From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 17:24:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C283B16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:24:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xride@x12.dk) Received: from swip.net (mailfe07.swip.net [212.247.154.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FD343D60 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:24:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xride@x12.dk) X-T2-Posting-ID: lkM/Dn7LTUP9vUt2XCoVCw== Received: from x12.dk ([83.72.97.237] verified) by mailfe07.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 257659045; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:24:27 +0200 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by x12.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1FB5081A; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:24:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from x12.dk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (x12.dk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24267-01; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:23:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from x12.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by x12.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:23:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (xride@localhost) by x12.dk (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) with ESMTP id j8BHN15J024310; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:23:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from xride@x12.dk) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:23:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Soeren Straarup To: Hans Nieser In-Reply-To: <4322BC29.1050608@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20050911191954.O87302@x12.dk> References: <43227C43.4040304@makeworld.com> <4322BC29.1050608@xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-753103345-1126459381=:87302" X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at x12.dk Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on IRC X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:24:31 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-753103345-1126459381=:87302 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sat, 10 Sep 2005, Hans Nieser wrote: > Chris wrote: >> I just wanted to make a note - in the past I pushed that FreeBSD on IRC >> is a good place for users to seek help - Well, I have been proven wrong. >>=20 >> While it's true there MAY be a few decent IRC channels that actually >> offer help with FreeBSD, I can now say that I was wrong to assume that >> the majority of FBSD channels on IRC offer any type of FBSD help or even >> care if they offer help. >>=20 >> While I can't speak for EFNet, UnderNet and FreeNode - I can say for >> sure that there are certain channels on DALNet that are NOT help channel= s. >>=20 >> While there are some decent users on IRC networks overall, it really >> comes down to the management. And in the end - it's the management that >> makes the channel. > > I'm a new FreeBSD user coming pretty much straight from Windows (well, I= =20 > have tinkered with linux a bit in the past), and I've been hanging out in= =20 > #freebsd on FreeNode and QuakeNET and found them great places to get help= =2E > > Despite the fact that some of my questions that I have asked in either=20 > channels could probably be answered by some googling or wading through=20 > manpages, I've only been told to RTFM one or twice ;) I'm on #FreeBSD at undernet and been there since 1998. It is not a spoon feeding channel, but asking the right questions one gets often pointed in the right direction of reading material. http://www.freebsddiary.org is also a nice place to lookup info on stuff about freebsd .. Best regards S=F8ren Straarup Soeren Straarup | aka OZ2DAK aka Xride FreeBSD wannabe | FreeBSD since 2.2.6-R 'We wanted to believe. But the tools had been taken away..' Mulder --0-753103345-1126459381=:87302-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 18:52:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E554516A420 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:52:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from estover@nativenerds.com) Received: from www.nativenerds.com (host-70-0-111-24.midco.net [24.111.0.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21BE43D45 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:52:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from estover@nativenerds.com) Received: from host-133-35-230-24.midco.net ([24.230.35.133] helo=[192.168.1.89]) by www.nativenerds.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1EEWwX-0000Bd-HO for chat@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:52:45 -0600 Message-ID: <43248045.2070905@nativenerds.com> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:06:45 -0600 From: Ed Stover Organization: Native Nerds User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050503) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: bandwidth utlization of an email server X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: estover@nativenerds.com List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:52:47 -0000 I am wondering if any of you email/web administrators have some advice about users:bandwidth averages. For instance, how many users (email and web) do you run for a certain amount of bandwidth. I know it cant be exact but I am feeling around for estimates. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 13:38:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09E716A41F; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:38:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B4F43D48; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:38:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from p54A3E99D.dip.t-dialin.net [84.163.233.157] (helo=donor.laier.local) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML29c-1EEoVa4C4A-0003pC; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:38:06 +0200 From: Max Laier To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:37:50 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200509121538.02566.max@love2party.net> X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:61c499deaeeba3ba5be80f48ecc83056 Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Fwd: [EuroBSDCon 05 News] EuroBSDCon 2005 program and online registration X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:38:11 -0000 FYI - I think we managed to produce an interesting program with many good FreeBSD related talks. Hope to see you there! ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Date: Monday 12 September 2005 14:00 To: news@eurobsdcon.org The EuroBSDCon 2005 organizers are pleased to announce that the conference program and schedule are now defined and online registration on our website is now open. This year's EuroBSDCon will take place from Nov. 25 till Nov. 27. at the University of Basel, Switzerland. The conference will start with the now traditional tutorial day on Friday, offering a selection of five very interesting tutorials aimed at developers, system administrators and BSD users in general. On Saturday and Sunday the technical conference with three plenary sessions and twenty high-level talks will give an overview on the current state of the art. A social event, dubbed "The Night of the Living Dead", on Saturday night in one of Basel's well-known cellars near the conference venue, will round-up the program with a dinner and bars and give attendees the possibility to discuss in a relaxed atmosphere. The conference organizers and the program committee with all speakers and tutors are looking forward to meet you at EuroBSDCon 2005. Please register at our website http://www.eurobsdcon.org/. You find the list of tutorials and the detailed conference schedule below. Marc Balmer, on behalf of the EuroBSDCon 2005 organizers. Tutorials - Kernel Debugging (Greg Lehey) - Single User Secure Shell Installing small systems with FreeBSD using the Secure Shell RAMdisk environment. (Adrian Steinmann) - IPv6 Programming Basics What a developer needs to know about IPv6 - protocol peculiarities, socket API extensions, test bed setups and porting issues. (Benedikt Stockebrand) - Eventdriven programming with libisc Eventdriven programming as an alternative to multi-threading with real world code examination. This is a half day tutorial only. (Poul-Henning Kamp) - OpenBSD-based wireless networks Implementing and deploying OpenBSD based wireless networks using hostapd, new drivers and the improved IEEE 802.11 framework. (Reyk Floeter) Important notes regarding tutorials You must register for the conference to attend a tutorial. Tutorials impose an additional fee. See the registration form for details. Thursday Schedule For people arriving on Thursday evening, the registration will be open in the lobby of the Hotel Europe from 17:00 till 22:00. Friday Schedule 08:00 - 09:00 Registration at the University 13:00 - 14:00 Lunch 14:00 - 17:00 Tutorials 17:00 - 22:00 Registration at the Hotel Europe Saturday Schedule 08:00 - 08:30 Registration at the University 08:30 - 09:30 Welcome, Opening session 09:30 - 10:30 Signal handlers (Henning Brauer) Single User Secure Shell (Adrian Steinmann) 10:30 - 11:00 Coffee break 11:00 - 12:00 Network stack randomness (Ryan McBride) Complete hard disk encryption using FreeBSD's GEOM framework (Marc Schiesser) 12:00 - 13:00 Improving TCP/IP security through randomization without sacrificing interoperability (Michael James Silbersack) A machine-independent port of the MPD language runtime system to NetBSD (Ignatios Souvatzis) 13:00 - 14:00 Sandwich lunch 14:00 - 15:00 New evolutions in the X Window System (Matthieu Herrb & Matthias Hopf 15:00 - 16:00 The design and implementation of OpenOSPFD (Claudio Jeker) Remote user access VPNs (Emmanuel Dreyfus) 16:00 - 16:30 Coffee break 16:30 - 17:30 Building robust firewalls with OpenBSD and PF (Ryan McBride) 17:30 - 18:30 SMPng Development and status report (Robert Watson) Filtering bridges at your duty (Massimiliano Stucchi) 18:30 - 19:30 BOFs 19:30 - 20:30 Free Time 20:30 - 02:00 Social event: The night of the living dead Sunday Schedule 09:30 - 10:30 DVCS, or a new way to use Version control systems on FreeBSD (Ollivier Robert) Porting NetBSD/evbarm to the Arcom Viper (Antti Kantee) 10:30 - 11:00 Coffee break 11:00 - 12:00 New networking features in FreeBSD (Andre Oppermann) Building a FreeBSD appliance with NanoBSD (Poul-Henning Kamp) 12:00 - 13:00 Optimizing the FreeBSD IP and TCP stack (Andre Oppermann) Embedded OpenBSD (Niall O'Higgins & Uwe Stuehler) 13:00 - 14:00 Warm lunch 14:00 - 15:00 A new thread implementation for OpenBSD (Ted Unangst) FreeBSD jails in depth. An implementation walkthrough and usefulness example (Matteo Riondato) 15:00 - 16:00 Mystery Session 16:00 - 17:00 Closing Session ------------------------------------------------------- -- /"\ Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 13:43:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DC116A41F for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:43:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from m21.unixathome.org (m21.unixathome.org [205.150.199.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D719443D46 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:43:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [205.150.199.217]) by m21.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143C7C37B for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:43:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m21.unixathome.org ([205.150.199.217]) by localhost (m21.unixathome.org [205.150.199.217]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24718-04 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:43:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [70.26.229.230]) by m21.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD555C379 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:43:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [10.55.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D42C3D3B for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:43:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:43:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <43254DDC.8831.4774473@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at unixathome.org Subject: netsaint - specifying a listening address X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:43:59 -0000 Gidday! I'm setting up a new host to be monitored by netsaint[1]. I'm using netsaint_statd on the remote host to report status from that host. One of the issues is that netsaint_statd listens on all IP addresses (i.e. 0.0.0.0). The line in question is: bind(Server, sockaddr_in($port, INADDR_ANY)) || die "Can't bind to socket: $!\n"; I think what I need to do is change INADDR_ANY to optionally be a user-supplied value. Any perl hackers out there want to show me how to do this in simple way please? Thanks. [1] - Yes, I'm still using NetSaint, and not Nagios. I have no reason to change. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference - http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 19:42:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B9016A424 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:42:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krod77@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFDD43D46 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:42:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krod77@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z31so276719nzd for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:42:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=UdzA4GLwa3ayHMyvDmKecFRxb5xMxNwVrgBYGYfzftqkQtolA4oXEl4IfaWMPraqOhibT//sxcMwhYgyL/kWmNaCgpU3TT3Dct9q/NH89ogY5x3GgiHY2GiC0Sg6+TmXxI9kunGkobH4FskQl2frpvrl7HidDNY4gOmquPK/2+4= Received: by 10.36.7.17 with SMTP id 17mr227275nzg; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.250.70 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:42:52 -0400 From: Jared To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050911191954.O87302@x12.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <43227C43.4040304@makeworld.com> <4322BC29.1050608@xs4all.nl> <20050911191954.O87302@x12.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: FreeBSD on IRC X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: krod77@gmail.com List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:42:59 -0000 On 9/11/05, Soeren Straarup wrote:=20 >=20 > On Sat, 10 Sep 2005, Hans Nieser wrote: >=20 > > Chris wrote: > >> I just wanted to make a note - in the past I pushed that FreeBSD on IR= C > >> is a good place for users to seek help - Well, I have been proven=20 > wrong. > >> > >> While it's true there MAY be a few decent IRC channels that actually > >> offer help with FreeBSD, I can now say that I was wrong to assume that > >> the majority of FBSD channels on IRC offer any type of FBSD help or=20 > even > >> care if they offer help. > >> > >> While I can't speak for EFNet, UnderNet and FreeNode - I can say for > >> sure that there are certain channels on DALNet that are NOT help=20 > channels. > >> > >> While there are some decent users on IRC networks overall, it really > >> comes down to the management. And in the end - it's the management tha= t > >> makes the channel. > > > > I'm a new FreeBSD user coming pretty much straight from Windows (well, = I > > have tinkered with linux a bit in the past), and I've been hanging out= =20 > in > > #freebsd on FreeNode and QuakeNET and found them great places to get=20 > help. > > > > Despite the fact that some of my questions that I have asked in either > > channels could probably be answered by some googling or wading through > > manpages, I've only been told to RTFM one or twice ;) >=20 > I'm on #FreeBSD at undernet and been there since 1998. > It is not a spoon feeding channel, but asking the right questions one get= s > often pointed in the right direction of reading material. >=20 > http://www.freebsddiary.org is also a nice place to lookup info on stuff > about freebsd .. >=20 > Best regards > S=F8ren Straarup >=20 > Soeren Straarup | aka OZ2DAK aka Xride > FreeBSD wannabe | FreeBSD since 2.2.6-R > 'We wanted to believe. But the tools > had been taken away..' Mulder >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org "#freebsd on freenode is a worthless channel full of venomous channel > operators who ban for grammar, and spelling mistakes." This is not true. --=20 > Cheers, > Jared > --http://phoenix-network.org > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 13:05:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB34516A41F for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:05:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from m21.unixathome.org (m21.unixathome.org [205.150.199.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD9543D45 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:05:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [205.150.199.217]) by m21.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B875CC383 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:05:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m21.unixathome.org ([205.150.199.217]) by localhost (m21.unixathome.org [205.150.199.217]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28768-08 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:05:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [70.26.229.230]) by m21.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDBFC382 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [10.55.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319153D3B for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:05:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:05:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4327E7DC.23872.EA0C81F@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at unixathome.org Subject: serial consoles X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:05:36 -0000 I'll looking for a serial console or two... If you know of some. thanks. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference - http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 18:21:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB0816A41F for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:21:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from m21.unixathome.org (m21.unixathome.org [205.150.199.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C23E43D46 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:21:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [205.150.199.217]) by m21.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834FBBFB6 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:21:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m21.unixathome.org ([205.150.199.217]) by localhost (m21.unixathome.org [205.150.199.217]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12250-06 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:21:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [70.26.229.230]) by m21.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1A9BFB3 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:21:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [10.55.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B543D3B for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:21:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:21:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <432831F3.2596.FC23310@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <4327E7DC.23872.EA0C81F@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at unixathome.org Subject: Re: serial consoles X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:21:41 -0000 On 14 Sep 2005 at 9:05, Dan Langille wrote: > I'll looking for a serial console or two... If you know of some. > thanks. Sorry, I don't mean tip, or cu... I meant a hardward terminal server, that you'd plug several serial consoles into... -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference - http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 19:47:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5919316A41F for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:47:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eh-lists-freebsd@critical.ch) Received: from smtp.hispeed.ch (mxout.hispeed.ch [62.2.95.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC50F43D55 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:47:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eh-lists-freebsd@critical.ch) Received: from beaver (217-162-251-247.dclient.hispeed.ch [217.162.251.247]) by smtp.hispeed.ch (8.12.6/8.12.6/tornado-1.0) with SMTP id j8EJlRkC016930; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:47:28 +0200 Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:47:28 +0200 From: Emanuel Haupt To: "Dan Langille" Message-Id: <20050914214728.59e973f0.eh-lists-freebsd@critical.ch> In-Reply-To: <432831F3.2596.FC23310@localhost> References: <4327E7DC.23872.EA0C81F@localhost> <432831F3.2596.FC23310@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.2, clamav-milter version 0.86 on smtp-07.tornado.cablecom.ch X-Virus-Status: Clean X-DCC-spamcheck-02.tornado.cablecom.ch-Metrics: smtp-07.tornado.cablecom.ch 32701; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial consoles X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:47:31 -0000 > > I'll looking for a serial console or two... If you know of some. > > thanks. > > Sorry, I don't mean tip, or cu... I meant a hardward terminal server, > that you'd plug several serial consoles into... we are using cyclades terminal servers for our 200+ isp server farm: http://www.cyclades.de/products/2/ts_series cheers, emanuel -- GnuPG key id: 0x55E67774 Download: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371 Key fingerprint: 17B3 FD8F BA68 4AB4 10FD A9D1 AD52 6588 55E6 7774 From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 20:06:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D23616A41F for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:06:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xi@borderworlds.dk) Received: from ferengi.borderworlds.dk (ferengi.borderworlds.dk [80.166.152.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C31143D48 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:06:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xi@borderworlds.dk) Received: from borg.borderworlds.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ferengi.borderworlds.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77517B83D; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:06:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: by borg.borderworlds.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 221FE1145E; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:06:28 +0200 (CEST) Sender: xi@borderworlds.dk To: "Dan Langille" References: <432831F3.2596.FC23310@localhost> From: Christian Laursen Date: 14 Sep 2005 22:06:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <432831F3.2596.FC23310@localhost> Message-ID: <86psrbct30.fsf@borg.borderworlds.dk> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial consoles X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:06:30 -0000 "Dan Langille" writes: > On 14 Sep 2005 at 9:05, Dan Langille wrote: > > > I'll looking for a serial console or two... If you know of some. > > thanks. > > Sorry, I don't mean tip, or cu... I meant a hardward terminal server, > that you'd plug several serial consoles into... Cisco 2511 has 16 serial ports that can be used for that. They can be bought on eBay for reasonable prices. -- Christian Laursen From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 20:30:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676BD16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:30:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA11443D45 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:30:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6950A6171; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:30:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from xps.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by tim.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B42616E; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:30:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: by xps.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1D1E233DA1; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:30:28 +0200 (CEST) To: Emanuel Haupt References: <4327E7DC.23872.EA0C81F@localhost> <432831F3.2596.FC23310@localhost> <20050914214728.59e973f0.eh-lists-freebsd@critical.ch> From: des@des.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:30:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20050914214728.59e973f0.eh-lists-freebsd@critical.ch> (Emanuel Haupt's message of "Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:47:28 +0200") Message-ID: <86oe6ve6jf.fsf@xps.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Tests: ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 X-Spam-Learn: ham X-Spam-Score: -5.2/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on tim.des.no Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial consoles X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:30:35 -0000 Emanuel Haupt writes: > we are using cyclades terminal servers for our 200+ isp server farm: > http://www.cyclades.de/products/2/ts_series very nice, very expensive (around EUR 1500 for 8 ports) DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 20:50:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE9D16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:50:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A8B43D49 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:50:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so28598wxd for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:50:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=W6pN/TGHMBCxH1H6LnubpJ6TD5p0GvfDvGPWrEHhY95K1MkYr8x7t9scMcfkiLiu0Hr1bUN2zpWlWP5kc/gzl96hXSB7qEZ3kfr/2G12XneVwvgOzAtQ29j+CEBcmsV9QpVs+mJWnHWM2NSqWSp3VXJczfoFY11muvKQfUnikbY= Received: by 10.70.65.17 with SMTP id n17mr38201wxa; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.66.19 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57d710000509141344567d1a05@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:44:14 -0700 From: pete wright To: Dan Langille In-Reply-To: <432831F3.2596.FC23310@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4327E7DC.23872.EA0C81F@localhost> <432831F3.2596.FC23310@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial consoles X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nomadlogic@gmail.com List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:50:42 -0000 On 9/14/05, Dan Langille wrote: >=20 > On 14 Sep 2005 at 9:05, Dan Langille wrote: >=20 > > I'll looking for a serial console or two... If you know of some. > > thanks. >=20 > Sorry, I don't mean tip, or cu... I meant a hardward terminal server, > that you'd plug several serial consoles into... you know dan, I used to work for a telemarketer agency that had litterally= =20 100's of terminals plugged into serial concentrators that were then hooked= =20 up to a SCO server. I'll look through my old notes tonight to see if I=20 recorded the name of these things. I am sure they were not too=20 expensive...you may find something similar at BlackBox, although they can b= e=20 pricey.... http://blackbox.com/Catalog/Detail.aspx?cid=3D381&mid=3D1992 although, like I said blackbox is expensive... -p -- > Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ > BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference - http://www.bsdcan.org/ >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 --=20 ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 23:43:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6E816A41F for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:43:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MH@kernel32.de) Received: from crivens.unixoid.de (crivens.unixoid.de [81.169.171.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D92A43D45 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:43:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MH@kernel32.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crivens.unixoid.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781C53FD4; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 01:43:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from crivens.unixoid.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (crivens.unixoid.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 85813-16; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 01:43:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.100.144] (G9cdb.g.pppool.de [80.185.156.219]) by crivens.unixoid.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D77C3EDC; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 01:43:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4328B5A9.6090503@kernel32.de> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 01:43:37 +0200 From: Marian Hettwer User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= References: <4327E7DC.23872.EA0C81F@localhost> <432831F3.2596.FC23310@localhost> <20050914214728.59e973f0.eh-lists-freebsd@critical.ch> <86oe6ve6jf.fsf@xps.des.no> In-Reply-To: <86oe6ve6jf.fsf@xps.des.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixoid.de Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, Emanuel Haupt Subject: Re: serial consoles X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:43:41 -0000 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > Emanuel Haupt writes: >=20 >>we are using cyclades terminal servers for our 200+ isp server farm: >>http://www.cyclades.de/products/2/ts_series >=20 >=20 > very nice, very expensive (around EUR 1500 for 8 ports) > depending on the amount of consoles you have, or the amount of old=20 console servers you could trade in, you can get the cyclades TS much=20 cheaper. Especially since the successor, the ACS is out (for 2 years now) :) Very good console servers, though :-) - Marian From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 00:18:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC92316A41F for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:18:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98ADD43D45 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:18:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with SMTP id j8F0Iduo043465; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:18:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: "Dan Langille" Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:19:10 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4327E7DC.23872.EA0C81F@localhost> <432831F3.2596.FC23310@localhost> In-Reply-To: <432831F3.2596.FC23310@localhost> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 205.211.164.50 Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial consoles X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:18:42 -0000 On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:21:39 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.chat you wrote: >On 14 Sep 2005 at 9:05, Dan Langille wrote: > >> I'll looking for a serial console or two... If you know of some. =20 >> thanks. > >Sorry, I don't mean tip, or cu... I meant a hardward terminal server,=20 >that you'd plug several serial consoles into... www.portmasters.com Check out the pm-25 with cables. $165USD for 25 ports. Works great. No ssh, but you could put a soekris in front of it for another $150 ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 mike@sentex.net, (http://www.tancsa.com) From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 11:19:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A1F16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:19:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A59243D46 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:19:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (xwfwne@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j8FBJd0s030499 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:19:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j8FBJdJp030498; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:19:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:19:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200509151119.j8FBJdJp030498@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20050905124654.5e8f9fce@localhost> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-chat User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-RELEASE (i386)) Cc: Subject: Re: ssh pre-login message X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:19:42 -0000 Jakob Breivik Grimstveit wrote: > Aaron Holmes wrote on Mon, 05 Sep 2005 03:11: > > I'm not entirely sure this is the proper place for this, but how can i > > get a pre-login message to show up before the "login as:" prompt on > > freebsd 5x > > From `man sshd_config`: > > Banner In some jurisdictions, sending a warning message before authenti- > cation may be relevant for getting legal protection. The con- > tents of the specified file are sent to the remote user before > authentication is allowed. This option is only available for > protocol version 2. By default, no banner is displayed. In case the OP had local logins in mind (syscons, not ssh), the have a look at the gettytab(5) manpage. It documents two capabilities that can be added to /etc/gettytab for local logins: The "im" capability for short banner strings (one line) that will be printed before the login prompt, and the "if" capability to specify a file name. After changing the gettytab, you need to kill the getty processes. They will be restarted automatically by init(8). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "Python tricks" is a tough one, cuz the language is so clean. E.g., C makes an art of confusing pointers with arrays and strings, which leads to lotsa neat pointer tricks; APL mistakes everything for an array, leading to neat one-liners; and Perl confuses everything period, making each line a joyous adventure . -- Tim Peters From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 11:23:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896C516A41F for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:23:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6924843D49 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:23:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lclejq@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j8FBNvI2030731 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:23:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j8FBNvfE030730; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:23:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:23:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200509151123.j8FBNvfE030730@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200509151119.j8FBJdJp030498@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-chat User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-RELEASE (i386)) Cc: Subject: Re: ssh pre-login message X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:23:59 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Jakob Breivik Grimstveit wrote: > > Aaron Holmes wrote on Mon, 05 Sep 2005 03:11: > > > I'm not entirely sure this is the proper place for this, but how can i > > > get a pre-login message to show up before the "login as:" prompt on > > > freebsd 5x > > > > From `man sshd_config`: > > > > Banner In some jurisdictions, sending a warning message before authenti > - > > cation may be relevant for getting legal protection. The con- > > tents of the specified file are sent to the remote user before > > authentication is allowed. This option is only available for > > protocol version 2. By default, no banner is displayed. > > In case the OP had local logins in mind (syscons, not ssh), oops ... I notice "ssh" was mentioned in the subject. So forget what I wrote. :-) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "Python is an experiment in how much freedom programmers need. Too much freedom and nobody can read another's code; too little and expressiveness is endangered." -- Guido van Rossum From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 15:13:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480D916A41F for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 15:13:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD68D43D48 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 15:13:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j8GFCQgM015101 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:12:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <432AE0CF.7020705@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:12:15 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050823 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Blow your own (company) horn.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 15:13:22 -0000 Hello, I have a client that, in short, isn't satisfied with their current web solution (that song quickly becomes a standard, doesn't it?). Who do you like that does the following: 1. SSH/FTP access. 2. Plenty of HD space. 3. High or unlimited transfer. 4. M$ Frontpage extensions (aherm!) 5. Shopping cart/secure payment gateway --- should be easy to use! As for my prefs: a. BSD/Linux (much preferred - BSD). b. Knowledgeable tech support. Cost is relative, and not of primary importance, but the access, cart and FP extensions are. DNS and mail aren't necessary - that's all in house. They actually liked our shopping cart, etc., but then they hired a happy-go-clicky Californian who convinced them that FrontPage is "easy". Unfortunately he doesn't know beans about servers, networking, etc., etc. ;-) I'm simply putting out as many feelers as possible on behalf of their management, who has always done well by us. What/who do you like? What does your company do? Maybe you can get one more account.... Thanks! Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P.