From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 19:42:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F0F16A4CE for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:42:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordrede.visionsix.com (mordrede.visionsix.com [65.202.119.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EAA743FD7 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:42:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@visionsix.com) Received: from vsis169 (unverified [65.202.119.169]) by mordrede.visionsix.com for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:42:46 -0600 Message-ID: <000801c3b7bd$2eb54740$df0a0a0a@visionsix.net> From: "Lewis Watson" To: Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:42:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Moving to New Server.. Passwd Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 03:42:50 -0000 I am moving to a new server and trying to maintain user,uid, and gid info. I have the entire /etc directory tar'd and am wondering when I get to the new server what I need as far as to maintain the user info files. I am thinking passwd, master.passwd, and group. After I move these files I run pwd_mkdb - p /etc/master.passwd. Is there any need to copy spwd.db and pwd.db? If I understand it correctly these will be created/updated when I run pwd_mkdb. Also, is there a better way to sync these files from one server to another? Thanks, Lewis From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 19:52:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5097816A4CE for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:52:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.vonostingroup.com (ip209-154.digitalrealm.net [216.144.209.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DDE643F3F for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:52:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from laszlof@vonostingroup.com) Received: (qmail 8028 invoked by uid 89); 1 Dec 2003 03:57:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vonostingroup.com) (laszlof@68.62.82.158) by ip209-154.digitalrealm.net with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 03:57:16 -0000 Message-ID: <3FCABADF.5090001@vonostingroup.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:51:59 -0500 From: Frank Laszlo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030821 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lewis Watson References: <000801c3b7bd$2eb54740$df0a0a0a@visionsix.net> In-Reply-To: <000801c3b7bd$2eb54740$df0a0a0a@visionsix.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.76.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moving to New Server.. Passwd Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 03:52:11 -0000 Lewis Watson wrote: >I am moving to a new server and trying to maintain user,uid, and gid info. >I have the entire /etc directory tar'd and am wondering when I get to the >new server what I need as far as to maintain the user info files. I am >thinking passwd, master.passwd, and group. After I move these files I run >pwd_mkdb - p /etc/master.passwd. Is there any need to copy spwd.db and >pwd.db? If I understand it correctly these will be created/updated when I >run pwd_mkdb. > >Also, is there a better way to sync these files from one server to >another? >Thanks, >Lewis > > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > You could use dd to mirror the disks. Thats assuming you want to copy everything. -Frank From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 19:58:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A743016A4CE for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordrede.visionsix.com (mordrede.visionsix.com [65.202.119.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD6043FB1 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:58:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@visionsix.com) Received: from vsis169 (unverified [65.202.119.169]) by mordrede.visionsix.com for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:58:11 -0600 Message-ID: <001801c3b7bf$5654f230$df0a0a0a@visionsix.net> From: "Lewis Watson" To: References: <000801c3b7bd$2eb54740$df0a0a0a@visionsix.net> <3FCABADF.5090001@vonostingroup.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:58:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: Moving to New Server.. Passwd Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 03:58:13 -0000 > > You could use dd to mirror the disks. Thats assuming you want to copy > everything. > Hi Frank, I really just want the user, uid, and gid stuff. Thanks, Lewis From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 20:00:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0091E16A4CE for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:00:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp3.sentex.ca (smtp3.sentex.ca [64.7.153.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C05D43F75 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:00:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from damian@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smtp3.sentex.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB140exT096428; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:00:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from damian@sentex.net) Received: from pegmatite.sentex.ca (pegmatite.sentex.ca [192.168.42.92]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB140eUq075821; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:00:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from damian@sentex.net) Received: by pegmatite.sentex.ca (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7F20C171D9; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:00:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:00:29 -0500 From: Damian Gerow To: Frank Laszlo Message-ID: <20031201040029.GB51594@sentex.net> Mail-Followup-To: Frank Laszlo , Lewis Watson , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <000801c3b7bd$2eb54740$df0a0a0a@visionsix.net> <3FCABADF.5090001@vonostingroup.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FCABADF.5090001@vonostingroup.com> X-GPG-Key-Id: 0xB841F142 X-GPG-Fingerprint: C7C1 E1D1 EC06 7C86 AF7C 57E6 173D 9CF6 B841 F142 X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moving to New Server.. Passwd Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 04:00:48 -0000 (Quoting cleaned up.) Thus spake Frank Laszlo (laszlof@vonostingroup.com) [30/11/03 22:52]: > Lewis Watson wrote: > > >I am moving to a new server and trying to maintain user,uid, and gid info. > >I have the entire /etc directory tar'd and am wondering when I get to the > >new server what I need as far as to maintain the user info files. I am > >thinking passwd, master.passwd, and group. After I move these files I run > >pwd_mkdb - p /etc/master.passwd. Is there any need to copy spwd.db and > >pwd.db? If I understand it correctly these will be created/updated when I > >run pwd_mkdb. > > > >Also, is there a better way to sync these files from one server to > >another? > > You could use dd to mirror the disks. Thats assuming you want to copy > everything. Having moved, and participated in moving, a number of servers, we've always used dump/restore to move files over. I tried rsync once, and it works just fine *so long as you don't need to maintain the last access time* on the files you're rsync'ing. Depending on the partitions that need to be moved over (i.e. if /var/mail is mounted on its own), it can be easier to pop the old drive into the new system, and do a 'dump -0af - | restore -rf -' in the directory you want to restore into. In the case where you just want *some* of the files moved over, however, chances are rsync might be your best option. Although a 'restore -if ' would work just as well. Note that CVS would work as well, I just haven't ever used it for this. Getting back to the original question, yes. If *all* you want to maintain is userid<->username, groupid<->groupname mappings (and user passwords), then that should be all you need. But you'll also need home directories, and limits you've put in place, and any other custom configuration you'll want to copy over. - Damian From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 20:21:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7938116A4CE for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordrede.visionsix.com (mordrede.visionsix.com [65.202.119.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5B043F75 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:21:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@visionsix.com) Received: from vsis169 (unverified [65.202.119.169]) by mordrede.visionsix.com for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:21:41 -0600 Message-ID: <003801c3b7c2$9eb0a120$df0a0a0a@visionsix.net> From: "Lewis Watson" To: References: <000801c3b7bd$2eb54740$df0a0a0a@visionsix.net> <3FCABADF.5090001@vonostingroup.com> <20031201040029.GB51594@sentex.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:21:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: Moving to New Server.. Passwd Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 04:21:43 -0000 > Getting back to the original question, yes. If *all* you want to maintain > is userid<->username, groupid<->groupname mappings (and user passwords), > then that should be all you need. But you'll also need home directories, > and limits you've put in place, and any other custom configuration you'll > want to copy over. > Hi Damian, Thanks for the ideas on the other stuff, I am always looking for new ideas and your post has certainly gave me several. I currently use Amanda for backing up several directories, including /home, custom scripts, configs, etc etc :-) I did try rsync ( I just never got comfortable with it I guess) for a short while myself but found that I like my tape backups. Also, I like the idea of just moving the drive(s) over, this is really sounds good for /home especially. That would make it easy to bring a new server online and with the tape we also have a backup to go with it in the event of a failure that knocks out the hard drives (Using raid 1) Thanks for the help with the question too, I wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing something :-) Lewis From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 21:44:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE0E16A4CE for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:44:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D06643F93 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:44:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.24 #1 (FreeBSD 4.9)) id 1AQgqu-000LI7-Uu by authid ; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 08:44:08 +0300 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:44:08 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: Simon Message-ID: <20031201054408.GD15705@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , Simon , FBSD-ISP References: <20031129121911.GA41923@ns2.wananchi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="ncSAzJYg3Aa9+CRW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message,where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. 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Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:36:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp3.sentex.ca (smtp3.sentex.ca [64.7.153.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFFD43F3F for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:36:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from damian@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smtp3.sentex.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB1Ka0xT003673 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:36:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from damian@sentex.net) Received: from pegmatite.sentex.ca (pegmatite.sentex.ca [192.168.42.92]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB1Ka4Uq082641 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:36:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from damian@sentex.net) Received: by pegmatite.sentex.ca (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D300217195; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:35:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:35:52 -0500 From: Damian Gerow To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031201203552.GZ13813@sentex.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <000801c3b7bd$2eb54740$df0a0a0a@visionsix.net> <3FCABADF.5090001@vonostingroup.com> <20031201040029.GB51594@sentex.net> <003801c3b7c2$9eb0a120$df0a0a0a@visionsix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <003801c3b7c2$9eb0a120$df0a0a0a@visionsix.net> X-GPG-Key-Id: 0xB841F142 X-GPG-Fingerprint: C7C1 E1D1 EC06 7C86 AF7C 57E6 173D 9CF6 B841 F142 X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: Re: Moving to New Server.. Passwd Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:36:07 -0000 Thus spake Lewis Watson (lists@visionsix.com) [30/11/03 23:22]: > Thanks for the ideas on the other stuff, I am always looking for new ideas > and your post has certainly gave me several. I currently use Amanda for > backing up several directories, including /home, custom scripts, configs, > etc etc :-) If you're already using Amanda, you can just use your backups to 'restore' on to the new drive. > I did try rsync ( I just never got comfortable with it I guess) for a > short while myself but found that I like my tape backups. Also, I like the > idea of just moving the drive(s) over, this is really sounds good for > /home especially. That would make it easy to bring a new server online and > with the tape we also have a backup to go with it in the event of a > failure that knocks out the hard drives (Using raid 1) One thing that I forgot to mention about using dd -- it's a bad idea to use, unless the source and destination drives are *exactly* the same size. Because you're doing a bitwise copy of the drive, you can potentially wind up throwing things off. Not to mention that it does a bit-to-bit copy of *every* bit, whereas dump|restore only nabs the files that actually exist. > Thanks for the help with the question too, I wanted to make sure that I > wasn't missing something :-) Looks like you've got everything you need, to keep usernames and groups around. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 21:59:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C23C16A4CE for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:59:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.time-on.com (neptune.tcrs.com.au [202.182.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADFF43F3F for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:59:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd@time-on.com) Received: from time-on.com (neptune.tcrs.com.au [202.182.128.9]) by smtp.time-on.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id hB260tA11490 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:00:55 +1100 (EST) From: "bsd_tech" Sender: bsd@time-on.com To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:59:15 +1100 X-Mailer: CWMail Web to Mail Gateway 2.8a, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <3fcc2a97.2cde.0@time-on.com> X-User-Info: 211.30.116.180 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sendmail using phpmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bsd@time-on.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 05:59:19 -0000 I hope someone can help me over come this problem I am have when ever a web user sends Email via a from in php the mail goes nowhere. This problem is on a Freebsd V5.1 box. At first the error message was that it could not write to the queue so I chown /var/spool/clientmqueue/ to 775 now I get sendmail complaining about dangerous permissions=40775 on /var/spool/clientmqueue/ but the email is still not sent and i get a mail log like so Dec 2 13:38:27 atlas sendmail[1044]: dangerous prmissions=40775 on queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ Dec 2 13:38:27 atlas sendmail[1044]: hB22cRbw001044: from=www, size=425, class=0, nrcpts=0,msgid=<200312020238.hB22cRbw001044@atlas.xxx.com>, relay=www@localhost Dec 2 13:38:27 atlas sendmail[1046]:dangerous permissions=40775 on queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ Dec 2 13:38:27 atlas sendmail[1046]: hB22cRuU001046: from=www, size=465, class=0, nrcpts=0,msgid=<200312020238.hB22cRuU001046@atlas.xxx.com>, relay=www@localhost http://netwinsite.com/dbabble/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 10:24:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB3216A4CE for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:24:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.heronetwork.com (mail.heronetwork.com [216.254.62.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F3543FA3 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:24:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swenson@heronetwork.com) Received: by mx1.heronetwork.com (Postfix, from userid 1003) id A5122A5EAC; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:23:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from heronetwork.com (ON-01-FW.heronetwork.com [216.254.62.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.heronetwork.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A963A597E; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:23:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FCCD890.6010205@heronetwork.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:23:12 -0800 From: Scottie Swenson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bsd@time-on.com References: <3fcc2a97.2cde.0@time-on.com> In-Reply-To: <3fcc2a97.2cde.0@time-on.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=8.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_UNTITLED autolearn=no version=2.60 cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail using phpmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:24:26 -0000 Greetings, We host a lot of virtual domain web sites on BSD boxes that are running PHP forms and sending out tons of email. Sometimes PHP doesn't figure out the right path for the sendmail program. So your first check is to make sure PHP is using sendmail correctly for your particular box. The builting phpinfo() command puts out a nice summary of your php build including all the build options. You need to make sure PHP was compiled with the correct path to sendmail. A php check web page: ----- cut here ----- ----- cut here ----- In the CORE PHP configuration section look for the setting 'sendmail_path'. Ours is set to '/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i' You can test to see if PHP can send email using the code I included bellow. Given that PHP can send email phpmail should start working. I am not sure how phpmail handles the mail but we have found email works a LOT better if some extra header information is included. Here is the PHP code you can use to check to see if PHP is able send messages from a functioning email form on a BSD box: email.php: ----- cut here ----- "; if ( $_POST[ "cc_me" ] == "on" ) { $_ccEmailAddress = $_from; } $message = "\n\nName: " . $name . "\n"; $message .= "Email: " . $_from . "\n"; $message .= "Phone Number: " . $phone . "\n"; $message .= "\nMessage: " . $_comments . 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----- cut here ----- Cheers, Scottie From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 15:17:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA7E16A4CE for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:17:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.time-on.com (neptune.tcrs.com.au [202.182.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31CB743FCB for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:17:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd@time-on.com) Received: from time-on.com (neptune.tcrs.com.au [202.182.128.9]) by smtp.time-on.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id hB2NJEA15889; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:19:15 +1100 (EST) From: "bsd_tech" Sender: bsd@time-on.com To: swenson@heronetwork.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:17:33 +1100 X-Mailer: CWMail Web to Mail Gateway 2.8a, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <3fcd1df3.3e0d.0@time-on.com> X-User-Info: 211.30.116.180 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: sendmail using phpmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bsd@time-on.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 23:17:56 -0000 Thank you all for your help I now have found the problem and it is now working >Greetings, > >We host a lot of virtual domain web sites on BSD boxes that are running PHP >forms and sending out tons of email. Sometimes PHP doesn't figure out the right >path for the sendmail program. So your first check is to make sure PHP is using >sendmail correctly for your particular box. The builting phpinfo() command puts >out a nice summary of your php build including all the build options. You need >to make sure PHP was compiled with the correct path to sendmail. > >A php check web page: >----- cut here ----- > >----- cut here ----- > >In the CORE PHP configuration section look for the setting 'sendmail_path'. >Ours is set to '/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i' > >You can test to see if PHP can send email using the code I included bellow. >Given that PHP can send email phpmail should start working. > >I am not sure how phpmail handles the mail but we have found email works a LOT >better if some extra header information is included. Here is the PHP code you >can use to check to see if PHP is able send messages from a functioning email >form on a BSD box: > >email.php: >----- cut here ----- > $_toEmailAddress = "info@somedomain.com"; > $_ccEmailAddress = ""; > //$_bccEmailAddress = "alternate@destination.com"; > > $_subject = $_POST[ "subject" ]; > $_comments = $_POST[ "message" ]; > $phone = $_POST[ "phoneNumber" ]; > $name = $_POST[ "name" ]; > $_from = "\"$name\" <" . $_POST[ "email" ] . ">"; > > if ( $_POST[ "cc_me" ] == "on" ) { > $_ccEmailAddress = $_from; > } > > $message = "\n\nName: " . $name . "\n"; > $message .= "Email: " . $_from . "\n"; > $message .= "Phone Number: " . $phone . "\n"; > $message .= "\nMessage: " . $_comments . "\n\n"; > > $_headers = ""; > //$_headers .= "MIME-Version: 1.0\r\n"; > //$_headers .= "Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1\r\n"; > $_headers .= "From: $_from\r\n"; > //$_headers .= "To: ".$_toEmailAddress."\r\n"; > if (! empty($_bccEmailAddress) ) { > $_headers .= "BCC: ".$_bccEmailAddress."\r\n"; > } > if (! empty($_ccEmailAddress) ) { > $_headers .= "CC: ".$_ccEmailAddress."\r\n"; > } > $_headers .= "Reply-To: $_from\r\n"; > $_headers .= "X-Priority: 1\r\n"; > $_headers .= "X-MSMail-Priority: High\r\n"; > $_headers .= "X-Mailer: Hero Network Email System"; > > $mailresponse = mail("$_toEmailAddress", > "$_subject", > "$message", > $_headers > ); >?> >----- cut here ----- > >email_form.html >----- cut here ----- > > > > > Untitled > > > >
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> > >----- cut here ----- > >Cheers, >Scottie > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > http://netwinsite.com/dbabble/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 15:24:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9168016A4CE for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:24:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from icoremail.ece.ualberta.ca (rumba.ee.ualberta.ca [129.128.213.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BD143FAF for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:24:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cdjones@novusordo.net) Received: from novusordo.net (ballet.ee.ualberta.ca [129.128.213.15]) by icoremail.ece.ualberta.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938FA92D82 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:24:32 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3FCE70B0.9060709@novusordo.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 16:24:32 -0700 From: Chris Jones User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030703 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: jailer in 4.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:24:39 -0000 The jailer command from ports (sysutils/jailer) is very useful for running stuff like webservers under user control. Unfortunately, the version in ports doesn't seem to work with 4.9: I get an error claiming that jailer couldn't determine whether it was in a jail ("Could not determine jailed status."). Has anyone been able to get jailer working under 4.9? Did the jail system change between 4.8 and 4.9? Cheers, Chris From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 15:47:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83EF16A4CE for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:47:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from p15132415.pureserver.info (henrik-motakef.de [217.160.170.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6580243FB1 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:47:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hmot@henrik-motakef.de) Received: from pokey.internal.henrik-motakef.de (dsl-213-023-209-085.arcor-ip.net [213.23.209.85]) by p15132415.pureserver.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3488387FA8; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:47:14 +0100 (CET) Received: by pokey.internal.henrik-motakef.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 36AB460D2; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:50:33 +0100 (CET) To: Chris Jones References: <3FCE70B0.9060709@novusordo.net> From: Henrik Motakef Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 00:50:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: <3FCE70B0.9060709@novusordo.net> (Chris Jones's message of "Wed, 03 Dec 2003 16:24:32 -0700") Message-ID: <86zne9zcjb.fsf@pokey.internal.henrik-motakef.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jailer in 4.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:47:21 -0000 Chris Jones writes: > The jailer command from ports (sysutils/jailer) is very useful for > running stuff like webservers under user control. Unfortunately, the > version in ports doesn't seem to work with 4.9: I get an error > claiming that jailer couldn't determine whether it was in a jail > ("Could not determine jailed status."). > > Has anyone been able to get jailer working under 4.9? Did the jail > system change between 4.8 and 4.9? Coincidentally, I just set up a fresh 4.9-RELEASE-p1 using jailer 1.1.2, and it seems to work fine so far. The jailer homepage says "When upgrading from FreeBSD 4.x to 4.8 or 4.x to 5.x you'll need to rebuild jailer and reinstall it in your jails.", maybe this is the problem? From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 06:44:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDA516A4CE for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:44:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033A343FCB for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:44:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.24 #1 (FreeBSD 4.9)) id 1ASHBh-0005IY-NK by authid ; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:44:09 +0300 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:44:09 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: Adam Maloney Message-ID: <20031205144409.GF69869@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , Adam Maloney , Jim Pazarena , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <3FA69CE5.8000501@qcislands.net> <1067886466.14472.86.camel@unixws1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="VdOwlNaOFKGAtAAV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1067886466.14472.86.camel@unixws1> X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message,where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.4i (2003-03-19) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: Jim Pazarena Subject: Re: web mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:44:24 -0000 --VdOwlNaOFKGAtAAV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Adam Maloney [20031103 22:16]: wrote: > openwebmail (openwebmail.org) - it's the swiss-army of webmails, and is > a port. Got it running very painlessly, and it does pretty much > everything. Haven't played with much else, but as soon as I found OWM I > haven't had the need to look at any of the other ones. Hello Friends, Let me take Adam on this ;) And you by extension. I tried openwebmail today. It was very difficult to get running under a virtualhost in apache. Perhaps I missed some point but even as we speak, I still believe something is not right with the setup. http://owm.wananchi.com. The login window looks very nice, but I haven't managed to get it to authenticate a user at all. Why? Because I am still not sure. I think I will need a whole night (w/o interferences) to do that. Those who have used it may help me though. I am moving towards a complete virtual setup where all users are in a MySQL database. What I would like to know (which I so far doubt) is whether openwebmail can authenticate using encrypted passwords (md5 - same as those we have in master.passwd) from the DB. My setup stores mail in /var/spool/virtual/$domain/$user/Maildir/. Is openwebmail ever capable of reading the mail from this path, leave alone from /home/$user/Maildir ($HOME/Maildir)?? Can it accept virtual user logins (user@domains)?? Or perhaps I can use PAM, with pam_mysql?? I'd very much appreciate any pointers. The webforum for OWM is not the best that I have ever seen. I like Mailman-like forums, not one like the owm one;) -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+ The USA is so enormous, and so numerous are its schools, colleges and religious seminaries, many devoted to special religious beliefs ranging =66rom the unorthodox to the dotty, that we can hardly wonder at its yielding a more bounteous harvest of gobbledygook than the rest of the world put together. -- Sir Peter Medawar --VdOwlNaOFKGAtAAV Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Content-Disposition: attachment; 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Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:48:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from otter3.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD3843FF2 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:48:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from centtech.com (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id hB5Em06T086811; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:48:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <3FD09A8C.2060509@centtech.com> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 08:47:40 -0600 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Odhiambo Washington References: <3FA69CE5.8000501@qcislands.net> <1067886466.14472.86.camel@unixws1> <20031205144409.GF69869@ns2.wananchi.com> In-Reply-To: <20031205144409.GF69869@ns2.wananchi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: Jim Pazarena Subject: Re: web mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:48:02 -0000 Odhiambo Washington wrote: >* Adam Maloney [20031103 22:16]: wrote: > > >>openwebmail (openwebmail.org) - it's the swiss-army of webmails, and is >>a port. Got it running very painlessly, and it does pretty much >>everything. Haven't played with much else, but as soon as I found OWM I >>haven't had the need to look at any of the other ones. >> >> > > >Hello Friends, > > >Let me take Adam on this ;) > >And you by extension. > >I tried openwebmail today. It was very difficult to get running under a >virtualhost in apache. Perhaps I missed some point but even as >we speak, I still believe something is not right with the setup. >http://owm.wananchi.com. > Have either of you ever tried squirrelmail? Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Systems Administrator Centaur Technology All generalizations are false, including this one. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 07:00:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80EA716A4CE for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:00:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from unix18.sihope.com (unix18.sihope.com [207.195.195.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B8C43F3F for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:00:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adamm@sihope.com) Received: from unixws1 (unixws1.sihope.com [207.195.195.190]) by unix18.sihope.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB5F06kP007480; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:00:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from adamm@sihope.com) From: Adam Maloney To: Odhiambo Washington In-Reply-To: <20031205144409.GF69869@ns2.wananchi.com> References: <3FA69CE5.8000501@qcislands.net> <1067886466.14472.86.camel@unixws1> <20031205144409.GF69869@ns2.wananchi.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1070636405.5514.38.camel@unixws1> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 09:00:06 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: web mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 15:00:10 -0000 There is an auth_mysql module that comes with it, it looks like you can specify the database and table information, and the field names and types, so it knows how to authenticate. It does support crypted passwords in mysql. There is a section in the manual on setting up virtual domains/users. Our setup is authentication through NIS, virtual users in virtusertable (just Sendmail here). We have our users login as user@domain, and OWM actually expands the login name from virtusertable. It gives the user a list of their possible From addresses, based on the virtuser entries for that login (so if they have multiple addresses with the same login, they can choose which one their e-mail comes from.) As far as reading from the /var/spool/virtual/DOMAIN/USER/Maildir - I'm not sure whether OWM supports Maildir format, you'll have to check the docs. There is a mailspooldir configuration option. There is also an option to use hashed spool directories (/var/mail/a/d/adamm) which you can probably use as a starting point for making it use your version of the mail spool. This is in openwebmail.pl On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 08:44, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > * Adam Maloney [20031103 22:16]: wrote: > > openwebmail (openwebmail.org) - it's the swiss-army of webmails, and is > > a port. Got it running very painlessly, and it does pretty much > > everything. Haven't played with much else, but as soon as I found OWM I > > haven't had the need to look at any of the other ones. > > > Hello Friends, > > > Let me take Adam on this ;) > > And you by extension. > > I tried openwebmail today. It was very difficult to get running under a > virtualhost in apache. Perhaps I missed some point but even as > we speak, I still believe something is not right with the setup. > http://owm.wananchi.com. > > The login window looks very nice, but I haven't managed to get it to > authenticate a user at all. Why? Because I am still not sure. I think > I will need a whole night (w/o interferences) to do that. Those who > have used it may help me though. > I am moving towards a complete virtual setup where all users are in > a MySQL database. What I would like to know (which I so far doubt) is > whether openwebmail can authenticate using encrypted passwords (md5 - > same as those we have in master.passwd) from the DB. My setup stores > mail in /var/spool/virtual/$domain/$user/Maildir/. Is openwebmail > ever capable of reading the mail from this path, leave alone from > /home/$user/Maildir ($HOME/Maildir)?? > > Can it accept virtual user logins (user@domains)?? > > Or perhaps I can use PAM, with pam_mysql?? > > I'd very much appreciate any pointers. The webforum for OWM is not > the best that I have ever seen. I like Mailman-like forums, not one > like the owm one;) > > > -Wash > > http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > > -- > +======================================================================+ > |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington > Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 > +======================================================================+ > The USA is so enormous, and so numerous are its schools, colleges and > religious seminaries, many devoted to special religious beliefs ranging > from the unorthodox to the dotty, that we can hardly wonder at its > yielding a more bounteous harvest of gobbledygook than the rest of the > world put together. > -- Sir Peter Medawar