From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 25 06:16:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173A116A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 06:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freedom.hotlz.com (freedom.hotlz.com [209.20.218.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C510943D2D for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 06:16:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dugger@freedom.hotlz.com) Received: (from dugger@localhost) by freedom.hotlz.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id i3PDGMm24598 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 06:16:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dugger) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 06:16:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Dugger Message-Id: <200404251316.i3PDGMm24598@freedom.hotlz.com> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Zoom/Modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 13:16:23 -0000 I recently got a Zoom/Modem V.92 PC Card for my Laptop (Sony PCG-F580), the build in one doesn't work with FreeBSD. I'm running 4.9 Rel. The Kernel detects it fine however X locks up. Has anyone got one of these to work and how? Thx... Don 8) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 25 08:55:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C7C16A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 08:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41102.mail.yahoo.com (web41102.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3758043D49 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 08:55:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmkatcher@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040425155541.92233.qmail@web41102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.18.54.216] by web41102.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 08:55:41 PDT Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 08:55:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffrey Katcher To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Any Interest in Load-Adaptive Power Daemon? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 15:55:41 -0000 I've been using an IBM T40 that I love, but it has a very short life on batteries: something like 2:30, which is half of my previous Dell. I'm presuming that this is a direct result of always running at max clock 1.6Ghz. I've been doing a little better lately adjusting clock speed manually, but I'm thinking of writing a daemon that will do the job automatically. It shouldn't take more than a day or so, but: 1) Does something like this already exist on FreeBSD? 2) Anyone else want it? I'd like to donate it for FreeBSD inclusion if it works well and any core person is interested. Thanks in advance, Jeff Katcher __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 25 09:25:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFEB16A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pilgrim.local.hotlz.com (freedom.hotlz.com [209.20.218.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444A143D5A for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:25:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dugger@hotlz.com) Received: from hotlz.com (henry.local.hotlz.com [172.27.240.45]) i3ON9lCn085262 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:09:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dugger@hotlz.com) Message-ID: <408AF3BC.30807@hotlz.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:09:48 -0700 From: Don Dugger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.5.1) Gecko/20031120 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: PC Card modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:25:24 -0000 I recently got a Zoom/Modem V.92 PC Card for my Laptop (Sony PCG-F580), the build in one doesn't work with FreeBSD. I'm running 4.9 Rel. The Kernel detects it fine however X locks up. Has anyone got one of these to work and how? Thx... Don 8) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 25 09:25:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F1216A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pilgrim.local.hotlz.com (freedom.hotlz.com [209.20.218.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17CD43D5A for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:25:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dugger@hotlz.com) Received: from hotlz.com (henry.local.hotlz.com [172.27.240.45]) i3OFijCn083463 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 08:44:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dugger@hotlz.com) Message-ID: <408A8B6D.9040908@hotlz.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 08:44:45 -0700 From: Don Dugger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.5.1) Gecko/20031120 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Zoom/Modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:25:25 -0000 I recently got a Zoom/Modem V.92 PC Card for my Laptop (Sony PCG-F580), the build in one doesn't work with FreeBSD. I'm running 4.9 Rel. The Kernel detects it fine however X locks up. Has anyone got one of these to work and how? Thx... Don 8) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 25 09:31:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB0916A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E19943D2F for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:31:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC133D32 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 12:31:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: mobile@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 12:31:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <408BAF91.23469.295CA565@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: signal strength - what's reasonable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:31:15 -0000 Hi, I'm setting up a WAP at home and I'm learning about signal strength. At present, the WAP is in the basement, near the ceiling. Using wicontrol -L, I've been looking at the line titled "Coms quality/signal/noise". As base measurement, directly under the WAP, I get "49 103 54". The various locations in the house have values like this: 30 84 10 A 21 75 54 B - next door to WAP 33 87 54 C - one flight up (directly above WAP) 27 81 54 D - one flight up (directly above WAP) 16 70 54 E - one flight up (at opposite end of house) 6 60 54 F - one flight up (at opposite end of house) 20 74 54 G - two flights up (directly above WAP) Are these expected values? Ping times remain about 4.75ms for all locations. Comments please. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 25 09:34:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8170016A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB7143D48 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:34:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54773D32; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 12:34:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: Jeffrey Katcher Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 12:34:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <408BB05E.11147.295FC7AE@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20040425155541.92233.qmail@web41102.mail.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any Interest in Load-Adaptive Power Daemon? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:34:39 -0000 On 25 Apr 2004 at 8:55, Jeffrey Katcher wrote: > 2) Anyone else want it? I get about 2.5 hours on my ThinkPad T22. If I could stretch that to 5 hours, I'd be happy as. > I'd like to donate it for FreeBSD inclusion if it > works well and any core person is interested. If you get it started, and it works, then others will certainly help to improve it. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 25 10:11:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4BF016A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 10:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.teardrop.org (silver.teardrop.org [66.150.202.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967DE43D3F for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 10:11:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from snow@teardrop.org) Received: by silver.teardrop.org (Postfix, from userid 100) id B459E26C0F; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 13:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 13:11:42 -0400 From: James Snow To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040425171142.GA23825@teardrop.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: XFree86 & ACPI don't like each other? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 17:11:44 -0000 Hello list, I've recently joined the freebsd-mobile world with 5.2.1 on an IBM ThinkPad T22. I'm still settling into it and getting used to the quirks of FreeBSD on a laptop. On the whole, things are working delightfully. My Netgear WG511T works perfectly under if_ath, and sound came up painlessly with snd_pcm and snd_csa. On board Ethernet is fxp and workes perfectly; used it for the FTP install. On the other hand, X and ACPI don't seem to get along very well. If I boot with ACPI, X will sometimes hang when starting or stopping. Doesn't appear to be very consistent or predictable, but I can't get through more than 1 clean start and stop of X without it locking the machine up solid. Have to pull the battery and AC power to reset it. It's definitely an ACPI interaction because if I boot without ACPI I can start and stop X all day without issue. It's not that I go in and out of X often, but the occassional hang on start and the fairly reliable hang at exit have me fsck'ing the drive a bit more often than I'd like. I know ACPI is still a work in progress, but I was wondering if any other T-series ThinkPad users have seen something like this? -Snow From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 25 10:47:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF5916A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 10:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moya.lambermont.dyndns.org (e165253.upc-e.chello.nl [213.93.165.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F402643D48 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 10:47:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hans@lambermont.dyndns.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moya.lambermont.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE3736402; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 19:47:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from moya.lambermont.dyndns.org ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 49183-07; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 19:47:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: by moya.lambermont.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 69E8F36401; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 19:47:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 19:47:23 +0200 To: James Snow Message-ID: <20040425174723.GH14105@moya.lambermont.dyndns.org> References: <20040425171142.GA23825@teardrop.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040425171142.GA23825@teardrop.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i From: hans@lambermont.dyndns.org (Hans Lambermont) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616.p5 at lambermont.dyndns.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86 & ACPI don't like each other? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 17:47:45 -0000 James Snow wrote: > I've recently joined the freebsd-mobile world with 5.2.1 on > an IBM ThinkPad T22. ... > On the other hand, X and ACPI don't seem to get along very > well. If I boot with ACPI, X will sometimes hang when > starting or stopping. Doesn't appear to be very consistent > or predictable, but I can't get through more than 1 clean > start and stop of X without it locking the machine up solid. ... > if any other T-series ThinkPad users have seen something > like this? Not on my T30, I've been using -current on it with ACPI and X. Maybe there's a hint in /var/log/XFree86.0.log ? Compare it with a non-ACPI run. Hans -- http://lambermont.webhop.org/ () ASCII-ribbon campaign against vCards, /\ HTML-mail and proprietary formats. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 25 11:13:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AE016A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 11:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dd2626.kasserver.com (dd2626.kasserver.com [81.209.184.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BEC43D1F for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 11:13:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from outi@outi.echsi.de) Received: from outi.echsi.de (pD958E1D6.dip.t-dialin.net [217.88.225.214]) by dd2626.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5357B31950; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:13:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <408BFF7A.1030408@outi.echsi.de> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:12:10 +0200 From: Patrick Hurrelmann User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040409) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeffrey Katcher References: <20040425155541.92233.qmail@web41102.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20040425155541.92233.qmail@web41102.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any Interest in Load-Adaptive Power Daemon? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 18:13:20 -0000 Jeffrey Katcher wrote: > I've been using an IBM T40 that I love, but it has a very short life on > batteries: > something like 2:30, which is half of my previous Dell. I'm presuming that > this > is a direct result of always running at max clock 1.6Ghz. I've been doing a > little better lately adjusting clock speed manually, but I'm thinking of > writing > a daemon that will do the job automatically. It shouldn't take more than a day > or > so, but: > 1) Does something like this already exist on FreeBSD? > 2) Anyone else want it? I'd like to donate it for FreeBSD inclusion if it > works well and any core person is interested. > > Thanks in advance, > > Jeff Katcher that would be really great. i've read about something like that for linux but due to my missing skills regarding *nix i never had a closer look. as i can not provide you with programming skills, i would be interested in testing and maybe translating ;) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 25 14:09:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78CF16A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 14:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.roe.ch (line-zh-102-185.adsl.econophone.ch [212.53.102.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364D643D2D for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 14:09:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daniel@roe.ch) Received: from roe by dragon.roe.ch with LOCAL id 1BHqrs-0007UU-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:08:52 +0200 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:08:52 +0200 From: Daniel Roethlisberger To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040425210852.GJ22912@dragon.roe.ch> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20040425171142.GA23825@teardrop.org> <20040425174723.GH14105@moya.lambermont.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040425174723.GH14105@moya.lambermont.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: XFree86 & ACPI don't like each other? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 21:09:05 -0000 --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hans Lambermont [2004-04-25/19:47]: > James Snow wrote: > > On the other hand, X and ACPI don't seem to get along very well. If > > I boot with ACPI, X will sometimes hang when starting or stopping. > > Doesn't appear to be very consistent or predictable, but I can't get > > through more than 1 clean start and stop of X without it locking the > > machine up solid. I have the same problem. Running a non-SMP kernel fixes the problem for me without having to disable ACPI. Also see this open PR: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dmisc/60512 Cheers, Dan --=20 Daniel Roethlisberger GnuPG key ID 0x804A06B1 (DSA/ElGamal) --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAjCjkOXQOmIBKBrERAha4AJ973y0GSkFJJtJIj0SJiNbUUB9J2gCgiNzQ NmPvEoMnTqZ3So5AD2TIHjY= =r2fA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 25 20:34:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651B416A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.teardrop.org (silver.teardrop.org [66.150.202.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CBE43D49 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:34:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from snow@teardrop.org) Received: by silver.teardrop.org (Postfix, from userid 100) id 387D626C0F; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:34:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:34:49 -0400 From: James Snow To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040426033448.GA26176@teardrop.org> References: <20040425171142.GA23825@teardrop.org> <20040425174723.GH14105@moya.lambermont.dyndns.org> <20040425210852.GJ22912@dragon.roe.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040425210852.GJ22912@dragon.roe.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: XFree86 & ACPI don't like each other? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 03:34:50 -0000 On Sun, Apr 25, 2004 at 11:08:52PM +0200, Daniel Roethlisberger wrote: > > I have the same problem. Running a non-SMP kernel fixes the problem for > me without having to disable ACPI. Also see this open PR: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=misc/60512 That did the trick. Thanks very much. -Snow From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 25 18:04:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DD616A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 18:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp813.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp813.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AAA5343DAB for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 17:42:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sakoman@sbcglobal.net) Received: from unknown (HELO your6bvpxyztoq) (sakoman@sbcglobal.net@66.122.183.7 with login) by smtp813.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Apr 2004 00:42:12 -0000 Message-ID: <000601c42b26$ec643bc0$2500a8c0@your6bvpxyztoq> From: "betyawishyanew" To: Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 17:39:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 05:04:55 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Compaq 2170US laptops... 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John Thurman Custom Weapons Inc. =20 "Amendment II" =20 "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free = State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall NOT be infringed." =20 Windows Messenger :sakoman@sbcglobal.net to add me =20 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 05:46:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF4F16A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 05:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4D543D39 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 05:46:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830093D32 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:46:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:46:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <408CCC5C.10100.2DB5329B@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: suspend/resume on T22 running 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 12:46:22 -0000 Hi, I've recently starting using suspend/resume on my ThinkPad T22. I've found that running "acpiconf -s S3" works well. After finding that my mouse did not function after resume, I added 'hints.psm.0.flags="0x2000"' to /boot/device/hints. The mouse now functions after resume. I also added this to /etc/sysctl.conf # do not sleep when the lid is closed hw.acpi.lid_switch_state=S0 # do not power up again when powered off hw.acpi.disable_on_poweroff=0 My next goal is to find a way to easily restore wi0 and the default route after resume. Issuing the following commands after resume fixes networking: sh /etc/start_if.wi0 # restores SSID etc kill -TERM `cat /var/run/dhclient.pid` # kill existing dhclient dhclient wi0 Any suggestion? cheers -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 06:25:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DFA16A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 06:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.teardrop.org (silver.teardrop.org [66.150.202.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980B943D58 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 06:25:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from snow@teardrop.org) Received: by silver.teardrop.org (Postfix, from userid 100) id 02ABF26C11; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:25:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:25:00 -0400 From: James Snow To: Dan Langille Message-ID: <20040426132500.GA29068@teardrop.org> References: <408CCC5C.10100.2DB5329B@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <408CCC5C.10100.2DB5329B@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suspend/resume on T22 running 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:25:01 -0000 On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 08:46:20AM -0400, Dan Langille wrote: > > I've recently starting using suspend/resume on my ThinkPad > T22. I've found that running "acpiconf -s S3" works > well. After finding that my mouse did not function > after resume, I added 'hints.psm.0.flags="0x2000"' to > /boot/device/hints. The mouse now functions after resume. Are you using moused or an external mouse? I have X accessing the pointer at the center of the keyboard directly via /dev/psm0 on my T22 and it's always come back fine after a suspend/resume. > My next goal is to find a way to easily restore wi0 and > the default route after resume. I'd be interested to see where you get with this. My ath0 goes away on suspend and won't come back until the card is removed and reinserted. -Snow From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 07:19:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10ED116A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 07:19:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B655F43D2D for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 07:19:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDAF53D32; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:19:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: James Snow Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:19:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <408CE243.19034.2E0AC3D1@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20040426132500.GA29068@teardrop.org> References: <408CCC5C.10100.2DB5329B@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suspend/resume on T22 running 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:19:49 -0000 On 26 Apr 2004 at 9:25, James Snow wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 08:46:20AM -0400, Dan Langille wrote: > > > > I've recently starting using suspend/resume on my ThinkPad > > T22. I've found that running "acpiconf -s S3" works > > well. After finding that my mouse did not function > > after resume, I added 'hints.psm.0.flags="0x2000"' to > > /boot/device/hints. The mouse now functions after resume. > > Are you using moused or an external mouse? I have X > accessing the pointer at the center of the keyboard directly > via /dev/psm0 on my T22 and it's always come back fine after > a suspend/resume. I am using moused: /usr/sbin/moused -3 -p /dev/psm0 -t auto > > My next goal is to find a way to easily restore wi0 and > > the default route after resume. > > I'd be interested to see where you get with this. My ath0 > goes away on suspend and won't come back until the card is > removed and reinserted. I suspect that writing a little script will be what's needed. I think what I really want to get working is hibernate. My understanding is suspend just puts you to sleep: battery power is still used. Hibernation actually saves stuff to disk and restores from that later. The advantage to hibernation is that it does not use battery power. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 15:38:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735A916A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41109.mail.yahoo.com (web41109.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 260AD43D45 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:38:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmkatcher@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040426223827.38541.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.18.54.216] by web41109.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:38:26 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:38:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffrey Katcher To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Any Interest in Load-Adaptive Power Daemon? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 22:38:27 -0000 I have something passable running now, though it's actually a hacked version of wmcpuload (now wmcpuclock) so I can watch status and history. My question is: Does it actually makes any difference in power consumption? I raise and lower the clock speed (via sysctl ACPI MIB stuff) according to use. The system does in fact feel correspondingly faster or slower. However, once the fan comes on, it never goes off again and I can't seem to override this via sysctl. Is this just T40 ACPI BIOS bogosity (running 2.02 I think)? I just seems like fan power consumption would be the big hog on an otherwise idle system. Jeff Katcher __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 17:06:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3837E16A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (gilmore.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.33.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2092643D3F for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:06:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (IDENT:RZLj6UghcUm0HUcm5rPnfI3+K4rOs+Rx@localhost.nas.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) i3R06eJ0006100; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:06:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: James Snow From: Dave Tweten Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:06:40 -0700 Message-ID: <6099.1083024400@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Sender: tweten@nas.nasa.gov cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86 & ACPI don't like each other? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David.E.Tweten@nasa.gov List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 00:06:49 -0000 snow@teardrop.org said: >I've recently joined the freebsd-mobile world with 5.2.1 on an IBM >ThinkPad T22. I use a T23, and my FreeBSD is 4.x, recent STABLE. >.. X and ACPI don't seem to get along very well. If I boot with ACPI, X >will sometimes hang when starting or stopping. Doesn't appear to be very >consistent or predictable, but I can't get through more than 1 clean start >and stop of X without it locking the machine up solid. >... I was wondering if any other T-series ThinkPad users have seen >something like this? That's one reason why I haven't switched to FreeBSD 5 yet. Under STABLE, the only XFree86 vs. power management problem comes with hibernation. When my T23 wakes up after hibernation, XFree86 is frozen. I have to switch to an ASCII console (ctrl-alt-f1) and back to X (alt-f12) to get it to limber up. If the hibernation is manual rather than automatic, I can transition to ASCII console first before hibernating, and there is no wake-up freeze, but automatic because of flat battery is the usual reason to hibernate. -- M/S 258-5 |1024-bit PGP fingerprint:|tweten@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center | 41 B0 89 0A 8F 94 6C 59| (650) 604-4416 Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000| 7C 80 10 20 25 C7 2F E6|FAX: (650) 604-4377 Not an official NASA position. You can't even be certain who sent this! From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 17:11:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0E416A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (gilmore.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.33.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F2943D1F for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:11:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (IDENT:mzqNvHoK3yJEJoBCOycgd0ohQH295aRq@localhost.nas.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) i3R0B4BU006121; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Dan Langille" From: Dave Tweten Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:11:04 -0700 Message-ID: <6120.1083024664@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Sender: tweten@nas.nasa.gov cc: James Snow cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suspend/resume on T22 running 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David.E.Tweten@nasa.gov List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 00:11:12 -0000 dan@langille.org said: >I think what I really want to get working is hibernate. Start by creating a hibernation partition on your ThinkPad. See http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/MIGR-4PESMK.html -- M/S 258-5 |1024-bit PGP fingerprint:|tweten@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center | 41 B0 89 0A 8F 94 6C 59| (650) 604-4416 Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000| 7C 80 10 20 25 C7 2F E6|FAX: (650) 604-4377 Not an official NASA position. You can't even be certain who sent this! From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 18:16:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8EB16A4CE; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from starling.mail.pas.earthlink.net (starling.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A6B43D45; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:16:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from welchsm@earthlink.net) Received: from c-24-118-221-205.mn.client2.attbi.com ([24.118.221.205] helo=NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net) by starling.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 3.36 #4) id 1BIHDK-0002wm-00; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:16:47 -0700 Received: from NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i3R1GT5R002837; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:16:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from welchsm@localhost.welchsmnet.net) Received: (from welchsm@localhost)i3R1GTmA002836; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:16:29 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from welchsm) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:16:29 -0500 From: Sean Welch To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040427011629.GA2789@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-ELNK-Trace: 15d86f98c8ef8acad780f4a490ca69564776905774d2ac4bddf2a90f75da8f45908a2d582431bccb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: More on sound issues with 5.2.1-RELEASE on Dell I8000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 01:16:50 -0000 I apologize in advance for cross-posting; the nature of this issue appears to be relevant to both lists. I had posted earlier to the multimedia list about this problem. In short, I have discovered that with my batteries installed playing any sounds through pcm (with the exception of audio cds) is plagued by blurs or blips lasting fractions of a second. Without batteries installed this does not occur, and the symptoms are unrelated to AC line status. The problem isn't there under either 5.2-RELEASE or 4.9-RELEASE. I've been playing around a bit with FreeSBIE (nice!) and a lark popped it into my Dell only to find that the sound issue wasn't there! Earlier I had already tried all sorts of mods to the sound code and also reverted to a GENERIC kernel but was unable to make the problem go away. This time I left everthing as I already had it (stock sound code and custom kernel) and tried to play my test mp3 from the command line using amp outside of X (gdm running, but logged in under a vt) and there were no problems. Then I started X on :1 (gdm had :0) running just twm and neither amp nor xmms had a problem. I added gkrellm and still no problem. I started up esd and still had no issues. At this point, convinced it was something running under my gnome session, I logged from gdm and immediately saw the sound problem again. Taking a stab in the dark I shut down the battery status applet and the problem disappeared! Curious, I tried switching to the apm component in gkrellm for battery status and the problem returned. I found the same issue with xbattbar as well. Evidently the issue is with the apm emulation used to give battery status when using acpi; it looks as though any program that polls this code causes the sound blurs/blips. A couple of wrinkles -- the blurs/blips return when the batteries are all topped up and the AC line is connected. I can trigger a blur/blip by running the apm command, though it doesn't happen absolutely every time I run it. Specifically, it doesn't happen every time when I run apm with short intervals between iterations. Is there some sort of cache involved with this? So what's the next step? Sean From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 18:32:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675AC16A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.teardrop.org (silver.teardrop.org [66.150.202.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404CC43D45 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:32:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from snow@teardrop.org) Received: by silver.teardrop.org (Postfix, from userid 100) id 843B226C10; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:32:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:32:31 -0400 From: James Snow To: David.E.Tweten@nasa.gov Message-ID: <20040427013231.GA32666@teardrop.org> References: <6120.1083024664@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6120.1083024664@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suspend/resume on T22 running 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 01:32:32 -0000 On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 05:11:04PM -0700, Dave Tweten wrote: > > Start by creating a hibernation partition on your ThinkPad. See > > http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/MIGR-4PESMK.html Is this needed even if hw.acpi.s4bios=0? I distinctly remember reading somewhere that laptop hibernation required some kind of Windows partition in order to work, but I was unclear what relationship that had to the value of hw.acpi.s4bios. -Snow From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 18:40:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0E916A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3A543D2F for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:40:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from xeon (xeon.unixathome.org [192.168.0.18]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9538F3D32; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:40:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Langille X-X-Sender: dan@xeon.unixathome.org To: David.E.Tweten@nasa.gov In-Reply-To: <6099.1083024400@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <20040426213909.D39020@xeon.unixathome.org> References: <6099.1083024400@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: James Snow cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86 & ACPI don't like each other? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 01:40:29 -0000 On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, Dave Tweten wrote: > snow@teardrop.org said: > >I've recently joined the freebsd-mobile world with 5.2.1 on an IBM > >ThinkPad T22. I've been on 5.2.1 with my T22 for about 2 months. > I use a T23, and my FreeBSD is 4.x, recent STABLE. > > >.. X and ACPI don't seem to get along very well. If I boot with ACPI, X > >will sometimes hang when starting or stopping. Doesn't appear to be very > >consistent or predictable, but I can't get through more than 1 clean start > >and stop of X without it locking the machine up solid. > > >... I was wondering if any other T-series ThinkPad users have seen > >something like this? See my post today about my ACPI experiences. Not any serious problems yet. > Under STABLE, the only XFree86 vs. power management problem comes with > hibernation. When my T23 wakes up after hibernation, XFree86 is frozen. > I have to switch to an ASCII console (ctrl-alt-f1) and back to X (alt-f12) > to get it to limber up. If the hibernation is manual rather than > automatic, I can transition to ASCII console first before hibernating, and > there is no wake-up freeze, but automatic because of flat battery is the > usual reason to hibernate. I was hoping to get hibernation working here... -- Dan Langille - BSDCan: http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 18:43:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F79216A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1314743D49 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:43:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from xeon (xeon.unixathome.org [192.168.0.18]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC553D32; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:43:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:43:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Langille X-X-Sender: dan@xeon.unixathome.org To: David.E.Tweten@nasa.gov In-Reply-To: <6120.1083024664@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <20040426214159.Q39020@xeon.unixathome.org> References: <6120.1083024664@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: James Snow cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suspend/resume on T22 running 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 01:43:34 -0000 On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, Dave Tweten wrote: > dan@langille.org said: > >I think what I really want to get working is hibernate. > > Start by creating a hibernation partition on your ThinkPad. See > > http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/MIGR-4PESMK.html I've been to that URL before. I was/am concerned that FreeBSD is not a supported OS. The disk in question has both Windows 98 (rarely used) and FreeBSD 5.2.1. Your recommendation is to proceed with the utility at that URL? -- Dan Langille - BSDCan: http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 18:47:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6428316A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (gilmore.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.33.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471A643D5C for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:47:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (IDENT:1sNhs9ORoqTD4G+95pW9Si2Di/gHwwlo@localhost.nas.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) i3R1lTvA000382; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:47:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: James Snow From: Dave Tweten Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:47:28 -0700 Message-ID: <381.1083030448@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Sender: tweten@nas.nasa.gov cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suspend/resume on T22 running 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David.E.Tweten@nasa.gov List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 01:47:29 -0000 Initially quoting me, snow@teardrop.org said: >>Start by creating a hibernation partition on your ThinkPad. See >> http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/MIGR-4PESMK.html >Is this needed even if hw.acpi.s4bios=0? >I distinctly remember reading somewhere that laptop hibernation required >some kind of Windows partition in order to work, but I was unclear what >relationship that had to the value of hw.acpi.s4bios. This partition (oops, slice) is known only to the BIOS. The way hibernation works under STABLE is that the BIOS tells FreeBSD to go to sleep, and then the BIOS copies a memory image to the slice it recognizes as being good for hibernation data and turns the power off. Later, when the BIOS is in control during power-up, it recognizes hibernation status and copies the hibernation slice into memory before transferring control to it. I suppose FreeBSD 5 could duplicate the BIOS's hibernation support. Windows 2000 did that. Seems wasteful, but then so does Win2k. I can't tell you for sure, having set up hibernation for my T23 on STABLE and not on version 5. -- M/S 258-5 |1024-bit PGP fingerprint:|tweten@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center | 41 B0 89 0A 8F 94 6C 59| (650) 604-4416 Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000| 7C 80 10 20 25 C7 2F E6|FAX: (650) 604-4377 Not an official NASA position. You can't even be certain who sent this! From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 19:15:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796EA16A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 19:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (gilmore.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.33.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63FEA43D41 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 19:15:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (IDENT:YrWtM3EmVkEODzy+ofR/GqLaCHNzMe4P@localhost.nas.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) i3R2FRuq000550; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 19:15:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Dan Langille From: Dave Tweten Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 19:15:27 -0700 Message-ID: <549.1083032127@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Sender: tweten@nas.nasa.gov cc: James Snow cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suspend/resume on T22 running 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David.E.Tweten@nasa.gov List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 02:15:27 -0000 dan@langille.org said: >I was/am concerned that FreeBSD is not a supported OS. That doesn't matter, because hibernation to the slice created by the floppy stand-alone program at http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/MIGR-4PESMK.html is a BIOS function, not an OS function. The only OS aspect is that the BIOS tells the OS to go to sleep before copying everything to disk and turning the power off. >The disk in question has both Windows 98 (rarely used) and FreeBSD >5.2.1. Your recommendation is to proceed with the utility at that URL? Yes, AFTER you have created enough unused space at the end of your disk for the slice and after you have made sure that the fourth location in the standard slice table is available for use. The space required will be a "little more" than the amount of real memory in your machine. I artificially expanded mine, to 2,116,800 disk blocks so if I ever throw out my 256 MB memory boardlet and install a second 512 MB boardlet, I will have enough space for a gigabyte of real memory. I should emphasize again that I have done this successfully, using STABLE and Win2k as the two systems on my T23. Version 5 mileage may vary, but this looks to me like the right place to start. -- M/S 258-5 |1024-bit PGP fingerprint:|tweten@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center | 41 B0 89 0A 8F 94 6C 59| (650) 604-4416 Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000| 7C 80 10 20 25 C7 2F E6|FAX: (650) 604-4377 Not an official NASA position. You can't even be certain who sent this! From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 21:47:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC65F16A4CF for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ip166.usw253.dsl-acs2.sea.iinet.com [209.20.253.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4CC43D53 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:47:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ran.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BIKVN-00060N-E3; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:47:37 -0700 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16525.58856.928411.986267@ran.psg.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:47:36 -0700 To: "Dan Langille" References: <408CCC5C.10100.2DB5329B@localhost> cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suspend/resume on T22 running 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 04:47:39 -0000 > # do not power up again when powered off > hw.acpi.disable_on_poweroff=0 this has stopped working for me. i get a good suspend the fist time. but if i resume and try to suspend again, it wakes up instantly. randy From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 23:55:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1845616A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub01.unibe.ch (mailhub01.unibe.ch [130.92.9.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A099B43D46 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:55:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roth@speedy.unibe.ch) Received: from localhost (scanhub02.unibe.ch [130.92.254.66]) by mailhub01.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08C325BF0A; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:55:38 +0200 (MEST) Received: from mailhub01.unibe.ch ([130.92.9.52]) by localhost (scanhub02 [130.92.254.66]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25529-02-66; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:55:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from asterix.unibe.ch (asterix.unibe.ch [130.92.64.4]) by mailhub01.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6FD525BEDF; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:34:54 +0200 (MEST) Received: from speedy.unibe.ch (speedy [130.92.64.35]) by asterix.unibe.ch (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id i3R6Ysb13647; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:34:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from roth@localhost) by speedy.unibe.ch (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.9/Submit) id i3R6YrEM019609; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:34:53 +0200 (MEST) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:34:53 +0200 From: Tobias Roth To: David.E.Tweten@nasa.gov Message-ID: <20040427063453.GA19545@speedy.unibe.ch> Mail-Followup-To: David.E.Tweten@nasa.gov, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, James Snow References: <6099.1083024400@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6099.1083024400@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-message-flag: Warning! Using Outlook is insecure and promotes virus distribution. Please use a different email client. X-Virus-checked: by University of Berne cc: James Snow cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86 & ACPI don't like each other? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 06:55:41 -0000 On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 05:06:40PM -0700, Dave Tweten wrote: > > Under STABLE, the only XFree86 vs. power management problem comes with > hibernation. When my T23 wakes up after hibernation, XFree86 is frozen. > I have to switch to an ASCII console (ctrl-alt-f1) and back to X (alt-f12) > to get it to limber up. If the hibernation is manual rather than > automatic, I can transition to ASCII console first before hibernating, and > there is no wake-up freeze, but automatic because of flat battery is the > usual reason to hibernate. you do realize that this console switch can be automated? for instance, i put vidcontrol -s 1 < /dev/ttyv0 in rc.suspend just before the logger line and vidcontrol -s 9 < /dev/ttyv0 (12 in your case) into rc.resume, also before the logger line. this workaround has been mentioned quite a few times on the list. keep in mind though that rc.suspend and rc.resume were only recently made ready for acpi, so if you are using acpi instead of apm, you might have to update to -current. for ibm thinkpads, this is generally a good idea anyway, at least if you use acpi. cheers, t. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 02:17:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B7D16A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 02:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D3343D2F for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 02:17:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from se@freebsd.org) Received: from [212.227.126.205] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BIOic-0005kc-00; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:17:34 +0200 Received: from [80.132.235.192] (helo=Gatekeeper.FreeBSD.org) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BIOic-0006Th-00; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:17:34 +0200 Received: from StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org (StefanEsser [192.168.0.10]) by Gatekeeper.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927D95F18; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:17:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 200) id DA1A12314; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:17:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:17:31 +0200 From: Stefan =?iso-8859-1?Q?E=DFer?= To: Jeffrey Katcher Message-ID: <20040427091731.GA1337@StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org> Mail-Followup-To: Stefan =?iso-8859-1?Q?E=DFer?= , Jeffrey Katcher , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20040426223827.38541.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040426223827.38541.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:fa3fae9b6ca38d745862a668565919f6 cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any Interest in Load-Adaptive Power Daemon? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:17:36 -0000 On 2004-04-26 15:38 -0700, Jeffrey Katcher wrote: > I have something passable running now, though it's actually a hacked version of > wmcpuload (now wmcpuclock) so I can watch status and history. My question is: > Does it actually makes any difference in power consumption? Does your system support reporting an estimate of the remaining battery life via some hw.acpi.cpu systcl value (sorry, can't easily check the name of the parameter on my notebook right now). I have found, that dimming the display or throttling the CPU leads to an updated estimate after about one minute of delay on my Dell D800 ... > I raise and lower the clock speed (via sysctl ACPI MIB stuff) according to use. > The system does in fact feel correspondingly faster or slower. However, once > the > fan comes on, it never goes off again and I can't seem to override this via > sysctl. Is this just T40 ACPI BIOS bogosity (running 2.02 I think)? I just > seems > like fan power consumption would be the big hog on an otherwise idle system. How about just making the patches available for testing ? Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 04:01:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE4516A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 04:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.mail.nl.demon.net (hermes.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.72.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A033E43D62 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 04:01:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jes@nl.demon.net) Received: from jes.noc.nl.demon.net ([194.159.72.196]:2782) by hermes.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BIQL9-000CxG-M6 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:01:27 +0000 Received: from jes by jes.noc.nl.demon.net with local (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1BIQL9-000NFs-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:01:27 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:01:27 +0200 From: Jim Segrave To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040427110127.GB87933@nl.demon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organisation: Demon Internet Netherlands Subject: FreeBSD 5.2, Sony VAIO PCG-305 and XFree86 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jes@nl.demon.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:01:29 -0000 I know it's an old machine, but I'd like to get X running on it. Has anyone got a working config? The graphical configure locks the machine solid. Private replies are probably better, as I doubt there are that many list readers with an interest in this -- Jim Segrave jes@nl.demon.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 06:36:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD2E16A4CF for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 06:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail4.speakeasy.net (mail4.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B41643D41 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 06:36:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 16066 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2004 13:35:39 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 27 Apr 2004 13:35:39 -0000 Received: from slimer.baldwin.cx (slimer.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.16]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3RDZbY8006942; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:35:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:21:39 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <20040425171142.GA23825@teardrop.org> <20040425174723.GH14105@moya.lambermont.dyndns.org> <20040425210852.GJ22912@dragon.roe.ch> In-Reply-To: <20040425210852.GJ22912@dragon.roe.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200404270921.39774.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on server.baldwin.cx cc: Daniel Roethlisberger Subject: Re: XFree86 & ACPI don't like each other? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:36:16 -0000 On Sunday 25 April 2004 05:08 pm, Daniel Roethlisberger wrote: > Hans Lambermont [2004-04-25/19:47]: > > James Snow wrote: > > > On the other hand, X and ACPI don't seem to get along very well. If > > > I boot with ACPI, X will sometimes hang when starting or stopping. > > > Doesn't appear to be very consistent or predictable, but I can't get > > > through more than 1 clean start and stop of X without it locking the > > > machine up solid. > > I have the same problem. Running a non-SMP kernel fixes the problem for > me without having to disable ACPI. Also see this open PR: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=misc/60512 Did you remove 'device apic' as well? -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 06:40:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB1116A4CE; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 06:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314C143D49; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 06:40:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from xeon (xeon.unixathome.org [192.168.0.18]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC213D3D; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:40:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Langille X-X-Sender: dan@xeon.unixathome.org To: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: <200404270921.39774.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <20040427093915.D6979@xeon.unixathome.org> References: <20040425171142.GA23825@teardrop.org> <20040425210852.GJ22912@dragon.roe.ch> <200404270921.39774.jhb@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Daniel Roethlisberger cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: XFree86 & ACPI don't like each other? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:40:51 -0000 On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, John Baldwin wrote: > On Sunday 25 April 2004 05:08 pm, Daniel Roethlisberger wrote: > > Hans Lambermont [2004-04-25/19:47]: > > > James Snow wrote: > > > > On the other hand, X and ACPI don't seem to get along very well. If > > > > I boot with ACPI, X will sometimes hang when starting or stopping. > > > > Doesn't appear to be very consistent or predictable, but I can't get > > > > through more than 1 clean start and stop of X without it locking the > > > > machine up solid. > > > > I have the same problem. Running a non-SMP kernel fixes the problem for > > me without having to disable ACPI. Also see this open PR: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=misc/60512 FWIW, X under 5.2.1-RELEASE would freeze on me. Creating a non-SMP kernel solved the problem for me. I'm still using ACPI but only just started using sleep/resume. -- Dan Langille - BSDCan: http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 06:42:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E2616A4CE; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 06:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3796343D31; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 06:42:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from xeon (xeon.unixathome.org [192.168.0.18]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2C53D3D; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:42:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:42:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Langille X-X-Sender: dan@xeon.unixathome.org To: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: <200404270921.39774.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <20040427094207.L6979@xeon.unixathome.org> References: <20040425171142.GA23825@teardrop.org> <20040425210852.GJ22912@dragon.roe.ch> <200404270921.39774.jhb@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Daniel Roethlisberger cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: XFree86 & ACPI don't like each other? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:42:43 -0000 Sorry, my previous message was incomplete. On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, John Baldwin wrote: > On Sunday 25 April 2004 05:08 pm, Daniel Roethlisberger wrote: > > Hans Lambermont [2004-04-25/19:47]: > > > James Snow wrote: > > > > On the other hand, X and ACPI don't seem to get along very well. If > > > > I boot with ACPI, X will sometimes hang when starting or stopping. > > > > Doesn't appear to be very consistent or predictable, but I can't get > > > > through more than 1 clean start and stop of X without it locking the > > > > machine up solid. > > > > I have the same problem. Running a non-SMP kernel fixes the problem for > > me without having to disable ACPI. Also see this open PR: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=misc/60512 > > Did you remove 'device apic' as well? FWIW, X under 5.2.1-RELEASE would freeze on me. Creating a non-SMP kernel solved the problem for me. I'm still using ACPI but only just started using sleep/resume. I did not remove apic. -- Dan Langille - BSDCan: http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 07:01:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8471816A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 07:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail4.speakeasy.net (mail4.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577C143D5A for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 07:01:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 25681 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2004 14:01:46 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 27 Apr 2004 14:01:46 -0000 Received: from slimer.baldwin.cx (slimer.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.16]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3RE1hwN007242; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:01:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: Dan Langille Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:02:02 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <20040425171142.GA23825@teardrop.org> <200404270921.39774.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20040427094207.L6979@xeon.unixathome.org> In-Reply-To: <20040427094207.L6979@xeon.unixathome.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200404271002.02680.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on server.baldwin.cx cc: Daniel Roethlisberger cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: XFree86 & ACPI don't like each other? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:01:49 -0000 On Tuesday 27 April 2004 09:42 am, Dan Langille wrote: > Sorry, my previous message was incomplete. > > On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, John Baldwin wrote: > > On Sunday 25 April 2004 05:08 pm, Daniel Roethlisberger wrote: > > > Hans Lambermont [2004-04-25/19:47]: > > > > James Snow wrote: > > > > > On the other hand, X and ACPI don't seem to get along very well. If > > > > > I boot with ACPI, X will sometimes hang when starting or stopping. > > > > > Doesn't appear to be very consistent or predictable, but I can't > > > > > get through more than 1 clean start and stop of X without it > > > > > locking the machine up solid. > > > > > > I have the same problem. Running a non-SMP kernel fixes the problem for > > > me without having to disable ACPI. Also see this open PR: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=misc/60512 > > > > Did you remove 'device apic' as well? > > FWIW, X under 5.2.1-RELEASE would freeze on me. Creating a non-SMP kernel > solved the problem for me. I'm still using ACPI but only just started > using sleep/resume. I did not remove apic. So just removing SMP, but not removing apic? What if you boot the SMP kernel with 'kern.smp.disabled=1' set from the loader? -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 07:38:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2146416A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 07:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.chereda.net (share.chereda.net [193.110.16.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1D143D69 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 07:38:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from solik@chereda.net) Received: from [10.1.0.70] (port=2917 helo=chereda.net) (auth=solik) by smtp.chereda.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Chereda.Net MTA) id 1BITj4-000JO6-Tm for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:38:24 +0300 Message-ID: <408E705C.7060104@chereda.net> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:38:20 +0300 From: Sergey Solyanik Organization: Chereda.Net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040419 X-Accept-Language: ru, uk, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org References: <20040425171142.GA23825@teardrop.org> <200404270921.39774.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20040427094207.L6979@xeon.unixathome.org> <200404271002.02680.jhb@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200404271002.02680.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-MAIL: X-SMTP-RCPT: X-SMTP-host: 10.1.0.70 X-Spam-Score: -4.8 Subject: Re: XFree86 & ACPI don't like each other? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:38:28 -0000 John Baldwin wrote: >>>Did you remove 'device apic' as well? >> >>FWIW, X under 5.2.1-RELEASE would freeze on me. Creating a non-SMP kernel >>solved the problem for me. I'm still using ACPI but only just started >>using sleep/resume. I did not remove apic. > > > So just removing SMP, but not removing apic? What if you boot the SMP kernel > with 'kern.smp.disabled=1' set from the loader? Is removing apic necessary when removing SMP? I have a lot of boxes without SMP and with apic, notebooks and desktops, and everything is working ok, using APIC interrupts routing. -- Sergey Solyanik http://www.chereda.net/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 09:22:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE51A16A4CE; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491CD43D5C; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:22:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from xeon (xeon.unixathome.org [192.168.0.18]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4D13D3D; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:22:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:22:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Langille X-X-Sender: dan@xeon.unixathome.org To: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: <200404271002.02680.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <20040427121958.S44673@xeon.unixathome.org> References: <20040425171142.GA23825@teardrop.org> <200404270921.39774.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <200404271002.02680.jhb@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org cc: Daniel Roethlisberger Subject: Re: XFree86 & ACPI don't like each other? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:22:34 -0000 On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, John Baldwin wrote: > On Tuesday 27 April 2004 09:42 am, Dan Langille wrote: > > Sorry, my previous message was incomplete. > > > > On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, John Baldwin wrote: > > > On Sunday 25 April 2004 05:08 pm, Daniel Roethlisberger wrote: > > > > Hans Lambermont [2004-04-25/19:47]: > > > > > James Snow wrote: > > > > > > On the other hand, X and ACPI don't seem to get along very well. If > > > > > > I boot with ACPI, X will sometimes hang when starting or stopping. > > > > > > Doesn't appear to be very consistent or predictable, but I can't > > > > > > get through more than 1 clean start and stop of X without it > > > > > > locking the machine up solid. > > > > > > > > I have the same problem. Running a non-SMP kernel fixes the problem for > > > > me without having to disable ACPI. Also see this open PR: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=misc/60512 > > > > > > Did you remove 'device apic' as well? > > > > FWIW, X under 5.2.1-RELEASE would freeze on me. Creating a non-SMP kernel > > solved the problem for me. I'm still using ACPI but only just started > > using sleep/resume. I did not remove apic. > > So just removing SMP, but not removing apic? What if you boot the SMP kernel > with 'kern.smp.disabled=1' set from the loader? I installed an SMP kernel, added kern.smp.disabled=1 to /etc/loader.conf, and rebooted. I have since gone into X, quit, and back into X. No freezing. David: can you explain how this helps analyze the problem? (i.e disabling SMP versus removing it from the kernel) -- Dan Langille - BSDCan: http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 09:26:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B712516A4CE; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B0743D45; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:26:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from xeon (xeon.unixathome.org [192.168.0.18]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00A83D3D; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:26:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:26:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Langille X-X-Sender: dan@xeon.unixathome.org To: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: <20040427121958.S44673@xeon.unixathome.org> Message-ID: <20040427122517.W45476@xeon.unixathome.org> References: <20040425171142.GA23825@teardrop.org> <200404270921.39774.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20040427121958.S44673@xeon.unixathome.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Daniel Roethlisberger cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: XFree86 & ACPI don't like each other? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:26:28 -0000 On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Dan Langille wrote: > On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, John Baldwin wrote: > > > On Tuesday 27 April 2004 09:42 am, Dan Langille wrote: > > > Sorry, my previous message was incomplete. > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, John Baldwin wrote: > > > > On Sunday 25 April 2004 05:08 pm, Daniel Roethlisberger wrote: > > > > > Hans Lambermont [2004-04-25/19:47]: > > > > > > James Snow wrote: > > > > > > > On the other hand, X and ACPI don't seem to get along very well. If > > > > > > > I boot with ACPI, X will sometimes hang when starting or stopping. > > > > > > > Doesn't appear to be very consistent or predictable, but I can't > > > > > > > get through more than 1 clean start and stop of X without it > > > > > > > locking the machine up solid. > > > > > > > > > > I have the same problem. Running a non-SMP kernel fixes the problem for > > > > > me without having to disable ACPI. Also see this open PR: > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=misc/60512 > > > > > > > > Did you remove 'device apic' as well? > > > > > > FWIW, X under 5.2.1-RELEASE would freeze on me. Creating a non-SMP kernel > > > solved the problem for me. I'm still using ACPI but only just started > > > using sleep/resume. I did not remove apic. > > > > So just removing SMP, but not removing apic? What if you boot the SMP kernel > > with 'kern.smp.disabled=1' set from the loader? > > I installed an SMP kernel, added kern.smp.disabled=1 to /etc/loader.conf, > and rebooted. I have since gone into X, quit, and back into X. No > freezing. DOH! Just after sending, I left X and went back in. It froze. Had to power cycle to get the ThinkPad T22 going again. FWIW, since moving to a non-SMP kernel some weeks ago, I've not had that happen. -- Dan Langille - BSDCan: http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 09:50:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68D416A4D6 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.roe.ch (line-zh-102-185.adsl.econophone.ch [212.53.102.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02FF43D69 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:50:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daniel@roe.ch) Received: from roe by dragon.roe.ch with LOCAL id 1BIVmp-00006w-00 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:50:23 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:50:23 +0200 From: Daniel Roethlisberger To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20040427165023.GA31988@dragon.roe.ch> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org References: <20040425171142.GA23825@teardrop.org> <20040425174723.GH14105@moya.lambermont.dyndns.org> <20040425210852.GJ22912@dragon.roe.ch> <200404270921.39774.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="huq684BweRXVnRxX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200404270921.39774.jhb@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: XFree86 & ACPI don't like each other? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:50:26 -0000 --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Baldwin [2004-04-27/09:21]: > On Sunday 25 April 2004 05:08 pm, Daniel Roethlisberger wrote: > > I have the same problem. Running a non-SMP kernel fixes the problem for > > me without having to disable ACPI. Also see this open PR: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dmisc/60512 >=20 > Did you remove 'device apic' as well? No. Just removing SMP did the trick. Cheers, Dan --=20 Daniel Roethlisberger GnuPG key ID 0x804A06B1 (DSA/ElGamal) --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAjo9POXQOmIBKBrERAvCoAKCICeMmZk38Q25B6tGREFvAQm9TTwCePDqO Lop5XEgKNUxJ6kgmb+PASnQ= =0Je+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --huq684BweRXVnRxX-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 10:37:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5262A16A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.speakeasy.net (mail3.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B66C43D6D for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:37:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 6935 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2004 17:37:11 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 27 Apr 2004 17:37:11 -0000 Received: from 10.50.40.205 (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3RHb8R1008406; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:37:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:21:05 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <20040425171142.GA23825@teardrop.org> <200404271002.02680.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <408E705C.7060104@chereda.net> In-Reply-To: <408E705C.7060104@chereda.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200404271321.06052.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on server.baldwin.cx Subject: Re: XFree86 & ACPI don't like each other? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:37:13 -0000 On Tuesday 27 April 2004 10:38 am, Sergey Solyanik wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: > >>>Did you remove 'device apic' as well? > >> > >>FWIW, X under 5.2.1-RELEASE would freeze on me. Creating a non-SMP > >> kernel solved the problem for me. I'm still using ACPI but only just > >> started using sleep/resume. I did not remove apic. > > > > So just removing SMP, but not removing apic? What if you boot the SMP > > kernel with 'kern.smp.disabled=1' set from the loader? > > Is removing apic necessary when removing SMP? > > I have a lot of boxes without SMP and with apic, notebooks and desktops, > and everything is working ok, using APIC interrupts routing. No, it is not necessary. However, knowing whether or not apic alone causes the problem allows us to narrow it down into either the apic code or the SMP code. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 10:37:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A9516A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA05843D49 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:37:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 9440 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2004 17:37:13 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 27 Apr 2004 17:37:13 -0000 Received: from 10.50.40.205 (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3RHb8R2008406; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:37:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:21:48 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <20040425171142.GA23825@teardrop.org> <20040427121958.S44673@xeon.unixathome.org> <20040427122517.W45476@xeon.unixathome.org> In-Reply-To: <20040427122517.W45476@xeon.unixathome.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200404271321.48561.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on server.baldwin.cx cc: Dan Langille cc: Daniel Roethlisberger Subject: Re: XFree86 & ACPI don't like each other? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:37:14 -0000 On Tuesday 27 April 2004 12:26 pm, Dan Langille wrote: > On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Dan Langille wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, John Baldwin wrote: > > > On Tuesday 27 April 2004 09:42 am, Dan Langille wrote: > > > > Sorry, my previous message was incomplete. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, John Baldwin wrote: > > > > > On Sunday 25 April 2004 05:08 pm, Daniel Roethlisberger wrote: > > > > > > Hans Lambermont [2004-04-25/19:47]: > > > > > > > James Snow wrote: > > > > > > > > On the other hand, X and ACPI don't seem to get along very > > > > > > > > well. If I boot with ACPI, X will sometimes hang when > > > > > > > > starting or stopping. Doesn't appear to be very consistent or > > > > > > > > predictable, but I can't get through more than 1 clean start > > > > > > > > and stop of X without it locking the machine up solid. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the same problem. Running a non-SMP kernel fixes the > > > > > > problem for me without having to disable ACPI. Also see this open > > > > > > PR: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=misc/60512 > > > > > > > > > > Did you remove 'device apic' as well? > > > > > > > > FWIW, X under 5.2.1-RELEASE would freeze on me. Creating a non-SMP > > > > kernel solved the problem for me. I'm still using ACPI but only just > > > > started using sleep/resume. I did not remove apic. > > > > > > So just removing SMP, but not removing apic? What if you boot the SMP > > > kernel with 'kern.smp.disabled=1' set from the loader? > > > > I installed an SMP kernel, added kern.smp.disabled=1 to /etc/loader.conf, > > and rebooted. I have since gone into X, quit, and back into X. No > > freezing. > > DOH! Just after sending, I left X and went back in. It froze. Had to > power cycle to get the ThinkPad T22 going again. FWIW, since moving to a > non-SMP kernel some weeks ago, I've not had that happen. Ok, so the problem is not with any code that checks smp_active (it may be that someplace should be checking smp_active and isn't for instance). -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 16:11:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189DD16A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (gilmore.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.33.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01AAD43D53 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:11:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (IDENT:iH9eXq1hANx/MJYM1uegzEoNFFOiDzwN@localhost.nas.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) i3RNB5NL000393; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:11:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Tobias Roth From: Dave Tweten Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:11:05 -0700 Message-ID: <392.1083107465@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Sender: tweten@nas.nasa.gov cc: James Snow cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86 & ACPI don't like each other? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David.E.Tweten@nasa.gov List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:11:06 -0000 roth@iam.unibe.ch said: >you do realize that this [F1 to F12] console switch [after wake-up >from hibernation] can be automated? I had read that but hadn't been successful in a short fit of trying to make it work. Your e-mail inspired me to try again, this time successfully. My previous problem was that the vidcontrol man page didn't communicate to me that the argument to "-s" is the function key number you want, not the device number. The man page also didn't say anything about redirecting standard input, and your use of /dev/ttyv0 didn't make sense to me (why the same device both times?). Thanks to your inspiration and a little mailing list research, vidcontrol -s 1 < /dev/console before hibernation and vidcontrol -s 12 < /dev/console afterward has eliminated the need to unfreeze XFree86 manually. Thanks. -- M/S 258-5 |1024-bit PGP fingerprint:|tweten@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center | 41 B0 89 0A 8F 94 6C 59| (650) 604-4416 Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000| 7C 80 10 20 25 C7 2F E6|FAX: (650) 604-4377 Not an official NASA position. You can't even be certain who sent this! From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 27 17:47:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE6A16A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B9343D46 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:47:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 1BIdEk-0000u2-4h for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:47:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:47:42 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040428004741.GA2395@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <6120.1083024664@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> <20040426214159.Q39020@xeon.unixathome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040426214159.Q39020@xeon.unixathome.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Subject: Re: suspend/resume on T22 running 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 00:47:43 -0000 Dan Langille probably said: > I've been to that URL before. I was/am concerned that FreeBSD is not a > supported OS. The disk in question has both Windows 98 (rarely used) and > FreeBSD 5.2.1. Your recommendation is to proceed with the utility at that > URL? The OS tells the bios to suspend and the bios uses the dos-level slice to suspend to. Yes, create the suspend to disk partition/slice as IBM recommend (that's what I use with -stable and my X30 and have been for some time now. I've also posted information about this to the list before, if you read the archives). P. -- pir From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 28 11:25:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A40716A4CE; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tznet.com (mail.tznet.com [66.170.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A222043D31; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:25:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottp@tznet.com) Received: from mail.tznet.com (mail.tznet.com [66.170.64.2]) by mail.tznet.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i3SIPMOv056051; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:25:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:25:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Pilz To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040428131439.C46625@mail.tznet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-T-Net-Virus-Scan: 66.170.64.2: Clean cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: hostap TX fix in 5.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:25:26 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Has anyone found a fix for this problem yet? Affects: In FreeBSD-5.x / Current Card Used: Prism 2.5, tried all firmware (from 1.3.9 to 1.7.2) While the interface (wi driver) is set to hostap, associated clients can upload at 11mbit/sec but download a maximum at half of that (I'm seeing a maximum being around 180KB/sec). Running FreeBSD 4.9 with the same card works fine (500-600KB/sec both up and down) while in hostap. Adhoc in 5.x and 4.x work fine at full speeds. As far as I can tell the problem deals with the wi(4) driver. I've confirmed this with the usage of over a dozen prism 2.5 PCMCIA cards of various versions of firmware (primary & station). Heres the current versions I've tried: Intersil Firmware: Primary (1.1.1), Station (1.7.4) There has not been a lot of talk on this, but there are some (short) discussions out there that end up being a dead-end. Anyone have any comments/suggestions/heard anything more than I have? Thanks, Scott -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAj/cS2REUg6gjWxgRAoHsAKCxIBH5i8xpa+tzi7jyfKIOJOtCMwCfXkY1 iUhnYi+cj2WG90J4zMuTFMU= =k8ko -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 28 17:35:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E8416A4CE for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web40506.mail.yahoo.com (web40506.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 08AD243D5C for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:35:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phusion2k@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040429003522.12319.qmail@web40506.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.199.188.202] by web40506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:35:22 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:35:22 -0700 (PDT) From: phusion To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: PC Card Bus Modem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:35:23 -0000 i was wondering what would be a good pc card modem to get that will work in freebsd 5.x with no hassle, please let me know your good experiences with manufacturers and model numbers __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 28 22:16:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA5F16A4CE; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB8943D3F; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:16:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i3T5GQgr072906; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:16:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:16:48 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20040428.231648.61847948.imp@bsdimp.com> To: scottp@tznet.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20040428131439.C46625@mail.tznet.com> References: <20040428131439.C46625@mail.tznet.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hostap TX fix in 5.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 05:16:27 -0000 In message: <20040428131439.C46625@mail.tznet.com> Scott Pilz writes: : Has anyone found a fix for this problem yet? No. Turns out that OpenBSD has a fix for it, but I've not had a chance to integrate it into FreeBSD. Unless I'm confusing this with something else. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 02:47:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40CDC16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 02:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector01.richardkaestner.com (212-88-187-192.ADSL.ycn.com [212.88.187.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C933043D49 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 02:47:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rfk@richardkaestner.com) Received: by vector01.richardkaestner.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8D2E4170B3; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:47:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Richard =?iso-8859-15?q?K=E4stner?= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:47:22 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200404291147.22155.richard.kaestner@ycn.com> Subject: Toshiba Satellite refuses to work with 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: richard.kaestner@ycn.com List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:47:25 -0000 Crossposting (from questions) =2D--------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Fwd: Notebook Problem: refuses to work with 4.x (more Info) Date: Thursday 29 April 2004 10:51 =46rom: Richard K=E4stner To: rfk =2D--> providing some more info I am running FreeBSD 5.0 (far out of date, I know) on a Toshiba Satelite 1100. Basically, I am not willing (better: not experienced enough !) to run a sys= tem=20 at state-of-the-art level. So I would really like to go with 4.9 (or 4.10) However: my "Satellite" can't even boot any 4.xx CD / Floppy. Boot Process stops with a message complaining about PC-Cards and Controller. (Sorry, no screen-shots available) Boot messages (4.9, CD2, as far as seen on boot-screen): =2E.. pci_cfgintr: can't route an interrupt to 2:4 INTA pcic1: Warning: 02micro OZ6800 chips may not work =2E.. atapic0: port 0x1800-0x180f, 0-0x3, 0-0x7, 0-0x3, 0-0x7 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x1f0 irq 15 on atapci0 =2E.. pci0: (vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D2483) at 31.3 irq 10 pci0: (vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D2483) at 31.5 irq 10 pci0: (vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D2483) at 31.6 irq 10 =3D=3D> stops booting here Running 5.0 works so far (with exception of regular compplains about ACPI) - but it works! Only thing that matters: ports and packages are terribly out of date. Since I am using my Notebook on a regular base, I fear upgrades and "experiments". Has anybody a tip for me (besides "buy a new one ..." ;=3D) Any hints and help is most appreciated! =2D- Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen Richard K=E4stner EDV-Beratung Woerthgasse 17 2500 Baden Austria From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 02:54:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8042416A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 02:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from santiago.pacific.net.sg (santiago.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B24E43D54 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 02:54:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 8703 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2004 09:54:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell2.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.192) by santiago with SMTP; 29 Apr 2004 09:54:13 -0000 Received: from pacific.net.sg ([210.24.202.28]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20040429095412.BAUL1277.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@pacific.net.sg>; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:54:12 +0800 Message-ID: <4090CF99.4080709@pacific.net.sg> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:49:13 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040409 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: richard.kaestner@ycn.com References: <200404291147.22155.richard.kaestner@ycn.com> In-Reply-To: <200404291147.22155.richard.kaestner@ycn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Toshiba Satellite refuses to work with 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:54:16 -0000 Hi, Richard K=E4stner wrote: > Basically, I am not willing (better: not experienced enough !) to run a= system=20 > at state-of-the-art level. > So I would really like to go with 4.9 (or 4.10) > However: my "Satellite" can't even boot any 4.xx CD / Floppy. >=20 > Boot Process stops with a message complaining about PC-Cards and Contro= ller. > (Sorry, no screen-shots available) >=20 I think that the support for notebooks is much better in 5.x. Have you ever tried to move to 5.2 or 5.2.1? The chances to get this=20 running are pretty high when 5.0 already runs on it. Erich From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 03:03:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC29916A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 03:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDF943D49 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 03:03:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ian.brunell@tiscali.co.uk) Received: from ppp-0-165.manc-b-1.access.uk.tiscali.com ([80.40.36.165]:1037 helo=tiscali.co.uk) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BJ8Ki-0006Gc-9M; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:59:56 +0100 Message-ID: <4090D083.4060002@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:53:07 +0100 From: "Ian F. Brunell" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block , Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org References: <20040421200159.Y38240@wonkity.com> In-Reply-To: <20040421200159.Y38240@wonkity.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Toshiba Tecra 8000, Lucent Modem, FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE, and ltmdm-1.4_5.tgz X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:03:13 -0000 Hello, Thankyou for your comments and encouragement. I downloaded ltmdm-1.4.tgz from the port maintainer's web-site and installed it with the ports system. It appears to install with one warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/ports/comms/ltmdm/work/sys/modules/ltmdm Upon rebooting the modem is not detected (no mention in "dmesg | grep ltmdm") but the ltmdm module is loaded. I have tried: 1) re-configuring the kernel with different sio options 2) re-installing the system and installing the port with the GENERIC kernel. 3) playing around with the laptop's BIOS settings in conjunction with (1). All to no avail. I have a couple of questions though: 1) what version of the BIOS are you using? I have version 9.30 and perhaps this is significant? 2) do you have any particular options enabled in your kernel configuration file? My next move will be to contact the port maintainer. Thanks once again, Ian.- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 07:06:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DE016A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 07:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from starling.mail.pas.earthlink.net (starling.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A7343D5F for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 07:06:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from welchsm@earthlink.net) Received: from c-66-41-232-103.mn.client2.attbi.com ([66.41.232.103] helo=NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net) by starling.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 3.36 #4) id 1BJCBF-0006zK-00; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 07:06:25 -0700 Received: from NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i3TE5xg5019862; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:05:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from welchsm@localhost.welchsmnet.net) Received: (from welchsm@localhost)i3TE5xH3019861; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:05:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from welchsm) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:05:59 -0500 From: Sean Welch To: "Ian F. Brunell" Message-ID: <20040429140559.GA19813@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> References: <20040421200159.Y38240@wonkity.com> <4090D083.4060002@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4090D083.4060002@tiscali.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-ELNK-Trace: 15d86f98c8ef8acad780f4a490ca69564776905774d2ac4b151a7521b1acb40d61765617d63b395f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Toshiba Tecra 8000, Lucent Modem, FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE, and ltmdm-1.4_5.tgz X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:06:27 -0000 Hi, Ian! I run a Dell Inspiron 8000 so I don't think the bios rev is going to help you much. ;-) I'm able to get my modem to work with a fresh install and a GENERIC kernel. I saw that this fellow had responded to you and it seems he has more apropos info: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=125345+0+archive/2004/freebsd-mobile/20040425.freebsd-mobile This indicates that your hardware setup is somewhat unique and the port will not work without some modification. By comparison, my modem shows up on the PCI bus. Just for clarification, it is perfectly possible to load kernel modules that don't have anything to do with your system hardware/setup and thus don't do anything. Good luck -- I hope you can get it working soon! Sean On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 10:53:07AM +0100, Ian F. Brunell wrote: > Hello, > > Thankyou for your comments and encouragement. I downloaded ltmdm-1.4.tgz > from the port maintainer's web-site and installed it with the ports > system. It appears to install with one warning: > > Object directory not changed from original > /usr/ports/comms/ltmdm/work/sys/modules/ltmdm > > Upon rebooting the modem is not detected (no mention in "dmesg | grep > ltmdm") but the ltmdm module is loaded. I have tried: > > 1) re-configuring the kernel with different sio options > 2) re-installing the system and installing the port with the GENERIC > kernel. > 3) playing around with the laptop's BIOS settings in conjunction with (1). > > All to no avail. I have a couple of questions though: > 1) what version of the BIOS are you using? I have version 9.30 and > perhaps this is significant? > 2) do you have any particular options enabled in your kernel > configuration file? > > My next move will be to contact the port maintainer. > > Thanks once again, > > Ian.- > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 07:18:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from green.homeunix.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA2616A4CE; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 07:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (green@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.homeunix.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3TEInJb046861; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:18:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from green@green.homeunix.org) Message-Id: <200404291418.i3TEInJb046861@green.homeunix.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Scott Pilz In-Reply-To: Message from Scott Pilz of "Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:25:20 CDT." <20040428131439.C46625@mail.tznet.com> From: Brian Fundakowski Feldman Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:18:49 -0400 Sender: green@green.homeunix.org cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hostap TX fix in 5.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:18:50 -0000 Scott Pilz wrote: > Has anyone found a fix for this problem yet? > > Affects: In FreeBSD-5.x / Current > Card Used: Prism 2.5, tried all firmware (from 1.3.9 to 1.7.2) > > While the interface (wi driver) is set to hostap, associated clients can > upload at 11mbit/sec but download a maximum at half of that (I'm seeing a > maximum being around 180KB/sec). I think you need to reevaluate testing procedures; there is no way you could be getting remotely close to 11mbit/s speeds. Please provide more accurate figures for comparison or it's hard to guess what might be "wrong". -- Brian Fundakowski Feldman \'[ FreeBSD ]''''''''''\ <> green@FreeBSD.org \ The Power to Serve! \ Opinions expressed are my own. \,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,\ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 07:30:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C681A16A4CE; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 07:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tznet.com (mail.tznet.com [66.170.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5849343D3F; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 07:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottp@tznet.com) Received: from mail.tznet.com (mail.tznet.com [66.170.64.2]) by mail.tznet.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i3TETRUZ053975; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:29:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:29:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Pilz To: Brian Fundakowski Feldman In-Reply-To: <200404291418.i3TEInJb046861@green.homeunix.org> Message-ID: <20040429092503.V49036@mail.tznet.com> References: <200404291418.i3TEInJb046861@green.homeunix.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-T-Net-Virus-Scan: 66.170.64.2: Clean cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hostap TX fix in 5.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:30:04 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 11mbit/half duplex 802.11b.. I've seen speeds at around 600KBytes/sec (4.6mbit/sec) which is about the best you can do - and isn't bad by any means. As I explained below, the problem is with FBSD 5.X (all the way to CURRENT), where I'm seeing the speeds drop from what they were in 4.x to around 180KBytes/sec (or 1.4mbit/sec). Scott On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: > Scott Pilz wrote: > > Has anyone found a fix for this problem yet? > > > > Affects: In FreeBSD-5.x / Current > > Card Used: Prism 2.5, tried all firmware (from 1.3.9 to 1.7.2) > > > > While the interface (wi driver) is set to hostap, associated clients can > > upload at 11mbit/sec but download a maximum at half of that (I'm seeing a > > maximum being around 180KB/sec). > > I think you need to reevaluate testing procedures; there is no way you could > be getting remotely close to 11mbit/s speeds. Please provide more accurate > figures for comparison or it's hard to guess what might be "wrong". > > -- > Brian Fundakowski Feldman \'[ FreeBSD ]''''''''''\ > <> green@FreeBSD.org \ The Power to Serve! \ > Opinions expressed are my own. \,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,\ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAkRFH2REUg6gjWxgRAnG5AKDA4cDQxmSire/jqsh0b3hzkPgV4QCcCwc5 v+hY8uEoPTzNWraeDaTLNn8= =MFcP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 08:25:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7A916A4CF for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freeman.4gh.net (wbar4.wdc2-4.16.193.227.wdc2.elnk.dsl.genuity.net [4.16.193.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C2743D58 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:25:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sab@4gh.net) Received: from localhost (stuartb@localhost) by freeman.4gh.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i3TFPQgd013891; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:25:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sab@4gh.net) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:25:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Stuart Barkley To: Richard =?iso-8859-15?q?K=E4stner?= In-Reply-To: <200404291147.22155.richard.kaestner@ycn.com> Message-ID: <20040429111846.J12983@freeman.4gh.net> References: <200404291147.22155.richard.kaestner@ycn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Toshiba Satellite refuses to work with 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:25:28 -0000 On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 at 11:47 +0200, Richard Kästner wrote: > I am running FreeBSD 5.0 (far out of date, I know) on a Toshiba > Satelite 1100. > > Basically, I am not willing (better: not experienced enough !) to > run a system at state-of-the-art level. > So I would really like to go with 4.9 (or 4.10) > However: my "Satellite" can't even boot any 4.xx CD / Floppy. This sounds like the same issues I have on my Toshiba 1005. I haven't updated my web page yet, but I'm now using 4.9. See: http://www.4gh.net/hints/toshiba/satellite1005-s157.html To boot from the FreeBSD install CD: Booting [kernel] in 10 seconds... [press space key] ok boot -c [...boot messages...] config> eisa 0 config> quit The system should now boot up correctly. You will need to build and install a new kernel which disables eisa support. -- http://www.4gh.net/tudor/resume.html Return address spam blocked. Work hard and you can contact me via email. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 09:22:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6155916A4CF for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B288943D5C for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:22:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BJEIz-0008C6-00 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:22:33 +0200 Received: from makrothumia.wingnet.net ([206.30.215.5]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:22:33 +0200 Received: from jesse by makrothumia.wingnet.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:22:33 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:22:31 -0400 Organization: WingNET Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <20040429003522.12319.qmail@web40506.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: makrothumia.wingnet.net User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: PC Card Bus Modem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:22:35 -0000 phusion wrote: > i was wondering what would be a good pc card modem to > get that will work in freebsd 5.x with no hassle, > please let me know your good experiences with > manufacturers and model numbers I use a: "3COM Megahertz 56k Global GSM & Cellular Modem PC Card with XJACK Connector" Model #: 3CXM756 You can get these for less than $30 shipped to your door from pricewatch. I have only tested the 56k functionality, not GSM, fax, or voice. 56k works great. Modem dialing sound even comes out of my laptop's speakers! I've tested it with 5.1-RELEASE and 5.2.1-RELEASE. Here's what it looks like in dmesg: sio4: <3Com Megahertz 3CXM756/3CCM756> at port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 9 function 0 config 34 on pccard0 sio4: type 16550A sio4: unable to activate interrupt in fast mode - using normal mode I think it's a bit of a power hog though. Don't dial up unless you're on AC. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 09:36:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5141416A4D6 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166D143D39 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:36:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BJEWf-0008TS-00 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:36:41 +0200 Received: from makrothumia.wingnet.net ([206.30.215.5]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:36:41 +0200 Received: from jesse by makrothumia.wingnet.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:36:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:36:40 -0400 Organization: WingNET Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <200404291418.i3TEInJb046861@green.homeunix.org> <20040429092503.V49036@mail.tznet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: makrothumia.wingnet.net User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: hostap TX fix in 5.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:36:42 -0000 Scott Pilz wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > 11mbit/half duplex 802.11b.. I've seen speeds at around > 600KBytes/sec (4.6mbit/sec) which is about the best you can do - and isn't > bad by any means. As I explained below, the problem is with FBSD 5.X (all > the way to CURRENT), where I'm seeing the speeds drop from what they were > in 4.x to around 180KBytes/sec (or 1.4mbit/sec). Hmmm... well that might explain why my Bacula backup yesterday morning over wi0 was only getting 180KBytes/sec. I thought that was really odd. Moving to 10/100 with fxp driver instantly gave me 1226.4 KB/s (9.58mbit/sec) with the exact same config. Granted, 9.58mbit/s isn't real great either, but at that point I'm being limited by my laptop's CPU because my bacula file daemon is configured to gzip the data before sending it over the wire. wi0: mem 0xf0000000-0xf0000fff irq 9 at device 2.0 on pci2 wi0: 802.11 address: 00:20:e0:8a:90:61 wi0: using RF:PRISM2.5 MAC:ISL3874A(Mini-PCI) wi0: Intersil Firmware: Primary (1.1.1), Station (1.7.4) wi0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps I had originally chalked it up to the fact that I run 104-bit WEP, but now I'm thinking that it's wi's fault. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 10:05:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7FA16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merc94.na.sas.com (merc94.na.sas.com [149.173.6.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D652243D46 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:05:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Charles.Tudor@sas.com) Received: from merc20.na.sas.com ([10.16.9.33]) by merc94.na.sas.com with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:05:40 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:05:39 -0400 Message-ID: <939FBCFFFF9B0C40BF8B53294E2296DB4B0587@merc20.na.sas.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: PDA file for netgear ma401ra 802.11b wireless network card. Thread-Index: AcQuDDJ2D9ngvEljQeC3EoQAil53Qw== From: "Charles Tudor" To: Subject: PDA file for netgear ma401ra 802.11b wireless network card. X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:05:42 -0000 Does anyone have a copy of the pda file for the prism 2.5 version of the ma401 card? My card was updated with the latest firmware=20 from the netgear site and now my card thinks it's based on prism 2.0 chipset. I have had no luck getting a response from netgear. Charles From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 12:11:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D00B16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from illuin.org (firewall.illuin.org [66.141.59.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C864A43D45 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:11:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from richard@illuin.org) Received: (qmail 82056 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Apr 2004 19:10:48 -0000 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:10:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Richard Letts X-X-Sender: richard@hobbiton.illuin.org To: Charles Tudor In-Reply-To: <939FBCFFFF9B0C40BF8B53294E2296DB4B0587@merc20.na.sas.com> Message-ID: <20040429140513.S81892@hobbiton.illuin.org> References: <939FBCFFFF9B0C40BF8B53294E2296DB4B0587@merc20.na.sas.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PDA file for netgear ma401ra 802.11b wireless network card. X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:11:09 -0000 On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Charles Tudor wrote: > Does anyone have a copy of the pda file for the prism 2.5 version > of the ma401 card? My card was updated with the latest firmware > from the netgear site and now my card thinks it's based on prism > 2.0 chipset. I have had no luck getting a response from netgear. A PDA is included in the firmware update directory with the latest windows XP drivers. /RjL From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 13:21:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1545516A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay3.mail2web.com (relay3.mail2web.com [168.144.1.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8122443D54 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:21:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kivi@mn.rr.com) Received: from M2W090.mail2web.com ([168.144.251.202]) by relay3.mail2web.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:21:44 -0400 Message-ID: <54360-220044429202118395@M2W090.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Originating-IP: 12.24.244.70 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "kivi@mn.rr.com" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:21:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Apr 2004 20:21:44.0438 (UTC) FILETIME=[96F3D160:01C42E27] Subject: pccard X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: kivi@mn.rr.com List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:21:46 -0000 I have an acer aspire 2000 laptop with freebsd5=2E2! i can not get the pcc= ard to work!!!! i get these errors; pccard0: CIS tuple chain: pccard0: Card has no functions! pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 pccard0: CIS tuple chain: pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 pccard0: CIS tuple chain: pccard0: Card has no functions! pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 pccard0: Card has no functions! cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 cbb0: [MPSAFE] cbb0: PC Card card activation failed any help would be really appreciated! kivi -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 15:47:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C7216A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDA443D3F for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:47:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i3TMl6gs081281; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:47:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:44:37 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20040429.164437.10999418.imp@bsdimp.com> To: kivi@mn.rr.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <54360-220044429202118395@M2W090.mail2web.com> References: <54360-220044429202118395@M2W090.mail2web.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pccard X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:47:17 -0000 In message: <54360-220044429202118395@M2W090.mail2web.com> "kivi@mn.rr.com" writes: : I have an acer aspire 2000 laptop with freebsd5.2! i can not get the pccard : to work!!!! i get these errors; : : pccard0: CIS tuple chain: : pccard0: Card has no functions! : pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 : pccard0: CIS tuple chain: : pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 : pccard0: CIS tuple chain: : pccard0: Card has no functions! : pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 : pccard0: Card has no functions! : cardbus0: on cbb0 : pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 : cbb0: [MPSAFE] : cbb0: PC Card card activation failed : : any help would be really appreciated! Upgrade. This bug has been fixed in -current, I believe. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 17:04:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7779216A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reason.levels.unisa.edu.au (reason.levels.unisa.edu.au [130.220.33.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6043743D48 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:04:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cisbjc@cs.unisa.edu.au) Received: from cs.unisa.edu.au (cis202068.levels.unisa.edu.au [130.220.37.202])i3U049LK018287 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:34:09 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <409197F3.8090307@cs.unisa.edu.au> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:34:03 +0930 From: Benjamin Close User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.82.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: pcic in FreeBSD 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:04:11 -0000 Hi All, Is there any plans to support the pcic devices in -current. I've got an old 486dx2 with an isa pcmcia adapter. I can't use my hermese based wi0 card under 4.9 without wi_cmd time outs. Under 5.2.1 I can't use the device full stop. Any Plans? Cheers, Benjamin -- 3D Research Associate / System Administrator +61 8 8302 3669 School of Computer and Information Science Room D1-07, ML Campus University of South Australia Mawson Lakes Blvd. Benjamin.Close@cs.unisa.edu.au South Australia, 5095 F00D C83D 5F7E 5561 DF91 B74D E602 CAA3 4842 B5B4 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 19:27:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B43316A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merc94.na.sas.com (merc94.na.sas.com [149.173.6.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A54B43D5F for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:27:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Charles.Tudor@sas.com) Received: from merc20.na.sas.com ([10.16.9.33]) by merc94.na.sas.com with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:27:06 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:24:42 -0400 Message-ID: <939FBCFFFF9B0C40BF8B53294E2296DB16DC01@merc20.na.sas.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: PDA file for netgear ma401ra 802.11b wireless network card. Thread-Index: AcQuHd8JJmoLQbPjQ3+pweqepkBemwAPGxhd From: "Charles Tudor" To: Subject: RE: PDA file for netgear ma401ra 802.11b wireless network card. X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:27:08 -0000 I have received a copy of the correct pda file and I was able to fix my = network card. =20 Charles =20 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 29 20:02:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A994516A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inaddy.Brazil.Sun.COM (18587125.virtua.com.br [200.185.87.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD67843D53 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:02:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rafael@coisa.org) Received: from coisa.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])i3U328EU015348 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:02:08 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from rafael@coisa.org) Message-ID: <4091C1AF.7040305@coisa.org> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:02:07 -0300 From: rafael david tinoco User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040408) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: PS/2 SERIAL/IO X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:02:03 -0000 hello, i have a toshiba P25 notebook and after using linux on it ive noticed that it uses SERIAL/IO to "find" my PS/2 mouse. okay.. now , on BSD (my real OS for daily use hehe) im having problems to find my PS/2 integrated mouse (it doesnt find any SERIAL IO controller) so the driver psm does not work. for now im using USB mouse (ums0)... does anybody know if this problem is related to ACPI (i dont believe so) or anything else that could be fixed by passing some sysctl args, or something like that ? thanks in advance rafael david tinoco rafael@coisa.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 02:38:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2978116A4CE; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dd2626.kasserver.com (dd2626.kasserver.com [81.209.184.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C6F43D39; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:38:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from outi@bytephobia.de) Received: from bytephobia.de (pD95F0562.dip.t-dialin.net [217.95.5.98]) by dd2626.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DD91FF54; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:37:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40921E4B.3080609@bytephobia.de> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:37:15 +0200 From: Patrick Hurrelmann User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040409) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:38:04 -0000 Hi, I am currently using a Dell TrueMobile 1300 (Broadcom) on my Dell Latitude D600 Notebook. Thanks to Bill Pauls awesome work it is performs very well for daily und "normal" wireless lan usage. But i want to run some tools, that are only available fo wi-cards. Is Prism54-Chipset already supported? I read something that a driver for linux exists on www.prism54.org. will it make it to freebsd or is it highly unlikely? Some on the lists posted, that he has replaced his card with an ath-based one. Maybe ath is an alternative to wi, but i'd relly prefer wi (802.11g or a is a must have). thanks Patrick From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 03:09:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E6216A4CE; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coruscant.rfc1149.org (coruscant.rfc1149.org [217.160.130.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B661943D49; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:09:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arne@rfc2549.org) Received: by coruscant.rfc1149.org (Postfix, from userid 110) id 8D5BF3FB3; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:09:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kamino.rfc1149.org (kamino.rfc1149.org [2001:8d8:81:11::2]) by coruscant.rfc1149.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5813CBE; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:09:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: by kamino.rfc1149.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9616E35; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:09:50 +0200 (CEST) To: Patrick Hurrelmann In-Reply-To: <40921E4B.3080609@bytephobia.de> (Patrick Hurrelmann's message of "Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:37:15 +0200") References: <40921E4B.3080609@bytephobia.de> From: Arne Schwabe Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:09:50 +0200 Message-ID: <867jvxbwup.fsf@kamino.rfc1149.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on coruscant.rfc1149.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 X-Spam-Level: cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:09:55 -0000 Patrick Hurrelmann writes: > Hi, > > I am currently using a Dell TrueMobile 1300 (Broadcom) on my Dell > Latitude D600 Notebook. Thanks to Bill Pauls awesome work it is > performs very well for daily und "normal" wireless lan usage. > > But i want to run some tools, that are only available fo wi-cards. > Is Prism54-Chipset already supported? I read something that a driver > for linux exists on www.prism54.org. will it make it to freebsd or is > it highly unlikely? > > Some on the lists posted, that he has replaced his card with an > ath-based one. Maybe ath is an alternative to wi, but i'd relly prefer > wi (802.11g or a is a must have). I think that the prism54 is not support. But Atheros Chips have a/b/g (They were the first a chipsets) Arne -- Ah, the beauty of OSS. Hundreds of volunteers worldwide volunteering their time inventing and implementing new exciting ways of old fashioned wheels. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 03:35:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B3816A4CF for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pengo.systems.pipex.net (pengo.systems.pipex.net [62.241.160.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7273C43D2F for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:35:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com) Received: from ape (81-178-82-2.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.82.2]) by pengo.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C93F94C0005E for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:35:00 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <002301c42e9e$c3a2bfb0$f700000a@ape> From: "Markie" To: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:34:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: Acer TravelMate 212TX Laptop, AGP error of sorts. X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:35:01 -0000 I posted this to questions as I didn't realise there was a mobile list. So I will just copy paste the same message I guess :o) ----- Hello All, I have just just aquired the laptop in the title and have tried FreeSBIE (1.0?) on it, the one based on 5.2.1-R. It fails to boot normally, the only option that appears to half work is safe mode otherwise it'll hang at some IP thing: "IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing.". With safe mode, it is able to boot providing at the Init local packages bit I press ctrl+c (otherwise it panics... more on that later :o) Right now I have got it running and it'll start X and everything fine, I am quite chuffed. However in dmesg I just noticed something the panic may be related too: agp0: mem 0xe0000000-0xe3fffff at device 0.0 on pci0 agp0: bad initial aperture size, disabling device_probe_and_attach: agp0 attach returned 6 I am guessing this is broken hardware? Anyway, in safe mode the panic occurs (whenever I load any kernel module by the looks of it) is: (be warned, this probably isn't really all that helpful but I am waiting for a hard disk to arrive... then I may be able to build a debug kernel if it's needed?) agp0: mem 0xe0000000-0xe3ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 panic: resource_list_alloc: resource entry is busy I tried just booting a normal earlier 5.1-R CD which gave a different panic along the lines of: contigmalloc0: size must not be 0 Any help would be much appreciated, i'd like to try and use FreeBSD on this laptop if at all possible :o) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 03:45:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4613916A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from santiago.pacific.net.sg (santiago.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49E4943D39 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:45:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 3383 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2004 10:45:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell2.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.192) by santiago with SMTP; 30 Apr 2004 10:45:13 -0000 Received: from pacific.net.sg ([210.24.202.28]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20040430104512.FZIK1277.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@pacific.net.sg>; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:45:12 +0800 Message-ID: <40922CFC.1070208@pacific.net.sg> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:39:56 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040409 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Markie References: <002301c42e9e$c3a2bfb0$f700000a@ape> In-Reply-To: <002301c42e9e$c3a2bfb0$f700000a@ape> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Acer TravelMate 212TX Laptop, AGP error of sorts. X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:45:16 -0000 Hi, Markie wrote: > I posted this to questions as I didn't realise there was a mobile list. So > I will just copy paste the same message I guess :o) > This is life. > agp0: mem 0xe0000000-0xe3fffff at device > 0.0 on pci0 > agp0: bad initial aperture size, disabling > device_probe_and_attach: agp0 attach returned 6 > I have had a problem like this too on a normal PC. Just change the AGP setting in the BIOS. > Any help would be much appreciated, i'd like to try and use FreeBSD on this > laptop if at all possible :o) There should not be any problem. Erich From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 03:46:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC9916A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pengo.systems.pipex.net (pengo.systems.pipex.net [62.241.160.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C9543D39 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:46:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com) Received: from ape (81-178-82-2.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.82.2]) by pengo.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 75A994C0005E for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:46:45 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <003101c42ea0$68423130$f700000a@ape> From: "Markie" To: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:46:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:46:48 -0000 Also, has anyone had any experience with this card? From the picture all that I can see written on the card is Intel PRO/100 CardBus II I am thinking I should get a Xircom (aren't they Intel too or something?) Thanks! From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 03:48:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332FF16A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:48:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pengo.systems.pipex.net (pengo.systems.pipex.net [62.241.160.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E5243D41 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:48:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com) Received: from ape (81-178-82-2.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.82.2]) by pengo.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 50F654C002DF for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:48:45 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <003701c42ea0$af1aa2e0$f700000a@ape> From: "Markie" To: References: <002301c42e9e$c3a2bfb0$f700000a@ape> <40922CFC.1070208@pacific.net.sg> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:48:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: Re: Acer TravelMate 212TX Laptop, AGP error of sorts. X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:48:46 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erich Dollansky" To: "Markie" Cc: Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Acer TravelMate 212TX Laptop, AGP error of sorts. | Hi, | | Markie wrote: | > I posted this to questions as I didn't realise there was a mobile list. So | > I will just copy paste the same message I guess :o) | > | This is life. :o) it is | | > agp0: mem 0xe0000000-0xe3fffff at device | > 0.0 on pci0 | > agp0: bad initial aperture size, disabling | > device_probe_and_attach: agp0 attach returned 6 | > | I have had a problem like this too on a normal PC. Just change the AGP | setting in the BIOS. There isn't actually an AGP setting in the BIOS on this laptop, it's all pretty basic! | | > Any help would be much appreciated, i'd like to try and use FreeBSD on this | > laptop if at all possible :o) | | There should not be any problem. I would like it very much if there wasn't :o) Unfortuantly... it appears there is! | | Erich Thanks! From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 04:10:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A9F16A4CE; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spmler3.mail.eds.com (spmler3.mail.eds.com [194.128.225.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1D143D67; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:10:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas.sparrevohn@eds.com) Received: from spmlir3.mail.eds.com (spmlir3.mail.eds.com [205.191.69.43]) by spmler3.mail.eds.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i3UBA9uT010171; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:10:10 +0100 Received: from spmlir3.mail.eds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i3UB9qgq016047; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:09:52 +0100 Received: from ukspm104.exemhub.exch.eds.com ([204.230.90.155]) i3UB9qId016032; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:09:52 +0100 Received: by ukspm104.exemhub.exch.eds.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:09:50 +0100 Message-ID: <2946E9F05C8DD511A7DC0002A5608CE401233E64@gbchm201.exgb01.exch.eds.com> From: "Sparrevohn, Thomas" To: "'Arne Schwabe'" , Patrick Hurrelmann Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:09:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:10:17 -0000 It reminds me - It seems that the 80211 part of the driver does not support "authmode shared" mode? Are there any plans for in support of that? Or are that a good reason for the lack of it - e.g. legal etc? -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Arne Schwabe Sent: 30 April 2004 11:10 To: Patrick Hurrelmann Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; freebsd-current@freebsd.org; freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? Patrick Hurrelmann writes: > Hi, > > I am currently using a Dell TrueMobile 1300 (Broadcom) on my Dell > Latitude D600 Notebook. Thanks to Bill Pauls awesome work it is > performs very well for daily und "normal" wireless lan usage. > > But i want to run some tools, that are only available fo wi-cards. Is > Prism54-Chipset already supported? I read something that a driver for > linux exists on www.prism54.org. will it make it to freebsd or is it > highly unlikely? > > Some on the lists posted, that he has replaced his card with an > ath-based one. Maybe ath is an alternative to wi, but i'd relly prefer > wi (802.11g or a is a must have). I think that the prism54 is not support. But Atheros Chips have a/b/g (They were the first a chipsets) Arne -- Ah, the beauty of OSS. Hundreds of volunteers worldwide volunteering their time inventing and implementing new exciting ways of old fashioned wheels. _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 04:18:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B6416A4D0 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.interbgc.com (mail.interbgc.com [217.9.224.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9712A43D5E for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:18:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nike_d@cytexbg.com) Received: (qmail 3649 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2004 11:18:00 -0000 Received: from nike_d@cytexbg.com by keeper.interbgc.com by uid 1002 with qmail-scanner-1.14 (uvscan: v4.1.60/v4335. spamassassin: 2.63. 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Processed in 2.86957 secs); 30 Apr 2004 11:23:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phobos.totalterror.net) (10.0.0.2) by tormentor.totalterror.net with SMTP; 30 Apr 2004 11:23:44 -0000 References: <2946E9F05C8DD511A7DC0002A5608CE401233E64@gbchm201.exgb01.exch.eds.com> Message-ID: X-Mailer: http://www.courier-mta.org/cone/ From: Niki Denev To: "Sparrevohn, Thomas" Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:17:58 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_mimegpg-phobos.totalterror.net-670-1083323878-0022"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" cc: Patrick Hurrelmann cc: 'Arne Schwabe' cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:18:04 -0000 This is a MIME GnuPG-signed message. If you see this text, it means that your E-mail or Usenet software does not support MIME signed messages. --=_mimegpg-phobos.totalterror.net-670-1083323878-0022 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sparrevohn, Thomas writes: > It reminds me - It seems that the 80211 part of the driver does not support > "authmode shared" mode? Are there any plans for in support of that? Or are > that a good reason for the lack of it - e.g. legal etc? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Arne Schwabe > Sent: 30 April 2004 11:10 > To: Patrick Hurrelmann > Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; freebsd-current@freebsd.org; > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? > > > Patrick Hurrelmann writes: > >> Hi, >> >> I am currently using a Dell TrueMobile 1300 (Broadcom) on my Dell >> Latitude D600 Notebook. Thanks to Bill Pauls awesome work it is >> performs very well for daily und "normal" wireless lan usage. >> >> But i want to run some tools, that are only available fo wi-cards. Is >> Prism54-Chipset already supported? I read something that a driver for >> linux exists on www.prism54.org. will it make it to freebsd or is it >> highly unlikely? >> >> Some on the lists posted, that he has replaced his card with an >> ath-based one. Maybe ath is an alternative to wi, but i'd relly prefer >> wi (802.11g or a is a must have). > > I think that the prism54 is not support. But Atheros Chips have a/b/g (They > were the first a chipsets) > > Arne > -- > Ah, the beauty of OSS. Hundreds of volunteers worldwide volunteering their > time inventing and implementing new exciting ways of old fashioned wheels. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > As far as i remember, a while ago someone pointed out that in fact authmode shared is less secure than open mode. So this shouldn't be much of a problem :) --Niki Denev --=_mimegpg-phobos.totalterror.net-670-1083323878-0022 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBAkjXmHNAJ/fLbfrkRAtGUAKCCWkqXiF1FVdNRlxBXN5JOsFo45gCdGcA9 Blv12rVolqoyj7irARf9hZ8= =DN0Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_mimegpg-phobos.totalterror.net-670-1083323878-0022-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 04:25:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336E216A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.octapharma.se (smtp.octapharma.se [195.198.168.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF12943D5F for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:25:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Mikael.Gunnarsson@octapharma.se) Received: from sestosrv004p.ad.octapharma.se ([195.198.13.61] RDNS failed) by smtp.octapharma.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 30 Apr 2004 13:29:14 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 13:25:20 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II Thread-Index: AcQuoH1deFYR9IKaRe+B7hrOqU9owgABTGYw From: "Gunnarsson, Mikael" To: "Markie" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Apr 2004 11:29:15.0062 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E0DAD60:01C42EA6] Subject: RE: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:25:24 -0000 > I am thinking I should get a Xircom (aren't they Intel too or > somet= hing?) The other way around I think.. the Intel TypeIII cards are rebr= anded Xircom cards.. Mvh Mikael Gunnarsson Octapharma AB / IT T= his email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended= solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addresse= d. If you have received this email in error please notify the system mana= ger. This message contains confidential information and is intended only = for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should n= ot disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 04:35:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F9416A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pengo.systems.pipex.net (pengo.systems.pipex.net [62.241.160.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9730D43D68 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:35:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com) Received: from ape (81-178-82-2.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.82.2]) by pengo.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E290D4C00139; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:35:15 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <004301c42ea7$2f015890$f700000a@ape> From: "Markie" To: "Gunnarsson, Mikael" , References: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:35:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: Re: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:35:18 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gunnarsson, Mikael" To: "Markie" ; Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 12:25 PM Subject: RE: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II >> I am thinking I should get a Xircom (aren't they Intel too or >> something?) > >The other way around I think.. the Intel TypeIII cards are rebranded Xircom cards.. Oh right! I actually just digged up a netgear FA410 card, works, but it's missing the dongle... and I have just been reading the dongle for the card breaks really easily. So if they're just rebranded then the Intel one should work just fine with the xircom driver, right? I'm not entirely sure which one would work best! > >Mvh >Mikael Gunnarsson >Octapharma AB / IT > > >This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity >to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This >message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named >addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 04:41:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42AAA16A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.octapharma.se (smtp.octapharma.se [195.198.168.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7720443D5E for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:41:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Mikael.Gunnarsson@octapharma.se) Received: from sestosrv004p.ad.octapharma.se ([195.198.13.61] unverified) by smtp.octapharma.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 30 Apr 2004 13:45:34 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 13:41:40 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II Thread-Index: AcQupzYjhFUH/gYbQ+O/lrKBRVvl5QAADsMg From: "Gunnarsson, Mikael" To: "Markie" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Apr 2004 11:45:34.0859 (UTC) FILETIME=[A60ED5B0:01C42EA8] Subject: RE: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:41:42 -0000 > >The other way around I think.. the Intel TypeIII cards are rebranded= > Xircom cards.. > > Oh right! I actually just digged up a netgear F= A410 card, > works, but it's > missing the dongle... and I have just b= een reading the dongle > for the card > breaks really easily. Most = dongles break easily, which is why they suck in the first place. (And tha= t they always get lost.) > So if they're just rebranded then the Inte= l one should work > just fine with > the xircom driver, right? I'm not= entirely sure which one > would work best! I haven't had any proble= ms with Xircom or Intel cards under FreeBSD, so I'd say either is a good = bet in any case. If your laptop has room for a TypeIII card (and you don'= t need the other slot) then go for a Realport. I'm not sure how the FreeB= SD support for the Realport2 cards are though, as the only Realport2 card= I have is broken. Mikael Gunnarsson This email and any files= transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of = the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received= this email in error please notify the system manager. This message conta= ins confidential information and is intended only for the individual name= d. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distrib= ute or copy this e-mail. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 04:44:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE21D16A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pengo.systems.pipex.net (pengo.systems.pipex.net [62.241.160.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8624D43D5E for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:44:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com) Received: from ape (81-178-82-2.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.82.2]) by pengo.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CBD944C00196; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:44:50 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <004901c42ea8$85a36d40$f700000a@ape> From: "Markie" To: "Gunnarsson, Mikael" , References: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:44:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: Re: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:44:53 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gunnarsson, Mikael" To: "Markie" ; Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 12:41 PM Subject: RE: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II >> >The other way around I think.. the Intel TypeIII cards are rebranded >> Xircom cards.. >> >> Oh right! I actually just digged up a netgear FA410 card, >> works, but it's >> missing the dongle... and I have just been reading the dongle >> for the card >> breaks really easily. > >Most dongles break easily, which is why they suck in the first place. (And that they always get lost.) Oh :o) > >> So if they're just rebranded then the Intel one should work >> just fine with >> the xircom driver, right? I'm not entirely sure which one >> would work best! > >I haven't had any problems with Xircom or Intel cards under FreeBSD, so I'd say either is a good bet in any case. If >your laptop has room for a TypeIII card (and you don't need the other slot) then go for a Realport. I'm not sure how >the FreeBSD support for the Realport2 cards are though, as the only Realport2 card I have is broken. > Yeah, I just found a cool page about working cards and both of the cards I was looking at are an OK working status :o) http://people.freebsd.org/~imp/CardStatus.html I don't really know anything about laptops at all, how would I tell if I have room for a TypeIII card? I was thinking about getting a wireless card aswell, it might be kinda handy to have them both plugged in at the same time if I can. I am guessing I won't be able to do that anyway though? Thanks again!!! > >Mikael Gunnarsson > > > >This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity >to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This >message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named >addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 04:45:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB7F16A50A; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spmler2.mail.eds.com (spmler2.mail.eds.com [194.128.225.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A05C43D78; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:45:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas.sparrevohn@eds.com) Received: from spmlir3.mail.eds.com (spmlir3.mail.eds.com [205.191.69.43]) i3UBj3IZ027564; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:45:04 +0100 Received: from spmlir3.mail.eds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i3UBiH4i031751; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:44:17 +0100 Received: from ukspm103.exemhub.exch.eds.com ([204.230.90.153]) i3UBiHOX031725; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:44:17 +0100 Received: by ukspm103.exemhub.exch.eds.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:44:17 +0100 Message-ID: <2946E9F05C8DD511A7DC0002A5608CE401233E66@gbchm201.exgb01.exch.eds.com> From: "Sparrevohn, Thomas" To: "'Niki Denev'" , "Sparrevohn, Thomas" Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:44:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain cc: Patrick Hurrelmann cc: 'Arne Schwabe' cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:45:14 -0000 It really does not depend on the reality of how secure a shared mode is ;-) but of what the local immutable policy is ;-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Niki Denev Sent: 30 April 2004 12:18 To: Sparrevohn, Thomas Cc: Patrick Hurrelmann; 'Arne Schwabe'; freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? Sparrevohn, Thomas writes: > It reminds me - It seems that the 80211 part of the driver does not > support "authmode shared" mode? Are there any plans for in support of > that? Or are that a good reason for the lack of it - e.g. legal etc? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Arne Schwabe > Sent: 30 April 2004 11:10 > To: Patrick Hurrelmann > Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; freebsd-current@freebsd.org; > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? > > > Patrick Hurrelmann writes: > >> Hi, >> >> I am currently using a Dell TrueMobile 1300 (Broadcom) on my Dell >> Latitude D600 Notebook. Thanks to Bill Pauls awesome work it is >> performs very well for daily und "normal" wireless lan usage. >> >> But i want to run some tools, that are only available fo wi-cards. Is >> Prism54-Chipset already supported? I read something that a driver for >> linux exists on www.prism54.org. will it make it to freebsd or is it >> highly unlikely? >> >> Some on the lists posted, that he has replaced his card with an >> ath-based one. Maybe ath is an alternative to wi, but i'd relly prefer >> wi (802.11g or a is a must have). > > I think that the prism54 is not support. But Atheros Chips have a/b/g > (They were the first a chipsets) > > Arne > -- > Ah, the beauty of OSS. Hundreds of volunteers worldwide volunteering their > time inventing and implementing new exciting ways of old fashioned wheels. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > As far as i remember, a while ago someone pointed out that in fact authmode shared is less secure than open mode. So this shouldn't be much of a problem :) --Niki Denev From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 04:45:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789DC16A50A for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from salvador.pacific.net.sg (salvador.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4389A43D31 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:45:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 29352 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2004 11:45:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell6.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.212) by salvador with SMTP; 30 Apr 2004 11:45:08 -0000 Received: from pacific.net.sg ([210.24.202.28]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20040430114508.CCIN1186.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@pacific.net.sg>; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:45:08 +0800 Message-ID: <40923B06.3070103@pacific.net.sg> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:39:50 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040409 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Markie References: <002301c42e9e$c3a2bfb0$f700000a@ape> <40922CFC.1070208@pacific.net.sg> <003701c42ea0$af1aa2e0$f700000a@ape> In-Reply-To: <003701c42ea0$af1aa2e0$f700000a@ape> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Acer TravelMate 212TX Laptop, AGP error of sorts. X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:45:17 -0000 Hi, Markie wrote: > | > agp0: mem 0xe0000000-0xe3fffff at > device > | > 0.0 on pci0 > | > agp0: bad initial aperture size, disabling > | > device_probe_and_attach: agp0 attach returned 6 > | > > | I have had a problem like this too on a normal PC. Just change the AGP > | setting in the BIOS. > > There isn't actually an AGP setting in the BIOS on this laptop, it's all > pretty basic! > I could change this in my BIOS and it worked afterward. Check your BIOS again. It was also hidden pretty good on my machine. Maybe, somebody else has some better idea. Erich From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 04:51:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5441B16A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pengo.systems.pipex.net (pengo.systems.pipex.net [62.241.160.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAD743D69 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:51:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com) Received: from ape (81-178-82-2.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.82.2]) by pengo.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A99A4C00230; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:51:42 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <004f01c42ea9$7b891a70$f700000a@ape> From: "Markie" To: "Erich Dollansky" References: <002301c42e9e$c3a2bfb0$f700000a@ape> <40922CFC.1070208@pacific.net.sg> <003701c42ea0$af1aa2e0$f700000a@ape> <40923B06.3070103@pacific.net.sg> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:51:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Acer TravelMate 212TX Laptop, AGP error of sorts. X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:51:45 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erich Dollansky" To: "Markie" Cc: Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Acer TravelMate 212TX Laptop, AGP error of sorts. | Hi, | | Markie wrote: | | > | > agp0: mem 0xe0000000-0xe3fffff at | > device | > | > 0.0 on pci0 | > | > agp0: bad initial aperture size, disabling | > | > device_probe_and_attach: agp0 attach returned 6 | > | > | > | I have had a problem like this too on a normal PC. Just change the AGP | > | setting in the BIOS. | > | > There isn't actually an AGP setting in the BIOS on this laptop, it's all | > pretty basic! | > | I could change this in my BIOS and it worked afterward. | | Check your BIOS again. It was also hidden pretty good on my machine. | Is it a desktop machine? This is a fairly oldish laptop, 800MHz Celeron. I went to check again though, it really is pretty empty in there :o) | Maybe, somebody else has some better idea. I may have found half a solution in the form of a patch, http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2003-December/016587.html but I will have to wait for my hard disk to arrive before I can play about actually installing FreeBSD first I suppose :o) | | Erich From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 05:05:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C1F16A4D4 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 05:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.octapharma.se (smtp.octapharma.se [195.198.168.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3AC43D4C for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 05:05:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Mikael.Gunnarsson@octapharma.se) Received: from sestosrv004p.ad.octapharma.se ([195.198.13.61] unverified) by smtp.octapharma.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:08:59 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:05:05 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II Thread-Index: AcQuqIzZFuAAla+3QN6pQUDC86W84AAACe7A From: "Gunnarsson, Mikael" To: "Markie" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Apr 2004 12:08:59.0687 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB669370:01C42EAB] Subject: RE: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:05:18 -0000 > I don't really know anything about laptops at all, how would > I te= ll if I > have room for a TypeIII card? I was thinking about getting a = > wireless card > aswell, it might be kinda handy to have them both plug= ged in > at the same > time if I can. I am guessing I won't be able to= do that anyway though? If your laptop has two pccard slots on top of = eachother, you can fit a TypeIII card. A TypeIII card takes up both slots= though. Xircom 'solved' the problem with the Realport2 cards, since i= t will take both slots in height, but only a half slot in width, so you c= an fit another Realport2 card, flipped upside-down, as well. Of course, y= ou then limit yourself to only using another realport2 in the second slot= . I'm not sure if there is a wlan realport2 card though. There is a bluet= ooth card, but I haven't seen a wlan one. The advantage of the realpor= t cards are of course that you get a real RJ45 connector built into the c= ard, so you don't have to use a fragile dongle or xjack.. Mikael This= email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended so= lely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. = If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager= . This message contains confidential information and is intended only for= the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not = disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 05:21:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2AE16A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 05:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D5943D3F for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 05:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E2B3D34; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:21:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: "Gunnarsson, Mikael" Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:21:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <40920C6F.8352.4237D6D1@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:21:04 -0000 On 30 Apr 2004 at 14:05, Gunnarsson, Mikael wrote: > The advantage of the realport cards are of course that you get a real > RJ45 connector built into the card, so you don't have to use a fragile > dongle or xjack.. I am using the Linksys EtherFast 10/100 PCCard. It has a full RJ45 connector. I've had two since early 2003 and I've havd no problem with them. I prefer them over a dongled card. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 05:25:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D39716A4D8 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pengo.systems.pipex.net (pengo.systems.pipex.net [62.241.160.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BC543D6B for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 05:25:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com) Received: from ape (81-178-82-2.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.82.2]) by pengo.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BD1C4C002EC; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 13:25:13 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <005d01c42eae$29a51b50$f700000a@ape> From: "Markie" To: "Gunnarsson, Mikael" , References: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 13:25:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: Re: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:25:20 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gunnarsson, Mikael" To: "Markie" ; Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 1:05 PM Subject: RE: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II >> I don't really know anything about laptops at all, how would >> I tell if I >> have room for a TypeIII card? I was thinking about getting a >> wireless card >> aswell, it might be kinda handy to have them both plugged in >> at the same >> time if I can. I am guessing I won't be able to do that anyway though? > >If your laptop has two pccard slots on top of eachother, you can fit a TypeIII card. A TypeIII card takes up both >slots though. Ooh! I see, yes it has two slots on top of each other :o) > >Xircom 'solved' the problem with the Realport2 cards, since it will take both slots in height, but only a half slot in >width, so you can fit another Realport2 card, flipped upside-down, as well. Of course, you then limit yourself to only >using another realport2 in the second slot. I'm not sure if there is a wlan realport2 card though. There is a bluetooth >card, but I haven't seen a wlan one. Well now that does sound weird! Seems like I will have to be sticking to the single slot normal card things if I am wanting to have a wireless card too. Is there any special things I should consider when having two cards in at once or will it be ok? > >The advantage of the realport cards are of course that you get a real RJ45 connector built into the card, so you don't >have to use a fragile dongle or xjack.. The cards I am looking at are also 32 bit (the dongle ones). I was just wondering if I will get any kind of major performance loss using 16 bit cards. I can only find a Realport1? card (just says realport) and they're 16 bit... and so is this FA410 card if I was to get a dongle for it instead. Again, thank you :o) > >Mikael >This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity >to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This >message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named >addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 06:40:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F7D16A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fuse1.fusemail.net (smtp.fusemail.net [69.31.1.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21EBA43D5C for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:40:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1BJYFI-0007de-Fk for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:40:05 -0500 Received: from phpmailer ([192.168.0.76]) by euler with HTTP (PHPMailer); Fri, 30 Apr 2004 21:50:02 +0800 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 21:50:02 +0800 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E9=9F=A1=E6=AD=A6_=E5=BC=B5?= Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version 1.71] X-Mailer: Dawnmail version 0.9.5 Organization: REAL Softservice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Subject: "device card" no longer being used? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 13:40:16 -0000 Hello. I feel a bit strange why the pcic device is commented out on = FreeBSD 5.2.1 GENERIC on my old thinkpad 380XD. This way my old IBM Creditcard Ethernet II on PCMCIA cannot be detected. But this card is on the list of 5.2.1 hardware list. I tried to uncomment = it and get the compile error: > cc -c -O -pipe -march=3Dpentium-mmx -Wall -Wredundant-decls = -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmi > ssing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual = -fformat-extensions -std=3Dc99 -nostdinc -I- > -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/src/sys/ > contrib/dev/ath -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm -D_KERNEL -inclu > de opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=3D15000 = -fno-strict-aliasing=20 -mno-align-long-strings -mpre > ferred-stack-boundary=3D2 -ffreestanding -Werror=20 /usr/src/sys/dev/pcic/i82365.c > /usr/src/sys/dev/pcic/i82365.c: In function `pcic_chip_do_mem_map': > /usr/src/sys/dev/pcic/i82365.c:849: error: structure has no member named `offset' > /usr/src/sys/dev/pcic/i82365.c:851: error: structure has no member named `offset' > /usr/src/sys/dev/pcic/i82365.c:851: error: `PCCARD_MEM_ATTR' undeclared (first use in this function) > > /usr/src/sys/dev/pcic/i82365.c:851: error: (Each undeclared identifier = is reported only once > /usr/src/sys/dev/pcic/i82365.c:851: error: for each function it appears in.) > /usr/src/sys/dev/pcic/i82365.c: In function `pcic_chip_mem_map': > /usr/src/sys/dev/pcic/i82365.c:928: error: structure has no member named `offset' > /usr/src/sys/dev/pcic/i82365.c: In function `pcic_enable_socket': > /usr/src/sys/dev/pcic/i82365.c:1212: warning: implicit declaration of function `CARD_GET_TYPE' > /usr/src/sys/dev/pcic/i82365.c:1216: error: `PCCARD_IFTYPE_IO' = undeclared (first use in this functio > n) > /usr/src/sys/dev/pcic/i82365.c: In function `pcic_set_res_flags': > /usr/src/sys/dev/pcic/i82365.c:1467: error: `PCCARD_MEM_ATTR' undeclared (first use in this function > ) > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TP380XD. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. The notebook used to run FreeBSD 4.5 with kernel config: # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support device card device pcic0 device pcic1 And if i compile with=20 device pccard rather than=20 device card I get the compile error: > thinkpad# make kernel clean KERNCONF=3DTP380XD > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Kernel build for TP380XD started on Thu Apr 29 17:53:14 CST 2004 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > =3D=3D=3D> TP380XD > mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/sys > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf;=20 PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/ > usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/s= bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/ > usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin=20 config -d /usr/obj/usr/src/s > ys/TP380XD /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/TP380XD > config: Device "card" requires a count > config: 1 errors > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > Does that mean FreeBSD 5.2.1 only suppor cardbus devices?=20 I wish I don't have to go back to 4.x thanks to that I want to use = bluetooth which is only supported in 5.x Please give me a hint. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 07:11:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6525B16A4CF for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fuse1.fusemail.net (smtp.fusemail.net [69.31.1.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6FB43D46 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:11:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1BJYjv-0007EN-6H for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:11:44 -0500 Received: from phpmailer ([192.168.0.76]) by euler with HTTP (PHPMailer); Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:21:40 +0800 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:21:40 +0800 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E9=9F=A1=E6=AD=A6_=E5=BC=B5?= Message-ID: <76584efdb50d56199c55cc369563508d@euler> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version 1.71] X-Mailer: Dawnmail version 0.9.5 Organization: REAL Softservice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Subject: Re: "device card" no longer being used? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:11:50 -0000 =E9=9F=A1=E6=AD=A6 =E5=BC=B5 wrote:=20 >Hello. I feel a bit strange why the pcic device is commented out on >FreeBSD >5.2.1 GENERIC on my old thinkpad 380XD. This way my old IBM Creditcard >Ethernet II on PCMCIA cannot be detected. OMG. Now I realized the pcic drive in 5.2.1 does not work at all. Look the 4.9 pcic(4) everything is okay, on 5.0 pcic(4) there is one more line: = "The drive does not work at all." Now can you figure out a way to downgrade my 5.2.1 to 4.9 smoothly? My partiation is only one slice with 128MB swap and one partition inside the slice with "/" mounted on. Perhaps I'll have to clear out the harddisk to re-install, but that way I have 2GB of valuable data to backup, what do I use for backup if without NIC? plip0 is only what I can think of, that way I'll need 2GB/(45KBps*3600*24*365)=3D1.4 years to back up my data. Oh what should I do! How I regret upgrading to 5.2.1. Why not people keep the old 4.x pcic drive when the new one is not working:( Sign. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 07:14:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F081416A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hzeroseven.org (hzeroseven.org [81.169.151.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50A143D5E for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:14:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@h07.org) Received: from hzeroseven.org (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i3UEEPQU014563 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:14:25 +0200 Received: from localhost (phantom@localhost)i3UEEPEi014560; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:14:25 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: hzeroseven.org: phantom owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:14:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Enrico Kern X-X-Sender: phantom@hzeroseven.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E9=9F=A1=E6=AD=A6_=E5=BC=B5?= In-Reply-To: <76584efdb50d56199c55cc369563508d@euler> Message-ID: References: <76584efdb50d56199c55cc369563508d@euler> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: WTF! X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:14:33 -0000 Heyho, wtf have you specified as your Realname. it shows some crypto names on my terminal and if i get a mail from you to this mailinglist the "mail" command crashed and kills my terminal. And this on a up2date linux system ;) Enrico -------------------> "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." (Rich Cook) On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, [UTF-8] =E9^_=A1=E6=AD=A6 =E5=BC=B5 wrote: > =E9=9F=A1=E6=AD=A6 =E5=BC=B5 wrote: > >Hello. I feel a bit strange why the pcic device is commented out on > >FreeBSD > >5.2.1 GENERIC on my old thinkpad 380XD. This way my old IBM Creditcard > >Ethernet II on PCMCIA cannot be detected. > > OMG. Now I realized the pcic drive in 5.2.1 does not work at all. Look th= e > 4.9 pcic(4) everything is okay, on 5.0 pcic(4) there is one more line: "T= he > drive does not work at all." > > Now can you figure out a way to downgrade my 5.2.1 to 4.9 smoothly? My > partiation is only one slice with 128MB swap and one partition inside the > slice with "/" mounted on. Perhaps I'll have to clear out the harddisk to > re-install, but that way I have 2GB of valuable data to backup, what do I > use for backup if without NIC? plip0 is only what I can think of, that wa= y > I'll need 2GB/(45KBps*3600*24*365)=3D1.4 years to back up my data. > > Oh what should I do! How I regret upgrading to 5.2.1. Why not people keep > the old 4.x pcic drive when the new one is not working:( Sign. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 08:22:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C083816A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailtest.sd73.bc.ca (mailtest.sd73.bc.ca [142.24.13.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E36343D31 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:22:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailtest.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D200573432 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailtest.sd73.bc.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailtest.sd73.bc.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73072-08 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.169] (unknown [192.168.0.169]) by mailtest.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C7473422 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:22:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Freddie Cash Organization: School District 73 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200004300821.40926.fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at sd73.bc.ca Subject: Re: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:22:11 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 08:21:40 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:22:11 -0000 On April 30, 2004 05:05 am, Gunnarsson, Mikael wrote: > If your laptop has two pccard slots on top of eachother, you can fit > a TypeIII card. A TypeIII card takes up both slots though. > Xircom 'solved' the problem with the Realport2 cards, since it will > take both slots in height, but only a half slot in width, so you can > fit another Realport2 card, flipped upside-down, as well. Of course, > you then limit yourself to only using another realport2 in the second > slot. I'm not sure if there is a wlan realport2 card though. There is > a bluetooth card, but I haven't seen a wlan one. > The advantage of the realport cards are of course that you get a real > RJ45 connector built into the card, so you don't have to use a > fragile dongle or xjack.. And everybody else solved that problem in a much more logical way, using only a single Type II slot and putting the full RJ45 connector on the outside of the port. Linksys, NetGear, SMC, D-Link all have integrated PCCard and CardBus NICs. The nice thing about these is that you can use them in laptops that only have a single Type II slot, or you can put another Type II card underneath if you have two slots. Unfortunately, you can't use one of these integrated cards and a wireless card, unless you can find a wireless NIC that puts the antenna bump on the bottom of the card. -- Freddie Cash fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 08:26:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5604916A4CF for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postal3.es.net (postal3.es.net [198.128.3.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A60743D70 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:26:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal3.es.net (Postal Node 3) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:26:00 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id A51FB5D0A; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:25:58 -0700 (PDT) To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E9=9F=A1=E6=AD=A6_=E5=BC=B5?= In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:21:40 +0800." <76584efdb50d56199c55cc369563508d@euler> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:25:58 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20040430152558.A51FB5D0A@ptavv.es.net> cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "device card" no longer being used? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:26:03 -0000 > Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:21:40 +0800 > From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E9=9F=A1=E6=AD=A6_=E5=BC=B5?= > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > =E9=9F=A1=E6=AD=A6 =E5=BC=B5 wrote:=20 > >Hello. I feel a bit strange why the pcic device is commented out on > >FreeBSD > >5.2.1 GENERIC on my old thinkpad 380XD. This way my old IBM Creditcard > >Ethernet II on PCMCIA cannot be detected. > > OMG. Now I realized the pcic drive in 5.2.1 does not work at all. Look the > 4.9 pcic(4) everything is okay, on 5.0 pcic(4) there is one more line: = > "The > drive does not work at all." > > Now can you figure out a way to downgrade my 5.2.1 to 4.9 smoothly? My > partiation is only one slice with 128MB swap and one partition inside the > slice with "/" mounted on. Perhaps I'll have to clear out the harddisk to > re-install, but that way I have 2GB of valuable data to backup, what do I > use for backup if without NIC? plip0 is only what I can think of, that way > I'll need 2GB/(45KBps*3600*24*365)=3D1.4 years to back up my data. > > Oh what should I do! How I regret upgrading to 5.2.1. Why not people keep > the old 4.x pcic drive when the new one is not working:( Sign. Don't panic! (I couldn't find the "LargeFriendlyLetters" font.) For PCIC support on V5, you need to build an OLDCARD kernel. There is a sample configuration for OLDCARD in /sys/i386/conf and it only entails changing a few lines. Basically you remove cbb, pccard, and cardbus and add pcic and card. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 08:48:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD82A16A533 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.bariatricsupportcenter.com (bsciweb.bariatricsupportcenter.com [208.187.136.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9FA43D41 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:48:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrislist@bariatricsupportcenter.com) Received: from [192.168.2.20] (w024177.ap.plala.or.jp [222.151.24.177]) 1F8E3252DDD for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:47:59 -0600 (MDT) From: Chris Miller To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200004300821.40926.fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca> References: <200004300821.40926.fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1083340215.21048.7.camel@reaper1.reaperville.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:50:46 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:48:53 -0000 > Unfortunately, you can't use one of these integrated cards and a > wireless card, unless you can find a wireless NIC that puts the antenna > bump on the bottom of the card. I have a Buffalo WLI-PCM-L11GP 802.11b wireless card that has a flat antenna (no bump on either side) so it can be used in the top or bottom slot. Just thought I'd point out that WiFi cards do exist without the dreaded bump. -Chris From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 08:55:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458E816A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pengo.systems.pipex.net (pengo.systems.pipex.net [62.241.160.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DE143D46 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:55:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com) Received: from ape (81-178-82-2.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.82.2]) by pengo.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 119814C00254 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:55:53 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <005001c42ecb$97f5e590$f700000a@ape> From: "Markie" To: References: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:55:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: Re: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:55:56 -0000 On 30 Apr 2004 at 14:05, Gunnarsson, Mikael wrote: >> The advantage of the realport cards are of course that you get a real >> RJ45 connector built into the card, so you don't have to use a fragile >> dongle or xjack.. > >I am using the Linksys EtherFast 10/100 PCCard. It has a full RJ45 >connector. I've had two since early 2003 and I've havd no problem >with them. I prefer them over a dongled card. lol I am an idiot! I wondered why I wasn't getting many messages from this list... I forgot to confirm the subscription :o) I will try and find out some stuff about this card too then, thanks! Will I be able to use a wireless card with this in at the same time, having the port on the card and all. Like the other person said, I would probably have to look for a wireless card with the bump on the top rather than the bottom... or something like that :) >-- >Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ >BSDCan - http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 09:06:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF9D16A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pengo.systems.pipex.net (pengo.systems.pipex.net [62.241.160.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2839743D39 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:06:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com) Received: from ape (81-178-82-2.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.82.2]) by pengo.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 630244C00081 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:06:24 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <005901c42ecd$102fd4c0$f700000a@ape> From: "Markie" To: References: <005001c42ecb$97f5e590$f700000a@ape> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:06:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: Re: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:06:27 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Markie" To: Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 4:55 PM Subject: Re: Intel PRO/100 CardBus II | On 30 Apr 2004 at 14:05, Gunnarsson, Mikael wrote: | | >> The advantage of the realport cards are of course that you get a real | >> RJ45 connector built into the card, so you don't have to use a fragile | >> dongle or xjack.. | > | >I am using the Linksys EtherFast 10/100 PCCard. It has a full RJ45 | >connector. I've had two since early 2003 and I've havd no problem | >with them. I prefer them over a dongled card. | | lol I am an idiot! I wondered why I wasn't getting many messages from this | list... I forgot to confirm the subscription :o) I will try and find out | some stuff about this card too then, thanks! Will I be able to use a | wireless card with this in at the same time, having the port on the card | and all. Like the other person said, I would probably have to look for a | wireless card with the bump on the top rather than the bottom... or | something like that :) The only Linksys card I can find in the UK doesn't appear to have a built in port :o) I think I will try for the Intel card and just.... hope! All my desktop Intel cards have been extremely painless anyway :o) | | >-- | >Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ | >BSDCan - http://www.bsdcan.org/ | | _______________________________________________ | freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list | http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile | To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 12:29:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E661A16A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pengo.systems.pipex.net (pengo.systems.pipex.net [62.241.160.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1415A43D62 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:29:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com) Received: from ape (81-178-82-2.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.82.2]) by pengo.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CE2374C0011B for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:28:59 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <007701c42ee9$5cf208c0$f700000a@ape> From: "Markie" To: References: <002301c42e9e$c3a2bfb0$f700000a@ape> <40922CFC.1070208@pacific.net.sg> <003701c42ea0$af1aa2e0$f700000a@ape> <40923B06.3070103@pacific.net.sg> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:28:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: Re: Acer TravelMate 212TX Laptop, AGP error of sorts. X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:29:02 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erich Dollansky" To: "Markie" Cc: Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Acer TravelMate 212TX Laptop, AGP error of sorts. | Hi, | | Markie wrote: | | > | > agp0: mem 0xe0000000-0xe3fffff at | > device | > | > 0.0 on pci0 | > | > agp0: bad initial aperture size, disabling | > | > device_probe_and_attach: agp0 attach returned 6 | > | > | > | I have had a problem like this too on a normal PC. Just change the AGP | > | setting in the BIOS. | > | > There isn't actually an AGP setting in the BIOS on this laptop, it's all | > pretty basic! | > | I could change this in my BIOS and it worked afterward. | | Check your BIOS again. It was also hidden pretty good on my machine. | | Maybe, somebody else has some better idea. Ok, well I forgot about verbose logging, boot -v or number... 5 at the menu now? I can't boot the 5.2.1 boot cd, it panics with the resoure busy thing or apparently freezes. With verbose logging on it doesn't actually freeze... well it does... but it is something to do with acpi (and it doesn't happen when acpi is disabled, but then it panics because of agp which is my next question) acpi_acad0: acline initialization start acpi_acad0: On Line acpi_acad0: acline initialization done, tried 1 times acpi_cmbat0: battery initialization start acpi_cmbat0: battery initialization done, tried 1 times Then it just stops :) Scroll lock still works and I can scroll about and stuff. As for agp, well.... I just tried that patch I mentioned earlier on a hacked up version of FreeSBIE I made (didn't work all that well) it worked enough for me to tell that the patch fixed my panic though. I got some other odd error about ATAPI_IDENTIFY... but I think this was a bug introduced in -CURRENT recently? Can I make a 5.2.1-R install CD myself with this patch somehow? Thanks!! | | Erich From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 17:23:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5250216A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakermmtao08.cox.net (lakermmtao08.cox.net [68.230.240.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D87143D46 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:23:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bob89@bobj.org) Received: from mail.bobj.org ([24.250.218.207]) by lakermmtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20040501002317.IOJN10595.lakermmtao08.cox.net@mail.bobj.org> for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:23:17 -0400 Received: from bobj.wb4jcm.org ([192.168.132.167]) by neti.bobj.org with esmtp; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:23:15 -0400 From: Bob Johnson To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:23:13 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <76584efdb50d56199c55cc369563508d@euler> In-Reply-To: X-Source-System: Bob's Laptop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200404302023.13919.bob89@bobj.org> cc: Enrico Kern Subject: Re: WTF! X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 00:23:18 -0000 On Friday 30 April 2004 10:14 am, Enrico Kern > wrote: > Heyho, > > wtf have you specified as your Realname. it shows some crypto names > on my terminal and if i get a mail from you to this mailinglist the > "mail" command crashed and kills my terminal. And this on a up2date > linux system ;) > It looked like Chinese before your mailer mangled it. Perhaps your=20 system isn't up2date enuf. > Enrico > > -------------------> > "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to > build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying > to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is > winning." (Rich Cook) How true. =2D Bob > > On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, [UTF-8] =E9^_=A1=E6=AD=A6 =E5=BC=B5 wrote: > > =E9=9F=A1=E6=AD=A6 =E5=BC=B5 wrote: [...] From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 30 20:45:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB1E16A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fuse1.fusemail.net (smtp.fusemail.net [69.31.1.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3684843D1D for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:45:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1BJlQn-0002H9-IE for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:44:50 -0500 Message-ID: <40931D74.7000806@realss.com> Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 11:45:56 +0800 From: Zhang Weiwu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040425 X-Accept-Language: zh-cn, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020805060207050204080703" Subject: irq conflict: IBM Creditcard Ether II adapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 03:45:03 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020805060207050204080703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB18030; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. My uname on my Thinkpad 380XD (using OLDCARD kernel) is FreeBSD thinkpad.realss 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Sat May 1 01:18:09 CST 2004 root@thinkpad.realss:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TP380XD i386 I got the following message starting pccardd(8): May 1 11:21:00 thinkpad pccardd[913]: Card "IBM Corp."("Ethernet") [0934214] [PC-NIC ENCC 990010759-001A] matched "IBM Corp." ("Ethernet") [(null)] [(null)] May 1 11:21:00 thinkpad pccardd[913]: Ether=00:04:ac:90:ef:c4 May 1 11:21:00 thinkpad pccardd[913]: Failed to allocate IRQ for IBM Corp. May 1 11:21:00 thinkpad pccardd[913]: pccardd started Adjusting hint.ed.0.irq or adding "irq 5" to /etc/pccard.conf doesn't help. I searched the web it seems my IBM Creditcard Ether II perhaps is an irq selfish card occupying irq 5. But irq 5 is taken by pcm. According to pcm(4) manual, If it's non-PnP card, I can adjust hint.pcm.0.irq; but if the sound card is a PnP card, the device hints doesn't work, irq is assigned automatically, which is right my situation. I also tried to adjust loader.conf by adding hw.pcic entries to disable PCI irq routing and also set hw.pcic.ignore_pci but that doesn't work. As far as I can understand, upon booting pcm finds irq 5 is free, and takes it; after boot, pccardd(8) wish to take irq 5 too and create an irq conflict. Moving pcm away from irq 5 would solve the problem, but it's not possible with my limited knowledge; moving the card away from irq 5 perhaps will work, but it's as well beyond my knowledge. Can you enlight me what to do now? Here is my desg: (my kernel config file is attached.) Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Sat May 1 01:18:09 CST 2004 root@thinkpad.realss:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TP380XD Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc0844000. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/ng_ubt.ko" at 0xc08441f4. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/netgraph.ko" at 0xc08442a0. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Pentium/P55C (quarter-micron) (232.11-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x581 Stepping = 1 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33357824 (31 MB) avail memory = 22990848 (21 MB) Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug VESA: v2.0, 1984k memory, flags:0x0, mode table:0xc07809c2 (1000022) VESA: MagicGraph 128XD 40K SVGA BIOS npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 Using $PIR table, 4 entries at 0xc00fb270 pcib0: at pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pci_cfgintr: 0:3 INTA BIOS irq 11 pci_cfgintr: 0:6 INTD BIOS irq 11 pci0: at device 2.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 2.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 3.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 6.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xfcf0-0xfcff at device 6.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata0: [MPSAFE] ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 ata1: [MPSAFE] uhci0: port 0x9000-0x901f irq 11 at device 6.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ubt0: vendor 0x0a12 product 0x0001, rev 1.10/4.43, addr 2 ubt0: Interface 0 endpoints: interrupt=0x81, bulk-in=0x82, bulk-out=0x2 ubt0: Interface 1 (alt.config 5) endpoints: isoc-in=0x83, isoc-out=0x3; wMaxPacketSize=49; nframes=6, buffer size=294 pci0: at device 6.3 (no driver attached) orm0: