From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:47:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C524A16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:47:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from godzilla.vipstructures.com (godzilla.vipstructures.com [66.195.71.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782A943D1D for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:47:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etoll@vipstructures.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.vipstructures.com [127.0.0.1]) by godzilla.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2452846A for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from godzilla.vipstructures.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 97217-06 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mothra.vipstructures.com (mothra.vipstructures.com [192.168.1.3]) by godzilla.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856932844B for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:47:56 -0400 (EDT) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 14:47:56 -0400 Message-ID: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4D10@VIP10-WIN2K> From: "Toll, Eric" To: X-Antivirus: checked by Norton Anti Virus X-MTA-Mailer: Postfix 2 by Wietse Venema - http://www.postfix.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on godzilla.vipstructures.com Subject: Another BIOS RAID or host based RAID question X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:47:57 -0000 I see the list littered with many unanswered RAID questions, is anyone = using hardware based RAID with FreeBSD 5.X? If so what exactly do you have = for equipment? =20 Want to get 2 identical 74Gb drives, could be SATA or SCSI, would like = to setup controller or bios to to the RAID - not software raid. e.g. create the = mirror set in BIOS then install BSD. =20 I have purchased *nothing* yet. I'd like an easy to set up (via BIOS) = RAID 1 set, then install FreeBSD 5.3 onto it, FreeBSD would see the Raided set = of disks as ONE disk. =20 The old HP SCSI Raid Controllers would make a very loud alarm noise when = the RAID array was in trouble, I really want this feature! Anyone recommend a nice compatible card or board that will do what I = want? =20 =20 I am grateful for your answers. =20 Eric =20 "That is not a puzzle, Grasshopper. It is only something you do not yet understand." -Master Po =20 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 20:05:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D6016A4D0 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:05:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from biltens.etika.net (mail.etikaweb.net [65.75.141.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F7843D41 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:05:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from halil@enderunix.org) Received: from [85.97.0.133] (helo=[192.168.7.100]) by biltens.etika.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DShA1-0006kl-P4 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 23:05:37 +0300 From: Halil Demirezen Organization: Enderunix To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 23:04:39 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_HIrdC437ypLsRJ/" Message-Id: <200505022304.39280.halil@enderunix.org> X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - biltens.etika.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - enderunix.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Why is hardware so messy to cope with? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:05:34 -0000 --Boundary-00=_HIrdC437ypLsRJ/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I am so newbie to the kernels. I am trying to code kernel that i am current= ly developing. It is nothing more than testing and seeing process... I have got a basic kernel that does simple interrupts in protected mode. I am sending the source code attached. What i want to ask is: =2D why after adding ../mm/memory.o to the kernel/Makefile the processor tr= aps unresolved interrupt while it should trap keyboard_interrupt. =2D Is there any problem in compilation flags? All the comments on the source code will be welcomed since it will be a gre= at experience for me to step ahead in being a future developer of FreeBSD kernel.. PS: for compiling insert a floppy and cd boot/ && make cd kernel/ && make & make install reboot the machine booting from floppy disk.. sincerely. =2D-=20 ************************** * Halil Demirezen * * Geli=C5=9Ftirici Tak=C4=B1m =C3=9Cyesi*=20 * halil@enderunix.org * ************************** --Boundary-00=_HIrdC437ypLsRJ/-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 13:45:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75B116A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:45:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gizmo01bw.bigpond.com (gizmo01bw.bigpond.com [144.140.70.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6731243D93 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:45:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.org@carmoda.com) Received: (qmail 432 invoked from network); 3 May 2005 13:45:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bwmam08.bigpond.com) (144.135.24.91) by gizmo01bw.bigpond.com with SMTP; 3 May 2005 13:45:50 -0000 Received: from cpe-141-168-98-133.qld.bigpond.net.au ([141.168.98.133]) by bwmam08.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2a 129/46352869) with SMTP id 46352869; Tue, 03 May 2005 23:45:50 +1000 Message-ID: <42778132.8090407@carmoda.com> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 23:48:34 +1000 From: "freebsd.org@carmoda.com" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: anyone know about supermicro MB's & 3ware cards? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:45:56 -0000 Hi, I have a 1RU rackmount server chassis and i am having trouble fitting a 3Ware RAID IDE card [RC-7506-4LP] [with riser card] to a Supermicro Mainboard. It does not seem to have the necessary clearance from the PCI slots on the MB to connect the IDE cables to the 3Ware card once the cables are connected. hardware: Chenbro CSPC-115b 1RU rackmount server chassis 3Ware RAID IDE card [RC-7506-4LP] JM103 PCI-X riser card Supermicro Mainboard [P4SCI] i have pics of all. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 14:05:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0A516A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:05:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01EC743D6E for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:05:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fborghesi@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so2783495nzk for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 07:05:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Sl6tNcm5EEswdZmj8Hym0tKWAyffQx1KODvMsyCzuRlNJAem48KeXCUijLwy1K6JhQdc+hdqIWDhsiAWIAbXHqU6w7goxC1GW1nMi/WWjyHDT08ly8R9UEUM3X+crwQzBsV1YeV6RceNIPqb6tKvAGAOP07iai6YFjd9lhxbDu8= Received: by 10.36.33.6 with SMTP id g6mr702109nzg; Tue, 03 May 2005 07:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.105.10 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 07:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:05:27 -0300 From: Franco Bruno Borghesi To: "Toll, Eric" In-Reply-To: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4D10@VIP10-WIN2K> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4D10@VIP10-WIN2K> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Another BIOS RAID or host based RAID question X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Franco Bruno Borghesi List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 14:05:33 -0000 Yes, I am using 3 servers with hardware raid: a)3ware 7500 with 4 ATA disks (1 spare) WD 160 GB in RAID 5, works great. b)Mylex AcceleRAID 160 with 3 SCSI 8 GB Quantum disks, RAID 5, works great. c)3ware 9600s with 4 SATA 150 disks (1 spare) WD 160 GB in RAID 5. Many=20 problems, occasional reboots, couldn't get any help from the lists. The 3ware 7500 board comes in severall flavours, you could try a two channe= l=20 model, though the only utility you have is tw_cli, it's console based, no= =20 alarms. It's also an ATA controller :( Hope this helps. 2005/5/2, Toll, Eric : >=20 > I see the list littered with many unanswered RAID questions, is anyone=20 > using > hardware based RAID with FreeBSD 5.X? If so what exactly do you have for > equipment? >=20 > Want to get 2 identical 74Gb drives, could be SATA or SCSI, would like to= =20 > setup > controller or bios to to the RAID - not software raid. e.g. create the=20 > mirror > set in BIOS then install BSD. >=20 > I have purchased *nothing* yet. I'd like an easy to set up (via BIOS) RAI= D=20 > 1 > set, then install FreeBSD 5.3 onto it, FreeBSD would see the Raided set o= f=20 > disks > as ONE disk. >=20 > The old HP SCSI Raid Controllers would make a very loud alarm noise when= =20 > the > RAID array was in trouble, I really want this feature! >=20 > Anyone recommend a nice compatible card or board that will do what I want= ? >=20 > I am grateful for your answers. >=20 > Eric >=20 > "That is not a puzzle, Grasshopper. It is only something you do not yet > understand." -Master Po >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g > " > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 15:25:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E0B16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:25:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from godzilla.vipstructures.com (godzilla.vipstructures.com [66.195.71.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C63543D79 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:25:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etoll@vipstructures.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.vipstructures.com [127.0.0.1]) by godzilla.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46552841C for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 11:25:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from godzilla.vipstructures.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 12135-03 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 11:25:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mothra.vipstructures.com (mothra.vipstructures.com [192.168.1.3]) by godzilla.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB722841A for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 11:25:45 -0400 (EDT) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:25:45 -0400 Message-ID: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4D14@VIP10-WIN2K> From: "Toll, Eric" To: "Franco Bruno Borghesi" X-Antivirus: checked by Norton Anti Virus X-MTA-Mailer: Postfix 2 by Wietse Venema - http://www.postfix.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on godzilla.vipstructures.com cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Another BIOS RAID or host based RAID question X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 15:25:51 -0000 =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of=20 > Franco Bruno Borghesi > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:05 AM > To: Toll, Eric > Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Another BIOS RAID or host based RAID question >=20 > Yes, I am using 3 servers with hardware raid: >=20 > a)3ware 7500 with 4 ATA disks (1 spare) WD 160 GB in RAID 5,=20 > works great. > b)Mylex AcceleRAID 160 with 3 SCSI 8 GB Quantum disks, RAID=20 > 5, works great. > c)3ware 9600s with 4 SATA 150 disks (1 spare) WD 160 GB in=20 > RAID 5. Many problems, occasional reboots, couldn't get any=20 > help from the lists. >=20 > The 3ware 7500 board comes in severall flavours, you could=20 > try a two channel model, though the only utility you have is=20 > tw_cli, it's console based, no alarms. It's also an ATA controller :( >=20 > Hope this helps. Yes it does, I just did a quick search of 3ware storage adapters on = Insight and the 8xxx and 9xxx series are available. They are all 64 Bit PCI, which leads me to the mainboard. I wanted to = get an Asus or Abit MB with an (single) AMD processor (64 perhaps) with 1Gb of = RAM. What mainboard are your 3ware cards plugged into? I want to build a new BSD server, with ATA raid or SATA raid, AMD 64 = chip (not using 64bit BSD), MB and nice P/S and case. Can anyone recommend a good = shopping list? Regards, Eric From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 17:19:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484A216A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:19:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020AD43D58 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:19:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fborghesi@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3363290nzo for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 10:19:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Cm931epIgLsZKcu8A1vYZN7DkLogPjKY4ECLbAJSvQkmIeJrY55Z9Ah63i10jsd4ifZmi0maQaBqef0vK2Uvzhu2SpWTJBqF1XSxaxy2UaGPXmRzusBkTCY88GH82qhtr/6d8CtBrFzYMKqUaQXB1tW4GxGB5JFyHKCv6+iOS58= Received: by 10.36.82.18 with SMTP id f18mr732980nzb; Tue, 03 May 2005 10:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.105.10 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 10:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 14:19:11 -0300 From: Franco Bruno Borghesi To: "Toll, Eric" In-Reply-To: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4D14@VIP10-WIN2K> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4D14@VIP10-WIN2K> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Another BIOS RAID or host based RAID question X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Franco Bruno Borghesi List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:19:20 -0000 Both 3ware boards are on similar based hardware: Tyan S5120AGNF (tomcat=20 i915g), PIV 3 ghz-HT disabled, 2GB of RAM. Mylex board is installed on an= =20 old PIII 800mhz, 768MB of RAM. I've run bonnie on the 3 servers, theese are the results: *3Ware 7506 4LP (ATA-RAID 5): -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seek= s--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec = %CPU 100 26773 21.0 25696 7.0 24083 4.4 106501 98.1 872573 98.5 86894.2 93.9 *3Ware 9500s (SATA-RAID 5): Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec = %CPU 100 35912 27.1 37985 7.2 42063 6.6 115488 98.1 2237713 99.2 134675.6 98.5 *Mylex AcceleRAID 160 (SCSI-RAID 5): -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seek= s--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec = %CPU 100 9528 27.3 9839 7.8 11813 12.9 36905 98.9 169363 99.1 25536.9 98.3 None of theese servers are very busy, and the tests where performed under= =20 normal load.=20 3Ware 9500s performs very well, but be carefull, acpi enabled hangs the=20 server every day, and disabling it will hang it every 10 :( If you're interested about ATA/SATA RAID you should try to get some=20 information on promise boards too. Hope someone in the list can help. 2005/5/3, Toll, Eric : >=20 >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > > Franco Bruno Borghesi > > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:05 AM > > To: Toll, Eric > > Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Another BIOS RAID or host based RAID question > > > > Yes, I am using 3 servers with hardware raid: > > > > a)3ware 7500 with 4 ATA disks (1 spare) WD 160 GB in RAID 5, > > works great. > > b)Mylex AcceleRAID 160 with 3 SCSI 8 GB Quantum disks, RAID > > 5, works great. > > c)3ware 9600s with 4 SATA 150 disks (1 spare) WD 160 GB in > > RAID 5. Many problems, occasional reboots, couldn't get any > > help from the lists. > > > > The 3ware 7500 board comes in severall flavours, you could > > try a two channel model, though the only utility you have is > > tw_cli, it's console based, no alarms. It's also an ATA controller :( > > > > Hope this helps. >=20 > Yes it does, I just did a quick search of 3ware storage adapters on=20 > Insight and > the 8xxx and 9xxx series are available. > They are all 64 Bit PCI, which leads me to the mainboard. I wanted to get= =20 > an > Asus or Abit MB with an (single) AMD processor (64 perhaps) with 1Gb of= =20 > RAM. >=20 > What mainboard are your 3ware cards plugged into? >=20 > I want to build a new BSD server, with ATA raid or SATA raid, AMD 64 chip= =20 > (not > using 64bit BSD), MB and nice P/S and case. Can anyone recommend a good= =20 > shopping > list? >=20 > Regards, > Eric >=20 > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 18:17:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC7116A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:17:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hadar.amcc.com (hadar.amcc.com [192.195.69.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3A543D49 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:17:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vkashyap@amcc.com) Received: from mailhost01.amcc.com ([192.195.69.30]) by hadar.amcc.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id IFXETD00.0F5; Tue, 3 May 2005 11:17:37 -0700 Received: (from vkashyap-pc [10.66.13.13]) by mailhost01.amcc.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005050311180121730 ; Tue, 03 May 2005 11:18:01 -0700 From: "Vinod Kashyap" To: Franco Bruno Borghesi , "Toll Eric" Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:17:34 -0700 X-Sent-Folder-Path: Sent Items X-Mailer: Oracle Connector for Outlook 9.0.4 51114 (9.0.6627) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Another BIOS RAID or host based RAID question X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 18:17:50 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Franco Bruno > Borghesi > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 7:05 AM > To: Toll, Eric > Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Another BIOS RAID or host based RAID question > = > = > Yes, I am using 3 servers with hardware raid: > = > a)3ware 7500 with 4 ATA disks (1 spare) WD 160 GB in RAID 5, = > works great. > b)Mylex AcceleRAID 160 with 3 SCSI 8 GB Quantum disks, RAID = > 5, works great. > c)3ware 9600s with 4 SATA 150 disks (1 spare) WD 160 GB in = > RAID 5. Many = > problems, occasional reboots, couldn't get any help from the lists. > = Please contact 3ware support if you are experiencing problems. > The 3ware 7500 board comes in severall flavours, you could = > try a two channel = > model, though the only utility you have is tw_cli, it's = > console based, no = > alarms. It's also an ATA controller :( > = 3ware CLI and 3DM2 (web-based GUI) for 9xxx series controllers also work for 7xxx/8xxx series controllers. > Hope this helps. > = > 2005/5/2, Toll, Eric : > > = > > I see the list littered with many unanswered RAID = > questions, is anyone = > > using > > hardware based RAID with FreeBSD 5.X? If so what exactly do = > you have for > > equipment? > > = > > Want to get 2 identical 74Gb drives, could be SATA or SCSI, = > would like to = > > setup > > controller or bios to to the RAID - not software raid. e.g. = > create the = > > mirror > > set in BIOS then install BSD. > > = > > I have purchased *nothing* yet. I'd like an easy to set up = > (via BIOS) RAID = > > 1 > > set, then install FreeBSD 5.3 onto it, FreeBSD would see = > the Raided set of = > > disks > > as ONE disk. > > = > > The old HP SCSI Raid Controllers would make a very loud = > alarm noise when = > > the > > RAID array was in trouble, I really want this feature! > > = > > Anyone recommend a nice compatible card or board that will = > do what I want? > > = > > I am grateful for your answers. > > = > > Eric > > = > > "That is not a puzzle, Grasshopper. It is only something = > you do not yet > > understand." -Master Po > > = > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > > " > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 05:44:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1457816A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 05:44:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay103-f5.bay103.hotmail.com [65.54.174.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED0943D62 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 05:44:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duganben@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:44:40 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.174.210 by by103fd.bay103.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 04 May 2005 05:44:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.54.174.210] X-Originating-Email: [duganben@hotmail.com] X-Sender: duganben@hotmail.com From: "Ben Dugan" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 05:44:39 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2005 05:44:40.0272 (UTC) FILETIME=[5D58D500:01C5506C] Subject: WG311T with AR5213 chip X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 05:44:07 -0000 Is there an update for the ath drivers? Patches? It seems as if none of the new wireless cards are compliant under FreeBSD 5.3 release. I have a WG311T (v2 ??) with the AR5213 chipset and get the dreaded -> ath0: unable to attatch hardware; HAL status 13 device_attach: ath0 attach returned 6 when trying to: %usr/src/sys/modules/ath/make load any help? Thanks, Ben From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 20:02:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B05F16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:02:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vsmtp1.tin.it (vsmtp1.tin.it [212.216.176.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B7F43D31 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:02:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eivico@tin.it) Received: from guildurno (80.182.94.114) by vsmtp1.tin.it (7.0.027) id 427666FB0010A6F1 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:02:08 +0200 Message-ID: <000a01c550e4$27c2a380$03fea8c0@guildurno> From: "Roberto Corradi" To: References: <004901c54b68$73d9e930$03fea8c0@guildurno> <20050428083808.E10942@Neo-Vortex.net> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 22:02:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: Ethernet Interface - PING problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 20:02:57 -0000 > I presume the rest of your lan is on the 192.168.254.* range? Yes, it is. I set my ethernet address as 192.168.254.3 > Do you have any firewalls enabled on any of the box's? Yes, I've got a firewall enabled on the linux box which works as server to provide the internet connection to the other lan's boxes. But since I installed the LAN, I haven't got any kind of ping/ethernet troubles with other operative systems like Linux or Windows. > Can you ping the FreeBSD box from other box's? No, I can't.. :-(( > What does a packet sniffer show when you try to ping it or get ping'd from > other box's? Are packets actually being send and recieved? I've tried with tcpdump But I can't receive any packets. > Is the switch/hub dodgy? Try chaning ports to a port you know to work. I've tried to change port but nothing works, I still can't ping any machine. > Is there any encryption running over the network? (ie, ipsec and the like) No, there isn't Only the "status" (reading the ifconfig -a output) of my dc0 ethernet adapter seems to work. If I detach the ethernet cable off the adapter, status changes from "active" to "no carrier". Thankss again for helping me with this trouble! ^_^ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 22:19:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7681F16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:19:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Neo-Vortex.net (203-173-19-223.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.173.19.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551BF43D2D for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:19:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@Neo-Vortex.net) Received: from localhost.Neo-Vortex.net (Neo-Vortex@localhost.Neo-Vortex.net [127.0.0.1]) by Neo-Vortex.net (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j44MInwh068752; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:18:49 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from root@Neo-Vortex.net) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:18:49 +1000 (EST) From: Neo-Vortex To: Roberto Corradi In-Reply-To: <000a01c550e4$27c2a380$03fea8c0@guildurno> Message-ID: <20050505081727.M68473@Neo-Vortex.net> References: <004901c54b68$73d9e930$03fea8c0@guildurno> <20050428083808.E10942@Neo-Vortex.net> <000a01c550e4$27c2a380$03fea8c0@guildurno> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ethernet Interface - PING problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 22:19:51 -0000 On Wed, 4 May 2005, Roberto Corradi wrote: > > What does a packet sniffer show when you try to ping it or get ping'd from > > other box's? Are packets actually being send and recieved? > > I've tried with tcpdump > But I can't receive any packets. What about when you ping other box's? are the packets being sent out? (tcpdump -vvv -i dc0 to get some more detailed output) Can you ping yourself? (127.0.0.1 and 192.168.254.3) other than that... im pretty stumped... dodgy NIC? ~Neo-Vortex From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 05:20:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A2E16A572 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 05:20:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from godzilla.vipstructures.com (godzilla.vipstructures.com [66.195.71.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8981F43D92 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 05:20:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etoll@vipstructures.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.vipstructures.com [127.0.0.1]) by godzilla.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4414328424 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:18:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from godzilla.vipstructures.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 25323-06 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:18:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mothra.vipstructures.com (mothra.vipstructures.com [192.168.1.3]) by godzilla.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FEA2841C for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:18:36 -0400 (EDT) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:18:35 -0400 Message-ID: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A9456E8C9@VIP10-WIN2K> From: "Toll, Eric" To: X-Antivirus: checked by Norton Anti Virus X-MTA-Mailer: Postfix 2 by Wietse Venema - http://www.postfix.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on godzilla.vipstructures.com Subject: RE: Ethernet Interface - PING problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 05:20:48 -0000 Do not allow the card to autonegotiate. Lock the speed and duplex to 100 Full. (If connecting to a switch) Or 10 half if using an old hub. E.g. ifconfig_dc0=3D"inet 192.168.254.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 media = 100BaseTX mediaopt full-duplex" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 05:20:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E610E16A575 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 05:20:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from godzilla.vipstructures.com (godzilla.vipstructures.com [66.195.71.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896AE43D90 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 05:20:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etoll@vipstructures.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.vipstructures.com [127.0.0.1]) by godzilla.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A083A28431 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from godzilla.vipstructures.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 25377-01 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mothra.vipstructures.com (mothra.vipstructures.com [192.168.1.3]) by godzilla.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6707A28429 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:13:02 -0400 (EDT) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:13:02 -0400 Message-ID: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4D1B@VIP10-WIN2K> From: "Toll, Eric" To: X-Antivirus: checked by Norton Anti Virus X-MTA-Mailer: Postfix 2 by Wietse Venema - http://www.postfix.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on godzilla.vipstructures.com Subject: Proposed hardware for 5.3 Rig! X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 05:20:48 -0000 I'm excited! This is my proposed shopping list. The 2 WD Drives (RAID = Edition) will be setup with the 3ware in a RAID 1 config. (Mirror) Will FreeBSD = 5.3 make use of the Dual Opteron's ? (1)8006-2LP KIT 3ware Escalade 8006-2LP - storage controller (RAID) - SATA-150 - PCI 64 =20 (2)WD2500SD Western Digital Caviar RE WD2500SD - hard drive - 250 GB = - SATA-150 (1)GA-7A8DW Gigabyte GA-7A8DW - mainboard - extended ATX - AMD-8111 / AMD-8131 /AMD-8151 -> Board has AGP 4X/8X and a 66Mhz 64Bit PCI slot for 3Ware RAID card (1)TITAN 550 TITAN SERIES 550 - Antec Extended ATX Case with 550 Watt = power supply (2)OSA242AUBOX AMD Opteron 242 1.6 GHz processor - OEM AMD Boxed processors (1)KRX3200AK2/1G Kingston HyperX memory - 1024 MB ( 2 x 512 MB ) - = DIMM 184-pin - DDR Cost =3D around $2,000 USD. Comments welcome. TIA Eric From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 06:35:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B3216A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 06:35:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Neo-Vortex.net (203-173-19-223.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.173.19.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6F443D7F for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 06:35:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@Neo-Vortex.net) Received: from localhost.Neo-Vortex.net (Neo-Vortex@localhost.Neo-Vortex.net [127.0.0.1]) by Neo-Vortex.net (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j456ZRNf049388; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:35:28 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from root@Neo-Vortex.net) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:35:27 +1000 (EST) From: Neo-Vortex To: "Toll, Eric" In-Reply-To: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A9456E8C9@VIP10-WIN2K> Message-ID: <20050505163208.Y48797@Neo-Vortex.net> References: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A9456E8C9@VIP10-WIN2K> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Ethernet Interface - PING problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 06:35:31 -0000 On Wed, 4 May 2005, Toll, Eric wrote: > Do not allow the card to autonegotiate. > > Lock the speed and duplex to 100 Full. (If connecting to a switch) > Or 10 half if using an old hub. > > E.g. > > ifconfig_dc0="inet 192.168.254.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 100BaseTX mediaopt > full-duplex" I thought of this, except it was already auto negiciating into 100BaseTX full duplex according to the output of his ifconfig statment. So unless he is using a hub then it should be fine as far as i know... But hey, no harm in trying :) ~Neo-Vortex From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 10:00:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C4116A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:00:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ash25e.internode.on.net (ash25e.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7BB43D91 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:00:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Shane@007Marketing.com) Received: from [192.168.8.50] (ppp19-170.static.internode.on.net [150.101.19.170])j45A051I017686; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:30:06 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from Shane@007Marketing.com) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 19:29:56 +0930 From: Shane Ambler To: Roberto Corradi , FreeBSD Mailing Lists Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000a01c550e4$27c2a380$03fea8c0@guildurno> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ethernet Interface - PING problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 10:00:15 -0000 On 5/5/2005 5:32, "Roberto Corradi" wrote: >> Do you have any firewalls enabled on any of the box's? > > Yes, I've got a firewall enabled on the linux box which works > as server to provide the internet connection to the other > lan's boxes. But since I installed the LAN, I haven't got > any kind of ping/ethernet troubles with other operative systems > like Linux or Windows. > Yes but do you have the firewall turned on on the bsd machine? A bad config can block all traffic From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 12:03:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2965716A4CE; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:03:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postfix3-1.free.fr (postfix3-1.free.fr [213.228.0.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F3143D69; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:03:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from valery.seys@free.fr) Received: from imp2-q.free.fr (imp2-q.free.fr [212.27.42.2]) by postfix3-1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9C1173494; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:03:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: by imp2-q.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id 3652E64D88; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:57:26 +0200 (MEST) Received: from gambetta-2-82-67-185-6.fbx.proxad.net (gambetta-2-82-67-185-6.fbx.proxad.net [82.67.185.6]) by imp2-q.free.fr (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:57:26 +0200 Message-ID: <1115294246.427a0a261d38b@imp2-q.free.fr> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 13:57:26 +0200 From: valery.seys@free.fr To: bod@freebsdfoundation.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.5 X-Originating-IP: 82.67.185.6 cc: valery@vslash.com Subject: How to communicate now ? Not by the way of freedom. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:03:25 -0000 Yesterday : ----------------------------------------------------------- : host mx1.freebsd.org[216.136.204.125] said: 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [82.67.185.6] (in reply to RCPT TO command) recipient=freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From ----------------------------------------------------------- Nice days of freedom are gone away. *AOL* >> .. a lot .. >> *FreeBSD* What is the difference btw AOL and FreeBSD ? The former is a commercial entity, the later an Opensource fundation. At first view, there's no relationship, objectives and ethics are different. So, why both are using the same bad rules, ie rejecting your email because you don't have a hostname ? What is this new rule ? I can't see it in any RFC, STD. I respect the rules, you don't. There's no rules specifying that one MTA sending a mail must have an IP corresponding to its hostname. Why ? Because there's some little independant server like mine which are master of their zone but not of their IP, because their operators don't want to allow these guys this privilege, because they want monitor, control, manage and in fact sell their shits. They don't allow you to master your IP, they prefer to block your email saying : "every guy having a MTA is potentially a pirate ; the right MTA are ours, if you want to communicate you must use our very good MTA, not yours". I just ask for one question : who send virus ? For who is the benefice ? Not for freedom, not for guys respecting a democratic communication, and thinking about the Bell brothers sending their first octet btw two computers and saying : "wow, all people would communicate now, everywhere, a great step for freedom and democracy". You're rules are purely and simply a Wall of Berlin btw the freedom and a dictatorial view of the internet. First, these rules won't eliminate virus and sender of virus. Second, breaking these rules, you agree that any commercial and private entity can evolve their own law. It's a shame. Adopting their point of view is adopting their vision : the law of the stronger, the law of private entity. I repeat my question : who send virus ? Not me, not you, not your friends, not mines, ok, but who do ? On my side, i refuse to modify my MTA in order to accept this new rule ; i prefer stop sending emails. I sincerily regret that a fundation like FreeBSD adopt these rules. It's a failure, and this one is the one of the freedom, equality and democracy. Welcome to the new world, welcome to their world. Not mine, be sure. Don't be surprise to see RFID chips on our future identity cards, we are on the right way. "For your security" said the Whyte Man. Regards, Valéry Seys valery@vslash.com Paris "In a paranoiac world paranoiac guy says the truth" P.H. Dick From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 15:15:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6ED16A4CE; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:15:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from godzilla.vipstructures.com (godzilla.vipstructures.com [66.195.71.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E2C43D69; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:15:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etoll@vipstructures.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.vipstructures.com [127.0.0.1]) by godzilla.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA97928422; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:15:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from godzilla.vipstructures.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 34442-09; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:15:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mothra.vipstructures.com (mothra.vipstructures.com [192.168.1.3]) by godzilla.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC942841E; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:15:45 -0400 (EDT) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:15:45 -0400 Message-ID: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4D1F@VIP10-WIN2K> From: "Toll, Eric" To: , , , X-Antivirus: checked by Norton Anti Virus X-MTA-Mailer: Postfix 2 by Wietse Venema - http://www.postfix.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on godzilla.vipstructures.com cc: valery@vslash.com Subject: RE: How to communicate now ? Not by the way of freedom. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:15:46 -0000 >=20 > Yesterday : > ----------------------------------------------------------- > : host mx1.freebsd.org[216.136.204.125] > said: 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname,=20 > [82.67.185.6] (in reply to RCPT TO command)=20 > recipient=3Dfreebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > From > ----------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Nice days of freedom are gone away. It makes *no* sense to have an email address, and then send email from = an IP claiming to be associated with that domain, yet is not. Create a PTR = or "reverse mx" like you are suppose to. It looks like you already have: = (again your ISP should do this for FREE) =20 Interesting, I see:=20 vslash.com. 1h55m23s IN MX 10 mail.vslash.com. ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: vslash.com. 1h55m23s IN NS gw.vslash.com. vslash.com. 1h55m23s IN NS ns6.gandi.net. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: mail.vslash.com. 1h55m23s IN A 82.67.185.6 Now that wasn't so hard was it? From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 13:59:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB6916A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:59:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obelix.sunrise.ch (mailrelay3.sunrise.ch [194.158.229.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83DEB43D60 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:59:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) Received: from gicco.homeip.net (pop-zh-17-1-dialup-159.freesurf.ch [194.230.217.159]) by obelix.sunrise.ch (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j46DxJRY020279 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:59:19 +0200 Received: from gicco.here (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gicco.homeip.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j46DxEcD002895 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:59:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) Received: (from idefix@localhost) by gicco.here (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id j46DxDpE002894 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:59:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) X-Authentication-Warning: gicco.here: idefix set sender to hampi@rootshell.be using -f Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 15:59:13 +0200 From: Hanspeter Roth To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506135913.GA2781@gicco.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: switching radiation from wireless card off X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:59:22 -0000 Hello, when I don't use a PCMCIA wireless card I can simply plug it off the laptop. Then I know that there is no radiation from this card. What about a PCI wireless card. Is it sufficient to - ifconfig ath0 down - switch powersavemode on in order to stop radiation from a PCI wireless card? -Hanspeter From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 22:09:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB0316A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:09:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0768B43D1F for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:09:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brassing@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146])id j46M9F26025699 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.3.100] (pool-151-205-173-106.ny325.east.verizon.net [151.205.173.106]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j46M9DLf029761 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v728) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Henry Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 18:09:12 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.728) Subject: Legacy hardware dropped in 5.X X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 22:09:16 -0000 Why was support for some legacy hardware dropped in 5.X? I can't be really specific since my knowledge on my old old machine is limited... But it installs and works fine on 4.X but can't be installed using 5.X. To try and explain it more, it is an old compaq presario that uses a weird AGP? slot to attach another board to the main motherboard. The extra attachment board has ISA/PCI slots on it for me to install network cards on. This is a problem I see because removing it gets 5.X installed, but having it attached doesn't. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 10:55:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE3116A4D9 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:55:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tsukuba.m17n.org (tsukuba.m17n.org [192.47.44.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765CF43DA4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:55:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mule-admin@m17n.org) Received: from tsukuba.m17n.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])j47AsxdY014306 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 19:54:59 +0900 Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 19:54:59 +0900 From: mule-admin@m17n.org To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-Id: <200505071954.FMLAAB14302.mule@m17n.org> References: <6cbec3.da01e00f2be@qhvdtw.com> X-MLServer: fml [fml 4.0.3 release (20011202/4.0.3)] X-ML-Info: If you have a question, please contact mule-admin@m17n.org; Subject: You freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org are not member (mule ML) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 10:55:01 -0000 You are not a member of this mailing list . 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From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 16:55:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D32616A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:55:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vsmtp12.tin.it (vsmtp12.tin.it [212.216.176.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B7143D5E for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:55:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eivico@tin.it) Received: from guildurno (82.51.27.42) by vsmtp12.tin.it (7.0.027) id 4256506D00BC02D0 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:55:04 +0200 Message-ID: <001601c55325$8497bf80$03fea8c0@guildurno> From: "Roberto Corradi" To: Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 18:55:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Ethernet Interface - PING problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 16:55:07 -0000 > is your wirecable a cat. 5 not crossed ? Yes, it is. All my LAN is cabled with cat. 5 not crossed wirecable. > What about when you ping other box's? are the packets being sent out? > (tcpdump -vvv -i dc0 to get some more detailed output) Trying to ping 192.168.254.1 on ttyv1 I've got this output, using "tcpdump -vvv -i dc0" on ttyv0: tcpdump: listening on dc0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 = bytes May 7 14:26:30 guildurno kernel: dc0: promiscuous mode enabled 14:26:54.394958 arp who-has 192.168.254.1 tell guildurno.engineers 14:26:55.203946 arp who-has 192.168.254.1 tell guildurno.engineers 14:26:55.321328 arp who-has 192.168.254.1 tell guildurno.engineers 3 packets captured 3 packets received by filter 0 packets dropped by kernel "guildurno" is my host name and "engineers" is the domain network name. > Can you ping yourself? (127.0.0.1 and 192.168.254.3) Yes, I can ping myself, both address' 127.0.0.1 and 192.168.254.3 > other than that... im pretty stumped... dodgy NIC? If you mean something like "broken" with the term "dodgy", I cannot understand why my NIC works with others OS. But I'm not sure that is the right meaning for this word! ..I've got some english troubles too! ^_^ > Yes but do you have the firewall turned on on the bsd machine? > A bad config can block all traffic I think it's turned off on my bsd machine. I've looked on my rc.conf file, and I've found out: firewall_enable=3D"NO" I've tried to boot my system using FreeSBIE 1.1 (dvd bootable). Perhaps cause a bad system installation, my network interface didn't work (..no harm in trying). But I've still found out the same network problem. I can't ping any machines connected to my LAN. > Do not allow the card to autonegotiate. > > Lock the speed and duplex to 100 Full. (If connecting to a switch) > Or 10 half if using an old hub. > > E.g. > > ifconfig_dc0=3D"inet 192.168.254.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 media = 100BaseTX mediaopt > full-duplex" Yes, I've got a switch (Edimax Fast Ethernet 8 ports) When I started to figth this network problem, first of all I tried to lock the speed (like you wrote to me) but with no results. :-(( Thanks again guy's From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 20:57:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C6C16A4DD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:57:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668AE43D76 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:57:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (c211-30-75-229.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.75.229]) j47KvZqO017325 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 8 May 2005 06:57:36 +1000 Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (localhost.alcatel.com.au [127.0.0.1])j47KvZXw021177; Sun, 8 May 2005 06:57:35 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au) Received: (from pjeremy@localhost)j47KvZjw021176; Sun, 8 May 2005 06:57:35 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 06:57:35 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Henry Message-ID: <20050507205735.GH232@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Legacy hardware dropped in 5.X X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 20:57:38 -0000 On Fri, 2005-May-06 18:09:12 -0400, Henry wrote: >Why was support for some legacy hardware dropped in 5.X? AFAIK, only 80386 support in GENERIC. There may be other changes in drivers supported in GENERIC. > I can't be >really specific since my knowledge on my old old machine is >limited... But it installs and works fine on 4.X but can't be >installed using 5.X. Since you haven't explained what you mean by "can't be installed", I'm not sure we can help. Can you please describe exactly what error you are seeing and when. If it's an old machine, have you tried booting with ACPI disabled? Can you also place dmesg files from verbose boots on both 4.X and 5.X somewhere - that will show what the kernel thinks is different. -- Peter Jeremy From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 23:50:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7167116A4DD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:50:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Neo-Vortex.net (203-173-19-223.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.173.19.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 174DA43D31 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:50:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@Neo-Vortex.net) Received: from localhost.Neo-Vortex.net (Neo-Vortex@localhost.Neo-Vortex.net [127.0.0.1]) by Neo-Vortex.net (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j47NoEbr021390; Sun, 8 May 2005 09:50:15 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from root@Neo-Vortex.net) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 09:50:14 +1000 (EST) From: Neo-Vortex To: Roberto Corradi In-Reply-To: <001601c55325$8497bf80$03fea8c0@guildurno> Message-ID: <20050508094952.N20357@Neo-Vortex.net> References: <001601c55325$8497bf80$03fea8c0@guildurno> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ethernet Interface - PING problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 23:50:19 -0000 On Sat, 7 May 2005, Roberto Corradi wrote: > firewall_enable="NO" just to make sure it is disabled... try running this command: ipfw show and pasting the output