From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 22:41:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C196616A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:41:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4468843D49 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:41:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c2so3794057nfe for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:41:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ELhS1/nNF+BDZ64Jj8zMU82T/P+zCB1SrrEKcueGis5x5hBEWyNYf2DQ2r2FyXBpTEMmhuoC+3lkA5JMhVlsKVopX6DsITuMkytJQFRcDrz0MaPmVxaVj/oD71tbunaJ0zpNibm3I54CtXicaRXfWt51gvMQP2jWqnCv2RO0McE= Received: by 10.48.250.12 with SMTP id x12mr86513nfh; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.43.2 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:41:02 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: did i made it to the ignore list already ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:41:04 -0000 Is it just me or are my mails lost somehow ? From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 23:09:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E27216A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:09:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net (pih-relay04.plus.net [212.159.14.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3EA443D69 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:09:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Dhy3G-0006Wy-AZ for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:09:06 +0100 From: Xian To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:09:00 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <42A6C6A7.7040600@o2.pl> <42A6FD3E.2000503@pacific.net.sg> <42A6FE72.2010600@o2.pl> In-Reply-To: <42A6FE72.2010600@o2.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506140009.00678.ian@codepad.net> Subject: Re: headless server... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:09:08 -0000 On Wednesday 08 June 2005 15:19, Przemys=B3aw Nowaczyk wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Przemys=B3aw Nowaczyk wrote: > >> okey.. the status for now is: > >> - I have the newest version of Bios v.4.51PG 2B for this motherboard, > >> - I've tried all combinations with the Halt On option (no solvation), > >> - Even without the video card the box doesn't start, > >> - in my bios there's no No Video option, > >> - Even when only the cable of the monitor is plugged it doesn't start, > >> - I won't try to fry my PC :P > >> - so I've run out of ideas.. > >> but thank You All for help :) and feel free to share more ideas :) > > > > You are saying that the machine boots with the monitor on but does not > > when you switch the monitor off? > > > > Erich > > well to be exact, the situation looks like this: when the monitor is > plugged into the box (it doesn't matter wheather it's on or off) > everything runs fine (there's the standard "short beep" and the machine > boots normaly). But when the monitor isn't plugged, the machine doesn't > start (there's no beep) and the OS isn't loaded. Another idea, Could you fool it into thinking there is a monitor there when= =20 there isn't by taking a monitor plug and wiring a few resistors across it?= =20 I'm sure the Internet or a multimeter will tell you where to put the=20 resistors. =2D-=20 /Xian "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do=20 nothing" Edmund Burke From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 00:04:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D1516A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:04:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from evil@evildomain.org) Received: from evil.evildomain.org (adsl-68-126-0-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net [68.126.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D9F43D1F for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:04:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from evil@evildomain.org) Received: from [192.168.1.7] ([192.168.1.7]) by evil.evildomain.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5E05A2Z017368 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:05:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from evil@evildomain.org) Message-ID: <42AE1F21.8090801@evildomain.org> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:04:49 -0700 From: Aaron Holmes User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: bsd demon image X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:04:47 -0000 hello, I was wondering who to ask about being allowed to use the freeBSD demon image, and I guess this looks like the right place.. any information as to who to ask about this would be greatly appreciated. thanks, Aaron Holmes From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 00:35:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E92016A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:35:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF61443D1F for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:35:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so2058914wri for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:35:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XVoGlvN/ZJcFrj57RgFUeSy9tdCPvlBESfp3VcQyNWYewfkSII8lqzZv1UzuEp02PRbqfKqkzBjhbOJ63XQ7PEJQ+ZnCU80dWih3g6k8bzUTeP5Cp2JypOLU02/R17LyOEV45BkeVBhm9rxKsuwmBc8Nwbds7c+I6Dc5W0QdWHE= Received: by 10.54.10.7 with SMTP id 7mr2857962wrj; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.102.20 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57d710000506131735e7eac76@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:35:49 -0700 From: pete wright To: Aaron Holmes In-Reply-To: <42AE1F21.8090801@evildomain.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AE1F21.8090801@evildomain.org> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsd demon image X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pete wright List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:35:53 -0000 On 6/13/05, Aaron Holmes wrote: > hello, I was wondering who to ask about being allowed to use the freeBSD > demon image, and I guess this looks like the right place.. any > information as to who to ask about this would be greatly appreciated. > thanks, > Aaron Holmes http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/copyright.html -p --=20 ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 01:53:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6CA16A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:53:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sub01@freeode.co.uk) Received: from mail.freeode.co.uk (freeode.co.uk [213.162.123.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7649343D48 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:53:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sub01@freeode.co.uk) Received: from lexx (lexx.freeode.co.uk [10.253.253.2]) by mail.freeode.co.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5E1rpet015507; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 02:53:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from sub01@freeode.co.uk) From: John Murphy To: Gert Cuykens Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 02:53:51 +0100 Message-ID: <1mdsa1h5838kpjahicqiqpan34cn25k2fi@4ax.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: did i made it to the ignore list already ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sub01@freeode.co.uk List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:53:54 -0000 Gert Cuykens wrote: >Is it just me or are my mails lost somehow ? If email you've sent to FreeBSD lists is not appearing in the archive then perhaps the problem is with gmail; it is beta. -- John. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 02:09:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B3916A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 02:09:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from sarajevo.pacific.net.sg (sarajevo.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12E9B43D4C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 02:09:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 11870 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2005 02:09:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell6.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.212) by sarajevo with SMTP; 14 Jun 2005 02:09:45 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.246.101]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20050614020945.CNOF1233.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:09:45 +0800 Message-ID: <42AE3C59.2090300@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:09:29 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050514) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gert Cuykens References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: did i made it to the ignore list already ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 02:09:52 -0000 Hi, I have some of your questions but I also do not have answers to them. You should see if it works when you get your own question back via the list. If it does not come, something went wrong. Erich From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 15 07:23:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748F816A41C; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:23:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@linpro.no) Received: from head.linpro.no (head.linpro.no [80.232.36.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDBF43D48; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:23:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@linpro.no) Received: from cat.linpro.no ([80.232.36.160]) by head.linpro.no with esmtp (Exim 4.14 #1 (Debian)) id 1DiSFA-0005d4-In; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:23:24 +0200 Received: by cat.linpro.no (Postfix, from userid 7064) id 52BF91B87B; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:23:24 +0200 (CEST) To: chat@freebsd.org From: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:23:24 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090024 (Oort Gnus v0.24) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *1DiSFA-0005d4-In*SNxYiOf9G0s* Cc: Subject: mail outage X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:23:28 -0000 My IMAP server crashed again last night, and I've given up trying to keep it alive until replacement disks arrive. This means that des@des.no and des@freebsd.org are off the air until I get the IMAP spool transferred to another server (which may take a few days - imapsync is no speed demon, and I have several gigabytes of mail in that spool). It also means that although I did not lose any mail, I did lose most of the metadata, meaning that anything that arrived before the crash that I hadn't yet read or answered isn't likely to get read or answered at all unless I get it again. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 15 20:39:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B0B16A41C for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:39:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1358743D53 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:39:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g2so2188nfe for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:39:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=P+JSn6yYab9F6AMLov7XZ76E5XEfc1yF+l9Iz4ngx6Sdzu4eNzlj4z4mwemMuLRKaVjfasr9bG/SYImp96dEX3x1UbgigwaaDyyJgVXttLIu/vKWNd3Z3xJ9AwF4dhL4CVLCVAk+6C1Icoe3uLuOeKRuTeBiI+WcAxFPbkx/pgc= Received: by 10.48.4.10 with SMTP id 10mr2535nfd; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.43.2 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:39:42 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: Erich Dollansky In-Reply-To: <42AE3C59.2090300@pacific.net.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AE3C59.2090300@pacific.net.sg> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: did i made it to the ignore list already ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:39:44 -0000 ok thx From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 16 21:49:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A85E16A41C; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:49:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from liamfoy@sepulcrum.org) Received: from moutvdomng.kundenserver.de (moutvdom.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD8F43D1D; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:49:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from liamfoy@sepulcrum.org) Received: from [212.227.126.224] (helo=mrvdomng.kundenserver.de) by moutvdomng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1Dj2Eh-00004x-00; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:49:19 +0200 Received: from host81-153-214-74.range81-153.btcentralplus.com ([81.153.214.74] helo=localhost) by mrvdomng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1Dj2Eh-0002fd-00; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:49:19 +0200 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:49:18 +0100 From: "Liam J. Foy" To: freebsd-user-groups@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050616214918.GA1891@anarion> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: User groups/People situated in Liverpool, UK X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:49:20 -0000 Hello, If anyone is from Liverpool, United Kingdom (Yes, home of the Beatles) please let me know! Am interested in finding people in my area interested in *BSD in general. Hope to hear from someone soon! -- - Liam J. Foy liamfoy@sepulcrum.org From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 00:11:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E6216A41C; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:11:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from S@mSmith.net) Received: from sebastian.foriru.co.uk (sebastian.foriru.co.uk [82.152.14.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D91943D1F; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:11:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from S@mSmith.net) Received: from sebastian.foriru.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sebastian.foriru.co.uk (8.13.4/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j5H0B7Bh006833 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:11:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (sams@localhost) by sebastian.foriru.co.uk (8.13.4/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id j5H0Atn3003388; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:11:00 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: sebastian.foriru.co.uk: sams owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:10:55 +0100 (BST) From: Sam Smith X-X-Sender: sams@sebastian.foriru.co.uk To: "Liam J. Foy" In-Reply-To: <20050616214918.GA1891@anarion> Message-ID: References: <20050616214918.GA1891@anarion> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-user-groups@freebsd.org Subject: Re: User groups/People situated in Liverpool, UK X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:11:23 -0000 On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Liam J. Foy wrote: > If anyone is from Liverpool, United Kingdom (Yes, home of the Beatles) > please let me know! Am interested in finding people in my area interested in > *BSD in general. There's a group down the M62 in Manchester www.bsdgroups.org.uk/manchester Sam -- Are you lonely? Hate having to make decisons? Meetings, the practical alternative to work. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 14:19:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279A516A41C for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:19:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9736C43D4C for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:19:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (dqfmhm@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5HEJJFj056961 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:19:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5HEJJ3q056960; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:19:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:19:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200506171419.j5HEJJ3q056960@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200506081102.j58B22jg019955@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-chat User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: headless server... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:19:24 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: > I forgot to mention: A standard 15pin VGA connector has > three ID pins (11, 12 and 4, I think). If all else fails, > it might help to connect some or all of them to ground. > However, be very careful with this. Don't complain to me > if you fry your hardware. :-) Now I had the chance to examine my VGA-RGB cable. It connects the following pins with each other and with the shiedling/case of the cable/connector: 4, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11. (That's the 4th pin in the top row, the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th pin in the middle row, and the first pin in the bottom row.) When looking straight onto the plug (front) with the long side at top, the pins are numbered 1 to 5 in the top row, 6 to 10 in the middle row, and 11 to 15 in the bottom row, each left to right. The pin numbers are usually also etched into the plastic of the connector beside the pins (very small digits, so you have to look very closely). So you only need to buy a VGA plug at an electronics store (or cut the plug from a broken VGA cable), and connect the pins mentioned above with each other and with the metal case/shielding of the plug. Now when you insert this "dongle" into the VGA card, it should be indistinguishable from a real monitor. Well, at least for the BIOS. :-) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. We're sysadmins. To us, data is a protocol-overhead. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 21:55:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E21416A41C; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:55:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D76C43D49; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:55:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from p54A3DA45.dip.t-dialin.net [84.163.218.69] (helo=donor.laier.local) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML21M-1DjOoF1GR3-0007SB; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:55:31 +0200 From: Max Laier To: chat@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:55:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050617210607.GA36959@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20050617214208.GG36959@freebie.xs4all.nl> <42B3450A.3020109@kjsl.com> In-Reply-To: <42B3450A.3020109@kjsl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart5681121.lz1jlPsEg4"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506172355.25713.max@love2party.net> X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:61c499deaeeba3ba5be80f48ecc83056 Cc: Wilko Bulte , Greg Barniskis , uzi@bmby.com, Matthias Buelow , Javier Henderson Subject: Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:55:47 -0000 --nextPart5681121.lz1jlPsEg4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 17 June 2005 23:47, Javier Henderson wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 02:26:48PM -0700, Javier Henderson wrote.. > > > >>Wilko Bulte wrote: > >>>On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 11:12:06PM +0200, Matthias Buelow wrote.. > >>> > >>>>Wilko Bulte writes: > >>>>>If you give me $5 per Unix system found there I can retire here and > >>>>> now. > >>>> > >>>>For financial transaction processing, and the customer's accounts? > >>> > >>>Yes. Go and visit the London City and check their computer rooms. > >>>You will be surprised about the number of UNIX boxes. You don't > >>>think IBM, HP, Sun etc sell their UNIX machines just to ISPs or..? > >> > >>But are those Unix servers actually processing bank transactions and > >>holding customer accounts? > > > > Why not? As an aside: what do you think telecom operators run their > > main billing systems on? UNIX... > > I'm sure some do. Others run theirs on VMS. > > > Any idea what downtime costs per hour on those systems? > > A lot. So how is this relevant for freebsd-stable@ ? ... Thanks! =2D-=20 /"\ Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News --nextPart5681121.lz1jlPsEg4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCs0bNXyyEoT62BG0RAmK+AJ4k8XTcHF1fxj9G3nCIhCA7mSwpegCbB2Ui MY2fN942kdtPxg2061SgMUc= =eQcw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5681121.lz1jlPsEg4-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 22:04:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BA216A41C for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:04:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EE443D49 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:04:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5HM41i4021061; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:04:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5HM404Z037682; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:04:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5HM40EO037681; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:04:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:04:00 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Max Laier Message-ID: <20050617220400.GA37664@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20050617210607.GA36959@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20050617214208.GG36959@freebie.xs4all.nl> <42B3450A.3020109@kjsl.com> <200506172355.25713.max@love2party.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506172355.25713.max@love2party.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Greg Barniskis , chat@freebsd.org, Matthias Buelow , uzi@bmby.com, Javier Henderson Subject: Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:04:05 -0000 On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 11:55:16PM +0200, Max Laier wrote.. > On Friday 17 June 2005 23:47, Javier Henderson wrote: > > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 02:26:48PM -0700, Javier Henderson wrote.. > > > > > >>Wilko Bulte wrote: > > >>>On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 11:12:06PM +0200, Matthias Buelow wrote.. > > >>> > > >>>>Wilko Bulte writes: > > >>>>>If you give me $5 per Unix system found there I can retire here and > > >>>>> now. > > >>>> > > >>>>For financial transaction processing, and the customer's accounts? > > >>> > > >>>Yes. Go and visit the London City and check their computer rooms. > > >>>You will be surprised about the number of UNIX boxes. You don't > > >>>think IBM, HP, Sun etc sell their UNIX machines just to ISPs or..? > > >> > > >>But are those Unix servers actually processing bank transactions and > > >>holding customer accounts? > > > > > > Why not? As an aside: what do you think telecom operators run their > > > main billing systems on? UNIX... > > > > I'm sure some do. Others run theirs on VMS. > > > > > Any idea what downtime costs per hour on those systems? > > > > A lot. > > So how is this relevant for freebsd-stable@ ? ... Thanks! Not at all. :-P -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 22:09:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784D016A41C for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:09:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd3mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5029B43D1F for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:09:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd5mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (pd5mr5so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.181]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0II90040U1HTE5F0@l-daemon> for chat@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:08:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml7so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.151]) by pd5mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0II900GPK1HTGHA0@pd5mr5so.prod.shaw.ca> for chat@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:08:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.60] (S0106006067227a4a.vc.shawcable.net [24.87.209.6]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0II900K2H1HSLQ@l-daemon> for chat@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:08:17 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:08:03 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <200506172355.25713.max@love2party.net> To: Max Laier Message-id: <42B349C3.4000608@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 References: <20050617210607.GA36959@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20050617214208.GG36959@freebie.xs4all.nl> <42B3450A.3020109@kjsl.com> <200506172355.25713.max@love2party.net> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050406) Cc: chat@freebsd.org, Matthias Buelow , Javier Henderson , Greg Barniskis , uzi@bmby.com, Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:09:11 -0000 Max Laier wrote: > On Friday 17 June 2005 23:47, Javier Henderson wrote: >>Wilko Bulte wrote: >>>Any idea what downtime costs per hour on those systems? >>A lot. > So how is this relevant for freebsd-stable@ ? ... Thanks! If downtime is very expensive, then you want to run an operating system which is as stable as possible. :-) Colin Percival