From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 03:55:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871D416A4D0 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:55:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.olc.edu (mail.olc.edu [209.159.193.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C106543D53 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:55:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from estover@olc.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.89] (host-14-37-230-24.midco.net [24.230.37.14]) by mail.olc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9O3rFGb072719 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:53:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from estover@olc.edu) From: Ed Stover To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Oglala Lakota College Message-Id: <1098590132.32627.20.camel@red> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-7) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:55:32 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (mail.olc.edu [209.159.193.18]); Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:53:16 -0600 (MDT) Subject: RE.Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: estover@olc.edu List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:55:35 -0000 OK here are some links from netcraft.. my favorite is the uptime link longest uptime. http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html Most requested websites http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/requested.html (lots of windows there, just ask any one of the establishments on the list with M$ OS and ask them what the cost is to sustain there systems) Hi I have tried searching for this but i only get reports made by students and private programmers, i trust a programmer more than a large corporation any day but to show a person i know and convince him i need some serious investigations made by large corporations into comparing BSD and Windows systems in various areas. I would love to get some links that some of you have in your bookmarks on this. The person i'm trying to convince is a hardcore MS fan so i need real evidence of why BSD is better than MS products in server environments. Some friends of mine have told me that yahoo, msn and microsoft all use FreeBSD but until i can show him that and prove it to him that means nothing. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 04:09:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646AC16A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:09:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grover.logicsquad.net (ppp48-214.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.48.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E477543D45 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:09:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paulh@logicsquad.net) Received: (qmail 17841 invoked by uid 1000); 24 Oct 2004 04:09:08 -0000 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:39:08 +0930 From: "Paul A. Hoadley" To: Dru Message-ID: <20041024040908.GC99061@grover.logicsquad.net> References: <20041023090741.U562@dru.domain.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041023090741.U562@dru.domain.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD Success Stories X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:09:11 -0000 --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 09:08:05AM -0400, Dru wrote: > http://linux.oreilly.com/news/bsd_ss.pdf There are a couple of XML-style entities lurking on page 3: "... two NICs — one for ..." "... need — Adobe Acrobat ..." --=20 Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBeyrk730Z/jysbzIRAom6AJsG1hon6u+ZjlWcLb5y52rjVeQgbwCfbRsR ahm0A57oSkPBrC4HnVWui6A= =tOl7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2-- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 04:12:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D29D16A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:12:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BC243D1D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:12:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jon.drews@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so257257rnk for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:12:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=TUB3RtrY0G3fR9O7DrJWJZuR+efIyHQH2iGrMIjdHKdHQonGjRlGf/tjGC/YRZkTpOzuL+WcKnAxzjp41c+q9gWv76fx+NOnNcLVTMijDn2WCcjESOA4YUHAQ17cPfJJa2mBbvkA/SIvgLB5qS3hfqOL8hwzjZ0F044iega+u88= Received: by 10.38.82.50 with SMTP id f50mr469454rnb; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.89.32 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8cb27cbf04102321126dc8d4a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:12:11 -0600 From: Jon Drews To: estover@olc.edu In-Reply-To: <1098590132.32627.20.camel@red> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1098590132.32627.20.camel@red> cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RE.Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jon Drews List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:12:14 -0000 On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:55:32 -0600, Ed Stover wrote: > better than MS products in server environments. > > Some friends of mine have told me that yahoo, msn and microsoft all use > FreeBSD but until i can show him that and prove it to him that means > nothing. The fact that MSN and Microsoft used FreeBSD was in two articles that appeared in the Wall Street Journal. The reporter went on to point out the iorny of Microsoft using Open Source secretly while vilifying it publicly. http://zdnet.com.com/2100-11-530081.html Excerpt: Is Microsoft secretly using open source? By Lee Gomes The Wall Street Journal Online June 17, 2001, 5:00 PM PT FreeBSD used on Hotmail? But Microsoft's statements Friday suggest the company has itself been taking advantage of the very technology it has insisted would bring dire consequences to others. "I am appalled at the way Microsoft bashes open source on the one hand, while depending on it for its business on the other," said Marshall Kirk McKusick, a leader of the FreeBSD development team.... ...But Friday, Microsoft conceded FreeBSD was still being used at Hotmail on machines that track advertising and that run a crucial Internet function known as "DNS hosting." A Microsoft spokesman said he couldn't explain why Microsoft had given out incorrect information on the topic.... ...But one employee of the Redmond, Wash., company said Microsoft has deliberately kept FreeBSD in parts of Hotmail because of its technical superiority over Windows in important functions and furthermore had decided to actually increase its reliance on FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 04:27:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57F516A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:27:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6095543D46 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:27:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jon.drews@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so257695rnk for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:27:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=tJU90Aa5iTVpYmeoo/c5FZLt1BanMcLKzpefEYTeDxF0T71BZ4R+WR0DrjjsS+e1Ub4Nj+tuA9aDBi54tqGrfohj6vhpEcv1iEIgS6i38O6d5VVuMegoxQe+3tvMKTxI1ikrp+Gb7BPsV3BMsiXVbdiP5BwgJzomz6xL7A2Xres= Received: by 10.38.15.13 with SMTP id 13mr483884rno; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.89.32 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8cb27cbf04102321272a2cd9f6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:27:10 -0600 From: Jon Drews To: estover@olc.edu In-Reply-To: <1098590132.32627.20.camel@red> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1098590132.32627.20.camel@red> cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RE.Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jon Drews List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:27:11 -0000 More information here Ed and others. I actually came across the Microsoft site that offered gcc for it's UNIX tools. I couldn't believe it when I saw it: Microsoft uses open source, despite critical stance http://iwsun4.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/01/06/27/010627hnmsfree.html By Matt Berger June 27, 2001 12:10 pm PT DESPITE MICROSOFT'S AGGRESSIVE criticism of the open-source movement -- most notably one of its flagship software licences, the GNU General Public License -- the company has quietly been publishing source code under that license for one of its own products for the past two years... ...Microsoft distributes a product called Interix, which is used by customers to port Unix applications to its Windows operating systems. Interix includes a software compiler called the GCC (GNU Compiler Collection), a product first developed by Free Software Foundation founder Richard Stallman that is covered by the General Public License (GPL). -------------------------- Here is the actual site: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sfu/productinfo/overview/default.asp EXCERPT: UNIX on Windows The Interix subsystem technology provides a universal environment that can run both Windows and UNIX applications on a single system. Through Interix, you can reduce development time while making use of existing employee skill sets. Windows Services for UNIX 3.5 also includes more than 300 UNIX utilities and tools that behave as they would on UNIX systems, plus a software development kit (SDK) that supports more than 1,900 UNIX APIs and migration tools, including make, rcs, yacc, lex, cc, c89, nm, strip, gbd, as well as the gcc, g++, and g77 compilers. On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:55:32 -0600, Ed Stover wrote: > The person i'm trying > to convince is a hardcore MS fan so i need real evidence of why BSD is > better than MS products in server environments. So if FreeBSD and Open Source are unworthy replacements for Windows how come all these tools are being sold by them? From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 04:40:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F60216A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:40:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.olc.edu (mail.olc.edu [209.159.193.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7EF343D31 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:40:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from estover@olc.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.89] (host-14-37-230-24.midco.net [24.230.37.14]) by mail.olc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9O4bkbb073983 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:37:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from estover@olc.edu) From: Ed Stover To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Oglala Lakota College Message-Id: <1098592804.520.7.camel@red> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-7) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:40:04 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (mail.olc.edu [209.159.193.18]); Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:37:47 -0600 (MDT) Subject: oops X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: estover@olc.edu List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:40:06 -0000 Sorry ppls, my email was a reply to an earlier email from Stefan .... I didn't mean to steal the question. Once again my apolgees, sniff sniff... From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 04:40:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D228416A4D8 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:40:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wellbuiltnetworks.com (ip-66-80-73-52.iad.megapath.net [66.80.73.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E1E443D39 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:40:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derek@zeanah.com) Received: (qmail 6368 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2004 04:40:01 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis-ng-0.1.6.4-03dc on block.wellbuiltnetworks.com Received: from pc-00010.wellbuiltnetworks.com (HELO [192.168.9.10]) (192.168.9.10) by block.wellbuiltnetworks.com (192.168.9.1) with ESMTP; 24 Oct 2004 04:40:00 -0000 Message-ID: <417B3219.30209@zeanah.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:39:53 -0400 From: Derek Zeanah Organization: www.wellbuiltnetworks.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dru References: <20041023090741.U562@dru.domain.org> In-Reply-To: <20041023090741.U562@dru.domain.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on block.wellbuiltnetworks.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP,WEIRD_PORT autolearn=ham version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD Success Stories X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: derek@zeanah.com List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:40:12 -0000 This should be available here: http://www.wellbuiltnetworks.com/downloads/bsd_ss_flyer.pdf If you could, could someone try and download this via bittorrent as well? http://66.80.73.52:6969 will get you there. Don't need the torrent for bandwidth reasons; just want to make sure everything's running as smoothly as it should be. Thanks. Dru wrote: > > At long last! The stories have been formatted and a flyer is available > for distribution. > > The stories themselves are available at: > > http://linux.oreilly.com/news/bsd_ss.pdf > > The printable advertising flyer is in PDF and approximately 950 KB in > size. Right now, I'm looking for websites interested in hosting the > flyer. Til then, anyone who wants a copy and can receive an attachment > that size, let me know and I'll send you a copy. > > Again, a big thanks to all who contributed :-) > > Dru > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Derek Zeanah www.wellbuiltnetworks.com 904.294.0355 (voice) 904.443.7701 (fax) From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 06:12:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB3816A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:12:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.surferz.net (64-80-52-19-access.surferz.net [64.80.52.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F366C43D2D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:12:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marina@surferz.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.surferz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E8F149A3C for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:11:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.surferz.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27098-03-6 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:11:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from surferz.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.surferz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F1F149965 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:11:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <417B4751.3080706@surferz.net> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:10:25 -0400 From: Marina Brown User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040805) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: advocacy@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at surferz.net Subject: BSD success Flyer X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:12:01 -0000 http://e271.net/~marina/bsd_ss.pdf From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 07:16:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365D216A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:16:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.nativenerds.com (host-70-0-111-24.midco.net [24.111.0.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9537243D53 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:16:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from estover@nativenerds.com) Received: from [192.168.1.89] (host-14-37-230-24.midco.net [24.230.37.14]) by mail.nativenerds.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9O7IS8L030525 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 01:18:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from estover@nativenerds.com) From: Ed Stover To: advocacy@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Native Nerds Message-Id: <1098602209.520.23.camel@red> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-7) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 01:16:49 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.70, clamav-milter version 0.70j Subject: A little logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: estover@nativenerds.com List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:16:52 -0000 Um, here is a little logo that I made for us native freeBSD hackers and BSD hackers alike. Every one is welcome to use it. It is a little big (218k) http://www.nativenerds.com/nnlogo.png From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 12:32:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD4A16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:32:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts5.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA5B43D2D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:32:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dlavigne6@sympatico.ca) Received: from [192.168.2.87] ([64.230.164.154]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.netESMTP <20041024123223.CYPO29162.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@[192.168.2.87]>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:32:23 -0400 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:37:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Dru X-X-Sender: dlavigne6@dru.domain.org To: "Paul A. Hoadley" In-Reply-To: <20041024040908.GC99061@grover.logicsquad.net> Message-ID: <20041024083654.F562@dru.domain.org> References: <20041023090741.U562@dru.domain.org> <20041024040908.GC99061@grover.logicsquad.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD Success Stories X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:32:25 -0000 On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Paul A. Hoadley wrote: > On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 09:08:05AM -0400, Dru wrote: > >> http://linux.oreilly.com/news/bsd_ss.pdf > > There are a couple of XML-style entities lurking on page 3: > > "... two NICs — one for ..." > "... need — Adobe Acrobat ..." Yes, I sent O'Reilly an errata of a dozen or so formatting errors and typos last night. Dru From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 13:58:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A6E16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:58:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from phoenix.gargantuan.com (phoenix.gargantuan.com [24.73.171.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B58F43D48 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:58:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michael@gargantuan.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.gargantuan.com [127.0.0.1]) by spamassassin-injector (Postfix) with SMTP id BD8BA12; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:58:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by phoenix.gargantuan.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C4B3B580; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:58:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:58:29 -0400 From: "Michael W. Oliver" To: Dru Message-ID: <20041024135829.GA80968@gargantuan.com> Mail-Followup-To: Dru , advocacy@freebsd.org References: <20041023090741.U562@dru.domain.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wac7ysb48OaltWcw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041023090741.U562@dru.domain.org> X-WWW-Site: http://michael.gargantuan.com X-PGP-Public-Key: $X-WWW-Site/gnupg/pubkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 2694 0179 AE3F BFAE 0916 0BF5 B16B FBAB C5FA A3C9 X-Home-Phone: +1-863-816-8091 X-Mobile-Phone: +1-863-738-2334 X-Home-Address0: 8008 Apache Lane X-Home-Address1: Lakeland, FL X-Home-Address2: 33810-2172 X-Home-Address3: United States of America X-Good-Question-Guide: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html X-Netiquette-Guidelines: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-DCC: dmv.com: phoenix.gargantuan.com 1181; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on phoenix.gargantuan.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Pyzor: Reported 0 times. cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD Success Stories X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:58:49 -0000 --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2004-10-23T09:08:05-0400, Dru wrote: >=20 > At long last! The stories have been formatted and a flyer is available fo= r=20 > distribution. >=20 > The stories themselves are available at: >=20 > http://linux.oreilly.com/news/bsd_ss.pdf >=20 > The printable advertising flyer is in PDF and approximately 950 KB in siz= e.=20 > Right now, I'm looking for websites interested in hosting the flyer. Til= =20 > then, anyone who wants a copy and can receive an attachment that size, le= t=20 > me know and I'll send you a copy. Excellent work as always Dru! http://michael.gargantuan.com/bsd_ss.pdf If you can send me a copy of the advertising flyer, I can host that, too. Thanks. --=20 Michael W. Oliver [see complete headers for contact information] --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBe7UFsWv7q8X6o8kRAiuIAKCcThHUY+9UujbI0EHxGdYVz8EJgwCgw2sp 8N7BX+3kg9WiwF3x7D6mpMM= =flcL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wac7ysb48OaltWcw-- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 15:11:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8209F16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:11:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from htlisp8.htldom.com (htlisp8.huntel.net [209.74.232.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DBB43D4C for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:11:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tgoshinski@huntel.net) Received: from amenra (unverified [209.74.238.101]) by huntel.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 6.0.11) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:11:28 -0500 From: "Timothy Goshinski" To: "Dru" , Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:11:28 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20041023090741.U562@dru.domain.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: BSD Success Stories X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:11:29 -0000 Dru wrote: > The printable advertising flyer is in PDF and approximately 950 > KB in size. > Right now, I'm looking for websites interested in hosting the > flyer. Til then, > anyone who wants a copy and can receive an attachment that size, > let me know > and I'll send you a copy. > > Again, a big thanks to all who contributed :-) > > Dru > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Thanks Dru! I have a copy up at http://www.code-chimp.net/bsd_ss.pdf. I am interested in hosting a copy of the advertising flyer also, and I should have no problem receiving an attachment of that size. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 10:17:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B99116A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:17:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D68143D2D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:17:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])i9PAHS1a026782; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:17:42 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) i9PAHK4i001675; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:17:20 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost)i9PAHIN6001674; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:17:18 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:17:18 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Dru Message-ID: <20041025101717.GA1632@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20041023090741.U562@dru.domain.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD Success Stories X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:17:54 -0000 Dru wrote: > The printable advertising flyer is in PDF and approximately 950 > KB in size. > Right now, I'm looking for websites interested in hosting the > flyer. Til then, > anyone who wants a copy and can receive an attachment that size, > let me know > and I'll send you a copy. > > Again, a big thanks to all who contributed :-) Both the flyer and the bsd_ss.pdf files are now available on my weblog too: http://keramida.serverhive.com/weblog/archives/bsd-success-stories Super cool work ;-) From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 19:08:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9160616A57C for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:08:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A8243D2F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:08:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dlavigne6@sympatico.ca) Received: from [192.168.2.87] ([64.230.164.154]) by tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.netESMTP <20041025190713.RPRQ7954.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@[192.168.2.87]>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:07:14 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:12:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Dru X-X-Sender: dlavigne6@dru.domain.org To: "Person, Roderick" In-Reply-To: <4BA256918ACE7449BD7896E65711C88B06248657@1UPMC-MSX8.isdip.upmc.edu> Message-ID: <20041025150548.R690@dru.domain.org> References: <4BA256918ACE7449BD7896E65711C88B06248657@1UPMC-MSX8.isdip.upmc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: RE: BSD Success Stories X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:08:12 -0000 On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Person, Roderick wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Dru >> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 9:08 AM >> To: advocacy@freebsd.org >> Subject: BSD Success Stories >> >> >> >> At long last! The stories have been formatted and a flyer is >> available for >> distribution. >> >> The stories themselves are available at: >> >> http://linux.oreilly.com/news/bsd_ss.pdf >> > > > After 5 years, Today I finally convinced the sr. network guy to try FreeBSD! > He said I just badgered him into it finally, and the sending of this PDF was > the final key. THANKS!! > > Maybe now they'll let me switch my web server to FreeBSD/Apache instead of > the Win2k/Apache it is. Cool :-) With your permission, Roderick, I'd like to forward your email to my editor at O'Reilly. And, anyone else on the list who either appreciated the PDF or have good results from it, _please_ take a minute to compose an appreciative email to O'Reilly. Right now, their impression is that there isn't much of a BSD market and that publishing "BSD Success Stories" wouldn't have much of an impact. That impression will never change if BSD users don't speak up. Dru From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 09:08:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF0216A4F0 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:08:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sneezy.bossbox.com (sneezy.bossbox.com [83.245.10.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0EA43D41 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:08:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@sneezy.bossbox.com) Received: from [83.245.10.34] ([83.245.10.34]) by sneezy.bossbox.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9R93cc8092922; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:03:38 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from brian@sneezy.bossbox.com) Message-ID: <417F6526.8040201@sneezy.bossbox.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:06:46 +0100 From: Brian User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dru References: <4BA256918ACE7449BD7896E65711C88B06248657@1UPMC-MSX8.isdip.upmc.edu> <20041025150548.R690@dru.domain.org> In-Reply-To: <20041025150548.R690@dru.domain.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD Success Stories X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:08:36 -0000 Dru wrote: > > > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Person, Roderick wrote: > >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Dru >>> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 9:08 AM >>> To: advocacy@freebsd.org >>> Subject: BSD Success Stories >>> >>> >>> >>> At long last! The stories have been formatted and a flyer is >>> available for >>> distribution. >>> >>> The stories themselves are available at: >>> >>> http://linux.oreilly.com/news/bsd_ss.pdf >>> >> >> >> After 5 years, Today I finally convinced the sr. network guy to try >> FreeBSD! >> He said I just badgered him into it finally, and the sending of this >> PDF was >> the final key. THANKS!! >> >> Maybe now they'll let me switch my web server to FreeBSD/Apache >> instead of >> the Win2k/Apache it is. > > > > Cool :-) With your permission, Roderick, I'd like to forward your > email to my editor at O'Reilly. > > And, anyone else on the list who either appreciated the PDF or have > good results from it, _please_ take a minute to compose an > appreciative email to O'Reilly. Right now, their impression is that > there isn't much of a BSD > market and that publishing "BSD Success Stories" wouldn't have much of > an impact. That impression will never change if BSD users don't speak up. > > Dru > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Execellent! I've brought this to the attention of our customer implementation team, To add to our portfolio a complete managed FreeBSD soloution . As we are one of the biggest housing centere's in europe we hope to offer this and market it on a very large scale. I'll keep the advocacy list updated on our progress. Many thanks for your time Dru.