From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 2 19:51:12 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D8737B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:51:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.otherwhen.com (www.otherwhen.com [205.229.168.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB8143F85 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:51:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mavery@mail.otherwhen.com) Received: from speedy (unknown [192.168.2.131]) by mail.otherwhen.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E467C0F4 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 20:51:08 -0700 (MST) From: "Mike Avery" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 20:51:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: FAQ? Starter guide? Message-ID: <3E626EBB.26953.78C64C6@localhost> In-reply-to: <3E567D29.9456A38E@colba.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.1 beta 15) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've started thinking about starting an ISP in this small mountain village.... being a FreeBSD user, I'd rather set it up with FreeBSD. I've been looking for FAQ's, Howto's, or other hints for the bewildered.... so far, no joy. I've been a network geek for a long time, but on LANs and WANs with the site to site infrastructure already in place... and no marketing to worry about. I was wondering if anyone could recommend resources to get me pointed in the right direction. Thanks, Mike -- Mike Avery MAvery@mail.otherwhen.com ICQ: 16241692 AOL IM:MAvery81230 Phone: 970-642-0280 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * Once seen on road signs all over the United States: Bargain hunters Gather 'round Fifty cents Buys Half a pound Burma-Shave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 2 19:56: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BBC37B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:56:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from nic-naa.net (216-220-241-233.midmaine.com [216.220.241.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B54543F3F for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:56:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Received: from nic-naa.net (localhost.nic-naa.net [127.0.0.1]) by nic-naa.net (8.12.7/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h233sMtY077571; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 22:54:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Message-Id: <200303030354.h233sMtY077571@nic-naa.net> To: "Mike Avery" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, brunner@nic-naa.net Subject: Re: FAQ? Starter guide? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 02 Mar 2003 20:51:07 MST." <3E626EBB.26953.78C64C6@localhost> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 22:54:22 -0500 From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike, I'm doing just this. I'm in Portland, Maine. Where are you? Eric To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 2 20: 6:55 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA75337B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 20:06:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from plum.cyber.com.au (plum.cyber.com.au [203.7.155.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0550543FB1 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 20:06:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mattw@cyber.com.au) Received: from vanilla.office.cyber.com.au (vanilla.office.cyber.com.au [192.168.155.226]) by plum.cyber.com.au (8.8.6/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA06296 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:06:51 +1100 (EST) Received: from cyber.com.au (dhcp68.office.cyber.com.au [192.168.155.168]) by vanilla.office.cyber.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2995E57BADC for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:06:50 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:07:42 +1100 Subject: Re: FAQ? Starter guide? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) From: Matthew Wallis To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <3E626EBB.26953.78C64C6@localhost> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, Mar 3, 2003, at 14:51 Australia/Melbourne, Mike Avery wrote: > I've started thinking about starting an ISP in this small mountain > village.... > > being a FreeBSD user, I'd rather set it up with FreeBSD. I've been > looking for FAQ's, > Howto's, or other hints for the bewildered.... so far, no joy. I've > been a network geek for > a long time, but on LANs and WANs with the site to site infrastructure > already in place... > and no marketing to worry about. > > I was wondering if anyone could recommend resources to get me pointed > in the right > direction. > Sounds more like an ISP question, than a FreeBSD-ISP question. You might want to hunt around for a local ISP group. In Aust we have a couple of groups, one called aussie-isp, that I'm on. So long as you're not taking away their business, someone's usually willing to help. I know there's some major ISP lists in the States, I just can't think of them right this second. Matt. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 2 22:48:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8E637B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 22:48:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.otherwhen.com (www.sourdoughhome.com [205.229.168.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D629A43FCB for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 22:48:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mavery@mail.otherwhen.com) Received: from speedy (unknown [192.168.2.131]) by mail.otherwhen.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3703E7C0E1; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 22:42:48 -0700 (MST) From: "Mike Avery" To: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, brunner@nic-naa.net Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 22:42:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: FAQ? Starter guide? Message-ID: <3E6288E7.2496.7F2A869@localhost> In-reply-to: <200303030354.h233sMtY077571@nic-naa.net> References: Your message of "Sun, 02 Mar 2003 20:51:07 MST." <3E626EBB.26953.78C64C6@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.1 beta 15) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2 Mar 2003 at 22:54, Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine wrote: > I'm doing just this. I'm in Portland, Maine. Where are you? Gunnison, Colorado. While we have two ISP's in town, there's lots of bitching about them... I smell an oppportunity. Probably an opportunity to lose my shirt. Mike -- Mike Avery MAvery@mail.otherwhen.com ICQ: 16241692 AOL IM:MAvery81230 Phone: 970-642-0280 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: You can't have everything. Where would you put it? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 3 5: 4:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DD137B405 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 05:04:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net (web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net [206.47.131.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA00B43F3F for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 05:04:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@hawk-systems.com) Received: (qmail 22977 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 13:04:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1) (24.157.103.51) by web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 13:04:19 -0000 From: "Dave [Hawk-Systems]" To: Cc: "Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine" , "Mike Avery" Subject: RE: FAQ? Starter guide? Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:04:18 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200303030354.h233sMtY077571@nic-naa.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I've started thinking about starting an ISP in this small mountain village.... > >being a FreeBSD user, I'd rather set it up with FreeBSD. I've been >looking for FAQ's, >Howto's, or other hints for the bewildered.... so far, no joy. I've >been a network geek for >a long time, but on LANs and WANs with the site to site infrastructure >already in place... >and no marketing to worry about. > >I was wondering if anyone could recommend resources to get me pointed >in the right >direction. As far as FreeBSD is concerned, Matt Simerson has a good mail toaster (google will turn it up) which is based on FreeBSD, other resources just take some googling to dig them up. I am not sure that you will find a complete resource simply because FreeBSD would only encompas the OS portion of your solution. makes this thread a little OT. While we are plastering this list with a post though, here are some other resources; ISP Survival Guide - Wiley - ISBN 0-471-31499-4 - getting dated, but real good information in there to give you a solid foundation and help you avoid simple mistakes. ISP Planet - www.isp-planet.com - wide range of resources, lists, documents, reports, etc... will occupy alot of your time. Good up to date information, along with hostorical information. One of the big questions is are you going facilities(hardware) based or virtual (buying from someone). If hardware based, ask around (lists, messageboards, etc...) for used equipment before buying new (picked up a 35k Cisco dial chasis at about 10% list price only a few months ago). If going virtual, ask around for others experiences. Finally, kiss your lifestyle goodbye for a while. Starting up can be taxing on your pocketbook, you may be better off buying one of the other two. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 3 9:34:22 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFAB37B405 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:34:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from sinamail.com (61-221-29-145.HINET-IP.hinet.net [61.221.29.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D2C43FAF for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:34:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from suppergeorge@sinamail.com) From: star@yahoo.com.tw To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?prO+97d8p0HEQLdOpWi5wbjVttw/Pw==?= Reply-To: suppergeorge@sinamail.com Date: 04 Mar 2003 01:39:19 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030303173412.56D2C43FAF@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 為什麼有人會比你成功10倍
主旨: 這或許是您正在尋找的機會喔
這或許是您正在找的機會哦！
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為什麼有人會比你成功10倍，收入多100倍、甚至多1000倍，難道他有比你多聰明這麼多嗎？
答案肯定不是的！
想一想！那些收入比我們高很多，生活比我們好很多的人！
他們到底做了什麼是我們所不知道的事？
而我們到底做錯了什麼、又錯過了什麼？
想不想知道人家怎麼做倒的！
你相信「時間＝金錢」、還是「時間＞金錢」

舉例：

我們一天工作8小時，一年工作365天，一輩子工作30年！那我們一輩子的總工作時數？
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看起來好像很多，看清楚！一年工作365天，要工作30年！而且不吃不喝！
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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 3 20:41: 5 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF1E37B401 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 20:41:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from 212.saignon.net (212.saignon.net [63.210.176.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410AA43FA3 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 20:41:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tony@saign.com) Received: (qmail 6346 invoked by uid 89); 4 Mar 2003 04:40:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO p3.saignon.net) (127.0.0.1) by 127.0.0.1 with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 04:40:02 -0000 Received: (from vpopmail@localhost) by p3.saignon.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h244e13T006344; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 20:40:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200303040440.h244e13T006344@p3.saignon.net> X-Authentication-Warning: p3.saignon.net: vpopmail set sender to tony@saign.com using -f From: "tony" To: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: unable to update to 4.x from 4.5 STABLE Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 20:40:01 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Been running a server for long long time updated from 4.3 to 4.5 and after some debate decided to update again this evening. Unfortunately I did not save the cvsup log, since I've never had problems in the past (my bad!) *Last update >> FreeBSD opensrs.saignon.net 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #0: Wed Mar 27 13:45:30 PST 2002 root@opensrs.saignon.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/stable4_ipfw i386 Tried a make buildworld, and getting the below errors; Anyone have any quick thoughts on what might be wrong?? echo colldef: /usr/lib/libc.a /usr/lib/libl.a >> .depend cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/usr.bin/colldef -I/usr/src/usr.bin/colldef/../../lib/libc/locale -DCOLLATE_DEBUG -DYY_NO_UNPUT -D__FBSDID=__RCSID -c parse.c In file included from /usr/src/usr.bin/colldef/parse.y:32: /usr/include/arpa/inet.h:89: warning: parameter has incomplete type /usr/include/arpa/inet.h:92: warning: parameter has incomplete type /usr/include/arpa/inet.h:96: warning: parameter has incomplete type cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/usr.bin/colldef -I/usr/src/usr.bin/colldef/../../lib/libc/locale -DCOLLATE_DEBUG -DYY_NO_UNPUT -D__FBSDID=__RCSID -c scan.c In file included from /usr/src/usr.bin/colldef/scan.l:40: /usr/src/usr.bin/colldef/y.tab.h:15: `STR_LEN' undeclared here (not in a function) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin/colldef. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 4 21:45:46 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B2837B401 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:45:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F2143F3F for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:45:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com (Exim 4.12 #1 (FreeBSD)) protocol: local id 18qRhf-000F9C-00 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 08:44:31 +0300 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:44:31 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: FBSD-ISP Subject: CPAN Troubles Message-ID: <20030305054431.GA52093@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-ISP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message,where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Fortune: Flying saucers on occasion Show themselves to human eyes. Aliens fume, put off invasion While they brand these tales as lies. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-RC i386 X-Best-Window-Manager: Blackbox X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.1i (2002-05-02) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 8:38AM up 1 day, 15 hrs, 4 users, load averages: 2.34, 2.13, 1.90 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello everyone, I am having some strange problems with CPAN, especially the Digest::MD5 module. It failed me when I attempted to install perl5.8.0 from the ports. I decided to install 5.6.1 instead, but still this module is messaing my life up. It's failure is giving me enough agony for obvious reasons - other modules are dependent on it: longonot# cd Digest-MD5-2.23 longonot# perl Makefile.PL Testing alignment requirements for U32... no restrictions Writing Makefile for Digest::MD5 longonot# make cc -c -DAPPLLIB_EXP="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/BSDPAN" -fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/include -O -pipe -DVERSION=\"2.23\" -DXS_VERSION=\"2.23\" -DPIC -fPIC -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/CORE MD5.c MD5.xs: In function `XS_Digest__MD5_md5': MD5.xs:661: `dowarn' undeclared (first use in this function) MD5.xs:661: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once MD5.xs:661: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/wash/Digest-MD5-2.23. longonot# -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington "The box said 'Requires Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com Windows 95, NT, or better,' Tel: +254 2 313985-9 +254 2 313922 so I installed FreeBSD." GSM: +254 72 743223 +254 733 744121 This sig is McQ! :-) %DCL-E-MEMBAD, bad memory -SYSTEM-F-VMSPDGERS, pudding between the ears To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 5 13:21:40 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E120D37B401 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 13:21:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from coloradosurf.com (12-252-207-129.client.attbi.com [12.252.207.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E095043F3F for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 13:21:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@coloradosurf.com) Received: from coloradosurf.com (localhost.coloradosurf.com [127.0.0.1]) by coloradosurf.com (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h25LLXYN017110 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:21:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from mike@coloradosurf.com) From: "Poppa Mike" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: pdflib and fonts w/ php from ports Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:21:33 -0700 Message-Id: <20030305210523.M32192@coloradosurf.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 1.90 20030212 X-OriginatingIP: 64.6.172.35 (mike@coloradosurf.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Sorry if this is a bit OT. I installed mod_php4 from ports and chose the pdflib (among others) support. It installed pdflib 4.0.3. I'm trying to play around with the pdf generation but am getting errors. Fatal error: PDFlib error: Outline data for font 'Helvetica' not found in myfile.php on line 20 The offending line: $font = pdf_findfont($pdf, "Helvetica", "builtin", 1); (I also got this error with "host") I created a "generic" pdflib.upr file (from the pdflib-manual) but it doesn't seem to be finding the fonts. Well, I can't either ;). I did notice they were in the work directory of the port (/usr/ports/print/pdflib/work/pdflib-4.0.3/fonts/), but `locate afm` yielded nothing (the locate db has not updated to find the ones I just extracted). Am I missing something very basic (like what fonts to install, where, etc.) or should the port have installed these somewhere? Someone please knock me upside the head with a clue-stick. TIA, mike - please Cc: me as I'm not subscribed to -isp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 5 19: 5:47 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2758A37B401 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:05:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [64.49.215.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DB443FBD for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:05:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from excalibur@hub.org) Received: from excalibur.hub.org (u231n71.eastlink.ca [24.222.231.71]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90ED61B5AF0 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:05:32 -0400 (AST) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030305230242.00a18200@mail.hub.org> X-Sender: excalibur@hub.org@mail.hub.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 23:05:12 -0400 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Chris Bowlby Subject: multiple SSL key's on one IP several Vhosts... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, Googling for a result of an issue where I've got more then one SSL key I want to enable on a site (one that is certified and one that is self signed) I ran across and issue where Multiple key's appear to not work on the same IP, is this still the case? even after two years? Who's bright Idea was it to tie the SSL key to the IP address and domain, and not just the domain? If anyone has a work around for the this, it would be very useful to know (other then more then one IP assigned to the VH, not an option as a limitation of jails...) thanks in advance.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 5 19:32:45 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D9A37B401 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:32:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from 212.saignon.net (212.saignon.net [63.210.176.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B40143FA3 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:32:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tony@saign.com) Received: (qmail 21212 invoked by uid 89); 6 Mar 2003 03:31:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO p3.saignon.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 03:31:37 -0000 Received: (from vpopmail@localhost) by p3.saignon.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h263VajI021210; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:31:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200303060331.h263VajI021210@p3.saignon.net> X-Authentication-Warning: p3.saignon.net: vpopmail set sender to tony@saign.com using -f From: "tony" To: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: IP addresses changing... Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:31:36 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just received an email from my ISP that all my IP addresses are changing! Any hints from anyone on how to keep the downtime minimal, and update all my DNS records so I don't fall off the face of the Internet! I have 5 days.... Thanks, -tony To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 5 19:33: 0 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC2F37B401 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:32:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F206E43F3F for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:32:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fearow@attbi.com) Received: from god.woofcat.com (12-251-110-17.client.attbi.com[12.251.110.17]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52) with SMTP id <2003030603325805200ptcihe>; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 03:32:58 +0000 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:32:50 -0600 From: Anti To: Chris Bowlby Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multiple SSL key's on one IP several Vhosts... Message-Id: <20030305213250.56a376fe.fearow@attbi.com> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030305230242.00a18200@mail.hub.org> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030305230242.00a18200@mail.hub.org> Organization: Woofcat X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 05 Mar 2003 23:05:12 -0400 Chris Bowlby wrote: > Hi All, > > Googling for a result of an issue where I've got more then one SSL key I > want to enable on a site (one that is certified and one that is self > signed) I ran across and issue where Multiple key's appear to not work on > the same IP, is this still the case? even after two years? Who's bright > Idea was it to tie the SSL key to the IP address and domain, and not just > the domain? > > If anyone has a work around for the this, it would be very useful to know > (other then more then one IP assigned to the VH, not an option as a > limitation of jails...) > > thanks in advance.. the only way to do multiple certs on a single ip is to use a different port for each one... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 5 19:40:29 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5C537B401 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:40:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.tcworks.net (mail.tcworks.net [216.61.218.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287F243F85 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:40:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Received: from tcworks.net (stp.tcworks.net [216.61.218.6]) by mail.tcworks.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h263bQ5A056167; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:37:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3E66C3A8.8104D66A@tcworks.net> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:42:32 -0600 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tony Cc: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: IP addresses changing... References: <200303060331.h263VajI021210@p3.saignon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.1(snapshot 20020920) (mail.tcworks.net) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org tony wrote: > > I just received an email from my ISP that all my IP addresses are changing! > > Any hints from anyone on how to keep the downtime minimal, and update all my > DNS records so I don't fall off the face of the Internet! > > I have 5 days.... > How many DNS records are you needing to change? -- Chris o----< ccook@tcworks.net >------------------------------------o |Chris Cook - Admin |TCWORKS.NET - http://www.tcworks.net | |The Computer Works ISP |FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org | o-------------------------------------------------------------o To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 5 20:17:25 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C05237B401 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:17:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from cuzco.comnet.co.nz (Cuzco.ComNet.CO.NZ [131.203.248.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E289A43FAF for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:17:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from d.jones@comnet.co.nz) Received: from xyz.comnet.co.nz (atmos.comnet.co.nz [131.203.10.32]) by cuzco.comnet.co.nz (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h264HKT36175 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:17:20 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: Re: [freebsd] IP addresses changing... From: Donovan Jones To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200303060331.h263VajI021210@p3.saignon.net> References: <200303060331.h263VajI021210@p3.saignon.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8-3mdk Date: 06 Mar 2003 17:11:38 +1300 Message-Id: <1046923904.23629.33.camel@atmos> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:31, tony wrote: > > I just received an email from my ISP that all my IP addresses are changing! > > Any hints from anyone on how to keep the downtime minimal, and update all my > DNS records so I don't fall off the face of the Internet! > > I have 5 days.... change the ttls (time to live) for the mission critical records. The ttls affect how long a non authoratitive server will cache the record for, defaults are often 86400 secs or 1 day you should change these to something low like 300secs (5min) in bind8 the way to do this in a zone file is eg for a MX and a A record: 300 IN MX 10 mailhost.xyz.com. ftp 300 IN A 11.67.16.11 alternatively you could change the default for all records in the zone by altering the first line: $TTL 86400 to some lower value. It should be a similar process with bind9 / other dns servers. dont forget to ndc reload; tail /var/log/messages | grep named if youre trouble shooting and want to check is some other server has cached an old record try this command host -v www.your-domain.com ns1.some-other-isp.com the ANSWER SECTION will contain the record and TTL value for email do host -v -t your-domain.com ns1.some-other-isp.com for the mx records ttls hope that helps Don Jones To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 5 20:24:42 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8DE37B401 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:24:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from blue.centerone.com (blue.centerone.com [204.133.183.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B850543F75 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:24:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rf-list@centerone.com) Received: from DELIVERANCE-XP.centerone.com (ppp-168-253-14-164.den1.ip.ricochet.net [168.253.14.164]) by blue.centerone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA06158; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:35:25 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20030305211553.0125dba0@mail.centerone.com> X-Sender: rf-list@mail.centerone.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:19:05 -0700 To: "tony" , "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" From: Ralph Forsythe Subject: Re: IP addresses changing... In-Reply-To: <200303060331.h263VajI021210@p3.saignon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 1. Drop your DNS ttl's to about an hour. Go do this right now so it has time to refresh on the net. 2. When you switch, change the DNS and wait. 3. If you need to switch the IP's of your nameservers as well, I hope you have one on another network or you may be looking at some downtime while the root servers all ponder it. 4. Go kick someone at your ISP in the jimmy for giving you 5 days to plan it out. At 07:31 PM 3/5/2003 -0800, tony wrote: >I just received an email from my ISP that all my IP addresses are changing! >Any hints from anyone on how to keep the downtime minimal, and update all >my DNS records so I don't fall off the face of the Internet! >I have 5 days.... >Thanks, >-tony > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 5 20:31:52 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52AC937B401 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:31:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from pendragon.tacni.net (radius.tacni.net [64.247.218.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D4B143FCB for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:31:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom.oneil@tacni.com) Received: (qmail 46362 invoked by uid 85); 6 Mar 2003 04:31:48 -0000 Received: from tom.oneil@tacni.com by arthur.tacni.net by uid 81 with qmail-scanner-1.11 (uvscan: v4.1.60/v4200. . Clear:. Processed in 0.917001 secs); 06 Mar 2003 04:31:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tacni.com) (66.190.75.60) by pendragon.tacni.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 04:31:47 -0000 Message-ID: <3E66CF53.4000702@tacni.com> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 22:32:19 -0600 From: Tom ONeil User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Cook , "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: IP addresses changing... References: <200303060331.h263VajI021210@p3.saignon.net> <3E66C3A8.8104D66A@tcworks.net> In-Reply-To: <3E66C3A8.8104D66A@tcworks.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris Cook wrote: > tony wrote: > >>I just received an email from my ISP that all my IP addresses are changing! >> >>Any hints from anyone on how to keep the downtime minimal, and update all my >>DNS records so I don't fall off the face of the Internet! >> >>I have 5 days.... >> > > > How many DNS records are you needing to change? > > > Move your nameservers off that network. Now. Drop a TTL's to 15 min or so. Change IP's after the routes are up (you can ping the world from there.) Change ISP's> 5 days. Sheesh Tom ONeil ( also colocateusa.net) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 5 20:35:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5087437B405 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:35:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ruminary.org (chiku.ruminary.org [216.218.185.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDF143F3F for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:35:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from clark@ruminary.org) Received: by ruminary.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4631722E19; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:35:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:35:47 -0800 From: clark shishido To: tony Cc: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: IP addresses changing... Message-ID: <20030306043547.GA39370@ruminary.org> References: <200303060331.h263VajI021210@p3.saignon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200303060331.h263VajI021210@p3.saignon.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 07:31:36PM -0800, tony wrote: > > I have 5 days.... > lower the TTL on all your DNS records now. do you have to change your authoritative name servers? if yes, ask your ISP if you can set up new name servers beforehand. assign an alias and static routes to all your existing servers for the new network. Keep your existing configs and add on changes for the new IPs. If you're in more than one broadcast domain, convert one of your boxes into a router or create one. The strategy is to keep things running as they are, and cut over to new IPs afterwards. It's easier to add access than try and figure out why something is not working (hard-coded IP access lists). After the ISP's cutover is complete then start removing the old IPs and rebooting boxes so things come up cleanly in the new config (new IP and old IP aliased). If you have a lot of hard-coded networks, keep aliases and/or staticly route the old network so all your machines can still find each other. Final steps, remove aliases and static routes. This way critical services like http & smtp will migrate immediately, and you can get to graphing/monitoring/security later. --clark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 5 21:30:22 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0283337B401 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:30:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from net2.dinoex.sub.org (net2.dinoex.de [212.184.201.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BD043FA3 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:30:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) Received: from net2.dinoex.sub.org (dinoex@net2.dinoex.de [212.184.201.182]) by net2.dinoex.sub.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h265U6mo028904; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 06:30:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: net2.dinoex.sub.org: Host dinoex@net2.dinoex.de [212.184.201.182] claimed to be net2.dinoex.sub.org Received: from gate.dinoex.sub.org (dinoex@localhost) by net2.dinoex.sub.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with BSMTP id h265U45K028890; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 06:30:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, tony@saign.com (tony) Message-ID: From: dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org (Dirk Meyer) Organization: privat Subject: Re: IP addresses changing... Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 06:28:19 +0100 X-Mailer: Dinoex 1.79 References: <200303060331.h263VajI021210@p3.saignon.net> X-Gateway: ZCONNECT gate.dinoex.sub.org [UNIX/Connect 0.94] X-Accept-Language: de,en X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 16 EC 0A D3 3A 4F 28 8A 8A 47 93 F1 CF 2F 12 X-Noad: Please don't send me ad's by mail. I'm bored by this type of mail. X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 2001 by Dirk Meyer -- All rights reserved. X-Note: sending SPAM is a violation of both german and US law and will at least trigger a complaint at your provider's postmaster. X-PGP-Key-Avail: mailto:pgp-public-keys@keys.de.pgp.net Subject:GET 0x331CDA5D X-No-Archive: yes X-ZC-VIA: 20030306000000W+1@dinoex.sub.org Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org tony wrote: > I just received an email from my ISP that all my IP addresses are changing! > Any hints from anyone on how to keep the downtime minimal, and update all my > DNS records so I don't fall off the face of the Internet! 1) make sure your DNS servers stay reachable. in doubt use entries for old an new as nameservers. IN NS new-dns-server.do.amin. IN NS old-dns-server.do.amin. IN NS backup.do.main. 2) limit the time the entries given out by your dns eg. 100 seconds www 100 IN A 10.10.10.10 3) 3 hours before the change: limit the time the entries given out by your dns www 1 IN A 10.10.10.10 4) you move ... www 1 IN A 10.20.20.20 5) you can now swtichback to 3 if something is wrong. if everything is fine .... make teh entries full valid again: www IN A 10.20.20.20 > I have 5 days.... already short, some servers will cache your entries for a week. but the time to life in DNS will still help 90% of your customers. kind regards Dirk - Dirk Meyer, Im Grund 4, 34317 Habichtswald, Germany - [dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org],[dirk.meyer@guug.de],[dinoex@FreeBSD.org] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 5 21:40: 1 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644FA37B401 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from 212.saignon.net (212.saignon.net [63.210.176.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31B343F85 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:39:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tony@saign.com) Received: (qmail 21888 invoked by uid 89); 6 Mar 2003 05:38:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO p3.saignon.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 05:38:53 -0000 Received: (from vpopmail@localhost) by p3.saignon.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h265crTR021886; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:38:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200303060538.h265crTR021886@p3.saignon.net> X-Authentication-Warning: p3.saignon.net: vpopmail set sender to tony@saign.com using -f References: <200303060331.h263VajI021210@p3.saignon.net> In-Reply-To: From: "tony" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IP addresses changing... Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:38:53 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org THANKS everyone for the tips! I'd like to go kick them right in the ass, but since I'm only paying $150 for a T1, maybe not a good idea?? :) Still pisses me off they gave me such short notice though. I still expect a 'bit of down time, just hoping it will be minimal. Thanks again, -Tony To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 5 22:32:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44C237B401 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:32:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from doc.metva.com.au (c16477.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au [210.49.152.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FAD43FB1 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:32:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from enno@doc.metva.com.au) Received: by doc.metva.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1003) id A1484D78CAF; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:32:08 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:32:08 +1100 From: Enno Davids To: Chris Bowlby Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: multiple SSL key's on one IP several Vhosts... Message-ID: <20030306063208.GR589@doc.metva.com.au> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030305230242.00a18200@mail.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030305230242.00a18200@mail.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 11:05:12PM -0400, Chris Bowlby wrote: |Hi All, | | Googling for a result of an issue where I've got more then one SSL key I |want to enable on a site (one that is certified and one that is self |signed) I ran across and issue where Multiple key's appear to not work on |the same IP, is this still the case? even after two years? Who's bright |Idea was it to tie the SSL key to the IP address and domain, and not just |the domain? Actually its a chicken and egg problem. Namely as the cert is in the middle of the public key crypto exchange of session keys (vastly oversimplified) you have to be able to decide which cert to use to decrypt the incoming SSL without being able to read the host header in the request because its part of the encyprted payload. As the host header determines which VH is to answer and hence which cert it has to use this makes things 'hard'. So... one cert per VH and the VH has to be on a unique IP address/port pair. Life's like that. Enno. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 6 4:54:30 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26D437B401 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 04:54:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.transactionware.com (mail.transactionware.com [203.14.245.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCCFA43FAF for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 04:54:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from janm@transactionware.com) Received: (qmail 94288 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 12:54:45 -0000 Received: from new.transactionware.com (192.168.1.55) by dm.transactionware.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 12:54:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 61311 invoked by uid 1006); 6 Mar 2003 12:53:36 -0000 Received: from janm@transactionware.com by new.transactionware.com by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.10 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4249. . Clear:0. Processed in 0.375963 secs); 06 Mar 2003 12:53:36 -0000 Received: from mosm1.transactionware.com (HELO mosm1) (192.168.1.130) by new.transactionware.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 12:53:35 -0000 From: "Jan Mikkelsen" To: "'Chris Bowlby'" , Subject: RE: multiple SSL key's on one IP several Vhosts... Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 23:51:51 +1100 Organization: Transactionware Message-ID: <001801c2e3df$28a02030$fc5807ca@mosm1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030305230242.00a18200@mail.hub.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As someone else wrote, the problem is that the SSL handshake happens before the HTTP host header is sent by the client saying what it is after. Because the server DNS name is embedded in the certificate used in the SSL handshake you are forced into a one to one mapping of virtual hosts and IP addresses. There is a solution: Include the host name in the initial SSL (now TLS) handshake so the server can choose the right certificate to use during the TLS negotiation. There is a standards track RFC covering this (along with a generalised extension mechanism and other stuff) in the RFC editor's queue. This means that the limitation will be less of an issue once some portion of the browser population implements the RFC, which is probably not the timeframe you are after. Regards, Jan Mikkelsen > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Chris Bowlby > Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2003 2:05 PM > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: multiple SSL key's on one IP several Vhosts... > > > Hi All, > > Googling for a result of an issue where I've got more then > one SSL key I > want to enable on a site (one that is certified and one that is self > signed) I ran across and issue where Multiple key's appear to > not work on > the same IP, is this still the case? even after two years? > Who's bright > Idea was it to tie the SSL key to the IP address and domain, > and not just > the domain? > > If anyone has a work around for the this, it would be very > useful to know > (other then more then one IP assigned to the VH, not an option as a > limitation of jails...) > > thanks in advance.. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 6 6:17:49 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B6F37B401 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 06:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from vineyard.net (k1.vineyard.net [204.17.195.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7C343FAF for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 06:17:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ericx@vineyard.net) Received: from fortiva (fortiva.vineyard.net [204.17.195.104]) by vineyard.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 52AF39166C; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:17:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <020d01c2e3eb$180fbee0$68c311cc@vineyard.net> From: "Eric W. Bates" To: "tony" , References: <200303060331.h263VajI021210@p3.saignon.net> Subject: Re: IP addresses changing... Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:17:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In addition to all the other good suggestions: Consider setting up a NAT either on your border routers or on some sort of internal gate as a catch all for any IP you forget (or don't have time) to update right away. ----- Original Message ----- From: "tony" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: IP addresses changing... > > I just received an email from my ISP that all my IP addresses are changing! > > Any hints from anyone on how to keep the downtime minimal, and update all my > DNS records so I don't fall off the face of the Internet! > > I have 5 days.... > > Thanks, > > -tony > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 6 15:29:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB98A37B401 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:29:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f109.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.109]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDEF43F85 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:29:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jsitke6@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:29:22 -0800 Received: from 66.218.33.3 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 23:29:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [66.218.33.3] From: "Julian List" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 15:29:19 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2003 23:29:22.0743 (UTC) FILETIME=[37EDD470:01C2E438] Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 6 15:36:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C190A37B401 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:36:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from neofast.net (neofast.net [65.103.151.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E58543F75 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:36:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd-techlists@neofast.net) Received: from win98 (64-35-128-112.gohighspeed.com [64.35.128.112]) by neofast.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h26Na8511814 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:36:08 -0800 Message-ID: <006201c2e438$f36fff20$0702a8c0@win98> From: "Mark Koskenmaki" To: References: Subject: testing Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:34:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ig ah nor please :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 6 15:42:48 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F0A37B401 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:42:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f111.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5FC543FCB for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:42:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jsitke6@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:42:44 -0800 Received: from 66.218.33.3 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 23:42:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [66.218.33.3] From: "Julian List" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mod_jk2 + Tomcat/4.1.18 404 error Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 15:42:44 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2003 23:42:44.0850 (UTC) FILETIME=[1605A520:01C2E43A] Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I ALMOST have mod_jk2 with Apache 1.3.27 working, so if you know the answer to this one, it would really help! Whenever I request a jsp page it invokes the connector, but I always get a Tomcat/4.1.18 404 error. I am running virtual hosts, part of my server.xml looks like this: It seems it could be mapping to the root Tomcat/4.1.18 server, because whenever I request /examples it works. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Julian _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 6 16: 6:59 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503F937B401 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 16:06:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from neofast.net (neofast.net [65.103.151.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14B243FBD for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 16:06:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd-techlists@neofast.net) Received: from win98 (64-35-128-112.gohighspeed.com [64.35.128.112]) by neofast.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h2706u523351 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 16:06:56 -0800 Message-ID: <007501c2e43d$40c84580$0702a8c0@win98> From: "Mark Koskenmaki" To: References: <006201c2e438$f36fff20$0702a8c0@win98> Subject: PPPoE experience Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 16:05:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If anyone on the list has used FreeBSD in a PPPoE environment, with at least 50 clients in a network environment, I'd like to know what kind of hardware it took to perform well - RAM, CPU, ETC. What did you have, and what were your loads like? Thanks NEOFAST.NET North East Oregon FAST Net mark(at)neofast.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 7 18:37:47 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0D037B401 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 18:37:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [64.49.215.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630A743F75 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 18:37:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from excalibur@hub.org) Received: from excalibur.hub.org (u231n71.eastlink.ca [24.222.231.71]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D1D94BA36; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 22:37:39 -0400 (AST) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030307223533.00a05270@mail.hub.org> X-Sender: excalibur@hub.org@mail.hub.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 22:37:59 -0400 To: "Jan Mikkelsen" , From: Chris Bowlby Subject: RE: multiple SSL key's on one IP several Vhosts... In-Reply-To: <001801c2e3df$28a02030$fc5807ca@mosm1> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030305230242.00a18200@mail.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:51 PM 3/6/03 +1100, Jan Mikkelsen wrote: >As someone else wrote, the problem is that the SSL handshake happens >before the HTTP host header is sent by the client saying what it is >after. Because the server DNS name is embedded in the certificate used >in the SSL handshake you are forced into a one to one mapping of virtual >hosts and IP addresses. > >There is a solution: Include the host name in the initial SSL (now TLS) >handshake so the server can choose the right certificate to use during >the TLS negotiation. There is a standards track RFC covering this >(along with a generalised extension mechanism and other stuff) in the >RFC editor's queue. This means that the limitation will be less of an >issue once some portion of the browser population implements the RFC, >which is probably not the timeframe you are after. Hi Jan, Thanks for the update, we are kind of in a hurry for it, but will have to wait until it's looped through the system I guess...thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 8 11:50: 2 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E93337B401 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 11:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.citytel.net (gumby.rupert.net [204.244.98.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B215E43FAF for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 11:49:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kwoody@citytel.net) Received: from pop.citytel.net (pop.citytel.net [204.244.98.50]) by gumby.citytel.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5A2237350 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 11:49:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 11:49:58 -0800 (PST) From: Keith Woodworth To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: 4.7 and Sendmail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just installed a new 4.7 machine and find some of the behaviours different compared to other versions. Main one seems to be sendmail. I setup the usual resolv.conf search mydomain.net nameserver ip.add.res.s the machine is registerd in DNS with an A record (machine will move to another IP at some point so didnt setup a PTR) In aliases setup to send roots' mail to me. Not getting anything, but it is queued and sendmail deferrs it cause it cant reach: localhost.mydomain.net Firing up sendmail -bd and doing a: mail root mail goes fine and I processed the mail queue manually all the messages there got sent. All the FBSD machines I have run in the past dont need sendmail running as a process so have disabled it on start up and mail has worked just fine just by setting DNS, resolv.conf and adding an alias to forward roots mail to me at another address. Searching the Handbook/FAQ did not find much, but the archives I found a post stating that: sendmail_enable=NO sendmail_submit_enable=YES sendmail_msp_queue_enable=YES will work but then I have to run a sendmail process. I found another post that since 4.6 you have to run sendmail so as to accept mail from localhost. Is this right? I'd rather not have to run the sendmail process on a machine if I dont have to since I dont run sendmail as a process on the 3 other FBSD machines we have around. We lost touch with sendmail when we retired out last machine running sendmail about a year and a half ago. Thanks for any clarification on this. Keith To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message