From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 16 0:10: 9 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC0337B401; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 00:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [64.251.91.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E9143FB1; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 00:10:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 57027AE48F; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2003-01-26 - 2003-02-15 Message-Id: <20030216081001.57027AE48F@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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It's been fun, but not the best kind. http://freebsddiary.org/what-a-week.php?2 28-Jan : Open Source Weekend - conference report OSW was a great event http://freebsddiary.org/osw-2003.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 16 10: 3: 3 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CC637B401; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 10:03:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.lphp.org (APastourelles-107-1-11-100.abo.wanadoo.fr [217.128.154.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85FDA43F3F; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 10:02:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) Received: from srv01.lphp.org.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.lphp.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1GI2mQ2067461; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:02:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by srv01.lphp.org.local (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1GI2lvr067460; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:02:47 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: srv01.lphp.org.local: www set sender to ajacoutot@lphp.org using -f Received: from 192.168.0.4 ( [192.168.0.4]) as user ajacoutot@localhost by webmail.lphp.org with HTTP; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:02:47 +0100 Message-ID: <1045418567.3e4fd24734303@webmail.lphp.org> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:02:47 +0100 From: Antoine Jacoutot To: "freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org" Subject: gphoto2 Segmentation fault (core dumped) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 / FreeBSD-4.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ! Sorry for cross-posting this question, but I already asked it to different places without any answer. I can't get gPhoto2 working under FreeBSD-4.7-STABLE, I always get segmentation faults. Here is the debug output, if anyone has an idea. Thanks in advance. $ gphoto2 --port=usb: --camera="Canon Digital IXUS 300" -l --debug 0.000261 main(2): ALWAYS INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING LINES WHEN SENDING DEBUG MESSAGES TO THE MAILING LIST: 0.001441 main(2): gphoto2 2.1.1 0.002097 main(2): gphoto2 has been compiled with the following options: 0.002715 main(2): + cc (C compiler used) 0.003275 main(2): + popt (for handling command-line parameters) 0.004079 main(2): + exif (for displaying EXIF information) 0.004808 main(2): + no cdk (for accessing configuration options) 0.005412 main(2): + aa (for displaying live previews) 0.005994 main(2): + jpeg (for displaying live previews in JPEG format) 0.006599 main(2): + no readline (for easy navigation in the shell) 0.007218 main(2): libgphoto2 2.1.1 0.007784 main(2): libgphoto2 has been compiled with the following options: 0.008931 main(2): + cc (C compiler used) 0.009639 main(2): + EXIF (for special handling of EXIF files) 0.010257 main(2): + no ltdl (working around bugg libltdl, eh? :-) 0.010858 main(2): + no /proc/meminfo (adapts cache size to memory available) 0.011484 main(2): libgphoto2_port 0.5.1 0.012061 main(2): libgphoto2_port has been compiled with the following options: 0.012674 main(2): + cc (C compiler used) 0.013226 main(2): + USB (for USB cameras) 0.013784 main(2): + serial (for serial cameras) 0.014620 main(2): + no baudboy (serial port locking) 0.015213 main(2): + no ttylock (serial port locking) 0.016088 main(2): + no lockdev (serial port locking) 0.016680 main(2): + no ltdl (working around bugg libltdl, eh? :-) 0.017359 main(2): Processing 'port' option ('usb:')... 0.018066 gp-port-info-list(2): Loading io-drivers from '/usr/local/lib/gphoto2_port/0.5.1'... 0.019262 gphoto2-port-serial(2): Trying to lock '/dev/cuaa0'... 0.031182 gphoto2-port-serial(2): Trying to lock '/dev/cuaa1'... 0.032852 gphoto2-port-serial(2): Trying to lock '/dev/cuaa2'... 0.033695 gphoto2-port-serial(2): Trying to lock '/dev/cuaa3'... 0.034823 gphoto2-port-serial(2): Trying to lock '/dev/cuaa4'... 0.035563 gphoto2-port-serial(2): Trying to lock '/dev/cuaa5'... 0.043075 gphoto2-port-serial(2): Trying to lock '/dev/cuaa6'... 0.044405 gphoto2-port-serial(2): Trying to lock '/dev/cuaa7'... 0.045116 gphoto2-port-serial(2): Trying to lock '/dev/cuaa8'... 0.045804 gphoto2-port-serial(2): Trying to lock '/dev/cuaa9'... 0.046496 gphoto2-port-serial(2): Trying to lock '/dev/cuaaa'... 0.047183 gphoto2-port-serial(2): Trying to lock '/dev/cuaab'... 0.047891 gphoto2-port-serial(2): Trying to lock '/dev/cuaac'... 0.048585 gphoto2-port-serial(2): Trying to lock '/dev/cuaad'... 0.049278 gphoto2-port-serial(2): Trying to lock '/dev/cuaae'... 0.049971 gphoto2-port-serial(2): Trying to lock '/dev/cuaaf'... 0.050941 gphoto2-port-core(2): Loaded 'Serial Port 0' (serial:/dev/cuaa0) from 'libgphoto2_port_serial.so' 0.051716 gphoto2-port-core(2): Loaded 'Serial Port 1' (serial:/dev/cuaa1) from 'libgphoto2_port_serial.so' 0.052414 gphoto2-port-core(2): Loaded '' (^serial) from 'libgphoto2_port_serial.so' 0.053730 gphoto2-port-core(2): Loaded 'Universal Serial Bus' (usb:) from 'libgphoto2_port_usb.so' 0.055601 gphoto2-port-info-list(2): Looking for path 'usb:' (4 entries available)... 0.056484 gphoto2-port-info-list(2): Getting info of entry 2 (4 available)... 0.057197 gphoto2-camera(2): Setting port info for port 'Universal Serial Bus' at 'usb:'... 0.059034 gphoto2-port(2): Setting timeout to 5000 millisecond(s)... 0.059935 gphoto2-port(2): Setting settings... 0.060560 setting/gphoto2-setting.c(2): Creating $HOME/.gphoto 0.062408 setting/gphoto2-setting.c(2): Loading settings from file "/home/ajacoutot/.gphoto/settings" 0.063657 gphoto2-setting(2): Setting key 'port' to value 'usb:' (gphoto2) 0.065705 gphoto2-setting(2): Saving 2 setting(s) to file "/home/ajacoutot/.gphoto/settings" 0.067950 main(2): Processing 'model' option ('Canon Digital IXUS 300')... 0.068893 gphoto2-camera(2): Setting abilities ('Canon Digital IXUS 300')... 0.069584 gphoto2-setting(2): Setting key 'model' to value 'Canon Digital IXUS 300' (gphoto2) 0.070259 gphoto2-setting(2): Saving 2 setting(s) to file "/home/ajacoutot/.gphoto/settings" 0.072642 foreach(2): Executing action 'List Folders' for folder '/'. 0.073751 gphoto2-camera(2): Listing folders in '/'... Segmentation fault (core dumped) -- Antoine Jacoutot ajacoutot@lphp.org http://www.lphp.org "Unix is user friendly. He's just very picky about who his friends are..." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 16 10:40:17 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D57037B401; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 10:40:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl (prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl [194.29.178.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D2E43F3F; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 10:40:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from G.Czaplinski@prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl) Received: from localhost (localhost.mini.pw.edu.pl [127.0.0.1]) by prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1487D300; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:40:09 +0100 (CET) Received: by prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl (Postfix, from userid 1368) id 912CF7D2F6; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:40:04 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:40:04 +0100 From: Grzegorz Czaplinski To: Antoine Jacoutot Cc: "freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: gphoto2 Segmentation fault (core dumped) Message-ID: <20030216184004.GC36731@prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl> References: <1045418567.3e4fd24734303@webmail.lphp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C1iGAkRnbeBonpVg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1045418567.3e4fd24734303@webmail.lphp.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP: http://prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl/~gregory/pgp.txt X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS (prioris) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --C1iGAkRnbeBonpVg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 07:02:47PM +0100, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: > Hi !=20 > =20 > Sorry for cross-posting this question, but I already asked it to differen= t=20 > places without any answer.=20 > I can't get gPhoto2 working under FreeBSD-4.7-STABLE, I always get =20 > segmentation faults.=20 > Here is the debug output, if anyone has an idea.=20 > Thanks in advance.=20 > =20 What digital camera do you have? Can you tell us? Greg -- Grzegorz Czaplinski "The Power to Serve, Right for the Power Users!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ Fingerprint: EB77 E19D CFA2 5736 810F 847C A70F A275 2489 469F --C1iGAkRnbeBonpVg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj5P2wQACgkQpw+idSSJRp8d9gCfRAaf/DauUQ/DfmAiSAw0zFjx gLwAoNJ7HixRbl++/KjrV0kR9TW5L/ZF =u1AK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C1iGAkRnbeBonpVg-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 16 10:48: 5 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6856C37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 10:48:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.lphp.org (APastourelles-107-1-11-100.abo.wanadoo.fr [217.128.154.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FFB43F85 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 10:47:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) Received: from sta01 (sta01.lphp.org.local [192.168.0.4]) by mx1.lphp.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1GIlrQ2067658; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:47:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) From: Antoine Jacoutot To: Grzegorz Czaplinski Subject: Re: gphoto2 Segmentation fault (core dumped) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:47:52 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 Cc: "freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org"@lphp.org References: <1045418567.3e4fd24734303@webmail.lphp.org> <20030216184004.GC36731@prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl> In-Reply-To: <20030216184004.GC36731@prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200302161947.52142.ajacoutot@lphp.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday 16 February 2003 19:40, Grzegorz Czaplinski wrote: > What digital camera do you have? > Can you tell us? Sure, I'm sorry, it is a Canon Digital XIUS 300 Antoine To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 16 12:52:29 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B304737B401 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:52:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6C943FA3 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:52:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from johnc909@comcast.net) Received: from 12-235-33-25.client.attbi.com (12-235-33-25.client.attbi.com [12.235.33.25]) by mtaout03.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HAF00I495ZE75@mtaout03.icomcast.net> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:52:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:52:46 -0800 From: John Christian Subject: trouble building Qt30 port (as a dependency to the kde3 port) To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: <9A314D0C-41F0-11D7-8E73-0003931CFDEA@comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.543) Content-type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello, I'm trying to get the port of kde build on my machine (freeBSD 4.7, i386), but I'm stumped on getting past this error on the Qt build. I've tried setting various compiler flags so that it should be referring to the X font libraries properly, to no avail. I've also looked around a bit for a binary distribution of Qt, with no immediate luck. Please help? Here's the last command and the errors it produces: c++ -fno-exceptions -pthread -o ../../../bin/uic .obj/release-shared-mt/main.o .obj/release-shared-mt/uic.o .obj/release-shared-mt/form.o .obj/release-shared-mt/object.o .obj/release-shared-mt/subclassing.o .obj/release-shared-mt/embed.o .obj/release-shared-mt/widgetdatabase.o .obj/release-shared-mt/domtool.o .obj/release-shared-mt/parser.o -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,-rpath,/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt30/work/qt-x11-free-3.0.5/lib -L/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt30/work/qt-x11-free-3.0.5/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lz -lqt-mt -lICE -lSM -lXext -lX11 -lm -lXinerama -lXrender -lXft -lfreetype /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt30/work/qt-x11-free-3.0.5/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to `XftFreeTypeOpen' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt30/work/qt-x11-free-3.0.5/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to `XftPatternBuild' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt30/work/qt-x11-free-3.0.5/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to `XftGlyphLoad' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt30/work/qt-x11-free-3.0.5/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to `XftFreeTypeClose' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt30/work/qt-x11-free-3.0.5/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to `XftFreeTypeGlyphExists' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt30/work/qt-x11-free-3.0.5/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to `XftPatternGetInteger' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt30/work/qt-x11-free-3.0.5/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to `XftPatternDestroy' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt30/work/qt-x11-free-3.0.5/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to `XftFontSetDestroy' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt30/work/qt-x11-free-3.0.5/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to `XftPatternGetString' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt30/work/qt-x11-free-3.0.5/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to `XftGlyphCheck' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt30/work/qt-x11-free-3.0.5/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to `XftPatternAddBool' gmake[3]: *** [../../../bin/uic] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt30/work/qt-x11-free-3.0.5/tools/designer/uic' gmake[2]: *** [sub-uic] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt30/work/qt-x11-free-3.0.5/tools/designer' gmake[1]: *** [sub-designer] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt30/work/qt-x11-free-3.0.5/tools' gmake: *** [sub-tools] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt30. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde3. thanks, jk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 16 22:58: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393E937B401 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:58:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from fmx1.freemail.hu (fmx1.freemail.hu [195.228.242.221]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C22B43F3F for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:58:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gannater@freemail.hu) Received: (qmail 74864 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 07:58:03 +0100 Received: from fm13.freemail.hu (195.228.242.214) by fmx1.freemail.hu with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 07:58:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 34924 invoked by uid 3644897); 17 Feb 2003 07:58:03 +0100 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 07:58:03 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Gannater_J=E1nos?= Subject: Apache 2 hosts To: BSD Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [62.201.65.162] X-HTTP-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have assined another IP address for my computer. I would like to host to domain names on my server. Of course the 2 should be different from each other. How can I do this with a apache? Should I use VirtualDomains like in the freebsddiary.org? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 16 23:18:48 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A2737B401 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:18:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from its-mu-hestia.its.rmit.edu.au (its-mu-hestia.its.rmit.edu.au [131.170.1.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70D843F93 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:18:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Neeraj.Arora@ems.rmit.edu.au) Received: from ems.rmit.edu.au (ems.rmit.edu.au [131.170.10.112]) by its-mu-hestia.its.rmit.edu.au (8.10.1/8.10.1/ANTI-SPAM/ANTI-RELAY/HESTIA) with ESMTP id h1H7Igl25474 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 18:18:42 +1100 (EST) Received: from INET1-MTA by ems.rmit.edu.au with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 18:18:42 +1100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.3 Beta Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 18:18:25 +1100 From: "Neeraj Arora" To: , Subject: Re: Apache 2 hosts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I recommend that you use VirtualHost with domain names. So that if you = change your dns entry any time, you dont have to update you apache = configuration as well. In the DNS, setup both domain names to point to the same ip address. For = example, the domain names exampleone.org and exampletwo.org have dns entries pointing to 192.168.10.5= 5 and aliases www.exampleone.org and www.exampletwo.org referring to the = original domain names And setup VirtualHost in apache httpd.conf. E.g. ServerAdmin webmaster@exampleone.org DocumenRoot /www/docs/exampleone.org ServerName www.exampleone.org ...and other settings... ServerAdmin webmaster@exampletwo.org DocumenRoot /www/docs/exampletwo.org ServerName www.exampletwo.org ...and other settings... Apache will pick files up from /www/docs/exampleone.org when www.exampleone= .org is requested and /www/docs/exampletwo.org when www.exampletwo.org is = requested. Consult the apache manual for various other settings that you can do. Regards, Neeraj >>> Gannater J=E1nos 02/17/03 05:58PM >>> I have assined another IP address for my computer. I would like to=20 host to domain names on my server. Of course the 2 should be=20 different from each other. How can I do this with a apache? Should I use VirtualDomains like in the freebsddiary.org? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org=20 with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Feb 17 0:18:29 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0282137B401 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:18:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f81.sea2.hotmail.com [207.68.165.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D5443F3F for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:18:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsdlists@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:18:28 -0800 Received: from 129.2.199.201 by sea2fd.sea2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:18:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [129.2.199.201] From: "free bsd" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: internet not working Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:18:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Feb 2003 08:18:28.0205 (UTC) FILETIME=[264369D0:01C2D65D] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ive recently installed fb 5.0 but have had trouble getting it to recognize the network. im running out of a university network, so its a t3 lan connection. i inputted the ip address and gateway address and subnet mask into the ppp.conf file and it still didnt work. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. paul _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Feb 17 0:31:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A38137B401 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:31:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from tautology.org (evrtwa1-ar13-4-33-070-190.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net [4.33.70.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBA843FAF for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:31:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sarah@ironicallyyours.org) Received: from tautology.org (tautology.org [127.0.0.1]) by tautology.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1H8Vj8f016433; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:31:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sarah@ironicallyyours.org) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:31:45 -0800 (PST) From: Sarah Woolley X-X-Sender: sarah@tautology.org To: free bsd Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: internet not working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030217003041.K16390-100000@tautology.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org what sort of error are you getting? When I connect to my school's lan, I just run dhclient and everything works for me. Did you try that? On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, free bsd wrote: > ive recently installed fb 5.0 but have had trouble getting it to recognize > the network. im running out of a university network, so its a t3 lan > connection. i inputted the ip address and gateway address and subnet mask > into the ppp.conf file and it still didnt work. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > paul > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Feb 17 12:30:41 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1804437B401 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:30:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from exgw2.lumeta.com (exgw2.lumeta.com [65.198.68.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A3143F3F for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:30:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tal@lumeta.com) Received: from lucy.corp.lumeta.com (h65-198-68-133.lumeta.com [65.198.68.133]) by exgw2.lumeta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D15037385F; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:30:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lucy.corp.lumeta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D024E1084E; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:30:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from lumeta.com (unknown [209.223.209.3]) by lucy.corp.lumeta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E2B1084D; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:30:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E514676.F78DE630@lumeta.com> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:30:46 -0500 From: Tom Limoncelli Organization: Lumeta Corp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ARL Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FREE BSD References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030213153706.00aa0c60@pop.telcoman.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I agree with people's recommendations so far, such as Unleashed and the Handbook, but I'd like to take a second to plug a book that I co-wrote: "The Practice of System and Network Administration" by Limoncelli & Hogan. It isn't about FreeBSD specifically, it's about the best practices and policies for large sites no matter what OS you are using: from how to build a good email infrastructure, how to manage your boss, write security policies that get followed, plan a budget, hire and fire sysadmins, and so on. (the first half is all technical, the second half is all operational and organizational). It's been well-received in the open source community, most likely because it has a "how to convince your boss to adopt open source" section :-). Peter Salus in Usenix ;login: has mentioned it favorably a few times. For more information, go to http://www.EverythingSysadmin.com --Tom Limoncelli ARL wrote: > > Greetings, > > I'm involved with a project to establish several Retail ISP's using BSD > software and systems. I'm looking for some excellent engineering books > and manuals for staff education and training. Would you have any > recommendations ? 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  • НЯБНХРЭ ЯРПЮРЕЦХХ ОНБЕДЕМХЪ Б СЯКНБХЪУ ДЕТХЖХРЮ ХМТНПЛЮЖХХ.

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  • СБЕПЕММНЕ ОНБЕДЕМХЕ Б ПЮГКХВМШУ ЯХРСЮЖХЪУ НАЫЕМХЪ;

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  • тНПЛХПНБЮМХЕ Х ПЮГБХРХЕ МЮБШЙНБ ОПЮЙРХВЕЯЙНЦН ХЯОНКЭГНБЮМХЪ ВСБЯРБХРЕКЭМНЯРХ Х ЦХАЙНЯРХ

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  • тНПЛХПНБЮМХЕ Х ПЮГБХРХЕ МЮБШЙНБ СЯОЕЬМНИ ЙНЛЛСМХЙЮЖХХ МЮ МЮВЮКЭМШУ ЩРЮОЮУ НАЫЕМХЪ (╚ОПХЯНЕДХМЕМХЕ╩ - СЯРЮМНБКЕМХЕ ДНБЕПХРЕКЭМНИ ЩЛНЖХНМЮКЭМНИ ЮРЛНЯТЕПШ, БШЪБКЕМХЕ ОНГХЖХИ, ЖЕММНЯРЕИ Х МЮХАНКЕЕ ГМЮВХЛШУ ОНРПЕАМНЯРЕИ ЯНАЕЯЕДМХЙЮ)

  • тНПЛХПНБЮМХЕ Х ПЮГБХРХЕ МЮБШЙНБ ╚ЯНОПНБНФДЕМХЪ╩ ЯНАЕЯЕДМХЙЮ Б ЕЦН ЯРПСЙРСПЕ ОНРПЕАМНЯРЕИ Х ЖЕММНЯРЕИ. гЮЙПЕОКЕМХЕ Х ОНДДЕПФЮМХЕ ДНБЕПХРЕКЭМНИ ЩЛНЖХНМЮКЭМНИ ЮРЛНЯТЕПШ (СДЕПФЮМХЕ ПЮООНПРЮ)

  • нЯБНЕМХЕ СЛЕМХИ ╚БЕДЕМХЪ╩ ЙКХЕМРЮ (ЙНППЕЙЖХЪ ЕЦН САЕФДЕМХИ Я СВЕРНЛ бЮЬХУ ХМРЕПЕЯНБ)

  • пЮАНРЮ Я ЯНЛМЕМХЪЛХ Х БНГПЮФЕМХЪЛХ

  • оПХМЖХОШ БГЮХЛНДЕИЯРБХЪ Б НЯРПШУ ЙНМТКХЙРМШУ ЯХРСЮЖХЪУ

  • гМЮЙНЛЯРБН Я ЛЮМХОСКЪРХБМШЛХ РЕУМНКНЦХЪЛХ

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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 18 10:35:28 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14B137B405 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:35:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from thor.acuson.com (ac17859.acuson.com [157.226.71.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9DE43F75 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:35:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com (mvaexch02.acuson.com [157.226.230.209]) by thor.acuson.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0HAI001LJOX0NR@thor.acuson.com> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:34:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:27:30 -0800 Received: from dhcp-46-133.acuson.com ([157.226.46.133]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id Y2R0PX5T; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:29:00 -0800 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:35:00 -0800 From: Johnson David Subject: Re: trouble building Qt30 port (as a dependency to the kde3 port) In-reply-to: <9A314D0C-41F0-11D7-8E73-0003931CFDEA@comcast.net> To: John Christian , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: <200302181035.00305.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Organization: Siemens Medical Systems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <9A314D0C-41F0-11D7-8E73-0003931CFDEA@comcast.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday 16 February 2003 12:52 pm, John Christian wrote: > hello, I'm trying to get the port of kde build on my machine (freeBSD > 4.7, i386), but I'm stumped on getting past this error on the Qt > build. I've tried setting various compiler flags so that it should be > referring to the X font libraries properly, to no avail. I've also > looked around a bit for a binary distribution of Qt, with no > immediate luck. Please help? First, qt-3.0 (and kde-3.0) has been replaced with qt-3.1 (kde-3.1). You may want to use the newer ports. Second, qt-3.x requires the XFree86-4 libraries by default, in order to get the Xft support (specifically, the freetype2 dependency). Make sure you're not using XFree86-3.x. Qt should still work with the older X, but since your problem is with Xft, I'm assuming that your problem is related to this. Third, binary packages for Qt and KDE are available at . These are for KDE 3.1. Additional Qt/KDE information for FreeBSD is available here as well. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 18 14: 0:48 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D1C37B401 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 14:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4161243F3F for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 14:00:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from terrydunlap@netzero.net) Received: from barney (pcp246633pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net [68.55.64.60]) by mtaout04.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with SMTP id <0HAI009KEYH91E@mtaout04.icomcast.net> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:00:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:01:58 -0500 From: Terry J Dunlap Jr Subject: Ports & Sources Server To: FreeBSD Newbies Message-id: <000901c2d799$5be5f340$0201a8c0@barney> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all! I currently use multiple machines at home running FreeBSD. I've been in the habit of updating the ports collection and /usr/src on each machine individually. I know there's a more efficient way to do this. I have an old Pentium I machine. Is it possible to use this machine as a simple file server where I can update the ports collection and /usr/src then "push" it out to my other machines? By that, I mean once the file server is updated, some type of script runs that automatically updates the other machines' ports and /usr/src? Is this even doable? I don't know. Link's to articles/web sites that might explain this would be great. Also, is there a specific term for what I'm trying to achieve? Thanks for your time! Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 18 14: 8:58 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AC737B401 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 14:08:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 048C543F85 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 14:08:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from negative@magnesium.net) Received: (qmail 55003 invoked by uid 1224); 18 Feb 2003 22:08:56 -0000 Date: 18 Feb 2003 14:08:56 -0800 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 14:08:56 -0800 From: negative To: Terry J Dunlap Jr Cc: FreeBSD Newbies Subject: Re: Ports & Sources Server Message-ID: <20030218220856.GB52127@toxic.magnesium.net> References: <000901c2d799$5be5f340$0201a8c0@barney> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000901c2d799$5be5f340$0201a8c0@barney> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-URL: http://www.magnesium.net/~negative/ Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Feb 18, 2003 at 05:01:58PM -0500, terrydunlap@netzero.net wrote: > I have an old Pentium I machine. Is it possible to use this machine as a > simple file server where I can update the ports collection and /usr/src then > "push" it out to my other machines? By that, I mean once the file server is > updated, some type of script runs that automatically updates the other > machines' ports and /usr/src? Is this even doable? I don't know. Make sense to setup a NFS server to meet your need, but I suggest you to use better machine than PI for that. Jim Geovedi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 18 17:42:27 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F049A37B401 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:42:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.86.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D0743FA3 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:42:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mj001@rogers.com) Received: from rogers.com ([24.101.253.54]) by fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (InterMail vM.5.01.05.06 201-253-122-126-106-20020509) with ESMTP id <20030219014221.TMGN4827.fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@rogers.com>; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:42:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3E52E0FC.3040708@rogers.com> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:42:20 -0500 From: Mike Jeays User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20021005 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: negative Cc: Terry J Dunlap Jr , FreeBSD Newbies Subject: Re: Ports & Sources Server References: <000901c2d799$5be5f340$0201a8c0@barney> <20030218220856.GB52127@toxic.magnesium.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.101.253.54] using ID at Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:42:20 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org negative wrote: >On Feb 18, 2003 at 05:01:58PM -0500, terrydunlap@netzero.net wrote: > > >>I have an old Pentium I machine. Is it possible to use this machine as a >>simple file server where I can update the ports collection and /usr/src then >>"push" it out to my other machines? By that, I mean once the file server is >>updated, some type of script runs that automatically updates the other >>machines' ports and /usr/src? Is this even doable? I don't know. >> >> > >Make sense to setup a NFS server to meet your need, but I suggest you >to use better machine than PI for that. > > Jim Geovedi > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > Depends on what you have to hand, or how much cash you feel like laying out. I use my old Pentium 120 as a server in my home installation, and it seems perfectly adequate. (It does have a more recent 10GB disk). NFS is certainly a good way to go. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 18 18:13:49 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39D337B401 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:13:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4741B43FA3 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:13:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from terrydunlap@netzero.net) Received: from barney (pcp246633pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net [68.55.64.60]) by mtaout05.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with SMTP id <0HAJ00K47A6Y3U@mtaout05.icomcast.net> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:13:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:14:59 -0500 From: Terry J Dunlap Jr Subject: Re: Ports & Sources Server To: Mike Jeays , negative Cc: FreeBSD Newbies Message-id: <001501c2d7bc$b4790a10$0201a8c0@barney> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <000901c2d799$5be5f340$0201a8c0@barney> <20030218220856.GB52127@toxic.magnesium.net> <3E52E0FC.3040708@rogers.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org NFS is new to me. In addition to the handbook and "FreeBSD Unleashed", any other sources you might suggest for learning NFS? I see that O'Reilly publishes "Managing NFS and NIS." Is this overkill for what I'm trying to achieve? Thanks for speedy and helpful replies! Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Jeays" To: "negative" Cc: "Terry J Dunlap Jr" ; "FreeBSD Newbies" Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:42 PM Subject: Re: Ports & Sources Server > negative wrote: > > >On Feb 18, 2003 at 05:01:58PM -0500, terrydunlap@netzero.net wrote: > > > > > >>I have an old Pentium I machine. Is it possible to use this machine as a > >>simple file server where I can update the ports collection and /usr/src then > >>"push" it out to my other machines? By that, I mean once the file server is > >>updated, some type of script runs that automatically updates the other > >>machines' ports and /usr/src? Is this even doable? I don't know. > >> > >> > > > >Make sense to setup a NFS server to meet your need, but I suggest you > >to use better machine than PI for that. > > > > Jim Geovedi > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > Depends on what you have to hand, or how much cash you feel like > laying out. I use my old Pentium 120 as a server in my home installation, > and it seems perfectly adequate. (It does have a more recent 10GB disk). > NFS is certainly a good way to go. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 18 18:38:27 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F48837B401 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:38:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from thor.acuson.com (ac17859.acuson.com [157.226.71.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B3743F75 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:38:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com (mvaexch02.acuson.com [157.226.230.209]) by thor.acuson.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0HAJ003H9BA1KH@thor.acuson.com> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:37:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:30:30 -0800 Received: from dhcp-46-133.acuson.com ([157.226.46.133]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id Y2R0QC9T; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:31:51 -0800 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:37:52 -0800 From: Johnson David Subject: Re: Ports & Sources Server In-reply-to: <001501c2d7bc$b4790a10$0201a8c0@barney> To: Terry J Dunlap Jr Cc: FreeBSD Newbies Message-id: <200302181837.52238.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Organization: Siemens Medical Systems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <000901c2d799$5be5f340$0201a8c0@barney> <3E52E0FC.3040708@rogers.com> <001501c2d7bc$b4790a10$0201a8c0@barney> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday 18 February 2003 06:14 pm, Terry J Dunlap Jr wrote: > NFS is new to me. In addition to the handbook and "FreeBSD > Unleashed", any other sources you might suggest for learning NFS? > > I see that O'Reilly publishes "Managing NFS and NIS." Is this > overkill for what I'm trying to achieve? Probably overkill for your situation. All you need is an NFS server running on the "ports" machine, and NFS clients on the others. If this network is exposed to the public, then you'll need to take care that you properly secure NFS. Taking a quick look at freebsddiary, I see that there's an article there at . Amazingly enough, the author is using NFS for a ports tree. FreeBSD Diary is your friend in need! David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 19 4:50:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD3937B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 04:50:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from web40905.mail.yahoo.com (web40905.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 348BD43F93 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 04:50:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davemjones13@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030219125014.13102.qmail@web40905.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.55.200.20] by web40905.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 04:50:14 PST Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 04:50:14 -0800 (PST) From: dave jones Reply-To: dmj111@psualum.com Subject: Re: Ports & Sources Server To: FreeBSD Newbies In-Reply-To: <001501c2d7bc$b4790a10$0201a8c0@barney> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A cvsup mirror is another option, although it might not fit your needs as well as using NFS. Here is an article about it: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/08/30/Big_Scary_Daemons.html __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 19 9: 7:28 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6D137B405 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:07:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f211.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25E343F3F for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:07:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from laksefiskerbsd@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:07:23 -0800 Received: from 217.70.229.41 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:07:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [217.70.229.41] From: "Henrik W Lund" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: From newbie to newbie: Observations... Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 18:07:23 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Feb 2003 17:07:23.0560 (UTC) FILETIME=[5ED5CA80:01C2D839] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, my name is Henrik and I'm a FreeBSD newbie. I would like to share some experiences and observations I have made during my run-ins with UNIX OSs in the past. I'm currently in my fourth inning, and have finally gotten myself together and produced a running, stable system. I choose to still label myself a newbie because I still scream in frustration every day over some mundane, essential task that must be done that I have no idea how to go about doing. In case you come from a "Windows" environment(like I did), FreeBSD might seem daunting at first. Whereas you are used to having the computer scratch your back and make you tea by the very flick of the power switch, in UNIX you are left with a rather simple looking (and often cryptically labelled) command prompt and a blinking cursor. None of the commands that normally do something, don't work at all, and if they do, they sure don't do what you expect them to! But don't panic (like I did) and run off screaming to get your Windows CD (like I did). First of all, calm down. Seek out sources of information like this, the FreeBSD website and others. And the most important thing; read. The man pages count in the thousands, so there's lots of good stuff for the rainy days. Wonder what dd does? A little hunting and pecking will have "man dd" typed in no time, and voila! Second, be prepared to reinstall the entire OS. Several times. The tampering of config files by careless newbies can wreak havoc on any system, particularly a UNIX one. Reinstallation is frequently the fastest, most efficient way to get the system back up. Third, read point one again. It'll do you good. ;) Fourth, remember that at the end of the day, you can be sure the sun will rise in the morning regardless of whether or not you got inetd set up the way you liked, or if you even know what the heck inetd is. Take this message for what it is: one newbie trying to let other newbies know that "it's all right". ;) -Henrik, FreeBSD newbie and fanatic :D _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger http://www.msn.no/messenger - Den korteste veien mellom deg og dine venner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 19 16: 4:46 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88E537B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from fep03-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (fep03-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.86.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC0B43F3F for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:04:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mj001@rogers.com) Received: from rogers.com ([24.101.253.54]) by fep03-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (InterMail vM.5.01.05.06 201-253-122-126-106-20020509) with ESMTP id <20030220000441.CXJE4264.fep03-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@rogers.com>; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:04:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3E541B99.50607@rogers.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:04:41 -0500 From: Mike Jeays User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20021005 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik W Lund Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: From newbie to newbie: Observations... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at fep03-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.101.253.54] using ID at Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:04:41 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Henrik W Lund wrote: > Hi, my name is Henrik and I'm a FreeBSD newbie. I would like to share > some experiences and observations I have made during my run-ins with > UNIX OSs in the past. I'm currently in my fourth inning, and have > finally gotten myself together and produced a running, stable system. > I choose to still label myself a newbie because I still scream in > frustration every day over some mundane, essential task that must be > done that I have no idea how to go about doing. > > In case you come from a "Windows" environment(like I did), FreeBSD > might seem daunting at first. Whereas you are used to having the > computer scratch your back and make you tea by the very flick of the > power switch, in UNIX you are left with a rather simple looking (and > often cryptically labelled) command prompt and a blinking cursor. None > of the commands that normally do something, don't work at all, and if > they do, they sure don't do what you expect them to! > > But don't panic (like I did) and run off screaming to get your Windows > CD (like I did). > > First of all, calm down. Seek out sources of information like this, > the FreeBSD website and others. And the most important thing; read. > The man pages count in the thousands, so there's lots of good stuff > for the rainy days. Wonder what dd does? A little hunting and pecking > will have "man dd" typed in no time, and voila! > > Second, be prepared to reinstall the entire OS. Several times. The > tampering of config files by careless newbies can wreak havoc on any > system, particularly a UNIX one. Reinstallation is frequently the > fastest, most efficient way to get the system back up. > > Third, read point one again. It'll do you good. ;) > > Fourth, remember that at the end of the day, you can be sure the sun > will rise in the morning regardless of whether or not you got inetd > set up the way you liked, or if you even know what the heck inetd is. > > Take this message for what it is: one newbie trying to let other > newbies know that "it's all right". ;) > > -Henrik, > FreeBSD newbie and fanatic :D > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Messenger http://www.msn.no/messenger - Den korteste veien mellom > deg og dine venner > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > Welcome to FreeBSD! If you have just got the command line interface up, and you like to have your computer scratch your back and make tea for you, you have some nice surprises coming. If you haven't yet installed X-Windows and either KDE or GNOME, you will find you get a graphical desktop every bit as powerful and easy to use as Windows - better in many respects - with all the stability of FreeBSD underneath it. And it is much easier to automate tasks, and understand what the system is actually doing. I have been using it as my desktop at home since 1997, and every day I have to use Windows at work, I feel bored and tired of it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 19 17: 4: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5517B37B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net (mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net [63.231.195.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 70EDE43F3F for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:04:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wolfryder@qwest.net) Received: (qmail 43153 invoked by uid 0); 20 Feb 2003 00:45:34 -0000 Received: from mpls-pop-02.inet.qwest.net (63.231.195.2) by mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net with QMQP; 20 Feb 2003 00:45:34 -0000 Received: from adsl189.omah.uswest.net (HELO wolf.qwest.net) (209.180.104.189) by mpls-pop-02.inet.qwest.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 01:04:05 -0000 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:08:33 -0600 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20030219185139.00a865f0@pop.omah.uswest.net> From: "WolfRyder" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Sender: wolfryder@pop.omah.uswest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Subject: Re: From newbie to newbie: Observations... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 06:07 PM 2/19/03 +0100, Henrik W Lund wrote: >Hi, my name is Henrik and I'm a FreeBSD newbie. Hey Henrik! I'm also a FreeBSD newbie and will probably consider myself one for a very long time to come! My experiences are in stereo as I am setting up 2 boxes at the same time. One is for work and the other is mine. They both are/will be webserver/database servers when I'm done with them. (or else they'll be piles of rubbish cause I have a sledge hammer around here somewhere ;-) ) Reinstalls...LOL! On 1 machine I've reinstalled 4 times, on the other 3 times. I kept messing up the makeworld/installworld part by not understanding mergemaster on mine. The server for my job had a problem with the hard drive that finally required me to zero it out, then the 3rd install/setup went beautifully. I also, thanks to this wonderful list, learned how to do backups to the zip drive (yeah!!) so anything I change in the /etc, /www, user/var or anywhere else can be safely backed up before I mess with anything else. What's really cool is actually remembering what commands are needed to do tasks like starting/stopping apache, editing configs and firewall files, making backup kernel configs, updating ports, restarting services and all sorts of things :-) I work with the command prompt because 1)I think that's the way most production UNIX machines are run, less memory-intensive that way and 2)these computers are strictly servers, not for desktop and don't need a graphical interface. That joy I'm saving for this machine (an NT) and I'll get around to converting when I feel more comfortable messing with FreeBSD :-) Ya'll Rock! Carol who goes back to setting up her server. The other is up and running and needs a little fine-tuning, but it works. Yeah! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 19 21: 4:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C32337B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:04:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from nyogtha.unknownkadath.net (nyogtha.unknownkadath.net [209.153.153.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AE543F93 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:04:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asenchi@asenchi.com) Received: from pale (12-245-211-155.client.attbi.com [12.245.211.155]) by nyogtha.unknownkadath.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h1K5GFfX085590; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:16:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Asenchi" To: "Henrik W Lund" , Subject: RE: From newbie to newbie: Observations... Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:01:42 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Newbies and Experts (who read this list for the rest of us) I have been working with fBSD nearly 2 years now and still feel like a newbie. But I am addicted to this OS. It is an amazing experience doing even the most trivial thing. For instance Monday I got my scroll wheel working! Granted I have never worked on it before, and it is a really easy thing to do, but once it was done I felt like I had accomplished something grand. I have a production firewall, and am working on an email and webserver solution for my work, everyone needs to use this OS! I want to thank everyone who works on this 'crack' for their hard work. I am trying to find ways to get involved whether with advocacy or committing, but either way I want everyone using this...even though there is a ways to go with an end-user desktop machine. I can honestly say that I don't understand Linux, but BSD is simple in comparison (the whole idea that is...). But I guess to each their own. For all you newbies, subscribe to all the mail lists (especially if you want to learn more and more...) there is a plethora of information out there and you can learn a ton. Later, My name is Curt Micol and I am a Daemoholic. I love FreeBSD. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Henrik W Lund > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:07 PM > To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: From newbie to newbie: Observations... > > > Hi, my name is Henrik and I'm a FreeBSD newbie. I would > like to share some > experiences and observations I have made during my run-ins > with UNIX OSs in > the past. I'm currently in my fourth inning, and have > finally gotten myself > together and produced a running, stable system. I choose to > still label > myself a newbie because I still scream in frustration every > day over some > mundane, essential task that must be done that I have no > idea how to go > about doing. > > In case you come from a "Windows" environment(like I did), > FreeBSD might > seem daunting at first. Whereas you are used to having the > computer scratch > your back and make you tea by the very flick of the power > switch, in UNIX > you are left with a rather simple looking (and often > cryptically labelled) > command prompt and a blinking cursor. None of the commands > that normally do > something, don't work at all, and if they do, they sure > don't do what you > expect them to! > > But don't panic (like I did) and run off screaming to get > your Windows CD > (like I did). > > First of all, calm down. Seek out sources of information > like this, the > FreeBSD website and others. And the most important thing; > read. The man > pages count in the thousands, so there's lots of good stuff > for the rainy > days. Wonder what dd does? A little hunting and pecking > will have "man dd" > typed in no time, and voila! > > Second, be prepared to reinstall the entire OS. Several > times. The tampering > of config files by careless newbies can wreak havoc on any system, > particularly a UNIX one. Reinstallation is frequently the > fastest, most > efficient way to get the system back up. > > Third, read point one again. It'll do you good. ;) > > Fourth, remember that at the end of the day, you can be > sure the sun will > rise in the morning regardless of whether or not you got > inetd set up the > way you liked, or if you even know what the heck inetd is. > > Take this message for what it is: one newbie trying to let > other newbies > know that "it's all right". ;) > > -Henrik, > FreeBSD newbie and fanatic :D > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Messenger http://www.msn.no/messenger - Den korteste > veien mellom deg og > dine venner > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 19 23: 3: 3 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA4637B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:03:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD5443F93 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:03:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davidkurtz@mail.mac.com) Received: from h-68-164-51-54.lsanca54.covad.net ([68.164.51.54] helo=192.168.1.3) by puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18lkjV-0007UU-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:03:01 -0800 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:03:04 -0800 From: David Kurtz Subject: USB dies To: FreeBSD Newbies X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.5.4 (Blindsider) X-ELNK-Trace: 60221961adadbd20239a348a220c260979929547a2e1330cb7bb08f853ff65bc2601a10902912494350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After several hours of FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE being on and running, my USB input dies. That is, I may have been working at the console, sit idle for some time, and come back to find that nothing I type on the keyboard is echoed on the screen. I can fix this easily enough by unplugging and plugging in again my keyboard, but I'd like to prevent it from happening at all. I'm a total FreeBSD- (and indeed, unix-admin-) newbie. Part of the problem is that it takes a lot of waiting for it to fail. Where should I start looking for clues? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 20 7:57: 2 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A9F37B401 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:56:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lsanca1-ar14-4-60-148-234.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net (lsanca1-ar14-4-60-148-234.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net [4.60.148.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD99F43F85 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:56:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from info-sem3@putin.ru) From: info_sem To: Freebsd-newbies Reply-To: infosem@rol.ru Subject: ПРИГЛАШЕНИЕ для участия в семинаре ПРОФЕССИОНАЛЬНОЕ ФИНАНСОВОЕ ПЛАНИРОВАНИЕ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030220155650.DD99F43F85@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:56:50 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ПРИГЛАШЕНИЕ ДЛЯ УЧАСТИЯ В ПРАКТИЧЕСКОМ ОБУЧАЮЩЕМ СЕМИНАРЕ
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Тема семинара:
«профессиональное финансовое планирование».
 
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все участницы семинара получают в подарок проф. блок
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предприятия).
 
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последующей выдачей квалификационного сертификата.
 
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3 день: 8 часов  4 день: 8 часов
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Название семинара:
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*  В подарок программа “Business Plan План М” (новая 1.4 версия).
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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 20 15:47:19 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCC737B405 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:47:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.omicnet.com (ip-208-181-72-171.adsl.radiant.net [208.181.72.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F5543FAF for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:47:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from inspector.us@omicnet.com) Received: from inspectorbox (130-94-160-46-dsl.hevanet.com [130.94.160.46]) by www.omicnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id PAA09828; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:47:09 -0800 From: "Joshua Lokken" To: "WolfRyder" , Subject: RE: From newbie to newbie: Observations... Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:47:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005E_01C2D8F7.3F9CFD50" In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030219185139.00a865f0@pop.omah.uswest.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C2D8F7.3F9CFD50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Indeed! Sounds like I'm not the only one out there! I've been at the BSD thing for a year and a half or so, but I approached it from the workstation/mutlimedia end, then went on to begin to learn about the server side. I'm running a 4.6.2 gateway, 4.7r web/(mail?)server, and two workstations, 4-stable and 5.0r. It's been nothing but rewarding, and I kick myself for all the time I spent totally ignorant of BSD. Reinstalls just seem to be the easiest, quickest way to restore a system after a foobar when you're in the learning stage. It seems that as you learn, reinstalling seems less necessary (unless you make sweeping permissions changes without understanding what you're doing) to correct most mistakes/problems. Yeah, FreeBSD rocks! It has really inspired me to learn more and more by putting a friendly face of sorts onto an intimidating set of tools. The documentation for FreeBSD and its related issues is absolutely incredible, and there are some brilliant folks supporting it. Thanks whole-heartedly to all the FreeBSD contributors, maintainers, staff, and users! Joshua > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of WolfRyder > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 5:09 PM > To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: From newbie to newbie: Observations... > > > At 06:07 PM 2/19/03 +0100, Henrik W Lund wrote: > >Hi, my name is Henrik and I'm a FreeBSD newbie. > > > Hey Henrik! > > I'm also a FreeBSD newbie and will probably consider myself > one for a very > long time to come! > > My experiences are in stereo as I am setting up 2 boxes at > the same time. > One is for work and the other is mine. They both are/will be > webserver/database servers when I'm done with them. (or else > they'll be > piles of rubbish cause I have a sledge hammer around here > somewhere ;-) ) > > Reinstalls...LOL! On 1 machine I've reinstalled 4 times, on > the other 3 > times. I kept messing up the makeworld/installworld part by not > understanding mergemaster on mine. The server for my job had > a problem with > the hard drive that finally required me to zero it out, then the 3rd > install/setup went beautifully. > > I also, thanks to this wonderful list, learned how to do > backups to the > zip drive (yeah!!) so anything I change in the /etc, /www, > user/var or > anywhere else can be safely backed up before I mess with > anything else. > > What's really cool is actually remembering what commands are > needed to do > tasks like starting/stopping apache, editing configs and > firewall files, > making backup kernel configs, updating ports, restarting > services and all > sorts of things :-) > > I work with the command prompt because 1)I think that's the way most > production UNIX machines are run, less memory-intensive that way and > 2)these computers are strictly servers, not for desktop and > don't need a > graphical interface. That joy I'm saving for this machine (an > NT) and I'll > get around to converting when I feel more comfortable messing > with FreeBSD :-) > > Ya'll Rock! > > Carol who goes back to setting up her server. The other is > up and running > and needs a little fine-tuning, but it works. 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It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. 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