATCH] minor spelling fix Message-ID: <20030112190620.GA41249@attbi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="UugvWAfsgieZRqgk" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi, A minor spelling correction for section 19.10 of the Handbook. -- Craig Rodrigues http://home.attbi.com/~rodrigc rodrigc@attbi.com --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="chapter.sgml.diff" Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.194 diff -u -r1.194 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 2003/01/12 18:20:50 1.194 +++ chapter.sgml 2003/01/12 19:05:09 @@ -4277,7 +4277,7 @@ a local DNS server may cache and respond more quickly - then querying an outside name server. + than querying an outside name server. a reduction in overall network traffic is desired (DNS --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 11:25: 3 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90AC37B401; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E9643F13; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:25:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0CJOtfW060572; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:24:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0CJOvx1002599; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:24:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0CJOqRM002598; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:24:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:24:51 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Craig Rodrigues Cc: doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] minor spelling fix Message-ID: <20030112192451.GE564@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <20030112190620.GA41249@attbi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030112190620.GA41249@attbi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Fixed, thanks. Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 12: 6: 3 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F46237B401 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 12:06:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BC743F6B for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 12:06:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0CK5wfW060987; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 21:05:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0CK60x1002707; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 21:06:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0CK5x01002706; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 21:05:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 21:05:59 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Udo Erdelhoff Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0 release docs (was Re: HEADSUP: doc/ tree tagging) Message-ID: <20030112200559.GF564@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <200301101643.h0AGh3cO028415@intruder.bmah.org> <200301102123.h0ALNFIf031693@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110221508.GE91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301110435.h0B4Zbx5038652@intruder.bmah.org> <20030111182623.GA13979@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301111940.h0BJevCZ049254@intruder.bmah.org> <200301112311.h0BNB2ZX052042@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112094138.GB66579@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301121604.h0CG4IsC060468@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112170053.GE66579@nathan.ruhr.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030112170053.GE66579@nathan.ruhr.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 06:00:53PM +0100, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 08:04:18AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > We really, really, really need to move all version-dependent stuff > > > into share/sgml instead of the per-language directories. > > > > No argument here. > > I hope to find some time to play around with this part in the near > future. > I did the "thing", I just wait for the right moment to commit it. Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 12:20: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D6B37B401 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 12:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from out033.list-email.net (out033.list-email.net [66.180.247.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8924243E4A for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 12:20:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perf-errors.1542.144863.15060306.501.0.1@b.list-email.net) To: doc@freebsd.org From: "Human Resources And Staffing Ctr." 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To unsubscribe from these mailings, please click here: http://FreePrizePalace.tfmb.net/?aaaay2.abbl2k.aaaLQF.aaaaab.aaaaaa.doc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 14: 2:39 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3971B37B401 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:02:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.netbeat.de (mail.netbeat.de [62.208.140.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C800B43EB2 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:02:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from slaven@rezic.de) Received: (qmail 16460 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2003 22:16:06 -0000 Received: from 130-149-145-74.dialup.cs.tu-berlin.de (HELO vran.herceg.de) (130.149.145.74) by mail.netbeat.de with SMTP; 12 Jan 2003 22:16:06 -0000 Received: (from eserte@localhost) by vran.herceg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4/Submit) id h0CJCY6c039300; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:12:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from slaven@rezic.de) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:12:34 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200301121912.h0CJCY6c039300@vran.herceg.de> X-Authentication-Warning: vran.herceg.de: eserte set sender to slaven@rezic.de using -f From: Slaven Rezic To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: porters-handbook: suggestion Reply-To: slaven@rezic.de X-Mailer: GNU Emacs/sendmail [version 20.7.1] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here's a small suggestion for the "Automated package list creation" chapter in .../en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/porting-autoplist.html: Change the line (cd /var/tmp/port-name && find -d * -type d) | comm -13 OLD-DIRS - | sed -e 's#^#@dirrm #' >> pkg-plist to (cd /var/tmp/port-name && find -d * -type d) | comm -13 OLD-DIRS - | sed -e 's#^#@dirrm #' | sort -r >> pkg-plist By inserting "sort -r" directories are sorted effectively by length, so it is assured that parent directories are not deleted before their subdirectories. Regards, Slaven -- Slaven Rezic - slaven@rezic.de tktimex - project time manager http://sourceforge.net/projects/ptktools/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 12 23:28:57 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0311137B401 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 23:28:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F20D543E4A for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 23:28:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 22878 invoked by uid 10); 13 Jan 2003 07:28:52 -0000 Received: from nathan.internal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0D7PRWi058332 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:25:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ue@nathan.internal) Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0D7PREm058331 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:25:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:25:27 +0100 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0 release docs (was Re: HEADSUP: doc/ tree tagging) Message-ID: <20030113072526.GF66579@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200301102123.h0ALNFIf031693@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110221508.GE91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301110435.h0B4Zbx5038652@intruder.bmah.org> <20030111172153.GA375@straylight.oblivion.bg> <200301111736.h0BHaxph047160@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112103609.GC371@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030112141819.GC66579@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301121620.h0CGKJT1060605@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112165544.GD66579@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301121756.h0CHu5Mh063151@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200301121756.h0CHu5Mh063151@intruder.bmah.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 09:56:05AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > Talking about rebuilds: I think it would be a good idea to change the > > web site build to > > a) do complete builds (i.e. remove all checked-out copies and rebuild > > everythin) only ONCE per Sunday, not during every run on Sunday > > Huh? to quote from the script: cond="X`date '+%u'` = X7 `echo $subtrees | sed -E 's/([^ ]*)/-o ! -d \1/g'`"; if [ $cond ]; then # Remove the old copies. cond will always be set on sundays (day 7), so each time the script is called on a sunday, it will remove the checked out version, check out a fresh copy, and build everything. /s/Udo -- > FreeBSD recently made 'flex' its default implementation of 'lex'. For geological values of ``recently''. Archie Cobbs and Garett Wollmann on cvs-all@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 13 2:21:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E2737B401 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:21:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from web16706.mail.tpe.yahoo.com (web16706.mail.tpe.yahoo.com [202.1.236.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B82043ED8 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:21:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from a0912357430@yahoo.com.tw) Message-ID: <20030113102146.48222.qmail@web16706.mail.tpe.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.65.40.116] by web16706.mail.tpe.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:21:46 CST Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:21:46 +0800 (CST) From: =?big5?q?=AAQ=A7=D3=B1l?= Subject: Re: Look,my beautiful girl friend To: freebsd-doc In-Reply-To: <200301120012.h0C0CSZp077830@mm.ks.edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- freebsd-doc Єє°T®§ЎG
????~№п¤Ј°_~ЅР°Э©p¬OЅЦ~ҐiҐH§i¶D§Ъ¶Ь~БВБВ~^.^~" ----------------------------------------------------------------- ЁC¤СіЈYahoo!©_јЇ Yahoo! ©_јЇ©зЅж - ¤°»тіЈ¦іЎA¤°»тіЈЅжЎA¤°»тіЈ¤Ј©_©ЗЎI bid.yahoo.com.tw To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 13 3:50:49 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FBB37B401 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 03:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from pasmtp.tele.dk (pasmtp.tele.dk [193.162.159.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236A343F3F for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 03:50:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hektor@newz.dk) Received: from newz.dk (cpe.atm2-0-54276.0x50a1d5e2.hrnxx6.customer.tele.dk [80.161.213.226]) by pasmtp.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C248ABB74 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 12:50:29 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3E22A93C.302@newz.dk> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 12:55:40 +0100 From: Martin Schou User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en, da MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: PDF-version of the FreeBSD handbook Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've taken the liberty of adding bookmarks to the pdf-file, and I am wondering if you would be interested in the "new and improved" version of the handbook, and if so - how do I deliver it to you? -- /-Martin Schou, Denmark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 13 4: 0:28 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332CB37B401 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 04:00:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0E743E4A for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 04:00:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0DC0QNS023424 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 04:00:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0DC0QrA023419; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 04:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAB237B401 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 03:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from noname.csdl.lt (noname.csdl.lt [194.176.40.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D507043F3F for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 03:55:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulius@noname.csdl.lt) Received: (qmail 7649 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Jan 2003 11:55:52 -0000 Message-Id: <20030113115552.7648.qmail@noname.csdl.lt> Date: 13 Jan 2003 11:55:52 -0000 From: Paulius Bulotas Reply-To: Paulius Bulotas To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/47015: man boot(8): kernel location changed in 5.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 47015 >Category: docs >Synopsis: man boot(8): kernel location changed in 5.0 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Jan 13 04:00:25 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Paulius Bulotas >Release: FreeBSD 4.6.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD noname.csdl.lt 4.6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.6.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Aug 15 06:12:24 GMT 2002 root@test.csdl.lt:/usr/src/sys/compile/NONAME i386 >Description: Kernel location changed in 5.0, now it's /boot/kernel/kernel and /boot/kernel.old/kernel, but that's not reflected in boot(8) FILES section >How-To-Repeat: man boot on 5.0-CURRENT /FILES >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 13 8:16:35 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0006337B401; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:16:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABC243ED8; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:16:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0DGGYNS000434; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:16:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0DGGYMh000429; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:16:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:16:34 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200301131616.h0DGGYMh000429@freefall.freebsd.org> To: paulius@kaktusas.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/47015: man boot(8): kernel location changed in 5.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: man boot(8): kernel location changed in 5.0 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Mon Jan 13 08:16:14 PST 2003 State-Changed-Why: Fixed! 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 13 10:28:37 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4285F37B401; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 10:28:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE09643F13; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 10:28:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (brueffer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0DISaNS042442; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 10:28:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brueffer@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brueffer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0DISav5042438; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 10:28:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 10:28:36 -0800 (PST) From: Christian Brueffer Message-Id: <200301131828.h0DISav5042438@freefall.freebsd.org> To: brueffer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, brueffer@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/40951: Various fixes for the solid-state article Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Various fixes for the solid-state article Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->brueffer Responsible-Changed-By: brueffer Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jan 13 10:26:20 PST 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: cleaning up my own mess :-) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=40951 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 13 11: 0:34 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9779E37B407 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0253243E4A for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:00:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0DJ0NNS049317 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:00:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0DJ0Nix049292 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:00:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:00:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301131900.h0DJ0Nix049292@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [1999/10/04] i386/14135 doc lpt1 nolonger exists after 3.2-RELEASE s [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () o [2002/01/15] ports/33929 doc Section 15.15 of the FreeBSD Porter's Han o [2002/03/06] docs/35620 doc make release fails in documentation for R o [2002/03/08] docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for o [2002/03/21] docs/36168 doc -pthread/_THREAD_SAFE docs missing in gcc o [2002/04/12] docs/37029 doc The translation in Italian language of th o [2002/08/20] docs/41824 doc LANG is not documented in setlocale(3) o [2002/08/21] docs/41865 doc [PATCH] XFree86 section should document - o [2002/08/22] docs/41892 doc Patch to fix slowdowns of documentation b o [2002/09/01] docs/42292 doc PPP documentation should use quote marks o [2002/09/02] docs/42339 doc Release process doesn't document required o [2002/09/13] docs/42762 doc ppp.8 has no description of $env and ~use o [2002/10/07] docs/43776 doc /etc/sshd_config settings overridden by P o [2002/11/14] docs/45303 doc Bug in PDF DocBook rendering o [2002/12/02] docs/45948 doc Porter's Handbook doesn't address securit o [2002/12/15] docs/46286 doc there's an omission and an error in the n o [2002/12/18] docs/46365 doc there is no documentation on getosreldate 19 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/04/29] docs/26943 doc [patch] description of :C modifier is mis o [2001/05/25] docs/27653 doc Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME o [2001/05/26] docs/27654 doc Update to PR 27653 o [2001/07/04] docs/28699 doc strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl o [2001/08/09] docs/29571 doc [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel funct a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/09/08] docs/30442 doc remove broken referemce to gettime(9) fro o [2001/09/27] docs/30873 doc ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2001/10/09] docs/31164 doc man page for strftime is incorrect o [2001/11/15] docs/32020 doc loader.8 manpage missing tunables o [2001/11/16] docs/32054 doc inconsistency between index.3 and rindex. o [2001/12/01] docs/32425 doc Document cvs update `P file' output o [2001/12/10] docs/32674 doc no man page for the ntp_adjtime system ca o [2002/01/05] docs/33589 doc Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process . o [2002/01/13] docs/33852 doc split(1) man page implies that input file o [2002/01/14] docs/33877 doc Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non- o [2002/01/15] misc/33926 doc Search function on website can not access o [2002/02/01] docs/34529 doc [patch] Grammar nits in usbd.conf(5) and o [2002/02/15] bin/34955 doc [PATCH] ps(1) is out of touch with realit a [2002/02/16] docs/35011 doc There are no commands called "diskless" o o [2002/02/22] docs/35222 doc mailing list archive URL regexp suboptima o [2002/02/26] docs/35343 doc Old broken Unix docco Makefiles o [2002/03/03] docs/35523 doc manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1) o [2002/03/05] docs/35575 doc Pw(8) man page makes no mention of /var/l o [2002/03/06] docs/35602 doc dump(8)/restore(8) pages don't explain "a o [2002/03/06] docs/35607 doc dump(1) page needs discussion of scary er o [2002/03/06] docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explana o [2002/03/06] docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long era o [2002/03/06] docs/35612 doc ps(1) page "state" description doesn't me o [2002/03/07] docs/35642 doc lo(4) page maybe should document optional o [2002/03/07] docs/35644 doc lo(4) page presumes familiarity with prin o [2002/03/07] docs/35646 doc cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. o [2002/03/07] docs/35647 doc www; combine query-by-number and multi-fi o [2002/03/07] docs/35648 doc rc.conf; add note about "flags" to both f o [2002/03/07] docs/35649 doc mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot. o [2002/03/08] docs/35686 doc blackhole(4) page seems to contradict its o [2002/03/08] docs/35687 doc /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers o [2002/03/10] docs/35732 doc adduser(8) page has obsolete reference an o [2002/03/12] docs/35823 doc [PATCH] Little Restructuring of the Devel o [2002/03/15] docs/35941 doc cd(4) manual doesn't mention "target" use o [2002/03/15] docs/35942 doc at(1) manual doesn't describe at.allow an o [2002/03/15] docs/35943 doc at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/ o [2002/03/15] docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wro o [2002/03/18] docs/36055 doc [PATCH] adding some help-yourself-info to o [2002/03/20] misc/36154 doc Getting USB mouse to work: usbd and mouse o [2002/03/28] docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded bo o [2002/03/28] docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailin o [2002/03/28] docs/36459 doc tftp(1) manual's "get" syntax/description o [2002/03/29] docs/36524 doc bad links on handbook index page o [2002/04/01] docs/36628 doc header an footer of openssl manpages are o [2002/04/03] docs/36724 doc ipnat(5) manpage grammar is incomplete an o [2002/04/18] docs/37221 doc obsolete reference to seqpacket in mount_ o [2002/04/25] docs/37457 doc acpi(4) man page references non-existant o [2002/04/25] docs/37470 doc jail field not documented in procfs(5) o [2002/05/02] docs/37693 doc Minor correxion to FreeBSD Porter's Handb o [2002/05/03] docs/37719 doc Detail VOP_ naming in a relevant man-page o [2002/05/07] docs/37843 doc manual for pthread_setschedparam is wrong o [2002/05/11] docs/37952 doc Typos, missing/incorrect accents in Itali o [2002/05/22] docs/38426 doc extra manpage .Xr to locate relevant sysc o [2002/05/25] docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to exist o [2002/05/27] docs/38620 doc Committers Guide and CVS o [2002/05/27] docs/38647 doc cvsupit built-in instructions are slightl o [2002/05/31] docs/38772 doc firewall_type feature not mentioned on Ha o [2002/06/02] docs/38815 doc Many typo fixed, and a question left unan o [2002/06/02] docs/38817 doc /usr/share/man/man8/boot.8.gz documents / o [2002/06/07] docs/38982 doc developers-hanbook/Jail fix o [2002/06/08] docs/39044 doc The man page for rot13(6) never mentions o [2002/06/10] docs/39129 doc handbook; type WRT simulating postscript o [2002/06/12] docs/39213 doc No rc(4) man page o [2002/06/12] docs/39214 doc No my(4) man page o [2002/06/14] docs/39293 doc the dumpon man page incorrectly states th o [2002/06/15] docs/39348 doc kenv fetch of hostname requires dhcp/boot o [2002/06/19] docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broa o [2002/06/19] docs/39532 doc 'find' man page should o [2002/06/24] docs/39822 doc firewall.7: change "Mbits" to "Mbits/s" a o [2002/06/24] docs/39824 doc Various tweaks for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/bo o [2002/07/04] docs/40196 doc man find does not describe -follow o [2002/07/05] docs/40234 doc Typos and language cleanup in /usr/share/ o [2002/07/07] docs/40313 doc Grammar, wording, and clarifications for o [2002/07/10] docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to o [2002/07/10] docs/40443 doc Update books/faq/book.sgml for USB .ko's o [2002/07/21] docs/40851 doc [PATCH] "mergemaster -p" in UPDATING's "C o [2002/07/22] docs/40910 doc [PATCH] Typos & grammer fixes for /usr/sh o [2002/07/22] docs/40911 doc [PATCH] Minor improvements for /usr/share o [2002/07/24] docs/40952 doc login.conf should mention that "idletime" o [2002/07/26] docs/41034 doc [PATCH] Typos in /etc/named/named.conf co o [2002/07/28] docs/41089 doc pax -B option does not mention interactio o [2002/07/29] docs/41110 doc "apropos linux" doesn't find brandelf o [2002/07/30] docs/41167 doc adventure.6 man-page, add section AUTHORS o [2002/08/02] docs/41263 doc [PATCH] Clarifications and minor grammer o [2002/08/02] docs/41270 doc confusing directions for kernelconfig cha o [2002/08/07] docs/41423 doc Update FAQ: attrib command for windows du o [2002/08/12] docs/41578 doc Incorrect #include in the usb(4) manpage o [2002/08/12] docs/41580 doc usb(4) manpage: Structures' fields aren't o [2002/08/18] docs/41761 doc Update for /ru/internal/ part of site o [2002/08/19] docs/41787 doc man page for route (Section 8) missing de o [2002/08/19] docs/41791 doc Documentation formatting error o [2002/08/19] docs/41807 doc natd -punch_fw "bug" o [2002/08/20] docs/41820 doc Device driver confusion in Handbook (2.3) o [2002/08/21] docs/41879 doc cleanup to DOCROOT/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl o [2002/08/22] docs/41919 doc MINI kernel for bootfloppy (Handbook p.34 o [2002/09/01] docs/42293 doc copystr(9) man page incorrectly describes o [2002/09/01] docs/42312 doc make release broken without full ports o [2002/09/11] docs/42651 doc [PATCH] mount([28]) do not document vfs.u o [2002/09/26] docs/43410 doc hardware-i386.html doesn't even mention p o [2002/09/27] docs/43416 doc pw(8) -u uidmin,uidmax feature is out of o [2002/10/01] docs/43569 doc src/share/examples/worm/README out-of-dat o [2002/10/04] docs/43651 doc stab(5) incorrectly states to include jus o [2002/10/09] docs/43861 doc non-trivial typo in wicontrol man page f [2002/10/09] docs/43864 doc Minor documentation to add o [2002/10/10] docs/43899 doc incorrect info in man page for fetch (8) o [2002/10/11] docs/43941 doc Rationale for Upgrade Sequence o [2002/10/14] docs/44074 doc ln(1) manual clarifications [patch] o [2002/10/18] docs/44217 doc Problematic PDF version of handbook for 4 o [2002/10/19] docs/44296 doc Contributors page refers to History secti o [2002/10/20] docs/44312 doc Typos in /usr/src/share/examples/ipfw/cha o [2002/10/21] docs/44337 doc [PATCH] netstat(1) manual references none o [2002/10/23] docs/44400 doc ipfw(8) has contradictions in bridged and o [2002/10/24] docs/44435 doc sysctl manpage: add example for tcsh o [2002/10/29] docs/44594 doc Handbook doesn't mention drivers.flp for o [2002/11/11] docs/45213 doc [PATCH] Fix sorting in Additional Contrib o [2002/11/11] docs/45214 doc [PATCH] Fix sorting in Additional Contrib o [2002/11/11] docs/45215 doc [PATCH] Fix sorting in Additional Contrib o [2002/11/14] docs/45294 doc LINT notes are murky re PQ_CACHESIZE sett o [2002/11/17] docs/45371 doc man page for exports lacks information on o [2002/11/25] docs/45702 doc Error in manual page ssh_config(5) o [2002/12/02] docs/45940 doc burncd missing info o [2002/12/11] docs/46181 doc "make fetch-recursive" target description o [2002/12/11] docs/46196 doc Missing return value in (set_)menu_format o [2002/12/11] docs/46200 doc fix for ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/porters-handbo o [2002/12/15] docs/46271 doc Omission in ldconfig(8) manpage o [2002/12/16] docs/46291 doc correlation between HZ kernel config para o [2002/12/16] docs/46295 doc please add information to Nvi recovery em o [2002/12/20] docs/46415 doc Proposed change in man-page wording for " o [2003/01/02] docs/46709 doc tables in terminfo.5 are broken o [2003/01/05] docs/46793 doc DEVICE_POLLING can not be used with SMP, o [2003/01/07] docs/46841 doc Typo in manual page sshd(8). o [2003/01/09] docs/46919 doc setkey(8) references the wrong RFC for ES 140 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 13 11:33:59 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146EB37B401 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE9443E4A for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:33:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02) with ESMTP id <2003011319335600200p73a7e>; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 19:33:56 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0DJXtA8095520; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:33:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0DJXtu2095519; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:33:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301131933.h0DJXtu2095519@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5+ 20021120 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Martin Schou Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PDF-version of the FreeBSD handbook In-Reply-To: <3E22A93C.302@newz.dk> References: <3E22A93C.302@newz.dk> Comments: In-reply-to Martin Schou message dated "Mon, 13 Jan 2003 12:55:40 +0100." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-5082962P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:33:55 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-5082962P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Martin Schou wrote: > I've taken the liberty of adding bookmarks to the pdf-file, and I am > wondering if you would be interested in the "new and improved" version > of the handbook, and if so - how do I deliver it to you? Hmmm. Having the bookmarks is kind of cool...the main problem is that they'd disappear the next time someone re-generates the Handbook. A big reason we don't have PDF bookmarks in the Handbook, BTW, is due to some limitations in the document-building toolchain (basically, it'd hard for us to build PDF renditions of big documents). It'd be great if we could fix these, but this is easier said than done. :-p Thanks! Bruce. --==_Exmh_-5082962P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 iD8DBQE+IxSi2MoxcVugUsMRAqgkAJ9fak5+1YoH+KeZOyhB42jHFHAORACfUa0p BmehLUWmmFHEQLCXmbsKKfM= =bsml -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-5082962P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 13 11:43:32 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80ED637B401; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:43:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2991143FC7; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:43:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joerg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (joerg@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0DJhVNS068364; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:43:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joerg@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from joerg@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0DJhUNr068360; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:43:30 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:43:30 +0100 (MET) From: Joerg Wunsch Message-Id: <200301131943.h0DJhUNr068360@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tmseck@netcologne.de, joerg@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/42651: [PATCH] mount([28]) do not document vfs.usermount Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] mount([28]) do not document vfs.usermount State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: joerg State-Changed-When: Mon Jan 13 20:42:56 MET 2003 State-Changed-Why: Suggested fix applied in rev 1.33 (mount(2)) and 1.54 (mount(8)), danke sehr! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=42651 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 13 11:53:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E5E37B401; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:53:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E80A43ED8; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:53:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from moble.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h0DJrBAp082688; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 14:53:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 14:53:19 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: bmah@FreeBSD.org Cc: hektor@newz.dk, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PDF-version of the FreeBSD handbook Message-Id: <20030113145319.0ee2c39a.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200301131933.h0DJXtu2095519@intruder.bmah.org> References: <3E22A93C.302@newz.dk> <200301131933.h0DJXtu2095519@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.8claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:33:55 -0800 "Bruce A. Mah" wrote: > If memory serves me right, Martin Schou wrote: > > I've taken the liberty of adding bookmarks to the pdf-file, and I am > > > > wondering if you would be interested in the "new and improved" > > version of the handbook, and if so - how do I deliver it to you? > > Hmmm. Having the bookmarks is kind of cool...the main problem is that > > they'd disappear the next time someone re-generates the Handbook. > > A big reason we don't have PDF bookmarks in the Handbook, BTW, is due > to some limitations in the document-building toolchain (basically, > it'd hard for us to build PDF renditions of big documents). It'd be > great if we could fix these, but this is easier said than done. :-p > > Thanks! > > Bruce. > > > I've really been tossing the entire pdf build around, and wonder if there is any way we could work around these `limitations' in a better way than what is currently applied. I'll dig deeper into this at a later date, currently I have other things which require my attention... *shrug* -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 13 12: 6:51 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7796337B401 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 12:06:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from pasmtp.tele.dk (pasmtp.tele.dk [193.162.159.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB2243ED8 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 12:06:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hektor@newz.dk) Received: from newz.dk (cpe.atm2-0-54276.0x50a1d5e2.hrnxx6.customer.tele.dk [80.161.213.226]) by pasmtp.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84AF8B4ED for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:06:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3E231D88.4080903@newz.dk> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:11:52 +0100 From: Martin Schou User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en, da MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PDF-version of the FreeBSD handbook References: <3E22A93C.302@newz.dk> <200301131933.h0DJXtu2095519@intruder.bmah.org> In-Reply-To: <200301131933.h0DJXtu2095519@intruder.bmah.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Martin Schou wrote: > >>I've taken the liberty of adding bookmarks to the pdf-file, and I am >>wondering if you would be interested in the "new and improved" version >>of the handbook, and if so - how do I deliver it to you? > > Hmmm. Having the bookmarks is kind of cool...the main problem is that > they'd disappear the next time someone re-generates the Handbook. > > A big reason we don't have PDF bookmarks in the Handbook, BTW, is due to > some limitations in the document-building toolchain (basically, it'd > hard for us to build PDF renditions of big documents). It'd be great if > we could fix these, but this is easier said than done. :-p > > Thanks! > > Bruce. Well, it didn't take me more than what ... 1, maybe 2 hours to add the bookmarks, so it's not like it was a big deal. Haven't gotten around to inserting blank pages, so that chapters start on even numbers making them more fit for printing and seperating them with those binder "tabs" for easy indexing, but that can't take more than a few minutes though. What I'm getting at, is that it wouldn't be that big a deal for me to keep it updated (providing it doesn't go through a release every week of course) :-) -- /-Martin Schou To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 13 18:18:48 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413BF37B401 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:18:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2153343E4A for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:18:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b221.otenet.gr [212.205.244.229]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0E2Ieb1001646; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 04:18:42 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0E2IdQH006563; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 04:18:39 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0E2Ido4006562; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 04:18:39 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 04:18:39 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Martin Schou Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PDF-version of the FreeBSD handbook Message-ID: <20030114021839.GA6455@gothmog.gr> References: <3E22A93C.302@newz.dk> <200301131933.h0DJXtu2095519@intruder.bmah.org> <3E231D88.4080903@newz.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E231D88.4080903@newz.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2003-01-13 21:11, hektor@newz.dk (Martin Schou) wrote: > Bruce A. Mah wrote: > >If memory serves me right, Martin Schou wrote: > >>I've taken the liberty of adding bookmarks to the pdf-file, and I am > >>wondering if you would be interested in the "new and improved" version > >>of the handbook, and if so - how do I deliver it to you? > > > >Hmmm. Having the bookmarks is kind of cool...the main problem is that > >they'd disappear the next time someone re-generates the Handbook. > > > >A big reason we don't have PDF bookmarks in the Handbook, BTW, is due to > >some limitations in the document-building toolchain (basically, it'd > >hard for us to build PDF renditions of big documents). It'd be great if > >we could fix these, but this is easier said than done. :-p > > Well, it didn't take me more than what ... 1, maybe 2 hours to add the > bookmarks, so it's not like it was a big deal. Haven't gotten around to > inserting blank pages, so that chapters start on even numbers making > them more fit for printing and seperating them with those binder "tabs" > for easy indexing, but that can't take more than a few minutes though. > > What I'm getting at, is that it wouldn't be that big a deal for me to > keep it updated (providing it doesn't go through a release every week of > course) :-) This is exactly the reasn why Bruce said we need to integrate the bookmark creation stuff with the current build process. The entire documentation is rebuilt several times within a single day. You'd have to work 24/7 and 365 days a year to keep the bookmarks updated after every build! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 13 22:59: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA85937B401 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:59:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A9DF643EB2 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:59:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 19221 invoked by uid 10); 14 Jan 2003 06:58:53 -0000 Received: from nathan.internal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0E6sLWi090272 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 07:54:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ue@nathan.internal) Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0E6sLD8090271 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 07:54:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 07:54:21 +0100 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0 release docs (including patch for review) Message-ID: <20030114065420.GH66579@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20030110124620.GB91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301101643.h0AGh3cO028415@intruder.bmah.org> <200301102123.h0ALNFIf031693@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110221508.GE91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301110435.h0B4Zbx5038652@intruder.bmah.org> <20030111172153.GA375@straylight.oblivion.bg> <200301111736.h0BHaxph047160@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112103609.GC371@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030112141819.GC66579@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301121620.h0CGKJT1060605@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200301121620.h0CGKJT1060605@intruder.bmah.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi, On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 08:20:19AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > On both the en_US and de_DE Web sites, it looks to me like the release > documentation pages reference the html-split files, not html. So don't > you mean to get rid of html? I have taken a longer look (after cleaning my glasses :>) and the only place where the the web site and/or the regular documentation uses /relnotes/CURRENT is within www/{,de/,fr/}relnotes.sgml. > (Gratuitous comment: I don't like html-split for the release > documentation because it's too hard to do intra-document searches. But > that's an issue for another time.) As I wrote earlier, I agree wholeheartedly :) The attached patch makes relnotes.sgml use the non-split version and installs only the non-split version. Comments? BTW, I just noticed that we will need to do some additional work in this area: Right now, we only create and install the release notes for RELENG_4 and HEAD; in the future, we will have to create and install the release notes for RELENG_5... /s/Udo -- Mit etwas weniger Microsoft ging das alles gleich viel besser --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=relnotesdiff Index: relnotes.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/relnotes.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.7 diff -u -r1.7 relnotes.sgml --- relnotes.sgml 10 Nov 2002 01:55:27 -0000 1.7 +++ relnotes.sgml 14 Jan 2003 06:46:09 -0000 @@ -62,48 +62,48 @@ -CURRENT:

The following documentation files are available for FreeBSD 4-STABLE:

Other Sites

Index: relnotes/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/relnotes/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 Makefile --- relnotes/Makefile 29 Oct 2001 10:14:32 -0000 1.5 +++ relnotes/Makefile 14 Jan 2003 06:46:21 -0000 @@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ webname=$$1; shift; realpath=$$1; shift; \ (unset DESTDIR || true; \ cd $$realpath && ${MAKE} \ - FORMATS=html\ html-split \ + FORMATS=html \ DOCDIR=${DESTDIR}/data/${.CURDIR:T}/$$webname \ DOC_PREFIX=${.CURDIR}/../../../doc \ DIRPRFX=${.CURDIR:T}/$$webname/ \ --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 13 23: 8:59 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83B437B401 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 23:08:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77DCE43F1E for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 23:08:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 19570 invoked by uid 10); 14 Jan 2003 07:08:54 -0000 Received: from nathan.internal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0E73tWi096706; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 08:03:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ue@nathan.internal) Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0E73tL1096705; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 08:03:55 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 08:03:55 +0100 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org, Peter Pentchev Subject: Merge id attribute addition to RELENG_5_0/RELENG_4? Message-ID: <20030114070355.GI66579@nathan.ruhr.de> Reply-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Peter Pentchev References: <200301121827.h0CIR4qq061837@repoman.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200301121827.h0CIR4qq061837@repoman.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, first of all: thanks for the work and it is a good thing that we now have the attributes. That being said, should we merge the relnotes NG part of this change into the RELENG_5_0 and RELENG_4 branches? /s/Udo -- Abandon the search for Truth; settle for a good fantasy. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 13 23:37: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C9837B405 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 23:37:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (office.sbnd.net [217.75.140.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D274F43E4A for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 23:37:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 82706 invoked by uid 1000); 14 Jan 2003 07:36:12 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 09:36:12 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Merge id attribute addition to RELENG_5_0/RELENG_4? Message-ID: <20030114073611.GF372@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org References: <200301121827.h0CIR4qq061837@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030114070355.GI66579@nathan.ruhr.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aZoGpuMECXJckB41" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030114070355.GI66579@nathan.ruhr.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --aZoGpuMECXJckB41 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 08:03:55AM +0100, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > Hi, > first of all: thanks for the work and it is a good thing that we now have > the attributes. That being said, should we merge the relnotes NG part of > this change into the RELENG_5_0 and RELENG_4 branches? Heh.. I was actually about to ask -doc about merging to RELENG_5_0 as soon as I had finished reading my e-mail this morning :) So... Is this something that we should ask -doc or re@ about? G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 No language can express every thought unambiguously, least of all this one. --aZoGpuMECXJckB41 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+I73r7Ri2jRYZRVMRApE9AKC02564Y1MX12gSToVlp20h+xCqqACgg3B1 USk8Yx61ZasdBaDOkihhr40= =F5tU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aZoGpuMECXJckB41-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 14 1:48:58 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB5237B40A for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 01:48:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D57F743F13 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 01:48:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 26475 invoked by uid 10); 14 Jan 2003 09:48:50 -0000 Received: from nathan.internal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0E9kGWi001026; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:46:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ue@nathan.internal) Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0E9kGai001025; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:46:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:46:16 +0100 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: Peter Pentchev Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, re@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Merge id attribute addition to RELENG_5_0/RELENG_4? Message-ID: <20030114094616.GJ66579@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: Peter Pentchev , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, re@freebsd.org References: <200301121827.h0CIR4qq061837@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030114070355.GI66579@nathan.ruhr.de> <20030114073611.GF372@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030114073611.GF372@straylight.oblivion.bg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 09:36:12AM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > Heh.. I was actually about to ask -doc about merging to RELENG_5_0 > as soon as I had finished reading my e-mail this morning :) great minds think alike ;) > So... Is this something that we should ask -doc or re@ about? 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In-Reply-To: <20030114094616.GJ66579@nathan.ruhr.de> References: <200301121827.h0CIR4qq061837@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030114070355.GI66579@nathan.ruhr.de> <20030114073611.GF372@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030114094616.GJ66579@nathan.ruhr.de> Comments: In-reply-to Udo Erdelhoff message dated "Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:46:16 +0100." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-743491936P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 09:11:28 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-743491936P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 09:36:12AM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > Heh.. I was actually about to ask -doc about merging to RELENG_5_0 > > as soon as I had finished reading my e-mail this morning :) > > great minds think alike ;) > > > So... Is this something that we should ask -doc or re@ about? > > You will need re@ approval in any case to change the en_US version, > I fortunately still have blanket approval for all things de_DE ;) Approved. Bruce. --==_Exmh_-743491936P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 iD8DBQE+JETA2MoxcVugUsMRAiuSAJ9oE4Sh2AONe3tUO15zzJCN5BMNeQCcCgG3 VMc9jGkMiMnnBlMA7NZprSM= =fVCH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-743491936P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 14 10:11:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACEB37B401; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:11:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (eos.ocn.ne.jp [211.6.83.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E5F43F5F; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:11:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (p54212-adsao12honb4-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [220.96.136.212]) by smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2822733F8; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:11:11 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by mail.allbsd.org (8.12.3/3.7W/DomainMaster) with ESMTP id h0EI7nB3059915; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:07:50 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:06:28 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20030115.030628.102515993.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> To: bmah@FreeBSD.org, ue@FreeBSD.org, gioria@FreeBSD.org Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: typo in src/UPDATING and RELENG_4 relnotes From: Hiroki Sato X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 2.2 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="--Next_Part(Wed_Jan_15_03:06:28_2003_628)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----Next_Part(Wed_Jan_15_03:06:28_2003_628)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I noticed there is a typo (s/stdio/stdin/) in src/UPDATING 1.73.2.76, and relnotes (en, de, fr) for RELENG_4 based on it. Could I commit the attached patch? -- | Hiroki SATO ----Next_Part(Wed_Jan_15_03:06:28_2003_628)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline; filename="stdio_stdin.diff" Index: src/UPDATING =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/UPDATING,v retrieving revision 1.73.2.76 diff -d -u -I\$FreeBSD:.*\$ -I\$Id:.*\$ -I\$hrs:.*\$ -r1.73.2.76 UPDATI= NG --- src/UPDATING 20 Nov 2002 16:56:45 -0000 1.73.2.76 +++ src/UPDATING 14 Jan 2003 17:51:10 -0000 @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ -current prior to 4.0 Release. = 20021110: - The definitions of the standard file streams (stdio, stdout, and + The definitions of the standard file streams (stdin, stdout, and stderr) have changed so that they are no longer compile-time = constants. Some older binaries may require updated 3.X = compatability libraries (for example, by setting COMPAT3X=3Dyes = Index: src/release/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common/new.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common/ne= w.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.1.2.18 diff -d -u -I\$FreeBSD:.*\$ -I\$Id:.*\$ -I\$hrs:.*\$ -r1.1.2.18 new.sgm= l --- src/release/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common/new.sgml 11 Jan 200= 3 18:23:18 -0000 1.1.2.18 +++ src/release/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common/new.sgml 14 Jan 200= 3 17:51:56 -0000 @@ -270,7 +270,7 @@ = = La d=E9finition des flux syst=E8mes standards - (stdio, stdout, et + (stdin, stdout, et stderr) a chang=E9, ils ne sont donc plus des= constantes lors de la compilation. Certains anciens binaires n=E9cessitent une mise =E0 jour des librairies de compatibilit=E9= 3.X ----Next_Part(Wed_Jan_15_03:06:28_2003_628)---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 14 10:16: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D7137B401; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:16:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CBB43F1E; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:16:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02) with ESMTP id <2003011418160300200mo1lde>; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:16:03 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0EIG1A8019959; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:16:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0EIG12j019958; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:16:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301141816.h0EIG12j019958@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5+ 20021120 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Hiroki Sato Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, ue@FreeBSD.ORG, gioria@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: typo in src/UPDATING and RELENG_4 relnotes In-Reply-To: <20030115.030628.102515993.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> References: <20030115.030628.102515993.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> Comments: In-reply-to Hiroki Sato message dated "Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:06:28 +0900." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-549322516P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:16:01 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-549322516P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Hiroki Sato wrote: > I noticed there is a typo (s/stdio/stdin/) in > src/UPDATING 1.73.2.76, and relnotes (en, de, fr) for RELENG_4 based on it. > > Could I commit the attached patch? You don't need approval for src/UPDATING or the en relnotes, so I'd say just go ahead with those (not sure how the de or fr folks want to handle tracking the change). It looks OK, to me...good catch. Thanks! 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OZNTVWTOLCRENBJKYVSDVXXXJJZSHJYLWGLSCO To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 14 12:20:15 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FE637B401 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:20:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92BC43ED8 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:20:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0EKKBNS033027 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:20:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0EKKBe1033026; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D340637B405 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2603443F43 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:19:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with ESMTP id <20030114201911003006186ae>; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:19:11 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0EKOIm9034741 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:24:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h0EKOD2e034738; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:24:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Message-Id: <6jof6jv5si.f6j@localhost.localdomain> Date: 14 Jan 2003 12:24:13 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@attbi.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: docs/47085: boot(8) manpage is incomplete according to "Bugs". Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 47085 >Category: docs >Synopsis: boot(8) manpage is incomplete according to "Bugs". >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jan 14 12:20:11 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.7 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The boot(8) manpage's "Bugs" section has this note: "Some features are not yet documented." (This PR should stay open until that statement has been removed. A manpage either deserves an open PR for needed improvement or it should go without saying (in the manpage) that the manpage (esp. one like "boot") is incomplete. An exception is made for obsolete features, which probably should have their existence noted (at least).) ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Document the features or remove the note. I recommend removing the note by patching this: .\" $FreeBSD: src/sbin/reboot/boot_i386.8,v 1.23.2.11 2002/04/24 17:47:58 rnordier Exp $ with this: --- /pr/work/boot..orig.8 Tue Jan 14 12:21:12 2003 +++ /pr/work/boot.8 Tue Jan 14 12:21:47 2003 @@ -334,5 +334,3 @@ .Dq XT/AT keyboard (with no F11 and F12 keys, etc.) is attached, the probe will fail. -.Pp -Some features are not yet documented. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 14 12:20:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E7237B401; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:20:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from chat.ru (234.230.168.66.in-addr.arpa [66.168.230.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F9FE43EB2; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:20:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tcxwet@rambler.ru) From: Aron Subject: free-call Reply-To: tcxwet@rambler.ru X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:18:52 +0300 Message-Id: <20030114202015.6F9FE43EB2@mx1.FreeBSD.org> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Здравствуйте Сколько вы платите за мобильный телефон ?? 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 14 14:49: 0 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C90337B401 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 14:48:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A9AA743F5F for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 14:48:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 28565 invoked by uid 10); 14 Jan 2003 22:48:50 -0000 Received: from nathan.internal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0EMksWi006751; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:46:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ue@nathan.internal) Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0EMkrhS006750; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:46:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:46:53 +0100 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Hiroki Sato , ue@FreeBSD.ORG, gioria@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: typo in src/UPDATING and RELENG_4 relnotes Message-ID: <20030114224652.GK66579@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: "Bruce A. Mah" , Hiroki Sato , ue@FreeBSD.ORG, gioria@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20030115.030628.102515993.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> <200301141816.h0EIG12j019958@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200301141816.h0EIG12j019958@intruder.bmah.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 10:16:01AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > You don't need approval for src/UPDATING or the en relnotes, I thought Warner threatened violence to anybody who touched UPDATING without running the change by him. > (not sure how the de or fr folks want to handle tracking the change). Just add it to the repository now, I will insert the change into the DE repository and then sync everything the next time I work on the time. /s/Udo -- Ich will keinen erzieherischen Wert, ich will Tote. [Lars Marowsky-Bree in de.alt.sysadmin.recovery] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 14 18:15:45 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B3C37B401; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:15:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A0243F7C; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:15:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02) with ESMTP id <2003011502154000200mis9ce>; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:15:40 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0F2FeA8027414; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:15:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0F2FdmC027413; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:15:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301150215.h0F2FdmC027413@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5+ 20021120 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Udo Erdelhoff Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Hiroki Sato , ue@FreeBSD.ORG, gioria@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: typo in src/UPDATING and RELENG_4 relnotes In-Reply-To: <20030114224652.GK66579@nathan.ruhr.de> References: <20030115.030628.102515993.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> <200301141816.h0EIG12j019958@intruder.bmah.org> <20030114224652.GK66579@nathan.ruhr.de> Comments: In-reply-to Udo Erdelhoff message dated "Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:46:53 +0100." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1007737386P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:15:39 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-1007737386P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 10:16:01AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > You don't need approval for src/UPDATING or the en relnotes, > > I thought Warner threatened violence to anybody who touched UPDATING > without running the change by him. I had thought that he'd backed off on that, and I've seen commits that to UPDATING without "Approved by:" lines. Double-checking can't hurt, however. Bruce. --==_Exmh_-1007737386P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 iD8DBQE+JMRL2MoxcVugUsMRAkg+AKC2rs7ABUyecn/TzGHdjz+67et3SQCgjyHD bNfi8dE5fYs2N8BVQ5WwZmU= =bjme -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1007737386P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 14 18:20: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D0137B401 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5788043F1E for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0F2K2NS042111 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0F2K2kg042110; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152D537B401 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:10:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw01.cac.co.jp (gw01.cac.co.jp [160.240.112.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F7B43EB2 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:10:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from koich@cac.co.jp) Received: from gw03.vw.cac.co.jp ([160.240.128.104]) by gw01.cac.co.jp (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0F2AmS03242; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:10:48 +0900 Received: from cacnet.cac.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw03.vw.cac.co.jp (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W) with ESMTP id LAA21247; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:10:37 +0900 (JST) Received: from abel.cac.co.jp ([160.240.137.1]) by cacnet.cac.co.jp (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W) with ESMTP id LAA13716; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:10:40 +0900 (JST) Received: from abel.cac.co.jp (abel [127.0.0.1]) by abel.cac.co.jp (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0F29L3E085345; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:09:21 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from koich@abel.cac.co.jp) Received: (from koich@localhost) by abel.cac.co.jp (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0F29LGh085344; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:09:21 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from koich) Message-Id: <200301150209.h0F29LGh085344@abel.cac.co.jp> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:09:21 +0900 (JST) From: SUZUKI Koichi Reply-To: SUZUKI Koichi To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/47092: [PATCH] missing dot for macro Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 47092 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] missing dot for macro >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jan 14 18:20:01 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: SUZUKI Koichi >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT >Organization: jpman Project >Environment: >Description: I found a typo in passwd.5 (rev.1.39). I think a dot is needed, and this is what it's supposed to be. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- passwd.5.eng5.orig Mon Jan 13 13:57:51 2003 +++ passwd.5.eng5 Mon Jan 13 10:52:35 2003 @@ -323,7 +323,7 @@ User information should (and eventually will) be stored elsewhere. .Pp Placing -Sq compat +.Sq compat exclusions in the file after any inclusions will have unexpected results. .Sh COMPATIBILITY >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 14 19:10: 4 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4398137B401 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FEF43F1E for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0F3A1NS054077 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0F3A1o8054076; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B80A37B401 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:09:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from invert.com (datacenterops.com [209.164.15.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BD743F6B for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:09:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mee@invert.com) Received: (from mee@localhost) by invert.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id h0F39aP64680; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:09:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mee) Message-Id: <200301150309.h0F39aP64680@invert.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:09:36 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Erickson Reply-To: Mike Erickson To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/47093: FTP(1) man page correction Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 47093 >Category: docs >Synopsis: FTP(1) man page correction >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jan 14 19:10:01 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mike Erickson >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD invert.com 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #1: Sat Nov 16 21:33:55 PST 2002 jburke@invert.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/INVERT i386 >Description: The man page for FTP says that it is not in passive mode by default. This is incorrect. the client defaults to passive mode operation. >How-To-Repeat: Lines 620-1 of ftp.1 read: passive Toggle passive mode. If passive mode is turned on (default is off), the ftp client will send a PASV command for all data >Fix: Change the above so say that the default is on. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 14 19:48:44 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA69937B401 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:48:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from tigerdyr.wheel.dk (tigerdyr.wheel.dk [62.242.234.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0C043E4A for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:48:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlk@tigerdyr.wheel.dk) Received: by tigerdyr.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 012AA20D9D; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 04:48:41 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 04:48:41 +0100 From: "Thomas L. Kjeldsen" To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD 4.2: KERNCONF or KERNEL Message-ID: <20030115034841.GD31355@tigerdyr.wheel.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, citing from [1] as of Wed Jan 15 04:40:20 CET 2003: "Note: In FreeBSD 4.2 and older you must replace KERNCONF= with KERNEL=. 4.2-STABLE that was fetched after Feb 2nd, 2001 does recognize KERNCONF=." I'm not sure about the last sentence. I guess it should have been "before Feb 2nd" and not "after Feb 2nd", or .. am I wrong? It's not that I need to know, I just wondered what the meaning actually was :-) [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html regards, Thomas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 14 21:31:40 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7BA37B401 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:31:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B5F43F6B for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:31:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with ESMTP id <2003011505313600100hmvufe>; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 05:31:36 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0F5VYA8029542; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:31:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0F5VYtR029541; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:31:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301150531.h0F5VYtR029541@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5+ 20021120 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Udo Erdelhoff Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.0 release docs (including patch for review) In-Reply-To: <20030114065420.GH66579@nathan.ruhr.de> References: <20030110124620.GB91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301101643.h0AGh3cO028415@intruder.bmah.org> <200301102123.h0ALNFIf031693@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110221508.GE91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301110435.h0B4Zbx5038652@intruder.bmah.org> <20030111172153.GA375@straylight.oblivion.bg> <200301111736.h0BHaxph047160@intruder.bmah.org> <20030112103609.GC371@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030112141819.GC66579@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301121620.h0CGKJT1060605@intruder.bmah.org> <20030114065420.GH66579@nathan.ruhr.de> Comments: In-reply-to Udo Erdelhoff message dated "Tue, 14 Jan 2003 07:54:21 +0100." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-148795716P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:31:34 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-148795716P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 08:20:19AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > On both the en_US and de_DE Web sites, it looks to me like the release > > documentation pages reference the html-split files, not html. So don't > > you mean to get rid of html? > > I have taken a longer look (after cleaning my glasses :>) and the only > place where the the web site and/or the regular documentation uses > /relnotes/CURRENT is within www/{,de/,fr/}relnotes.sgml. OK. This kind of matches what I thought was going on. > > (Gratuitous comment: I don't like html-split for the release > > documentation because it's too hard to do intra-document searches. But > > that's an issue for another time.) > > As I wrote earlier, I agree wholeheartedly :) The attached patch makes > relnotes.sgml use the non-split version and installs only the non-split > version. Comments? I didn't try building with this patch, but it looks pretty reasonable and sane to me. > BTW, I just noticed that we will need to do some additional work > in this area: Right now, we only create and install the release > notes for RELENG_4 and HEAD; in the future, we will have to create > and install the release notes for RELENG_5... Yep. But that's at least one release away. :-) Bruce. --==_Exmh_-148795716P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 iD8DBQE+JPI12MoxcVugUsMRAuqKAKDIfo1UPp3A+lNWrxV8qU67dqt9AwCeIScq UzC3xY360ufqAQo7sdATlSA= =X5YH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-148795716P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 15 0:21:59 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7746137B401; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5682243E4A; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:21:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a050.otenet.gr [212.205.215.50]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0F8Lqxc004519; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:21:54 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0F8Lq3p099209; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:21:52 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0F8Lq2c099208; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:21:52 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:21:52 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Udo Erdelhoff , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: typo in src/UPDATING and RELENG_4 relnotes Message-ID: <20030115082152.GA99094@gothmog.gr> References: <20030115.030628.102515993.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> <200301141816.h0EIG12j019958@intruder.bmah.org> <20030114224652.GK66579@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301150215.h0F2FdmC027413@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200301150215.h0F2FdmC027413@intruder.bmah.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2003-01-14 18:15, bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) wrote: > If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 10:16:01AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > You don't need approval for src/UPDATING or the en relnotes, > > > > I thought Warner threatened violence to anybody who touched UPDATING > > without running the change by him. > > I had thought that he'd backed off on that, and I've seen commits > that to UPDATING without "Approved by:" lines. Double-checking > can't hurt, however. Indeed. I am one of those who have committed stuff to UPDATING too after having a review from the proper src committer (rev. 1.229 was a sparc64 related changed that I added after asking tmm for it). Warner doesn't keep a hard lock on UPDATING anymore. - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 15 0:26: 4 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01FA337B401; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:26:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DE343F43; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:26:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (keramida@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0F8Q3NS089959; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:26:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0F8Q2YJ089955; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:26:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:26:02 -0800 (PST) From: Giorgos Keramidas Message-Id: <200301150826.h0F8Q2YJ089955@freefall.freebsd.org> To: koich@cac.co.jp, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/47092: [PATCH] missing dot for macro Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] missing dot for macro State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Wed Jan 15 00:25:01 PST 2003 State-Changed-Why: Nice catch! Fixed. Thank you :) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Jan 15 00:25:01 PST 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=47092 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 15 0:40:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A3137B686 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:40:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C3E43EB2 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:40:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0F8eBNS090483 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:40:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0F8eBXf090482; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:40:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:40:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301150840.h0F8eBXf090482@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/47093: FTP(1) man page correction Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/47093; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: bug-followup@freebsd.org Cc: Mike Erickson Subject: Re: docs/47093: FTP(1) man page correction Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:32:11 +0200 On 2003-01-14 19:09, mee@invert.com (Mike Erickson) wrote: > The man page for FTP says that it is not in passive mode by default. > This is incorrect. The client defaults to passive mode operation. This is partly correct. In /etc/login.conf FTP_PASSIVE_MODE is set to YES, but running ftp(1) without changes in the environment shows that: giorgos@gothmog[10:27]/home/giorgos$ ftp ftp> pass Passive mode: off; fallback to active mode: off. ftp> epsv4 EPSV/EPRT on IPv4 off. It seems off by default :-( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 15 0:40:17 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B131A37B6F9 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:40:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A34B43F3F for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:40:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0F8eDNS090492 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:40:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0F8eDT4090491; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:40:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:40:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301150840.h0F8eDT4090491@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Mike Erickson Subject: Re: docs/47093: FTP(1) man page correction Reply-To: Mike Erickson Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/47093; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Mike Erickson To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org, Mike Erickson Subject: Re: docs/47093: FTP(1) man page correction Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:36:24 -0800 * Giorgos Keramidas (keramida@freebsd.org) wrote: > On 2003-01-14 19:09, mee@invert.com (Mike Erickson) wrote: > > The man page for FTP says that it is not in passive mode by default. > > This is incorrect. The client defaults to passive mode operation. > > This is partly correct. In /etc/login.conf FTP_PASSIVE_MODE is set to > YES, but running ftp(1) without changes in the environment shows that: > > giorgos@gothmog[10:27]/home/giorgos$ ftp > ftp> pass > Passive mode: off; fallback to active mode: off. > ftp> epsv4 > EPSV/EPRT on IPv4 off. > > It seems off by default :-( Ah, That explains the behavior. I forgot to check my environment first. Sorry about that. mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 15 0:41:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFD237B401 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:41:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C47F43F7E for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:41:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a050.otenet.gr [212.205.215.50]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0F8f4xc009553; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:41:05 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0F8f33p099585; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:41:03 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0F8f3H2099584; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:41:03 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:41:03 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Thomas L. Kjeldsen" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.2: KERNCONF or KERNEL Message-ID: <20030115084103.GC99094@gothmog.gr> References: <20030115034841.GD31355@tigerdyr.wheel.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030115034841.GD31355@tigerdyr.wheel.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2003-01-15 04:48, tlk@mayi.dk (Thomas L. Kjeldsen) wrote: > Hi, citing from [1] as of Wed Jan 15 04:40:20 CET 2003: > > "Note: In FreeBSD 4.2 and older you must replace KERNCONF= with KERNEL=. > 4.2-STABLE that was fetched after Feb 2nd, 2001 does recognize > KERNCONF=." > > I'm not sure about the last sentence. I guess it should have been > "before Feb 2nd" and not "after Feb 2nd", or .. am I wrong? True. Fixed now. Thanks :) > It's not that I need to know, I just wondered what the meaning > actually was :-) > > [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 15 4:31: 9 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FBE37B401 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 04:31:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f133.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.21.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF6C43F7E for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 04:31:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bootsons_here@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 04:19:31 -0800 Received: from 212.219.59.228 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:19:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.219.59.228] From: "scott watson" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: about freeBSD Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:19:30 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2003 12:19:31.0097 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B2FD890:01C2BC90] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i am choosing to use freeBSD for my school project and was wondering why i should choose freeBSD over windows 95/98 also i am trying to make my PC for a partially sighted person. what advantages does freeBSD have for that type of person. yours faithfully scott watson. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 15 7:42:34 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCB337B401; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 07:42:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (eos.ocn.ne.jp [211.6.83.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0ECC43F6D; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 07:42:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (p54212-adsao12honb4-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [220.96.136.212]) by smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4832A1F; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:42:31 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by mail.allbsd.org (8.12.3/3.7W/DomainMaster) with ESMTP id h0FFCmB2063544; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:12:49 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:12:01 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20030116.001201.108797632.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> To: ue@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, gioria@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: typo in src/UPDATING and RELENG_4 relnotes From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20030114224652.GK66579@nathan.ruhr.de> References: <20030115.030628.102515993.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> <200301141816.h0EIG12j019958@intruder.bmah.org> <20030114224652.GK66579@nathan.ruhr.de> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 2.2 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Udo Erdelhoff wrote in <20030114224652.GK66579@nathan.ruhr.de>: ue> > (not sure how the de or fr folks want to handle tracking the change). ue> ue> Just add it to the repository now, I will insert the change into the ue> DE repository and then sync everything the next time I work on the ue> time. Committed. I leave the rest (de, fr) to the maintainers, thank you. -- | Hiroki SATO To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 15 10:10:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CEA37B405 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:10:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74BC43F3F for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:10:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0FIA8NS069347 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:10:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0FIA8SQ069346; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:10:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EBE37B401 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A0C43EB2 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:07:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52) with ESMTP id <20030115180746052008tesde>; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:07:46 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0FI6om9084313 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:06:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h0FI6jtS084310; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:06:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Message-Id: Date: 15 Jan 2003 10:06:45 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@attbi.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: docs/47114: chmod(1) manpage is wrong about -vv behavior. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 47114 >Category: docs >Synopsis: chmod(1) manpage is wrong about -vv behavior. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jan 15 10:10:08 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The chmod(1) manpage's -v description says that the option can be used more than once for some special behavior, while the program doesn't care how many times you use it. (Confirmed by looking at "/usr/src/bin/chmod/chmod.c".) The -v description says the verbosity occurs "as the mode is modified", which is easily mis-interpreted to mean "as the mode is set" or "as the command processes the file". ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: 1) Remove the offending sentence. 2) Make the verbosity switch description more verbose. Patch this: .\" $FreeBSD: src/bin/chmod/chmod.1,v 1.17.2.12 2002/09/18 23:40:35 trhodes Exp $ with this: --- /pr/work/chmod..orig.1 Tue Jan 14 15:55:43 2003 +++ /pr/work/chmod.1 Tue Jan 14 16:12:24 2003 @@ -89,11 +89,8 @@ .It Fl v Cause .Nm -to be verbose, showing filenames as the mode is modified. -If the -.Fl v -flag is specified more than once, the old and new modes of the file -will also be printed, in both octal and symbolic notation. +to be verbose, which means that filenames +are output (to stdout) if the mode changes. .El .Pp The >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 15 11:50:40 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5282A37B401 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:50:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B3B43EB2 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:50:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51) with ESMTP id <2003011519503805100pnq51e>; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 19:50:38 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0FJobA8039110; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:50:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0FJob0Y039109; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:50:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301151950.h0FJob0Y039109@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5+ 20021120 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Udo Erdelhoff Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADSUP: doc/ tree tagging In-Reply-To: <20030110221508.GE91718@nathan.ruhr.de> References: <200301100535.h0A5Zqn3023272@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110124620.GB91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301101643.h0AGh3cO028415@intruder.bmah.org> <200301102123.h0ALNFIf031693@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110221508.GE91718@nathan.ruhr.de> Comments: In-reply-to Udo Erdelhoff message dated "Fri, 10 Jan 2003 23:15:08 +0100." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1399464534P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:50:37 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-1399464534P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > > This info from the RE telecon earlier today: The plan is to proceed > > with tagging doc/ on Monday 13 January. > > Monday 13th PST right? Which means that the tagging will not take place > before something like 0900 CET. Good, that gives me a time frame. Clearly that didn't happen, but the delay allowed us get in some other changes such as the sect1 id attributes. I'm going to lay down the RELEASE_5_0_0 tag for doc/ about 2 PM (California time) today (that's 2200 hours GMT). (FYI, Scott Long will tag src/ later today.) Bruce. --==_Exmh_-1399464534P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 iD8DBQE+JbuN2MoxcVugUsMRAqT0AJ9RZ7ajz2LNHxQrZ2hxowtwCnzUIwCgyau+ pEzeY4m+2n1jSXkP6TFR4a4= =nr11 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1399464534P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 15 12: 5: 3 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADB437B401 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:04:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from seaholm.caamora.com.au (seaholm.caamora.com.au [203.7.226.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B8543F3F for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:04:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@seaholm.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by seaholm.caamora.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id h0FK4eZ16289; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:04:40 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <20030116070440.53982@caamora.com.au> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:04:40 +1100 From: jonathan michaels To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: about freeBSD References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from scott watson on Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 12:19:30PM +0000 Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 12:19:30PM +0000, scott watson wrote: > > i am choosing to use freeBSD for my school project and was wondering why i > should choose freeBSD over windows 95/98 also i am trying to make my PC for > a partially sighted person. what advantages does freeBSD have for that type > of person. i an mot blind, so i suppose i rate as partially sighted. i am a disabled man, i am in receipt of my countries "invalid pension" so i am unemployable. part of my disabilities realte to neurological damage that is now affecting my sight far more seriously than it once did. my credential. to answer your question, as asked, stay with a suitable microsoft windows environment for the required hardware platform, or if you can find a resale copy of ibm os/2 warp connect. this will have all teh stuff needed for tcp/ip and internetworking that will be required by most people short of systems developers, while providing a good and workable platform for the partially sighted, the blind and those with other incapacities, etc, etc. having said that ... freebsd, out of teh box, is all but user hostile to viretually any person wheo dose not have all but 100 percent controll of ll of tehier capacities/capabilities call it what you will. sadly on teh ocassions that i have tried to raise these issue the only thing more hostile that freebsd it self was teh reception by several people within teh "ruling clique" or the so called elite of the choock run. i have been looking at trying to make a workable environement for those with my kind of skills and physiological requirements and presidposition. i have been forced to use x11 to overlay the standard freebsd environemnt. sadly this mix of freebsd bloat, sorry progress, and the "gui tax" that is imposed by having to use a graphical environment such as x11 is making it harder and harder to use on that class of hardware that people such as myslef can afford and have the usage off when we sit down to work at our computers ... mainly 386/486 class processors with 8 or if lucky 16 mb of system dram and hard disks that are smaller than what most people use as system dram these days. getting back to the question, it is hard very hard to coax a usable environment out of the current freebsd/x11 mix because most of teh packages/tools/software is being built by people who have no awareness of what the basic ergonomic requirements of a well functioning physiologically intact person are ... then to take that and 'twist' it to somehow represent a package that is "suitable" for the "needs" of a person that has one defeceit ... two would be a nightmare of almost total exclusivity, in that you can have one, or the other but not both. i have been working very hard trying to read the documentation, all that is put out by the freebsd document project, untill recently i used a 12 inch vga monitor, suffice to say that it was actively enhancing the deterioration of my sight. a freind has recently given me a 21 inch paper white monitor (greyscale) and the difference is monumental, alsmost as much as the screen spce requirements on my already cramped desk, small inconviencences, fir the differences that it has made in my abilty to read. now all i need is a sony 21 inch colour screen and i can get to work being a graphic designer, its about the only thing that i can do thes days. i have a basic understanding of x11 and the mechanisms of teh freebsd display mechanism (virtual screen). so i am finding it tough going, to say teh least. to answer your question would require some more information, such as what sort of problems the person is having and what sort of daisplay hardware is being used, then the needs of teh environemnt would play a significant role in how you would have to tailor the freebsd/x11 mix. i may be a old fuddy dudy that still believes that it is not a mandatory requirement for an operating system to have a graphical shell, inspite of teh (in my opinion skewed) resutls from all of teh various studies and reports issued by the likes of microsoft and apple. this is a complex issue that would require some effort to resolve, sadly more than the glib answeres that have been offered in teh past in many of teh freebsd, et al, forum. there is no "simple" quick fix answer. but a lot of progress can be made by surveying the needs and setting some basic boundries along teh lines of teh available hardware, available budget and the skills (willingness to learn) of the individual concerned. in conclusion, shoving a gui platform on a 14 screen does not a suitable envoronment make ... depending on teh degree of 'sightedness' start with a good, ergo expensive, 21 inch screen. then, IF AND ONLY IF you have to and then as a LAST RESORT find a suitable go to as plain an x11 environment as is required to do teh job. sorry, for the lenght i could go on and on, this is a complex topic that has yet to be adequately discussed or documented in the freebsd users environment and or the documentation. if you wish to find more information go to www.w3.org and look up teh tags on teh welcome page to the "disabled" users sections, there are quite a few good sections on making www and therefore the desktop environment on the whole a much better place for all computer users not just us "part time vegies" (C) warm regards and best wishes jonathan surviver of 50 years with damaged brain, almost totally corrupted endocrine system, related neurolgical damage and significant musculoskeletal involvement as well - freebsd user since 2.0.5-release, still learning - slowly, one step, one day at a time). -- ================================================================ Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 ==== === appropriate solution in an inappropriate world === ==== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 15 16:17:46 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E418537B401 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:17:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F4543F13 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:17:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org 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<200301151950.h0FJob0Y039109@intruder.bmah.org> Comments: In-reply-to "Bruce A. Mah" message dated "Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:50:37 -0800." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-129742404P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:17:42 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-129742404P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I wrote: > I'm going to lay down the RELEASE_5_0_0 tag for doc/ about 2 PM > (California time) today (that's 2200 hours GMT). Tagging complete. A fresh checkout on the tag survived a build, so I'm pretty happy with that. It's fairly unlikely, but we *might* want to hold off on making huge changes to doc/ until after the 5.0-RELEASE builds are done, just in case I (or someone else on the RE team) needs to slide a tag for some reason. Thanks for your help and cooperation, everybody! 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Thank you for your time To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 15 17:40: 4 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0855B37B401 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A634A43F3F for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0G1e2NS019772 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0G1e2ZK019770; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:40:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301160140.h0G1e2ZK019770@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/47114: chmod(1) manpage is wrong about -vv behavior. Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/47114; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/47114: chmod(1) manpage is wrong about -vv behavior. Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 03:31:53 +0200 On 2003-01-15 10:06, swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) wrote: > The chmod(1) manpage's -v description says that the option can be used > more than once for some special behavior, while the program doesn't > care how many times you use it. (Confirmed by looking at > "/usr/src/bin/chmod/chmod.c".) Good catch! But you are obviously talking about chmod.c in the 4-STABLE branch. If you look at the source code of chmod.c in 5.0-CURRENT you will see the special behavior is there. > Patch this: > .\" $FreeBSD: src/bin/chmod/chmod.1,v 1.17.2.12 2002/09/18 23:40:35 trhodes Exp $ I think that the manpage is a result of an MFC (version 1.17.2.10 was the one that introduced the changes to chmod.1) which failed to update the source code too. IMHO, the best thing to do would be to keep the manpage as it is now and merge the chmod.c stuff too. What do you think? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 15 23:58:54 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB19C37B401 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:58:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C35C43ED8 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:58:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 10687 invoked by uid 10); 16 Jan 2003 07:58:49 -0000 Received: from nathan.internal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0G7s5Wi032219 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:54:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ue@nathan.internal) Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0G7s5iC032218 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:54:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:54:04 +0100 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADSUP: doc/ tree tagging Message-ID: <20030116075404.GD26360@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200301100535.h0A5Zqn3023272@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110124620.GB91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301101643.h0AGh3cO028415@intruder.bmah.org> <200301102123.h0ALNFIf031693@intruder.bmah.org> <20030110221508.GE91718@nathan.ruhr.de> <200301151950.h0FJob0Y039109@intruder.bmah.org> <200301160017.h0G0Hgpc055692@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200301160017.h0G0Hgpc055692@intruder.bmah.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 04:17:42PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > It's fairly unlikely, but we *might* want to hold off on making huge > changes to doc/ until after the 5.0-RELEASE builds are done, just in > case I (or someone else on the RE team) needs to slide a tag for some > reason. the big work on doc/ and src/release/doc/ will only start after the release has hit the streets and the bug reports start coming in. The weekend is going to be hectic :) /s/Udo -- There's more than one way to skin a cat: Way number 15 -- Krazy Glue and a toothbrush. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 16 0:30: 5 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8474D37B405 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BD343F65 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0G8U1NS050261 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0G8U1iA050260; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1293E37B401 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:29:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from cc.nsysu.edu.tw (mail.cc.nsysu.edu.tw [140.117.11.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BBF243F18 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:29:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhchen@elearning.nsysu.edu.tw) Received: (qmail 15486 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 16:29:54 +0800 Received: from unknown (HELO elearning.nsysu.edu.tw) (140.117.41.182) by mail.cc.nsysu.edu.tw with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 16:29:54 +0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elearning.nsysu.edu.tw (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C005EBF for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:29:53 +0800 (CST) Received: from elearning.nsysu.edu.tw ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (elearning.nsysu.edu.tw [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with SMTP id 55788-07 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:29:53 +0800 (CST) Received: by elearning.nsysu.edu.tw (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 7D3555ECA; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:29:53 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <20030116082953.7D3555ECA@elearning.nsysu.edu.tw> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:29:53 +0800 (CST) From: Reply-To: To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/47132: e-mail correction Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 47132 >Category: docs >Synopsis: e-mail correction >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jan 16 00:30:01 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD elearning.nsysu.edu.tw 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #0: Fri Jan 3 17:48:56 CST 2003 root@elearning.nsysu.edu.tw:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KM i386 >Description: In Additional Contributor's list, my email is old and unavailable So, change it to my main email I've never thought that I was enlisted in the Additional Contributor's list until I tried to search my id on Google :p >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml.old Thu Jan 16 16:23:42 2003 +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml Thu Jan 16 16:23:59 2003 @@ -2297,7 +2297,7 @@ Alex D. Chen - dhchen@Canvas.dorm7.nccu.edu.tw + dhchen@elearning.nsysu.edu.tw >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 16 3:10:36 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416DA37B401; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 03:10:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E3143EB2; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 03:10:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blackend@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (blackend@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0GBAZNS001755; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 03:10:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blackend@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from blackend@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0GBAZek001747; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 03:10:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 03:10:35 -0800 (PST) From: Marc Fonvieille Message-Id: <200301161110.h0GBAZek001747@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dhchen@elearning.nsysu.edu.tw, blackend@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/47132: e-mail correction Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: e-mail correction State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: blackend State-Changed-When: Thu Jan 16 03:09:39 PST 2003 State-Changed-Why: Done, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=47132 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 16 3:47:45 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1ECD37B401; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 03:47:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AF643F6B; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 03:47:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (brueffer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0GBliNS011326; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 03:47:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brueffer@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brueffer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0GBlicW011322; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:47:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:47:44 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Brueffer Message-Id: <200301161147.h0GBlicW011322@freefall.freebsd.org> To: brueffer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, brueffer@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/47132: e-mail correction Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: e-mail correction Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->brueffer Responsible-Changed-By: brueffer Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Jan 16 12:46:53 CET 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take that one http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=47132 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 16 4: 0:39 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DFF37B401; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 04:00:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B41743F3F; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 04:00:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0GC0ZcZ095446; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:00:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0GC0brB001257; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:00:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0GC0ahW001256; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:00:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:00:36 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Christian Brueffer Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/47132: e-mail correction Message-ID: <20030116120036.GB548@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <200301161147.h0GBlicW011322@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200301161147.h0GBlicW011322@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 12:47:44PM +0100, Christian Brueffer wrote: > Synopsis: e-mail correction > > Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->brueffer > Responsible-Changed-By: brueffer > Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Jan 16 12:46:53 CET 2003 > Responsible-Changed-Why: > I'll take that one > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=47132 > Huh? Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 16 4: 6: 2 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC6C37B401; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 04:06:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3075E43F65; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 04:06:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (brueffer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0GC61NS024844; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 04:06:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brueffer@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brueffer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0GC61E0024840; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:06:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:06:01 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Brueffer Message-Id: <200301161206.h0GC61E0024840@freefall.freebsd.org> To: brueffer@FreeBSD.org, brueffer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/47132: e-mail correction Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: e-mail correction Responsible-Changed-From-To: brueffer->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: brueffer Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Jan 16 13:05:15 CET 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: Sorry, I should open my eyes, when editing PRs. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=47132 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 16 9:43:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D9537B401; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:43:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from kurush.osdn.org.ua (external.osdn.org.ua [212.40.34.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB3A43E4A; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:43:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from never@kurush.osdn.org.ua) Received: from kurush.osdn.org.ua (never@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kurush.osdn.org.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0GHhGGY058626; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:43:17 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from never@kurush.osdn.org.ua) Received: (from never@localhost) by kurush.osdn.org.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0GHhGgl058625; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:43:16 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:43:16 +0200 From: Alexandr Kovalenko To: Walter Belgers Cc: Will Andrews , freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: could ANYONE please give me an access Message-ID: <20030116174316.GA58567@nevermind.kiev.ua> References: <20030116111818.GA35877@nevermind.kiev.ua> <200301161121.h0GBLobg086331@lurza.secnetix.de> <20030116112543.GB35877@nevermind.kiev.ua> <20030116141456.GB30015@procyon.firepipe.net> <20030116154505.L69518@teletubbie.het.net.je> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030116154505.L69518@teletubbie.het.net.je> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Walter Belgers! On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 03:45:05PM +0100, you wrote: > Will Andrews wrote: > > > Which mirror contains the same, the ftp-master.freebsd.org has? > > > > rsync://ftp13.freebsd.org/ > > Or rsync from ftp.nl.freebsd.org::vol/3/freebsd-core/ > Located in the Netherlands. Shouldn't them all be added to http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-rsync.html ? -- NEVE-RIPE, will build world for food Ukrainian FreeBSD User Group http://uafug.org.ua/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 16 11:17:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B28537B40B; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:17:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from teletubbie.het.net.je (teletubbie.het.net.je [192.87.110.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600D143ED8; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:17:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from walter@nluug.nl) Received: by teletubbie.het.net.je (Postfix, from userid 500) id 753A11B345; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:17:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:17:34 +0100 From: Walter Belgers To: Alexandr Kovalenko Cc: Walter Belgers , Will Andrews , freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: could ANYONE please give me an access Message-ID: <20030116201734.R69518@teletubbie.het.net.je> References: <20030116111818.GA35877@nevermind.kiev.ua> <200301161121.h0GBLobg086331@lurza.secnetix.de> <20030116112543.GB35877@nevermind.kiev.ua> <20030116141456.GB30015@procyon.firepipe.net> <20030116154505.L69518@teletubbie.het.net.je> <20030116174316.GA58567@nevermind.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20030116174316.GA58567@nevermind.kiev.ua>; from never@nevermind.kiev.ua on Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 07:43:16PM +0200 X-message-flag: Outlook : A program to spread viri, but it can do mail too. Reply-By: Tue, 24 Jul 2000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alexandr Kovalenko wrote: > > > > Or rsync from ftp.nl.freebsd.org::vol/3/freebsd-core/ > > Located in the Netherlands. > > Shouldn't them all be added to > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-rsync.html > ? Hm, yes, I guess so :) Hopefully somebody who can, will add it. Walter. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 16 15:54:58 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCCB37B401 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:54:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [63.93.4.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F84C43E4A for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:54:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0GNstjI019532 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:54:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h0GNst35019529 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:54:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:54:55 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Document Copyrights/Credit Messages In-Reply-To: <20030107171925.W6075@wonkity.com> Message-ID: <20030116164835.V19422@wonkity.com> References: <20030107171925.W6075@wonkity.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After Mr. Lucas's reply, I've looked a little more at it, and am even more confused. I have written a document for an in-house package. The SGML-formatted text is entirely original, by me. The PDF and HTML versions of this document are generated with the FDP tools, so they use callout images and stylesheets and other portions of the formats defined by FDP. If I include the copyright message from the Handbook, it looks like I'm giving permission to copy *my* document. What I want is to properly credit and show copyrights for FDP, DocBook, and anyone else involved, without granting permission to copy *my* document. Is that possible? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 16 16:35:28 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8283A37B401 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:35:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-server3.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server3.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8308243F18 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:35:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from offer1@cfl.rr.com) Received: from david-congero (207.107.35.65.cfl.rr.com [65.35.107.207]) by smtp-server3.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id h0H0YLuZ004266 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:35:25 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: offer1 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Credit Card Fraud Message-ID: <200311670521doc@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:35:21 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Would you like to know more about credit card fraud on the internet and how to stop it? 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Thank you for your time To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 16 17:59:22 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1FE37B401 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:59:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B913943F1E for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:59:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52) with ESMTP id <20030117015920052008vnade>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:59:20 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0H1wFm9031290; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:58:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h0H1w9i1031287; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:58:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Warren Block Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Document Copyrights/Credit Messages References: <20030107171925.W6075@wonkity.com> <20030116164835.V19422@wonkity.com> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 16 Jan 2003 17:58:08 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20030116164835.V19422@wonkity.com> Message-ID: Lines: 47 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Warren Block writes: > I have written a document for an in-house package. The SGML-formatted > text is entirely original, by me. > > The PDF and HTML versions of this document are generated with the FDP > tools, so they use callout images and stylesheets and other portions of > the formats defined by FDP. > > If I include the copyright message from the Handbook, it looks like I'm > giving permission to copy *my* document. What I want is to properly > credit and show copyrights for FDP, DocBook, and anyone else involved, > without granting permission to copy *my* document. Is that possible? Only a lawyer may give you legal advice. Here are some unqualified observations, after this quote from USC 17-103. (b) The copyright in a compilation or derivative work extends only to the material contributed by the author of such work, as distinguished from the preexisting material employed in the work, and does not imply any exclusive right in the preexisting material. The copyright in such work is independent of, and does not affect or enlarge the scope, duration, ownership, or subsistence of, any copyright protection in the preexisting material. So much for "what belongs to whom", but of course we want things labeled so other people can know up front (before lawyers are hired :). So when practical, everything gets marked for ownership. But well- placed notices and explanations should do, either in the work or in accompanying info. If someone's license required placement of notices or license copies in the work, I'd either do what it requires or not use it (or try to get a waiver from the owner). AFAIK, there's nothing wrong with putting a notice A of your own before another notice B saying that notice B is only there because it's required and saying that its claims (eg, on your work) are invalid (when you think they are invalid). As to what FDP licenses require, I don't remember. I do sometimes wonder about the validity of a license from the claimed owner, "The FreeBSD Documentation Project" which is not a legal entity, AFAIK. BTW, note that many GPL'd works (some claiming to be wholly GPL- licensed) are derivatives being partially BSD-licensed, or even (especially .h headers) in the public domain, theoretically making it impossible to derive from it without violating the GPL which requires the whole of the derivative to be GPLed. :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 17 1:10:18 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9421037B401; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3859443F43; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:10:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (brueffer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0H9AHNS067571; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:10:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brueffer@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brueffer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0H9AHEP067567; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:10:17 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:10:17 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Brueffer Message-Id: <200301170910.h0H9AHEP067567@freefall.freebsd.org> To: brueffer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, brueffer@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/45213: [PATCH] Fix sorting in Additional Contributors sections (part 1 of 3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] Fix sorting in Additional Contributors sections (part 1 of 3) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->brueffer Responsible-Changed-By: brueffer Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Jan 17 10:09:16 CET 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I will work on this http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=45213 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 17 1:10:44 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D2C37B401; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:10:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48FF843F43; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:10:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (brueffer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0H9AhNS068494; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:10:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brueffer@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brueffer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0H9AhX6068490; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:10:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:10:43 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Brueffer Message-Id: <200301170910.h0H9AhX6068490@freefall.freebsd.org> To: brueffer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, brueffer@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/45214: [PATCH] Fix sorting in Additional Contributors sections (part 2 of 3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] Fix sorting in Additional Contributors sections (part 2 of 3) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->brueffer Responsible-Changed-By: brueffer Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Jan 17 10:10:21 CET 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I will work on this http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=45214 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 17 1:11:21 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE7637B401; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:11:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7276D43F80; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:11:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (brueffer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0H9BHNS069528; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:11:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brueffer@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brueffer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0H9BHHd069524; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:11:17 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:11:17 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Brueffer Message-Id: <200301170911.h0H9BHHd069524@freefall.freebsd.org> To: brueffer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, brueffer@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/45215: [PATCH] Fix sorting in Additional Contributors sections (part 3 of 3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] Fix sorting in Additional Contributors sections (part 3 of 3) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->brueffer Responsible-Changed-By: brueffer Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Jan 17 10:10:46 CET 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I will work on this http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=45215 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 17 7:38: 4 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518D137B401; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:38:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (eos.ocn.ne.jp [211.6.83.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A7B43F1E; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:38:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (p30107-adsao12honb4-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [219.161.183.107]) by smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1AA03F0B; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 00:37:59 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by mail.allbsd.org (8.12.3/3.7W/DomainMaster) with ESMTP id h0HFaJB2073648; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 00:36:20 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 00:36:13 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20030118.003613.38720028.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> To: gioria@FreeBSD.ORG, blackend@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ${DESTDIR} in src/release/doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1 From: Hiroki Sato X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 2.2 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="--Next_Part(Sat_Jan_18_00:36:13_2003_787)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----Next_Part(Sat_Jan_18_00:36:13_2003_787)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have made a simple RELNOTESng snapshot page[*] that includes the supported languages, but noticed that several Makefiles in fr_FR.ISO8859-1/ use ${DOCDIR}/en_US.ISO8859-1 as ${DESTDIR}. It overwrites the English version during "make install" without ${NO_LANGCODE_IN_DESTDIR}. [*] http://www.jp.freebsd.org/doc-jp/snapshots/ Could you fix this? Probably the attached patch should be applied. -- | Hiroki SATO ----Next_Part(Sat_Jan_18_00:36:13_2003_787)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="relnotes-fr.diff" Index: fr_FR.ISO8859-1/early-adopter/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/early-adopter/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -d -u -I\$FreeBSD:.*\$ -I\$Id:.*\$ -I\$hrs:.*\$ -r1.1 Makefile --- fr_FR.ISO8859-1/early-adopter/Makefile 2 Nov 2002 14:15:25 -0000 1.1 +++ fr_FR.ISO8859-1/early-adopter/Makefile 17 Jan 2003 14:58:02 -0000 @@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ .ifdef NO_LANGCODE_IN_DESTDIR DESTDIR?= ${DOCDIR}/early-adopter .else -DESTDIR?= ${DOCDIR}/en_US.ISO8859-1/early-adopter +DESTDIR?= ${DOCDIR}/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/early-adopter .endif DOC?= article Index: fr_FR.ISO8859-1/hardware/Makefile.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/hardware/Makefile.inc,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -d -u -I\$FreeBSD:.*\$ -I\$Id:.*\$ -I\$hrs:.*\$ -r1.1 Makefile.inc --- fr_FR.ISO8859-1/hardware/Makefile.inc 9 Sep 2002 22:09:46 -0000 1.1 +++ fr_FR.ISO8859-1/hardware/Makefile.inc 17 Jan 2003 14:58:47 -0000 @@ -9,5 +9,5 @@ .ifdef NO_LANGCODE_IN_DESTDIR DESTDIR?= ${DOCDIR}/hardware/${.CURDIR:T} .else -DESTDIR?= ${DOCDIR}/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/${.CURDIR:T} +DESTDIR?= ${DOCDIR}/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/hardware/${.CURDIR:T} .endif Index: fr_FR.ISO8859-1/relnotes/Makefile.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/relnotes/Makefile.inc,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -d -u -I\$FreeBSD:.*\$ -I\$Id:.*\$ -I\$hrs:.*\$ -r1.1 Makefile.inc --- fr_FR.ISO8859-1/relnotes/Makefile.inc 19 Feb 2002 09:37:04 -0000 1.1 +++ fr_FR.ISO8859-1/relnotes/Makefile.inc 17 Jan 2003 14:59:36 -0000 @@ -3,5 +3,5 @@ .ifdef NO_LANGCODE_IN_DESTDIR DESTDIR?= ${DOCDIR}/relnotes/${.CURDIR:T} .else -DESTDIR?= ${DOCDIR}/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/${.CURDIR:T} +DESTDIR?= ${DOCDIR}/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/relnotes/${.CURDIR:T} .endif ----Next_Part(Sat_Jan_18_00:36:13_2003_787)---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 17 13:30: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B8B37B401 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE8443F13 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0HLU2NS084789 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0HLU2vU084788; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5305537B401 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:22:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C448B43F18 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:22:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51) with ESMTP id <2003011721223005100po0hqe>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:22:30 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0HLLKm9045642 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:21:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h0HLLEoV045639; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:21:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Message-Id: Date: 17 Jan 2003 13:21:14 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@attbi.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: docs/47170: xargs(1) manpage has "utility" problems. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 47170 >Category: docs >Synopsis: xargs(1) manpage has "utility" problems. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jan 17 13:30:01 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The manpage refers to both xargs(1) and one of its arguments as "utility", often in a manner that is confusing or awkward, especially in formats (eg, in Emacs) where the word is looks the same as an argument or a normal word. Sometimes the manpage uses "the utility" and sometimes it omits the "the". The worst problem is "The utility and any arguments specified on the command line are given to the utility". While this eventually makes sense, it can take some head scratching. The argv[0] usage should go without mention; it's standard behavior and mentioning it just confuses things. Also: The manpage uses both "xargs utility" and "xargs command". ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Replace "xargs utility" with "xargs command" and clean up other uses of "utility", "the utility", etc. Patch this: .\" $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/xargs/xargs.1,v 1.6.2.9 2002/06/23 08:01:27 jmallett Exp $ with this: --- /pr/work/xargs..orig.1 Tue Jan 14 17:35:06 2003 +++ /pr/work/xargs.1 Tue Jan 14 19:14:42 2003 @@ -62,19 +62,18 @@ .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm -utility reads space, tab, newline and end-of-file delimited arguments -from the standard input and executes the specified +command reads space, tab, newline and end-of-file delimited strings +from the standard input and executes .Ar utility -with them as +with the strings as arguments. .Pp -The utility and any arguments specified on the command line are given -to the +Any arguments specified on the command line are given to .Ar utility upon each invocation, followed by some number of the arguments read -from standard input. -The -.Ar utility +from the standard input of +.Nm . +The utility is repeatedly executed until standard input is exhausted. .Pp Spaces, tabs and newlines may be embedded in arguments using single @@ -175,7 +174,8 @@ will be called with the available lines. .It Fl n Ar number Set the maximum number of arguments taken from standard input for each -invocation of the utility. +invocation of +.Ar utility . An invocation of .Ar utility will use less than @@ -229,9 +229,9 @@ arguments will not fit in the specified (or default) command line length. .El .Pp -If no +If .Ar utility -is specified, +is omitted, .Xr echo 1 is used. .Pp @@ -241,15 +241,19 @@ .Pp The .Nm -utility exits immediately (without processing any further input) if a +command exits immediately (without processing any further input) if a command line cannot be assembled, .Ar utility -cannot be invoked, an invocation of the utility is terminated by a signal -or an invocation of the utility exits with a value of 255. +cannot be invoked, an invocation of +.Ar utility +is terminated by a signal, +or an invocation of +.Ar utility +exits with a value of 255. .Sh DIAGNOSTICS The .Nm -utility exits with a value of 0 if no error occurs. +command exits with a value of 0 if no error occurs. If .Ar utility cannot be found, @@ -269,7 +273,7 @@ .Sh STANDARDS The .Nm -utility is expected to be +command is expected to be .St -p1003.2 compliant. 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Светлана To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 18 6:15:45 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36EC637B401 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 06:15:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42AD943ED8 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 06:15:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (mwlucas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blackhelicopters.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0IEFbc4027531 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 09:15:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0IEFb3P027530 for doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 09:15:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 09:15:37 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: redirections on Web site? Message-ID: <20030118091537.A27473@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, I'm polishing up the press release for 5.0, and have hit a bit of a snag. The general consensus is that for information on getting FreeBSD, it would be best to point at a link like www.freebsd.org/vendors.html For us, the correct link is http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html. The link needs to be spelled out, as press releases are not hypertext. (We present them in hypertext, but they won't be distributed in hypertext.) We can't possibly put that correct link in; it's just not human-readable or human-memorable. It occurs to me that the simplest way to do this is with a redirect, which leads me to two questions: a) Do we allow redirects on the Web site? b) If we do, who knows how to do them? Of course, this is somewhat time-critical... 5.0 is so close I can feel the moisture of its breath on the back of my neck. Any opinions? ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons Absolute BSD: http://www.AbsoluteBSD.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 18 6:48:54 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1D237B401 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 06:48:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E8B543F43 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 06:48:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 15162 invoked by uid 10); 18 Jan 2003 14:48:44 -0000 Received: from nathan.internal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0IEhLWi054848; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:43:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ue@nathan.internal) Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0IEhLqw054847; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:43:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:43:21 +0100 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: redirections on Web site? Message-ID: <20030118144321.GE53739@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-www@freebsd.org References: <20030118091537.A27473@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030118091537.A27473@blackhelicopters.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 09:15:37AM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > I'm polishing up the press release for 5.0, and have hit a bit of a > snag. What about international versions of the press releases, btw? > It occurs to me that the simplest way to do this is with a > redirect, which leads me to two questions: Well, the main problem with redirects is that they will only work on the master site, not on any of the mirrors. Ask webmaster@ if they are willing to add one (I would not bet money on it). If in doubt, just point everybody to http://www.freebsd.org/. /s/Udo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 18 7:17:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9735E37B401 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 07:17:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust47.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEFA43F3F for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 07:17:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 18Zuj0-00020T-00; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:17:34 +0000 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:17:34 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: redirections on Web site? Message-ID: <20030118151734.GA7664@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Michael Lucas , doc@freebsd.org References: <20030118091537.A27473@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030118091537.A27473@blackhelicopters.org> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. X-message-flag-attribution: suresh, sdm. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 09:15:37AM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > > Folks, > > I'm polishing up the press release for 5.0, and have hit a bit of a > snag. > > The general consensus is that for information on getting FreeBSD, it > would be best to point at a link like > > www.freebsd.org/vendors.html > > For us, the correct link is > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html. > > The link needs to be spelled out, as press releases are not hypertext. > (We present them in hypertext, but they won't be distributed in > hypertext.) We can't possibly put that correct link in; it's just not > human-readable or human-memorable. > > It occurs to me that the simplest way to do this is with a > redirect, which leads me to two questions: > > a) Do we allow redirects on the Web site? www/en/FAQ/index.html > b) If we do, who knows how to do them? www/en/FAQ/index.html Ceri -- By the All-Father, I shall avenge the reckoning of my beards! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 18 7:40:34 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA8637B401 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 07:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBDF43F3F for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 07:40:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02) with ESMTP id <2003011815402900200mksvue>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:40:29 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0IFdDm9061663; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 07:39:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h0IFd8SE061660; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 07:39:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: redirections on Web site? References: <20030118091537.A27473@blackhelicopters.org> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 18 Jan 2003 07:39:08 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20030118091537.A27473@blackhelicopters.org> Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Lucas writes: > The link needs to be spelled out, as press releases are not hypertext. > (We present them in hypertext, but they won't be distributed in > hypertext.) We can't possibly put that correct link in; it's just not > human-readable or human-memorable. Good thinking, there. An alterative to the re-direct would be to give them "http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/" and ensure that page has a link to the most important "doc proj", the Handbook, or at least fix the "The FreeBSD Documentation Set" comment to say it includes the handbook so people can easily know which link hierarchy to start chasing through. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 18 14: 2:57 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F7F37B401 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:02:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from parmenides.zen.co.uk (parmenides.zen.co.uk [212.23.8.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5209843ED8 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:02:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 13627 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 22:02:53 -0000 Received: from protagoras.zen.co.uk (212.23.8.61) by parmenides.zen.co.uk with QMQP; 18 Jan 2003 22:02:53 -0000 Received: from dsl-62-3-122-102.zen.co.uk (HELO eborcom.com) (62.3.122.102) by protagoras.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 22:02:53 -0000 X-Zen-Trace: 62.3.122.102 Received: (qmail 34561 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Jan 2003 22:02:52 -0000 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:02:52 +0000 From: Tom Hukins To: Walter Belgers Cc: Alexandr Kovalenko , Will Andrews , freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: could ANYONE please give me an access Message-ID: <20030118220252.A34529@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: Tom Hukins , Walter Belgers , Alexandr Kovalenko , Will Andrews , freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <20030116111818.GA35877@nevermind.kiev.ua> <200301161121.h0GBLobg086331@lurza.secnetix.de> <20030116112543.GB35877@nevermind.kiev.ua> <20030116141456.GB30015@procyon.firepipe.net> <20030116154505.L69518@teletubbie.het.net.je> <20030116174316.GA58567@nevermind.kiev.ua> <20030116201734.R69518@teletubbie.het.net.je> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20030116201734.R69518@teletubbie.het.net.je>; from walter@nluug.nl on Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 08:17:34PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 08:17:34PM +0100, Walter Belgers wrote: > Alexandr Kovalenko wrote: > > Shouldn't them all be added to > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-rsync.html > > Hm, yes, I guess so :) Hopefully somebody who can, will add it. I'm happy to add ftp13.freebsd.org and ftp.nl.freebsd.org as rsync sites. I don't use rsync myself, however, so please tell me which collections are available on both these servers in the same way that collections are listed for the other servers in the Handbook. Thanks, Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 18 14:31:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FDB37B401 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:31:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from parmenides.zen.co.uk (parmenides.zen.co.uk [212.23.8.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CA0543E4A for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:31:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 23482 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 22:31:21 -0000 Received: from protagoras.zen.co.uk (212.23.8.61) by parmenides.zen.co.uk with QMQP; 18 Jan 2003 22:31:21 -0000 Received: from dsl-62-3-122-102.zen.co.uk (HELO eborcom.com) (62.3.122.102) by protagoras.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 22:31:20 -0000 X-Zen-Trace: 62.3.122.102 Received: (qmail 34845 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Jan 2003 22:31:20 -0000 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:31:20 +0000 From: Tom Hukins To: Slaven Rezic Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: porters-handbook: suggestion Message-ID: <20030118223120.A34787@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: Tom Hukins , Slaven Rezic , doc@freebsd.org References: <200301121912.h0CJCY6c039300@vran.herceg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200301121912.h0CJCY6c039300@vran.herceg.de>; from slaven@rezic.de on Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 08:12:34PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 08:12:34PM +0100, Slaven Rezic wrote: > By inserting "sort -r" directories are sorted effectively by length, > so it is assured that parent directories are not deleted before their > subdirectories. That's not quite how "sort -r" works: it sorts reverse alphabetically, not by length. This has the right effect for creating the package list, though, so I've updated the Porter's Handbook based on your suggestion. Thanks, Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 18 15: 8:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF3E37B401; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:08:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from morimoto.progeny.com (morimoto.progeny.com [216.37.46.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8F943F18; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:08:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dsp@progeny.com) Received: from greymalkin.progeny.com (greymalkin.progeny.com [192.168.1.170]) by morimoto.progeny.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D20636AA; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by greymalkin.progeny.com (Postfix, from userid 10025) id 288A82AB; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from progeny.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greymalkin.progeny.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173B33D6D; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:08:07 -0500 (EST) From: Doug Porter To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: could ANYONE please give me an access In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:02:52 GMT." <20030118220252.A34529@eborcom.com> References: <20030116111818.GA35877@nevermind.kiev.ua> <200301161121.h0GBLobg086331@lurza.secnetix.de> <20030116112543.GB35877@nevermind.kiev.ua> <20030116141456.GB30015@procyon.firepipe.net> <20030116154505.L69518@teletubbie.het.net.je> <20030116174316.GA58567@nevermind.kiev.ua> <20030116201734.R69518@teletubbie.het.net.je> <20030118220252.A34529@eborcom.com> User-Agent: nmh/1.0.4+dev (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:08:02 -0500 Message-Id: <20030118230807.288A82AB@greymalkin.progeny.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom Hukins wrote: > > I don't use rsync myself, however, so please tell me which > collections are available on both these servers in the same way > that collections are listed for the other servers in the > Handbook. On ftp13 (archive.progeny.com) the only FreeBSD-related rsync collection is named simply "FreeBSD". It is a copy of the FTP archive. -- Doug Porter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 18 17:12:42 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E7337B401 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 17:12:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE0043F1E for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 17:12:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8005424D02; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:12:38 +0900 (JST) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2::130]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C6D24D06; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:12:36 +0900 (JST) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2::130]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB4E1E4814; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:12:36 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:12:36 +0900 Message-ID: <7mptqulz7f.wl@black.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Michael Lucas , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: redirections on Web site? In-Reply-To: <20030118151734.GA7664@submonkey.net> References: <20030118091537.A27473@blackhelicopters.org> <20030118151734.GA7664@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.0 (Venus) SEMI/1.14.4 (Hosorogi) FLIM/1.14.4 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Kashiharajing=FE-mae?=) APEL/10.4 Emacs/21.2 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.4 - "Hosorogi") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:17:45 +0000 (UTC), Ceri Davies wrote: > > a) Do we allow redirects on the Web site? > > www/en/FAQ/index.html > > > b) If we do, who knows how to do them? > > www/en/FAQ/index.html Yes, this is an easiest solution which can be used in mirror site, too. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 18 23:20: 1 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A6D37B405 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 23:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (nm-c-8a51.adsl.wanadoo.nl [62.234.170.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C395643F87 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 23:19:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Kara_659_Smithbbos@hotmail.com) Message-ID: <001100d2de63$dee62771$11724714@tbokgcd.ldp> From: To: Kara_659_Smith@hotmail.com Subject: Nice to meet you ! 1831lJtc1-762KinP3206Spxe9-786dz-30 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:57:45 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. 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