From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 0: 4:31 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554BB37B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:04:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.acd.net (smtp.acd.net [207.179.102.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E63843F93 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:04:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from taxman@ACD.NET) Received: from 207.179.65.225 ([207.179.65.225]) by smtp.acd.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 16 Mar 2003 03:04:18 -0500 From: taxman To: doug@safeport.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: error updating 4.6 --> 4.8 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 03:07:39 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030316010536.K14340@pemaquid.safeport.com> In-Reply-To: <20030316010536.K14340@pemaquid.safeport.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303160307.39378.taxman@acd.net> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2003 08:04:18.0690 (UTC) FILETIME=[A510F620:01C2EB92] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 16 March 2003 01:17 am, doug@safeport.com wrote: > Buildworld gets: > > cc -o make_keys -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/lib/libncurses > -I/usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses > -I/usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/include -Wall > -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DNDEBUG -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DTERMIOS > /usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses/tinfo/make_keys.c > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot find -lc > *** Error code 1 > > I made a 'slip' when I got the error the first time so I have a completely > fresh /usr/src and /usr/obj. I got the same error with the source tree that > had been updated from 4.6. How are you getting your "4.8" sources. Since 4.8 hasn't been released yet, you should probably ask this question on the -stable mailing list. Howver since 4.8 is in release candidate stage a build error in the sources would be unlikely. It's likely you've missed something. Try cvsupping your source (again?) using RELENG_4 There's always the chance of a transient build error. Then if you still get the error ask on -stable and include a little more of the error and they should be able to help you. hth, Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 0:10: 4 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BFA37B401; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [64.251.91.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859C343FA3; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E0A06AE487; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2003-02-23 - 2003-03-15 Message-Id: <20030316081001.E0A06AE487@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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These are the articles posted during this period: 7-Mar : scp tricks scp is great for copying stuff around http://freebsddiary.org/scp.php?2 6-Mar : Already scanned directory - mkisofs problems mkisofs wasn't taking everything given to it http://freebsddiary.org/already-scanned-directory.php?2 1-Mar : PostgreSQL - analyzing a query to improve speed Sometimes things aren't as fast as you want, initially. http://freebsddiary.org/postgresql-analyze.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 0:10:54 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC68B37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:10:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from pemaquid.safeport.com (pemaquid.safeport.com [204.156.12.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A23C44003 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:10:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from pemaquid.safeport.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pemaquid.safeport.com (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2G8AfJq030728; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 03:10:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by pemaquid.safeport.com (8.12.8/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id h2G8Ae4D030725; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 03:10:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 03:10:40 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com To: taxman Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: error updating 4.6 --> 4.8 In-Reply-To: <200303160307.39378.taxman@acd.net> Message-ID: <20030316030804.P14340@pemaquid.safeport.com> References: <20030316010536.K14340@pemaquid.safeport.com> <200303160307.39378.taxman@acd.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks RELENG_4 will yield 4.8 these days. I will post to stable. I meant to do that but was sleepy. This is the 4th or 5th build from this level of source and (of course) the first one to fail. On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, taxman wrote: > On Sunday 16 March 2003 01:17 am, doug@safeport.com wrote: > > Buildworld gets: > > > > cc -o make_keys -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/lib/libncurses > > -I/usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses > > -I/usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/include -Wall > > -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DNDEBUG -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DTERMIOS > > /usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses/tinfo/make_keys.c > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot find -lc > > *** Error code 1 > > > > I made a 'slip' when I got the error the first time so I have a completely > > fresh /usr/src and /usr/obj. I got the same error with the source tree that > > had been updated from 4.6. > > How are you getting your "4.8" sources. Since 4.8 hasn't been released yet, > you should probably ask this question on the -stable mailing list. > Howver since 4.8 is in release candidate stage a build error in the sources > would be unlikely. It's likely you've missed something. > Try cvsupping your source (again?) using RELENG_4 > There's always the chance of a transient build error. Then if you still get > the error ask on -stable and include a little more of the error and they > should be able to help you. > > hth, > Tim > _____ Douglas Denault doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 0:18:12 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977B537B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from menalaos.thinknova.com (dsl093-082-171.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.82.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A4E43F93 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:18:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wease@thinknova.com) Received: from agamennon (agamennon.thinknova.com [10.0.0.141]) by menalaos.thinknova.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2G8I8g00250; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 03:18:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wease@thinknova.com) From: "wease" To: "'Michael K. Smith'" Cc: Subject: RE: syslogd_flags for multiple allowed peers Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 03:17:59 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c2eb94$91b1a1e0$8d00000a@thinknova.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2605 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20030315111116.Q22862-100000@chimera.noanet.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for your tip Mike. Why it wouldn't work without the service is beyond me but it seemed to do the trick. Thanks again. Keith > |-----Original Message----- > |From: Michael K. Smith [mailto:mksmith@noanet.net] > |Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:13 PM > |To: wease > |Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > |Subject: Re: syslogd_flags for multiple allowed peers > | > |On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, wease wrote: > | > |> Hello all, > |> > |> I am setting up a multi-homed loghost using FreeBSD 4.5. This machine > |> will > |> be logging for a Linux server and a black box firewall, both on > |> different > |> subnets. I can only seem to get one ip working with the allowed peer > |> argument to syslogd_flags in rc.conf. The man page for syslogd says > |> that > |> multiple -a options may be specified but does not give the delimiter > |nor > |> does it give an example. I am not using -s as this will negate the -a > |> argument. I have tried the following. > |> > |> syslogd_flags="-a 172.16.0.29 -a 172.16.0.51" > |> > |If you just want those two hosts, try: > | > |syslogd_flags="-a 172.16.0.29/32:* -a 172.16.0.51/32:*" > | > |or, if you want something that will pick them both up, use: > | > |syslogd_flags="-a 172.16.0.0/26:*" which will allow from anything on .0 - > |.63. > | > |Mike > | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 0:22: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00C237B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rawfire.torche.com (rawfire.torche.com [166.88.255.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB0F43F93 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:22:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@rawfire.torche.com) Received: from rawfire.torche.com (localhost.torche.com [127.0.0.1]) by rawfire.torche.com (8.12.5/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2G8LRgt098689; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:21:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@rawfire.torche.com) Received: from localhost (freebsd@localhost) by rawfire.torche.com (8.12.5/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id h2G8LQrA098686; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:21:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@rawfire.torche.com) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:21:26 -0800 (PST) From: Chris P To: doug Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: csh question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How about an example? I know only know sed for replacing things, not inserting a new line into a file in a specific place, even though the info around it changes. C. On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, doug wrote: > sed > > On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, Chris P wrote: > > > > > Hello.. > > Not really a freebsd question, but still a good forum to ask this. > > How would I insert a line into a file via a csh script. example... > > I have a file that is generated via the script, and I need to insert a > > line between line 1 and 2. I could do it via a head, or tail statement, > > and alot of steps, but I was wondering if there was an easier way to do > > it. > > > > Thanks! > > C. > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 0:59:18 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815EF37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:59:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp013.mail.yahoo.com (smtp013.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F20043FAF for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:59:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaeru@pd.jaring.my) Received: from unknown (HELO ?219.94.74.178?) (khairil?yusof@219.94.74.178 with plain) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 08:59:10 -0000 Subject: usb printers From: Khairil Yusof Reply-To: kaeru@pd.jaring.my To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-fUA7prUB6LrT+yAWpS9q" Organization: Message-Id: <1047805093.718.114.camel@daemon.home.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 Date: 16 Mar 2003 16:58:15 +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=-fUA7prUB6LrT+yAWpS9q Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm currently looking for a new low-end inkjet printer. After checking out gimp-print support, most of the newer Epson and HP's are supported. However most of the new printers are usb, and I don't have much experience with printing to usb under FreeBSD. Once connected would the device just be something like /dev/usb0 (on FreeBSD 5) or do you need a usb to parallel converter? There is no mention of usb printers in the handbook. Would appreciate advice and recommendations from others, on what to get and what to avoid. --=20 Khairil Yusof --=-fUA7prUB6LrT+yAWpS9q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+dDylDAqnLW/+/X8RApySAJ9kBtBE//rhdXISO54pQCWyHsEKmQCeKOYL 6D1ePnIbuIYbgT8hdT9/OOk= =Nfka -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-fUA7prUB6LrT+yAWpS9q-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 2:24:34 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA8A37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 02:24:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from MX2.estpak.ee (ld1.estpak.ee [194.126.101.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5535043F93 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 02:24:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kalts@estpak.ee) Received: from kevad.internal (80-235-37-144-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.37.144]) by MX2.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF17735FD; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:22:51 +0200 (EET) Received: (from vallo@localhost) by kevad.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h2GAO2ak001091; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:24:02 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from vallo) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:24:02 +0200 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Sue Blake Cc: taxman , Wizard of Wor , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: minimum memory [was: A simple question about FreeBSD] Message-ID: <20030316102402.GB821@kevad.internal> Reply-To: kalts@estpak.ee References: <200303142128.14193.taxman@acd.net> <20030316071751.B77240@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030316071751.B77240@welearn.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i-ja.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 07:17:51AM +1100, Sue Blake wrote: > This memory question comes up a lot, and I'm not sure how up to date > that part of the documentation is. Has anyone _definitely_ run an > install on a machine with only 8MB in the last couple of years? > > Twice I have failed to install (boot floppy with CD) to machines with > only 8MB RAM. It could have been FreeBSD 4.4, but I think it was > FreeBSD 3.3. I'd love to discover that I'm wrong here. > > Of course the alternative is to put the disk in another machine to do > the install, then it should run OK back in the 8MB machine. As for X, > forget trying it. If it was installed it "would run" but not usably, > no matter how much swap. Without X and with plenty of swap you can do > a lot with your 8MB in text mode if you can get an installation going. > I had a 386 with 8MB running FreeBSD 2.x (without X) that ran much > faster than the NT4 pentium beside it. The 486 CPU should be fine. Even 4.4 didn't install using standard release floppies and 8MB of memory. I had to build custom stripped down kernel. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 3:34:55 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3143337B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 03:34:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7786743FAF for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 03:34:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@overdose.com) Received: from overdose.com ([80.0.158.31]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030316113442.TYBU9882.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@overdose.com>; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:34:42 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:36:16 +0000 Subject: Re: Port Forwarding FreeBSD 4.7_Release Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG To: Bill Moran , dan@slightlystrange.org From: Matthew Ryan In-Reply-To: <3E7298A2.5080904@potentialtech.com> Message-Id: <7FD4BD82-57A3-11D7-AD24-0030654886A6@overdose.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday, March 15, 2003, at 03:06 am, Bill Moran wrote: > Matthew Ryan wrote: >> On Saturday, March 15, 2003, at 12:13 am, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >>>> Fact is, natd _only_ redirects from the interface is was told to >>>> bind to. >>>> I'm not exactly sure why the packets don't route out and back in >>>> when you >>>> try it from inside, but they don't ;( so you always need to test it >>>> from >>>> the external interface. >>> >>> >>> The reason they don't "route out" is that they are addressed to the >>> router, so it doesn't bother to forward them outside. >>> >> Ok, I understand, this does present me with a bit of a problem >> however, accessing my mail server from home for example. Can you >> think of a workaround? > > I don't fully understand the question. What exactly do you mean by > "from home"? Is the mail server behind the firewall? You can port > forward/reroute just about anything to anywhere, with enough time and > patience. But there's not enough information in the statement you just > made for anyone to help you much. > sorry, i'll try to be more explicit. I have a number of services on ports forwarded from my external IP address to an internal IP address via NAT as we have discussed. The problem is that I can not access these services from inside nat. Example - My mail server address resolves to my external IP number. It's primarily a mobility issue. From inside NAT I can't collect my mail unless I specifically point my browser at the internal IP number of my mail server. Yes I can get around this with some sort of client location manager or by connecting to the internet via a route other than my LAN, but none of these options are ideal. I am hoping for a routing solution, and I am pleased to read your comforting words: > You can port forward/reroute just about anything to anywhere, with > enough time and > patience. Lowell Gilbert suggests running local DNS (thanks) but I have no experience of DNS and I had other areas of learning in mind for the moment. Can anyone think of another solution? Thanks again Matthew Ryan Matt@overdose.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 3:38:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F91037B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 03:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.erwane.net (breton.net1.nerim.net [213.41.144.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D4A43FA3 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 03:38:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from breton@erwane.net) Received: from athena-in (athena-in [10.1.1.254]) by athena.erwane.net (8.12.8/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2GBc8dc071372 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:38:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from breton@erwane.net) From: Erwane Breton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: pkgdb & clone disks Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:38:08 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303161238.08404.breton@erwane.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi all First, i've installed perl5.6.1 with the system, and later i upgrade (install ?) to perl5.8.0. I ran the script "use.perl port", and i deinstall perl5.6.1. And now always i want to upgrade a ports who need perl, i must run 'pkgdb -F' for fix the dependency with ... perl 5.6.1. when i install a ports with 'portinstall', i always see "cleaning perl5.6.1". How i can tell to "portinstall" or "make" to use perl5.8.0 and remove perl5.6.1 ? # uname -a FreeBSD athena.erwane.net 5.0-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE-p4 #1: Thu Mar 6 15:40:49 CET 2003 root@athena:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/ATHENA i386 # pkg_info | grep perl p5-DBI-1.34_1 The perl5 Database Interface. Required for DBD::* modules perl-5.8.0_4 Practical Extraction and Report Language # ls /usr/local/lib/perl5 5.6.1 5.8.0 site_perl # ls /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl 5.6.1 5.8.0 if need more info, ask. thanks for idea ######################################################################### The second is a project I have a server running FreeBSD5.0 and client running win98 and i want to dump disk of client to create snapshot of the system for restore it later when it crashes :o). Like ghost in fact but on FreeBSD. thanks for idea too :) Erwane Breton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 4: 5:44 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B055937B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 04:05:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from linopryne.com (adslh185.cofs.net [207.87.240.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AF2843F93 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 04:05:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from list@linopryne.com) Received: (qmail 79194 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 12:05:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO linopryne.com) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 12:05:56 -0000 Received: from 192.168.0.4 (SquirrelMail authenticated user list@linopryne.com) by mail.linopryne.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:05:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4081.192.168.0.4.1047816356.squirrel@mail.linopryne.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:05:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: a bit confused with new rc.d system in 5.0 From: "Jorge Mario G." To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there I just installed 5.0 the first thing I noticed is the new rc system yeah looks good but I'm totally lost! so what is the difference between /etc/rc.sendmail and /erc/rc.d/sendmail I tried the handbook but there is no info about how to properly use this new system!. I like to integrate my scripts with the system so I would like to learn this new stuff so please if anyone could point me to some kind of doc/info I'll appreciate it Thanks Jorge To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 5:18:37 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CDB637B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 05:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from bimba.bezeqint.net (bimba.bezeqint.net [192.115.106.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89F143F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 05:18:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael@zend.com) Received: from mr3.bezeqint.net (pip-18.bezeqint.net [192.115.106.18]) by bimba.bezeqint.net (Bezeq International SMTP out Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1410233E95 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:15:12 +0200 (IST) Received: from mail.zend.com (bzq-117-235-230.cust.bezeqint.net [192.117.235.230]) by mr3.bezeqint.net (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with SMTP id ARX83762; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:18:29 +0200 (IST) Received: (qmail 17026 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 13:18:25 -0000 Received: from gibraltar.zend.office (10.1.2.137) by int.zend.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 13:18:25 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:19:23 +0200 (IST) From: Michael Spector X-X-Sender: michael@gibraltar.zend.office To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: libtool in ports Message-ID: <20030316151824.T30468-100000@gibraltar.zend.office> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What's the difference between ports/libtool13 and ports/libtool14 ? I just tried to install libtool of version: 1.4.3 .... ------------------------------------ With best regards, Michael Spector Tel: 972-(0)54-840565 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 5:43:57 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A6B37B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 05:43:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (norge.freeshell.org [216.162.208.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADC243FA3 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 05:43:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from montana@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: (from montana@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) id h2GDhpSM027093; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:43:51 GMT Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:43:51 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Einreinhof X-X-Sender: montana@norge.freeshell.org To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Aironet an0 dhcp gateway question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am having problems with my Cisco Aironet 350 card. I am running 5.0-Release. This card is in a Dell C840 laptop connecting to a Cisco access point. The card is detected and using a ifconfig_an0="ssid my_sid" line in /etc/rc.conf. Running "ifconfig an0" confirms that the card is associated. I manually run "dhclient an0" to obtain the info and again "ifconfig an0" confirms the correct info has been provided. I "ping 192.168.1.1" (the access point) and get results back. I then try to ping a known valid address outside of my network. I get 100% packet loss. Ok, maybe the default route didn't get added, so: "route add default 192.168.1.1". I get back "route: writing to routing socket: File exists add net default: gateway 192.168.1.1: File exists". This tells me dhcp worked correctly in the first place and added the gateway. At this point I am stuck as to why packets aren't getting to the outside network. With this laptop I have a second HD with XP loaded on it. The card, access point, and XP work with no changes to them. Currently, the access point is not running any type of authentication or encryption except for the SSID until I can get this working correctly. Also, what would I add to /etc/rc.conf to have dhcp done at boot? Would this be correct: ifconfig_an0="DHCP"? Should the be after the ssid line? Cheers - Mark Einreinhof - Arpa Member montana@freeshell.org http://montana.freeshell.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://www.freeshell.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 6:10:40 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C737A37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 06:10:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from rammstein.mweb.co.za (rammstein.mweb.co.za [196.2.53.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C4143FBF for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 06:10:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dj_boris@mail.ru) Received: from kny-dial-196-7-205-133.mweb.co.za ([196.7.205.133] helo=d) by rammstein.mweb.co.za with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18uYb2-0005bR-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:54:40 +0200 Message-ID: <001f01c2ebc5$b67c7690$85cd07c4@d> From: "DJ Boris" To: "freebsd-questions" Subject: how can I stop named to dial out at startup Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:09:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi there, I use named to only forward dns requests (if any). every time I start it (manually from the command line) it dials out. then the ppp times out after 3 mins, connection gets dropped and everything geos back to normal. as soon as a dns request arrives ppp kicks in.. and so on and so on. in named.conf I have forward only and have set forwarders. so everything is OK but just that initial dial out at start up is annoying me. i have read named.conf manual and there is says that you can put "dialup yes" have done that but no luck and I think this option is more for proper dns and doesn't apply to dns forwarding any ideas? thanx dj_boris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 6:32:21 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C0737B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 06:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from david.io.com (david.io.com [199.170.88.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0BB43F93 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 06:32:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eighner@io.com) Received: from io.com (aus-as2-144.io.com [199.170.89.144]) by david.io.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id h2GEWJ304984 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:32:19 -0600 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:31:01 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Eighner To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to make a linux binary run on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20030316082949.Y572@pearl.io.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a Savage/IX agp card. Savage/IX was developed for laptops so of its three possible output devices (LCD, CRT, and several flavors of TV), by default it assumes that is attached to a 640x480 LCD. Naturally this produces undesirable results when a CRT is attached instead. S3 provided a utility (s3switch) which allows choose which output device or combination of output devices are attached. This utility works fine with RedHat 8.0. It runs from the command line or within X. When I run it from the command line in FreeBSD 4.8-RC with linux-compatibility in my kernel, the S3 utility fails thusly: vm86() failed return = 0xffffffda eax = 0x00004f14 ebx = 0x00000003 ecx = 0x00000001 edx = 0x00000000 esi = 0x00000000 edi = 0x00000000 ebp = 0x00000000 eip = 0x00004898 cs = 0xc000 esp = 0x00000ffa ss = 0x1000 ds = 0x0000 es = 0x0000 fs = 0x0000 gs = 0x0000 eflags = 0x00003200 cs:ip = [ fb fc 80 fc 0e 74 48 80 fc 0c 74 46 80 fc 0d 74 ] Can't change device (vm86 failure) And this message is broadcast: "linux: syscall vm86old is obsoleted or not implemented. Tim Roberts has a similar utility, also called s3switch, distributed as a linux binary and as source code. When I attempt to run this binary from the command line, I get: Could not set device (vm86 failure) Devices attached: CRT LCD TV Devices active: CRT LCD Current TV format is NTSC And the same broadcast message as above. I have not run this binary in RedHat 8.0, but I assume it will work there as well as the S3 utility does. Naturally, the source code will not compile on FreeBSD as it includes a number of headers which don't exist in FreeBSD, and according to Roberts' web page the utility depends on vm86, from which I surmise there is no simple way to make it compile and run on FreeBSD, with or without linux compatibility. Am I overlooking something that would allow either of the binaries to work on FreeBSD? -- Lars Eighner -finger for geek code- eighner@io.com http://www.io.com/~eighner/ The US Constitution wasn't perfect, But it was better than what we have now. The Asses of Evil: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 6:51:46 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4DB37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 06:51:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from naboo.blacktrap.net (212.68.218.22.brutele.be [212.68.218.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CBE43F75 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 06:51:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from odony@student.info.ucl.ac.be) Received: from arkania (olinether@arkania [192.168.2.21]) by naboo.blacktrap.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id h2GEsdLc005022; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:54:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from odony@student.info.ucl.ac.be) Message-ID: <005d01c2ebcb$82b343b0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> Reply-To: "Olivier Dony" From: "Olivier Dony" To: Subject: Too many collisions on network? Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:51:16 +0100 Organization: UCL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have a webserver serving a lot of requests (almost filling up 4 Mbits/s of http at peak time everyday). It's running Apache 1.3.27 on FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE, and there are usually about 200-250 http processes running. Today I was looking at the various *stat tools to monitor it, and noticed a high number of network collisions ie : root@charon:/root# netstat 5 input (Total) output packets errs bytes packets errs bytes colls 1598 0 190789 2035 0 2326238 659 1722 0 220532 2298 0 2958770 981 2547 0 347703 3078 0 2701052 1211 1937 0 274644 2461 0 3332772 1117 1619 0 235935 2169 0 2795248 725 1739 0 262005 2257 0 2076768 885 1461 0 255291 1781 0 2120986 537 1685 0 273239 1941 0 2144180 699 and so on... Earlier today there has been a time where the webserver was unreachable, with 1 out of 200 packets reaching it only, then everything went back to normal. Nothing unusual in the logs. Is there a way for me to see if the problem was the webserver itself or the network? And is this amount of collisions suspicious, given that the ISP is of course running a switched network? Thanks in advance for any ideas :-) Olivier PS: Lately I have been unable to post anything on the freebsd mailing-lists from my blacktrap.net e-mail address, the mails are accepted by the MX but seem to be discarded. I mailed postmaster@freebsd.org but did not receive any answer, maybe the mail was discarded too. What can I do about this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 6:53: 5 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908E337B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 06:53:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mired.org (ip68-97-54-220.ok.ok.cox.net [68.97.54.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 87BAC43F75 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 06:52:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1048258371.0ffd19@mired.org) Received: (qmail 27419 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 14:52:51 -0000 Received: from localhost.mired.org (HELO guru.mired.org) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.mired.org with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 14:52:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15988.36803.13363.43940@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:52:51 -0600 To: kaeru@pd.jaring.my Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usb printers In-Reply-To: <1047805093.718.114.camel@daemon.home.net> References: <1047805093.718.114.camel@daemon.home.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`; h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: Mike Meyer X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.71 (Hoop, Jr.) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In <1047805093.718.114.camel@daemon.home.net>, Khairil Yusof typed: > Once connected would the device just be something like /dev/usb0 (on > FreeBSD 5) or do you need a usb to parallel converter? There is no > mention of usb printers in the handbook. If the device is recognized as a USB printer, it will show up as /dev/ulpt0. You just use that instead of /dev/lpt0 in the printcap file. No converter or any such thing is needed. http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 6:54: 7 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327F837B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 06:54:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (pa-plum1b-122.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.161.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E7343F75 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 06:54:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com (working [172.16.0.95]) by pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h2GEs3Tb010223; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:54:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Message-ID: <3E748FEE.9000902@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:53:34 -0500 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030301 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DJ Boris Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup References: <001f01c2ebc5$b67c7690$85cd07c4@d> In-Reply-To: <001f01c2ebc5$b67c7690$85cd07c4@d> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG DJ Boris wrote: > hi there, > > I use named to only forward dns requests (if any). every time I start it > (manually from the command line) it dials out. then the ppp times out after > 3 mins, connection gets dropped and everything geos back to normal. as soon > as a dns request arrives ppp kicks in.. and so on and so on. > > in named.conf I have forward only and have set forwarders. so everything is > OK but just that initial dial out at start up is annoying me. > > i have read named.conf manual and there is says that you can put "dialup > yes" have done that but no luck and I think this option is more for proper > dns and doesn't apply to dns forwarding Did you put the "dialup yes" as a global option? If not, it might only apply to certain zones, and other zones will update as needed. Also, did you set the "heartbeat-interval"? I don't know what the default is, but you'll probably want to set it pretty high. Also, the system will _always_ dial out if it doesn't have the DNS information requested. Just some thoughts. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 7: 3:53 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5F737B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:03:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mired.org (ip68-97-54-220.ok.ok.cox.net [68.97.54.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B65D43FA3 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:03:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1048259029.aff504@mired.org) Received: (qmail 27546 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 15:03:49 -0000 Received: from localhost.mired.org (HELO guru.mired.org) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.mired.org with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 15:03:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15988.37461.141108.535083@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:03:49 -0600 To: "Jorge Mario G." Cc: Subject: Re: a bit confused with new rc.d system in 5.0 In-Reply-To: <4081.192.168.0.4.1047816356.squirrel@mail.linopryne.com> References: <4081.192.168.0.4.1047816356.squirrel@mail.linopryne.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`; h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: Mike Meyer X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.71 (Hoop, Jr.) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In <4081.192.168.0.4.1047816356.squirrel@mail.linopryne.com>, Jorge Mario G. typed: > Hi there > I just installed 5.0 > the first thing I noticed is the new rc system > yeah looks good but I'm totally lost! > so what is the difference between /etc/rc.sendmail and /erc/rc.d/sendmail /etc/rc.d/sendmail integrates into the new rc system. > I tried the handbook but there is no info about how to properly use this > new system!. To properly use this system, just set the appropriate config variables in /etc/rc.conf. That hasn't changed. > I like to integrate my scripts with the system so I would like to learn > this new stuff Doing your own scripts works just like it used to. Either put things in /etc/rc.local - which is depreciated - or put scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. The latter scripts need to end in ".sh" and be executable. They should accept an argument of "start" to start things, and "stop" to stop things. > so please if anyone could point me to some kind of doc/info I'll > appreciate it I don't know of any docs, and the info I'm using is the shell scripts proper. You might ask on -current if you want more information than I've provided. http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 7:23:41 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3669C37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailout.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8B343F85 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:23:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from barner@in.tum.de) Received: from mailrelay1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailrelay1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.254.5]) by mailout.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B40E617A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:23:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mail.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.26]) by mailrelay1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F98E7947 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:23:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from zi025.glhnet.mhn.de (unknown [129.187.19.157]) by mail.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E816CB10 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:23:38 +0100 (MET) Received: by zi025.glhnet.mhn.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8005936B67; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:23:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:23:35 +0100 From: Simon Barner To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too many collisions on network? Message-ID: <20030316152335.GA1434@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> References: <005d01c2ebcb$82b343b0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <005d01c2ebcb$82b343b0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, > I have a webserver serving a lot of requests (almost filling=20 > up 4 Mbits/s of http at peak time everyday). It's running > Apache 1.3.27 on FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE, and there are usually > about 200-250 http processes running. Today I was looking at > the various *stat tools to monitor it, and noticed a high > number of network collisions ie : Are you running your network adaptor in full-duplex mode? Perhaps the devic= e on the other end of the wire does only support half-duplex. Changing this incr= eased the throughput from 20kb/s to almost 1mb/s on our internal network here (10baseT/UTP). HTH, Simon --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+dJb3Ckn+/eutqCoRAg3UAKCYG7i5GEd+5GDKTnEnEUzyNeYa7wCgnzLa a+ZjosS/bWT21377GMkMxhs= =a12H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 7:26:42 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A58337B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:26:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from rammstein.mweb.co.za (rammstein.mweb.co.za [196.2.53.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA9543F93 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:26:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dj_boris@mail.ru) Received: from kny-dial-196-7-205-133.mweb.co.za ([196.7.205.133] helo=d) by rammstein.mweb.co.za with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18uZlf-000135-00; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:09:43 +0200 Message-ID: <003001c2ebd0$32b73e70$85cd07c4@d> From: "DJ Boris" To: "Bill Moran" Cc: "freebsd-questions" References: <001f01c2ebc5$b67c7690$85cd07c4@d> <3E748FEE.9000902@potentialtech.com> Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:24:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG yes I have dialup yes. my named.conf is actually quite simple as I only use it for dns forwarding therefore I don't actually need to set the heartbeat-interval. if I start named, let it dial, wait for the ppp time out to expire and leave the system for days without any traffic it doesn't dial. so it is working properly. the only thing that I can't uinderstand is why named makes ppp dial out when it is only suppoed to forward dns requests. and I have no other app that does dns requests. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Moran" To: "DJ Boris" Cc: "freebsd-questions" Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:53 PM Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup > DJ Boris wrote: > > hi there, > > > > I use named to only forward dns requests (if any). every time I start it > > (manually from the command line) it dials out. then the ppp times out after > > 3 mins, connection gets dropped and everything geos back to normal. as soon > > as a dns request arrives ppp kicks in.. and so on and so on. > > > > in named.conf I have forward only and have set forwarders. so everything is > > OK but just that initial dial out at start up is annoying me. > > > > i have read named.conf manual and there is says that you can put "dialup > > yes" have done that but no luck and I think this option is more for proper > > dns and doesn't apply to dns forwarding > > Did you put the "dialup yes" as a global option? If not, it might only apply > to certain zones, and other zones will update as needed. > > Also, did you set the "heartbeat-interval"? I don't know what the default is, > but you'll probably want to set it pretty high. > > Also, the system will _always_ dial out if it doesn't have the DNS information > requested. > > Just some thoughts. > > -- > Bill Moran > Potential Technologies > http://www.potentialtech.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 7:27:20 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA26F37B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:27:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE44E43FA3 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:27:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mav@wastegate.net) Received: from wastegate.net (12-226-185-104.client.attbi.com[12.226.185.104]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with ESMTP id <2003031615271700300i1708e>; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:27:17 +0000 Received: from MOTHER (mother.wg.local [192.168.1.5]) by wastegate.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4A448463; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:31:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Doug Reynolds" To: "dick hoogendijk" , "Dirk-Willem van Gulik" Cc: "freebsd-questions" Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:30:02 -0500 X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2657) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;1) In-Reply-To: <20030312202850.I3308-100000@foem.leiden.webweaving.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MBR screwed up Message-Id: <20030316153125.BD4A448463@wastegate.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:29:26 +0100 (CET), Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: >On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, dick hoogendijk wrote: > >> master drive, but what do I do to get rid of the old fbsd loader on the >> second and get a good windows-xp one? > >On older windozes one would boot from floppy and do a > > format.exe c: /mbr I don't know if that will do it. I've always used 'fdisk /mbr'. afaik, you can only put a mbr on drive 0 --- doug reynolds | the maverick | mav@wastegate.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 7:34:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82AB37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:34:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from supermail.mweb.co.za (supermail.mweb.co.za [196.2.53.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8CC43FA3 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:34:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dj_boris@mail.ru) Received: from [196.7.205.133] (helo=d) by supermail.mweb.co.za with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18uWHZ-0007AR-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:26:25 +0200 Message-ID: <003601c2ebaf$77fd2c40$85cd07c4@d> From: "DJ Boris" To: "freebsd-questions" Subject: how can I stop named to dial out at startup Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:29:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi there, I use named to only forward dns requests (if any). every time I start it (manually from the command line) it dials out. then the ppp times out after 3 mins, connection gets dropped and everything geos back to normal. as soon as a dns request arrives ppp kicks in.. and so on and so on. in named.conf I have forward only and have set forwarders. so everything is OK but just that initial dial out at start up is annoying me. i have read named.conf manual and there is says that you can put "dialup yes" have done that but no luck and I think this option is more for proper dns and doesn't apply to dns forwarding any ideas? thanx dj_boris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 7:49: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D089C37B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from naboo.blacktrap.net (212.68.218.22.brutele.be [212.68.218.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0DC43F85 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:49:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from odony@student.info.ucl.ac.be) Received: from arkania (olinether@arkania [192.168.2.21]) by naboo.blacktrap.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id h2GFqQLc005118; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:52:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from odony@student.info.ucl.ac.be) Message-ID: <002201c2ebd3$92d0a7d0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> Reply-To: "Olivier Dony" From: "Olivier Dony" To: "Simon Barner" Cc: References: <005d01c2ebcb$82b343b0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> <20030316152335.GA1434@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> Subject: Re: Too many collisions on network? Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:47:59 +0100 Organization: UCL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 16 March, 2003 16:23, Simon Barner wrote: > > Are you running your network adaptor in full-duplex mode? Perhaps the device on > the other end of the wire does only support half-duplex. Changing this increased > the throughput from 20kb/s to almost 1mb/s on our internal network here > (10baseT/UTP). I'm not really sure about this, here is the output of ifconfig related to the external interface : root@charon:/root# ifconfig -m fxp0 fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet xxx.xxx.191.100 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast xxx.xxx.191.111 inet xxx.xxx.191.101 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xxx.191.101 ether 00:e0:81:23:c5:32 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active supported media: media autoselect media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex media 100baseTX media 10baseT/UTP mediaopt full-duplex media 10baseT/UTP media 100baseTX mediaopt hw-loopback It seems that fxp(4) supports full-duplex but that it is currently disabled, and I guess this is because the other end of the wire doesn't support it, since the media has been autoselected? Please correct me as I have never played a lot with ifconfig except for basic configutarion. I wouldn't be too eager to do tests with this setting since this is a production server and I have no direct physical access to it, so shutting down the only interface by mistake is *not* an option ;-) But if I was to change it, how would I go about this without shutting down fxp0? 'ifconfig fxp0 media 10baseT/UTP mediaopt full-duplex' ?? Thanks for your help :-) Olivier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 8: 2:19 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1929737B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:02:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCF243F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:02:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mav@wastegate.net) Received: from wastegate.net (12-226-185-104.client.attbi.com[12.226.185.104]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with ESMTP id <2003031616021500100cbiufe>; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:02:15 +0000 Received: from MOTHER (mother.wg.local [192.168.1.5]) by wastegate.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83B748463; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:06:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Doug Reynolds" To: "Sue Blake" , "taxman" Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" , "Wizard of Wor" Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:04:56 -0500 X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2657) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;1) In-Reply-To: <20030316071751.B77240@welearn.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: minimum memory [was: A simple question about FreeBSD] Message-Id: <20030316160619.A83B748463@wastegate.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:17:51 +1100, Sue Blake wrote: >On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 09:28:14PM -0500, taxman wrote: >> On Friday 14 March 2003 08:23 pm, Wizard of Wor wrote: >> > I was unable to find the minimum requirements on x86 platform. Can I >> > run FreeBSD on mz 486dx2 8Mb laptop smoothly? >> >> The install documentation or the FAQ does have this answer, but yes you should >> be able to run fine on this machine. Just don't try to install X windows, >> unless you set up a *lot* of swap. It also depends a little bit on if there >> is any noncooperative hardware on the machine. Laptops tend to have some of >> that. Best bet is to try it. 4.x will probably work the best for you. > > >This memory question comes up a lot, and I'm not sure how up to date >that part of the documentation is. Has anyone _definitely_ run an >install on a machine with only 8MB in the last couple of years? > >Twice I have failed to install (boot floppy with CD) to machines with >only 8MB RAM. It could have been FreeBSD 4.4, but I think it was >FreeBSD 3.3. I'd love to discover that I'm wrong here. > >Of course the alternative is to put the disk in another machine to do >the install, then it should run OK back in the 8MB machine. As for X, >forget trying it. If it was installed it "would run" but not usably, >no matter how much swap. Without X and with plenty of swap you can do >a lot with your 8MB in text mode if you can get an installation going. >I had a 386 with 8MB running FreeBSD 2.x (without X) that ran much >faster than the NT4 pentium beside it. The 486 CPU should be fine. AFAIK, you need 12meg to install, but only 8 to run. I wouldnt run it will less than 16 or 24. I had 28 megs in a old 486-133, and 4.3-release ran great. --- doug reynolds | the maverick | mav@wastegate.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 8: 5: 4 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8634337B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:05:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.dubium.com (h24-78-226-8.vn.shawcable.net [24.78.226.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCA743F85 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:05:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@dubium.com) Received: (qmail 97632 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 16:07:15 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO dubium.com) ([127.0.0.1]) (envelope-sender ) by 0 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Mar 2003 16:07:15 -0000 Received: from 192.168.0.1 (SquirrelMail authenticated user joe@dubium.com) by sigfried with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:07:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1168.192.168.0.1.1047830835.squirrel@sigfried> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:07:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: latest stable branch upgrade fails From: "Joe Sotham" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 RC2a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here's my stable cvsup file: *default host=cvsup.ca.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all In the /usr/src directory I did a make clean, then make The following error occurs. I have tried this a number of times including deleting the entire src tree and then cvsuping again. -- Joe Sotham ------------ **** error messages ****** Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf cc -O -pipe -Wall -DFREEBSD_ELF -I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/i386 -I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf -elf -fpic -DPIC -c rtld.c rtld.c:81: warning: `struct dl_serinfo' declared inside parameter list rtld.c:81: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, which is probably not what you want. rtld.c:176: `dlinfo' undeclared here (not in a function) rtld.c:176: initializer element is not constant rtld.c:176: (near initialization for `exports[7]') rtld.c: In function `dlsym': rtld.c:1666: `RTLD_SELF' undeclared (first use in this function) rtld.c:1666: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once rtld.c:1666: for each function it appears in.) rtld.c: In function `dlinfo': rtld.c:1788: `RTLD_SELF' undeclared (first use in this function) rtld.c:1804: `RTLD_DI_LINKMAP' undeclared (first use in this function) rtld.c:1807: `RTLD_DI_ORIGIN' undeclared (first use in this function) rtld.c:1811: `RTLD_DI_SERINFOSIZE' undeclared (first use in this function) rtld.c:1812: `RTLD_DI_SERINFO' undeclared (first use in this function) rtld.c:1813: warning: passing arg 3 of `do_search_info' from incompatible pointer type rtld.c:1805: warning: unreachable code at beginning of switch statement rtld.c: At top level: rtld.c:1829: syntax error before `Dl_serinfo' rtld.c: In function `fill_search_info': rtld.c:1841: `RTLD_DI_SERINFOSIZE' undeclared (first use in this function) rtld.c:1842: structure has no member named `serinfo' rtld.c:1843: structure has no member named `serinfo' rtld.c:1847: structure has no member named `serpath' rtld.c:1848: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type rtld.c:1849: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type rtld.c:1855: structure has no member named `serpath' rtld.c: At top level: rtld.c:1862: warning: `struct dl_serinfo' declared inside parameter list rtld.c:1863: conflicting types for `do_search_info' rtld.c:81: previous declaration of `do_search_info' rtld.c: In function `do_search_info': rtld.c:1864: storage size of `_info' isn't known rtld.c:1867: `RTLD_DI_SERINFOSIZE' undeclared (first use in this function) rtld.c:1868: structure has no member named `serinfo' rtld.c:1870: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type rtld.c:1880: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type rtld.c:1881: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type rtld.c:1885: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type rtld.c:1885: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type rtld.c:1890: `RTLD_DI_SERINFO' undeclared (first use in this function) rtld.c:1891: structure has no member named `serinfo' rtld.c:1892: structure has no member named `serpath' rtld.c:1892: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type rtld.c:1893: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type rtld.c:1895: `LA_SER_LIBPATH' undeclared (first use in this function) rtld.c:1899: `LA_SER_RUNPATH' undeclared (first use in this function) rtld.c:1903: `LA_SER_CONFIG' undeclared (first use in this function) rtld.c:1907: `LA_SER_DEFAULT' undeclared (first use in this function) rtld.c:1864: warning: unused variable `_info' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/libexec. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 8:24:41 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0B637B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:24:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailout.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CCE43F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:24:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from barner@in.tum.de) Received: from mailrelay1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailrelay1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.254.5]) by mailout.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AF76135 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:24:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mail.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.26]) by mailrelay1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6507947 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:24:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from zi025.glhnet.mhn.de (unknown [129.187.19.157]) by mail.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34506CB10 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:24:36 +0100 (MET) Received: by zi025.glhnet.mhn.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 77C3636B69; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:24:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:24:35 +0100 From: Simon Barner To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too many collisions on network? Message-ID: <20030316162435.GA1658@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> References: <005d01c2ebcb$82b343b0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> <20030316152335.GA1434@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> <002201c2ebd3$92d0a7d0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002201c2ebd3$92d0a7d0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > root@charon:/root# ifconfig -m fxp0 > fxp0: flags=3D8843 mtu 1500 > inet xxx.xxx.191.100 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast xxx.xxx.191.111 > inet xxx.xxx.191.101 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xxx.191.101 > ether 00:e0:81:23:c5:32 > media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) > status: active > supported media: > media autoselect > media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex > media 100baseTX > media 10baseT/UTP mediaopt full-duplex > media 10baseT/UTP > media 100baseTX mediaopt hw-loopback >=20 > It seems that fxp(4) supports full-duplex but that it is currently=20 > disabled, and I guess this is because the other end of the wire doesn't > support it, since the media has been autoselected? Yes, it seems to be running in half-duplex mode. Even if you are connected = to a switch that supports full-duplex (which seems not to be the case since auto-negotiation selected h-d), this setting is fine since full-duplex won't bring you a huge performance gain in most of the situations. > I wouldn't be too eager to do tests with this setting since this is a > production server and I have no direct physical access to it, so shutting > down the only interface by mistake is *not* an option ;-) I understand that :-) > But if I was to change it, how would I go about this without shutting down > fxp0? 'ifconfig fxp0 media 10baseT/UTP mediaopt full-duplex' ?? Yes, but I have never done that remotely (my FreeBSD machine is just under = my desk :-) Don't know whether this works over an ssh connection for example. = I am sure somebody else from the list has more experience in this regard ... Simon --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+dKVDCkn+/eutqCoRAhUrAJ9o/HZrDif31DKhc3LC9UP18dD7wQCgxi9u LDDILjIpZKEDOSm73I85Q6A= =f5/D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 8:48: 4 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B38737B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235B143F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:48:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from edinho64@netscape.net) Received: from edinho64@netscape.net by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id n.1b3.52e44d1 (16240) for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:47:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from netscape.net (pool-151-198-129-5.mad.east.verizon.net [151.198.129.5]) by air-in03.mx.aol.com (v92.17) with ESMTP id MAILININ34-3f703e74aabf1e7; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:47:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3E74AAB8.9060804@netscape.net> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:47:52 -0500 From: Edinho User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Undefined symbol Undefined symbol "stpcpy" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Running FreeBSD 5.0 and installed the yahoo messenger but it doesn't work. Here's what I get when I try running it: /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.4: Undefined symbol "stpcpy" I thought it had to do with gettext and rebuild this port again but still have the same problem. Does anyone know what this problem might be? Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 8:49:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C6537B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:49:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from priv-edtnes44.telusplanet.net (outbound05.telus.net [199.185.220.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C956F43FAF for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:49:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from viktorlazlo@telus.net) Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([207.6.246.202]) by priv-edtnes44.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20030316164910.EREF3906.priv-edtnes44.telusplanet.net@[192.168.1.100]>; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:49:10 -0700 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:48:58 -0800 (PST) From: Viktor Lazlo X-X-Sender: viktorlazlo@a3ij25fvy80j.bc.hsia.telus.net To: Chris P Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: csh question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030316084346.X66977-100000@a3ij25fvy80j.bc.hsia.telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Chris P wrote: > How about an example? I know only know sed for replacing things, not > inserting a new line into a file in a specific place, even though the info > around it changes. > > > On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, Chris P wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello.. > > > Not really a freebsd question, but still a good forum to ask this. > > > How would I insert a line into a file via a csh script. example... > > > I have a file that is generated via the script, and I need to insert a > > > line between line 1 and 2. I could do it via a head, or tail statement, > > > and alot of steps, but I was wondering if there was an easier way to do > > > it. Exactly how you do it within your script depends on what else is happening, but this shows one way of doing it from the command line: cat originalfile | sed -n '1G;p' >modifiedfile Cheers, Viktor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 9:17: 7 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD03337B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:17:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lakemtao04.cox.net (lakemtao04.cox.net [68.1.17.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AC643F75 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:17:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tcornpropst@cox.net) Received: from beastie.cornpropst.net ([68.100.175.64]) by lakemtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030316171704.PHSW22825.lakemtao04.cox.net@beastie.cornpropst.net>; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:17:04 -0500 From: "Trevor S. Cornpropst" Reply-To: tcornpropst@acm.org To: "DJ Boris" , "freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:17:03 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <003601c2ebaf$77fd2c40$85cd07c4@d> In-Reply-To: <003601c2ebaf$77fd2c40$85cd07c4@d> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303161217.03476.tcornpropst@cox.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 16 March 2003 06:29, DJ Boris wrote: > hi there, > > I use named to only forward dns requests (if any). every time I start it > (manually from the command line) it dials out. then the ppp times out after > 3 mins, connection gets dropped and everything geos back to normal. as soon > as a dns request arrives ppp kicks in.. and so on and so on. > > in named.conf I have forward only and have set forwarders. so everything is > OK but just that initial dial out at start up is annoying me. > > i have read named.conf manual and there is says that you can put "dialup > yes" have done that but no luck and I think this option is more for proper > dns and doesn't apply to dns forwarding > > any ideas? > > thanx > dj_boris > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message You want to configure this behavior in ppp. ppp offers packet filtering with the ability to allow/deny packets during certain states of operation, one of them being "dial". See /usr/share/examples/ppp/ppp.conf.sample around line 280 to see how you prevent DNS packets from initiating a dial up. man ppp may also shed some light on your problem. Trevor Cornpropst To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 9:18:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2DE37B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (pa-plum1b-122.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.161.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E415E43FA3 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:18:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com (working [172.16.0.95]) by pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h2GHI7Tb010287; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:18:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Message-ID: <3E74B1B3.1080306@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:17:39 -0500 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030301 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DJ Boris Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup References: <001f01c2ebc5$b67c7690$85cd07c4@d> <3E748FEE.9000902@potentialtech.com> <003001c2ebd0$32b73e70$85cd07c4@d> In-Reply-To: <003001c2ebd0$32b73e70$85cd07c4@d> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG DJ Boris wrote: > yes I have dialup yes. > my named.conf is actually quite simple as I only use it for dns forwarding > therefore I don't actually need to set the heartbeat-interval. if I start > named, let it dial, wait for the ppp time out to expire and leave the system > for days without any traffic it doesn't dial. so it is working properly. the > only thing that I can't uinderstand is why named makes ppp dial out when it > is only suppoed to forward dns requests. and I have no other app that does > dns requests. I'm not 100% sure I understand you here. You seem to think that forwarding DNS requests should not cause DNS to trigger a dial. This would only be true if your forwarders did not require a dial to reach. I don't understand your concern with the fact that it dials on startup. Do you start and stop the DNS server a lot? If you really need it to stop, add suppress-initial-notify to yes. See if that helps. Hope I've said something here that is helpful. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Moran" > To: "DJ Boris" > Cc: "freebsd-questions" > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:53 PM > Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup > > > >>DJ Boris wrote: >> >>>hi there, >>> >>>I use named to only forward dns requests (if any). every time I start it >>>(manually from the command line) it dials out. then the ppp times out > > after > >>>3 mins, connection gets dropped and everything geos back to normal. as > > soon > >>>as a dns request arrives ppp kicks in.. and so on and so on. >>> >>>in named.conf I have forward only and have set forwarders. so everything > > is > >>>OK but just that initial dial out at start up is annoying me. >>> >>>i have read named.conf manual and there is says that you can put "dialup >>>yes" have done that but no luck and I think this option is more for > > proper > >>>dns and doesn't apply to dns forwarding >> >>Did you put the "dialup yes" as a global option? If not, it might only > > apply > >>to certain zones, and other zones will update as needed. >> >>Also, did you set the "heartbeat-interval"? I don't know what the default > > is, > >>but you'll probably want to set it pretty high. >> >>Also, the system will _always_ dial out if it doesn't have the DNS > > information > >>requested. >> >>Just some thoughts. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 9:25:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0892837B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:25:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (pa-plum1b-122.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.161.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1033743FB1 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:25:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com (working [172.16.0.95]) by pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h2GHPjTb010292; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:25:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Message-ID: <3E74B37D.1080304@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:25:17 -0500 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030301 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Ryan Cc: dan@slightlystrange.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Port Forwarding FreeBSD 4.7_Release References: <7FD4BD82-57A3-11D7-AD24-0030654886A6@overdose.com> In-Reply-To: <7FD4BD82-57A3-11D7-AD24-0030654886A6@overdose.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Ryan wrote: > > On Saturday, March 15, 2003, at 03:06 am, Bill Moran wrote: > >> Matthew Ryan wrote: >> >>> On Saturday, March 15, 2003, at 12:13 am, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >>> >>>>> Fact is, natd _only_ redirects from the interface is was told to >>>>> bind to. >>>>> I'm not exactly sure why the packets don't route out and back in >>>>> when you >>>>> try it from inside, but they don't ;( so you always need to test it >>>>> from >>>>> the external interface. >>>> >>>> The reason they don't "route out" is that they are addressed to the >>>> router, so it doesn't bother to forward them outside. >>>> >>> Ok, I understand, this does present me with a bit of a problem >>> however, accessing my mail server from home for example. Can you >>> think of a workaround? >> >> I don't fully understand the question. What exactly do you mean by >> "from home"? Is the mail server behind the firewall? You can port >> forward/reroute just about anything to anywhere, with enough time and >> patience. But there's not enough information in the statement you just >> made for anyone to help you much. >> > sorry, i'll try to be more explicit. I have a number of services on > ports forwarded from my external IP address to an internal IP address > via NAT as we have discussed. > > The problem is that I can not access these services from inside nat. > > Example - My mail server address resolves to my external IP number. It's > primarily a mobility issue. From inside NAT I can't collect my mail > unless I specifically point my browser at the internal IP number of my > mail server. Yes I can get around this with some sort of client location > manager or by connecting to the internet via a route other than my LAN, > but none of these options are ideal. I understand. I don't know if there is any "ideal" solution, but I'll offer a few suggestions. You may be able to run a second instance of natd that works on the internal interface and redirects traffic as you would like. This would be experimental: I have no idea if it would work and only a guess as to how to configure it. You could also put an alias IP address on the internal machine and manipulate the routing so it always goes the right place. This will probably be tricky, and each time I try to work it out in my head, I end up with a problem. But I suppose it's worth a try. (warning: you could effectively shut your network down by doing this wrong!) > I am hoping for a routing solution, and I am pleased to read your > comforting words: > >> You can port forward/reroute just about anything to anywhere, with >> enough time and >> patience. Well ... sometimes it takes a LOT of time an patience ... > Lowell Gilbert suggests running local DNS (thanks) but I have no > experience of DNS and I had other areas of learning in mind for the moment. Unfortunately for you, I think running internal DNS is the closest to "ideal" that you're going to get. The basic concept is that outside on the internet, "mail.domain.com" resolves to the external interface that is forwarded to your internal machine. Inside your LAN, a custom DNS server answers your queries, and it points "mail.domain.com" directly to the machine on the local LAN. Thus, you only need put "mail.domain.com" into your POP3 config and it always points to the right place. I've also heard that newer versions of BIND have a more elegant way of doing the same thing, but I don't have any experience with that yet. > Can anyone think of another solution? So far, only the other idea I describe above. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 9:31:46 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D3537B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:31:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from naboo.blacktrap.net (212.68.218.22.brutele.be [212.68.218.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3061543F75 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:31:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olinether@blacktrap.net) Received: from naboo.blacktrap.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by naboo.blacktrap.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2GHZ2Lc005308; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:35:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olinether@naboo.blacktrap.net) Received: (from olinether@localhost) by naboo.blacktrap.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h2GHZ1KG005307; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:35:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:35:00 +0100 From: Olivier Dony To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: mod_cgi not working at all/weird behaviour Message-ID: <20030316183500.A5276@naboo.blacktrap.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I posted a problem some days ago about POST data not being passed to my cgi perl scripts. This only happens on my FreeBSD4.7-RELEASE server. Well in the process of troubleshooting I noticed that if I disabled mod_gzip (which is the only thing I don't have on my other working servers) my scripts stopped working completely with error 500. I tried then to reinstall everything. So I deinstalled perl, apache and what depends on it, deleted apache's conf file and reinstalled everything *but mod_gzip*. Well my cgi's aren't working a bit more than before! Anything I put in a cgi script ends with an internal error 500, and in the errorlog it always says : [Fri Mar 14 00:18:19 2003] [error] [client 212.68.212.45] Premature end of script headers: /home/oli/public_html/cgi-bin/test.cgi *Anything*, meaning that it fails too with a basic script like this : --- #!/bin/sh echo "content-type: text/html" echo " hello" --- (the empty line after content-type is there) My scripts are done by hand using vim, so no binary ftp xfer involved. All the scripts are chmod'd 0755, the containing directory too, and they give the expected output when run in the console. This is with apache 1.3.27_4 from the ports, mod_php4 4.3.1, and perl base or perl 5.6.1_11 from the ports (same result). I've tried doing tests to output this basic thing with sh, perl, php, etc.. everything gives the same 500 error when executed through CGI, while working ok in the console!! And guess what, if I reinstall mod_gzip, as soon as it is enabled and set to handle cgi-script with (mod_gzip_item_include mime ^text/html and mod_gzip_item_include handler ^cgi-script$) the scripts start to work, ie they give the expected output, but the first problem comes back : POST data is always empty. So I had to change my scripts to use GET for submitting forms, which is ugly and might even trigger query-string length problems I suppose. I'm completely lost, this doesn't seem to make sense at all, but is probably making sense if I knew where to look... The rest of the webserver is doing fine, basic html files and php are working ok, even with POST data! How could mod_gzip make my cgi scripts work, but only partly, and how come they aren't working at all without it, when working ok on my other FreeBSD webservers ?? Could someone help me or advice me before I completely lose my poor mind? ;-) I've tried to reinstall everything, change permissions etc.. Always the same result... Thanks a lot in advance if someone can provide any sort of help! Olivier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 9:48:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABB937B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:48:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (pa-plum1b-122.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.161.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEBA43FA3 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:48:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com (working [172.16.0.95]) by pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h2GHm7Tb010302; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:48:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Message-ID: <3E74B8BC.4030009@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:47:40 -0500 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030301 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Dony Cc: Simon Barner , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too many collisions on network? References: <005d01c2ebcb$82b343b0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> <20030316152335.GA1434@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> <002201c2ebd3$92d0a7d0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> In-Reply-To: <002201c2ebd3$92d0a7d0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Olivier Dony wrote: > On Sunday, 16 March, 2003 16:23, Simon Barner wrote: > >>Are you running your network adaptor in full-duplex mode? Perhaps the device on >>the other end of the wire does only support half-duplex. Changing this increased >>the throughput from 20kb/s to almost 1mb/s on our internal network here >>(10baseT/UTP). > > > I'm not really sure about this, here is the output of ifconfig related > to the external interface : > > root@charon:/root# ifconfig -m fxp0 > fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet xxx.xxx.191.100 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast xxx.xxx.191.111 > inet xxx.xxx.191.101 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast xxx.xxx.191.101 > ether 00:e0:81:23:c5:32 > media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) > status: active > supported media: > media autoselect > media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex > media 100baseTX > media 10baseT/UTP mediaopt full-duplex > media 10baseT/UTP > media 100baseTX mediaopt hw-loopback > > It seems that fxp(4) supports full-duplex but that it is currently > disabled, and I guess this is because the other end of the wire doesn't > support it, since the media has been autoselected? Please correct me > as I have never played a lot with ifconfig except for basic configutarion. > I wouldn't be too eager to do tests with this setting since this is a > production server and I have no direct physical access to it, so shutting > down the only interface by mistake is *not* an option ;-) > But if I was to change it, how would I go about this without shutting down > fxp0? 'ifconfig fxp0 media 10baseT/UTP mediaopt full-duplex' ?? I have seen cases where the media type was auto-negiotiated wrong. I think this was due to crappy wiring, but the circumstances didn't allow for a lot of experimenting. I would suggest talking to your ISP and verifying what the connection _should_ be. Then work towards getting it there. When the two ends see something different, performance blows. Going to full-duplex should reduce collisions to 0, and give you the max performance available. I just did some experimenting with turning duplex from half to full and back on my computer here, and if there's any interruption, it was less than I could easily measure. Don't know if that'll be the same with all switches or not. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 9:55:34 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EB737B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:55:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from glamredhel.hayholt.org (elvandar.hayholt.org [195.18.109.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260EB43FBF for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:55:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@hayholt.org) Received: from eldar (unknown [192.168.0.5]) by glamredhel.hayholt.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9272A342 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:54:06 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:55:29 +0100 (CET) From: Marcel Stangenberger X-X-Sender: marcel@eldar To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: no image when playing with mplayer/aviplayer Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I just installed mplayer and aviplayer on my workstation, but when i try to play an avi file i only get a blue box on my screen. I do get the sound tho. Anybody have any clue on what i am missing here? Marcel -- Real programmers don't write in FORTRAN. FORTRAN is for pipe stress freaks and crystallography weenies. FORTRAN is for wimp engineers who wear white socks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 10:19:26 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C097B37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:19:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from supermail.mweb.co.za (supermail.mweb.co.za [196.2.53.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE03A43FA3 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:19:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dj_boris@mail.ru) Received: from [196.7.205.244] (helo=d) by supermail.mweb.co.za with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18uccb-0007JJ-00; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:12:34 +0200 Message-ID: <006701c2ebe8$359a2630$f4cd07c4@d> From: "DJ Boris" To: "Bill Moran" Cc: "freebsd-questions" References: <001f01c2ebc5$b67c7690$85cd07c4@d> <3E748FEE.9000902@potentialtech.com> <003001c2ebd0$32b73e70$85cd07c4@d> <3E74B1B3.1080306@potentialtech.com> Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:16:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have supress-initial-notify set to yes as well... no change. my DNS forwarders do require a dial out to reach but I don't see why this should happen when I start up named. Up until now I was using a Windows NT4 server and I had a programme called WinRoutePro http://www.infoware.be/en/winroute/index.htm. I was using its DNS forwarder, its proxy server and its mail server to download mail from one ISP account with 5 alised email addresses and then users could collect it from the NT4 machine using a POP3 client. now I am trying to do all this with a freeBSD box. none of this was happening on the NT4 machine with WinRoutePro and that is why I am confused. I do want DNS forwarding to trigger DNS requests but why is it happening when I start named. I don't shutdown my DNS server often. this is just one little thing that is very annoying and I thought it was something small that I was missing. the reason that I start named manually and not from rc.conf is because if I put it in rc.conf the machine hangs at startup and I have to do Crtl-C in otder to get to the login prompt. when I disable it in rc.conf everything is OK... I presume is it because named tries to dial as soon as it starts when the machine hasn't started all its services.... (I might be wrong about this one) so this is a workaround. or may be it is something else ?!?!? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Moran" To: "DJ Boris" Cc: "freebsd-questions" Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 7:17 PM Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup > DJ Boris wrote: > > yes I have dialup yes. > > my named.conf is actually quite simple as I only use it for dns forwarding > > therefore I don't actually need to set the heartbeat-interval. if I start > > named, let it dial, wait for the ppp time out to expire and leave the system > > for days without any traffic it doesn't dial. so it is working properly. the > > only thing that I can't uinderstand is why named makes ppp dial out when it > > is only suppoed to forward dns requests. and I have no other app that does > > dns requests. > > I'm not 100% sure I understand you here. > You seem to think that forwarding DNS requests should not cause DNS to trigger > a dial. This would only be true if your forwarders did not require a dial to > reach. > I don't understand your concern with the fact that it dials on startup. Do > you start and stop the DNS server a lot? If you really need it to stop, add > suppress-initial-notify to yes. See if that helps. > > Hope I've said something here that is helpful. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Moran" > > To: "DJ Boris" > > Cc: "freebsd-questions" > > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:53 PM > > Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup > > > > > > > >>DJ Boris wrote: > >> > >>>hi there, > >>> > >>>I use named to only forward dns requests (if any). every time I start it > >>>(manually from the command line) it dials out. then the ppp times out > > > > after > > > >>>3 mins, connection gets dropped and everything geos back to normal. as > > > > soon > > > >>>as a dns request arrives ppp kicks in.. and so on and so on. > >>> > >>>in named.conf I have forward only and have set forwarders. so everything > > > > is > > > >>>OK but just that initial dial out at start up is annoying me. > >>> > >>>i have read named.conf manual and there is says that you can put "dialup > >>>yes" have done that but no luck and I think this option is more for > > > > proper > > > >>>dns and doesn't apply to dns forwarding > >> > >>Did you put the "dialup yes" as a global option? If not, it might only > > > > apply > > > >>to certain zones, and other zones will update as needed. > >> > >>Also, did you set the "heartbeat-interval"? I don't know what the default > > > > is, > > > >>but you'll probably want to set it pretty high. > >> > >>Also, the system will _always_ dial out if it doesn't have the DNS > > > > information > > > >>requested. > >> > >>Just some thoughts. > > -- > Bill Moran > Potential Technologies > http://www.potentialtech.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 10:21: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1BA37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:21:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lv.raad.tartu.ee (lv.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3108C43F85 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:21:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: Message by Barricade lv.raad.tartu.ee with ESMTP id h2GIKvU24279; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:20:57 +0200 Message-Id: <200303161820.h2GIKvU24279@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Received: from INFO/SpoolDir by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48); 16 Mar 03 20:20:40 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by INFO (Mercury 1.48); 16 Mar 03 20:20:21 +0200 From: "Toomas Aas" Organization: Tartu City Government To: Malcolm Kay , questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:20:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: vinum based system In-reply-to: <200303151623.03287.Malcolm.Kay@internode.on.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! > Having no experience with vinum or software RAID systems a number of > questions come to mind: > > 1) All the examples appear to use scsi drives; but I assume EIDE are also > usable? IDE seems to be pretty good these days and much cheaper than scsi. Yes, IDE drives can be used with Vinum. As to the price/quality ratio, that's up to you to decide. I myself still prefer SCSI for servers. I'd use SCSI, if the server needs to be, as you say, "fairly reliable with respect to hardware failure - particularly disk drives". > 2)To what extent can the system be fully mirrored? Without RAID hardware it > seems to me that a conventional disk partition outside the mirrored volume is > probably necessary for mounting / ; is this true? Yes. > 3)If the regular partition is necessary can this be taken as a modest slice > from one of the disks whose major part is devoted to the mirror volume, > and perhaps the corresponding slice on the other used for swap? Yes. That's (almost) exactly what I'm doing - the "corresponding slice on the other disk" is used for swap and /var/tmp. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Be sure to use DEVICE=EXXON to screw up your environment. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 10:26:18 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A4737B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:26:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from cornflake.nickelkid.com (cornflake.nickelkid.com [216.116.135.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147E543F75 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:26:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gglynn@biffduncan.com) Received: from cornflake.nickelkid.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cornflake.nickelkid.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2GIQM17006601 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:26:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gglynn@biffduncan.com) Received: from localhost (gglynn@localhost) by cornflake.nickelkid.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h2GIQLaK006598 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:26:22 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: cornflake.nickelkid.com: gglynn owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:26:21 -0500 (EST) From: George Glynn X-X-Sender: gglynn@cornflake.nickelkid.com To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Compiling with -pthread Message-ID: <20030316131804.R6564-100000@cornflake.nickelkid.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm attempting to compile mod_php4 with support for Verisign's PayFlow Pro credit card payment system. Verisign distributes a PayFlow Pro "SDK" (I use the term loosely, and only because that's what they call it) for FreeBSD 4.x that contains a precompiled shared library called libpfpro.so and an associated header file pfpro.h. One of the problems that I'm having using the library is that it is threaded with POSIX threads, while my current installation of Apache 1.3 + mod_ssl + mod_php4 is built without pthread support. I'm not up on programming and compiling threaded applications, so my questions are: 1) Can I just go ahead and recompile all three components with CFLAGS+= -pthread without doing anything unexpected to Apache and mod_ssl? 2) Do I have to recompile Apache and mod_ssl with -pthread, or can I get away with just recompiling mod_php4? Thanks in advance, George To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 10:26:32 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B173937B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:26:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from supermail.mweb.co.za (supermail.mweb.co.za [196.2.53.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EAB43FB1 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:26:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dj_boris@mail.ru) Received: from [196.7.205.244] (helo=d) by supermail.mweb.co.za with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18uclT-0007nf-00; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:21:43 +0200 Message-ID: <007801c2ebe9$7cf65160$f4cd07c4@d> From: "DJ Boris" To: Cc: "freebsd-questions" References: <003601c2ebaf$77fd2c40$85cd07c4@d> <200303161217.03476.tcornpropst@cox.net> Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:25:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I thought of that but I _do_ want DNS requests to trigger a dial out because I run a proxy on that same machine though which users on the LAN can access the internet. I saw that one in the samples about packet filtering in ppp but I really don't see what the point is. Surely if you don't want this to happen you simply don't run a DNS server. I really don't understand this one about filtering out DNS requests .... anyway may be it has its uses ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor S. Cornpropst" To: "DJ Boris" ; "freebsd-questions" Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 7:17 PM Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup > On Sunday 16 March 2003 06:29, DJ Boris wrote: > > hi there, > > > > I use named to only forward dns requests (if any). every time I start it > > (manually from the command line) it dials out. then the ppp times out after > > 3 mins, connection gets dropped and everything geos back to normal. as soon > > as a dns request arrives ppp kicks in.. and so on and so on. > > > > in named.conf I have forward only and have set forwarders. so everything is > > OK but just that initial dial out at start up is annoying me. > > > > i have read named.conf manual and there is says that you can put "dialup > > yes" have done that but no luck and I think this option is more for proper > > dns and doesn't apply to dns forwarding > > > > any ideas? > > > > thanx > > dj_boris > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > You want to configure this behavior in ppp. ppp offers packet filtering with > the ability to allow/deny packets during certain states of operation, one of > them being "dial". See /usr/share/examples/ppp/ppp.conf.sample around line > 280 to see how you prevent DNS packets from initiating a dial up. man ppp may > also shed some light on your problem. > > Trevor Cornpropst > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 10:33:53 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4171137B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:33:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.acd.net (smtp.acd.net [207.179.64.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7B443F93 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:33:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from taxman@ACD.NET) Received: from 207.179.99.29 ([207.179.99.29]) by smtp.acd.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:33:38 -0500 From: taxman To: Lars Eighner , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to make a linux binary run on FreeBSD Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:37:00 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030316082949.Y572@pearl.io.com> In-Reply-To: <20030316082949.Y572@pearl.io.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303161337.00677.taxman@acd.net> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2003 18:33:38.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[8FCE6CE0:01C2EBEA] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 16 March 2003 09:31 am, Lars Eighner wrote: > I have a Savage/IX agp card. Savage/IX was developed for > laptops so of its three possible output devices (LCD, CRT, > and several flavors of TV), by default it assumes that is > attached to a 640x480 LCD. Naturally this produces > undesirable results when a CRT is attached instead. > > S3 provided a utility (s3switch) which allows choose which > output device or combination of output devices are attached. > This utility works fine with RedHat 8.0. It runs from the > command line or within X. > > When I run it from the command line in FreeBSD 4.8-RC with > linux-compatibility in my kernel, the S3 utility fails > thusly: > > vm86() failed > return = 0xffffffda > eax = 0x00004f14 > ebx = 0x00000003 > ecx = 0x00000001 > edx = 0x00000000 > esi = 0x00000000 > edi = 0x00000000 > ebp = 0x00000000 > eip = 0x00004898 > cs = 0xc000 > esp = 0x00000ffa > ss = 0x1000 > ds = 0x0000 > es = 0x0000 > fs = 0x0000 > gs = 0x0000 > eflags = 0x00003200 > cs:ip = [ fb fc 80 fc 0e 74 48 80 fc 0c 74 46 80 fc 0d 74 ] > Can't change device (vm86 failure) > > And this message is broadcast: "linux: syscall vm86old is > obsoleted or not implemented. This seems pretty clear. The linuix syscall that this program uses is not supported on FreeBSD. The linux binary compatibility is pretty good for userland binaries and so forth. But any time you get into hardware, you're stepping closer into that 10% of linux code that will not run on FreeBSD. It seems your only option would be to port that source code to FreeBSD, and use the right syscalls. Try an email to -hackers to see if anybody has any ideas on that. Personally given how cheap a simple working videocard can be, ($10 used) I don't know if I would beat my head against a wall to try to get it working. But if you want to experiment for fun, then by all means don't let me discourage. > > Naturally, the source code will not compile on FreeBSD as it > includes a number of headers which don't exist in FreeBSD, > and according to Roberts' web page the utility depends on > vm86, from which I surmise there is no simple way to make it > compile and run on FreeBSD, with or without linux > compatibility. Well I think porting the code would be more likely than getting the binary to work. Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 10:38:35 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA4F37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:38:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from pfepc.post.tele.dk (pfepc.post.tele.dk [193.162.153.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34B343FB1 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:38:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from td@projectjj.dk) Received: from duronica (cpe.atm2-0-103264.0xc2c087d6.odnxx5.customer.tele.dk [194.192.135.214]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 3CDAA262B02 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:38:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <037801c2ebeb$38b7d990$0401a8c0@duronica> From: "Tino Didriksen" To: References: <20030316131804.R6564-100000@cornflake.nickelkid.com> Subject: Intelligent Bandwidth Limiter? Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:38:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (trying this again, since it didn't appear last time I sent it...) I have a dedicated server with 500GB monthly transfer limit, and I don't = want to cross that limit. So, I want to impose an artificial maximum bandwidth, yet not until a = certain threshold has been reached. Example: I have 500GB total max monthly transfer. I want a 400GB threshold before the limiter kicks in, which will impose = a byte/second limit for the remaining 100GB, so that it never goes over = 500GB for the month. But, from when the limiter has started till the end of the month, it = should recalculate remaining GB every half hour and adjust the = byte/second limit accordingly, since peak/idle hours are so varied. Reasoning: I don't want a simple flat byte/second limit for the whole 500GB/month, = since that would be 202 kilobyte/second ((500*1024*1024*1024) / = (60*60*24*30)), but peak and idle varies more than that. Realisticly, I doubt I'll even pass 100GB/month, but better safe than = sorry... Anyways, this should be on an interface level (as in running on the same = computer), not an external proxy. -- Tino Didriksen / Project JJ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 10:46: 2 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF0E37B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:46:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.acd.net (smtp.acd.net [207.179.102.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FC443FA3 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:45:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from taxman@ACD.NET) Received: from 207.179.99.29 ([207.179.99.29]) by smtp.acd.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:45:48 -0500 From: taxman To: "Joe Sotham" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: latest stable branch upgrade fails Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:49:11 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <1168.192.168.0.1.1047830835.squirrel@sigfried> In-Reply-To: <1168.192.168.0.1.1047830835.squirrel@sigfried> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303161349.11092.taxman@acd.net> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2003 18:45:49.0021 (UTC) FILETIME=[431760D0:01C2EBEC] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 16 March 2003 11:07 am, Joe Sotham wrote: > Here's my stable cvsup file: Then the correct list for this is freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > *default host=cvsup.ca.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 > *default delete use-rel-suffix > *default compress > src-all > > In the /usr/src directory I did a make clean, then make I don't think a make clean will do anything good for you, but I could be mistaken. I think make distclean is what you are looking for. I can't find the references on that atm. Did you delete your usr/obj directory too? If not, stuff left in there could cause your problem. > The following error occurs. I have tried this a number of times including > deleting the entire src tree and then cvsuping again. Do you get the exact same error even after cvsupping your src tree again? also if you want better help, try to include the most information you can. I deduced that the failure was during buildworld, but you didn't note that. What version are you running right now? btw, if you delete your src tree, try copying one over from the latest CD you have then cvsupping, it will save a lot of network bandwidth for you and the servers. hth, Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 10:46:37 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902FF37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:46:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from bjg315moy5xl.ab.hsia.telus.net (bjg315moy5xl.ab.hsia.telus.net [137.186.193.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B07843F75 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:46:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ecjnixr@narod.ru) From: Американский Деловой Центр 411-0232 To: Questions Subject: Бизнес Английский для Вас ,Вашей Фирмы и Вашей Семьи RWnCA2G5TZ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030316184629.5B07843F75@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:46:29 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG

Интенсивный 2 месячный бизнес супер-курс 2003 American Business Center / 411-02-32 Moscow

Наверное не стоит говорить о том, насколько важно для путешествующего бизнесмена знать ежедневно используемый язык делового мира той страны, в которую он приехал, иначе добиться успеха практически невозможно.
Предлагаем вашему вниманию супер бизнес программу!
  • Курс профессионального делового языка (3 уровня)
  • (для начинающих (1+), средний и продвинутый уровни)
  • Менеджмент
  • Бизнес юриспруденция
  • Финансы
Занятия проходят в деловых группах, возможны также частные уроки с выездом в офис или домой.

Наш наиболее популярный курс делового языка предлагает широчайший спектр самых свежих и актуальных экономических тематик. Первоочередная задача обучения ориентирована, главным образом, на развитие разговорных навыков, умения общаться и осуществлять переговоры с иностранными партнерами на профессиональном уровне.

Гибкий трафик занятий по два, три раза в неделю по два астрономических часа на ваш выбор.

Также проводим бесплатное тестирование заинтересованных лиц и подробно знакомим их с нашей программой.
УНИВЕРСАЛЬНЫЙ ДЕЛОВОЙ ЯЗЫК, ИДИОМЫ И ЛЕКСИКА:
0101 Каждая общественная группа разговаривает на своем уникальном языке (например, лксика, используемая врачами, техниками, юристами, политиками, работниками ресторанов и т.д.), который пересекает языковые барьеры и широко используется почти в каждой американской фирме. Любой, кто занимается бизнесом в США должен знать или изучить приведенные ниже термины, поскольку с ними ему придется встретиться сразу же, как только он начнет разговаривать с первым, встретившим его в фирме, сотрудником.
ЛЕКСИКА ОФИЦИАЛЬНЫХ ДЕЛОВЫХ ВСТРЕЧ:
0202 Многие фирмы, как правило, устраивают официальные встречи, вечера, ужины, которые имеют своей целью общение с клиентурой, повышение морального духа сотрудников и установление новых деловых контактов. Поскольку подобные мероприятия преследуют не только деловые цели, но и являются средством отдыха и развлечения, существуют два вида языка, использующихся на этих встречах.
ФИНАНСОВЫЙ ЯЗЫК И ЛЕКСИКА:
0303 Существует много терминов и выражений, относящихся к денежному обращени. и финансам, причем эти выражения широко используются всеми группами населения. Однако, существует и дополнительная, не всегда доступная для понимания лексика, используемая главным образом профессионалами в области финансов, экономики, банковского дела и бухгалтерии.
ЯЗЫК, ИСПОЛЬЗУЕМЫЙ В ОТДЕЛЬНЫХ ВИДАХ СПОРТА И ВСТРЕЧАЮЩИЙСЯ В РАЗГОВОРЕ АМЕРИКАНСКИХ БИЗНЕСМЕНОВ:
0404 Бейсбол, баскетбол, бокс, футбол (американский), скачки, парусный спорт, плавание, теннис и легкая атлетика. Спорт дал рождение большлму количеству языковых выражений не только в области самого спорта, но и в повседневном разговоре людей, которые не имеют к спорту никакого отношения.
ШИРОКО РАСПРОСТРАНЕННЫЕ АББРЕВИАТУРЫ, ОТНОСЯЩИЕСЯ К ФИНАНСАМ:
0505 Наиболее распространненных инициал и аббревиатур, известных практически всем, кто имеет дело с деньгами и финансами.
РЕКЛАМНАЯ ЛЕКСИКА И ЯЗЫК:
0606 Поскольку реклама становится все более творческой, умной и неповторимой, можно предположить, что и лексика в этой области является довольно выразительной. Приводятся наиболее распространенные термины известные всем, кто бывает на Мэдисон Авеню.
ЛЕКСИКА МАРКЕТИНГА:
0707 Почти что все термины, которые вам понадобятся, для вступления в мир маркетинга. Куда бы мы не пошли, мы повсюду окружены различными формами маркетинга, от листовок до плакатов на улицах, от благодарственных писем до звонких стишков, от разговорных фраз до текстов, выписываемых в небе самолетами. Именно потому, что каждый прием в маркетинге имеет свое обозначение, для непосвященного в это многое кажется почти не имеющим смысла и излишним. Многие из терминов образованы от ярких художественных образов. Что, например, может означать такое выражение, как "корова с колокольчиком", "отзвук выстрела" или "боковик"?
ЯЗЫК И ЛЕКСИКА ДЕЛОВЫХ ПОЕЗДОК:
0808 Термины являются знакомыми не только любому американскому бизнесмену-путешественнику, но и каждому. кто едет в отпуск, планирует путешествие или просто провожает кого-нибудь в аэропорту.
ЛЕКСИКА, ОТНОСЯЩАЯСЯ К ПЕРЕГОВОРАМ:
0909 Не следует, вероятно, особенно подчеркивать тот факт, что всякий, для которого незнаком язык переговоров, всегда оказывается в необычном, зачастую весьма тяжелом положении. Без понимания особого языка переговоров важные дискуссии и соглашения могут поняты превратно.
СЛОВА МИТИНГОВ И ВСТРЕЧ:
1010 Существует ряд терминов и идиом, которые обычно используются на митингах и встречах.
КОМПЬЮТЕРНЫЙ ЯЗЫК И ЛЕКСИКА:
1111 Каждый, кто когда-нибудь принимал решение о покупке персонального компьютера, непрерывно попадал в среду рекламных объявлений, компьютерных фанатов, торговцев и других личностей, которые говорили на малопонятном техническом языке, кажущимся каким-то другим языком. На самом же деле, это тайный язык, линго, является продуктом тех, кто производит компьютерную технику и кто полагает, что чем более сложна компьютерная терминология, тем желаннее будет выглядеть их продукция в глазах покупателя.
ИНТЕНСИВНЫЙ 2 МЕСЯЧНЫЙ TOEFL КУРС:
1212 Мы помогаем студентам эффективно сдать экзамен TOEFL, пройти собеседование в иностранной компании или для эмиграции в США, Канаду, Австралию.
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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 11: 3:42 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9582637B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:03:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bg (ip220-81.mnet.bg [193.110.220.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6195843F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:03:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dpenev@mail.bg) Received: from mail.bg (localhost. [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bg (8.12.8/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h2GJ3vRv011934; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:03:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from dpenev@mail.bg) Received: (from dpenev@localhost) by mail.bg (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h2GJ3qgr011933; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:03:52 +0200 (EET) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:03:52 +0200 From: Dancho Penev To: "Jorge Mario G." Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a bit confused with new rc.d system in 5.0 Message-ID: <20030316190352.GB11417@earth.dpsca.bg> Mail-Followup-To: "Jorge Mario G." , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <4081.192.168.0.4.1047816356.squirrel@mail.linopryne.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4081.192.168.0.4.1047816356.squirrel@mail.linopryne.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 07:05:56AM -0500, Jorge Mario G. wrote: >Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:05:56 -0500 (EST) >Subject: a bit confused with new rc.d system in 5.0 >From: "Jorge Mario G." >To: > >Hi there >I just installed 5.0 >the first thing I noticed is the new rc system >yeah looks good but I'm totally lost! >so what is the difference between /etc/rc.sendmail and /erc/rc.d/sendmail > >I tried the handbook but there is no info about how to properly use this >new system!. > >I like to integrate my scripts with the system so I would like to learn >this new stuff > >so please if anyone could point me to some kind of doc/info I'll >appreciate it rc man page is pretty well starting point, also look at NetBSD site: http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/rc/ (because rc.d system is imported from netbsd). > >Thanks > > >Jorge > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Regards, Dancho Penev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 11:32:18 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B190237B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:32:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from comrite-mdb.co.za (rdg-dial-196-2-33-211.mweb.co.za [196.2.33.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E55143F85 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:32:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ian@cerebellum.za.net) Received: from [196.30.239.76] (helo=ian) by comrite-mdb.co.za with asmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18udrG-000GEF-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:31:51 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Ian Barnes To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Openoffice build error Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:28:42 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200303162128.42536.ian@cerebellum.za.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I am trying to build the latest version of openoffice (cvsupped earlier).= I=20 get this error bellow, i am runing a 5.0 Rel system with X4, and KDE 3.1 [root@ian] /usr/ports/editors/openoffice # make install REQUIREMENTS: OO requires that the ENV variable LANG is set to a proper value. Dependent on which language port you use, OO does automatically set LANG to a suitable value. You can change this with: USE_LANG=3D"prefered language" and set a different language like: en_US.ISO8859-15 en_US.ISO8859-1 US-ASCII Your current setting is: USE_LANG=3Den_US.ISO8859-15 OPTIONS: You can compile OO with different gcc compiler versions: Add USE_GCC=3D2.95 or USE_GCC=3D3.1 to compile openoffice with your prefered compiler. If you like to use the native BSD JDK for the build system, you can use WITH_BSD_JDK=3DTRUE to disable the usage of the linux-JDK and linux dependency. You can compile OO with debug symbols if you call make with WITH_DEBUG=3D1 If you set WITH_DEBUG=3D2, you add internal OO.org debug support. You may set WITH_TTF_BYTECODE_ENABLED=3DYES if you like to use the Freetype library to render TTF fonts. Normally the TTF lib is not used to render fonts. If you have licensed the Apple patents US05155805 US05159668 and US05325479 you can enable this option to get better quality of glyphs at small bitmap sizes. NOTICE: To build Openoffice, you should have a lot of free diskspace (~ 4GB). =3D=3D=3D> Extracting for openoffice-1.0.2_1 >> Checksum OK for openoffice/OOo_1.0.2_source.tar.bz2. >> Checksum OK for openoffice/gpc231.tar.Z. >> Checksum OK for openoffice/patch-openoffice-mozilla101-2002-10-14. =3D=3D=3D> Extracting mozilla sub project >> libart_lgpl-1.0.2.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfile= s/. >> Attempting to fetch from=20 ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/marcus/. fetch:=20 ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/marcus/libart_lgp= l-1.0.2.tar.bz2:=20 Service not available, closing control connection >> Attempting to fetch from=20 ftp://ftp.se.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/marcus/. fetch: transfer timed out >> Attempting to fetch from=20 ftp://ftp.uk.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/marcus/. Receiving libart_lgpl-1.0.2.tar.bz2 (97936 bytes): 100% (ETA 00:00) 97936 bytes transferred in 222.3 seconds (440.64 Bps) =3D=3D=3D> Extracting for mozilla-1.0.2_1 >> Checksum mismatch for mozilla-source-1.0.2.tar.bz2. >> Checksum OK for libart_lgpl-1.0.2.tar.bz2. Make sure the Makefile and distinfo file=20 (/usr/ports/editors/openoffice/work/mozilla/distinfo) are up to date. If you are absolutely sure you want to override this check, type "make NO_CHECKSUM=3Dyes [other args]". *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice/work/mozilla. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice. [root@ian] /usr/ports/editors/openoffice # Anyone have any ideas ? Ian --=20 ---------------------------------- BOFH - Mom's Pharmacies Email: ian@cerebellum.za.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 11:41:52 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF26537B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:41:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lakemtao04.cox.net (lakemtao04.cox.net [68.1.17.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B3143F75 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:41:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tcornpropst@cox.net) Received: from beastie.cornpropst.net ([68.100.175.64]) by lakemtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030316194149.QIOX22825.lakemtao04.cox.net@beastie.cornpropst.net>; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:41:49 -0500 From: "Trevor S. Cornpropst" Reply-To: tcornpropst@acm.org To: "DJ Boris" Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:41:47 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions" References: <001f01c2ebc5$b67c7690$85cd07c4@d> <3E74B1B3.1080306@potentialtech.com> <006701c2ebe8$359a2630$f4cd07c4@d> In-Reply-To: <006701c2ebe8$359a2630$f4cd07c4@d> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303161441.47888.tcornpropst@cox.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 16 March 2003 13:16, DJ Boris wrote: > I have supress-initial-notify set to yes as well... no change. > my DNS forwarders do require a dial out to reach but I don't see why this > should happen when I start up named. > Up until now I was using a Windows NT4 server and I had a programme called > WinRoutePro http://www.infoware.be/en/winroute/index.htm. I was using its > DNS forwarder, its proxy server and its mail server to download mail from > one ISP account with 5 alised email addresses and then users could collect > it from the NT4 machine using a POP3 client. > now I am trying to do all this with a freeBSD box. none of this was > happening on the NT4 machine with WinRoutePro and that is why I am > confused. I do want DNS forwarding to trigger DNS requests but why is it > happening when I start named. I don't shutdown my DNS server often. this is > just one little thing that is very annoying and I thought it was something > small that I was missing. > > the reason that I start named manually and not from rc.conf is because if I > put it in rc.conf the machine hangs at startup and I have to do Crtl-C in > otder to get to the login prompt. when I disable it in rc.conf everything > is OK... I presume is it because named tries to dial as soon as it starts > when the machine hasn't started all its services.... (I might be wrong > about this one) so this is a workaround. or may be it is something else > ?!?!? Apologies, I didn't understand your problem in the first reply. You are correct "dialup yes" in your named.conf is not going to help as you are only runnlng a caching server, so you won't need to do zone transfers. I'm thinking your named is trying to sort some things out when it starts, hence the hang. Do you have anything in /etc/hosts or /etc/resolv.conf? BB (before broadband) I used to run a similar configuration but I always defined an internal zone for my network and never experienced this type of hang. Other than that, my config was always straight forward. (i.e. set up my internal zone, forward all other requests to my ISP) Trevor Cornpropst To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 11:50:55 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762E137B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:50:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from naboo.blacktrap.net (212.68.218.22.brutele.be [212.68.218.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A199F43F75 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:50:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from odony@student.info.ucl.ac.be) Received: from arkania (olinether@arkania [192.168.2.21]) by naboo.blacktrap.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id h2GJsALc005493; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:54:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from odony@student.info.ucl.ac.be) Message-ID: <025601c2ebf5$5abc25f0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> Reply-To: "Olivier Dony" From: "Olivier Dony" To: "Bill Moran" Cc: "Simon Barner" , References: <005d01c2ebcb$82b343b0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> <20030316152335.GA1434@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> <002201c2ebd3$92d0a7d0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> <3E74B8BC.4030009@potentialtech.com> Subject: Re: Too many collisions on network? Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:50:47 +0100 Organization: UCL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 16 March, 2003 18:47, Bill Moran wrote: > I have seen cases where the media type was auto-negiotiated wrong. I think > this was due to crappy wiring, but the circumstances didn't allow for a lot > of experimenting. FWIW : On the 3 servers where I have tested this, autoselect had every time selected half-duplex mode, and it seems a wrong choice for at least 2 of those 3 servers, see below. > I would suggest talking to your ISP and verifying what the connection _should_ > be. Then work towards getting it there. When the two ends see something > different, performance blows. I will try to contact the ISP during business hours and see what they tell me, and ask about this kind of shortage that happened too, because I still haven't figured out if the problem was network or server-related. > Going to full-duplex should reduce collisions to 0, and give you the max > performance available. I just did some experimenting with turning duplex > from half to full and back on my computer here, and if there's any interruption, > it was less than I could easily measure. Don't know if that'll be the same > with all switches or not. Well after doing some poking around on other servers first, I did change the mode and happily that didn't interrupt the connection. Also the collisions did drop to 0 on all 3 servers where I tried it, with a small difference : o On the other 2 servers I changed from autoselect 10BaseT/UTP h-d (resp. 100BaseTX/UTP) to 10BaseT/UTP full-duplex (resp. 100BaseTX/UTP f-d), and collisions dropped to 0, nothing else seems to have changed, still no i/o errors, and no change in the bytes throughput. o On the server I was talking about earlier, here is an excerpt of netstat while switching from half to full-duplex and back : input (Total) output packets errs bytes packets errs bytes colls 900 0 141953 1261 0 1351094 633 938 0 163593 1048 0 1157276 543 782 0 126538 938 0 1090243 414 771 0 124376 987 0 1217638 493 894 0 161036 1059 0 1111060 573 913 0 123942 1092 0 1028476 562 -> going full-duplex... here I guess 601 11 72155 695 0 569992 132 461 8 61467 566 0 560226 0 462 12 61552 546 0 649187 0 477 6 72589 555 0 649629 0 517 13 79602 624 0 668592 0 -> back to half-duplex with autoselect .. looks like here 0 0 42814 0 0 500765 0 815 0 150286 1128 0 1841082 749 1062 0 176522 1478 0 2051510 554 The input errors and other numbers were consistent during the few minutes of testing in all 3 cases, but I cut it to a few lines for the sake of the mailing-list. Is this increase in input errors and drop in bytes throughput a problem? I guess the input errors are not good, when we can see that there are no real erroneous packets coming in before. As for the change in throughput while the server load stayed constant, it doesn't look good either, and I didn't notice the same behaviour on the 2 others. Those don't have the same load though. Any ideas? And thanks again, I've learned a lot so far with your kind help :-) Olivier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 12: 8:59 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9AB137B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:08:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040BB43F93 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:08:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h2GK8sp27056; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:08:54 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: "Joe Sotham" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: latest stable branch upgrade fails Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:08:54 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <1168.192.168.0.1.1047830835.squirrel@sigfried> In-Reply-To: <1168.192.168.0.1.1047830835.squirrel@sigfried> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303161208.54406.kstewart@owt.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 16 March 2003 08:07 am, Joe Sotham wrote: > Here's my stable cvsup file: > *default host=cvsup.ca.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 > *default delete use-rel-suffix > *default compress > src-all > > In the /usr/src directory I did a make clean, then make > > The following error occurs. I have tried this a number of times > including deleting the entire src tree and then cvsuping again. Sorry about the copy but kmail would not include your error messages. You had Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf cc -O -pipe -Wall -DFREEBSD_ELF -I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/i386 -I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf -elf -fpic -DPIC -c rtld.c rtld.c:81: warning: `struct dl_serinfo' declared inside parameter list rtld.c:81: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, which is probably not what you want. A cvsup and buildworld from my cvs-mirror produced cc -O -pipe -Wall -DFREEBSD_ELF -I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/i386 -I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf -elf -fpic -DPIC -c /usr/src/libexe c/rtld-elf/i386/rtld_start.S cc -O -pipe -Wall -DFREEBSD_ELF -I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/i386 -I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf -elf -fpic -DPIC -c /usr/src/libexe c/rtld-elf/rtld.c cc -O -pipe -Wall -DFREEBSD_ELF -I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/i386 -I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf -elf -fpic -DPIC -c /usr/src/libexe c/rtld-elf/i386/lockdflt.c First of all, there are no error messages and second, my compile link to rtld.c is full path and not just rtld.c. Rtld.c was last modified 3 weeks ago. I kind of wonder if you have some old code left over in /usr/obj. If you clean it up and it still dies, change your cvsup mirror. There is something different on your system. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 12:17:28 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF5437B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:17:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from supermail.mweb.co.za (supermail.mweb.co.za [196.2.53.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2718443F75 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:17:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dj_boris@mail.ru) Received: from [196.7.205.244] (helo=d) by supermail.mweb.co.za with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18ueUq-0004hG-00; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:12:41 +0200 Message-ID: <001801c2ebf8$fd243320$f4cd07c4@d> From: "DJ Boris" To: Cc: "freebsd-questions" References: <001f01c2ebc5$b67c7690$85cd07c4@d> <3E74B1B3.1080306@potentialtech.com> <006701c2ebe8$359a2630$f4cd07c4@d> <200303161441.47888.tcornpropst@cox.net> Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:16:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :)) down in South Africa it is still very expensive to have broadband, although it is cheaper in the long run but the installation costs are horrible and a lot of businesses are still reluctant to get it :)) it will take sometime. back to the *problem* in hosts I have all my internal machines' IP's and my loopback. all is fine I can ping any machine on the LAN and all LAN machines can ping me without ppp dialing out. in resolv.conf I have nameservers 127.0.0.1 hm, I am thinking I will just switch off named and tell squid to use the ISP's DNS. I don't really need a DNS for a 5 PC LAN even just DNS forwarding. BUT I will try your way as well and let you know what happens. thanx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor S. Cornpropst" To: "DJ Boris" Cc: "freebsd-questions" Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 9:41 PM Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup > On Sunday 16 March 2003 13:16, DJ Boris wrote: > > I have supress-initial-notify set to yes as well... no change. > > my DNS forwarders do require a dial out to reach but I don't see why this > > should happen when I start up named. > > Up until now I was using a Windows NT4 server and I had a programme called > > WinRoutePro http://www.infoware.be/en/winroute/index.htm. I was using its > > DNS forwarder, its proxy server and its mail server to download mail from > > one ISP account with 5 alised email addresses and then users could collect > > it from the NT4 machine using a POP3 client. > > now I am trying to do all this with a freeBSD box. none of this was > > happening on the NT4 machine with WinRoutePro and that is why I am > > confused. I do want DNS forwarding to trigger DNS requests but why is it > > happening when I start named. I don't shutdown my DNS server often. this is > > just one little thing that is very annoying and I thought it was something > > small that I was missing. > > > > the reason that I start named manually and not from rc.conf is because if I > > put it in rc.conf the machine hangs at startup and I have to do Crtl-C in > > otder to get to the login prompt. when I disable it in rc.conf everything > > is OK... I presume is it because named tries to dial as soon as it starts > > when the machine hasn't started all its services.... (I might be wrong > > about this one) so this is a workaround. or may be it is something else > > ?!?!? > > Apologies, I didn't understand your problem in the first reply. You are > correct "dialup yes" in your named.conf is not going to help as you are only > runnlng a caching server, so you won't need to do zone transfers. > > I'm thinking your named is trying to sort some things out when it starts, > hence the hang. Do you have anything in /etc/hosts or /etc/resolv.conf? BB > (before broadband) I used to run a similar configuration but I always defined > an internal zone for my network and never experienced this type of hang. > Other than that, my config was always straight forward. (i.e. set up my > internal zone, forward all other requests to my ISP) > > Trevor Cornpropst > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 12:36: 3 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C28B37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:36:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30C443FA3 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:36:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.7/8.12.7) id h2GKZscK050972; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:35:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:35:54 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Olivier Dony Cc: Bill Moran , Simon Barner , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Too many collisions on network? Message-ID: <20030316203554.GC64222@dan.emsphone.com> References: <005d01c2ebcb$82b343b0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> <20030316152335.GA1434@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> <002201c2ebd3$92d0a7d0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> <3E74B8BC.4030009@potentialtech.com> <025601c2ebf5$5abc25f0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <025601c2ebf5$5abc25f0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Mar 16), Olivier Dony said: > o On the server I was talking about earlier, here is an excerpt of > netstat while switching from half to full-duplex and back : > > input (Total) output > packets errs bytes packets errs bytes colls > 900 0 141953 1261 0 1351094 633 > -> going full-duplex... here I guess > 462 12 61552 546 0 649187 0 > -> back to half-duplex with autoselect .. looks like here > 815 0 150286 1128 0 1841082 749 > > The input errors and other numbers were consistent during the few > minutes of testing in all 3 cases, but I cut it to a few lines for > the sake of the mailing-list. Is this increase in input errors and > drop in bytes throughput a problem? I guess the input errors are not > good, when we can see that there are Input errors probably means that whatever you're plugged into does not support full-duplex (i.e. it's a hub), which is why autoselect selected half-duplex. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 12:37: 2 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4EC37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:37:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from vms3.rit.edu (vms3.isc.rit.edu [129.21.3.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0669A43FBF for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:37:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bjm1287@ritvax.isc.rit.edu) Received: from garfield ([129.21.129.47]) by ritvax.isc.rit.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #30660) with ESMTPA id <01KTLIKNQE2YV910DG@ritvax.isc.rit.edu> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:36:51 EST Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:38:48 -0500 From: Brian McCann Subject: /usr/src on a dedicated drive? To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <000201c2ebfc$0c0f2400$2f811581@garfield> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey all. I've got a problem on one of my systems (lack of drive space) that forced me to remove /usr/src. However, I like that system to track the STABLE version. I don't think it'd be a problem, but I'd like someone else to confirm this. Would there be any problems if I put /usr/src on it's own disk? Thanks, --Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 12:38:30 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3BA37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (pa-plum1b-122.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.161.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D5543FD7 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:38:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com (working [172.16.0.95]) by pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h2GKcGTb010391; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:38:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Message-ID: <3E74E09E.8050203@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:37:50 -0500 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030301 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Dony Cc: Simon Barner , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too many collisions on network? References: <005d01c2ebcb$82b343b0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> <20030316152335.GA1434@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> <002201c2ebd3$92d0a7d0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> <3E74B8BC.4030009@potentialtech.com> <025601c2ebf5$5abc25f0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> In-Reply-To: <025601c2ebf5$5abc25f0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Olivier Dony wrote: > On Sunday, 16 March, 2003 18:47, Bill Moran wrote: >>Going to full-duplex should reduce collisions to 0, and give you the max >>performance available. I just did some experimenting with turning duplex >>from half to full and back on my computer here, and if there's any interruption, >>it was less than I could easily measure. Don't know if that'll be the same >>with all switches or not. > > Well after doing some poking around on other servers first, I did change the > mode and happily that didn't interrupt the connection. Also the collisions > did drop to 0 on all 3 servers where I tried it, with a small difference : > o On the other 2 servers I changed from autoselect 10BaseT/UTP h-d > (resp. 100BaseTX/UTP) to 10BaseT/UTP full-duplex (resp. 100BaseTX/UTP f-d), > and collisions dropped to 0, nothing else seems to have changed, still no > i/o errors, and no change in the bytes throughput. > o On the server I was talking about earlier, here is an excerpt of netstat > while switching from half to full-duplex and back : > > input (Total) output > packets errs bytes packets errs bytes colls > 900 0 141953 1261 0 1351094 633 > 938 0 163593 1048 0 1157276 543 > 782 0 126538 938 0 1090243 414 > 771 0 124376 987 0 1217638 493 > 894 0 161036 1059 0 1111060 573 > 913 0 123942 1092 0 1028476 562 > -> going full-duplex... here I guess > 601 11 72155 695 0 569992 132 > 461 8 61467 566 0 560226 0 > 462 12 61552 546 0 649187 0 > 477 6 72589 555 0 649629 0 > 517 13 79602 624 0 668592 0 > -> back to half-duplex with autoselect .. looks like here > 0 0 42814 0 0 500765 0 > 815 0 150286 1128 0 1841082 749 > 1062 0 176522 1478 0 2051510 554 > > The input errors and other numbers were consistent during the few minutes of > testing in all 3 cases, but I cut it to a few lines for the sake of the > mailing-list. Is this increase in input errors and drop in bytes throughput a > problem? I guess the input errors are not good, when we can see that there are > no real erroneous packets coming in before. As for the change in throughput > while the server load stayed constant, it doesn't look good either, and I didn't > notice the same behaviour on the 2 others. Those don't have the same load though. > > Any ideas? And thanks again, I've learned a lot so far with your kind help :-) Off the top of my head I would worry about wiring faults, or a switch with a bad port, or possibly a buggy NIC. Collisions are normal on half-duplex networks, and errors are normal on all networks, but not at the levels you're reporting. I can't think of where else to look but a hardware issue at this point, but I could be wrong. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 12:39: 7 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D9337B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:39:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from vms4.rit.edu (vms4.isc.rit.edu [129.21.3.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D699943FBF for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:38:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bjm1287@ritvax.isc.rit.edu) Received: from garfield ([129.21.129.47]) by ritvax.isc.rit.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #30660) with ESMTPA id <01KTLIN59N8EV91JCL@ritvax.isc.rit.edu> for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:38:51 EST Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:40:48 -0500 From: Brian McCann Subject: RE: Intelligent Bandwidth Limiter? In-reply-to: <037801c2ebeb$38b7d990$0401a8c0@duronica> To: 'Tino Didriksen' , questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <000301c2ebfc$53c09090$2f811581@garfield> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I may be off, but look into dummynet. One of my friends told me that he is playing with it to do something similar. However, the bandwidth limit would probably be constant unless you wrote some fairly creative scripts :) . Hope I helped, --Brian -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Tino Didriksen Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 1:38 PM To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Intelligent Bandwidth Limiter? (trying this again, since it didn't appear last time I sent it...) I have a dedicated server with 500GB monthly transfer limit, and I don't want to cross that limit. So, I want to impose an artificial maximum bandwidth, yet not until a certain threshold has been reached. Example: I have 500GB total max monthly transfer. I want a 400GB threshold before the limiter kicks in, which will impose a byte/second limit for the remaining 100GB, so that it never goes over 500GB for the month. But, from when the limiter has started till the end of the month, it should recalculate remaining GB every half hour and adjust the byte/second limit accordingly, since peak/idle hours are so varied. Reasoning: I don't want a simple flat byte/second limit for the whole 500GB/month, since that would be 202 kilobyte/second ((500*1024*1024*1024) / (60*60*24*30)), but peak and idle varies more than that. Realisticly, I doubt I'll even pass 100GB/month, but better safe than sorry... Anyways, this should be on an interface level (as in running on the same computer), not an external proxy. -- Tino Didriksen / Project JJ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 12:40:40 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5CB37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (pa-plum1b-122.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.161.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D6343F75 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:40:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com (working [172.16.0.95]) by pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h2GKeTTb010394; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:40:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Message-ID: <3E74E123.1080504@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:40:03 -0500 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030301 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson Cc: Olivier Dony , Simon Barner , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Too many collisions on network? References: <005d01c2ebcb$82b343b0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> <20030316152335.GA1434@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> <002201c2ebd3$92d0a7d0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> <3E74B8BC.4030009@potentialtech.com> <025601c2ebf5$5abc25f0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> <20030316203554.GC64222@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20030316203554.GC64222@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Mar 16), Olivier Dony said: > >>o On the server I was talking about earlier, here is an excerpt of >> netstat while switching from half to full-duplex and back : >> >> input (Total) output >> packets errs bytes packets errs bytes colls >> 900 0 141953 1261 0 1351094 633 >> -> going full-duplex... here I guess >> 462 12 61552 546 0 649187 0 >> -> back to half-duplex with autoselect .. looks like here >> 815 0 150286 1128 0 1841082 749 >> >>The input errors and other numbers were consistent during the few >>minutes of testing in all 3 cases, but I cut it to a few lines for >>the sake of the mailing-list. Is this increase in input errors and >>drop in bytes throughput a problem? I guess the input errors are not >>good, when we can see that there are > > Input errors probably means that whatever you're plugged into does not > support full-duplex (i.e. it's a hub), which is why autoselect selected > half-duplex. You know, now that he brings this up, I tend to agree. It's possible that the hub you're plugging into is saturated: that will result in high collision rates and poor performance. You won't get anything better because that's the best the hub can do. If I'm right on this guess, you need to take it up with your ISP, as it's something they need to address. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 12:54:42 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E83E37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:54:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05DB43F75 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:54:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from apeiron@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (pcp01380957pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net [68.81.162.166]) by mtaout01.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HBV004R60R3PI@mtaout01.icomcast.net> for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:54:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:54:50 -0500 From: Christopher Nehren Subject: PDL 2.3.4 marked as broken but builds without problem To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <1047848089.83637.0.camel@prophecy> Organization: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-b7oSsjK+OZTLfOzTrHni"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=-b7oSsjK+OZTLfOzTrHni Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I went to build p5-Gimp on my system and it pulled in PDL as a dependency. It failed, saying that the port was broken and didn't compile. Curious, I downloaded the distfile from ftp2.freebsd.org and extracted it to my ~ and built it on my own, without any patches (or errors). I'm not exactly sure of any relevant information which enabled my build to succeed, but I'll provide anything that I can. --=-b7oSsjK+OZTLfOzTrHni Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+dOSZUdqurN0fljsRAm11AKCPr4K7BKi5/PQacSBx1sUA2eypWQCfYPbC TD8rNoGZpI9FJJJrLMDEonQ= =CC+/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-b7oSsjK+OZTLfOzTrHni-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 13: 9:59 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6F637B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:09:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from chimera.noanet.net (chimera.noanet.net [66.119.192.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DAFB43F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:09:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mksmith@noanet.net) Received: from mkssony (dsl081-001-094.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.1.94]) by chimera.noanet.net (8.12.8/8.12.2) with SMTP id h2GL9v8t062425; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:09:57 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: From: "Michael K. Smith" To: "'wease'" Cc: Subject: RE: syslogd_flags for multiple allowed peers Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:09:54 -0800 Organization: NoaNet Message-ID: <000001c2ec00$64b76190$5e015140@mkssony> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <000001c2eb94$91b1a1e0$8d00000a@thinknova.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Thanks for your tip Mike. Why it wouldn't work without the > service is beyond me but it seemed to do the trick. Thanks again. > > Keith > Hey: I think the issue is, if you are going to set the -a flag, you have to have the syntax correct. In the case of this flag, it requires the service be set as well as the IP and subnet. Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 13:24: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36BD337B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:24:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from westhost42.westhost.net (westhost42.westhost.net [216.71.84.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3759343F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:24:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from burningclown@burningclown.com) Received: from localhost (burningclown@localhost) by westhost42.westhost.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2GLO5r16086; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:24:05 -0600 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:24:05 -0600 (CST) From: burningclown@burningclown.com X-X-Sender: burningclown@westhost42.westhost.net To: Christopher Nehren Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PDL 2.3.4 marked as broken but builds without problem In-Reply-To: <1047848089.83637.0.camel@prophecy> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I went to build p5-Gimp on my system and it pulled in PDL as a > dependency. It failed, saying that the port was broken and didn't > compile. Curious, I downloaded the distfile from ftp2.freebsd.org and > extracted it to my ~ and built it on my own, without any patches (or > errors). I'm not exactly sure of any relevant information which enabled > my build to succeed, but I'll provide anything that I can. > Christopher - Anything you cd provide would be great - I tried to build PDL via the port today and it plotzed almost immediately. Was going to try to build it via CPAN but haven't gotten around to that yet :) Thanks, Glenn Becker +---------------------+ This is not a signature +---------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 13:39:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B7737B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:39:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.dubium.com (h24-78-226-8.vn.shawcable.net [24.78.226.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A8E43F75 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:39:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@dubium.com) Received: (qmail 99571 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 21:41:26 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO dubium.com) ([127.0.0.1]) (envelope-sender ) by 0 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Mar 2003 21:41:26 -0000 Received: from 192.168.0.1 (SquirrelMail authenticated user joe@dubium.com) by sigfried with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:41:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1075.192.168.0.1.1047850886.squirrel@sigfried> In-Reply-To: <200303161208.54406.kstewart@owt.com> References: <1168.192.168.0.1.1047830835.squirrel@sigfried> <200303161208.54406.kstewart@owt.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:41:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: latest stable branch upgrade fails - solved From: "Joe Sotham" To: "Kent Stewart" , "taxman" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 RC2a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kent Stewart said: > > I kind of wonder if you have some old code left over in /usr/obj. If you > clean it up and it still dies, change your cvsup mirror. There is > something different on your system. > I cleaned out the obj subdirectories and everything built properly. Thanks, -- Joe Sotham ------------ If the only prayer you say in your entire life is "Thank You", that will suffice. - Meister Eckhart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 13:43:58 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DABCB37B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:43:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from prophecy.dyndns.org (pcp01380957pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net [68.81.162.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4694443FCB for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:43:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from apeiron@comcast.net) Received: from prophecy.dyndns.org (apeiron@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prophecy.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2GLi3Nq090019; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:44:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from apeiron@comcast.net) Received: (from apeiron@localhost) by prophecy.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h2GLi2ZY090018; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:44:02 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: prophecy.dyndns.org: apeiron set sender to apeiron@comcast.net using -f Subject: Re: PDL 2.3.4 marked as broken but builds without problem From: Christopher Nehren To: burningclown@burningclown.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Ak4XG2+UQobka3gRD/Sk" Organization: Message-Id: <1047851041.83637.12.camel@prophecy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 Date: 16 Mar 2003 16:44:02 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=-Ak4XG2+UQobka3gRD/Sk Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 16:24, burningclown@burningclown.com wrote: > Anything you cd provide would be great - I tried to build PDL via the por= t today=20 > and it plotzed almost immediately. Was going to try to build it via CPAN = but=20 > haven't gotten around to that yet :) Okay, first off my uname -a is: FreeBSD prophecy.dyndns.org 5.0-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE-p4 #0: Tue Mar 11 15:31:41 EST 2003 =20 apeiron@prophecy:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PROPHECY i386 Some information on the dates of my ports tree: % ll /usr/ports/math/PDL /usr/ports/INDEX* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3194316 Feb 8 08:18 /usr/ports/INDEX -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3326343 Feb 9 01:31 /usr/ports/INDEX-5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7236608 Mar 16 13:10 /usr/ports/INDEX.db /usr/ports/math/PDL: total 12 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2453 Feb 20 13:42 Makefile -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 58 Sep 25 00:03 distinfo drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Mar 15 15:18 files -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 786 Aug 22 2000 pkg-descr -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 11 Sep 25 00:03 pkg-plist I'm not really sure what else to provide. I'd attach `pkg_info`, but I'd rather not attach 26 kilobytes of text without permission first. One thing, though: did you attempt to build yours out of the ports tree? I built mine by getting the distfile from a FreeBSD FTP site, untarring it, and doing the standard make and such. If you showed me the errors which you've received, I could look at the relevant information on my system and perhaps devise a fix (or at least discern what allowed my build to succeed).=20 --=-Ak4XG2+UQobka3gRD/Sk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+dPAhUdqurN0fljsRAr6ZAKCTppIbE1ASaXG1SYuTea2eTkaezwCeP4zp HDulEaUnP8/aRBvWjdc7HpQ= =m9rx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Ak4XG2+UQobka3gRD/Sk-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 13:54:53 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D515F37B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:54:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from server2.fastmail.fm (ny2.fastmail.fm [66.111.4.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B2943F85 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:54:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) by fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1714FEAB; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:54:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1] helo=www.fastmail.fm) by fastmail.fm with SMTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:54:46 -0500 X-Epoch: 1047851686 X-Sasl-enc: ntEtXouGIsd6U9ZhikkXfQ Received: from sparky (dialup-67.28.74.14.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net [67.28.74.14]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E86135F9; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:54:43 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Reynolds , dick hoogendijk , Dirk-Willem van Gulik Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: MBR screwed up References: <20030316153125.BD4A448463@wastegate.net> Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed From: Jud Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:54:48 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20030316153125.BD4A448463@wastegate.net> User-Agent: Opera7.03/Win32 M2 build 2670 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:30:02 -0500, Doug Reynolds wrote: > On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:29:26 +0100 (CET), Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > >> On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, dick hoogendijk wrote: >> >>> master drive, but what do I do to get rid of the old fbsd loader on the >>> second and get a good windows-xp one? >> >> On older windozes one would boot from floppy and do a >> >> format.exe c: /mbr > > I don't know if that will do it. I've always used 'fdisk /mbr'. afaik, > you can only put a mbr on drive 0 Changing boot order in the bios will make whatever drive you like "drive 0" (or at any rate the first hard drive), I think. If you boot with the WinXP installer disk and choose to repair manually, you can get a list of repair commands (don't remember how, precisely - type "help," perhaps?), among which are a couple of relevant ones that allow you to put a "WinXP" MBR on the drive. Jud To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 14: 3:23 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01B937B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:03:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B0843F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:03:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mbsd@pacbell.net) Received: from atlas ([64.160.45.231]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.6 (built Oct 18 2002)) with ESMTP id <0HBV005MO3XLZ5@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:03:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:03:21 -0800 (PST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mikko_Ty=F6l=E4j=E4rvi?= Subject: Re: /usr/src on a dedicated drive? In-reply-to: <000201c2ebfc$0c0f2400$2f811581@garfield> X-X-Sender: mikko@atlas.home To: Brian McCann Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20030316140240.E6008-100000@atlas.home> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Brian McCann wrote: > Hey all. I've got a problem on one of my systems (lack of drive > space) that forced me to remove /usr/src. However, I like that system > to track the STABLE version. I don't think it'd be a problem, but I'd > like someone else to confirm this. Would there be any problems if I put > /usr/src on it's own disk? No. :-) /Mikko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 14:33:35 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD2437B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:33:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from naboo.blacktrap.net (212.68.218.22.brutele.be [212.68.218.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A6543F85 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:33:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from odony@student.info.ucl.ac.be) Received: from arkania (arkania [192.168.2.21]) by naboo.blacktrap.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id h2GMaSLc005699; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:36:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from odony@student.info.ucl.ac.be) Message-ID: <02d101c2ec0c$0ddf0ec0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> Reply-To: "Olivier Dony" From: "Olivier Dony" To: "Bill Moran" Cc: "Dan Nelson" , "Simon Barner" , References: <005d01c2ebcb$82b343b0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> <20030316152335.GA1434@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> <002201c2ebd3$92d0a7d0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> <3E74B8BC.4030009@potentialtech.com> <025601c2ebf5$5abc25f0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> <20030316203554.GC64222@dan.emsphone.com> <3E74E123.1080504@potentialtech.com> Subject: Re: Too many collisions on network? Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:33:04 +0100 Organization: UCL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 16 March, 2003 21:40, Bill Moran wrote: > Dan Nelson wrote: > > Input errors probably means that whatever you're plugged into does not > > support full-duplex (i.e. it's a hub), which is why autoselect selected > > half-duplex. > > You know, now that he brings this up, I tend to agree. > It's possible that the hub you're plugging into is saturated: that will > result in high collision rates and poor performance. You won't get > anything better because that's the best the hub can do. > If I'm right on this guess, you need to take it up with your ISP, as it's > something they need to address. Ok I left this one in autoselect for now, and will contact my ISP tomorrow, and try and ask them to find solution for this high collision number problem... Thanks a lot everybody who answered :) Olivier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 14:37:45 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAC337B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:37:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lakemtao04.cox.net (lakemtao04.cox.net [68.1.17.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2706343F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:37:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tcornpropst@cox.net) Received: from beastie.cornpropst.net ([68.100.175.64]) by lakemtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030316223742.RPLL22825.lakemtao04.cox.net@beastie.cornpropst.net>; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:37:42 -0500 From: "Trevor S. Cornpropst" Reply-To: tcornpropst@acm.org To: "DJ Boris" Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:37:39 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions" References: <001f01c2ebc5$b67c7690$85cd07c4@d> <200303161441.47888.tcornpropst@cox.net> <001801c2ebf8$fd243320$f4cd07c4@d> In-Reply-To: <001801c2ebf8$fd243320$f4cd07c4@d> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303161737.39306.tcornpropst@cox.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 16 March 2003 15:16, DJ Boris wrote: > :)) down in South Africa it is still very expensive to have broadband, > > although it is cheaper in the long run but the installation costs are > horrible and a lot of businesses are still reluctant to get it :)) it will > take sometime. > > back to the *problem* > in hosts I have all my internal machines' IP's and my loopback. all is fine > I can ping any machine on the LAN and all LAN machines can ping me without > ppp dialing out. in resolv.conf I have nameservers 127.0.0.1 > > hm, I am thinking I will just switch off named and tell squid to use the > ISP's DNS. I don't really need a DNS for a 5 PC LAN even just DNS > forwarding. > > BUT I will try your way as well and let you know what happens. > Ok, put the ip address of the host you are running BIND on in /etc/resolv.conf instead of 127.0.0.1. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 15:16: 2 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E6437B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:16:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.leasat.net (relay.leasat.net [193.220.136.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023DE43FCB for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:15:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@villi.leasat.net) Received: from villi.leasat.net (flux.leasat.net [193.220.136.21]) by relay.leasat.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2GNFowR020264 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 01:15:54 +0200 (EET) Received: from villi.leasat.net (localhost.villi.leasat.net [127.0.0.1]) by villi.leasat.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2H1G63f034322 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 01:16:06 GMT Received: (from root@localhost) by villi.leasat.net (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h2H1G5Zn034321 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 01:16:05 GMT Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 01:16:05 GMT From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <200303170116.h2H1G5Zn034321@villi.leasat.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: CVSUPing to 4.8-RC2 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What tag=RELENG_4_8_0_RC2 use in my cvsup flle to update release?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 15:16: 3 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A08837B405 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:16:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.leasat.net (relay.leasat.net [193.220.136.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD6643FBF for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:15:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@villi.leasat.net) Received: from villi.leasat.net (flux.leasat.net [193.220.136.21]) by relay.leasat.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2GNFtwR020268 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 01:15:55 +0200 (EET) Received: from villi.leasat.net (localhost.villi.leasat.net [127.0.0.1]) by villi.leasat.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2H1GA3f034328 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 01:16:11 GMT Received: (from root@localhost) by villi.leasat.net (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h2H1GAN9034327 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 01:16:10 GMT Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 01:16:10 GMT From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <200303170116.h2H1GAN9034327@villi.leasat.net> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: CVSUPing to 4.8-RC2 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What tag=RELENG_4_8_0_RC2 use in my cvsup flle to update release?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 15:19:12 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4150137B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:19:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.leasat.net (relay.leasat.net [193.220.136.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D6843FB1 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:19:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from villi@relay.leasat.net) Received: from relay.leasat.net (localhost.leasat.net [127.0.0.1]) by relay.leasat.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2GNJ4wR020418 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 01:19:05 +0200 (EET) Received: (from villi@localhost) by relay.leasat.net (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h2GNJ4IP020417 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 01:19:04 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 01:19:04 +0200 (EET) From: villi Message-Id: <200303162319.h2GNJ4IP020417@relay.leasat.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: CVSUPing to 4.8-RC2 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What tag=RELENG_4_8_0_RC2 use in my cvsup flleto update release?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 15:19:22 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C2637B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.leasat.net (relay.leasat.net [193.220.136.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D2443FD7 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:19:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from villi@relay.leasat.net) Received: from relay.leasat.net (localhost.leasat.net [127.0.0.1]) by relay.leasat.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2GNJEwR020425 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 01:19:14 +0200 (EET) Received: (from villi@localhost) by relay.leasat.net (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h2GNJDu1020424 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 01:19:13 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 01:19:13 +0200 (EET) From: villi Message-Id: <200303162319.h2GNJDu1020424@relay.leasat.net> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: CVSUPing to 4.8-RC2 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What tag=RELENG_4_8_0_RC2 use in my cvsup flleto update release?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 15:56:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FAAB37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:56:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (bay3-f25.bay3.hotmail.com [65.54.169.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E22143FB1 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:56:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from creamycoffee@msn.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:56:20 -0800 Received: from 65.142.64.141 by by3fd.bay3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:56:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.142.64.141] From: "KAROLYN LEWIS" To: Questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:56:20 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2003 23:56:20.0337 (UTC) FILETIME=[A4389610:01C2EC17] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG MY question is: Can you give me a step by step instruction on how to download the unix program to my "d" drive. I am running W'ME on a Pentinum III, 500MHz system. I have two hdd.the second one being my 'd' drive which is a scsi and very bare. I have printed out your instructions but I am stuck on the "arch and version". Where do I obtain this information. Any an all help you can provide will be most appreciated. Thanks much in advance!! creamycoffee@msn.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 15:57:25 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E6937B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:57:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FCD43F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:57:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 769C751A58; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:27:17 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:27:17 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Toomas Aas Cc: Malcolm Kay , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vinum based system Message-ID: <20030316235717.GI92716@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200303151623.03287.Malcolm.Kay@internode.on.net> <200303161820.h2GIKvU24279@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gTY1JhLGodeuSBqf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200303161820.h2GIKvU24279@lv.raad.tartu.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --gTY1JhLGodeuSBqf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 16 March 2003 at 20:20:19 +0200, Toomas Aas wrote: >> 2)To what extent can the system be fully mirrored? Without RAID hardware it >> seems to me that a conventional disk partition outside the mirrored volume is >> probably necessary for mounting / ; is this true? > > Yes. No, for some definition of "no". See my prior reply on this thread. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers --gTY1JhLGodeuSBqf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+dQ9dIubykFB6QiMRAnXFAKCXBLDyyUz37Z2PY/8xFg7H8XcY1ACePkez zZx9048IlwOgL+pB2djXc48= =rfw0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gTY1JhLGodeuSBqf-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 16:14:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C273E37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:14:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from out005.verizon.net (out005pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C9E43F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:14:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mij@soupnazi.org) Received: from envy.homeunix.com ([4.47.73.167]) by out005.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030317001422.LMCA6910.out005.verizon.net@envy.homeunix.com>; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:14:22 -0600 Received: from soupnazi.org (lust [192.168.1.2]) by envy.homeunix.com (8.12.8/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h2H0EJRn048372; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:14:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mij@soupnazi.org) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:14:13 -0800 Subject: Re: CVSUPing to 4.8-RC2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Cc: questions@freebsd.org To: villi From: Jim Mock In-Reply-To: <200303162319.h2GNJDu1020424@relay.leasat.net> Message-Id: <624E71E6-580D-11D7-9245-000393460DB2@soupnazi.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out005.verizon.net from [4.47.73.167] at Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:14:21 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 03:19 PM, villi wrote: > What tag=RELENG_4_8_0_RC2 use in my cvsup flleto update release?? You are incredibly confused. Please see the FAQ and the handbook. - jim -- - jim mock. email: mij@soupnazi.org web: http://soupnazi.org - - freebsd project: jim@FreeBSD.org opendarwin: mij@opendarwin.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 16:25: 3 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A710837B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:25:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85F843F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:24:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D70D51A58; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:54:57 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:54:57 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Ian Barnes Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Openoffice build error Message-ID: <20030317002456.GD4895@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200303162128.42536.ian@cerebellum.za.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+KJYzRxRHjYqLGl5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200303162128.42536.ian@cerebellum.za.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --+KJYzRxRHjYqLGl5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 16 March 2003 at 21:28:42 +0200, Ian Barnes wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to build the latest version of openoffice (cvsupped earlier). I > get this error bellow, i am runing a 5.0 Rel system with X4, and KDE 3.1 > > > ===> Extracting for mozilla-1.0.2_1 >>> Checksum mismatch for mozilla-source-1.0.2.tar.bz2. > Make sure the Makefile and distinfo file > (/usr/ports/editors/openoffice/work/mozilla/distinfo) > are up to date. If you are absolutely sure you want to override this > check, type "make NO_CHECKSUM=yes [other args]". > *** Error code 1 What does the file look like? Is it valid? Is it complete? Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers --+KJYzRxRHjYqLGl5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQE+dRXYIubykFB6QiMRAmgYAJdwCEmj86NAeJHLY96fnoX2nuK0AJ9pG6Ar TRFHFGM93O2girth+gsNDQ== =SgLz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+KJYzRxRHjYqLGl5-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 16:52:52 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E566F37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:52:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.acd.net (smtp.acd.net [207.179.102.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6FAC43F85 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:52:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from taxman@ACD.NET) Received: from 207.179.99.12 ([207.179.99.12]) by smtp.acd.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:52:38 -0500 From: taxman To: Charlie Root , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSUPing to 4.8-RC2 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:56:00 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200303170116.h2H1G5Zn034321@villi.leasat.net> In-Reply-To: <200303170116.h2H1G5Zn034321@villi.leasat.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303161956.00576.taxman@acd.net> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2003 00:52:38.0543 (UTC) FILETIME=[81C9E9F0:01C2EC1F] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 16 March 2003 08:16 pm, Charlie Root wrote: > What tag=RELENG_4_8_0_RC2 use in my cvsup flle to update release?? Once is enough. Four times is bordering on abuse. You haven't said what you want to do so read for yourself: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html you'll find there is no tag for a release candidate so 4-stable is what you may be looking for. Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 16:56:40 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E86037B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:56:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from vms1.rit.edu (vms1.isc.rit.edu [129.21.3.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F1343FAF for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:56:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bjm1287@ritvax.isc.rit.edu) Received: from garfield ([129.21.129.47]) by ritvax.isc.rit.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #30660) with ESMTPA id <01KTLRMJRLDAV1LM8U@ritvax.isc.rit.edu> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:56:28 EST Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:58:25 -0500 From: Brian McCann Subject: Dirty shutdown and I'm now stuck To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <000001c2ec20$50aa6c90$2f811581@garfield> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok...I just had a system crash that I was working on. When coming back up, I got an error that says it cannot read a block on the disk, and to run fsck manually. When I run "fsck -f /dev/adwhatever" it just says the same thing, listing the blocks it can't read, asks "Continue [yn]", and no matter what I choose, I still can't mount it. Anyone have any ides on how to fix this? Thanks, --Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 16:56:51 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F6037B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:56:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (pa-plum1b-122.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.161.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41C843FB1 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:56:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com (working [172.16.0.95]) by pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h2H0ulTb010501; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:56:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Message-ID: <3E751D37.70403@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:56:23 -0500 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030301 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KAROLYN LEWIS Cc: Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD (was: no subject) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [You're more likely to get answers if you use a subject line] KAROLYN LEWIS wrote: > MY question is: Can you give me a step by step instruction on how to > download the unix program to my "d" drive. I am running W'ME on a Pentinum > III, 500MHz system. I have two hdd.the second one being my 'd' drive which > is a scsi and very bare. I have printed out your instructions but I am > stuck on the "arch and version". Where do I obtain this information. Any > an all help you can provide will be most appreciated. Thanks much in > advance!! First off, you appear to be fairly new to FreeBSD. FreeBSD is not a "unix program" per-se. Think of it more as an alternative to Windows ME and you've got the right idea. Thus, you could theoretically replace Windows ME with FreeBSD. Being as you're new, I wouldn't recommend that you do that just yet. First, install both Windows & FreeBSD so they can coexist. You can run either of them, just not both at the same time. Is this the section that you had read?: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.html If not, read it very carefully. The whole thing. Pay special attention to the section that says "back up your data" because it's very easy to destroy your Windows installation if you've never done this before. If you get stuck, please give a more detailed explanation of where you're stuck. I could not figure out where the "arch and version" section is that you're talking about. Also: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org is a mailing list that thousands of people are involved in. When you reply to this message, use the "reply all" button on your mail program, and you'll reply both to the list as well as to me. That way someone else can answer your question if I'm not available. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 17: 1: 9 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DC337B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.acd.net (smtp.acd.net [207.179.102.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5BA43FB1 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:01:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from taxman@ACD.NET) Received: from 207.179.99.12 ([207.179.99.12]) by smtp.acd.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:00:55 -0500 From: taxman To: "KAROLYN LEWIS" , Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:04:18 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303162004.18174.taxman@acd.net> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2003 01:00:56.0262 (UTC) FILETIME=[AA73CE60:01C2EC20] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 16 March 2003 06:56 pm, KAROLYN LEWIS wrote: > MY question is: Can you give me a step by step instruction on how to > download the unix program to my "d" drive. I am running W'ME on a Pentinum > III, 500MHz system. I have two hdd.the second one being my 'd' drive which > is a scsi and very bare. I have printed out your instructions but I am wel make sure there really is nothing on that drive if you want to install to it. It will be easiest for you if you just install to the whole drive. Dont choos dangerously dedicated. When you see the list of drives to install to, it should be the second one. Make sure you have all the data on both drives backed up because if you choose some wrong options you really could wipe a lot out. > stuck on the "arch and version". Where do I obtain this information. Any Well a pentium is an i386 architecture and you probably want 4.7 release for now. The instructions really are in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html so if you have more questions you may want to try to describe your problem a little more clearly and show what section in the install instructions is confusing you. Good luck, Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 17: 1:45 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA3937B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:01:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from himinbjorg.ttsg.com (bgp487725bgs.summit01.nj.comcast.net [68.37.187.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81FF4401E for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:01:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tuc@himinbjorg.ttsg.com) Received: (from tuc@localhost) by himinbjorg.ttsg.com (8.12.8/8.12.6) id h2H0scsX007826 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:54:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tuc) From: Tuc Message-Id: <200303170054.h2H0scsX007826@himinbjorg.ttsg.com> Subject: System instability To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:54:38 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Over the last month, my system has seemed very unstable. At first I thought it was just the result of issues with X after the system lost power mid install. Now it seems its just getting worse and worse. I've cvsupd' up to yesterday morning. But I now see more and more .core's being generated, and even saw : /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/libexec/uucp/uucico: Shared object has no run-time symbol table when I tried to get a uucp session going. I did get it one or two other times on other programs. Where do I start? I'm getting frustrated enough to re-install, but this only was installed 2 months ago. Thanks, Tuc/TTSG Internet Services, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 17:16: 2 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B3437B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:16:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8737C43F93 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:16:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jacobsm@gate.net) Received: from sdn-ap-014scfairp0218.dialsprint.net ([63.183.136.218] helo=primary) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18ujEM-0002Vx-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:15:59 -0500 From: "Mark Jacobs" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:16:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Serial ATA support in FreeBSD Message-ID: <3E74DB85.30328.E78160@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Received no responses the first time, so am trying again. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am in the process of building a new system and was looking at using the new Seagate Barracuda Serial ATA drives. Does FreeBSD 4.x, or 5.x support SATA? Mark Jacobs To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 17:19:28 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C2D37B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:19:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ra.dweebsoft.com (ra.dweebsoft.com [209.237.40.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E6743F85 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:19:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daxbert_news@dweebsoft.com) Received: from ra.dweebsoft.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ra.dweebsoft.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2H1JOMc091766; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:19:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daxbert_news@dweebsoft.com) Received: (from http@localhost) by ra.dweebsoft.com (8.12.6/8.12.3/Submit) id h2H1JOtT091765; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:19:24 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: ra.dweebsoft.com: http set sender to daxbert_news@dweebsoft.com using -f Received: from 64.81.58.36 ( [64.81.58.36]) as user daxbert@localhost by ra.dweebsoft.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:19:23 -0800 Message-ID: <1047863963.3e75229be8a29@ra.dweebsoft.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:19:23 -0800 From: Daxbert To: Brian McCann Cc: "" Subject: Re: /usr/src on a dedicated drive? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 64.81.58.36 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Brian McCann : > Hey all. I've got a problem on one of my systems (lack of drive > space) that forced me to remove /usr/src. However, I like that system > to track the STABLE version. I don't think it'd be a problem, but I'd > like someone else to confirm this. Would there be any problems if I put > /usr/src on it's own disk? > I've had no problems, and I NFS mount /usr/src from my network attached storage. --daxbert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 17:34:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E205337B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649A543FB1 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:34:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8065B51A58; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:04:08 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:04:08 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Brian McCann Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dirty shutdown and I'm now stuck Message-ID: <20030317013408.GH4895@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <000001c2ec20$50aa6c90$2f811581@garfield> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0Ed1hDcWxc3B7cn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001c2ec20$50aa6c90$2f811581@garfield> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --y0Ed1hDcWxc3B7cn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 16 March 2003 at 19:58:25 -0500, Brian McCann wrote: > Ok...I just had a system crash that I was working on. When coming back > up, I got an error that says it cannot read a block on the disk, and to > run fsck manually. When I run "fsck -f /dev/adwhatever" it just says > the same thing, listing the blocks it can't read, asks "Continue [yn]", > and no matter what I choose, I still can't mount it. Anyone have any > ides on how to fix this? Looks like it's time to dig out your backups. "Can't read a block" normally means that the disk is dying. You may be able to salvage something by mounting read-only and trying to copy to a new disk. You don't need a clean file system for a read-only mount. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers --y0Ed1hDcWxc3B7cn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+dSYQIubykFB6QiMRAgn6AKCuRq5KTD8goeYrZEfxJvf4tRtNBACfd8ep BqQc26LfGyqso0EzEoWQamM= =vSFL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0Ed1hDcWxc3B7cn-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 17:43:15 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C704637B40C; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930BC43F75; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:43:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from gabby.gsicomp.on.ca ([65.95.176.5]) by tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20030317014305.NAVM22797.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@gabby.gsicomp.on.ca>; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:43:05 -0500 Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by gabby.gsicomp.on.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h2H1e1iG054547; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:40:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <005701c2ec26$67c6a820$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Mark Jacobs" , Cc: References: <3E74DB85.30328.E78160@localhost> Subject: Re: Serial ATA support in FreeBSD Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:42:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Received no responses the first time, so am trying again. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I am in the process of building a new system and was looking at > using the new Seagate Barracuda Serial ATA drives. > Does FreeBSD 4.x, or 5.x support SATA? > Mark Jacobs If FreeBSD can detect the SATA controller, then I imagine it would support it just fine, since the same command set is used on the software side. Are you offering to donate a SATA controller / SATA-equipped motherboard to Soren to make this a reality? -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 17:47:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F180137B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from selene.edesk.co.jp (selene.edesk.co.jp [219.103.146.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1362A43FAF for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:47:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from 1320980djdl@pop3.ru) Received: (qmail 18157 invoked by uid 0); 16 Mar 2003 21:53:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ramiz) (202.214.71.154) by selene.edesk.co.jp with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 21:53:56 -0000 Reply-To: <11303ss@altern.org> From: "Business Study" <1320980djdl@pop3.ru> Subject: Как разработать эффективную рекламную кампанию? 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 18:19: 2 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF8837B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:19:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E779A43F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:18:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from lexx ([62.31.198.203]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 17 Mar 2003 02:18:58 +0000 From: John Murphy To: "Mark Jacobs" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Serial ATA support in FreeBSD Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 02:18:58 +0000 Organization: poor Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: References: <3E74DB85.30328.E78160@localhost> In-Reply-To: <3E74DB85.30328.E78160@localhost> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.9/32.560 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Mark Jacobs" wrote: >Received no responses the first time, so am trying again. >------------------------------------------------------------------------= - >I am in the process of building a new system and was looking at=20 >using the new Seagate Barracuda Serial ATA drives.=20 >Does FreeBSD 4.x, or 5.x support SATA? As I understand it SATA is invisible to the OS, therefore, in theory, any OS would just see the drive[s] as fast UDMA. I'd like to hear what speeds you achieve if you go ahead with the purchase. =46rom http://www.serialata.org/about/index.shtml Will Serial ATA be compatible with today's PCs? Serial ATA electronics and connectors will differ from Parallel ATA, however the technology is software compatible and OS transparent. It is anticipated that there will be adapters to facilitate forward- and backward-compatibility of hard disks on PC systems. John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 18:29:31 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AB837B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:29:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-150.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE5C43F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:29:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C66B66B37; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:29:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2BBFC100F; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:29:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:29:29 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Michael Spector Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: libtool in ports Message-ID: <20030317022929.GB19923@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <20030316151824.T30468-100000@gibraltar.zend.office> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="l76fUT7nc3MelDdI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030316151824.T30468-100000@gibraltar.zend.office> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 03:19:23PM +0200, Michael Spector wrote: >=20 > What's the difference between ports/libtool13 and ports/libtool14 ? >=20 > I just tried to install libtool of version: 1.4.3 .... As you probably found out, libtool14 is not yet complete and is still in the process of being upgraded. It's a very difficult process. Kris --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+dTMIWry0BWjoQKURAiqMAKCbAG2O9nmCveeUMuKPQbWy0HiekgCeNmIY raZJOppFH5JrP9e1blYSWyc= =aqu4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 18:32:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B922137B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:32:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from computer.multihaven.org (rdu57-251-134.nc.rr.com [66.57.251.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25E843F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:32:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeremy@multihaven.org) Received: from engineering.multihaven.org ([192.168.215.2]) by computer.multihaven.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2H2VxuV080601 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:31:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jeremy@multihaven.org) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030316213035.01898a68@computer.multihaven.org> X-Sender: jeremy@computer.multihaven.org (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:32:19 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jer Subject: tcp wrappers/twist Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear all there used to be a way that one could use tcp wrappers and twist so that if per say you telnet'd to 127.0.0.1 telnetd would run but if you telnet'd to 127.0.0.2 tcp_d would spawn another process I forget the syntax for this anyone know it?? thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 18:42:46 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A97E37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:42:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC0743F93 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:42:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from t.zim@att.net) Received: from att.net (234.knoxville-06-07rs.tn.dial-access.att.net[12.93.210.234]) by mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <20030317024243113001n9k0e>; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 02:42:43 +0000 Message-ID: <3E753621.9060608@att.net> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:42:41 -0500 From: Todd Zimmermann User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030213 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usb printers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A little rusty on this but hopefully it will help some. I had a HP 812c running on 4.5 awhile back through usb. Used apsfilter with gimp-print or the HP drivers, but it didn't work the greatest. Could've been a misconfiguration on my part. On redhat 8 on the same comp & printer have had excellent results with CUPS & hpijs. Haven't tried CUPS on bsd 5.0 yet. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 18:45: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0977237B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:45:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ra.dweebsoft.com (ra.dweebsoft.com [209.237.40.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AD243FAF for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:45:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daxbert_news@dweebsoft.com) Received: from ra.dweebsoft.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ra.dweebsoft.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2H2j3Mc095539; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:45:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daxbert_news@dweebsoft.com) Received: (from http@localhost) by ra.dweebsoft.com (8.12.6/8.12.3/Submit) id h2H2j3Oa095538; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:45:03 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: ra.dweebsoft.com: http set sender to daxbert_news@dweebsoft.com using -f Received: from 64.81.58.36 ( [64.81.58.36]) as user daxbert@localhost by ra.dweebsoft.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:45:03 -0800 Message-ID: <1047869103.3e7536af8aaa9@ra.dweebsoft.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:45:03 -0800 From: Daxbert To: Jer Cc: "" Subject: Re: tcp wrappers/twist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 64.81.58.36 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Jer : > there used to be a way that one could use tcp wrappers and twist > so that if per say > > you telnet'd to 127.0.0.1 telnetd would run > but if you telnet'd to 127.0.0.2 tcp_d would spawn another process Have you looked here: man hosts_options look for twist. and man 5 hosts_access for the proper expansion escapes. --daxbert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 19: 5:30 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1B137B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:05:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (pa-plum1b-122.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.161.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B421543F75 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:05:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com (working [172.16.0.95]) by pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h2H35QTb010555; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:05:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Message-ID: <3E753B60.3000702@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:05:04 -0500 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030301 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tuc Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: System instability References: <200303170054.h2H0scsX007826@himinbjorg.ttsg.com> In-Reply-To: <200303170054.h2H0scsX007826@himinbjorg.ttsg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tuc wrote: > Hi, > > Over the last month, my system has seemed very unstable. At first > I thought it was just the result of issues with X after the system lost power > mid install. Now it seems its just getting worse and worse. I've cvsupd' up > to yesterday morning. But I now see more and more .core's being generated, and > even saw : > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/libexec/uucp/uucico: Shared object has no run-time symbol table > > when I tried to get a uucp session going. I did get it one or > two other times on other programs. > > Where do I start? I'm getting frustrated enough to re-install, but > this only was installed 2 months ago. Have you tried tools like memtest and cpuburn to verify the reliability of the hardware? -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 19: 5:40 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8AB37B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:05:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from spork.pantherdragon.org (spork.pantherdragon.org [206.29.168.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBFA43F93 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:05:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dmp@pantherdragon.org) Received: from sparx.techno.pagans (12-224-208-117.client.attbi.com [12.224.208.117]) by spork.pantherdragon.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A62FFE3 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:05:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from speck.techno.pagans (speck.techno.pagans [172.21.42.2]) by sparx.techno.pagans (Postfix) with SMTP id 74A8AABB7 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:05:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:05:31 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Support for STV0602-AA based USB vidcams? Message-Id: <20030316190531.3e09d194.dmp@pantherdragon.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.9claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a Logitech Quickcam Express USB with the STV0602-AA chip. I know it's a piece of crap, but it was a free piece of crap. Is there any support for it? The chip is the typical cheap component put into a lot of cheap electronics meant for Windows. I didn't see a specific USB camera module and searching the archives didn't prove useful. Googling yielded source modifications for Linux' mod_quickcam, so I know it can be done. --- dmp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 19:14:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8572B37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from himinbjorg.ttsg.com (207-237-196-31.c3-0.nyr-ubr3.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com [207.237.196.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555C843F93 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:14:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tuc@himinbjorg.ttsg.com) Received: (from tuc@localhost) by himinbjorg.ttsg.com (8.12.8/8.12.6) id h2H3DfkP001172; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:13:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tuc) From: Tuc Message-Id: <200303170313.h2H3DfkP001172@himinbjorg.ttsg.com> Subject: Re: System instability To: wmoran@potentialtech.com (Bill Moran) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:13:41 -0500 (EST) Cc: tuc@ttsg.com (Tuc), freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3E753B60.3000702@potentialtech.com> from "Bill Moran" at Mar 16, 2003 10:05:04 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Have you tried tools like memtest and cpuburn to verify the reliability > of the hardware? > Yup, for over 24 hours. No issues detected. Ran SETI@HOME on the Winderz side for 4 days, no problems. Tuc/TTSG Internet Services, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 19:25: 5 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DEE37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:25:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from pioneernet.net (mail.pioneernet.net [207.115.64.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D406843F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:25:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chip@wiegand.org) Received: from chipster.wiegand.org [66.114.152.128] by pioneernet.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A03C313500F4; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:25:48 -0800 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:26:29 -0800 From: chip wiegand To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: printer filters Message-Id: <20030316192629.063dfb1c.chip@wiegand.org> Organization: Alternative Operating Systems X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG does anyone have a printer filter they can copy me on for printing web pages (or ps-adobe-3.0 pages). I have a epson stylus c62 printer to print to connected to a win98 machine. I have used apsfilter but it still will not print properly and I am wasting too much ink and paper on junk printouts. thanks Chip To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 20: 4:21 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD8A37B401; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:04:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8452243F75; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:04:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fozekizer@attbi.com) Received: from socrates (12-210-153-247.client.attbi.com[12.210.153.247]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52) with SMTP id <2003031704041805200oociqe>; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 04:04:19 +0000 Reply-To: From: "charles pelletier" To: "'Greg 'groggy' Lehey'" , "'Brian McCann'" Cc: Subject: RE: Dirty shutdown and I'm now stuck Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:04:05 -0600 Message-ID: <000b01c2ec3a$40cd2640$05040101@socrates> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20030317013408.GH4895@wantadilla.lemis.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG this may not be the solution, but, i've had similar experiences with various machines i've had, and i was able to run fsck, BUT, i had to run it multiple times, upwards of 7 or 8 times every once in awhile. Mind you, these were pentium Is or IIs with very old hardware, but, it still worked. good luck and i hope you find the final solution :) Charles Pelletier Tech Coordinator St Luke's School Irving, TX -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Greg 'groggy' Lehey Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 7:34 PM To: Brian McCann Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dirty shutdown and I'm now stuck On Sunday, 16 March 2003 at 19:58:25 -0500, Brian McCann wrote: > Ok...I just had a system crash that I was working on. When coming back > up, I got an error that says it cannot read a block on the disk, and to > run fsck manually. When I run "fsck -f /dev/adwhatever" it just says > the same thing, listing the blocks it can't read, asks "Continue [yn]", > and no matter what I choose, I still can't mount it. Anyone have any > ides on how to fix this? Looks like it's time to dig out your backups. "Can't read a block" normally means that the disk is dying. You may be able to salvage something by mounting read-only and trying to copy to a new disk. You don't need a clean file system for a read-only mount. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 20:11:35 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 847F537B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:11:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F0943F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:11:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fozekizer@attbi.com) Received: from socrates (12-210-153-247.client.attbi.com[12.210.153.247]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51) with SMTP id <2003031704062005100ir12he>; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 04:06:20 +0000 Reply-To: From: "charles pelletier" Cc: Subject: RE: Installing FreeBSD (was: no subject) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:06:06 -0600 Message-ID: <000c01c2ec3a$894d2d70$05040101@socrates> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3E751D37.70403@potentialtech.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG really you oughtta read the handbook or the newbies section on freebsd.org. how new are you to unix or bsd? Charles Pelletier Tech Coordinator St Luke's School Irving, TX -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bill Moran Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 6:56 PM To: KAROLYN LEWIS Cc: Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD (was: no subject) [You're more likely to get answers if you use a subject line] KAROLYN LEWIS wrote: > MY question is: Can you give me a step by step instruction on how to > download the unix program to my "d" drive. I am running W'ME on a Pentinum > III, 500MHz system. I have two hdd.the second one being my 'd' drive which > is a scsi and very bare. I have printed out your instructions but I am > stuck on the "arch and version". Where do I obtain this information. Any > an all help you can provide will be most appreciated. Thanks much in > advance!! First off, you appear to be fairly new to FreeBSD. FreeBSD is not a "unix program" per-se. Think of it more as an alternative to Windows ME and you've got the right idea. Thus, you could theoretically replace Windows ME with FreeBSD. Being as you're new, I wouldn't recommend that you do that just yet. First, install both Windows & FreeBSD so they can coexist. You can run either of them, just not both at the same time. Is this the section that you had read?: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.html If not, read it very carefully. The whole thing. Pay special attention to the section that says "back up your data" because it's very easy to destroy your Windows installation if you've never done this before. If you get stuck, please give a more detailed explanation of where you're stuck. I could not figure out where the "arch and version" section is that you're talking about. Also: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org is a mailing list that thousands of people are involved in. When you reply to this message, use the "reply all" button on your mail program, and you'll reply both to the list as well as to me. That way someone else can answer your question if I'm not available. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 20:20:30 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D559D37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:20:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from otto.acs.nmu.edu (otto.acs.nmu.edu [198.110.199.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25AB43FDD for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:20:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from plathrop@nmu.edu) Received: from nmu.edu (Minerva.resnet.nmu.edu [204.38.206.86]) by otto.acs.nmu.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2H4KP7D021990 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:20:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:20:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Sending mail to this list From: "Paul D. Lathrop" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-Antivirus:: Passed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was attempting to send a different question to this list, when I ran smack dab into a more pressing problem. When I sent the mail, it never reached the list. Further investigation found this message in my mail logs: Mar 16 22:10:32 rackspace postfix/smtp[28417]: 8B00131673: to=, relay=mx1.freebsd.org[216.136.204.125], delay=11, status=deferred (host mx1.freebsd.org[216.136.204.125] said: 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [65.61.155.146] (in reply to RCPT TO command)) What exactly does this mean, and how can I fix it? I don't want my mail server to be crippled in this manner. Thanks, Paul D. Lathrop (usually plathrop@mqtweb.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 20:25:17 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6241437B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:25:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460CE43F75 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:25:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F59051A58; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:55:11 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:55:11 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: charles pelletier Cc: Brian McCann , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dirty shutdown and I'm now stuck Message-ID: <20030317042511.GL4895@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20030317013408.GH4895@wantadilla.lemis.com> <000b01c2ec3a$40cd2640$05040101@socrates> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="z9sQuz+HmDh2hVO4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000b01c2ec3a$40cd2640$05040101@socrates> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --z9sQuz+HmDh2hVO4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 16 March 2003 at 22:04:05 -0600, charles pelletier wrote: > On Sunday, March 16, 2003 7:34 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Sunday, 16 March 2003 at 19:58:25 -0500, Brian McCann wrote: >>> Ok...I just had a system crash that I was working on. When coming back >>> up, I got an error that says it cannot read a block on the disk, and to >>> run fsck manually. When I run "fsck -f /dev/adwhatever" it just says >>> the same thing, listing the blocks it can't read, asks "Continue [yn]", >>> and no matter what I choose, I still can't mount it. Anyone have any >>> ides on how to fix this? >> >> Looks like it's time to dig out your backups. "Can't read a block" >> normally means that the disk is dying. >> >> You may be able to salvage something by mounting read-only and trying >> to copy to a new disk. You don't need a clean file system for a >> read-only mount. > > this may not be the solution, but, i've had similar experiences with various > machines i've had, and i was able to run fsck, BUT, i had to run it multiple > times, upwards of 7 or 8 times every once in awhile. Mind you, these were > pentium Is or IIs with very old hardware, but, it still worked. > good luck and i hope you find the final solution :) If the disk's dying, this is counterproductive. The first thing you want to do is get the data off before things get worse. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers --z9sQuz+HmDh2hVO4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+dU4nIubykFB6QiMRAiqPAKCFgG53yuTSvHuE4r5vD+PHn8omPACgnY/u 107x/3eW6oICEmTUGWUI9N0= =1Plg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --z9sQuz+HmDh2hVO4-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 20:32: 2 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709D937B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ra.dweebsoft.com (ra.dweebsoft.com [209.237.40.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB25B43FE0 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:31:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daxbert_news@dweebsoft.com) Received: from ra.dweebsoft.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ra.dweebsoft.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2H4VvMc000271; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:31:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daxbert_news@dweebsoft.com) Received: (from http@localhost) by ra.dweebsoft.com (8.12.6/8.12.3/Submit) id h2H4VvOZ000270; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:31:57 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: ra.dweebsoft.com: http set sender to daxbert_news@dweebsoft.com using -f Received: from 64.81.58.36 ( [64.81.58.36]) as user daxbert@localhost by ra.dweebsoft.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:31:57 -0800 Message-ID: <1047875517.3e754fbd6e85e@ra.dweebsoft.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:31:57 -0800 From: Daxbert To: "Paul D. Lathrop" Cc: "" Subject: Re: Sending mail to this list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 64.81.58.36 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting "Paul D. Lathrop" : > I was attempting to send a different question to this list, when I ran > smack dab into a more pressing problem. When I sent the mail, it never > reached the list. Further investigation found this message in my mail > logs: > > Mar 16 22:10:32 rackspace postfix/smtp[28417]: 8B00131673: > to=, relay=mx1.freebsd.org[216.136.204.125], > delay=11, status=deferred (host mx1.freebsd.org[216.136.204.125] said: > 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [65.61.155.146] > (in reply to RCPT TO command)) I believe your mail is being rejected by the freebsd.org server due to '65.61.155.146' not having a reverse pointer. According to ARIN, this IP is owned by Rackspace. You should email ipadmin@rackspace.com and ask that a proper reverse pointer be entered for your host. (I presume the host at rackspace is what you're using as your mail relay???) --daxbert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 20:34:12 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7BA37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from david.io.com (david.io.com [199.170.88.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8871A43F93 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:34:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eighner@io.com) Received: from io.com (aus-as2-164.io.com [199.170.89.164]) by david.io.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id h2H4Y7304161 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:34:07 -0600 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:33:49 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Eighner To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to make a linux binary run on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <200303161337.00677.taxman@acd.net> Message-ID: <20030316223031.P1576@pearl.io.com> References: <20030316082949.Y572@pearl.io.com> <200303161337.00677.taxman@acd.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, taxman wrote: > This seems pretty clear. The linuix syscall that this program uses > is not supported on FreeBSD. The linux binary compatibility is > pretty good for userland binaries and so forth. But any time you > get into hardware, you're stepping closer into that 10% of linux > code that will not run on FreeBSD. > > It seems your only option would be to port that source code to > FreeBSD, and use the right syscalls. Try an email to -hackers to > see if anybody has any ideas on that. > > Personally given how cheap a simple working videocard can be, ($10 > used) I don't know if I would beat my head against a wall to try to > get it working. But if you want to experiment for fun, then by all > means don't let me discourage. Well, I'm glad to hear money grows on trees where you are. Yet another piece of hardware that I can't use after playing FreeBSD roulette - and linux compatibility is yet another tout that turns out to be bullshit. -- Lars Eighner eighner@io.com -finger for geek code- http://www.io.com/~eighner/index.html 600 E 53RD ST APT 119 AUSTIN TX 78751 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 20:36: 1 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758DF37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C4C43FA3 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:36:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fozekizer@attbi.com) Received: from socrates (12-210-153-247.client.attbi.com[12.210.153.247]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51) with SMTP id <2003031704331405100rt49de>; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 04:33:14 +0000 Reply-To: From: "charles pelletier" Cc: Subject: RE: Too many collisions on network? Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:33:00 -0600 Message-ID: <000f01c2ec3e$4b3cabb0$05040101@socrates> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <02d101c2ec0c$0ddf0ec0$1502a8c0@blacktrap.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That's been my experience as well. Could be the type of hardware yer using. I've had my best luck with Netgear products. As far as ISPs..as a former tech supporter for flashnet (remember them?), i highly suggest speaking to upper level techs..lower level supporters are the kind that support basic connectivity issues and that's about all. > Dan Nelson wrote: > > Input errors probably means that whatever you're plugged into does not > > support full-duplex (i.e. it's a hub), which is why autoselect selected > > half-duplex. > > You know, now that he brings this up, I tend to agree. > It's possible that the hub you're plugging into is saturated: that will > result in high collision rates and poor performance. You won't get > anything better because that's the best the hub can do. > If I'm right on this guess, you need to take it up with your ISP, as it's > something they need to address. Ok I left this one in autoselect for now, and will contact my ISP tomorrow, and try and ask them to find solution for this high collision number problem... Thanks a lot everybody who answered :) Olivier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 20:43:26 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D4637B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:43:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from lml104.siteprotect.com (lml104.siteprotect.com [66.113.136.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2750D43F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:43:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@robertbennett.us) Received: from robertbennett.us (ip-D82EC65A.arc1.sdy.pathwaynet.com [216.46.198.90]) by lml104.siteprotect.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA21508; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:43:22 -0600 Message-ID: <3E75526A.5050803@robertbennett.us> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:43:22 -0500 From: Robert Bennett Reply-To: robertbennett@huckfinn2.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ja, zh-cn MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Subject: FreeBSD Compatible PCMCIA Card Modem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm writing because I'm having some difficulty with my internal modem and I need to get a PC Card modem to replace it. I need a 56k modem that is compatible with both LINUX and UNIX.. I just can't find one that is listed as having such compatibility.. for examplei found this US robotics modem that is listed as Linux compatible... http://www.usr.com/products/laptop/laptop-product.asp?sku=USR0756-XJ however it isn't listed as UNIX compatible.... and i havn't found one that is. any assistance or advice would be greatly appreciated. i'm stuck.. thanks -- Robert email: robertbennett@huckfinn2.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 20:48:34 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FAA37B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:48:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw1-out.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21EBD43F93 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:48:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virus-gate.meiway.com [212.73.210.91]) by mgw1-out.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 16587EF6A6 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 05:33:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.meiway.com [127.0.0.1]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DFC225D009 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 05:52:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [212.73.210.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959B85D008 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 05:52:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from tx0-go2france-c.Go2France.com [24.242.169.51] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A81710900F0; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 06:07:35 +0100 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030316223609.02afc1e8@mail.go2france.com> X-Sender: LConrad@Go2France.com@mail.go2france.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:48:26 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: Sending mail to this list In-Reply-To: <1047875517.3e754fbd6e85e@ra.dweebsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Mar 16 22:10:32 rackspace postfix/smtp[28417]: 8B00131673: > > to=, relay=mx1.freebsd.org[216.136.204.125], > > delay=11, status=deferred (host mx1.freebsd.org[216.136.204.125] said: > > 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [65.61.155.146] > > (in reply to RCPT TO command)) "cannot find your hostname" is a postfix msg specific to failure of the ip sending as sender@sender.domain to have matching A + PTR records. the FreeBSD MX must have lookup table where, assuming Paul was sending as plathrop@mqtweb.com when he was rejected, that contains a list "frequently forged domains and/or domains known to have matching A + PTR records": mqtweb.com reject_unknown_client For such domains, Postfix takes the ip of the sending MTA, queries for its PTR hostname, and then queries for the A record of the hostname, which must have the same ip: C.D.B.A.in-addr.arpa. PTR some.host.name. some.host.name. A A.B.C.D Since 65.61.155.146 has no PTR hostname, the PTR + A match fails, and msg rejected. >I believe your mail is being rejected by the freebsd.org server due to >'65.61.155.146' not having a reverse pointer. that's sufficient to get rejected (no PTR will never be able to match an A record), but having a PTR is not sufficient to get accepted btw, the actual domain of some.host.name can be anything. i.e., it does not need to be "label.mqtweb.com" Len To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 20:58:41 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848A737B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:58:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from fep01-svc.mail.telepac.pt (fep01-svc.mail.telepac.pt [194.65.5.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B6243F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:58:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from please_not_send_this@address.ru) Received: from servidor.telepac.pt ([213.13.28.143]) by fep01-svc.mail.telepac.pt (InterMail vM.5.01.04.13 201-253-122-122-113-20020313) with ESMTP id <20030317045833.ZCHV15707.fep01-svc.mail.telepac.pt@servidor.telepac.pt>; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 04:58:33 +0000 Received: from User (WLL-46-pppoe099.t-net.net.ve [200.71.128.99]) by servidor.telepac.pt with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id HCKD7436; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 04:48:26 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Seminar" Subject: Говорите покупателю правду ! ! ! 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Только правду и ничего, кроме правды!
Говорите больше правды, чем он от Вас ждет!
Но никогда не говорите ему всю правду!
(Японское изречение о рекламе)
 
Тренинг N 25-03
26 марта 2003 года с 10.00 до 18.00
СКРЫТЫЕ СООБЩЕНИЯ В РЕКЛАМЕ:
УМЕНИЕ ГОВОРИТЬ ТО, ЧТО КЛИЕНТ ХОЧЕТ УСЛЫШАТЬ
 
Автор и ведущая - Наталья Петрова, кандидат педагогических наук, лауреат премии Европейской Академии Наук за книгу "Виртуальная реальность для начинающих" (1998), автор книги "Тренинг для победителя" (2002), докторант Российского института культурологии по теме "Продвижение сложных продуктов на конкурентных рынках", бизнес-консультант и независимый тренер в области рекламы и PR, продажи сложных продуктов, продвижения творческих решений в бизнесе
 
Цель тренинга: научить аналитически и художественно точно проектировать рекламу с эффективными скрытыми сообщениями для различных типов СМИ
 
Программа:
 
Центральный механизм рекламного захвата аудитории:
- Основа рекламного воздействия. Цена удовлетворения для клиента и продавца. Механизм "поглощения" рекламного сообщения
- Ожидания, формирующие рынок. Рынок, формирующий ожидания. Классификация аудитории по степени восприимчивости к рекламе
- Реклама в СМИ как средство формирования и отражения ожиданий целевой аудитории. Убеждение "от клиента". Пирамида потребностей аудитории как основа эффективной рекламы
 
Техника создания психо-логического каркаса рекламного сообщения:
- Нечеткая психо-логика целевой аудитории: аргументация, мифы, иллюзии, стандарты и ценности бытового мышления
- Техники убеждения с использованием бытового мышления. "Аура" рекламируемого товара как причина покупки
- Реклама как виртуальная реальность. Виртуальная мотивация к реальной покупке
 
Искусство художественно-гипнотического моделирования рекламы:
- Реклама как художественная акция. Идеология современного искусства как основа рекламного произведения
- Реклама как гипноз. Техники "легального" обращения к бессознательному.  Изображение как основа рекламного мифа
- Коммуникативные характеристики рекламы. Изменение поведения вследствие рекламы
 
Практикум:
- Анализ рекламных материалов участников группы различного формата
- Построение рекламного сообщения со скрытыми смыслами для различных СМИ на основании ревизии имеющейся рекламы и целей рекламной кампании
 
Методы:
Интерактивные лекции, разбор видеозаписей рекламных роликов, групповые дискуссии, мозговые атаки, case studies
 
УЧАСТНИКАМ ВЫДАЕТСЯ СВИДЕТЕЛЬСТВО УСТАНОВЛЕННОГО ОБРАЗЦА И
АВТОРСКИЕ МЕТОДИЧЕСКИЕ МАТЕРИАЛЫ
 
Стоимость участия одного представителя организации - 199 у.е. без НДС,
двух и более - 169 у.е. без НДС за каждого представителя
 
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по телефону: (095) 933-74-33, по факсу: (095) 933-74-32
 SFQMVDQOMIENEYLREISSLSTQIQJRQQMUJISUWV To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 21: 0: 1 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9455737B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:00:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from office.transekspedicija.lt (office.transekspedicija.lt [195.14.169.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9363543F93 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:59:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spam@freebsd.lt) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by transekspedicija.lt (Postfix) with SMTP id 2639EA565; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 06:59:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from mantukas (office-49.office [192.168.0.49]) by office.transekspedicija.lt (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20C0A564; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 06:59:27 +0200 (EET) From: "Mantas S." To: "'Charlie Root'" , Subject: RE: CVSUPing to 4.8-RC2 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 07:00:01 +0200 Organization: FreeBSD LT Message-ID: <00a201c2ec42$111b3e70$3100a8c0@trans.transekspedicija.lt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <200303170116.h2H1G5Zn034321@villi.leasat.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actualy u can use tag=RELENG_4 to cvsup to 4.8RC2 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Charlie Root Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:16 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: CVSUPing to 4.8-RC2 What tag=RELENG_4_8_0_RC2 use in my cvsup flle to update release?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 21: 8:46 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B524937B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:08:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from otto.acs.nmu.edu (otto.acs.nmu.edu [198.110.199.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D37443F3F for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:08:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from plathrop@nmu.edu) Received: from nmu.edu (Minerva.resnet.nmu.edu [204.38.206.86]) by otto.acs.nmu.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2H58c7D029178; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 00:08:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 00:08:35 -0500 Subject: Re: Sending mail to this list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To: Daxbert From: "Paul D. Lathrop" In-Reply-To: <1047875517.3e754fbd6e85e@ra.dweebsoft.com> Message-Id: <8146DC19-5836-11D7-A325-000393BF3DE2@nmu.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail (v25) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-Antivirus:: Passed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 11:31 PM, Daxbert wrote: > Quoting "Paul D. Lathrop" : > >> I was attempting to send a different question to this list, when I ran >> smack dab into a more pressing problem. When I sent the mail, it never >> reached the list. Further investigation found this message in my mail >> logs: >> >> Mar 16 22:10:32 rackspace postfix/smtp[28417]: 8B00131673: >> to=, relay=mx1.freebsd.org[216.136.204.125], >> delay=11, status=deferred (host mx1.freebsd.org[216.136.204.125] said: >> 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [65.61.155.146] >> (in reply to RCPT TO command)) > > I believe your mail is being rejected by the freebsd.org server due to > '65.61.155.146' not having a reverse pointer. I run many domains off of this machine - does it have to have a reverse pointer that matches the domain name for every domain, or will it suffice to have a single correct reverse pointer? In short, I want to make sure my server is configured correctly to not appear as a spammer or some other nuisance - Web Media Works (the company I work for) is a valid (if small) hosting provider. Thanks for your help, Paul D. Lathrop (normally plathrop@mqtweb.com) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQE+dVhWlos2supvBQwRAnwdAJ4nCY/TjKOg14coWLzsIBO4yt1RIACfbv2a DDEdcpIej0RZEkxoRelTm7g= =UAg3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 21:26:44 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E8F37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:26:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from leopard.wlwhosting.com (LanIP002.WingedLeopardWeb-gw.bil.oneeighty.com [216.187.187.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D20943F85 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:26:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lucas@wlwhosting.com) Received: from wlwhosting.com (localhost.wlwhosting.com [127.0.0.1]) by leopard.wlwhosting.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2564A124F95 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:26:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from 216.187.134.163 (SquirrelMail authenticated user lucas) by mail.wlwhosting.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:26:42 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <1139.216.187.134.163.1047878802.squirrel@mail.wlwhosting.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:26:42 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Sending mail to this list From: "Lucas Reddinger" To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > According to ARIN, this IP is owned by Rackspace. You should email > ipadmin@rackspace.com and ask that a proper reverse pointer be entered > for your host. (I presume the host at rackspace is what you're using > as your mail relay???) I cannot believe that an ISP would let this go on. I'm not sure if I should be suprised by Rackspace allowing this or not. I have one of my domains that I use for mail hosted with a web hosting provider. I have the same problem. So I've been mailing to the list from my own box. It makes for a nice annoyance, huh? Lucas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 21:48: 9 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C1237B404 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw1-out.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECAB43FA3 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:48:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virus-gate.meiway.com [212.73.210.91]) by mgw1-out.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 4D4FDEF90A for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 06:32:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.meiway.com [127.0.0.1]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 988EB5D00A for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 06:51:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [212.73.210.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDED5D008 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 06:51:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from tx0-go2france-c.Go2France.com [24.242.169.51] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A60F11200E6; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 07:07:11 +0100 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030316234512.02316560@mail.go2france.com> X-Sender: LConrad@Go2France.com@mail.go2france.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:48:01 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: Sending mail to this list In-Reply-To: <8146DC19-5836-11D7-A325-000393BF3DE2@nmu.edu> References: <1047875517.3e754fbd6e85e@ra.dweebsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I run many domains off of this machine - does it have to have a reverse >pointer that matches the domain name for every domain Only one PTR record per ip. Applications don't know how to handle more than one. >, or will it suffice to have a single correct reverse pointer? yes. Right now, the reverse zone for the ip that was rejected is delegated to rackspace NS, not yours. Len To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 22: 4:21 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA89C37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from otto.acs.nmu.edu (otto.acs.nmu.edu [198.110.199.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8855543FBD for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:04:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from plathrop@nmu.edu) Received: from nmu.edu (Minerva.resnet.nmu.edu [204.38.206.86]) by otto.acs.nmu.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2H64F7D037778; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 01:04:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 01:04:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Sending mail to this list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To: Len Conrad From: "Paul D. Lathrop" In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030316234512.02316560@mail.go2france.com> Message-Id: <48294587-583E-11D7-A325-000393BF3DE2@nmu.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-Antivirus:: Passed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, March 17, 2003, at 12:48 AM, Len Conrad wrote: > >> I run many domains off of this machine - does it have to have a >> reverse pointer that matches the domain name for every domain > > Only one PTR record per ip. Applications don't know how to handle > more than one. > >> , or will it suffice to have a single correct reverse pointer? > > yes. > > Right now, the reverse zone for the ip that was rejected is delegated > to rackspace NS, not yours. > We use Rackspace's nameservers to manage our domains. Shouldn't that mean it's already configured properly? Before I go bugging them about it, I want to be as learned as possible. Thank you all for your help. - --Paul -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQE+dWVElos2supvBQwRAu0+AJ9BesBRgdxFJtYXU4GxtFiTQ0GcqwCfRPq1 DkDwntWcH/V5ovtyyC2ysLo= =vIkH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 22:17:42 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9494F37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:17:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.mail.ru (mx3.mail.ru [194.67.57.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3A543F93 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:17:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ser_astr5@mail.ru) Received: from [194.186.135.52] (helo=gfghjf) by mx3.mail.ru with esmtp (Exim SMTP.3) id 18unwG-0009XT-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:17:36 +0300 Message-ID: <000101c2ec66$c0164720$3487bac2@gfghjf> From: =?koi8-r?B?08XSx8XK?= To: Subject: fghjgf Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:15:20 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG нПЦОП МЙ ХУФБОПЧЙФШ ПДОПЧТЕНЕОП unix Й windows ОБ ПДЙО ЦЕУФЛЙК ДЙУЛ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 16 22:22: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A529F37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:22:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from office.transekspedicija.lt (office.transekspedicija.lt [195.14.169.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9CA43FAF for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:22:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spam@freebsd.lt) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by transekspedicija.lt (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D3C6A56E; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 08:21:34 +0200 (EET) Received: from mantukas (office-49.office [192.168.0.49]) by office.transekspedicija.lt (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2DBA56D; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 08:21:33 +0200 (EET) From: "Mantas S." 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Received: from 192.168.0.4 (SquirrelMail authenticated user list@linopryne.com) by mail.linopryne.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 02:52:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3113.192.168.0.4.1047887542.squirrel@mail.linopryne.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 02:52:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: Problems making world in 5.0-RELEASE From: "Jorge Mario G." To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG HI I just downloaded 5.0-RELEASE install miniso Installed, downloaded cvsup updated the sources did make buildworld and it finished OK but make installworld fails! also it fails trying to build the kernel ############################################################ su-2.05b# cd /usr/src/ su-2.05b# make installworld mkdir -p /tmp/install.602 for prog in [ awk cap_mkdb cat chflags chmod chown date echo egrep find grep ln make makewhatis mtree mv perl pwd_mkdb rm sed sh sysctl test true uname wc zic; do cp `which $prog` /tmp/install.602; done usage: cp [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-f | -i | -n] [-pv] src target cp [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-f | -i | -n] [-pv] src1 ... srcN directory *** Error code 64 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. su-2.05b# ################################################################## su-2.05b# config GENERIC config: ../compile/GENERIC: No such file or directory su-2.05b# pwd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf su-2.05b# ################################################################# su-2.05b# uname -a FreeBSD cat.linopryne.com 5.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 16 22:16:53 GMT 2003 root@hollin.btc.adaptec.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 su-2.05b# ################################################################# what am I doing wrong?? Jorge To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Mar 17 0: 8: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644C537B401 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 00:08:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from benny.geektank.org (12-208-186-69.client.attbi.com [12.208.186.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC5D43F85 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 00:08:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from questions1045@geektank.org) Received: from benny.geektank.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by benny.geektank.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2H8DcJV041633; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 00:13:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from questions1045@geektank.org) Received: from localhost (tmchow@localhost) by benny.geektank.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h2H8DbSH041630; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 00:13:38 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: benny.geektank.org: tmchow owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 00:13:37 -0800 (PST) From: questions1045@geektank.org X-X-Sender: tmchow@benny To: Toni Schmidbauer , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache can't start -- seg fault? Message-ID: <20030317000847.C41508@benny> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> Actually, i did do that already. I used "portupgrade" to upgrade >> apache13-modssl port. In the past, that upgrade modssl along with >>apache. >which other apache-modules are installed? does a "apachectl >start" work? if there are any other modules, disable them=20 >and try to start apache. "apacehctl start" does indeed work -- so it looks as though it's only SSL that's broken here (ie. "apachectl startssl" causes seg fault). I have mod_perl and mod_php4 installed but disabling them has no effect -- apache still seg faults when starting with "startssl". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Mar 17 0:13:37 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83D137B401; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 00:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from spider.deepcore.dk (cpe.atm2-0-56339.0x50c6aa0a.abnxx2.customer.tele.dk [80.198.170.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C5D43F93; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 00:13:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@spider.deepcore.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by spider.deepcore.dk (8.12.8/8.12.8) id h2H8DTG5003994; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:13:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Soeren Schmidt Message-Id: <200303170813.h2H8DTG5003994@spider.deepcore.dk> Subject: Re: Serial ATA support in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <005701c2ec26$67c6a820$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> To: Matthew Emmerton Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:13:28 +0100 (CET) Cc: Mark Jacobs , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL98b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Matthew Emmerton wrote: > > Received no responses the first time, so am trying again. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I am in the process of building a new system and was looking at > > using the new Seagate Barracuda Serial ATA drives. > > Does FreeBSD 4.x, or 5.x support SATA? > > Mark Jacobs > > If FreeBSD can detect the SATA controller, then I imagine it would support > it just fine, since the same command set is used on the software side. Currently the only (known) support SATA controllers are the Highpoint 15x0 series (they are just old PATA chips with PATA -> SATA converters). > Are you offering to donate a SATA controller / SATA-equipped motherboard to > Soren to make this a reality? That would be nice indeed, I do have Promise's SATA products, but I'm looking for all other SATA controllers and *especially* SATA disks... -Sшren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Mar 17 0:23:20 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609CA37B401 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 00:23:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (oberon.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [195.245.194.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F73643F85 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 00:23:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simon@comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua) Received: by relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (Postfix, from userid 426) id 5FF5A19BB7; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:23:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (eth0.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [10.0.1.184]) by relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1B719A78; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:23:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [10.18.54.109]) by comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2H8Rmc79533; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:27:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2H8MD6E000274; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:22:13 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from simon@pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua) Received: (from simon@localhost) by pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h2H8M8mm000273; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:22:08 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:22:08 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200303170822.h2H8M8mm000273@pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> From: Andrey Simonenko To: "Tino Didriksen" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intelligent Bandwidth Limiter? In-Reply-To: <037801c2ebeb$38b7d990$0401a8c0@duronica.lucky.freebsd.questions> X-Newsgroups: lucky.freebsd.questions User-Agent: tin/1.5.12-20020427 ("Sugar") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.7-STABLE (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:38:59 +0000 (UTC) in lucky.freebsd.questions, Tino Didriksen wrote: > (trying this again, since it didn't appear last time I sent it...) > > I have a dedicated server with 500GB monthly transfer limit, and I > don't want to cross that limit. So, I want to impose an artificial > maximum bandwidth, yet not until a certain threshold has been reached. > > Example: > I have 500GB total max monthly transfer. > I want a 400GB threshold before the limiter kicks in, which will impose > a byte/second limit for the remaining 100GB, so that it never goes over > 500GB for the month. But, from when the limiter has started till the end > of the month, it should recalculate remaining GB every half hour and > adjust the byte/second limit accordingly, since peak/idle hours are so > varied. > I think that port sysutils/ipa (1.3.1 latest version) will help you, check limit section in ipa, also check two examples in /usr/local/share/examples/ipa. 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The Iraq crisis and its influence on the Russian and world economies

Your Opinion on the Crisis in Iraq
Ваше мнение о кризисе в Ираке
 
Do you think that a war on Iraq is inevitable?
Думаете ли вы, что война с Ираком неизбежна?
Yes
No
I don't know
Will the Russian economy benefit from an Iraq war?
Сможет ли получить Российская экономика выгоду от этой войны?
Yes
No
The war won't affect the Russian economy
What will be the effect of a war on the Russian economy?
Как повлияет война на российскую экономику?