From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 21 10:05:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7EE16A4CE; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:05:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.tue.nl (mailhost.tue.nl [131.155.2.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D89843D2F; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:05:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mriem@win.tue.nl) Received: by mailhost.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 40) id 00A3214E7D6; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:58:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from wscalc2.win.tue.nl (wscalc2.win.tue.nl [131.155.70.159]) by mailhost.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B8A14E7C9; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:58:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from wscalc2.win.tue.nl (localhost.win.tue.nl [127.0.0.1]) by wscalc2.win.tue.nl (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i2LEwM3E023364; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:58:22 +0100 Received: (from mriem@localhost) by wscalc2.win.tue.nl (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i2LEwKV1023362; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:58:20 +0100 Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:58:20 +0100 From: Manfred Riem To: wpaul@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040321145820.GA23350@gazelle.win.tue.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on mailhost.tue.nl X-Spam-DCC: servers: mailhost.tue.nl 1049; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.3 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.61 X-Spam-Level: cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Project Evil and Dell TrueMobile 1300 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 18:05:06 -0000 Hi Paul, I've tried to get Project Evil working for my Dell True Mobile 1300, which is using the 'bcmwl5.sys' driver. I have got it compiling and ended up with the if_ndis.ko file. Upon loading it tells me link_elf: symbol bus_alloc_resource_any undefined Note that I have done this using 5.2.1 and copied the files as you suggested in a email on the freebsd-hardware list. Any hints? I know that it is almost impossible to debug this, but can you give it a try? If you really need access to it, please contact me offlist. Manfred Riem mriem@win.tue.nl http://www.riaca.win.tue.nl/ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 21 12:04:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 618) id 3AAC916A4CF; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 12:04:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20040321145820.GA23350@gazelle.win.tue.nl> from Manfred Riem at "Mar 21, 2004 03:58:20 pm" To: mriem@win.tue.nl (Manfred Riem) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 12:04:48 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20040321200448.3AAC916A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> From: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Evil and Dell TrueMobile 1300 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:04:48 -0000 > Hi Paul, No no, it's 'Hi Bill.' See where it says "Bill Paul" all over the place, not "Paul Bill?" Read it. Learn it. Live it. Damn it. > I've tried to get Project Evil working for my Dell True Mobile 1300, which > is using the 'bcmwl5.sys' driver. I have got it compiling and ended up with > the if_ndis.ko file. > > Upon loading it tells me > > link_elf: symbol bus_alloc_resource_any undefined > > Note that I have done this using 5.2.1 and copied the files as you > suggested in a email on the freebsd-hardware list. > > Any hints? I know that it is almost impossible to debug this, but > can you give it a try? If you really need access to it, please contact > me offlist. Apparently the bus_alloc_resource_any() function was added recently in -current as a replacement for bus_alloc_resource() that uses less arguments, and _every_ _single_ consumer of the bus_alloc_resource() API was updated to use it, including the NDISulator. All it does in this case is break backwards compatibility with 5.2.x though, so I have backed the changes to the NDISulator code out. Download if_ndis_pccard.c and if_ndis_pci.c again and recompile, then it should work. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (510) 749-2329 | Senior Engineer, Master of Unix-Fu wpaul@windriver.com | Wind River Systems ============================================================================= you're just BEGGING to face the moose ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 21 14:44:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868B516A4CE; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:44:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from kweetal.tue.nl (kweetal.tue.nl [131.155.3.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B740C43D3F; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:44:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mriem@win.tue.nl) Received: by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 40) id 08FCC13B6C4; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 23:44:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from wscalc2.win.tue.nl (wscalc2.win.tue.nl [131.155.70.159]) by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0249F13B638; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 23:44:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from wscalc2.win.tue.nl (localhost.win.tue.nl [127.0.0.1]) by wscalc2.win.tue.nl (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i2LMic3E024346; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 23:44:38 +0100 Received: (from mriem@localhost) by wscalc2.win.tue.nl (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i2LMiacE024344; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 23:44:36 +0100 Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 23:44:36 +0100 From: Manfred Riem To: Bill Paul Message-ID: <20040321224436.GA24338@gazelle.win.tue.nl> References: <20040321145820.GA23350@gazelle.win.tue.nl> <20040321200448.3AAC916A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040321200448.3AAC916A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on kweetal.tue.nl X-Spam-DCC: : kweetal.tue.nl 1074; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.3 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.61 X-Spam-Level: cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Project Evil and Dell TrueMobile 1300 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 22:44:46 -0000 Hi Bill, > No no, it's 'Hi Bill.' See where it says "Bill Paul" all over the > place, not "Paul Bill?" Read it. Learn it. Live it. Damn it. I stand corrected. Sorry about doing that to you. > > I've tried to get Project Evil working for my Dell True Mobile 1300, which > > is using the 'bcmwl5.sys' driver. I have got it compiling and ended up with > > the if_ndis.ko file. > > > > Upon loading it tells me > > > > link_elf: symbol bus_alloc_resource_any undefined > > > > Note that I have done this using 5.2.1 and copied the files as you > > suggested in a email on the freebsd-hardware list. > > > > Any hints? I know that it is almost impossible to debug this, but > > can you give it a try? If you really need access to it, please contact > > me offlist. > > Apparently the bus_alloc_resource_any() function was added recently in > -current as a replacement for bus_alloc_resource() that uses less > arguments, and _every_ _single_ consumer of the bus_alloc_resource() > API was updated to use it, including the NDISulator. All it does in this > case is break backwards compatibility with 5.2.x though, so I have backed > the changes to the NDISulator code out. Download if_ndis_pccard.c > and if_ndis_pci.c again and recompile, then it should work. Got it working on 5.2.1! Thanx a lot. Manfred Riem mriem@win.tue.nl http://www.riaca.win.tue.nl/ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 21 17:51:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506F516A4CE for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 17:51:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.hks.com (mail.hks.com [63.125.197.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0D343D2F for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 17:51:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter.tardif@abaqus.com) Received: from localhost (mail.hks.com [63.125.197.5]) by mail.hks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC3D9BB24 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hks.com ([63.125.197.5]) by localhost (mail [63.125.197.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08096-02-4 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from gimli.hks.com (gimli.hks.com [63.125.197.135]) by mail.hks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34FE9BB22 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gimli.hks.com [172.16.4.1]) by gimli.hks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A066224AE05 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from gimli.hks.com ([172.16.4.1]) by localhost (gimli [172.16.4.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 31384-01-14 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from bifrost.hks.com (bifrost.hks.com [172.16.0.143]) by gimli.hks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D31324ADFA for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ELF (unknown [192.168.250.107]) by bifrost.hks.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6CCB7654558 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:51:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Pete Tardif" To: Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:51:58 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hks.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hks.com Subject: Compatibility problem: DFE-570TX (dc(4)) & Linksys router/switch X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: peter.tardif@abaqus.com List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:51:34 -0000 Ken, I am experiencing a similar problem with the DFE-550TX card running Windows XP. The D-Link card communicates fine with a 3Com router, but fails to detect the WRT54G. The Intel PRO/1000 MT Mobile connection on my laptop works fine with the WRT54G (wired and wireless), so it appears that all of the hardware is fine, just an incompatibility between the WRT54G and the DFE-550TX. Have you found a solution to your problem ? Thanks -Pete From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 21 18:52:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 618) id EF9B216A4D0; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 18:52:06 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 18:52:06 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20040322025206.EF9B216A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> From: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) Subject: For those with Intel Centrino 2200BG wireless... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 02:52:07 -0000 If you are one of the people with a laptop that has an Intel Centrino 2200BG 802.11b/g miniPCI card, you can now use this card with the NDISulator. However, there is one big gotcha to be aware of. The w22n51.sys driver does an alloca() of approximately 5000 bytes when it associates with a network. This is a little unfriendly, but it works in Windows because the Windows kernel stack is large enough to accomodate it. The FreeBSD kernel stack is 2 pages (8192 bytes on i386) whic is smaller than the Windows kernel size. This means the alloca() will overflow the stack and kill the kernel. There's two ways to deal with this problem: one is to run the offending code in a kthread that has more than the default number of stack pages. You're supposed to be able to create such a thread by specifying a non-zero 'pages' argument to kthread_create(). The only problem is, vm_machdep.c is buggy and always initializes the stack pointer for a thread using the compile-time constant KTHREAD_PAGES rather than the dynamically selected pages value passed to kthread_create(), so no matter how many extra stack pages you try to allocate, the alloca() still smashes the stack. Long story short, if you want to use the Intel 2200BG card, you need to do one of the following: - If you use -current, then just make sure you sync up all of your sources, including all of the NDISulator code and sys/i386/i386/vm_machdep.c, which I fixed today. Or: - If you use 5.2-RELEASE or 5.2.1-RELEASE, grab the latest NDISulator code from -current _AND_ add compile a new kernel with the following line added to your kernel config file: options KSTACK_PAGES=8 The vm_machdep fix should get propagated to all the other arches soon. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (510) 749-2329 | Senior Engineer, Master of Unix-Fu wpaul@windriver.com | Wind River Systems ============================================================================= you're just BEGGING to face the moose ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 22 01:24:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318F916A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:24:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.newlines.ru (mail.newlines.ru [195.54.211.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541F343D3F for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:24:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anton@nikiforov.ru) Received: from mail.newlines.ru (root@localhost) by mail.newlines.ru (8.12.10/8.12.9) with SMTP id i2M9OPgE019997 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 09:24:40 GMT (envelope-from anton@nikiforov.ru) Received: from nikiforov.ru (florent-mashin.rmt.ru [81.13.8.34]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.newlines.ru (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i2M9OKRA019893 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 09:24:20 GMT (envelope-from anton@nikiforov.ru) Message-ID: <405EB04F.1070603@nikiforov.ru> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:22:23 +0300 From: Anton Nikiforov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040307 X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000809030809060103080801" Subject: NDIS not compiled X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: anton@nikiforov.ru List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 09:24:57 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000809030809060103080801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear All I'm trying to start my WiFi adapter under FreeBSD-CURRENT (cvsuped today) usinf NDISulator. I made an ndis_driver_data.h file using ndiscvt -i bcmwl5a.inf -s bcmwl5.sys -n bcw -o ndis_driver_data.h (I have even tryed not to use -n option - it is make no sence, and currently it is turned off) Then i edited my kernel configuration file and added options NDISAPI device ndis device wlan options KSTACK_PAGES=8 (The last string is taken from one of discussions here, just in case, i have even tryed without it the result is the same) Then cd /usr/src && make buildkernel KERNCONF=PRESARIO produce the following error: cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/pf -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -ffreestanding -Werror vers.c linking kernel if_ndis_pci.o: In function `ndis_attach_pci': if_ndis_pci.o(.text+0x55e): undefined reference to `ndis_attach' if_ndis_pci.o(.data+0xf4): undefined reference to `ndis_detach' if_ndis_pci.o(.data+0xfc): undefined reference to `ndis_shutdown' if_ndis_pci.o(.data+0x104): undefined reference to `ndis_suspend' if_ndis_pci.o(.data+0x10c): undefined reference to `ndis_resume' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PRESARIO. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. 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Mon, 22 Mar 2004 02:56:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from xorpc.icir.org (xorpc.icir.org [192.150.187.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F47B43D1D; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 02:56:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rizzo@icir.org) Received: from xorpc.icir.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xorpc.icir.org (8.12.9p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i2MAuLRS082769; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 02:56:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rizzo@xorpc.icir.org) Received: (from rizzo@localhost) by xorpc.icir.org (8.12.9p1/8.12.3/Submit) id i2MAuLBs082768; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 02:56:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rizzo) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 02:56:21 -0800 From: Luigi Rizzo To: Bill Paul Message-ID: <20040322025621.A82392@xorpc.icir.org> References: <20040322025206.EF9B216A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20040322025206.EF9B216A4D0@hub.freebsd.org>; from wpaul@freebsd.org on Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 06:52:06PM -0800 cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: For those with Intel Centrino 2200BG wireless... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:56:22 -0000 On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 06:52:06PM -0800, Bill Paul wrote: ... > accomodate it. The FreeBSD kernel stack is 2 pages (8192 bytes on > i386) whic is smaller than the Windows kernel size. This means the how bad is it to use a larger default, e.g. the 8 pages you suggested ? cheers luigi > - If you use 5.2-RELEASE or 5.2.1-RELEASE, grab the latest NDISulator > code from -current _AND_ add compile a new kernel with the following > line added to your kernel config file: > > options KSTACK_PAGES=8 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 22 08:53:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 618) id 8BAD316A4CF; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 08:53:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20040322025621.A82392@xorpc.icir.org> from Luigi Rizzo at "Mar 22, 2004 02:56:21 am" To: rizzo@icir.org (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 08:53:53 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20040322165353.8BAD316A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> From: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: For those with Intel Centrino 2200BG wireless... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:53:53 -0000 > On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 06:52:06PM -0800, Bill Paul wrote: > ... > > accomodate it. The FreeBSD kernel stack is 2 pages (8192 bytes on > > i386) whic is smaller than the Windows kernel size. This means the > > how bad is it to use a larger default, e.g. the 8 pages you suggested ? > > cheers > luigi Changing KSTACK_PAGES to 8 means each kernel thread in the system will consume 32K of stack space instead of 8K. In other words, you'd consume a little more memory for each thread. That's the only effect. I think the Windows kernel stack is 16K, but I couldn't remember for sure and I wasn't able to track down the reference where I discovered the information the first time. Using KSTACK_PAGES=4 is probably more reasonable. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (510) 749-2329 | Senior Engineer, Master of Unix-Fu wpaul@windriver.com | Wind River Systems ============================================================================= you're just BEGGING to face the moose ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 22 09:53:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C437B16A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 09:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (bay9-f65.bay9.hotmail.com [64.4.47.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947B743D2F for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 09:53:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from a_hamiid@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 09:53:23 -0800 Received: from 213.140.22.71 by by9fd.bay9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:53:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.140.22.71] X-Originating-Email: [a_hamiid@hotmail.com] X-Sender: a_hamiid@hotmail.com From: "hamid alam" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:53:23 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2004 17:53:23.0524 (UTC) FILETIME=[91E5A040:01C41036] Subject: Bradcom 4401 lan driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:53:24 -0000 inform me if possible send me driver _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 22 11:02:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956C116A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:02:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from pr93.lublin.sdi.tpnet.pl (pr93.lublin.sdi.tpnet.pl [217.97.36.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1BB1443D31 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:02:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michal@pasternak.w.lub.pl) Received: (qmail 3678 invoked by uid 1002); 22 Mar 2004 20:02:44 -0000 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:02:44 +0100 From: Michal Pasternak To: hamid alam Message-ID: <20040322200244.GB5332@pasternak.w.lub.pl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bradcom 4401 lan driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Michal Pasternak List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:02:55 -0000 hamid alam [Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 05:53:23PM +0000]: > inform me if possible send me driver I have no idea what "Bradcom" is. In case you meant Broadcom, here you are: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2003-July/001109.html It was some time ago, perhaps support has been integrated to FreeBSD-CURRENT, but I have no idea about this. HTH, -- Michal Pasternak :: http://pasternak.w.lub.pl :: http://winsrc.sf.net From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 22 11:04:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C90216A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from pr93.lublin.sdi.tpnet.pl (pr93.lublin.sdi.tpnet.pl [217.97.36.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF86A43D45 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:04:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michal@pasternak.w.lub.pl) Received: (qmail 5459 invoked by uid 1002); 22 Mar 2004 20:04:16 -0000 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:04:16 +0100 From: Michal Pasternak To: hamid alam Message-ID: <20040322200416.GA3399@pasternak.w.lub.pl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bradcom 4401 lan driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Michal Pasternak List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:04:26 -0000 hamid alam [Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 05:53:23PM +0000]: > inform me if possible send me driver Ah, I was quite wrong in my last e-mail: the driver should be MFCed: http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org/msg45429.html What specific problems with it do you have? Take care, -- Michal Pasternak :: http://pasternak.w.lub.pl :: http://winsrc.sf.net From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 22 14:25:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCE716A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.pcnet.com (mail.pcnet.com [204.213.232.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4AC943D3F for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:25:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eischen@vigrid.com) Received: from mail.pcnet.com (mail.pcnet.com [204.213.232.4]) by mail.pcnet.com (8.12.10/8.12.1) with ESMTP id i2MMPctf014374 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:25:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:25:38 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Eischen X-Sender: eischen@pcnet5.pcnet.com To: hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Rackmount SCSI storage X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: deischen@freebsd.org List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 22:25:39 -0000 Anyone got any good pointers for a rackmount SCSI storage enclosure? I want just SCSI, not motherboard & CPU. I need 2 or more disk drive bays, and the ability to throw a SCSI DAT drive in also. The drives bays should be easily removed and built well; they will be removed at the end of every day (security requirements) by oafs who have no concept of finesse. The enclosure should have a 68-pin (Ultra2/3) SCSI connector on the back to be connected to a rackmount computer. 3U or 4U is OK, 2U is better. I'm not looking for cheap equipment; it's your hard-earned tax dollars at work. Here's a link of something similar, but that vendor hasn't responded to any inquiries: http://www.zmicro.com/products/2xtp.htm Oh yeah, the vendor should be in the US. Thanks, -- Dan Eischen From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 23 08:35:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE4216A4CE for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:35:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca (ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.50.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320A743D3F for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:35:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bruce@engmail.uwaterloo.ca) Received: from ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca (localhost.uwaterloo.ca [127.0.0.1]) i2NGZKmM088604 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:35:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bruce@engmail.uwaterloo.ca) Received: (from www@localhost) by ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca (8.12.6p2/8.12.6/Submit) id i2NGZKlT088603 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:35:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bruce@engmail.uwaterloo.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca: www set sender to bruce@engmail.uwaterloo.ca using -f Received: from 129.97.50.50 ( [129.97.50.50])HTTP; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:35:20 -0500 Message-ID: <1080059720.40606748157d1@www.nexusmail.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:35:20 -0500 From: Bruce Campbell To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 / FreeBSD-4.6.2 X-Originating-IP: 129.97.50.50 Subject: Supermicro 6013L8/6013P8 w Adaptec 2015S and FreeBSD 4.9... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 16:35:22 -0000 I tested out FreeBSD 4.9 on a Supermicro 6013L8 which uses a Serverworks chipset, Adaptec AIC-7902 with 2015S zero channel RAID. All went well during a week of burn in tests. Then I bought three 6013P8 systems which use the Intel E7501 chipset, plus same Adaptec stuff. FreeBSD 4.9 doesn't find the disks (asr device). 5.1 works (I have not downloaded 5.2.1 yet but assume it will work) I hadn't planned to move to FreeBSD 5 already, but will if it is the only way I can get these systems to work. Any suggestions ? -- Bruce Campbell Engineering Computing CPH-2374B University of Waterloo (519)888-4567 ext 5889 ---------------------------------------- This mail sent through www.mywaterloo.ca From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 23 15:15:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FEA16A4CE for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 15:15:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (bay10-f48.bay10.hotmail.com [64.4.37.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B41143D3F for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 15:15:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from r0ck1np3ngu1n@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 15:15:55 -0800 Received: from 24.3.151.103 by by10fd.bay10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:15:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.3.151.103] X-Originating-Email: [r0ck1np3ngu1n@hotmail.com] X-Sender: r0ck1np3ngu1n@hotmail.com From: "Steven Kang" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:15:55 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2004 23:15:55.0490 (UTC) FILETIME=[CAFB0C20:01C4112C] Subject: During the installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:15:56 -0000 I have a slight problem with my computer. While i was installing fbsd 4.9, it said that it couldn't find the disk. Well, to me, everything looks right. I have one hdd, and it is set as primary master ide My CD rom is setted as ide slave. I checked it in my bios setup hdd : I use Maxtor 6Y060L0 60GB cdrom : HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8523B I have no idea why it won't let me install fbsd. When i remove my cd-rom drive, it works( seriously) i think there is something going on between my hdd and cdrom can somebody help me? += Princess of "UlaShong Empire", TtoTtoNyang's property Pen2 A.K.A. Zecrose A.K.A. r0ck1np3ngu1n. Brother of Morecs A.K.A. Steve =+ Proud Clan Leader of [ChDr] -={ Chainsaw Disasters }=- Proud to be a member of ^e.k.^ /\eg9 k1ll3r/\ < President of P.L.A. > &, Penguin Lover's Association, & >>Member of King Fam. << Son of Glendon, the drug lord. Son of Dorothy, evil mommy. Bro of Eric, poor messed up kid. Bro of Amy, psychic sis. Bro of Chels, the symbol of insanity. Nephew of Mike, the worst bass player. Special thanx to my beloved friend/sis/guardian like Tto Tto Nyang, and my family like [ChDr] members. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page √ FREE download! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 23 23:57:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5FD316A4CE for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:57:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from brabys.co.za (postoffice.brabys.co.za [192.96.48.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C96C43D1D for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:57:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nelis@brabys.co.za) Received: from [192.96.48.37] (proxy-inner.brabys.co.za [192.96.48.11]) by brabys.co.za (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id i2O7u63m013704 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:56:06 +0200 From: Nelis Lamprecht To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1080114966.33376.276.camel@enigma.8ball.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:56:07 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Slow transfer speeds with U320 drives and HP Smart Array 641 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: nelis@brabys.co.za List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 07:57:09 -0000 Hi, With the ciss driver on my HP ProLiant ML350 I've noticed the transfer speed on my RAID controller is only. da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 135.168MB/s transfers da0: 69459MB (142253280 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 17433C) Both my drives on the RAID controller are U320 72GB pluggable SCSI's. The RAID card also has the optional 64MB battery backed write back cache enabler installed. I also have a AIC 50/100 Tape Drive in the machine which is connected to the onboard SCSI interface. sa0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 7, 16bit) My question is why the slow transfer speed of the RAID controller ? Does this have anything to do with the slower SCSI Tape Drive or is this a limitation of the ciss driver ? Or perhaps I have misconfigured something ? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks for your reply. Kind Regards, Nelis From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 23 18:07:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EC116A4CE for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 18:07:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from blitzen.qlo.com (blitzen.qlo.com [142.165.150.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C66543D39 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 18:07:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gregfellner@sasktel.net) Received: from greg (hsdbrg142-165-57-243.sasknet.sk.ca [142.165.57.243]) by mail.qlo.com (SaskTel eMessaging Service) freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 20:07:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 20:07:30 -0600 From: Greg & Jenn To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-id: <000601c41144$c44a0490$f339a58e@greg> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2727.1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 05:48:31 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: multiport serial card X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 02:07:41 -0000 Nice name! 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From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 23 21:46:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2818216A4CE for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:46:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D02A43D45 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:46:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scphantm@yahoo.com) Received: from williehome (c-24-3-144-103.client.comcast.net[24.3.144.103]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2004032405460401400jj5jpe>; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 05:46:04 +0000 From: "Steel City Phantom" To: Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 00:47:11 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c41163$76afe550$6502a8c0@williehome> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C41139.8DE17E70" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 05:48:31 -0800 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Promise SX4000 driver update? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 05:46:14 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C41139.8DE17E70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is the status of this driver? I don't know if I can attach files to this, but I am including Linux source from Promise to compile this driver. It doesn't compile for me on BSD, doesn't surprise me, but it may help soren or whoever is taking this over. Thanks, if the attachment doesn't come through, let me know and I will send it. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C41139.8DE17E70-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 24 07:53:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C51916A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 07:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from gaff.hhhr.ision.net (gaff.hhhr.ision.net [195.180.9.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A7D43D48 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 07:53:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ohoyer@ohoyer.de) Received: from gaff.hhhr.ision.net (ohoyer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gaff.hhhr.ision.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i2OFro0g061428; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:53:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohoyer@ohoyer.de) Received: from localhost (ohoyer@localhost)i2OFrikv061425; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:53:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohoyer@ohoyer.de) X-Authentication-Warning: gaff.hhhr.ision.net: ohoyer owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:53:44 +0100 (CET) From: Olaf Hoyer Sender: ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net To: Nelis Lamprecht In-Reply-To: <1080114966.33376.276.camel@enigma.8ball.co.za> Message-ID: <20040324164836.Q61406@gaff.hhhr.ision.net> References: <1080114966.33376.276.camel@enigma.8ball.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slow transfer speeds with U320 drives and HP Smart Array 641 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:53:53 -0000 On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Nelis Lamprecht wrote: > Hi, > > With the ciss driver on my HP ProLiant ML350 I've noticed the transfer > speed on my RAID controller is only. > > da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da0: 135.168MB/s transfers > da0: 69459MB (142253280 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 17433C) > > Both my drives on the RAID controller are U320 72GB pluggable SCSI's. > The RAID card also has the optional 64MB battery backed write back cache > enabler installed. Hi! well, I also see the possibility that in this case, the theoretical transfer limit of the PCI Bus is displayed... Yes, the the controllers are 64bit, but... would explain a bit. Just my 2 Cents Olaf -- Olaf Hoyer ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net Fuerchterliche Erlebniss geben zu raten, ob der, welcher sie erlebt, nicht etwas Fuerchterliches ist. (Nietzsche, Jenseits von Gut und Boese) From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 24 12:29:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8AD516A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:29:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981BC43D46 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:29:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scphantm@yahoo.com) Received: from williehome (c-24-3-144-103.client.comcast.net[24.3.144.103]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2004032420293301600t4l2re>; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:29:33 +0000 From: "Steel City Phantom" To: Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:30:48 -0500 Message-ID: <002801c411de$e4c58ba0$6502a8c0@williehome> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <000001c41163$76afe550$6502a8c0@williehome> Subject: RE: Promise SX4000 driver update? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:29:35 -0000 PLEASE, I have a tight deadline and need to get this box running. If this card won't work, what other ATA-133 RAID 5 card can I use? Thanks, a desperate Willie -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Steel City Phantom Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 12:47 AM To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Promise SX4000 driver update? What is the status of this driver? I don't know if I can attach files to this, but I am including Linux source from Promise to compile this driver. It doesn't compile for me on BSD, doesn't surprise me, but it may help soren or whoever is taking this over. Thanks, if the attachment doesn't come through, let me know and I will send it. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 24 13:56:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7305E16A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 13:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from natrium.plan-ix.de (natrium.plan-ix.de [212.37.39.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F91743D46 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 13:56:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from braukmann@tse-online.de) Received: (qmail 37670 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2004 21:38:20 -0000 Received: from p50824bc0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (HELO ?192.168.225.100?) (ab%plan-ix.de@80.130.75.192) by natrium.plan-ix.de with SMTP; 24 Mar 2004 21:38:20 -0000 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:38:19 +0100 From: Andreas Braukmann To: Steel City Phantom Message-ID: <46600000.1080164299@cage.int.unixxinu.de> In-Reply-To: <002801c411de$e4c58ba0$6502a8c0@williehome> References: <002801c411de$e4c58ba0$6502a8c0@williehome> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.0 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Promise SX4000 driver update? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:56:47 -0000 On 03/24/04 15:30:48 -0500 Steel City Phantom wrote: > PLEASE, I have a tight deadline and need to get this box running. If > this card won't work, what other ATA-133 RAID 5 card can I use? Use the archives. ==> 3ware - the full product range (P-ATA / S-ATA, twe(4)) ==> Adaptec - 2400A (P-ATA ATA-100, asr(4)), 2410 (S-ATA, aac(4)) Various other P-ATA/S-ATA RAID-Controllers from the typical SCSI-RAID producers (Intel, ICP-Vortex, AMI) which are compatible to their SCSI-pendants on the driver level. -Andreas, using 3Ware as "data heap controllers" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 24 19:17:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C366F16A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:17:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from hunter.ipstats.com (hunter.ipstats.com [209.161.177.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6288243D2D for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:17:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sdas@eeinternet.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by hunter.ipstats.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id i2P3HqJ06859 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:17:52 -0900 Received: from eeinternet.com (hayes.ipstats.com [209.161.177.103]) by hunter.ipstats.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i2P3Hpi06775 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:17:52 -0900 Message-ID: <40624F82.1090104@eeinternet.com> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:18:26 -0900 From: "S. M. Das" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de, ru, es, ja, zh, zh-cn, zh-hk, zh-sg, zh-tw, ko, fr, it, fi, nl, no, sv, pl, ar, pt, th, el, he, eo MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (http://amavis.org/) Subject: Project Evil: The Evil Continues (c/o Bill Paul, info on theADM8211 chipset wireless nic) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 03:17:53 -0000 Couldn't help but notice, linked from ndiswrapper.sf.net: - ADMtek 8211 wireless LAN chipset. This one should also work, but I can't find any cards with this chipset in my local computer stores. A buddy of mine just told me that buy.com is selling an SMC branded one of these babies for 19 bucks, and SMC is giving a $10 mail-in rebate, which means that perhaps someone nice in the world (surely not me :) could put one into your grubby mitts for only $9 (free shipping). Not that I'm a big fan of Buy.com, but, hey, it's only nine dollars. Cheers! Here are the related links: http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10345316&dcaid=1688 ... and ... http://ak.buy.com/buy_assets/retail/pdfs/007/SMC2635WRebateEcom.pdf -- Sunit M. Das : Developer/Analyst ph# (907) 456-5581 : fax# (907) 456-3111 Engineering & Environmental Internet Solutions, LLC 530 7th Ave. Suite #1 : Fairbanks, AK 99701 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 24 22:37:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D446D16A4CE; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:37:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676F743D1D; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:37:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i2P6bnkj023431; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:37:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:37:53 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20040324.233753.131271636.imp@bsdimp.com> To: wpaul@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20040322025206.EF9B216A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20040322025206.EF9B216A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: For those with Intel Centrino 2200BG wireless... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 06:37:51 -0000 In message: <20040322025206.EF9B216A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> wpaul@freebsd.org (Bill Paul) writes: : If you are one of the people with a laptop that has an Intel Centrino : 2200BG 802.11b/g miniPCI card, you can now use this card with the : NDISulator. Thanks for all your hard work to make this card work. I'd resigned myself to rotating through my collection of wireless cards for this laptop, even though I had the 2200BG card in it. The laptop is too much of a pita to disassemble to insert a new minipci card in it. One thing that I have to do with this card that I don't have to do with my wi and an based cards is set the ssid like so: ifconfig ndis media autoselect ssid MyNetIsCool up before I do the dhclient (and thanks for suggesting this workaround, btw). Once again, thanks for the working hardware! Warner From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 26 05:03:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4665716A4CE for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 05:03:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from ctcbv.xs4all.nl (ctcbv.xs4all.nl [194.109.160.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6760B43D41 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 05:03:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsdmail@ctc.nl) Received: from support-8.local (unknown [192.168.1.108]) by ctcbv.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFD1487 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:02:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:02:52 +0100 (Romaans (standaardtijd)) From: Frans Meijer To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: X-X-Sender: frans@mail.local MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: During the installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:03:09 -0000 On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, Steven Kang wrote: >While i was installing fbsd 4.9, it said that it couldn't find the disk. >Well, to me, everything looks right. > >I have one hdd, and it is set as primary master ide >My CD rom is setted as ide slave. > >I checked it in my bios setup > >hdd : I use Maxtor 6Y060L0 60GB >cdrom : HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8523B Long shot: do *not* set the BIOS to detect the primary slave (ie, the CDRom drive). I think I've had some trouble with this, though I am not sure it was related to FBSD. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 26 08:10:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87D816A4CE for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:10:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from accord.grasslake.net (accord.grasslake.net [209.98.56.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1CB43D39 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:10:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Received: from swbgx150 (honda.grasslake.net [192.168.1.1]) by accord.grasslake.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i2QG5Fbq033293 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:05:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Message-ID: <015801c4134c$d45f63c0$62229fc0@ad.campbellmithun.com> From: "Shawn Barnhart" To: Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:10:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Dual or quad NIC boards? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:10:21 -0000 I'm in the market for a dual or quad NIC board compatible with 4-STABLE (I'll do 5.x if I have to) for a router/firewall. Intel make a couple, are they known to be compatible? The NOS software compatibilty for the four port model lists it as "FreeBSD (latest kernel)", whatever that means. The 4-port one is my preference, although I'm not totally thrilled with the prices I've seen for it -- nearly $500. Anyone familiar with any cheaper versions? From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 26 09:42:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829FF16A4CE for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:42:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (mailbox.easyspeedy.dk [81.19.240.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0396743D45 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:42:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from per@xterm.dk) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (localhost.wingercom.dk [127.0.0.1]) by mailbox.wingercom.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id BD8D5931FE; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:45:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from 62.242.151.142 (SquirrelMail authenticated user per) by mailbox.wingercom.dk with HTTP; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:45:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <34641.62.242.151.142.1080323157.squirrel@mailbox.wingercom.dk> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:45:57 +0100 (CET) From: "Per Engelbrecht" To: In-Reply-To: <015801c4134c$d45f63c0$62229fc0@ad.campbellmithun.com> References: <015801c4134c$d45f63c0$62229fc0@ad.campbellmithun.com> X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual or quad NIC boards? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:42:19 -0000 Hi, I'm running Intel Pro1000MT (dual) / em driver on production-servers (fbsd4.9, fbsd5.2, obsd3.4) works just fine. This is also mentioned on fbsd and obsd sites under /hardware. respectfully /per per@xterm.dk > I'm in the market for a dual or quad NIC board compatible with > 4-STABLE (I'll do 5.x if I have to) for a router/firewall. > > Intel make a couple, are they known to be compatible? The NOS > software compatibilty for the four port model lists it as "FreeBSD > (latest kernel)", whatever that means. > > The 4-port one is my preference, although I'm not totally thrilled > with the prices I've seen for it -- nearly $500. Anyone familiar > with any cheaper versions? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 26 09:48:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D028C16A4CE for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:48:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from noao.edu (lsstmail.org [140.252.1.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B63943D3F for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:48:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grandi@noao.edu) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on noao.edu X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=4.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.61 X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.2.7 X-TFF-CGPSA-Filter: Scanned Received: from regulus.tuc.noao.edu (account grandi [140.252.1.146] verified) by noao.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 11203576; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:48:31 -0700 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:48:31 -0700 (MST) From: Steve Grandi X-X-Sender: grandi@regulus.tuc.noao.edu To: Shawn Barnhart In-Reply-To: <015801c4134c$d45f63c0$62229fc0@ad.campbellmithun.com> Message-ID: <20040326103155.I98033@regulus.tuc.noao.edu> References: <015801c4134c$d45f63c0$62229fc0@ad.campbellmithun.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual or quad NIC boards? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:48:33 -0000 On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Shawn Barnhart wrote: > I'm in the market for a dual or quad NIC board compatible with 4-STABLE > (I'll do 5.x if I have to) for a router/firewall. > > Intel make a couple, are they known to be compatible? The NOS software > compatibilty for the four port model lists it as "FreeBSD (latest kernel)", > whatever that means. > > The 4-port one is my preference, although I'm not totally thrilled with the > prices I've seen for it -- nearly $500. Anyone familiar with any cheaper > versions? The Adaptec ANA-62044 is a 4-port 10/100 NIC that is supported by the sf driver on both 4.X and 5.X. Adaptec seems to have moved onto the ANA-64044 (which I don't see mentioned on the sf(4) man page) but 62044 cards seemed easy to come by on EBay when I bought some spares not too long ago. -- Steve Grandi National Optical Astronomy Observatory/AURA Inc., Tucson AZ USA Internet: grandi@noao.edu Voice: +1 520 318-8228 FAX: +1 520 318-8360 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 26 10:34:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A28816A4CF for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:34:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from post.web.ca (post.web.ca [192.139.37.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB62C43D48 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:34:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rob@web.ca) Received: by post.web.ca (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 566B15BBE; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:34:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:34:06 -0500 From: Rob Ellis To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040326183405.GD34158@web.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Motherboard w/ ECC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:34:07 -0000 How important is ECC ram for a FreeBSD server? We've gone with Asus motherboards in the past, but most new ones don't support ECC... If ECC is important, any recommendations for a motherboard that supports AMD Athlon + ECC? Thanks. - Rob From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 26 12:12:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B123F16A4CE for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 12:12:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1.linkline.com (smtp1.linkline.com [66.59.235.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E89C43D41 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 12:12:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sclements@linkline.com) Received: from samclementsde (host-66-59-225-129.lcinet.net [66.59.225.129]) by smtp1.linkline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524A39CCF4; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 12:12:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Samuel Clements" To: "'Shawn Barnhart'" , Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 12:12:45 -0800 Organization: linkLINE Communications, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <015801c4134c$d45f63c0$62229fc0@ad.campbellmithun.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcQTTVc5AP3g7NohQlut4w7kxVKYbAADgZug Message-Id: <20040326201244.524A39CCF4@smtp1.linkline.com> Subject: RE: Dual or quad NIC boards? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: sclements@linkline.com List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:12:46 -0000 I have one of the Intel Quad Gig nics running in 4.6-RELEASE. em0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=3 inet 192.168.50.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.50.255 ether 00:04:23:08:15:f4 media: Ethernet 100baseTX status: active em1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=3 inet 192.168.52.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.52.255 ether 00:04:23:08:15:f5 media: Ethernet 1000baseTX status: active em2: flags=8802 mtu 1500 options=3 ether 00:04:23:08:15:f6 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) status: active em3: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=3 inet 192.168.54.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.54.255 ether 00:04:23:08:15:f7 media: Ethernet 1000baseTX status: active -Sam -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Shawn Barnhart Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 8:10 AM To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Dual or quad NIC boards? I'm in the market for a dual or quad NIC board compatible with 4-STABLE (I'll do 5.x if I have to) for a router/firewall. Intel make a couple, are they known to be compatible? The NOS software compatibilty for the four port model lists it as "FreeBSD (latest kernel)", whatever that means. The 4-port one is my preference, although I'm not totally thrilled with the prices I've seen for it -- nearly $500. Anyone familiar with any cheaper versions? _______________________________________________ freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 26 12:54:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1814B16A4CE for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 12:54:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.freebsdsystems.com (mx1.FreeBSDsystems.COM [69.90.68.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F12F43D39 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 12:54:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lnb@FreeBSDsystems.COM) Received: (qmail 38779 invoked by uid 0); 26 Mar 2004 20:54:03 -0000 Received: from h216-235-8-115.host.egate.net (HELO FreeBSDsystems.COM) (lnb@216.235.8.115) by mx1.freebsdsystems.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2004 20:54:03 -0000 Message-ID: <4064987E.8030904@FreeBSDsystems.COM> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:54:22 -0500 From: Lanny Baron User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031205 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sclements@linkline.com References: <20040326201244.524A39CCF4@smtp1.linkline.com> In-Reply-To: <20040326201244.524A39CCF4@smtp1.linkline.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: 'Shawn Barnhart' cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual or quad NIC boards? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:54:25 -0000 Now show me a ping from all of them :) Samuel Clements wrote: >I have one of the Intel Quad Gig nics running in 4.6-RELEASE. > >em0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > options=3 > inet 192.168.50.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.50.255 > ether 00:04:23:08:15:f4 > media: Ethernet 100baseTX > status: active >em1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > options=3 > inet 192.168.52.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.52.255 > ether 00:04:23:08:15:f5 > media: Ethernet 1000baseTX > status: active >em2: flags=8802 mtu 1500 > options=3 > ether 00:04:23:08:15:f6 > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) > status: active >em3: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > options=3 > inet 192.168.54.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.54.255 > ether 00:04:23:08:15:f7 > media: Ethernet 1000baseTX > status: active > > -Sam > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Shawn Barnhart >Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 8:10 AM >To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org >Subject: Dual or quad NIC boards? > >I'm in the market for a dual or quad NIC board compatible with 4-STABLE >(I'll do 5.x if I have to) for a router/firewall. > >Intel make a couple, are they known to be compatible? The NOS software >compatibilty for the four port model lists it as "FreeBSD (latest kernel)", >whatever that means. > >The 4-port one is my preference, although I'm not totally thrilled with the >prices I've seen for it -- nearly $500. Anyone familiar with any cheaper >versions? > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Lanny Baron Proud to be 100% FreeBSD http://www.FreeBSDsystems.COM North American Toll Free: 1.877.963.1900 European Toll Free http://www.freebsdsystems.com/toll_fr.html =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 26 13:11:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6723D16A4CE for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:11:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.tsgincorporated.com (ns2.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152CC43D66 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:11:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by mail2.tsgincorporated.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) id i2QLBce8083807 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:11:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from micheal (micheal.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.77]) i2QLBbSS083795 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:11:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Message-ID: <0b2d01c41377$04bfef60$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> From: "Micheal Patterson" To: References: <20040326183405.GD34158@web.ca> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:09:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12 Subject: Re: Motherboard w/ ECC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:11:39 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Ellis" To: Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 12:34 PM Subject: Motherboard w/ ECC? > How important is ECC ram for a FreeBSD server? We've gone with Asus > motherboards in the past, but most new ones don't support ECC... > > If ECC is important, any recommendations for a motherboard that supports > AMD Athlon + ECC? > > Thanks. > > - Rob I've only got 2 freebsd servers running with ECC ram. Everything else, is non ECC. The two that are, are dual 2400+ MP chip mainboards of the Tyan Tiger MPX (S2466) variety and are working well. These boards specifically state that they'll run non ECC ram up to 2gb on slots 1 & 2, but to get higher than 2gb, you'll need ECC with a max of 4gb total. So far, they've been running quite well. One hasn't had any issues since it was installed over 90 days ago and running strong. Our NFS server is the same at 120days since install and no reboots or issues. This just my opinion so please be aware that your mileage may vary. -- Micheal Patterson TSG Network Administration 405-917-0600 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 26 13:57:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA9216A4CE for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:57:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgate4.cinetic.de (mailgate4.cinetic.de [217.72.192.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA3943D55 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:57:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Hafenbrack@web.de) Received: from smtp.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) ESMTP id i2QLvWs32614 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:57:32 +0100 Received: from p5084277c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([80.132.39.124] helo=web.de) by smtp.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (WEB.DE 4.101 #82) id 1B6zJ4-0001tQ-00 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:56:02 +0100 Message-ID: <4064A6BA.6020203@web.de> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:55:06 +0100 From: Gerd Klaus Hafenbrack User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de-de, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <20040326183405.GD34158@web.ca> <0b2d01c41377$04bfef60$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> In-Reply-To: <0b2d01c41377$04bfef60$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: hafenbrack@web.de Subject: Re: Motherboard w/ ECC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:57:35 -0000 Micheal Patterson wrote: > ... Tiger MPX (S2466) variety and are working well. These boards specifically > state that they'll run non ECC ram up to 2gb on slots 1 & 2, but to get > higher than 2gb, you'll need ECC with a max of 4gb total. It is running here with 1 GB (2 * 512 MB modules) with ECC. If you want to use more than 2 memory slots you need _registered_ modules in all slots. I also use a dual Athlon MP2200+ MSI K7D Master with the same memory configuration succesfully. Gerd Hafenbrack From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 26 16:21:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90CD16A4CE for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:21:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from santiago.pacific.net.sg (santiago.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE26743D31 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:21:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 10850 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2004 00:21:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell6.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.212) by santiago with SMTP; 27 Mar 2004 00:21:52 -0000 Received: from pacific.net.sg ([210.24.202.50]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20040327002152.IZSS9972.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@pacific.net.sg>; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 08:21:52 +0800 Message-ID: <4064C7A7.7050200@pacific.net.sg> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 08:15:35 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031208 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de-de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Ellis References: <20040326183405.GD34158@web.ca> In-Reply-To: <20040326183405.GD34158@web.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Motherboard w/ ECC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 00:21:56 -0000 Hi, Rob Ellis wrote: >How important is ECC ram for a FreeBSD server? We've gone with Asus > > I think, it has nothing to do with FreeBSD. ECC just makes you sleep better. >motherboards in the past, but most new ones don't support ECC... > >If ECC is important, any recommendations for a motherboard that supports >AMD Athlon + ECC? > > I suggest always to use ECC as an additional level of safety. We use Tyan motherboards out of the Thunder series. They have all you need for a server on board. There is the Tiger series if you do not need all the features of the Thunders. We have had once in a while problems with newly released boards and their BIOS'. An update from Tyan's site helped always. Erich. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 26 18:59:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7DC16A4CE for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ruth.realtime.net (ruth.realtime.net [205.238.132.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7120E43D2F for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:59:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brucegb@realtime.net) Received: from tigerfish2.my.domain (unverified [66.68.11.129]) V9.2) with ESMTP id 26737921 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:59:09 -0600 Received: from tigerfish2.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tigerfish2.my.domain (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i2R2x7VW028081 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:59:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from brucegb@tigerfish2.my.domain) Received: (from brucegb@localhost) by tigerfish2.my.domain (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i2R2x7eY028080 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:59:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from brucegb) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:59:07 -0600 From: Bruce Burden To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040327025907.GI358@tigerfish2.my.domain> References: <20040326183405.GD34158@web.ca> <0b2d01c41377$04bfef60$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0b2d01c41377$04bfef60$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com Subject: Re: Motherboard w/ ECC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 02:59:10 -0000 On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 03:09:13PM -0600, Micheal Patterson wrote: > > > If ECC is important, any recommendations for a motherboard that supports > > AMD Athlon + ECC? > > I've only got 2 freebsd servers running with ECC ram. Everything else, is > non ECC. The two that are, are dual 2400+ MP chip mainboards of the Tyan > Tiger MPX (S2466) variety and are working well. > I have a Tyan Tiger MPX 2466-4M that has been doing very well for over a year now. I use it in a desktop, but it still runs 24 hours/day, 7 days/week. The uptime has been around 90 days, before I twiddle the HW, update the software or a prolonged power outage gets to it. I have been pleased with the board, and I am using the ECC memory in it (2GB). Bruce -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I like bad!" Bruce Burden Austin, TX. - Thuganlitha The Power and the Prophet Robert Don Hughes From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 26 19:56:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DB116A4CE for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 19:56:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ingmedia.com (mail.ingmedia.com [205.207.132.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D9F843D39 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 19:56:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wing@qenesis.com) Received: (qmail 71892 invoked by uid 0); 27 Mar 2004 03:56:50 -0000 Received: from cpe00045adc775e-cm000039de825e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (HELO desktop) (wing@artson.ca@63.138.197.17) by mail.ingmedia.com with SMTP; 27 Mar 2004 03:56:50 -0000 From: "Bill Ing" To: Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:56:38 -0500 Message-ID: <000401c413af$88f13450$6401a8c0@desktop> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20040326200042.797D016A4DF@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Getting around device atapicam X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 03:56:55 -0000 Hello, I'm looking for some advice. With my current setup of FreeBSD 5.1, I cannot add device ATAPICAM to the kernel without a fatal kernel trap 12 on boot up. It's a problem that has to do with the binary driver provided by Highpoint for their RocketRaid 1640. My ultimate goal is to be able to burn DVD-R media, backing up parts of my system to DVD-R using growisofs and the DVD Tools. I'm using a Pioneer DVR-107 IDE ATAPI drive and I'm thinking of a workaround where I put the drive into one of those USB2/firewire adapter boxes that they sell for putting a HDD into and perhaps the USB or Firewire interface would allow me to get around the need for using ATAPICAM to do the IDE - SCSI emmulation. But before I drop any money on this idea, I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this. Thanks in advance, Bill Ing From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 26 20:23:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F4116A4CE for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:23:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.covadmail.net (mx07.covadmail.net [63.65.120.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A16B943D1D for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:23:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from strick@covad.net) Received: (covad.net 27807 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2004 04:22:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mist.nodomain) (strick@covad.net@67.101.98.108) by sun-qmail12 with SMTP; 27 Mar 2004 04:22:59 -0000 Received: from mist.nodomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mist.nodomain (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i2R4N14t000475; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:23:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@mist.nodomain) Received: (from dan@localhost) by mist.nodomain (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i2R4N1Cb000474; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:23:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:23:01 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Strick Message-Id: <200403270423.i2R4N1Cb000474@mist.nodomain> To: rob@web.ca cc: dan@mist.nodomain cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Motherboard w/ ECC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 04:23:05 -0000 On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:34:06 -0500, Rob Ellis wrote: >> > How important is ECC ram for a FreeBSD server? We've gone with Asus > motherboards in the past, but most new ones don't support ECC... > > If ECC is important, any recommendations for a motherboard that supports > AMD Athlon + ECC? >> If a system handles data that you really don't want corrupted, then some sort of memory error detection is very important. You really need to know if something in your system is damaging your data so that you can fix it. Unless you have extreme uptime requirements, the difference between parity and ECC is less important, but simple parity support is less common these days so your only option is ECC. I highly recommend it. When the integrity of *my* data is at stake, I pretty much insist on it. I am only familiar with recent single processor P4 motherboards using either the Intel 865 or 875 support chipsets. The 875 supports ECC. The 865 does not. I use a motherboard with the 875 chipset and 1 GB of ECC memory. It seems to work just fine, but experience with just one system for only several months may not count for much. I don't know much about other brands of chipsets or about multiprocessor chipsets or about Athlon processors. Dan Strick strick@covad.net From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 27 12:51:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69AF16A4CE for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:51:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.hosp.misyshealthcare.com (liberty.hosp.misyshealthcare.com [149.138.10.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8147643D46 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:51:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from terry@liberty.hosp.misyshealthcare.com) Received: from liberty.hosp.misyshealthcare.com (localhost.hosp.misyshealthcare.com [127.0.0.1])i2RKoqVO015516 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 13:50:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from terry@liberty.hosp.misyshealthcare.com) Received: (from terry@localhost)i2RKopji015515 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 13:50:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from terry) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 13:50:51 -0700 (MST) From: "Terry R. Friedrichsen" Message-Id: <200403272050.i2RKopji015515@liberty.hosp.misyshealthcare.com> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: re: Motherboard w/ ECC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: terry@uplift.sunquest.com List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 20:51:23 -0000 > How important is ECC ram for a FreeBSD server? My attitude is that ECC is only as important as your data, regardless of what kind of machine you're running on. > We've gone with Asus > motherboards in the past, but most new ones don't support ECC... The only Asus Athlon motherboard I'm aware of that actually *uses* ECC is the A7M266-D dual-processor board with the AMD 760MPX chipset. I'd be happy to hear of others. There are other motherboards (particularly VIA chipset boards) that "support" ECC by ignoring the ECC bits. So support translates into "our board will run anyway, even if you put ECC memory in it". > If ECC is important, any recommendations for a motherboard that supports > AMD Athlon + ECC? I'm using the above-mentioned ASUS board quite successfully. All of the Athlon 64 CPUs, of course, support ECC because the memory con- troller is built into the processor chip. So that's a good way to go, if you don't mind spending more for the processor. My current favorite is the Asus K8V-Deluxe. However, you still have to watch out for motherboards that don't carry the ECC information to the processor. For example, the Shuttle SN85G4 manages not to support ECC despite having an A64 CPU ... Terry R. Friedrichsen terry@uplift.sunquest.com