From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 2 03:00:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D9F16A41F; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 03:00:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) Received: from opusnet.com (mail.opusnet.com [209.210.200.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0563443D45; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 03:00:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) Received: from localhost.localhost [70.98.246.232] by opusnet.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id AD31610800DA; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 20:00:01 -0700 Received: from localhost.localhost (localhost.localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localhost (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9233AqJ009594; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 20:03:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localhost (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j92335rG009593; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 20:03:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <200510012321.j91NLEpP000186@freefall.freebsd.org> <20051001234152.GA1744@flame.pc> From: garys@opusnet.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 20:03:05 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20051001234152.GA1744@flame.pc> (Giorgos Keramidas's message of "Sun, 2 Oct 2005 02:41:53 +0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.17 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/84550: mdoc(7) manpage erroneously requires SYNOPSIS section X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 03:00:05 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas writes: > Err, sorry about this. I seem to have lost the original post. > My fault entirely, for which I apologise. No need for any of that. You weren't involved (yet) as I was dealing with Ruslan and wl at GNU.org and the changes were not important enough to bother re-importing until bigger changes are made. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 2 04:26:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C6C16A420; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 04:26:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sl151@waikato.ac.nz) Received: from newman.its.waikato.ac.nz (newman.its.waikato.ac.nz [130.217.66.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0A343D45; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 04:26:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sl151@waikato.ac.nz) Received: from ex4.its.waikato.ac.nz (ex4.its.waikato.ac.nz [130.217.70.144]) by newman.its.waikato.ac.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BF3127B8D; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 17:26:26 +1300 (NZDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 17:23:17 +1300 Message-ID: <53EF8EA01F1F5241BAB680A851B4F03F1E1250@ex4.its.waikato.ac.nz> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: The FreeBSD Traditional Chinese Documentation Project Thread-Index: AcXHCQOSaz8VdcDyQrCK7D++b2xn6Q== From: "Lin, Shih-Min" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: The FreeBSD Traditional Chinese Documentation Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 04:26:29 -0000 Hi, I noticed that the documents of "The FreeBSD Traditional Chinese = Documentation Project" seem to be out-dated. The mailing list = subscribing address "majordomo@freebsd.sinica.edu.tw" seems to be = invalid as well. Is the project still proceeding? If possible I would be = happy to give the project a hand (can't do too much at once, though). Best regards Sam =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D Welcome to Sam's Blog: http://semin.blogspot.com Any comments are welcome. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 2 08:43:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35FB16A41F for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 08:43:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kambizzz@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA5C43D46 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 08:43:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kambizzz@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i21so77726wra for ; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 01:43:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=OzDDAm1VCBTSbceCn071S9/CfdhJkcTI5k/6sz8hqDu85K694m7Gf1bjMgii5YOJ3bdesTrsiF/xGPv2/VrrG53oUeGVCTLDabIjC+BrjDl7uR7KEpFnefMblWSiL1YMWu3gPNOLMWi7wsQOynAkzXvipYcVs8g39yz/QisvdSM= Received: by 10.54.126.19 with SMTP id y19mr1293175wrc; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 01:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.84.13 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 01:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 16:43:20 +0800 From: Kambiz Agahian To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD Farsi (Persian) Translation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kambiz Agahian List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 08:43:21 -0000 Hi folks, I and my colleagues are ready to translate FreeBSD.org web pages and other docs to Farsi (Persian) language.Please let us know how we can contribute? Thank you for any comment. Sincerely, Kambiz From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 2 13:01:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E14A16A420; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 13:01:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F1943D55; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 13:01:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j92D1d30099318; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 13:01:39 GMT (envelope-from ru@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j92D1dl6099314; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 13:01:39 GMT (envelope-from ru) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 13:01:39 GMT From: Ruslan Ermilov Message-Id: <200510021301.j92D1dl6099314@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rosti.bsd@gmail.com, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, ru@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/85095: -q option of route(8) relates to a 'change' route command too X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 13:01:42 -0000 Synopsis: -q option of route(8) relates to a 'change' route command too State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Sun Oct 2 13:00:51 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in HEAD and RELENG_5, awaiting RELENG_6 commit approval. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ru Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Oct 2 13:00:51 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=85095 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 2 14:00:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3E316A41F for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 14:00:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CFF43D48 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 14:00:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C015DB4; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 10:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 91152-03; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 10:00:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-71-31.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.71.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DEF95CBB; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 10:00:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <433FE814.2020708@mac.com> Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 10:00:52 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kambiz Agahian References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Farsi (Persian) Translation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 14:00:50 -0000 Kambiz Agahian wrote: > Hi folks, > I and my colleagues are ready to translate FreeBSD.org web pages and other > docs to Farsi (Persian) language. Please let us know how we can contribute? > Thank you for any comment. Thanks for your interest. See here and here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/translations.html http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/translations.html -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 2 16:28:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A291F16A41F; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 16:28:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (vlsi00.si.noda.tus.ac.jp [133.31.130.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E68743D45; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 16:28:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p13123-adsau14honb8-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [220.106.49.123]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j92GRxk0072592; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 01:28:01 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by delta.allbsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j92GRjE1058809; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 01:27:45 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 01:26:19 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20051003.012619.102585493.hrs@allbsd.org> To: doc@FreeBSD.org, doc-committers@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 4.2.52 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Mon_Oct__3_01_26_19_2005_628)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.2, clamav-milter version 0.86 on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: re@FreeBSD.org Subject: HEADS UP: doc/ slush for 6.0R begins on 5 October, 2005 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 16:28:03 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Oct__3_01_26_19_2005_628)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Sorry for the late notice, but the doc slush for 6.0-RELEASE will begin on 5 October, 2005. The 6.0R schedule for the doc tree on www.FreeBSD.org will also be updated soon. The purpose of the doc slush is to slow down the rate of change in that tree in order to allow the translation teams time to finalize their work and to avoid last-minute breakage for the 6.0-RELEASE. As usual, this is not a real freeze and requires no formal commit approval procedure for your commit, but you are kindly requested not to commit large, structural changes during that period. Tagging of the doc tree is scheduled to take place on 10 October, 2005. Thank you for your cooperation and keep up the good work! -- | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Oct__3_01_26_19_2005_628)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDQAotTyzT2CeTzy0RAsFKAKCcqxt58REMBgXOHKFEAhg8rXQ39QCeJlFP riac3sAzKKXcAv8w+pedcSo= =O9b8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Oct__3_01_26_19_2005_628)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 3 11:00:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A9616A422 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 11:00:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774D543D48 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 11:00:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j93B0kAZ065182 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 11:00:46 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j93B0jFn065174 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 11:00:45 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 11:00:45 GMT Message-Id: <200510031100.j93B0jFn065174@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:00:47 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/05/24] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () s [2002/03/08] docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for o [2002/03/21] docs/36168 doc -pthread/_THREAD_SAFE docs missing in gcc o [2003/12/29] docs/60679 doc pthreads documentation does not describe o [2004/01/20] docs/61605 doc Improve documentation for i386 disk geome o [2004/10/03] docs/72285 doc GCC manuals are out of sync o [2004/10/15] docs/72743 doc Porter's Handbook lacks info on using aut o [2004/10/19] docs/72897 doc ERRATA and RELNOTES are missing warnings o [2005/02/25] docs/78062 doc Sample Echo Pseudo-Device Driver for Free o [2005/02/27] docs/78154 doc [PATCH] Make en_US FreeBSD Handbook more o [2005/03/03] docs/78357 doc getaddrinfo()'s AI_ADDRCONFIG not documen o [2005/04/07] docs/79658 doc Freebsd Handbook incorrect about ATAPI CD o [2005/04/13] docs/79857 doc manpage about ntp is wrong o [2005/05/10] docs/80843 doc [patch] Suggested doc fix for psm0 / hand o [2005/06/15] docs/82296 doc ttys(5) man page misleads about use for n o [2005/07/20] docs/83771 doc handbook/raid.html and atacontrol o [2005/09/08] docs/85867 doc dumpon.8 is missing crucial information o [2005/09/24] docs/86532 doc [patch] wpa_supplicant.conf man page shou 18 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [1999/09/17] docs/13787 doc lnc driver isn't really the lnc driver s [2000/07/19] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/02/02] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string s [2001/06/03] docs/27843 doc [PATCH] make.conf WITH_* variables aren't o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2002/01/05] docs/33589 doc Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process . o [2002/01/09] docs/33724 doc [patch] fix Handbook error about Advanced o [2002/01/14] docs/33852 doc split(1) man page implies that input file o [2002/01/14] docs/33877 doc Documented behaviour of SF_flags for non- a [2002/02/16] docs/35011 doc There are no commands called "diskless" o o [2002/02/22] docs/35222 doc mailing list archive URL regexp suboptima o [2002/03/06] docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explana o [2002/03/06] docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long era o [2002/03/06] docs/35612 doc ps(1) page "state" description doesn't me o [2002/03/07] docs/35642 doc lo(4) page maybe should document optional o [2002/03/07] docs/35644 doc lo(4) page presumes familiarity with prin o [2002/03/07] docs/35646 doc cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. o [2002/03/08] docs/35686 doc blackhole(4) page seems to contradict its o [2002/03/08] docs/35687 doc /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers o [2002/03/10] docs/35732 doc adduser(8) page has obsolete reference an o [2002/03/16] docs/35943 doc at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/ o [2002/03/16] docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wro o [2002/03/28] docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded bo o [2002/03/29] docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailin s [2002/05/07] docs/37843 doc manual for pthread_setschedparam is wrong o [2002/05/25] docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to exist o [2002/05/27] docs/38620 doc Committers Guide and CVS o [2002/05/31] docs/38772 doc firewall_type feature not mentioned on Ha o [2002/06/07] docs/38982 doc developers-hanbook/Jail fix o [2002/06/15] docs/39348 doc kenv fetch of hostname requires dhcp/boot o [2002/06/19] docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broa o [2002/06/25] docs/39824 doc Various tweaks for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/bo o [2002/07/10] docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to o [2002/07/21] docs/40851 doc [PATCH] "mergemaster -p" in UPDATING's "C o [2002/07/28] docs/41089 doc pax -B option does not mention interactio o [2002/08/02] docs/41270 doc confusing directions for kernelconfig cha o [2002/08/20] docs/41807 doc natd -punch_fw "bug" o [2002/08/20] docs/41820 doc Device driver confusion in Handbook (2.3) a [2002/08/27] docs/42058 doc Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto o [2002/10/04] docs/43651 doc stab(5) incorrectly states to include jus o [2002/10/08] docs/43823 doc [PATCH] update to environ(7) manpage o [2002/10/09] docs/43861 doc non-trivial typo in wicontrol man page o [2002/10/11] docs/43941 doc Rationale for Upgrade Sequence o [2002/10/15] docs/44074 doc ln(1) manual clarifications [patch] o [2002/10/29] docs/44594 doc Handbook doesn't mention drivers.flp for o [2002/12/02] docs/45940 doc burncd missing info o [2002/12/11] docs/46196 doc Missing return value in (set_)menu_format o [2002/12/16] docs/46291 doc correlation between HZ kernel config para o [2002/12/16] docs/46295 doc please add information to Nvi recovery em o [2003/01/28] docs/47575 doc Clarify requirements for IPFW2 in STABLE o [2003/01/28] docs/47594 doc [PATCH] passwd(5) incorrectly states allo o [2003/02/02] docs/47818 doc ln(1) manpage is confusing o [2003/02/08] docs/48101 doc There's no documentation on the fixit dis o [2003/03/06] docs/48980 doc [PATCH] nsgmls -s errors and sect. 3.2.1 o [2003/03/23] docs/50211 doc [PATCH] Fix textfile creation o [2003/04/03] docs/50573 doc return values for res_query/res_search/re o [2003/04/07] docs/50677 doc [PATCH] update doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ o [2003/05/06] docs/51875 doc [patch] atkbd(4) adjustment o [2003/05/06] docs/51891 doc DIAGNOSTICS in ed driver manpage don't ma o [2003/05/07] docs/51921 doc ls(1) manpage lacks some information abou o [2003/05/11] docs/52071 doc [PATCH] Add more information about soft u o [2003/06/21] docs/53575 doc Change to Handbook Section 20.9 o [2003/06/21] docs/53596 doc Updates to mt manual page o [2003/06/25] docs/53732 doc quota output and man page do not document o [2003/07/13] docs/54451 doc [patch] i386_{get|set}_ldt manual page is o [2003/07/26] docs/54879 doc man 1 jot, -r description o [2003/08/12] docs/55482 doc DUMP has access to block devices in a JAI o [2003/09/24] docs/57153 doc S_IRWXU missing in fstat(2) man page? o [2003/09/30] docs/57388 doc INSTALL.TXT enhancement: mention ok promp o [2003/10/04] docs/57569 doc error on gensetdefs(8) man page o [2003/10/13] docs/57926 doc amd.conf.5 poorly format as it has both m o [2003/10/13] docs/57974 doc man page apropos for select macros (FD_SE o [2003/10/13] docs/57978 doc Type miss of GPIB in Hardware Notes o [2003/10/16] docs/58111 doc Handbook 12.4.3 Rebuilding ATA RAID1 Arra o [2003/10/28] docs/58615 doc update for Vinum chapter of Handbook: des o [2003/10/30] docs/58710 doc killpg(2) contains an error regarding sen o [2003/11/07] docs/59044 doc doc.docbook.mk does not properly handle a o [2003/11/19] docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.fr o [2003/11/30] docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about acce o [2003/12/23] docs/60529 doc resolver(5) man page is badly out of date o [2003/12/24] docs/60544 doc getenv(3) manpage doesn't state the retur o [2004/01/08] docs/61070 doc handbook: Installation docs misleading: o [2004/01/13] docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enabl o [2004/01/21] docs/61667 doc Obsolete documentation on FreeBSD PnP o [2004/01/25] docs/61859 doc Incorrect informaiton about trace command o [2004/02/05] docs/62402 doc easily circumventable Blade150 problem o [2004/02/06] docs/62412 doc one of the diskless boot methods describe o [2004/02/12] docs/62719 doc cross-reference pccardd and devd o [2004/02/12] docs/62724 doc host(1) manpage does not include informat o [2004/02/22] docs/63215 doc Wrong prototypes in mi_switch(9) (ref doc o [2004/03/27] docs/64807 doc Handbook section on NAT incomplete o [2004/04/02] docs/65065 doc improper language ntpd man pages o [2004/04/13] docs/65477 doc Installation Instruction fail to mention o [2004/04/14] docs/65530 doc minor improvement to getgrent.3 o [2004/05/04] docs/66264 doc [patch] libexec/rtld/rtld.1 typo fixes no o [2004/05/04] docs/66265 doc [patch] Document what -f and LD_TRACE_LOA o [2004/05/05] docs/66296 doc [patch] contrib/amd/amq/amq.8 uses log_op o [2004/05/07] docs/66343 doc unlisted supported card on man page for w o [2004/05/10] docs/66483 doc [patch] share/man/man4/csa.4 grammar nits o [2004/05/17] docs/66768 doc 4_RELENG share/man/man4/ng_one2many.4 MFC o [2004/05/17] docs/66770 doc [patch] share/man/man4/ng_pppoe.4 tyops, o [2004/05/23] docs/67078 doc [patch] MFC of a rtld(1) man page is inco f [2004/06/10] docs/67806 doc [patch] Let 5.x users know how to boot in o [2004/06/13] docs/67893 doc boot.8's -m description is insufficient. o [2004/06/28] docs/68453 doc [patch] rc.subr.8 o [2004/07/02] docs/68606 doc Porter's Handbook: document how to write o [2004/07/09] docs/68843 doc Dates on rc.subr(8) & rc(8) are whack. o [2004/07/09] docs/68845 doc The .At macro produces unexpected results o [2004/08/01] docs/69861 doc [patch] usr.bin/csplit/csplit.1 does not o [2004/08/09] docs/70217 doc Suggested rewrite of docproj/sgml.sgml o [2004/08/16] docs/70555 doc [patch] changes to freebsd-glossary o [2004/08/20] docs/70697 doc pcm(4) is out of date o [2004/09/10] docs/71555 doc how to run matlab on 5.2 o [2004/09/13] docs/71690 doc [patch] inaccurate information in systat( o [2004/09/16] docs/71782 doc mount_nfs man page is a bit out of date f [2004/09/21] docs/71980 doc Handbook says that no other software is k o [2004/10/06] docs/72383 doc manpage for awk(1) is terribly small and o [2004/11/06] docs/73583 doc [patch] add missing instructions to ndis( o [2004/11/07] docs/73638 doc ipfw(8): Clarify syntax for use of tables o [2004/11/08] docs/73679 doc FreeBSD 5.3 Release notes mention new nat o [2004/11/28] docs/74477 doc [patch] Correct several links in the cont o [2004/12/02] docs/74612 doc [patch] updates to the glossary o [2004/12/14] docs/75068 doc login.conf(5) manual page says nothing ab o [2004/12/28] docs/75577 doc typos in man3 manual pages, login_class.3 o [2005/01/05] docs/75865 doc comments on "backup-basics" in handbook o [2005/01/09] docs/75995 doc hcreate documentation(?) bug o [2005/01/11] docs/76094 doc Incorrect statement about partition d o [2005/01/17] docs/76333 doc EOF indicator can be cleared by not only o [2005/01/20] docs/76515 doc missleading use of make -j flag in handbo o [2005/02/04] docs/77087 doc The bootvinum script given in the handboo o [2005/02/24] docs/78041 doc docs for md need further explanation of t o [2005/02/27] docs/78138 doc Error in pre-installation section of inst o [2005/03/01] docs/78240 doc Replace with around a # o [2005/03/02] docs/78275 doc Keyword size needs to be changed to lengt o [2005/03/06] docs/78479 doc SO_NOSIGPIPE socket option undocumented o [2005/03/06] docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily com o [2005/03/07] docs/78520 doc error in man(5) lpd.conf, lpd.perms pages o [2005/03/16] docs/78915 doc rfork()'s RFTHREAD is not documented o [2005/03/23] docs/79156 doc buffersize knob for sound(4) is a tunable o [2005/04/18] docs/80070 doc [patch] Wrong dbm_close return value desc o [2005/04/20] docs/80159 doc [patch] rtld(1) mentions "%m" but it's no o [2005/05/11] docs/80871 doc terminfo(5) man page source corrupted o [2005/06/01] docs/81776 doc ifconfig(8) man page not updated with car o [2005/06/10] docs/82114 doc Misisng ndisapi(9) manual page o [2005/06/21] docs/82481 doc tar/gtar man page mod request o [2005/06/22] docs/82508 doc misleading man page for basename/dirname o [2005/06/24] docs/82595 doc 25.5.3 Configuring a bridge section of th o [2005/06/29] docs/82779 doc [patch] Kill entry for ddb manpage o [2005/07/17] docs/83621 doc [patch]: Minor omissions in /usr/src/UPDA o [2005/07/24] docs/84021 doc Missing manpage on RELENG_6 o [2005/07/27] docs/84154 doc Handbook somewhat off in use of /boot/ker o [2005/07/29] docs/84265 doc [patch] chmod(1) manpage omits implicatio o [2005/07/29] docs/84267 doc chflags(1) manual doesn't say it's affect o [2005/07/29] docs/84268 doc chmod(1) manpage's BUGS entry is either w o [2005/07/29] docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME di o [2005/07/31] docs/84408 doc dump(8) manpage doesn't require an option o [2005/07/31] docs/84409 doc vinum-object-naming.html -v/-U typo o [2005/08/02] docs/84467 doc bsdlabel(8) manpage uses archaic "pack" i o [2005/08/03] docs/84509 doc Update some items at porters handbook abo s [2005/08/03] docs/84519 doc [patch] mdoc(7) manpage needs more about o [2005/08/04] docs/84538 doc sk(4) driver supports Marvell 88E800x chi o [2005/08/04] docs/84549 doc [patch] errno(2) manpage uses "<...>" for s [2005/08/04] docs/84550 doc mdoc(7) manpage erroneously requires SYNO o [2005/08/06] docs/84620 doc [patch] xargs(1) manpage has "utility" an o [2005/08/07] docs/84645 doc intro(6) manpage should always be install o [2005/08/07] docs/84646 doc terminfo(5) manpage confuses man program. o [2005/08/08] docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONME o [2005/08/10] docs/84764 doc [patch] hosts.equiv(5) manpage should SEE o [2005/08/11] docs/84790 doc Error in SYSCALL_MODULE(9) manual page o [2005/08/11] docs/84806 doc mdoc(7) manpage has section ordering prob o [2005/08/12] docs/84849 doc [patch] fdisk(8) manpage doesn't warn fdi o [2005/08/14] docs/84913 doc bsdlabel(8) manpage seems wrong about fsi o [2005/08/15] docs/84955 doc [patch] mdoc(7) manpage should mention mi o [2005/08/15] docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention o [2005/08/15] docs/84961 doc [patch] Sync NDIS documentation with real o [2005/08/17] docs/85062 doc tr(1) manpage omits several character cla o [2005/08/17] docs/85063 doc expand(1) manpage needs to clarify -t opt o [2005/08/17] docs/85066 doc [patch] builtin(1) manpage has incomplete o [2005/08/18] docs/85097 doc [patch] devd.conf.5 lacks a lot of vital o [2005/08/18] docs/85100 doc ICH audio device support statement is amb o [2005/08/19] docs/85103 doc sh(1) manpage doesn't contain the word "c o [2005/08/19] docs/85118 doc [PATCH] opiekey(1) references non-existin o [2005/08/19] docs/85127 doc loader(8) manpage uses too-rare "depurati o [2005/08/19] docs/85128 doc loader.conf autoboot_delay incompletly de o [2005/08/21] docs/85186 doc ktrace(1) manpage doesn't warn about need o [2005/08/21] docs/85187 doc find(1) manpage missing block info for -l o [2005/08/21] docs/85194 doc man ssh(1) -o description o [2005/08/22] docs/85209 doc pfsync man page corrections o [2005/08/22] docs/85232 doc [PATCH] instructions on building web site o [2005/08/23] docs/85243 doc Missing icmp related abbreviations for pf o [2005/08/27] docs/85353 doc Very little cosmetic/ponctuation changes o [2005/08/29] docs/85425 doc fido (watchdog) device /dev/fido not docu o [2005/09/11] docs/85986 doc FreeBSD keyword missing if you display se o [2005/09/12] docs/86028 doc [patch] Add Ruby to the list of interpret o [2005/09/13] docs/86044 doc man 8 jail missing crucial mount in start o [2005/09/13] docs/86090 doc [PATCH] clarification of rc.conf(5) manua o [2005/09/19] docs/86342 doc bikeshed entry of Handbook is wrong o [2005/09/29] docs/86733 doc [patch] Add using kldload as an alternati 201 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 3 13:28:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7395416A427 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 13:28:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FFE43D45 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 13:28:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j93DSxOp079490 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 13:28:59 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j93DSwep079489 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 13:28:59 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 13:28:59 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200510031328.j93DSwep079489@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 13:28:59 -0000 ===> doc/articles/laptop ===> doc/articles/linux-comparison ===> doc/articles/mailing-list-faq ===> doc/articles/mh ===> doc/articles/multi-os ===> doc/articles/new-users ===> doc/articles/pam ===> doc/articles/portbuild ===> doc/articles/pr-guidelines ===> doc/articles/problem-reports ===> doc/articles/pxe ===> doc/articles/relaydelay ===> doc/articles/releng ===> doc/articles/releng-packages ===> doc/articles/serial-uart ===> doc/articles/solid-state ===> doc/articles/storage-devices ===> doc/articles/version-guide ===> doc/articles/vinum ===> doc/articles/vm-design ===> doc/articles/zip-drive ===> doc/books ===> doc/books/arch-handbook ===> doc/books/corp-net-guide ===> doc/books/design-44bsd ===> doc/books/dev-model ===> doc/books/developers-handbook ===> doc/books/faq ===> doc/books/fdp-primer ===> doc/books/handbook /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.relprefix.4 -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -i chap.index -i chap.audit -i chap.advanced-networking -i chap.basics -i chap.bibliography -i chap.boot -i chap.config -i chap.cutting-edge -i chap.desktop -i chap.disks -i chap.eresources -i chap.firewalls -i chap.geom -i chap.install -i chap.introduction -i chap.kernelconfig -i chap.l10n -i chap.linuxemu -i chap.mac -i chap.mail -i chap.mirrors -i chap.multimedia -i chap.network-servers -i chap.pgpkeys -i chap.ports -i chap.ppp-and-slip -i chap.printing -i chap.security -i chap.serialcomms -i chap.users -i chap.vinum -i chap.x11 -i chap.freebsd-glossary -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbo ok/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml /usr/local/bin/jade:/w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pgpkeys/chapter.sgml:596:7:E: general entity "pgpkey.ehaupt" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/jade:/w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pgpkeys/chapter.sgml:597:11:E: end tag for "SECT2" which is not finished *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/doc. *** Error code 1 (ignored) *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 312.88 real 258.58 user 11.81 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 3 18:40:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A34F16A41F for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:40:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE67A43D46 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:40:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j93IeLl4034769 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:40:21 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j93IeLgt034768; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:40:21 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:40:21 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200510031840.j93IeLgt034768@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, "Arjan van Leeuwen" Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740CB16A420 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:31:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from avleeuwen@piwebs.com) Received: from gimp.piwebs.com (82-197-201-59.dsl.cambrium.nl [82.197.201.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF8C43D46 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:31:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from avleeuwen@piwebs.com) Received: (qmail 43708 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2005 18:31:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO winston.piwebs.com) (192.168.0.65) by gimp.piwebs.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2005 18:31:08 -0000 Message-Id: <1128364126.0@winston.piwebs.com> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 20:28:46 +0200 From: "Arjan van Leeuwen" To: "FreeBSD gnats submit" X-Send-Pr-Version: gtk-send-pr 0.4.4 Cc: Subject: docs/86876: Opera is now ad-free for everybody, reflect in handbook desktop chapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:40:22 -0000 >Number: 86876 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Opera is now ad-free for everybody, reflect in handbook desktop chapter >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Oct 03 18:40:21 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Arjan van Leeuwen >Release: FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0: Tue Sep 27 19:42:07 CEST 2005 avleeuwen@winston.piwebs.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP >Description: Opera is now a completely free application. Correct the handbook paragraph that mentions the paid version of Opera (handbook/desktop/chapter.sgml). >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- chapter.sgml.diff begins here --- --- chapter.sgml Mon Oct 3 20:17:43 2005 +++ chapter.sgml.new Mon Oct 3 20:20:44 2005 @@ -325,9 +325,8 @@ full-featured, and standards-compliant browser. It comes in two favors: a native FreeBSD version and a version that runs under Linux emulation. - For each operating system, there is a no-cost version of the - browser that displays advertising and an ad-free - version that can be purchased on the Opera web site. To browse the Web with the FreeBSD version of Opera, --- chapter.sgml.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 4 18:58:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE2516A41F for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 18:58:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ambrisko@ambrisko.com) Received: from mail.ambrisko.com (mail.ambrisko.com [64.174.51.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5552443D48 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 18:58:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ambrisko@ambrisko.com) Received: from server2.ambrisko.com (HELO www.ambrisko.com) ([192.168.1.2]) by mail.ambrisko.com with ESMTP; 04 Oct 2005 11:58:11 -0700 Received: from ambrisko.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.ambrisko.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j94IwBSN092614 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 11:58:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ambrisko@ambrisko.com) Received: (from ambrisko@localhost) by ambrisko.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j94IwBAb092613 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 11:58:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ambrisko) From: Doug Ambrisko Message-Id: <200510041858.j94IwBAb092613@ambrisko.com> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 11:58:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL94b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: I have FreeBSD Open IPMI like driver that I need a man page for X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:58:12 -0000 Hi doc's team, I have an OpenIPMI like driver ready to commit to FreeBSD except for a man page. I thought I read the doc's team might be able to help. The man page is a little complicated in that in needs to document the ioctl interface. It isn't a full OpenIPMI interface but just enough to let ipmitool talk to the local IPMI controller directly. Please let me know if any of you are willing to help and I can send you the driver. I'd like to commit the drive but have been holding off since I don't have a man page and that's against the rules. Thanks, Doug A. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 4 21:02:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B5D16A41F for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 21:02:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from acilate@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B049943D46 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 21:02:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from acilate@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t6so6617wxc for ; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 14:02:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=VxnohteNj2ugYRy7cAALu0GyyHP1LZGth14uv/LR/qWbEqdorFSlA+rKLpA26M3C/f9GRIeefEZ10kTF4gTgtTTUlpUg7ybcTQIQt45aGJC2KWIZyzUXeXBr13XL0UR7aGsk0cnP49Y31g7slMboCFNEB7KAuQ6seWlagWhKsAQ= Received: by 10.70.12.19 with SMTP id 19mr16920wxl; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 14:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.20.3 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 14:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <43eb295e0510041402k69d62083y6c33016da73d07cd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 14:02:04 -0700 From: Nick Pennock To: doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD/amd64 5.4-RELEASE Installation Instructions X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pennock List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:02:06 -0000 While reading http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.4R/installation-amd64.html#FLOPPIES I cam= e across a contradiction, step 1.3 indicates you cannot install FreeBSD/AMD64 via floppy, but step 1.4 indicates you can, and tells you to read step 1.3for instructions on how to do it. Thanks, Nick -- SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue > 0; 0 rows returned From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 5 07:03:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DFB16A41F; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 07:03:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [69.50.233.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB22C43D48; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 07:03:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id A00631CC62; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 00:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 00:03:29 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: doceng@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20051005070329.GI33970@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Cc: Subject: Re-enabling the web build script X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 07:03:30 -0000 I'd like to re-enable the web build script in 12 hours or so and make the new site design live. The English and Japanese websites should now build from CVS. Can everyone please take a look at the latest code in CVS and look for any major problems that need to be fixed before going live? Thanks, - Murray From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 5 07:28:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9CBD16A41F; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 07:28:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (vlsi00.si.noda.tus.ac.jp [133.31.130.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B06843D45; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 07:28:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p13123-adsau14honb8-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [220.106.49.123]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j957SWMq022089; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 16:28:34 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by delta.allbsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j957S9Df010013; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 16:28:10 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:27:35 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20051005.162735.35674709.hrs@allbsd.org> To: murray@freebsdmall.com From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20051005070329.GI33970@freebsdmall.com> References: <20051005070329.GI33970@freebsdmall.com> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 4.2.52 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Wed_Oct__5_16_27_36_2005_141)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.2, clamav-milter version 0.86 on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: doceng@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Re-enabling the web build script X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 07:28:35 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Wed_Oct__5_16_27_36_2005_141)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Murray Stokely wrote in <20051005070329.GI33970@freebsdmall.com>: mu> I'd like to re-enable the web build script in 12 hours or so and make mu> the new site design live. The English and Japanese websites should mu> now build from CVS. Can everyone please take a look at the latest mu> code in CVS and look for any major problems that need to be fixed mu> before going live? AFAICT, es, fr, it, ru, and tr cannot build at this moment. Index: en/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.126 diff -d -u -I\$FreeBSD:.*\$ -I\$NetBSD:.*\$ -I\$OpenBSD:.*\$ -I\$DragonFly:.*\$ -I\$Id:.*\$ -I\$Translation:.*\$ -I\$hrs:.*\$ -r1.126 Makefile --- en/Makefile 4 Oct 2005 17:23:55 -0000 1.126 +++ en/Makefile 5 Oct 2005 07:20:46 -0000 @@ -86,7 +86,8 @@ SUBDIR+= gifs SUBDIR+= layout -WEB_LANG?= da de es fr it ja nl pt_BR ru tr zh +#WEB_LANG?= da de es fr it ja nl pt_BR ru tr zh +WEB_LANG?= da de ja nl pt_BR zh # Non-English ----Security_Multipart(Wed_Oct__5_16_27_36_2005_141)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDQ4BpTyzT2CeTzy0RAuPgAJ9o3yJXxqx3tIM9GjHBzhkD3QzeGACeK4m3 dEucWpA/OqlSNxGkojoEL1E= =k+Mf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Wed_Oct__5_16_27_36_2005_141)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 5 10:39:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83D016A41F for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:39:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ale@FreeBSD.org) Received: from andxor.it (relay.andxor.it [195.223.2.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD4C643D46 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:39:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ale@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 92491 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2005 10:39:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.5?) (192.168.2.5) by andxor.it with SMTP; 5 Oct 2005 10:39:37 -0000 Message-ID: <4343AD68.6040500@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 12:39:36 +0200 From: Alex Dupre User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050924) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hiroki Sato References: <20051005070329.GI33970@freebsdmall.com> <20051005.162735.35674709.hrs@allbsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20051005.162735.35674709.hrs@allbsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doceng@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, murray@freebsdmall.com Subject: Re: Re-enabling the web build script X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 10:39:41 -0000 Hiroki Sato wrote: > AFAICT, es, fr, it, ru, and tr cannot build at this moment. I'll work on fixing "it" asap, in the meanwhile you can go on-line w/o it. -- Alex Dupre From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 5 21:38:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD3C16A41F for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:38:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CC643D45 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:38:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j95Lc166033209 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:38:01 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j95Lc1hQ033207 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:38:01 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:38:01 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200510052138.j95Lc1hQ033207@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 21:38:01 -0000 /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml machines.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' mirror.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/internal > mirror.html || (/bin/rm -f mirror.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml mirror.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' new-account.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/internal > new-account.html || (/bin/rm -f new-account.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml new-account.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' statistic.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/internal > statistic.html || (/bin/rm -f statistic.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml statistic.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' developer.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/internal > developer.html || (/bin/rm -f developer.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml developer.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' bylaws.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/internal > bylaws.html || (/bin/rm -f bylaws.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml bylaws.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' releng.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/internal > releng.html || (/bin/rm -f releng.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml releng.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' expire-bits.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/internal > expire-bits.html || (/bin/rm -f expire-bits.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml expire-bits.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' core-vote.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/internal > core-vote.html || (/bin/rm -f core-vote.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml core-vote.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' doceng.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/internal > doceng.html || (/bin/rm -f doceng.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml doceng.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' rtp.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/internal > rtp.html || (/bin/rm -f rtp.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml rtp.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' policies.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/internal > policies.html || (/bin/rm -f policies.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml policies.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/perl5 /w/www/build/www/en/internal/homepage.pl > homepage.inc /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' homepage.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/internal > homepage.html || (/bin/rm -f homepage.html && false) /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:0:5:61:E: cannot find "../../includes.navdocs.sgml"; tried "../../includes.navdocs.sgml", "/w/www/build/www/ru/internal/../../includes.navdocs.sgml" *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/ru/internal. *** Error code 1 (ignored) *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/ru. *** Error code 1 (ignored) *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 149.33 real 102.44 user 34.53 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 5 21:47:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2946A16A41F for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:47:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D669343D45 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:47:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j95LlTuC043319 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:47:29 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j95LlTqo043318 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:47:29 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:47:29 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200510052147.j95LlTqo043318@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 21:47:30 -0000 /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml machines.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' mirror.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/internal > mirror.html || (/bin/rm -f mirror.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml mirror.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' new-account.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/internal > new-account.html || (/bin/rm -f new-account.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml new-account.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' statistic.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/internal > statistic.html || (/bin/rm -f statistic.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml statistic.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' developer.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/internal > developer.html || (/bin/rm -f developer.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml developer.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) 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*** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/ru. *** Error code 1 (ignored) *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 245.58 real 174.88 user 53.58 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 5 21:56:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381FF16A41F; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:56:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: from zaphod.nitro.dk (cpe.atm2-0-71337.0x535ccf26.taanxx2.customer.tele.dk [83.92.207.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D431043D5C; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:56:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: by zaphod.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 3000) id 3D6B911AD1; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 23:56:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 23:56:55 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: World Wide Web Owner Message-ID: <20051005215654.GJ898@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: <200510052147.j95LlTqo043318@www.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VSaCG/zfRnOiPJtU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510052147.j95LlTqo043318@www.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 21:56:58 -0000 --VSaCG/zfRnOiPJtU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2005.10.05 21:47:29 +0000, World Wide Web Owner wrote: [...] > /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml policies.ht= ml > *** Error code 1 (ignored) > /usr/bin/perl5 /w/www/build/www/en/internal/homepage.pl > homepage.inc > /usr/bin/sed -e 's/= //' homepage.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_C= ATALOG_FILES=3D /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr= /local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/ru/internal > homepage.h= tml || (/bin/rm -f homepage.html && false) > /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:0:5:61:E: cannot find "../../includes.navdo= cs.sgml"; tried "../../includes.navdocs.sgml", "/w/www/build/www/ru/interna= l/../../includes.navdocs.sgml" > *** Error code 1 Fixed. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 00:01:33 -0000 I would like to express my sincere congratulations, to everyone involved in the process of creating the new web site! Congratulations! From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 6 01:19:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: docs@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C7E16A41F for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 01:19:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcus@FreeBSD.org) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (creme-brulee.marcuscom.com [24.172.16.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7544C43D46 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 01:19:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcus@FreeBSD.org) Received: from shumai.marcuscom.com (shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j961K1QP022906 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:20:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from marcus@FreeBSD.org) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: docs@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-zjU0fHyMxTQ0V90oTv8e" Organization: FreeBSD, Inc. Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 21:19:48 -0400 Message-Id: <1128561588.62455.13.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: Subject: New website rendering problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 01:19:51 -0000 --=-zjU0fHyMxTQ0V90oTv8e Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q27. I'm using and
 tags to display pre-formatted text.  However, it
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On Thursday,  6 October 2005 at  3:01:29 +0300, Leonidas Tsampros wrote:
> I would like to express my sincere congratulations, to everyone
> involved in the process of creating the new web site!

[not copying Leonidas]

I'd have been happier if it would render correctly.  At least the old
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On Wednesday,  5 October 2005 at 21:19:48 -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q27.  I'm
> using  and 
 tags to display pre-formatted text.  However, it
> comes out looking quite awful in the new layout.

Well, it would help to understand what you're seeing.  I see
fixed-width text that's about 50% too large.  Selecting normal or
large text size makes no difference.  But, unlike the home page, at
least it renders "correctly", without overlapping fields and texts
that overflow their boxes.

> What should I be using instead?

IE?  It looks as good as could be expected there, though even then it
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Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> On Wednesday,  5 October 2005 at 21:19:48 -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> 
>>Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q27.  I'm
>>using  and 
 tags to display pre-formatted text.  However, it
>>comes out looking quite awful in the new layout.
> 
> 
> Well, it would help to understand what you're seeing.  I see
> fixed-width text that's about 50% too large.  Selecting normal or
> large text size makes no difference.  But, unlike the home page, at
> least it renders "correctly", without overlapping fields and texts
> that overflow their boxes.
> 
> 
>>What should I be using instead?
> 
> 
> IE?  It looks as good as could be expected there, though even then it
> overflows the box a little bit.

Funny - it looks perfect for me on my FreeBSD 7 box with Mozilla.

Maybe you should snap a screen shot and post a link..

Eric



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On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 20:54 -0500, Eric Anderson wrote:
> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> > On Wednesday,  5 October 2005 at 21:19:48 -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrot=
e:
> >=20
> >>Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q27.  I'm
> >>using  and 
 tags to display pre-formatted text.  However, it
> >>comes out looking quite awful in the new layout.
> >=20
> >=20
> > Well, it would help to understand what you're seeing.  I see
> > fixed-width text that's about 50% too large.  Selecting normal or
> > large text size makes no difference.  But, unlike the home page, at
> > least it renders "correctly", without overlapping fields and texts
> > that overflow their boxes.
> >=20
> >=20
> >>What should I be using instead?
> >=20
> >=20
> > IE?  It looks as good as could be expected there, though even then it
> > overflows the box a little bit.
>=20
> Funny - it looks perfect for me on my FreeBSD 7 box with Mozilla.
>=20
> Maybe you should snap a screen shot and post a link..

This prompted me to check out other browsers.  I was using Epiphany, and
prior to the website update, the text rendered fine.    I just assumed
it would affect the other browsers as well since it was the only change.
But you're right.  Firefox, Mozilla, and Opera seem to do it right.

This is what I see in Epiphany:

http://www.marcuscom.com/downloads/gnome_site_font.png

Joe

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All,

I was so pleased with the rc.d framework when I met it closely for
the first time that I decided to write an article based on my
experience of learning how to write rc.d scripts.  Finally, I've
got something like the article. Here it is:

http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/rcng/

As usual, article.sgml is the source and article.html is an HTML
document built from it.

Looking forward for your comments and suggestions.  Thanks!

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On Wednesday,  5 October 2005 at 20:54:26 -0500, Eric Anderson wrote:
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>>
>>> Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q27.  I'm
>>> using  and 
 tags to display pre-formatted text.  However, it
>>> comes out looking quite awful in the new layout.
>>
>> Well, it would help to understand what you're seeing.  I see
>> fixed-width text that's about 50% too large.  Selecting normal or
>> large text size makes no difference.  But, unlike the home page, at
>> least it renders "correctly", without overlapping fields and texts
>> that overflow their boxes.
>>
>>> What should I be using instead?
>>
>> IE?  It looks as good as could be expected there, though even then it
>> overflows the box a little bit.
>
> Funny - it looks perfect for me on my FreeBSD 7 box with Mozilla.

You're probably running at a lower resolution.

> Maybe you should snap a screen shot and post a link..

I did a while back, when this was being discussed.  Anyway, take a
look at http://www.lemis.com/grog/Thumbnails-20051006.html, which
shows the two pages at 10% size.  Click on the images for 25% size,
and click on *those* images for full size.

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On Wednesday,  5 October 2005 at 21:59:27 -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 20:54 -0500, Eric Anderson wrote:
>> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>>> On Wednesday,  5 October 2005 at 21:19:48 -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
>>>> Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q27.  I'm
>>>> using  and 
 tags to display pre-formatted text.  However, it
>>>> comes out looking quite awful in the new layout.
>>>
>>> Well, it would help to understand what you're seeing.  I see
>>> fixed-width text that's about 50% too large.  Selecting normal or
>>> large text size makes no difference.  But, unlike the home page, at
>>> least it renders "correctly", without overlapping fields and texts
>>> that overflow their boxes.
>>>
>>>> What should I be using instead?
>>>
>>> IE?  It looks as good as could be expected there, though even then it
>>> overflows the box a little bit.
>>
>> Funny - it looks perfect for me on my FreeBSD 7 box with Mozilla.
>>
>> Maybe you should snap a screen shot and post a link..
>
> This prompted me to check out other browsers.  I was using Epiphany, and
> prior to the website update, the text rendered fine.    I just assumed
> it would affect the other browsers as well since it was the only change.
> But you're right.  Firefox, Mozilla, and Opera seem to do it right.
>
> This is what I see in Epiphany:
>
> http://www.marcuscom.com/downloads/gnome_site_font.png

Yes, this is the general problem with trying to guess the target
environment.  That's one of the things I liked about the old layout:
it rendered correctly everywhere.  But that's no longer "modern", I
suppose.

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On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 11:33 +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
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404

Joe

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> 404

Damn, I do this all the time!

The photos were there, just not the link page.  But that's there now
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Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> On Wednesday,  5 October 2005 at 20:54:26 -0500, Eric Anderson wrote:
> 
>>Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday,  5 October 2005 at 21:19:48 -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q27.  I'm
>>>>using  and 
 tags to display pre-formatted text.  However, it
>>>>comes out looking quite awful in the new layout.
>>>
>>>Well, it would help to understand what you're seeing.  I see
>>>fixed-width text that's about 50% too large.  Selecting normal or
>>>large text size makes no difference.  But, unlike the home page, at
>>>least it renders "correctly", without overlapping fields and texts
>>>that overflow their boxes.
>>>
>>>
>>>>What should I be using instead?
>>>
>>>IE?  It looks as good as could be expected there, though even then it
>>>overflows the box a little bit.
>>
>>Funny - it looks perfect for me on my FreeBSD 7 box with Mozilla.
> 
> 
> You're probably running at a lower resolution.

Maybe - I'm running at 1920x1200 on my 17" LCD.  What is yours at?


>>Maybe you should snap a screen shot and post a link..
> 
> 
> I did a while back, when this was being discussed.  Anyway, take a
> look at http://www.lemis.com/grog/Thumbnails-20051006.html, which
> shows the two pages at 10% size.  Click on the images for 25% size,
> and click on *those* images for full size.

Oh my goodness - those are horrid.  It looks like your fonts (in 
firefox) set larger -  does it look better after hitting CTRL-- ?

Eric



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On Wednesday,  5 October 2005 at 21:21:34 -0500, Eric Anderson wrote:
> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> On Wednesday,  5 October 2005 at 20:54:26 -0500, Eric Anderson wrote:
>>> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday,  5 October 2005 at 21:19:48 -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q27.  I'm
>>>>> using  and 
 tags to display pre-formatted text.  However, it
>>>>> comes out looking quite awful in the new layout.
>>>>
>>>> Well, it would help to understand what you're seeing.  I see
>>>> fixed-width text that's about 50% too large.  Selecting normal or
>>>> large text size makes no difference.  But, unlike the home page, at
>>>> least it renders "correctly", without overlapping fields and texts
>>>> that overflow their boxes.
>>>>
>>>>> What should I be using instead?
>>>>
>>>> IE?  It looks as good as could be expected there, though even then it
>>>> overflows the box a little bit.
>>>
>>> Funny - it looks perfect for me on my FreeBSD 7 box with Mozilla.
>>
>> You're probably running at a lower resolution.
>
> Maybe - I'm running at 1920x1200 on my 17" LCD.

I'm surprised it renders well at that resolution.  But maybe you've
made your fonts very small.

> What is yours at?

2048x1536.

>>> Maybe you should snap a screen shot and post a link..
>>
>> I did a while back, when this was being discussed.  Anyway, take a
>> look at http://www.lemis.com/grog/Thumbnails-20051006.html, which
>> shows the two pages at 10% size.  Click on the images for 25% size,
>> and click on *those* images for full size.
>
> Oh my goodness - those are horrid.  It looks like your fonts (in
> firefox) set larger -  does it look better after hitting CTRL-- ?

No, because that's the minimum font size, 18 pixels.  On this display
(135 dpi), that's just under 10 pt.  I tried with 16 pixel (9 pt), and
the layout got better (though the security advisories still overflow),
but it's hard to read.

I appreciate that HTML is a terrible tool for getting layouts right,
but I think that in this case it would help to leave a little more
space.  It'll be a while before 300 dpi displays come into general use
(hampered by HTML rendering issues, mainly).

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Hiroki Sato  wrote
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hr>  Sorry for the late notice, but the doc slush for 6.0-RELEASE
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hr>  their work and to avoid last-minute breakage for the 6.0-RELEASE.
hr>  As usual, this is not a real freeze and requires no formal commit
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Dear friends,
As I mentioned in earlier threads, we are trying to add the Persian(Farsi)
support to freebsd.org  website.
Kindly let us know what the starting point is?
Sincerely,
Kambiz

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Kambiz,

> As I mentioned in earlier threads, we are trying to add the
> Persian(Farsi) support to freebsd.org 
> website.  Kindly let us know what the starting point is?

You may want to start reading here:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/translations.ht=
ml

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Hi friends,
Thanks for advice.Yet I have visited recommended doc and
1-We are not sure about web site translating due to the fact that this page
is mostly concerning the document translation not web pages of
freebsd.org
.
2-We need to know exactly the using encoding to support Persian fonts(like
arabic besides several chars)
 Look forward to hearing any comment


 On 10/6/05, Joseph Koshy  wrote:
>
> Kambiz,
>
> > As I mentioned in earlier threads, we are trying to add the
> > Persian(Farsi) support to freebsd.org  <
> http://freebsd.org>
> > website. Kindly let us know what the starting point is?
>
> You may want to start reading here:
>
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/translations.=
html
>
> --
> FreeBSD Volunteer, http://people.freebsd.org/~jkoshy
>

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>  On 10/3/05, Kambiz Agahian  wrote:
>>Thank you chuck for replying.
>>Due to the very fast growth of using Unix-based operating systems in
>>middle-east.It seems imperative to me that the FreeBSD official website
>>has got to support Persian(Farsi) language before any other docs due to the
>>fact that this may attract first time users and would affect significantly.
>>In middle-east Persian(Farsi) language is widely spoken and it is the
>>official language of 3 fast-growing countries ,besides many people are able
>>to understand it rudimenterily in this region.
>>As such,we sringly believe that supporting Pesian(Farsi) language is a
>>must for our BSD community and that's why we are here.
>>I'e visited recommended pages and
>>-No group is working on this language .
>>-No server is mirroring any BSD community official stuff in above
>>countries.
>> Hence, I think that we need your guidelines to start the job as soon as
>>possible, we need an starting point (it is much better that we start from
>>website).
>>Hope to have a FreeBSD in Persian!
>>Thank you,

The tools used to build the documentation such as the handbook are also used to 
build much of the website on www.freebsd.org itself.  You should install the 
docproject tools and follow the FDP at least far enough to check out the doc 
and www trees via CVS or CVSup, and build an article or two yourself from the 
existing content so that you understand how things work and the basics of 
SGML/XML markup.

While you can in theory start translating any content you want to work on, you 
really ought to start with the Handbook, specificly the first section on how to 
install FreeBSD itself.  When you have useful content translated and available, 
you can either submit a PR or post it, or a link to it, here on the 
 mailing list...

-- 
-Chuck


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Hi chuck ,
Thank you for advice.
We are going to start the first section of handbook which seems esential fo=
r
newbies. Please let me know what fonts are preferred for docs because
Persian(Farsi) language normally is typed using UTF-8 and I could not find
instructions regarding this font.
Sincerely,
Kambiz


 On 10/6/05, Chuck Swiger  wrote:
>
> > On 10/3/05, Kambiz Agahian  wrote:
> >>Thank you chuck for replying.
> >>Due to the very fast growth of using Unix-based operating systems in
> >>middle-east.It seems imperative to me that the FreeBSD official website
> >>has got to support Persian(Farsi) language before any other docs due to
> the
> >>fact that this may attract first time users and would affect
> significantly.
> >>In middle-east Persian(Farsi) language is widely spoken and it is the
> >>official language of 3 fast-growing countries ,besides many people are
> able
> >>to understand it rudimenterily in this region.
> >>As such,we sringly believe that supporting Pesian(Farsi) language is a
> >>must for our BSD community and that's why we are here.
> >>I'e visited recommended pages and
> >>-No group is working on this language .
> >>-No server is mirroring any BSD community official stuff in above
> >>countries.
> >> Hence, I think that we need your guidelines to start the job as soon a=
s
> >>possible, we need an starting point (it is much better that we start
> from
> >>website).
> >>Hope to have a FreeBSD in Persian!
> >>Thank you,
>
> The tools used to build the documentation such as the handbook are also
> used to
> build much of the website on www.freebsd.org itse=
lf. You should install the
> docproject tools and follow the FDP at least far enough to check out the
> doc
> and www trees via CVS or CVSup, and build an article or two yourself from
> the
> existing content so that you understand how things work and the basics of
> SGML/XML markup.
>
> While you can in theory start translating any content you want to work on=
,
> you
> really ought to start with the Handbook, specificly the first section on
> how to
> install FreeBSD itself. When you have useful content translated and
> available,
> you can either submit a PR or post it, or a link to it, here on the
>  mailing list...
>
> --
> -Chuck
>
>

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Howdy :)

The sysadmin faq:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html

I feel a few entries could use some more information:

----

10.13, how to disable ctrl+alt+del
This entry mentions two options that require kernel recompilation.
However, another solution is available through keymap(5) which includes
disabling the 'boot' command sent via the default keymap.

You can edit the keymap or make your own from an existing one. The
default keymaps are here:
/usr/share/syscons/keymaps

This change doesn't require a kernel recompilation and thus not a
reboot. You can change your keymap at runtime with kbdcontrol -l.

----

10.14, reformatting dos text files to 'unix' format
Complex solutions involving perl and tr are offered. col(1) is a simple
utility built to do this (among other things)

----

10.15, killing processes by name
pkill(1) should also be mentioned along with the existing killall(1)
note.

----

Apologiges if this isn't the proper point of contact for the FAQ.

Regards,
-Jordan

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On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 03:45:15AM -0400, Jordan Sissel wrote:
> Apologiges if this isn't the proper point of contact for the FAQ.

It is, but there is an "underground movement" of sorts to try to
take the technical information out of the FAQ and put it into the
Handbook.  (This would leave the FAQ a 'what is FreebSD' resource).
The FAQ is at best duplicating the Handbook information but more often
than not is far behind it.

Please see if you might think the Handbook might be a better place for
this updated information.

mcl

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Hi everybody!!!!
Mi name is Dany, I used FreeBSD for a short time. I see the handbook in 
english of FreeBSD and see that de Chapter 12 is not translate to a spanish. 
I will send the topic Application Configuration in spanish. I have been 
translated many other. I need that send too mee opinions.
Thank
Dany

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   #[1]FreeBSD Handbook [2]Configuration and Tuning [3]Core Configuration
   [4]Starting Services

                        Manual de FreeBSD
   [5]Anterior Capítulo 11 Configuración y adaptación de sistema
   [6]Siguiente
   ______________________________________________________________________

11.4 Configuración de Aplicaciones

   Comúnmente, las aplicaciones instaladas, poseen sus propios ficheros
   de configuración, con su sintáxis propia, etc. Es importante que estos
   ficheros se mantengan separados del sistema base, aunque es fácil
   localizarlos y editarlos, cambiarlos, desarrollarlos con las
   herramientas de desarrollo de paquetes.

   En la mayoría de los casos estos ficheros se encuentran instalados en
   /usr/local/etc. En caso que una aplicación tenga un número grande de
   ficheros de configuración, se creará un subdirectorio debajo del
   principal.

   Normalmente, cuando un port o paquete es instalado, los archivos de
   configuración también son instalados. Estos son identificados
   usualmente con la palabra default después del (.) Si no existen
   ficheros de configuración para una aplicación, se puede crear copiando
   el fichero que tiene la palabra default después del (.) y
   renombrándolo.

   Por ejemplo, consideremos el contenido del directorio
   /usr/local/etc/apache:
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   2184 May 20  1998 access.conf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   2184 May 20  1998 access.conf.default
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   9555 May 20  1998 httpd.conf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   9555 May 20  1998 httpd.conf.default
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  12205 May 20  1998 magic
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  12205 May 20  1998 magic.default
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   2700 May 20  1998 mime.types
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   2700 May 20  1998 mime.types.default
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   7980 May 20  1998 srm.conf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   7933 May 20  1998 srm.conf.default

   El fichero muestra solamente los cambios realizados en srm.conf. Una
   actualización posterior del port Apache no sobreescribirá este
   fichero.
   ______________________________________________________________________

   [7]Anterior        [8]Inicio        [9]Siguiente
   Core Configuration [10]Subir Iniciando servicios

              Éste y otros documentos pueden obtenerse en[11]
                  ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/.

    Para preguntas acerca de FreeBSD, leer la [12]documentación antes de
            contactar con la lista <[13]questions@FreeBSD.org>.
           Para preguntas acerca de esta documentación, e-mail a
                           <[14]doc@FreeBSD.org>.

References

   1. file://localhost/C:/Dany/free%20bsd-instalaciones-soft/handbook-en/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html
   2. file://localhost/C:/Dany/free%20bsd-instalaciones-soft/handbook-en/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config-tuning.html
   3. file://localhost/C:/Dany/free%20bsd-instalaciones-soft/handbook-en/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-core-configuration.html
   4. file://localhost/C:/Dany/free%20bsd-instalaciones-soft/handbook-en/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-starting-services.html
   5. file://localhost/C:/Dany/free%20bsd-instalaciones-soft/handbook-en/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-core-configuration.html
   6. file://localhost/C:/Dany/free%20bsd-instalaciones-soft/handbook-en/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-starting-services.html
   7. file://localhost/C:/Dany/free%20bsd-instalaciones-soft/handbook-en/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-core-configuration.html
   8. file://localhost/C:/Dany/free%20bsd-instalaciones-soft/handbook-en/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html
   9. file://localhost/C:/Dany/free%20bsd-instalaciones-soft/handbook-en/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-starting-services.html
  10. file://localhost/C:/Dany/free%20bsd-instalaciones-soft/handbook-en/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config-tuning.html
  11. ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/
  12. http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html
  13. file://localhost/tmp/questions@FreeBSD.org
  14. file://localhost/tmp/doc@FreeBSD.org

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Hi Dany,

> Mi name is Dany, I used FreeBSD for a short time. I see the handbook in 
> english of FreeBSD and see that de Chapter 12 is not translate to a spanish. 
> I will send the topic Application Configuration in spanish. I have been 
> translated many other. I need that send too mee opinions.

Please subscribe to doc@es.freebsd.org (http://listas.es.freebsd.org)
and ask there because is possible that some other person is already
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>Number:         86986
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Close the  tag in the boot section of the Handbook
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Thu Oct 06 12:40:18 GMT 2005
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>Originator:     Daniel Gerzo
>Release:        FreeBSD 5.4 i386
>Organization:
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System: FreeBSD daemon.rulez.sk 5.4 #2: Fri May 27 23:16:31 CEST 2005 danger@daemon.rulez.sk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/daemon i386
>Description:
The  tag in the Boot section of the Handbook opened on line
189 is not closed. So close it :)
>How-To-Repeat:
check doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot/chapter.sgml
>Fix:
This should be proper diff:

--- boot.sgml.diff begins here ---
--- chapter.sgml~	Tue Oct  4 21:32:26 2005
+++ chapter.sgml	Tue Oct  4 21:51:37 2005
@@ -190,7 +190,7 @@
 
 	To install this boot manager so it will also boot FreeBSD, first
 	  start Linux and add the following to your existing
-	  /etc/lilo.conf configuration file:
+	  /etc/lilo.conf configuration file:
 
       other=/dev/hdXY
 table=/dev/hdX
--- boot.sgml.diff ends here ---

>Release-Note:
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On 6 October 2005 at 3:09, linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 03:45:15AM -0400, Jordan Sissel wrote:
> > Apologiges if this isn't the proper point of contact for the FAQ.
> 
> It is, but there is an "underground movement" of sorts to try to
> take the technical information out of the FAQ and put it into the
> Handbook.  (This would leave the FAQ a 'what is FreebSD' resource).
> The FAQ is at best duplicating the Handbook information but more often
> than not is far behind it.
> 
> Please see if you might think the Handbook might be a better place for
> this updated information.
> 
> mcl

The handbook would be an excellent place for such information! Great way
to consolidate most of the "how to use FreeBSD" information even better
into one location. Etc, etc. Preaching to the choir, eh?

Would the FAQ work like this, then?
Q: How do I do *foo*?
A: Check out *this* (with a happy link) entry in the handbook!

If so, then how should the new entries into the handbook be organized?
The handbook thusfar seems to be a very neatly organized set of articles
relating to a large number of topics. Most articles being atleast a page
long. With FAQ entries being usually 2-5 sentence answers, typically not
meriting a whole article for dedication.

I assume there are already ideas surrounding FAQ answer organization
into the handbook? At this point I'm not quite sure how it would work,
but the plan of having the FAQ not duplicate information already in the
handbook is a great one. It has the added benefit of directing people
from "How do I do this" to the handbook much faster than, say, googling
for something random hoping to find a howto. Again, great idea.

How can I help?

Regards,
-Jordan

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I will work on this.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=86986

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On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 09:50:47AM -0400, Jordan Sissel wrote:
> The handbook would be an excellent place for such information! Great way
> to consolidate most of the "how to use FreeBSD" information even better
> into one location. Etc, etc. Preaching to the choir, eh?

Yeah, really this has been discussed several times in the past and there
are several people who want things to head in this direction, but each
of them has other higher-priority items.  (read: I personally am way to
overcommitted to do this ...)

> Would the FAQ work like this, then?

> Q: How do I do *foo*?
> A: Check out *this* (with a happy link) entry in the handbook!

Well, my own view (which may be a minority one) is that the FAQ should
be more like:

Q: What are (the goals|the development process|) of the FreeBSD
   Project?
A: 

Q: How do I find out information about how *foo*?
A: Check out *this* (with a happy link) entry in the handbook!

And not have very many entries of the latter form.

This would reduce the size of the FAQ about 80% (and in the process make
it readable again).

> If so, then how should the new entries into the handbook be organized?
> The handbook thus far seems to be a very neatly organized set of articles
> relating to a large number of topics. Most articles being at least a page
> long. With FAQ entries being usually 2-5 sentence answers, typically not
> meriting a whole article for dedication.

Well no one has come to a consensus on that yet.  Larger chunks of text
should possibly be their own section.  One suggestion was that perhaps
a mini-FAQ at the end of each section.

But again, since I don't have a prototype for where the information
_ought_ to go (I do have an older prototype* of what the FAQ would look
like with the information _removed_), basically you shouldn't listen
to me until I do so :-)

It's just what I would like to see happen.

mcl

(* very, very, very, rough draft:
 http://people.freebsd.org/~linimon/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/ )

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linimon@lonesome.com  (Mark Linimon) writes:

> On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 09:50:47AM -0400, Jordan Sissel wrote:
> > The handbook would be an excellent place for such information! Great way
> > to consolidate most of the "how to use FreeBSD" information even better
> > into one location. Etc, etc. Preaching to the choir, eh?
> 
> Yeah, really this has been discussed several times in the past and there
> are several people who want things to head in this direction, but each
> of them has other higher-priority items.  (read: I personally am way to
> overcommitted to do this ...)

I am occasionally tempted to write up a "top ten most frequently asked
questions on freebsd-questions" list.  

> > Would the FAQ work like this, then?
> 
> > Q: How do I do *foo*?
> > A: Check out *this* (with a happy link) entry in the handbook!
> 
> Well, my own view (which may be a minority one) is that the FAQ should
> be more like:
> 
> Q: What are (the goals|the development process|) of the FreeBSD
>    Project?
> A: 
> 
> Q: How do I find out information about how *foo*?
> A: Check out *this* (with a happy link) entry in the handbook!
> 
> And not have very many entries of the latter form.

I think the FAQ should literally be a collection of Frequently Asked
Questions and their answers.  One of the problems we have is that
there is no obvious place to put short answers to *in*frequently asked
questions.  Particularly "how do I" questions. 

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Murray Stokely wrote:

> Please visit http://www.FreeBSD.org and let us know what you think.

Rendering problems on FreeBSD 5.4 with linux-mozilla-1.7.8_1
with adobe-times-iso8859-15 minsize 24 on 1600x1200, dpi=112


Window shot: http://people.freebsd.org/~garys/top.jpg

* The "Text size" line slightly overlaps the "power to serve"
line.

* The "button bar" flops over "Based on BSD".

* There should be some way of preventing a line break in the
middle of "Athlon^TM", but I couldn't find an entity for it (I
doubt if   is right).

* The "search" field looks like it was intended to be in the button
bar, but is not, and the "Search" field label is half white-on-white.

* I think "Get FreeBSD Now" sounds cheesy.  Drop the "Now".

* The two uses of "compatible" should have preceding hyphens,
or just omit the words which are not really needed.

* That intro para is tough to read.  Move the parenthetical
phrases into a second sentence, or just omit.

* I wonder if "It is derived from" has a problematical tense, since it
* sounds like it's still being derived.  But "It was derived from"
* sounds like it's a finished work.  Better: "It is a derivative of".


Window shot: http://people.freebsd.org/~garys/bot.jpg

* Text goes outside grey box, not that it matters much.

* The "More" links are not so much "more" as "all".  I'd just
make the four column headers/labels be those links or at least
put them just under the headers as "news", "events", etc, links,
where they are easier to notice and find.

* The "Submit Bug" link is indented in a way that makes it look
like a continuation of the "More" link just above it (one often
sees two links this way that have the same target).  It seems
out of place anyway and is a duplicate of one of the shortcuts
above, so I'd just delete it from the Security column.

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On Thursday 06 October 2005 02:27 pm, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
> Murray Stokely wrote:
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>
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> Window shot: http://people.freebsd.org/~garys/top.jpg

Hmm, in Konqueror I have to jack my font size all the way up to get this 
effect.  The top two font sizes things don't fit anymore, but they look fine 
in all the other font sizes.  It seems to be a common theme that the website 
works fine unless you crank the font size up.

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On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 01:49:18PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> I am occasionally tempted to write up a "top ten most frequently asked
> questions on freebsd-questions" list.  

Please do so!

> I think the FAQ should literally be a collection of Frequently Asked
> Questions and their answers.  One of the problems we have is that
> there is no obvious place to put short answers to *in*frequently asked
> questions.  Particularly "how do I" questions. 

The problem is that the FAQ is trying to do to too many things.  I'm
open to suggestions.

Perhaps the technical questions really belong in a knowledge base or a
wiki or some other resource.  Casting them into an SGML file is too high
a barrier of entry for a lot of people, and with that high barrier, things
do not tend to get updated, either.

mcl

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On Thursday,  6 October 2005 at  8:55:55 -0700, Brooks Davis wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 11:14:08AM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> On Thursday,  6 October 2005 at  3:01:29 +0300, Leonidas Tsampros wrote:
>>> I would like to express my sincere congratulations, to everyone
>>> involved in the process of creating the new web site!
>>
>> [not copying Leonidas]
>>
>> I'd have been happier if it would render correctly.  At least the old
>> one did that.
>
> You might mention the browser you are using.  It's going to be
> impossible for anyone to fix the rendering without that basic debugging
> information.

It shouldn't be relevant.  As I said elsewhere on this list, it's an
implicit font size issue.  I also posted some images
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It's nice (it's validating!), but what the hell is up with "Text Size:  
Normal / Large"?

Also, I had to guess the address to the ports section.

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linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) writes:

> On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 01:49:18PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
>> I am occasionally tempted to write up a "top ten most frequently asked
>> questions on freebsd-questions" list.  
>
> Please do so!

I had exactly the opposite thought.  But if done, it could be a
section of the FAQ's introduction chapter, just referencing ten
entries in the other chapters, improving those entries as desire
permits.

> The problem is that the FAQ is trying to do to too many things.  I'm
> open to suggestions.

I see two problems: 1) Some people will always want it to do all those
things, and it's hard to stop them.  2) Most people don't want to
maintain the stuff and it's hard to start them.

There's no way to change this and it's best to just leave the
unessential FAQ to those who can't be discouraged from working on it
but to make a practice of marking rotten entries "BROKEN" and removing
rotten entries which seem unlikely to ever be of any use to anyone.

> Perhaps the technical questions really belong in a knowledge base or a
> wiki or some other resource.  Casting them into an SGML file is too high
> a barrier of entry for a lot of people, and with that high barrier, things
> do not tend to get updated, either.

Amen.  The FAQ would be better as part of a wiki where more people
would hack on it.  But that won't happen without someone willing to
devote a lot of time to maintaining the server and some moderators.
And if there was such a wiki, it would probably grow like Topsy, with
work on Docbook docs dropping real far real fast.  Maybe that's enough
reason to not have a wiki.  But I've long wished that the Docbook docs
be ditched after using their content to seed a wiki.  A small subset
of HTML is sufficient markup for anybody but book publishers, IMO.

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On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 07:22:55PM -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
> > The problem is that the FAQ is trying to do to too many things.  I'm
> > open to suggestions.
> 
> [but] some people will always want it to do all those things, and it's
> hard to stop them.

I don't necessarily agree here.  I think a lot of commits get made to
the thing because a) someone is tired of mentioning the same thing on
the mailing lists over and over again and b) there's no other place in
the project to put them.  If we figure out better places to put the
information then I would like to believe the problems will sort themselves
out in time.

> but to make a practice of marking rotten entries "BROKEN" and removing
> rotten entries which seem unlikely to ever be of any use to anyone.

No, not marked BROKEN, removed immediately.  Bad information is far
worse than no information.  It is just that no one has set aside a long
weekend (or something similiar) to chainsaw the thing.

> Amen.  The FAQ would be better as part of a wiki where more people
> would hack on it.  But that won't happen without someone willing to
> devote a lot of time to maintaining the server and some moderators.
> And if there was such a wiki, it would probably grow like Topsy, with
> work on Docbook docs dropping real far real fast. 

I don't think the latter is the case, either.  There are a lot of things
where the The Right Thing for static content (that doesn't change from
one minor release to another, say) is something like Docbook.

But for things like these 'knowledge-base' kinds of things that can
change all the time, something more dynamic is probably better.

> But I've long wished that the Docbook docs be ditched after using
> their content to seed a wiki.  A small subset of HTML is sufficient
> markup for anybody but book publishers, IMO.

I hope to God that we never do this.  I may be a minority of one, but
I find wiki markup language to be the worst abomination foisted off on
computer users since Windows NT 1.0.  I can _not_ work on editing wiki
data for more than about 10 minutes before I simply cannot stand it any
more and walk away.  It works almost totally and exactly the opposite
way that I would expect it to work at every turn (in particular, the
meta-escape sequences).

Having said that, I never really had a problem with Docbook and don't
understand why people find it so difficult.  In most of our documentation
we use a fairly small subset of the available tags and I find that generally
I can just use something that already exists as a template and I'm good to
go.  But I realize that a lot of people do have problems with it.  That,
and the fact that one needs to have a commit bit to make changes, makes it
less than an ideal medium for the more dynamic content.  But both of those
reasons make it much _closer_ to ideal for the more static content.  IMHO.

mcl

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install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/shells.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/sysutils.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/tcl80.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/tcl81.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/tcl82.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/tcl83.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/tcl84.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/textproc.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/tk80.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/tk82.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/tk83.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/tk84.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/tkstep80.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/ukrainian.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/vietnamese.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/windowmaker.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/www.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/x11-clocks.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/x11-fm.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/x11-fonts.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/x11-servers.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/x11-themes.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/x11-toolkits.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/x11-wm.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/x11.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/xfce.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
install -C   -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/www/ja/ports/zope.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/ja/ports
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===> ../ja/doc/articles
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*** Error code 1

Stop in /w/www/build/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/articles/contributing.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /w/www/build/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/articles.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /w/www/build/doc/ja_JP.eucJP.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /w/www/build/www/ja/doc.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /w/www/build/www/ja.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /w/www/build/www/en.
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On 2005-10-06 22:27, Mark Linimon  wrote:
>On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 07:22:55PM -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
>> But I've long wished that the Docbook docs be ditched after
>> using their content to seed a wiki.  A small subset of HTML
>> is sufficient markup for anybody but book publishers, IMO.
>
> I hope to God that we never do this.  I may be a minority of
> one, but I find wiki markup language to be the worst
> abomination foisted off on computer users since Windows NT 1.0.
> I can _not_ work on editing wiki data for more than about 10
> minutes before I simply cannot stand it any more and walk away.

Ditto.

I have grown quite allergic to wikis too for any amount of
serious work lately.  The general idea of a wiki is something I
like a lot.  The little details of how and where spaces or other
special wiki-characters have to be put to get a consistent *and*
nice look and feel is always what gets me after about 1-2
minutes.  The fact that hare writing in undersized web form
windows that work in their own special, quite unfathomable ways,
quite unlike vim, emacs or any other text editor I've learned to
like so far, is another factor for my wiki-allergy :)


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On 2005-10-06 14:50, John Baldwin  wrote:
>On Thursday 06 October 2005 02:27 pm, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
>> Murray Stokely wrote:
>> > Please visit http://www.FreeBSD.org and let us know what you think.
>>
>> Rendering problems on FreeBSD 5.4 with linux-mozilla-1.7.8_1
>> with adobe-times-iso8859-15 minsize 24 on 1600x1200, dpi=112
>>
>> Window shot: http://people.freebsd.org/~garys/top.jpg
>
> Hmm, in Konqueror I have to jack my font size all the way up to get
> this effect.  The top two font sizes things don't fit anymore, but
> they look fine in all the other font sizes.  It seems to be a common
> theme that the website works fine unless you crank the font size up.

It's a common theme to pretty much 100% of the sites I've seen that use
CSS for layout.  It's the most important reason I've sort of given up
trying to find a Wordpress theme for my blog that is beautiful _and_
works exactly the way I want it to work :-/


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garys@opusnet.com  (Gary W. Swearingen) writes:

> linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) writes:
> 
> > On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 01:49:18PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> >> I am occasionally tempted to write up a "top ten most frequently asked
> >> questions on freebsd-questions" list.  
> >
> > Please do so!
> 
> I had exactly the opposite thought.  But if done, it could be a
> section of the FAQ's introduction chapter, just referencing ten
> entries in the other chapters, improving those entries as desire
> permits.

I think you're misunderstanding the intent.  I don't see any point in
making it part of the FAQ document itself.  I thought of it as a tool
to get people to look at the FAQ in the first place.

I would just keep a list of ten FAQ entries, and URLs for them.  I
could either make it a periodic posting or automatically put one of
the ten in my signature when I post to the -questions list.

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linimon@lonesome.com  (Mark Linimon) writes:

> On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 07:22:55PM -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
> > > The problem is that the FAQ is trying to do to too many things.  I'm
> > > open to suggestions.
> > 
> > [but] some people will always want it to do all those things, and it's
> > hard to stop them.
> 
> I don't necessarily agree here.  I think a lot of commits get made to
> the thing because a) someone is tired of mentioning the same thing on
> the mailing lists over and over again and b) there's no other place in
> the project to put them.  If we figure out better places to put the
> information then I would like to believe the problems will sort themselves
> out in time.

See, to me that's exactly what a "FAQ" is for: collecting the answers
to questions that get asked frequently.  And making it convenient
enough to find answers in that people might try to do so before asking
the question.

> > but to make a practice of marking rotten entries "BROKEN" and removing
> > rotten entries which seem unlikely to ever be of any use to anyone.
> 
> No, not marked BROKEN, removed immediately.  Bad information is far
> worse than no information.  It is just that no one has set aside a long
> weekend (or something similiar) to chainsaw the thing.

In my experience, the bigger problem is entries that aren't wrong, but
are *slightly* outdated.  In a number of cases, the information can be
useful even so, but an applicability note helps until the entry is
updated.  [For example, a change in syntax between 4.x and 5.x.]

> > Amen.  The FAQ would be better as part of a wiki where more people
> > would hack on it.  But that won't happen without someone willing to
> > devote a lot of time to maintaining the server and some moderators.
> > And if there was such a wiki, it would probably grow like Topsy, with
> > work on Docbook docs dropping real far real fast. 
> 
> I don't think the latter is the case, either.  There are a lot of things
> where the The Right Thing for static content (that doesn't change from
> one minor release to another, say) is something like Docbook.
> 
> But for things like these 'knowledge-base' kinds of things that can
> change all the time, something more dynamic is probably better.

They *can* change all the time, but once created, most content tends
to stay useful for a long time.  I'm not sure whether that affects the
point at all, though.

> > But I've long wished that the Docbook docs be ditched after using
> > their content to seed a wiki.  A small subset of HTML is sufficient
> > markup for anybody but book publishers, IMO.

Visual markup, yes.  But markup serves other purposes, too, which you
don't get from a wiki.  Multiple output formats, for one thing.  I use
flat-text versions of the major documents more often than HTML, for
one thing.  And pdf quite often as well.  And I find the automatic
indexing and so forth to be fairly useful also.

Be well.

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>Number:         87073
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       New article: Maintaing and contributing to the FreeBSD Ports Collection
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Oct 07 15:40:09 GMT 2005
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>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Sam Lawrance
>Release:        FreeBSD 6.0-BETA5 i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD dirk.no.domain 6.0-BETA5 FreeBSD 6.0-BETA5 #0: Sun Oct 2 17:26:52 UTC 2005 root@dirk.no.domain:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386


>Description:
	I have a draft titled as per synopsis, and am looking for a doco
person to help me get the SGML up to scratch so I can finally finish the
bloody thing.

	Viewable here (plus some extra manually added highlighting):
		http://people.freebsd.org/~lawrance/contributing-ports/article.html

	And a shar of the source is here:
		http://people.freebsd.org/~lawrance/contributing-ports/contributing-ports.sh

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The following reply was made to PR docs/87073; it has been noted by GNATS.

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To: Sam Lawrance 
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Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 09:12:17 -0700

 I don't like how many articles have their abstract closely following
 the trademark notices with just a blank line between.  One possible fix
 is to insert this just after the  start tag:
 
    Abstract
 
 I haven't seen what this looks like yet.

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Hi all,
We are going to translate some parts of FAQ adn handbook to Farsi
language.Yet the best implementation of right-to-left languages with chars
like Arabic,Hebrew and Farsi are seen with UTF-8.
Please add your comment for these languages translation and let us know
whether or not you have any pre-defined rule concerning this case.
Tq

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I'll take it.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=87073

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On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:08:01 -0500
linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 09:50:47AM -0400, Jordan Sissel wrote:
> > The handbook would be an excellent place for such information! Great way
> > to consolidate most of the "how to use FreeBSD" information even better
> > into one location. Etc, etc. Preaching to the choir, eh?
> 
> Yeah, really this has been discussed several times in the past and there
> are several people who want things to head in this direction, but each
> of them has other higher-priority items.  (read: I personally am way to
> overcommitted to do this ...)
> 

Does this mean my patch for the FAQ -> Handbook work is
back in?  :)

-- 
Tom Rhodes

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Leonidas Tsampros wrote:
> I would like to express my sincere congratulations, to everyone
> involved in the process of creating the new web site! 
> 
> Congratulations!


yeah, thanks for the new design which probably looks more modern.
i liked the old one more, though. :)

here's what i don't like most about the new site:

- a way too small font sizes 8-o

- if you try to switch to large text size you'll realize the page wasn't 
prepared for it -- the layout is partially broken and it doesn't look 
good anymore, imho. :(

- the layout doesn't make use of my widescreen! the old one was much 
better as it stretched dynamically. :-((

- why there are 7 latest news and only 2 news in upcoming events column?

that's about it for now. i'll try to investigate more later on.
and i believe all the issues mentioned can be solved. :o)

cheers,

martin

ps: does it mean the old website is not going to be updated anymore?


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On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 08:24:13PM +0200, martinko wrote:
> Leonidas Tsampros wrote:
> >I would like to express my sincere congratulations, to everyone
> >involved in the process of creating the new web site! 
> >
> >Congratulations!

Yes congrats looks cute.

> here's what i don't like most about the new site:
> - a way too small font sizes 8-o

Depends perhaps on your general browser / windowmanager settings.
And .. there is a button to use larger fonts.
Which as well can be done with the browser itself.
i.e. enlarge and shrink font in KDE's Konqueror.

> - if you try to switch to large text size you'll realize the page wasn't 
> prepared for it -- the layout is partially broken and it doesn't look 
> good anymore, imho. :(

1.
I discovered, that the "Text Size Normal/Large" choices in the
page header are not displayed at the start pages.

And in Konqueror selecting Large Font with it breaks the display
of the grey theme selection line which contains:
"Home, About, Get FreeBSD,.."

All items starting with About will be displayed not horizontally
but instead of this vertically, overwriting the page content below.
But only Konqueror has this problem.

KDE 3.4.0 on FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE with Konqueror version: 3.4.0

2.
I'm missing a direct link to the ports collection.
It's a bit hidden now.

	Andreas ///

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