From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 01:45:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5916737B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 01:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from marek.org (host-100-146.telprojekt.pl [80.55.100.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 906CB43FBD for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 01:45:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marek@marek.org) Received: (qmail 152 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jun 2003 10:51:08 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 10:51:08 +0000 From: Marek Denis To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030615105108.GA132@messiah.marek.org> References: <20030615004643.GA183@messiah.marek.org> <20030614230308.GC2063@nitro.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030614230308.GC2063@nitro.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: cdrom after installing kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 08:45:58 -0000 On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 01:03:09AM +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > On 2003.06.15 00:46:43 +0000, Marek Denis wrote: > > > I have got a little problem- after rebuilding the kernel my CD ROM > > doesn't work. I thought maybe I had commented something necessary (like > > CD9660), but even if I only change ident and filename from GENERIC to > > something other after mount /cdrom I get this error: > > > > "cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Device not configured " (ofcourse I had put cd into the cdrom ) > > while using GENERIC kernel everything is all right otherwise device can't be configured...why > > We need more information to find the problem. I think dmesg should give > a hint, mainly the parts about ata. You can get the ata parts of dmesg > by running : > > # grep ata /var/run/dmesg.boot atapci0: port 0xff00-0xff0f at device 2.5 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 ad0: 39083MB [79408/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: CD-RW at ata1-slave PIO4 > > Btw. please set up your email program to break the lines at around 72 > characters. > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 03:18:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DE637B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 03:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from marek.org (host-100-146.telprojekt.pl [80.55.100.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 385A843F93 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 03:18:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marek@marek.org) Received: (qmail 208 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jun 2003 12:23:53 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 12:23:53 +0000 From: Marek Denis To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030615122353.GA193@messiah.marek.org> References: <20030615004643.GA183@messiah.marek.org> <20030614230308.GC2063@nitro.dk> <20030615105108.GA132@messiah.marek.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030615105108.GA132@messiah.marek.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: cdrom after installing kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 10:18:43 -0000 On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 10:51:08AM +0000, Marek Denis wrote: > On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 01:03:09AM +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > > On 2003.06.15 00:46:43 +0000, Marek Denis wrote: > > > > > I have got a little problem- after rebuilding the kernel my CD ROM > > > doesn't work. I thought maybe I had commented something necessary (like > > > CD9660), but even if I only change ident and filename from GENERIC to > > > something other after mount /cdrom I get this error: > > > > > > "cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Device not configured " (ofcourse I had put cd > into the cdrom ) > > > while using GENERIC kernel everything is all right otherwise > device can't be configured...why > > > > > > # grep ata /var/run/dmesg.boot > > atapci0: port 0xff00-0xff0f at device 2.5 on pci0 > ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 > ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 > ad0: 39083MB [79408/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 > acd0: CD-RW at ata1-slave PIO4 > I have solved my problem. in my /etc/fstab file there was a line /dev/acd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/acd0c worked only with GENERIC, but when I tried marek# mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0a /cdrom (acd0a also listed in /dev) everything worked great. So, the next step is only to modify /etc/fstab and everything works all right. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 04:09:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEED37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 04:09:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E27B143F3F for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 04:09:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from iedowse@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 15 Jun 2003 12:09:15 +0100 (BST) To: Marek Denis MMDF-Warning: Unable to confirm address in 'To' line at salmon.maths.tcd.ie In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 15 Jun 2003 12:23:53 -0000." <20030615122353.GA193@messiah.marek.org> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 12:09:14 +0100 From: Ian Dowse Message-ID: <200306151209.aa20964@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cdrom after installing kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:09:18 -0000 In message <20030615122353.GA193@messiah.marek.org>, Marek Denis writes: > >I have solved my problem. in my /etc/fstab file there was a line >/dev/acd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > >/dev/acd0c worked only with GENERIC, but when I tried > >marek# mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0a /cdrom (acd0a also listed in /dev) > everything worked great. So, the next step is only to modify /etc/fstab >and everything works all right. If this fixed it, it means that you forgot to run cd /dev; sh MAKEDEV all when updating, or you missed the mergemaster step that does this. At some stage before 4.6-RELEASE, the minor number for the acd0c device changed, so attempting to use the old device node would give the "Device not configured" error. The minor number for acd0a did not change however, so its old device node continues to work (in fact, acd0c now has the same minor number as acd0a). Ian From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 07:13:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC0837B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 07:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D9E43F93 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 07:13:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@fishballoon.org) Received: from fishballoon.org ([81.104.195.199]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com ESMTP <20030615141309.QQRG13529.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@fishballoon.org>; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 15:13:09 +0100 Received: from tuatara.fishballoon.org (tuatara [192.168.1.6]) by fishballoon.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5FECP4o094485; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 15:12:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott@tuatara.fishballoon.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by tuatara.fishballoon.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5FECOXp017130; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 15:12:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 15:12:24 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell To: Richard Schilling Message-ID: <20030615141224.GD4880@tuatara.fishballoon.org> References: <20030610220919.41E1F5D04@ptavv.es.net> <200306121915.h5CJFGSL083703@apollo.backplane.com> <3EE8D5EB.5030308@sliderule.demon.co.uk> <200306122247.32026.wes@softweyr.com> <200306130555.h5D5td1j086033@apollo.backplane.com> <87isr9n8dw.fsf@Pectopah.shenton.org> <3EEB2BDA.3040705@gmx.de> <20030614145534.GA4880@tuatara.fishballoon.org> <20030614152524.GC21487@foghorn.rsmba.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030614152524.GC21487@foghorn.rsmba.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Via EPIA Mini-ITX motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 14:13:11 -0000 On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 08:25:24AM -0700, Richard Schilling wrote: > Thanks for the link. I checked out web page. I'm not familiar with > the 933 Mhz VIA C3 CPU, VIA CLE266 Chipset. Do you have any > information on that? The C3 is is not-particularly-high-performance i686-class CPU core. The only thing that's really special about it is that it uses relatively little power, compared to your average modern CPU from Intel or AMD. The 'Eden' variants are particularly good -- the 600MHz Eden on my EPIA-ME6000 board probably performs about as well as a 500MHz PIII -- more than enough for most tasks -- yet the whole board consumes a maximum of around 22W, under full load. Contrast that with the Athlon XP1800+ in my main workstation, that probably gets through about 50W when it's idle, never mind what the rest of the board is using :-( More info on the EPIA boards on Matt Dillon's site: http://apollo.backplane.com/FreeBSD/epia/review.html Full specs at: http://www.viapsd.com/ I don't know much about the CLE266. It includes VIA's 'CastleRock' graphics hardware and some DVD decoding support. Almost all the onboard hardware of the EPIA boards is supported by FreeBSD, including the Firewire and USB ports (the latter only at USB 1.1 speeds for the moment). The CastleRock graphics have some early support in XFree86, but not the MPEG decoder. See another one of Matt's pages for the full scoop on getting it to work with XFree86 on FreeBSD: http://apollo.backplane.com/FreeBSD/ You wouldn't want to play 3D games on these boards, or run buildworld on them too often, but they're more than powerful enough for most other jobs. I don't know if anyone has tried this, but I would expect the faster (933MHz and 1GHz) boards at least to have enough grunt to handle DVD playback even without the MPEG hardware. Cheers, Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 07:20:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C74F37B404 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 07:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5994643FA3 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 07:20:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from noor (mail.comrax.com [194.90.246.126]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E6B5C72529 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:20:10 +0300 (IDT) From: "Noor Dawod" To: "FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List" Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:19:20 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4925.2800 Importance: Normal Subject: make stops in bind's compilation X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 14:20:13 -0000 Hi, Brand-new installation of FreeBSD 4.8 + 'make world', including updating ports, sources, crypt/secure sources and everything. When trying to compile bind8 from ports, this is the error that get reported: ===> Building for bind-8.3.6 Using .systype Using .settings /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/include /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/include/arpa /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/include/isc /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/port /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/port/freebsd /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/port/freebsd/include /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/port/freebsd/include/sys probe_ipv6 /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib/resolv /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib/irs /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib/isc /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib/bsd /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib/inet /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib/nameser /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib/dst /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib/cylink /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib/dnssafe /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/bin /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/bin/addr /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/bin/nslookup cc -O -pipe -W -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings -W format -o nslookup main.o getinfo.o debug.o send.o skip.o list.o subr.o commands.o ../../lib/libbind.a -ll -lutil ../../lib/libbind.a(res_init.o): In function `__res_randomid': res_init.o(.text+0xf78): undefined reference to `isc__gettimeofday' ../../lib/libbind.a(ev_timers.o): In function `__evNowTime': ev_timers.o(.text+0xc8): undefined reference to `isc__gettimeofday' ../../lib/libbind.a(prandom.o): In function `__dst_s_quick_random': prandom.o(.text+0x12c): undefined reference to `isc__gettimeofday' prandom.o(.text+0x1b1): undefined reference to `isc__gettimeofday' prandom.o(.text+0x4a0): undefined reference to `isc__gettimeofday' ../../lib/libbind.a(prandom.o)(.text+0x9e9): more undefined references to `isc__gettimeofday' follow *** Error code 1 Stop in /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/bin/nslookup. *** Error code 1 Stop in /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/bind8. Any idea what to do? Is the port broken? Noor From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 07:24:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB7F37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 07:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B00243FB1 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 07:24:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from noor (mail.comrax.com [194.90.246.126]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 335827250E for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:24:28 +0300 (IDT) From: "Noor Dawod" To: "FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List" Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:23:38 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4925.2800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: make stops in bind's compilation X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 14:24:30 -0000 Folks, This is the most bizzare compilation I had for some time... I just did 'make clean' and then 'make' to compile bind, and it went perfect! What was that all about?!? Noor | -----Original Message----- | From: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org | [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Noor Dawod | Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 5:19 PM | To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List | Subject: make stops in bind's compilation | | | Hi, | | Brand-new installation of FreeBSD 4.8 + 'make world', | including updating | ports, sources, crypt/secure sources and everything. | | When trying to compile bind8 from ports, this is the error that get | reported: | | ===> Building for bind-8.3.6 | Using .systype | Using .settings | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/include | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/include/arpa | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/include/isc | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/port | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/port/freebsd | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/port/freebsd/include | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/port/freebsd/include/sys | probe_ipv6 | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib/resolv | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib/irs | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib/isc | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib/bsd | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib/inet | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib/nameser | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib/dst | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib/cylink | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/lib/dnssafe | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/bin | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/bin/addr | /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/bin/nslookup | cc -O -pipe -W -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wcast-qual | -Wwrite-strings -W | format -o nslookup main.o getinfo.o debug.o send.o skip.o list.o | subr.o commands.o ../../lib/libbind.a -ll -lutil | ../../lib/libbind.a(res_init.o): In function `__res_randomid': | res_init.o(.text+0xf78): undefined reference to `isc__gettimeofday' | ../../lib/libbind.a(ev_timers.o): In function `__evNowTime': | ev_timers.o(.text+0xc8): undefined reference to `isc__gettimeofday' | ../../lib/libbind.a(prandom.o): In function `__dst_s_quick_random': | prandom.o(.text+0x12c): undefined reference to `isc__gettimeofday' | prandom.o(.text+0x1b1): undefined reference to `isc__gettimeofday' | prandom.o(.text+0x4a0): undefined reference to `isc__gettimeofday' | ../../lib/libbind.a(prandom.o)(.text+0x9e9): more undefined references | to `isc__gettimeofday' follow | *** Error code 1 | | Stop in /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/bin/nslookup. | *** Error code 1 | | Stop in /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src/bin. | *** Error code 1 | | Stop in /var/tmp/usr/ports/net/bind8/work/src. | *** Error code 1 | | Stop in /usr/ports/net/bind8. | | | Any idea what to do? Is the port broken? | | Noor | | _______________________________________________ | freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list | http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable | To unsubscribe, send any mail to | "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 10:10:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9462D37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 10:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9066443F3F for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 10:10:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@sliderule.demon.co.uk) Received: from sliderule.demon.co.uk ([80.177.21.188]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19Rb1e-0008py-0U for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:10:42 +0100 Message-ID: <3EECA891.9060900@sliderule.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:10:41 +0100 From: Steve Burton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-gb, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20030610220919.41E1F5D04@ptavv.es.net> <200306121915.h5CJFGSL083703@apollo.backplane.com> <3EE8D5EB.5030308@sliderule.demon.co.uk> <200306122247.32026.wes@softweyr.com> <200306130555.h5D5td1j086033@apollo.backplane.com> <87isr9n8dw.fsf@Pectopah.shenton.org> <3EEB2BDA.3040705@gmx.de> <20030614145534.GA4880@tuatara.fishballoon.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Via EPIA Mini-ITX motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:10:44 -0000 Scott Mitchell wrote: > On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 04:06:18PM +0200, Siegbert Baude wrote: > >>Are your machines completely diskless then? Which kind of PSU do you use >>then? Some of these low-power external ones? I really would like to get >>rid of every fan in such an EPIA machine. Both because of the sound and >>the possible failure source. With no mechanical parts left inside the >>computer, it should also be robust enough, to be tossen around in the >>kitchen by children. >>Another possible use would be as multimedia centre in the living room, >>but I suspect you would need the 1GHz version then (or what about the >>newer chipsets? They should have some hardware acceleration to make life >>easuer for the processor?). Is it possible to pasive cool this one, if >>there is no additional heat source like a harddisk or PSU in the case? > > > Siegbert, > > You want one of these babies: http://www.hush-technologies.com/ 1GHz CPU, > totally fanless. I think this is about the only piece of computer > equipment I've ever seen that I'd be happy to keep on my hi-fi rack :-) > You do pay quite a premium for the fancy heatsink/case though, and I'm not > sure whether they do a complpetely diskless version. > > Scott > In the UK, www.miniitx.com distributes these. I've just checked their site and they offer 40, 60, 80 and 120 Gbyte disks. You could always buy the 40GB version and disconnect the drive. Steve. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 10:37:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CD837B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 10:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623D343FD7 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 10:37:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5FHb3VI001996; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 10:37:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h5FHb3WO001995; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 10:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 10:37:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200306151737.h5FHb3WO001995@apollo.backplane.com> To: Steve Burton References: <20030610220919.41E1F5D04@ptavv.es.net> <200306121915.h5CJFGSL083703@apollo.backplane.com> <200306122247.32026.wes@softweyr.com> <200306130555.h5D5td1j086033@apollo.backplane.com> <87isr9n8dw.fsf@Pectopah.shenton.org> <3EEB2BDA.3040705@gmx.de> <3EECA891.9060900@sliderule.demon.co.uk> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Via EPIA Mini-ITX motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:37:05 -0000 :> Scott :> :In the UK, www.miniitx.com distributes these. I've just checked their :site and :they offer 40, 60, 80 and 120 Gbyte disks. You could always buy the 40GB :version and disconnect the drive. : :Steve. From the UK www.miniitx.com is probably fine, but for people in the U.S. I would use www.idot.com. The problem with miniitx is that they use PayPal and PayPal not only reams us on the currency conversion, they also don't properly back out charges that go through currency conversions when something goes wrong (despite miniitx doing everything right I still had to go to my Bank to fix PayPal's improper backout when a problem occured). Also, miniitx is a very small outfit and they've stated that they've had problems with U.S. Delivery in the past. Other then those issues, the miniitx folk are really nice people. -Matt Matthew Dillon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 11:59:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5E937B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blue.icn.pl (blue.icn.pl [212.182.96.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A38643FA3 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:59:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n0n4m3@blue.icn.pl) Received: (qmail 10886 invoked by uid 2074); 15 Jun 2003 18:59:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Jun 2003 18:59:13 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 20:59:13 +0200 (CEST) From: n0n4m3 To: Scott Lambert In-Reply-To: <20030614053608.GB8466@laptop.lambertfam.org> Message-ID: <20030615205816.Q10766@blue.icn.pl> References: <20030614053608.GB8466@laptop.lambertfam.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: FreeBSD STABLE Subject: Re: sshd refusing connections problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:59:12 -0000 try reinstall sshd install fresh from ports install opensshd latest On Sat, 14 Jun 2003, Scott Lambert wrote: > We have been having a problem with sshd on our shell server. > > This has been happening since March 4, 2003 or before IIRC. Initially I > thought the next OS upgrade, to 4.8 would fix this. I am accustomed to > haveing little things go away in a month or two. > > I think we jumped to 4.7-STABLE on Feb 28, 2003. Some exploit fix > wasn't being MFSd to RELENG_4_7 fast enough for my nerves (cvsd?). It > was last upgraded to FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #8: Mon Mar 31 22:13:07 EST > 2003, RELENG_4_8. > > sshd regularly stops accepting new connections. There is never anything > in the logs. This time the last connection before sshd stopped taking > new connections was the user, lets call him "bob" who always manages to > leave a lot of processes with the title of "sshd: bob [priv] (sshd)". > Bob currently has 35 of those processes up. > > Jun 13 19:17:55 shell sshd[39482]: Accepted password for bob from 10.321.321.321 port 3616 > Jun 13 20:28:01 shell sshd[72401]: Received SIGHUP; restarting. > Jun 13 20:28:02 shell sshd[41220]: Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22. > Jun 13 21:06:49 shell sshd[42072]: Accepted publickey for scott from 68.160.236.249 > > Obviously, I faked the IP for "bob". > > I consoled in this time and hooked up truss to the server PID. I was > running: > > while true ; do /usr/bin/ssh shell.example.com; done; > > Thinking that if it were a file handle problem, I might accidentally > get in if I caught it as an active user logged out. It was closing the > connection as soon as it was made (TCP handshake). I have, umm, lost > the error messages I was seeing on my side. Hopefully the truss output > will be sufficient. My ssh client never got far enough to negotiate a > key with the server. > > Truss output is at : > > http://www.lambertfam.org/~lambert/sshd_problem/truss_sshd > > netstat -an | grep '\.22 ' output is at : > > http://www.lambertfam.org/~lambert/sshd_problem/netstat-an_sshd > > Faked the first two octets of the other users' IPs. > > Once I -HUP the sshd process and it forks a new daemon, everything is ok > for another week or two. > > -- > Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin > lambert@lambertfam.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 12:55:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53CE37B407 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 12:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110CE43FBF for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 12:55:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@fishballoon.org) Received: from fishballoon.org ([81.104.195.199]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030615195542.JHW7113.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@fishballoon.org>; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 20:55:42 +0100 Received: from tuatara.fishballoon.org (tuatara [192.168.1.6]) by fishballoon.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5FJsx4o095377; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 20:54:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott@tuatara.fishballoon.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by tuatara.fishballoon.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5FJswIV019725; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 20:54:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 20:54:58 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell To: Matthew Dillon Message-ID: <20030615195458.GF4880@tuatara.fishballoon.org> References: <20030610220919.41E1F5D04@ptavv.es.net> <200306121915.h5CJFGSL083703@apollo.backplane.com> <200306122247.32026.wes@softweyr.com> <200306130555.h5D5td1j086033@apollo.backplane.com> <87isr9n8dw.fsf@Pectopah.shenton.org> <3EEB2BDA.3040705@gmx.de> <3EECA891.9060900@sliderule.demon.co.uk> <200306151737.h5FHb3WO001995@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200306151737.h5FHb3WO001995@apollo.backplane.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Via EPIA Mini-ITX motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 19:55:46 -0000 On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 10:37:03AM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :Steve. > > From the UK www.miniitx.com is probably fine, but for people in the U.S. I > would use www.idot.com. The problem with miniitx is that they use PayPal > and PayPal not only reams us on the currency conversion, they also don't > properly back out charges that go through currency conversions when > something goes wrong (despite miniitx doing everything right I still had > to go to my Bank to fix PayPal's improper backout when a problem occured). > > Also, miniitx is a very small outfit and they've stated that they've > had problems with U.S. Delivery in the past. Other then those issues, > the miniitx folk are really nice people. > > -Matt > Matthew Dillon > People in the UK, or indeed the rest of Europe, might also want to look at http://www.linitx.com/ They have a slightly different range than the mini-itx.com guys, including some different pre-assembled Mini-ITX systems, and excellent customer service and order tracking, IME. Between the two of them you should be able to find everything you need in the Mini-ITX department. There's also http://www.cfide.co.uk/ for (surprise!) Compact Flash <-> IDE adapters of various kinds, and http://www.ultim8pc.co.uk/ who also do Mini-ITX components, although I haven't dealt with them at all so far. Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 13:25:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF16D37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 13:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmx1.freemail.hu (fmx4.freemail.hu [195.228.242.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 82E6043FA3 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 13:25:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kovacspeter2@freemail.hu) Received: (qmail 22116 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2003 22:25:50 +0200 Received: from fm7.freemail.hu (195.228.242.207) by fmx4.freemail.hu with SMTP; 15 Jun 2003 22:25:50 +0200 Received: (qmail 81675 invoked by uid 3421979); 15 Jun 2003 22:25:50 +0200 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 22:25:50 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Kov=E1cs_P=E9ter?= To: postfix-users@postfix.org Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.182.50.106] X-HTTP-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 20:25:54 -0000 Hello, I am having FreeBSD 4.8 and a bunch of problems with the ports install. When I installed SASL2 from ports before, he poped up a menu asking what do I need. db5. etc.. Now it just compiles. I compiled postfix with TLS and SASL2 and from the new compiled system problems come up: (SASL2 was recompiled as well) postfix/smtpd[64197]: unable to dlopen /usr/local/lib/sasl2/libdigestmd5.so: /usr/local/lib/sasl2/libdigest md5.so: Undefined symbol "des_cbc_encrypt" postfix/smtpd[64197]: unable to dlopen /usr/local/lib/sasl2/libntlm.so: /usr/local/lib/sasl2/libntlm.so: Undefined symbol "des_set_odd_parity" Please help me.... From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 13:41:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025E537B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 13:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F50A43FA3 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 13:41:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5FKfoVI002748 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 13:41:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h5FKfoQo002747; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 13:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 13:41:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200306152041.h5FKfoQo002747@apollo.backplane.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: dvd+rw-tools ported to FreeBSD (Sony 500A DVD[+/-]R[W] support) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 20:41:51 -0000 I just finished up a port of Andy Polyakov's excellent dvd+rw-tools to FreeBSD, and he has incorporated the patches into his release: http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/ http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/tools/ (version 5.8.4.4.4) These tools support DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, and DVD+RW format dvd burners, including the popular Sony 500A (which I just bought myself, hence the port). It should work on a wider variety of burners then the half-broken GNU dvdrecord tools work on (the GNU dvdrecord is a hacked up version of the original cdrecord). Andy's tool set is based around his growisofs program which features multi-session recording capabilities. You also need to have mkisofs installed since growisofs uses it. You can burn individual files or ISO images with andy's tools. Someone should build a FreeBSD port for this toolset, there's a gaping hole in the FreeBSD ports tree where DVD-recording ought to be. -Matt Matthew Dillon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 15:23:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24D837B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 15:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop017.verizon.net (pop017pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3F843F85 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 15:23:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com ([141.149.47.46]) by pop017.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20030615222345.ZBOQ27254.pop017.verizon.net@mac.com>; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:23:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3EECF1EE.7000201@mac.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:23:42 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030529 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Dillon References: <200306152041.h5FKfoQo002747@apollo.backplane.com> In-Reply-To: <200306152041.h5FKfoQo002747@apollo.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at pop017.verizon.net from [141.149.47.46] at Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:23:44 -0500 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvd+rw-tools ported to FreeBSD (Sony 500A DVD[+/-]R[W] support) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 22:23:47 -0000 Matthew Dillon wrote: [ ... ] > You also need to have mkisofs installed since growisofs uses it. You > can burn individual files or ISO images with andy's tools. > > Someone should build a FreeBSD port for this toolset, there's a gaping > hole in the FreeBSD ports tree where DVD-recording ought to be. OK. How does this look: # This is a shell archive. Save it in a file, remove anything before # this line, and then unpack it by entering "sh file". Note, it may # create directories; files and directories will be owned by you and # have default permissions. # # This archive contains: # # dvd+rw-tools/ # dvd+rw-tools/Makefile # dvd+rw-tools/distinfo # dvd+rw-tools/pkg-descr # dvd+rw-tools/pkg-plist # echo c - dvd+rw-tools/ mkdir -p dvd+rw-tools/ > /dev/null 2>&1 echo x - dvd+rw-tools/Makefile sed 's/^X//' >dvd+rw-tools/Makefile << 'END-of-dvd+rw-tools/Makefile' X# New ports collection makefile for: dvd+rw-tools X# Date created: 2003-6-15 X# Whom: chuck@pkix.net X# X# $FreeBSD: $ X XPORTNAME= dvd+rw-tools XPORTVERSION= 5.8.4.4.4 XCATEGORIES= sysutils XMASTER_SITES= http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/tools/ X XMAINTAINER= chuck@pkix.net XCOMMENT= DVD+RW burning software X XRUN_DEPENDS= ${LOCALBASE}/bin/mkisofs:${PORTSDIR}/sysutils/mkisofs X XMAN1= growisofs.1 X Xpost-install: X ${INSTALL_MAN} ${WRKSRC}/growisofs.1 ${MANPREFIX}/man/man1/ X X# NO_PACKAGE= ignores cflags and cxx X X.include END-of-dvd+rw-tools/Makefile echo x - dvd+rw-tools/distinfo sed 's/^X//' >dvd+rw-tools/distinfo << 'END-of-dvd+rw-tools/distinfo' XMD5 (dvd+rw-tools-5.8.4.4.4.tar.gz) = 75de7d3741f7373a1eacbf48213b6e4c END-of-dvd+rw-tools/distinfo echo x - dvd+rw-tools/pkg-descr sed 's/^X//' >dvd+rw-tools/pkg-descr << 'END-of-dvd+rw-tools/pkg-descr' XDVD+RW Tools by Andy Polyakov. This software allows one to use a DVD Xburner, as well as supporting multisession CD-R/W formats, primarily Xvia the "growisofs" utility. X Xgrowisofs was originally designed as a frontend to mkisofs to facilitate Xappending of data to ISO9660 volumes residing on random-access media such as XDVD+RW, DVD-RAM, plain files, hard disk partitions. In the course of Xdevelopment general purpose DVD recording support was implemented, and as of Xnow growisofs supports not only random-access media, but even mastering of Xmulti-session DVD media such as DVD+R and DVD-R/-RW. In addition growisofs Xsupports first-/single-session recording of arbitrary pre-mastered image X(formatted as UDF, ISO9660 or any other file system, if formatted at all) to Xall supported DVD media types. X XWWW: http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW END-of-dvd+rw-tools/pkg-descr echo x - dvd+rw-tools/pkg-plist sed 's/^X//' >dvd+rw-tools/pkg-plist << 'END-of-dvd+rw-tools/pkg-plist' Xbin/growisofs Xbin/dvd+rw-format Xbin/dvd+rw-booktype Xbin/dvd+rw-mediainfo X END-of-dvd+rw-tools/pkg-plist exit -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 16:51:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6805337B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9AD43F3F for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5FNptVI011949; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h5FNptsC011948; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:51:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200306152351.h5FNptsC011948@apollo.backplane.com> To: Chuck Swiger References: <200306152041.h5FKfoQo002747@apollo.backplane.com> <3EECF1EE.7000201@mac.com> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvd+rw-tools ported to FreeBSD (Sony 500A DVD[+/-]R[W] support) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:51:56 -0000 :> :> Someone should build a FreeBSD port for this toolset, there's a gaping :> hole in the FreeBSD ports tree where DVD-recording ought to be. : :OK. How does this look: Looks good. Wow, you came up with that pretty fast! There was an issue w/ your archive, the Makefile needs to use a tab instead of spaces for that indented line. But other then that it appears to work fine. There is also one niggling issue of the binaries being installed suid-root which you might want to patch to 755 for security reasons, but it isn't a show stopper. -Matt From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 17:30:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C5C37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Shenton.org (23.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 989D943F85 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:30:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@Shenton.Org) Received: (qmail 22537 invoked by uid 1000); 16 Jun 2003 00:30:38 -0000 To: Siegbert Baude References: <20030610220919.41E1F5D04@ptavv.es.net> <200306121915.h5CJFGSL083703@apollo.backplane.com> <3EE8D5EB.5030308@sliderule.demon.co.uk> <200306122247.32026.wes@softweyr.com> <200306130555.h5D5td1j086033@apollo.backplane.com> <87isr9n8dw.fsf@Pectopah.shenton.org> <3EEB2BDA.3040705@gmx.de> From: Chris Shenton Date: 15 Jun 2003 20:30:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: <3EEB2BDA.3040705@gmx.de> Message-ID: <87u1aq3lu9.fsf@PECTOPAH.shenton.org> Lines: 41 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Via EPIA Mini-ITX motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 00:30:42 -0000 Siegbert Baude writes: > Are your machines completely diskless then? Yes, but just one -- so far. Wanted to test it out and see how it worked. Could be a bit snappier running something bloated like Mozilla, but fine for a kitchen :-). I may have issues with network speed, bloated kernel, or something else which I haven't gotten around to diagnosing yet. For a desktop, quiet is nice but I'd like a bit more speed or snappiness. I might later try putting a quiet disk in one and doing something like a net-install of the OS so if it ever loses power or needs upgrading it could happen with a known-working OS. I like "data-less" machines so I can minimize sysadm duties. > Which kind of PSU do you use then? Some of these low-power external > ones? I'm using the Casetronic 2699R which has an external wall-wart power supply -- thus no fan :-) > With no mechanical parts left inside the computer, it should also be > robust enough, to be tossen around in the kitchen by children. I haven't disconnected the two tiny fans inside yet. I think Matthew indicated the cpu and chips might need some airflow, so I'm not in any hurry -- they're very quiet and the noise isn't unpleasant or whiney like disks can. > Another possible use would be as multimedia centre in the living > room, but I suspect you would need the 1GHz version then (or what > about the newer chipsets? Dunno, but that's one of the reasons I wanted to try one out. If it's fast enough for audio and video, put a box in the stereo and another with the TeeVee. Matthew's way ahead of me here. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 18:04:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0667A37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from access.inet.co.th (access.inet.co.th [203.151.127.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FEC43F3F for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:04:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from radwaste.thai-aec.org (TruPPPv92-230-131.inet.co.th [203.151.230.131]) by access.inet.co.th (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h5G143w7036930 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:04:03 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from firak.thai-aec.org (firak.thai-aec.org. [192.168.1.55]) by radwaste.thai-aec.org (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5G1GYFj000305 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:16:35 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from firak.thai-aec.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by firak.thai-aec.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5G12YBU000474 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:02:34 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: (from pirat@localhost) by firak.thai-aec.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5G12XGt000473 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:02:33 +0700 (ICT) X-Authentication-Warning: firak.thai-aec.org: pirat set sender to pirat@access.inet.co.th using -f Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:02:33 +0700 From: pirat To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20030616010233.GA434@thai-aec.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=tis-620 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD firak.thai-aec.org 4.8-STABLE FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE Subject: libc and thai locale X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 01:04:08 -0000 hi sirs, have been using freebsd for some time. now come the time for me to use freebsd in my daily life. my local language is thai and so does freebsd libc support thai locale ? any help and hints are welcome. -- with best regards, psr http://www.thai-aec.org http://www.thai.net/makham From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 21:29:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C044737B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop015.verizon.net (pop015pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA02143FB1 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:29:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com ([141.149.47.46]) by pop015.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20030616042907.ARR20810.pop015.verizon.net@mac.com> for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:29:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3EED4790.6060302@mac.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 00:29:04 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030529 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200306152041.h5FKfoQo002747@apollo.backplane.com> <3EECF1EE.7000201@mac.com> <200306152351.h5FNptsC011948@apollo.backplane.com> In-Reply-To: <200306152351.h5FNptsC011948@apollo.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at pop015.verizon.net from [141.149.47.46] at Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:29:07 -0500 Subject: Re: dvd+rw-tools ported to FreeBSD (Sony 500A DVD[+/-]R[W] support) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 04:29:10 -0000 Matthew Dillon wrote: [ ... ] > Looks good. Wow, you came up with that pretty fast! There was an > issue w/ your archive, the Makefile needs to use a tab instead of > spaces for that indented line. But other then that it appears to work > fine. Ah, the post-install line? Thanks. Although I have to say, figuring out that the project Makefile didn't actually install the manpage took me longer than anything else. [ :-) / 2 ] > There is also one niggling issue of the binaries being installed suid-root > which you might want to patch to 755 for security reasons, but it isn't > a show stopper. Hmm. If the project needn't be installed setuid-root, then maybe this should be pushed back to the author? He should change the perms used by his install target. -Chuck From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 21:46:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CF837B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605AD43FD7 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:46:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5G4kaVI012949; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:46:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h5G4ka8w012948; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:46:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200306160446.h5G4ka8w012948@apollo.backplane.com> To: Chuck Swiger References: <200306152041.h5FKfoQo002747@apollo.backplane.com> <200306152351.h5FNptsC011948@apollo.backplane.com> <3EED4790.6060302@mac.com> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvd+rw-tools ported to FreeBSD (Sony 500A DVD[+/-]R[W] support) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 04:46:40 -0000 : :> There is also one niggling issue of the binaries being installed suid-root :> which you might want to patch to 755 for security reasons, but it isn't :> a show stopper. : :Hmm. If the project needn't be installed setuid-root, then maybe this should be :pushed back to the author? He should change the perms used by his install target. : :-Chuck Well, the project is primarily targeted towards linux and they tend to install a lot more suid programs then we do in order to allow certain programs (such as those manipulating a CDRom, DVD, floppy, etc..) to be run from userland. It's probably easier for us to just patch it. In anycase, the work is appreciated! -Matt From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 23:17:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0649237B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDB043FA3 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:17:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5G6H7VI013448; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:17:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h5G6H7NO013447; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:17:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200306160617.h5G6H7NO013447@apollo.backplane.com> To: Chris Shenton References: <20030610220919.41E1F5D04@ptavv.es.net> <200306121915.h5CJFGSL083703@apollo.backplane.com> <3EE8D5EB.5030308@sliderule.demon.co.uk> <200306122247.32026.wes@softweyr.com> <200306130555.h5D5td1j086033@apollo.backplane.com> <87u1aq3lu9.fsf@PECTOPAH.shenton.org> cc: Siegbert Baude cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Via EPIA Mini-ITX motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 06:17:09 -0000 :> With no mechanical parts left inside the computer, it should also be :> robust enough, to be tossen around in the kitchen by children. : :I haven't disconnected the two tiny fans inside yet. I think Matthew :indicated the cpu and chips might need some airflow, so I'm not in any :hurry -- they're very quiet and the noise isn't unpleasant or whiney :like disks can. Yes, there are two options there. You can pick up one of those little fan speed controllers that goes inline with the fan power connector, or you can solder a 47 Ohm 1W resistor inline with each of the two 'red' wires (using heat shrink tubing to shield any bare copper). This will make the fans spin more slowly and thus be far quieter (possible because the insides generate a lot less heat relative to a typical Intel or Amd box. But if you are going to have an internal HD it might be a good idea to leave the two tiny fans running at normal speed. I also had to seal the air vents on the left hand side of the case so the fans would pull in air across the cpu and chipsets from the right hand side of the case. :> Another possible use would be as multimedia centre in the living :> room, but I suspect you would need the 1GHz version then (or what :> about the newer chipsets? : :Dunno, but that's one of the reasons I wanted to try one out. If it's :fast enough for audio and video, put a box in the stereo and another :with the TeeVee. Matthew's way ahead of me here. It's certainly fast enough for audio, but I suspect DVD or MPEG2-Video needs an asist from the on-board hardware mpeg2 decoder to be viable on an EM-6000, and the driver doesn't support that yet (though the via-supplied Linux driver probably does). I definitely like the compact flash boot idea. I just ordered a couple of compact flash IDE adapters for just that purpose. Mozilla runs fine on an EM-6000 though of course it will be noticeably slower verse running on a P3 or P4, especially when it is being run for the first time. The trick with these Mini-ITX boards is, as always, to stuff them full of ram. I recommend 512M minimum. -Matt Matthew Dillon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 23:20:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A4037B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rsmba.biz (evrtwa1-ar19-4-41-130-089.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net [4.41.130.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 958F543FAF for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rschi@rsmba.biz) Received: (qmail 445 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2003 06:17:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO foghorn.rsmba.biz) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 06:17:37 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:17:37 -0700 From: Richard Schilling To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030616061737.GQ304@foghorn.rsmba.biz> References: <20030615020746.GC43044@foghorn.rsmba.biz> <20030615022904.GA46521@rot13.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20030615022904.GA46521@rot13.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 19:29:04 -0700 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.4.4 Lines: 14 Subject: Re: Gnucash on 4.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 06:20:12 -0000 Right - that's how I figured out the workaround. Not sure what's in 4.8 that's not in 4.6 which would cause the problem however. --Richard On 2003.06.14 19:29 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 07:07:46PM -0700, Richard Schilling wrote: > > Don't know if it has been mentioned on this list, but Gnucash 1.8 > > crashes on startup under 4.6, but works fine under 4.8. > > Upgrade to 4.8 then, since you've discovered that whatever bug it was > has since been fixed :) > > Kris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 23:46:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D38F37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA4943FBD for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:46:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from noor (mail.comrax.com [194.90.246.126]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D241F72525 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:46:44 +0300 (IDT) From: "Noor Dawod" To: "FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:45:53 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4925.2800 Importance: Normal Subject: Samba on STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 06:46:46 -0000 Hi, I installed Samba 3.0 from ports (latest 4.8-STABLE) but I couldn't find few files after installation, like make_smbcodepage (http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/make_smbcodepage.1.html) and others, like the code page example files. Where are the files? A side note: how can I change installation directory when making 'make' in ports? Noor From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 23:54:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B8637B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw02.mail.saunalahti.fi (gw02.mail.saunalahti.fi [195.197.172.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861C543F75 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:54:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djv@mbnet.fi) Received: from tuomon-atte.mbnet.fi (CCCXIV.dsl.saunalahti.fi [62.142.241.14]) by gw02.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534C981F37 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:54:19 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20030616094400.00b385b8@pop.mbnet.fi> X-Sender: djv@pop.mbnet.fi (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:54:28 +0300 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Tuomo Latto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: VT6102 and RTL 8100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 06:54:21 -0000 Hi, does anyone have any idea whether VIA VT6102 "Rhine II" and Realtek RTL 8100 Ethernet chips are supported by FreeBSD? The hardware list for supported chips does list 'VT86C100A "Rhine II"' but according to VIA website VT86C100A is actually just "Rhine" and it is obviously not the same chip. (The 'VT3043 "Rhine I"' chip mentioned in hardware list can not be found with the search function on the VIA website at all.) Thanks, Tuomo From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 00:54:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140AE37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 00:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saeab.se (ture.saeab.se [213.80.3.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99ED043F75 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 00:54:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thn@saeab.se) Received: from saeab.se (omar.int.saeab.se [10.0.1.32]) by saeab.se (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5G7sANZ000909; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:54:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from thn@saeab.se) Message-ID: <3EED77A1.6C679C6F@saeab.se> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:54:09 +0200 From: Thomas Nystrom Organization: Sv. Aktuell Elektronik AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: sv,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tuomo Latto References: <5.1.1.6.2.20030616094400.00b385b8@pop.mbnet.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VT6102 and RTL 8100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 07:54:14 -0000 Tuomo Latto wrote: > > Hi, > does anyone have any idea whether VIA VT6102 "Rhine II" and Realtek RTL > 8100 Ethernet chips are supported by FreeBSD? > The hardware list for supported chips does list 'VT86C100A "Rhine II"' but > according to VIA website VT86C100A is actually just "Rhine" and it is > obviously not the same chip. (The 'VT3043 "Rhine I"' chip mentioned in > hardware list can not be found with the search function on the VIA website > at all.) The VIA VT6102 is supported. The names of the Rhine-chips listed for FreeBSD is a little bit confusing. Be prepared to get the same kind of confusion when you look at the dmesg output during a boot.... Can't say anything about Realtek chips. /thn -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Svensk Aktuell Elektronik AB Thomas Nyström Box 10 Phone: +46 8 35 92 85 S-191 21 Sollentuna Fax: +46 8 35 92 86 Sweden Email: thn@saeab.se --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 01:00:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F21537B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 01:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656E843FAF for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 01:00:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 7DF0D530F; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:00:09 +0200 (CEST) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Richard Schilling References: <20030615020746.GC43044@foghorn.rsmba.biz> <20030615022904.GA46521@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20030616061737.GQ304@foghorn.rsmba.biz> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:00:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20030616061737.GQ304@foghorn.rsmba.biz> (Richard Schilling's message of "Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:17:37 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnucash on 4.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:00:13 -0000 Richard Schilling writes: > Right - that's how I figured out the workaround. Not sure what's in > 4.8 that's not in 4.6 which would cause the problem however. That's pretty much academic, considering what's in 4.6 that's not in 4.8 (such as numerous well-publicized security vulnerabilities)... DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 01:01:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5777137B401; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 01:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viger.playstos.com (viger.playstos.com [81.208.22.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD1D43FBD; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 01:01:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from demanzano@playstos.com) Received: from sunshine.playstos.ldr (gw2.playstos.com [81.208.22.130]) by viger.playstos.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C28A20682; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:01:36 +0200 (CEST) From: "Alessandro de Manzano" To: "Ruslan Ermilov" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:01:35 +0200 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2502) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;1) In-Reply-To: <20030613210650.GD29368@sunbay.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20030616080136.3C28A20682@viger.playstos.com> cc: "stable@freebsd.org" cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Strange problem with "make clean" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alessandro de Manzano List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:01:38 -0000 On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 00:06:50 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: >On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 03:59:06PM +0200, Alessandro de Manzano wrote: [...] >This means that either /usr/obj/usr/src/secure/usr.bin/openssl >or /usr/src/secure/usr.bin/openssl have the "openssl" file, >where it's supposed to be a directory in /usr/obj/... > >rm -r /usr/obj/usr/src/secure/usr.bin/openssl Great, it worked fine on all my machines :) >Note that "make clean" is only guaranteed to work if the >object tree was populated using this same sources; everything So I should have made at least a "buildworld" before ? >else is not guaranteed to work, and "make cleandir" is >advised instead, though even this may break when the types >of some files change from "file" to "directory", like has >happened with /usr/obj/usr/src/secure/usr.bin/openssl/openssl. good, well to know :) Many thanks again! Alessandro de Manzano Senior Network Manager Playstos - TIMA S.p.A. Corso Sempione 63 20149 Milano, Italy tel.: +39-023314153 fax: +39-02315678 email: demanzano@playstos.com http://www.playstos.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 06:57:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F83337B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 06:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vivaldi.meteo.fr (vivaldi.meteo.fr [137.129.28.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B592F43F3F for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 06:57:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor.pokrovsky@cnrm.meteo.fr) Received: from cti825.cnrm.meteo.fr (localhost.meteo.fr [127.0.0.1]) NAA21882 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:57:00 GMT Received: from xdata.cnrm.meteo.fr (xdata.cnrm.meteo.fr [137.129.150.2]) PAA05639; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:56:57 +0200 (MESTDST) Received: from exmatis1.cnrm.meteo.fr (exmatis1.cnrm.meteo.fr [137.129.157.46]) by xdata.cnrm.meteo.fr with ESMTP (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/8.7.1) id PAA05066; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:57:23 +0200 (METDST) Received: from exmatis1.cnrm.meteo.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h5GDtjbf011153; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:55:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pokrovsi@exmatis1.cnrm.meteo.fr) Received: (from pokrovsi@localhost) by exmatis1.cnrm.meteo.fr (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5GDtj8b011152; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:55:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:55:44 +0200 From: Igor Pokrovsky To: Noor Dawod Message-ID: <20030616135544.GA11117@exmatis1.cnrm.meteo.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Igor Pokrovsky , Noor Dawod , FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Accept-Language: ru X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (cti825/CNRM) Organization: METEO FRANCE(CNRM) cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Subject: Re: Samba on STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Igor Pokrovsky List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:57:13 -0000 On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 09:45:53AM +0200, Noor Dawod wrote: > Hi, > > I installed Samba 3.0 from ports (latest 4.8-STABLE) but I couldn't find > few files after installation, like make_smbcodepage > (http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/make_smbcodepage.1.html) and > others, like the code page example files. > > Where are the files? All files, except man pages, installed by port are in it's pkg-plist file. List of man pages installed is usually in ports Makefile. > A side note: how can I change installation directory when making 'make' > in ports? make PREFIX=/some/dir -- Igor From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 10:31:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1767837B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from manor.msen.com (manor.msen.com [148.59.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A1B43FA3 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:31:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wayne@staff.msen.com) Received: from manor.msen.com (wayne@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manor.msen.com (8.12.7M/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h5GHVCEa027173 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by manor.msen.com (8.12.7M/8.12.7/Submit) id h5GHVCPK027172 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:31:12 -0400 From: "Michael R. Wayne" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030616133112.J386@staff.msen.com> References: <20030613041037.C89958@shell.inch.com> <87d6hhn707.fsf@Pectopah.shenton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <87d6hhn707.fsf@Pectopah.shenton.org>; from chris@shenton.org on Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 02:54:00PM -0400 Subject: Re: state of ide raid X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:31:14 -0000 We've been messing with some of the IDE RAID controllers without a lot of success. All we care about is RAID 1 on a single disk (basically to get high availablity on simple servers). Our tests with Highpoint controllers indicate that the system becomes essentially unavailable during rebuild. We'd like to find an IDE RAID solution that did not suffer from this problem since the only reason we want the RAID is to increase uptime, not reduce it. Almost seems like the right answer would be a device that went between the controller and 2 drives to mirror the data. This would mean no O/S support (or knowledge) is required. But the only ones I've found do not support current high capacity, high speed drives. /\/\ \/\/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 10:44:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414B037B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pyroxene.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7C343F75 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:44:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simian.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by pyroxene.sentex.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5GHid8D005291; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:44:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030616134135.046a0e60@209.112.4.2> X-Sender: mdtpop@209.112.4.2 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:44:36 -0400 To: "Michael R. Wayne" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <20030616133112.J386@staff.msen.com> References: <87d6hhn707.fsf@Pectopah.shenton.org> <20030613041037.C89958@shell.inch.com> <87d6hhn707.fsf@Pectopah.shenton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: By Sentex Communications (lava/20020517) Subject: Re: state of ide raid X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:44:41 -0000 The 3ware cards work quite well for this. ~ $120 USD for the 2 port version. During rebuilds the server is still available and you can control for the most part how fast or slow the rebuild process works. Its not very granular, but it does afford some control. Its essentially radio buttons that look like Faster I/O * * * * * Faster Rebuild Give them a try, I think you will like them. ---Mike At 01:31 PM 16/06/2003 -0400, Michael R. Wayne wrote: >We've been messing with some of the IDE RAID controllers without >a lot of success. All we care about is RAID 1 on a single disk >(basically to get high availablity on simple servers). > >Our tests with Highpoint controllers indicate that the system >becomes essentially unavailable during rebuild. We'd like to find >an IDE RAID solution that did not suffer from this problem since >the only reason we want the RAID is to increase uptime, not reduce >it. > >Almost seems like the right answer would be a device that went >between the controller and 2 drives to mirror the data. This would >mean no O/S support (or knowledge) is required. But the only ones >I've found do not support current high capacity, high speed drives. > >/\/\ \/\/ >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 11:25:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7706337B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:25:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web13408.mail.yahoo.com (web13408.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DD1B43FE1 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:25:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030616182506.42696.qmail@web13408.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.204.21.207] by web13408.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:25:06 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:25:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Gould To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: dvd+rw+r for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:25:07 -0000 I'm not subscribed to this list; but I read that Matthew Dillon has ported the dvd+rw tools to FreeBSD. I just compiled and installed the application; but I can't burn to a DVD+RW on a Sony DRU-500A. command: growisofs -Z /dev/acd0c -rl ./testfile result: ":-( unable to CAMGETPASSTHRU for /dev/acd0c: Inappropriate ioctl for device" The DVD+RW website: http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/tools/ which is for Linux, says that you have to use scsi emulation with ide burners. Is the Sony 500A a scsi device? (Is it different from the DRU-500A?) If not, how can I work around the scsi issue in FreeBSD? I'm using FreeBSD 4.8-Stable (stable as of a couple of weeks ago). Thanks, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 11:32:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E72B37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conn.mc.mpls.visi.com (conn.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACEB43FA3 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from veldy.net (veldy-host33.dsl.visi.com [209.98.200.33]) by conn.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598D881CD; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:32:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 4K3500B (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6665DE22; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:32:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <02fe01c33435$9dfc1400$d037630a@dh.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Andrew Gould" References: <20030616182506.42696.qmail@web13408.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:31:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvd+rw+r for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:32:22 -0000 I believe you need this in your kernel at a bare minimum. I don't know if atapicam is supported in FreeBSD 4.x. It certainly is in 5.x. # ATA and ATAPI devices device atapicam # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) Tom Veldhouse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Gould" To: Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:25 PM Subject: dvd+rw+r for FreeBSD > I'm not subscribed to this list; but I read that > Matthew Dillon has ported the dvd+rw tools to FreeBSD. > > I just compiled and installed the application; but I > can't burn to a DVD+RW on a Sony DRU-500A. > > command: growisofs -Z /dev/acd0c -rl ./testfile > result: ":-( unable to CAMGETPASSTHRU for /dev/acd0c: > Inappropriate ioctl for device" > > The DVD+RW website: > http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/tools/ > which is for Linux, says that you have to use scsi > emulation with ide burners. Is the Sony 500A a scsi > device? (Is it different from the DRU-500A?) If not, > how can I work around the scsi issue in FreeBSD? > > I'm using FreeBSD 4.8-Stable (stable as of a couple of > weeks ago). > > Thanks, > > Andrew Gould > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 11:34:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B73AE37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from util.inch.com (ns.inch.com [216.223.192.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C0243F85 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:34:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@inch.com) Received: from shell.inch.com (www.inch.com [216.223.192.20]) h5GIYnX3086660; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:34:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from spork@inch.com) Received: from shell.inch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shell.inch.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5GIYnSM020165; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:34:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from spork@inch.com) Received: from localhost (spork@localhost)h5GIYmvG020162; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:34:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.inch.com: spork owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:34:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Sprickman To: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030616134135.046a0e60@209.112.4.2> Message-ID: <20030616143157.R87423@shell.inch.com> References: <87d6hhn707.fsf@Pectopah.shenton.org> <20030613041037.C89958@shell.inch.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030616134135.046a0e60@209.112.4.2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: state of ide raid X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:34:52 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Mike Tancsa wrote: > The 3ware cards work quite well for this. ~ $120 USD for the 2 port > version. During rebuilds the server is still available and you can control > for the most part how fast or slow the rebuild process works. Its not very > granular, but it does afford some control. I'll second that. I have the 3ware two port model and it seems to have "burped" and decided one of the disks was dead. I went to the management interface (web-only) and removed/added the "bad" drive and then rebuilt the mirror. Performance was fine during the rebuild. Now why the one drive went "bad" is a question I cannot answer... Supposedly the newest firmware supports SMART, but I don't think the FreeBSD driver nor the 3ware web interface do anything with that data. Charles > Its essentially radio buttons that look like > > Faster I/O * * * * * Faster Rebuild > > Give them a try, I think you will like them. > > > ---Mike > > At 01:31 PM 16/06/2003 -0400, Michael R. Wayne wrote: > >We've been messing with some of the IDE RAID controllers without > >a lot of success. All we care about is RAID 1 on a single disk > >(basically to get high availablity on simple servers). > > > >Our tests with Highpoint controllers indicate that the system > >becomes essentially unavailable during rebuild. We'd like to find > >an IDE RAID solution that did not suffer from this problem since > >the only reason we want the RAID is to increase uptime, not reduce > >it. > > > >Almost seems like the right answer would be a device that went > >between the controller and 2 drives to mirror the data. This would > >mean no O/S support (or knowledge) is required. But the only ones > >I've found do not support current high capacity, high speed drives. > > > >/\/\ \/\/ > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 11:44:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF7937B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pyroxene.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78CF43F85 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:44:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simian.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by pyroxene.sentex.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5GIio8D005729; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:44:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030616144212.062a4878@209.112.4.2> X-Sender: mdtpop@209.112.4.2 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:45:30 -0400 To: Charles Sprickman From: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <20030616143157.R87423@shell.inch.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030616134135.046a0e60@209.112.4.2> <87d6hhn707.fsf@Pectopah.shenton.org> <20030613041037.C89958@shell.inch.com> <87d6hhn707.fsf@Pectopah.shenton.org> <5.2.0.9.0.20030616134135.046a0e60@209.112.4.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: By Sentex Communications (lava/20020517) cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: state of ide raid X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:44:52 -0000 At 02:34 PM 16/06/2003 -0400, Charles Sprickman wrote: >I'll second that. I have the 3ware two port model and it seems to have >"burped" and decided one of the disks was dead. I went to the management >interface (web-only) and removed/added the "bad" drive and then rebuilt >the mirror. Performance was fine during the rebuild. > >Now why the one drive went "bad" is a question I cannot answer... >Supposedly the newest firmware supports SMART, but I don't think the >FreeBSD driver nor the 3ware web interface do anything with that data. It does for me. Here is an example warning I get on bad drives. It also logs it to kern via syslog. SMART Threshold Exceeded condition detected on port 1 on controller ID:0. Check drive for media errors. (0xf) This was from a bad Fujitsu. ---Mike From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 12:46:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2E137B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spadger.best.vwh.net (spadger.best.vwh.net [192.220.100.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 72F0B43F3F for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:46:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spadger@spadger.best.vwh.net) Received: (qmail 43227 invoked by uid 25849); 16 Jun 2003 19:46:06 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:46:06 +0000 From: Andrew Sparrow To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Message-ID: <20030616194606.A41278@spadger.best.vwh.net> References: <20030616182506.42696.qmail@web13408.mail.yahoo.com> <02fe01c33435$9dfc1400$d037630a@dh.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <02fe01c33435$9dfc1400$d037630a@dh.com>; from veldy@veldy.net on Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 01:31:50PM -0500 cc: Andrew Gould cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvd+rw+r for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:46:07 -0000 On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 01:31:50PM -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > I believe you need this in your kernel at a bare minimum. I don't know if > atapicam is supported in FreeBSD 4.x. It certainly is in 5.x. Yup, MFC'd a long time ago now (6-8 months at a guess). Cheers, AS From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 12:58:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C48137B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE3AC43FA3 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:58:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@hyperreal.org) Received: (qmail 81142 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2003 19:58:54 -0000 Received: from localhost.hyperreal.org (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 19:58:54 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:58:54 -0700 (PDT) From: brian@hyperreal.org X-X-Sender: root@taz3.hyperreal.org To: Matthew Dillon In-Reply-To: <200306152041.h5FKfoQo002747@apollo.backplane.com> Message-ID: <20030616125646.S77050@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: <200306152041.h5FKfoQo002747@apollo.backplane.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 900/1000/N cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvd+rw-tools ported to FreeBSD (Sony 500A DVD[+/-]R[W] support) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:58:53 -0000 On Sun, 15 Jun 2003, Matthew Dillon wrote: > Someone should build a FreeBSD port for this toolset, there's a gaping > hole in the FreeBSD ports tree where DVD-recording ought to be. How timely! I was just working last night on burning some mpgs to DVD to watch on a standard DVD player. The dvdrecord program worked fine for that step, but it's good to see more tools. What would really be nice is a working dvdauthor port - the one that's there has missing dependencies and certain parts of the toolchain (like mpeg2desc) that just didn't work. Does anyone use any other tools to author video DVDs under FreeBSD? Even to the extent of using a Windows app like Nero under wine? Brian From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 13:01:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CBC237B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web13401.mail.yahoo.com (web13401.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CAAA443FA3 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030616200101.65118.qmail@web13401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.204.21.207] by web13401.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:01:01 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:01:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Gould To: Andrew Sparrow , "Thomas T. Veldhouse" In-Reply-To: <20030616194606.A41278@spadger.best.vwh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: Andrew Gould cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvd+rw+r for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:01:03 -0000 --- Andrew Sparrow wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 01:31:50PM -0500, Thomas T. > Veldhouse wrote: > > I believe you need this in your kernel at a bare > minimum. I don't know if > > atapicam is supported in FreeBSD 4.x. It > certainly is in 5.x. > > Yup, MFC'd a long time ago now (6-8 months at a > guess). > > Cheers, > > AS > Thanks to the both of you. I'll give it a try. Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 14:03:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7816837B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F8C43F85 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:03:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@fishballoon.org) Received: from fishballoon.org ([81.104.195.199]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030616210318.TIGC19142.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@fishballoon.org> for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:03:18 +0100 Received: from tuatara.fishballoon.org (tuatara [192.168.1.6]) by fishballoon.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5GL2Z4o000204 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:02:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott@tuatara.fishballoon.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by tuatara.fishballoon.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5GL2ZF4001473 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:02:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:02:35 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030616210235.GB691@tuatara.fishballoon.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 Subject: Weird USB lockup with Linksys USB100TX NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:03:20 -0000 So I have one of these, that I bought cheap on eBay. It was working just fine on my main -STABLE workstation (Abit KG7 motherboard), up until last Friday when I moved it onto the VIA EPIA-M machine I'm building. The NIC was detected OK as aue0, then the machine locked up running dhclient. It turns out that it wasn't really hung, but apparently spinning in the kernel on behalf of ifconfig. I say apparently, because the only thing I could figure out was that I had an ifconfig process consuming vast amounts of CPU in a wait on 'usbdly', before I got fed up waiting ~20s for keypresses to respond and rebooted. I've since discovered that I can reproduce this on demand by booting single user and doing an 'ifconfig down aue0'. This will take at least a minute to complete and leaves the machine almost totally unresponsive afterwards. I'll often get a bunch of 'usb error on rx: IOERROR' kernel messages while ifconfig is running. The NIC seems to still work OK otherwise. I get the same behaviour on the VIA and Abit boards (remember it used to work on this one), with 4.8R, -STABLE and 5.1R. It's tempting to assume that the hardware has just gone bad, except that it still works on three different Win2K machines, one of which is also my -STABLE workstation. I know there's not much to go on, but if anyone has any idea what might have caused this, or how to work around it, or where to start looking to debug it myself, I'd love to hear it. If the hardware is bad, then I'll give it to a Windows user and move on, but it seems odd that it mostly works, and just can't be shut down cleanly. Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 15:11:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A7637B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web13406.mail.yahoo.com (web13406.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BCC7E43FB1 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:11:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030616221146.12211.qmail@web13406.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.204.21.207] by web13406.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:11:46 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:11:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Gould To: Andrew Sparrow , "Thomas T. Veldhouse" In-Reply-To: <20030616200101.65118.qmail@web13401.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvd+rw+r for FreeBSD -- Progress but no success X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:11:47 -0000 --- Andrew Gould wrote: > --- Andrew Sparrow > wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 01:31:50PM -0500, Thomas > T. > > Veldhouse wrote: > > > I believe you need this in your kernel at a bare > > minimum. I don't know if > > > atapicam is supported in FreeBSD 4.x. It > > certainly is in 5.x. > > > > Yup, MFC'd a long time ago now (6-8 months at a > > guess). > > > > Cheers, > > > > AS > > > Thanks to the both of you. I'll give it a try. > > Andrew Gould > Update: Progress without success I've recompiled my system and kernel with atapicam. Executing 'camcontrol devlist' results in a listing of my dvd burner as a scsi device. Once I changed '/dev/acd0c' to '/dev/cd0c' in /etc/fstab, I was able to mount a cdrom in /dev/cd0c to /cdrom. I executed the following as root ('./testfile' is a short text file.): >growisofs -Z /dev/cd0c -R -J ./testfile Resutls: Executing 'mkisofs -R -J testfile | builtin_dd of=/dev/pass0 obs=32k seek=0' :-[ LBA=0h, SENSE KEY=5h/ASC=30h,ASCQ=10h ] :-( write failed: Invalid argument Any ideas? Thanks, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 15:39:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA2837B401; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net (gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net [207.246.128.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C90443FBF; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:39:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joek@mail.flyingcroc.net) Received: from mail.flyingcroc.net (zircon.staff.flyingcroc.net [207.246.150.92])h5GMdJAv077685; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:39:19 -0700 From: Joe Kelsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030515 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Tools to modify shared libraries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:39:20 -0000 Has anyone ever come across general-purpose tools for modifying shared libraries? What I want to do is to edit the list of "needed" shared libraries to correct the common mistakes that developers make in creating shared objects with large lists of shared libraries. Specifically, I want to modify linux-flashplugin6/libflashplayer.so to remove all of the idiotic references to shared libraries that the Flash 6 developers added. Since this is a plugin for Mozilla, it does not need to specify any extra shared libraries especially since Mozilla has already loaded all of them! I want to do this to make Flash 6 work with flashpluginwrapper. If I can remove the list of needed shared libraries from the DYNAMIC section of the shared library, everyone will be that much closer to a real flash 6 plugin for BSD. /Joe From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 15:53:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4759837B401; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A8F43F85; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:53:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from rushlight (allbery@[205.201.8.182]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h5GMrc327165; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:53:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon S. Allbery " KF8NH To: Joe Kelsey In-Reply-To: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> References: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1055804020.79093.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Date: 16 Jun 2003 18:53:40 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tools to modify shared libraries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:53:43 -0000 On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 18:39, Joe Kelsey wrote: > Has anyone ever come across general-purpose tools for modifying shared > libraries? What I want to do is to edit the list of "needed" shared > libraries to correct the common mistakes that developers make in > creating shared objects with large lists of shared libraries. GNU objcopy --- but it's a bit *too* general; you'd need to extract the .dynamic section, edit it using some binary editing tool, and re-add it. I doubt there are any tools of the kind you're looking for because the details are too different between different systypes; even if someone had developed one, it's just as likely to be for Linux or Solaris as for *BSD, and as a result wouldn't be particularly useful. -- brandon s allbery [openafs/solaris/japh/freebsd] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [linux/heimdal/too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university [better check the oblivious first -ke6sls] From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 21:14:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8D037B401; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onion.ish.org (onion.ish.org [219.118.161.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EE743F75; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:14:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ishizuka@ish.org) Received: from localhost (ishizuka@localhost [IPv6:::1]) h5H4E2aO080103; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:14:02 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ishizuka@ish.org) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:14:02 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20030617.131402.63065308.ishizuka@ish.org> To: nagao@iij.ad.jp From: Masachika ISHIZUKA In-Reply-To: <20030611.043812.74752191.nagao@iij.ad.jp> References: <20030609.114033.74731601.ishizuka@ish.org> <20030609041942.GA4029@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030611.043812.74752191.nagao@iij.ad.jp> X-PGP-Fingerprint20: 276D 697A C2CB 1580 C683 8F18 DA98 1A4A 50D2 C4CB X-PGP-Fingerprint16: C6 DE 46 24 D7 9F 22 EB 79 E2 90 AB 1B 9A 35 2E X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.ish.org/pgp-public-key.txt X-URL: http://www.ish.org/ X-Mailer: Mew version 3.2 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: das@freebsd.org cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system slowdown - vnode related X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 04:14:05 -0000 >>> I have still vnodes problem in 4.8-stable with /sys/kern/vfs_subr.c >>> 1.249.2.30. > > Ishizuka-san, could you possibly try the following command line > repeatedly while slowdown is being observed? > > % vmstat -m | grep '^ *vfscache' > > If the third number of its output is approaching or hitting the fourth, > the chances are your kernel is running out of memory for namecache, > which was actually the case on my machines. Hi, nagao-san. I stopped 310.locate of weekly cron and the slow down is not occurred so often. The slow down was just occurred as follows with a dual Xeon machine (Xeon 2.4GHz x 2, 2 giga byte rams, 4.8-Stable with SMP and HTT option). % sysctl -a|grep vnodes kern.maxvnodes: 140000 kern.minvnodes: 33722 debug.numvnodes: 140025 debug.wantfreevnodes: 25 debug.freevnodes: 76 % vmstat -m | grep '^ *vfscache' vfscache818445 52184K 72819K102400K 19758622 0 0 64,128,256,512K It seems that the third number is smaller enough than fourth. I typed 'sysctl kern.maxvnodes=150000' and the machine is recovered. -- ishizuka@ish.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 06:28:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7235A37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA6143F75 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:28:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Alex.Wilkinson@adelaide.on.net) Received: from popo (ppp852.adelaide.on.net.au [150.101.77.83]) h5HDSfCT073860; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:58:41 +0930 (CST) From: "Alex" To: Message-ID: <000001c3290a$e5f7cd20$0500000a@popo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2605 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 cc: alex.wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au Subject: installworld failure on -STABLE [/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:28:45 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 22:58:46 +0930 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:28:45 -0000 Hi all, I have just installed FreeBSD 4.8 -RELEASE and updated /usr/src to track RELENG_4. Buildworld builds fine, along with buildkernel. However, installworld fails with: ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 libperl.a /usr/lib install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 libperl_p.a /usr/lib install -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 libperl.so.3 /usr/lib ln -fs libperl.so.3 /usr/lib/libperl.so ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 perl /usr/bin /usr/bin/perl5 -> /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/perl5.00503 -> /usr/bin/perl ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/suidperl install -s -o root -g wheel -m 511 suidperl /usr/bin /usr/bin/sperl5 -> /usr/bin/suidperl /usr/bin/sperl5.00503 -> /usr/bin/suidperl ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/library cd: can't cd to /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/lib *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Any ideas ? I'm desperate to get this box up and running. - Alex From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 06:34:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532DF37B42A for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:34:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web13401.mail.yahoo.com (web13401.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C88543FD7 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:34:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030617133411.10182.qmail@web13401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.204.21.207] by web13401.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:34:11 PDT Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:34:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Gould To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" In-Reply-To: <000c01c334cf$3a06e1b0$d037630a@dh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvd+rw+r for FreeBSD -- Progress but no success X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:34:12 -0000 That's where I first went for information. I've successfully burned a CD-R using cdrecord, as opposed to burncd, which I would normally use for ide burners. I will check on the firmware. Thanks, Andrew Gould --- "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote: > Try visiting > http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ and make > sure your > hardware is working properly (i.e. firmware is > up-to-date). Pehaps I will > give it s try on my burner tonight and see how far > it gets me. > > Tom Veldhouse > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Gould" > To: "Andrew Sparrow" ; > "Thomas T. Veldhouse" > > Cc: > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 5:11 PM > Subject: Re: dvd+rw+r for FreeBSD -- Progress but no > success > > > > Update: Progress without success > > > > I've recompiled my system and kernel with > atapicam. > > Executing 'camcontrol devlist' results in a > listing of > > my dvd burner as a scsi device. Once I changed > > '/dev/acd0c' to '/dev/cd0c' in /etc/fstab, I was > able > > to mount a cdrom in /dev/cd0c to /cdrom. > > > > I executed the following as root ('./testfile' is > a > > short text file.): > > > > >growisofs -Z /dev/cd0c -R -J ./testfile > > > > Resutls: > > Executing 'mkisofs -R -J testfile | builtin_dd > > of=/dev/pass0 obs=32k seek=0' > > :-[ LBA=0h, SENSE KEY=5h/ASC=30h,ASCQ=10h ] > > :-( write failed: Invalid argument > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 06:38:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CAD37B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net (gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net [207.246.128.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32C143FBD; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:38:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joek@mail.flyingcroc.net) Received: from mail.flyingcroc.net (zircon.staff.flyingcroc.net [207.246.150.92])h5HDcTAv002283; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EEF19D5.9040706@mail.flyingcroc.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:38:29 -0700 From: Joe Kelsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030515 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "\"Brandon S. Allbery \"KF8NH" References: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> <1055804020.79093.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> In-Reply-To: <1055804020.79093.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tools to modify shared libraries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:38:48 -0000 Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote: > On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 18:39, Joe Kelsey wrote: > >>Has anyone ever come across general-purpose tools for modifying shared >>libraries? What I want to do is to edit the list of "needed" shared >>libraries to correct the common mistakes that developers make in >>creating shared objects with large lists of shared libraries. > GNU objcopy --- but it's a bit *too* general; you'd need to extract the > .dynamic section, edit it using some binary editing tool, and re-add it. I have tried and failed... I even looked at the code. objcopy is horrible as far as it goes. Maybe if I could learn more about bfd in general, there might be something I could do with objcopy, but it does not look promising. > I doubt there are any tools of the kind you're looking for because the > details are too different between different systypes; even if someone > had developed one, it's just as likely to be for Linux or Solaris as for > *BSD, and as a result wouldn't be particularly useful. All 32-bit Elf libraries look the same as far as the DT_NEEDED entries in the DYNAMIC section. In fact, *all* ELF libraries look the same relative to the size of the string table offset used for entries. The DYNAMIC section is the simplest of all sections, generally consisting of a tag and a value, both in the native word size (e.g., 32 or 64). I am surprised that no one has done this yet. I tried elfsh, but the version in ports is too old. I got the most recent version from the website, but it has a lot of linuxisms in it. Basically, what I want to do is remove several entries from the *front* of the dynamic section. Actually, I would settle for just removing all of a certain tag (such as DT_NEEDED) from the dynamic section. /Joe From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 06:50:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D52837B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onyx.breakawaygames.com (ip66-3-217-81.z217-3-66.customer.algx.net [66.3.217.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48FA843FD7 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:50:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mthomas@breakawayltd.com) Received: from mthomasxp (host167 [192.168.100.167]) by onyx.breakawaygames.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h5HDopB27675 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:50:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mthomas@breakawayltd.com) From: "Mark Thomas" To: Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:51:26 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Subject: System panic (mpd related?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:50:52 -0000 Getting the following panic on a new Dell Poweredge 1650. This machine is going to be a VPN server and has a large number of pptp links configured. The machine is stable if mpd is not running. (kgdb) where #0 dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487 #1 0xc0229a0f in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:316 #2 0xc0229e4d in panic (fmt=0xc042876c "%s") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595 #3 0xc03a196b in trap_fatal (frame=0xc0431bbc, eva=52) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:974 #4 0xc03a1619 in trap_pfault (frame=0xc0431bbc, usermode=0, eva=52) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:867 #5 0xc03a1193 in trap (frame={tf_fs = -1069350896, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = -1068832192, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -1069343740, tf_isp = -1069343768, tf_ebx = -1069114020, tf_edx = 6867016, tf_ecx = 11, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1070392284, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66054, tf_esp = 0, tf_ss = 0}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:466 #6 0xc0331c24 in acquire_lock (lk=0xc0469d5c) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:266 #7 0xc0336246 in softdep_fsync_mountdev (vp=0xde8fab40) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:4024 #8 0xc033a596 in ffs_fsync (ap=0xc0431c78) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vnops.c:134 #9 0xc033921f in ffs_sync (mp=0xc22de600, waitfor=2, cred=0xc1452900, p=0xc04aea40) at vnode_if.h:558 #10 0xc025a30f in sync (p=0xc04aea40, uap=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c:577 #11 0xc02297aa in boot (howto=256) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:235 #12 0xc0229e4d in panic (fmt=0xc042876c "%s") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595 #13 0xc03a196b in trap_fatal (frame=0xc0431d90, eva=1541208578) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:974 #14 0xc03a1619 in trap_pfault (frame=0xc0431d90, usermode=0, eva=1541208578) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:867 #15 0xc03a1193 in trap (frame={tf_fs = -1038286832, tf_es = 1541144592, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = 1541208544, tf_esi = 1541208544, tf_ebp = -1069343272, tf_isp = -1069343300, tf_ebx = -1068928958, tf_edx = 5, tf_ecx = 4, tf_eax = 65, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1071165571, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66054, tf_esp = -1038243328, tf_ss = -1038243328}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:466 #16 0xc0274f7d in if_name (ifp=0x5bdcf9e0) at /usr/src/sys/net/net_osdep.c:62 #17 0xc029798d in in6_purgeaddr (ifa=0xc21daa00) at /usr/src/sys/netinet6/in6.c:1186 #18 0xc02a563c in nd6_timer (ignored_arg=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/netinet6/nd6.c:579 #19 0xc022fa21 in softclock () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_timeout.c:131 #20 0xc0393b73 in doreti_swi () (kgdb) up 17 #17 0xc029798d in in6_purgeaddr (ifa=0xc21daa00) at /usr/src/sys/netinet6/in6.c:1186 1186 log(LOG_ERR, "in6_purgeaddr: failed to remove " (kgdb) [72] => uname -a FreeBSD shiva.breakawaygames.com 4.8-STABLE FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #5: Mon Jun 16 09:05:40 EDT 2003 sysadmin@shiva.breakawaygames.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SHIVA i386 Mark Thomas mthomas@breakwayltd.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 08:42:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC24837B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.BAYAREA.NET [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5A543F3F; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:42:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.201]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HFg8DZ055346; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HFg8st000673; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5HFg8LD000672; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:42:08 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Joe Kelsey Message-ID: <20030617154208.GA584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> <1055804020.79093.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> <3EEF19D5.9040706@mail.flyingcroc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EEF19D5.9040706@mail.flyingcroc.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tools to modify shared libraries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:42:12 -0000 On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:38:29AM -0700, Joe Kelsey wrote: > > Basically, what I want to do is remove several entries from the *front* > of the dynamic section. Actually, I would settle for just removing all > of a certain tag (such as DT_NEEDED) from the dynamic section. It's more constructive to fix the linker than it is to patch the ELF files created by it. The linker knows which libraries are really needed and should be able to create the minimal list of (true) dependencies. -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 08:49:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD33D37B404; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net (gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net [207.246.128.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C2D43FA3; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:49:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joek@mail.flyingcroc.net) Received: from mail.flyingcroc.net (zircon.staff.flyingcroc.net [207.246.150.92])h5HFnNAv009551; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EEF3883.1080500@mail.flyingcroc.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:49:23 -0700 From: Joe Kelsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030515 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel Moolenaar References: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> <1055804020.79093.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> <3EEF19D5.9040706@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617154208.GA584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> In-Reply-To: <20030617154208.GA584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tools to modify shared libraries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:49:25 -0000 Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:38:29AM -0700, Joe Kelsey wrote: > >>Basically, what I want to do is remove several entries from the *front* >>of the dynamic section. Actually, I would settle for just removing all >>of a certain tag (such as DT_NEEDED) from the dynamic section. > > > It's more constructive to fix the linker than it is to patch the > ELF files created by it. The linker knows which libraries are > really needed and should be able to create the minimal list of > (true) dependencies. > This cannot be accomplished by fixing the linker. The issue is one of attempting to use a *linux* shared library in a native application. Have you ever lookad at the flashpluginwarpper port? It provides a library to perload which intercepts the linux syscalls and translates them to bsd syscalls to allow linux shared libraries (specifically, the linux flash library) in native binaries. This works fine for the old flash plugin since that shared library did not include any DT_NEEDED entires in its .dynamic section. However, the new Flash 6 linux shared library has a number of explicit references to linux-only shared libraries as DT_NEEDED references in its .dynamic section. This prevents us from using the flashpluginwrapper trick to allow use of Flash 6 in native Mozilla. Do you understand now? /Joe From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 09:01:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CFE637B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:01:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.BAYAREA.NET [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4322B43F3F; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:01:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.201]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HG1gDZ055480; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:01:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HG1fst000750; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:01:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5HG1fmM000749; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:01:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:01:41 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Joe Kelsey Message-ID: <20030617160141.GB584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> <1055804020.79093.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> <3EEF19D5.9040706@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617154208.GA584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <3EEF3883.1080500@mail.flyingcroc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EEF3883.1080500@mail.flyingcroc.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tools to modify shared libraries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:01:47 -0000 On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:49:23AM -0700, Joe Kelsey wrote: > Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > >On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:38:29AM -0700, Joe Kelsey wrote: > > > >>Basically, what I want to do is remove several entries from the *front* > >>of the dynamic section. Actually, I would settle for just removing all > >>of a certain tag (such as DT_NEEDED) from the dynamic section. > > > > > >It's more constructive to fix the linker than it is to patch the > >ELF files created by it. The linker knows which libraries are > >really needed and should be able to create the minimal list of > >(true) dependencies. > > This cannot be accomplished by fixing the linker. The issue is one of > attempting to use a *linux* shared library in a native application. Linux uses the same linker (GNU ld). Fixing the linker will have the same effect on Linux as it will have on FreeBSD and hence will prevent unnecessary dependencies in Linux libraries to Linux libraries and thus remove the need to patch ELF files in the long run. -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 09:13:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B11537B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net (gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net [207.246.128.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCEA43FB1; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:13:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joek@mail.flyingcroc.net) Received: from mail.flyingcroc.net (zircon.staff.flyingcroc.net [207.246.150.92])h5HGD7Av011037; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EEF3E10.8030205@mail.flyingcroc.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:13:04 -0700 From: Joe Kelsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030515 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel Moolenaar References: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> <1055804020.79093.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> <3EEF19D5.9040706@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617154208.GA584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <3EEF3883.1080500@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617160141.GB584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> In-Reply-To: <20030617160141.GB584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tools to modify shared libraries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:13:09 -0000 Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:49:23AM -0700, Joe Kelsey wrote: > >>Marcel Moolenaar wrote: >> >>>On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:38:29AM -0700, Joe Kelsey wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Basically, what I want to do is remove several entries from the *front* >>>>of the dynamic section. Actually, I would settle for just removing all >>>>of a certain tag (such as DT_NEEDED) from the dynamic section. >>> >>> >>>It's more constructive to fix the linker than it is to patch the >>>ELF files created by it. The linker knows which libraries are >>>really needed and should be able to create the minimal list of >>>(true) dependencies. >> >>This cannot be accomplished by fixing the linker. The issue is one of >>attempting to use a *linux* shared library in a native application. > > > Linux uses the same linker (GNU ld). Fixing the linker will have the > same effect on Linux as it will have on FreeBSD and hence will prevent > unnecessary dependencies in Linux libraries to Linux libraries and > thus remove the need to patch ELF files in the long run. > The problem cannot be resolved by "fixing" ld. The problem arises from people who specify unnecessary libraries on their ld command lines. ld cannot tell the difference between a required library and an unnecessary library at link time. Only the runtime loader can do this, and the FreeBSD runtime loader has numerous problems in this area. Sometimes a shared library has to include a required library reference since the shared library author knows in advance that the programs using the library do not have the same requirements. Most often, clueless programmers reference every single library ever known to them on their linker command lines in the off-chance that it *might* make a difference at load time. However, this leads to shared libraries containing references to explicitlyly versioned libraries, thus leading to the proliferation of unnecessarily versioned shared libraries, etc., etc. I can think of many reasons for post-linker tools to modify shared libraries. Most of them involve fixing the egregious mistakes perpetrated by users who have not thought out what requirements a shared library outgt to carry with it. Others involve patching and other kinds of code modification. /Joe From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 09:23:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F5137B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.BAYAREA.NET [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253A743F75; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:23:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.201]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HGN2DZ055631; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:23:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HGN2st000811; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:23:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5HGN2JD000810; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:23:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:23:02 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Joe Kelsey Message-ID: <20030617162302.GC584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> <1055804020.79093.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> <3EEF19D5.9040706@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617154208.GA584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <3EEF3883.1080500@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617160141.GB584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <3EEF3E10.8030205@mail.flyingcroc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EEF3E10.8030205@mail.flyingcroc.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tools to modify shared libraries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:23:04 -0000 On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:13:04AM -0700, Joe Kelsey wrote: > >>>It's more constructive to fix the linker than it is to patch the > >>>ELF files created by it. The linker knows which libraries are > >>>really needed and should be able to create the minimal list of > >>>(true) dependencies. > >> > >>This cannot be accomplished by fixing the linker. The issue is one of > >>attempting to use a *linux* shared library in a native application. > > > > > >Linux uses the same linker (GNU ld). Fixing the linker will have the > >same effect on Linux as it will have on FreeBSD and hence will prevent > >unnecessary dependencies in Linux libraries to Linux libraries and > >thus remove the need to patch ELF files in the long run. > > > > The problem cannot be resolved by "fixing" ld. The problem arises from > people who specify unnecessary libraries on their ld command lines. ld > cannot tell the difference between a required library and an unnecessary > library at link time. Yes it can. Symbol resolution is a fundamental part in linking. Hence, the linker has all the information it needs to filter the gratuitously long list of libraries programmers tend to give it and keep the libraries that actually contributed to the link. -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 09:31:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F6037B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net (gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net [207.246.128.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AD743F3F; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:31:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joek@mail.flyingcroc.net) Received: from mail.flyingcroc.net (zircon.staff.flyingcroc.net [207.246.150.92])h5HGVsAv012131; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EEF427A.1080106@mail.flyingcroc.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:31:54 -0700 From: Joe Kelsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030515 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel Moolenaar References: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> <1055804020.79093.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> <3EEF19D5.9040706@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617154208.GA584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <3EEF3883.1080500@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617160141.GB584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <3EEF3E10.8030205@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617162302.GC584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> In-Reply-To: <20030617162302.GC584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tools to modify shared libraries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:31:56 -0000 Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > Yes it can. Symbol resolution is a fundamental part in linking. > Hence, the linker has all the information it needs to filter the > gratuitously long list of libraries programmers tend to give it > and keep the libraries that actually contributed to the link. > I know of no way to do this in the case of shared libraries. When linking shared libraries, the linker *cannot* resolve any references to other shared libraries other than list them in the .dynamic section with some sort of tag such as DT_NEEDED. Please explain to me how the linker can prune the shared library list at link time. Sorry that this has veered off into a dead-end. I promise to cut the mailing list from any further discussions on this dead-end thread. /Joe From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 09:51:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131B437B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.BAYAREA.NET [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1513843F85; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:51:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.201]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HGpWDZ055821; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:51:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HGpWst000886; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:51:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5HGpW98000885; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:51:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:51:32 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Joe Kelsey Message-ID: <20030617165132.GE584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> <1055804020.79093.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> <3EEF19D5.9040706@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617154208.GA584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <3EEF3883.1080500@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617160141.GB584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <3EEF3E10.8030205@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617162302.GC584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <3EEF427A.1080106@mail.flyingcroc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EEF427A.1080106@mail.flyingcroc.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tools to modify shared libraries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:51:34 -0000 On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:31:54AM -0700, Joe Kelsey wrote: > Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > >Yes it can. Symbol resolution is a fundamental part in linking. > >Hence, the linker has all the information it needs to filter the > >gratuitously long list of libraries programmers tend to give it > >and keep the libraries that actually contributed to the link. > > > > I know of no way to do this in the case of shared libraries. When > linking shared libraries, the linker *cannot* resolve any references to > other shared libraries other than list them in the .dynamic section with > some sort of tag such as DT_NEEDED. Please explain to me how the linker > can prune the shared library list at link time. If a symbol is unresolved, it must be present in one of the libraries on the link line. If the symbol is in an archive library, you pull in the code. Otherwise, if it's in a shared library, you record the dependency on that library. In the end you have no unresolved symbols, all code from archives has been linked in and you have a complete list of dependencies that is a subset of the libraries given on the command line. For partial linking (incremental linking) the list of unresolved symbols does not have to be empty. -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 10:02:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0580A37B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h132-197-179-27.gte.com (h132-197-179-27.gte.com [132.197.179.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D1B43F75; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:02:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ak03@gte.com) Received: from kanpc.gte.com (ak03@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h5HH2ae4002902; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:02:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ak03@kanpc.gte.com) Received: (from ak03@localhost) by kanpc.gte.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5HH2aZ0002901; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:02:36 -0400 From: Alexander Kabaev To: Marcel Moolenaar Message-Id: <20030617130236.7c683e4c.ak03@gte.com> In-Reply-To: <20030617160141.GB584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> <1055804020.79093.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> <3EEF19D5.9040706@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617154208.GA584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <3EEF3883.1080500@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617160141.GB584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> Organization: Verizon Data Services X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.0claws25 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Joe Kelsey Subject: Re: Tools to modify shared libraries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:02:41 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:01:41 -0700 Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:49:23AM -0700, Joe Kelsey wrote: > Linux uses the same linker (GNU ld). Fixing the linker will have the > same effect on Linux as it will have on FreeBSD and hence will prevent > unnecessary dependencies in Linux libraries to Linux libraries and > thus remove the need to patch ELF files in the long run. > LD putting a library in DT_NEEDED regardless of whether or not library exports any required symbols as long as it appears on command line is a feature, not a bug AFAIK. -- Alexander Kabaev From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 10:48:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5286537B404; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:48:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.BAYAREA.NET [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14C843F75; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:48:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.201]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HHmYDZ056139; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:48:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HHmYst001133; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:48:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5HHmY1O001132; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:48:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:48:34 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Alexander Kabaev Message-ID: <20030617174834.GA1012@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> <1055804020.79093.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> <3EEF19D5.9040706@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617154208.GA584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <3EEF3883.1080500@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617160141.GB584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030617130236.7c683e4c.ak03@gte.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030617130236.7c683e4c.ak03@gte.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Joe Kelsey Subject: Re: Tools to modify shared libraries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:48:36 -0000 On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:02:36PM -0400, Alexander Kabaev wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:01:41 -0700 > Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:49:23AM -0700, Joe Kelsey wrote: > > Linux uses the same linker (GNU ld). Fixing the linker will have the > > same effect on Linux as it will have on FreeBSD and hence will prevent > > unnecessary dependencies in Linux libraries to Linux libraries and > > thus remove the need to patch ELF files in the long run. > > > > LD putting a library in DT_NEEDED regardless of whether or not library > exports any required symbols as long as it appears on command line is a > feature, not a bug AFAIK. It's a bug because DT_NEEDED serves the purpose of recording library dependencies. Any library that does not contribute to symbol resolution is by definition not a dependency. Hence, its presence in DT_NEEDED only makes the dependency information wrong. Dependency information that's wrong is untrustworthy and unreliable and thus unusable. Hence, a bug. Immediate consequences of broken dependency information is the increased startup time of shared binaries, the restriction in use of libraries in cases where they can be used and the obstruction in replacing libraries with different implementations by possibly causing artificial conflicts due to unnecessary loading of libraries. Only explicit user directives should allow adding libraries to DT_NEEDED regardless of whether there's actually a dependency. -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 11:03:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E54937B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8907643F93 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:03:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5HI3SVI059315; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:03:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h5HI3SPX059314; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:03:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200306171803.h5HI3SPX059314@apollo.backplane.com> To: Andrew Gould References: <20030616221146.12211.qmail@web13406.mail.yahoo.com> cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" cc: Andrew Sparrow cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvd+rw+r for FreeBSD -- Progress but no success X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:03:30 -0000 Did you format the DVD+RW ? DVD+RW disks have to be formatted exactly once before you can burn them. Once formatted you can burn them over and over again. See the dvd+rw-format program. If that doesn't work run dvd+rw-mediainfo with the DVD+RW in the drive. I'm not an expert but the 500A does work for me with DVD+RW disks. -Matt :Update: Progress without success : :I've recompiled my system and kernel with atapicam. :Executing 'camcontrol devlist' results in a listing of :my dvd burner as a scsi device. Once I changed :'/dev/acd0c' to '/dev/cd0c' in /etc/fstab, I was able :to mount a cdrom in /dev/cd0c to /cdrom. : :I executed the following as root ('./testfile' is a :short text file.): : :>growisofs -Z /dev/cd0c -R -J ./testfile : :Resutls: :Executing 'mkisofs -R -J testfile | builtin_dd :of=/dev/pass0 obs=32k seek=0' ::-[ LBA=0h, SENSE KEY=5h/ASC=30h,ASCQ=10h ] ::-( write failed: Invalid argument : :Any ideas? : :Thanks, : :Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 11:09:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E1437B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580FA43F93; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:09:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h5HI8wKF019321; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:08:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:08:58 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <20030617180858.GL64929@dan.emsphone.com> References: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> <1055804020.79093.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> <3EEF19D5.9040706@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617154208.GA584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <3EEF3883.1080500@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617160141.GB584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030617130236.7c683e4c.ak03@gte.com> <20030617174834.GA1012@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030617174834.GA1012@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Joe Kelsey Subject: Re: Tools to modify shared libraries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:09:02 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 17), Marcel Moolenaar said: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:02:36PM -0400, Alexander Kabaev wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:01:41 -0700 > > Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:49:23AM -0700, Joe Kelsey wrote: Linux > > > uses the same linker (GNU ld). Fixing the linker will have the > > > same effect on Linux as it will have on FreeBSD and hence will > > > prevent unnecessary dependencies in Linux libraries to Linux > > > libraries and thus remove the need to patch ELF files in the long > > > run. > > > > > > > LD putting a library in DT_NEEDED regardless of whether or not > > library exports any required symbols as long as it appears on > > command line is a feature, not a bug AFAIK. > > It's a bug because DT_NEEDED serves the purpose of recording library > dependencies. Any library that does not contribute to symbol > resolution is by definition not a dependency. Hence, its presence in > DT_NEEDED only makes the dependency information wrong. Dependency > information that's wrong is untrustworthy and unreliable and thus > unusable. Hence, a bug. Immediate consequences of broken dependency > information is the increased startup time of shared binaries, the > restriction in use of libraries in cases where they can be used and > the obstruction in replacing libraries with different implementations > by possibly causing artificial conflicts due to unnecessary loading > of libraries. > > Only explicit user directives should allow adding libraries to DT_NEEDED > regardless of whether there's actually a dependency. Dependencies can change after a program is linked, though. How about the contrived case of a program needing the openpty function, so -lutil is linked in. Then 6 months later openpty is moved to libc, making the dependency on libutil unneeded. The end result is the same as if a new program is unnecessarily linked with -lutil, but cannot be "fixed" with ld because at the time it was linked, the first program actually did need libutil. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 11:30:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B628C37B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.BAYAREA.NET [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1EF43FB1; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:30:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.201]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HIUXDZ056366; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:30:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HIUXst001424; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:30:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5HIUWrN001423; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:30:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:30:32 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Dan Nelson Message-ID: <20030617183032.GA1375@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> <1055804020.79093.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> <3EEF19D5.9040706@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617154208.GA584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <3EEF3883.1080500@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030617160141.GB584@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030617130236.7c683e4c.ak03@gte.com> <20030617174834.GA1012@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030617180858.GL64929@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030617180858.GL64929@dan.emsphone.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Joe Kelsey Subject: Re: Tools to modify shared libraries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:30:58 -0000 On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:08:58PM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote: > > Dependencies can change after a program is linked, though. Only dependencies on the implementation, not the interface. > How about > the contrived case of a program needing the openpty function, so -lutil > is linked in. Then 6 months later openpty is moved to libc, making the > dependency on libutil unneeded. The end result is the same as if a new > program is unnecessarily linked with -lutil, but cannot be "fixed" with > ld because at the time it was linked, the first program actually did > need libutil. It's a bad example. The moment you remove openpty() from libutil, you change its interface and thus are required to bump the library version. The binary that was linked against libutil at the time openpty() was still part of its interface will not have a dependency on the new libutil, but on the old libutil by virtue of the version information. Likewise, the addition of openpty() to libc requires a version bump in its strictest sense (both backward *and* forward compatibility), but is in practice not done because we don't guarantee forward compatibility. Hence, DT_NEEDED is still accurate, but due to practical reasons of not bumping the libc version, openpty() can now be found in both libraries and the first occurrence is taken. This can abstractly speaking be libc, which would then in theory make the dependency on libutil unnecessary. This however is not a concern for the linker, as it is a glitch caused beyond the scope of the linker (ie our choice to not provide forward compatibility in combination with our choice to be sloppy). -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 11:40:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9470137B408 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from transbay.net (mail.transbay.net [209.133.53.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF5C43FBF for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:40:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from computing@kpfa.org) Received: from twentytwo (zoc-int-brk27.zocalo.net [157.22.9.14] (may be forged)) by transbay.net (8.11.6p2/8.11.2) with SMTP id h5HIecn04358 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20030617114201.00972b48@transbay.net> X-Sender: k-comput@transbay.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:42:01 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: computing@kpfa.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: FreeBSD 3Ware RAID Controller support X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:40:41 -0000 The 3Ware 7500-4LP is supported on FreeBSD 4.7 as /dev/twe0. The /usr/ports/sysutils/3dm port has been working flawlessly. (It provides a web-based interface into the card.) Dan Albers computing@kpfa.org (510)848-6767 x211 === Measure twice, cut once. === From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 11:56:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4430A37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web13404.mail.yahoo.com (web13404.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C76BC43FE0 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:56:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030617185637.67332.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.204.21.207] by web13404.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:56:37 PDT Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:56:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Gould To: Matthew Dillon In-Reply-To: <200306171803.h5HI3SPX059314@apollo.backplane.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" cc: Andrew Sparrow cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvd+rw+r for FreeBSD -- Success! X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:56:38 -0000 Thanks, that did the trick. Andrew --- Matthew Dillon wrote: > Did you format the DVD+RW ? DVD+RW disks have to > be formatted exactly > once before you can burn them. Once formatted > you can burn them over > and over again. See the dvd+rw-format program. > > If that doesn't work run dvd+rw-mediainfo with > the DVD+RW in the drive. > I'm not an expert but the 500A does work for me > with DVD+RW disks. > > -Matt > > :Update: Progress without success > : > :I've recompiled my system and kernel with atapicam. > :Executing 'camcontrol devlist' results in a listing > of > :my dvd burner as a scsi device. Once I changed > :'/dev/acd0c' to '/dev/cd0c' in /etc/fstab, I was > able > :to mount a cdrom in /dev/cd0c to /cdrom. > : > :I executed the following as root ('./testfile' is a > :short text file.): > : > :>growisofs -Z /dev/cd0c -R -J ./testfile > : > :Resutls: > :Executing 'mkisofs -R -J testfile | builtin_dd > :of=/dev/pass0 obs=32k seek=0' > ::-[ LBA=0h, SENSE KEY=5h/ASC=30h,ASCQ=10h ] > ::-( write failed: Invalid argument > : > :Any ideas? > : > :Thanks, > : > :Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 12:58:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F5537B40D for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web13404.mail.yahoo.com (web13404.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A20E43FBD for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:58:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030617195838.77758.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.204.21.207] by web13404.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:58:38 PDT Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:58:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Gould To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200306171803.h5HI3SPX059314@apollo.backplane.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" cc: Andrew Sparrow cc: Matthew Dillon Subject: Re: dvd+rw+r for FreeBSD -- Recap of successful steps X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:58:43 -0000 To recap the results of recent emails regarding the use of dvd+rw-tools on FreeBSD: I'm running FreeBSD 4.8-Stable with a Sony DRU-500A as my only CD/DVD device. My computer has an Athlon Thunderbird 900 with 1.5G RAM. 0. Be the root user, by whatever means you use. 1. Get dvd+rw-tools-5.8.4.4.4.tar.gz from: http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/tools/ 2. Extract the file, 'cd' into the directory and execute 'make install'. 3. Make sure you have mkisofs 2.0. If not, install it from the ports. 4. If you're going to burn CD's, install cdrecord. (I successfully burned a CD.) 5. Make sure you kernel is compiled with: #ATA and ATAPI devices device atapicam #SCSI peripherals device scbus device da device cd device pass 6. Change the cdrom's entry in /etc/fstab. With my configuration, I changed /dev/acd0c to /dev/cd0c. Try to mount a cdrom. 7. If scsi passthru is working each of the following commands should list your CD/DVD device: camcontrol devlist cdrecord --scanbus 8. Format new DVD+RW's by executing: dvd+rw-format -leadout [device] 9. Burn each DVD+RW's first image with: growisofs -Z [device] [mkisofs options] [files] To burn all files in the current directory I used: growisofs -Z /dev/cd0c -r -l * 10. To burn additional files to the DVD+RW, replace '-Z' with '-M' in step 9. Best of luck; and a big "THANKS!" to everyone who helped me out! Andrew Gould --- Matthew Dillon wrote: > Did you format the DVD+RW ? DVD+RW disks have to > be formatted exactly > once before you can burn them. Once formatted > you can burn them over > and over again. See the dvd+rw-format program. > > If that doesn't work run dvd+rw-mediainfo with > the DVD+RW in the drive. > I'm not an expert but the 500A does work for me > with DVD+RW disks. > > -Matt > > :Update: Progress without success > : > :I've recompiled my system and kernel with atapicam. > :Executing 'camcontrol devlist' results in a listing > of > :my dvd burner as a scsi device. Once I changed > :'/dev/acd0c' to '/dev/cd0c' in /etc/fstab, I was > able > :to mount a cdrom in /dev/cd0c to /cdrom. > : > :I executed the following as root ('./testfile' is a > :short text file.): > : > :>growisofs -Z /dev/cd0c -R -J ./testfile > : > :Resutls: > :Executing 'mkisofs -R -J testfile | builtin_dd > :of=/dev/pass0 obs=32k seek=0' > ::-[ LBA=0h, SENSE KEY=5h/ASC=30h,ASCQ=10h ] > ::-( write failed: Invalid argument > : > :Any ideas? > : > :Thanks, > : > :Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 13:10:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DF737B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A015D43F75 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:10:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5HKAiVI059990; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:10:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h5HKAi7B059989; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:10:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200306172010.h5HKAi7B059989@apollo.backplane.com> To: Andrew Gould References: <20030617195838.77758.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com> cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" cc: Andrew Sparrow cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvd+rw+r for FreeBSD -- Recap of successful steps X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:10:45 -0000 :9. Burn each DVD+RW's first image with: : growisofs -Z [device] [mkisofs options] [files] : : To burn all files in the current directory I :used: : growisofs -Z /dev/cd0c -r -l * : :10. To burn additional files to the DVD+RW, replace :'-Z' with '-M' in step 9. Also note that you can burn a .iso directly using the form: growisofs -Z device= And also note that when using -M (multi session support) with DVD+R and DVD-R disks that you are limited to 153 sessions on DVD+R and 2000+ on DVD-R, plus of course each session introduces a gap on the DVD and wastes a little extra space because of that. So don't just burn one file per session. If you intend to burn a lot of files burn as many files per session as you can. :Best of luck; and a big "THANKS!" to everyone who :helped me out! : :Andrew Gould I'm glad you got it working! For myself it's nice to be able to make permanent archives again. CDRs just don't have enough storage. -Matt Matthew Dillon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 13:46:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C4537B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postal2.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E387243FA3 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:46:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP (SSL) id MUA74016; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:46:49 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id EDCDB5D08; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:46:47 -0700 (PDT) To: Andrew Gould In-Reply-To: Message from Andrew Gould <20030617195838.77758.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:46:47 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20030617204647.EDCDB5D08@ptavv.es.net> cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" cc: Andrew Sparrow cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: Matthew Dillon Subject: Re: dvd+rw+r for FreeBSD -- Recap of successful steps X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:46:51 -0000 > Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:58:38 -0700 (PDT) > From: Andrew Gould > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > To recap the results of recent emails regarding the > use of dvd+rw-tools on FreeBSD: > > I'm running FreeBSD 4.8-Stable with a Sony DRU-500A as > my only CD/DVD device. My computer has an Athlon > Thunderbird 900 with 1.5G RAM. > > 0. Be the root user, by whatever means you use. > > 1. Get dvd+rw-tools-5.8.4.4.4.tar.gz from: > http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/tools/ > > 2. Extract the file, 'cd' into the directory and > execute 'make install'. > > 3. Make sure you have mkisofs 2.0. If not, install it > from the ports. > > 4. If you're going to burn CD's, install cdrecord. (I > successfully burned a CD.) > > 5. Make sure you kernel is compiled with: > #ATA and ATAPI devices > device atapicam > > #SCSI peripherals > device scbus > device da > device cd > device pass > > 6. Change the cdrom's entry in /etc/fstab. With my > configuration, I changed /dev/acd0c to /dev/cd0c. Try > to mount a cdrom. > > 7. If scsi passthru is working each of the following > commands should list your CD/DVD device: > camcontrol devlist > cdrecord --scanbus > > 8. Format new DVD+RW's by executing: > dvd+rw-format -leadout [device] > > 9. Burn each DVD+RW's first image with: > growisofs -Z [device] [mkisofs options] [files] > > To burn all files in the current directory I > used: > growisofs -Z /dev/cd0c -r -l * > > 10. To burn additional files to the DVD+RW, replace > '-Z' with '-M' in step 9. In addition to all of this, I would strongly suggest that you try: hw.ata.atapi_dma="1" # Run the CD-ROM/DVD in DMA mode in /bvoot/loader.conf. While Soren has warned that lots of ATAPI CDs don't work right in DMA, I have found it is a major win and about the only way to playa DVD on a system and have not had a problem with any CD or DVD on any of my systems. YMMV. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 14:04:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BB837B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ip166.usw12.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.253.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3955543FA3 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:04:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ran.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19SNd1-0005yh-DG for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:04:31 -0700 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:04:31 -0700 To: FreeBSD Stable Message-Id: Subject: xterm screen restore X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:04:33 -0000 when i exit more, vi, ... i like to have the window restored to the way it was before i entered more, vi, ... i used to effect this by a hack to the termcap data, but have lost the hack. what am i missing here? randy From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 14:04:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C366037B408 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pit.databus.com (p70-227.acedsl.com [66.114.70.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C5143F85 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:04:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barney@pit.databus.com) Received: from pit.databus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pit.databus.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HL4qNY070672 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:04:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from barney@pit.databus.com) Received: (from barney@localhost) by pit.databus.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5HL4qqU070671 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:04:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:04:52 -0400 From: Barney Wolff To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030617210452.GA70520@pit.databus.com> References: <200306171803.h5HI3SPX059314@apollo.backplane.com> <20030617195838.77758.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030617195838.77758.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.33 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: Re: dvd+rw+r for FreeBSD -- Recap of successful steps X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:04:54 -0000 Does anybody know if this all works with a NEC ND-1100A? It appears to be half the price of the Sony DRU510A with the same specs, unless I'm missing something. Thanks, Barney From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 14:14:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BAE37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6533743F93 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:14:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from rushlight (allbery@allbery.dsl.telerama.com [205.201.8.182]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h5HLEa316433; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:14:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon S. Allbery " KF8NH To: Randy Bush In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1055884479.83103.11.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Date: 17 Jun 2003 17:14:39 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: xterm screen restore X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:14:45 -0000 On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 17:04, Randy Bush wrote: > when i exit more, vi, ... i like to have the window restored to > the way it was before i entered more, vi, ... i used to effect > this by a hack to the termcap data, but have lost the hack. what > am i missing here? You want the switch to/from alternate screen escapes in the ti= and te= entries. Standard: \E[?47h XFree86: \E[?1049h (this one clears the target and remembers the cursor position in each screen; XFree86 4.0 and later only) Also make sure the titeInhibit resource isn't set to true, as this causes xterm to ignore the alternate screen (arguably it's misnamed). -- brandon s allbery [openafs/solaris/japh/freebsd] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [linux/heimdal/too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university [better check the oblivious first -ke6sls] From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 15:32:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DDE37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ip166.usw12.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.253.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA9D43F93 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:32:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ran.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19SP0J-0008KQ-EE; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:32:39 -0700 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:32:38 -0700 To: "Brandon S. Allbery " KF8NH References: <1055884479.83103.11.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> Message-Id: cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: xterm screen restore X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:32:40 -0000 >> when i exit more, vi, ... i like to have the window restored to >> the way it was before i entered more, vi, ... i used to effect >> this by a hack to the termcap data, but have lost the hack. what >> am i missing here? for the archive *** termcap.FCS Tue Jun 17 15:10:46 2003 --- termcap Tue Jun 17 15:14:15 2003 *************** *** 299,305 **** adm3|3|lsi adm3:\ :do=^J:am:le=^H:bs:cl=^Z:li#24:ma=^K^P:co#80: xterm|xterm-color|X11 terminal emulator:\ ! :ti@:te@:tc=xterm-xfree86: # # DESCRIPTION: # This file describes capabilities of various terminals, as needed by --- 299,305 ---- adm3|3|lsi adm3:\ :do=^J:am:le=^H:bs:cl=^Z:li#24:ma=^K^P:co#80: xterm|xterm-color|X11 terminal emulator:\ ! :tc=xterm-xfree86: # # DESCRIPTION: # This file describes capabilities of various terminals, as needed by randy From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 15:48:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89AA37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caduceus.jf.intel.com (fmr06.intel.com [134.134.136.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB0E43FBF for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:48:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ed@intel.com) Received: from petasus.jf.intel.com (petasus.jf.intel.com [10.7.209.6]) 2003/05/22 21:17:36 rfjohns1 Exp $) with ESMTP id h5HMgru03470; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:42:53 GMT Received: from spielplatz.dp.intel.com ([172.24.235.92]) 2003/05/22 21:18:01 rfjohns1 Exp $) with ESMTP id h5HMhhu04234; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:43:43 GMT Received: from spielplatz.dp.intel.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h5HMmHRq086735; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:48:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ed@spielplatz.dp.intel.com) Received: (from ed@localhost) by spielplatz.dp.intel.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h5HMmHqf086734; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:48:17 -0700 From: Ed To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030617224817.GA86677@spielplatz.dp.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Message-Flag: This message brought to you by Ed's mutt e-mail client program running on FreeBSD 4.8. X-Ed-Was-Here: Thanks for looking! cc: ed@braatens.org Subject: How to make a customized, unattended install for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:48:20 -0000 --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would like to customize our store-bought, bootable FreeBSD CD=20 so that it does a non-interactive (or minimally interactive ;-)=20 install. =20 The interim solution we've devised has our lab execution=20 techs booting from a CD and then using the Sysinstall "Load config=20 file" menu option to load an "install.cfg" file from a floppy. =20 We'd like to eliminate this step by having Sysinstall read the=20 install.cfg from the bootable CD. I've found other folks asking=20 the same question, but to date no answers...=20 Any tips or pointers would be greatly appreciated! --=20 Ed Braaten DuPont Compatibility Validation Lab Intel Corp, DuPont, WA +1 (253) 371-2515 --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+75qwy28aAE4M6ZwRApiMAKDNhR6Joe9gVagrX3JTwSuGkuneEgCcDoY+ d0wRNT8v+uWVPFL3Xr37dBs= =8Ral -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 22:27:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EBE37B404 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.eunet.yu (smtp2.EUnet.yu [194.247.192.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDE943FB1 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:27:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kolicz@eunet.yu) Received: (from root@localhost) by smtp2.eunet.yu (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) id h5I5RZo05195 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG.KAV; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:27:35 +0200 Received: from localhost.localdomain (P-2.38.eunet.yu [213.240.2.38]) by smtp2.eunet.yu (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5I5RXm01713 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:27:34 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Zoran Kolic To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:09:44 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200306171709.44147.kolicz@eunet.yu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp2.eunet.yu id h5I5RXm01713 Subject: ipfw2 docs for dinamic rules X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: kolicz@eunet.yu List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 05:27:39 -0000 Dear FreeBSD! I would like to use custom rules file with ipfw2. My computer goes to the net via dial-up modem and kernel ppp type. Since I don't have experience with dinamic rules, but want to, reading tutorials stranded me somewhere in the middle. In this moment I need recall of known links to docs about topic. Provider gives new address every time when connected. One machine. Via ppp... And most of all: dinamic rules. It was thread some months ago, but cannot find it. If someone could remem- ber those links, would be appreciate. Best regards Zoran Kolic kolicz@eunet.yu From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 01:24:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6E937B401; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 01:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6340843FE3; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 01:24:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5I8P7KX024021; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:25:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5I8P6r7024020; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:25:06 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:25:06 +0200 From: Stijn Hoop To: Joe Kelsey Message-ID: <20030618082506.GA23083@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> <1055804020.79093.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> <3EEF19D5.9040706@mail.flyingcroc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EEF19D5.9040706@mail.flyingcroc.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tools to modify shared libraries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 08:24:56 -0000 --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:38:29AM -0700, Joe Kelsey wrote: > Basically, what I want to do is remove several entries from the *front*= =20 > of the dynamic section. Actually, I would settle for just removing all= =20 > of a certain tag (such as DT_NEEDED) from the dynamic section. I'm very interested, having a working Flash 6 would be great! Isn't there a way to change these into bogus dependencies, or dependencies on a FreeBSD shared object or something? --Stijn --=20 In the force if Yoda's so strong, construct a sentence with words in the proper order then why can't he? --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+8CHiY3r/tLQmfWcRAuAjAJ9lOBtAnLKlrR7SIBQ+AUta5HyE5wCdFpEf FufWxxVUd3/t3Rsx9i4gGbc= =7zsU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 02:55:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F4D37B401 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 02:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stanley.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (stanley.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.137.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7298943F85 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 02:55:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from neuf@lrs.eei.uni-erlangen.de) Received: from lrs.eei.uni-erlangen.de (kirk.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.137.140])LAA15269; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:55:25 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: neuf@lrs.eei.uni-erlangen.de Message-ID: <3EF0370D.CF06CFC@lrs.eei.uni-erlangen.de> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:55:25 +0200 From: Harald Neuffer Organization: Lehrstuhl fuer Rechnergestuetzten Schaltungsentwurf X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed , stable@freebsd.org References: <20030617224817.GA86677@spielplatz.dp.intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: ed@braatens.org Subject: Re: How to make a customized, unattended install for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:55:33 -0000 Ed wrote: > > I would like to customize our store-bought, bootable FreeBSD CD > so that it does a non-interactive (or minimally interactive ;-) > install. > > The interim solution we've devised has our lab execution > techs booting from a CD and then using the Sysinstall "Load config > file" menu option to load an "install.cfg" file from a floppy. > We'd like to eliminate this step by having Sysinstall read the > install.cfg from the bootable CD. I've found other folks asking > the same question, but to date no answers... > > Any tips or pointers would be greatly appreciated! Hi, have think about booting and installing your FreeBSD machines over the net. Have a look to http://matt.simerson.net/computing/freebsd.netboot.shtml I assume you have Intel network cards in your computers, thus they should boot via PXE. Hope this helps, Harald From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 06:41:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B874D37B401; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 06:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net (gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net [207.246.128.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04EA43FCB; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 06:41:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joek@mail.flyingcroc.net) Received: from mail.flyingcroc.net (zircon.staff.flyingcroc.net [207.246.150.92])h5IDf2Av015724; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 06:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EF06BEE.8030601@mail.flyingcroc.net> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 06:41:02 -0700 From: Joe Kelsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030515 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stijn Hoop References: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> <1055804020.79093.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> <3EEF19D5.9040706@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030618082506.GA23083@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> In-Reply-To: <20030618082506.GA23083@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tools to modify shared libraries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:41:07 -0000 Stijn Hoop wrote: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:38:29AM -0700, Joe Kelsey wrote: > >>Basically, what I want to do is remove several entries from the *front* >>of the dynamic section. Actually, I would settle for just removing all >>of a certain tag (such as DT_NEEDED) from the dynamic section. > > > I'm very interested, having a working Flash 6 would be great! > > Isn't there a way to change these into bogus dependencies, or dependencies > on a FreeBSD shared object or something? No. I removed the dependencies by manually editing the .so with emacs... Now, here is a list of the undefined symbols beginning with __: 598: 00000000 79 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT UND __write@GLIBC_2.0 (4) 939: 00000000 231 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT UND __assert_fail@GLIBC_2.0 (2) 1129: 00000000 109 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT UND __errno_location@GLIBC_2.0 (4) 1656: 00000000 172 FUNC WEAK DEFAULT UND __deregister_frame_info 1703: 00000000 815 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT UND __xstat@GLIBC_2.0 (2) 1952: 00000000 815 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT UND __fxstat@GLIBC_2.0 (2) 2133: 00000000 4 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT UND __ctype_toupper@GLIBC_2.0 (2) 2763: 00000000 157 FUNC WEAK DEFAULT UND __cxa_finalize@GLIBC_2.1.3 (9) 3161: 00000000 4 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT UND __ctype_b@GLIBC_2.0 (2) 3319: 00000000 1642 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT UND __strtoul_internal@GLIBC_2.0 (2) 3376: 00000000 26 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT UND __terminate 3624: 00000000 129 FUNC WEAK DEFAULT UND __register_frame_info 3716: 00000000 0 NOTYPE WEAK DEFAULT UND __gmon_start__ The old flash library had these symbols: 34: 00000000 0 NOTYPE GLOBAL DEFAULT UND __builtin_vec_new 36: 00000000 0 NOTYPE GLOBAL DEFAULT UND __builtin_vec_delete 1163: 00000000 0 NOTYPE GLOBAL DEFAULT UND __errno_location flashpluginwrapper provides the two __builtin references. I do not think we need to provide the WEAK symbols. We do need to provide the others, specifically __write, __ctype_toupper, __ctype_b, __assert_failure, __xstate, __fxstate, and __strtoul_internal. Anyone want to start modifying flashpluginwrapper? /Joe From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 07:01:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B7D37B401; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from k6.locore.ca (k6.locore.ca [198.96.117.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39B343F85; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jake@k6.locore.ca) Received: from k6.locore.ca (localhost.locore.ca [127.0.0.1]) by k6.locore.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5IE1Su3063225; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:01:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jake@k6.locore.ca) Received: (from jake@localhost) by k6.locore.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5IE1IjQ063224; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:01:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:01:18 -0400 From: Jake Burkholder To: Joe Kelsey Message-ID: <20030618140118.GA63039@locore.ca> References: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EEE4717.2090409@mail.flyingcroc.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tools to modify shared libraries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:01:09 -0000 Apparently, On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 03:39:19PM -0700, Joe Kelsey said words to the effect of; > Has anyone ever come across general-purpose tools for modifying shared > libraries? What I want to do is to edit the list of "needed" shared > libraries to correct the common mistakes that developers make in > creating shared objects with large lists of shared libraries. > > Specifically, I want to modify linux-flashplugin6/libflashplayer.so to > remove all of the idiotic references to shared libraries that the Flash > 6 developers added. Since this is a plugin for Mozilla, it does not > need to specify any extra shared libraries especially since Mozilla has > already loaded all of them! > > I want to do this to make Flash 6 work with flashpluginwrapper. If I > can remove the list of needed shared libraries from the DYNAMIC section > of the shared library, everyone will be that much closer to a real flash > 6 plugin for BSD. I've needed to do similar things to remove the interp section from static binaries with full dynamic symbol tables. I just wrote a C program that mmapped the elf file, parsed the headers and changed the p_type of the PT_INTERP program header entries to PT_NULL. You may be able to do something similar by changing the d_tag of the DT_NEEDED entries to some value larger than DT_COUNT so they will be ignored by the dynamic linker. Jake From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 10:47:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA1E37B404 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pyroxene.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC7B43F93 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:47:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simian.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by pyroxene.sentex.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5IHlm8D038722; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:47:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030618134656.081a0380@209.112.4.2> X-Sender: mdtpop@209.112.4.2 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:48:25 -0400 To: Harald Neuffer , Ed , stable@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <3EF0370D.CF06CFC@lrs.eei.uni-erlangen.de> References: <20030617224817.GA86677@spielplatz.dp.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: By Sentex Communications (lava/20020517) cc: ed@braatens.org Subject: Re: How to make a customized, unattended install for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:47:54 -0000 Another option that might work for you is ghost4unix (http://rfhs8012.fh-regensburg.de/~feyrer/g4u/). If you have a lot of identical systems to create, it works quite well. ---Mike At 11:55 AM 18/06/2003 +0200, Harald Neuffer wrote: >Ed wrote: > > > > I would like to customize our store-bought, bootable FreeBSD CD > > so that it does a non-interactive (or minimally interactive ;-) > > install. > > > > The interim solution we've devised has our lab execution > > techs booting from a CD and then using the Sysinstall "Load config > > file" menu option to load an "install.cfg" file from a floppy. > > We'd like to eliminate this step by having Sysinstall read the > > install.cfg from the bootable CD. I've found other folks asking > > the same question, but to date no answers... > > > > Any tips or pointers would be greatly appreciated! >Hi, > >have think about booting and installing your FreeBSD machines over the >net. Have a look to >http://matt.simerson.net/computing/freebsd.netboot.shtml > >I assume you have Intel network cards in your computers, thus they >should boot via PXE. > >Hope this helps, > >Harald >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 11:06:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C6837B404 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.enst.fr (enst.enst.fr [137.194.2.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82D243F3F for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:06:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from beyssac@enst.fr) Received: from bofh.enst.fr (bofh.enst.fr [137.194.32.191]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (Client CN "bofh.enst.fr", Issuer "ENST CA" (verified OK)) by smtp2.enst.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7956453B6C; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:05:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from enst.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.enst.fr (8.12.9/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h5II5fhQ040686 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:05:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from beyssac@enst.fr) Received: (from beyssac@localhost) by enst.fr (8.12.9/8.12.7/Submit) id h5II5fmf040685; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:05:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:05:41 +0200 From: Pierre Beyssac To: Ed Message-ID: <20030618200541.A40468@bofh.enst.fr> References: <20030617224817.GA86677@spielplatz.dp.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20030617224817.GA86677@spielplatz.dp.intel.com>; from Ed.Braaten@intel.com on Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 03:48:17PM -0700 cc: ed@braatens.org cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to make a customized, unattended install for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:06:03 -0000 On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 03:48:17PM -0700, Ed wrote: > The interim solution we've devised has our lab execution > techs booting from a CD and then using the Sysinstall "Load config > file" menu option to load an "install.cfg" file from a floppy. > We'd like to eliminate this step by having Sysinstall read the > install.cfg from the bootable CD. I've found other folks asking > the same question, but to date no answers... sysinstall tries to read /install.cfg when starting, so you just need to put your customized install.cfg on the gzipped MFS root filesystem where sysinstall itself resides. I'm using this from a PXE boot but it should work from a CD as well. -- Pierre Beyssac pb@enst.fr From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 11:42:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B1637B401 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.enst.fr (reloaded.enst.fr [137.194.2.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7BF43FBD for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:42:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from beyssac@enst.fr) Received: from bofh.enst.fr (bofh.enst.fr [137.194.32.191]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (Client CN "bofh.enst.fr", Issuer "ENST CA" (verified OK)) by smtp2.enst.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7801387; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:42:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from enst.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.enst.fr (8.12.9/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h5IIgAhQ041465 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:42:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from beyssac@enst.fr) Received: (from beyssac@localhost) by enst.fr (8.12.9/8.12.7/Submit) id h5IIg9NY041464; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:42:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:42:09 +0200 From: Pierre Beyssac To: brian@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20030618204209.A41284@bofh.enst.fr> References: <200306152041.h5FKfoQo002747@apollo.backplane.com> <20030616125646.S77050@taz3.hyperreal.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20030616125646.S77050@taz3.hyperreal.org>; from brian@hyperreal.org on Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 12:58:54PM -0700 cc: Matthew Dillon cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvd+rw-tools ported to FreeBSD (Sony 500A DVD[+/-]R[W] support) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:42:13 -0000 On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 12:58:54PM -0700, brian@hyperreal.org wrote: > that step, but it's good to see more tools. What would really be nice is > a working dvdauthor port - the one that's there has missing dependencies > and certain parts of the toolchain (like mpeg2desc) that just didn't work. Actually I've never managed to use dvdauthor with mpeg2desc, that's why I didn't put mpeg2desc in the dependencies for the port. I just use "transcode -y mpeg,toolame -b 224 -E 48000 -F d -i infile -o outfile" to compile the video & audio, then tcmplex to multiplex the resulting streams into a .vob suitable for dvdauthor. -- Pierre Beyssac pb@enst.fr From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 13:03:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461B537B408 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web14604.mail.yahoo.com (web14604.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D53D43FA3 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:03:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from plageotakes@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030618200354.62315.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.3.220.102] by web14604.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:03:54 PDT Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:03:54 -0700 (PDT) From: peter lageotakes To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , Andrew Gould In-Reply-To: <02fe01c33435$9dfc1400$d037630a@dh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvd+rw+r for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:03:55 -0000 Yes it is supported in 4.x. I just rebuilt my kernel so that I can use CDRecord. I know it works on 4.8 and above. It mentions in the handbook: section 12.5 "Creating and Using Optical Media". http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook /creating-cds.html "Note: If you run FreeBSD 5.X, FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE version or higher, it will be possible to use cdrecord and other tools for SCSI drives on an ATAPI hardware with the ATAPI/CAM module." Sorry if this was already answered. I am a little behind in email. Pete --- "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote: > I believe you need this in your kernel at a bare > minimum. I don't know if > atapicam is supported in FreeBSD 4.x. It certainly > is in 5.x. > > # ATA and ATAPI devices > device atapicam > > # SCSI peripherals > device scbus # SCSI bus > (required) > device da # Direct Access > (disks) > device cd # CD > device pass # Passthrough device > (direct SCSI access) > > Tom Veldhouse > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Gould" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:25 PM > Subject: dvd+rw+r for FreeBSD > > > > I'm not subscribed to this list; but I read that > > Matthew Dillon has ported the dvd+rw tools to > FreeBSD. > > > > I just compiled and installed the application; but > I > > can't burn to a DVD+RW on a Sony DRU-500A. > > > > command: growisofs -Z /dev/acd0c -rl ./testfile > > result: ":-( unable to CAMGETPASSTHRU for > /dev/acd0c: > > Inappropriate ioctl for device" > > > > The DVD+RW website: > > http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/tools/ > > which is for Linux, says that you have to use scsi > > emulation with ide burners. Is the Sony 500A a > scsi > > device? (Is it different from the DRU-500A?) If > not, > > how can I work around the scsi issue in FreeBSD? > > > > I'm using FreeBSD 4.8-Stable (stable as of a > couple of > > weeks ago). > > > > Thanks, > > > > Andrew Gould > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 18:36:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0FE637B407 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943A343FA3 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:36:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7B12572FE7; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BC972FDC; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:36:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Tuomo Latto In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20030616094400.00b385b8@pop.mbnet.fi> Message-ID: <20030618183623.C18950@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <5.1.1.6.2.20030616094400.00b385b8@pop.mbnet.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VT6102 and RTL 8100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 01:36:43 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Tuomo Latto wrote: > Hi, > does anyone have any idea whether VIA VT6102 "Rhine II" and Realtek RTL > 8100 Ethernet chips are supported by FreeBSD? > The hardware list for supported chips does list 'VT86C100A "Rhine II"' but > according to VIA website VT86C100A is actually just "Rhine" and it is > obviously not the same chip. (The 'VT3043 "Rhine I"' chip mentioned in > hardware list can not be found with the search function on the VIA website > at all.) Might be useful to know which chipset you are looking at. My KT400 based board has this and works fine. -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 20:30:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7956837B4B3 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from InterJet.dellroad.org (adsl-63-194-81-26.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.194.81.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E7243F3F for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie@dellroad.org) Received: from arch20m.dellroad.org (arch20m.dellroad.org [10.2.2.20]) by InterJet.dellroad.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA81625; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arch20m.dellroad.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arch20m.dellroad.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5J3IArQ060336; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:18:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie@arch20m.dellroad.org) Received: (from archie@localhost) by arch20m.dellroad.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h5J3I9vW060335; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:18:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <200306190318.h5J3I9vW060335@arch20m.dellroad.org> In-Reply-To: To: Mark Thomas Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:18:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL99b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: System panic (mpd related?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 03:30:18 -0000 Mark Thomas wrote: [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > Getting the following panic on a new Dell Poweredge 1650. This machine is > going to be a VPN server and has a large number of pptp links configured. > The machine is stable if mpd is not running. Are you using IPv6 at all? If not try disabling it in your kernel config. -Archie __________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Precision I/O * http://www.precisionio.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 00:47:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6EE37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 00:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F82D43F3F for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 00:47:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@fishballoon.org) Received: from fishballoon.org ([81.104.195.199]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com ESMTP <20030619074720.ZMCT28183.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@fishballoon.org>; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 08:47:20 +0100 Received: from tuatara.fishballoon.org (tuatara [192.168.1.6]) by fishballoon.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5J7kb4o011895; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 08:46:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott@tuatara.fishballoon.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by tuatara.fishballoon.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5J7kaOn042094; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 08:46:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 08:46:36 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell To: Doug White Message-ID: <20030619074636.GC691@tuatara.fishballoon.org> References: <5.1.1.6.2.20030616094400.00b385b8@pop.mbnet.fi> <20030618183623.C18950@carver.gumbysoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030618183623.C18950@carver.gumbysoft.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: Tuomo Latto Subject: Re: VT6102 and RTL 8100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 07:47:23 -0000 On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 06:36:42PM -0700, Doug White wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Tuomo Latto wrote: > > > Hi, > > does anyone have any idea whether VIA VT6102 "Rhine II" and Realtek RTL > > 8100 Ethernet chips are supported by FreeBSD? > > The hardware list for supported chips does list 'VT86C100A "Rhine II"' but > > according to VIA website VT86C100A is actually just "Rhine" and it is > > obviously not the same chip. (The 'VT3043 "Rhine I"' chip mentioned in > > hardware list can not be found with the search function on the VIA website > > at all.) > > Might be useful to know which chipset you are looking at. My KT400 based > board has this and works fine. The VIA VT6102 is definitely supported: llama# dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #0: Thu Apr 3 10:53:38 GMT 2003 root@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC [... snippage ...] vr0: port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem 0xde002000-0xde0020ff irq 11 at device 18.0 on pci0 vr0: Ethernet address: 00:40:63:c5:8d:63 miibus0: on vr0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto This is on a VIA EPIA-ME6000 board. Seems to work just fine. Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 04:21:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D565637B404 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 04:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onyx.breakawaygames.com (ip66-3-217-81.z217-3-66.customer.algx.net [66.3.217.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB73843F75 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 04:21:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mthomas@breakawayltd.com) Received: from mthomasxp (host167 [192.168.100.167]) by onyx.breakawaygames.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h5JBLCK44962; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 07:21:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mthomas@breakawayltd.com) From: "Mark Thomas" To: "Archie Cobbs" Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 07:21:48 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200306190318.h5J3I9vW060335@arch20m.dellroad.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: System panic (mpd related?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:21:16 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Archie Cobbs [mailto:archie@dellroad.org] > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:18 PM > To: Mark Thomas > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: System panic (mpd related?) > > > Mark Thomas wrote: > [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > > Getting the following panic on a new Dell Poweredge 1650. This > machine is > > going to be a VPN server and has a large number of pptp links > configured. > > The machine is stable if mpd is not running. > > Are you using IPv6 at all? If not try disabling it in your kernel config. I'm not using IPv6. I'll try disabling that. Presumably that means gif, faith and stf devices should be disabled as well? Mark Thomas mthomas@breakwayltd.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 06:00:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFD237B401 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 06:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from InterJet.dellroad.org (adsl-63-194-81-26.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.194.81.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD1D43F75 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 06:00:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie@dellroad.org) Received: from arch20m.dellroad.org (arch20m.dellroad.org [10.2.2.20]) by InterJet.dellroad.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA84717; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 05:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arch20m.dellroad.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arch20m.dellroad.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5JCr2Fc001743; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 05:53:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie@arch20m.dellroad.org) Received: (from archie@localhost) by arch20m.dellroad.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h5JCr2PY001742; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 05:53:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <200306191253.h5JCr2PY001742@arch20m.dellroad.org> In-Reply-To: To: Mark Thomas Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 05:53:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL99b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Archie Cobbs Subject: Re: System panic (mpd related?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:00:08 -0000 Mark Thomas wrote: > > [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > > > Getting the following panic on a new Dell Poweredge 1650. This > > machine is > > > going to be a VPN server and has a large number of pptp links > > configured. > > > The machine is stable if mpd is not running. > > > > Are you using IPv6 at all? If not try disabling it in your kernel config. > > I'm not using IPv6. I'll try disabling that. Presumably that means gif, > faith and stf devices should be disabled as well? Might as well.. -Archie __________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Precision I/O * http://www.precisionio.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 12:11:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2AE37B401; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net (gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net [207.246.128.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A2C43F93; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:10:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joek@mail.flyingcroc.net) Received: from mail.flyingcroc.net (zircon.staff.flyingcroc.net [207.246.150.92])h5JJAvAv077068; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EF20AC1.10607@mail.flyingcroc.net> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:10:57 -0700 From: Joe Kelsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030515 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: flashpluginwrapper for Flash 6 (Shared Library Tools redux) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 19:11:00 -0000 Ok. I hand-modified the linux-flashplugin6 shared library to remove all of the DT_NEEDED entries. I then modified flashpluginwrapper to add the following functions: void __assert_fail(const char *assertion, const char *file, unsigned int line, const char *function) { fprint (stderr, "%s:%d:%s: %s\n", file, line, function, assertion); abort (); } #include int __ctype_toupper(int c) { return toupper (c); } unsigned short int __ctype_b[256]; #include int *__errno_location(void) { return __error (); } unsigned long int __strtoul_internal(const char *__nptr, char **__endptr, int __base, int __group) { return strtoul (__nptr, __endptr, __base); } void __terminate() { fprintf (stderr, "terminate!\n"); } ssize_t __write (int __fd, const void *__buf, size_t __size) { return write (__fd, __buf, __size); } int __fxstat(int __ver, int __filedesc, struct stat *__stat_buf) { return fstat (__filedesc, __stat_buf); } int __xstat(int __ver, const char *__filename, struct stat *__stat_buf) { return stat (__filename, __stat_buf); } I installed this new version of flashpluginwrapper, installed the linux-flashplugin6 library in browser_plugins. Now, the Flash 6 code segfaults in pthread_mutex_init(), called from Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x284549d6 in pthread_mutex_init () from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4 (gdb) bt #0 0x284549d6 in pthread_mutex_init () from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4 #1 0x298016b0 in MPCriticalSection::MPCriticalSection () from /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so #2 0x297fdfd5 in PlatformGlobals::PlatformGlobals () from /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so #3 0x2983c8de in NPP_GetValue () from /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so #4 0x2983c91a in NPP_GetValue () from /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so #5 0x2985ea55 in __pure_virtual () from /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so #6 0x29761cbe in _init () from /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so #7 0x28081acf in find_symdef () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #8 0x280823ef in dlopen () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #9 0x28128c18 in PR_LoadLibrary () from /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/./libnspr4.so #10 0x28128b34 in PR_LoadLibraryWithFlags () ... Anyone familiar enough with Mozilla internals to understand why pthread_mutex_init segfaults? Has Mozilla started its own threads by the time it loads the libraries? I don't know where to look to track this down. Maybe a difference between Linux and FreeBSD in the pthread semantics? /Joe From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 14:48:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D5A37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.atlantis.dp.ua (atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua [193.108.46.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F351943F93 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:48:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua) Received: from atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua (atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua [193.108.46.1])h5JLlmvc087970 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 00:47:59 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 00:47:48 +0300 (EEST) From: Dmitry Pryanishnikov To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030619190058.A5E0437B405@hub.freebsd.org.lucky.freebsd.stable> Message-ID: <20030620003750.A83114-100000@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: RE: System panic (mpd related?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:48:17 -0000 Hello! > From: "Mark Thomas" > > Are you using IPv6 at all? If not try disabling it in your kernel config. > > I'm not using IPv6. I'll try disabling that. Presumably that means gif, > faith and stf devices should be disabled as well? You can use gif pseudo-device in IPv4-only kernel (to do just IP-in-IP encapsulation). faith and stf obviously have sense only in IPv6 kernels. Sincerely, Dmitry -- Atlantis ISP, System Administrator e-mail: dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua nic-hdl: LYNX-RIPE From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 18:05:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD6037B401 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from noc.mainstreet.net (noc.mainstreet.net [207.5.0.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F3443F93 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:05:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@noc.mainstreet.net) Received: from noc.mainstreet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by noc.mainstreet.net (8.12.9/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h5K154r6028046 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mark@localhost) by noc.mainstreet.net (8.12.9/8.12.1/Submit) id h5K154N9028043; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200306200105.h5K154N9028043@noc.mainstreet.net> From: Mark Kent To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: SMP goes away after installworld (4.8-STABLE) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 01:05:07 -0000 Hello, I installed 4.8-RELEASE a few weeks ago, and since I let the effort sit stagnant for a while I decided to do the cvsup/buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel/installworld/mergemaster/MAKEDEV steps to get current. Went fine, rebooted, then noticed that just one CPU was recognized: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #0: Thu Jun 19 17:05:20 PDT 2003 mark@lah-210.mainstreet.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/MDK FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 1, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 I confirmed my kernel config was OK, rebuilt it, rebooted and got the same result. I also looked at 'mptable' and 'top' to make sure. I boot off my backup disk and I get: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #0: Thu May 29 14:48:37 PDT 2003 mark@lah-210.mainstreet.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/MDK FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 So, there it is. Both cpu (also present in mptable and top). I confirmed that the kernel config is identical. Any idea what I screwed up on the way to 4.8-STABLE that lost me the SMP? Thanks, -mark From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 20:20:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BDA37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailscan1.is.depaul.edu (mailscan1.is.depaul.edu [140.192.20.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D29C243FAF for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:20:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rflosi@shrike.depaul.edu) Received: From students.depaul.edu ([140.192.1.100]) by mailscan1.is.depaul.edu (WebShield SMTP v4.5 MR1a); id 1056079239198; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:20:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:20:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Rick Flosi X-X-Sender: rflosi@students.depaul.edu To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030618200354.62315.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: postfix patch error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 03:20:42 -0000 I was doing 'make install clean' for the 'instant-workstation' port and ended up with the following error. Does anyone know how to fix this error? How does one figure out how to solve these problems when they occur? Thanks. Error Message: [snip] ===> instant-workstation-1.0_2 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/postfix - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/sbin/postfix in /usr/ports/mail/postfix ===> Patching for postfix-2.0.10,1 ===> Applying distribution patches for postfix-2.0.10,1 Ignoring previously applied (or reversed) patch. 5 out of 5 hunks ignored--saving rejects to src/util/Makefile.in.rej Ignoring previously applied (or reversed) patch. 2 out of 2 hunks ignored--saving rejects to src/util/dict_open.c.rej *** Error code 7 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/postfix. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/postfix. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/instant-workstation. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 21:30:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AAF637B401 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from solomon.four10.com (solomon.four10.com [66.252.192.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90F1243FA3 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:30:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tech@four10.com) Received: (qmail 242 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2003 04:30:16 -0000 Received: from c-67-162-142-219.client.comcast.net (HELO blaq) (67.162.142.219) by solomon.four10.com with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 04:30:16 -0000 Message-ID: <026b01c336e4$cbe965a0$db8ea243@blaq> From: "Onyi C. Ejiasa" To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:31:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: postfix patch error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Onyi C. Ejiasa" List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 04:30:41 -0000 What are the contents of the "Makefile.in.rej" and "dict_open.c.rej" = files? This may hold you answer... ---------------------------------------------------------------- (T)archive.com 100Mbps Open Source Mirror ---------------------------------------------------------------- URL Location: www.tarchive.com Physical Location: Denver, CO - USA Connection: 100mbps Fibre Connection - Cogent Communications ---------------------------------------------------------------- Provided by: Four10.com Managed by: Onyi C. Ejiasa ---------------------------------------------------------------- Contact Info: tech@four10.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rick Flosi=20 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:20 PM Subject: postfix patch error? I was doing 'make install clean' for the 'instant-workstation' port = and ended up with the following error. Does anyone know how to fix this error? How does one figure out how to solve these problems when they occur? Thanks. Error Message: [snip] =3D=3D=3D> instant-workstation-1.0_2 depends on file: = /usr/local/sbin/postfix - not found =3D=3D=3D> Verifying install for /usr/local/sbin/postfix in /usr/ports/mail/postfix =3D=3D=3D> Patching for postfix-2.0.10,1 =3D=3D=3D> Applying distribution patches for postfix-2.0.10,1 Ignoring previously applied (or reversed) patch. 5 out of 5 hunks ignored--saving rejects to src/util/Makefile.in.rej Ignoring previously applied (or reversed) patch. 2 out of 2 hunks ignored--saving rejects to src/util/dict_open.c.rej *** Error code 7 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/postfix. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/postfix. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/instant-workstation. _______________________________________________ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 21:32:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4C437B401 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from solomon.four10.com (solomon.four10.com [66.252.192.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B577643FA3 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:32:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tech@four10.com) Received: (qmail 376 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2003 04:32:11 -0000 Received: from c-67-162-142-219.client.comcast.net (HELO blaq) (67.162.142.219) by solomon.four10.com with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 04:32:11 -0000 Message-ID: <027701c336e5$108b2130$db8ea243@blaq> From: "Onyi C. Ejiasa" To: References: <200306200105.h5K154N9028043@noc.mainstreet.net> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:33:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: SMP goes away after installworld (4.8-STABLE) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Onyi C. Ejiasa" List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 04:32:36 -0000 Mark, Can we check out your kernel config? ---------------------------------------------------------------- (T)archive.com 100Mbps Open Source Mirror ---------------------------------------------------------------- URL Location: www.tarchive.com Physical Location: Denver, CO - USA Connection: 100mbps Fibre Connection - Cogent Communications ---------------------------------------------------------------- Provided by: Four10.com Managed by: Onyi C. Ejiasa ---------------------------------------------------------------- Contact Info: tech@four10.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Kent=20 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 7:05 PM Subject: SMP goes away after installworld (4.8-STABLE) Hello, I installed 4.8-RELEASE a few weeks ago, and since I let the effort sit stagnant for a while I decided to do the=20 = cvsup/buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel/installworld/mergemaster/MAKED= EV steps to get current. Went fine, rebooted, then noticed that just one CPU was recognized: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #0: Thu Jun 19 17:05:20 PDT 2003=20 mark@lah-210.mainstreet.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/MDK=20 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard=20 cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000=20 io0 (APIC): apic id: 1, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000=20 I confirmed my kernel config was OK, rebuilt it, rebooted and got the same result. I also looked at 'mptable' and 'top' to make sure. I boot off my backup disk and I get: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #0: Thu May 29 14:48:37 PDT 2003=20 mark@lah-210.mainstreet.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/MDK=20 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard=20 cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000=20 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000=20 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000=20 So, there it is. Both cpu (also present in mptable and top). I confirmed that the kernel config is identical. Any idea what I screwed up on the way to 4.8-STABLE that lost me the SMP? Thanks, -mark _______________________________________________ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 22:20:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBD337B401 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from noc.mainstreet.net (noc.mainstreet.net [207.5.0.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2AED43F3F for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:19:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@noc.mainstreet.net) Received: from noc.mainstreet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by noc.mainstreet.net (8.12.9/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h5K5JJr6089297; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mark@localhost) by noc.mainstreet.net (8.12.9/8.12.1/Submit) id h5K5JJvi089294; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200306200519.h5K5JJvi089294@noc.mainstreet.net> From: Mark Kent To: tech@four10.com In-reply-to: <027701c336e5$108b2130$db8ea243@blaq> (tech@four10.com) References: <200306200105.h5K154N9028043@noc.mainstreet.net> <027701c336e5$108b2130$db8ea243@blaq> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP goes away after installworld (4.8-STABLE) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 05:20:13 -0000 >> Can we check out your kernel config? Here it is: http://a.mainstreet.net/MDK -mark From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 22:44:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7927B37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp807.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp807.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 137BF43FAF for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:44:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sewall@ix.netcom.com) Received: from adsl-63-198-181-47.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ix.netcom.com) (sewall@pacbell.net@63.198.181.47 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 05:44:13 -0000 Message-ID: <3EF2A452.156DF49E@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:06:10 -0700 From: "Scott R. Sewall" Organization: Rosetta software X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: pst: timeout mfa=0x00327b90 cmd=WRITE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 05:44:14 -0000 I installed a Promise SuperTrak SX6000 ATA RAID controller on 4.8-RELEASE. The following message is logged when the device is under load (equivalent of make release): pst: timeout mfa=0x00327b90 cmd=WRITE Should I be concerned? Does the I/O fail and the driver simply not report the failure to the application? -- Scott From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 03:44:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105D937B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 03:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (mail.dt.E-Technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.163.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF7143F75 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 03:44:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ma@dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de) Received: from m2a2.dyndns.org (krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.163.1])C14DDA381E for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:44:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 9BF4389AEE; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:44:34 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (Rick Flosi's message of "Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:20:39 -0500 (CDT)") References: From: Matthias Andree Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:44:34 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: postfix patch error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:44:39 -0000 Rick Flosi writes: > I was doing 'make install clean' for the 'instant-workstation' port and > ended up with the following error. > > Does anyone know how to fix this error? I've installed that same Postfix port (2.0.10,1) some hours earlier on FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT without difficulties. Try "portinstall postfix", then try reinstalling instant-workstation. -- Matthias Andree From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 05:25:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC4C37B401; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 05:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from likya.bimel.com.tr (likya.bimel.com.tr [212.175.96.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C2343F93; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 05:25:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ustuntas@bimel.com.tr) Received: (from root@localhost) by likya.bimel.com.tr (8.12.6p2/8.12.8) id h5KCNV8Z019944; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:23:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ustuntas@bimel.com.tr) Received: from bimel.com.tr (zeugma.bimel.com.tr [212.175.96.11]) h5KCNUCm019935; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:23:30 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ustuntas@bimel.com.tr) Message-ID: <3EF2FFB6.5000706@bimel.com.tr> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:36:06 +0300 From: Murat USTUNTAS User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: tr, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Subject: How can convert user expired days in human readable ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:25:51 -0000 Hello all, On my system, some users have expire day user settings. I write a (python) script then parse the: 7.th selection in the master.passwd blabla:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:1064005200:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx How can I conver the number like 1064005200 to human readable date format ? Or, there is a way to collect the information from a command interactively ? Regards, Murat Ustuntas From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 05:30:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931AC37B404 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 05:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gascom.ru (mail.gascom.ru [217.17.160.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DDE1F43FBD for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 05:30:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asa@gascom.ru) Received: (qmail 90399 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2003 12:16:11 -0000 Received: from asa.gascom.net.ru (HELO ?192.168.100.29?) (192.168.100.29) by mail.gascom.ru with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 12:16:11 -0000 From: Sergey Akifyev To: Murat USTUNTAS In-Reply-To: <3EF2FFB6.5000706@bimel.com.tr> References: <3EF2FFB6.5000706@bimel.com.tr> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-xP0bmpetW6iFIUPaHTzP" Organization: JSC Gascom Message-Id: <1056112162.27633.0.camel@asa.gascom.net.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.0 Date: 20 Jun 2003 16:29:22 +0400 cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can convert user expired days in human readable ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:30:15 -0000 --=-xP0bmpetW6iFIUPaHTzP Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 16:36, Murat USTUNTAS wrote: > How can I conver the number like 1064005200 to human readable date format= ? > Or, there is a way to collect the information from a command interactivel= y ? date -r 1064005200 --=20 regards, Sergey Akifyev JSC Gascom PGP key available from: ftp://ftp.gascom.ru/pub/PGP-keys/asa.txt --=-xP0bmpetW6iFIUPaHTzP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+8v4ibu06QwmNwNsRAvf+AJ4onc2W7f4bH7l4ak8wld5tQq+rNwCeMoCN k2T9lXPWquDu9hjh1hOjYic= =juDF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-xP0bmpetW6iFIUPaHTzP-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 05:34:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4DD37B401; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 05:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tensor.xs4all.nl (tensor.xs4all.nl [194.109.160.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0658743F3F; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 05:34:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dim@xs4all.nl) Received: from kilgore.dim (kilgore.dim [192.168.0.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tensor.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BFE954AF; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:34:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:34:18 +0200 From: Dimitry Andric X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.63 Beta/11) Business X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1494539587.20030620143418@xs4all.nl> To: Murat USTUNTAS In-Reply-To: <3EF2FFB6.5000706@bimel.com.tr> References: <3EF2FFB6.5000706@bimel.com.tr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="----------101AB8F1D880FE9" cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can convert user expired days in human readable ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:34:27 -0000 ------------101AB8F1D880FE9 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 2003-06-20 at 14:36:06 Murat USTUNTAS wrote: > How can I conver the number like 1064005200 to human readable date > format ? Try: date -r 1064005200 And read the date(1) manpage for more information. ------------101AB8F1D880FE9 Content-type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) iD8DBQE+8v9IsF6jCi4glqMRAm9wAKD05VZlfzLRmvHyAn40duIJg5WkXwCfZdp3 DFWa8xdemiZ8yzuaMC9dOOo= =6j+s -----END PGP MESSAGE----- ------------101AB8F1D880FE9-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 05:35:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F1837B404; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 05:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from likya.bimel.com.tr (likya.bimel.com.tr [212.175.96.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1C543F3F; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 05:35:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ustuntas@bimel.com.tr) Received: (from root@localhost) by likya.bimel.com.tr (8.12.6p2/8.12.8) id h5KCWgoL020718; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:32:42 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ustuntas@bimel.com.tr) Received: from bimel.com.tr (zeugma.bimel.com.tr [212.175.96.11]) h5KCWfCm020709; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:32:41 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ustuntas@bimel.com.tr) Message-ID: <3EF301DC.1010403@bimel.com.tr> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:45:16 +0300 From: Murat USTUNTAS User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: tr, en-us, en To: Sergey Akifyev References: <3EF2FFB6.5000706@bimel.com.tr> <1056112162.27633.0.camel@asa.gascom.net.ru> In-Reply-To: <1056112162.27633.0.camel@asa.gascom.net.ru> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can convert user expired days in human readable ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:35:02 -0000 Thank you so much... I just adding the command , everything in fine. Regards Murat Ustuntas Sergey Akifyev wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 16:36, Murat USTUNTAS wrote: How can I conver the number like 1064005200 to human readable date format ? Or, there is a way to collect the information from a command interactively ? date -r 1064005200 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 05:35:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A844937B404; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 05:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E071E43F3F; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 05:35:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h5KCZEcX025773 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:35:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)h5KCZEtq025772; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:35:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:35:14 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Murat USTUNTAS Message-ID: <20030620123514.GB25252@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Murat USTUNTAS , questions@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org References: <3EF2FFB6.5000706@bimel.com.tr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EF2FFB6.5000706@bimel.com.tr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-11.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,HOT_NASTY,IN_REP_TO, PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can convert user expired days in human readable ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:35:36 -0000 --ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 03:36:06PM +0300, Murat USTUNTAS wrote: > On my system, some users have expire day user settings. I write a=20 > (python) script > then parse the: 7.th selection in the master.passwd >=20 > blabla:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:1064005200:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx >=20 > How can I conver the number like 1064005200 to human readable date format= ? > Or, there is a way to collect the information from a command interactivel= y ? That date is given as the number of seconds since the epoch (1 Jan 1970, 00:00 UTC), which is the standard Unix time_t internal time/date representation. You can convert it into human readable format by: % date -r 1064005200 Fri Sep 19 22:00:00 BST 2003=20 Or from within Python, you should have access to strftime(3) or equivalent which will convert a time_t into a human-readable time/date. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+8v+CdtESqEQa7a0RAo3bAJ4mipPunOLUdQzrAz6uaE46ML00lgCdE3gR SKqXSS3O6o3WG5M1ysVmbB4= =qT/7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 05:39:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B6737B41E; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 05:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ensim1.kuruption.net (kuruption.net [64.246.28.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC1343F93; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 05:39:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raymond@sundland.com) Received: from kuruption.net (pcp03026213pcs.plnfld01.nj.comcast.net [68.85.62.182]) by ensim1.kuruption.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5KCdAR00542; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:39:10 -0400 Received: by kuruption.net (Postfix, from userid 50) id 0DA228D9DF; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sundland.com (pcp03026106pcs.plnfld01.nj.comcast.net [68.85.62.75]) by kuruption.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF1E8D9C9; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:38:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3EF30062.1060506@sundland.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:38:58 -0400 From: "Raymond T. Sundland" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Murat USTUNTAS References: <3EF2FFB6.5000706@bimel.com.tr> In-Reply-To: <3EF2FFB6.5000706@bimel.com.tr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.74.3.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.7 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,HOT_NASTY,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,TO_BE_REMOVED_REPLY, USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.44 X-Spam-Level: cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can convert user expired days in human readable ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:39:20 -0000 Within the master.passwd, the time is stored in seconds since the Epoch, and there are standard C and POSIX functions for converting this into any format you want. I don't know much about python, but within Perl you can use strftime() to convert the date. You would do something similar to: strftime("%D", localtime($unixtime)) where $unixtime is assigned to the value you pulled from the master.passwd file. The %D simply returns a MM/DD/YY format date. Check to see if Python has similar functions... they are POSIX compliant. Murat USTUNTAS wrote: > Hello all, > > On my system, some users have expire day user settings. I write a > (python) script > then parse the: 7.th selection in the master.passwd > > blabla:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:1064005200:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx > > How can I conver the number like 1064005200 to human readable date > format ? > Or, there is a way to collect the information from a command > interactively ? > > Regards, > > Murat Ustuntas > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 06:42:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56FA37B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 06:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.firstcallgroup.co.uk (dilbert.firstcallgroup.co.uk [194.200.93.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E1443FD7 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 06:42:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pfrench@firstcallgroup.co.uk) Received: from pfrench by mailhost.firstcallgroup.co.uk with local (Exim 4.12) id 19TM9P-000J3O-00 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:41:59 +0100 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: From: Pete French Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:41:59 +0100 Subject: procfs problems -cmdline turncated at 256 bytes ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:42:05 -0000 running 4.8 stable, the cmdline file in /proc/$$ seems to be trucated at, or before 256 bytes for very long command lines. I cant find any refernec to this behaviour in the manpage, nor does google reveal anything. I took a look in the source, but didnt properly understand what was going on - the comments imply that it does give the full commandline for the current process, however. any suggestions ? any alternative ways to get hold of the arguments from within a running program (which doesnt have access to "main()"). -pcf. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 08:55:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE88037B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tulip.epweb.co.za (tulip.epweb.co.za [196.14.166.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7EEB43F75 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:55:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ultraviolet@tulip.epweb.co.za) Received: from tulip.epweb.co.za (localhost.epweb.co.za [127.0.0.1]) by tulip.epweb.co.za (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5KFtLvD008615 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:55:21 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from ultraviolet@tulip.epweb.co.za) Received: (from ultraviolet@localhost) by tulip.epweb.co.za (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5KFtGCb008614 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:55:16 +0200 (SAST) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:55:16 +0200 From: William Fletcher To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030620155516.GC7055@tulip.epweb.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yLVHuoLXiP9kZBkt" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: Zsh fork bomb paniced my kernel. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ultraviolet@epweb.co.za List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:55:12 -0000 --yLVHuoLXiP9kZBkt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, My machine just bombed when I did the following stupid command. :(){:|:};: Zsh chewed up everything on the machine... I ran it knowing I'd probably have to reboot. But, I hardly expected it to panic. Or, was that normal? Anyway, the following is some detail... Please mail me if there is more I'm ment to do. Thanks in advance :) ultraviolet@tulip:~ %> uname -a FreeBSD tulip.epweb.co.za 4.8-STABLE FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #0: Wed Jun 11 10:0= 9:55 SAST 2003 root@tulip.epweb.co.za:/usr/src/sys/compile/TULIP i386 Panic message: IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x0042a000 initial pcb at physical address 0x0036e460 panicstr: vm_map_entry_create: kernel resources exhausted initial pcb at physical address 0x0036e460 panicstr: vm_map_entry_create: kernel resources exhausted panic messages: --- panic: vm_map_entry_create: kernel resources exhausted syncing disks... 2 2 done Uptime: 7d7h13m45s (kgdb) where #0 0xc01682aa in dumpsys () #1 0xc016807b in boot () #2 0xc01684a0 in poweroff_wait () #3 0xc02553f0 in vm_map_entry_create () #4 0xc02555e9 in vm_map_insert () #5 0xc0255810 in vm_map_find () #6 0xc0178cfb in pipespace () #7 0xc0178dd2 in pipe_create () #8 0xc0178b54 in pipe () #9 0xc02c21f5 in syscall2 () #10 0xc02b3875 in Xint0x80_syscall () #11 0x28081e1f in ?? () #12 0x2808135b in ?? () #13 0x28080deb in ?? () #14 0x28080b6e in ?? () #15 0x28086b39 in ?? () #16 0x28086964 in ?? () #17 0x280863fc in ?? () #18 0x2808458a in ?? () #19 0x28081e1f in ?? () #20 0x2808135b in ?? () #21 0x28080deb in ?? () #22 0x28080b6e in ?? () #23 0x28086b39 in ?? () ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #24 0x28086964 in ?? () #25 0x280863fc in ?? () #26 0x2808458a in ?? () #27 0x28081e1f in ?? () #28 0x2808135b in ?? () #29 0x28080deb in ?? () #30 0x28080b6e in ?? () #31 0x28086b39 in ?? () #32 0x28086964 in ?? () #33 0x280863fc in ?? () #34 0x2808458a in ?? () #35 0x28081e1f in ?? () #36 0x2808135b in ?? () #37 0x28080deb in ?? () #38 0x28080b6e in ?? () #39 0x28086b39 in ?? () #40 0x28086964 in ?? () #41 0x280863fc in ?? () #42 0x2808458a in ?? () Cannot access memory at address 0xbfbfd040. --=20 William Fletcher (ultraviolet) Powered by http://www.FreeBSD.org/ IT Administrator, EPWeb networks. =20 http://www.epweb.co.za/ =20 Tel: +27 (041) 395 6800 =20 Fax: +27 (041) 395 6818=09 Support: support@epweb.co.za --yLVHuoLXiP9kZBkt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+8y5kju3fq0dMPxsRArFvAKCVikbTh/JehZKP/I+gIIJDHcj9zACgqi3u L+DePOC042ltzarUpf1AFzw= =Y3YO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yLVHuoLXiP9kZBkt-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 10:06:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8F337B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pyroxene.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A7343F93 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:06:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simian.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by pyroxene.sentex.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5KH5q8D068406; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:05:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030620130214.071b0c58@209.112.4.2> X-Sender: mdtpop@209.112.4.2 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:06:15 -0400 To: ultraviolet@epweb.co.za, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <20030620155516.GC7055@tulip.epweb.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: By Sentex Communications (lava/20020517) Subject: Re: Zsh fork bomb paniced my kernel. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:06:06 -0000 Yes and no. It seems that if certain resources get starved bad things will happen. The OS will let you shoot yourself in the foot afterall. You can protect yourself from yourself by adjusting the defaults in /etc/login.conf. ---Mike At 05:55 PM 20/06/2003 +0200, William Fletcher wrote: >Hi, > >My machine just bombed when I did the following stupid command. >:(){:|:};: >Zsh chewed up everything on the machine... >I ran it knowing I'd probably have to reboot. > >But, I hardly expected it to panic. > >Or, was that normal? > >Anyway, the following is some detail... >Please mail me if there is more I'm ment to do. > >Thanks in advance :) > >ultraviolet@tulip:~ %> uname -a >FreeBSD tulip.epweb.co.za 4.8-STABLE FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #0: Wed Jun 11 >10:09:55 >SAST 2003 root@tulip.epweb.co.za:/usr/src/sys/compile/TULIP i386 > >Panic message: >IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x0042a000 >initial pcb at physical address 0x0036e460 >panicstr: vm_map_entry_create: kernel resources exhausted >initial pcb at physical address 0x0036e460 >panicstr: vm_map_entry_create: kernel resources exhausted >panic messages: >--- >panic: vm_map_entry_create: kernel resources exhausted > >syncing disks... 2 2 >done >Uptime: 7d7h13m45s > >(kgdb) where >#0 0xc01682aa in dumpsys () >#1 0xc016807b in boot () >#2 0xc01684a0 in poweroff_wait () >#3 0xc02553f0 in vm_map_entry_create () >#4 0xc02555e9 in vm_map_insert () >#5 0xc0255810 in vm_map_find () >#6 0xc0178cfb in pipespace () >#7 0xc0178dd2 in pipe_create () >#8 0xc0178b54 in pipe () >#9 0xc02c21f5 in syscall2 () >#10 0xc02b3875 in Xint0x80_syscall () >#11 0x28081e1f in ?? () >#12 0x2808135b in ?? () >#13 0x28080deb in ?? () >#14 0x28080b6e in ?? () >#15 0x28086b39 in ?? () >#16 0x28086964 in ?? () >#17 0x280863fc in ?? () >#18 0x2808458a in ?? () >#19 0x28081e1f in ?? () >#20 0x2808135b in ?? () >#21 0x28080deb in ?? () >#22 0x28080b6e in ?? () >#23 0x28086b39 in ?? () >---Type to continue, or q to quit--- >#24 0x28086964 in ?? () >#25 0x280863fc in ?? () >#26 0x2808458a in ?? () >#27 0x28081e1f in ?? () >#28 0x2808135b in ?? () >#29 0x28080deb in ?? () >#30 0x28080b6e in ?? () >#31 0x28086b39 in ?? () >#32 0x28086964 in ?? () >#33 0x280863fc in ?? () >#34 0x2808458a in ?? () >#35 0x28081e1f in ?? () >#36 0x2808135b in ?? () >#37 0x28080deb in ?? () >#38 0x28080b6e in ?? () >#39 0x28086b39 in ?? () >#40 0x28086964 in ?? () >#41 0x280863fc in ?? () >#42 0x2808458a in ?? () >Cannot access memory at address 0xbfbfd040. > >-- >William Fletcher (ultraviolet) Powered by >http://www.FreeBSD.org/ >IT Administrator, EPWeb networks. >http://www.epweb.co.za/ >Tel: +27 (041) 395 6800 >Fax: +27 (041) 395 6818 >Support: support@epweb.co.za > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 10:08:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DB237B404 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-104-32.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.104.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4980A43F75 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:08:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0DE66BE5; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D72778C5; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:08:34 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Rick Flosi Message-ID: <20030620170834.GA53684@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <20030618200354.62315.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: postfix patch error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:08:36 -0000 --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 10:20:39PM -0500, Rick Flosi wrote: > I was doing 'make install clean' for the 'instant-workstation' port and > ended up with the following error. >=20 > Does anyone know how to fix this error? It looks like you have extra files in your ports tree, possibly because of local changes or updating the ports tree incorrectly using cvsup. > How does one figure out how to solve these problems when they occur? See the cvsup FAQ on www.polstra.com, Q12 and Q13 for information on how to cvsup your ports tree correctly after installation. Kris --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+8z+SWry0BWjoQKURAptIAKCApZaEaaMkrzAOAGcBvW/GMvo5jgCfQ6AZ z4OP9VitwZGqCKXvUhtzTbM= =chSa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 10:09:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4335A37B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-104-32.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.104.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBF843F3F for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:09:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDA266BE5; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5EDEE8C5; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:09:43 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: William Fletcher Message-ID: <20030620170943.GB53684@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <20030620155516.GC7055@tulip.epweb.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5/uDoXvLw7AC5HRs" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030620155516.GC7055@tulip.epweb.co.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Zsh fork bomb paniced my kernel. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:09:45 -0000 --5/uDoXvLw7AC5HRs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 05:55:16PM +0200, William Fletcher wrote: > Hi, >=20 > My machine just bombed when I did the following stupid command. > :(){:|:};: > Zsh chewed up everything on the machine... > I ran it knowing I'd probably have to reboot. >=20 > But, I hardly expected it to panic. >=20 > Or, was that normal? Yes, this is a FAQ, and why resource limits exist. man login.conf Kris --5/uDoXvLw7AC5HRs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+8z/WWry0BWjoQKURAue6AJ0Q44CMa17Vr55DmIpOsdY4aagEigCdEIiU nhccjmMkyI2FCRDb5pZ8hHg= =5v0l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5/uDoXvLw7AC5HRs-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 10:16:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E95937B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moghedien.mukappabeta.net (moghedien.mukappabeta.net [194.145.150.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037EC43F3F for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:16:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mkb@moghedien.mukappabeta.net) Received: by moghedien.mukappabeta.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BF7CD2D2C; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 19:16:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 19:16:21 +0200 From: Matthias Buelow To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20030620171621.GA18410@moghedien.mukappabeta.net> References: <20030620155516.GC7055@tulip.epweb.co.za> <20030620170943.GB53684@rot13.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030620170943.GB53684@rot13.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: William Fletcher Subject: Re: Zsh fork bomb paniced my kernel. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:16:31 -0000 Kris Kennaway writes: >Yes, this is a FAQ, and why resource limits exist. man login.conf It needs to be fixed nevertheless. I reported something similar back in, I think, ca. 1996 (also against NetBSD, iirc). Not much has been done it that area since, as it seems. With my fork bomb, the system didn't panic but simply froze solid. The kernel must enforce freeing resources when they're used up. By killing random processes, trying to identify the culprit process(es), or whatever. Simply hanging or panicking is not an option. -- Matthias Buelow; mkb@{mukappabeta.de,informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de} ``Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem.'' -- William of Ockham (~1285-1349, "Occam's Razor") From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 10:44:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D471737B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from english-breakfast.cloud9.net (english-breakfast.cloud9.net [168.100.1.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400BF43F75 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:44:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@cloud9.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by english-breakfast.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5601ABB3 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from english-breakfast.cloud9.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (VaMailArmor-2.0.1.7) id 07283-38CA9778; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:44:25 -0400 Received: from earl-grey.cloud9.net (earl-grey.cloud9.net [168.100.1.1]) by english-breakfast.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C48ABB0 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:44:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Hennessy To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.7; VAE: 6.20.0.1; VDF: 6.20.0.13; host: english-breakfast.cloud9.net) Subject: Compiling Linuxthreads X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:44:27 -0000 I'm trying to compile Linuxthreads from ports on my FreeBSD 4.8 system here, and for some reason I keep getting this: You can use an experimental patch to reduce the number of condition variable triggered context switches by defining WITH_CONDWAIT_PATCH Some unsafe calls to exit() can be detected by defining LINUXTHREADS_DETECT_UNSAFE_EXIT, see files/README.FreeBSD for more info. ===> Extracting for linuxthreads-2.2.3_10 >> Checksum OK for glibc-linuxthreads-2.2.3.tar.gz. ===> Patching for linuxthreads-2.2.3_10 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for linuxthreads-2.2.3_10 ===> Configuring for linuxthreads-2.2.3_10 ===> Building for linuxthreads-2.2.3_10 Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/ports/devel/linuxthreads/work/linuxthreads-2.2.3_10/libgcc_r echo '#include ' > config.h echo '#include ' >> config.h echo '#include "gansidecl.h"' > tconfig.h echo '#include "i386/xm-i386.h"' >> tconfig.h echo '#include "i386/i386.h"' > tm.h echo '#include "i386/att.h"' >> tm.h echo '#include ' >> tm.h echo '#include "i386/freebsd.h"' >> tm.h echo '#include "i386/perform.h"' >> tm.h make: don't know how to make libgcc1.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/linuxthreads. I know that Linux binary compatibility is installed, as well as /usr/src/gnu (installed that today, machine was upgraded to 4.8 a couple of months ago) Any ideas on where I should look next? -- Mark P. Hennessy mark@cloud9.net From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 13:16:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DFFB37B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net (gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net [207.246.128.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DA043F75 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:16:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joek@mail.flyingcroc.net) Received: from mail.flyingcroc.net (zircon.staff.flyingcroc.net [207.246.150.92])h5KKGVAv074667 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EF36B9F.6090405@mail.flyingcroc.net> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:16:31 -0700 From: Joe Kelsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030515 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: /etc/libmap.conf MFC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:16:32 -0000 Does anyone have plans to MFC the /etc/libmap.conf functionality into stable? Just for curiosity, I tried the original patch on my stable sources and that patch applied with no errors. I have seen messages on CURRENT talking about fixes for various bugs, so I suspect that applying the original patch to my sources might cause problems. Anyway, this seems like just the kind of functionality to fix the "editing of shared libraries" problem I posted about earlier. It also does not seem like a real big deal to do an MFC for. /Joe From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 13:26:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DE737B401; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nd250009.gab.xdsl.ne.jp (nd250009.gab.xdsl.ne.jp [61.202.250.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869E043F85; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:26:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nork@FreeBSD.org) Received: from nd250009.gab.xdsl.ne.jp ([IPv6:2002:d312:f91e::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by nd250009.gab.xdsl.ne.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9/NinthNine) with ESMTP id h5KKQP1J061353 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 21 Jun 2003 05:26:27 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from nork@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 05:26:27 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200306202026.h5KKQP1J061353@nd250009.gab.xdsl.ne.jp> From: Norikatsu Shigemura To: stable@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <3EF36B9F.6090405@mail.flyingcroc.net> References: <3EF36B9F.6090405@mail.flyingcroc.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.2 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: mdodd@FreeBSD.org cc: Joe Kelsey Subject: Re: /etc/libmap.conf MFC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:26:29 -0000 On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:16:31 -0700 Joe Kelsey wrote: > Does anyone have plans to MFC the /etc/libmap.conf functionality into > stable? Just for curiosity, I tried the original patch on my stable > sources and that patch applied with no errors. I have seen messages on > CURRENT talking about fixes for various bugs, so I suspect that applying > the original patch to my sources might cause problems. > Anyway, this seems like just the kind of functionality to fix the > "editing of shared libraries" problem I posted about earlier. It also > does not seem like a real big deal to do an MFC for. That's good idea. I want this feature, too. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 14:44:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054BF37B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.hitmedia.com (mail.hitmedia.com [205.162.11.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AB5D43FE1 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:44:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryanlists@hostbaby.com) Received: (qmail 43535 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2003 21:44:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.columbia80.com.) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 21:44:46 -0000 From: Ryan O'Neill To: "Scott R. Sewall" , stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:44:46 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <3EF2A452.156DF49E@ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <3EF2A452.156DF49E@ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306201444.46417.ryanlists@hostbaby.com> Subject: Re: pst: timeout mfa=0x00327b90 cmd=WRITE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:44:56 -0000 On Thursday 19 June 2003 11:06 pm, Scott R. Sewall wrote: > I installed a Promise SuperTrak SX6000 ATA RAID controller on 4.8-RELEASE. > > The following message is logged when the device is under load (equivalent > of make release): pst: timeout mfa=0x00327b90 cmd=WRITE > > Should I be concerned? We haven't been :) We're using that same card and we've been getting those messages for both WRITE and READ occassionally ever since our came up 4 and a half months ago. We haven't noticed any problems relating to those errors in particular. Stuff seems to still work fine. bash-2.05b# gunzip /var/log/messages*.gz && \ > cat /var/log/messages* | grep "pst: timeout" | wc -l 529 The only thing that bugs me is the fact that the box takes about half an hour to reboot, even when the raid has been cleanly dismounted (don't even ask how long it takes when it needs to be fsk'ed). If you (or anyone) finds or has a better answer for the timeout error or the reboot thing, please do share :) -- HOSTBABY.COM - web hosting for musicians Ryan O'Neill - ryan@hostbaby.com http://www.hostbaby.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 14:45:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E17237B407 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.hispeed.ch (isp247n.hispeed.ch [62.2.95.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF06243FCB for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:45:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from llx@hispeed.ch) Received: from obelix.corebounce.org (dclient217-162-238-83.hispeed.ch [217.162.238.83])h5KLjDmW023073 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 23:45:13 +0200 From: llx To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 23:45:13 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200306202345.13435.llx@hispeed.ch> Subject: su: no directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:45:19 -0000 hi i've got the the problem that i can't su -l an my client machine. $ su -l admin su: no directory i can login locally, login via ssh, su -l root without any problems. SERVER: FreeBSD4.8 stabel (~ 1 week ago last cvs update) runs NIS, NFS, DNS, FTP, SAMBA, NTP CLIENT> FreeBSD5.1 release (rebuild kernel using KERNCONF=SMP) i didn't had problems with have no problems with the following clients: FreeBSD 5.0 (GENERIC), OpenBSD 3.2/3.3, Linux (Suse 8.1/8.2) what do i miss? below you see some infos from my client machine. cheers $ ls -ld / drwxr-xr-x 17 root wheel 512 Jun 20 22:46 / $ ls -ld /home lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Jun 20 22:46 /home -> /usr/home $ ls -ld /usr drwxr-xr-x 19 root wheel 512 Jun 20 19:04 /usr $ ls -ld /usr/home drwxr-xr-x 11 root wheel 512 Jun 17 11:54 /usr/home $ ls -l /usr/home/admin total 11 drwxrwx--- 17 admin core 1024 Jun 20 17:56 admin $ ypcat passwd | grep admin admin::::Administrator:/home/admin:/bin/sh $ ls -l /bin/sh -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 740848 Jun 5 03:54 /bin/sh $ mount /dev/ad0s2a on / (ufs, local) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/ad0s2e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s2f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s2d on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) frigi:/home on /usr/home (nfs, nodev, nosuid) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 14:52:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7C337B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.i-sphere.com (shell.i-sphere.com [207.126.121.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0320043F3F for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:52:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fasty@i-sphere.com) Received: from fasty-tvrz8i7n8.i-sphere.com (02-175.015.popsite.net [66.248.18.175]) by shell.i-sphere.com (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5KLpI5r075647; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:51:19 GMT (envelope-from fasty@i-sphere.com) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030620135138.00b84ca0@mail.i-sphere.com> X-Sender: fasty@mail.i-sphere.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:52:04 -0700 To: llx , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: fasty In-Reply-To: <200306202345.13435.llx@hispeed.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Subject: Re: su: no directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:52:10 -0000 try su - admin At 11:45 PM 6/20/2003 +0200, llx wrote: >hi > >i've got the the problem that i can't su -l an my client machine. > $ su -l admin > su: no directory >i can login locally, login via ssh, su -l root without any problems. > >SERVER: FreeBSD4.8 stabel (~ 1 week ago last cvs update) runs >NIS, NFS, DNS, FTP, SAMBA, NTP >CLIENT> FreeBSD5.1 release (rebuild kernel using KERNCONF=SMP) > >i didn't had problems with have no problems with the following clients: >FreeBSD 5.0 (GENERIC), OpenBSD 3.2/3.3, Linux (Suse 8.1/8.2) > >what do i miss? below you see some infos from my client machine. > >cheers > >$ ls -ld / >drwxr-xr-x 17 root wheel 512 Jun 20 22:46 / >$ ls -ld /home >lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Jun 20 22:46 /home -> /usr/home >$ ls -ld /usr >drwxr-xr-x 19 root wheel 512 Jun 20 19:04 /usr >$ ls -ld /usr/home >drwxr-xr-x 11 root wheel 512 Jun 17 11:54 /usr/home >$ ls -l /usr/home/admin >total 11 >drwxrwx--- 17 admin core 1024 Jun 20 17:56 admin >$ ypcat passwd | grep admin >admin::::Administrator:/home/admin:/bin/sh >$ ls -l /bin/sh >-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 740848 Jun 5 03:54 /bin/sh >$ mount >/dev/ad0s2a on / (ufs, local) >devfs on /dev (devfs, local) >/dev/ad0s2e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) >/dev/ad0s2f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) >/dev/ad0s2d on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) >frigi:/home on /usr/home (nfs, nodev, nosuid) > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 14:59:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6081837B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.hispeed.ch (isp247n.hispeed.ch [62.2.95.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D7C43F93 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:59:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from llx@hispeed.ch) Received: from obelix.corebounce.org (dclient217-162-238-83.hispeed.ch [217.162.238.83])h5KLxsbb025628; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 23:59:54 +0200 From: llx To: fasty , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 23:59:54 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030620135138.00b84ca0@mail.i-sphere.com> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030620135138.00b84ca0@mail.i-sphere.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306202359.54429.llx@hispeed.ch> Subject: Re: su: no directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:59:57 -0000 sorry already done. same result $ su - admin su: no directory On Friday 20 June 2003 22:52, fasty wrote: > try su - admin > > At 11:45 PM 6/20/2003 +0200, llx wrote: > >hi > > > >i've got the the problem that i can't su -l an my client > > machine. $ su -l admin > > su: no directory > >i can login locally, login via ssh, su -l root without any problems. > > > >SERVER: FreeBSD4.8 stabel (~ 1 week ago last cvs update) runs > >NIS, NFS, DNS, FTP, SAMBA, NTP > >CLIENT> FreeBSD5.1 release (rebuild kernel using KERNCONF=SMP) > > > >i didn't had problems with have no problems with the following clients: > >FreeBSD 5.0 (GENERIC), OpenBSD 3.2/3.3, Linux (Suse 8.1/8.2) > > > >what do i miss? below you see some infos from my client machine. > > > >cheers > > > >$ ls -ld / > >drwxr-xr-x 17 root wheel 512 Jun 20 22:46 / > >$ ls -ld /home > >lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Jun 20 22:46 /home -> /usr/home > >$ ls -ld /usr > >drwxr-xr-x 19 root wheel 512 Jun 20 19:04 /usr > >$ ls -ld /usr/home > >drwxr-xr-x 11 root wheel 512 Jun 17 11:54 /usr/home > >$ ls -l /usr/home/admin > >total 11 > >drwxrwx--- 17 admin core 1024 Jun 20 17:56 admin > >$ ypcat passwd | grep admin > >admin::::Administrator:/home/admin:/bin/sh > >$ ls -l /bin/sh > >-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 740848 Jun 5 03:54 /bin/sh > >$ mount > >/dev/ad0s2a on / (ufs, local) > >devfs on /dev (devfs, local) > >/dev/ad0s2e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) > >/dev/ad0s2f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) > >/dev/ad0s2d on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) > >frigi:/home on /usr/home (nfs, nodev, nosuid) > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 15:13:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1BE37B401; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [66.92.160.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32FD43FE9; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:10:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdodd@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [66.92.160.223]) by sasami.jurai.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5KMAv3q043864; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:10:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mdodd@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:10:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-X-Sender: winter@sasami.jurai.net To: Norikatsu Shigemura In-Reply-To: <200306202026.h5KKQP1J061353@nd250009.gab.xdsl.ne.jp> Message-ID: <20030620180948.F76384@sasami.jurai.net> References: <3EF36B9F.6090405@mail.flyingcroc.net> <200306202026.h5KKQP1J061353@nd250009.gab.xdsl.ne.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Joe Kelsey Subject: Re: /etc/libmap.conf MFC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:13:31 -0000 On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: ... > > "editing of shared libraries" problem I posted about earlier. It also > > does not seem like a real big deal to do an MFC for. > > That's good idea. I want this feature, too. You should upgrade to 5.1 if it has features that you want. Adding new features to the STABLE branch this late in its lifetime seems pointless. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | For Great Justice! | ISO8802.5 4ever | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 15:33:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB88137B401; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net (gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net [207.246.128.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A128D43FE3; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:30:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joek@mail.flyingcroc.net) Received: from mail.flyingcroc.net (zircon.staff.flyingcroc.net [207.246.150.92])h5KMUKAv082879; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EF38AFB.5040500@mail.flyingcroc.net> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:30:19 -0700 From: Joe Kelsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030515 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Matthew N. Dodd" References: <3EF36B9F.6090405@mail.flyingcroc.net> <200306202026.h5KKQP1J061353@nd250009.gab.xdsl.ne.jp> <20030620180948.F76384@sasami.jurai.net> In-Reply-To: <20030620180948.F76384@sasami.jurai.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Norikatsu Shigemura Subject: Re: /etc/libmap.conf MFC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:33:17 -0000 Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: > ... > >>>"editing of shared libraries" problem I posted about earlier. It also >>>does not seem like a real big deal to do an MFC for. >> >> That's good idea. I want this feature, too. > > > You should upgrade to 5.1 if it has features that you want. > > Adding new features to the STABLE branch this late in its lifetime seems > pointless. > Well, I think that I can always think of reasons that I may want to add features to older branches. I have not heard of anyone declaring 4-STABLE a dead branch, nor have I heard of anyone declaring 5-CURRENT as the imminent replacement of the -STABLE label. When I look at the libmap stuff, I see a very small, well contained change. I believe that this makes an ideal candidate for MFC. I can personally think of many benefits that accrue from the MFC of libmap, not the least of which revolve around improved user experience due to tighter integration of Mozilla plugins. If you know of the imminent demise of the 4-STABLE branch, please let me know. If you know of fatal bugs in libmap, please let me know. Otherwise, what roadblocks stand in the way of MFC? /Joe From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 15:59:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85D637B401; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [66.92.160.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14D343F3F; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:59:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdodd@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [66.92.160.223]) by sasami.jurai.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5KMxm3q045496; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:59:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mdodd@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:59:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-X-Sender: winter@sasami.jurai.net To: Joe Kelsey In-Reply-To: <3EF38AFB.5040500@mail.flyingcroc.net> Message-ID: <20030620185830.M76384@sasami.jurai.net> References: <3EF36B9F.6090405@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030620180948.F76384@sasami.jurai.net> <3EF38AFB.5040500@mail.flyingcroc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Norikatsu Shigemura Subject: Re: /etc/libmap.conf MFC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:59:51 -0000 On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Joe Kelsey wrote: > Otherwise, what roadblocks stand in the way of MFC? Someone (other than me) willing to do the work and take responsibility for its upkeep in -STABLE. I'm still not sure we should be encouraging new features in -STABLE; additional hardware support and bugfixes are one thing... -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | For Great Justice! | ISO8802.5 4ever | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 17:48:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D9D37B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zoot.lafn.org (zoot.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D6B43F85 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:48:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from lafn.org (host-66-81-16-112.rev.o1.com [66.81.16.112]) by zoot.lafn.org (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5L0mLwu069109 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:48:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:48:20 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Doug Hardie To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20020916211801.GA32190@fuzzilicious.fuzzynerd.com> Message-Id: <0DAFD736-A382-11D7-BA30-000393681B06@lafn.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Subject: 5.1 for production systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:48:23 -0000 Some time ago there was an announcement that people should not use 5.0 for critical production systems. Now that 5.1 is available, what is the consesous on it? Should it be used for critical production systems yet? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 17:50:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8668337B408 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moghedien.mukappabeta.net (moghedien.mukappabeta.net [194.145.150.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C1243F3F for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:50:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mkb@moghedien.mukappabeta.net) Received: by moghedien.mukappabeta.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8F0162D2C; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:50:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:50:48 +0200 From: Matthias Buelow To: Doug Hardie Message-ID: <20030621005047.GB19709@moghedien.mukappabeta.net> References: <20020916211801.GA32190@fuzzilicious.fuzzynerd.com> <0DAFD736-A382-11D7-BA30-000393681B06@lafn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0DAFD736-A382-11D7-BA30-000393681B06@lafn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.1 for production systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:51:00 -0000 Doug Hardie writes: >Some time ago there was an announcement that people should not use 5.0 >for critical production systems. Now that 5.1 is available, what is >the consesous on it? Should it be used for critical production systems >yet? If you can get it to boot... 5.x seems to be a bit picky about what machines it can be booted on. For example, on our HP Netserver LH Pro, that's a no-go (4.x installed fine, though). I've heard other reports, especially notebooks, where installing 5.x was still a bit on the rough edge (or plainly not working.) -- Matthias Buelow; mkb@{mukappabeta.de,informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de} ``Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem.'' -- William of Ockham (~1285-1349, "Occam's Razor") From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 17:52:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5380337B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5B143F93 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:52:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from rushlight (allbery@allbery.dsl.telerama.com [205.201.8.182]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h5L0qRY08612; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:52:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon S. Allbery " KF8NH To: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <0DAFD736-A382-11D7-BA30-000393681B06@lafn.org> References: <0DAFD736-A382-11D7-BA30-000393681B06@lafn.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1056156750.14438.3.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Date: 20 Jun 2003 20:52:30 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.1 for production systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:52:50 -0000 On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 20:48, Doug Hardie wrote: > Some time ago there was an announcement that people should not use 5.0 > for critical production systems. Now that 5.1 is available, what is > the consesous on it? Should it be used for critical production systems > yet? I seem to recall a strong suggestion when 5.0-R came out that production systems wait for at least 5.2-R, and preferably for when the 5-STABLE series appears. -- brandon s allbery [openafs/solaris/japh/freebsd] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [linux/heimdal/too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university [better check the oblivious first -ke6sls] From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 18:12:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CC537B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:12:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remt20.cluster1.charter.net (remt20.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.8.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8120A43F93 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:12:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.76.34] (HELO tarfu.uhring.com) by remt20.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 68284414; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:12:25 -0400 From: Dave Uhring To: Matthias Buelow , Doug Hardie Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:12:24 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <20020916211801.GA32190@fuzzilicious.fuzzynerd.com> <0DAFD736-A382-11D7-BA30-000393681B06@lafn.org> <20030621005047.GB19709@moghedien.mukappabeta.net> In-Reply-To: <20030621005047.GB19709@moghedien.mukappabeta.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306202012.24199.duhring@charter.net> cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.1 for production systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 01:12:32 -0000 On Friday 20 June 2003 07:50 pm, Matthias Buelow wrote: > Doug Hardie writes: > >Some time ago there was an announcement that people should not use > > 5.0 for critical production systems. Now that 5.1 is available, > > what is the consesous on it? Should it be used for critical > > production systems yet? > > If you can get it to boot... 5.x seems to be a bit picky about > what machines it can be booted on. For example, on our HP Netserver > LH Pro, that's a no-go (4.x installed fine, though). I've heard > other reports, especially notebooks, where installing 5.x was still > a bit on the rough edge (or plainly not working.) RELENG_5 does not seem to have been tagged yet. Does that look like it's stable enough yet? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 18:50:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDFD737B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-104-32.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.104.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12EE43F3F for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:50:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5931E66CFB; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2631A4AA; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:50:51 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Doug Hardie Message-ID: <20030621015051.GA62479@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <20020916211801.GA32190@fuzzilicious.fuzzynerd.com> <0DAFD736-A382-11D7-BA30-000393681B06@lafn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0DAFD736-A382-11D7-BA30-000393681B06@lafn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.1 for production systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 01:50:54 -0000 --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 05:48:20PM -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: > Some time ago there was an announcement that people should not use 5.0=20 > for critical production systems. Now that 5.1 is available, what is=20 > the consesous on it? Should it be used for critical production systems= =20 > yet? If you're worried and don't need any of the new features, wait until 5.x-STABLE. Kris --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+87n7Wry0BWjoQKURAtSdAJ9hRqr/q85Yv64BNqggZ59vmEtUXACePKvf iY6eJPd96hVyadBn1gdWcLQ= =P9j+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 21:28:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652EE37B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mobile.hub.org (u153n214.eastlink.ca [24.224.153.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733B043F3F for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:28:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: by mobile.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6DDD55AB; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 01:28:27 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mobile.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57948589; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 01:28:27 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 01:28:27 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Matthias Buelow In-Reply-To: <20030621005047.GB19709@moghedien.mukappabeta.net> Message-ID: <20030621012715.F51411@hub.org> References: <20020916211801.GA32190@fuzzilicious.fuzzynerd.com> <20030621005047.GB19709@moghedien.mukappabeta.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.1 for production systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 04:28:29 -0000 On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, Matthias Buelow wrote: > If you can get it to boot... 5.x seems to be a bit picky about what > machines it can be booted on. For example, on our HP Netserver LH Pro, > that's a no-go (4.x installed fine, though). I've heard other reports, > especially notebooks, where installing 5.x was still a bit on the rough > edge (or plainly not working.) Right now, I have it running on an old Sony VAIO notebook, a Dual Athlon server, and a Dual PIII (Tyan Mobo) ... haven't experienced any problems with any of them, but there is nothing running really heavy on either of them all, mostly 'desktop' stuff ... From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 23:48:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F203537B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 23:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web9903.mail.yahoo.com (web9903.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 94C8F43FAF for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 23:48:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweaky_81@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030621064815.6565.qmail@web9903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.41.224.3] by web9903.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 23:48:15 PDT Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 23:48:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Hristo Georgiev To: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030618200541.A40468@bofh.enst.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: SysLog Manipulation X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 06:48:16 -0000 How can eliminate the kernel from logging the following: Jun 18 12:45:40 georgi /kernel: arp: 10.39.224.2 moved from 00:b0:da:ac:dc:88 to 00:b0:da:ac:dc:89 on rl0 Jun 18 13:09:05 georgi /kernel: arp: 10.39.224.2 moved from 00:b0:da:ac:dc:89 to 00:b0:da:ac:dc:88 on rl0 Jun 18 13:10:32 georgi /kernel: arp: 10.39.224.2 moved from 00:b0:da:ac:dc:88 to 00:b0:da:ac:dc:89 on rl0 Jun 18 13:29:49 georgi /kernel: arp: 10.39.224.2 moved from 00:b0:da:ac:dc:89 to 00:b0:da:ac:dc:88 on rl0 Jun 18 13:29:49 georgi /kernel: arp: 10.39.224.2 moved from 00:b0:da:ac:dc:88 to 00:b0:da:ac:dc:89 on rl0 Jun 18 13:31:59 georgi /kernel: arp: 10.39.224.2 moved from 00:b0:da:ac:dc:89 to 00:b0:da:ac:dc:88 on rl0 There is a server on the network that has multiple interfaces and it is switching them over and over again all the time and fill my logs up with this. Is there a way to make it not log this particular event. Here is the output of `uname -a`: FreeBSD georgi.xxxxx.com 4.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #0: Thu Apr 3 10:53:38 GMT 2003 root@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 23:57:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4480937B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 23:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from geminix.org (gen129.n001.c02.escapebox.net [213.73.91.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770AE43F3F for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 23:57:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gemini@geminix.org) Received: from pd9e105c0.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.225.5.192] helo=geminix.org) by geminix.org with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19TcJ0-0009vu-00; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:56:58 +0200 Message-ID: <3EF401B7.70201@geminix.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:56:55 +0200 From: Uwe Doering Organization: Private UNIX Site User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030510 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: llx References: <200306202345.13435.llx@hispeed.ch> In-Reply-To: <200306202345.13435.llx@hispeed.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: su: no directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 06:57:01 -0000 Hi, llx wrote: > hi > > i've got the the problem that i can't su -l an my client machine. > $ su -l admin > su: no directory > i can login locally, login via ssh, su -l root without any problems. > [...] > $ ls -l /usr/home/admin > total 11 > drwxrwx--- 17 admin core 1024 Jun 20 17:56 admin Is the missing 'd' option in the command above just a typo in your email, or do you really have an 'admin' directory in the 'admin' home directory? What does ls -ld /usr/home/admin say, especially with regard to permissions? Uwe -- Uwe Doering | EscapeBox - Managed On-Demand UNIX Servers gemini@geminix.org | http://www.escapebox.net From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 00:27:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D8537B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zoot.lafn.org (zoot.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E0343F85 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:27:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from lafn.org (host-66-81-16-112.rev.o1.com [66.81.16.112]) by zoot.lafn.org (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5L7Qsrm071857; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:27:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:26:42 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) To: Kris Kennaway From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <20030621015051.GA62479@rot13.obsecurity.org> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.1 for production systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 07:27:59 -0000 On Friday, Jun 20, 2003, at 18:50 US/Pacific, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 05:48:20PM -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >> Some time ago there was an announcement that people should not use 5.0 >> for critical production systems. Now that 5.1 is available, what is >> the consesous on it? Should it be used for critical production >> systems >> yet? > > If you're worried and don't need any of the new features, wait until > 5.x-STABLE. Thanks to all. I think I will wait. It would be nice to have the ability to burn DVDs but that is not very essential. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 00:45:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB9B37B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out001.verizon.net (out001pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB5743FA3 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:45:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com ([141.149.47.46]) by out001.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20030621074526.IFDO12592.out001.verizon.net@mac.com> for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:45:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3EF40D15.6050400@mac.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 03:45:25 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030612 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3EF36B9F.6090405@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030620180948.F76384@sasami.jurai.net> <3EF38AFB.5040500@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030620185830.M76384@sasami.jurai.net> In-Reply-To: <20030620185830.M76384@sasami.jurai.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.76.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out001.verizon.net from [141.149.47.46] at Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:45:26 -0500 cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /etc/libmap.conf MFC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 07:45:28 -0000 Matthew N. Dodd wrote: [ ... ] > I'm still not sure we should be encouraging new features in -STABLE; > additional hardware support and bugfixes are one thing... Doesn't the term "MFC" refer to a change or new feature that has already been added to -CURRENT, and is under consideration for being backported to -STABLE because the change is important, of general interest and utility, etc? If the question is "when should new features not be merged back into 4.x", my response would be that should happen after 5.x is tagged as -STABLE and 5.x is being actively recommended for to all users including newbies, not just early adopters. If the concern is "is it better to spend time trying to get 5.x -STABLE then it is to spend time on 4.x", well, that makes perfect sense to me. -- -Chuck PS: What does not make much sense is 'releasing' a 'new version' of software which is not intended for the end userbase to actually use. Attempting to reduce the scope of problems with a .0 release is a noble goal, but good intentions can be taken too far. If a user asks "what version should I run" and the answer isn't "the latest release", well, that indicates a problem. If a release candidate isn't expected to be better than the prior numerical version for the end users, then the release candidate isn't ready. Perhaps I'm drifting off-topic a bit, but I remember administering Sun machines during the transition from SunOS 4.1.x to what marketting called Solaris 2.x. Sun didn't do itself or anyone else a favor with SunOS 5.0 through about 5.5; it wasn't until Solaris 2.5.1/SunOS 5.5.1 that Sun's customers got something significantly better than a .0 release, or (perhaps arguably) better than the prior major version. That really sucked, people, so please excuse my vehemence. [ Or don't. If the comparison between SunOS 5.x and FreeBSD 5.x earns me flames, rabid criticism, and the undying emnity of whomever, so be it. :-) ] From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 02:28:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBBD37B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (ip114.bella-vista.sfo.interquest.net [66.199.86.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C601943F3F for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:28:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5L9RrJa014631; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:27:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from das@localhost) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5L9RcZE014628; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:27:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:27:38 -0700 From: David Schultz To: Pete French Message-ID: <20030621092738.GA2401@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mail-Followup-To: Pete French , stable@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: procfs problems -cmdline turncated at 256 bytes ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 09:28:03 -0000 On Fri, Jun 20, 2003, Pete French wrote: > > running 4.8 stable, the cmdline file in /proc/$$ seems to be trucated > at, or before 256 bytes for very long command lines. I cant find > any refernec to this behaviour in the manpage, nor does google reveal > anything. I took a look in the source, but didnt properly understand what > was going on - the comments imply that it does give the full commandline > for the current process, however. > > any suggestions ? any alternative ways to get hold of the arguments from > within a running program (which doesnt have access to "main()"). You may be able to get this to work if you use dd with a large enough block size, assuming dd doesn't get confused by the extra EOFs. There's a similar issue with the code that prints the process' memory map, and in that case, making the transfer size larger works around the problem. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 02:45:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6770237B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.hispeed.ch (isp247n.hispeed.ch [62.2.95.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C2B43F85 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:45:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from llx@hispeed.ch) Received: from obelix.corebounce.org (dclient217-162-238-83.hispeed.ch [217.162.238.83])h5L9iwbb022447; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:44:58 +0200 From: llx To: Uwe Doering Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:44:58 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <200306202345.13435.llx@hispeed.ch> <3EF401B7.70201@geminix.org> In-Reply-To: <3EF401B7.70201@geminix.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306211144.58117.llx@hispeed.ch> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: su: no directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 09:45:01 -0000 On Saturday 21 June 2003 08:56, Uwe Doering wrote: > Hi, > > llx wrote: > > hi > > > > i've got the the problem that i can't su -l an my client > > machine. $ su -l admin > > su: no directory > > i can login locally, login via ssh, su -l root without any problems. > > [...] > > $ ls -l /usr/home/admin > > total 11 > > drwxrwx--- 17 admin core 1024 Jun 20 17:56 admin > > Is the missing 'd' option in the command above just a typo in your > email, or do you really have an 'admin' directory in the 'admin' home > directory? What does call it a typo. you see the total 11? just cut the remaining results. > ls -ld /usr/home/admin > > say, especially with regard to permissions? > $ ls -ld /usr/home/admin drwxrwx--- 17 admin core 1024 Jun 20 17:56 /usr/home/admin > Uwe From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 03:14:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0903837B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 03:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (ip114.bella-vista.sfo.interquest.net [66.199.86.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756BC43F3F for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 03:14:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5LAE3Jg049591; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 03:14:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from das@localhost) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5LA2NsU041244; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 03:02:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 03:02:23 -0700 From: David Schultz To: Doug Hardie Message-ID: <20030621100223.GD2401@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mail-Followup-To: Doug Hardie , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20020916211801.GA32190@fuzzilicious.fuzzynerd.com> <0DAFD736-A382-11D7-BA30-000393681B06@lafn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0DAFD736-A382-11D7-BA30-000393681B06@lafn.org> cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.1 for production systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:14:14 -0000 On Fri, Jun 20, 2003, Doug Hardie wrote: > Some time ago there was an announcement that people should not use 5.0 > for critical production systems. Now that 5.1 is available, what is > the consesous on it? Should it be used for critical production systems > yet? The most common problems reported have been related to ACPI. Other than that, 5.X has received a good deal of testing on desktop systems, with very positive results. But it has probably received less exposure on heavily loaded servers, so you should be wary that problems are possible. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 03:14:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091CC37B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 03:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (ip114.bella-vista.sfo.interquest.net [66.199.86.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6163143F75 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 03:14:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5LAE3Ja049591; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 03:14:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from das@localhost) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5L9hBFu022730; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:43:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:43:11 -0700 From: David Schultz To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20030621094311.GB2401@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mail-Followup-To: Kris Kennaway , William Fletcher , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20030620155516.GC7055@tulip.epweb.co.za> <20030620170943.GB53684@rot13.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030620170943.GB53684@rot13.obsecurity.org> cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG cc: William Fletcher Subject: Re: Zsh fork bomb paniced my kernel. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:14:35 -0000 On Fri, Jun 20, 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 05:55:16PM +0200, William Fletcher wrote: > > Hi, > > > > My machine just bombed when I did the following stupid command. > > :(){:|:};: > > Zsh chewed up everything on the machine... > > I ran it knowing I'd probably have to reboot. > > > > But, I hardly expected it to panic. > > > > Or, was that normal? > > Yes, this is a FAQ, and why resource limits exist. man login.conf I don't think we have resource limits for this particular DOS. The backtrace seems to indicate that he's filling the kernel map with pipe buffers, and the system always panics when the kernel map fills up. I would expect that we could solve the problem by using a separate map for pipe buffers, but that probably entails other issues I'm unaware of. Perhaps a PR should be filed. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 06:03:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661B437B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 06:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbtx.tmn.ru (sbtx.tmn.ru [212.76.160.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9384C43F3F for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 06:03:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serg@tmn.ru) Received: from sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru (sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru [212.76.160.59]) by sbtx.tmn.ru (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5LD2wMH070461; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 19:02:58 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from serg@tmn.ru) Received: from sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h5LD2wHa094253; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 19:02:58 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from serg@sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru) Received: (from serg@localhost) by sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h5LD2wh0094252; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 19:02:58 +0600 (YEKST) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 19:02:57 +0600 From: "Sergey N. Voronkov" To: Hristo Georgiev Message-ID: <20030621130257.GA94202@sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru> References: <20030618200541.A40468@bofh.enst.fr> <20030621064815.6565.qmail@web9903.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030621064815.6565.qmail@web9903.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SysLog Manipulation X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:03:03 -0000 On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 11:48:15PM -0700, Hristo Georgiev wrote: > How can eliminate the kernel from logging the > following: > Jun 18 12:45:40 georgi /kernel: arp: 10.39.224.2 moved > from 00:b0:da:ac:dc:88 to 00:b0:da:ac:dc:89 on rl0 > Jun 18 13:09:05 georgi /kernel: arp: 10.39.224.2 moved > from 00:b0:da:ac:dc:89 to 00:b0:da:ac:dc:88 on rl0 > Jun 18 13:10:32 georgi /kernel: arp: 10.39.224.2 moved > from 00:b0:da:ac:dc:88 to 00:b0:da:ac:dc:89 on rl0 > Jun 18 13:29:49 georgi /kernel: arp: 10.39.224.2 moved > from 00:b0:da:ac:dc:89 to 00:b0:da:ac:dc:88 on rl0 > Jun 18 13:29:49 georgi /kernel: arp: 10.39.224.2 moved > from 00:b0:da:ac:dc:88 to 00:b0:da:ac:dc:89 on rl0 > Jun 18 13:31:59 georgi /kernel: arp: 10.39.224.2 moved > from 00:b0:da:ac:dc:89 to 00:b0:da:ac:dc:88 on rl0 > > > There is a server on the network that has multiple > interfaces and it is switching them over and over > again all the time and fill my logs up with this. Is > there a way to make it not log this particular event. > > Here is the output of `uname -a`: > FreeBSD georgi.xxxxx.com 4.8-RELEASE FreeBSD > 4.8-RELEASE #0: Thu Apr 3 10:53:38 GMT 2003 > root@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > i386 Try to look at this sysctl: net.link.ether.inet.log_arp_wrong_iface: 1 Serg N. Voronkov, Sibitex JSC, Tyumen, Russia. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 10:16:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B08237B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:16:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blue.icn.pl (blue.icn.pl [212.182.96.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E8D5343F93 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:16:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n0n4m3@blue.icn.pl) Received: (qmail 97527 invoked by uid 2074); 21 Jun 2003 17:16:00 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 17:16:00 -0000 Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 19:16:00 +0200 (CEST) From: n0n4m3 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030615205816.Q10766@blue.icn.pl> Message-ID: <20030621191138.Y97314@blue.icn.pl> References: <20030614053608.GB8466@laptop.lambertfam.org> <20030615205816.Q10766@blue.icn.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: need mail client X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:16:05 -0000 Hi, I am looking for a mail client, like outlook express from windows. I need download my mail from commercial mail server. Can i use pine for this ?, or mayby someone know what progs i have to use.? thanks all. Marek Bajus From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 10:53:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47E337B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D4F43FA3 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:53:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from edhall@screech.weirdnoise.com) Received: from screech.weirdnoise.com ([64.170.120.246]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.6 (built Oct 18 2002)) with ESMTP id <0HGU007IJF0IWK@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from screech.weirdnoise.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h5LHqXDw068635; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:52:33 -0700 Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:52:33 -0700 From: Ed Hall In-reply-to: Message from Doug Hardie "of Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:26:42 PDT." To: Doug Hardie Message-id: <200306211752.h5LHqXDw068635@screech.weirdnoise.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.1 for production systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:53:09 -0000 On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:26:42 PDT, Doug Hardie wrote: > Thanks to all. I think I will wait. It would be nice to have the > ability to burn DVDs but that is not very essential. You should be able to burn DVD's under 4.8-STABLE (or -RELEASE) just fine, using a variety of tools (both the dvd+rw+r tools Matt ported and, for the limited set of drives it supports, dvdrecord). What made you think that only 5.1 supported DVD burning? -Ed edhall@weirdnoise.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 11:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6B737B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gargoyle.bazzle.com (dhcp9551060.columbus.rr.com [24.95.51.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 86AE243FA3 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:10:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ejc@bazzle.com) Received: (qmail 39720 invoked by uid 1000); 21 Jun 2003 18:10:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 18:10:32 -0000 Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:10:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Eric J. Chet" To: Message-ID: <20030621140824.O39714-100000@gargoyle.bazzle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: garbled top display X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:10:36 -0000 Hello Just a sanity check. I'm seeing a garbled display with top. I rebuild kernel and world a couple times, I even rm -rf /usr/include to make sure I was up to date. Anybody else seeing this? Thanks, Eric From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 11:26:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CE237B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-out.comcast.net (smtp-out.comcast.net [24.153.64.109]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CD543F3F for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:26:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from diz@linuxpowered.com) Received: from linuxpowered.com (12-207-29-80.client.attbi.com [12.207.29.80]) by mtaout05.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HGU00LRSGKKXD@mtaout05.icomcast.net> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:26:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:26:25 -0500 From: Jon Disnard To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <3EF4A351.8030003@linuxpowered.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 Subject: stale subscription X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:26:46 -0000 Hello, I get mail from this list (freebsd-stable@), yet mailman server claims that I'm not subscribed. Any attempt to unsubscribe via conventional means results in failure. I have sent mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org, and have sent mail to the list directly with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and the main body. Somebody please remove "diz@linuxpowered.com" from the stable@ list. Thanks in advance! From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 12:05:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC4337B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from traven9.uol.com.br (traven9.uol.com.br [200.221.29.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9389043F85 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:05:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fallenbr@uol.com.br) Received: from localhost ([200.161.253.185]) by traven9.uol.com.br (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA20011 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 16:05:14 -0300 (BRT) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 16:04:03 -0300 From: Konrad Scorciapino To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030621160403.3f018c57.fallenbr@uol.com.br> In-Reply-To: <20030621191138.Y97314@blue.icn.pl> References: <20030614053608.GB8466@laptop.lambertfam.org> <20030615205816.Q10766@blue.icn.pl> <20030621191138.Y97314@blue.icn.pl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: need mail client X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 19:05:20 -0000 Hi, > Hi, I am looking for a mail client, like outlook express from windows. > I need download my mail from commercial mail server. > Can i use pine for this ?, or mayby someone know what progs i have to > use.? Look for Sylpheed. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 15:21:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF3637B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 15:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moghedien.mukappabeta.net (moghedien.mukappabeta.net [194.145.150.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741F143FA3 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 15:21:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mkb@moghedien.mukappabeta.net) Received: by moghedien.mukappabeta.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 266202D2C; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 00:20:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 00:20:50 +0200 From: Matthias Buelow To: Konrad Scorciapino Message-ID: <20030621222050.GA22432@moghedien.mukappabeta.net> References: <20030614053608.GB8466@laptop.lambertfam.org> <20030615205816.Q10766@blue.icn.pl> <20030621191138.Y97314@blue.icn.pl> <20030621160403.3f018c57.fallenbr@uol.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030621160403.3f018c57.fallenbr@uol.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: need mail client X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 22:21:03 -0000 Konrad Scorciapino writes: >Look for Sylpheed. Which is next to useless for IMAP unless you've got a 100mbit connection to the IMAP server. Much better behaving is Mozilla Mail, and possibly pine (where you can at least abort transfers without having to kill the application.) -- Matthias Buelow; mkb@{mukappabeta.de,informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de} ``Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem.'' -- William of Ockham (~1285-1349, "Occam's Razor") From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 17:19:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805D137B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:19:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lamneth.kicks-ass.net (pool-141-149-185-108.bos.east.verizon.net [141.149.185.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15F2843FBD for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:19:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yousif@alumni.jmu.edu) Received: (qmail 30921 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2003 00:17:53 -0000 Received: from alderaan.tellurian.net (HELO alderaan) (192.168.0.67) by pool-141-149-185-108.bos.east.verizon.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 00:17:53 -0000 Message-ID: <000c01c33854$00f6abc0$4300a8c0@alderaan> From: "Yousif Hassan" To: References: <20030614053608.GB8466@laptop.lambertfam.org><20030615205816.Q10766@blue.icn.pl> <20030621191138.Y97314@blue.icn.pl><20030621160403.3f018c57.fallenbr@uol.com.br> <20030621222050.GA22432@moghedien.mukappabeta.net> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:19:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: need mail client X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Yousif Hassan List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 00:19:49 -0000 KMail, which comes with the KDE desktop environment, is a good GUI-based client. KDE 3.x has been ported to FreeBSD. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthias Buelow" To: "Konrad Scorciapino" Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:20 PM Subject: Re: need mail client > Konrad Scorciapino writes: > > >Look for Sylpheed. > > Which is next to useless for IMAP unless you've got a 100mbit connection > to the IMAP server. Much better behaving is Mozilla Mail, and possibly > pine (where you can at least abort transfers without having to kill the > application.) > > -- > Matthias Buelow; mkb@{mukappabeta.de,informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de} > > ``Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem.'' > -- William of Ockham (~1285-1349, "Occam's Razor") > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 20:08:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD5C37B401; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56E743FCB; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:08:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5M38LKJ037715; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:08:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost)h5M38LfN037712; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:08:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:08:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: "Matthew N. Dodd" In-Reply-To: <20030620180948.F76384@sasami.jurai.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Norikatsu Shigemura cc: Joe Kelsey Subject: Re: /etc/libmap.conf MFC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 03:08:34 -0000 On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: > ... > > > "editing of shared libraries" problem I posted about earlier. It also > > > does not seem like a real big deal to do an MFC for. > > > > That's good idea. I want this feature, too. > > You should upgrade to 5.1 if it has features that you want. > > Adding new features to the STABLE branch this late in its lifetime seems > pointless. 4.x will likely live on both in development and production for quite a long time, and will therefore likely see MFC's of much larger things than libmap.conf support. That said, if you're not willing to backport/maintain it in 4.x, I agree that it will need to find an owner in order to make it to 4.x :-). Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects robert@fledge.watson.org Network Associates Laboratories From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 20:12:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F6A37B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F6643F75 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:12:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5M3CQKJ037759; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:12:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost)h5M3CQ3W037756; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:12:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:12:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Hristo Georgiev In-Reply-To: <20030621064815.6565.qmail@web9903.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SysLog Manipulation X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 03:12:39 -0000 On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Hristo Georgiev wrote: > How can eliminate the kernel from logging the > following: > Jun 18 12:45:40 georgi /kernel: arp: 10.39.224.2 moved > from 00:b0:da:ac:dc:88 to 00:b0:da:ac:dc:89 on rl0 > Jun 18 13:09:05 georgi /kernel: arp: 10.39.224.2 moved > from 00:b0:da:ac:dc:89 to 00:b0:da:ac:dc:88 on rl0 > Jun 18 13:10:32 georgi /kernel: arp: 10.39.224.2 moved > from 00:b0:da:ac:dc:88 to 00:b0:da:ac:dc:89 on rl0 > Jun 18 13:29:49 georgi /kernel: arp: 10.39.224.2 moved > from 00:b0:da:ac:dc:89 to 00:b0:da:ac:dc:88 on rl0 > Jun 18 13:29:49 georgi /kernel: arp: 10.39.224.2 moved > from 00:b0:da:ac:dc:88 to 00:b0:da:ac:dc:89 on rl0 > Jun 18 13:31:59 georgi /kernel: arp: 10.39.224.2 moved > from 00:b0:da:ac:dc:89 to 00:b0:da:ac:dc:88 on rl0 > > There is a server on the network that has multiple interfaces and it is > switching them over and over again all the time and fill my logs up with > this. Is there a way to make it not log this particular event. There's a sysctl for this in -CURRENT, net.link.ether.inet.log_arp_movements; I don't see this on my -STABLE boxes, so I guess it hasn't been merged. I'll merge it tomorrow if no one else has done so by then. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects robert@fledge.watson.org Network Associates Laboratories