From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 28 00:24:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B0216A4B3 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0FF44035 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:24:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rgwaycott@bellsouth.net) Received: from mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.158]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.netSMTP <20030928072434.DJWZ1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 03:24:34 -0400 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.11 (webedge20-101-194-20030622) From: Robert G.Waycott To: Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 3:24:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20030928072434.DJWZ1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Subject: Involvement? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:24:36 -0000 Hey docTeam. I am pretty new to FreeBSD, having recently migrated from three years as a Linux user. For one prodigious reason or another, I have somewhat found myself taken with FreeBSD--perchance because I have finally escaped the old "shit, what'd I do? I don't now! Hell, let's just install Redhat again and everything will work" scenario. Anyway, I am about to go ahead and install 4.9-PRERELEASE on my main box here at home, and am wondering what kind of help the docProject needs. Does 4.9 need work? I have several years experience as a writer and editor, thus this seems to be the best place to offer my skills and finally find involvement in the Open Source community. I do not know much of how you guys do what you do, but would really like to learn and serve as an editor for documentation, and possibly write when I know more. I am pretty good at communicating difficult subject matter to a rather uninformed/underinformed audience, and would love to help ensure that the docs w hich are out there are fairly straightforward for the "newbie." Anyway, I have spoken enough. Waiting for direction. Esse quam videri, Bob Waycott From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 28 01:45:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7895816A4B3; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomts12-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts12.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB5444003; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:45:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmagda@magda.ca) Received: from number6.magda.ca ([64.229.177.29]) by tomts23-srv.bellnexxia.netESMTP <20030927023906.DHNX28694.tomts23-srv.bellnexxia.net@number6.magda.ca>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:39:06 -0400 Received: from number6.magda.ca (localhost.magda.ca [127.0.0.1]) by number6.magda.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8R2caxw002422 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri,: 38:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dmagda@magda.ca) Received: (from dmagda@localhost) by number6.magda.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8R2caUF002421; Fri,: 38:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dmagda) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:38:36 -0400 From: David Magda To: emoore@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030927023835.GA2383@number6.magda.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: docs@freebsd.org cc: simon@freebsd.org Subject: amr(4) and Perc4/DI support X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Magda List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:45:07 -0000 --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Rev. 1.1.2.8 of src/sys/dev/amr/amr_pci.c added support for the Dell Perc4/DI but this is not mentioned in amr(4) or in the hardware notes. Support for the PERC 3/DCL was added about 5 weeks ago but this slipped through even though the code was added 9 months ago. Perhaps someone could add a note? --=20 David Magda , http://www.magda.ca/ Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well=20 under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/dPgr2MrIoZGj+vYRAiMuAJwK6HUOuCwxseJCGOnw4mTQCEstLwCfRq15 3qyAeT4Xd09MXyRTgH5yI8k= =l48/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 28 02:13:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E93F16A4B3; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 02:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF6F43FA3; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 02:13:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (blackend@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8S9DvFY091400; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 02:13:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from blackend@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8S9Dvbw091396; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 02:13:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 02:13:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Fonvieille Message-Id: <200309280913.h8S9Dvbw091396@freefall.freebsd.org> To: blackend@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, blackend@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/57298: Using compact flash cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:13:58 -0000 Synopsis: Using compact flash cards Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->blackend Responsible-Changed-By: blackend Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Sep 28 02:10:47 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I 'll work on this one. I'm planning a section in the storage chapter, with additions like CF-PCMCIA Adapter, USB keys etc (I have all these devices around me...). http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=57298 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 28 09:08:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B40316A4B3 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaft.techsupport.co.uk (shaft.techsupport.co.uk [212.250.77.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8F644017 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:08:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from cpc3-cdif2-5-0-cust222.cdif.cable.ntl.com ([81.101.152.222] helo=shrike.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by shaft.techsupport.co.uk with esmtp (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.22) id 1A3e5X-000Kil-6F; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:08:00 +0100 Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.22) id 1A3e5V-0004sb-AH; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:07:57 +0100 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:07:57 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: "Robert G.Waycott" Message-ID: <20030928160757.GJ915@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , "Robert G.Waycott" , doc@freebsd.org References: <20030928072434.DJWZ1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AqCDj3hiknadvR6t" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030928072434.DJWZ1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Involvement? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:08:03 -0000 --AqCDj3hiknadvR6t Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 03:24:34AM -0400, Robert G.Waycott wrote: > > Hey docTeam. I am pretty new to FreeBSD, having recently migrated from >three years as a Linux user. For one prodigious reason or another, I >have somewhat found myself taken with FreeBSD--perchance because I have >finally escaped the old "shit, what'd I do? I don't now! Hell, let's >just install Redhat again and everything will work" scenario. Anyway, I >am about to go ahead and install 4.9-PRERELEASE on my main box here at >home, and am wondering what kind of help the docProject needs. Does 4.9 >need work? I have several years experience as a writer and editor, thus >this seems to be the best place to offer my skills and finally find >involvement in the Open Source community. I do not know much of how you >guys do what you do, but would really like to learn and serve as an >editor for documentation, and possibly write when I know more. I am >pretty good at communicating difficult subject matter to a rather >uninformed/underinformed audience, and would love to help ensure that >the docs which are out there are fairly straightforward for the >"newbie." Anyway, I have spoken enough. Waiting for direction. Hi Bob, Glad you'd like to help out. Firstly, please wrap your mails at 72 characters. Secondly, to get involved, please initially read the primer at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/index.html and the background information to the documentation project at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/index.html. As a new user you're in a good position to write documentation; if you're trying to do something and the docs are lacking or don't exist, you can just make a note of what you had to do and write it up. When you're done reading the above, you may have some more specific questio= ns, so feel free to ask again then. Cheers, Ceri --=20 --AqCDj3hiknadvR6t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQE/dwddocfcwTS3JF8RApyNAJd4qO7qv2dbZJLih8jzSC4mwsAeAKCMhLz5 ppsKREV1GM1nWW5uF6MIGw== =08Wc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AqCDj3hiknadvR6t-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 28 14:05:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096AF16A4B3 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4D044017 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:05:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8SL5aFa082935 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:05:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8SL0XEs080450; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:00:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200309282100.h8SL0XEs080450@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Matt Peterson Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F9B16A4B3 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.forko.com (forko.com [206.14.189.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB334400D for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@mail.forko.com) Received: (qmail 2065 invoked by uid 1000); 28 Sep 2003 13:48:07 -0700 Message-Id: <20030928204807.2064.qmail@mail.forko.com> Date: 28 Sep 2003 13:48:07 -0700 From: Matt Peterson To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 cc: Matt Peterson Subject: docs/57327: [patch] wicontrol man page fixes X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matt Peterson List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:05:39 -0000 >Number: 57327 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] wicontrol man page fixes >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Sep 28 14:00:31 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Matt Peterson >Release: FreeBSD 4.9-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: Bay Area Wireless Users Group >Environment: >Description: The following patch updates the wicontrol page with the following: * s/WaveLAN/Lucent, Intersil, & Atheros/g (since all three chipets use this utility) * Sort synopsis in sync with wicontrol -h order * Document -l & -L Additionally, add -L for -h in wicontrol >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- wicontrol.8.old Sun Sep 28 12:52:25 2003 +++ wicontrol.8 Sun Sep 28 13:46:26 2003 @@ -35,13 +35,21 @@ .Os .Sh NAME .Nm wicontrol -.Nd configure WaveLAN/IEEE devices +.Nd configure Lucent, Intersil, & Atheros wireless devices .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm .Op Fl i .Ar iface Op Fl o .Nm .Op Fl i +.Ar iface Fl l +(dump associated stations) +.Nm +.Op Fl i +.Ar iface Fl L +(list avail access points) +.Nm +.Op Fl i .Ar iface Fl t Ar tx_rate .Nm .Op Fl i @@ -97,39 +105,34 @@ .Op Fl i .Ar iface Fl C (display signal cache) -.Nm -.Op Fl i -.Ar iface Fl L -(list avail access points) -.Nm -.Op Fl i -.Ar iface Fl l -(dump associated stations) .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm -utility controls the operation of WaveLAN/IEEE wireless networking -devices via the +utility controls the operation of Lucent, Intersil, & Atheros-based wireless +networking devices via .Xr wi 4 +or +.Xr ath 4 driver. .Pp You should not use this program to configure IEEE 802.11 paramters. Use .Xr ifconfig 8 -instead to do those tasks. +instead to do those tasks (ie: set SSID, WEP key, etc). .Pp The .Nm -utility can also be used to view the current settings of these parameters -and to dump out the values of the card's statistics counters. +utility can also be used to view the current settings of these parameters, +dump out the values of the card's statistics counters, list assoicated +stations (in HostAP mode), and scan for available access points. .Pp The .Ar iface argument given to .Nm -should be the logical interface name associated with the WaveLAN/IEEE -device -.Li ( wi0 , wi1 , +should be the logical interface name associated with the Lucent, Intersil, +& Atheros device +.Li ( wi0 , wi1 , ath0 , etc.). If none is specified then .Dq Li wi0 @@ -138,7 +141,7 @@ The options are as follows: .Bl -tag -width indent .It Oo Fl i Oc Ar iface Op Fl o -Display the current settings of the specified WaveLAN/IEEE interface. +Display the current settings of the specified wireless interface. This retrieves the current card settings from the driver and prints them out. Using the additional @@ -149,6 +152,20 @@ Encryption keys are only displayed if .Nm is run as root. +.It Oo Fl i Oc Ar iface Op Fl l +Dump a list of connected stations (in HostAP mode). +.It Oo Fl i Oc Ar iface Op Fl L +Dump a list of available access points in tabular format. +.Bl -column ".Em TX\ rate" ".Em NIC\ speed" -offset indent +.Em "Key Value" +.It Cm SSID Ta "Network name/service set identifier" +.It Cm BSSID Ta "Broadcast network identifier" +.It Cm Chan Ta "Channel" +.It Cm SN S N Ta "Signal noise ratio, signal, & noise" +.It Cm Intrvl Ta "Beacon interval" +.It Cm Capinfo Ta "AP capabilities" +.El +.Pp .It Oo Fl i Oc Ar iface Fl a Ar access_point_density Specify the access point density @@ -520,6 +537,7 @@ The default is 100. .El .Sh SEE ALSO +.Xr ath 4 , .Xr awi 4 , .Xr ipsec 4 , .Xr wi 4 , --- wicontrol.c.old Sun Sep 28 13:47:29 2003 +++ wicontrol.c Sun Sep 28 13:48:05 2003 @@ -892,6 +892,7 @@ fprintf(stderr, "usage: %s -i iface\n", p); fprintf(stderr, "\t%s -i iface -o\n", p); fprintf(stderr, "\t%s -i iface -l\n", p); + fprintf(stderr, "\t%s -i iface -L\n", p); fprintf(stderr, "\t%s -i iface -t tx rate\n", p); fprintf(stderr, "\t%s -i iface -n network name\n", p); fprintf(stderr, "\t%s -i iface -s station name\n", p); >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 28 15:30:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C2A16A55C for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B264401A for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Diandbriansemail@aol.com) Received: from Diandbriansemail@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id n.a3.495ec5df (4362) for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:30:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Diandbriansemail@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:30:03 EDT To: doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 913 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:35:06 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Floppy disks X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:30:12 -0000 I am sorry but I couldn't understand a word about how to use a floppy disk, even after I read it for the 10th time. In the future could you possibly write a page in layman terms for those of us who are just starting to use computers? From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 28 15:52:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB73D16A4B3 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [65.60.36.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F71344032 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:52:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chern@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2135) id 7BC431CC3D; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6291CC3B; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:54:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Chern Lee X-X-Sender: chern@mall.freebsdmall.com To: Diandbriansemail@aol.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030928153948.R43600@mall.freebsdmall.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Floppy disks X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:52:01 -0000 Unfortunately, it is assumed throughout most of the documentation that the user has basic computer experience. What floppy disk documentation are you referring to? - chern On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 Diandbriansemail@aol.com wrote: > I am sorry but I couldn't understand a word about how to use a floppy disk, > even after I read it for the 10th time. In the future could you possibly > write a page in layman terms for those of us who are just starting to use > computers? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 28 15:55:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA2316A4B3 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [65.60.36.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCDF43FF5 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:55:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chern@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2135) id 92BCB1CC30; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914B31CC22; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:57:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Chern Lee X-X-Sender: chern@mall.freebsdmall.com To: Josh Paetzel In-Reply-To: <20030922150611.GA8736@tcbug.org> Message-ID: <20030928155449.B43600@mall.freebsdmall.com> References: <20030922150611.GA8736@tcbug.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipf in the handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:55:17 -0000 Josh, To my knowledge, there is no-one working on an ipf section for the handbook. Your work would be greatly appreciated. - chern On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Josh Paetzel wrote: > There appears to be no ipf secion in the handbook, and I was curious if work > has begun on writing a section on it. If there is no work in progress on it, > and there's no good reason not to work on it, I will start working on it. > > TIA > > Josh Paetzel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 28 17:41:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC5E16A4B3; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts14.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECC043FE1; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:41:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmagda@magda.ca) Received: from number6.magda.ca ([64.229.177.29]) by tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.netESMTP <20030929004103.EZVJ28998.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@number6.magda.ca>; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:41:03 -0400 Received: from number6.magda.ca (localhost.magda.ca [127.0.0.1]) by number6.magda.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8T0exa1004796 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun,: 40:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dmagda@magda.ca) Received: (from dmagda@localhost) by number6.magda.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8T0ewl9004795; Sun,: 40:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dmagda) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:40:58 -0400 From: David Magda To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20030929004057.GA4786@number6.magda.ca> References: <20030927023835.GA2383@number6.magda.ca> <20030928194712.707785f5.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030928194712.707785f5.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: docs@FreeBSD.org cc: emoore@FreeBSD.org cc: simon@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: amr(4) and Perc4/DI support X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Magda List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 00:41:07 -0000 On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 07:47:12PM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > I thought Simon added this to the manual page. Have you done a > CVSup yet? He replied to me a couple of days ago saying it's now been fixed in -CURRENT. It will be MFCed after 4.9 has been released. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 28 23:35:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE6C16A4B3; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CE94400E; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:35:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (imp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8T6Z8FY084186; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:35:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from imp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8T6Z8EN084182; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 00:35:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 00:35:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Warner Losh Message-Id: <200309290635.h8T6Z8EN084182@freefall.freebsd.org> To: matt@peterson.org, imp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/57327: [patch] wicontrol man page fixes X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:35:09 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] wicontrol man page fixes State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: imp State-Changed-When: Mon Sep 29 00:34:51 MDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Committed to current. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=57327 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 29 07:52:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2768316A4B3 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 07:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85B643FE9 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 07:52:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (acs-24-154-239-120.zoominternet.net [24.154.239.120]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h8TEq4vd056451 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:52:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:51:14 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20030929105114.5d39d879.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RFC: internal/staff.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:52:07 -0000 -doc team, I'm in the process of removing the various 'teams' and 'project' listings from the articles and moving it all over to the internal/staff.sgml file. My plan was to replace these areas with a link to that page after the work was completed. If there are any complaints, speak up and let it be known to me. Thanks! -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 29 11:03:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B95716A4B3 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9910E43FDD for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:03:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8TI34FY028699 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:03:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8TI331n028693 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:03:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200309291803.h8TI331n028693@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:03:08 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [2001/10/31] i386/31671 doc 4.4 installer hangs at " Mounting root fr 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [1999/10/04] i386/14135 doc lpt1 nolonger exists after 3.2-RELEASE s [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () o [2002/01/15] docs/33929 doc Section 15.15 of the FreeBSD Porter's Han s [2002/03/08] docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for o [2002/03/21] docs/36168 doc -pthread/_THREAD_SAFE docs missing in gcc o [2002/09/13] docs/42762 doc ppp.8 has no description of $env and ~use o [2002/11/14] docs/45303 doc Bug in PDF DocBook rendering f [2003/02/19] docs/48472 doc Documentation unreadable. o [2003/09/15] docs/56894 doc umass man page: "mount -t msdos" instead 10 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/04/29] docs/26943 doc [patch] description of :C modifier is mis o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/09/27] docs/30873 doc ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2001/11/15] docs/32020 doc loader.8 manpage missing tunables o [2002/01/05] docs/33589 doc Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process . o [2002/01/13] docs/33852 doc split(1) man page implies that input file o [2002/01/14] docs/33877 doc Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non- o [2002/02/15] bin/34955 doc [PATCH] ps(1) is out of touch with realit a [2002/02/16] docs/35011 doc There are no commands called "diskless" o o [2002/02/22] docs/35222 doc mailing list archive URL regexp suboptima o [2002/03/06] docs/35602 doc dump(8)/restore(8) pages don't explain "a o [2002/03/06] docs/35607 doc dump(1) page needs discussion of scary er o [2002/03/06] docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explana o [2002/03/06] docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long era o [2002/03/06] docs/35612 doc ps(1) page "state" description doesn't me o [2002/03/07] docs/35642 doc lo(4) page maybe should document optional o [2002/03/07] docs/35644 doc lo(4) page presumes familiarity with prin o [2002/03/07] docs/35646 doc cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. o [2002/03/07] docs/35647 doc www; combine query-by-number and multi-fi o [2002/03/07] docs/35648 doc rc.conf; add note about "flags" to both f o [2002/03/08] docs/35686 doc blackhole(4) page seems to contradict its o [2002/03/08] docs/35687 doc /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers o [2002/03/09] docs/35711 doc the "gnats page" should move to its own s o [2002/03/10] docs/35732 doc adduser(8) page has obsolete reference an o [2002/03/15] docs/35943 doc at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/ o [2002/03/15] docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wro o [2002/03/20] misc/36154 doc Getting USB mouse to work: usbd and mouse o [2002/03/28] docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded bo o [2002/03/28] docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailin o [2002/05/03] docs/37719 doc Detail VOP_ naming in a relevant man-page s [2002/05/07] docs/37843 doc manual for pthread_setschedparam is wrong o [2002/05/18] docs/38225 doc change "CDROM" to "CD-ROM" o [2002/05/25] docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to exist o [2002/05/27] docs/38620 doc Committers Guide and CVS o [2002/05/31] docs/38772 doc firewall_type feature not mentioned on Ha o [2002/06/07] docs/38982 doc developers-hanbook/Jail fix o [2002/06/12] docs/39213 doc No rc(4) man page o [2002/06/15] docs/39348 doc kenv fetch of hostname requires dhcp/boot o [2002/06/19] docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broa o [2002/06/19] docs/39532 doc 'find' man page should o [2002/06/24] docs/39824 doc Various tweaks for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/bo o [2002/07/04] docs/40196 doc man find does not describe -follow o [2002/07/10] docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to o [2002/07/10] docs/40443 doc Update books/faq/book.sgml for USB .ko's o [2002/07/21] docs/40851 doc [PATCH] "mergemaster -p" in UPDATING's "C o [2002/07/28] docs/41089 doc pax -B option does not mention interactio o [2002/08/02] docs/41270 doc confusing directions for kernelconfig cha o [2002/08/07] docs/41423 doc Update FAQ: attrib command for windows du o [2002/08/18] docs/41761 doc Update for /ru/internal/ part of site o [2002/08/19] docs/41787 doc man page for route (Section 8) missing de o [2002/08/19] docs/41791 doc Documentation formatting error o [2002/08/19] docs/41807 doc natd -punch_fw "bug" o [2002/08/20] docs/41820 doc Device driver confusion in Handbook (2.3) a [2002/08/27] docs/42058 doc Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto o [2002/10/01] docs/43569 doc src/share/examples/worm/README out-of-dat o [2002/10/04] docs/43651 doc stab(5) incorrectly states to include jus o [2002/10/09] docs/43861 doc non-trivial typo in wicontrol man page o [2002/10/11] docs/43941 doc Rationale for Upgrade Sequence o [2002/10/14] docs/44074 doc ln(1) manual clarifications [patch] o [2002/10/23] docs/44400 doc ipfw(8) has contradictions in bridged and o [2002/10/24] docs/44435 doc sysctl manpage: add example for tcsh o [2002/10/29] docs/44594 doc Handbook doesn't mention drivers.flp for o [2002/11/17] docs/45371 doc man page for exports lacks information on o [2002/12/02] docs/45940 doc burncd missing info o [2002/12/11] docs/46181 doc "make fetch-recursive" target description o [2002/12/11] docs/46196 doc Missing return value in (set_)menu_format o [2002/12/11] docs/46200 doc fix for ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/porters-handbo o [2002/12/16] docs/46291 doc correlation between HZ kernel config para o [2002/12/16] docs/46295 doc please add information to Nvi recovery em o [2003/01/02] docs/46709 doc tables in terminfo.5 are broken o [2003/01/05] docs/46793 doc DEVICE_POLLING can not be used with SMP, o [2003/01/14] docs/47085 doc boot(8) manpage is incomplete according t o [2003/01/27] docs/47575 doc Clarify requirements for IPFW2 in STABLE o [2003/01/28] docs/47594 doc [PATH] passwd(5) incorrectly states allow o [2003/01/30] docs/47690 doc builtin(1) manpage is wrong about externa o [2003/01/30] docs/47705 doc wc(1) manpage has poor explanations. f [2003/02/02] docs/47818 doc ln(1) manpage is confusing f [2003/02/07] docs/48038 doc [PATCH] add Tips and Tricks section into o [2003/02/12] docs/48210 doc make -q only does what the manpage says i o [2003/02/28] docs/48767 doc wrong key numbers for left/right windows o [2003/03/06] docs/48980 doc [PATCH] nsgmls -s errors and sect. 3.2.1 o [2003/03/14] docs/50013 doc [PATCH] add much more russian holydays o [2003/03/23] docs/50211 doc [PATCH] Fix textfile creation o [2003/03/27] docs/50349 doc make release fails with NO_OPENSSH and ! f [2003/03/28] docs/50391 doc Incorrect information in a man o [2003/04/03] docs/50573 doc return values for res_query/res_search/re f [2003/04/07] docs/50677 doc [PATCH] update doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ o [2003/04/10] docs/50773 doc NFS problems by jumbo frames to mention i o [2003/05/06] docs/51875 doc atkbd(4) adjustment o [2003/05/06] docs/51891 doc DIAGNOSTICS in ed driver manpage don't ma o [2003/05/07] docs/51921 doc ls(1) manpage lacks some information abou o [2003/05/11] docs/52071 doc [PATCH] Add more information about soft u o [2003/05/25] docs/52672 doc Porter's Handbook: couple of corrections o [2003/06/02] docs/52878 doc [PATCH] security(7): small clairification o [2003/06/13] docs/53303 doc mount(2) man page error o [2003/06/14] docs/53315 doc [PATCH] remove extraneous whitespace at t o [2003/06/18] docs/53454 doc wrong sample code in manpage of wcwidth(3 o [2003/06/19] docs/53501 doc [PATCH] Handbook: update snapshots sectio o [2003/06/20] docs/53575 doc Change to Handbook Section 20.9 o [2003/06/21] docs/53596 doc Updates to mt manual page o [2003/06/25] docs/53732 doc quota output and man page do not document o [2003/06/26] docs/53751 doc bus_dma(9) incorrectly documents BUS_DMA_ o [2003/07/11] docs/54380 doc [PATCH] document additional perl variable o [2003/07/11] docs/54391 doc Document that glob(3) respects LC_COLLATE o [2003/07/20] docs/54678 doc [patch] add PACKAGESITE to packages chapt o [2003/07/22] docs/54752 doc bus_dma explained in ISA section: should o [2003/07/22] docs/54769 doc [patch] updates to FAQ o [2003/07/23] docs/54789 doc [PATCH] brush up the "New Users" article o [2003/07/24] docs/54806 doc [patch] adds fvwm2 to x11-wm o [2003/07/25] docs/54879 doc man 1 jot, -r description o [2003/07/28] docs/54995 doc Error in accept(2) man page o [2003/07/28] docs/54999 doc Documentation Project Primer doesn't conf o [2003/08/03] docs/55207 doc [patch] update acroread section & add loc o [2003/08/06] docs/55306 doc [patch] adds filemanagers to desktop appl o [2003/08/11] docs/55458 doc [patch] add useful content & hints to por o [2003/08/11] docs/55482 doc DUMP has access to block devices in a JAI o [2003/08/13] docs/55538 doc [patch] add screenshots to desktop chapte o [2003/08/16] docs/55653 doc chflags.1 - note that not all tools chfla o [2003/08/22] docs/55883 doc advanced-networking/chapter.sgml o [2003/09/04] docs/56408 doc [PATCH] add around app-default o [2003/09/04] docs/56452 doc [patch]Add EXTRACT_DEPENDS&PATCH_DEPENDS o [2003/09/13] docs/56745 doc Some suggestions for the Bibliography cha o [2003/09/14] docs/56872 doc [Patch] Talk about EVFILT_NETDEV in kqueu o [2003/09/14] docs/56883 doc Inadequately-documented charter for freeb o [2003/09/15] docs/56901 doc [patch] articles/diskless-x: fix bad engl o [2003/09/15] docs/56902 doc [patch] articles/fbsd-from-scratch: add/f o [2003/09/15] docs/56903 doc [patch] articles/fonts: add application t o [2003/09/16] docs/56915 doc [patch] articles/fonts: update links o [2003/09/16] docs/56932 doc [patch] articles/releng-packages: add "no o [2003/09/16] docs/56936 doc [patch] articles/java-tomcat: add applica o [2003/09/18] docs/56981 doc man terminfo(5) from libncurses does not o [2003/09/19] docs/57027 doc timed.8 nits o [2003/09/22] docs/57090 doc [patch] article/contributors: add Lukas E o [2003/09/22] docs/57118 doc o [2003/09/24] docs/57153 doc S_IRWXU missing in fstat(2) man page? o [2003/09/25] docs/57209 doc [patch] article/mh: add missing docbook t 139 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 29 12:04:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C671C16A4BF; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaft.techsupport.co.uk (shaft.techsupport.co.uk [212.250.77.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD83443FBF; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:04:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from cpc3-cdif2-5-0-cust222.cdif.cable.ntl.com ([81.101.152.222] helo=shrike.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by shaft.techsupport.co.uk with esmtp (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.22) id 1A43JW-0002rd-Vg; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:04:07 +0100 Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.22) id 1A43JU-000DnU-HP; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:04:04 +0100 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:04:04 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Tom Rhodes , simon@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030929190404.GL915@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Tom Rhodes , simon@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20030929105114.5d39d879.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="F4+N/OgRSdC8YnqX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030929105114.5d39d879.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: internal/staff.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:04:09 -0000 --F4+N/OgRSdC8YnqX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 10:51:14AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > -doc team, >=20 > I'm in the process of removing the various 'teams' and 'project' > listings from the articles and moving it all over to the > internal/staff.sgml file. I'd recommend communicating with simon@ regarding this; he ran a similar idea past me a couple of months ago, and may have some work in progress. > My plan was to replace these areas with a link to that page after > the work was completed. If there are any complaints, speak up and > let it be known to me. As I mentioned to simon when he asked me about this, I'm not sure that the internal/ directory is the right place for this, if it's to be the sole pla= ce where the information is available (cf. the name of the directory - I'm not convinced that we should refer users to the internal documentation). Obviously, it would be very nice to have this information stored canonically in one place; I'm just not convinced that /internal is the right one. [More observant readers will note that I'm not proposing anything better; I'm just voicing a concern. Don't let that stop you ;-) ] Ceri --=20 --F4+N/OgRSdC8YnqX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/eIIkocfcwTS3JF8RAv5XAJ4+MEVEeRe5lrxtQZAWQIVQJKm1lACdEEnQ QU4NT3uy45MZVId/Vayk8DU= =35e7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --F4+N/OgRSdC8YnqX-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 29 12:16:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEC816A4B3; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F07244034; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:16:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (acs-24-154-239-120.zoominternet.net [24.154.239.120]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h8TJG9vd057039; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:16:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:15:50 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <20030929151550.3fe57a38.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030929190404.GL915@submonkey.net> References: <20030929105114.5d39d879.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030929190404.GL915@submonkey.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: simon@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: internal/staff.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:16:13 -0000 On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:04:04 +0100 Ceri Davies wrote: > On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 10:51:14AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > -doc team, > > > > I'm in the process of removing the various 'teams' and 'project' > > listings from the articles and moving it all over to the > > internal/staff.sgml file. > > I'd recommend communicating with simon@ regarding this; he ran a similar > idea past me a couple of months ago, and may have some work in progress. Yes, we have already discussed the different ways of going about this. > > > My plan was to replace these areas with a link to that page after > > the work was completed. If there are any complaints, speak up and > > let it be known to me. > > As I mentioned to simon when he asked me about this, I'm not sure that the > internal/ directory is the right place for this, if it's to be the sole place > where the information is available (cf. the name of the directory - I'm not > convinced that we should refer users to the internal documentation). Well, the information can be downloaded by anyone who: A: CVSups the www collection, B: Does a CVS checkout, C: Looks at the internal/ directory in CVS web, D: Just plain visits the directory. > > Obviously, it would be very nice to have this information stored canonically > in one place; I'm just not convinced that /internal is the right one. I like it there in place of duplicating entities and information across two articles and then a web page when I was originally asked to create it. I don't have a problem with moving it all into an article, but then if we wanted to use single entities for say, re members, we would still have entity duplication. I'm currently at a loss on how to avoid this, but it is already there and that is why I just chose the staff.sgml file. > > [More observant readers will note that I'm not proposing anything better; > I'm just voicing a concern. Don't let that stop you ;-) ] Yes, I did notice that. :) While I did draft a patch up for this, I can revert all that work if a more novel idea came about. This is why I asked for comments before committing anything. :) -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 29 20:50:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784AE16A4B3 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386D243FF7 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:50:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8U3oKFY093497 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:50:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8U3oK03093496; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:50:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200309300350.h8U3oK03093496@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Chris Pepper Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3804316A4B3 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.reppep.com (www.reppep.com [66.92.104.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B21F44022 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:43:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pepper@reppep.com) Received: by www.reppep.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 8679AFE68; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:44:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <20030930034413.8679AFE68@www.reppep.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:44:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Pepper To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/57388: INSTALL.TXT enhancement: mention ok prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Pepper List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 03:50:21 -0000 >Number: 57388 >Category: docs >Synopsis: INSTALL.TXT enhancement: mention ok prompt >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 29 20:50:19 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Pepper >Release: FreeBSD 4.9-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD www.reppep.com 4.9-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.9-PRERELEASE #3: Mon Sep 22 19:30:41 EDT 2003 root@www.reppep.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/REPPEP i386 >Description: INSTALL.TXT describes how to time input by beeps, but it would be helpful to mention that the user will see an 'ok' prompt if a display is connected. >How-To-Repeat: gzcat /stand/help/INSTALL.TXT.gz >Fix: --- INSTALL.TXT.diff begins here --- --- INSTALL.TXT Mon Sep 29 21:59:39 2003 +++ INSTALL.TXT.fixed Mon Sep 29 22:01:55 2003 @@ -489,7 +489,8 @@ and insert the mfsroot.flp floppy, after which you should press Enter and wait for another beep. - 5. Hit the space bar, then enter + 5. Hit the space bar (if you have a display connected, it should say + "ok"), then enter boot -h --- INSTALL.TXT.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 29 22:19:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D74B16A4B3 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fh.vix.com (fh.vix.com [204.152.188.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A0B43FD7 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:19:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@vix.com) Received: from vix.com (ww.vix.com [204.152.188.18]) by fh.vix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2956822FFA7 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:19:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paul@vix.com) Message-ID: <3F791478.3070101@vix.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:28:24 -0700 From: paul vixie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: re: web site glitchery X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:19:36 -0000 http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64.html athlon64 is no longer upcoming, it's here. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 29 22:42:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19CB16A4B3 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (ms-2.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A5643FF5 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:42:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@unixpages.org) Received: from r220-1 (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HM0007GKIF7VW@ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de> for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 07:40:20 +0200 (MEST) Received: from relay.RWTH-Aachen.DE ([134.130.3.1]) by r220-1 (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 07:40:19 +0200 (MEST) Received: from haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (mulzirak.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.181.149]) h8U5eIsU020809; 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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 10:28:24PM -0700, paul vixie wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64.html >=20 > athlon64 is no longer upcoming, it's here. >=20 Corrected, thanks. - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --R4+lwT0Y15rLnKR0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/eRc9bHYXjKDtmC0RAsAZAKDL1vlkOTVXOXcjJtB3eU99JbmE+QCdF/9k 6ay2wLtHGLGYohO1fVfwmto= =aSHg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --R4+lwT0Y15rLnKR0-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 30 13:25:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A129116A4BF for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD99943FE9 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:25:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8UKPZxP044624 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:25:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8UKPZ8j044623 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:25:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from www) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:25:35 -0700 (PDT) From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200309302025.h8UKPZ8j044623@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:25:36 -0000 /w/www/build/www/es/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/handbook.html -> /w/www/build/www/es/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html /w/www/build/www/es/doc/es -> /w/www/build/www/es/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1 ===> ../ru (cd ../../../doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/faq; make 'FORMATS=html-split html' DESTDIR=/usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ru/FAQ all) ===> ../ru/security ===> ../ru/commercial ===> ../ru/docproj ===> ../ru/news ===> ../ru/news/1996 ===> ../ru/news/1997 ===> ../ru/news/1998 ===> ../ru/news/1999 ===> ../ru/news/2000 ===> ../ru/news/2001 ===> ../ru/FAQ (cd ../../../doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/faq; make 'FORMATS=html-split html' DESTDIR=/usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ru/FAQ all) ===> ../ru/handbook ===> ../ru/internal ===> ../ru/java ===> ../ru/java/dists ===> ../ru/java/docs ===> ../ru/java/links ===> ../ru/copyright ===> ../ru/search ===> ../ru/gallery ===> ../ru/projects ===> ../ru/platforms ===> ../ru/releases ===> ../ru/smp ===> ../ru/donations /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' index.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/donations > index.html || (/bin/rm -f index.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml index.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' wantlist.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/donations > wantlist.html || (/bin/rm -f wantlist.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml wantlist.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' donors.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/donations > donors.html || (/bin/rm -f donors.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml donors.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> ../ru/ports (cd /w/www/build/www/ru/ports; make -f /w/www/build/www/ru/ports/Makefile.inc0 all) ===> ../ru/relnotes cd: can't cd to /w/www/build/www/ru/relnotes *** Error code 2 Stop in /w/www/build/www/ru. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 158.87 real 72.13 user 41.78 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 30 13:43:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA5316A4B3; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B6A43F93; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:43:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F423110BFAA; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:43:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:43:17 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20030930204315.GA388@FreeBSD.org> References: <20030929105114.5d39d879.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030929190404.GL915@submonkey.net> <20030929151550.3fe57a38.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030929151550.3fe57a38.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: Ceri Davies cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: internal/staff.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:43:21 -0000 --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.09.29 15:15:50 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > [More observant readers will note that I'm not proposing anything bette= r; > > I'm just voicing a concern. Don't let that stop you ;-) ] >=20 > Yes, I did notice that. :) >=20 > While I did draft a patch up for this, I can revert all that work if > a more novel idea came about. This is why I asked for comments before > committing anything. :) Since nobody seems to have a real good idea for doing this, I really think internal/staff.sgml is the best way forward at the moment. I think it is much more important to get all the information up-to-date and gathered at one place, compared to getting it "right". If somebody comes up with a great way; well, that is what CVS is for :). --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/eerjh9pcDSc1mlERAssRAJwLr35QBNQRsxOemFGX83pYVB996gCcCI1x BAP7mkLsxrlCH2wJWZwteQc= =XGz6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 30 13:51:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E62616A4B3; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEA243FF9; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:51:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (acs-24-154-239-120.zoominternet.net [24.154.239.120]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h8UKphvd098935; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:51:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:51:24 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-Id: <20030930165124.2d93dcf3.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030930204315.GA388@FreeBSD.org> References: <20030929105114.5d39d879.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030929190404.GL915@submonkey.net> <20030929151550.3fe57a38.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030930204315.GA388@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Ceri Davies cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: internal/staff.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:51:46 -0000 On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:43:17 +0200 "Simon L. Nielsen" wrote: > On 2003.09.29 15:15:50 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > [More observant readers will note that I'm not proposing anything better; > > > I'm just voicing a concern. Don't let that stop you ;-) ] > > > > Yes, I did notice that. :) > > > > While I did draft a patch up for this, I can revert all that work if > > a more novel idea came about. This is why I asked for comments before > > committing anything. :) > > Since nobody seems to have a real good idea for doing this, I really > think internal/staff.sgml is the best way forward at the moment. Thank you. > > I think it is much more important to get all the information up-to-date > and gathered at one place, compared to getting it "right". If somebody > comes up with a great way; well, that is what CVS is for :). We can actually get it "right" later. Or move it elsewhere later, for now I think having all the data in one place and duplication removed from others will do the trick. I'll let this ride for awhile longer, then I'll commit my WIP. -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 30 15:02:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF4516A4B3 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EC143FE3 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:02:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (acs-24-154-239-120.zoominternet.net [24.154.239.120]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h8UM2Xvd099096 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:02:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:02:15 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20030930180215.7438ba73.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Quick review requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:02:36 -0000 Gang, I'd really appreciate some feedback on the text below. If anyone would like the full patch (images, Makefile, etc) please speak up and I'll send it. Whitespace in added text will be fixed before the initial cvs ci, so comments on short/long lines are not required. Thanks! -- Tom Rhodes --- doc.old/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml Mon Sep 29 13:40:57 2003 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml Mon Sep 29 18:39:26 2003 @@ -3382,6 +3382,233 @@ post-installation configuration. + + Configure Additional Network Services + + Configuring the network services can be a daunting + task for new users if they lack any previous network configuration knowledge. + Configuring a network + is an important aspect of &os;, therefore users should at least + have an understanding of various services available to them. + + Selecting the Networking option will bring forth a menu + similar to the one below: + +
+ Network Configuration Upper-level + + + + + + +
+ + The first option, Interfaces, was previously covered during + the Network Device Configuration section; thus we can bypass + this option. + + Selecting the option adds + support for the BSD auto mount utility. + This is usually used in conjunction with the + NFS protocol (see below) + for automatically mounting remote file systems. + No special configuration + is required here. + + Next in line is the AMD flags + option. When selected, a menu will pop up for you + to enter specific AMD flags. + The menu already contains a set of default options: + + -a /.amd_mnt -l syslog /host /etc/amd.map /net /etc/amd.map + + The -a option specifies the default mount + location which is listed here as /.amd_mnt. + The -l option specifies the default + log file; however, when &man.syslogd.8; is + specified all log activity will be sent to the system log daemon. + The /host is used to mount an exported + file system from a remote hostname, while + /net is used to mount an exported file + system from an IP address. The + /etc/amd.map defines the default options + for AMD exports. + + The Anon FTP should be + self explanatory. Select this option to permit anonymous + FTP logins. Be aware of the security risks + involved with this option. Another menu will be displayed to + explain the security risks and configuration in depth. + + The configuration menu will set + the machine up to be a gateway as explained previously. This + can be used to unset the gateway option if you accidentally + selected it during the installation process. + + The option can be used to configure or + completely disable the &man.inetd.8; daemon as discussed above. + + The is used to configure the system's + default MTA or mail server. Selecting this + option will bring forth the following menu: + +
+ Select a default MTA + + + + + + +
+ + Here the user is given a choice as to which + MTA, or Mail Transfer Agent to install + and set as the default. An MTA is nothing + more than a mail server which delivers email to users on the + system or the Internet. + + Selecting Sendmail will install + the popular Sendmail server which + is the &os; default. The option + will set Sendmail to be the default + MTA, but disables its ability to receive + incoming email from the Internet. The other options here, + Postfix and + Exim act similar to + Sendmail, as in they both deliver + email; however, selecting either of these is more of a user + preference than anything else. + + After selecting an MTA, or choosing + not to select an MTA, we are back at the default menu with + the next option being NFS client. + + The NFS client will + set the machine to work as a client for an + NFS server. An NFS server + exports remotely mounted file systems to other machines on the local + network via the NFS protocol. If this is + a stand alone machine, this option can remain unselected. The + system may require more configuration later, see + for more + information about client and server configuration. + + Below that option is the + NFS server option, + permitting a user to set the system up as an + NFS server. This adds the required + information to start up the RPC remote + procedure call services. RPC is used to + coordinate connections between hosts and programs. + + Next in line is the option, + which deals with time synchronization. When selected, a menu + like the one below shows up: + +
+ Ntpdate Configuration + + + + + + +
+ + From this menu, select the server which is the closest + to your location. Selecting a close one will make the time + synchronization more accurate as a server further from your + location may have more connection latency. + + Our next option is the + PCNFSD selection. This + option will install the + net/pcnfsd package from + the ports collection. This is a useful utility which provides + NFS authentication services for systems which + are unable to provide their own. For instance, Microsoft's + DOS operating system. + + Now we must scroll down a bit to see the other options: + +
+ Network Configuration Lower-level + + + + + + +
+ + The &man.rpcbind.8;, &man.rpc.statd.8;, and + &man.rpc.lockd.8; utilities are all used for Remote Procedure + Calls (RPC). The rpcbind.8 + utility handles the communication between NFS + servers, their clients, and is required for + NFS servers to operate correctly. The + rpc.statd daemon interacts with the + rpc.statd daemon on other hosts to provide + status monitoring. The reported status is usually held in the + /var/db/statd.status file. The final + option listed here is the rpc.lockd option, + which, when selected, will provide for file locking. This is + usually used with rpc.statd to monitor what + hosts are requesting locks and how frequent they request them. + While these last two options are marvelous for debugging, they + are not required for NFS servers and clients + to operate correctly. + + As we progress down the list the next item here is + , which is the route daemon. The + &man.routed.8; utility manages the network routing tables, + discovers multicast routers, and supplies a copy of the routing + tables to any physically connected host on the network upon + request. This is mainly used for routing + connectionless protocols (see &man.icmp.4 and + &man.udp.4;). When selected, a menu will be presented + requesting the default location of the utility. The default + location is already defined for you and can be selected with + the Enter key. You will then be presented + with yet another menu, this time asking for the flags you wish + to be passed on to routed. The default is + -q and it should already appear on the + screen. + + Next in line is the option which, + when selected, will have the &man.rwhod.8; daemon start up + during system initialization. The rwhod + utility broadcasts system messages across the network + periodically, or collects them when in consumer + mode. This utility is great for monitoring the status of + machines on the network, but can be highly annoying when in + producer mode as it will broadcast messages + every three minutes or so. + + Next to the last option in the list we have the + &man.sshd.8; daemon. This is the secure shell server for + OpenSSH and it is highly recommended + over the standard telnet and + FTP servers. The sshd + server is used to create a secure connection from one host to + another by using encryption connections. + + Finally there is the TCP Extensions + option. This enables the TCP Extensions + as defined by RFC 1323 and + RFC 1644. While on many hosts this can + speed up connections, but can also cause some connections to + or be dropped. It is not recommended for servers but may be + beneficial for stand alone machines. + + Now that we have configured the network services, we can + scroll up to the very top item which is + and continue on to the next configuration section. + + + Configure X Server From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 30 16:30:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC2F16A4B3 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C3F43FEC for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8UNU4FY071597 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8UNU4g8071596; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200309302330.h8UNU4g8071596@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Benjamin Lutz Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E533516A4B3 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maxlor.mine.nu (c-213-160-32-54.customer.ggaweb.ch [213.160.32.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B94943FE1 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maxlor@maxlor.mine.nu) Received: by maxlor.mine.nu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A1F5912D29F; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 01:23:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20030930232333.A1F5912D29F@maxlor.mine.nu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 01:23:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Benjamin Lutz To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/57434: Typo in pthread_mutex_init manpage X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Benjamin Lutz List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:30:06 -0000 >Number: 57434 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Typo in pthread_mutex_init manpage >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Sep 30 16:30:04 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Benjamin Lutz >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE-p9 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD midgard 4.8-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE-p9 #3: Fri Sep 26 05:37:19 CEST 2003 maxlor@midgard:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MIDGARD i386 >Description: There's a typo in the pthread_mutex_init manpage. In the ERRORS section, at [EAGAIN], the text reads "The temporarily lacks the resources..." when it (I assume) should read "The process temporarily lacks...". >How-To-Repeat: man pthread_mutex_init >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 30 17:36:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E445116A4BF for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:36:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net [65.242.152.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F374400B for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:36:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpb@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net) Received: from sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (localhost.v6.thrupoint.net [127.0.0.1]) by sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D004E36 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jpb@localhost)h910abLG084837 for FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:36:37 -0400 From: Jim Brown To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20031001003637.GB84749@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20030930180215.7438ba73.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030930180215.7438ba73.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Quick review requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 00:36:41 -0000 * Tom Rhodes [2003-09-30 18:03]: > Gang, > > I'd really appreciate some feedback on the text below. If anyone > would like the full patch (images, Makefile, etc) please speak up > and I'll send it. > > Whitespace in added text will be fixed before the initial cvs ci, > so comments on short/long lines are not required. > > Thanks! > > -- > Tom Rhodes > Comments inline- sorry. I don't have my doc stuff set up on this system so I can't check what it looks like visually. > --- doc.old/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml Mon Sep 29 13:40:57 2003 > +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml Mon Sep 29 18:39:26 2003 > @@ -3382,6 +3382,233 @@ > post-installation configuration. > > > + > + Configure Additional Network Services > + > + Configuring the network services can be a daunting > + task for new users if they lack any previous network configuration knowledge. > + Configuring a network > + is an important aspect of &os;, therefore users should at least > + have an understanding of various services available to them. "Configuring the network..." followed by "configuration" followed by "Configuring the network.." is somewhat repetitive. Can you choose a different word or make it flow a bit better? Also '... the network ...' followed by '... a netowrk ...' seemed to clash for me. Might be just too much coffee though. > + > + Selecting the Networking option will bring forth a menu > + similar to the one below: s/bring forth/display/ seems a bit better to me. > + > +
> + Network Configuration Upper-level > + > + > + > + > + > + > +
> + > + The first option, Interfaces, was previously covered during > + the Network Device Configuration section; thus we can bypass > + this option. You are in the first person here. > + > + Selecting the option adds > + support for the BSD auto mount utility. > + This is usually used in conjunction with the > + NFS protocol (see below) > + for automatically mounting remote file systems. > + No special configuration > + is required here. > + > + Next in line is the AMD flags > + option. When selected, a menu will pop up for you > + to enter specific AMD flags. > + The menu already contains a set of default options: > + > + -a /.amd_mnt -l syslog /host /etc/amd.map /net /etc/amd.map > + > + The -a option specifies the default mount > + location which is listed here as /.amd_mnt. > + The -l option specifies the default > + log file; however, when &man.syslogd.8; is I would use syslog here. The option should never look like 'syslog(8)'. Might confuse a newbie. > + specified all log activity will be sent to the system log daemon. > + The /host is used to mount an exported > + file system from a remote hostname, while > + /net is used to mount an exported file > + system from an IP address. The > + /etc/amd.map defines the default options > + for AMD exports. > + > + The Anon FTP should be > + self explanatory. Select this option to permit anonymous If I'm a newbie, I won't know what is self explanatory. I would offer: "The Anon FTP option permits anonymous ..." or something similar. > + FTP logins. Be aware of the security risks > + involved with this option. Another menu will be displayed to > + explain the security risks and configuration in depth. > + > + The configuration menu will set > + the machine up to be a gateway as explained previously. This > + can be used to unset the gateway option if you accidentally > + selected it during the installation process. > + > + The option can be used to configure or > + completely disable the &man.inetd.8; daemon as discussed above. > + > + The is used to configure the system's > + default MTA or mail server. Selecting this > + option will bring forth the following menu: > + > +
> + Select a default MTA > + > + > + > + > + > + > +
> + > + Here the user is given a choice as to which > + MTA, or Mail Transfer Agent to install > + and set as the default. An MTA is nothing > + more than a mail server which delivers email to users on the > + system or the Internet. > + > + Selecting Sendmail will install > + the popular Sendmail server which > + is the &os; default. The option > + will set Sendmail to be the default > + MTA, but disables its ability to receive > + incoming email from the Internet. The other options here, > + Postfix and > + Exim act similar to > + Sendmail, as in they both deliver "as in they both" doesn't work for me. Perhaps: "Sendmail. They both deliver ..." > + email; however, selecting either of these is more of a user > + preference than anything else. > + > + After selecting an MTA, or choosing > + not to select an MTA, we are back at the default menu with First person. See note at end. > + the next option being NFS client. > + > + The NFS client will > + set the machine to work as a client for an > + NFS server. An NFS server > + exports remotely mounted file systems to other machines on the local > + network via the NFS protocol. If this is > + a stand alone machine, this option can remain unselected. The > + system may require more configuration later, see > + for more > + information about client and server configuration. > + > + Below that option is the > + NFS server option, > + permitting a user to set the system up as an > + NFS server. This adds the required > + information to start up the RPC remote > + procedure call services. RPC is used to > + coordinate connections between hosts and programs. > + > + Next in line is the option, > + which deals with time synchronization. When selected, a menu > + like the one below shows up: > + > +
> + Ntpdate Configuration > + > + > + > + > + > + > +
> + > + From this menu, select the server which is the closest > + to your location. Selecting a close one will make the time > + synchronization more accurate as a server further from your > + location may have more connection latency. > + > + Our next option is the > + PCNFSD selection. This > + option will install the > + net/pcnfsd package from > + the ports collection. This is a useful utility which provides > + NFS authentication services for systems which > + are unable to provide their own. For instance, Microsoft's > + DOS operating system. > + > + Now we must scroll down a bit to see the other options: > + > +
> + Network Configuration Lower-level > + > + > + > + > + > + > +
> + > + The &man.rpcbind.8;, &man.rpc.statd.8;, and > + &man.rpc.lockd.8; utilities are all used for Remote Procedure > + Calls (RPC). The rpcbind.8 > + utility handles the communication between NFS > + servers, their clients, and is required for > + NFS servers to operate correctly. The > + rpc.statd daemon interacts with the > + rpc.statd daemon on other hosts to provide > + status monitoring. The reported status is usually held in the > + /var/db/statd.status file. The final > + option listed here is the rpc.lockd option, > + which, when selected, will provide for file locking. This is > + usually used with rpc.statd to monitor what > + hosts are requesting locks and how frequent they request them. > + While these last two options are marvelous for debugging, they > + are not required for NFS servers and clients > + to operate correctly. > + > + As we progress down the list the next item here is > + , which is the route daemon. The Is the option really 'Routd' or 'Routed'? I don't have a way to check this at the moment. > + &man.routed.8; utility manages the network routing tables, > + discovers multicast routers, and supplies a copy of the routing > + tables to any physically connected host on the network upon > + request. This is mainly used for routing > + connectionless protocols (see &man.icmp.4 and > + &man.udp.4;). When selected, a menu will be presented > + requesting the default location of the utility. The default > + location is already defined for you and can be selected with > + the Enter key. You will then be presented > + with yet another menu, this time asking for the flags you wish > + to be passed on to routed. The default is > + -q and it should already appear on the > + screen. > + > + Next in line is the option which, > + when selected, will have the &man.rwhod.8; daemon start up > + during system initialization. The rwhod > + utility broadcasts system messages across the network > + periodically, or collects them when in consumer > + mode. This utility is great for monitoring the status of > + machines on the network, but can be highly annoying when in > + producer mode as it will broadcast messages > + every three minutes or so. > + > + Next to the last option in the list we have the Usually seen as: The next to last option in the list we have the ... > + &man.sshd.8; daemon. This is the secure shell server for > + OpenSSH and it is highly recommended > + over the standard telnet and > + FTP servers. The sshd > + server is used to create a secure connection from one host to > + another by using encryption connections. s/encryption/encrypted/ seems better to me. > + > + Finally there is the TCP Extensions > + option. This enables the TCP Extensions > + as defined by RFC 1323 and > + RFC 1644. While on many hosts this can > + speed up connections, but can also cause some connections to s/but/it/ seems better to me. > + or be dropped. It is not recommended for servers but may be s/or// > + beneficial for stand alone machines. > + > + Now that we have configured the network services, we can > + scroll up to the very top item which is > + and continue on to the next configuration section. > + > + > + > > Configure X Server General Note: The text fluctuates between first, second, and third person- sometimes in close proximity. You may wish to review this as it causes an unnecessary shift in perspective for the reader. Quite a good effort overall. As always all comments meant with Best Regards, jpb === From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 30 18:00:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A9D16A4B3 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:00:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3284400D for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:00:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9110gFY081790 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:00:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h9110gl4081789; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:00:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:00:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200310010100.h9110gl4081789@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Ken Smith Subject: Re: docs/57434: Typo in pthread_mutex_init manpage X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ken Smith List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 01:00:43 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/57434; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ken Smith To: Benjamin Lutz Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/57434: Typo in pthread_mutex_init manpage Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:56:37 -0400 On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 01:23:33AM +0200, Benjamin Lutz wrote: > >Description: > There's a typo in the pthread_mutex_init manpage. In the ERRORS section, > at [EAGAIN], the text reads "The temporarily lacks the resources..." > when it (I assume) should read "The process temporarily lacks...". > >How-To-Repeat: > man pthread_mutex_init > I checked the definition of pthread_mutex_init in: -current /usr/src/lib/libpthread/thread/thr_mutex.c -stable /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_mutex.c Unless I missed something neither is capable of returning EAGAIN. The other errors listed in the manpage are possible. :-) Is there a procedure for following up on this with a developer to make sure I'm not mistaken? -- Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel | From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 30 19:00:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054CB16A4B3 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [65.60.36.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952594401A for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:00:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chern@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2135) id 991A61CC71; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97CB21CC51 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:02:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Chern Lee X-X-Sender: chern@mall.freebsdmall.com To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030930190117.W63397@mall.freebsdmall.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Binary Formats in UNIX Basics X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 02:00:14 -0000 Section 3.12, Binary Formats, http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/handbook/binary-formats.html, surely doesn't belong in the UNIX Basics chapter. I believe it is probably more appropriate somewhere in the Appendix, but we don't have an appropriate section there either. Any suggestions on where it belongs? - chern From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 30 19:10:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79D216A4B3; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU [128.205.32.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18D743FE1; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:10:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (kensmith@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h912ATus028806; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:10:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kensmith@localhost) by electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id h912ATM1028805; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:10:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:10:29 -0400 From: Ken Smith To: Chern Lee Message-ID: <20031001021029.GC28258@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> References: <20030930190117.W63397@mall.freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030930190117.W63397@mall.freebsdmall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Binary Formats in UNIX Basics X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 02:10:32 -0000 On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 07:02:43PM -0700, Chern Lee wrote: > Section 3.12, Binary Formats, > http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/handbook/binary-formats.html, surely doesn't > belong in the UNIX Basics chapter. > > I believe it is probably more appropriate somewhere in the Appendix, but > we don't have an appropriate section there either. > > Any suggestions on where it belongs? I'm not totally sure, but PR docs/54461 has some extra stuff that could be added to it where it sits now that makes it a *little* more introductory in nature. :-) -- Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel | From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 30 21:17:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2E916A4B3; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.reppep.com (www.reppep.com [66.92.104.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F9C43F93; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:17:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pepper@reppep.com) Received: from [66.92.104.201] (g4.reppep.com [66.92.104.201]) by www.reppep.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C9BFE65; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 00:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: pepper@mail.reppep.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20030930180215.7438ba73.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> References: <20030930180215.7438ba73.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 00:13:44 -0400 To: Tom Rhodes From: Chris Pepper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Quick review requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 04:17:52 -0000 At 6:02 PM -0400 2003/09/30, Tom Rhodes wrote: Tom, As someone who went through the options tonight, I found this very helpful. I have lots of niggles, though... >--- doc.old/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml > Mon Sep 29 13:40:57 2003 >+++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml Mon >Sep 29 18:39:26 2003 >@@ -3382,6 +3382,233 @@ > post-installation configuration. > > >+ >+ Configure Additional Network Services >+ >+ Configuring the network services can be a daunting s/the network/network/ (any network services; not a canonical set) >+ task for new users if they lack any previous network >configuration knowledge. s/lack any previous/lack previous/ (people might have some, but still be intimidated) >+ Configuring a network >+ is an important aspect of &os;, therefore users should at least >+ have an understanding of various services available to them. Nah, networking is an important aspect of FreeBSD; configuring a network is an important aspect of managing a FBSD system. I actually think "have an understanding of various services" is too ambitious -- most users don't know about most of the network ports that are available. How about: Networking (including the Internet) is critical to all modern operating systems, including &os;; as a result, it's very useful to have some understanding &os;'s extensive networking capabilities. >+ -a /.amd_mnt -l syslog /host /etc/amd.map /net >/etc/amd.map >+ >+ The -a option specifies the default mount >+ location which is listed here as /.amd_mnt. s/location which is listed/location, which is specified/ >+ The -l option specifies the default >+ log file; however, when &man.syslogd.8; is >+ specified all log activity will be sent to the system log daemon. >+ The /host is used to mount an exported s/is used/argument is used/ >+ file system from a remote hostname, while s/hostname,/host,/ >+ /net is used to mount an exported file >+ system from an IP address. The >+ /etc/amd.map defines the default options s/defines/file defines/ >+ for AMD exports. >+ The is used to configure the system's s/is/option is/ >+ default MTA or mail server. Selecting this s/MTA or/MTA, "Mail Transport Agent, or/ (spell it out the first time, not later) >+ option will bring forth the following menu: s/forth/up/ >+ Selecting Sendmail will install >+ the popular Sendmail server which >+ is the &os; default. The option >+ will set Sendmail to be the default >+ MTA, but disables its ability to receive s/disables/disable/ >+ incoming email from the Internet. The other options here, >+ Postfix and >+ Exim act similar to s/Exim act/Exim, act/ >+ Sendmail, as in they both deliver s/as in/in that/ >+ email; however, selecting either of these is more of a user >+ preference than anything else. s/selecting either of these is more of a user preference than anything else./some people prefer these alternatives to the Sendmail MTA. >+ The NFS client will >+ set the machine to work as a client for an >+ NFS server. An NFS server s/set the machine to work as a client for an NFS server./configures the system to communicate with a server via NFS. >+ exports remotely mounted file systems to other machines on the local s/exports remotely mounted file systems/makes file systems available/ s/local// >+ network via the NFS protocol. If this is >+ a stand alone machine, this option can remain unselected. The >+ system may require more configuration later, see s/later, see/later; see/ >+ for more >+ information about client and server configuration. >+ Our next option is the >+ PCNFSD selection. This >+ option will install the >+ net/pcnfsd package from >+ the ports collection. This is a useful utility which provides >+ NFS authentication services for systems which >+ are unable to provide their own. For instance, Microsoft's s/their own. For instance,/their own, such as/ >+ DOS operating system. >+ The &man.rpcbind.8;, &man.rpc.statd.8;, and >+ &man.rpc.lockd.8; utilities are all used for Remote Procedure >+ Calls (RPC). The rpcbind.8 >+ utility handles the communication between NFS s/handles the communication/manages communication/ >+ servers, their clients, and is required for s/servers, their clients/servers and clients/ >+ NFS servers to operate correctly. The >+ rpc.statd daemon interacts with the >+ rpc.statd daemon on other hosts to provide >+ status monitoring. The reported status is usually held in the >+ /var/db/statd.status file. The final >+ option listed here is the rpc.lockd option, >+ which, when selected, will provide for file locking. This is s/will provide for for file locking./provides file locking services./ >+ usually used with rpc.statd to monitor what >+ hosts are requesting locks and how frequent they request them. /frequent/frequently/ >+ While these last two options are marvelous for debugging, they >+ are not required for NFS servers and clients >+ to operate correctly. >+ >+ As we progress down the list the next item here is >+ , which is the route daemon. The s/Routd/Routed/ s/route daemon./routing daemon./ >+ &man.routed.8; utility manages the network routing tables, s/the network/network/ (other programs may manage such tables separately) >+ discovers multicast routers, and supplies a copy of the routing >+ tables to any physically connected host on the network upon >+ request. This is mainly used for routing >+ connectionless protocols (see &man.icmp.4 and >+ &man.udp.4;). When selected, a menu will be presented >+ requesting the default location of the utility. The default >+ location is already defined for you and can be selected with >+ the Enter key. You will then be presented >+ with yet another menu, this time asking for the flags you wish >+ to be passed on to routed. The default is s/to be passed on to/to pass on/ >+ -q and it should already appear on the >+ screen. >+ >+ Next in line is the option which, >+ when selected, will have the &man.rwhod.8; daemon start up s/will have the &man.rwhod.8; daemon start up/will start the &man.rwhod.8; daemon/ >+ during system initialization. The rwhod >+ utility broadcasts system messages across the network >+ periodically, or collects them when in consumer >+ mode. This utility is great for monitoring the status of >+ machines on the network, but can be highly annoying when in >+ producer mode as it will broadcast messages >+ every three minutes or so. >+ >+ Next to the last option in the list we have the >+ &man.sshd.8; daemon. This is the secure shell server for >+ OpenSSH and it is highly recommended >+ over the standard telnet and >+ FTP servers. The sshd >+ server is used to create a secure connection from one host to >+ another by using encryption connections. s/another by using encryption connections/another using encrypted connections/ or /another using encrypted communications/ >+ Finally there is the TCP Extensions >+ option. This enables the TCP Extensions >+ as defined by RFC 1323 and s/as defined by/defined in/ (it doesn't enable all extensions) >+ RFC 1644. While on many hosts this can >+ speed up connections, but can also cause some connections to s/but can/it can/ >+ or be dropped. It is not recommended for servers but may be >+ beneficial for stand alone machines. It's the default in my 4.9-rc1 install running now; should it be turned off? Where is more info on the implications available? Chris Pepper -- Chris Pepper: Rockefeller University: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 1 02:24:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AEC16A4B3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 02:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD0543FA3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 02:24:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h919OgxP097827 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 02:24:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h919OguQ097826 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 02:24:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from www) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 02:24:42 -0700 (PDT) From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200310010924.h919OguQ097826@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 09:24:43 -0000 install -c -o www -g www -m 444 book.html /w/www/build/www/es/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/faq install -c -o www -g www -m 444 docbook.css /w/www/build/www/es/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/faq ===> ../es/doc/books/handbook install -c -o www -g www -m 444 $(/usr/bin/xargs < HTML.manifest) /w/www/build/www/es/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/handbook install -c -o www -g www -m 444 docbook.css /w/www/build/www/es/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/handbook install -c -o www -g www -m 444 book.html /w/www/build/www/es/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/handbook install -c -o www -g www -m 444 docbook.css /w/www/build/www/es/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/handbook /w/www/build/www/es/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/handbook.html -> /w/www/build/www/es/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html /w/www/build/www/es/doc/es -> /w/www/build/www/es/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1 ===> ../ru (cd ../../../doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/faq; make 'FORMATS=html-split html' DESTDIR=/usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ru/FAQ all) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' send-pr.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru > send-pr.html || (/bin/rm -f send-pr.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml send-pr.html ===> ../ru/security ===> ../ru/commercial ===> ../ru/docproj ===> ../ru/news ===> ../ru/news/1996 ===> ../ru/news/1997 ===> ../ru/news/1998 ===> ../ru/news/1999 ===> ../ru/news/2000 ===> ../ru/news/2001 ===> ../ru/FAQ (cd ../../../doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/faq; make 'FORMATS=html-split html' DESTDIR=/usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ru/FAQ all) ===> ../ru/handbook ===> ../ru/internal ===> ../ru/java ===> ../ru/java/dists ===> ../ru/java/docs ===> ../ru/java/links ===> ../ru/copyright ===> ../ru/search ===> ../ru/gallery ===> ../ru/projects ===> ../ru/platforms ===> ../ru/releases ===> ../ru/smp ===> ../ru/donations ===> ../ru/ports (cd /w/www/build/www/ru/ports; make -f /w/www/build/www/ru/ports/Makefile.inc0 all) ===> ../ru/relnotes cd: can't cd to /w/www/build/www/ru/relnotes *** Error code 2 Stop in /w/www/build/www/ru. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 3708.15 real 2180.00 user 133.05 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 1 06:00:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8664F16A4B3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 06:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out.smtp.cz (out.smtp.cz [81.95.97.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF35D43FBD for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 06:00:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jan@husar.info) Received: (qmail 7896 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2003 13:00:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail.servery.cz) (jan@husar.info@81.95.96.7) by out.smtp.cz with SMTP; 1 Oct 2003 13:00:47 -0000 Received: from 194.154.232.120 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jan@husar.info) by webmail.servery.cz with HTTP; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:00:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1125.194.154.232.120.1065013247.squirrel@webmail.servery.cz> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:00:47 +0200 (CEST) From: "Jan 'rejden' Husar" To: doc@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 06:54:48 -0700 Subject: Translation of documents to slovak language (slovakia / slovak republic) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jan@husar.info List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 13:00:50 -0000 Hi, i`m translating some freebsd Books and Articles to slovak language and i want to ask in which format you want it, i`m doing it all in pdf, the freebsd handbook is 70% translated and other will follow, so if u can navigate me a little into what you need, also i want translate all system manuals (but in future of course :) If u have any other documents/articles/manuals you want to translate, i will do it. Please answear me as soon as you can, ps : i love opensource :] Sincerely your`s -- Jan "rejden" Husar business: personel: www.husar.info www.hysteria.sk/rejden/ jan@husar.info rejden@hysteria.sk +421904361878 ICQ: 146301796 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 1 10:05:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98B316A4B3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4BE43FAF; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:05:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kensmith@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (kensmith@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h91H5eFY049495; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:05:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kensmith@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from kensmith@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h91H5eiQ049491; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:05:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kensmith) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:05:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Smith Message-Id: <200310011705.h91H5eiQ049491@freefall.freebsd.org> To: kensmith@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, kensmith@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/57434: Typo in pthread_mutex_init manpage X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 17:05:40 -0000 Synopsis: Typo in pthread_mutex_init manpage Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->kensmith Responsible-Changed-By: kensmith Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Oct 1 10:04:38 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this one. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=57434 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 1 12:07:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CE616A4B3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C39143FBF for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:07:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (acs-24-154-239-120.zoominternet.net [24.154.239.120]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h91J7Vvd001823; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:07:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:07:12 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Chris Pepper Message-Id: <20031001150712.630b1c27.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20030930180215.7438ba73.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Quick review requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 19:07:34 -0000 On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 00:13:44 -0400 Chris Pepper wrote: > At 6:02 PM -0400 2003/09/30, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > Tom, > > As someone who went through the options tonight, I found this > very helpful. I have lots of niggles, though... [SNIP] > > >+ or be dropped. It is not recommended for servers but may be > >+ beneficial for stand alone machines. > > It's the default in my 4.9-rc1 install running now; should it > be turned off? Where is more info on the implications available? >From what I've been told (and even read at one point?), if you are running apache, these should be disabled. I've been told it can cause problems for almost any server/service running. Verification would be helpful from someone with more knowledge in this area though (Jeffery Hsu?). -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 1 12:15:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C6316A4B3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424EB43FAF for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:15:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (acs-24-154-239-120.zoominternet.net [24.154.239.120]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h91JFqvd001860; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:15:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:15:33 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Jim Brown Message-Id: <20031001151533.2ee29ba5.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20031001003637.GB84749@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> References: <20030930180215.7438ba73.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20031001003637.GB84749@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Quick review requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 19:15:54 -0000 On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:36:37 -0400 Jim Brown wrote: > * Tom Rhodes [2003-09-30 18:03]: > > Gang, > > > > I'd really appreciate some feedback on the text below. If anyone > > would like the full patch (images, Makefile, etc) please speak up > > and I'll send it. > > > > Whitespace in added text will be fixed before the initial cvs ci, > > so comments on short/long lines are not required. > > > > Thanks! > > > > -- > > Tom Rhodes > > > > > Comments inline- sorry. I don't have my doc stuff set up on this system > so I can't check what it looks like visually. > Thank you Jim, and everyone who sent me comments either on list or off. They are always extremely helpful in noticing my sometimes trivial mistakes. -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 1 19:28:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DA116A4B3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buh.cameradicommercio.ro (buh.cameradicommercio.ro [81.196.25.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF4743FE0 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from itetcu@apropo.ro) Received: from buh.cameradicommercio.ro (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by buh.cameradicommercio.ro (Postfix) with SMTP id 5528A58; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:28:50 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:28:49 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: jan@husar.info Message-Id: <20031002052849.2639b2ab.itetcu@apropo.ro> In-Reply-To: <1125.194.154.232.120.1065013247.squirrel@webmail.servery.cz> References: <1125.194.154.232.120.1065013247.squirrel@webmail.servery.cz> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Translation of documents to slovak language (slovakia / slovak republic) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 02:28:56 -0000 On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:00:47 +0200 (CEST) "Jan 'rejden' Husar" wrote: > Hi, > i`m translating some freebsd Books and Articles to slovak language > and i want to ask in which format you want it, i`m doing it all in > pdf, the freebsd handbook is 70% translated and other will follow, > so if u can navigate me a little into what you need, also i want > translate all system manuals (but in future of course :) > If u have any other documents/articles/manuals you want to > translate, i will do it. > Please answear me as soon as you can, > > ps : i love opensource :] > > Sincerely your`s Read: /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/book.html (or http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/). It will be of little use if doing it in pdf. And it's not hard to write it right, SGML' DTD are like html, so to speak, so if you want to value you time do it this way. Use the doc make system to generate html, pdf, ps, etc. Pay attention to the locale your using, as you need "extra characters" apart from standard asci (western, ISO8859-1), probably ISO8859-2. My suggestion is to cvsup the docs-all to work on the most recent version and the one of the existing version like template, and to the translation "on place". IOnut -- IOnut FreeBSD unregistered ;) user From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 1 19:32:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA1116A4B3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net [65.242.152.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2F643FDD for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:32:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpb@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net) Received: from sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (localhost.v6.thrupoint.net [127.0.0.1]) by sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CEC64E36 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:32:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jpb@localhost)h922W7Z5087161 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:32:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:32:07 -0400 From: Jim Brown To: doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031002023207.GA87080@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Mail-Followup-To: doc@freebsd.org References: <1125.194.154.232.120.1065013247.squirrel@webmail.servery.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1125.194.154.232.120.1065013247.squirrel@webmail.servery.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Translation of documents to slovak language (slovakia / slovak republic) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 02:32:10 -0000 * Jan 'rejden' Husar [2003-10-01 09:54]: > Hi, > i`m translating some freebsd Books and Articles to slovak language and i > want to ask in which format you want it, i`m doing it all in pdf, the See http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/docproj.html for information about the FreeBSD Documentation project. This overview contains links on the documentation set, submitting documentation and translations. > freebsd handbook is 70% translated and other will follow, so if u can > navigate me a little into what you need, also i want translate all system What 'we' need is what 'you' need. Feel free to translate as many documents as you wish. See http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/translations.html for examples of what other translation teams have done. Perhaps you can set up a website for your translations so others can get access your work. > manuals (but in future of course :) > If u have any other documents/articles/manuals you want to translate, i > will do it. > Please answear me as soon as you can, > > ps : i love opensource :] Glad to hear it. Welcome aboard. > > Sincerely your`s > > > -- > Jan "rejden" Husar > business: personel: > www.husar.info www.hysteria.sk/rejden/ > jan@husar.info rejden@hysteria.sk > +421904361878 ICQ: 146301796 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Best Regards, Jim B. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 2 03:33:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0678916A4B3; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 03:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3A043FCB; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 03:33:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (brueffer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92AXZFY034839; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 03:33:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brueffer@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brueffer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h92AXUCe034835; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:33:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from brueffer) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:33:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Brueffer Message-Id: <200310021033.h92AXUCe034835@freefall.freebsd.org> To: j.el-rayes@daemon.li, brueffer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/57090: [patch] article/contributors: add Lukas Ertl X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 10:33:36 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] article/contributors: add Lukas Ertl State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: brueffer State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 2 12:33:11 CEST 2003 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=57090 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 2 05:12:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F8E16A4B3 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from istanbul.enderunix.org (freefall.marmara.edu.tr [193.140.143.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96E2143FFD for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:12:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ofsen@enderunix.org) Received: (qmail 56628 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2003 12:11:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO istanbul.enderunix.org) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.marmara.edu.tr with SMTP; 2 Oct 2003 12:11:59 -0000 Received: (from vpopmail@localhost) by istanbul.enderunix.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h92CBsvq056624; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:11:54 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <200310021211.h92CBsvq056624@istanbul.enderunix.org> X-Authentication-Warning: istanbul.enderunix.org: vpopmail set sender to ofsen@enderunix.org using -f From: Omer Faruk Sen To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 15:11:54 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: core@enderunix.org Subject: Turkish Translation Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 12:12:13 -0000 Hi, We as EnderUNIX.ORG have started to translate FreeBSD Documents in to Turkish language. We have translated some documents in both www and doc. I have successfully compiled and installed www pages and there seems to be no mistake. But as of know I can not compile doc tree because another document isn't compiling but the part that we have translated should compile without any problem. Before submitting changes with send-pr I think it is a good idea to inform both -doc and -www mailing list thus list members can try that patches. I am sending the link of patches since adding them here is inconvenient for all of us. -----------start-of-adv------------------------- EnderUNIX.ORG is trying to promote BSD operating systems in various ways. We write both Turkish and English BSD spesific documents and also host an emailing list for Turkish speaking people which is also in www.freebsd.org's international maling list. It is archived at http://lists.enderunix.org ----------end-of-adv-------------------------- Patches for www and doc tree are located at http://www.enderunix.org/trans_proj/tr_doc.diff (for doc tree) http://www.enderunix.org/trans_proj/tr_webpages.diff2 (for www tree) REGARDS ----------------------- Omer Faruk Sen http://www.EnderUNIX.ORG Software Development Team @ Turkey http://www.Faruk.NET For Public key: http://www.enderunix.org/ofsen/ofsen.asc ******************************************************** FreeBSD - because Unix isn't just #include ! From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 2 09:07:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A9016A4B3 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m23.nyc.untd.com (m23.nyc.untd.com [64.136.22.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4AB2C43FCB for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:07:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gs_stoller@juno.com) Received: from cookie.untd.com by cookie.untd.com for <"/s5f1SIGSI3+WdnoYQ8yRDqN3KHjRr/mAhh6CMIj983/+iX0kGfHLw==">; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 09:07:08 PDT Received: (from gs_stoller@juno.com) by m23.nyc.untd.com (jqueuemail) id JBHFWA5K; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 09:07:08 PDT To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:33:05 -0400 Message-ID: <20031002.120620.-165803.0.GS_Stoller@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 5,12 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Gerald S Stoller Subject: color in messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 16:07:52 -0000 It is possible to put color in the FreeBSD messages, I have seen the font color change when I used 'ls -G'. I would also like to change the color of the background. Unfortunately i have seen no documentation on how to do this. May i suggest that something brief be written about this so people can start using color (ASAP) and send me a copy, then do a more extensive version (if needed for a formal release. I tried to find special characters in the output of 'ls -G' by piping it through a tee but it seems that ls checks on the destination of its STDOUT and if it not directly to the screen it removes the color modifying code from it. Were i to have coded ls , I would leave the color modifying code always in the output and maybe provide another utiliity that removes it through which one could pipe the output if one wanted the color modifying code removed. Probably this question is better directed at the XFree86 people but I haven't gotten a good reply from them. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 2 09:53:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB07A16A4B3; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7653343F85; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:53:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h92Gf7Td033687; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:41:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h92GU4W4007009; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:30:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h92GTwMN007005; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:29:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:29:57 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Omer Faruk Sen Message-ID: <20031002162957.GC555@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <200310021211.h92CBsvq056624@istanbul.enderunix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200310021211.h92CBsvq056624@istanbul.enderunix.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: core@enderunix.org Subject: Re: Turkish Translation Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 16:53:22 -0000 On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 03:11:54PM +0300, Omer Faruk Sen wrote: > Hi, [...] Merhaba Omer > > Patches for www and doc tree are located at > > http://www.enderunix.org/trans_proj/tr_doc.diff (for doc tree) > http://www.enderunix.org/trans_proj/tr_webpages.diff2 (for www tree) > I'll try to add at least the doc/ part on tomorrow or this weekend. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 2 17:45:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA7D16A4B3; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9D743FAF; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:45:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from naddy@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (naddy@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h930jHFY075013; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:45:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from naddy@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from naddy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h930jHYv075009; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:45:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from naddy) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:45:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Christian Weisgerber Message-Id: <200310030045.h930jHYv075009@freefall.freebsd.org> To: naddy@FreeBSD.org, naddy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/57027: timed.8 nits X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 00:45:18 -0000 Synopsis: timed.8 nits State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: naddy State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 2 17:44:34 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Committed after consulting with simon. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=57027 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 3 00:55:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C004516A4B3 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 00:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gandalf.online.bg (gandalf.online.bg [217.75.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D02DF43FE9 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 00:55:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 5648 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2003 07:55:15 -0000 Received: from office.sbnd.net (HELO straylight.ringlet.net) (217.75.140.130) by gandalf.online.bg with SMTP; 3 Oct 2003 07:55:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 22187 invoked by uid 1000); 3 Oct 2003 07:55:18 -0000 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:55:18 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: Gerald S Stoller Message-ID: <20031003075518.GE546@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Gerald S Stoller , FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20031002.120620.-165803.0.GS_Stoller@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eRtJSFbw+EEWtPj3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031002.120620.-165803.0.GS_Stoller@juno.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: color in messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 07:55:25 -0000 --eRtJSFbw+EEWtPj3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:33:05PM -0400, Gerald S Stoller wrote: > It is possible to put color in the FreeBSD messages, I have > seen the font color change when I used 'ls -G'. I would also like to > change the color of the background. Unfortunately i have seen no > documentation on how to do this. May i suggest that something brief be > written about this so people can start using color (ASAP) and send me a > copy, then do a more extensive version (if needed for a formal release. > I tried to find special characters in the output of 'ls -G' by > piping it through a tee but it seems that ls checks on the > destination of its STDOUT and if it not directly to the screen it > removes the color modifying code from it. Were i to have coded ls , I > would leave the color modifying code always in the output and maybe > provide another utiliity that removes it through which one could pipe the > output if one wanted the color modifying code removed. > Probably this question is better directed at the XFree86 people > but I haven't gotten a good reply from them. No, not exactly XFree86. Using colors in a terminal window predates XFree86 (and even the X Window System) by a long shot :) There are basically two ways for a program to display text in a different color (or background): the easy, but possibly very, very wrong way of using ANSI (CSI) escape sequences directly, and the somewhat harder, but much more portable and mostly guaranteed to work better way of querying the database of terminal capabilities. The ANSI escape sequences are a more or less established standard for common ways for a program to control its output on most terminals out there. They consist of sending an Escape character (ASCII code 27, 0x1C) followed by a '[' character, then some optional parameters, and a command character (usually a letter). For a list of the available commands see e.g. . However, using ANSI escape sequences unconditionally may be a Bad Thing(tm) on a terminal that does not support them - it will either output lots and lots of garbage (quite confusing for the user), or it might even interpret the sequences as some different set of commands and do something entirely unexpected. Most terminals out there support most ANSI sequences, but.. be warned :) The better, more portable way to do this would be to see if the OS (or rather, its application libraries such as libc) supports the termcap database - a unified database of information about the display capabilities of a wide range of terminals. This is done using the tgetent() and similar functions, described in the termcap(3) manual page. The basic idea is that the database contains an entry for each of the common (and some quite uncommon) terminal types as defined by the TERM environment variable, so that the program knows whether the terminal can e.g. change colors or move the cursor to a desired position or change characters and so on, and what exactly is the character sequence that will make it do so. For more information on the termcap database, take a look at . Hope this helped a bit :) G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@sbnd.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 The rest of this sentence is written in Thailand, on --eRtJSFbw+EEWtPj3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/fStm7Ri2jRYZRVMRAhbdAKCfGoJu/EsSu9JPnq/4uykFT32yIQCeM0/Y 17ilYYDqvI1vqwlYDE/q4bI= =Lj/5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eRtJSFbw+EEWtPj3-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 3 01:15:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EB216A4B3 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gandalf.online.bg (gandalf.online.bg [217.75.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 53E1743FFB for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:15:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 10426 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2003 08:15:31 -0000 Received: from office.sbnd.net (HELO straylight.ringlet.net) (217.75.140.130) by gandalf.online.bg with SMTP; 3 Oct 2003 08:15:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 22647 invoked by uid 1000); 3 Oct 2003 08:15:34 -0000 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:15:34 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: Gerald S Stoller Message-ID: <20031003081534.GF546@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Gerald S Stoller , FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20031002.120620.-165803.0.GS_Stoller@juno.com> <20031003075518.GE546@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d01dLTUuW90fS44H" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031003075518.GE546@straylight.oblivion.bg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: color in messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 08:15:40 -0000 --d01dLTUuW90fS44H Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 10:55:18AM +0300, Peter Pentchev wrote: [snip] > The better, more portable way to do this would be to see if the OS (or > rather, its application libraries such as libc) supports the termcap > database - a unified database of information about the display > capabilities of a wide range of terminals. This is done using the > tgetent() and similar functions, described in the termcap(3) manual > page. The basic idea is that the database contains an entry for each of > the common (and some quite uncommon) terminal types as defined by the > TERM environment variable, so that the program knows whether the > terminal can e.g. change colors or move the cursor to a desired position > or change characters and so on, and what exactly is the character > sequence that will make it do so. For more information on the termcap > database, take a look at > . =2E..and, of course, the termcap(5) and termcap(3) manual pages :) G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@sbnd.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 If the meanings of 'true' and 'false' were switched, then this sentence wou= ldn't be false. --d01dLTUuW90fS44H Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/fTAm7Ri2jRYZRVMRAvTkAKDCJ+t7xK9z9NQ+vvf/s+8IpQqQWACeMUPQ qHGWgKe6waSSa8axVoB5H7I= =ugNQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --d01dLTUuW90fS44H-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 3 07:50:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B320F16A4B3 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DEF43FF2 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:50:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h93EoHFY046276 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:50:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h93EoHwB046275; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:50:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200310031450.h93EoHwB046275@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, mark@remotelab.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E0F16A4C0 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 194-185-53-242.f5.ngi.it (194-185-53-242.f5.ngi.it [194.185.53.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED1343FDD for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:48:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@remotelab.org) Received: from einstein.lab (einstein.lab [192.168.168.2]) h93EmMUX017828 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:48:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mark@remotelab.org) Received: from einstein.lab (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by einstein.lab (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h93Em57Y000369 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:48:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mark@einstein.lab) Received: (from mark@localhost) by einstein.lab (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id h93Em4ms000368; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:48:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mark) Message-Id: <200310031448.h93Em4ms000368@einstein.lab> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:48:04 +0200 (CEST) From: mark@remotelab.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/57541: Some suggestions for the Basics chapter of the Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mark@remotelab.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 14:50:22 -0000 >Number: 57541 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Some suggestions for the Basics chapter of the Handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Oct 03 07:50:17 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Marco T. >Release: FreeBSD 4.9-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD einstein.lab 4.9-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.9-PRERELEASE #0: Sun Sep 28 19:14:04 CEST 2003 root@einstein.lab:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EINSTEIN i386 >Description: -add new item in Synopsis; -correct one command prompt; -tags,images and links adjustment (install --> basics); -adapt two sentence into new context of basics chapter; Some files in the handbook/install directory should be removed: disk-layout.kil example-dir1.dot example-dir2.dot example-dir3.dot example-dir4.dot example-dir5.dot and some files in the doc/share/images/books/handbook/install directory should be moved in a new doc/share/images/books/handbook/basics directory: disk-layout.eps example-dir1.eps example-dir2.eps example-dir3.eps example-dir4.eps example-dir5.eps >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- all.diff begins here --- --- chapter.sgml.old Fri Oct 3 16:34:35 2003 +++ chapter.sgml Fri Oct 3 16:34:15 2003 @@ -44,6 +44,9 @@ The default &os; file system layout. + The &os; disk organization. + + How to mount and unmount file systems. @@ -176,7 +179,7 @@ You should see the MOTD or message of the day followed by a command prompt (a #, - $, or $ character). This + $, or % character). This indicates you have successfully logged into FreeBSD. @@ -894,7 +897,7 @@ - + @@ -914,7 +917,7 @@ - + @@ -942,7 +945,7 @@ - + @@ -968,7 +971,7 @@ - + @@ -994,7 +997,7 @@ - + @@ -1079,8 +1082,8 @@ Filesystems are contained in partitions. This does not have the - same meaning as the earlier usage of the term partition in this - chapter, because of FreeBSD's &unix; heritage. Each partition is + same meaning as the common usage of the term partition (for example, DOS + partition), because of FreeBSD's &unix; heritage. Each partition is identified by a letter from a through to h. Each partition can contain only one filesystem, which means that filesystems are often described by either their @@ -1150,7 +1153,7 @@ Each partition-that-contains-a-filesystem is stored in what FreeBSD calls a slice. Slice is FreeBSD's term - for what were earlier called partitions, and again, this is because of + for what common call partitions, and again, this is because of FreeBSD's &unix; background. Slices are numbered, starting at 1, through to 4. @@ -1183,16 +1186,16 @@ starts with a code that indicates the type of disk, and then a number, indicating which disk it is. Unlike slices, disk numbering starts at 0. Common codes that you will see are listed in - . + . When referring to a partition FreeBSD requires that you also name the slice and disk that contains the partition, and when referring to a slice you should also refer to the disk name. Do this by listing the disk name, s, the slice number, and then the partition letter. Examples are shown in - . + . - shows a conceptual + shows a conceptual model of the disk layout that should help make things clearer. In order to install FreeBSD you must first configure the disk @@ -1200,7 +1203,7 @@ FreeBSD, and then create a filesystem (or swap space) in each partition, and decide where that filesystem will be mounted. - +
Disk Device Codes @@ -1249,7 +1252,7 @@
- + Sample Disk, Slice, and Partition Names @@ -1286,7 +1289,7 @@ - + Conceptual Model of a Disk This diagram shows FreeBSD's view of the first IDE disk attached @@ -1304,7 +1307,7 @@ - + --- Makefile.old Fri Oct 3 16:34:58 2003 +++ Makefile Fri Oct 3 16:34:42 2003 @@ -39,6 +39,12 @@ IMAGES_EN = advanced-networking/isdn-bus.eps IMAGES_EN+= advanced-networking/isdn-twisted-pair.eps IMAGES_EN+= advanced-networking/natd.eps +IMAGES_EN+= basics/disk-layout.eps +IMAGES_EN+= basics/example-dir1.eps +IMAGES_EN+= basics/example-dir2.eps +IMAGES_EN+= basics/example-dir3.eps +IMAGES_EN+= basics/example-dir4.eps +IMAGES_EN+= basics/example-dir5.eps IMAGES_EN+= install/userconfig.scr IMAGES_EN+= install/userconfig2.scr IMAGES_EN+= install/hdwrconf.scr @@ -96,14 +102,7 @@ IMAGES_EN+= install/adduser2.scr IMAGES_EN+= install/adduser3.scr IMAGES_EN+= install/mainexit.scr -IMAGES_EN+= install/disk-layout.eps IMAGES_EN+= install/edit-inetd-conf.scr - -IMAGES_EN+= install/example-dir1.eps -IMAGES_EN+= install/example-dir2.eps -IMAGES_EN+= install/example-dir3.eps -IMAGES_EN+= install/example-dir4.eps -IMAGES_EN+= install/example-dir5.eps IMAGES_EN+= security/ipsec-network.pic IMAGES_EN+= security/ipsec-crypt-pkt.pic IMAGES_EN+= security/ipsec-encap-pkt.pic --- all.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 3 10:03:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEC916A4C1; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB7443FCB; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:03:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h93H3DFY060515; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:03:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h93H3Dbg060511; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:03:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:03:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200310031703.h93H3Dbg060511@freefall.freebsd.org> To: trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/57541: Some suggestions for the Basics chapter of the Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 17:03:14 -0000 Synopsis: Some suggestions for the Basics chapter of the Handbook Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->trhodes Responsible-Changed-By: trhodes Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Oct 3 10:02:24 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: This conflicts with a WIP of mine, take it as to avoid patch application difficulties. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=57541 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 3 11:18:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA1D16A4B3 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8F944005 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:18:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rgwaycott@bellsouth.net) Received: from [68.212.228.188] by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.netESMTP <20031003181837.UOQD20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[68.212.228.188]> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:18:37 -0400 From: "Robert G. Waycott" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065205132.43714.28.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 14:18:53 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Open doc problems/needs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:18:37 -0000 Dear FDP: I have this beautifully lengthy list of currently unassigned doc projects, dated from Monday. How can I find out more on each of these specific problems? I have read a great deal of the Primer, but may have missed something in there that instructs me how to access a formal explanation of each problem so I can grab one up to work on. I appreciate any and all assistance. Thank you. Esse quam videri, Bob Waycott From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 3 11:24:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509E216A4BF for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE6E43F93 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:24:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (acs-24-154-239-120.zoominternet.net [24.154.239.120]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h93IOHvd008738; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:24:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:23:57 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: "Robert G. Waycott" Message-Id: <20031003142357.64fe22c4.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <1065205132.43714.28.camel@localhost> References: <1065205132.43714.28.camel@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Open doc problems/needs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:24:20 -0000 On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 14:18:53 -0400 "Robert G. Waycott" wrote: > Dear FDP: > I have this beautifully lengthy list of currently unassigned doc > projects, dated from Monday. How can I find out more on each of these > specific problems? I have read a great deal of the Primer, but may have > missed something in there that instructs me how to access a formal > explanation of each problem so I can grab one up to work on. I > appreciate any and all assistance. Thank you. Robert, If you would like to help us close some problem reports, we would be extremely grateful. Please point your web browser to the following location and click on the desired task. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?category=docs&responsible=. Reading the articles about problem reports, located at: http://www.FreeBSD.org/docs.html may help you to understand the 'system' at which these reports are worked. Thanks! -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 3 14:34:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122B916A4B3; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8787744001; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:34:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h93LYNFY019322; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:34:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h93LYNZ4019318; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:34:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:34:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Ruslan Ermilov Message-Id: <200310032134.h93LYNZ4019318@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: bin/48210: make -q only does what the manpage says in NonCompat mode. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 21:34:24 -0000 Synopsis: make -q only does what the manpage says in NonCompat mode. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->freebsd-bugs Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Oct 3 14:33:38 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: Fixed category. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=48210 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 3 14:48:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97F516A4B3; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F02643FE3; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:48:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h93LmuFY020561; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:48:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h93LmtFt020557; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:48:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:48:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Ruslan Ermilov Message-Id: <200310032148.h93LmtFt020557@freefall.freebsd.org> To: stijn@win.tue.nl, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50349: make release fails with NO_OPENSSH and ! NOKERBEROS X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 21:48:56 -0000 Synopsis: make release fails with NO_OPENSSH and ! NOKERBEROS State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Fri Oct 3 14:47:38 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Sorry, but we don't currently support building releases without the crypto dists. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=50349 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 3 15:57:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB74616A4BF; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 15:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE4F44088; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 15:56:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h93MuQwt062912; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 00:56:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id h93MuQrs062911; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 00:56:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 00:56:26 +0200 From: Stijn Hoop To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20031003225626.GA60720@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <200310032148.h93LmtFt020557@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200310032148.h93LmtFt020557@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50349: make release fails with NO_OPENSSH and ! NOKERBEROS X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 22:57:31 -0000 --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:48:55PM -0700, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > Synopsis: make release fails with NO_OPENSSH and ! NOKERBEROS >=20 > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > State-Changed-By: ru > State-Changed-When: Fri Oct 3 14:47:38 PDT 2003 > State-Changed-Why:=20 > Sorry, but we don't currently support building releases > without the crypto dists. As I discovered :) 2 things: - why not document the NOKERBEROS knob anyway? - Just out of curiosity's sake, what would be the major obstacle to making = this work (a release without crypto dists)? If you don't know it's ok, but if = you have some pointers I might convince my boss to let me take another look at this (hmm it just hit me that I could also build a release with the crypto present and then just not install it...) --Stijn --=20 This sentence contradicts itself -- no actually it doesn't. -- Hofstadter --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/ff6aY3r/tLQmfWcRAqsOAKCI0BLO9OyyE1ma6Jii8EjFKELcuwCgr/Th HrEB/Q1xukwPIeQx9ov+puU= =/UzZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 3 16:20:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58FF16A4B3 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-2.zoominternet.net (mail-2.zoominternet.net [63.67.120.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75EDC4400B for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:20:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from janec@zoominternet.net) Received: (qmail 21977 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2003 23:20:20 -0000 Received: from acs-24-239-97-170.zoominternet.net (HELO zoominternet.net) ([24.239.97.170]) (envelope-sender ) by mail-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Oct 2003 23:20:20 -0000 Message-ID: <3F7E035D.1040105@zoominternet.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 19:16:45 -0400 From: Jane Cowan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Document not found - http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/porting.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 23:20:25 -0000 http://www.kc2.kc.ru/ports/README.html From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 4 03:00:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0061B16A4BF for ; 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Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.covadmail.net (mx05.covadmail.net [63.65.120.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E409643FE1 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:53:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from strick@covad.net) Received: (covad.net 23980 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2003 09:53:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ice.nodomain) (68.164.194.240) by sun-qmail13 with SMTP; 4 Oct 2003 09:53:29 -0000 Received: from ice.nodomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ice.nodomain (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h949rWNo000720 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:53:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@ice.nodomain) Received: (from dan@localhost) by ice.nodomain (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h949rWDm000719; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200310040953.h949rWDm000719@ice.nodomain> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:53:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Strick To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/57568: errors in FreeBSD Architecture Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dan Strick List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 10:00:31 -0000 >Number: 57568 >Category: docs >Synopsis: errors in FreeBSD Architecture Handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Oct 04 03:00:28 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dan Strick >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD ice 4.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #0: Sun Apr 6 21:47:39 PDT 2003 root@ice:/usr/src/sys/compile/ICE i386 >Description: This is not a report of a bug in a FreeBSD release but a report of errors in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/index.html. All of the examples given in sections 5.3.2 and 5.3.3 on the "Using Sysinit" page are wrong. All of the usages of the SYSINIT macro are missing the "uniquifier" argument and have the "func" argument in its place and the "ident" argument is supposed to be a pointer to something (or NULL). Perhaps the examples are actually for the previous implementation of the Sysinit facility and were not changed after it was last reimplemented. (wild guess) Suggestion (not related to the bug described above): since linker sets are used for things besides the SYSINIT macro, perhaps most of the information in the first paragraph of section 5.2 (Sysinit Operation) should be moved to the explanation of Linker Set in section 5.1 (Terminology) and be made more explicit. It might be nice to explain to the reader that the facility depends on the Gnu C __asm__ feature, the Gnu Assembler .section/.previous directives, the Gnu linker support for those features and on the gensetdefs(8) program. The linker set facility is *very* hard to understand unless you are familiar with all those features and examine a kernel Makefile and the kernel.h/linker_set.h files in the system sources to discover the glue that binds those features together. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 4 03:10:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0259916A4BF for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 03:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8472A43FE1 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94AAOFY032064 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h94AAOTV032063; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200310041010.h94AAOTV032063@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Dan Strick Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF9016A4B3 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 03:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.covadmail.net (mx05.covadmail.net [63.65.120.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1EF243FE5 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 03:04:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from strick@covad.net) Received: (covad.net 29549 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2003 10:04:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ice.nodomain) (68.164.194.240) by sun-qmail09 with SMTP; 4 Oct 2003 10:04:21 -0000 Received: from ice.nodomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ice.nodomain (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h94A4ONo001112 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 03:04:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@ice.nodomain) Received: (from dan@localhost) by ice.nodomain (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h94A4OTt001111; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 03:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200310041004.h94A4OTt001111@ice.nodomain> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 03:04:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Strick To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/57569: error on gensetdefs(8) man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dan Strick List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 10:10:26 -0000 >Number: 57569 >Category: docs >Synopsis: error on gensetdefs(8) man page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Oct 04 03:10:24 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dan Strick >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD ice 4.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #0: Sun Apr 6 21:47:39 PDT 2003 root@ice:/usr/src/sys/compile/ICE i386 >Description: There is an error on the man page for gensetdefs(8). The program does not write the DEFINE_SET lines to stdout. It writes them into a file with a fixed name, setdefs.h. It also creates two other files, setdef0.c and setdef1.c at the same time. The man page also misplaces the file /sys/i386/conf/Makefile.i386. It is actually in /sys/conf. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 4 08:53:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEC616A4B3; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 194-185-53-242.f5.ngi.it (194-185-53-242.f5.ngi.it [194.185.53.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF2543FCB; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:53:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@remotelab.org) Received: from remotelab.org (einstein.lab [192.168.168.2]) h94Fr5Aj044826; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:53:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mark@remotelab.org) Message-ID: <3F7EECE1.90308@remotelab.org> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 17:53:05 +0200 From: Marco Trentini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030723 Thunderbird/0.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Rhodes References: <200310031703.h93H3Dbg060511@freefall.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200310031703.h93H3Dbg060511@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/57541: Some suggestions for the Basics chapter of the Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 15:53:09 -0000 Tom Rhodes wrote: > Synopsis: Some suggestions for the Basics chapter of the Handbook > > Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->trhodes > Responsible-Changed-By: trhodes > Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Oct 3 10:02:24 PDT 2003 > Responsible-Changed-Why: > This conflicts with a WIP of mine, take it as to avoid patch application difficulties. > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=57541 Ok I've got it. So, these patchs are included in your WIP, aren't they?. -- Marco Trentini mark@remotelab.org http://www.remotelab.org/ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 4 12:04:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A764716A4B3; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF69943F3F; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:03:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h94J3bZ4097602 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:03:38 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.9p2/8.12.8/Submit) id h94J3b2n097592; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:03:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:03:37 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Stijn Hoop Message-ID: <20031004190337.GB94900@sunbay.com> References: <200310032148.h93LmtFt020557@freefall.freebsd.org> <20031003225626.GA60720@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="E39vaYmALEf/7YXx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031003225626.GA60720@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: Mark Murray Subject: Re: docs/50349: make release fails with NO_OPENSSH and ! NOKERBEROS X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:04:18 -0000 --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 12:56:26AM +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote: > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:48:55PM -0700, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > Synopsis: make release fails with NO_OPENSSH and ! NOKERBEROS > >=20 > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > > State-Changed-By: ru > > State-Changed-When: Fri Oct 3 14:47:38 PDT 2003 > > State-Changed-Why:=20 > > Sorry, but we don't currently support building releases > > without the crypto dists. >=20 > As I discovered :) >=20 > 2 things: >=20 > - why not document the NOKERBEROS knob anyway? >=20 Good idea. Please submit a patch for make.conf(5). ;) > - Just out of curiosity's sake, what would be the major obstacle to makin= g this > work (a release without crypto dists)? If you don't know it's ok, but i= f you > have some pointers I might convince my boss to let me take another look= at > this (hmm it just hit me that I could also build a release with the cry= pto > present and then just not install it...) >=20 It can be done, by teaching release/Makefile to build world with NOCRYPT and a lot of other hacking that will obfuscate it, but I just don't see much point doing this -- it seems much easier to me to remove the crypto distribution from the release media. Mark, what do you think? Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software Ltd, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/fxmIUkv4P6juNwoRAszBAJ0cxp/lUWILTiscveqxwyoaboSpsACeKl7y odliKJb8Rn4ht4xIzWB9zjg= =9qGm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 4 12:35:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E3716A4B3; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.FreeBSD.org.uk [194.242.157.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2E643FEC; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:35:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.org) Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (Ugrondar@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94JZNB6030504; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:35:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.org) Received: (from Ugrondar@localhost)h94JZNUj030503; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:35:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.org) X-Authentication-Warning: storm.FreeBSD.org.uk: Ugrondar set sender to mark@grondar.org using -f Received: from grondar.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])h94JUCYJ065458; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:30:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.org) From: Mark Murray Message-Id: <200310041930.h94JUCYJ065458@grimreaper.grondar.org> To: Ruslan Ermilov In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 04 Oct 2003 22:03:37 +0300." <20031004190337.GB94900@sunbay.com> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 20:30:12 +0100 Sender: mark@grondar.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,FROM_NO_LOWER,IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50349: make release fails with NO_OPENSSH and ! NOKERBEROS X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:35:25 -0000 Ruslan Ermilov writes: > It can be done, by teaching release/Makefile to build world with NOCRYPT > and a lot of other hacking that will obfuscate it, but I just don't see > much point doing this -- it seems much easier to me to remove the crypto > distribution from the release media. Yeah. This is about right. There have been may years' worth of crypto-insanity in FreeBSD, and we are trying to remove it, not entrench it. The crypto stuff in nicely separated out, and I wouldn't mind seeing further separation (dev tools, LPR, sendmail, etc) done as separately installable components, similar to the crypto install. release/* is already a horrendous hack, and to make it take into account build options would make it _horrible_. > Mark, what do you think? I think we need to aim for further simplification :-) If you don't like crypto, 'rm -rf' is your friend. M -- Mark Murray iumop ap!sdn w,I idlaH From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 4 21:14:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AC816A4B3; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU [128.205.32.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493D043FB1; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:14:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (kensmith@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h954EXus009775; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 00:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kensmith@localhost) by electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id h954EWUH009774; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 00:14:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 00:14:32 -0400 From: Ken Smith To: Mark Murray Message-ID: <20031005041432.GC9334@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> References: <20031004190337.GB94900@sunbay.com> <200310041930.h94JUCYJ065458@grimreaper.grondar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200310041930.h94JUCYJ065458@grimreaper.grondar.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: docs/50349: make release fails with NO_OPENSSH and ! NOKERBEROS X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 04:14:37 -0000 On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 08:30:12PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: > The crypto stuff in nicely separated out, and I wouldn't mind seeing > further separation (dev tools, LPR, sendmail, etc) done as separately > installable components, similar to the crypto install. A current interest is having some sort of binary updates system in place. Everyone I talk to about the various issues, projects in motion, etc. say this further separation of stuff would help that effort a LOT. -- Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel |