From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 4 01:54:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA4437B401 for ; Sun, 4 May 2003 01:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from protactinium.btinternet.com (protactinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAC043FAF for ; Sun, 4 May 2003 01:54:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-isp@epcdirect.co.uk) Received: from dial81-135-34-13.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.135.34.13] helo=gate.bka.epcdirect.co.uk) by protactinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19CFGe-0002nR-00; Sun, 04 May 2003 09:54:44 +0100 Received: from lfarr (l-farr.bka.epcdirect.co.uk [192.168.10.200]) h448t6ve067568; Sun, 4 May 2003 09:55:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd-isp@epcdirect.co.uk) From: "Lawrence Farr" To: Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 09:54:43 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c3121a$ced39bd0$c80aa8c0@lfarr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <20030503160901.M43544@rigel.orionsys.com> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Email migration from VopMail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 08:54:48 -0000 Hi, We're doing this with Postfix/Tpop3d authenticating against a MySQL database. You can also set a default domain for people who don't specify one in their pop settings. Lawrence Farr EPC Direct Limited > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of David Babler > Sent: 04 May 2003 00:21 > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Email migration from VopMail > > > > I have a customer who wants to move his dialup customers > (600+ accounts) > from VopMail on Windows 2000 to Unix. So far, so good. > Unfortunately, he > has all of his customers configured with a non-standard setup that > VopMail supports for virtual domains, though 98% of them are > in the real > domain. Specifically he has them all set up to present a "username" as > 'user@example.com', the same as their realmed dialup login. > > He needs SMTP, ASMTP, POP3 and IMAP. He DOES NOT want to have to have > any customers change their setups or email addresses and I am having a > devil of a time explaining how non-standard VopMail is. Does anybody > know of any way that sendmail or postfix and anybody's POP3 > and IMAP can > be forced into authenticating with such a non-standard login? > > -Dave > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 4 09:14:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C23037B401 for ; Sun, 4 May 2003 09:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out004.verizon.net (out004pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC2043FBD for ; Sun, 4 May 2003 09:14:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuck@codefab.com) Received: from codefab.com ([129.44.60.214]) by out004.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20030504161445.BYKI28930.out004.verizon.net@codefab.com> for ; Sun, 4 May 2003 11:14:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3EB53C74.40500@codefab.com> Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 12:14:44 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: CodeFab User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030501 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out004.verizon.net from [129.44.60.214] at Sun, 4 May 2003 11:14:45 -0500 Subject: Netblocks to filter, was: Re: [fw-wiz] Protecting a datacentre with a firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 16:14:47 -0000 I'd dug up some information about invalid IP network blocks to filter from a discussion on the firewall-wizards mailing list, and converted it to a set of IPFW(2) rules: [ ... ] And let's raise the bar a little, and see how many firewall vendors handle bogus netblocks properly? There's a nice resource here: http://www.cymru.com/Bogons/index.html which says: | How much does it help to filter the bogons? In one study conducted by | Rob Thomas of a frequently attacked site, fully 60% of the naughty | packets were obvious bogons (e.g. 127.1.2.3, 0.5.4.3, etc.). Does Zorp know about and filter these properly? Does Cisco's PIX? I've been blocking many of them already, but here's my updated set of IPFW2 rules, with RFC-1918, autoconf, and multicast addresses commented out. I'm doing NAT or divert sockets in some cases and have per-interface directional rules, but season to taste: #### # Stop other bogus networks (often used by DDoS attacks) add deny log all from 0.0.0.0/7 to any add deny log all from 2.0.0.0/8 to any add deny log all from 5.0.0.0/8 to any add deny log all from 7.0.0.0/8 to any #add deny log all from 10.0.0.0/8 to any add deny log all from 23.0.0.0/8 to any add deny log all from 27.0.0.0/8 to any add deny log all from 31.0.0.0/8 to any add deny log all from 36.0.0.0/7 to any add deny log all from 39.0.0.0/8 to any add deny log all from 41.0.0.0/8 to any add deny log all from 42.0.0.0/8 to any add deny log all from 49.0.0.0/8 to any add deny log all from 50.0.0.0/8 to any add deny log all from 58.0.0.0/7 to any add deny log all from 70.0.0.0/7 to any add deny log all from 72.0.0.0/5 to any add deny log all from 83.0.0.0/8 to any add deny log all from 84.0.0.0/6 to any add deny log all from 88.0.0.0/5 to any add deny log all from 96.0.0.0/3 to any #add deny log all from 169.254.0.0/16 to any #add deny log all from 172.16.0.0/12 to any add deny log all from 173.0.0.0/8 to any add deny log all from 174.0.0.0/7 to any add deny log all from 176.0.0.0/5 to any add deny log all from 184.0.0.0/6 to any add deny log all from 189.0.0.0/8 to any add deny log all from 190.0.0.0/8 to any add deny log all from 192.0.2.0/24 to any #add deny log all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any add deny log all from 197.0.0.0/8 to any add deny log all from 198.18.0.0/15 to any add deny log all from 223.0.0.0/8 to any #add deny log all from 224.0.0.0/3 to any -- -Chuck PS: If this information is valid and seems useful to other people, maybe I'll send-pr these as a set of suggested changes for /etc/rc.firewall. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 4 10:59:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6FD37B401 for ; Sun, 4 May 2003 10:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [207.200.153.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C161043F75 for ; Sun, 4 May 2003 10:59:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 19CMBb-0004lx-00; Sun, 4 May 2003 09:17:59 -0700 Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 09:17:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: <3EB53C74.40500@codefab.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netblocks to filter, was: Re: [fw-wiz] Protecting a datacentre with a firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 17:59:39 -0000 On Sun, 4 May 2003, Chuck Swiger wrote: > I'd dug up some information about invalid IP network blocks to filter > from a discussion on the firewall-wizards mailing list, and converted it > to a set of IPFW(2) rules: ... Be careful with this stuff though. While some blocks like 10/8 are obviously dedicated for internal use, some blocks are merely "reserved". The reserved blocks will be assigned to regional registries at some point. For instance, 173/8 will be used some day, probably by end of next year. Just recently a new block was assinged to a regional registry, which began assigning networks to ISPs. The problem is that many sites have filters blocking this IP block. That means the ISPs are faced with lots of strange connectivity problems when using those IPs. Tom From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 4 12:12:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961ED37B401 for ; Sun, 4 May 2003 12:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E357243FDD for ; Sun, 4 May 2003 12:12:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mario@schmut.com) Received: (qmail 15090 invoked from network); 4 May 2003 19:12:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO schmut.com) ([66.92.219.142]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 May 2003 19:12:48 -0000 Received: from 192.168.23.97 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mario@schmut.com) by webmail.schmut.com with HTTP; Sun, 4 May 2003 12:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1676.192.168.23.97.1052075602.squirrel@webmail.schmut.com> Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 12:13:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "mario" To: In-Reply-To: <3EB53C74.40500@codefab.com> References: <3EB53C74.40500@codefab.com> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.9) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netblocks to filter, was: Re: [fw-wiz] Protecting a datacentre with a firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mario@schmut.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 19:12:43 -0000 I run a nightly script that diffs these against yesterdays version. http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3330.txt http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space I adjust my rule sets as these change. BTW i think these are legal. 049/8 May 94 Joint Technical Command (Returned to IANA Mar 98) 050/8 May 94 Joint Technical Command (Returned to IANA Mar 98) > I'd dug up some information about invalid IP network blocks to filter > from a discussion on the firewall-wizards mailing list, and converted it > to a set of IPFW(2) rules: > > [ ... ] > And let's raise the bar a little, and see how many firewall vendors > handle bogus netblocks properly? There's a nice resource here: > http://www.cymru.com/Bogons/index.html which says: > > | How much does it help to filter the bogons? In one study conducted by > | Rob Thomas of a frequently attacked site, fully 60% of the naughty | > packets were obvious bogons (e.g. 127.1.2.3, 0.5.4.3, etc.). > > Does Zorp know about and filter these properly? Does Cisco's PIX? > > I've been blocking many of them already, but here's my updated set of > IPFW2 rules, with RFC-1918, autoconf, and multicast addresses commented > out. I'm doing NAT or divert sockets in some cases and have > per-interface directional rules, but season to taste: > > #### > # Stop other bogus networks (often used by DDoS attacks) > > add deny log all from 0.0.0.0/7 to any > add deny log all from 2.0.0.0/8 to any > add deny log all from 5.0.0.0/8 to any > add deny log all from 7.0.0.0/8 to any > #add deny log all from 10.0.0.0/8 to any > add deny log all from 23.0.0.0/8 to any > add deny log all from 27.0.0.0/8 to any > add deny log all from 31.0.0.0/8 to any > add deny log all from 36.0.0.0/7 to any > add deny log all from 39.0.0.0/8 to any > add deny log all from 41.0.0.0/8 to any > add deny log all from 42.0.0.0/8 to any > add deny log all from 49.0.0.0/8 to any > add deny log all from 50.0.0.0/8 to any > add deny log all from 58.0.0.0/7 to any > add deny log all from 70.0.0.0/7 to any > add deny log all from 72.0.0.0/5 to any > add deny log all from 83.0.0.0/8 to any > add deny log all from 84.0.0.0/6 to any > add deny log all from 88.0.0.0/5 to any > add deny log all from 96.0.0.0/3 to any > #add deny log all from 169.254.0.0/16 to any > #add deny log all from 172.16.0.0/12 to any > add deny log all from 173.0.0.0/8 to any > add deny log all from 174.0.0.0/7 to any > add deny log all from 176.0.0.0/5 to any > add deny log all from 184.0.0.0/6 to any > add deny log all from 189.0.0.0/8 to any > add deny log all from 190.0.0.0/8 to any > add deny log all from 192.0.2.0/24 to any > #add deny log all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any > add deny log all from 197.0.0.0/8 to any > add deny log all from 198.18.0.0/15 to any > add deny log all from 223.0.0.0/8 to any > #add deny log all from 224.0.0.0/3 to any > > -- > -Chuck > > PS: If this information is valid and seems useful to other people, maybe > I'll send-pr these as a set of suggested changes for /etc/rc.firewall. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" my 2 cents mario;> ---------------------------------------------------- Do you schmut!? http://www.schmut.com :) ... then again for a real web site you could try: House Of Sites http://www.HouseOfSites.net From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 04:07:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA3C37B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 04:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from protactinium.btinternet.com (protactinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A108D43F3F for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 04:07:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-isp@epcdirect.co.uk) Received: from dial81-135-34-13.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.135.34.13] helo=gate.bka.epcdirect.co.uk) by zinc with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19CFFk-0006SR-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 May 2003 09:53:48 +0100 Received: from lfarr (l-farr.bka.epcdirect.co.uk [192.168.10.200]) h448eVrx067441; Sun, 4 May 2003 09:40:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd-isp@epcdirect.co.uk) From: "Lawrence Farr" To: Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 09:40:08 +0100 Message-ID: <000601c31218$c843fdc0$c80aa8c0@lfarr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <20030503160901.M43544@rigel.orionsys.com> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Email migration from VopMail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 11:07:02 -0000 Hi, We're doing this with Postfix/Tpop3d authenticating against a MySQL database. You can also set a default domain for people who don't specify one in their pop settings. Lawrence Farr EPC Direct Limited > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of David Babler > Sent: 04 May 2003 00:21 > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Email migration from VopMail > > > > I have a customer who wants to move his dialup customers > (600+ accounts) > from VopMail on Windows 2000 to Unix. So far, so good. > Unfortunately, he > has all of his customers configured with a non-standard setup that > VopMail supports for virtual domains, though 98% of them are > in the real > domain. Specifically he has them all set up to present a "username" as > 'user@example.com', the same as their realmed dialup login. > > He needs SMTP, ASMTP, POP3 and IMAP. He DOES NOT want to have to have > any customers change their setups or email addresses and I am having a > devil of a time explaining how non-standard VopMail is. Does anybody > know of any way that sendmail or postfix and anybody's POP3 > and IMAP can > be forced into authenticating with such a non-standard login? > > -Dave > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 05:28:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAC137B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 05:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opium.co.za (opium.co.za [196.34.165.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD6E43FAF for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 05:28:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@opium.co.za) Received: from mark (helo=localhost) by opium.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Cf5K-0006jM-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 May 2003 14:28:46 +0200 Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 14:28:46 +0200 (SAST) From: Mark Bojara X-X-Sender: mark@opium.co.za To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030505142730.A322-100000@opium.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: mark Subject: default to deny rule X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 12:28:56 -0000 Hello All, I have setup a default to deny ipfw rule and I would like that rule to log all denied packets aswell. Eg change it to: "65535 deny log ip from any to any" How would I do this? Regards Mark Bojara ---------------------------------------------------------------- A life lived in fear is half a life lived. ---------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 05:45:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D489237B404 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 05:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.dev.itouchnet.net (itouchlabs.com [196.15.188.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8150643FBD for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 05:45:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bvi@itouchlabs.com) Received: from nobody by mx1.dev.itouchnet.net with scanned_ok (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19CfOz-000PXy-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 May 2003 14:49:05 +0200 X-TLS: TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128 itouchlabs.com -> mx1.dev.itouchnet.net Received: from itouchlabs.com ([196.15.188.2] helo=Beastie) by mx1.dev.itouchnet.net with esmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19CfOy-000PXg-00; Mon, 05 May 2003 14:49:04 +0200 Message-ID: <01bc01c31303$fa4680e0$4508a8c0@Beastie> From: "Barry Irwin" To: "Mark Bojara" , References: <20030505142730.A322-100000@opium.co.za> Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 14:43:28 +0200 Organization: iTouch Labs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Checked: This message has been scanned for any virusses and unauthorized attachments. X-iScan-ID: 98200-1052138945-20150@unconfigured version $Name: REL_2_0_4 $ Subject: Re: default to deny rule X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 12:45:39 -0000 The easiest, is to put in a rule just befroe it say 653500 deny log logamount ip from any to any you could even break it down to log against separate rule numbers for tcp, udp, icmp, etc. withc a catchall at the end. Barry -- Barry Irwin bvi@itouchlabs.com Tel: +27214875178 Systems Administrator: Networks And Security iTouch Technology iTouch TAS http://www.itouchlabs.com Mobile: +27824457210 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Bojara" To: Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 2:28 PM Subject: default to deny rule > Hello All, > > I have setup a default to deny ipfw rule and I would like that rule to log > all denied packets aswell. Eg change it to: "65535 deny log ip from any to any" > > How would I do this? > > Regards > Mark Bojara > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > A life lived in fear is half a life lived. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 06:51:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCFC37B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 06:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbox.univie.ac.at (mailbox.univie.ac.at [131.130.1.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFFC43FA3 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 06:51:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from l.ertl@univie.ac.at) Received: from pcle2.cc.univie.ac.at (pcle2.cc.univie.ac.at [131.130.2.177]) by mailbox.univie.ac.at (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h45Dpea2026572 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:51:46 +0200 Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 15:51:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Lukas Ertl To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030505152830.K42559@pcle2.cc.univie.ac.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-DCC-ZID-Univie-Metrics: mailbox 4251; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Subject: ADSM/TSM on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 13:51:55 -0000 Hi there, I'm not quite sure if -isp is the best list to post this to, so if anyone knows a better place, let me know. I'm currently investigating the status quo of ADSM/TSM backup systems on FreeBSD. For those of you who don't know, TSM stands for Tivoli Storage Management and is an IBM Backup/Restore "solution". We are using this backup technique exclusively here at the University of Vienna, and most of our hosts are backing up to a TSM server with a big tape robot. The problem is that there is no native FreeBSD client for TSM. There are in fact various Linux clients that are supposed to work, but the gotcha is that since it runs under Linux emu, it only sees the "real" FreeBSD directories/filesystems that have no complement under /compat/linux (so if you're backing up /bin you get /compat/linux/bin, and for /usr you get /compat/linux/usr and so on). There are some hacks and workarounds for this (like NFS exporting you filesystems and doing local remounting or null mounting you filesystem hierarchy under an artificial mountpoint like /adsmhier), but all in all the linux TSM client is quite a PITA. Another possibility (and we are doing this now) is using an ancient SCO client that can be run under ibcs2 emu, but since this client is really old I'm afraid it will be incompatible with the server some day and since it seems to have problems under -current, I'm looking for a better solution. I contacted IBM regarding a native FreeBSD client (shouldn't be a real problem, and they are already offering clients for a sh*tload if OSs, see ), and this is what I got back: ---8<--- Lukas, there is currently not an IBM Tivoli Storage Manager client for FreeBSD or NetBSD. Likewise, it is not recommended to "make it work" using the available Linux emulation layer as well, since the TSM server may not be able to store information about this scenario properly. I will, however, forward your request to a marketing representative for consideration. Thank you for your feedback. ---8<--- And asked again if it would make sense to setup something like a petition (as we have done for NVidias video drivers), and I got this: ---8<--- Your request has been forwarded as a suggestion, Lukas. As such, it may not get an overt response from our marketing or development departments. But for the time being, unfortunately, FreeBSD is not supported. That does not mean your suggestion has not been heard, however. If you want to pursue this issue, I would recommend that you and other FreeBSD users get involved with some of the IBM Tivoli User Groups and keep up the suggestions. If there truly is a large FreeBSD community out there, a campaign to contact our sales staff with this request would also help make the point. ---8<--- So, this means to me that we should contact them and flood them with requests for a native FreeBSD TSM client. :-) Any comments? regards, le PS: As already said, if there's a better place to submit this, tell me. Is there an "official" contact in the FreeBSD project responsible for requests like this one? --=20 Lukas Ertl eMail: l.ertl@univie.ac.at UNIX-Systemadministrator Tel.: (+43 1) 4277-14073 Zentraler Informatikdienst (ZID) Fax.: (+43 1) 4277-9140 der Universit=E4t Wien http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~le/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 08:02:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11ABF37B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 08:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alcatraz.wolfpaw.net (alcatraz.wolfpaw.net [204.209.44.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B8DE43FCB for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 08:02:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin-lists@wolfpaw.net) Received: (qmail 20346 invoked by uid 0); 5 May 2003 15:01:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wolf) (216.123.201.128) by 0 with SMTP; 5 May 2003 15:01:27 -0000 From: "Wolfpaw - Dale Corse" To: "Lukas Ertl" Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 09:16:07 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20030505152830.K42559@pcle2.cc.univie.ac.at> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ADSM/TSM on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 15:02:05 -0000 Hi Lukas, That is why I hate using "big corporations" for much of anything.. the sales guy is really nice when he wants to sell you something worth a lot of money, but once you bought it.. well.. "your suggestion has been noted".. or "oops, misquoted you that feature - it isn't supported, but we can't do anything now, sorry". I had that problem with Argus Systems once :) And they expect me to pay $7000 for an upgrade to the most recent kernel versions so it will be fixed :( .. bleh. Sorry.. had to comment on a bit of bitterness I had stored up :P Let me know who I should email, and I'll send one for you :) Regards, Dale. -------------------------------- Dale Corse System Administrator Wolfpaw Services Inc. http://www.wolfpaw.net (780) 474-4095 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Lukas Ertl > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 7:52 AM > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: ADSM/TSM on FreeBSD > > > Hi there, > > I'm not quite sure if -isp is the best list to post this > to, so if anyone > knows a better place, let me know. > > I'm currently investigating the status quo of ADSM/TSM > backup systems on > FreeBSD. For those of you who don't know, TSM stands for > Tivoli Storage > Management and is an IBM Backup/Restore "solution". > > > We are using this backup technique exclusively here at the > University of > Vienna, and most of our hosts are backing up to a TSM > server with a big > tape robot. > > The problem is that there is no native FreeBSD client for > TSM. There are > in fact various Linux clients that are supposed to work, > but the gotcha is > that since it runs under Linux emu, it only sees the "real" FreeBSD > directories/filesystems that have no complement under > /compat/linux (so if > you're backing up /bin you get /compat/linux/bin, and for > /usr you get > /compat/linux/usr and so on). There are some hacks and > workarounds for > this (like NFS exporting you filesystems and doing local > remounting or > null mounting you filesystem hierarchy under an artificial > mountpoint like > /adsmhier), but all in all the linux TSM client is quite a PITA. > > Another possibility (and we are doing this now) is using an > ancient SCO > client that can be run under ibcs2 emu, but since this > client is really > old I'm afraid it will be incompatible with the server some > day and since > it seems to have problems under -current, I'm looking for a better > solution. > > I contacted IBM regarding a native FreeBSD client > (shouldn't be a real > problem, and they are already offering clients for a > sh*tload if OSs, see > ), and this is what I got back: ---8<--- Lukas, there is currently not an IBM Tivoli Storage Manager client for FreeBSD or NetBSD. Likewise, it is not recommended to "make it work" using the available Linux emulation layer as well, since the TSM server may not be able to store information about this scenario properly. I will, however, forward your request to a marketing representative for consideration. Thank you for your feedback. ---8<--- And asked again if it would make sense to setup something like a petition (as we have done for NVidias video drivers), and I got this: ---8<--- Your request has been forwarded as a suggestion, Lukas. As such, it may not get an overt response from our marketing or development departments. But for the time being, unfortunately, FreeBSD is not supported. That does not mean your suggestion has not been heard, however. If you want to pursue this issue, I would recommend that you and other FreeBSD users get involved with some of the IBM Tivoli User Groups and keep up the suggestions. If there truly is a large FreeBSD community out there, a campaign to contact our sales staff with this request would also help make the point. ---8<--- So, this means to me that we should contact them and flood them with requests for a native FreeBSD TSM client. :-) Any comments? regards, le PS: As already said, if there's a better place to submit this, tell me. Is there an "official" contact in the FreeBSD project responsible for requests like this one? -- Lukas Ertl eMail: l.ertl@univie.ac.at UNIX-Systemadministrator Tel.: (+43 1) 4277-14073 Zentraler Informatikdienst (ZID) Fax.: (+43 1) 4277-9140 der Universität Wien http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~le/ _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 09:05:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C5637B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 09:05:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from accounts.amigo.net (smtp.amigo.net [209.94.64.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B4843F93 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 09:05:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randys@amigo.net) Received: from stalker.amigo.net ([209.94.67.250]) by accounts.amigo.net with esmtp; Mon, 05 May 2003 10:05:09 -0600 Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 10:06:28 -0600 (MDT) From: Randy Smith X-X-Sender: randy@stalker.amigo.net To: Wolfpaw - Dale Corse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030505095552.Q1406-100000@stalker.amigo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: SpamAssassin Rulesets X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 16:05:11 -0000 On Fri, 2 May 2003, Wolfpaw - Dale Corse wrote: > Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 09:14:05 -0600 > From: Wolfpaw - Dale Corse > To: Randy Smith > Cc: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" > Subject: RE: SpamAssassin Rulesets > > Hi Randy, > > User config from a webpage.. very nice. Could you perhaps > expand more on how to do that? I see what appears to be defaults > in your config there.. but how does spamassassin know what the > user selects? I store the results in a MySQL db as described in http://www.spamassassin.org/dist/sql/README. The user_scores_* settings in the config that I posted tell SA where the settings are. The username column is set to the user's email address. SA keys of that column to find the user's settings. > > Doing it via a webpage would be nice and smooth, If you wouldn't > mind dropping a few hints I would appreciate it :) Actually, I provide two interfaces. The first is based on php-sa which is listed in the README above. This code is ugly but works. The second interface is a plugin to SquirrelMail called SpamAssassin+SQL (sasql). It's a much nicer interface and a lot easier to add new supported settings to the interface. (In the intrests of full disclosure, I should mention here that I wrote sasql.) > > Regards, > Dale. > -------------------------------- > Dale Corse > System Administrator > Wolfpaw Services Inc. > http://www.wolfpaw.net > (780) 474-4095 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Randy Smith > > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 8:33 AM > > To: Chris Cook > > Cc: > > Subject: Re: SpamAssassin Rulesets > > > > > > On Thu, 1 May 2003, Chris Cook wrote: > > > > > Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 12:56:02 -0500 > > > From: Chris Cook > > > To: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" > > > Subject: SpamAssassin Rulesets > > > > > > Does anyone have a really good local.cf for their > > SpamAssassin installs > > > that they use in a real-world ISP environment? I figured > > this would be > > > a good place to ask if people were willing to share their > > "tweaked" > > > config to help the spam fighters. Of course being in the ISP > > > environment the config would have to be somewhat forgiving. > > > > > > Thanks for any feedback. > > > > > > > Below is what I use. I allow users to set their own > > settings stored in a > > mysql db. Note: the 'defang_mime' and 'report_header' went > > away with SA > > 2.50-ish. (I just haven't pulled them from my config yet.) > > > > ----- > > > > use_dcc 0 > > spam_level_stars 0 > > skip_rbl_checks 0 > > dcc_add_header 1 > > allow_user_rules 0 > > all_spam_to postmaster@amigo.net abuse@amigo.net > > > > # User configurable via web page. > > rewrite_subject 0 > > report_header 1 > > defang_mime 0 > > use_terse_report 0 > > > > user_scores_dsn DBI:mysql:Accounts:10.1.1.1 > > user_scores_sql_username > > user_scores_sql_password > > user_scores_sql_table SA_userprefs > > > > > > > > -- > > Randy Smith > > Amigo.Net Systems Administrator > > 1-719-589-6100 x 4185 > > http://www.amigo.net/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- Randy Smith Amigo.Net Systems Administrator 1-719-589-6100 x 4185 http://www.amigo.net/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 09:11:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C8237B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 09:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from accounts.amigo.net (smtp.amigo.net [209.94.64.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4E343F85 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 09:11:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randys@amigo.net) Received: from stalker.amigo.net ([209.94.67.250]) by accounts.amigo.net with esmtp; Mon, 05 May 2003 10:11:50 -0600 Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 10:13:09 -0600 (MDT) From: Randy Smith X-X-Sender: randy@stalker.amigo.net To: Aaron Daubman In-Reply-To: <001301c310c1$7c305260$cd00a8c0@grievous> Message-ID: <20030505101101.H1406-100000@stalker.amigo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: SpamAssassin Rulesets X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 16:11:52 -0000 On Fri, 2 May 2003, Aaron Daubman wrote: > Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 11:42:48 -0400 > From: Aaron Daubman > To: 'Wolfpaw - Dale Corse' , > 'Randy Smith' > Cc: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" > Subject: RE: SpamAssassin Rulesets > > Not to but-in, but here's one: > http://webuserprefs.pipegrep.net/ > (does indeed sound interesting) I hadn't seen that one when I was looking for an interface a few months back. It does look nice. > > Cheers, > ~Aaron > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] > On Behalf Of Wolfpaw - Dale Corse > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 11:14 AM > To: Randy Smith > Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: SpamAssassin Rulesets > > Hi Randy, > > User config from a webpage.. very nice. Could you perhaps > expand more on how to do that? I see what appears to be defaults > in your config there.. but how does spamassassin know what the > user selects? > > Doing it via a webpage would be nice and smooth, If you wouldn't > mind dropping a few hints I would appreciate it :) > > Regards, > Dale. > -------------------------------- > Dale Corse > System Administrator > Wolfpaw Services Inc. > http://www.wolfpaw.net > (780) 474-4095 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Randy Smith > > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 8:33 AM > > To: Chris Cook > > Cc: > > Subject: Re: SpamAssassin Rulesets > > > > > > On Thu, 1 May 2003, Chris Cook wrote: > > > > > Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 12:56:02 -0500 > > > From: Chris Cook > > > To: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" > > > Subject: SpamAssassin Rulesets > > > > > > Does anyone have a really good local.cf for their > > SpamAssassin installs > > > that they use in a real-world ISP environment? I figured > > this would be > > > a good place to ask if people were willing to share their > > "tweaked" > > > config to help the spam fighters. Of course being in the ISP > > > environment the config would have to be somewhat forgiving. > > > > > > Thanks for any feedback. > > > > > > > Below is what I use. I allow users to set their own > > settings stored in a > > mysql db. Note: the 'defang_mime' and 'report_header' went > > away with SA > > 2.50-ish. (I just haven't pulled them from my config yet.) > > > > ----- > > > > use_dcc 0 > > spam_level_stars 0 > > skip_rbl_checks 0 > > dcc_add_header 1 > > allow_user_rules 0 > > all_spam_to postmaster@amigo.net abuse@amigo.net > > > > # User configurable via web page. > > rewrite_subject 0 > > report_header 1 > > defang_mime 0 > > use_terse_report 0 > > > > user_scores_dsn DBI:mysql:Accounts:10.1.1.1 > > user_scores_sql_username > > user_scores_sql_password > > user_scores_sql_table SA_userprefs > > > > > > > > -- > > Randy Smith > > Amigo.Net Systems Administrator > > 1-719-589-6100 x 4185 > > http://www.amigo.net/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > -- Randy Smith Amigo.Net Systems Administrator 1-719-589-6100 x 4185 http://www.amigo.net/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 12:47:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE5437B40D for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 12:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gray.impulse.net (gray.impulse.net [207.154.64.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753D943FA3 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 12:47:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ted@gray.impulse.net) Received: from gray.impulse.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gray.impulse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3674C28; Mon, 5 May 2003 12:47:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Matthew D. Fuller" From: Ted Cabeen In-Reply-To: <20030503010017.GF27042@over-yonder.net> References: <20030503010017.GF27042@over-yonder.net> <929978883.20030430114541@mcflysr.kurgan.ru> <871xzkaqqt.fsf@gray.impulse.net> Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 12:47:48 -0700 Sender: ted@gray.impulse.net Message-Id: <20030505194748.3674C28@gray.impulse.net> cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: martin mcflysr Subject: Re: mailserver for 2,500 users on Intel platform X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 19:47:49 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In message <20030503010017.GF27042@over-yonder.net>, "Matthew D. Fuller" writes : >On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 09:34:34AM -0700 I heard the voice of >Ted Cabeen, and lo! it spake thus: >> >> 2500 users is nothing. You could do that on any machine bigger than >> 500Mhz with 256MB of memory without any problems. Disk should be how >> ever much you think you'll need. On average, each user will eat up >> about 5MB of disk space with POP accounts, and somewhat more with >> IMAP. > >You're crazy 8-} > >I've run that many users on a Pentium Pro 180 with 128 megs of RAM, on a >4 gig disk. Yeah, I was erring on the side of caution. With mail loads increasing every month, you want to plan for some growth. :) >Of course, it was pretty full on disk space, but it was loafing along on >the rest. That sounds about right. :) - -- Ted Cabeen http://www.pobox.com/~secabeen ted@impulse.net Check Website or Keyserver for PGP/GPG Key BA0349D2 secabeen@pobox.com "I have taken all knowledge to be my province." -F. Bacon secabeen@cabeen.org "Human kind cannot bear very much reality."-T.S.Eliot cabeen@netcom.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQE+tr/koayJfLoDSdIRAqAzAKDQvyXSmITDtg6qETazZ6Z09qoJmACgoJcx +1CK05jc8DqdP5OR5tqgjlE= =WkjO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 14:16:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E6E37B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web1.subnetmask.net (web1.subnetmask.net [207.44.145.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B418343FA3 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:16:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@psyxakias.com) Received: (qmail 7599 invoked from network); 5 May 2003 21:16:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO computer) (62.103.177.124) by web1.subnetmask.net with SMTP; 5 May 2003 21:16:11 -0000 Message-ID: <001301c3134b$8ec5d2b0$162ea8c0@computer> From: "PsYxAkIaS (FreeBSD)" To: Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 00:16:11 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: FREEBSD: Temperature monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 21:16:14 -0000 Hello all, First time I post something here. Do you know any good TERMINAL temperature monitors that will show me = motherboard/cpu temperatures in a freebsd box? I am having some problems and worrying if there is a temperature = problem. Best Regards From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 14:28:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6C137B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imhotep.yuckfou.org (cust.89.117.adsl.cistron.nl [195.64.89.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F353F43FBF for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:28:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nivo+freebsd-isp@yuckfou.org) Received: by imhotep.yuckfou.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1A74DA988; Mon, 5 May 2003 23:28:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 23:28:42 +0200 From: Nils Vogels To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030505212842.GD45133@imhotep.yuckfou.org> References: <001301c3134b$8ec5d2b0$162ea8c0@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001301c3134b$8ec5d2b0$162ea8c0@computer> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP-Key: Key 0xAD3A5AAD from pub. servers X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1585 93A2 9595 177B 5D5F 1271 3333 57FD AD3A 5AAD Subject: Re: FREEBSD: Temperature monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 21:28:50 -0000 On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 12:16:11AM +0300, PsYxAkIaS (FreeBSD) (PF) wrote: PF> Hello all, PF> PF> First time I post something here. PF> PF> Do you know any good TERMINAL temperature monitors that will show me motherboard/cpu temperatures in a freebsd box? I have good experiences with healthd. A make search in the portstree also returns xmbmon, no idea how that is though. Gr, Nils. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 15:20:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4432E37B404 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eurus.primus.ca (mail.tor.primus.ca [216.254.136.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1882343FA3 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:20:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leth@lethargic.dyndns.org) Received: from dialin-159-33.tor.primus.ca ([216.254.159.33] helo=lethargic.dyndns.org) by eurus.primus.ca with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.36 #3) id 19CoIs-0003ff-0A; Mon, 05 May 2003 18:19:23 -0400 Received: from lethargic.dyndns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lethargic.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h45MJLOu040775; Mon, 5 May 2003 18:19:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from leth@lethargic.dyndns.org) Received: (from leth@localhost) by lethargic.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h45MJ9Bu040774; Mon, 5 May 2003 18:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 18:19:08 -0400 From: Jason Hunt To: mario Message-ID: <20030505221908.GA40728@lethargic.dyndns.org> References: <3EB53C74.40500@codefab.com> <1676.192.168.23.97.1052075602.squirrel@webmail.schmut.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1676.192.168.23.97.1052075602.squirrel@webmail.schmut.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: chuck@codefab.com Subject: Re: Netblocks to filter, was: Re: [fw-wiz] Protecting a datacentre with a firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 22:20:10 -0000 On Sun, May 04, 2003 at 12:13:22PM -0700, mario wrote: > I run a nightly script that diffs these against yesterdays version. > http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3330.txt RFCs don't change. > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space This should be the only file you need to watch. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 15:52:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBDC37B482 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C22D43F75 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:52:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@freebsd.org) Received: from master.dougb.net (12-234-22-23.client.attbi.com[12.234.22.23]) by attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with SMTP id <2003050522522500100cr0ase>; Mon, 5 May 2003 22:52:26 +0000 Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 15:52:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton To: Jason Hunt In-Reply-To: <20030505221908.GA40728@lethargic.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20030505155013.N636@znfgre.qbhto.arg> References: <3EB53C74.40500@codefab.com> <1676.192.168.23.97.1052075602.squirrel@webmail.schmut.com> <20030505221908.GA40728@lethargic.dyndns.org> Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-message-flag: Outlook -- Not just for spreading viruses anymore! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: chuck@codefab.com Subject: Re: Netblocks to filter, was: Re: [fw-wiz] Protecting a datacentre with a firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 22:52:40 -0000 If you're looking for a bogon list, I'd like to highly recommend the excellent work to be found at http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-list.html There is also an -announce list that you can subscribe to at http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/bogon-announce There is no need to reinvent the wheel on this topic, and several good reasons not to. Hope this helps, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 01:01:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A247237B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 01:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.dev.itouchnet.net (itouchlabs.com [196.15.188.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C1A43F93 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 01:01:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bvi@itouchlabs.com) Received: from nobody by mx1.dev.itouchnet.net with scanned_ok (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19CxRI-000DXq-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 06 May 2003 10:04:40 +0200 X-TLS: TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128 itouchlabs.com -> mx1.dev.itouchnet.net Received: from itouchlabs.com ([196.15.188.2] helo=Beastie) by mx1.dev.itouchnet.net with esmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19CxRG-000DX5-01; Tue, 06 May 2003 10:04:38 +0200 Message-ID: <003f01c313a5$6691d230$4508a8c0@Beastie> From: "Barry Irwin" To: "PsYxAkIaS (FreeBSD)" , References: <001301c3134b$8ec5d2b0$162ea8c0@computer> Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 09:55:49 +0200 Organization: iTouch Labs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Checked: This message has been scanned for any virusses and unauthorized attachments. X-iScan-ID: 52058-1052208280-81329@unconfigured version $Name: REL_2_0_4 $ Subject: Re: FREEBSD: Temperature monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 08:01:05 -0000 naother option which I have used is lmmon Port: lmmon-0.65 Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/lmmon Info: Display information gathered from MB power management controller Maint: jedgar@FreeBSD.org Index: sysutils There are also a number of X based monitors some of which iirc can output plain text as well. -- Barry Irwin bvi@itouchlabs.com Tel: +27214875178 Systems Administrator: Networks And Security iTouch Technology iTouch TAS http://www.itouchlabs.com Mobile: +27824457210 ----- Original Message ----- From: "PsYxAkIaS (FreeBSD)" To: Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: FREEBSD: Temperature monitor Hello all, First time I post something here. Do you know any good TERMINAL temperature monitors that will show me motherboard/cpu temperatures in a freebsd box? I am having some problems and worrying if there is a temperature problem. Best Regards _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 01:25:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2ADB37B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 01:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from service.sh.cvut.cz (service.sh.cvut.cz [147.32.127.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFBE43F85 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 01:25:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from buki@dak2060.sh.cvut.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by service.sh.cvut.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02281B821B; Tue, 6 May 2003 10:25:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from service.sh.cvut.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (service [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29698-03; Tue, 6 May 2003 10:25:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dak2060.sh.cvut.cz (dak2060.sh.cvut.cz [147.32.127.59]) by service.sh.cvut.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C63E1B808A; Tue, 6 May 2003 10:25:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dak2060.sh.cvut.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dak2060.sh.cvut.cz (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h468PUI6061150; Tue, 6 May 2003 10:25:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from buki@dak2060.sh.cvut.cz) Received: (from buki@localhost) by dak2060.sh.cvut.cz (8.12.6p2/8.12.6/Submit) id h468PTU3061149; Tue, 6 May 2003 10:25:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 10:25:29 +0200 From: Buki To: Nils Vogels Message-ID: <20030506082529.GA61019@dak2060.sh.cvut.cz> References: <001301c3134b$8ec5d2b0$162ea8c0@computer> <20030505212842.GD45133@imhotep.yuckfou.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030505212842.GD45133@imhotep.yuckfou.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at sh.cvut.cz cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FREEBSD: Temperature monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 08:25:33 -0000 --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 11:28:42PM +0200, Nils Vogels wrote: > On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 12:16:11AM +0300, PsYxAkIaS (FreeBSD) (PF) wrote: > PF> Hello all, > PF>=20 > PF> First time I post something here. > PF>=20 > PF> Do you know any good TERMINAL temperature monitors that will show me = motherboard/cpu temperatures in a freebsd box? >=20 > I have good experiences with healthd. >=20 > A make search in the portstree also returns xmbmon, no idea how that is > though. I use xmbmon (built with "WITHOUT_X11") - so it's really mbmon :) and it works quite well for me >=20 > Gr, >=20 > Nils. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Buki --=20 PGP public key: http://dev.null.cz/buki.asc /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML & Outlook Mail / \ http://www.thebackrow.net --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+t3F5PzhIkpLLm08RAil4AJ0bM+wG9bIYi3ZDE7exPwCrqiwaqQCeKXqJ MFgdU4Q5+ozBq37OPg9CJk0= =dNKH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE-- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 04:36:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088F237B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 04:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.adtaq.com (web.adtaq.com [140.99.30.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A70443FAF for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 04:36:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmf@adtaq.com) Received: from localhost (web.adtaq.com [::ffff:140.99.30.19]) (IDENT: tmf) by web.adtaq.com with esmtp; Tue, 06 May 2003 04:52:20 -0700 Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 04:52:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Faoro To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: cvsup'ing a jail'd environment X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 11:36:52 -0000 Hello, I have virtual servers running on my machine which are currently at 4.7-STABLE. I obviously can cvsup and update the host environment, but am wondering what process to run to update the jail'd environment? Could I simply redo the 'make hierarchy/distribution DESTDIR=$MY_JAIL' with new source over the top of the old? Thanks for any help, -t Anthony M. Faoro II CIO, Adtaq Internet tmf at adtaq dot com 425.444.8787 VOICE 800.861.1834 FAX From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 08:47:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A2B37B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 08:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC7F643F75 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 08:47:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 6851 invoked by uid 106); 6 May 2003 15:46:09 -0000 Received: from 24-90-127-16.nyc.rr.com (HELO win2kpc1) (24.90.127.16) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 6 May 2003 15:46:09 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "Buki" , "Nils Vogels" Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 11:46:31 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2661) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;3) In-Reply-To: <20030506082529.GA61019@dak2060.sh.cvut.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20030506154716.AC7F643F75@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FREEBSD: Temperature monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 15:47:18 -0000 Is there anything out there which works with ServerWorks chipsets? -Simon On Tue, 6 May 2003 10:25:29 +0200, Buki wrote: >On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 11:28:42PM +0200, Nils Vogels wrote: >> On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 12:16:11AM +0300, PsYxAkIaS (FreeBSD) (PF) wrote: >> PF> Hello all, >> PF>=20 >> PF> First time I post something here. >> PF>=20 >> PF> Do you know any good TERMINAL temperature monitors that will show me = >motherboard/cpu temperatures in a freebsd box? >>=20 >> I have good experiences with healthd. >>=20 >> A make search in the portstree also returns xmbmon, no idea how that is >> though. > >I use xmbmon (built with "WITHOUT_X11") - so it's really mbmon :) and it >works quite well for me > >>=20 >> Gr, >>=20 >> Nils. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >Buki >--=20 >PGP public key: http://dev.null.cz/buki.asc > > /"\ > \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign > X Against HTML & Outlook Mail > / \ http://www.thebackrow.net > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 09:50:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4EC37B404 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 09:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from service.sh.cvut.cz (service.sh.cvut.cz [147.32.127.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7F743F3F for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 09:50:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from buki@dak2060.sh.cvut.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by service.sh.cvut.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3671B834D; Tue, 6 May 2003 18:50:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from service.sh.cvut.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (service [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28220-08; Tue, 6 May 2003 18:50:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dak2060.sh.cvut.cz (dak2060.sh.cvut.cz [147.32.127.59]) by service.sh.cvut.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5901C1B835D; Tue, 6 May 2003 18:50:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dak2060.sh.cvut.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dak2060.sh.cvut.cz (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h46Go8I6062358; Tue, 6 May 2003 18:50:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from buki@dak2060.sh.cvut.cz) Received: (from buki@localhost) by dak2060.sh.cvut.cz (8.12.6p2/8.12.6/Submit) id h46Go78c062357; Tue, 6 May 2003 18:50:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 18:50:07 +0200 From: Buki To: Simon Message-ID: <20030506165007.GA62337@dak2060.sh.cvut.cz> References: <20030506082529.GA61019@dak2060.sh.cvut.cz> <20030506154716.AC7F643F75@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030506154716.AC7F643F75@mx1.FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at sh.cvut.cz cc: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FREEBSD: Temperature monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 16:50:14 -0000 --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 11:46:31AM -0400, Simon wrote: >=20 > Is there anything out there which works with ServerWorks chipsets? yeah, that would interest me as well .. I have some machines at work with ServerWorks chipset and it's no-go :( >=20 > -Simon >=20 [snip] > >I use xmbmon (built with "WITHOUT_X11") - so it's really mbmon :) and it > >works quite well for me > > > >> > >> Gr, > >> > >> Nils. Buki --=20 PGP public key: http://dev.null.cz/buki.asc /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML & Outlook Mail / \ http://www.thebackrow.net --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+t+e/PzhIkpLLm08RAncdAKDJiUE2EXYeYi0unht3xukIwfeQqACfezAG 5xyAZr98pprpy21Bc1cYBvw= =sTB7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N-- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 13:33:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6244537B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 13:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bart.LF.net (bart.LF.net [212.9.190.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FCD43FB1 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 13:33:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ms@bart.LF.net) Received: from ms by bart.LF.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 19D97J-0008Yp-00; Di, 06 Mai 2003 22:32:49 +0200 Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 22:32:49 +0200 From: Marc Schoechlin To: Tony Faoro Message-ID: <20030506203249.GA32900@LF.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Ticket-Action: x X-Ticket-Nr: x Sender: Marc Schoechlin cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup'ing a jail'd environment X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 20:33:05 -0000 Hi ! On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 04:52:17AM -0700, Tony Faoro wrote: > I have virtual servers running on my machine which are currently at > 4.7-STABLE. I obviously can cvsup and update the host environment, but am > wondering what process to run to update the jail'd environment? > > Could I simply redo the 'make hierarchy/distribution DESTDIR=$MY_JAIL' > with new source over the top of the old? I think so :-)) After a complete update of your system via CVSup (including Ports), it should be enough to rebuild the jail.environment. Best regards Marc Schoechlin -- Gruss / Best regards | LF.net GmbH | fon +49 711 90074-413 Marc Schoechlin | Ruppmannstr. 27 | fax +49 711 90074-33 ms@LF.net | D-70565 Stuttgart | http://www.lf.net From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 17:32:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C39A37B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 17:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web1.subnetmask.net (web1.subnetmask.net [207.44.145.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E690443FCB for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 17:32:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@psyxakias.com) Received: (qmail 14371 invoked from network); 8 May 2003 00:32:22 -0000 Received: from athei36-d086.otenet.gr (HELO computer) (212.205.233.86) by bofh.reverse.net with SMTP; 8 May 2003 00:32:22 -0000 Message-ID: <000b01c314f9$4a2978f0$162ea8c0@computer> From: "PsYxAkIaS (FreeBSD)" To: Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 03:32:14 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Peer2Peer Networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 00:32:27 -0000 Thanks everyone for mbmon, I installed it and works great. I was also wondering if you know any console(text-based) peer2peer = client for kazaa, morpheus or winmx networks. I had found one in past but i dont remember the name. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 00:04:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938F537B426 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 00:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from taz.secure.icr.com.au (coke.icr.com.au [203.17.49.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED08643FA3 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 00:04:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dale@taz.secure.icr.com.au) Received: from taz.secure.icr.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by taz.secure.icr.com.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h48H5llg000469 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 17:05:47 GMT (envelope-from dale@taz.secure.icr.com.au) Received: (from dale@localhost) by taz.secure.icr.com.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h48H5l1o000467; Thu, 8 May 2003 17:05:47 GMT Message-Id: <200305081705.h48H5l1o000467@taz.secure.icr.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-URL: http://www.icr.com.au/ X-Image-URL: http://www.icr.com.au/~dale/face.gif Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 17:05:47 +0000 From: Dale Walker Subject: Strange error in userland ppp X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dale@icr.com.au List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 07:04:54 -0000 I have a system that has a pppoe ppp profile (called 'ADSL') and a dialup link in the case of failure ('called DIALUP') with appropriate scripting,etc to measure/maintain and bring up/down links as required... ---- which works fine... recently I started getting this error: -------------------------------------------------------------- May 8 16:30:06 server ppp[493]: tun1: Warning: Add! route failed: 0.0.0.0/0: errno: Disc quota exceeded -------------------------------------------------------------- the machine is not configured for using disk quotas, so I'm wondering if maybe this text is representative of another error message... Any ideas?? -- -- Dale Walker < dale@icr.com.au > Independent Computer Retailers (ICR) Pty Ltd http://www.icr.com.au/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 11:35:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E937137B425 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 11:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psknet.com (grant.psknet.com [63.171.251.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE3E943FAF for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 11:35:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: (qmail 35992 invoked by uid 85); 8 May 2003 18:35:51 -0000 Received: from troy@psknet.com by grant.psknet.com by uid 25 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (no such scanner Clear:. Processed in 0.292976 secs); 08 May 2003 18:35:51 -0000 Received: from dilbert.psknet.com (HELO dilbert) (63.171.251.35) by tc.psknet.com with SMTP; 8 May 2003 18:35:50 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 14:35:50 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c31590$a65c3300$23fbab3f@psknet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Virus Scanning X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 18:35:55 -0000 I'm trying to figure out the best approach to handle virus scanning on my new mail server. The machine itself is a beast: Dual Xeon 2.4GHZ (HT) 4GB RAM U160 RAID1 (system) U160 RAID5 (storage) Originally, I was thinking that handling the virus scanning on a memory file system would be best to keep disk IO to a minimum, however, I'm unable to demonstrate the mfs is any faster than a real disk, even when copying 200MB files. This is probably due to softupdates. So, with softupdates enabled, is there any real disk IO if an email message (and it's attachments) are extracted, written, scanned, and deleted within a few hundred milliseconds? Would there be any real advantage to performing these operations on a memory filesystem? TIA, -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks http://www.psknet.com 540.994.4254 - 866.477.5638 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 11:45:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D574937B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 11:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sun-pdt-3.oregontrail.net (sun-pdt-3.oregontrail.net [66.201.128.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E6843FA3 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 11:45:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremys@oregontrail.net) Received: from danny ([66.201.156.7]) Domain MX - UCE Prohibited - CERT) with SMTP id h48Iftl15748 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 11:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <015801c31592$059bc910$079cc942@danny> From: "Jeremy Springer" To: Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 11:45:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Frontpage *ahem* woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 18:45:22 -0000 Greetings, I am having a real booger of a time getting FrontPage 2002 extensions = re-installed from ports after upgrading my server to FreeBSD 4.8. I am = trying for something like Apache+mod_ssl+mod_php4+mysql+frontpage2002 = and can't seem to find any how-to... Has anyone had any reproducible = experience/luck in this department? Can someone point me to a good = recent FAQ or tutorial? Thanks team :) Jeremy Springer Webmaster http://www.fantasylords.com From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 11:48:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3A837B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 11:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psknet.com (grant.psknet.com [63.171.251.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20AE143F85 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 11:48:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: (qmail 40691 invoked by uid 85); 8 May 2003 18:48:42 -0000 Received: from troy@psknet.com by grant.psknet.com by uid 25 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (no such scanner Clear:. Processed in 0.239123 secs); 08 May 2003 18:48:42 -0000 Received: from dilbert.psknet.com (HELO dilbert) (63.171.251.35) by tc.psknet.com with SMTP; 8 May 2003 18:48:42 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: "'Jeremy Springer'" , Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 14:48:42 -0400 Message-ID: <000501c31592$72518720$23fbab3f@psknet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <015801c31592$059bc910$079cc942@danny> Subject: RE: Frontpage *ahem* woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 18:48:45 -0000 After weeks and months of putzing around with that same combo, I finally gave up. Since I had no sites requireing SSL, I simply pulled support for it. The problem, as near as I can tell, is a conflict between suexec and fpexec. It's something I've not been able to resolve (even after pouring over patches used in the apache13-fp port). I still maintain that it would be nice to have a SINGLE apache port with options for whatever the user wants (similar to how the PHP port let's you select which modules to add support for). -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks http://www.psknet.com 540.994.4254 - 866.477.5638 =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Springer > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:46 PM > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Frontpage *ahem* woes >=20 >=20 > Greetings, >=20 > I am having a real booger of a time getting FrontPage 2002=20 > extensions re-installed from ports after upgrading my server=20 > to FreeBSD 4.8. I am trying for something like=20 > Apache+mod_ssl+mod_php4+mysql+frontpage2002 and can't seem to=20 > find any how-to... Has anyone had any reproducible=20 > experience/luck in this department? Can someone point me to=20 > a good recent FAQ or tutorial? >=20 > Thanks team :) >=20 > Jeremy Springer > Webmaster > http://www.fantasylords.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 16:25:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3407C37B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 16:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.npubs.com (mail.zoneseven.net [207.111.208.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5E343F3F for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 16:25:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nielsen@memberwebs.com) Resent-Message-Id: From: "Nielsen" To: "Troy Settle" , "'Jeremy Springer'" , References: <000501c31592$72518720$23fbab3f@psknet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20030508232942.D1B173FF255@mail.npubs.com> Resent-Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 23:29:43 +0000 (GMT) Resent-From: nielsen@memberwebs.com (Postfix Filters) Subject: Re: Frontpage *ahem* woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 23:25:55 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 23:25:55 -0000 Here's something I came up with: http://memberwebs.com/nielsen/unix/docs/frontpage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy Settle" To: "'Jeremy Springer'" ; Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 12:48 Subject: RE: Frontpage *ahem* woes After weeks and months of putzing around with that same combo, I finally gave up. Since I had no sites requireing SSL, I simply pulled support for it. The problem, as near as I can tell, is a conflict between suexec and fpexec. It's something I've not been able to resolve (even after pouring over patches used in the apache13-fp port). I still maintain that it would be nice to have a SINGLE apache port with options for whatever the user wants (similar to how the PHP port let's you select which modules to add support for). -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks http://www.psknet.com 540.994.4254 - 866.477.5638 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Springer > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:46 PM > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Frontpage *ahem* woes > > > Greetings, > > I am having a real booger of a time getting FrontPage 2002 > extensions re-installed from ports after upgrading my server > to FreeBSD 4.8. I am trying for something like > Apache+mod_ssl+mod_php4+mysql+frontpage2002 and can't seem to > find any how-to... Has anyone had any reproducible > experience/luck in this department? Can someone point me to > a good recent FAQ or tutorial? > > Thanks team :) > > Jeremy Springer > Webmaster > http://www.fantasylords.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 16:31:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C44B37B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 16:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psknet.com (grant.psknet.com [63.171.251.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7527743F85 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 16:31:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: (qmail 10918 invoked by uid 85); 8 May 2003 23:31:07 -0000 Received: from troy@psknet.com by grant.psknet.com by uid 25 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (no such scanner Clear:. Processed in 0.42156 secs); 08 May 2003 23:31:07 -0000 Received: from pool-141-152-70-91.roa.east.verizon.net (HELO abyss) (gunk@141.152.70.91) by tc.psknet.com with SMTP; 8 May 2003 23:31:07 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: "'Nielsen'" , "'Jeremy Springer'" , Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 19:31:19 -0400 Message-ID: <000601c315b9$ee795d10$aa8ffea9@abyss> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <20030508232942.D1B173FF255@mail.npubs.com> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Frontpage *ahem* woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 23:31:10 -0000 I should have been more clear... I did get the apache/ssl/fp combo to work, but what I ran into, was that every FP web had to run as the same user, which is/was not desirable. It all comes down to getting suexec/fpexec/etc to all play nice together, and I was unable to come up with the magic formula to get it done. -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks http://www.psknet.com 540.994.4254 ~ 866.477.5638 Pulaski Chamber 2002 Small Business Of The Year > -----Original Message----- > From: Nielsen [mailto:nielsen@memberwebs.com] > Sent: None > To: Troy Settle; 'Jeremy Springer'; freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Frontpage *ahem* woes > > > Here's something I came up with: > > http://memberwebs.com/nielsen/unix/docs/frontpage.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Troy Settle" > To: "'Jeremy Springer'" ; > > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 12:48 > Subject: RE: Frontpage *ahem* woes > > > > After weeks and months of putzing around with that same combo, I > finally > gave up. Since I had no sites requireing SSL, I simply pulled support > for it. > > The problem, as near as I can tell, is a conflict between suexec and > fpexec. It's something I've not been able to resolve (even after > pouring over patches used in the apache13-fp port). > > I still maintain that it would be nice to have a SINGLE apache port > with > options for whatever the user wants (similar to how the PHP port let's > you select which modules to add support for). > > -- > Troy Settle > Pulaski Networks > http://www.psknet.com > 540.994.4254 - 866.477.5638 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Springer > > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:46 PM > > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > > Subject: Frontpage *ahem* woes > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > I am having a real booger of a time getting FrontPage 2002 > > extensions re-installed from ports after upgrading my server > > to FreeBSD 4.8. I am trying for something like > > Apache+mod_ssl+mod_php4+mysql+frontpage2002 and can't seem to > > find any how-to... Has anyone had any reproducible > > experience/luck in this department? Can someone point me to > > a good recent FAQ or tutorial? > > > > Thanks team :) > > > > Jeremy Springer > > Webmaster > > http://www.fantasylords.com > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 00:09:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4843E37B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 00:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [207.200.153.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD4D43F93 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 00:09:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 19E0Pu-0007GI-00; Thu, 8 May 2003 22:27:34 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 22:27:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: Troy Settle In-Reply-To: <000001c31590$a65c3300$23fbab3f@psknet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virus Scanning X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 07:09:15 -0000 Well, mfs is backed by swap, so an actual ram disk could be better (man md). You'd be much better of with a virus scanner that can scan into archives. There are no files to create. Kasperksy can do this. It will likely be twice as fast as any virus scanner that requires unMIMEing and unarchiving. Tom On Thu, 8 May 2003, Troy Settle wrote: > > I'm trying to figure out the best approach to handle virus scanning on > my new mail server. The machine itself is a beast: > Dual Xeon 2.4GHZ (HT) > 4GB RAM > U160 RAID1 (system) > U160 RAID5 (storage) > > Originally, I was thinking that handling the virus scanning on a memory > file system would be best to keep disk IO to a minimum, however, I'm > unable to demonstrate the mfs is any faster than a real disk, even when > copying 200MB files. This is probably due to softupdates. > > So, with softupdates enabled, is there any real disk IO if an email > message (and it's attachments) are extracted, written, scanned, and > deleted within a few hundred milliseconds? Would there be any real > advantage to performing these operations on a memory filesystem? > > TIA, > > -- > Troy Settle > Pulaski Networks > http://www.psknet.com > 540.994.4254 - 866.477.5638 > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 07:59:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25ED37B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 07:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bill.infodev.ca (bill.infodev.ca [216.191.3.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A09B43FBF for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 07:59:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dpageau@infodev.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost.infodev.ca [127.0.0.1]) by bill.infodev.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6444D2EB36 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 10:59:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bill.infodev.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bill.infodev.ca [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with ESMTP id 14566-02 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 10:59:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from infodev.ca (unknown [216.13.47.2]) by bill.infodev.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF692EB35 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 10:59:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3EBBC431.5010809@infodev.ca> Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 11:07:29 -0400 From: "D.Pageau" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: Dual ethernet card X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 14:59:32 -0000 I have a FreeBSD box in 1U Rackmount case, I only have one PCI slot availaible (1U) and I need 3 Ethernet interfaces, one is onboard the other 2 interfaces should be a dual ethernet card. Do you have any experience with this kind of interface, which one (brand/model) is know to be working fine under FreeBSD. Thanks -- Dominic Pageau From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 08:01:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81E737B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 08:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.sandvine.com (sandvine.com [199.243.201.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDFD43FAF for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 08:01:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@sandvine.com) Received: by mail.sandvine.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 9 May 2003 11:01:42 -0400 Message-ID: From: Don Bowman To: "'D.Pageau'" , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 11:01:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: Dual ethernet card X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 15:01:44 -0000 we are using the intel dual-port gigabit copper & fibre with good luck. > -----Original Message----- > From: D.Pageau [mailto:dpageau@infodev.ca] > Sent: May 9, 2003 11:07 > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Dual ethernet card > > > I have a FreeBSD box in 1U Rackmount case, I only have one PCI slot > availaible (1U) and I need 3 Ethernet interfaces, one is onboard the > other 2 interfaces should be a dual ethernet card. > > Do you have any experience with this kind of interface, which one > (brand/model) is know to be working fine under FreeBSD. > > Thanks > > -- > Dominic Pageau > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 08:27:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BDAD37B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 08:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from accounts.amigo.net (mail.amigo.net [209.94.64.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B12443FA3 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 08:27:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randys@amigo.net) Received: from stalker.amigo.net ([209.94.67.250]) by accounts.amigo.net with esmtp; Fri, 09 May 2003 09:27:45 -0600 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 09:27:53 -0600 (MDT) From: Randy Smith X-X-Sender: randy@stalker.amigo.net To: "D.Pageau" In-Reply-To: <3EBBC431.5010809@infodev.ca> Message-ID: <20030509092459.U1529-100000@stalker.amigo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Dual ethernet card X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 15:27:47 -0000 On Fri, 9 May 2003, D.Pageau wrote: > Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 11:07:29 -0400 > From: D.Pageau > To: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" > Subject: Dual ethernet card > > I have a FreeBSD box in 1U Rackmount case, I only have one PCI slot > availaible (1U) and I need 3 Ethernet interfaces, one is onboard the > other 2 interfaces should be a dual ethernet card. > > Do you have any experience with this kind of interface, which one > (brand/model) is know to be working fine under FreeBSD. > I've had good experiences with Intel PRO/100 S nics. (It'll get even better as FreeBSD gets support for the hardware encryption in the nics.) I have a couple of 2U servers with them and they have run without any nic related problems. -- Randy Smith Amigo.Net Systems Administrator 1-719-589-6100 x 4185 http://www.amigo.net/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 09:10:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C1F37B409 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 09:10:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from visi.gothic.net.au (visi.gothic.net.au [202.182.69.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9038743F93 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 09:10:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@gothic.net.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visi.gothic.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BF2A6B5C; Sat, 10 May 2003 02:10:36 +1000 (EST) Received: from dhcp191.private.gothic.net.au (pvc.gothic.net.au [202.182.72.23]) by visi.gothic.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE70A6AA1; Sat, 10 May 2003 02:10:30 +1000 (EST) From: Sean Winn To: "Troy Settle" , "'Nielsen'" , "'Jeremy Springer'" , Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 02:10:29 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <000601c315b9$ee795d10$aa8ffea9@abyss> In-Reply-To: <000601c315b9$ee795d10$aa8ffea9@abyss> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305100210.29058.sean@gothic.net.au> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-36.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL autolearn=ham version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 Subject: Re: Frontpage *ahem* woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 16:10:42 -0000 On Fri, 9 May 2003 09:31 am, Troy Settle wrote: > I should have been more clear... > > I did get the apache/ssl/fp combo to work, but what I ran into, was that > every FP web had to run as the same user, which is/was not desirable. > > It all comes down to getting suexec/fpexec/etc to all play nice > together, and I was unable to come up with the magic formula to get it > done. > Which mod_frontpage module were you trying? /usr/ports/www/mod_frontpage has ap_cleanup_for_exec (); suexec_saved_val = ap_suexec_enabled; ap_suexec_enabled = FALSE; child_pid = ap_call_exec (r, pinfo, argv0, env, 0); ap_suexec_enabled = suexec_saved_val; Which explicitly disabled suexec for the frontpage helper execution, so it works fine with suexec. /usr/ports/www/apache13-fp has a mod_frontpage.c that looks like it fudges the normal CGI call path, so that it just does a normal CGI run of the frontpage helper.... that doesn't give an opportunity to disable suexec, so probably won't work with it. /usr/ports/www/mod_frontpage is too trusting of environment variables though, and if there's any other ways of running a binary as the web server, it's a security problem as it's written...even the Makefile says as much. > -- > Troy Settle > Pulaski Networks > http://www.psknet.com > 540.994.4254 ~ 866.477.5638 > Pulaski Chamber 2002 Small Business Of The Year > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nielsen [mailto:nielsen@memberwebs.com] > > Sent: None > > To: Troy Settle; 'Jeremy Springer'; freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Frontpage *ahem* woes > > > > > > Here's something I came up with: > > > > http://memberwebs.com/nielsen/unix/docs/frontpage.html > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Troy Settle" > > To: "'Jeremy Springer'" ; > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 12:48 > > Subject: RE: Frontpage *ahem* woes > > > > > > > > After weeks and months of putzing around with that same combo, I > > finally > > gave up. Since I had no sites requireing SSL, I simply pulled support > > for it. > > > > The problem, as near as I can tell, is a conflict between suexec and > > fpexec. It's something I've not been able to resolve (even after > > pouring over patches used in the apache13-fp port). > > > > I still maintain that it would be nice to have a SINGLE apache port > > with > > options for whatever the user wants (similar to how the PHP port let's > > you select which modules to add support for). > > > > -- > > Troy Settle > > Pulaski Networks > > http://www.psknet.com > > 540.994.4254 - 866.477.5638 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Springer > > > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:46 PM > > > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Frontpage *ahem* woes > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > I am having a real booger of a time getting FrontPage 2002 > > > extensions re-installed from ports after upgrading my server > > > to FreeBSD 4.8. I am trying for something like > > > Apache+mod_ssl+mod_php4+mysql+frontpage2002 and can't seem to > > > find any how-to... Has anyone had any reproducible > > > experience/luck in this department? Can someone point me to > > > a good recent FAQ or tutorial? > > > > > > Thanks team :) > > > > > > Jeremy Springer > > > Webmaster > > > http://www.fantasylords.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 11:15:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A26537B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 11:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kosh.oneofum.net (mail.oneofum.net [66.11.163.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33BF43F93 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 11:15:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gunkel@oneofum.net) Received: by kosh.oneofum.net (Postfix, from userid 2001) id D2553DC872; Fri, 9 May 2003 14:15:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kosh.oneofum.net (kosh.oneofum.net [66.11.163.245]) by kosh.oneofum.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0DC8CDC84D for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 14:15:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 198.151.13.15 (SquirrelMail authenticated user gunkel) by mail.oneofum.net with HTTP; Fri, 9 May 2003 14:15:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <61873.198.151.13.15.1052504139.squirrel@mail.oneofum.net> Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 14:15:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Alvin Gunkel" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,PRIORITY_NO_NAME,USER_AGENT version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Motherboard Recomendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 18:15:10 -0000 I've got a colocated system running 4.7 that's got a pretty flakey motherboard. I've already moved off the built-in nic because it would randomly stop transmitting, and now I'm getting random resets. The provider is willing to swap out the mobo for me, but the case is 2U, limiting me to 3 pci slots. I currently have PC133 ram, but that can be swapped if needed. The server handles a fair amount of traffic so a decent chipset is a must. What are you running that has been rock solid? Any suggestions? Thanks, Alvin From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 11:54:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1551337B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 11:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kosh.oneofum.net (mail.oneofum.net [66.11.163.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6226243FB1 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 11:54:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gunkel@oneofum.net) Received: by kosh.oneofum.net (Postfix, from userid 2001) id DB12ADC872; Fri, 9 May 2003 14:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kosh.oneofum.net (kosh.oneofum.net [66.11.163.245]) by kosh.oneofum.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 66E36DC84D for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 14:55:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 198.151.13.15 (SquirrelMail authenticated user gunkel) by mail.oneofum.net with HTTP; Fri, 9 May 2003 14:55:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55408.198.151.13.15.1052506520.squirrel@mail.oneofum.net> In-Reply-To: <61873.198.151.13.15.1052504139.squirrel@mail.oneofum.net> References: <61873.198.151.13.15.1052504139.squirrel@mail.oneofum.net> Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 14:55:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Alvin Gunkel" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-19.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,PRIORITY_NO_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Re: Motherboard Recomendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 18:54:48 -0000 Great, that's what I get for editing the first draft! The system has an Athlon XP 1900 processor in it, so the new motherboard would need to support that. Alvin > I've got a colocated system running 4.7 that's got a pretty flakey > motherboard. I've already moved off the built-in nic because it would > randomly stop transmitting, and now I'm getting random resets. The > provider is willing to swap out the mobo for me, but the case is 2U, > limiting me to 3 pci slots. I currently have PC133 ram, but that can be > swapped if needed. The server handles a fair amount of traffic so a > decent chipset is a must. What are you running that has been rock solid? > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Alvin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 14:09:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB9237B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 14:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.catspoiler.org (217-ip-163.nccn.net [209.79.217.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E1143F3F for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 14:09:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (mousie.catspoiler.org [192.168.101.2]) by gw.catspoiler.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h49L9dM7038788; Fri, 9 May 2003 14:09:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200305092109.h49L9dM7038788@gw.catspoiler.org> Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 14:09:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis To: randys@amigo.net In-Reply-To: <20030509092459.U1529-100000@stalker.amigo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org cc: dpageau@infodev.ca Subject: Re: Dual ethernet card X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 21:09:51 -0000 On 9 May, Randy Smith wrote: > On Fri, 9 May 2003, D.Pageau wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 11:07:29 -0400 >> From: D.Pageau >> To: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" >> Subject: Dual ethernet card >> >> I have a FreeBSD box in 1U Rackmount case, I only have one PCI slot >> availaible (1U) and I need 3 Ethernet interfaces, one is onboard the >> other 2 interfaces should be a dual ethernet card. >> >> Do you have any experience with this kind of interface, which one >> (brand/model) is know to be working fine under FreeBSD. >> > > I've had good experiences with Intel PRO/100 S nics. (It'll get even > better as FreeBSD gets support for the hardware encryption in the nics.) I > have a couple of 2U servers with them and they have run without any nic > related problems. I wish I could say the same. I've got two of these and they have problems when used with recent versions of the fxp driver in -current. Packets of certain sizes get truncated. It is possible to test for the problem by doing ping -c 216 anotherhost ping -c 1696 anotherhost ping -c 3176 anotherhost ping -c 4656 anotherhost My cards work fine until I get to size 3176, but I've seen a report from someone who had problems with all of the above packet sizes. It's fairly easy to get things working again by a simple patch to the driver, but that disables the newer features on these cards. My cards also have a problem at initial power up. When the box is first powered up the cards are not visible to either the BIOS or to FreeBSD. They aren't even visible to Intel's DOS-based diagnostic .exe program. Hitting the reset switch during the boot or logging onto the console and rebooting will fix the problem until the next time the system is powered down. The problem happens in two different systems, one is Celeron-based, and the other is an AMD Athlon-XP. The cards are IBM OEM numbered and I got them fairly cheap, so I don't know if there's anything funny about that particular flavor. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 16:24:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F8D37B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 16:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.openserve.net (mail.openserve.net [208.12.101.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8245343F93 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 16:24:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd@hub3.net) Received: (qmail 83931 invoked from network); 9 May 2003 23:24:46 -0000 Received: from gw.hub3.net (HELO hub3.net) (bryan@208.12.101.245) by mail.openserve.net with SMTP; 9 May 2003 23:24:46 -0000 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 16:24:47 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Bryan Vyhmeister To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <200305092109.h49L9dM7038788@gw.catspoiler.org> Message-Id: <6CA1AAAC-8275-11D7-9641-000393D5E5DA@hub3.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Subject: Re: Dual ethernet card X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 23:24:48 -0000 On Friday, May 9, 2003, at 02:09 PM, Don Lewis wrote: > On 9 May, Randy Smith wrote: >> On Fri, 9 May 2003, D.Pageau wrote: >> >>> Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 11:07:29 -0400 >>> From: D.Pageau >>> To: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" >>> Subject: Dual ethernet card >>> >>> I have a FreeBSD box in 1U Rackmount case, I only have one PCI slot >>> availaible (1U) and I need 3 Ethernet interfaces, one is onboard the >>> other 2 interfaces should be a dual ethernet card. >>> >>> Do you have any experience with this kind of interface, which one >>> (brand/model) is know to be working fine under FreeBSD. >>> >> >> I've had good experiences with Intel PRO/100 S nics. (It'll get even >> better as FreeBSD gets support for the hardware encryption in the >> nics.) I >> have a couple of 2U servers with them and they have run without any >> nic >> related problems. > > I wish I could say the same. I've got two of these and they have > problems when used with recent versions of the fxp driver in -current. > Packets of certain sizes get truncated. It is possible to test for the > problem by doing > ping -c 216 anotherhost > ping -c 1696 anotherhost > ping -c 3176 anotherhost > ping -c 4656 anotherhost > My cards work fine until I get to size 3176, but I've seen a report > from > someone who had problems with all of the above packet sizes. It's > fairly easy to get things working again by a simple patch to the > driver, > but that disables the newer features on these cards. > > My cards also have a problem at initial power up. When the box is > first > powered up the cards are not visible to either the BIOS or to FreeBSD. > They aren't even visible to Intel's DOS-based diagnostic .exe program. > Hitting the reset switch during the boot or logging onto the console > and > rebooting will fix the problem until the next time the system is > powered > down. The problem happens in two different systems, one is > Celeron-based, and the other is an AMD Athlon-XP. The cards are IBM > OEM > numbered and I got them fairly cheap, so I don't know if there's > anything funny about that particular flavor. Interesting. I have been using lots of Intel cards and I have never had any problems of any kind. All of my cards are either onboard on Intel motherboards or Intel brand cards. I have also been using the Intel 10BT/100BTX PILA8472C3 PRO/100 S Dual Port server adapter. It has worked very well also. The machine with the dual port card is my firewall for my whole network and has been running rock solid for a long time. I have not used them with anything past 5.0 though. I tried all four ping combinations and they all work fine on the cards I tried. Bryan From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 18:03:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7629637B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 18:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aurora.siteplus.com (aurora.siteplus.com [66.129.2.160]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F9043F85 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 18:03:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@jwweeks.com) Received: from veager.jwweeks.com (pcp03144169pcs.midval01.tn.comcast.net [68.59.246.106]) by aurora.siteplus.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4A13EuU033534; Fri, 9 May 2003 21:03:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@jwweeks.com) Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 21:01:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Troy Settle In-Reply-To: <000601c315b9$ee795d10$aa8ffea9@abyss> Message-ID: <20030509204619.G18208-100000@veager.jwweeks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: 'Jeremy Springer' Subject: RE: Frontpage *ahem* woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 01:03:13 -0000 On Thu, 8 May 2003, Troy Settle wrote: > > I should have been more clear... > > I did get the apache/ssl/fp combo to work, but what I ran into, was that > every FP web had to run as the same user, which is/was not desirable. > > It all comes down to getting suexec/fpexec/etc to all play nice > together, and I was unable to come up with the magic formula to get it > done. My work around for this problem has been to maintain a sub-domain DNS record and two apache directives, one for publishing and one for serving. Something like: DocumentRoot /usr/local/www/data/username/ ServerName domain.com ServerAdmin webmaster@domain.com ServerAlias www.domain.com ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/local/www/data/username/cgi-bin/ User username Group username ErrorLog /usr/log/domain.com-error_log TransferLog /usr/log/domain.com-access_log DocumentRoot /usr/local/www/data/username/ ServerName publish.domain.com ServerAdmin them@domain.com This requires copying domain.com:80.cnf to publish.domain.com:80.cnf. Maybe this will work for you. -- Jim From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 21:31:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7AA37B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 21:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.catspoiler.org (217-ip-163.nccn.net [209.79.217.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA2A43FEA for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 21:31:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (mousie.catspoiler.org [192.168.101.2]) by gw.catspoiler.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4A4UwM7039430; Fri, 9 May 2003 21:31:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200305100431.h4A4UwM7039430@gw.catspoiler.org> Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 21:30:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis To: bsd@hub3.net In-Reply-To: <6CA1AAAC-8275-11D7-9641-000393D5E5DA@hub3.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Dual ethernet card X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 04:31:10 -0000 On 9 May, Bryan Vyhmeister wrote: > Interesting. I have been using lots of Intel cards and I have never had > any problems of any kind. All of my cards are either onboard on Intel > motherboards or Intel brand cards. I have also been using the Intel > 10BT/100BTX PILA8472C3 PRO/100 S Dual Port server adapter. It has > worked very well also. The machine with the dual port card is my > firewall for my whole network and has been running rock solid for a > long time. I have not used them with anything past 5.0 though. I tried > all four ping combinations and they all work fine on the cards I tried. The packet size problem doesn't show up until rev 1.148 of the fxp driver, which was committed on February 26th. My cards are the PILA8460C3 version, and have an IBM sticker saying these are "Intel (R) Pro/100S Desktop Adapter". The Intel web site confirms that the number on the barcode sticker is for an IBM OEM card. The chip is an 82550GY, and "pciconf -l" probes this card as: fxp0@pci0:10:0: class=0x020000 card=0x00508086 chip=0x12298086 rev=0x0d hdr=0x00 I've got a couple Asus P2B-LS motherboards with onboard fxp interfaces, and at least one other fxp PCI card of an older vintage, and those have all worked flawlessly. It's just these two new cards that have been a problem. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 00:38:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AD837B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 00:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [207.200.153.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2654543F3F for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 00:38:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 19ENM0-00001s-00; Fri, 9 May 2003 22:57:04 -0700 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 22:56:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: Alvin Gunkel In-Reply-To: <55408.198.151.13.15.1052506520.squirrel@mail.oneofum.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Motherboard Recomendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 07:38:46 -0000 On Fri, 9 May 2003, Alvin Gunkel wrote: > Great, that's what I get for editing the first draft! The system has an > Athlon XP 1900 processor in it, so the new motherboard would need to > support that. > > Alvin Well, get a ASUS or Tyan motherboard. ASUS has a nice one based on the NVIDIA chipset (nForce2?). Try to find something that can use ECC memory. Your RAM could be bad, and your motherboard is fine, but since you aren't using ECC, you wouldn't know. Riser cards are quite a problem too. I would try to get as much stuff on-board as possible. Riser card problems cause all sorts of random problems like corrupted video, and page faults. Tom From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 18:11:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCEF37B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 18:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.catspoiler.org (217-ip-163.nccn.net [209.79.217.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CF743FAF for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 18:11:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (mousie.catspoiler.org [192.168.101.2]) by gw.catspoiler.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4B1AwM7043947; Sat, 10 May 2003 18:11:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200305110111.h4B1AwM7043947@gw.catspoiler.org> Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 18:10:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis To: tom@sdf.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Motherboard Recomendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 01:11:13 -0000 On 9 May, Tom Samplonius wrote: > > On Fri, 9 May 2003, Alvin Gunkel wrote: > >> Great, that's what I get for editing the first draft! The system has an >> Athlon XP 1900 processor in it, so the new motherboard would need to >> support that. >> >> Alvin > > > Well, get a ASUS or Tyan motherboard. ASUS has a nice one based on the > NVIDIA chipset (nForce2?). Try to find something that can use ECC memory. > Your RAM could be bad, and your motherboard is fine, but since you aren't > using ECC, you wouldn't know. Athlon motherboards that support ECC RAM are very rare. The VIA chipsets that most of them use is supposed to support ECC, but none of the motherboards that I've found that use the VIA chipsets support ECC. I'm not sure if the problem is that the BIOS writers never added support or if the motherboard vendors ommitted the necessary board traces, or if there are problems with the implementation in this chipset. The only motherboards that I've found with ECC RAM support are based on the AMD 760, which is getting a bit dated. One motherboard that I've been happy with is the Gigabyte GA7-DX+ (GA7-DXR+ if you want onboard RAID and a few extra goodies). It'll take up PC-2100 RAM and is fairly inexpensive.