From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 7 13:36:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01CF016A4BF; Sun, 7 Sep 2003 13:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postal.netaxs.com (postal.netaxs.com [207.8.186.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1071A43F93; Sun, 7 Sep 2003 13:36:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clear@alum.mit.edu) Received: from alum.mit.edu (root@unix5.netaxs.com [207.8.186.7]) h87KalNL005237; Sun, 7 Sep 2003 16:36:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3F5B96DA.559CADCB@alum.mit.edu> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2003 16:36:42 -0400 From: Jed Clear Organization: Dis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: docs@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------msBEC1FEF8AD608AC0C2AE323E" Subject: [Fwd: Something A Little Outdated...] X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2003 20:36:51 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------msBEC1FEF8AD608AC0C2AE323E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Louis Epstein wrote : > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/README.TXT > says 4.7 is the current release? 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Sun, 7 Sep 2003 22:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spam1.snu.ac.kr (spam2.snu.ac.kr [147.46.10.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 13CAC43FCB for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2003 22:00:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lahaye@snu.ac.kr) Received: (snipe 28205 invoked by alias); 8 Sep 2003 05:26:53 -0000 Received: from lahaye@snu.ac.kr with Spamsniper2.0 (Processed in 0.051765 secs); Received: from unknown (HELO sis1.snu.ac.kr) (147.46.10.36) by 0 with SMTP; 8 Sep 2003 05:26:53 -0000 X-RCPTTO: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Received: from snu.ac.kr ([147.46.44.183]) by sis1.snu.ac.kr (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h884xhSZ308216 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 13:59:44 +0900 Message-ID: <3F5C0CEC.8010203@snu.ac.kr> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 14:00:28 +0900 From: Rob Lahaye Organization: Seoul National University - South Korea User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030726 X-Accept-Language: en-us, ko-kr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Why is "Installing FreeBSD Using PPPoE" not included in handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 05:00:31 -0000 Hi, Being a PPPoE user myself, I am quite surprised that "Installing FreeBSD Using PPPoE" is not included as a section in "Installing FreeBSD" of the handbook. It took me quite a while to get to this information. It is indeed a bit tricky, but nevertheless so essential to PPPoE users, who want to install via their network connection. I herewith also confirm that it works! The "Installing FreeBSD Using PPPoE" info pages are at: http://www.treefort.org/~rpratt/pppoe/article.html R. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 00:20:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE4416A4BF for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 00:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747AF43FAF for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 00:20:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h887K8Up044726 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 00:20:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h887K8fP044725; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 00:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 00:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200309080720.h887K8fP044725@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Andrey Simonenko Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3E116A4BF for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 00:15:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (oberon.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [195.245.194.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E276143FE3 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 00:15:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua) Received: from comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (eth0.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [10.0.1.184]) by relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F7219CEA for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 10:15:01 +0300 (EEST) Received: from pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [10.18.54.109]) by comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h887Jc451118 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 10:19:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: by pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6136B225; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 10:14:58 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <20030908071458.GA197@pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 10:14:58 +0300 From: Andrey Simonenko To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: docs/56584: Updates for VOP_GETPAGES(9) and VOP_PUTPAGES(9) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 07:20:10 -0000 >Number: 56584 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Updates for VOP_GETPAGES(9) and VOP_PUTPAGES(9) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 08 00:20:07 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrey Simonenko >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE and 5.1-RELEASE >Organization: >Environment: >Description: I suppose that VOP_GETPAGES(9) and VOP_PUTPAGES(9) contain mistakes, also following patch adds descriptions for not described previously arguments. Comments? >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- VOP_GETPAGES.9.orig Thu Jun 5 04:56:16 2003 +++ VOP_GETPAGES.9 Sun Sep 7 23:04:59 2003 @@ -40,29 +40,33 @@ .In sys/vnode.h .In vm/vm.h .Ft int -.Fn VOP_GETPAGES "struct vnode *vp" "vm_page_t *m" "int count" "int reqpage" "vm_ooffset_t offset" +.Fn VOP_GETPAGES "struct vnode *vp" "vm_page_t *m" "int bytecount" "int reqpage" "vm_ooffset_t offset" .Ft int -.Fn VOP_PUTPAGES "struct vnode *vp" "vm_page_t *m" "int count" "int sync" "int *rtvals" "vm_ooffset_t offset" +.Fn VOP_PUTPAGES "struct vnode *vp" "vm_page_t *m" "int bytecount" "int sync" "int *rtvals" "vm_ooffset_t offset" .Sh DESCRIPTION +These entry points read and write VM pages from a file respectively. +.Pp The arguments are: .Bl -tag -width reqpage .It Ar vp The file to access. .It Ar m -A page ??? -.It Ar count -How many pages to access. +The array of vm_page_t. +.It Ar bytecount +How many bytes to access (multiple of the page size), should be +divided by the page size to get the number of elements in the array +.Ar m . .It Ar sync Nonzero if the write should be synchronous. .It Ar rtvals -??? +The array of return values for corresponding pages in the array +.Ar m . .It Ar reqpage -??? +The index of the requested page in the array +.Ar m . .It Ar offset Offset in the file to start accessing. .El -.Pp -Not quite sure about this one. .Sh RETURN VALUES Zero is returned on success, otherwise an error is returned. .Sh SEE ALSO >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org From: Andrey Simonenko Reply-To: Andrey Simonenko Cc: X-send-pr-version: 3.113 X-GNATS-Notify: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 00:48:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601FD16A4BF for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 00:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gandalf.online.bg (gandalf.online.bg [217.75.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 486DB43FA3 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 00:48:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 25668 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2003 07:41:02 -0000 Received: from office.sbnd.net (HELO straylight.ringlet.net) (217.75.140.130) by gandalf.online.bg with SMTP; 8 Sep 2003 07:41:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 76122 invoked by uid 1000); 8 Sep 2003 07:48:48 -0000 Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 10:48:48 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: sexbear Message-ID: <20030908074848.GQ556@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: sexbear , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <000e01c3721f$0957d690$115447cb@sexbear> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EE8jvUPYYQjJtG7J" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000e01c3721f$0957d690$115447cb@sexbear> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: a question about FreeBSD Porter's Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 07:48:54 -0000 --EE8jvUPYYQjJtG7J Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 09:26:52PM +0800, sexbear wrote: > Recently, I tried to make a port, and I don't want to creat the pkg-plist= file manually, so I read Chapter 17 Automated package list creation. > I followed the steps, but got errors when typing make install PREFIX=3D/v= ar/tmp/port-name ( sorry I can't remeber it~~:p) > Finally, I tried to creat the pkg-plist file manually at first(touch pkg-= plist), then it worked well. > Is it a correct step? > If it is, wish it could be added to help someboby. Yes, it is the correct way; I wonder how nobody noticed this one before :) I just committed a change to the Porter's handbook listing this step; it should show up on the FreeBSD website in a couple of hours, at the next website rebuild. Thanks for pointing out this omission! :) G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@sbnd.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 I had to translate this sentence into English because I could not read the = original Sanskrit. --EE8jvUPYYQjJtG7J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/XDRf7Ri2jRYZRVMRAm1YAKCKNZHT2e8m9uDDuF9NAWOlD5yPdQCgiABm iYCiocHOIR8SUmi9vO4PtTg= =8N3O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EE8jvUPYYQjJtG7J-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 03:40:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED5516A4BF for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 03:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD29C43F93 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 03:40:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h88AeKUp005450 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 03:40:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h88AeK2B005449; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 03:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 03:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200309081040.h88AeK2B005449@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Glen Gibb Subject: Re: docs/56021: Documentation incorrect for mac in ipfw2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Glen Gibb List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 10:40:21 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/56021; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Glen Gibb To: Peter Pentchev Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org, Subject: Re: docs/56021: Documentation incorrect for mac in ipfw2 Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 20:34:44 +1000 (EST) The patch looks ok to me. Don't be surprised if I'm slow to reply for the next week or two - I'm currently travalling. Glen On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Peter Pentchev wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 11:07:21AM +1000, Glen Gibb wrote: > > > > >Number: 56021 > > >Category: docs > > >Synopsis: Documentation incorrect for mac in ipfw2 > > >Originator: Glen Gibb > > >Release: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT i386 > [snip] > > >Description: > > > > The man page for ipfw (IPFW2) is incomplete/misleading in regards to > > the "mac" option in the RULE OPTIONS section. > > > > The man page states that the address can be "optionally followed by a > > mask indicating how many bits are significant, as in MAC > > 10:20:30:40:50:60/33 any". This IS correct but it does not mention the > > second method of specifying a bit mask, that is by following the > > address with an ampersand (&) followed by the bitmask whcich is > > specified using the same format as the address. For example, if we > > wanted to match any mac address that ended with 60, we could use the > > following mask: > > > > MAC 00:00:00:00:50:60&00:00:00:00:00:ff > > What do you think about the following patch? > > G'luck, > Peter > > -- > Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@sbnd.net roam@FreeBSD.org > PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc > Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 > This sentence was in the past tense. > > Index: src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.8 > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.8,v > retrieving revision 1.131 > diff -u -r1.131 ipfw.8 > --- src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.8 22 Jul 2003 07:41:24 -0000 1.131 > +++ src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.8 5 Sep 2003 16:12:41 -0000 > @@ -1046,11 +1046,31 @@ > .Cm any > keyword (matching any MAC address), or six groups of hex digits > separated by colons, > -and optionally followed by a mask indicating how many bits are > -significant, as in > +and optionally followed by a mask indicating the significant bits. > +The mask may be specified using either of the following methods: > +.Bl -enum -width indent > +.It > +A slash > +.Pq / > +followed by the number of significant bits. > +For example, an address with 33 significant bits could be specified as: > .Pp > .Dl "MAC 10:20:30:40:50:60/33 any" > .Pp > +.It > +An ampersand > +.Pq & > +followed by a bitmask specified as six groups of hex digits separated > +by colons. > +For example, an address in which the last 16 bits are significant could > +be specified as: > +.Pp > +.Dl "MAC 10:20:30:40:50:60&00:00:00:00:00:ff any" > +.Pp > +Note that the ampersand character has a special meaning in many shells > +and should generally be escaped. > +.Pp > +.El > Note that the order of MAC addresses (destination first, > source second) is > the same as on the wire, but the opposite of the one used for > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 05:30:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC2F16A4BF for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 05:30:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spam1.snu.ac.kr (spam2.snu.ac.kr [147.46.10.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F29E43FE0 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 05:30:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lahaye@snu.ac.kr) Received: (snipe 3758 invoked by alias); 8 Sep 2003 12:57:18 -0000 Received: from lahaye@snu.ac.kr with Spamsniper2.0 (Processed in 0.051468 secs); Received: from unknown (HELO sis1.snu.ac.kr) (147.46.10.36) by 0 with SMTP; 8 Sep 2003 12:57:18 -0000 X-RCPTTO: ceri@FreeBSD.org,freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org,freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, Received: from snu.ac.kr ([147.46.44.183]) by sis1.snu.ac.kr (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h88CU3SZ296402; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 21:30:04 +0900 Message-ID: <3F5C7679.1080100@snu.ac.kr> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 21:30:49 +0900 From: Rob Lahaye Organization: Seoul National University - South Korea User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030726 X-Accept-Language: en-us, ko-kr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <3F5C3DC6.2010809@snu.ac.kr> <20030908092115.GD364@submonkey.net> In-Reply-To: <20030908092115.GD364@submonkey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: removing swap space...only by reboot? A bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 12:30:54 -0000 Ceri Davies wrote: > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 05:28:54PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote: > >>"man swapon" says: >> >>BUGS >> There is no way to stop paging and swapping on a device. It is >> therefore >> not possible to dismount swap devices which are mounted during system >> operation. >> >>Is that still a bug? > > > That depends on which version you are running. > If you have 4.x or 5.0 then you're out of luck, but a recent -current has > the swapctl command which does what you want. Thanks. So I'm out-of-luck with 4.8 :). I wonder if a brief note on this could go at the end of the "adding swap space" section in the handbook. Something like Removing swap space: for OSversion <= 5.0 only reboot can do otherwise swapctl command does it on a running system. Regards, Rob. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 06:07:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A58B16A4BF; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 06:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaft.techsupport.co.uk (shaft.techsupport.co.uk [212.250.77.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0006E43FE3; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 06:06:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from pc3-cdif2-5-cust222.cdif.cable.ntl.com ([81.101.152.222] helo=shrike.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by shaft.techsupport.co.uk with esmtp (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.22) id 19wLjO-0000sG-Lr; Mon, 08 Sep 2003 14:06:58 +0100 Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.22) id 19wLjM-0002tp-In; Mon, 08 Sep 2003 14:06:56 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 14:06:56 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Rob Lahaye Message-ID: <20030908130656.GF364@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Rob Lahaye , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <3F5C3DC6.2010809@snu.ac.kr> <20030908092115.GD364@submonkey.net> <3F5C7679.1080100@snu.ac.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qFgkTsE6LiHkLPZw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F5C7679.1080100@snu.ac.kr> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: removing swap space...only by reboot? A bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 13:07:03 -0000 --qFgkTsE6LiHkLPZw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:30:49PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote: >=20 > Ceri Davies wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 05:28:54PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote: > >=20 > >>"man swapon" says: > >> > >>BUGS > >> There is no way to stop paging and swapping on a device. It is=20 > >> therefore > >> not possible to dismount swap devices which are mounted during sys= tem > >> operation. > >> > >>Is that still a bug? > >=20 > >=20 > > That depends on which version you are running. > > If you have 4.x or 5.0 then you're out of luck, but a recent -current h= as > > the swapctl command which does what you want. >=20 > Thanks. So I'm out-of-luck with 4.8 :). Afraid so. > I wonder if a brief note on this could go at the end of the "adding swap = space" > section in the handbook. Something like >=20 > Removing swap space: > for OSversion <=3D 5.0 only reboot can do > otherwise swapctl command does it on a running system. Already added to the todo list ;) Ceri --=20 User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com --qFgkTsE6LiHkLPZw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/XH7wocfcwTS3JF8RAlf0AKDIMi7nLOJpXgVH3yd0wqNU+VGG4gCgrqL3 Pe0m09mNBUXdS5RcFjoon1A= =okC4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qFgkTsE6LiHkLPZw-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 06:10:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA3316A4BF for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 06:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C7043FE1 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 06:10:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h88DACUp056743 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 06:10:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h88DAC7C056742; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 06:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 06:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200309081310.h88DAC7C056742@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Denis Peplin Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C863E16A4BF for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 06:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vsmi.ru (ns.vsmi.ru [217.23.84.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0556F43F85 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 06:03:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@volginfo.ru) Received: by vsmi.ru (Postfix, from userid 426) id CF9177C5D; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 17:03:35 +0400 (MSD) Received: from exp.local (unknown [192.168.0.199]) by vsmi.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE057C50 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 17:03:35 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <200309081703.17536.info@volginfo.ru> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 17:03:17 +0400 From: Denis Peplin To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: docs/56592: [PATCH] Correct para about devfs in handbook/basics X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 13:10:14 -0000 >Number: 56592 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] Correct para about devfs in handbook/basics >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 08 06:10:11 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: User & >Release: FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p2 i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.109 diff -u -r1.109 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 21 Aug 2003 10:52:58 -0000 1.109 +++ chapter.sgml 8 Sep 2003 12:55:46 -0000 @@ -1464,7 +1464,7 @@ See the &man.devfs.5; manual page for more information. - DEVFS is used by default in FreeBSD 5.0. + DEVFS is used by default in FreeBSD 5.0 and above. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 09:19:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDFB16A4BF; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eth0.a.smtp.sonic.net (eth0.a.smtp.sonic.net [64.142.16.244]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C3C43FEC; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:19:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.kitchenlab.org) Received: from intruder.kitchenlab.org (adsl-64-142-29-77.sonic.net [64.142.29.77]) by eth0.a.smtp.sonic.net (8.12.9/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h88GJEub030766 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:19:14 -0700 Received: from intruder.kitchenlab.org (bmah@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h88GJDYe024482; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:19:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.kitchenlab.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.kitchenlab.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h88GJDgC024481; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:19:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:19:13 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-ID: <20030908161913.GA22709@intruder.kitchenlab.org> References: <200309081453.h88Er29F069868@repoman.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DocE+STaALJfprDB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200309081453.h88Er29F069868@repoman.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/early-adopter article.sgml src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/errata article.sgml src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/readme article.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 16:19:16 -0000 --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > simon 2003/09/08 07:53:02 PDT >=20 > FreeBSD src repository (doc committer) >=20 > Modified files: > release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/early-adopter article.sgml=20 > release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/errata article.sgml=20 > release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/readme article.sgml=20 > Log: > - Use trademark entities. > - Add trademark attributions. > - Don't join trademarks with other words, e.g. using hyphens. I noticed a couple of trademark entities that looked a little odd, specifically where we refer to the name of a FreeBSD architecture. For example, the first sentence of the "Late-Breaking News" section of the errata used to read (roughly): "ipfw(4) should work correctly on strict-alignment 64-architectures such as alpha and sparc64." Now it reads: "ipfw(4) should work correctly on strict-alignment 64-architectures such as alpha and Sparc64(R)." The problem is that "Sparc64(R)" or "Sparc64" is not what we call the platform, it's "sparc64". (Think of "/usr/src/sys/sparc64".) In my mind, the use of "sparc64" above is just one step away from a filename, even though I never marked it up as such. I think there was a use of "i386" that was similar. It's not clear to me what's the right thing here. A more clear-cut case: What if I have some text that says "look in the sparc64 directory". Does this become the (completely incorrect) "look in the &sparc64; directory"? (I have absolutely no problems at all with using the trademark entities in cases where it's unlikely that a reader could interpret a term as a filename.) No criticism intended, this is good work. I'm just trying to wrap my mind around it, as well as figure out all the implications of these changes. Thanks, Bruce. --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/XKwB2MoxcVugUsMRAqeRAJ9bxICAlT9/vqrMu7evmf0Pg895FgCgp0p8 lJTRwxbkV0ijo0PNL2hHGoc= =HKgl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DocE+STaALJfprDB-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 09:40:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E0216A4BF; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14C543FD7; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:40:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (blackend@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h88GeDUp089430; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:40:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from blackend@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h88GeDPa089424; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:40:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Fonvieille Message-Id: <200309081640.h88GeDPa089424@freefall.freebsd.org> To: info@volginfo.ru, blackend@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/56592: [PATCH] Correct para about devfs in handbook/basics X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 16:40:14 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] Correct para about devfs in handbook/basics State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: blackend State-Changed-When: Mon Sep 8 09:39:37 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Fixed thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=56592 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 09:48:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A3616A4BF; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D48243F93; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:48:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h88GmPak053523; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 18:48:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h88GlUAV000665; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 18:47:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h88GlS2n000664; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 18:47:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 18:47:28 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Rob Lahaye Message-ID: <20030908164728.GA647@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <3F5C0CEC.8010203@snu.ac.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F5C0CEC.8010203@snu.ac.kr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: rpratt@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is "Installing FreeBSD Using PPPoE" not included in handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 16:48:34 -0000 On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 02:00:28PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote: > > > Hi, > > Being a PPPoE user myself, I am quite surprised that "Installing FreeBSD > Using PPPoE" is > not included as a section in "Installing FreeBSD" of the handbook. > > It took me quite a while to get to this information. It is indeed a bit > tricky, but nevertheless > so essential to PPPoE users, who want to install via their network > connection. I herewith > also confirm that it works! > > The "Installing FreeBSD Using PPPoE" info pages are at: > > http://www.treefort.org/~rpratt/pppoe/article.html > Randy (rpratt) is one of our committers, maybe he'll add this section when he will have time. Marc Cc: rpratt@ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 11:00:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5AD16A4BF for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F54443FF7 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:00:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h88I0kUp095817 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:00:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h88I0kIK095811 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200309081800.h88I0kIK095811@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 18:00:56 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [2001/10/31] i386/31671 doc 4.4 installer hangs at " Mounting root fr 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [1999/10/04] i386/14135 doc lpt1 nolonger exists after 3.2-RELEASE s [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () o [2002/01/15] ports/33929 doc Section 15.15 of the FreeBSD Porter's Han s [2002/03/08] docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for o [2002/03/21] docs/36168 doc -pthread/_THREAD_SAFE docs missing in gcc o [2002/09/13] docs/42762 doc ppp.8 has no description of $env and ~use o [2002/11/14] docs/45303 doc Bug in PDF DocBook rendering f [2003/02/19] docs/48472 doc Documentation unreadable. o [2003/08/15] docs/55613 doc su man page confusing, probably incorrect 10 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/04/29] docs/26943 doc [patch] description of :C modifier is mis o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/09/27] docs/30873 doc ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2001/11/15] docs/32020 doc loader.8 manpage missing tunables o [2002/01/05] docs/33589 doc Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process . o [2002/01/13] docs/33852 doc split(1) man page implies that input file o [2002/01/14] docs/33877 doc Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non- o [2002/02/15] bin/34955 doc [PATCH] ps(1) is out of touch with realit a [2002/02/16] docs/35011 doc There are no commands called "diskless" o o [2002/02/22] docs/35222 doc mailing list archive URL regexp suboptima o [2002/03/06] docs/35602 doc dump(8)/restore(8) pages don't explain "a o [2002/03/06] docs/35607 doc dump(1) page needs discussion of scary er o [2002/03/06] docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explana o [2002/03/06] docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long era o [2002/03/06] docs/35612 doc ps(1) page "state" description doesn't me o [2002/03/07] docs/35642 doc lo(4) page maybe should document optional o [2002/03/07] docs/35644 doc lo(4) page presumes familiarity with prin o [2002/03/07] docs/35646 doc cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. o [2002/03/07] docs/35647 doc www; combine query-by-number and multi-fi o [2002/03/07] docs/35648 doc rc.conf; add note about "flags" to both f o [2002/03/08] docs/35686 doc blackhole(4) page seems to contradict its o [2002/03/08] docs/35687 doc /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers o [2002/03/09] docs/35711 doc the "gnats page" should move to its own s o [2002/03/10] docs/35732 doc adduser(8) page has obsolete reference an o [2002/03/15] docs/35943 doc at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/ o [2002/03/15] docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wro o [2002/03/20] misc/36154 doc Getting USB mouse to work: usbd and mouse o [2002/03/28] docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded bo o [2002/03/28] docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailin o [2002/05/03] docs/37719 doc Detail VOP_ naming in a relevant man-page s [2002/05/07] docs/37843 doc manual for pthread_setschedparam is wrong o [2002/05/18] docs/38225 doc change "CDROM" to "CD-ROM" o [2002/05/25] docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to exist o [2002/05/27] docs/38620 doc Committers Guide and CVS o [2002/05/31] docs/38772 doc firewall_type feature not mentioned on Ha o [2002/06/07] docs/38982 doc developers-hanbook/Jail fix o [2002/06/12] docs/39213 doc No rc(4) man page o [2002/06/15] docs/39348 doc kenv fetch of hostname requires dhcp/boot o [2002/06/19] docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broa o [2002/06/19] docs/39532 doc 'find' man page should o [2002/06/24] docs/39824 doc Various tweaks for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/bo o [2002/07/04] docs/40196 doc man find does not describe -follow o [2002/07/10] docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to o [2002/07/10] docs/40443 doc Update books/faq/book.sgml for USB .ko's o [2002/07/21] docs/40851 doc [PATCH] "mergemaster -p" in UPDATING's "C o [2002/07/28] docs/41089 doc pax -B option does not mention interactio o [2002/07/29] docs/41110 doc "apropos linux" doesn't find brandelf o [2002/08/02] docs/41270 doc confusing directions for kernelconfig cha o [2002/08/07] docs/41423 doc Update FAQ: attrib command for windows du o [2002/08/18] docs/41761 doc Update for /ru/internal/ part of site o [2002/08/19] docs/41787 doc man page for route (Section 8) missing de o [2002/08/19] docs/41791 doc Documentation formatting error o [2002/08/19] docs/41807 doc natd -punch_fw "bug" o [2002/08/20] docs/41820 doc Device driver confusion in Handbook (2.3) a [2002/08/27] docs/42058 doc Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto o [2002/10/01] docs/43569 doc src/share/examples/worm/README out-of-dat o [2002/10/04] docs/43651 doc stab(5) incorrectly states to include jus o [2002/10/09] docs/43861 doc non-trivial typo in wicontrol man page o [2002/10/11] docs/43941 doc Rationale for Upgrade Sequence o [2002/10/14] docs/44074 doc ln(1) manual clarifications [patch] o [2002/10/23] docs/44400 doc ipfw(8) has contradictions in bridged and o [2002/10/24] docs/44435 doc sysctl manpage: add example for tcsh o [2002/10/29] docs/44594 doc Handbook doesn't mention drivers.flp for o [2002/11/17] docs/45371 doc man page for exports lacks information on o [2002/12/02] docs/45940 doc burncd missing info o [2002/12/11] docs/46181 doc "make fetch-recursive" target description o [2002/12/11] docs/46196 doc Missing return value in (set_)menu_format o [2002/12/11] docs/46200 doc fix for ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/porters-handbo o [2002/12/16] docs/46291 doc correlation between HZ kernel config para o [2002/12/16] docs/46295 doc please add information to Nvi recovery em o [2003/01/02] docs/46709 doc tables in terminfo.5 are broken o [2003/01/05] docs/46793 doc DEVICE_POLLING can not be used with SMP, o [2003/01/14] docs/47085 doc boot(8) manpage is incomplete according t o [2003/01/27] docs/47575 doc Clarify requirements for IPFW2 in STABLE o [2003/01/28] docs/47594 doc [PATH] passwd(5) incorrectly states allow o [2003/01/30] docs/47690 doc builtin(1) manpage is wrong about externa o [2003/01/30] docs/47705 doc wc(1) manpage has poor explanations. f [2003/02/02] docs/47818 doc ln(1) manpage is confusing f [2003/02/07] docs/48038 doc [PATCH] add Tips and Tricks section into o [2003/02/12] docs/48210 doc make -q only does what the manpage says i o [2003/02/28] docs/48767 doc wrong key numbers for left/right windows o [2003/03/06] docs/48980 doc [PATCH] nsgmls -s errors and sect. 3.2.1 o [2003/03/14] docs/50013 doc [PATCH] add much more russian holydays o [2003/03/23] docs/50211 doc [PATCH] Fix textfile creation o [2003/03/27] docs/50349 doc make release fails with NO_OPENSSH and ! f [2003/03/28] docs/50391 doc Incorrect information in a man o [2003/04/03] docs/50573 doc return values for res_query/res_search/re f [2003/04/07] docs/50677 doc [PATCH] update doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ o [2003/04/10] docs/50773 doc NFS problems by jumbo frames to mention i o [2003/05/06] docs/51875 doc atkbd(4) adjustment o [2003/05/06] docs/51891 doc DIAGNOSTICS in ed driver manpage don't ma o [2003/05/07] docs/51921 doc ls(1) manpage lacks some information abou o [2003/05/11] docs/52071 doc [PATCH] Add more information about soft u o [2003/05/25] docs/52672 doc Porter's Handbook: couple of corrections o [2003/06/02] docs/52878 doc [PATCH] security(7): small clairification o [2003/06/13] docs/53303 doc mount(2) man page error o [2003/06/14] docs/53315 doc [PATCH] remove extraneous whitespace at t o [2003/06/18] docs/53454 doc wrong sample code in manpage of wcwidth(3 o [2003/06/19] docs/53501 doc [PATCH] Handbook: update snapshots sectio o [2003/06/20] docs/53575 doc Change to Handbook Section 20.9 o [2003/06/21] docs/53596 doc Updates to mt manual page o [2003/06/25] docs/53732 doc quota output and man page do not document o [2003/06/26] docs/53751 doc bus_dma(9) incorrectly documents BUS_DMA_ o [2003/07/07] docs/54197 doc Mentioning of devfs is missing in the Ger o [2003/07/11] docs/54380 doc [PATCH] document additional perl variable o [2003/07/11] docs/54391 doc Document that glob(3) respects LC_COLLATE o [2003/07/20] docs/54678 doc [patch] add PACKAGESITE to packages chapt o [2003/07/22] docs/54752 doc bus_dma explained in ISA section: should o [2003/07/22] docs/54769 doc [patch] updates to FAQ o [2003/07/23] docs/54789 doc [PATCH] brush up the "New Users" article o [2003/07/24] docs/54806 doc [patch] adds fvwm2 to x11-wm o [2003/07/25] docs/54879 doc man 1 jot, -r description o [2003/07/28] docs/54995 doc Error in accept(2) man page o [2003/07/28] docs/54999 doc Documentation Project Primer doesn't conf o [2003/08/03] docs/55207 doc [patch] update acroread section & add loc o [2003/08/03] docs/55226 doc [PATCH] handbook: add nonbreaking spaces o [2003/08/05] docs/55276 doc [patch] Update tuning.7 to reflect phk's o [2003/08/06] docs/55306 doc [patch] adds filemanagers to desktop appl o [2003/08/10] docs/55445 doc [PATCH] off-by-one bug in example code o [2003/08/11] docs/55458 doc [patch] add useful content & hints to por o [2003/08/11] docs/55482 doc DUMP has access to block devices in a JAI o [2003/08/13] docs/55538 doc [patch] add screenshots to desktop chapte o [2003/08/13] docs/55559 doc [PATCH] catch up rl(4) with hardware note o [2003/08/16] docs/55653 doc chflags.1 - note that not all tools chfla o [2003/08/20] docs/55805 doc a little correction to the arch-handbook o [2003/08/22] docs/55883 doc advanced-networking/chapter.sgml o [2003/08/26] docs/56021 doc Documentation incorrect for mac in ipfw2 o [2003/09/04] docs/56408 doc [PATCH] add around app-default o [2003/09/04] docs/56452 doc [patch]Add EXTRACT_DEPENDS&PATCH_DEPENDS o [2003/09/08] docs/56584 doc Updates for VOP_GETPAGES(9) and VOP_PUTPA 133 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 12:05:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69FE16A4BF for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9710D43FE9 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:05:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (acs-24-154-239-225.zoominternet.net [24.154.239.225]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h88J5Svd023002 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 15:05:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 14:22:54 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20030908142254.3592ed0d.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Pre-commit review requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 19:05:31 -0000 Any -doc committer want to review the following patch. It is by no way an in depth cleanup, but it will take us (myself anyway) one step further toward my goal of a good security chapter. This diff: o Adds , , and other tags as required. o Uses the &os; entity. o Cleans up the introduction by pointing out what version of Kerberos is in what FreeBSD Release. o Modifies and title's to help seperate KerberosIV and Kerberos5. I'm only looking for either objections or "please commit"s and would rather not bounce this around for the next three days. Thanks! -- Tom Rhodes --- chapter.sgml Mon Sep 8 14:16:05 2003 +++ chapter.new Mon Sep 8 14:13:32 2003 @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ This chapter will provide a basic introduction to system security concepts, some general good rules of thumb, and some advanced topics - under FreeBSD. A lot of the topics covered here can be applied + under &os;. A lot of the topics covered here can be applied to system and Internet security in general as well. The Internet is no longer a friendly place in which everyone wants to be your kind neighbor. Securing your system is imperative @@ -39,12 +39,12 @@ - Basic system security concepts, in respect to FreeBSD. + Basic system security concepts, in respect to &os;. - About the various crypt mechanisms available in FreeBSD, - such as DES and MD5. + About the various crypt mechanisms available in &os;, + such as DES and MD5. @@ -52,27 +52,32 @@ - How to set up Kerberos, another alternative - authentication system. + How to set up KerberosIV on &os; + releases prior to 5.0. - How to create firewalls using IPFW. + How to set up Kerberos5 on + post &os; 5.0 releases. - How to configure IPsec and create a VPN between - FreeBSD/&windows; machines. + How to create firewalls using IPFW. + + + + How to configure IPsec and create a VPN between + &os;/&windows; machines. - How to configure and use OpenSSH, FreeBSD's SSH + How to configure and use OpenSSH, &os;'s SSH implementation. How to configure and load access control extension - modules using the TrustedBSD MAC Framework. + modules using the TrustedBSD MAC Framework. @@ -85,7 +90,7 @@ - Understand basic FreeBSD and Internet concepts. + Understand basic &os; and Internet concepts. @@ -1433,7 +1438,7 @@ - + @@ -1451,8 +1456,8 @@ - Kerberos - Kerberos + KerberosIV + KerberosIV Kerberos is a network add-on system/protocol that allows users to authenticate themselves through the services of a secure server. @@ -1472,7 +1477,7 @@ Kerberos installing - Kerberos is an optional component of FreeBSD. The easiest + Kerberos is an optional component of &os;. The easiest way to install this software is by selecting the krb4 or krb5 distribution in sysinstall during the initial installation of FreeBSD. This will install @@ -1939,6 +1944,8 @@ <application>Kerberos5</application> + + Kerberos5 Every &os; release beyond &os;-5.1 includes support only for Kerberos5. Hence From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 12:45:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842B816A4BF; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6679743FBF; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:45:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 514E510BF8C; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 21:45:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 21:45:53 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: "Bruce A. Mah" Message-ID: <20030908194551.GD390@FreeBSD.org> References: <200309081453.h88Er29F069868@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030908161913.GA22709@intruder.kitchenlab.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030908161913.GA22709@intruder.kitchenlab.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/early-adopter article.sgml src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/errata article.sgml src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/readme article.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 19:45:55 -0000 --HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.09.08 09:19:13 -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > The problem is that "Sparc64(R)" or "Sparc64" is not what we call the > platform, it's "sparc64". (Think of "/usr/src/sys/sparc64".) In my > mind, the use of "sparc64" above is just one step away from a > filename, even though I never marked it up as such. I think there was > a use of "i386" that was similar. It's not clear to me what's the > right thing here. Hmm, I see your point. I think we need some way of differentiating between Sparc64, the hardware architecture (just as an example, same applies to i386/PowerPC/...), and the FreeBSD version running on Sparc64 (sometimes called FreeBSD/sparc64). The most unambiguous way would be to use FreeBSD/(sparc64|i386|powerpc|...) but that might be a bit to "verbose"... How about making entities for the FreeBSD architectures. E.g. &os.sparc64;, &os.i386; and so on. It might be overkill, but it would make it unambiguous what is meant in the DocBook source. Might be overkill though. > A more clear-cut case: What if I have some text that says "look in the > sparc64 directory". Does this become the > (completely incorrect) "look in the &sparc64; > directory"? No, in those cases I have just left the original text with no trademark symbol (in general, not specificly in the release documentation). > No criticism intended, this is good work. I'm just trying to wrap my > mind around it, as well as figure out all the implications of these > changes. Well, there are some cases where it's a bit unclear if the use of a word that is a trademark should be marked up as such, so I would be a bit surprised if there weren't some occurrences where I chose incorrectly. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/XNxvh9pcDSc1mlERAoTaAKCWpj7i99ZhrPrGJ80mo6Y0QyXx8QCdFTBB BKZYn2YXmWsmtY4vgQYq54E= =S+M2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 15:31:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D629716A4BF; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 15:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (ms-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D2E4401E; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 15:31:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@unixpages.org) Received: from r220-1 (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HKX00E3Z2JP66@ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de>; Tue, 09 Sep 2003 00:31:01 +0200 (MEST) Received: from relay.RWTH-Aachen.DE ([134.130.3.1]) by r220-1 (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Tue, 09 Sep 2003 00:31:00 +0200 (MEST) Received: from haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (daemon@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.181.92]) h88MV0ni025825; Tue, 09 Sep 2003 00:31:00 +0200 (MEST) Received: from gondor.middleearth (gondor.middleearth [192.168.1.42]) by haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EA71C; Mon, 08 Sep 2003 22:31:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: by gondor.middleearth (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 90B3744FC; Tue, 09 Sep 2003 00:30:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 00:30:59 +0200 From: Christian Brueffer In-reply-to: <20030908142254.3592ed0d.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> To: Tom Rhodes Message-id: <20030908223058.GD19937@unixpages.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary=Ycz6tD7Th1CMF4v7; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT X-PGP-Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D References: <20030908142254.3592ed0d.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> cc: FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pre-commit review requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 22:31:14 -0000 --Ycz6tD7Th1CMF4v7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 02:22:54PM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Any -doc committer want to review the following patch. It is by no > way an in depth cleanup, but it will take us (myself anyway) one > step further toward my goal of a good security chapter. >=20 > This diff: >=20 > o Adds , , and other tags as required. > o Uses the &os; entity. > o Cleans up the introduction by pointing out what > version of Kerberos is in what FreeBSD Release. > o Modifies and title's to help seperate KerberosIV and Kerber= os5. >=20 > I'm only looking for either objections or "please commit"s and would rath= er > not bounce this around for the next three days. Thanks! >=20 [patch] Looks good to me. - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --Ycz6tD7Th1CMF4v7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/XQMibHYXjKDtmC0RAujCAJ9r6LpU4c0ZK3EvmkNflPshoxJ2bACeMkd3 pL2j1ZRRjn5/+uqz57jAgyI= =nZ2o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Ycz6tD7Th1CMF4v7-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 15:56:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47A116A4BF; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 15:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chimera.noanet.net (chimera.noanet.net [66.119.192.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D374543FBF; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 15:56:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mksmith@noanet.net) Received: from [64.81.189.2] (mksmith@mks733.mks.noanet.net [64.81.189.2]) by chimera.noanet.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h88Mu8g3047379; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 15:56:08 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 15:56:07 -0700 From: "Michael K. Smith" To: Tom Rhodes , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20030908142254.3592ed0d.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Pre-commit review requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 22:56:12 -0000 On 9/8/03 11:22 AM, "Tom Rhodes" wrote: > Any -doc committer want to review the following patch. It is by no > way an in depth cleanup, but it will take us (myself anyway) one > step further toward my goal of a good security chapter. > > This diff: > > o Adds , , and other tags as required. > o Uses the &os; entity. > o Cleans up the introduction by pointing out what > version of Kerberos is in what FreeBSD Release. > o Modifies and title's to help seperate KerberosIV and Kerberos5. > > I'm only looking for either objections or "please commit"s and would rather > not bounce this around for the next three days. Thanks! Shouldn't: + About the various crypt mechanisms available in &os;, + such as DES and MD5. Be: + About the various crypt mechanisms available in &os;, + such as DES and MD5. Mike -- Michael K. Smith NoaNet 206.219.7116 (work) 206.579.8360 (cell) mksmith@noanet.net http://www.noanet.net From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 05:10:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0227116A4BF for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 05:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B6244008 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 05:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h89CA1Up004825 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 05:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h89CA1YK004824; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 05:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 05:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200309091210.h89CA1YK004824@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Denis Peplin Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE4416A4BF for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 05:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vsmi.ru (ns.vsmi.ru [217.23.84.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3490143FE5 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 05:08:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@volginfo.ru) Received: by vsmi.ru (Postfix, from userid 426) id 766727C38; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 16:08:57 +0400 (MSD) Received: from exp.local (unknown [192.168.0.199]) by vsmi.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9A37C21 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 16:08:57 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <200309091608.37802.info@volginfo.ru> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 16:08:37 +0400 From: Denis Peplin To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: docs/56627: [PATCH] handbook/ports: net/mozilla -> www/mozilla (no such package) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 12:10:05 -0000 >Number: 56627 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] handbook/ports: net/mozilla -> www/mozilla (no such package) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Sep 09 05:10:01 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: User & >Release: FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p2 i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.206 diff -u -r1.206 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 20 Aug 2003 22:38:04 -0000 1.206 +++ chapter.sgml 9 Sep 2003 12:04:34 -0000 @@ -949,7 +949,7 @@ which can enable/disable parts of the application which are unneeded, certain security options, and other customizations. A few which come to mind are net/mozilla, www/mozilla, security/gpgme, and mail/sylpheed-claws. A message will be displayed when options such as these are >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 05:21:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA43116A4BF; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 05:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E7F43FE0; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 05:21:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (simon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h89CLjUp005676; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 05:21:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from simon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h89CLj7R005672; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 05:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 05:21:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-Id: <200309091221.h89CLj7R005672@freefall.freebsd.org> To: info@volginfo.ru, simon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/56627: [PATCH] handbook/ports: net/mozilla -> www/mozilla (no such package) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 12:21:46 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] handbook/ports: net/mozilla -> www/mozilla (no such package) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: simon State-Changed-When: Tue Sep 9 05:21:36 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=56627 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 07:54:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5659D16A4BF; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 07:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net (mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B8443F85; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 07:54:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpratt1950@earthlink.net) Received: from user86.net972.fl.sprint-hsd.net ([69.34.137.86] helo=kt.weeble.com) by mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19wjt4-0004ln-00; Tue, 09 Sep 2003 07:54:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 10:54:33 -0400 From: Randy Pratt To: Marc Fonvieille Message-Id: <20030909105433.2724531a.rpratt1950@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <20030908164728.GA647@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <3F5C0CEC.8010203@snu.ac.kr> <20030908164728.GA647@nosferatu.blackend.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.2 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: lahaye@snu.ac.kr cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: rpratt@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is "Installing FreeBSD Using PPPoE" not included in handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 14:54:36 -0000 On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 18:47:28 +0200 Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 02:00:28PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Being a PPPoE user myself, I am quite surprised that "Installing FreeBSD > > Using PPPoE" is > > not included as a section in "Installing FreeBSD" of the handbook. > > > > It took me quite a while to get to this information. It is indeed a bit > > tricky, but nevertheless > > so essential to PPPoE users, who want to install via their network > > connection. I herewith > > also confirm that it works! > > > > The "Installing FreeBSD Using PPPoE" info pages are at: > > > > http://www.treefort.org/~rpratt/pppoe/article.html > > > > Randy (rpratt) is one of our committers, maybe he'll add this section > when he will have time. I think we discussed this in April. http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=120743+0+archive/2003/freebsd-doc/20030413.freebsd-doc I'm still very reluctant to add work-arounds to the handbook for an installation method that is not officially supported by sysinstall especially when it would involve instructions to ignore warnings and error messages. The method I described is probably far from ideal and has had very little testing. I also have an idea that the process could be done from the virtual console much cleaner but I've not had the time to do any testing to verify this. I'll try to take a look at this in the near future. I think the best approach is to file a PR to request adding a PPPoE installation option to sysinstall. I appreciate your interest in this since it does fill a small niche but I'm sure you can understand that if we put something in the Handbook, we want to be sure that it is correct and done in the best manner. Thanks again, Randy -- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 08:40:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E87716A4BF for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC2643FE9 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h89Fe8Up056767 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h89Fe8eJ056766; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200309091540.h89Fe8eJ056766@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Josef El-Rayes Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16E416A4BF for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ac-net.at (secure.ac-net.at [212.24.125.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D663844003 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shammer@daemon.li) Received: from localhost (server.ac-net.at [127.0.0.1]) with ESMTP id C22B83F1C for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 17:32:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from daemon.li (dsl-154-212.utaonline.at [62.218.154.212]) with SMTP id 57F4B3F13 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 15:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1048 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2003 15:32:24 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO daemon.li) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Sep 2003 15:32:24 -0000 Received: (from shammer@localhost) by daemon.li (8.12.6/8.12.7/Submit) id h89FWNVB001046; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 17:32:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from shammer) Message-Id: <200309091532.h89FWNVB001046@daemon.li> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 17:32:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Josef El-Rayes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/56639: [patch] articles/pxe: fix broken url X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josef El-Rayes List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 15:40:10 -0000 >Number: 56639 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] articles/pxe: fix broken url >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Sep 09 08:40:07 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Josef El-Rayes >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD daemon.li 4.8-STABLE FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #8: Tue Jul 22 18:16:23 CEST 2003 root@daemon.li:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM i386 >Description: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/pxe/article.sgml: the current urls to the floppy images are broken, i use the ones in the handbook instead. maybe we should have a "latest" symlink on the ftp server to avoid updating the link on every release. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- article.sgml.diff begins here --- --- article.sgml.orig Tue Sep 9 17:27:14 2003 +++ article.sgml Tue Sep 9 17:29:19 2003 @@ -133,9 +133,9 @@ Download bootfiles: Download the - + kern.flp and - + mfsroot.flp floppy images. --- article.sgml.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 09:10:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01BA16A4C0 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 09:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364D243FE9 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 09:10:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h89GA4Up061282 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 09:10:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h89GA4Kx061281; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 09:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 09:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200309091610.h89GA4Kx061281@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Josef El-Rayes Subject: Re: docs/56639: [patch] articles/pxe: fix broken url X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josef El-Rayes List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 16:10:04 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/56639; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Josef El-Rayes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/56639: [patch] articles/pxe: fix broken url Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 18:05:19 +0200 --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Josef El-Rayes wrote: add entity to keep us from needing to update the link (thanks to simon) -josef --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="article.sgml.diff" --- article.sgml.orig Tue Sep 9 17:27:14 2003 +++ article.sgml Tue Sep 9 18:03:02 2003 @@ -5,6 +5,9 @@ %authors; + +%freebsd; + ]>
@@ -133,9 +136,9 @@ Download bootfiles: Download the - + kern.flp and - + mfsroot.flp floppy images. --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 10:09:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAEC16A4BF for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 10:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from me.ru (shell.me.ru [194.247.134.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B056643FAF for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 10:09:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 21:09:29 +0400 Message-ID: X-Autogenerated: Reply From: "Igor Vinokurov" To: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re:Approved X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 17:09:29 -0000 Hello! This mail address is not in use now, because too much spam is coming on it. Please try to contact me any other way. Respectfully, Igor Vinokurov From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 18:31:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A7316A4BF for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 18:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [65.173.111.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A089F43FDD for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 18:31:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8A1V9Cu068996 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:31:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) with ESMTP id h8A1V9Ga068993 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:31:09 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:31:09 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030909191117.H68939@wonkity.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Backup Chapter Updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 01:31:11 -0000 Browsing through the Backup chapter today, I saw the script for generating a bootable floppy. Problem #1: the kernel config file shown has quite a bit of obsolete stuff. Problem #2: okay, how about manually trimming everything possible out of the 4.8 GENERIC kernel config file? It turns out that trimming it down to fit on the approximate 273K of free space on a 1.4M floppy is impossible. The questions: If current releases of FreeBSD (4/5) will only fit on a rare 2.8M floppy, is it worth updating that section of the Backup chapter rather than removing it? El Torito bootable CDs can use a 2.8M floppy image; should the script and instructions be modified to produce such an image, and just forget floppies? Instructions on building a bootable recovery disk seem a little out of place in the Backup chapter anyway. Bootable CDs and LiveCDs have been a topic of discussion on -questions, too. Is there a more appropriate place for this type of material, or is the subject worthy of a chapter by itself? Off-hand, I can think of a bunch of URLs that could be included in such a chapter: FreeSBIE, the original Brazilian LiveCD, MiniBSD, and some of the other small installs meant for embedded Soekris-type use. But what do you call such a chapter? "Minimizing FreeBSD", maybe? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 23:42:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32DC16A4BF; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 23:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797AF43F85; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 23:42:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roam@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (roam@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8A6gHUp041059; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 23:42:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roam@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from roam@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8A6gGT1041055; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 23:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 23:42:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Pentchev Message-Id: <200309100642.h8A6gGT1041055@freefall.freebsd.org> To: grg@ridley.unimelb.edu.au, roam@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, roam@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/56021: Documentation incorrect for mac in ipfw2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 06:42:18 -0000 Synopsis: Documentation incorrect for mac in ipfw2 State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: roam State-Changed-When: Tue Sep 9 23:41:28 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Committed to -CURRENT, I will merge it into -STABLE in a month, after the code freeze for 4.9-RELEASE is over. Thanks for reporting this! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->roam Responsible-Changed-By: roam Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Sep 9 23:41:28 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I will handle the MFC. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=56021 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 08:51:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B9C16A4BF; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7594543FCB; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:51:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (acs-24-154-239-225.zoominternet.net [24.154.239.225]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h8AFoqvd028265; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:50:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:08:24 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Christian Brueffer Message-Id: <20030910110824.6caa54e4.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030908223058.GD19937@unixpages.org> References: <20030908142254.3592ed0d.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030908223058.GD19937@unixpages.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Tom Rhodes cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Pre-commit review requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:51:02 -0000 On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 00:30:59 +0200 Christian Brueffer wrote: > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 02:22:54PM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > Any -doc committer want to review the following patch. It is by no > > way an in depth cleanup, but it will take us (myself anyway) one > > step further toward my goal of a good security chapter. > > > > This diff: > > > > o Adds , , and other tags as required. > > o Uses the &os; entity. > > o Cleans up the introduction by pointing out what > > version of Kerberos is in what FreeBSD Release. > > o Modifies and title's to help seperate KerberosIV and Kerberos5. > > > > I'm only looking for either objections or "please commit"s and would rather > > not bounce this around for the next three days. Thanks! > > > > [patch] > > Looks good to me. > Yes, it looks good. But there is a problem, it breaks. Notice the unclosed tags which I neglected, but my make lint pre-commit test actually caught that. :) -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 08:58:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D6116A4BF; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E3D43FDF; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:58:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (acs-24-154-239-225.zoominternet.net [24.154.239.225]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h8AFw1vd028288; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:58:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:15:32 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: "Michael K. Smith" Message-Id: <20030910111532.2ad0d166.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20030908142254.3592ed0d.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Tom Rhodes cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Pre-commit review requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:58:05 -0000 On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 15:56:07 -0700 "Michael K. Smith" wrote: > On 9/8/03 11:22 AM, "Tom Rhodes" wrote: > > > Any -doc committer want to review the following patch. It is by no > > way an in depth cleanup, but it will take us (myself anyway) one > > step further toward my goal of a good security chapter. > > > > This diff: > > > > o Adds , , and other tags as required. > > o Uses the &os; entity. > > o Cleans up the introduction by pointing out what > > version of Kerberos is in what FreeBSD Release. > > o Modifies and title's to help seperate KerberosIV and Kerberos5. > > > > I'm only looking for either objections or "please commit"s and would rather > > not bounce this around for the next three days. Thanks! > > Shouldn't: > > + About the various crypt mechanisms available in &os;, > + such as DES and MD5. > > Be: > > + About the various crypt mechanisms available in &os;, > + such as DES and MD5. > I incorporated this into my commit, thanks! -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 11:30:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FB716A4BF for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF7B43FA3 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:30:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8AIUCUp046873 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:30:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8AIUCcr046872; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200309101830.h8AIUCcr046872@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, "Chris S.J.Peron" Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A9816A4BF for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from staff.seccuris.com (staff.seccuris.com [204.112.0.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F62243FBF for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:20:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cperon@staff.seccuris.com) Received: (qmail 83978 invoked by uid 1006); 10 Sep 2003 18:20:29 -0000 Message-Id: <20030910182029.83977.qmail@staff.seccuris.com> Date: 10 Sep 2003 18:20:29 -0000 From: "Chris S.J.Peron" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/56683: [patch] EPIPE is not documented in the send(2) man page. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Chris S.J.Peron" List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:30:14 -0000 >Number: 56683 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] EPIPE is not documented in the send(2) man page. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Sep 10 11:30:12 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris S.J. Peron >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD movl 5.1-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT #14: Mon Aug 25 17:22:40 CDT 2003 modulus@movl:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/RAID0 i386 >Description: EPIPE occurs when SS_CANTSENDMORE is set on the socket. This is not documented in the man page. (typically when a socket is not connected) >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: --- lib/libc/sys/send.2 Thu Dec 19 03:40:25 2002 +++ lib/libc/sys/send.2.modified Wed Sep 10 12:53:04 2003 @@ -189,6 +189,10 @@ The remote host was down. .It Bq Er ENETDOWN The remote network was down. +.It Bq Er EPIPE +The socket is unable to send anymore data (SS_CANTSENDMORE has +been set on the socket). This typically means that the socket +is not connected. .El .Sh BUGS Because >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 11:51:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6049B16A4BF for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:51:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7515843FCB for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:51:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (acs-24-154-239-225.zoominternet.net [24.154.239.225]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h8AIp4vd028609 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:51:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:08:35 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20030910140835.63751f1f.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Indexterm generation problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:51:06 -0000 Hello -doc team, While testing out the new indexterms I'm adding in the Kerberos sections i've come across the following during the build. Processing html-split.index... 925 entries loaded... duplicated index entry found, 386BSD duplicated index entry found, ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES duplicated index entry found, KERMIT duplicated index entry found, MAKEDEV duplicated index entry found, NET/2 duplicated index entry found, NETGROUPS duplicated index entry found, PKG_ADD duplicated index entry found, U.C. BERKELEY 8 entries ignored... Done. This was done with: %make GEN_INDEX=yes I cannot remember who is working on the indexterms task, but this is something they should look at. -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 12:02:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BD616A4BF for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:02:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390B943FB1 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:02:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h8AJ2Dak011722 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:02:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8AJ1MmA002518 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:01:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8AJ1MSv002517 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:01:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Resent-Message-Id: <200309101901.h8AJ1MSv002517@nosferatu.blackend.org> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:28:13 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20030910072813.GA573@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <20030909191117.H68939@wonkity.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030909191117.H68939@wonkity.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Resent-From: marc@blackend.org Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:01:22 +0200 Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Backup Chapter Updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:02:24 -0000 On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 07:31:09PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > Browsing through the Backup chapter today, I saw the script for > generating a bootable floppy. > > Problem #1: the kernel config file shown has quite a bit of obsolete > stuff. > > Problem #2: okay, how about manually trimming everything possible out of > the 4.8 GENERIC kernel config file? It turns out that trimming it down > to fit on the approximate 273K of free space on a 1.4M floppy is > impossible. > It's possible to create a 1.4MB floppy for the backup purpose. > The questions: > > If current releases of FreeBSD (4/5) will only fit on a rare 2.8M > floppy, is it worth updating that section of the Backup chapter rather > than removing it? > You talk about GENERIC kernels and so, in a backup case, no one needs a GENERIC kernel. I have the update of that part in my (long) TODO list :)) > El Torito bootable CDs can use a 2.8M floppy image; should the script > and instructions be modified to produce such an image, and just forget > floppies? > The live CD (CD #2) is there for that, but I don't think "forget" floppies is a good idea cause when a problem occurs, it's still faster and easier to write a floppy in many cases. > Instructions on building a bootable recovery disk seem a little out of > place in the Backup chapter anyway. Hmm why? Backups also exist for the case a bad thing happens, so some instructions about recovery is not out of context. > Bootable CDs and LiveCDs have been > a topic of discussion on -questions, too. Is there a more appropriate > place for this type of material, or is the subject worthy of a chapter > by itself? Off-hand, I can think of a bunch of URLs that could be > included in such a chapter: FreeSBIE, the original Brazilian LiveCD, > MiniBSD, and some of the other small installs meant for embedded > Soekris-type use. But what do you call such a chapter? "Minimizing > FreeBSD", maybe? > It's a very technical thing, and a livecd (most of people see it as a Knoppix clone) is really different from a "reduced system" on many points. About small installations, some knobs have been added to the "world" but building a system for an embedded system is still difficult (asks for a good knowledge of FreeBSD), a lot of ways are possible. For example I use a custom PicoBSD with my soekris board, some others use in part rescue system, etc. So I'm not sure the Handbook would be the right place for this. A good (large) article would be perhaps a good thing. However, if it's just a question of adding URLs, the FAQ would be the right place. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 12:20:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B28116A4BF; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C0E43FA3; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:20:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (roberto@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8AJKuUp052751; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:20:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from roberto@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8AJKtsd052747; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:20:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <200309101920.h8AJKtsd052747@freefall.freebsd.org> To: maneo@bsdpro.com, roberto@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/56683: [patch] EPIPE is not documented in the send(2) man page. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:20:56 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] EPIPE is not documented in the send(2) man page. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: roberto State-Changed-When: Wed Sep 10 12:20:22 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Patch committedi in revision 1.22, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=56683 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 06:39:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CAB16A4BF for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.zsea.zp.ua (zsea.zp.ua [212.8.40.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F30E43FE0 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:39:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from laa@mx1.zsea.zp.ua) Received: by mx1.zsea.zp.ua (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 06C372AB42; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:39:25 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:39:25 +0300 From: Oleksandr Listopad To: doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030911133925.GH5402@zgia.zp.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailer: Mutt X-PGP-Key: http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xF3FFC401 Subject: ports-dns & handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:39:30 -0000 hi! There no ports-dns/ports-polish in current handbook. Please, add it. -- Laa From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 16:50:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A155616A4BF for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:50:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ac-net.at (secure.ac-net.at [212.24.125.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19F543FF9 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:50:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shammer@daemon.li) Received: from localhost (server.ac-net.at [127.0.0.1]) with ESMTP id A665F3F0D for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:50:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from daemon.li (dsl-234-129.utaonline.at [212.152.234.129]) with SMTP id 3E98A3F01 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 23:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2344 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2003 23:50:20 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO daemon.li) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Sep 2003 23:50:20 -0000 Received: (from shammer@localhost) by daemon.li (8.12.6/8.12.7/Submit) id h8BNoK3n002342 for freebsd-docs@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:50:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from shammer) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:50:20 +0200 From: Josef El-Rayes To: freebsd-docs@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030911235020.GA2098@daemon.li> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Reply-Path: j.el-rayes@daemon.li X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12 with AC-networks extensions Subject: author's email adress X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.el-rayes@daemon.li List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 23:50:14 -0000 hi! i was wondering why there is no email adress of the author of articles available. i think adding something like: Joe Randmon jr@freebsd.org would be quite useful for people that have questions after reading the article as specific questions might be best answered by the author himself. status-quo makes it very hard to find out how to contact the author directly. tell me what you think of it. -josef -- www: http://www.daemon.li nic-hdl: JER1080312-NICAT BSD in AT: www.bsdcode.at "Make World - Not War!" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 16:54:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6499016A4BF for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org [198.22.63.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F1443FAF for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:54:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (mwlucas@localhost.blackhelicopters.org [127.0.0.1])h8C00qLw044229; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:00:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost)h8C00qo0044228; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:00:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:00:52 -0400 From: "Michael W. Lucas" To: Josef El-Rayes Message-ID: <20030912000052.GA44177@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> References: <20030911235020.GA2098@daemon.li> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030911235020.GA2098@daemon.li> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=4.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: freebsd-docs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: author's email adress X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 23:54:28 -0000 Hi, Frequently, the "original author" would not recognize the document as it exists in the doc repository. Many documents have been rewritten over the years. Also, just because someone wrote a document doesn't mean that they want to answer questions about it. That's what mailing lists are for. :-) ==ml On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 01:50:20AM +0200, Josef El-Rayes wrote: > hi! > > i was wondering why there is no email adress of the author of articles > available. i think adding something like: > > > Joe > Randmon > jr@freebsd.org > > > would be quite useful for people that have questions after reading the > article as specific questions might be best answered by the author > himself. status-quo makes it very hard to find out how to contact the > author directly. > > tell me what you think of it. > > -josef > -- > www: http://www.daemon.li > nic-hdl: JER1080312-NICAT > BSD in AT: www.bsdcode.at > "Make World - Not War!" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org Today's chance of throwing it all away to start a goat farm: 41.8% http://www.BlackHelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Absolute OpenBSD: http://www.AbsoluteOpenBSD.com/ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 00:30:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDB216A4BF for ; 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Fri, 12 Sep 2003 00:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lyra.enemy.org (lyra.enemy.org [62.116.11.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6333643F85 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 00:19:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shammer@satanii.enemy.org) Received: (qmail 20909 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2003 07:18:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satanii.enemy.org) (62.116.11.3) by lyra.enemy.org with SMTP; 12 Sep 2003 07:18:29 -0000 Received: from satanii.enemy.org (shammer@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by satanii.enemy.org (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8C7Jf52083668 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:19:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from shammer@satanii.enemy.org) Received: (from shammer@localhost) by satanii.enemy.org (8.12.6p2/8.12.6/Submit) id h8C7JeFk083667; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:19:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200309120719.h8C7JeFk083667@satanii.enemy.org> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:19:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Josef El-Rayes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/56729: [patch] artciles/pr-guidelines: explain meaning of MFC X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josef El-Rayes List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 07:30:23 -0000 >Number: 56729 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] artciles/pr-guidelines: explain meaning of MFC >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Sep 12 00:30:21 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Josef El-Rayes >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE alpha >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD satanii.enemy.org 4.7-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE #3: Sun Oct 13 23:53:31 CEST 2002 root@satanii.enemy.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/S2 alpha >Description: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/pr-guidelines/article.sgml: this patch adds a note explaining the meaning of MFC, as this term is used quite often in the article without explanation - this term is also used quite often in other articles hardly explained. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- article.sgml.diff begins here --- --- article.sgml.orig Fri Sep 12 01:30:28 2003 +++ article.sgml Fri Sep 12 01:33:04 2003 @@ -122,7 +122,12 @@ MFCed, then closes it. + + MFC means Merge From CURRENT, the action of + merging a tested change from the -CURRENT development branch to + the -STABLE branch. + Many PRs are submitted with very little information about the problem, and some are either very complex to solve, or --- article.sgml.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 01:20:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0007316A4BF for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787A543FDF for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8C8KAUp072894 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8C8KADP072893; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200309120820.h8C8KADP072893@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Christian Brueffer Subject: Re: docs/56729: [patch] artciles/pr-guidelines: explain meaning of MFC X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Christian Brueffer List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 08:20:11 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/56729; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Christian Brueffer To: Josef El-Rayes Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/56729: [patch] artciles/pr-guidelines: explain meaning of MFC Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:13:32 +0200 --qxfKREH7IwbezJ+T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 09:19:40AM +0200, Josef El-Rayes wrote: >=20 > --- article.sgml.diff begins here --- > --- article.sgml.orig Fri Sep 12 01:30:28 2003 > +++ article.sgml Fri Sep 12 01:33:04 2003 > @@ -122,7 +122,12 @@ > MFCed, then closes it. > > >=20 > + > + MFC means Merge From CURRENT, the action of > + merging a tested change from the -CURRENT development branch to=20 > + the -STABLE branch. > + > > Many PRs are submitted with very little information about > the problem, and some are either very complex to solve, or > --- article.sgml.diff ends here --- >=20 This is already covered in the FAQ. I think if anything, a link should suffice. - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --qxfKREH7IwbezJ+T Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/YYAsbHYXjKDtmC0RAjZBAKCiEbblVJlyTx/3ffo+ISFEmVzbNwCggb+6 fZNc3UJgJrHNiW0jpR5d2OM= =HzvA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qxfKREH7IwbezJ+T-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 01:36:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C3E16A4BF for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amsfep11-int.chello.nl (amsfep11-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E1243FAF for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:36:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dodell@sitetronics.com) Received: from sitetronics.com ([213.46.142.207]) by amsfep11-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20030912083625.KXCU4496.amsfep11-int.chello.nl@sitetronics.com>; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:36:25 +0200 Message-ID: <3F618551.7020904@sitetronics.com> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:35:29 +0200 From: "Devon H. O'Dell" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030820 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael W. Lucas" References: <20030911235020.GA2098@daemon.li> <20030912000052.GA44177@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> In-Reply-To: <20030912000052.GA44177@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-docs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: author's email adress X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 08:36:28 -0000 Well, nobody says it has to be the original author -- in fact, my interpretation was that multiple people contributing to one document would all be listed. But giving credits for contributing authors in relevant places doesn't sound like a bad idea to me. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing credit where it's due... and personally, the only reason I would email the author would be to congratulate him/her for the documentation ;). Authors who don't want (their email address?) to be listed could state that when writing the documentation. Anyway it'd be nice to see if for nothing more than purpose of credit. That's my $0.02 Devon Michael W. Lucas wrote: >Hi, > >Frequently, the "original author" would not recognize the document as >it exists in the doc repository. Many documents have been rewritten >over the years. > >Also, just because someone wrote a document doesn't mean that they >want to answer questions about it. That's what mailing lists are for. >:-) > >==ml > >On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 01:50:20AM +0200, Josef El-Rayes wrote: > > >>hi! >> >>i was wondering why there is no email adress of the author of articles >>available. i think adding something like: >> >> >> Joe >> Randmon >> jr@freebsd.org >> >> >>would be quite useful for people that have questions after reading the >>article as specific questions might be best answered by the author >>himself. status-quo makes it very hard to find out how to contact the >>author directly. >> >>tell me what you think of it. >> >>-josef >>-- >>www: http://www.daemon.li >>nic-hdl: JER1080312-NICAT >>BSD in AT: www.bsdcode.at >>"Make World - Not War!" >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 02:19:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A90C16A4BF; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 02:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaft.techsupport.co.uk (shaft.techsupport.co.uk [212.250.77.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3551843FFB; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 02:19:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from pc3-cdif2-5-cust222.cdif.cable.ntl.com ([81.101.152.222] helo=shrike.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by shaft.techsupport.co.uk with esmtp (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.22) id 19xk5J-0000Lo-Lv; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:19:21 +0100 Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.22) id 19xk5H-000JR9-Gl; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:19:19 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:19:19 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Christian Brueffer Message-ID: <20030912091919.GJ76802@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Christian Brueffer , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <200309120820.h8C8KADP072893@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/0U0QBNx7JIUZLHm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200309120820.h8C8KADP072893@freefall.freebsd.org> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/56729: [patch] artciles/pr-guidelines: explain meaning of MFC X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:19:24 -0000 --/0U0QBNx7JIUZLHm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 01:20:10AM -0700, Christian Brueffer wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 09:19:40AM +0200, Josef El-Rayes wrote: > >=3D20 > > --- article.sgml.diff begins here --- > > --- article.sgml.orig Fri Sep 12 01:30:28 2003 > > +++ article.sgml Fri Sep 12 01:33:04 2003 > > @@ -122,7 +122,12 @@ > > MFCed, then closes it. > > > > > >=3D20 > > + > > + MFC means Merge From CURRENT, the action of > > + merging a tested change from the -CURRENT development branch to= =3D20 > > + the -STABLE branch. > > + > > > > Many PRs are submitted with very little information about > > the problem, and some are either very complex to solve, or > > --- article.sgml.diff ends here --- > >=3D20 > =20 > This is already covered in the FAQ. I think if anything, a link should > suffice. I agree that it doesn't need to be duplicated in that article (else we'd be pretty much doing it in every article). Perhaps we should have a FreeBSD glossary, where all relevant acronyms and terms are explained. This could then be easily included at the end of printed works, etc. I'd be prepared to make a start on it, but I'd need help for sure. Ceri --=20 User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com --/0U0QBNx7JIUZLHm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/YY+XocfcwTS3JF8RAtxwAKC5JI85L4N6uWkMVju8cJq9g8uV1wCfVXws UFus+5FugEp1pVZUrY6WuHg= =5RKo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/0U0QBNx7JIUZLHm-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 02:20:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C5F16A4BF for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 02:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A02643FF3 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 02:20:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8C9KGUp091586 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 02:20:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8C9KGZ8091585; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 02:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 02:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200309120920.h8C9KGZ8091585@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Ceri Davies Subject: Re: docs/56729: [patch] artciles/pr-guidelines: explain meaning of MFC X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ceri Davies List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:20:17 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/56729; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri Davies To: Christian Brueffer Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/56729: [patch] artciles/pr-guidelines: explain meaning of MFC Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:19:19 +0100 --/0U0QBNx7JIUZLHm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 01:20:10AM -0700, Christian Brueffer wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 09:19:40AM +0200, Josef El-Rayes wrote: > >=3D20 > > --- article.sgml.diff begins here --- > > --- article.sgml.orig Fri Sep 12 01:30:28 2003 > > +++ article.sgml Fri Sep 12 01:33:04 2003 > > @@ -122,7 +122,12 @@ > > MFCed, then closes it. > > > > > >=3D20 > > + > > + MFC means Merge From CURRENT, the action of > > + merging a tested change from the -CURRENT development branch to= =3D20 > > + the -STABLE branch. > > + > > > > Many PRs are submitted with very little information about > > the problem, and some are either very complex to solve, or > > --- article.sgml.diff ends here --- > >=3D20 > =20 > This is already covered in the FAQ. I think if anything, a link should > suffice. I agree that it doesn't need to be duplicated in that article (else we'd be pretty much doing it in every article). Perhaps we should have a FreeBSD glossary, where all relevant acronyms and terms are explained. This could then be easily included at the end of printed works, etc. I'd be prepared to make a start on it, but I'd need help for sure. Ceri --=20 User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com --/0U0QBNx7JIUZLHm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/YY+XocfcwTS3JF8RAtxwAKC5JI85L4N6uWkMVju8cJq9g8uV1wCfVXws UFus+5FugEp1pVZUrY6WuHg= =5RKo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/0U0QBNx7JIUZLHm-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 02:33:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAED16A4BF; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 02:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (ms-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383D243FFB; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 02:33:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@unixpages.org) Received: from r220-1 (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HL3000IMH3YFX@ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de>; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:31:11 +0200 (MEST) Received: from relay.RWTH-Aachen.DE ([134.130.3.1]) by r220-1 (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:31:10 +0200 (MEST) Received: from haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (daemon@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.181.92]) h8C9VAf6011346; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:31:10 +0200 (MEST) Received: from gondor.middleearth (gondor.middleearth [192.168.1.42]) by haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FE11B; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:31:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: by gondor.middleearth (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D32B844FD; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:31:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:31:08 +0200 From: Christian Brueffer In-reply-to: <200309120920.h8C9KGZ8091585@freefall.freebsd.org> To: Ceri Davies Message-id: <20030912093107.GH635@unixpages.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary=MP5ln1Rcf9Bvi+ZW; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT X-PGP-Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D References: <200309120920.h8C9KGZ8091585@freefall.freebsd.org> cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/56729: [patch] artciles/pr-guidelines: explain meaning of MFC X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:33:02 -0000 --MP5ln1Rcf9Bvi+ZW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 02:20:16AM -0700, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > This is already covered in the FAQ. I think if anything, a link shou= ld > > suffice. > =20 > I agree that it doesn't need to be duplicated in that article (else we'd= be > pretty much doing it in every article). > =20 > Perhaps we should have a FreeBSD glossary, where all relevant acronyms a= nd > terms are explained. This could then be easily included at the end of > printed works, etc. I'd be prepared to make a start on it, but I'd need > help for sure. > =20 Good idea, I'd also like to see something like this. I'm not very familiar with the docbook infrastructure, what would be the best way to implement it? - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --MP5ln1Rcf9Bvi+ZW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/YZJbbHYXjKDtmC0RAiIqAJ0U7TNwn0rHRHR6bqKkXDghd62gbgCgjgAr Cif2etNbu2uvWOLY7+2kstA= =QLto -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MP5ln1Rcf9Bvi+ZW-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 02:38:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE5916A4BF for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 02:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaft.techsupport.co.uk (shaft.techsupport.co.uk [212.250.77.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A904B43FE1 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 02:38:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from pc3-cdif2-5-cust222.cdif.cable.ntl.com ([81.101.152.222] helo=shrike.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by shaft.techsupport.co.uk with esmtp (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.22) id 19xkO9-0000Ny-7k; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:38:49 +0100 Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.22) id 19xkO6-000JUG-Ub; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:38:46 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:38:46 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Christian Brueffer Message-ID: <20030912093846.GK76802@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Christian Brueffer , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <200309120920.h8C9KGZ8091585@freefall.freebsd.org> <20030912093107.GH635@unixpages.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OOq1TgGhe8eTwFBO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030912093107.GH635@unixpages.org> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/56729: [patch] artciles/pr-guidelines: explain meaning of MFC X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:38:51 -0000 --OOq1TgGhe8eTwFBO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 11:31:08AM +0200, Christian Brueffer wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 02:20:16AM -0700, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > > > This is already covered in the FAQ. I think if anything, a link sh= ould > > > suffice. > > =20 > > I agree that it doesn't need to be duplicated in that article (else we= 'd be > > pretty much doing it in every article). > > =20 > > Perhaps we should have a FreeBSD glossary, where all relevant acronyms= and > > terms are explained. This could then be easily included at the end of > > printed works, etc. I'd be prepared to make a start on it, but I'd ne= ed > > help for sure. >=20 > Good idea, I'd also like to see something like this. I'm not very famili= ar > with the docbook infrastructure, what would be the best way to implement = it? I'm not sure yet. Doubtless there is already a method for doing it, but I'll need to check what the relevant elements, etc. are when I get home. Ceri --=20 User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com --OOq1TgGhe8eTwFBO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/YZQmocfcwTS3JF8RAuZrAJ9lTK2sf2vGbBK58PKu7IIibCWbPwCfUFdd Y4Bd/sHwQ4HYODivdDl3W4E= =hzcV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OOq1TgGhe8eTwFBO-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 03:15:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9727F16A4BF for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 03:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ac-net.at (secure.ac-net.at [212.24.125.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A04D43FBF for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 03:15:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shammer@daemon.li) Received: from localhost (server.ac-net.at [127.0.0.1]) with ESMTP id 8A40C3F1E for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:15:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from daemon.li (dsl-154-254.utaonline.at [62.218.154.254]) with SMTP id 290653F10 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:15:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 638 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2003 10:15:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO daemon.li) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Sep 2003 10:15:31 -0000 Received: (from shammer@localhost) by daemon.li (8.12.6/8.12.7/Submit) id h8CAFVIc000636; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:15:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from shammer) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:15:31 +0200 From: Josef El-Rayes To: Ceri Davies , Christian Brueffer , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030912101531.GA614@daemon.li> References: <200309120820.h8C8KADP072893@freefall.freebsd.org> <20030912091919.GJ76802@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030912091919.GJ76802@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Reply-Path: j.el-rayes@daemon.li X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12 with AC-networks extensions cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/56729: [patch] artciles/pr-guidelines: explain meaning of MFC X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.el-rayes@daemon.li List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:15:21 -0000 Ceri Davies wrote: > > This is already covered in the FAQ. I think if anything, a link should > > suffice. > > I agree that it doesn't need to be duplicated in that article (else we'd be > pretty much doing it in every article). > > Perhaps we should have a FreeBSD glossary, where all relevant acronyms and > terms are explained. very funny - i had the same idea. i think this would be a good idea to have a central document for freebsd specific terms for easy crosslinking. -josef -- www: http://www.daemon.li nic-hdl: JER1080312-NICAT BSD in AT: www.bsdcode.at "Make World - Not War!" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 03:33:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4042E16A4BF for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 03:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3493443FE9 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 03:33:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1856710BFAA; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:33:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:33:33 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Ceri Davies , Christian Brueffer , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030912103331.GA388@FreeBSD.org> References: <200309120920.h8C9KGZ8091585@freefall.freebsd.org> <20030912093107.GH635@unixpages.org> <20030912093846.GK76802@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030912093846.GK76802@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: docs/56729: [patch] artciles/pr-guidelines: explain meaning of MFC X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:33:36 -0000 --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.09.12 10:38:46 +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 11:31:08AM +0200, Christian Brueffer wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 02:20:16AM -0700, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > > > > > This is already covered in the FAQ. I think if anything, a link = should > > > > suffice. > > > =20 > > > I agree that it doesn't need to be duplicated in that article (else = we'd be > > > pretty much doing it in every article). > > > =20 > > > Perhaps we should have a FreeBSD glossary, where all relevant acrony= ms and > > > terms are explained. This could then be easily included at the end = of > > > printed works, etc. I'd be prepared to make a start on it, but I'd = need > > > help for sure. > >=20 > > Good idea, I'd also like to see something like this. I'm not very fami= liar > > with the docbook infrastructure, what would be the best way to implemen= t it? >=20 > I'm not sure yet. Doubtless there is already a method for doing it, but > I'll need to check what the relevant elements, etc. are when I get home. I also think this is a good idea. As for doing it, I would look at how the bookinfo.legalnotice entity is defined. Basically : The file doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/bookinfo.ent contains : And then doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/legalnotice.sgml is the actual text which is just included using "&bookinfo.legalnotice;". I think it would be fairly simple to do something like this for a glossary. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/YaD7h9pcDSc1mlERAnMlAJ9+tOX5wA6OF7t0cG2JTlpAsB9k9gCcCIAI BznYjfwTBg4ZtIzUw9K821w= =dpUM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 04:18:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FA816A4BF; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 04:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaft.techsupport.co.uk (shaft.techsupport.co.uk [212.250.77.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C0743FEC; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 04:18:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from pc3-cdif2-5-cust222.cdif.cable.ntl.com ([81.101.152.222] helo=shrike.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by shaft.techsupport.co.uk with esmtp (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.22) id 19xlwN-0000b1-Nu; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:18:15 +0100 Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.22) id 19xlwL-000JhD-Ex; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:18:13 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:18:13 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-ID: <20030912111813.GA75659@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , "Simon L. Nielsen" , Christian Brueffer , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <200309120920.h8C9KGZ8091585@freefall.freebsd.org> <20030912093107.GH635@unixpages.org> <20030912093846.GK76802@submonkey.net> <20030912103331.GA388@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gKMricLos+KVdGMg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030912103331.GA388@FreeBSD.org> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/56729: [patch] artciles/pr-guidelines: explain meaning of MFC X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:18:18 -0000 --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 12:33:33PM +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > On 2003.09.12 10:38:46 +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 11:31:08AM +0200, Christian Brueffer wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 02:20:16AM -0700, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > > > > > > > This is already covered in the FAQ. I think if anything, a lin= k should > > > > > suffice. > > > > =20 > > > > I agree that it doesn't need to be duplicated in that article (els= e we'd be > > > > pretty much doing it in every article). > > > > =20 > > > > Perhaps we should have a FreeBSD glossary, where all relevant acro= nyms and > > > > terms are explained. This could then be easily included at the en= d of > > > > printed works, etc. I'd be prepared to make a start on it, but I'= d need > > > > help for sure. > > >=20 > > > Good idea, I'd also like to see something like this. I'm not very fa= miliar > > > with the docbook infrastructure, what would be the best way to implem= ent it? > >=20 > > I'm not sure yet. Doubtless there is already a method for doing it, but > > I'll need to check what the relevant elements, etc. are when I get home. >=20 > I also think this is a good idea. >=20 > As for doing it, I would look at how the bookinfo.legalnotice entity is > defined. Basically : >=20 > The file doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/bookinfo.ent contains : >=20 > >=20 > And then doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/legalnotice.sgml is the actual > text which is just included using "&bookinfo.legalnotice;". >=20 > I think it would be fairly simple to do something like this for a > glossary. Yeah, those are the lines I was thinking along. My reference to "relevant elements" was that there are very likely elements or similar already, which we can make use of. Ceri --=20 User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/Yat1ocfcwTS3JF8RAva5AJ46noLUDY668idH75wiBl/ri1ZxKwCeILa1 4JZ0fTWFRKa276+teQO/uss= =3h6+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 07:11:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE41516A4BF for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 07:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ac-net.at (secure.ac-net.at [212.24.125.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F3643FF2 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 07:11:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shammer@daemon.li) Received: from localhost (server.ac-net.at [127.0.0.1]) with ESMTP id CFB253F22 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:11:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from daemon.li (dsl-154-254.utaonline.at [62.218.154.254]) with SMTP id 732E73EFC for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1136 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2003 14:11:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO daemon.li) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Sep 2003 14:11:27 -0000 Received: (from shammer@localhost) by daemon.li (8.12.6/8.12.7/Submit) id h8CEBQXm001134; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:11:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from shammer) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:11:26 +0200 From: Josef El-Rayes To: Ceri Davies , "Simon L. Nielsen" , Christian Brueffer , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030912141126.GC1068@daemon.li> References: <200309120920.h8C9KGZ8091585@freefall.freebsd.org> <20030912093107.GH635@unixpages.org> <20030912093846.GK76802@submonkey.net> <20030912103331.GA388@FreeBSD.org> <20030912111813.GA75659@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030912111813.GA75659@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Reply-Path: j.el-rayes@daemon.li X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12 with AC-networks extensions Subject: Re: docs/56729: [patch] artciles/pr-guidelines: explain meaning of MFC X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.el-rayes@daemon.li List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:11:22 -0000 Ceri Davies wrote: > Yeah, those are the lines I was thinking along. > My reference to "relevant elements" was that there are very likely > elements or similar already, which we can make use of. i wanted to start collecting some terms for glossary as some questions arose: i am wondering on how to realize this. should it be more of an index, with a crosslink to the place where it gets explained or like this: MFC: ...merge from current, action... read handbook.. with a short explanation and a link when there is a place where it gets explainend more detailed. should there be a certain "treshhold" like, only use freebsd specific terms or not trivial terms or should we include every term like "unix, ports, packages..."? -josef -- www: http://www.daemon.li nic-hdl: JER1080312-NICAT BSD in AT: www.bsdcode.at "Make World - Not War!" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 12:01:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F18F16A4BF; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7821043FE3; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:01:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: from localhost.localdomain (12-230-74-101.client.attbi.com[12.230.74.101](untrusted sender)) by attbi.com (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2003091218584001400opjpje>; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:58:40 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8CIw14d058235; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:58:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8CIuWG2058218; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:56:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) To: j.el-rayes@daemon.li References: <200309120920.h8C9KGZ8091585@freefall.freebsd.org> <20030912093107.GH635@unixpages.org> <20030912093846.GK76802@submonkey.net> <20030912103331.GA388@FreeBSD.org> <20030912111813.GA75659@submonkey.net> <20030912141126.GC1068@daemon.li> From: underway@comcast.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:56:32 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20030912141126.GC1068@daemon.li> (Josef El-Rayes's message of "Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:11:26 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: "Simon L. Nielsen" Subject: Re: docs/56729: [patch] artciles/pr-guidelines: explain meaning of MFC X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 19:01:37 -0000 > should there be a certain "treshhold" like, only use freebsd specific > terms or not trivial terms or should we include every term like "unix, > ports, packages..."? You're welcome to have the definitions from my old "jargon" web page: http://underway.home.comcast.net/jargon.html It was mostly created while I was using Linux and only has a couple of hundred entries, but some of them should be useful. The definitions were all composed by me and I waive my copyrights on them. There should be a couple of notices in the glossary: 1) Many definitions are incomplete and do not reflect all of the meanings used by the many FDP, manpage, and source code authors in every context. They are only meant to be clues for the clueless. 2) The FDP welcomes your contributions of new entries for this glossary, but must insist on this condition for all contributions: Contributors must own all copyrights for their contributions; even "fair use" copying must be avoided because one can't know what fair use copies from the same source have or will be contributed by others, which might be considered an unfair use. Of course, not everything is copyrightable, so some judgement can be required. A glossary could grow into an encyclopedia larger than the Handbook (because of number of entries and size of entries) so I've included a clue in notice "1" above that the definitions should be kept short. Perhaps this would be a good time to discuss the issue of whether standards and guidelines in FDP and other documentation should be (better) documented. Perhaps not -- there are good arguments for both sides of the issue. I'll not launch into the subject, except to note that the issue should be addressed in the glossary, as I did in number "1" above, documenting the status quo in which there is no recommended or official jargon. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 12:56:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7C516A4BF for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (ms-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DF743FDD for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:56:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@unixpages.org) Received: from r220-1 (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HL4009RHA0RQT@ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de> for doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 21:55:39 +0200 (MEST) Received: from relay.RWTH-Aachen.DE ([134.130.3.1]) by r220-1 (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 21:55:38 +0200 (MEST) Received: from haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (daemon@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.181.92]) h8CJtaf6019664; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 21:55:37 +0200 (MEST) Received: from gondor.middleearth (gondor.middleearth [192.168.1.42]) by haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480371B; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 19:55:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: by gondor.middleearth (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BA0F94500; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 21:55:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 21:55:34 +0200 From: Christian Brueffer In-reply-to: <20030911133925.GH5402@zgia.zp.ua> To: Oleksandr Listopad Message-id: <20030912195533.GI635@unixpages.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary=WHz+neNWvhIGAO8A; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT X-PGP-Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D References: <20030911133925.GH5402@zgia.zp.ua> cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports-dns & handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 19:56:30 -0000 --WHz+neNWvhIGAO8A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 04:39:25PM +0300, Oleksandr Listopad wrote: > hi! >=20 > There no ports-dns/ports-polish in current handbook. Please, add it. >=20 Hi, which part of the handbook are you referring to? If you're talking about the porters-handbook, I just added the two categories there. Thanks. - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --WHz+neNWvhIGAO8A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/YiS1bHYXjKDtmC0RAkabAJ9jP0VHMJCSEAfa5X2m1y2OnMqAdwCgm/EM UfmbOoDSqjt1CrMSqOG1hEY= =gTQX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WHz+neNWvhIGAO8A-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 01:11:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8143D16A4BF for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 01:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.zsea.zp.ua (zsea.zp.ua [212.8.40.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2B443FBD for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 01:11:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from laa@mx1.zsea.zp.ua) Received: by mx1.zsea.zp.ua (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 16FDF2AB42; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 11:10:56 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 11:10:56 +0300 From: Oleksandr Listopad To: Christian Brueffer Message-ID: <20030913081055.GN5402@zgia.zp.ua> References: <20030911133925.GH5402@zgia.zp.ua> <20030912195533.GI635@unixpages.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030912195533.GI635@unixpages.org> X-Mailer: Mutt X-PGP-Key: http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xF3FFC401 cc: doc@freebsd.org cc: Oleksandr Listopad Subject: Re: ports-dns & handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 08:11:02 -0000 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Christian Brueffer! > > There no ports-dns/ports-polish in current handbook. Please, add it. > >=20 > which part of the handbook are you referring to? If you're talking > about the porters-handbook, I just added the two categories there. >=20 > Thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html --=20 Laa --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQE/YtEPW+gC7vP/xAERAjiGAKCH5V2bvgYXIUQZv3aeBkmQoBwSagCeIrnz Nwb5fkk7vWYkZOdFx58SCFk= =1mVl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 04:00:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C48316A4BF for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 04:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A522243F3F for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 04:00:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8DB0aUp002864 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 04:00:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8DB0a3C002855; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 04:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 04:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200309131100.h8DB0a3C002855@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, mark@remotelab.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C513E16A4BF for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 03:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 194-185-53-242.f5.ngi.it (194-185-53-242.f5.ngi.it [194.185.53.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E832A43F75 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 03:53:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@remotelab.org) Received: from einstein.lab (einstein.lab [192.168.168.2]) h8DArZlJ044357 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 12:53:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mark@remotelab.org) Received: from einstein.lab (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by einstein.lab (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8DArJcB000523 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 12:53:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mark@einstein.lab) Received: (from mark@localhost) by einstein.lab (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8DArJHq000522; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 12:53:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mark) Message-Id: <200309131053.h8DArJHq000522@einstein.lab> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 12:53:19 +0200 (CEST) From: mark@remotelab.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/56745: Some suggestions for the Bibliography chapter of the handbook. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mark@remotelab.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 11:00:39 -0000 >Number: 56745 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Some suggestions for the Bibliography chapter of the handbook. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Sep 13 04:00:33 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Marco Trentini >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD einstein.lab 4.8-STABLE FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #0: Thu Aug 21 17:29:19 CEST 2003 root@einstein.lab:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EINSTEIN i386 >Description: Some suggestions for the Bibliography chapter of the handbook. See the fix section. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- chapter.diff begins here --- --- chapter.sgml.old Sat Sep 13 12:36:38 2003 +++ chapter.sgml Sat Sep 13 12:46:54 2003 @@ -171,6 +171,11 @@ url="http://www-wks.acs.ohio-state.edu/unix_course/unix.html">UNIX Introductory Course which is available online in HTML and PostScript format. + + (This document is available online + in italian as part of the FreeBSD Italian Documentation + Project.) --- chapter.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 11:22:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B41416A4BF for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 11:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plover.csun.edu (plover.csun.edu [130.166.1.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AFE43FF9 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 11:22:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from albert.kinderman@csun.edu) Received: from puffin.csun.edu (puffin.csun.edu [130.166.1.21]) by plover.csun.edu (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.3-GR) with ESMTP id APB87140; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 11:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csun.edu (s097n152.csun.edu [130.166.97.152]) by puffin.csun.edu (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.3-GR) with ESMTP id AZB40878 (AUTH vcmgt00b); Sat, 13 Sep 2003 11:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F636031.5040302@csun.edu> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 11:21:37 -0700 From: Albert Kinderman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030901 Thunderbird/0.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: renaud@softway.com Subject: Correction to Formatting Media For Use With FreeBSD Sec 4.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 18:22:23 -0000 [I cannot send mail from my FreeBSD box, so send-pr is not available. The web interface for pr's is not available, so I am writing directly to the list] Here is the current section 4.2 of Formatting Media For Use With FreeBSD [begin quote] 4.2 Copying the Contents of Disks Submitted By: Renaud Waldura () To move file[s] from your original base disk to the fresh new one, do: # mount /dev/ad2 /mnt # pax -r -w -p e /usr/home /mnt # umount /mnt # rm -rf /usr/home/* # mount /dev/ad2 /usr/home [end quote] The problem with this is that pax copies the directory structure of /usr/home to /mnt (an ls of /mnt after pax shows usr, of /mnt/usr shows home).Thus, once /usr/home is mounted on /dev/ad2, the contents of /usr/home will be /usr/home, i.e., the files you want are in /usr/home/usr/home. The correct method replaces line two with #cd /usr/home #pax -r -w -p e * /mnt #cd / This copies the directories and files from /usr/home to /mnt, but not the complete /usr/home directory structure. CAVEAT: I did not do this on a whole disk. I added a new disk, sliced it, and partitioned the slice, so that I was mounting just a partition within a slice, e.g., /dev/ad1s1e. I used the listed method on /usr, and only later discovered that all the files from /usr were now in /usr/usr. (I changed /etc/fstab to mount the new slice on /usr, and my reboot couldn't go into multiuser mode when all the files supposed to be in /usr were not found.) After fixing /usr, I did a test by creating /usr/fred and following the original instructions. The result was that all my files were in /usr/fred/usr/fred. Al From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 11:40:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CDD16A4BF for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 11:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta8.adelphia.net (mta8.adelphia.net [68.168.78.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60F543FF3 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 11:40:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com ([24.53.179.151]) by mta8.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.32 201-253-122-126-132-20030307) with ESMTP id <20030913184033.WVIL16966.mta8.adelphia.net@potentialtech.com>; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 14:40:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3F63649E.3010503@potentialtech.com> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 14:40:30 -0400 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030429 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Albert Kinderman References: <3F636031.5040302@csun.edu> In-Reply-To: <3F636031.5040302@csun.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: renaud@softway.com cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Correction to Formatting Media For Use With FreeBSD Sec 4.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 18:40:32 -0000 Albert Kinderman wrote: > [I cannot send mail from my FreeBSD box, so send-pr is not available. > The web interface for pr's is not available, so I am writing directly to > the list] Consider installing ssmtp on your FreeBSD box. It's small, easy to install and configure, and will allow you to send email from the send-pr command in FreeBSD (as well as do other email functions). /usr/ports/mail/ssmtp -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com