From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 04:36:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC6D16A420 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:36:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from smtp3.Stanford.EDU (smtp3.Stanford.EDU [171.67.16.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1803543D46 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:36:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by smtp3.Stanford.EDU (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9G4a1IR017496 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:36:02 -0700 Received: from localhost (nobody@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9G4a0vn008427 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:36:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:36:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051015213324.B8403@andrsn.stanford.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: What Happened to the Newbies Mailing List? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:36:04 -0000 I have just noticed (yes, I've been a little out of touch) that the newbies mailing list disappeared in March or April of this year. This is, probably, a good decision (technical questions were being asked, and often badly answered) but I'm just curious who decided and why. Annelise From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 04:39:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095DE16A420 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:39:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ext-gw.lemis.com (ext-gw.lemis.com [150.101.14.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7908143D46 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:39:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ext-gw.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D50131D4A; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:09:44 +0930 (CST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 226DF8521C; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:09:44 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:09:44 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Annelise Anderson Message-ID: <20051016043944.GH54467@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20051015213324.B8403@andrsn.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="byLs0wutDcxFdwtm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051015213324.B8403@andrsn.stanford.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What Happened to the Newbies Mailing List? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:39:46 -0000 --byLs0wutDcxFdwtm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday, 15 October 2005 at 21:36:00 -0700, Annelise Anderson wrote: > > I have just noticed (yes, I've been a little out of touch) Welcome back! It's been a while. > that the newbies mailing list disappeared in March or April of this > year. > > This is, probably, a good decision (technical questions > were being asked, and often badly answered) but I'm just > curious who decided and why. I had been suggesting it for a long time, for exactly the reasons you mentioned, but in the end, I think it was the Core Team. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --byLs0wutDcxFdwtm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDUdmQIubykFB6QiMRAu9vAKCccPh+guZ1S7Ml+CZ0eZGcpPOL4wCfWAOt kgFKcBe46k78xpVDHAvp070= =JAnG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --byLs0wutDcxFdwtm-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 14:33:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BBE16A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:33:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4775243D53 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:33:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9GEXC4h081229 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 07:33:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@bunrab.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9GEXC3e081228 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 07:33:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 07:33:12 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051016143312.GE69015@bunrab.catwhisker.org> References: <20051015213324.B8403@andrsn.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051015213324.B8403@andrsn.stanford.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: What Happened to the Newbies Mailing List? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:33:13 -0000 On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 09:36:00PM -0700, Annelise Anderson wrote: > > I have just noticed (yes, I've been a little out of touch) > that the newbies mailing list disappeared in March or April > of this year. > > This is, probably, a good decision (technical questions > were being asked, and often badly answered) but I'm just > curious who decided and why. Referring back to my notes from the time (Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:58:23 +0200), Wilko, wearing his "FreeBSD core team secretary" hat, sent a note to admins@ informing us that Core had, after some debate, "decided it does not add any usefulnes anymore" and requested that the list be removed. I did that shortly after receiving Wilko's message. Peace, david (current hat: postmaster@freebsd.org) -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Prediction is difficult, especially if it involves the future. -- Niels Bohr See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for public key. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 19:04:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0EB16A41F for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:04:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from evil@evildomain.org) Received: from evildomain.org (ppp-68-126-242-52.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net [68.126.242.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594B243D68 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:04:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from evil@evildomain.org) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (Valect@[192.168.1.7]) by evildomain.org (8.13.5/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9KJ4I11002345 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:04:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from evil@evildomain.org) Message-ID: <4357EA32.2090006@evildomain.org> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:04:18 -0700 From: Aaron Holmes User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: lost url X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:04:23 -0000 Hey, what was the url for those *bsd related news feeds? I lost it :/ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 19:46:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4128D16A420 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:46:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from liamfoy@sepulcrum.org) Received: from moutvdomng.kundenserver.de (moutvdom.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7251A43D66 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:45:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from liamfoy@sepulcrum.org) Received: from [212.227.126.224] (helo=mrvdomng.kundenserver.de) by moutvdomng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1ESgMN-0000OL-00; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:45:55 +0200 Received: from host86-130-156-125.range86-130.btcentralplus.com ([86.130.156.125] helo=localhost) by mrvdomng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1ESgMN-0000Dm-00; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:45:55 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:45:44 +0000 From: "Liam J. Foy" To: Aaron Holmes Message-ID: <20051020204544.GA761@ecthelion> References: <4357EA32.2090006@evildomain.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4357EA32.2090006@evildomain.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lost url X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:46:00 -0000 On 12:04, Thu 20 Oct 05, Aaron Holmes wrote: > Hey, what was the url for those *bsd related news feeds? I lost it :/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hey Aaron It's http://metawire.org/~liamfoy/bsdportal The hosting has gone down due to DOS. Am sick of these ******* kids! Cheers. -- Liam J. Foy liamfoy@sepulcrum.org