From owner-freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 4 09:03:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E5716A41F; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 09:03:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from outi@bytephobia.de) Received: from dd2626.kasserver.com (dd2626.kasserver.com [81.209.184.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D061043D48; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 09:03:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from outi@bytephobia.de) Received: from duality.bytephobia.de (p54AD490C.dip.t-dialin.net [84.173.73.12]) by dd2626.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D0DB6D9A; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 11:03:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 11:02:56 +0200 From: Patrick Hurrelmann To: Niels Heinen Message-Id: <20050904110256.70fd834e.outi@bytephobia.de> In-Reply-To: <20050903204304.GA17555@r0ck.mine.nu> References: <20050903204304.GA17555@r0ck.mine.nu> Organization: private X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.0.1 (GTK+ 2.6.10; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libbluetooth changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using Bluetooth in FreeBSD environments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 09:03:52 -0000 On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 22:43:04 +0200 Niels Heinen wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > I want extend libbluetooth with some new functions that allow > more programs to interact with the bluetooth stack. I'm for example > thinking about applications that do bluetooth device discovery. > > I'd like to propose the following to start with: > > 1. Move bluetooth control functions from hccontrol into the library > 2. Change hccontrol to use the library > 3. Make some functions more generic (if needed) > 4. Document > > My question to you is: do you have any suggestions or things I > should take into consideration ? > > I talked this over with Maksim (max) and he will review and commit > the changes. > > Thanks! > > Niels > Hi Niels, while thinking about changes to libbluetooth you might want to introduce some more Linux bluez compatibility. There is some yet, but I wasn't able to compile many apps that rely an bluez. Additioally, I'm no coder so my expierences in this may also be false. But I just wanted to give a hint if you start thinking on changes/enhancements. Patrick -- ==================================================================== Patrick Hurrelmann | "Programming today is a race between software Mannheim, Germany | engineers striving to build bigger and better | idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying outi@bytephobia.de | to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, www.bytephobia.de | the Universe is winning." - Rich Cook /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X against HTML email & vCards / \ From owner-freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 4 20:49:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8843816A41F for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:49:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from niels@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freebsd.heinen.ws (cp717747-a.gelen1.lb.home.nl [84.28.169.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE83343D45 for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:49:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from niels@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 21480 invoked by uid 1003); 4 Sep 2005 20:34:32 -0000 Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 22:34:32 +0200 From: Niels Heinen To: Patrick Hurrelmann Message-ID: <20050904203432.GB17555@r0ck.mine.nu> References: <20050903204304.GA17555@r0ck.mine.nu> <20050904110256.70fd834e.outi@bytephobia.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050904110256.70fd834e.outi@bytephobia.de> X-PGP-Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~niels/pgp/niels.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 75D8 4100 CF5B 3280 543F 930C 613E 71AA 5FE3 9B80 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Cc: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libbluetooth changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using Bluetooth in FreeBSD environments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 20:49:35 -0000 --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hi Niels, >=20 > while thinking about changes to libbluetooth you might want to > introduce some more Linux bluez compatibility. There is some yet, but I > wasn't able to compile many apps that rely an bluez. Additioally, I'm > no coder so my expierences in this may also be false. >=20 > But I just wanted to give a hint if you start thinking on > changes/enhancements. >=20 > Patrick Hi Patrick, Good point. Maksim also told me that compatibility would be a nice feature.=20 I just downloaded the BlueZ library and some applications that depend on it in order to get an overview of their API.=20 Thanks, Niels >=20 > --=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Patrick Hurrelmann | "Programming today is a race between software > Mannheim, Germany | engineers striving to build bigger and better > | idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying > outi@bytephobia.de | to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, > www.bytephobia.de | the Universe is winning." - Rich Cook >=20 > /"\ > \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign > X against HTML email & vCards > / \ --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDG1pXYT5xql/jm4ARAkNgAJ9O3mSpUpZS9TXVgUkFLm7JY/fP0gCfXaDe Z6cBAAtlgMVyp04iq4EueXY= =K41k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ-- From owner-freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 5 21:25:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C51016A41F for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 21:25:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maksim.yevmenkin@savvis.net) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFFB43D45 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 21:25:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maksim.yevmenkin@savvis.net) Received: from [192.168.1.254] (really [70.32.199.60]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with ESMTP id <20050905212553.ULCN12299.mta13.adelphia.net@[192.168.1.254]>; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 17:25:53 -0400 Message-ID: <431CB7E3.4000701@savvis.net> Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 14:25:55 -0700 From: Maksim Yevmenkin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Ruiz Dorantes References: <002a01c5afc7$c31eb750$0100a8c0@rdhome> In-Reply-To: <002a01c5afc7$c31eb750$0100a8c0@rdhome> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BCM2035 X-BeenThere: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using Bluetooth in FreeBSD environments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 21:25:55 -0000 Olive, > Anybody tested this chip? not that i know of > I have been playing with it with good results, but suddently i get a > BD_ADDR 00:00:00:00:00:00, and the dongle due to this (i think) is > not working even in windows. i just did a quick search on bcm2035 and linux bluez and found at least one post that describes similar problem. > Looks like it forgot its BD_ADDR, and as far as i know there is no SW > way(hci command) to set it again, I wonder if there is a SW way that > i could have deleted it by mistake.... i'm not aware of any hci command that would allow you to re/set bd_addr. i'm interested to know what did you do to make it forget its bd_addr. > The model is BT3035 from Tecom with as i said the chip is Broadcom > 2035 > > Any idea / advice ? i'm afraid there is nothing on top of my head right now :( i will need to have the device itself to run some tests. i will see if i can purchase it locally and let you know. thanks, max From owner-freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 7 18:59:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33C716A41F for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 18:59:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh1.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1115B43D4C for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 18:59:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh1.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j87IxHI3068070 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 13:59:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <431F388E.2010204@centtech.com> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 13:59:26 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050904 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.82/1069/Wed Sep 7 10:08:51 2005 on mh1.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Bluetooth mouse breaks on -current X-BeenThere: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using Bluetooth in FreeBSD environments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 18:59:18 -0000 Ok, I wish I could provide better information, but as of the last couple of weeks (2 weeks maybe?), I've had this weird problem with my bluetooth mouse (which had been working flawlessly until now). Right in the middle of use, my mouse will die. It will lose association (or whatever it's called). Actually, the mouse seems to be ok, as I've tried it on another computer and it works just fine with no changes. Once it dies, I have to muck with the bthidcontrol forget, reboot, etc, so I'm not sure what I do to fix it, but eventually it will be able to query the mouse again and then bthidd will connect and everything will be fine. One thing I've noticed, is that now, when doing an l2ping, I get this: # l2ping -a mouse 44 bytes from mouse seq_no=0 time=59990.660 ms result=0x23 Resource temporarily unavailable 44 bytes from mouse seq_no=1 time=59990.834 ms result=0x23 Resource temporarily unavailable 44 bytes from mouse seq_no=2 time=59990.821 ms result=0x23 Resource temporarily unavailable 44 bytes from mouse seq_no=3 time=59990.885 ms result=0x23 Resource temporarily unavailable 44 bytes from mouse seq_no=4 time=59990.879 ms result=0x23 Resource temporarily unavailable When my mouse is on or off. Also, pinging other devices, returns either the same result, or sometimes it will return ~5000ms returns, as if it can ping it, but it is slow - even when the device isn't powered on! What do I need to do to help diagnose? Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 9 12:17:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECD016A41F for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:17:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh2.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D58F43D70 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:17:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh2.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j89CHIOg096736 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 07:17:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <43217D56.3050508@centtech.com> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 07:17:26 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050904 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org References: <431F388E.2010204@centtech.com> In-Reply-To: <431F388E.2010204@centtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.82/1071/Fri Sep 9 01:39:47 2005 on mh2.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Bluetooth mouse breaks on -current X-BeenThere: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using Bluetooth in FreeBSD environments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 12:17:27 -0000 Eric Anderson wrote: > Ok, I wish I could provide better information, but as of the last couple > of weeks (2 weeks maybe?), I've had this weird problem with my bluetooth > mouse (which had been working flawlessly until now). Right in the > middle of use, my mouse will die. It will lose association (or whatever > it's called). Actually, the mouse seems to be ok, as I've tried it on > another computer and it works just fine with no changes. Once it dies, > I have to muck with the bthidcontrol forget, reboot, etc, so I'm not > sure what I do to fix it, but eventually it will be able to query the > mouse again and then bthidd will connect and everything will be fine. > > One thing I've noticed, is that now, when doing an l2ping, I get this: > # l2ping -a mouse > 44 bytes from mouse seq_no=0 time=59990.660 ms result=0x23 Resource > temporarily unavailable > 44 bytes from mouse seq_no=1 time=59990.834 ms result=0x23 Resource > temporarily unavailable > 44 bytes from mouse seq_no=2 time=59990.821 ms result=0x23 Resource > temporarily unavailable > 44 bytes from mouse seq_no=3 time=59990.885 ms result=0x23 Resource > temporarily unavailable > 44 bytes from mouse seq_no=4 time=59990.879 ms result=0x23 Resource > temporarily unavailable > > When my mouse is on or off. Also, pinging other devices, returns either > the same result, or sometimes it will return ~5000ms returns, as if it > can ping it, but it is slow - even when the device isn't powered on! > > What do I need to do to help diagnose? Seems that rebooting my FreeBSD laptop clears it up - so I'm thinking it has to do with the netgraph/bluetooth modules.. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 9 18:39:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50ACF16A41F for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 18:39:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maksim.yevmenkin@savvis.net) Received: from ismybrain.com (ismybrain.com [64.246.42.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF06243D4C for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 18:39:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maksim.yevmenkin@savvis.net) Received: from [10.254.186.111] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ismybrain.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j89Id1g29900; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 14:39:01 -0400 Message-ID: <4321D6C4.6050300@savvis.net> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:39:00 -0700 From: Maksim Yevmenkin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Anderson References: <431F388E.2010204@centtech.com> <43217D56.3050508@centtech.com> In-Reply-To: <43217D56.3050508@centtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bluetooth mouse breaks on -current X-BeenThere: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using Bluetooth in FreeBSD environments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 18:39:08 -0000 Eric, >> Ok, I wish I could provide better information, but as of the last >> couple of weeks (2 weeks maybe?), I've had this weird problem with my >> bluetooth mouse (which had been working flawlessly until now). Right >> in the middle of use, my mouse will die. It will lose association (or >> whatever it's called). Actually, the mouse seems to be ok, as I've >> tried it on another computer and it works just fine with no changes. >> Once it dies, I have to muck with the bthidcontrol forget, reboot, >> etc, so I'm not sure what I do to fix it, but eventually it will be >> able to query the mouse again and then bthidd will connect and >> everything will be fine. very strange... i do not think i committed any significant change to the bluetooth code in a few months. >> One thing I've noticed, is that now, when doing an l2ping, I get this: >> # l2ping -a mouse >> 44 bytes from mouse seq_no=0 time=59990.660 ms result=0x23 Resource >> temporarily unavailable >> 44 bytes from mouse seq_no=1 time=59990.834 ms result=0x23 Resource >> temporarily unavailable >> 44 bytes from mouse seq_no=2 time=59990.821 ms result=0x23 Resource >> temporarily unavailable >> 44 bytes from mouse seq_no=3 time=59990.885 ms result=0x23 Resource >> temporarily unavailable >> 44 bytes from mouse seq_no=4 time=59990.879 ms result=0x23 Resource >> temporarily unavailable >> >> When my mouse is on or off. Also, pinging other devices, returns >> either the same result, or sometimes it will return ~5000ms returns, >> as if it can ping it, but it is slow - even when the device isn't >> powered on! i think its fine. what probably happens here is that bluetooth thinks there is an active baseband connection to the device, but for what ever reason no data is transferred (flow control issues?). l2ping has default timeout of 60 seconds (time=59990.879) after that msleep() call will timeout and return EAGAIN (35 decimal or 0x23) >> What do I need to do to help diagnose? when this happens please do # hccontrol -n ubt0hci read_connection_list # l2control -a read_connection_list # l2control -a read_channel_list # btsockstat and send me the output. note: means bd_addr of the device connected to the computer, not mouse. > Seems that rebooting my FreeBSD laptop clears it up - so I'm thinking it > has to do with the netgraph/bluetooth modules.. you probably right. if you have time, you could try to revert your src/ tree to, say, month ago and see if you still have the problem. using the few iterations you could find the date after which your mouse no longer works. this would help me a lot to figure out what change caused this. also i would like to know if anybody else has the same issues. thanks, max From owner-freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 9 18:56:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013AB16A41F for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 18:56:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maksim.yevmenkin@savvis.net) Received: from ismybrain.com (ismybrain.com [64.246.42.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B97243D49 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 18:56:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maksim.yevmenkin@savvis.net) Received: from [10.254.186.111] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ismybrain.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j89Itfg30252; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 14:55:41 -0400 Message-ID: <4321DAAC.3030905@savvis.net> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:55:40 -0700 From: Maksim Yevmenkin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kurt Jaeger References: <20050903212613.GD76888@home.c0mplx.org> <20050903213035.GE76888@home.c0mplx.org> In-Reply-To: <20050903213035.GE76888@home.c0mplx.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3Com PCMCIA 3CRWB6096B ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using Bluetooth in FreeBSD environments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 18:56:08 -0000 Kurt, >>Had anyone luck with the 3Com PCMCIA 3CRWB6096B under fbsd 5.4p6 ? >> >>I've put the dmesg output of my experiment with it on >>http://c0mplx.org/backup/status-btccc0 > > One thing: I added > > PCMCIA_CARD(3COM, 3CRWB6096B, 0), > to > > /usr/src/sys/netgraph/bluetooth/drivers/bt3c/ng_bt3c_pccard.c > > to force the detection as btccc0. Before that, it was always > detected as sio5, but rc.bluetooth would not be able to > use that if I used > > rc.bluetooth start sio5 did the card work after your changes? from what i know there are at least two versions of the 3com bluetooth card. i just tries mine and got pccard0: CIS version PC Card Standard 5.0 pccard0: CIS info: 3COM, 3CRWB60-A, Bluetooth PC Card pccard0: Manufacturer code 0x101, product 0x40 so the card i have is apparently version 1 card (product id 0x40), and according to your dmesg pccard1: CIS version PC Card Standard 7.1 pccard1: CIS info: 3Com, 3CRWB6096B Bluetooth PC Card, , pccard1: Manufacturer code 0x101, product 0x41 so it looks like you have version 2 (or other?) card - product id 0x41. ng_bt3c(4) driver was only tested with version 1 card (the one i have - product id 0x40). i do not own other version(s) of the card. if you could please tell me how to identify the card i can try to find and purchase it locally. you could also try to look at linux bluez mailing lists and try to figure out what is the difference between version 1 and version 2 cards. thanks, max