From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 22:44:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 664) id D4E7116A4CF; Sun, 4 Jan 2004 22:44:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 22:44:15 -0800 From: David O'Brien To: James Van Artsdalen Message-ID: <20040105064415.GA49437@hub.freebsd.org> References: <200401040714.i047EDbt019471@bigtex.jrv.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200401040714.i047EDbt019471@bigtex.jrv.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMBFS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 06:44:15 -0000 On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 01:14:13AM -0600, James Van Artsdalen wrote: > > I'm beginning to wonder if there might be a bug instead of just an > > incorrect config file. > > In nb_enum_if() in /usr/src/contrib/smbfs/lib/smb/nb_net.c, this code > traverses all of the net interfaces looking for broadcast addresses. > > Of interest ifc.ifc_len is 524, but sizeof (struct ifreq) is 32? > Shouldn't the len be an integer multiple of the size of the struct? > I can find no documentation of these ioctl's. I looked at the bytes > returned by SIOCGIFCONF an it's clearly not what the libsmbfs code > expects, but I don't know what SIOCGIFCONF is really supposed to > return & the structure boundaries in the buffer aren't obvious. ... > ifcnt = ifc.ifc_len / sizeof(struct ifreq); Tim Robbins 's done some SMBFS work lately. He'd like it if AMD64 users experiencing this could try: http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/dist/smbfs/lib/smb/nb_net.c.diff?r1=1.1&r2=1.2 and let him know whether he should bring it across to FreeBSD. -- David From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 01:25:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E09716A4CE; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 01:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from bigtex.jrv.org (rrcs-sw-24-73-246-106.biz.rr.com [24.73.246.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DE343D2F; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 01:25:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james@bigtex.jrv.org) Received: from bigtex.jrv.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bigtex.jrv.org (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id i059Pso8089960 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Jan 2004 03:25:54 -0600 (CST) Received: (from james@localhost) by bigtex.jrv.org (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id i059PsVY089957; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 03:25:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 03:25:54 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200401050925.i059PsVY089957@bigtex.jrv.org> From: James Van Artsdalen To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <20040105064415.GA49437@hub.freebsd.org> (obrien@FreeBSD.ORG) References: <200401040714.i047EDbt019471@bigtex.jrv.org> <20040105064415.GA49437@hub.freebsd.org> cc: tjr@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMBFS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 09:25:56 -0000 I am able to mount a filesystem with SMBFS with the patch given. I also had to make this change so that the kernel would compile with the necessary crypto routines. --- sys/conf/files.amd64.~1~ Mon Nov 17 02:58:16 2003 +++ sys/conf/files.amd64 Mon Jan 5 01:54:19 2004 @@ -123,3 +123,8 @@ compat/ia32/ia32_sigtramp.S optional ia32 compat/ia32/ia32_sysvec.c optional ia32 kern/imgact_elf32.c optional ia32 +# +crypto/des/des_ecb.c optional netsmbcrypto +crypto/des/des_enc.c optional netsmbcrypto +crypto/des/des_setkey.c optional netsmbcrypto +crypto/blowfish/bf_enc.c optional crypto One of these has an x86 assembly equivalent; I don't know if using the C version will hurt IPsec badly. The x86 assembly was generated by a perl script which can probably be fixed by a perl script to generate x86-64 code fairly easily if any perl coders want to do it. > Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 22:44:15 -0800 > From: "David O'Brien" > Tim Robbins 's done some SMBFS work lately. He'd like > it if AMD64 users experiencing this could try: > > http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/dist/smbfs/lib/smb/nb_net.c.diff?r1=1.1&r2=1.2 > > and let him know whether he should bring it across to FreeBSD. > > -- David > From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 05:50:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3062B16A4CE for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 05:50:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B4943D3F for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 05:50:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i05DoHFR037345 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 05:50:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i05DoHAC037343; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 05:50:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 05:50:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200401051350.i05DoHAC037343@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org From: "Pasch, Thomas (ACTGRO)" Subject: Re: amd64/60664: Fatal trap 9 in kernel while downloading package s via sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Pasch, Thomas \(ACTGRO\)" List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 13:50:18 -0000 The following reply was made to PR amd64/60664; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Pasch, Thomas (ACTGRO)" To: "'freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org'" Cc: Subject: Re: amd64/60664: Fatal trap 9 in kernel while downloading package s via sysinstall Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 14:43:43 +0100 I wish to render this report to "invalid" because I tracked down the problem to a unreliable memory module in my machine. Sorry for any inconveniance Thomas From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 06:04:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E69816A4CE; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 06:04:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58DDC43D46; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 06:04:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (simon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i05E44FR038381; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 06:04:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from simon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i05E44bC038377; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 06:04:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simon) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 06:04:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-Id: <200401051404.i05E44bC038377@freefall.freebsd.org> To: thomas.pasch@gmx.de, simon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: amd64/60664: Fatal trap 9 in kernel while downloading packages via sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 14:04:05 -0000 Synopsis: Fatal trap 9 in kernel while downloading packages via sysinstall State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: simon State-Changed-When: Mon Jan 5 06:03:32 PST 2004 State-Changed-Why: Close at submitters request. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=60664 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 09:35:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB5916A4CE for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:35:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE99D43D1D for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:35:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i05HZYvT027979; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:35:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i05HZWj4027978; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:35:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:35:32 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Peter Wemm Message-ID: <20040105173532.GD25184@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <3FD87B7C.6050608@texoma.net> <200312141607.21395.peter@wemm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312141607.21395.peter@wemm.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: amd64 freebsd cc: Matt Douhan cc: Jimmie Houchin Subject: Re: SV: Packages/Ports problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 17:35:37 -0000 On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 04:07:21PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > That would be because the port for cvsup hasn't been finished yet. I do have > a hacked up cvsup binary that might be enough to get you going. > > fetch http://people.freebsd.org/~peter/cvsup-without-gui-16.1h.tbz > pkg_add cvsup-without-gui-16.1h.tbz Maybe you could put the binaries in your public_distfiles directory and create a proper port that treats this like any other binary-only package. That way 'pkg_add cvsup' would work. I've lost track of where we stand on this -- did JDP merge in your work to ezm3? From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 09:41:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213CC16A4CE for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:41:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B90343D1F for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:41:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i05Hf7vT028045; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:41:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i05Hf7E5028044; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:41:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:41:06 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Jimmie Houchin Message-ID: <20040105174106.GE25184@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <3FD785F2.9070907@texoma.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FD785F2.9070907@texoma.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: amd64 freebsd Subject: Re: Packages/Ports problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 17:41:09 -0000 On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 02:45:38PM -0600, Jimmie Houchin wrote: > This is my first FreeBSD install and I am very pleased with my experience. > > My problem is that in the install it fails to get the selected packages. > It installs the base and such correctly. I am left with a bootable > system, but no XFree86 and other stuff. Unfortunately that is the state of the mini-install ISO. :-( I've been racking my brains for the best way to handle this. The best thing to do is after doing the install you did, boot fresh and run 'sysinstall', select a media of FTP and then go into the package menu. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 11:02:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64EEE16A4CE for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 11:02:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A10543D8B for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 11:01:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i05J1bFR016050 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 11:01:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i05J1aSX016044 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 11:01:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 11:01:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200401051901.i05J1aSX016044@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 19:02:52 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2003/11/26] amd64/59713 amd64 Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1322116A4D0 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 15:50:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from debussy.private.org (25.60.138.210.bn.2iij.net [210.138.60.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E90143D58 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 15:50:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by debussy.private.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i05NqPlm001661; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:52:25 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 08:52:25 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20040106.085225.730555084.chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp> To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org From: Nakata Maho In-Reply-To: <20040105173532.GD25184@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <3FD87B7C.6050608@texoma.net> <200312141607.21395.peter@wemm.org> <20040105173532.GD25184@dragon.nuxi.com> Organization: private X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on XEmacs 21.4.14 (Reasonable Discussion) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: jhouchin@texoma.net cc: matt@hasta.se Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 23:50:34 -0000 Hi, David > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 04:07:21PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > > That would be because the port for cvsup hasn't been finished yet. I do have > > a hacked up cvsup binary that might be enough to get you going. > > > > fetch http://people.freebsd.org/~peter/cvsup-without-gui-16.1h.tbz > > pkg_add cvsup-without-gui-16.1h.tbz > > Maybe you could put the binaries in your public_distfiles directory and > create a proper port that treats this like any other binary-only package. > That way 'pkg_add cvsup' would work. For your info, in my environment, *default compress produces error like that: % cvsup current-supfile Connected to cvsup3.jp.FreeBSD.org Detailer failed: Network read failure: Input/output error: zlib error 4294967291 Will retry at 08:52:43 however, just ommitting this line made me happy. --maho From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 10:45:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0A516A4D9; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:45:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 322B443D2F; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:45:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i06IjEv9060454; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 13:45:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id i06IjD9g060453; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 13:45:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 13:45:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200401061845.i06IjD9g060453@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: current@freebsd.org, amd64@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 18:45:16 -0000 TB --- 2004-01-06 18:36:18 - tinderbox 2.2 running on cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org TB --- 2004-01-06 18:36:18 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for amd64/amd64 TB --- 2004-01-06 18:36:18 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2004-01-06 18:38:18 - building world TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4.1: building includes [...] ===> gnu/lib/libregex/doc ===> gnu/lib/libreadline ===> gnu/lib/libreadline/history ===> gnu/lib/libreadline/history/doc ===> gnu/lib/libreadline/readline ===> gnu/lib/libreadline/readline/doc ===> gnu/lib/libstdc++ make: don't know how to make /vol/vol1/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++/config/cpu/generic/bits/atomicity.h. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /vol/vol1/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/gnu/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol1/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol1/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol1/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol1/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol1/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src. TB --- 2004-01-06 18:45:13 - TB --- /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2004-01-06 18:45:13 - TB --- ERROR: failed to build world TB --- 2004-01-06 18:45:13 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 11:50:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293AB16A4D0 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 11:50:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from wsip-24-234-162-196.lv.lv.cox.net (wsip-24-234-162-196.lv.lv.cox.net [24.234.162.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E59D43D46 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 11:50:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjpelletier@mjpelletier.com) Received: from wsip-24-234-162-196.lv.lv.cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i06JvNhn003307 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 11:57:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjpelletier@wsip-24-234-162-196.lv.lv.cox.net) Received: (from https@localhost)i06JvHYK003306 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 11:57:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjpelletier@wsip-24-234-162-196.lv.lv.cox.net) From: "Michael J. Pelletier" X-Authentication-Warning: wsip-24-234-162-196.lv.lv.cox.net: https set sender to mjpelletier@localhost using -f Received: from sentinel.nv.doe.gov (sentinel.nv.doe.gov [192.100.51.131]) by www.mjpelletier.com (Horde) with HTTP for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 11:57:17 -0800 Message-ID: <20040106115717.9cwsgwg4sw8k0s84@www.mjpelletier.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 11:57:17 -0800 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.0-cvs X-Originating-IP: 192.100.51.131 Subject: AMD64 support in 5.x versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:50:56 -0000 I was looking through the pages for 5.1 etc. I did not see AMD64 listed...Do you guys support AMD64 on the 5.x? Michael ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 12:25:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0055D16A4CE for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:25:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from pandora.cs.kun.nl (pandora.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6B843D54 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:25:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adridg@cs.kun.nl) Received: from localhost by pandora.cs.kun.nl via odin.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.33] with ESMTP id i06KP05C029535 (8.12.10/3.58); Tue, 6 Jan 2004 21:25:00 +0100 (MET) From: Adriaan de Groot To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 21:24:56 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.94 References: <20040106115717.9cwsgwg4sw8k0s84@www.mjpelletier.com> In-Reply-To: <20040106115717.9cwsgwg4sw8k0s84@www.mjpelletier.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_Ymx+/awkBseZnbR"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200401062124.56861.adridg@cs.kun.nl> cc: "Michael J. Pelletier" Subject: Re: AMD64 support in 5.x versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:25:04 -0000 --Boundary-02=_Ymx+/awkBseZnbR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 06 January 2004 20:57, Michael J. Pelletier wrote: > I was looking through the pages for 5.1 etc. I did not see AMD64 > listed...Do you guys support AMD64 on the 5.x? 5.x on the AMD64, yes. It is listed as a Tier-1 platform main page. Actuall= y,=20 4.x will run on it too as if it was a very fast i386 machine. There are=20 bootable snapshots available, I think - see the archives of this list. Do=20 note that not everything works perfectly - there is no i386 FBSD executable= =20 support, so you will need to recompile everything. There is no Linux=20 executable support. xpdf doesn't work. gcl and cmucl don't work. Lots of=20 other ports have secret i386 or other nonportable assumptions, and may not= =20 compile. =2D-=20 pub 1024D/FEA2A3FE 2002-06-18 Adriaan de Groot If the door is ajar, can we fill it with door-jamb? --Boundary-02=_Ymx+/awkBseZnbR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA/+xmYdqzuAf6io/4RAvj+AJ4g1Nu3qne0Hie/+CHQfZi8Op8y/QCgha68 5oVc16Wv2Yyt1MLJgtiyjQI= =P/zM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_Ymx+/awkBseZnbR-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 19:43:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF1916A4CE for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 19:43:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from bragi.housing.ufl.edu (bragi.housing.ufl.edu [128.227.47.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8B243D3F for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 19:43:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from WillS@housing.ufl.edu) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:43:54 -0500 Message-ID: <0E972CEE334BFE4291CD07E056C76ED8CBBE06@bragi.housing.ufl.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: AMD64 support in 5.x versions Thread-Index: AcPUkzIkWBuAe0uqS7eLwfTYPuwZnwAO8CtQ From: "Will Saxon" To: "Adriaan de Groot" , cc: "Michael J. Pelletier" Subject: RE: AMD64 support in 5.x versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 03:43:57 -0000 I downloaded the 5.2-RC2 AMD64 miniinst ISO to try on a MSI K8T800 based = dual opteron system today. I found that the system panicked when I used = ACPI, and without ACPI the onboard broadcom ethernet is not initialized = correctly (something about return type/code of 6 I believe). This may or = may not be AMD64 related. It does boot multi user w/o acpi on my system, I can log in and do some = things, but without network support I was not able to do much since I = had no packages or port installation capability. I plan to give it another try after -RELEASE and spend more time with = it. Right now I am slogging through a "why did I let them convince me to = use 'stage 1'" gentoo x86_64 install. I'm sure linux will work well for = me on this system but after several years of FreeBSD use Linux feels = like a wet pair of socks...yuck... -Will > -----Original Message----- > From: Adriaan de Groot [mailto:adridg@cs.kun.nl] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 3:25 PM > To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org > Cc: Michael J. Pelletier > Subject: Re: AMD64 support in 5.x versions >=20 >=20 > On Tuesday 06 January 2004 20:57, Michael J. Pelletier wrote: > > I was looking through the pages for 5.1 etc. I did not see AMD64 > > listed...Do you guys support AMD64 on the 5.x? >=20 > 5.x on the AMD64, yes. It is listed as a Tier-1 platform main=20 > page. Actually,=20 > 4.x will run on it too as if it was a very fast i386 machine.=20 > There are=20 > bootable snapshots available, I think - see the archives of=20 > this list. Do=20 > note that not everything works perfectly - there is no i386=20 > FBSD executable=20 > support, so you will need to recompile everything. There is no Linux=20 > executable support. xpdf doesn't work. gcl and cmucl don't=20 > work. Lots of=20 > other ports have secret i386 or other nonportable=20 > assumptions, and may not=20 > compile. >=20 > --=20 > pub 1024D/FEA2A3FE 2002-06-18 Adriaan de Groot > If the door is ajar, can we fill it with door-jamb? >=20 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 20:29:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2187A16A4CE for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:29:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from wsip-24-234-162-196.lv.lv.cox.net (wsip-24-234-162-196.lv.lv.cox.net [24.234.162.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE8E43D31 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:29:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjpelletier@mjpelletier.com) Received: from wsip-24-234-162-196.lv.lv.cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i074Znhn003980 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:35:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjpelletier@wsip-24-234-162-196.lv.lv.cox.net) Received: (from https@localhost)i074Zm1L003979; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:35:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjpelletier@wsip-24-234-162-196.lv.lv.cox.net) From: "Michael J. Pelletier" X-Authentication-Warning: wsip-24-234-162-196.lv.lv.cox.net: https set sender to mjpelletier@localhost using -f Received: from wsip-24-234-216-145.lv.lv.cox.netwww.mjpelletier.com (Horde) with HTTP for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:35:48 -0800 Message-ID: <20040106203548.s0gcg4ssgwsc8cks@www.mjpelletier.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:35:48 -0800 To: Will Saxon References: <0E972CEE334BFE4291CD07E056C76ED8CBBE06@bragi.housing.ufl.edu> In-Reply-To: <0E972CEE334BFE4291CD07E056C76ED8CBBE06@bragi.housing.ufl.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.0-cvs X-Originating-IP: 24.234.216.145 cc: Adriaan de Groot cc: "Michael J. Pelletier" cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: RE: AMD64 support in 5.x versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 04:29:04 -0000 Please let me know if this gets fixed. I am just purchased the Tyan board. It also has the Broadcom 10/100/1000 NICs builtin.... I too have been using FreeBSD since 2.0 and I am not looking forward to using anything else. Thanks, Michael Quoting Will Saxon : > I downloaded the 5.2-RC2 AMD64 miniinst ISO to try on a MSI K8T800 based dual > opteron system today. I found that the system panicked when I used ACPI, and > without ACPI the onboard broadcom ethernet is not initialized correctly > (something about return type/code of 6 I believe). This may or may not be > AMD64 related. > > It does boot multi user w/o acpi on my system, I can log in and do some > things, but without network support I was not able to do much since I had no > packages or port installation capability. > > I plan to give it another try after -RELEASE and spend more time with it. > Right now I am slogging through a "why did I let them convince me to use > 'stage 1'" gentoo x86_64 install. I'm sure linux will work well for me on > this system but after several years of FreeBSD use Linux feels like a wet > pair of socks...yuck... > > -Will > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Adriaan de Groot [mailto:adridg@cs.kun.nl] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 3:25 PM > > To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org > > Cc: Michael J. Pelletier > > Subject: Re: AMD64 support in 5.x versions > > > > > > On Tuesday 06 January 2004 20:57, Michael J. Pelletier wrote: > > > I was looking through the pages for 5.1 etc. I did not see AMD64 > > > listed...Do you guys support AMD64 on the 5.x? > > > > 5.x on the AMD64, yes. It is listed as a Tier-1 platform main > > page. Actually, > > 4.x will run on it too as if it was a very fast i386 machine. > > There are > > bootable snapshots available, I think - see the archives of > > this list. Do > > note that not everything works perfectly - there is no i386 > > FBSD executable > > support, so you will need to recompile everything. There is no Linux > > executable support. xpdf doesn't work. gcl and cmucl don't > > work. Lots of > > other ports have secret i386 or other nonportable > > assumptions, and may not > > compile. > > > > -- > > pub 1024D/FEA2A3FE 2002-06-18 Adriaan de Groot > > If the door is ajar, can we fill it with door-jamb? > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 02:19:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8796C16A4CE for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 02:19:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from pandora.cs.kun.nl (pandora.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C979043D1D for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 02:19:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adridg@cs.kun.nl) Received: from odin.cs.kun.nl by pandora.cs.kun.nl via odin.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.33] with ESMTP id i07AJ35D013650 (8.12.10/3.58); Wed, 7 Jan 2004 11:19:03 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 11:19:03 +0100 (MET) From: Adriaan de Groot To: Will Saxon In-Reply-To: <0E972CEE334BFE4291CD07E056C76ED8CBBE06@bragi.housing.ufl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: "Michael J. Pelletier" cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: RE: AMD64 support in 5.x versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: adridg@cs.kun.nl List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 10:19:06 -0000 On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Will Saxon wrote: > It does boot multi user w/o acpi on my system, I can log in and do some > things, but without network support I was not able to do much since I > had no packages or port installation capability. One option is to use some nasty leftover hardware from somewhere - for instance, I had an old 3Com 3c905 (?) card lying around, used that for initial networking, fetched the cvsup package from David O'Brien (?), adjusted the supfiles (because it doesn't support compress - as noted on the webpage, but not everybody seems to read that), updated to -CURRENT, and went from there. In theory _everybody_ has a leftover PCI NIC somewhere :) > I plan to give it another try after -RELEASE and spend more time with > it. Right now I am slogging through a "why did I let them convince me to > use 'stage 1'" gentoo x86_64 install. I'm sure linux will work well for > me on this system but after several years of FreeBSD use Linux feels > like a wet pair of socks...yuck... Reports I've heard - perhaps from James on this list - are that Gentoo amd64 and the other available Linuxen are just as wonky, if you can get them to compile at all. -- Adriaan de Groot adridg@cs.kun.nl Kamer A6020 024-3652272 GPG Key Fingerprint 934E 31AA 80A7 723F 54F9 50ED 76AC EE01 FEA2 A3FE http://www.cs.kun.nl/~adridg/research/ From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 03:02:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6925916A4CE for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 03:02:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.omnis.com (smtp.omnis.com [216.239.128.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EAA43D39 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 03:02:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from techsupport@thejemreport.com) Received: from [192.168.0.163] (roc-66-66-218-250.rochester.rr.com [66.66.218.250]) by smtp-relay.omnis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334765B64F for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 03:02:02 -0800 (PST) From: Jem Matzan Cc: FreeBSD/AMD64 list In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1073473183.647.6.camel@.rochester.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 05:59:43 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: AMD64 support in 5.x versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:02:06 -0000 I've tried just about everything AMD64 in terms of operating systems, and I can say for certain that no one is anywhere near the level of functionality that their i386 arch is. Even SuSE and RedHat with their retail box AMD64 distros only offer limited AMD64 functionality. Gentoo will install but few things will compile properly. I'd consider FreeBSD and NetBSD further along than Gentoo at this point, except for the fact that Gentoo can update its source code and FreeBSD can't (without the special hacked CVSup). FreeBSD would be a step ahead of everyone else if IA32 binary compatibility worked. -Jem On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 05:19, Adriaan de Groot wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Will Saxon wrote: > > > It does boot multi user w/o acpi on my system, I can log in and do some > > things, but without network support I was not able to do much since I > > had no packages or port installation capability. > > One option is to use some nasty leftover hardware from somewhere - for > instance, I had an old 3Com 3c905 (?) card lying around, used that for > initial networking, fetched the cvsup package from David O'Brien (?), > adjusted the supfiles (because it doesn't support compress - as noted on > the webpage, but not everybody seems to read that), updated to -CURRENT, > and went from there. In theory _everybody_ has a leftover PCI NIC > somewhere :) > > > I plan to give it another try after -RELEASE and spend more time with > > it. Right now I am slogging through a "why did I let them convince me to > > use 'stage 1'" gentoo x86_64 install. I'm sure linux will work well for > > me on this system but after several years of FreeBSD use Linux feels > > like a wet pair of socks...yuck... > > Reports I've heard - perhaps from James on this list - are that Gentoo > amd64 and the other available Linuxen are just as wonky, if you can get > them to compile at all. -- Jem Matzan From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 06:21:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C3C16A4CE for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 06:21:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from fed1mtao08.cox.net (fed1mtao08.cox.net [68.6.19.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992DD43D45 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 06:21:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from xcas@cox.net) Received: from cox.net ([68.2.130.186]) by fed1mtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040107142154.ONZG11788.fed1mtao08.cox.net@cox.net>; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:21:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FFC1623.6010309@cox.net> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 07:22:27 -0700 From: "Greg J." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jem Matzan References: <1073473183.647.6.camel@.rochester.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <1073473183.647.6.camel@.rochester.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD/AMD64 list Subject: Re: AMD64 support in 5.x versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 14:21:56 -0000 Jem Matzan wrote: > I've tried just about everything AMD64 in terms of operating systems, > and I can say for certain that no one is anywhere near the level of > functionality that their i386 arch is. Even SuSE and RedHat with their > retail box AMD64 distros only offer limited AMD64 functionality. Gentoo > will install but few things will compile properly. I'd consider FreeBSD > and NetBSD further along than Gentoo at this point, except for the fact > that Gentoo can update its source code and FreeBSD can't (without the > special hacked CVSup). > FreeBSD would be a step ahead of everyone else if IA32 binary > compatibility worked. Where would one get the hacked cvsup? I'm dying to find an easier way to update ports & src. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 06:28:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED1616A4CE for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 06:28:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from fed1mtao08.cox.net (fed1mtao08.cox.net [68.6.19.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B09143D1D for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 06:27:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from xcas@cox.net) Received: from cox.net ([68.2.130.186]) by fed1mtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040107142758.OOVY11788.fed1mtao08.cox.net@cox.net>; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:27:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FFC178F.2030207@cox.net> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 07:28:31 -0700 From: "Greg J." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jem Matzan References: <1073473183.647.6.camel@.rochester.rr.com> <3FFC1623.6010309@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <3FFC1623.6010309@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD/AMD64 list Subject: Re: AMD64 support in 5.x versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 14:28:01 -0000 Greg J. wrote: > Jem Matzan wrote: > >> I've tried just about everything AMD64 in terms of operating systems, >> and I can say for certain that no one is anywhere near the level of >> functionality that their i386 arch is. Even SuSE and RedHat with their >> retail box AMD64 distros only offer limited AMD64 functionality. Gentoo >> will install but few things will compile properly. I'd consider FreeBSD >> and NetBSD further along than Gentoo at this point, except for the fact >> that Gentoo can update its source code and FreeBSD can't (without the >> special hacked CVSup). >> FreeBSD would be a step ahead of everyone else if IA32 binary >> compatibility worked. > > > Where would one get the hacked cvsup? I'm dying to find an easier way to > update ports & src. Nevermind.. I found it. :) http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=7000+0+archive/2003/freebsd-amd64/20031102.freebsd-amd64 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 09:53:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7265A16A4CE for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:53:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F60843D4C for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:53:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i07HrfvT055444; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:53:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i07Hrcrl055443; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:53:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:53:38 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Will Saxon Message-ID: <20040107175338.GB50142@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <0E972CEE334BFE4291CD07E056C76ED8CBBE06@bragi.housing.ufl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0E972CEE334BFE4291CD07E056C76ED8CBBE06@bragi.housing.ufl.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: Adriaan de Groot cc: "Michael J. Pelletier" cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 support in 5.x versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:53:47 -0000 On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 10:43:54PM -0500, Will Saxon wrote: > I downloaded the 5.2-RC2 AMD64 miniinst ISO to try on a MSI K8T800 > based dual opteron system today. What is the board model number? I am not aware of any K8T800 based SMP boards. The only MSI 2P board I know if is the K8D Master MS-9131 which is AMD 8100. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 09:56:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869EA16A4CE for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8A843D3F for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:56:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i07HufvT055504; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:56:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i07Huf13055503; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:56:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:56:41 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Will Saxon Message-ID: <20040107175641.GC50142@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <0E972CEE334BFE4291CD07E056C76ED8CBBE06@bragi.housing.ufl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0E972CEE334BFE4291CD07E056C76ED8CBBE06@bragi.housing.ufl.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: Adriaan de Groot cc: "Michael J. Pelletier" cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 support in 5.x versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:56:47 -0000 On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 10:43:54PM -0500, Will Saxon wrote: > I downloaded the 5.2-RC2 AMD64 miniinst ISO to try on a MSI K8T800 > based dual opteron system today. I found that the system panicked when > I used ACPI, and without ACPI the onboard broadcom ethernet is not > initialized correctly (something about return type/code of 6 I > believe). This may or may not be AMD64 related. I've seen this on quad Opteron servers in my lab, but I haven't had a chance to keep one down (ie, not running Linux) for long enough to debug it. The bge(4) maintainer suggested finding the delay statements in the driver and adding another "0" to them. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 10:08:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F87A16A4CE; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from bragi.housing.ufl.edu (bragi.housing.ufl.edu [128.227.47.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1738443D67; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:07:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from WillS@housing.ufl.edu) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 13:07:40 -0500 Message-ID: <0E972CEE334BFE4291CD07E056C76ED8DB368C@bragi.housing.ufl.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: AMD64 support in 5.x versions Thread-Index: AcPVR58lj8d3K+GHS2Op9OGfdZmpkwAAYC/Q From: "Will Saxon" To: cc: Adriaan de Groot cc: "Michael J. Pelletier" cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: RE: AMD64 support in 5.x versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 18:08:08 -0000 Yes it looks like this exact problem with other broadcom chipsets was = 'fixed' around July. The firmware initialization is timing out so you = have to give it more time :). -Will > -----Original Message----- > From: David O'Brien [mailto:obrien@freebsd.org] > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 12:57 PM > To: Will Saxon > Cc: Adriaan de Groot; freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Michael J. Pelletier > Subject: Re: AMD64 support in 5.x versions >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 10:43:54PM -0500, Will Saxon wrote: > > I downloaded the 5.2-RC2 AMD64 miniinst ISO to try on a MSI K8T800 > > based dual opteron system today. I found that the system=20 > panicked when > > I used ACPI, and without ACPI the onboard broadcom ethernet is not > > initialized correctly (something about return type/code of 6 I > > believe). This may or may not be AMD64 related. >=20 > I've seen this on quad Opteron servers in my lab, but I haven't had a > chance to keep one down (ie, not running Linux) for long=20 > enough to debug > it. The bge(4) maintainer suggested finding the delay=20 > statements in the > driver and adding another "0" to them. >=20 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 17:30:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871EF16A4CE for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:30:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD3143D49 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:30:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i081U6vT066465 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:30:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i081U6EA066464 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:30:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:30:06 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040108013006.GA66441@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Subject: CVSup stop-gap possibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 01:30:08 -0000 I've just discovered CVSync and allbsd.org. Until we get CVSup fully working on AMD64, allbsd.org's rsync and CVSync offerings (http://www.allbsd.org/) is one possible way to get the FreeBSD CVS repo mirrored. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 19:53:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE5216A4D0 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 19:53:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21B843D46 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 19:53:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jlfenton@citlink.net) Received: (qmail 1567 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 03:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO citlink.net) ([67.136.223.153]) (envelope-sender ) by relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (FrontierMTA 2.3.6) with SMTP for ; 8 Jan 2004 03:53:26 -0000 Message-ID: <3FFCD437.6090704@citlink.net> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 20:53:27 -0700 From: Joe Fenton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <20040107200042.67A0B16A4D2@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20040107200042.67A0B16A4D2@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: freebsd-amd64 Digest, Vol 31, Issue 3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 03:53:55 -0000 On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 10:43:54PM -0500, Will Saxon wrote: >> I downloaded the 5.2-RC2 AMD64 miniinst ISO to try on a MSI K8T800 >> based dual opteron system today. > > > What is the board model number? I am not aware of any K8T800 based SMP > boards. The only MSI 2P board I know if is the K8D Master MS-9131 which > is AMD 8100. The K8T Master2-FAR (MS-9130) is a K8T800 DP board. The first Opteron controlls the memory and the second accesses memory across the HT link. The K8T Master1-FAR (also MS-9130) is a single CPU version of the Master2-FAR. All they did for this board is not include the socket closest to the AGP slot. I'm trying to get a "mptable -dmesg" to send to the guy keeping the mobo database for AMD64 systems, but I can't get the damn floppy to mount. /dev/fd0 is there, but when I try to mount it, it says that /mnt/floppy doesn't exist. Maybe someone can give me a little hint on this. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 00:50:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D945816A4CE for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 00:50:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lupinella.troll.no (lupinella.troll.no [80.232.37.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D0343D1D for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 00:50:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ebakke@trolltech.com) Received: from steinbit.troll.no ([80.232.37.113]:61632 "EHLO steinbit.troll.no" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:50:11 +0100 From: "Erik H. Bakke" To: Joe Fenton Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:51:02 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20040107200042.67A0B16A4D2@hub.freebsd.org> <3FFCD437.6090704@citlink.net> In-Reply-To: <3FFCD437.6090704@citlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401080951.02162.ebakke@trolltech.com> cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-amd64 Digest, Vol 31, Issue 3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 08:50:29 -0000 On Thursday 08 January 2004 04:53, Joe Fenton wrote: > I'm trying to get a "mptable -dmesg" to send to the guy keeping the mobo > database > for AMD64 systems, but I can't get the damn floppy to mount. /dev/fd0 is > there, > but when I try to mount it, it says that /mnt/floppy doesn't exist. > Maybe someone > can give me a little hint on this. > A very stupid suggestion, but I haven't followed this thread closely so I may have missed the obvious here. /mnt/floppy does exist in your filesystem, I assume? An alternative could be to mount a disk image file, as far as the filesystem driver is concerned that should work (The notorious 'should work') the same way as a device node, I think. Then, when you're done with the disk image, unmount it and copy the file raw to /dev/fd0. I do not have my AMD64 system yet, but it's on my budget for April so I can't reproduce the problem locally yet, I'm afraid. Best regards. -- Erik H. Bakke From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 01:31:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2CD16A4CE for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 01:31:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from bigtex.jrv.org (rrcs-sw-24-73-246-106.biz.rr.com [24.73.246.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDC943D45 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 01:31:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james@bigtex.jrv.org) Received: from bigtex.jrv.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bigtex.jrv.org (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id i089VIo8092514 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 8 Jan 2004 03:31:18 -0600 (CST) Received: (from james@localhost) by bigtex.jrv.org (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id i089VFwq092511; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 03:31:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 03:31:15 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200401080931.i089VFwq092511@bigtex.jrv.org> From: James Van Artsdalen To: mjpelletier@mjpelletier.com In-reply-to: <20040106203548.s0gcg4ssgwsc8cks@www.mjpelletier.com> References: <0E972CEE334BFE4291CD07E056C76ED8CBBE06@bragi.housing.ufl.edu> <20040106203548.s0gcg4ssgwsc8cks@www.mjpelletier.com> cc: adridg@cs.kun.nl cc: WillS@housing.ufl.edu cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org cc: mjpelletier@mjpelletier.com Subject: Re: AMD64 support in 5.x versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 09:31:23 -0000 My Tyan K8W S2885 works fine with its onboard Broadcom. Will's problems appear caused by ACPI problems, which is a property of the particular BIOS the motherboard interacting with whatever bugs exist in FreeBSD's ACPI interpreter. Your Tyan probably works as-is. Will might check the MSI website for BIOS updates, and perhaps the FreeBSD repository to see if there have been any ACPI fixes installed since RC2. > From: "Michael J. Pelletier" > Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:35:48 -0800 > > Please let me know if this gets fixed. I am just purchased the Tyan board. It > also has the Broadcom 10/100/1000 NICs builtin.... From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 10:02:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652AA16A4CE for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:02:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F401B43D2F for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:02:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i08I2EvT079988; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:02:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i08I2EFq079987; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:02:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:02:14 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Joe Fenton Message-ID: <20040108180214.GA79495@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20040107200042.67A0B16A4D2@hub.freebsd.org> <3FFCD437.6090704@citlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FFCD437.6090704@citlink.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-amd64 Digest, Vol 31, Issue 3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 18:02:18 -0000 On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 08:53:27PM -0700, Joe Fenton wrote: > On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 10:43:54PM -0500, Will Saxon wrote: > >>I downloaded the 5.2-RC2 AMD64 miniinst ISO to try on a MSI K8T800 > >>based dual opteron system today. > > >What is the board model number? I am not aware of any K8T800 based SMP > >boards. The only MSI 2P board I know if is the K8D Master MS-9131 which > >is AMD 8100. > > The K8T Master2-FAR (MS-9130) is a K8T800 DP board. The first Opteron > controlls the memory and the second accesses memory across the HT link. I found it at the MSI website, its a 4+0 DIMM configuration. I personally don't like any 4+0 DIMM configuration motherboard -- unless it is treated as a 1P Opteron 1xy AGP workstation. I.E. the K8T Master-FAR. 4+0 SMP configuration has NUMA performance issues that can't be worked around. Well, the board still has some merit when used as an SMP -- the memory latency across 1-hop is still better than today's Pentium-4 SMP systems. > but I can't get the damn floppy to mount. /dev/fd0 is there, but when I > try to mount it, it says that /mnt/floppy doesn't exist. Maybe someone > can give me a little hint on this. /mnt/floppy is a linux'ism. Please try the UNIX way of just mounting it on /mnt. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 10:04:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E637316A4CE for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:04:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A4343D49 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:04:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i08I4IvT080039; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:04:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i08I4Hqn080038; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:04:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:04:17 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: James Van Artsdalen Message-ID: <20040108180417.GB79495@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <0E972CEE334BFE4291CD07E056C76ED8CBBE06@bragi.housing.ufl.edu> <20040106203548.s0gcg4ssgwsc8cks@www.mjpelletier.com> <200401080931.i089VFwq092511@bigtex.jrv.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200401080931.i089VFwq092511@bigtex.jrv.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 support in 5.x versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 18:04:21 -0000 On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 03:31:15AM -0600, James Van Artsdalen wrote: > My Tyan K8W S2885 works fine with its onboard Broadcom. Will's > problems appear caused by ACPI problems, which is a property of the > particular BIOS the motherboard interacting with whatever bugs exist > in FreeBSD's ACPI interpreter. Your Tyan probably works as-is. > > Will might check the MSI website for BIOS updates, and perhaps the > FreeBSD repository to see if there have been any ACPI fixes installed > since RC2. > > > From: "Michael J. Pelletier" > > Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:35:48 -0800 > > > > Please let me know if this gets fixed. I am just purchased the Tyan board. It > > also has the Broadcom 10/100/1000 NICs builtin.... PLEASE don't top-post -- it looses context. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 16:13:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43D516A4E9; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:13:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from daintree.corp.yahoo.com (daintree.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.52.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E99243D1F; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:13:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@yahoo-inc.com) Received: by daintree.corp.yahoo.com (Postfix, from userid 2154) id E731987E9; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:13:08 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Wemm To: obrien@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:13:08 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20040108013006.GA66441@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <20040108013006.GA66441@dragon.nuxi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401081613.08642.peter@wemm.org> Subject: Re: CVSup stop-gap possibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:13:09 -0000 On Wednesday 07 January 2004 05:30 pm, David O'Brien wrote: > I've just discovered CVSync and allbsd.org. Until we get CVSup fully > working on AMD64, allbsd.org's rsync and CVSync offerings > (http://www.allbsd.org/) is one possible way to get the FreeBSD CVS > repo mirrored. Or: fetch http://people.freebsd.org/~peter/cvsup-without-gui-16.1h.tbz pkg_add cvsup-without-gui-16.1h.tbz The biggest gotchas that I know of are: 1) compression does not work. 2) the gui doesn't work 3) cvsupd doesn't work 4) checkout mode is completely untested (I dont use it) Besides that, it works fine for text mode (eg: cron) cvs repo updates. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 16:45:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0D716A4CE for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:45:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp02.syd.iprimus.net.au (smtp02.syd.iprimus.net.au [210.50.76.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C90243D31 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:45:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tjr@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (210.50.86.158) by smtp02.syd.iprimus.net.au (7.0.020) id 3F8F522A018DE676; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:45:33 +1100 Message-ID: <3FFDF9E7.2020405@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 11:46:31 +1100 From: Tim Robbins User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031205 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Van Artsdalen References: <200401040714.i047EDbt019471@bigtex.jrv.org> <20040105064415.GA49437@hub.freebsd.org> <200401050925.i059PsVY089957@bigtex.jrv.org> In-Reply-To: <200401050925.i059PsVY089957@bigtex.jrv.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMBFS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:45:47 -0000 James Van Artsdalen wrote: >I am able to mount a filesystem with SMBFS with the patch given. > > Thanks for testing it. I'll commit it later today. >I also had to make this change so that the kernel would compile >with the necessary crypto routines. > >--- sys/conf/files.amd64.~1~ Mon Nov 17 02:58:16 2003 >+++ sys/conf/files.amd64 Mon Jan 5 01:54:19 2004 >@@ -123,3 +123,8 @@ > compat/ia32/ia32_sigtramp.S optional ia32 > compat/ia32/ia32_sysvec.c optional ia32 > kern/imgact_elf32.c optional ia32 >+# >+crypto/des/des_ecb.c optional netsmbcrypto >+crypto/des/des_enc.c optional netsmbcrypto >+crypto/des/des_setkey.c optional netsmbcrypto >+crypto/blowfish/bf_enc.c optional crypto > > > This looks reasonable, but I don't have amd64 hardware to test it on so it would be best left to someone else who does. Tim From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 16:58:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFB016A4CE; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [194.97.50.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39F043D60; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:58:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garyj@jennejohn.org) Received: from [194.97.50.136] (helo=mx3.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with asmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AekyX-00016W-Oo; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:58:09 +0100 Received: from g0e29.g.pppool.de ([80.185.14.41] helo=peedub.jennejohn.org) by mx3.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 4.30 #1) id 1AekyX-00050g-DC; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:58:09 +0100 Received: from peedub.jennejohn.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.jennejohn.org (8.12.10/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i090ts1m008538; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 01:55:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.jennejohn.org) Message-Id: <200401090055.i090ts1m008538@peedub.jennejohn.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org From: Gary Jennejohn Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:55:54 +0100 Sender: garyj@jennejohn.org cc: soren@freebsd.org Subject: success with GA-K8VNXP but problem with IDE disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:58:13 -0000 I just got one of $(SUBJECT) motherboards and it works quite nicely with FreeBSD (still in 32 bit mode). It uses the K8T800 and VT8237. The 2 onbard ethernets are ``device re'' (10/100/1000) and ``device vr'' (10/100). To get the 8 USB ports working one needs ``device uhci'' and ``device ehci''. Firewire is at least recognized at boot time, but I don't have any devices to test it with. The onboard sound just works. ACPICA also works just fine. I haven't tested the SATA ports or the GigaRAID yet. One strange thing is that my IDE disk, which worked at UDMA100 with my old mobo, only runs at UDMA33 with the new mobo. I'm using UDMA100 cables. I can't force the setting of UDMA100 or UDMA66 using atacontrol. Maybe a bug in the handling of the VT8237? The disk is all by itself as master on one channel, although I do have a DVD drive (UDMA33) by itself as master on the second channel. I have checked the BIOS settings, but there's no way to force UDMA100 in the BIOS that I can see. Oh yeah, mbmon seems to show all values except the CPU temperature OK. The CPU is always shown at 127 degrees celsius. With 2 TwinMOS Twister PC3200 CL2 256MB DIMMs the motherboard freezes. I'm currently using 2 old 256MB PC2100 DIMMs in it. -------- Gary Jennejohn / garyj[at]jennejohn.org gj[at]freebsd.org gj[at]denx.de From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 17:45:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39FF16A4CE for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 17:45:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [204.152.187.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ABA043D41 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 17:45:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Peter_Losher@isc.org) Received: from tardis.isc.org (tardis.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb:230:1bff:fe31:a192]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE96FA829 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 01:45:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Peter_Losher@isc.org) From: Peter Losher Organization: ISC To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 17:45:26 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.94 References: <20040108013006.GA66441@dragon.nuxi.com> <200401081613.08642.peter@wemm.org> In-Reply-To: <200401081613.08642.peter@wemm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200401081745.26357.Peter_Losher@isc.org> Subject: Re: CVSup stop-gap possibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:45:28 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 08 January 2004 04:13 pm, Peter Wemm wrote: > fetch http://people.freebsd.org/~peter/cvsup-without-gui-16.1h.tbz > pkg_add cvsup-without-gui-16.1h.tbz Or simply:=20 pkg_add -r http://people.freebsd.org/~peter/cvsup-without-gui-16.1h.tbz (which is what I did) :) > Besides that, it works fine for text mode (eg: cron) cvs repo updates. And thanks a ton for getting this to work as well as you have so far... :) Best Wishes - Peter =2D --=20 Peter_Losher@isc.org | ISC | OpenPGP 0xE8048D08 | "The bits must flow" =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE//ge2PtVx9OgEjQgRApAFAJ9MrGUgjZ+urBmxZHt3hwNm8YFxqQCfYvAR Ynzm7xCx9Q+ZceqtNIry8iE=3D =3DrYX2 =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 12:10:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6969D16A4D3 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:10:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (nwkea-mail-1.sun.com [192.18.42.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B6C43D3F for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:10:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from venkat.kondaveeti@sun.com) Received: from phys-bos-1.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.14.23]) by nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i09KAWj4021640 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:10:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from sun.com (venkat.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.103.158]) by bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 (built Sep 24 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HR800079O1JWM90@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 12:10:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 12:12:51 -0800 From: Venkatagiridhar Kondaveeti To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-id: <3FFF0B43.1040306@sun.com> Organization: Sun Micro systems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031219 Subject: AMD64 Installation succesful for Tyan S2885 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: venkat.kondaveeti@sun.com List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 20:10:35 -0000 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 17:09:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F6916A4CE for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:09:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E537D43D49 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:09:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gofda-freebsd-amd64@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Af7cb-00077y-00 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 02:09:01 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Af7cZ-00077i-00 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 02:08:59 +0100 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Af7cZ-000854-00 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 02:08:59 +0100 From: david Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 20:08:58 -0500 Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <18506.7860912115$1073473344@news.gmane.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031013 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <18506.7860912115$1073473344@news.gmane.org> Sender: news Subject: Re: AMD64 support in 5.x versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 01:09:09 -0000 Jem Matzan wrote: > I've tried just about everything AMD64 in terms of operating systems, > and I can say for certain that no one is anywhere near the level of > functionality that their i386 arch is. Even SuSE and RedHat with their > retail box AMD64 distros only offer limited AMD64 functionality. Gentoo > will install but few things will compile properly. I'd consider FreeBSD > and NetBSD further along than Gentoo at this point, except for the fact > that Gentoo can update its source code and FreeBSD can't (without the > special hacked CVSup). > FreeBSD would be a step ahead of everyone else if IA32 binary > compatibility worked. > > -Jem What do you mean by "limited AMD64 functionality"? I am looking into other forms of *nix due to the fact that linux compatibility is a must for the programs I will be running. Any other information you can provide pertaining to AMD64 + linux compatibility would be very useful. David From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 17:25:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF7016A4CE for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:25:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.omnis.com (smtp.omnis.com [216.239.128.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53E443D31 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:25:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from techsupport@thejemreport.com) Received: from [192.168.0.163] (roc-66-66-218-250.rochester.rr.com [66.66.218.250]) by smtp-relay.omnis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1CA72DA0 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:25:06 -0800 (PST) From: Jem Matzan To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1073697769.733.27.camel@.rochester.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 20:22:49 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: AMD64 support in 5.x versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 01:25:26 -0000 On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 20:08, david wrote: > Jem Matzan wrote: > > I've tried just about everything AMD64 in terms of operating systems, > > and I can say for certain that no one is anywhere near the level of > > functionality that their i386 arch is. Even SuSE and RedHat with their > > retail box AMD64 distros only offer limited AMD64 functionality. Gentoo > > will install but few things will compile properly. I'd consider FreeBSD > > and NetBSD further along than Gentoo at this point, except for the fact > > that Gentoo can update its source code and FreeBSD can't (without the > > special hacked CVSup). > > FreeBSD would be a step ahead of everyone else if IA32 binary > > compatibility worked. > > > > -Jem > > What do you mean by "limited AMD64 functionality"? I am looking into > other forms of *nix due to the fact that linux compatibility is a must > for the programs I will be running. Any other information you can > provide pertaining to AMD64 + linux compatibility would be very useful. > > David > Well, about the only GNU/Linux distros that will work are the ones made for AMD64. SuSE 9.0 for x86 will work to a reasonable degree. I had a beta copy of SuSE 9.0 for AMD64 and it didn't work very well at all, neither did the RC2 of Mandrake 9.2 AMD64. It's since been overwritten and I've requested a retail edition of SuSE 9.0/AMD64 for review but it hasn't come. 3D accerleration for ATI video cards in Linux/AMD64 seems out of the question for right now. On the other hand it was out of the question for FreeBSD anyway. The most common problem I had with Linux was drivers for the SysKonnect LAN, and I don't have another card for testing. Some, like Fedora Core and Lycoris Update 3, would lock up or restart the machine. I wish I could just get an x86 GNU/Linux distro installed properly with all of the right drivers just so I can run VMWare 4 and maybe play UT2003 again now and then. Gentoo/AMD64 will install, but there are no boot loaders ported to AMD64 yet (for GNU/Linux anyway) and I had trouble compiling nearly everything I was interested in running. The last time I tried Gentoo/AMD64 was a week and a half ago and it was unusable. I tried FreeBSD 5.2-RC2 last night again, but there seems to be some kind of problem with dhclient and the SysKonnect LAN. It will try to connect to the DHCP server for about two minutes and then give up, leaving me with no Internet access. 5.2-CURRENT/x86 will do this now and then too, but usually when I see it stay too long at the dhclient message during startup, I hit ctrl-alt-del to restart the system and it generally loads fine after that. Sometimes I have to restart the system two or three times to get dhclient to load properly. On the AMD64 port though, I restarted a dozen times, reset my cable modem and router, switched cat5 cables... nothing works. So it's back to x86 again. Let me know if you get anything working in terms of GNU/Linux, specifically community distros... -- Jem Matzan From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 01:21:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA6B16A4CE for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 01:21:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from bigtex.jrv.org (rrcs-sw-24-73-246-106.biz.rr.com [24.73.246.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F6243D62 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 01:21:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james@bigtex.jrv.org) Received: from bigtex.jrv.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bigtex.jrv.org (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id i0A9LTo8021506 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 03:21:29 -0600 (CST) Received: (from james@localhost) by bigtex.jrv.org (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id i0A9LTa9021503; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 03:21:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 03:21:29 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200401100921.i0A9LTa9021503@bigtex.jrv.org> From: James Van Artsdalen To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 5.2 RC2 stability? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:21:36 -0000 Has anyone else has trouble wiith the 5.2 RC2 ISO spontaneously rebooting? The older 5.2beta gave me no trouble at all, nor did a cvsup on 12/15. But the 5.2 RC2 ISO will reboot, with no kernel panic or other serial port output, after heavy activity. A loop running "make buildworld" won't run more than 24 hours or so. I put the 12/15 disk back on the system and it rusn fine - it doesn't seem to be any motherboard degradation or such. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 07:24:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F146716A4CE; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 07:24:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from debussy.private.org (25.60.138.210.bn.2iij.net [210.138.60.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB1C43D41; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 07:24:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by debussy.private.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0AFR2dI047334; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:27:03 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:27:02 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20040111.002702.783374572.chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp> To: garyj@jennejohn.org From: Nakata Maho In-Reply-To: <200401090055.i090ts1m008538@peedub.jennejohn.org> References: <200401090055.i090ts1m008538@peedub.jennejohn.org> Organization: private X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on XEmacs 21.4.14 (Reasonable Discussion) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: soren@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: success with GA-K8VNXP but problem with IDE disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:24:37 -0000 Hi, Gary > With 2 TwinMOS Twister PC3200 CL2 256MB DIMMs the motherboard freezes. > I'm currently using 2 old 256MB PC2100 DIMMs in it. Yeah I exactly see same symptom. Opteron prefer its favorite DIMMs. Be sure to use `recommended' DIMMs. Opteron has direct memory controller... I changed my DIMM twice. Regards, --maho From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 07:37:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBD116A4CE for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 07:37:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from debussy.private.org (25.60.138.210.bn.2iij.net [210.138.60.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D098043D45 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 07:37:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by debussy.private.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0AFe3dI056351 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:40:03 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:40:03 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20040111.004003.28786045.chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp> To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org From: Nakata Maho In-Reply-To: <20040108180214.GA79495@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20040107200042.67A0B16A4D2@hub.freebsd.org> <3FFCD437.6090704@citlink.net> <20040108180214.GA79495@dragon.nuxi.com> Organization: private X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on XEmacs 21.4.14 (Reasonable Discussion) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Opteron 4+0 or 4+2 dimm issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:37:33 -0000 Hi, David > I personally don't like any 4+0 DIMM configuration motherboard -- unless > it is treated as a 1P Opteron 1xy AGP workstation. I.E. the K8T > Master-FAR. 4+0 SMP configuration has NUMA performance issues that can't > be worked around. Well, the board still has some merit when used as an > SMP -- the memory latency across 1-hop is still better than today's > Pentium-4 SMP systems. I heard that HyperTransport (6.4G/sec?) is fast enough so that NUMA is not necessary to implement. can I ask some question? in FreeBSD/amd64 with SMP, is it always true that for a process runs at processor #1 allocates physical memory belongs also to processor #1? process A -------------------------> accesses DIMM#2 accesses DIMM#1 <-------------------------- process B processor #1 --HyperTransport-- processor #2 | | DIMM #1 DIMM #2 if total memory is 2G attached symmetrically, and if a process allocates near 2G bytes, how physical memory is allocated? Regards, maho From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 07:40:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DA916A4CE for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 07:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from debussy.private.org (25.60.138.210.bn.2iij.net [210.138.60.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E743743D31 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 07:39:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by debussy.private.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0AFgCdI060301; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:42:18 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:42:12 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20040111.004212.971160547.chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp> To: mjpelletier@mjpelletier.com From: Nakata Maho In-Reply-To: <20040106203548.s0gcg4ssgwsc8cks@www.mjpelletier.com> References: <0E972CEE334BFE4291CD07E056C76ED8CBBE06@bragi.housing.ufl.edu> <20040106203548.s0gcg4ssgwsc8cks@www.mjpelletier.com> Organization: private X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on XEmacs 21.4.14 (Reasonable Discussion) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: adridg@cs.kun.nl cc: WillS@housing.ufl.edu cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 support in 5.x versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:40:01 -0000 Hi, Michael > Please let me know if this gets fixed. I am just purchased the Tyan board. It > also has the Broadcom 10/100/1000 NICs builtin.... > > I too have been using FreeBSD since 2.0 and I am not looking forward to using > anything else. > What Tyan board? Thunder K8W(S2885)? --maho From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 07:43:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E94D16A4CE for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 07:43:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from debussy.private.org (25.60.138.210.bn.2iij.net [210.138.60.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1348F43D5C for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 07:43:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by debussy.private.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0AFk8dI069422 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:46:08 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:46:08 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20040111.004608.893776460.chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp> To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org From: Nakata Maho In-Reply-To: <200401090055.i090ts1m008538@peedub.jennejohn.org> References: <200401090055.i090ts1m008538@peedub.jennejohn.org> Organization: private X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on XEmacs 21.4.14 (Reasonable Discussion) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: success RIOWORKS HDAMB-WO X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:43:38 -0000 Hi all I tried RIOWORKS HDAMB-WO (4+0 DIMM configuration) and worked fine. bge0 workd. SMP version also worked fine. sorry I lost my log. Be careful to choose your DIMMs... --maho From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 16:20:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5621D16A4CE; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:20:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from debussy.private.org (25.60.138.210.bn.2iij.net [210.138.60.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD90D43D3F; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:20:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by debussy.private.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0B0NHRL001075; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 09:23:17 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 09:23:17 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20040111.092317.846935805.chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp> To: garyj@jennejohn.org From: Nakata Maho In-Reply-To: <20040111.002702.783374572.chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp> References: <200401090055.i090ts1m008538@peedub.jennejohn.org> <20040111.002702.783374572.chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp> Organization: private X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on XEmacs 21.4.14 (Reasonable Discussion) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: soren@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: success with GA-K8VNXP but problem with IDE disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:20:47 -0000 In Message-ID: <20040111.002702.783374572.chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp> Nakata Maho wrote: > Hi, Gary > > > With 2 TwinMOS Twister PC3200 CL2 256MB DIMMs the motherboard freezes. > > I'm currently using 2 old 256MB PC2100 DIMMs in it. > > Yeah I exactly see same symptom. > Opteron prefer its favorite DIMMs. Be sure to use `recommended' DIMMs. > Opteron has direct memory controller... I changed my DIMM twice. Additional commment for my e-mail: Century-Micro (may not familiar for people outside Japan, but this vendor is very famous for stableness) http://www.century-micro.com/ 512Mb PC2700 with DRAM NANYA 0303 NT5DS64MBT-6K 23560BPT with ECC chip Hitachi 2M4RCDCV857 _DOESN'T WORK_ ECC chip CCP174SSTVF 16857A A503110C WORKS! symptom is following: just after doing make world, around 5 miniutes, Opteron machine cholks :( --maho From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 17:54:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51E016A4CE for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:54:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from malkavian.ghostar.ath.cx (rrcs-sw-24-153-201-7.biz.rr.com [24.153.201.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AF143D60 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:54:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hcoyote@malkavian.ghostar.ath.cx) Received: from malkavian.ghostar.ath.cx (hcoyote@localhost.ghostar.ath.cx [127.0.0.1])i0B1sXva033768 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:54:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hcoyote@malkavian.ghostar.ath.cx) Received: (from hcoyote@localhost) by malkavian.ghostar.ath.cx (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id i0B1sXVC033767 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:54:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:54:33 -0600 From: HCoyote To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040111015433.GA33258@malkavian.ghostar.ath.cx> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <200401090055.i090ts1m008538@peedub.jennejohn.org> <20040111.002702.783374572.chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp> <20040111.092317.846935805.chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040111.092317.846935805.chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Re: success with GA-K8VNXP but problem with IDE disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 01:54:50 -0000 On Sun, Jan 11, 2004 at 09:23:17AM +0900, Nakata Maho wrote: > > Additional commment for my e-mail: > > Century-Micro (may not familiar for people outside Japan, but > this vendor is very famous for stableness) > http://www.century-micro.com/ > > 512Mb PC2700 with > > DRAM > NANYA 0303 > NT5DS64MBT-6K > 23560BPT > > with ECC chip > Hitachi 2M4RCDCV857 > > _DOESN'T WORK_ > > ECC chip > CCP174SSTVF > 16857A > A503110C > > WORKS! > > symptom is following: > just after doing make world, around 5 miniutes, Opteron machine > cholks :( Sounds like a particular revision of Buffalo memory we had. My biggest suggestion for dealing with specing an Opteron system's memory parts is to look at http://www.cmtlabs.com/ and see what the recommended memory is for your chosen motherboard. We've had good success with ATP and Infineon on the Rioworks HDAMA. (if needed, I can get the specific part numbers on Monday when I'm back at work) Travis From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 18:44:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA14116A4CE for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:44:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from debussy.private.org (25.60.138.210.bn.2iij.net [210.138.60.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA5343D39 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:44:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by debussy.private.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0B2lKBX024846; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 11:47:20 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 11:47:20 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20040111.114720.730553329.chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp> To: hcoyote@ghostar.ath.cx From: Nakata Maho In-Reply-To: <20040111015433.GA33258@malkavian.ghostar.ath.cx> References: <20040111.002702.783374572.chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp> <20040111.092317.846935805.chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp> <20040111015433.GA33258@malkavian.ghostar.ath.cx> Organization: private X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on XEmacs 21.4.14 (Reasonable Discussion) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: success with GA-K8VNXP but problem with IDE disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 02:44:51 -0000 Hi, In Message-ID: <20040111015433.GA33258@malkavian.ghostar.ath.cx> HCoyote wrote: > Sounds like a particular revision of Buffalo memory we had. might be. > My biggest suggestion for dealing with specing an Opteron system's memory parts > is to look at http://www.cmtlabs.com/ and see what the recommended memory is > for your chosen motherboard. Hm, I know it, but unfortunately, there are no data for Tyan thunder k8w (S2885) and Rioworks HDAMB-WO... anyway, for Rioworks HDAMB-WO, o RIOWORKS HDAMB-WO http://www.rioworks.co.jp/motherboard/popup/hdamb.html I found a PDF (though it was written in Japanese). o AMD Opteron Processor Compatible DDR Memory Modules AMD Tested Memory Validated DIMMs - AMD Opteron Processor http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_8796_8819%5E9394,00.html > (if needed, I can get the specific part numbers on Monday when I'm back at > work) we need your info! absolutely. Regards, maho From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 23:11:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BA016A4CE for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:11:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from web21509.mail.yahoo.com (web21509.mail.yahoo.com [66.163.169.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A81743D53 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:11:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danimariepies@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040111071139.34614.qmail@web21509.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [137.151.126.146] by web21509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:11:39 PST Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:11:39 -0800 (PST) From: Veronica Brainfluff To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: join X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:11:39 -0000 join __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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I have an AMD Athlon XP processor. Is this going to cause any problems for me? I see different downloads for specific builds, AMD64, i386. Another question is why is there only release notes for i386 for v.5.2 but not for v.5.1? I hope this email goes through, I wasn't sure if I had to request to join.. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus