From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 07:24:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D7A16A41F for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:24:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C1943D48 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:24:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (c211-30-75-229.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.75.229]) by mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C7OiS8018326 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:24:46 +1000 Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (localhost.alcatel.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5C7OiRx050764; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:24:44 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au) Received: (from pjeremy@localhost) by cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id j5C7Oipf050763; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:24:44 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:24:44 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Oliver Lehmann Message-ID: <20050612072443.GB50157@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> References: <20050610222040.47326a5c.lehmann@ans-netz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050610222040.47326a5c.lehmann@ans-netz.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new keyboard - "special" keys useable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:24:57 -0000 On Fri, 2005-Jun-10 22:20:40 +0200, Oliver Lehmann wrote: >I'm planning to buy a new cordless keyboard+mouse. But as far as I can >see, there are only keyboards available with 8-25 "special" keys meant >for doing sth. special in windows (adjusting volume, open iexplore and so >on) >Can I make those keys somewhat useable with FreeBSD Do you want them usable in syscons or X11? For the former, see kbdmap(1) and kbdmap(5). For the latter, see setxkbmap(1) and friends or xmodmap(1). Note that in either case, you need to know the keycodes generated by the "special" keys - xev(1) can be useful for this. > so I can define for >example script "a" to execute when key "a" was pressed? In general, no. Syscons is limited to generating a single key character (including function keys) or special event known to the kernel (switch screens, halt, reboot, power off etc). X is somewhat more powerful but is still constrained to forwarding a single event to the X client (though you may be able to configure the client to perform arbitrary actions using the key bindings in the resource database). -- Peter Jeremy From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 18:38:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E9A16A41C; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:38:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: from adsl-63-198-35-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-63-198-35-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.198.35.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD52643D53; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:38:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by spot.Belkin (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5CINr0T000548; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:23:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Message-ID: <42AC7DB9.4070609@lbl.gov> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:23:53 -0700 From: "Jin Guojun [VFFS]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050108 X-Accept-Language: zh, zh-CN, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" References: <004a01c56c4e$b8dfa2c0$0200a8c0@bennypc> <20050608230958.GV64194@wantadilla.lemis.com> <864qc6wnz8.fsf@xps.des.no> <20050611015956.GK87456@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20050611015956.GK87456@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= , Benny Goemans , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ADSL for use on server X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:38:52 -0000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >On Friday, 10 June 2005 at 11:38:35 +0200, Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote: > > >>Greg 'groggy' Lehey writes: >> >> >>>The ADSL connections I know don't dial. >>> >>> >>PPPoE... >> >> > >The ADSL connections I know don't use PPPoE :-) > > I think PPPoE is not tied to DSL/ADSL, PPPoE is related to Dynamic IP link. If your ISP provides you a static IP connection, PPPoE will not apply. -Jin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 04:09:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBFA916A41F for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 04:09:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from linda-5.paradise.net.nz (bm-5a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.58.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6410143D4C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 04:09:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (smtp-3a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.196]) by linda-5.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0II200H6L3KJIP@linda-5.paradise.net.nz> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:09:55 +1200 (NZST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (218-101-14-73.paradise.net.nz [218.101.14.73]) by smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA44AAE5BB for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:09:54 +1200 (NZST) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:09:54 +1200 From: Mark Kirkwood To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-id: <42AE5892.4040109@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050511) Subject: Sound Blaster Live! support in 5.4 - but not Creative SB0410? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 04:09:56 -0000 I have installed a Creative sound blaster live 5.1 (SB0410) sound card in my desktop machine - only to discover that it appears to be unrecognized (see below). This is supposed to be a sound blaster live! card - is there any way to get it to be recognized/work? I am happy to hack a few kernel files... :-) $ scanpci pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x1106 device 0x0691 VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C693A/694x [Apollo PRO133x] pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x01 function 0x00: vendor 0x1106 device 0x8598 VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598/694x [Apollo MVP3/Pro133x AGP] pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x07 function 0x00: vendor 0x1106 device 0x0596 VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C596 ISA [Mobile South] pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x07 function 0x01: vendor 0x1106 device 0x0571 VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x07 function 0x02: vendor 0x1106 device 0x3038 VIA Technologies, Inc. USB pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x07 function 0x03: vendor 0x1106 device 0x3050 VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C596 Power Management pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x10 function 0x00: vendor 0x10ec device 0x8139 Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x13 function 0x00: vendor 0x1102 device 0x0007 Creative Labs Device unknown <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<* pci bus 0x0001 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x1002 device 0x4966 ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000] regards Mark From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 11:24:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262BE16A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:24:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonathan@fluent.ltd.uk) Received: from smtp001.apm-internet.net (smtp001.apm-internet.net [62.3.206.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FD0C43D1F for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:24:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonathan@fluent.ltd.uk) Received: (qmail 94208 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2005 11:24:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO JONATHAN) (62.3.196.98) by smtp001.apm-internet.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2005 11:24:00 -0000 Message-ID: <003601c570d3$8f51cbc0$62c4033e@JONATHAN> From: "Jonathan Gilpin" To: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:23:59 +0100 Organization: Fluent Ltd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Netcell SyncRaid SR3000/SR5000 FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:24:04 -0000 Hi've aquired a Netcell sync raid card and I've tried to install FreeBSD 5.4 on it. Its the amd64 branch. When the machine boots I get errors like this: Failure - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER timed out The raid array does appear to be detected however when I use the fisk utility durring the installation it complains about the drive geometry. FreeBSD detects: Cyl/Hd/Sect 94415/255/63 The utility suggests using 911534/104/16 I agree to this and it then says that this suggest geometry is invalid. I continue and when it comes to make the new file system it gives the time out errors above and then complains it cannot write to the disk. Communication with Netcell produced the following: "I wanted to give you an update about the drive geometry value question. I spoke with our CTO today, and he indicates that drive geometry values are an old style of extremely low level calls to the hard drive that are no longer used by most modern operating systems, who now generally use LBA addressing. If FreeBSD is trying to make drive geometry calls through the generic hard drive driver to our card, we will be unable to translate them appropriately. If this is correct, than in order to work on FreeBSD we would need to write a driver that will be able to translate the calls appropriately, as indicated in this documentation about SCSI controllers http://www.infran.ru/TechInfo/BSD/handbook116.html. " my questions... I really need to get this card working on FreeBSD. Is there anyone on this list who can give me some guidence as to what information Netcell would need to produce this driver? Are there any coders working with FreeBSD that would help produce this driver? Are there any work arounds or quick fixes that can be tried to get things working? Jonathan From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 14:33:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA2816A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:33:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dean@bong.com.au) Received: from aramaki.bong.com.au (aramaki.bong.com.au [203.91.232.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4DA43D58 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:33:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dean@bong.com.au) Received: from dsl-220-253-70-154.nsw.netspace.net.au ([220.253.70.154] helo=[192.168.1.36]) by aramaki.bong.com.au with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DiCTu-0008A7-2H; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:33:36 +1000 Message-ID: <42AEEA86.9010906@bong.com.au> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:32:38 +1000 From: Dean Hamstead User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050401) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Gilpin References: <003601c570d3$8f51cbc0$62c4033e@JONATHAN> In-Reply-To: <003601c570d3$8f51cbc0$62c4033e@JONATHAN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "aramaki.bong.com.au", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see staff@bong.com.au for details. Content preview: [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-Spam-Scanned-By: aramaki.bong.com.au X-Scan-Signature: be2a3cd88360b5a12915c0eee788804d Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netcell SyncRaid SR3000/SR5000 FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:33:21 -0000 can you get it running on another system? then just dd the drive to an image, copy it someplace then mount it and extract the data. if its really ancient, why are you running it on a really brand new piece of hardware? hence my assumption you just want data off it. old scsi raid cards with better support are dirt cheap on ebay. mylex's etc got for ~au$30 and do hardware scsi (not sure which scsi level). Dean Jonathan Gilpin wrote: > Hi've aquired a Netcell sync raid card and I've tried to install FreeBSD > 5.4 on it. > Its the amd64 branch. When the machine boots I get errors like this: > > Failure - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER timed out > > The raid array does appear to be detected however when I use the fisk > utility durring the installation it complains about the drive geometry. > > FreeBSD detects: Cyl/Hd/Sect 94415/255/63 > > The utility suggests using 911534/104/16 I agree to this and it then says > that this suggest geometry is invalid. I continue and when it comes to > make the new file system it gives the time out errors above and then > complains > it cannot write to the disk. > > Communication with Netcell produced the following: > > "I wanted to give you an update about the drive geometry value question. > I spoke with our CTO today, and he indicates that drive geometry values > are an old style of extremely low level calls to the hard drive that are > no longer used by most modern operating systems, who now generally use > LBA addressing. If FreeBSD is trying to make drive geometry calls > through the generic hard drive driver to our card, we will be unable to > translate them appropriately. If this is correct, than in order to work > on FreeBSD we would need to write a driver that will be able to > translate the calls appropriately, as indicated in this documentation > about SCSI controllers > http://www.infran.ru/TechInfo/BSD/handbook116.html. > " > > my questions... > > I really need to get this card working on FreeBSD. Is there anyone on > this list who can give me some guidence as to what information Netcell > would need to produce this driver? Are there any coders working with > FreeBSD > that would help produce this driver? Are there any work arounds or quick > fixes that can be tried to get things working? > > > Jonathan > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: dean@bong.com.au or djzort@bong.com.au ICQ: 16867613 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 14:34:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13B316A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:34:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonathan@fluent.ltd.uk) Received: from smtp001.apm-internet.net (smtp001.apm-internet.net [62.3.206.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4ED0E43D5C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:34:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonathan@fluent.ltd.uk) Received: (qmail 7901 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2005 14:34:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO JONATHAN) (62.3.196.98) by smtp001.apm-internet.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2005 14:34:50 -0000 Message-ID: <003401c570ee$38190ba0$62c4033e@JONATHAN> From: "Jonathan Gilpin" To: "Dean Hamstead" References: <003601c570d3$8f51cbc0$62c4033e@JONATHAN> <42AEEA86.9010906@bong.com.au> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:34:49 +0100 Organization: Fluent Ltd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netcell SyncRaid SR3000/SR5000 FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:34:54 -0000 The card is brand new. They are suggesting FreeBSD's card support is ancient. Jonathan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Hamstead" To: "Jonathan Gilpin" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 3:32 PM Subject: Re: Netcell SyncRaid SR3000/SR5000 FreeBSD > can you get it running on another system? then just > dd the drive to an image, copy it someplace then mount > it and extract the data. > > if its really ancient, why are you running it on a > really brand new piece of hardware? hence my assumption > you just want data off it. > > old scsi raid cards with better support are dirt cheap > on ebay. mylex's etc got for ~au$30 and do hardware scsi > (not sure which scsi level). > > Dean > > Jonathan Gilpin wrote: >> Hi've aquired a Netcell sync raid card and I've tried to install FreeBSD >> 5.4 on it. >> Its the amd64 branch. When the machine boots I get errors like this: >> >> Failure - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER timed out >> >> The raid array does appear to be detected however when I use the fisk >> utility durring the installation it complains about the drive geometry. >> >> FreeBSD detects: Cyl/Hd/Sect 94415/255/63 >> >> The utility suggests using 911534/104/16 I agree to this and it then says >> that this suggest geometry is invalid. I continue and when it comes to >> make the new file system it gives the time out errors above and then >> complains >> it cannot write to the disk. >> >> Communication with Netcell produced the following: >> >> "I wanted to give you an update about the drive geometry value question. >> I spoke with our CTO today, and he indicates that drive geometry values >> are an old style of extremely low level calls to the hard drive that are >> no longer used by most modern operating systems, who now generally use >> LBA addressing. If FreeBSD is trying to make drive geometry calls >> through the generic hard drive driver to our card, we will be unable to >> translate them appropriately. If this is correct, than in order to work >> on FreeBSD we would need to write a driver that will be able to >> translate the calls appropriately, as indicated in this documentation >> about SCSI controllers >> http://www.infran.ru/TechInfo/BSD/handbook116.html. >> " >> >> my questions... >> >> I really need to get this card working on FreeBSD. Is there anyone on >> this list who can give me some guidence as to what information Netcell >> would need to produce this driver? Are there any coders working with >> FreeBSD >> that would help produce this driver? Are there any work arounds or quick >> fixes that can be tried to get things working? >> >> >> Jonathan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > -- > WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au > EMAIL: dean@bong.com.au or djzort@bong.com.au > ICQ: 16867613 > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 15 13:00:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70F916A41C for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:00:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmartin37@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail25.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail25.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E6643D53 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:00:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmartin37@speakeasy.net) Received: (qmail 8569 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2005 13:00:09 -0000 Received: from adsl-211-141-154.asm.bellsouth.net (HELO [192.168.2.101]) (moonlightcheese@[68.211.141.154]) (envelope-sender ) by mail25.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Jun 2005 13:00:09 -0000 Message-ID: <42B02654.2040904@speakeasy.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:00:04 -0400 From: JM User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2-1.3.3 (X11/20050513) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: disabling ata devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:00:12 -0000 i'm not exactly sure how to accomplish this... i'm having problems with my cd-rom, which isn't surprising since it's a slim-line without UDMA and probably isn't supported... but... it's eating up time when i'm booting the system. i've erased the fstab lines for acd0 but it's still probing the hardware when i boot the machine. how do i completely disable probing for this device at startup? if possible i'd like to just remove the device node altogether. every time i remove /dev/acd0 it's just recreated each time i restart. not sure how to permanently remove it without physically removing it from the system. is there anyway to remove the node without removing the iso9660 entry from the kernel? From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 15 16:03:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F0416A41C; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:03:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girgen@FreeBSD.org) Received: from melon.pingpong.net (82.milagro.bahnhof.net [195.178.168.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B257043D55; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:03:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girgen@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.pingpong.net [127.0.0.1]) by melon.pingpong.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126644ACC8; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:03:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from melon.pingpong.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (melon.pingpong.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25489-01-13; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:03:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.187] (rambutan.pingpong.net [192.168.1.187]) by melon.pingpong.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C897C4ACC4; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:03:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:03:31 +0200 From: Palle Girgensohn To: stable@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at pingpong.net Cc: Subject: Proliant 380 G4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:03:34 -0000 Hi! Just a quick check - a client is getting a Proliant 380 G4 with a "6i" Raid controller. Haven't used this hardware before. Will it work fine with FreeBSD? Which version will work best, 5.4 or 4.11? Any peculiarities or things to think about? Any input appreciated! Thanks Palle From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 15 17:17:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1DF16A41C; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:17:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulf@alameda.net) Received: from evil.alameda.net (evil.alameda.net [64.81.53.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8E943D55; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:17:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulf@alameda.net) Received: by evil.alameda.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 21A0F33C3B; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:17:20 -0700 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Palle Girgensohn Message-ID: <20050615171719.GC65570@evil.alameda.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE X-ANI-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ANI-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ANI-MailScanner-From: ulf@alameda.net Cc: stable@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proliant 380 G4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:17:22 -0000 On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 06:03:31PM +0200, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > Hi! > > Just a quick check - a client is getting a Proliant 380 G4 with a "6i" Raid > controller. Haven't used this hardware before. Will it work fine with > FreeBSD? Which version will work best, 5.4 or 4.11? Any peculiarities or > things to think about? > > Any input appreciated! > > Thanks > Palle I run 5.3-Release on my DL380g3 with a SmartArray 6402, which is basicly the same controller as the 6i (just not embedded, it is a PCI-X card). No problems whatsoever. -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204 You can find my resume at: http://seven.Alameda.net/~ulf/resume.html From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 15 17:27:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E9A16A41C; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:27:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (ms-2.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C37C43D48; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:27:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from r220-1 (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0II4007EIZ5JKW@ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:27:20 +0200 (MEST) Received: from relay.rwth-aachen.de ([134.130.3.1]) by r220-1 (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:27:19 +0200 (MEST) Received: from haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.181.92]) by relay.rwth-aachen.de (8.13.3/8.13.3/1) with ESMTP id j5FHRIwa005897; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:27:18 +0200 (MEST) Received: by haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4BD4128439; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:27:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:27:17 +0200 From: Christian Brueffer In-reply-to: To: Palle Girgensohn Message-id: <20050615172717.GD2158@unixpages.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="pZs/OQEoSSbxGlYw"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-PGP-Key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D References: Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Proliant 380 G4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:27:21 -0000 --pZs/OQEoSSbxGlYw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 06:03:31PM +0200, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > Hi! >=20 > Just a quick check - a client is getting a Proliant 380 G4 with a "6i" Ra= id=20 > controller. Haven't used this hardware before. Will it work fine with=20 > FreeBSD? Which version will work best, 5.4 or 4.11? Any peculiarities or= =20 > things to think about? >=20 The card is listed as supported in the ciss(4) manpage. - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --pZs/OQEoSSbxGlYw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCsGT1bHYXjKDtmC0RAroZAKCm3krEd87zpgyljPEShL2JzThLlQCcDW0f Vqcb/u5hrFIvl5xbfJQAgAM= =1uCO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pZs/OQEoSSbxGlYw-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 15 18:14:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B443E16A41C; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:14:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Philippe.Pegon@crc.u-strasbg.fr) Received: from mailhost.u-strasbg.fr (mailhost.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.200.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B5743D1F; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:14:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Philippe.Pegon@crc.u-strasbg.fr) Received: from sokaris.u-strasbg.fr (sokaris.u-strasbg.fr [IPv6:2001:660:2402::101]) by mailhost.u-strasbg.fr (8.13.1/jtpda-5.5pre1) with ESMTP id j5FIEoaI089655 ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:14:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (crc.u-strasbg.fr [IPv6:2001:660:2402:1001::1]) by sokaris.u-strasbg.fr (8.12.9/jtpda-5.5pre1) with ESMTP id j5FIEntt079183 ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:14:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42B07179.4020407@crc.u-strasbg.fr> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:20:41 +0200 From: Philippe PEGON User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050331) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Palle Girgensohn References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070604050809070201070309" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (mailhost.u-strasbg.fr [IPv6:2001:660:2402::158]); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:14:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Antivirus: scanned by sophos at u-strasbg.fr Cc: stable@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proliant 380 G4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:14:53 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070604050809070201070309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Palle Girgensohn a écrit : > Hi! > > Just a quick check - a client is getting a Proliant 380 G4 with a "6i" > Raid controller. Haven't used this hardware before. Will it work fine > with FreeBSD? Which version will work best, 5.4 or 4.11? Any > peculiarities or things to think about? > > Any input appreciated! we have 3 Proliant 380 G4 and hardware works fine. For your information, I attach a dmesg of one of them. I've just another problem, but I don't think that it comes from hardware : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-June/015952.html > > Thanks > Palle -- Philippe PEGON --------------070604050809070201070309 Content-Type: text/plain; name="dmesg.boot" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dmesg.boot" Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #3: Thu May 19 20:35:36 CEST 2005 root@crc.u-strasbg.fr:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NS1A Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3600.15-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf41 Stepping = 1 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 2147430400 (2047 MB) avail memory = 2095968256 (1998 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 6 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard ioapic3 irqs 72-95 on motherboard ioapic4 irqs 96-119 on motherboard npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x908-0x90b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 pcib0: on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 0.0 on pci2 pci3: on pcib2 bge0: mem 0xfdef0000-0xfdefffff irq 25 at device 1.0 on pci3 miibus0: on bge0 brgphy0: on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto bge0: Ethernet address: 00:12:79:d8:a0:37 bge1: mem 0xfdee0000-0xfdeeffff irq 26 at device 1.1 on pci3 miibus1: on bge1 brgphy1: on miibus1 brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto bge1: Ethernet address: 00:12:79:d8:a0:36 pcib3: at device 0.2 on pci2 pci4: on pcib3 ciss0: port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 0xfdf80000-0xfdfbffff,0xfdff0000-0xfdff1fff irq 51 at device 3.0 on pci4 pcib4: at device 6.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib4 pcib5: at device 0.0 on pci5 pci6: on pcib5 pcib6: at device 0.2 on pci5 pci10: on pcib6 uhci0: port 0x2000-0x201f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x2020-0x203f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0x2040-0x205f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0x2060-0x207f irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0 usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 29.7 (no driver attached) pcib7: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib7 pci1: at device 3.0 (no driver attached) pci1: at device 4.0 (no driver attached) pci1: at device 4.2 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x500-0x50f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4 sio0: port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A fdc0: port 0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: does not respond device_attach: fdc0 attach returned 6 fdc0: port 0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: does not respond device_attach: fdc0 attach returned 6 orm0: at iomem 0xee000-0xeffff,0xc8000-0xcbfff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec acd0: CDROM at ata0-master PIO4 da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 135.168MB/s transfers da0: 34727MB (71122560 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 8716C) da1 at ciss0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da1: 135.168MB/s transfers da1: 69455MB (142245120 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 17432C) SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a --------------070604050809070201070309-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 15 18:55:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C0E16A41C for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:55:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bfarrokhi@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D161F43D55 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:55:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bfarrokhi@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so724244wri for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:55:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LgaefUQQLw9rQ3MxpVCuj3/IQrKnlXVBrIpo2K9oMg2SZkB/FswD1OnN8+K/J2tjP6CCXF7R5dFo0W0/lMjfzUN2MrzfmYShvn1Da0j4+8WlD6BSXAn/FBoFvYx4orsSiT3Pv8vRnI+Zm6ecorPbs34Aze7YexKP+MbsJiPzAuc= Received: by 10.54.133.3 with SMTP id g3mr4327740wrd; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.3.37 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9f7e126b05061511551a16aad2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:25:41 +0430 From: Babak Farrokhi To: Philippe PEGON In-Reply-To: <42B07179.4020407@crc.u-strasbg.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42B07179.4020407@crc.u-strasbg.fr> Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Palle Girgensohn , hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proliant 380 G4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Babak Farrokhi List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:55:44 -0000 The 6i controller support is included in 4.11, so if you want to go with 4.x family, 4.11 is your best bet. I am also running 5.3 and 5.4 on G4s without any problem. -- Babak Farrokhi On 6/15/05, Philippe PEGON wrote: > Palle Girgensohn a =E9crit : > > Hi! > > > > Just a quick check - a client is getting a Proliant 380 G4 with a "6i" > > Raid controller. Haven't used this hardware before. Will it work fine > > with FreeBSD? Which version will work best, 5.4 or 4.11? Any > > peculiarities or things to think about? > > > > Any input appreciated! >=20 > we have 3 Proliant 380 G4 and hardware works fine. For your information, = I attach a dmesg of one of > them. I've just another problem, but I don't think that it comes from har= dware : >=20 > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-June/015952.html >=20 > > > > Thanks > > Palle >=20 > -- > Philippe PEGON >=20 >=20 > Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #3: Thu May 19 20:35:36 CEST 2005 > root@crc.u-strasbg.fr:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NS1A > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3600.15-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0xf41 Stepping =3D 1 > Features=3D0xbfebfbff > Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs > real memory =3D 2147430400 (2047 MB) > avail memory =3D 2095968256 (1998 MB) > ACPI APIC Table: > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 6 > ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard > ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard > ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard > ioapic3 irqs 72-95 on motherboard > ioapic4 irqs 96-119 on motherboard > npx0: on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 > acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x908-0x90b on acpi0 > cpu0: on acpi0 > cpu1: on acpi0 > pcib0: on acpi0 > pci0: on pcib0 > pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 > pci2: on pcib1 > pcib2: at device 0.0 on pci2 > pci3: on pcib2 > bge0: mem 0xf= def0000-0xfdefffff irq 25 at device 1.0 on pci3 > miibus0: on bge0 > brgphy0: on miibus0 > brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 100= 0baseTX-FDX, auto > bge0: Ethernet address: 00:12:79:d8:a0:37 > bge1: mem 0xf= dee0000-0xfdeeffff irq 26 at device 1.1 on pci3 > miibus1: on bge1 > brgphy1: on miibus1 > brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 100= 0baseTX-FDX, auto > bge1: Ethernet address: 00:12:79:d8:a0:36 > pcib3: at device 0.2 on pci2 > pci4: on pcib3 > ciss0: port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 0xfdf80000-0xfdfbffff,0= xfdff0000-0xfdff1fff irq 51 at device 3.0 on pci4 > pcib4: at device 6.0 on pci0 > pci5: on pcib4 > pcib5: at device 0.0 on pci5 > pci6: on pcib5 > pcib6: at device 0.2 on pci5 > pci10: on pcib6 > uhci0: port 0x2000-0x201f irq= 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci1: port 0x2020-0x203f irq= 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 > usb1: on uhci1 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci2: port 0x2040-0x205f irq= 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 > usb2: on uhci2 > usb2: USB revision 1.0 > uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci3: port 0x2060-0x207f irq= 16 at device 29.3 on pci0 > usb3: on uhci3 > usb3: USB revision 1.0 > uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > pci0: at device 29.7 (no driver attached) > pcib7: at device 30.0 on pci0 > pci1: on pcib7 > pci1: at device 3.0 (no driver attached) > pci1: at device 4.0 (no driver attached) > pci1: at device 4.2 (no driver attached) > isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > atapci0: port 0x500-0x50f,0x376,0x170-0x1= 77,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 on pci0 > ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 > ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 > acpi_tz0: on acpi0 > atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 > atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > kbd0 at atkbd0 > psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 > psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4 > sio0: port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 > sio0: type 16550A > fdc0: port 0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acp= i0 > fdc0: does not respond > device_attach: fdc0 attach returned 6 > fdc0: port 0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acp= i0 > fdc0: does not respond > device_attach: fdc0 attach returned 6 > orm0: at iomem 0xee000-0xeffff,0xc8000-0xcbfff,0xc0000-= 0xc7fff on isa0 > pmtimer0 on isa0 > ppc0: parallel port not found. > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> > sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 > sio1: type 16550A > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 > Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec > acd0: CDROM at ata0-master PIO4 > da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da0: 135.168MB/s transfers > da0: 34727MB (71122560 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 8716C) > da1 at ciss0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 > da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da1: 135.168MB/s transfers > da1: 69455MB (142245120 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 17432C) > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 -- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 16 12:55:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8496916A41C for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:55:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1AD443D49 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:55:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430CF60FC; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:55:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from xps.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by tim.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8BD60F9; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:55:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: by xps.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1B03333C52; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:55:10 +0200 (CEST) To: "Jonathan Gilpin" References: <003601c570d3$8f51cbc0$62c4033e@JONATHAN> From: des@des.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:55:10 +0200 In-Reply-To: <003601c570d3$8f51cbc0$62c4033e@JONATHAN> (Jonathan Gilpin's message of "Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:23:59 +0100") Message-ID: <86is0e4g29.fsf@xps.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Learn: ham X-Spam-Score: -5.2/5.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on tim.des.no Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netcell SyncRaid SR3000/SR5000 FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:55:19 -0000 "Jonathan Gilpin" writes: > The raid array does appear to be detected however when I use the fisk > utility durring the installation it complains about the drive geometry. > > FreeBSD detects: Cyl/Hd/Sect 94415/255/63 > > The utility suggests using 911534/104/16 I agree to this and it then says > that this suggest geometry is invalid. I continue and when it comes to > make the new file system it gives the time out errors above and then comp= lains > it cannot write to the disk. These problems are unrelated. FreeBSD does not care about drive geometry. The reason fdisk(1) mentions it is that the geometry (or actually a fake but plausible geometry - modern disks can't be accurately described in terms of C/H/S) is encoded in the MBR for legacy reasons. If the numbers in the MBR are wrong, the BIOS may be unable to load FreeBSD from disk when it boots. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 16 13:14:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3297716A41C for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:14:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonathan@fluent.ltd.uk) Received: from smtp001.apm-internet.net (smtp001.apm-internet.net [62.3.206.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90A9943D49 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:14:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonathan@fluent.ltd.uk) Received: (qmail 30015 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2005 13:14:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO JONATHAN) (62.3.196.98) by smtp001.apm-internet.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2005 13:14:46 -0000 Message-ID: <058801c57275$5c31b9f0$62c4033e@JONATHAN> From: "Jonathan Gilpin" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav=22?= References: <003601c570d3$8f51cbc0$62c4033e@JONATHAN> <86is0e4g29.fsf@xps.des.no> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:14:43 +0100 Organization: Fluent Ltd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netcell SyncRaid SR3000/SR5000 FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:14:51 -0000 >These problems are unrelated. FreeBSD does not care about drive >geometry. The reason fdisk(1) mentions it is that the geometry (or >actually a fake but plausible geometry - modern disks can't be >accurately described in terms of C/H/S) is encoded in the MBR for >legacy reasons. If the numbers in the MBR are wrong, the BIOS may be >unable to load FreeBSD from disk when it boots. Would asking the manufacturer to suggest a suitable geometry for FreeBSD solve anything? Or are there any tools which can be used to do this? Jonathan http://www.fluent.ltd.uk/ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 16 13:30:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA3B16A41C for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:30:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3F243D4C for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:30:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A4E60F9; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:30:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from xps.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by tim.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id B164360F5; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:30:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: by xps.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 915CA33C52; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:30:11 +0200 (CEST) To: "Jonathan Gilpin" References: <003601c570d3$8f51cbc0$62c4033e@JONATHAN> <86is0e4g29.fsf@xps.des.no> <058801c57275$5c31b9f0$62c4033e@JONATHAN> From: des@des.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:30:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: <058801c57275$5c31b9f0$62c4033e@JONATHAN> (Jonathan Gilpin's message of "Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:14:43 +0100") Message-ID: <86aclq4efw.fsf@xps.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Learn: ham X-Spam-Score: -5.2/5.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on tim.des.no Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netcell SyncRaid SR3000/SR5000 FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:30:18 -0000 "Jonathan Gilpin" writes: > Would asking the manufacturer to suggest a suitable geometry for > FreeBSD solve anything? No. Just ask fdisk(1) to use the geometry reported by the BIOS instead of cooking up its own. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 23:54:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54C616A41F for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:54:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lgadallah@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5149F43D49 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:54:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lgadallah@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so1208360wra for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:54:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=PIkeEL1Xtf6yFJ99X6gc51gQKnsDaNHUI12hpcBGG/i/WbKvFYRXLKX6AAWkrWt1+p/VnwjZ3DqS/6uW8GUm9cgonHZlkos7l5nw7Au8QJsvfUmkQEUdD7uBElhrf9g7GMneG0zS2qvFZ1SizfVL6Oqq3bzIi1YUYveHwFcGStk= Received: by 10.54.68.16 with SMTP id q16mr1462312wra; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.102.18 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9d5506db05061716541e943131@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:54:39 -0700 From: Larry Gadallah To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Random resets - N440BX X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Larry Gadallah List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:54:40 -0000 Hello all: I have a long running and (so far) very solid Intel N440BX motherboard in an Intel Columbus case, dual P-II 400 Mhz, 512M of ECC RAM, two Fujitsu SCSI-2 drives, etc. For the past 3-4 years, I've run FreeBSD 3.5 through 4.11 on this box, until about a month ago when I noticed that it was down. On investigation, I found out that one of the P-II fansinks had fallen off its CPU. Needless to say, the associated CPU self-destructed. I bought a couple of P-III 550 Mhz CPUs and put them in, and everything was fine, or so I thought. Now I'm experiencing random reboots, no core dumps or log messages and I'm trying to figure out what's gone wrong. I've dug up a few notes indicating that power supply or RAM are suspect. Does anyone know if going from P-IIs to P-IIIs would cause that much more stress on what should be a very solid system? Thanks in advance... --=20 Larry Gadallah, lgadallah AT gmail DOT com From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 18 00:19:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA7516A41C; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:19:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sclements@linkline.com) Received: from smtp1.linkline.com (smtp1.linkline.com [66.59.235.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016C343D55; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:19:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sclements@linkline.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (host-66-59-225-129.lcinet.net [66.59.225.129]) by smtp1.linkline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA589CD13; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:19:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42B3686B.9000904@linkline.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:18:51 -0700 From: Samuel Clements User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Larry Gadallah References: <9d5506db05061716541e943131@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9d5506db05061716541e943131@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Random resets - N440BX X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:19:31 -0000 Larry Gadallah wrote: > Hello all: Hi! > Now I'm experiencing random reboots, no core dumps or log messages and > I'm trying to figure out what's gone wrong. I've dug up a few notes > indicating that power supply or RAM are suspect. Does anyone know if > going from P-IIs to P-IIIs would cause that much more stress on what > should be a very solid system? Check to make sure the PBA rev of your board supports the PIII's http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/n440bx/sb/cs-014901.htm Also, as with most all Intel server hardware make sure you have the latest BMC and BIOS loaded... > Thanks in advance... You're welcome! -Sam From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 18 03:05:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD2F16A41C for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:05:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from l0kit0@exactas.org) Received: from elsaurio.com.ar (200-32-4-157.prima.net.ar [200.32.4.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E461343D1F for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:05:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from l0kit0@exactas.org) Received: (qmail 4163 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2005 03:04:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 62-241-126-200.fibertel.com.ar) (200.126.241.62) by 200-32-4-157.prima.net.ar with SMTP; 18 Jun 2005 03:04:53 -0000 From: Luciano Musacchio To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:01:58 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506180001.58732.l0kit0@exactas.org> Subject: postfix or qmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:05:48 -0000 hi, I've a simple question, postfix or qmail? :), I've a fair review for both from some linux admins, now, I want to know fbsd's community opinion :). The mail server (now running sendmail) serves ~300 accounts. Other thing (perhaps, the one that I interest more your opinion), do anyone know why MacOS X Server is using postfix instead of qmail? (i mean, the latter is far more popular, right?), thanks ppl -- "Los buenos artistas copian, los grandes roban" -- Steve Jobs From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 18 03:30:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1743216A41C for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:30:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@goodleaf.net) Received: from goodleaf.net (clyde.goodleaf.net [64.95.191.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC50743D1F for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:30:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@goodleaf.net) Received: by goodleaf.net (Postfix, from userid 1701) id 1B5315A2A; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clyde (localhost.goodleaf.net [127.0.0.1]) by goodleaf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F85E57EA for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 192.168.1.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user goodleaf); by www.goodleaf.net with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50685.192.168.1.6.1119065443.squirrel@192.168.1.6> In-Reply-To: <200506180001.58732.l0kit0@exactas.org> References: <200506180001.58732.l0kit0@exactas.org> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:30:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "John Goodleaf" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=3.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on clyde.goodleaf.net Subject: Re: postfix or qmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:30:40 -0000 You may have better luck with this question on a different list, but I'll throw one out there. I prefer postfix. I'm not knocking qmail, which is a fine piece of software. I just think postfix is a bit cleaner and easier to configure and maintain. For my purposes it has been adequately powerful, though I believe qmail has a broader range of add-on products sitting around. J Luciano Musacchio said: > hi, > I've a simple question, postfix or qmail? :), I've a fair review for > both from > some linux admins, now, I want to know fbsd's community opinion :). > The mail > server (now running sendmail) serves ~300 accounts. > > Other thing (perhaps, the one that I interest more your opinion), do > anyone > know why MacOS X Server is using postfix instead of qmail? (i mean, > the > latter is far more popular, right?), > > thanks ppl > > -- > "Los buenos artistas copian, los grandes roban" -- Steve Jobs > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 18 07:25:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE1616A41C; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 07:25:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail24.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail24.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9432F43D1F; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 07:25:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (c220-239-8-51.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.8.51]) by mail24.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5I7PrwM022127 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:25:53 +1000 Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (localhost.alcatel.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5I7PrRx062735; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:25:53 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au) Received: (from pjeremy@localhost) by cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id j5I7PqoO062734; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:25:52 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:25:52 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Larry Gadallah Message-ID: <20050618072552.GN50157@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> References: <9d5506db05061716541e943131@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9d5506db05061716541e943131@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Random resets - N440BX X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 07:25:56 -0000 On Fri, 2005-Jun-17 16:54:39 -0700, Larry Gadallah wrote: >Now I'm experiencing random reboots, no core dumps or log messages and >I'm trying to figure out what's gone wrong. I've dug up a few notes >indicating that power supply or RAM are suspect. Does anyone know if >going from P-IIs to P-IIIs would cause that much more stress on what >should be a very solid system? The P-III's are presumably a newer process than the P-II's so they probably draw about the same amount of power. That said, the (presumably) reduced Vcore (and increased current) will increase the stress on the motherboard Vcore regulator. If Samuel's suggestions don't pan out, I'd start looking at the electrolytic capacitors in your PSU and/or motherboard. After 3-4 years of continuous use, they may be getting marginal - particularly if any are near heat-producing components. Replacing the electros on the motherboard isn't a particularly difficuly task if you have a decent soldering iron, solder sucker and are used to working on boards with plated-through holes. -- Peter Jeremy From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 18 07:52:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E8E16A41C for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 07:52:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.nl) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281A543D1D for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 07:52:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.nl) Received: from wcborstel.demon.nl ([82.161.134.53]:19842 helo=[192.168.1.4]) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DjY7l-000Och-5v; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 07:52:17 +0000 Message-ID: <42B3D2B0.2040000@wcborstel.nl> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:52:16 +0200 From: Jorn Argelo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luciano Musacchio References: <200506180001.58732.l0kit0@exactas.org> In-Reply-To: <200506180001.58732.l0kit0@exactas.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: postfix or qmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 07:52:21 -0000 Luciano Musacchio wrote: >hi, >I've a simple question, postfix or qmail? :), I've a fair review for both from >some linux admins, now, I want to know fbsd's community opinion :). The mail >server (now running sendmail) serves ~300 accounts. > >Other thing (perhaps, the one that I interest more your opinion), do anyone >know why MacOS X Server is using postfix instead of qmail? (i mean, the >latter is far more popular, right?), > >thanks ppl > > > Postfix is getting more popular every day. At first is was just an application to provide an alternative for Sendmail. But now these days Postfix is being used more often. I have no experience with qmail, but my experience with postfix is really good. I can't judge which one is better or not but I'd go with Postfix all the way. And Ubuntu uses Postfix as well, while Debian uses Exim. (Correct me if I'm wrong). And on my work (large enterprise) we use Postfix as well for mail in, mail out and relaying. Works really great. I hope my information is of some use for you. Cheers, Jorn. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 18 08:34:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646C316A41C for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:34:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2001943D48 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:34:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FA160F3; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:34:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from xps.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by tim.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE57060F2; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:34:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: by xps.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C159633C23; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:34:45 +0200 (CEST) To: Luciano Musacchio References: <200506180001.58732.l0kit0@exactas.org> From: des@des.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:34:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: <200506180001.58732.l0kit0@exactas.org> (Luciano Musacchio's message of "Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:01:58 +0000") Message-ID: <86wtosf4gq.fsf@xps.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Learn: ham X-Spam-Score: -5.2/5.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on tim.des.no Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: postfix or qmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:34:55 -0000 Luciano Musacchio writes: > I've a simple question, postfix or qmail? :) Stay away from qmail. It has a number of serious problems including non-compliance with Internet standards, poor scalability and poor bounce processing model (the latter makes it ideal as a spam relay / amplifier, especially for email-borne viruses) Do you really want to trust your email to a piece of software that hasn't been updated in seven years, and is distributed under a license that explicitly forbids fixing its many flaws? > Other thing (perhaps, the one that I interest more your opinion), do > anyone know why MacOS X Server is using postfix instead of qmail? (i > mean, the latter is far more popular, right?) I doubt it. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 18 09:48:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B7716A41C for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:48:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@hausro.de) Received: from mail3.netbeat.de (mail3.netbeat.de [193.254.185.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2EAE443D1F for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:48:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@hausro.de) Received: (qmail 29998 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2005 09:48:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maximus) (85.186.64.88) by mail3.netbeat.de with SMTP; 18 Jun 2005 09:48:55 -0000 Message-ID: <003001c573eb$17ddae40$6400a8c0@maximus> From: "ANdrei" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav=22?= References: <200506180001.58732.l0kit0@exactas.org> <86wtosf4gq.fsf@xps.des.no> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:49:57 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: postfix or qmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:48:58 -0000 I don't think that qMail is *that* bad :) it's actually a really good piece of software, has lots of addons u can use with it and it sure is quite fast... we managed 20.000+ internet domains (i suppose about 50.000+ eMail boxes) on a single Pentium around 1GHz with 512MB RAM, and it kept going... that is what I can say... but I agree with most of the people here, qMail is not that easy to maintain, and it has a number of weird things it does... u can however secure it so it doesn't act as a spam relay and u can do many neat things with it, it has no security flaws that u can't fix (fairly easy), and in a few years that I administered qMail-systems in production (3 of these 50.000+ account servers) I never came across a serios bug that was not to be fixed (actually each time it was already done, but we weren't carefull enough before we had the problem :) so, I would say that qMail is quite good. I did not find it easy to work with it though, and I think that there *must* be smtg nicer out there, though I never tried anything else (no time..). If u have a bit time to play with things, try smtg else before qMail, and if it runs fine and u find it pleasant and failry easy to maintain, stick with it... qMail runs fine, but it is a bit complicated... If u find smtg else u like, stick with that, as u won't probably ever be a big fan of qMail, even though it runs fine :) ANdrei --- The problem with our world is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? ----- Original Message ----- From: ""Dag-Erling Smørgrav"" To: "Luciano Musacchio" Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 11:34 AM Subject: Re: postfix or qmail? Luciano Musacchio writes: > I've a simple question, postfix or qmail? :) Stay away from qmail. It has a number of serious problems including non-compliance with Internet standards, poor scalability and poor bounce processing model (the latter makes it ideal as a spam relay / amplifier, especially for email-borne viruses) Do you really want to trust your email to a piece of software that hasn't been updated in seven years, and is distributed under a license that explicitly forbids fixing its many flaws? > Other thing (perhaps, the one that I interest more your opinion), do > anyone know why MacOS X Server is using postfix instead of qmail? (i > mean, the latter is far more popular, right?) I doubt it. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - des@des.no _______________________________________________ freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"