From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 11:29:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA4D16A4CE for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:29:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31CCF43D41 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:29:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sander.vesik@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1151367rnf for ; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 04:29:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ctANQEJx9zYq0W2tm2SnzceJ+ZSwBMKU3SUA2KBYYANTolheIP8b02n0oUvwVZvVW/n3zaAJZtiEnpTLYkzvoGQ+vTPcTIdffw2M79jAuG1hdKqsiEE3S893JVWHZ2eY2tdqdO24HLTAJhzk+rxS8HsgF7geMf4swtHimRUATaQ= Received: by 10.38.208.10 with SMTP id f10mr4987806rng; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 04:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.66.46 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 04:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:29:43 +0300 From: Sander Vesik To: twig les In-Reply-To: <20050330172621.8144.qmail@web60407.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050330172621.8144.qmail@web60407.mail.yahoo.com> cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A good laugh for FBSD people (I hope) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sander Vesik List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 11:29:44 -0000 On Mar 30, 2005 8:26 PM, twig les wrote: > Rather unorthodox post, but this surely gave my stomach muscles > a workout. Apparently FBSD and Apple are the mark(s) of the > beast. > > http://objective.jesussave.us/propaganda.html > > Scroll down to the addendums. Please fight the temptation to > counter each point. > > Choice quote: > "...to open up certain locked files one has to run a program > much like the DOS prompt in Microsoft Windows and type in a > secret code: "chmod 666". What other horrors lurk in this thing?" It is a very well known satire site that makes fun of certain other, dead serious fundamentalist christian and creatonist websites. They have been moving around quite a bit as companies hosting them tend to get rather large amounts of hate mail... From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 14:51:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C73816A4CE for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:51:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp7.wanadoo.fr (smtp7.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7DB43D45 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:51:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0708.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D2F2B1C0009E for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:51:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0708.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B95E41C000AE for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:51:47 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050404145147759.B95E41C000AE@mwinf0708.wanadoo.fr Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:51:47 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1399217334.20050404165147@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <20050330172621.8144.qmail@web60407.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:31:50 +0000 Subject: Re: A good laugh for FBSD people (I hope) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 14:51:49 -0000 Sander Vesik writes: > It is a very well known satire site that makes fun of certain other, > dead serious fundamentalist christian and creatonist websites. They > have been moving around quite a bit as companies hosting them tend to > get rather large amounts of hate mail... Where on the site is it made clear that it's all satire? I couldn't find any notice to that effect, and I know that there are lots of crazy people out there. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 16:36:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4896616A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:36:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51803.mail.yahoo.com (web51803.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B65BD43D49 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:36:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from acruizu8-freebsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 2781 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Apr 2005 16:36:26 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=CYjVYCY9evg6AzAxYX4zWXYdslXfjUxlTnikQVUH+Gu+rWSGmhom5KhNPaHXlFpA1XG82a1EC0B1yF4gE29OA6o4djnsPRi8siOJLvzjkt9MBN1PoJj1Gl6snCCQHgA4X8zUG0dne0kJrtcu45qjrLHIfqh1cbR/kL2Goa657Qg= ; Message-ID: <20050405163626.2779.qmail@web51803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.85.170.62] by web51803.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:36:25 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:36:25 -0700 (PDT) From: To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: freebsd-advocacy Digest, Vol 96, Issue 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: acruizu8-freebsd@yahoo.com List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:36:27 -0000 Hello, I would like to find information or some kind of bussiness case that explains why is better FreeBSD over Linux. Somebody know about this kind of information? Thanks for help, Allan Ruiz From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 18:36:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B6D16A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:36:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADECA43D54 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:36:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20050405183622i9100air41e>; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:36:24 +0000 Message-ID: <4252DAA3.5000007@nbritton.org> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:36:19 -0500 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050324) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Julian H. Stacey" References: <200503291313.j2TDDfti010099@fire.jhs.private> In-Reply-To: <200503291313.j2TDDfti010099@fire.jhs.private> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cool, Matt! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:36:25 -0000 Julian H. Stacey wrote: >[ resent after bounce ] > > > >>From: "Michael W. Oliver" >> >> > > > >>Actually, Matt was on TSS twice "representing" FreeBSD, once with Murray >>in the "FreeBSD vs. Linux" show, and a second time with Brooks >>discussing FreeBSD clustering. >> >> > >I went hunting for the clustering one - No luck: > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Tech+TV+FreeBSD+clustering+.avi&btnG=Search > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-advocacy/2005-January/001585.html > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-advocacy/attachments/20050123/a43b8a77/techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi.obj > Fails: http://freebsd0.sitetronics.com/~eanderson/ > ftp://jarjar.ijs.si/pub/video just has the V. Linux ones >Anyone have a good URL ? > >PS If anyone's looking for the FreeBSD V. Linux one: > ftp://ftp2.si.freebsd.org/pub/video/ > 93419520 Sep 8 2003 freebsd_vs_linux-techtv_20030902-edited.avi > 276869120 Sep 8 2003 freebsd_vs_linux_shootout-techtv-20030902.avi > > > I have a copy of both, you can find the cluster one here http://www.nbritton.org/uploads/.... please be gentle, maybe someone should put theses on the FreeBSD FTP server/mirrors???... it's 13:35CST now and the ETA for the file to finish uploading is 1hour. How to Build a Beowulf Cluster; Matt Olander, Brooks Davis: techtv-divx.avi (168MB) FreeBSD vs Linux Shootout; Murray Stokely, Matt Olander, BSD Masot, Don Marti: freebsd_vs_linux-techtv_20030902-edited.avi (89MB) From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 18:42:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A3116A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:42:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.golden.net (smtp.golden.net [199.166.210.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0FE743D31 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:42:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gldisater@gto.net) Received: from 180-77.speede.golden.net ([216.75.180.77]) by smtp.golden.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1DIt0O-0008lG-Hz; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:42:28 -0400 Message-ID: <4252DC1D.50409@gto.net> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:42:37 -0400 From: Jeremy Faulkner User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Julian H. Stacey" References: <200503291313.j2TDDfti010099@fire.jhs.private> In-Reply-To: <200503291313.j2TDDfti010099@fire.jhs.private> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080608000101020703070407" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cool, Matt! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:42:30 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080608000101020703070407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Julian H. Stacey wrote: > [ resent after bounce ] > > >>From: "Michael W. Oliver" > > >>Actually, Matt was on TSS twice "representing" FreeBSD, once with Murray >>in the "FreeBSD vs. Linux" show, and a second time with Brooks >>discussing FreeBSD clustering. > > > I went hunting for the clustering one - No luck: > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Tech+TV+FreeBSD+clustering+.avi&btnG=Search > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-advocacy/2005-January/001585.html > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-advocacy/attachments/20050123/a43b8a77/techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi.obj > Fails: http://freebsd0.sitetronics.com/~eanderson/ > ftp://jarjar.ijs.si/pub/video just has the V. Linux ones > Anyone have a good URL ? > Torrent file attached. -- Jeremy Faulkner --------------080608000101020703070407-- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 19:06:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDB816A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:06:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EE143D49 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:06:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050405190652i92005b1fge>; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:06:53 +0000 Message-ID: <4252E1CD.6090706@nbritton.org> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:06:53 -0500 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050324) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikolas Britton References: <200503291313.j2TDDfti010099@fire.jhs.private> <4252DAA3.5000007@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <4252DAA3.5000007@nbritton.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "Julian H. Stacey" cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cool, Matt! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:06:58 -0000 Nikolas Britton wrote: > Julian H. Stacey wrote: > >> [ resent after bounce ] >> >> >> >>> From: "Michael W. Oliver" >>> >> >> >> >> >>> Actually, Matt was on TSS twice "representing" FreeBSD, once with >>> Murray >>> in the "FreeBSD vs. Linux" show, and a second time with Brooks >>> discussing FreeBSD clustering. >>> >> >> >> I went hunting for the clustering one - No luck: >> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Tech+TV+FreeBSD+clustering+.avi&btnG=Search >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-advocacy/2005-January/001585.html >> >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-advocacy/attachments/20050123/a43b8a77/techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi.obj >> >> Fails: http://freebsd0.sitetronics.com/~eanderson/ >> ftp://jarjar.ijs.si/pub/video just has the V. Linux ones >> Anyone have a good URL ? >> >> PS If anyone's looking for the FreeBSD V. Linux one: >> ftp://ftp2.si.freebsd.org/pub/video/ >> 93419520 Sep 8 2003 freebsd_vs_linux-techtv_20030902-edited.avi >> 276869120 Sep 8 2003 >> freebsd_vs_linux_shootout-techtv-20030902.avi >> >> >> > I have a copy of both, you can find the cluster one here > http://www.nbritton.org/uploads/.... please be gentle, maybe someone > should put theses on the FreeBSD FTP server/mirrors???... it's > 13:35CST now and the ETA for the file to finish uploading is 1hour. > > How to Build a Beowulf Cluster; Matt Olander, Brooks Davis: > techtv-divx.avi (168MB) > > FreeBSD vs Linux Shootout; Murray Stokely, Matt Olander, BSD Masot, > Don Marti: > freebsd_vs_linux-techtv_20030902-edited.avi (89MB) > Ok that didn't work (upload failed)... I'll have to get back to you later, I'm buzzy the rest of the day. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 19:08:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0CB16A4CE; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:08:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smp500.sitetronics.com (sitetronics.com [82.192.77.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23A843D1F; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:08:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dodell@offmyserver.com) Received: from localhost.sitetronics.com ([127.0.0.1] helo=smp500.sitetronics.com) by smp500.sitetronics.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DItNw-000JIn-VP; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:06:49 +0200 Received: (from dodell@localhost) by smp500.sitetronics.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j35J6mBt074200; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 21:06:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dodell@offmyserver.com) X-Authentication-Warning: smp500.sitetronics.com: dodell set sender to dodell@offmyserver.com using -f Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 21:06:48 +0200 From: "Devon H. O'Dell " To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, advocacy@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050405190648.GX43436@smp500.sitetronics.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, advocacy@freebsd.org References: <200503291313.j2TDDfti010099@fire.jhs.private> <4252DAA3.5000007@nbritton.org> <4252E1CD.6090706@nbritton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qZTZQd/MRfnLEAAX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4252E1CD.6090706@nbritton.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i Subject: Re: Cool, Matt! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:08:43 -0000 --qZTZQd/MRfnLEAAX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 02:06:53PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: > >I have a copy of both, you can find the cluster one here=20 > >http://www.nbritton.org/uploads/.... please be gentle, maybe someone=20 > >should put theses on the FreeBSD FTP server/mirrors???... it's=20 > >13:35CST now and the ETA for the file to finish uploading is 1hour. > > > >How to Build a Beowulf Cluster; Matt Olander, Brooks Davis: > >techtv-divx.avi (168MB) > > > >FreeBSD vs Linux Shootout; Murray Stokely, Matt Olander, BSD Masot,=20 > >Don Marti: > >freebsd_vs_linux-techtv_20030902-edited.avi (89MB) > > > Ok that didn't work (upload failed)... I'll have to get back to you=20 > later, I'm buzzy the rest of the day. I provided the original mirrors for both of these. I will be receiving the hard drive within the next week or two. When I get it, I will place them up again. --Devon --qZTZQd/MRfnLEAAX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCUuHISkf3jVXOdl0RApLeAJ9emOtei3Oa1AfGPBLwN+Ddl0abTwCfUGT3 BPq2qLksp44AbfK+kpn/5Vg= =jXG3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qZTZQd/MRfnLEAAX-- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 19:08:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0CB16A4CE; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:08:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smp500.sitetronics.com (sitetronics.com [82.192.77.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23A843D1F; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:08:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dodell@offmyserver.com) Received: from localhost.sitetronics.com ([127.0.0.1] helo=smp500.sitetronics.com) by smp500.sitetronics.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DItNw-000JIn-VP; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:06:49 +0200 Received: (from dodell@localhost) by smp500.sitetronics.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j35J6mBt074200; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 21:06:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dodell@offmyserver.com) X-Authentication-Warning: smp500.sitetronics.com: dodell set sender to dodell@offmyserver.com using -f Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 21:06:48 +0200 From: "Devon H. O'Dell " To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, advocacy@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050405190648.GX43436@smp500.sitetronics.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, advocacy@freebsd.org References: <200503291313.j2TDDfti010099@fire.jhs.private> <4252DAA3.5000007@nbritton.org> <4252E1CD.6090706@nbritton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qZTZQd/MRfnLEAAX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4252E1CD.6090706@nbritton.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i Subject: Re: Cool, Matt! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:08:43 -0000 --qZTZQd/MRfnLEAAX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 02:06:53PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: > >I have a copy of both, you can find the cluster one here=20 > >http://www.nbritton.org/uploads/.... please be gentle, maybe someone=20 > >should put theses on the FreeBSD FTP server/mirrors???... it's=20 > >13:35CST now and the ETA for the file to finish uploading is 1hour. > > > >How to Build a Beowulf Cluster; Matt Olander, Brooks Davis: > >techtv-divx.avi (168MB) > > > >FreeBSD vs Linux Shootout; Murray Stokely, Matt Olander, BSD Masot,=20 > >Don Marti: > >freebsd_vs_linux-techtv_20030902-edited.avi (89MB) > > > Ok that didn't work (upload failed)... I'll have to get back to you=20 > later, I'm buzzy the rest of the day. I provided the original mirrors for both of these. I will be receiving the hard drive within the next week or two. When I get it, I will place them up again. --Devon --qZTZQd/MRfnLEAAX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCUuHISkf3jVXOdl0RApLeAJ9emOtei3Oa1AfGPBLwN+Ddl0abTwCfUGT3 BPq2qLksp44AbfK+kpn/5Vg= =jXG3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qZTZQd/MRfnLEAAX-- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 19:45:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1D016A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:45:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF2B43D3F for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:45:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bulk_mail@siegel-tech.net) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (63-225-97-116.dnvr.qwest.net[63.225.97.116]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20050405194547013009g18fe>; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:45:47 +0000 From: Aaron Siegel To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:46:48 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504051346.48986.bulk_mail@siegel-tech.net> Subject: Fund Raiser X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: aj@siegel-tech.net List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:45:50 -0000 Hello According to netcraft there are 2.5 million webservers are running FreeBSD, http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/06/07/nearly_25_million_active_sites_running_freebsd.html If each one of these sites gave a dollar each year that could fund a lot development. My thought was to create a mechanism, that allow users to pledge a certain amount of money for each time they access cvsup. This would be completely voluntary, of course. For example someone could pledge a dollar for a cvsup a copy of the src and 50 cents for ports. Each year or quarter the user will receive a summary of their cvs usage and the user will have the option of paying that amount or more or less, what ever they can afford at the time. It is more active method of seeking donations. Once the donation start coming in it can be reversed, to provide rewards for contribution to FreeBSD to reward the developers. The funds may help pay developers to task that need to be done but may require a little incentive to get them done. These is just an idea I have been pondering, I have not figured out how to implement it or how to deal with the politics. Aaron Siegel From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 19:57:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A7016A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:57:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from green.dls.net (green.dls.net [209.242.20.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8946D43D5D for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:57:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emailrob@emailrob.com) Received: from emailrob.com (029-dls801.dls.net [216.145.235.29]) by green.dls.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A91411AB5 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:57:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4252DFC2.4020501@emailrob.com> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:58:10 -0500 From: rob_spellberg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fbsd_advocacy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: a conservative encourages marketing beastie to conservatives X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:57:37 -0000 abstract: beastie is neither Good nor Evil; Good and Evil are determined by the human who commands the daemons. two points are made that have been found to be useful in persuading the suspicious of his potential for Goodness. humor is used to "punch up" an otherwise droll post. the author concludes that the use of beastie should be increased. greetings --- i've been very busy these past few months, so i am only just now finding time to weigh in on the "beastie discussion", raging, lo, these many years, most recently in february and, again, last week. by way of background, i am fifty years of age and a retired electrical engineer. i am a jew and i am mostly conservative, with a dash of "small_l" libertarianism for flavor. in general, i am somewhere to the right of rush limbaugh. i was a liberal through the end of high_school. two years of work before university showed me the "real world" and caused me to question the Goodness of american liberalism. i have been subscribed to -advocacy and -chat for some years and i am an infrequent poster. i strongly suspect that it is precisely because i am not a christian that i don't have any moral problem with beastie. however, in my "missionary" work to persuade people to undergo a nearly_full religious conversion from redmond to berkeley [ "you don't have to get rid of --ALL-- of your redmond platforms, it's ok to keep one in the corner, just in case you really need it." ], i have encountered people who are concerned about beastie and that whole "demon in a box" thing. in these situations, i have found it helpful to relate two stories. first, as many readers are aware, we jews make A Really Big Deal out of remembering our residency in egypt some 3300 years ago. at that time, the industry of technology was in its infancy. iirc, according to the famous charlton heston movie, "the ten commandments". http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049833/ the wheel and the lever were known and there was some knowledge of metallurgy [ stone_cutting tools ], but not much else. public_works projects were, as a result, labor_intensive. the nascent curriculum of labor_relations_management reduced to one rule: "me master, you slave". the pharoahs and their allied aristocracy were very wealthy. consequently, their productivity was high because they had many slaves working in parallel toward project completion. unfortunately, over time, the labor_relations dweebs discovered that slavery had "issues". beasts_of_burden were easy to control, but humans were more difficult [ "i just don't get it, ramses. we give the hebrews everything they need: food, shelter and a job. we relieve them of the responsibility of providing for themselves. why don't they realize how good they have it? where's my concubine?" ]. it's that whole "brains" thing. thanks to the march of technological innovation, it is no longer necessary to use humans and other animals to perform acts of drudgery. we invent machines, like the pickup_truck and the back_hoe and, dare i say it, the embedded_microcontroller. in the best case, we invent devices to be used in dangerous situations. point one: if the Eternal One had not meant for we humans to improve the condition of the earthly existence of ourselves and the other animals, He wouldn't have given us the brains we need to invent machines that relieve us of drudgery and danger. second, i relate the now legendary anecdote about the epiphany of the famous actor, ron silver, http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0798779/ http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0798779/bio which occured at the first clinton inaugural [ he had a second one after 2001_sep_11_tue, but that's not important in this discussion ]. this story is frequently told by rush limbaugh on his justly famous radio experience, so it is very familiar to conservatives you meet. this permits you, the salesman, to establish a bond with your potential customer that comes from the concept of "shared experience" [ "this salesman is familiar with concepts with which i am familiar. i am a Good Person. therefore, this salesman is also a Good Person. this salesman believes in his Product. therefore, --i-- believe in his Product. where's my plastic?" ]. this is the story you tell to close the deal. it is told in the Book of Limbaugh that at the 1993 inaugural, as part of the ceremonies, a formation of fighter jets flew overhead [ somewhere; different tellings use different locations in d. c. ]. mr. silver, a --FLAMING-- liberal [ still is, mostly ], was positively incensed at this blatant show of unbridled militarism. [ readers will recall that the previous dozen years were those of the reagan and bush_41 administrations. this should put his mindset in perspective. ] at this point, there are two versions of the story. one is that his recognition_of_fundamental_truth occured wholly within his own brain, by his own thoughts. the version rush tells has an unknown person next to him responding to his verbalized complaint, saying "but, ron, those are --OUR-- planes, now" [ google: ron silver our planes ]. one can visualize the pleased look of "aha!" on his face. when the planes were at the command of the Evil reagan and the Evil bush_41, they were Evil, part of the Forces_of_Darkness. commanded by the Good hillary, through bill, the instrument of her Goodness, these were now the forces of Goodness and Light and Righteousness. point two: those are --our-- demons, now. berkeley daemons [ as opposed to "demons" in general ] are our slaves [ because they are not animate, this form of slavery is moral ]. they exist to relieve us of the drudgery of performing highly_useful, but routine, duties, such as swapping pages or receiving spam. inherently, they are neither Good nor Evil. they act at the will of the human who controls them. if the human is Good, then the daemons are Good. if any particular human has concerns about any particular daemon, that human need not start that daemon. can any of us say the same about the redmond platform? just --what-- is it doing in there? it is precisely because i --don't-- know what's going on inside that causes me to believe that bill gates is the "spawn of satan's strumpet". not only should we keep beastie, we should flaunt him. he is the very symbol of the enlightenment of mankind. life is short; be eccentric. rob From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 22:05:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83DDF16A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:05:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.golden.net (smtp.golden.net [199.166.210.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAE743D31 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:05:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gldisater@gto.net) Received: from 180-77.speede.golden.net ([216.75.180.77]) by smtp.golden.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1DIwAr-0006lg-PZ; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:05:29 -0400 Message-ID: <42530BB3.4080903@gto.net> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:05:39 -0400 From: Jeremy Faulkner User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Julian H. Stacey" References: <200503291313.j2TDDfti010099@fire.jhs.private> <4252DC1D.50409@gto.net> In-Reply-To: <4252DC1D.50409@gto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cool, Matt! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:05:31 -0000 Jeremy Faulkner wrote: > Julian H. Stacey wrote: > >> [ resent after bounce ] >> >> >>> From: "Michael W. Oliver" >> >> >> >>> Actually, Matt was on TSS twice "representing" FreeBSD, once with Murray >>> in the "FreeBSD vs. Linux" show, and a second time with Brooks >>> discussing FreeBSD clustering. >> >> >> >> I went hunting for the clustering one - No luck: >> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Tech+TV+FreeBSD+clustering+.avi&btnG=Search >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-advocacy/2005-January/001585.html >> >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-advocacy/attachments/20050123/a43b8a77/techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi.obj >> >> Fails: http://freebsd0.sitetronics.com/~eanderson/ >> ftp://jarjar.ijs.si/pub/video just has the V. Linux ones >> Anyone have a good URL ? >> > > Torrent file attached. > Or not. http://home.golden.net/~rcent/techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi.torrent -- Jeremy Faulkner From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 22:54:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA7016A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:54:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tower.berklix.org (bsd.bsn.com [194.221.32.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CB643D2D for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:54:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A4369.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.67.105]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j35Msp8o030568; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 00:54:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (fire.jhs.private [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j35LvFbY004840; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:57:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.jhs.private (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j35LvFmQ012656; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:57:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200504052157.j35LvFmQ012656@fire.jhs.private> To: aj@siegel-tech.net In-Reply-To: Message from Aaron Siegel <200504051346.48986.bulk_mail@siegel-tech.net> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 23:57:15 +0200 From: "Julian H. Stacey" cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fund Raiser X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:54:58 -0000 Aaron Siegel wrote: > Hello > > According to netcraft there are 2.5 million webservers are running FreeBSD, > http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/06/07/nearly_25_million_active_sites_running_freebsd.html > If each one of these sites gave a dollar each year that could fund a lot Before this list degenerates ito compete noise & no signal again (eg Spelberg's "a conservative encourages" & Atkielski floggy of the dead horse called "Satire" etc) ... I suggest before everyone chews the fat on this latest `bright idea', & flies off at wild tangents, as seems likely, That we hold off long enough for aj@siegel-tech.net to contact the FreeBSD Foundation privately, & then report back to list: A) if they even particularly need any money at present, B) if they think aj@'s ideas are something they'd be prepared to work with If the foundation happen to say no to either, it'll save us all a load more debate. (& if yes, then OK, I suppose debate & implement etc) - Julian Stacey Net & Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Mail in Ascii (Html=Spam). Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 17:46:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF7116A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 17:46:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255A043D31 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 17:46:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EB2CC1C000B6 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:46:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D19D81C0008A for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:46:46 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050405174646858.D19D81C0008A@mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:46:46 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1797875181.20050405194646@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050405163626.2779.qmail@web51803.mail.yahoo.com> References: 6667 <20050405163626.2779.qmail@web51803.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 15:20:48 +0000 Subject: Re: freebsd-advocacy Digest, Vol 96, Issue 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:46:48 -0000 acruizu8-freebsd@yahoo.com writes: > I would like to find information or some kind of bussiness case > that explains why is better FreeBSD over Linux. Somebody know about > this kind of information? In what context? FreeBSD is surely a better server; I don't know that it's a better desktop (Linux fans place far more emphasis on the desktop than do FreeBSD fans). -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 6 18:52:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC2A16A4E9 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 18:52:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E779E43D3F for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 18:52:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050406185241i92005bifge>; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 18:52:42 +0000 Message-ID: <42542FFA.7070007@nbritton.org> Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 13:52:42 -0500 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050324) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikolas Britton References: <200503291313.j2TDDfti010099@fire.jhs.private> <4252DAA3.5000007@nbritton.org> <4252E1CD.6090706@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <4252E1CD.6090706@nbritton.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "Julian H. Stacey" cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cool, Matt! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:52:45 -0000 Nikolas Britton wrote: > Nikolas Britton wrote: > > >> I have a copy of both, you can find the cluster one here >> http://www.nbritton.org/uploads/.... please be gentle, maybe someone >> should put theses on the FreeBSD FTP server/mirrors???... it's >> 13:35CST now and the ETA for the file to finish uploading is 1hour. >> >> How to Build a Beowulf Cluster; Matt Olander, Brooks Davis: >> techtv-divx.avi (168MB) >> >> FreeBSD vs Linux Shootout; Murray Stokely, Matt Olander, BSD Masot, >> Don Marti: >> freebsd_vs_linux-techtv_20030902-edited.avi (89MB) >> > Ok that didn't work (upload failed)... I'll have to get back to you > later, I'm buzzy the rest of the day. > It's Later... Use the torrent that was posted earlier, I'm helping to seed that... How to Build a Beowulf Cluster; Matt Olander, Brooks Davis: techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi (168MB): http://home.golden.net/~rcent/techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi.torrent anyways... From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 6 19:14:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0686D16A4CE for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:14:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm25.prodigy.net (ylpvm25-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4F443D3F for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:14:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@sbcglobal.net) Received: from [66.126.3.137] (adsl-66-126-3-137.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [66.126.3.137]) (authenticated bits=0)j36JELv0017738 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:14:22 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <6E97791B-A6D0-11D9-9F2A-000393DBD57E@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org From: Paul Samarin Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:16:52 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: Laterals Available X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 19:14:25 -0000 Do you still have lateral files available? I'm looking for the following in good condition, in Orange County, CA: 3 x 36" 3-drawer Meridians (maybe 4x, certainly 4x if 30"/ea) 3 x 36" 5 drawer Meridians Thank you! Paul Samarin From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 6 23:58:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D1116A4CE for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:58:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tower.berklix.org (bsd.bsn.com [194.221.32.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD1F43D1D for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:58:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A793A.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.121.58]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j36NwC8o033937 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 01:58:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (fire.jhs.private [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j36N0p4u002521 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 01:00:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.jhs.private (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j36N0pOL017514 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 01:00:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200504062300.j36N0pOL017514@fire.jhs.private> To: advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message from Nikolas Britton of "Wed, 06 Apr 2005 13:52:42 CDT." <42542FFA.7070007@nbritton.org> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 01:00:51 +0200 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Subject: Re: Cool, Matt! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:58:17 -0000 Thanks to Nikolas Britton (his http://www.nbritton.org/uploads/ is not readable BTW, probably deliberately to save read load ) Thanks to those who setup torrent stuff. I'm new to torrent, so for anyone else who may be too, this is what I did: ftp http://home.golden.net/~rcent/techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi.torrent cd /usr/ports/net/ ; echo *torrent* ctorrent py-bittorrent py-bittorrent-core py-shadow-bittorrent py-shadow-bittorrent-core qtorrent torrentsniff cd ctorrent ; make install ; rehash ; cd ~/tmp ; ctorrent techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi.torrent I immediately got a 176M file (obviously just an empy lseek created thing, to be filled later). Over an hour later, du still showed no progress, at Thu Apr 7 01:47:18 CEST 2005 (CEST = Greenwich +01:00) & I still had META INFO Announce: http://www.owntracker.com/pqrt/announce.php Create On: Tue Apr 5 20:39:23 2005 Piece length: 262144 FILES INFO <1> techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi [176344994] Total: 168 MB Already/Total: 0/673 Listen on: 2706 \ 2,[9/673/673],653,2931 | 0,0 E:0 Failure! Was it just that no servers were up running ? (I ran it on an external host, to avoid firewall obstruction). - Julian Stacey Net & Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Mail in Ascii (Html=Spam). Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 7 20:41:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F9A16A4CE for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:41:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A8943D4C for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:41:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 7 Apr 2005 15:38:55 -0500 Message-ID: <42559AD6.4020305@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:40:54 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Julian H. Stacey" References: <200504062300.j36N0pOL017514@fire.jhs.private> In-Reply-To: <200504062300.j36N0pOL017514@fire.jhs.private> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2005 20:38:57.0680 (UTC) FILETIME=[D2804900:01C53BB1] cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cool, Matt! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:41:02 -0000 Julian H. Stacey wrote: >Thanks to Nikolas Britton (his http://www.nbritton.org/uploads/ is not > readable BTW, probably deliberately to save read load ) >Thanks to those who setup torrent stuff. I'm new to torrent, so >for anyone else who may be too, this is what I did: > ftp http://home.golden.net/~rcent/techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi.torrent > cd /usr/ports/net/ ; echo *torrent* > ctorrent py-bittorrent py-bittorrent-core py-shadow-bittorrent > py-shadow-bittorrent-core qtorrent torrentsniff > cd ctorrent ; make install ; rehash ; > cd ~/tmp ; ctorrent techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi.torrent >I immediately got a 176M file (obviously just an empy lseek created >thing, to be filled later). Over an hour later, du still showed >no progress, at Thu Apr 7 01:47:18 CEST 2005 (CEST = Greenwich >+01:00) & I still had > META INFO > Announce: http://www.owntracker.com/pqrt/announce.php > Create On: Tue Apr 5 20:39:23 2005 > Piece length: 262144 > > FILES INFO > <1> techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi [176344994] > Total: 168 MB > > Already/Total: 0/673 > Listen on: 2706 > \ 2,[9/673/673],653,2931 | 0,0 E:0 >Failure! Was it just that no servers were up running ? >(I ran it on an external host, to avoid firewall obstruction). >- >Julian Stacey Net & Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com >Mail in Ascii (Html=Spam). Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. >_______________________________________________ > > I've transcribed the dialogue to ASCII: http://daleco.biz/cluster.txt My own copy is *mpg, nearly 900 MB, and not currently on any server of mine; getting it up to one from home would be a week long process, too, I'd expect.... Kevin D. Kinsey From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 02:20:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD42D16A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 02:20:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7462543D4C for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 02:20:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j382K8II087980 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 02:20:08 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j382K8w0087979; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 02:20:08 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 02:20:08 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200504080220.j382K8w0087979@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, "Josh Paetzel" Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1ACF16A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 02:10:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3549F43D39 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 02:10:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from twinmp.tcbug.org (12-218-21-193.client.mchsi.com[12.218.21.193]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20050408021006m9100pvejke>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 02:10:06 +0000 Message-Id: <1112926206.0@twinmp.tcbug.org> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 21:10:06 -0500 From: "Josh Paetzel" To: "FreeBSD gnats submit" X-Send-Pr-Version: gtk-send-pr 0.4.4 Subject: advocacy/79662: Add in a vendor to the list of CDROM and DVD Publishers X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 02:20:08 -0000 >Number: 79662 >Category: advocacy >Synopsis: Add in a vendor to the list of CDROM and DVD Publishers >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-advocacy >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Apr 08 02:20:08 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Josh Paetzel >Release: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p8 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p8 #2: Wed Apr 6 18:08:11 CDT 2005 jpaetzel@twinmp.tcbug.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TWINMP >Description: A New Zealand vendor asked to be included in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: Apply the following patch: --- chapter.sgml.old Thu Apr 7 20:47:52 2005 +++ chapter.sgml Thu Apr 7 21:07:03 2005 @@ -127,6 +127,18 @@ WWW: + + +
+ Linux CD Mall + Private Bag MBE N348 + Auckland 1030 + New Zealand + Phone: +64 21 866529 + WWW: +
+
>Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 02:22:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED0D16A4CE; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 02:22:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA6B43D53; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 02:22:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from twinmp (12-218-21-193.client.mchsi.com[12.218.21.193]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with ESMTP id <20050408022250m9200gctl1e>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 02:22:50 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 21:22:50 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200504080220.j382K81G087972@freefall.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200504080220.j382K81G087972@freefall.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504072122.50236.josh@tcbug.org> Subject: Re: advocacy/79662: Add in a vendor to the list of CDROM and DVD Publishers X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 02:22:51 -0000 On Thursday 07 April 2005 21:20, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Thank you very much for your problem report. > It has the internal identification `advocacy/79662'. > The individual assigned to look at your > report is: freebsd-advocacy. > > You can access the state of your problem report at any time > via this link: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=79662 > > >Category: advocacy > >Responsible: freebsd-advocacy > >Synopsis: Add in a vendor to the list of CDROM and DVD > > Publishers Arrival-Date: Fri Apr 08 02:20:08 GMT 2005 ACK! This should have gone to doc/xxxxx instead of advocacy. How do I fix it? -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 02:30:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4ABA16A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 02:30:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A3643D2D for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 02:30:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j382UBlw088345 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 02:30:11 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j382UB6o088344; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 02:30:11 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 02:30:11 GMT Message-Id: <200504080230.j382UB6o088344@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org From: Josh Paetzel Subject: Re: advocacy/79662: Add in a vendor to the list of CDROM and DVD Publishers X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josh Paetzel List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 02:30:11 -0000 The following reply was made to PR advocacy/79662; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Josh Paetzel To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: advocacy/79662: Add in a vendor to the list of CDROM and DVD Publishers Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 21:22:50 -0500 On Thursday 07 April 2005 21:20, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Thank you very much for your problem report. > It has the internal identification `advocacy/79662'. > The individual assigned to look at your > report is: freebsd-advocacy. > > You can access the state of your problem report at any time > via this link: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=79662 > > >Category: advocacy > >Responsible: freebsd-advocacy > >Synopsis: Add in a vendor to the list of CDROM and DVD > > Publishers Arrival-Date: Fri Apr 08 02:20:08 GMT 2005 ACK! This should have gone to doc/xxxxx instead of advocacy. How do I fix it? -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 03:11:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B41A16A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 03:11:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DBE43D39 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 03:11:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from twinmp (12-218-21-193.client.mchsi.com[12.218.21.193]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with ESMTP id <20050408031158m9100pv7c6e>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 03:11:58 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:11:58 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504072211.58526.josh@tcbug.org> Subject: Mistake in sending a PR X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 03:11:59 -0000 I mistakenly sent advocacy/79662 when I wanted it to go to doc/xxxxx Please close this out and beat me with canes off-list. :) -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 12:34:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1B616A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:34:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tower.berklix.org (bsd.bsn.com [194.221.32.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291F343D41 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:34:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A625C.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.98.92]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j38CYU8o039954; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:34:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (fire.jhs.private [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38CYSBM002070; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:34:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.jhs.private (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j38CYSMo016602; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:34:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200504081234.j38CYSMo016602@fire.jhs.private> To: Kevin Kinsey In-Reply-To: Message from Kevin Kinsey of "Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:40:54 CDT." <42559AD6.4020305@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:34:28 +0200 From: "Julian H. Stacey" cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cool, Matt! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:34:41 -0000 > I've transcribed the dialogue to ASCII: > http://daleco.biz/cluster.txt Thanks. I've grabbed that. Has anyone tried torrent down loading ? & been succesful ? Mine was stuck at 2 meg last 5 hours so I killed it - Again ! - Julian Stacey Net & Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Mail in Ascii (Html=Spam). Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 13:01:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D1F16A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:01:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail2.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at (mail2.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at [140.78.3.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA88B43D1D for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:01:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harald.wille@students.jku.at) Received: from email.uni-linz.ac.at (boba.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at [140.78.3.67]) j38D0vCQ062458; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:00:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from harald.wille@students.jku.at) Received: from heim-034-71.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at (heim-034-71.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at [193.171.34.71]) by email.uni-linz.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B64A56494; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:00:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (193.171.34.71) by gwavraab.uni-linz.ac.at via smtp id 789b_23f8b3b0_a82e_11d9_9697_001143d314e3; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:00:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from heim-034-71.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j38D0hF6003978; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:00:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from iqd@heim-034-71.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) Received: (from iqd@localhost)j38D0hoK003977; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:00:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from iqd) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:00:43 +0200 From: Wille Harald To: "Julian H. Stacey" Message-ID: <20050408130043.GA3703@heim-034-71.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at> References: <42559AD6.4020305@daleco.biz> <200504081234.j38CYSMo016602@fire.jhs.private> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504081234.j38CYSMo016602@fire.jhs.private> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-wipe-MailScanner-Information: Please contact www.wipe.at for more information X-wipe-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-wipe-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.793, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -3.30, AWL 0.11, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MailScanner-From: iqd@heim-034-71.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cool, Matt! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:01:18 -0000 > Has anyone tried torrent down loading ? & been succesful ? > Mine was stuck at 2 meg last 5 hours so I killed it - Again ! > I succesfully downloaded it using ctorrent. Just startet seeding for other 72 hours. Good luck - again :) From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 13:37:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4683616A4CE; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:37:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A39843D1F; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:37:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (jhb@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j38Dbpg6014644; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:37:51 GMT (envelope-from jhb@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j38DbpBS014640; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:37:51 GMT (envelope-from jhb) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:37:51 GMT From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200504081337.j38DbpBS014640@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jhb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/79662: Add in a vendor to the list of CDROM and DVD Publishers X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:37:52 -0000 Synopsis: Add in a vendor to the list of CDROM and DVD Publishers Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-advocacy->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: jhb Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Apr 8 13:37:13 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: Fix category. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=79662 From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 14:37:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F06416A4D1 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:37:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tower.berklix.org (bsd.bsn.com [194.221.32.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F7743D2D for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:37:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A4EE5.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.78.229]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j38Ebm8o040214; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:37:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (fire.jhs.private [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38EbkZI002544; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:37:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.jhs.private (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j38Ebk7E022457; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:37:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200504081437.j38Ebk7E022457@fire.jhs.private> To: Wille Harald From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com/~jhs/ Munich Unix, BSD, Internet User-agent: EXMH http://beedub.com/exmh/ on FreeBSD http://freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:00:43 +0200." <20050408130043.GA3703@heim-034-71.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 16:37:46 +0200 Sender: jhs@flat.berklix.net cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cool, Matt! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:37:53 -0000 Reference: > From: Wille Harald > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:00:43 +0200 > Message-id: <20050408130043.GA3703@heim-034-71.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at> Wille Harald wrote: > > Has anyone tried torrent down loading ? & been succesful ? > > Mine was stuck at 2 meg last 5 hours so I killed it - Again ! > > I succesfully downloaded it using ctorrent. > Just startet seeding for other 72 hours. > Good luck - again :) Thanks. I started again, & from a 2nd different site too. (to test in case throttled at 1st site) Crawling slow at both sites. I ran it with a simple: ctorrent techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi.torrent & got this META INFO Announce: http://www.owntracker.com/pqrt/announce.php Create On: Tue Apr 5 20:39:23 2005 Piece length: 262144 FILES INFO <1> techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi [176344994] Total: 168 MB Check exist: 672/673 Complete Already/Total: 9/673 Listen on: 2706 | 4,[9/673/673],0,0 | 0,0 E:0 I found this explains the above http://ctorrent.sourceforge.net/?action=faq&id=7 Somewhere I read of leach mode penalisation, I havent turned on anything to enable leach mode though. If your .torrent file is still handy, could you md5 it please, & if it's not same as mine mail me a copy please ? Maybe mine is corrupted ? MD5 (techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi.torrent) = a1a4e1ba9e18e527555adad8b198c498 - Julian Stacey Net & Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Mail in Ascii (Html=Spam). Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 15:39:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E543116A4EB for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:39:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail2.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at (mail2.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at [140.78.3.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B4D43D48 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:39:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harald.wille@students.jku.at) Received: from email.uni-linz.ac.at (boba.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at [140.78.3.67]) j38FcpCQ095112; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:38:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from harald.wille@students.jku.at) Received: from heim-034-71.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at (heim-034-71.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at [193.171.34.71]) by email.uni-linz.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D4456463; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:38:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (193.171.34.71) by gwavraab.uni-linz.ac.at via smtp id 7c96_32e82fca_a844_11d9_82b7_001143d314e3; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 17:38:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from heim-034-71.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j38Fcc4x007185; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:38:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from iqd@heim-034-71.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) Received: (from iqd@localhost)j38Fccin007184; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:38:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from iqd) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:38:38 +0200 From: Wille Harald To: Julian Stacey Message-ID: <20050408153838.GA7074@heim-034-71.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at> References: <20050408130043.GA3703@heim-034-71.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at> <200504081437.j38Ebk7E022457@fire.jhs.private> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504081437.j38Ebk7E022457@fire.jhs.private> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-wipe-MailScanner-Information: Please contact www.wipe.at for more information X-wipe-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-wipe-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.78, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -3.30, AWL 0.09, BAYES_00 -2.60, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP 0.03) X-MailScanner-From: iqd@heim-034-71.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cool, Matt! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:39:09 -0000 > Thanks. I started again, & from a 2nd different site too. (to > test in case throttled at 1st site) Crawling slow at both sites. > I ran it with a simple: > ctorrent techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi.torrent > & got this > META INFO > Announce: http://www.owntracker.com/pqrt/announce.php > Create On: Tue Apr 5 20:39:23 2005 > Piece length: 262144 > FILES INFO > <1> techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi [176344994] > Total: 168 MB > Check exist: 672/673 Complete > Already/Total: 9/673 > Listen on: 2706 > | 4,[9/673/673],0,0 | 0,0 E:0 > I found this explains the above > http://ctorrent.sourceforge.net/?action=faq&id=7 > Somewhere I read of leach mode penalisation, > I havent turned on anything to enable leach mode though. > 4 people shared the file at this moment, what should be enough. ctorrent hasn't a "leach" mode (i think you mean leech mode). When you are downloading from a peer, you are also uploading (sharing) the file and you become another peer. If some clients are only downloading (not wasting any uploading bandwith) you are doing it with "maximum speed" -> which means "leech mode". But that's not the way bit torrent was intended for. ("Give and ye shall receive!") I just seems that you have a bad connection at the moment. > If your .torrent file is still handy, could you md5 it please, & > if it's not same as mine mail me a copy please ? Maybe mine is corrupted ? > MD5 (techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi.torrent) = a1a4e1ba9e18e527555adad8b198c498 > Your torrent file is not corrupted. the MD5 of mine is the same: MD5 (techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi.torrent) = a1a4e1ba9e18e527555adad8b198c498 I am the only one, who seeds the file at the moment. I also copied the torrent and the final .avi file to my webserver. You can get all from here: http://193.171.34.71/torrent Greetings, Harald From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 16:07:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEE216A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:07:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.golden.net (smtp.golden.net [199.166.210.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D1143D1D for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:07:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gldisater@gto.net) Received: from 180-77.speede.golden.net ([216.75.180.77]) by smtp.golden.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1DJw11-0006WB-6W; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:07:27 -0400 Message-ID: <4256AC55.6050006@gto.net> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:07:49 -0400 From: Jeremy Faulkner User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Stacey References: <200504081437.j38Ebk7E022457@fire.jhs.private> In-Reply-To: <200504081437.j38Ebk7E022457@fire.jhs.private> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cool, Matt! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 16:07:36 -0000 Julian Stacey wrote: > Reference: > >>From: Wille Harald >>Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:00:43 +0200 >>Message-id: <20050408130043.GA3703@heim-034-71.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at> > > > Wille Harald wrote: > >>>Has anyone tried torrent down loading ? & been succesful ? >>>Mine was stuck at 2 meg last 5 hours so I killed it - Again ! >> >>I succesfully downloaded it using ctorrent. >>Just startet seeding for other 72 hours. >>Good luck - again :) > > > Thanks. I started again, & from a 2nd different site too. (to > test in case throttled at 1st site) Crawling slow at both sites. > I ran it with a simple: > ctorrent techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi.torrent > & got this > META INFO > Announce: http://www.owntracker.com/pqrt/announce.php > Create On: Tue Apr 5 20:39:23 2005 > Piece length: 262144 > FILES INFO > <1> techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi [176344994] > Total: 168 MB > Check exist: 672/673 Complete > Already/Total: 9/673 > Listen on: 2706 > | 4,[9/673/673],0,0 | 0,0 E:0 > I found this explains the above > http://ctorrent.sourceforge.net/?action=faq&id=7 > Somewhere I read of leach mode penalisation, > I havent turned on anything to enable leach mode though. > > If your .torrent file is still handy, could you md5 it please, & > if it's not same as mine mail me a copy please ? Maybe mine is corrupted ? > MD5 (techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi.torrent) = a1a4e1ba9e18e527555adad8b198c498 > > - > Julian Stacey Net & Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com > Mail in Ascii (Html=Spam). Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. ctorrent is a buggy unmaintained application and should probably be removed from ports. I would suggest using the python bittorrent client. -- Jeremy Faulkner From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 17:05:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF72616A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:05:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from phoenix.gargantuan.com (srv01.lak.lwxdatacom.net [24.73.171.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6034643D3F for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:05:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michael@gargantuan.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.gargantuan.com [127.0.0.1]) by spamassassin-injector (Postfix) with SMTP id 66D5E79C; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:05:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by phoenix.gargantuan.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BC5456EC; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:05:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:05:36 -0400 From: "Michael W. Oliver" To: Jeremy Faulkner Message-ID: <20050408170536.GA85469@gargantuan.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jeremy Faulkner , Julian Stacey , advocacy@freebsd.org References: <200504081437.j38Ebk7E022457@fire.jhs.private> <4256AC55.6050006@gto.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4256AC55.6050006@gto.net> X-WWW-URL: http://michael.gargantuan.com X-GPG-PGP-Public-Key: http://michael.gargantuan.com/gnupg/pubkey.asc X-GPG-PGP-Fingerprint: 2694 0179 AE3F BFAE 0916 0BF5 B16B FBAB C5FA A3C9 X-Home-Phone: +1-863-816-8091 X-Mobile-Phone: +1-863-738-2334 X-Mailing-Address0: 8008 Apache Lane X-Mailing-Address1: Lakeland, FL X-Mailing-Address2: 33810-2172 X-Mailing-Address3: United States of America X-Guide-Questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html X-Guide-Netiquette: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Spam-DCC: sonic.net: phoenix.gargantuan.com 1117; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on phoenix.gargantuan.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Pyzor: Reported 0 times. cc: Julian Stacey cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cool, Matt! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 17:05:50 -0000 --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2005-04-08T12:07:49-0400, Jeremy Faulkner wrote: > Julian Stacey wrote: >> Reference: > ctorrent is a buggy unmaintained application and should probably be=20 > removed from ports. I would suggest using the python bittorrent client. a while back, someone turned me on to torrentflux. now, this isn't for everyone, as you need MySQL, PHP, and Apache to use it, but for me it works great since I can add/remove/manage my torrents from any machine on my network via browser, while actually running the bittorrent client on my big storage box. http://www.torrentflux.com/ also, to get it working, I had to add this to my /etc/sysctl.conf: kern.ps_arg_cache_limit=3D1024 hope this helps someone, have a good day! --=20 Mike Oliver [see complete headers for contact information] --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCVrngsWv7q8X6o8kRArtFAJ9WDgftFDDcSlSVLMP2TdCyr6+JCQCfXJXB CvnQhti26GQwzyeF/QPeNzo= =0Goq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz-- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 18:15:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6728016A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:15:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B57D43D5C for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:15:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 22734 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2005 18:15:29 -0000 Received: from server.baldwin.cx ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 8 Apr 2005 18:15:29 -0000 Received: from roboboy.corp.weather.com (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j38IFHt2089924; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:15:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:38:24 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200504072211.58526.josh@tcbug.org> In-Reply-To: <200504072211.58526.josh@tcbug.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504080938.25379.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.8 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on server.baldwin.cx cc: Josh Paetzel cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Mistake in sending a PR X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:15:30 -0000 On Thursday 07 April 2005 11:11 pm, Josh Paetzel wrote: > I mistakenly sent advocacy/79662 when I wanted it to go to doc/xxxxx > > Please close this out and beat me with canes off-list. :) Any committer can easily change the category of a PR. I've already fixed this one. Did you file another doc PR though so that this one is now a duplicate? -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 18:15:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695DE16A4CF for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:15:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC4C43D5D for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:15:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 22734 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2005 18:15:29 -0000 Received: from server.baldwin.cx ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 8 Apr 2005 18:15:29 -0000 Received: from roboboy.corp.weather.com (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j38IFHt2089924; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:15:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:38:24 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200504072211.58526.josh@tcbug.org> In-Reply-To: <200504072211.58526.josh@tcbug.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504080938.25379.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.8 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on server.baldwin.cx cc: Josh Paetzel cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Mistake in sending a PR X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:15:30 -0000 On Thursday 07 April 2005 11:11 pm, Josh Paetzel wrote: > I mistakenly sent advocacy/79662 when I wanted it to go to doc/xxxxx > > Please close this out and beat me with canes off-list. :) Any committer can easily change the category of a PR. I've already fixed this one. Did you file another doc PR though so that this one is now a duplicate? -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 20:06:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE87916A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 20:06:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51808.mail.yahoo.com (web51808.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 16A5243D1F for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 20:06:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from acruizu8-freebsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 46015 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Apr 2005 20:06:41 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=ZFbVBqCocrOuBKL9hJHpiNHh39QFwUsXaGP0eInhmADdoPcAFiLEiRJ6hGjl2nFHHgRylvXk5E1iDIrntUphmIlUXgUdoTFbW9fYHFAxvgYZXyYcYYPzErWRsedmUSPyZ+KZxj1b9sEm65Xq/eNLNAF9zWe2hMKBThAYber41X4= ; Message-ID: <20050408200641.46013.qmail@web51808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.85.170.62] by web51808.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:06:41 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:06:41 -0700 (PDT) From: To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050407120020.0E38316A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: acruizu8-freebsd@yahoo.com List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 20:06:42 -0000 Exactly, in the server side. Allan freebsd-advocacy-request@freebsd.org wrote: Re: freebsd-advocacy Digest, Vol 96, Issue 2 (Anthony Atkielski) acruizu8-freebsd@yahoo.com writes: > I would like to find information or some kind of bussiness case > that explains why is better FreeBSD over Linux. Somebody know about > this kind of information? In what context? FreeBSD is surely a better server; I don't know that it's a better desktop (Linux fans place far more emphasis on the desktop than do FreeBSD fans). -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 20:50:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A56E16A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 20:50:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0649243D39 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 20:50:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 22235 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2005 20:50:43 -0000 Received: from batv-01-030.dialup.netins.net (HELO Htebazile.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.31) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 2005 20:50:43 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050408153906.18110b40@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:50:05 -0500 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <20050408200641.46013.qmail@web51808.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050407120020.0E38316A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 20:50:47 -0000 >> I would like to find information or some kind of bussiness case >> that explains why is better FreeBSD over Linux. Somebody know about >> this kind of information? There are some significant differences especially where servers are concerned--some links below. As far as the desktop environment goes, supposedly most anything that compiles on Linux, should compile on FreeBSD. http://tinyurl.com/2f8np http://www.offmyserver.com/cgi-bin/store/news/techtv_090303.html http://tinyurl.com/6xhrz http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux8.php http://www.InternetWeek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=3D12800936 http://Search.Yahoo.com/search?p=3D%22FreeBSD+vs.+Linux%22 http://www.Google.com/search?q=3D%22FreeBSD+vs.+Linux%22 Much of what runs on Linux also runs on FreeBSD, either 'natively' or using Linux emulation. http://www.Google.com/search?q=3DFreeBSD+features+Linux Here is an installation how-to that I've worked up: http://www.US-Webmasters.com/FreeBSD/Install/ Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 9 05:26:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE1D16A4CE for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 05:26:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD0E43D3F for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 05:26:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050409052629i92005ao5fe>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 05:26:45 +0000 Message-ID: <42576781.4050603@nbritton.org> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 00:26:25 -0500 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050324) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Julian H. Stacey" References: <200504081234.j38CYSMo016602@fire.jhs.private> In-Reply-To: <200504081234.j38CYSMo016602@fire.jhs.private> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cool, Matt! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:26:46 -0000 Julian H. Stacey wrote: >>I've transcribed the dialogue to ASCII: >>http://daleco.biz/cluster.txt >> >> > >Thanks. I've grabbed that. > >Has anyone tried torrent down loading ? & been succesful ? >Mine was stuck at 2 meg last 5 hours so I killed it - Again ! > Many people have, I alone have seeded 1.4GB and there is an average of 4-5 seeders at any time. So I can guess that at least 41 people have downloaded it but It might be a lot more then that because my cable connection is capped at 384Kbps up. I would try a different bittorrent client, I personally am using Azureus, from ports. Also do you have port 6881 open on the firewall? Here is the torrent link again: http://home.golden.net/~rcent/techtv-freebsd_clusters.avi.torrent From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 9 17:45:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B9016A4CE for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:45:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90104.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90104.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2401443D58 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:45:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jphamlore@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 76094 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Apr 2005 17:45:34 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=zltCfn2PctPIeNxl98+7NhrJLQ4f7If/rIJxTQtopsCpYfh1omrDtcJY0P1Q6MKrGpBQADditEB1NZ0YT/NWM3p/dx9y+sOZunWbPOmuL/cFzSpVC7BqkyJA1x3boQXJZvbR/i0QCxwfF3QWgk5J3Na5v6X6Bze6okViUSWDMJg= ; Message-ID: <20050409174534.76092.qmail@web90104.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.204.163.5] by web90104.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:45:33 PDT Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:45:33 -0700 (PDT) From: John Phamlore To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: FreeBSD trademark and Debian GNU/kFreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:45:34 -0000 Does the Debian GNU/kFreeBSD project have permission to use the FreeBSD trademark? 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