From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 19:51:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D93E16A4CE for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:51:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from device.dyndns.org (device.net1.nerim.net [62.212.100.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6777C43D4C for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:51:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from guy@device.dyndns.org) Received: (from root@localhost) by device.dyndns.org (8.12.11/8.12.5) id i7PJpqHV078806; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:51:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guy@device.dyndns.org) Received: from pissenlit.device.local (pissenlit [10.0.0.88]) by device.dyndns.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7PJpo0I078794; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:51:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guy@device.dyndns.org) From: guy@device.dyndns.org Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.5 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20040818141732.04a6e060@64.7.153.2> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:51:50 +0200 (CEST) To: Mike Tancsa X-Scanned-Against-Virii: by an antivirus :] cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Report of collision-generation with MD5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Security issues [members-only posting] List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:51:56 -0000 On 18-Aug-2004 Mike Tancsa wrote: > As I have no crypto background to evaluate some of the (potentially wild > and erroneous) claims being made in the popular press* (eg > http://news.com.com/2100-1002_3-5313655.html see quote below), one thing > that comes to mind is the safety of ports. If someone can pad an archive > to come up with the same MD5 hash, this would challenge the security of > the FreeBSD ports system no ? I _believe_ answer is "no", because i _think_ the FreeBSD ports system also verify the size of the archive(s) (cat /usr/ports/any/any/distinfo to see what made me think that). Padding would modify archive size. Finding a backdoored version that both satisfy producing the same hash and being the same size is probably not impossible, but how many years would it take ? Now, i may be wrong. Any enlightement welcome. -- Guy