From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 18 00:10:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB7A37B401; Sun, 18 May 2003 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [64.251.88.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F95B43F85; Sun, 18 May 2003 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AF4E0AE468; Sun, 18 May 2003 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030518071001.AF4E0AE468@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2003-04-27 - 2003-05-17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 07:10:03 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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These are the articles posted during this period: 10-May : Google blocking searches from unknown browsers I'm sure it'll be fixed soon http://freebsddiary.org/google-links-forbidden.php?2 1-May : New FreshPorts release brings interesting challenges Coding, blacklists, and stunnel... http://freebsddiary.org/freshports-release-2003.04.29.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 18 01:44:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EF737B401 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 01:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE0E43FA3 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 01:44:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Clan-Gaier@t-online.de) Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19HJmP-00088g-02; Sun, 18 May 2003 10:44:29 +0200 Received: from unix (320039445048-0001@[217.224.8.130]) by fwd02.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19HJmD-0Gvbg8C; Sun, 18 May 2003 10:44:17 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Clan-Gaier@t-online.de (Christian Gaier) To: FreeBSD for Newbies Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 10:43:57 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200305181043.57776.clan-gaier@t-online.de> X-Sender: 320039445048-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: Mousewheel X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 08:44:31 -0000 Who can support me for running my mousewheel on my FreeBSD 5.0 OS? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 18 01:48:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C5737B401 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 01:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-3.hut.fi (smtp-3.hut.fi [130.233.228.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA3943FFB for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 01:48:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhuvinen@lyta.hut.fi) Received: from lyta.hut.fi (lyta.hut.fi [130.233.228.21]) by smtp-3.hut.fi (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4I8m3Qc008340 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 11:48:03 +0300 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 11:48:03 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jukka Huvinen To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030517175224.GA63025@gothmog.gr> Message-ID: References: <20030517175224.GA63025@gothmog.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.3(snapshot 20030212) (smtp-3.hut.fi) X-DCC-HUTCC-Metrics: smtp-3.hut.fi 1165; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Subject: Re: Mouse freezes X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 08:48:06 -0000 On Sat, 17 May 2003, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2003-05-17 20:09, Jukka Huvinen wrote: > > > > My mouse freezes randomly under X !! > > Release 4.8, gdm + gnome. (Clean 4.8 install) > > > > The mouse freezes only when typing text and after random periof of time. > > Sometimes only in seconds (when typing text). > > > > /var/log/messages: (after crashing) > > May 17 18:53:56 limo /kernel: psmintr: delay too long; resetting byte count > > May 17 18:55:17 limo /kernel: psmintr: delay too long; resetting byte count > > This is answered in the FAQ already. Read the reply to the question: > > Why does my PS/2 mouse misbehave under X? > > Just point your browser at: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/x.html#PS2-X I have tried that already. (flags psm0 0x100, or 0x04, or combined 0x104) No help. > If that doesn't help you could always post a question to the > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org list :-) Ok. Thanks! -- Jukka From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 18 03:43:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109A737B401 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 03:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maila.telia.com (maila.telia.com [194.22.194.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1640643F3F for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 03:42:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@swedehost.com) Received: from d1o804.telia.com (d1o804.telia.com [213.64.67.241]) by maila.telia.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4IAgrx7011690; Sun, 18 May 2003 12:42:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-Recipient: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from thor.swedehost.com (h129n2fls33o804.telia.com [217.209.211.129]) by d1o804.telia.com (8.10.2p2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h4IAgqZ08200; Sun, 18 May 2003 12:42:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Hasse Hund Organization: The Valhalla Project To: Clan-Gaier@t-online.de (Christian Gaier), FreeBSD for Newbies Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 12:42:46 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200305181043.57776.clan-gaier@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <200305181043.57776.clan-gaier@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305181242.46440.webmaster@swedehost.com> Subject: Re: Mousewheel X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 10:43:04 -0000 On Sunday 18 May 2003 10.43, Christian Gaier wrote: > Who can support me for running my mousewheel on my FreeBSD 5.0 OS? > Hi Christian. This is what's working for me. It's only working with "Protocol" "Auto" Why ? I don't know :-) Edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config and try this : Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "Auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Buttons" "6" EndSection -- Regards Hasse webmaster@swedehost.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 18 09:47:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C90137B404 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 09:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14FE943FA3 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 09:47:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jimfarr@ntlworld.com) Received: from [192.168.0.11] ([80.5.64.79]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030518164737.BLWB311.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@[192.168.0.11]> for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 17:47:37 +0100 From: jimf To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 17:47:56 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200305181043.57776.clan-gaier@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <200305181043.57776.clan-gaier@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305181747.56905.jimfarr@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: Mousewheel X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 16:47:40 -0000 On Sunday 18 May 2003 9:43 am, Christian Gaier wrote: > Who can support me for running my mousewheel on my FreeBSD 5.0 this works with my Logitech TrackMan Marble +, 0n 4.8 RELEASE Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "SysMouse" Option "Emulate3Buttons" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "Buttons" "5" Option "Resolution" "100" EndSection jimf@graybox.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 18 14:23:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C8D37B401 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 14:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f150.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFFA143F85 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 14:23:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 18 May 2003 14:23:21 -0700 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 May 2003 21:23:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: simon.sdaej@virgin.net Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 21:23:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2003 21:23:21.0950 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5801FE0:01C31D83] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ps2 mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 21:23:23 -0000 >On Sat, 17 May 2003 11:16:23 "Simon Sharratt" >wrote: > > >Hi I am a newby trying to make sense of bsd 4.7 which I have just installed >on my system.My problem is I can't get the mouse to work,its a ps2 and I've >tried everything sugested ie use SysMouse or Mousesystems as sugested,I had >this triuble with Debian but I thought Id left that behind.Any suggestions? >I've looked at thebsd diary but haven't seen anything there, strangely I >thought my problems would start when I tried to configure my Nvidia >gforce440 but haven't got that far yet. >Hopfully Simon > Just to note: I have had similar problems related to a misconfigured video card XF86Config. If this is the case, you should get a cursor if you move the mouse at the command line, but nothing in X. (Actually, in my case, moving the mouse caused the edges of windows to bug out and was related to a wrong chipset.) Peace, Clayton PS. if you continue to have problems, try asking the -questions list. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 06:51:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F6637B401 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 06:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow053o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D10243FAF for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 06:51:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sphaleotas@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from pbncomputer ([213.48.235.104]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 19 May 2003 14:54:32 +0100 Message-ID: <006f01c31e0d$5e2e3300$68eb30d5@pbncomputer> From: "Michael Carr" To: Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 14:46:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Subject: GNOME and KDE included on FreeBSD Mall CDs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 13:51:33 -0000 Do the current four disk sets for 4.8 and 5.0 include the FreeBSD ports of GNOME and KDE? Thanks in advance, Michael From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 07:29:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67DA37B401 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 07:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BEBB43F93 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 07:29:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@bsdprophet.org) Received: from adsl-67-39-45-145.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net (HELO bsdprophet.org) (bsdprophet%sbcglobal.net@67.39.45.145 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 May 2003 14:29:32 -0000 Message-ID: <3EC8EA54.4050407@bsdprophet.org> Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 09:29:40 -0500 From: Scott Corey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030516 X-Accept-Language: en-us, ja, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Carr References: <006f01c31e0d$5e2e3300$68eb30d5@pbncomputer> In-Reply-To: <006f01c31e0d$5e2e3300$68eb30d5@pbncomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GNOME and KDE included on FreeBSD Mall CDs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 14:29:34 -0000 Michael Carr wrote: > Do the current four disk sets for 4.8 and 5.0 include the FreeBSD ports of > GNOME and KDE? > > Thanks in advance, > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" yes From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 07:38:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FCA737B401 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 07:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow053o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31AA843F3F for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 07:38:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sphaleotas@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from pbncomputer ([62.30.24.178]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 19 May 2003 15:41:06 +0100 Message-ID: <00c501c31e13$d2ef0ec0$68eb30d5@pbncomputer> From: "Michael Carr" To: "Scott Corey" References: <006f01c31e0d$5e2e3300$68eb30d5@pbncomputer> <3EC8EA54.4050407@bsdprophet.org> Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 15:34:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GNOME and KDE included on FreeBSD Mall CDs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 14:38:21 -0000 You're a gent. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 08:08:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B7337B401 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 08:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web20309.mail.yahoo.com (web20309.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E73343F3F for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 08:08:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rstunna1@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030519150843.45299.qmail@web20309.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.128.166.68] by web20309.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 May 2003 08:08:43 PDT Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 08:08:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Rodney Salomon To: Tom , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200305170135.28855.tsasser@terra.cl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: learning on our own X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 15:08:44 -0000 Thanks, ill definitely look into this book! --- Tom wrote: > hi all, > > i just read the FreeBSD Newbies FAK again. something > came to mind about a book > that i have been reading. > > there is a book called _Understanding Unix/Linux > Programming: A Guide to > Theory and Practice_. it was written by Bruce > Molay. it covers unix system > programming from the beginning system programmer's > perspective. > > generally, a book like this is not for newbies. it > does require that you have > some experience with the c programming language. > so, why do i mention this? > > this book is absolutely BEAUTIFUL for learning the > Unix Way. it introduces > basic system programming concepts by showing the > reader how to write common > unix programs like ls. in my opinion, understanding > the building blocks of > unix is essential for understanding how to get unix > to behave in a way that > you like. > > what i find so neat about the book is that it > teaches you how to ask questions > of unix...and get the answers. you literally learn > how to research a problem > with this book. it divides up the problems up as > follows: 1) "what does the > unix program do?" ( like ls ), 2) "how does the > program ls do it?" and 3) > "can i write ls?" this is great because he shows > you how to investigate the > problem and find the answer on the system--usually > through reading the online > manuals and observing the behavior of the program. > > remember, computers are dumber than blades of grass! > but, if programmed > properly, they will tell you what they want. so, if > you are seeing an error > on the screen, it's really telling you what it > wanted ( but it may look like > gibberish ). it's up to you to reseach the > "gibberish" in order to solve the > problem. that means you actually have to read the > error ( sometimes even > save it )...because there may be keywords in the > error that you can use in > your search. > > needless to say, being able to investigate a problem > and build your own answer > is essential in unix...regardless of the > problem...from web servers to > configuring a boot loader. as i go through the book > and look at the > problems, i go through this procedure...and i learn > more about what goes on > behind the scenes. reading the online help ( > man-pages ) is humbling, but > you really start to get a feel for how unix works. > > i HIGHLY recommend that most newbies at least read > the first several chapters. > you will become familiar with the paradigm. skip > the code if you have to; > you can also just read the program comments. the > goal is to understand how > to research a problem, not necessarily code in c. > molay puts lots of > comments in the code, so you won't get lost. > > i cannot stress this point enough: if you use the > problem solving techniques > shown in this book, you can solve any problem that > you come across on your > bsd system. > > good luck and happy hacking! > > --tom > > GAIM: cREbralFIX > yahoo messenger: cREbralFIX > www.linuxtechies.org ( yes, one of them! ) > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ===== Look at all the pretty C shells! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 08:55:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514B837B40E for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 08:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow058o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0AA43FE5 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 08:55:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sphaleotas@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from pbncomputer ([213.48.232.102]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 19 May 2003 16:55:28 +0100 Message-ID: <013901c31e1e$92bcba40$68eb30d5@pbncomputer> From: "Michael Carr" To: Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 16:51:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Subject: CoderWeavers CrossOver Office and Plugin on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 15:55:33 -0000 Haven't seen this mentioned on any of the lists, so... From: Michael Carr To: Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 2:54 PM Subject: CrossOver on FreeBSD | Dear Zak, | | I was wondering whether CodeWeavers has any plans to port Office and | Plugin to FreeBSD. | | Regards, | | Michael Carr From: "Zak" To: Michael Carr Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 3:52 PM Subject: Re: CrossOver on FreeBSD | Michael, | | We are working on a BSD version, it should be forthcoming later this | year hopefully. | | -Zak From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 10:54:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A700637B401 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 10:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEEE43F85 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 10:54:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Clan-Gaier@t-online.de) Received: from fwd09.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19HoqL-0002fS-05; Mon, 19 May 2003 19:54:37 +0200 Received: from unix (320039445048-0001@[217.224.12.195]) by fwd09.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19HoqE-0dUiWGC; Mon, 19 May 2003 19:54:30 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Clan-Gaier@t-online.de (Christian Gaier) To: FreeBSD for Newbies Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 19:54:15 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200305191954.15516.clan-gaier@t-online.de> X-Sender: 320039445048-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: Grub X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 17:54:40 -0000 Hallo, wer kann mir helfen den Grub so zu konfigurieren, das er mein Windows XP von der 2. Festplatte bootet? --=20 Christian Gaier Holzgraben 32 90574 Ro=DFtal From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 11:20:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3660C37B401 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 11:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6603A43F85 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 11:20:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manfred.lotz@web.de) Received: from [213.23.219.61] (helo=wizard.sanskrit.local.net) by smtp.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.98 #232) id 19HpFP-0002am-00; Mon, 19 May 2003 20:20:31 +0200 Received: from localhost.sanskrit.local.net (localhost.sanskrit.local.net [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.sanskrit.local.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FD3320B2; Mon, 19 May 2003 20:20:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Manfred Lotz To: Clan-Gaier@t-online.de (Christian Gaier), FreeBSD for Newbies Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 20:20:29 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200305191954.15516.clan-gaier@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <200305191954.15516.clan-gaier@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305192020.29965.manfred.lotz@web.de> Sender: manfred.lotz@web.de Subject: Re: Grub X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 18:20:34 -0000 On Monday 19 May 2003 19:54, Christian Gaier wrote: > Hallo, > wer kann mir helfen den Grub so zu konfigurieren, > das er mein Windows XP von der 2. Festplatte bootet? Ich habe sowas mal gemacht, indem ich folgenden Eintrag in die menu.lst gepflanzt hatte: title windows map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) root (hd1,0) makeactive chainloader +1 Probier's mal. Manfred From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 13:31:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5C737B404 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 13:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow058o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C0243F85 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 13:31:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sphaleotas@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from pbncomputer ([62.30.24.178]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 19 May 2003 15:40:37 +0100 Message-ID: <00d101c31e14$2d962660$68eb30d5@pbncomputer> From: "Michael Carr" To: References: <006f01c31e0d$5e2e3300$68eb30d5@pbncomputer> Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 15:37:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GNOME and KDE included on FreeBSD Mall CDs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 20:31:26 -0000 You too, John. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 14:05:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F81937B401 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 14:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0396C43F3F for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 14:05:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from lexx ([62.31.198.203]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 19 May 2003 15:37:33 +0100 From: John Murphy To: "Michael Carr" Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 15:37:31 +0100 Message-ID: References: <006f01c31e0d$5e2e3300$68eb30d5@pbncomputer> In-Reply-To: <006f01c31e0d$5e2e3300$68eb30d5@pbncomputer> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.9/32.560 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GNOME and KDE included on FreeBSD Mall CDs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 21:05:52 -0000 "Michael Carr" wrote: >Do the current four disk sets for 4.8 and 5.0 include the FreeBSD ports = of >GNOME and KDE? Yes. In fact the packages (binary distribution of the ports) for those = two are on disk 1 of each set: Disk 1 of 4.8 set: gnome2-2.2.0.tgz kde-3.1.tgz Disk 1 of 5.0 set: gnome2-2.0_6.tbz kde-3.0.5.tbz Greetings from another blueyonderer :) John. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 15:47:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17F137B401 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 15:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6BD43FDD for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 15:47:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from failte@sentex.net) Received: from granite.sentex.ca (ns.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4JMlR4M041085; Mon, 19 May 2003 18:47:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from failte@sentex.net) Received: from 64.7.157.38 (p37xji.dsl2.sentex.ca [64.7.157.38]) by granite.sentex.ca (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4JMlROc086883; Mon, 19 May 2003 18:47:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from failte@sentex.net) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 18:47:41 -0400 From: Trish X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1302153413.20030519184741@sentex.net> To: Frederick Johnson In-Reply-To: <20030517123511.91575.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030517123511.91575.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: To freeBSD or not freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Trish List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 22:47:31 -0000 Hello Frederick, Steve et al, Well, I hope this topic wasn't too hard on too many inboxes. :) I appreciate the varied and detailed responses, I certainly got the answers I was looking for and then some, especially from those whose jobs are similar to mine. While I have a bit more research to do to be absolutely comfortable with what I spend my time on, seems like my son's advice to freeBSD was solid. Thanks, all. Trish Saturday, May 17, 2003, 8:35:11 AM, you wrote: FJ> --- Trish wrote: > Hello freebsd-newbies, >> >> I'm wondering why you picked freeBSD over other distros. I'm >> getting ready to build my first Linux box and I admit, I have not fully >> researched all the options yet, but am looking at freeBSD on the >> recommendation of, well, my son. I take him seriously as he is >> already running linux (though not freeBSD as yet - that's his and >> my upcoming project), he and his friends are no slouches at this stuff, >> typical techie teenagers, and have the time to >> do such things. I have less. However, I'm interested in what the >> actual user community has to say. >> >> I get the impression there is significant support available, apps and >> drivers are available and configurable >> and it's not a nightmare to run. But that's just an impression and >> I haven't compared it enough with anything else. >> >> So if anyone cares to venture a point of view, I'd be interested to >> hear it. Thanks! :) >> >> -- >> Trish FJ> These topics are killers! I can feel my inbox getting full already... FJ> I have tried Mandrake, Debian and Slackware... neither of them stayed on for FJ> longer than 2 months (for various reasons)... One thing I particularly didnt FJ> like about Linux is whenever I went to configure/mess around with something FJ> (which I did/do a lot) I always got these descriptions saying (blah blah) 'this FJ> is a mix of BSD and systemV, we put some things here and other things here, oh, FJ> and this is something that we designed ourselves over here etc'. I have found FJ> FreeBSD to be very organised and easy to understand, which really suprised FJ> me... I thought being some hardcore UNIX distro meant that only people with an FJ> equally hardcore understanding of UNIX would be able to use it! :) There are FJ> many other things which I dont like about Linux and love about FreeBSD... I FJ> could go on forever about the subject... FJ> I know people say FreeBSD is the fastest, stablest, most functional OS out FJ> there... from what I have experienced so far I am begining to believe them. :) FJ> ...is there an advocacy mailing list? :) FJ> Fred FJ> ===== FJ> worry is a missuse of imagination FJ> http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Mobile FJ> - Check & compose your email via SMS on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile. FJ> _______________________________________________ FJ> freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list FJ> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies FJ> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Best regards, Trish mailto:failte@sentex.net From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 20 08:07:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81ABB37B401 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 08:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.home.se (smtp2.home.se [213.214.194.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3816C43F85 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 08:07:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lasse.lindgren@home.se) Received: from gimli lasse.lindgren@home.se [213.100.111.32] Novell NetWare; Tue, 20 May 2003 16:06:52 -119304547 Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 17:30:16 +0200 From: lasse To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030520173016.5e3aae7d.lasse.lindgren@home.se> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.11 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Handling of ports, and naming convention? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 15:07:35 -0000 Hello! A fresh installation of 5.0 are now up and running, there are som issues that i wonder about 1. I must be able to login by the serial port, but i cant by default, why? and here can i cange it? 2. Ports, how do i know i i got the latest set of ports? and if there are new ports out, can i upgrade all ports in one step? (apt-get dist-upgrade) (the debian way) 3. Where can i find a good howto about recompile the kernel? (step by step, but not for dummies) 4. Are there any i-left-linux-for-bsd guides? ide,serial,scsi namingconventios ? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 20 08:32:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6770737B401 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 08:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3879743FB1 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 08:32:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matthias.sz@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 17347 invoked by uid 65534); 20 May 2003 15:32:35 -0000 Received: from pD9E3C793.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.0.6]) (217.227.199.147) by mail.gmx.net (mp014-rz3) with SMTP; 20 May 2003 17:32:35 +0200 From: Matthias Szupryczynski To: freeBSD-newbies In-Reply-To: <20030520173016.5e3aae7d.lasse.lindgren@home.se> References: <20030520173016.5e3aae7d.lasse.lindgren@home.se> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1053444680.1405.60.camel@arwen.lindenstrasse> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Date: 20 May 2003 17:31:20 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Handling of ports, and naming convention? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: matthias.sz@gmx.net List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 15:32:39 -0000 Hi, On Tue, 2003-05-20 at 17:30, lasse wrote: > 2. Ports, how do i know i i got the latest set of ports? and if there > are new ports out, can i upgrade all ports in one step? to get the latest version of the ports tree, use cvsup (see man cvsup or the handbook for more detailed information). To upgrade all installed ports to their latest version, use portupgrade (which you can find under /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade). The man pages tells you all you have to know, as far as I remember, portupgrade -a will update every installed port. > 3. Where can i find a good howto about recompile the kernel? > (step by step, but not for dummies) Look at the Makefile found under /usr/src .. you should find quite a few interesting notes there, including a step by step guide what to do to get the system and the kernel up-to-date. HTH Matt From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 20 08:36:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FBB37B401 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 08:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.uits.uconn.edu (mail2.uits.uconn.edu [137.99.25.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7EB43F75 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 08:36:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@forsetti.com) Received: from forsetti.com (d80h149.public.uconn.edu [137.99.80.149]) by mail2.uits.uconn.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4KFag211092 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 11:36:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3ECA4B89.5020502@forsetti.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 11:36:41 -0400 From: Matthew Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030509 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <20030520173016.5e3aae7d.lasse.lindgren@home.se> In-Reply-To: <20030520173016.5e3aae7d.lasse.lindgren@home.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: Subject: Re: Handling of ports, and naming convention? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 15:36:46 -0000 lasse wrote: >2. Ports, how do i know i i got the latest set of ports? and if there are new ports out, can i upgrade all ports in one step? (apt-get dist-upgrade) (the debian way) > /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade -- a whole set of tools to do exactly what you are looking for >3. Where can i find a good howto about recompile the kernel? (step by step, but not for dummies) > Chapter 9 of the FreeBSD handbook http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html I'll leave 1 and 4 up to the more knowledgeable... -Matt From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 20 12:00:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BE837B401 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 12:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl (prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl [194.29.178.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257B743FBD for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 12:00:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from G.Czaplinski@prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl) Received: from localhost (localhost.mini.pw.edu.pl [127.0.0.1]) by prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF5A243D2; Tue, 20 May 2003 21:00:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: by prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl (Postfix, from userid 1368) id 8EF60243D6; Tue, 20 May 2003 21:00:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 21:00:13 +0200 From: Grzegorz Czaplinski To: lasse Message-ID: <20030520190013.GA73336@prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl> References: <20030520173016.5e3aae7d.lasse.lindgren@home.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030520173016.5e3aae7d.lasse.lindgren@home.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP: http://prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl/~gregory/pgp.txt X-3w: http://prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl/~gregory/ X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS (prioris) cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handling of ports, and naming convention? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 19:00:22 -0000 --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 05:30:16PM +0200, lasse wrote: > Hello!=20 > A fresh installation of 5.0 are now up and running, there are som issues = that i wonder about=20 > 1. I must be able to login by the serial port, but i cant by default, why= ? and here can i cange it? > 2. Ports, how do i know i i got the latest set of ports? and if there are= new ports out, can i upgrade all ports in one step? (apt-get dist-upgrade)= (the debian way) > 3. Where can i find a good howto about recompile the kernel? (step by st= ep, but not for dummies) > 4. Are there any i-left-linux-for-bsd guides? ide,serial,scsi namingconve= ntios ? Hi there! All of your questions are already answered in the handbook. OK, I will help you with question 1 and 4. 1. Go here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/term.html 4. Go there: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks.html For better understanding read all from=20 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ Cheers, Grzegorz -- Grzegorz Czaplinski "The Power to Serve, Right for the Power Users!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ Fingerprint: EB77 E19D CFA2 5736 810F 847C A70F A275 2489 469F --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj7KezwACgkQpw+idSSJRp9VrACgygVZsxIKdsL5MbY3n9UXv6jD jnMAn2sYEmWjSxBr8ajKtGZftnne21kn =F/vP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 20 22:42:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B7637B401 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 22:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nycsmtp5out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp5out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313BE43FA3 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 22:41:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asolomon15@nyc.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (24-193-64-140.nyc.rr.com [24.193.64.140]) 1.0) with ESMTP id h4L5fwRq014388 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 01:41:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Antoine To: freeBSD-newbies Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-10) Date: 21 May 2003 01:44:06 -0400 Message-Id: <1053495847.1193.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: problems with xf86cfg X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 05:42:00 -0000 Hello everyone I am trying to install freebsd 5.0 on an older system that I have. I try to configure the my nvidia tnt2 card using the xf86cfg utility. I keep getting an error with it What should I do? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 21 04:10:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F1537B401 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 04:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (mta8-svc.business.ntl.com [62.253.164.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90FA43F93 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 04:10:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon.sdaej@virgin.net) Received: from simon ([81.103.216.133]) by mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030521111012.XNKD293.mta8-svc.business.ntl.com@simon> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 12:10:12 +0100 Message-ID: <002301c31f88$f18d79e0$639ffea9@sdaej> From: "Simon Sharratt" To: Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 12:04:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: nvidia tnt2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 11:10:16 -0000 Hi Antoine I,m probably not the best person to answer this as I'm a newby but I've = had a lot of trouble trying to set up a geforce mx 440 I can't get it to = run using the nv driver that xf86cfg chooses and as yet have only been = able to get it to run using the vesa driver and then at only 640 by 480 = so I've a long way to go, but this might get you started. Simon From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 21 05:40:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE30C37B4BE for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 05:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6428D43F85 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 05:40:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@coreyair.com) Received: from adsl-67-39-45-145.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net (HELO coreyair.com) (bsdprophet%sbcglobal.net@67.39.45.145 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 May 2003 12:40:15 -0000 Message-ID: <3ECB73C8.4090405@coreyair.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 07:40:40 -0500 From: "Scott B. Corey" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030516 X-Accept-Language: en-us, ja, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antoine References: <1053495847.1193.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1053495847.1193.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freeBSD-newbies Subject: Re: problems with xf86cfg X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 12:40:16 -0000 Read the Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html Antoine wrote: > Hello everyone > > I am trying to install freebsd 5.0 on an older system that I have. I > try to configure the my nvidia tnt2 card using the xf86cfg utility. I > keep getting an error with it What should I do? > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 21 05:55:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1586337B401 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 05:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D687043FA3 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 05:55:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from camaleon@xs4all.nl) Received: from medkat (194-109-252-19.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.252.19]) by smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4LCsw50094011 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 14:54:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <002001c31f98$32259640$9600000a@medkat> From: "camaleon" To: "freebsd-newbies" Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 14:55:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: minimum system requirements X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 12:55:03 -0000 Hi, I'm new here, but right away I do have a question that can lead to many answers (or even none at all ;) I am considering installing FreeBSD on a very old machine, but I'm not sure if that will succeed. The reason for this is fun (to begin with) and perhaps later a very modest internet server in a small home network connected to the internet via a multiport ADSL modem. Another reason is using an operating system that has staying power and has proven itself in the past and that can be configuered both as a webserver and as an email server. The system is a 486DX2 66 MHz, with (only) 14 Mbs of RAM, a (recent) cd-rom drive and a harddisk of (only) 325 Mb. There are two floppy drives, a 3.5 inch and a 5.25 inch. The videocard is a Western Digital with a something-C33 chipset (if I remember well, couldn't find the manual right now). There is a SB 16 AWE-32 PnP soundcard, a 3Com 3C509b ethernet card and an Edimax ethernet card installed, both ethernet cards can be set to either PnP-modus or non-PnP-modus. I have the experience of installing Slackware on this machine, allthough the hard drive space was larger in the past, where a second drive of respectively 421 Mb (and Slackware 3.6 and 4.0), 1,5 Gb (and Slackware 7.0), and 20 Gb (with Slackware 7.0 and 7.1) used to be installed (I want to remove the 20 Gb drive to use it in another machine). I did configure a small webserver with apache on this configuration(s) and an email server with sendmail. Will it be feasable with this little hard drive capacity and this little memory resources? - camaleon :) From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 21 07:36:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDE837B401 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 07:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpzilla1.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0A643FB1 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 07:36:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from camaleon@xs4all.nl) Received: from medkat (194-109-252-19.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.252.19]) by smtpzilla1.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4LEa1BC011510 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 16:36:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <003e01c31fa6$4f2ff100$9600000a@medkat> From: "camaleon" To: "freebsd-newbies" References: <002001c31f98$32259640$9600000a@medkat> <004801c31fa1$d478fb40$0229c80a@abtec412> Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 16:36:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: minimum system requirements X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 14:36:04 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pablo Morales" To: "camaleon" ; "freebsd-newbies" Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 4:04 PM Subject: Re: minimum system requirements > I installed freebsd on a 486 wth 8 megas of RAM But perhaps with more hard disk space than a mere 325 Mbs? With Linux installations (and I've done ones with SuSE and Debian distributions as well on that hardware to find out which one suited my demands best) this aspect can be a troublesome bottleneck. I.e. chosing which applications to install because they are needed, and which ones can be missed out. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "camaleon" > To: "freebsd-newbies" > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 9:55 AM > Subject: minimum system requirements > > > Hi, I'm new here, but right away I do have a question > that can lead to many answers (or even none at all ;) > > I am considering installing FreeBSD on a very old machine, > but I'm not sure if that will succeed. The reason for this > is fun (to begin with) and perhaps later a very modest > internet server in a small home network connected to the > internet via a multiport ADSL modem. Another reason is > using an operating system that has staying power and has > proven itself in the past and that can be configuered both > as a webserver and as an email server. > > The system is a 486DX2 66 MHz, with (only) 14 Mbs of RAM, > a (recent) cd-rom drive and a harddisk of (only) 325 Mb. > There are two floppy drives, a 3.5 inch and a 5.25 inch. > The videocard is a Western Digital with a something-C33 > chipset (if I remember well, couldn't find the manual > right now). There is a SB 16 AWE-32 PnP soundcard, a > 3Com 3C509b ethernet card and an Edimax ethernet card > installed, both ethernet cards can be set to either PnP-modus > or non-PnP-modus. > > I have the experience of installing Slackware on this > machine, allthough the hard drive space was larger in the > past, where a second drive of respectively 421 Mb (and > Slackware 3.6 and 4.0), 1,5 Gb (and Slackware 7.0), and 20 Gb > (with Slackware 7.0 and 7.1) used to be installed > (I want to remove the 20 Gb drive to use it in another > machine). I did configure a small webserver with apache on this > configuration(s) and an email server with sendmail. > > Will it be feasable with this little hard drive capacity and > this little memory resources? - camaleon :] From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 21 08:53:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D219137B408 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 08:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from simmts3-srv.bellnexxia.net (simmts3.bellnexxia.net [206.47.199.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E3E43FA3 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 08:53:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ellen.macisaac@ns.sympatico.ca) Received: from ns.sympatico.ca ([142.177.113.208]) by simmts3-srv.bellnexxia.netESMTP <20030521155307.XJYT7672.simmts3-srv.bellnexxia.net@ns.sympatico.ca>; Wed, 21 May 2003 11:53:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3ECBB074.9010601@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 12:59:32 -0400 From: Zer0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: camaleon References: <002001c31f98$32259640$9600000a@medkat> In-Reply-To: <002001c31f98$32259640$9600000a@medkat> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.74.3.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies Subject: Re: minimum system requirements X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 15:53:12 -0000 camaleon wrote: >Hi, I'm new here, but right away I do have a question >that can lead to many answers (or even none at all ;) > >I am considering installing FreeBSD on a very old machine, >but I'm not sure if that will succeed. The reason for this >is fun (to begin with) and perhaps later a very modest >internet server in a small home network connected to the >internet via a multiport ADSL modem. Another reason is >using an operating system that has staying power and has >proven itself in the past and that can be configuered both >as a webserver and as an email server. > >The system is a 486DX2 66 MHz, with (only) 14 Mbs of RAM, >a (recent) cd-rom drive and a harddisk of (only) 325 Mb. >There are two floppy drives, a 3.5 inch and a 5.25 inch. >The videocard is a Western Digital with a something-C33 >chipset (if I remember well, couldn't find the manual >right now). There is a SB 16 AWE-32 PnP soundcard, a >3Com 3C509b ethernet card and an Edimax ethernet card >installed, both ethernet cards can be set to either PnP-modus >or non-PnP-modus. > >I have the experience of installing Slackware on this >machine, allthough the hard drive space was larger in the >past, where a second drive of respectively 421 Mb (and >Slackware 3.6 and 4.0), 1,5 Gb (and Slackware 7.0), and 20 Gb >(with Slackware 7.0 and 7.1) used to be installed >(I want to remove the 20 Gb drive to use it in another >machine). I did configure a small webserver with apache on this >configuration(s) and an email server with sendmail. > >Will it be feasable with this little hard drive capacity and >this little memory resources? > >- camaleon :) > Take a look at http://neon1.net/misc/minibsd.html I can't as yet vouch for the feasibility of this as I have yet to try it myself but it might be a nudge in the right direction. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 21 09:45:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24ECF37B401 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 09:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f128.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31EF43F93 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 09:45:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 May 2003 09:45:43 -0700 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 May 2003 16:45:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: asolomon15@nyc.rr.com Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 16:45:43 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2003 16:45:43.0468 (UTC) FILETIME=[6B82BEC0:01C31FB8] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with xf86cfg X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 16:45:44 -0000 On 21 May 2003 Antoine wrote: > > >Hello everyone > >I am trying to install freebsd 5.0 on an older system that I have. I >try to configure the my nvidia tnt2 card using the xf86cfg utility. I >keep getting an error with it What should I do? > > Hi Antoine, If you've already read the handbook section on how to do this, you should write a post, including any error output, and send it to -questions. (You'll get the answers you want there.) You should probably include a bit more info about the situation. (Like what driver you're using, what does /etc/X11/XF86Config say about the card, etc.) If the error occurs while starting X, include any relevant lines from /var/log/XFree86.0.log. Hope you get it figured out, Clayton _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 21 19:36:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFFE37B401 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 19:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.86.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7836443F75 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 19:36:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mj001@rogers.com) Received: from rogers.com ([24.101.253.54]) by fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.comESMTP <20030522023555.KARN261090.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@rogers.com>; Wed, 21 May 2003 22:35:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3ECC3792.9040502@rogers.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 22:36:02 -0400 From: mj001 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20021005 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zer0 References: <002001c31f98$32259640$9600000a@medkat> <3ECBB074.9010601@ns.sympatico.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.101.253.54] using ID at Wed, 21 May 2003 22:35:54 -0400 cc: camaleon cc: freebsd-newbies Subject: Re: minimum system requirements X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 02:36:08 -0000 Zer0 wrote: > camaleon wrote: > >> Hi, I'm new here, but right away I do have a question >> that can lead to many answers (or even none at all ;) >> >> I am considering installing FreeBSD on a very old machine, >> but I'm not sure if that will succeed. The reason for this >> is fun (to begin with) and perhaps later a very modest >> internet server in a small home network connected to the >> internet via a multiport ADSL modem. Another reason is >> using an operating system that has staying power and has >> proven itself in the past and that can be configuered both >> as a webserver and as an email server. >> >> The system is a 486DX2 66 MHz, with (only) 14 Mbs of RAM, >> a (recent) cd-rom drive and a harddisk of (only) 325 Mb. >> There are two floppy drives, a 3.5 inch and a 5.25 inch. >> The videocard is a Western Digital with a something-C33 >> chipset (if I remember well, couldn't find the manual >> right now). There is a SB 16 AWE-32 PnP soundcard, a >> 3Com 3C509b ethernet card and an Edimax ethernet card >> installed, both ethernet cards can be set to either PnP-modus >> or non-PnP-modus. >> >> I have the experience of installing Slackware on this >> machine, allthough the hard drive space was larger in the >> past, where a second drive of respectively 421 Mb (and >> Slackware 3.6 and 4.0), 1,5 Gb (and Slackware 7.0), and 20 Gb >> (with Slackware 7.0 and 7.1) used to be installed >> (I want to remove the 20 Gb drive to use it in another >> machine). I did configure a small webserver with apache on this >> configuration(s) and an email server with sendmail. >> >> Will it be feasable with this little hard drive capacity and >> this little memory resources? >> >> - camaleon :) >> > Take a look at http://neon1.net/misc/minibsd.html > I can't as yet vouch for the feasibility of this as I have yet to try it > myself but it might be a nudge in the right direction. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I used to run FreeBSD (2.1.5!) on a 486DX33 with 20 MB of memory, and a 200 MB disk. It would even run X Windows, but this was before the days of KDE or GNOME. As I remember, I did get it to run with 8 MB, including X-Windows, but it was pathetically slow. At 20 MB, the performance improved considerably. I think you will be fine if you don't need X-Windows. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 23 15:24:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F63937B401 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 15:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailc.telia.com (mailc.telia.com [194.22.190.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95ED343FBD for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 15:24:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mats.svensson2@telia.com) Received: from d1o1073.telia.com (d1o1073.telia.com [212.181.129.241]) by mailc.telia.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4NMOo4D023903 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 00:24:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-Recipient: Received: from dagger.hell (h178n1fls22o1073.telia.com [212.181.128.178]) by d1o1073.telia.com (8.10.2p2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h4NMOnB27322 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 00:24:50 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Mats Organization: carnal-cathedral To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 00:24:59 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200305240024.59140.mats.svensson2@telia.com> Subject: foreign letters X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mats.svensson2@telia.ocm List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 22:24:52 -0000 Hi I'm from Sweden and we have three more letters in our alphabet than you=20 english-speaking people. When I use X there is no problem with that, but = when=20 I use VI in textmode it gives problems, I don't get the right ascii-signs= =2E=20 When I was using linux slackware (I still have a slackware partition) I=20 solved the problem with a file called .inputrc in the homedirectory=20 containing this: set meta-flag on set convert-meta off set output-meta on This is of course not a problem when using free bsd because it doesn't=20 understand my language anyway, but I want to write swedish texts in VI in= =20 textmode. /greetings from the country of the midnight sin /Mats=20 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 23 16:17:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40E637B401 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 16:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A89443F3F for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 16:17:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@bsdprophet.org) Received: from adsl-67-39-36-114.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net (HELO bsdprophet.org) (bsdprophet%sbcglobal.net@67.39.36.114 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 May 2003 23:17:44 -0000 Message-ID: <3ECEAC1A.9080500@bsdprophet.org> Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 18:17:46 -0500 From: Scott Corey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030516 X-Accept-Language: en-us, ja, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mats.svensson2@telia.ocm References: <200305240024.59140.mats.svensson2@telia.com> In-Reply-To: <200305240024.59140.mats.svensson2@telia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: foreign letters X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 23:17:45 -0000 This should help you solve your problem: http://www.se.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/l10n.html Mats wrote: > Hi > > I'm from Sweden and we have three more letters in our alphabet than you > english-speaking people. When I use X there is no problem with that, but when > I use VI in textmode it gives problems, I don't get the right ascii-signs. > When I was using linux slackware (I still have a slackware partition) I > solved the problem with a file called .inputrc in the homedirectory > containing this: > set meta-flag on > set convert-meta off > set output-meta on > > This is of course not a problem when using free bsd because it doesn't > understand my language anyway, but I want to write swedish texts in VI in > textmode. > > /greetings from the country of the midnight sin > /Mats > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 23 19:10:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A26537B401 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFAB43F85 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:10:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4O2ABUp065902 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:10:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4O2ABtR065901 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 19:10:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200305240210.h4O2ABtR065901@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies FAK X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 02:10:12 -0000 FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://people.freebsd.org/~sue/newbies/fak.html FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. It is particularly important to send all installation questions and answers to FreeBSD-Questions so that they only appear in one place. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for FreeBSD help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. We can help people to use the FreeBSD mailing lists and resources, or to interact more productively with the broader FreeBSD community. These are not support questions, and not technical, so we deal with them here. Everyone can help with these new user orientation requests. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ Mailing list membership To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Use the easy form at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies to subscribe to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list, or to change your subscription details if you are already a member. To Unsubscribe from FreeBSD-Newbies: To stop receiving list emails, simply follow the unsubscribe link that appears at the bottom of each email you receive from the mailing list. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org is distributed to all members of the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 23 20:12:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A91B37B401 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 20:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atribuna.com.br (sonic.atribunainternet.com.br [200.210.166.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A1943F3F for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 20:12:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from f2b@atribuna.com.br) Received: from atribuna.com.br (200-158-132-214.dsl.telesp.net.br [200.158.132.214]) by atribuna.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1949438808F for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 00:12:40 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <3ECEE4CC.8040202@atribuna.com.br> Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 00:19:40 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thiago_Silva_Concei=E7=E3o?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020918 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Doubts X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 03:12:44 -0000 Hi, I've installed FreeBSD here, I have come from Linux so I am still adaptating. I have some doubts: - How often the ports collection get updated? Is it whenever a new release is out or constantly? - How do I do to update all the applications I have installed? I did the "make world" thing here but It seems it doesn't update things like gnome, XFree, kde and so on, or maybe I'm wrong. Something like 'apt-get upgrade' from Debian Linux. - Is it possible to configure the console while in text mode to display characters from other languages? I tried to configure the console font and language through sysinstall but It didn't worked. My home language is brazilian portuguese. - There is an annoying thing on emacs. The backspace button doesn't work as it usually do on other systems (erasing the last typed character). How do I change this? Best regards, Thiago From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 23 20:57:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15FD037B401 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 20:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp806.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp806.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DE2743FB1 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 20:57:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@bsdprophet.org) Received: from adsl-67-39-36-114.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net (HELO bsdprophet.org) (bsdprophet%sbcglobal.net@67.39.36.114 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 May 2003 03:57:07 -0000 Message-ID: <3ECEED92.1040306@bsdprophet.org> Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 22:57:06 -0500 From: Scott Corey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030516 X-Accept-Language: en-us, ja, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thiago_Silva_Concei=E7=E3o?= References: <3ECEE4CC.8040202@atribuna.com.br> In-Reply-To: <3ECEE4CC.8040202@atribuna.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Doubts X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 03:57:08 -0000 Thiago Silva Conceição wrote: > Hi, > > I've installed FreeBSD here, I have come from Linux so I am still > adaptating. I have some doubts: > > - How often the ports collection get updated? Is it whenever a new > release is out or constantly? Constantly > > - How do I do to update all the applications I have installed? I did the > "make world" thing here but It seems it doesn't update things like > gnome, XFree, kde and so on, or maybe I'm wrong. Something like 'apt-get > upgrade' from Debian Linux. If you have installed the ports , then try /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade, also look into /usr/ports/net/cvsup and read http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html > > - Is it possible to configure the console while in text mode to display > characters from other languages? I tried to configure the console font > and language through sysinstall but It didn't worked. My home language > is brazilian portuguese. Yes, look at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/l10n.html > > - There is an annoying thing on emacs. The backspace button doesn't work > as it usually do on other systems (erasing the last typed character). > How do I change this? I don't do emacs, so I can't help you there. > > Best regards, > Thiago From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 24 00:01:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B038B37B401 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 00:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f156.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1355543F93 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 00:01:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 24 May 2003 00:01:09 -0700 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 24 May 2003 07:01:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: f2b@atribuna.com.br Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 07:01:09 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 May 2003 07:01:09.0889 (UTC) FILETIME=[41448F10:01C321C2] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Doubts X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 07:01:11 -0000 >On Sat, 24 May 2003 Thiago Silva Conceição wrote: > > >Hi, > >- There is an annoying thing on emacs. The backspace button doesn't work as >it usually do on other systems (erasing the last typed character). How do I >change this? > >Best regards, >Thiago > Internal to emacs, you can use 'M-x global-set-key' (meta-x; type the rest). If that works, you may be able to fix it by adding a similar line to your ~/.emacs file: (global-set-key "\d" 'backward-delete-char) <- exactly like that. (though you may have to replace the \d with the appropriate keycode.) emacs has extensive builtin help, and offers a variety of suggestions on fixing this... Peace, Clayton _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 24 14:04:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E90137B401 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 14:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailc.telia.com (mailc.telia.com [194.22.190.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0513B43F85 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 14:04:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mats.svensson2@telia.com) Received: from d1o1073.telia.com (d1o1073.telia.com [212.181.129.241]) by mailc.telia.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4OL4X4D024034 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 23:04:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-Recipient: Received: from dagger.hell (h178n1fls22o1073.telia.com [212.181.128.178]) by d1o1073.telia.com (8.10.2p2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h4OL4WB28475 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 23:04:32 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Mats Organization: carnal-cathedral To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 23:04:39 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200305242304.39388.mats.svensson2@telia.com> Subject: Thanks X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mats.svensson2@telia.ocm List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 21:04:35 -0000 Thanks Mr Scott Corey (concerning foreign letters). /Mats From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 24 15:51:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8F437B401 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 15:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A563343FA3 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 15:51:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net) Received: from 245.st-louis-105-110rs.mo.dial-access.att.net ([12.85.134.245]) by mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <2003052422512211300241p0e>; Sat, 24 May 2003 22:51:22 +0000 From: Jonathan To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 17:56:11 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305241756.11030.j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Good FreeBSD book X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 22:51:24 -0000 Hi: I recently got "FreeBSD: An Open-Source operating system for your personal computer", by Annelise Anderson. I must say this is a really excellent introduction to FreeBSD. Although the book covers FreeBSD 4.3, much of the material is still relevant to 4.8. A 4.8 CD was included with the book. She has an entire chapter on ports plus a very nice chapter on kernel configuration and compiling. She covers the commands: kldstat, kldload, dmesg, ldconfig, last, netstat, w, who, ps and top. She covers cvsup too. I learned a lot about my new FreeBSD by reading this book. http://www.bsdmall.com/freebosforyo.html Kind regards, Jonathan From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 24 23:22:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C8D37B401 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 23:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamma.hostbyk.com (gamma.hostbyk.com [205.214.80.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8B843F93 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 23:22:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmhowell@gamma.hostbyk.com) Received: from jmhowell by gamma.hostbyk.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19Jou9-0001fm-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 May 2003 00:22:49 -0600 Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 00:22:49 -0600 From: "Jerry M. Howell II" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030525002249.A6280@jmhowell.com> References: <200305241756.11030.j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200305241756.11030.j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net>; from j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net on Sat, May 24, 2003 at 05:56:11PM -0500 Subject: Re: Good FreeBSD book X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 06:22:41 -0000 On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 05:56:11PM -0500, Jonathan wrote: > Hi: > > I recently got "FreeBSD: An Open-Source operating system for your personal > computer", by Annelise Anderson. I must say this is a really excellent > introduction to FreeBSD. Although the book covers FreeBSD 4.3, much of the > material is still relevant to 4.8. A 4.8 CD was included with the book. She > has an entire chapter on ports plus a very nice chapter on kernel > configuration and compiling. She covers the commands: kldstat, kldload, > dmesg, ldconfig, last, netstat, w, who, ps and top. She covers cvsup too. I > learned a lot about my new FreeBSD by reading this book. > > http://www.bsdmall.com/freebosforyo.html > I personaly liked FreeBSD Unleashed even though I'm not a big SAMS advocate. Most of my books are from O'Reilly but they did a realy good job on this book. two thumbs up. Anyone else have any recomendations, besides the obvoius handbook and other websites posted on the freebsd site? -- Jerry M. Howell II