From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jan 26 0:10: 5 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA8B37B401; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [216.187.87.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBA143EB2; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 722AEAE4A4; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2003-01-05 - 2003-01-25 Message-Id: <20030126081001.722AEAE4A4@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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These are the articles posted during this period: 21-Jan : Amazon, OSW, and my thanks More features, more advocacy, and more appreciation http://freebsddiary.org/index.html?2 7-Jan : Tell your story, help others Tell your story, help others http://freebsddiary.org/tell-your-story.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jan 26 1:12:49 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D22337B401 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 01:12:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.65.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 527E043ED8 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 01:12:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 15911 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jan 2003 09:12:38 -0000 Received: from p508BD308.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO oak.pohoyda.family) (80.139.211.8) by mail.gmx.net (mp005-rz3) with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 09:12:38 -0000 Received: from oak.pohoyda.family (oak.pohoyda.family [127.0.0.1]) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0Q9CgWF000742; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:12:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) Received: (from apog@localhost) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h0Q9CfKZ000739; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:12:41 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.pohoyda.family: apog set sender to alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net using -f To: Alex Huth Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: restore of CVS References: <200301251157.29656.ahuth@pinguintown.de> <8765sclvgn.fsf@oak.pohoyda.family> <200301260846.58397.ahuth@pinguintown.de> From: Alexander Pohoyda Date: 26 Jan 2003 10:12:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200301260846.58397.ahuth@pinguintown.de> Message-ID: <87r8b0b7g6.fsf@oak.pohoyda.family> Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alex Huth writes: > > > I will do a fresh install of a system and have a backup of /usr/ports= and > > > /usr/local. Which files/dirs do i have to restore to have a working > > > cvstree on the new machine? > > What is the reason for making a backup of /usr/ports ? Even more /usr/l= ocal > > ?? Which CVS tree do you need? > I=C2=B4ve want to make a new install of the machine. While I=C2=B4m only = having a line=20 > with 7 kb to do a initial cvsup and fetch the sources, it is good to copy= the=20 > tree back to the new machine. If you are in Germany, mail me your address and I will burn CDs for you. Which release? --=20 Alexander Pohoyda To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jan 26 6:31:59 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4E437B401 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 06:31:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37C243F13 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 06:31:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jimf@graybox.co.uk) Received: from greybox.home.org ([213.105.10.169]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030126143151.YZOH4699.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@greybox.home.org>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:31:51 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" From: jimf Reply-To: jimf@graybox.co.uk To: Alexander Pohoyda Subject: Re: restore of CVS Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:32:33 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <200301251157.29656.ahuth@pinguintown.de> <200301260846.58397.ahuth@pinguintown.de> <87r8b0b7g6.fsf@oak.pohoyda.family> In-Reply-To: <87r8b0b7g6.fsf@oak.pohoyda.family> Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200301261432.33853.jimf@graybox.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday 26 January 2003 09:12, Alexander Pohoyda wrote: This is one of the reasons why I use bsd, well done! jimf > Alex Huth writes: > > > > I will do a fresh install of a system and have a backup of /usr/p= orts > > > > and /usr/local. Which files/dirs do i have to restore to have a > > > > working cvstree on the new machine? > > > > > > What is the reason for making a backup of /usr/ports ? Even more > > > /usr/local ?? Which CVS tree do you need? > > > > I=C2=B4ve want to make a new install of the machine. While I=C2=B4m o= nly having a > > line with 7 kb to do a initial cvsup and fetch the sources, it is goo= d to > > copy the tree back to the new machine. > > If you are in Germany, mail me your address and I will burn CDs for > you. Which release? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 27 3:57:31 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CE837B401 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 03:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.lanworks.de (mailgate.lanworks.de [194.77.154.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C610A43ED8 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 03:57:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ahuth@lanworks.de) Received: from devil.pinguintown.local (private-lan-address [192.168.100.154] (may be forged)) by mail.lanworks.de with ESMTP id h0RB4mO21115 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:04:48 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Alex Huth To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Version 5 and kerneloptions Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:02:38 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200301271102.38638.ahuth@lanworks.de> X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi guys! I=B4m looking for a detailled document for the kerneloptions in Version 5= =2E In=20 the handbook are not all listed and in the web i didn=B4t found something= like=20 this. For example, some options explained in various documents have changed or = are=20 no longer existent. So, where can i find something like that So long ... Alex Huth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 27 10:51:49 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8A337B401 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:51:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from more.smaller.net (more.smaller.net [63.228.228.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3267143F18 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:51:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jernster@dumbfounded.net) Received: (qmail 31398 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2003 18:51:41 -0000 Received: from 12-235-231-241.client.attbi.com (HELO ?192.168.1.10?) (12.235.231.241) by more.smaller.net with SMTP; 27 Jan 2003 18:51:41 -0000 Subject: Re: Version 5 and kerneloptions From: "Jon M. Ernster" To: Alex Huth Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200301271102.38638.ahuth@lanworks.de> References: <200301271102.38638.ahuth@lanworks.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Organization: Message-Id: <1043693500.895.27.camel@majorly> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.1 Date: 27 Jan 2003 11:51:40 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: more.smaller.net 0/1/N Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You can view kernel changes at www.freebsd.org/releases/5.0R/relnotes.html On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 03:02, Alex Huth wrote: > Hi guys! > > I´m looking for a detailled document for the kerneloptions in Version 5. In > the handbook are not all listed and in the web i didn´t found something like > this. > > For example, some options explained in various documents have changed or are > no longer existent. > > So, where can i find something like that > > > So long ... > > > Alex Huth > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 27 11:38: 3 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EC637B401 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:38:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3EBD43E4A for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:38:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 28406 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jan 2003 19:38:00 -0000 Received: from p508BF5B2.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO oak.pohoyda.family) (80.139.245.178) by mail.gmx.net (mp020-rz3) with SMTP; 27 Jan 2003 19:38:00 -0000 Received: from oak.pohoyda.family (oak.pohoyda.family [127.0.0.1]) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0RJbxwk005288; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:38:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) Received: (from apog@localhost) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0RJbviB005285; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:37:57 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.pohoyda.family: apog set sender to alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net using -f To: Alex Huth Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Version 5 and kerneloptions References: <200301271102.38638.ahuth@lanworks.de> From: Alexander Pohoyda Date: 27 Jan 2003 20:37:57 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200301271102.38638.ahuth@lanworks.de> Message-ID: <87y9569yei.fsf@oak.pohoyda.family> Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alex Huth writes: > I=C2=B4m looking for a detailled document for the kerneloptions in Versio= n 5. If you mean kernel config options: have a look at /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES a= nd /usr/src/sys//conf/NOTES files. If you mean sysctl variables: man 3 sysctl, man 8 sysctl. --=20 Alexander Pohoyda To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 27 14:20:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4162637B401 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FF243F75 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:20:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b001.otenet.gr [195.167.121.129]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0RMJuBb018581 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:20:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0RMIwVF001145 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:18:58 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0RHfVNB002649; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 19:41:31 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 19:41:31 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Alex Huth Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Version 5 and kerneloptions Message-ID: <20030127174131.GA2521@gothmog.gr> References: <200301271102.38638.ahuth@lanworks.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200301271102.38638.ahuth@lanworks.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2003-01-27 11:02, Alex Huth wrote: > I'm looking for a detailled document for the kerneloptions in > Version 5. In the handbook are not all listed and in the web I > didn't found something like this. > > For example, some options explained in various documents have > changed or are no longer existent. > > So, where can i find something like that There is always an up to date description of all the available kernel options[1] in the following files: /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES - Giorgos [1] Well, almost always, and almost all. But the NOTES files are very good sources of kernel option information. 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Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BB043F43 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:10:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h113A7NS072019 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:10:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h113A7M4072017 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:10:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:10:07 -0800 (PST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200302010310.h113A7M4072017@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 31 21:20:15 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E7137B401; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:20:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (h00095b0e132b.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.128.71.104]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90F3143F79; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:20:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Anna_668_Pritka@hotmail.com) Message-ID: <001211e3cd72$edb53331$88525084@yxapjtj.ogi> From: To: user5@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: hey ;) 8 Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 06:02:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C0_83D02D5B.A7867E84" X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_83D02D5B.A7867E84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 SGkgdGhlcmUsICBJIHNhdyB5b3VyIHByb2ZpbGUgb24gSW50ZXJuZXQgYW5k IGZvdW5kIGl0IHZlcnkgaW50ZXJlc3RpbmcuIEkgYW0gbmV3IGdpcmwgKEkn bSAyMiB5ZWFycyBvbGQpIHRvIHRoZSBhcmVhIGFuZCBkb24ndCBoYXZlIGFu eSBmcmllbmRzIHlldCA6PVsgDQpJIHJlY2VudGx5IHB1cmNoZXNlZCB3ZWIg Y2FtIGFuZCBsb29raW5nIGZvciBmcmllbmRzIHRvIHRhbGsgdG8uLi4uIHdo byBrbm93cyBtYXliZSBvbmUgZGF5IHdlJ2xsIGJlIG1vcmUgdGhlbiBmcmll bmRzIDstKSANCklmIHlvdSBpbnRlcmVzdGVkIGVtYWlsIG1lIGJhY2sgYXQg ZGlhbmFfMDU4X21pbGxlckBob3RtYWlsLmNvbSBhbmQgd2UgY2FuIG1heWJl IHZpZGVvIGNoYXQsIGV4Y2hhbmdlIHBpY3R1cmVzIG9yIGp1c3Qgc2hhcmUg c3RvcmllcyBhbmQgY2hhdC4gDQoNCkhvcGUgdG8gaGVhciBmcm9tIHlvdSBz b29uISEgDQpCZXN0IHJlZ2FyZHMsDQowICAwIA0KICA+IA0KLSBfIF8gLQ0K DQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KNzI2MFpNTmw3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 1 0:19: 3 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B6037B401 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 00:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from www6.mailru.com (www6.mailru.com [80.68.244.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D3B43F75 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 00:19:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cybermac@hotbox.ru) Received: by HotBOX.Ru WebMail v2.1 id h118Ir3Z093354 for ; Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:18:53 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <200302010818.h118Ir3Z093354@www6.mailru.com> From: Makovkin Denis To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Free WebMail HotBOX.ru X-Originating-IP: [212.111.76.245] Subject: Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org auth 40d50ace unsubscribe freebsd-newbies \ cybermac@hotbox.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 1 9:18:31 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1243E37B401 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:18:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from g38.rdsbv.ro (catv-193-231-237-197.rdsbv.ro [193.231.237.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDBF43F3F for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:18:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from g38@rdsbv.ro) Received: from kgb.rdsbv.ro (dzerjinski.kgb.ro [193.231.237.196]) by g38.rdsbv.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA129C52 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 19:18:25 +0200 (EET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Petre Bandac Reply-To: g38@rdsbv.ro Organization: g38 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: eterm key bindings Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 19:18:30 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200302011918.30945.g38@rdsbv.ro> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm using enlightenment and eterm as shell console I want my del key to act like del (not like backspace) and home/end as=20 home/end - now when I press one oh those I get a ~ symbol where and what should I modify ? 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