From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:27:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF3416A422; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:27:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D6143DCA; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:17:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A57B36133A; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:16:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A763C5C907 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:00:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737995736B; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:59:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431C816A542; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:59:40 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7574716A4CE; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:58:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from users.altadena.net (users.altadena.net [207.151.161.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACEF43D3F; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:58:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pete@users.altadena.net) Received: from pete by users.altadena.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ClZHQ-000Jpq-3x; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:58:20 -0800 From: Pete Carah To: hardware@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050103205820.GA74545@users.altadena.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Subject: Adaptec USB2Xchange X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:27:58 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:58:20 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:27:58 -0000 I have reason to use a USB to SCSI adapter under FBSD. I have a USB2Xchange from Adaptec, but (as usual for adaptec) it requires a firmware load, which appears harder in usb than in PCI. Does anyone know how to do this? (Should we have a generic firmware loader similar in concept to the ndis converter?) A not-as-preferred alternative would be a PC card scsi unit; this won't work on the desktop computers, though. For my immediate application (streaming tape) I could tolerate a userland driver under ugen. For disks this wouldn't work without a more general kernel block-device structure (or a userland link back to the cam/xpt layer, analogous to the tunnel net driver, which couldn't be *too* hard and could be desirable). Kernel attach message is: ugen0: Adaptec product 0x2002, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 My kernel has ugen/umass/uhid/ums/ucom/uplcom/umodem compiled in, so this (which should show somewhere?) isn't being recognized. 1. Has anyone else tried this (or wanted to...)? 2. Absent a way to use this device, what would work (I know about slimscsi; it is less desirable since I can't use it on my desktop systems)? -- Pete _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:27:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A6C16A423; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:27:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9CB43DBB; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:17:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1058361328; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:16:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D1A5C985; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D132567E9; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:48:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F5316A571; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:47:46 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D8D16A4CE; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:25:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF8D43D46; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:25:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j041OqpR049651; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:54:53 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <20050103205820.GA74545@users.altadena.net> In-Reply-To: <20050103205820.GA74545@users.altadena.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3259999.9hXfszB5tT"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501041154.51256.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, Pete Carah , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec USB2Xchange X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:27:59 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:54:39 +1030 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:27:59 -0000 --nextPart3259999.9hXfszB5tT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 07:28, Pete Carah wrote: > I have reason to use a USB to SCSI adapter under FBSD. I have a > USB2Xchange from Adaptec, but (as usual for adaptec) it requires a firmwa= re > load, which appears harder in usb than in PCI. Does anyone know how to do > this? (Should we have a generic firmware loader similar in concept to the > ndis converter?) There is a USB firmware standard called DFU (Device Firmware Upgrade) which= =20 quite a nunmber of devices use (eg Atmel WiFi, Ti USB Audio, etc). I have a USB audio device that uses it but I haven't had much luck getting = the=20 USB stack to reprobe the device after it's been reprogrammed (I have to pul= l=20 the connector out enough that it disconnects the data lines but not enough = to=20 unpower it..) Unfortunatly it's hard to say if your device does DFU at all.. I would sugg= est=20 pulling it apart and trying to find data sheets on the chips in it. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart3259999.9hXfszB5tT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBB2fBj5ZPcIHs/zowRAg9CAJ92XfbRJR0t7/6EVmVjqn4IgexQvgCfY0QR 5Tf9DA1odYCILf26t2bTAPQ= =BYjV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3259999.9hXfszB5tT-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:28:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FE716A420; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:28:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2CC4400F; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:17:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 80B4C61334; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:16:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDBDE5C9C1 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:47:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5D0569E5; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 21:47:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81DC16A4D5; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 21:47:34 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8DF16A4CE; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 21:47:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE3243D1D; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 21:47:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [10.1.1.7]) j03LkVHo043455 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Mon, 3 Jan 2005 22:46:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j03LkBXX007687 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Jan 2005 22:46:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j03LkABF070396; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 22:46:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j03Lk9gP070395; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 22:46:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) From: Bernd Walter To: Pete Carah Message-ID: <20050103214607.GB64429@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20050103205820.GA74545@users.altadena.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050103205820.GA74545@users.altadena.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.2-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec USB2Xchange X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:28:39 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 22:46:08 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:28:39 -0000 On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 12:58:20PM -0800, Pete Carah wrote: > I have reason to use a USB to SCSI adapter under FBSD. I have a USB2Xchange > from Adaptec, but (as usual for adaptec) it requires a firmware load, which > appears harder in usb than in PCI. Does anyone know how to do this? (Should > we have a generic firmware loader similar in concept to the ndis converter?) > > A not-as-preferred alternative would be a PC card scsi unit; this won't > work on the desktop computers, though. > > For my immediate application (streaming tape) I could tolerate a userland > driver under ugen. For disks this wouldn't work without a more general > kernel block-device structure (or a userland link back to the cam/xpt layer, > analogous to the tunnel net driver, which couldn't be *too* hard and could > be desirable). > > Kernel attach message is: > ugen0: Adaptec product 0x2002, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 > > My kernel has ugen/umass/uhid/ums/ucom/uplcom/umodem compiled in, so > this (which should show somewhere?) isn't being recognized. As far as I know the Adaptec parts can do multiple addreses, which is not part of umass specification. They may use a vendor extended umass or completely different protocol. Whatever it is - the device doesn't offer itself as beeing umass. With vendor specs it should be simple to teach our umass driver about this special device, even if it really isn't umass. Also firmware uploading in USB is very simple if you have vendor specs. Without specs all you can do is sniff Windows data and guess. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de bernd@bwct.de info@bwct.de _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:28:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFE516A41F; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:28:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C918843DD9; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:17:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 448A16132A; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:16:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982DF5C9BB for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:01:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD0956164; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 22:01:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF96B16A4FC; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 22:01:40 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816C716A4CE; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 21:59:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0626343D1D; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 21:59:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j03M24Om010532; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 15:02:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <41D9BFDC.1050304@freebsd.org> From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ticso@cicely.de References: <20050103205820.GA74545@users.altadena.net> <20050103214607.GB64429@cicely12.cicely.de> In-Reply-To: <20050103214607.GB64429@cicely12.cicely.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, Pete Carah , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec USB2Xchange X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:28:44 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:57:48 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:28:44 -0000 Bernd Walter wrote: > On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 12:58:20PM -0800, Pete Carah wrote: > >>I have reason to use a USB to SCSI adapter under FBSD. I have a USB2Xchange >>from Adaptec, but (as usual for adaptec) it requires a firmware load, which >>appears harder in usb than in PCI. Does anyone know how to do this? (Should >>we have a generic firmware loader similar in concept to the ndis converter?) >> >>A not-as-preferred alternative would be a PC card scsi unit; this won't >>work on the desktop computers, though. >> >>For my immediate application (streaming tape) I could tolerate a userland >>driver under ugen. For disks this wouldn't work without a more general >>kernel block-device structure (or a userland link back to the cam/xpt layer, >>analogous to the tunnel net driver, which couldn't be *too* hard and could >>be desirable). >> >>Kernel attach message is: >>ugen0: Adaptec product 0x2002, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 >> >>My kernel has ugen/umass/uhid/ums/ucom/uplcom/umodem compiled in, so >>this (which should show somewhere?) isn't being recognized. > > > As far as I know the Adaptec parts can do multiple addreses, which is > not part of umass specification. > They may use a vendor extended umass or completely different protocol. > Whatever it is - the device doesn't offer itself as beeing umass. > With vendor specs it should be simple to teach our umass driver about > this special device, even if it really isn't umass. > Also firmware uploading in USB is very simple if you have vendor specs. > Without specs all you can do is sniff Windows data and guess. > Getting specs out of Adaptec is about as fun as digging through granite with a spoon. Most of the "Adaptec" products that are found on store shelves these days are just rebranded from other vendors, so it might be more fruitful to discover the OEM of this part and bother that vendor for specs. There doesn't appear to be a driver in the linux tree for this either, at least not for the Adaptec name of it. Scott _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 11:53:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D65116A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:53:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jiashiun@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DFC43D48 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:53:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jiashiun@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so514702rna for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 04:53:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JEQgb2Big5Y8Ythj0RwEndn/N4+rKo3bRI2RG/DUGzePR13Wzgva/OVFpm6Cr1tloK5VLF7ZSpHbWmnWz6ul3/5/I4Z7l7+dPaCfIESLTL2ym4Rgbg0AO7MaJZRuGR8NGQteRBO0XD9H/JUwCSEQdE65LWAlD0iYBCnAZjgSmZw= Received: by 10.38.98.60 with SMTP id v60mr2230061rnb; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 04:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.12.17 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 04:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1d6d20bc05070304532e9b1fb9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:53:48 +0800 From: Jia-Shiun Li To: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <42C587EC.7030203@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506290818.j5T8IELL002348@peedub.jennejohn.org> <42C3F72E.9070902@speakeasy.net> <8f55402905063018441217c95a@mail.gmail.com> <20050701015457.GC4460@dragon.NUXI.org> <42C5220B.1000203@crossflight.co.uk> <1d6d20bc050701065367a01e8b@mail.gmail.com> <20050701172139.GA25916@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <42C587EC.7030203@samsco.org> Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 X2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jia-Shiun Li List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 11:53:49 -0000 On 7/2/05, Scott Long wrote: > The Asus A8V-E series also does not work. Asus claims that it's a > limitation of the Via K8T890 chipset, which is highly unfortunate > since it's otherwise a good motherboard. Not sure whether to be > upset at Asus or Via here, but either way I guess both suck =3D-) That's part of the reason why I did not choose AMD. Although I wanted to build an x86-64 capable system and I have absolutely not doubt that AMD did a good job, how to choose motherboard was a big question to me. Especially being experienced with KT133A and VT62x2. So I decided to be chicken and choose (to me) safer Intel P4 531 and P5GD1 board. BTW Intel and AMD already decided to let all CPUs support x86-64(mostly for marketing purposes), including P4 5x1 series, Celeron D 3x1/3x6 series, and Sempron. Intel ones already arrived the market. So expect more traffics discussing it. Meanwhile the name AMD64 could be misleading to some people who did not really understand the differences. ;) Jia-Shiun. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 17:47:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB56F16A41C; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:47:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A478943D48; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:47:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.local.lan (unverified [24.119.122.41]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 24409429 for multiple; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 11:13:45 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:49:23 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: Jia-Shiun Li Message-ID: <20050703124923.437a0b95@vixen42.local.lan> In-Reply-To: <1d6d20bc05070304532e9b1fb9@mail.gmail.com> References: <200506290818.j5T8IELL002348@peedub.jennejohn.org> <42C3F72E.9070902@speakeasy.net> <8f55402905063018441217c95a@mail.gmail.com> <20050701015457.GC4460@dragon.NUXI.org> <42C5220B.1000203@crossflight.co.uk> <1d6d20bc050701065367a01e8b@mail.gmail.com> <20050701172139.GA25916@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <42C587EC.7030203@samsco.org> <1d6d20bc05070304532e9b1fb9@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.11 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 44, in=74, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.122.41 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Cc: Scott Long , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 X2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:47:47 -0000 On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:53:48 +0800 Jia-Shiun Li wrote: > On 7/2/05, Scott Long wrote: > > The Asus A8V-E series also does not work. Asus claims that it's a > > limitation of the Via K8T890 chipset, which is highly unfortunate > > since it's otherwise a good motherboard. Not sure whether to be > > upset at Asus or Via here, but either way I guess both suck =-) > > That's part of the reason why I did not choose AMD. Although I > wanted to build an x86-64 capable system and I have absolutely not > doubt that AMD did a good job, how to choose motherboard was a big > question to me. Especially being experienced with KT133A and > VT62x2. So I decided to be chicken and choose (to me) safer Intel > P4 531 and P5GD1 board. Playing it safe and not buying hardware with VIA or Sil chipsets works nicely. :) > BTW Intel and AMD already decided to let all CPUs support > x86-64(mostly for marketing purposes), including P4 5x1 series, > Celeron D 3x1/3x6 series, and Sempron. Intel ones already arrived > the market. So expect more traffics discussing it. Meanwhile the > name AMD64 could be misleading to some people who did not really > understand the differences. ;) From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 19:37:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55CA016A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:37:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@hausro.de) Received: from mail3.netbeat.de (mail3.netbeat.de [193.254.185.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A11C643D46 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:37:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@hausro.de) Received: (qmail 2447 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2005 19:37:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maximus) (85.186.64.88) by mail3.netbeat.de with SMTP; 3 Jul 2005 19:37:02 -0000 Message-ID: <002901c58006$aa9ecc60$6400a8c0@maximus> From: "ANdrei" To: References: <200506290818.j5T8IELL002348@peedub.jennejohn.org><42C3F72E.9070902@speakeasy.net><8f55402905063018441217c95a@mail.gmail.com><20050701015457.GC4460@dragon.NUXI.org><42C5220B.1000203@crossflight.co.uk><1d6d20bc050701065367a01e8b@mail.gmail.com><20050701172139.GA25916@odin.ac.hmc.edu><42C587EC.7030203@samsco.org><1d6d20bc05070304532e9b1fb9@mail.gmail.com> <20050703124923.437a0b95@vixen42.local.lan> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:10:52 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: Re: AMD64 X2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:37:09 -0000 I don't agree, SIL has done some nice chips... VIA isn't in my top, either, but SIL has made some nice chips in my opinion... and the support was ok last time I checked... though I used them only on Windoze (well, we have to do that sometimes for the sake of multimedia :) but hey, if I'm wrong, can anyone point me to what SIL has done wrong? besides some issues with HDD corruption, that were solved with new BIOSes, afaik in one case... ANdrei --- The problem with our world is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vulpes Velox" To: "Jia-Shiun Li" Cc: "Scott Long" ; ; Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 8:49 PM Subject: Re: AMD64 X2 > On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:53:48 +0800 > Jia-Shiun Li wrote: > >> On 7/2/05, Scott Long wrote: >> > The Asus A8V-E series also does not work. Asus claims that it's a >> > limitation of the Via K8T890 chipset, which is highly unfortunate >> > since it's otherwise a good motherboard. Not sure whether to be >> > upset at Asus or Via here, but either way I guess both suck =-) >> >> That's part of the reason why I did not choose AMD. Although I >> wanted to build an x86-64 capable system and I have absolutely not >> doubt that AMD did a good job, how to choose motherboard was a big >> question to me. Especially being experienced with KT133A and >> VT62x2. So I decided to be chicken and choose (to me) safer Intel >> P4 531 and P5GD1 board. > > Playing it safe and not buying hardware with VIA or Sil chipsets > works nicely. :) > >> BTW Intel and AMD already decided to let all CPUs support >> x86-64(mostly for marketing purposes), including P4 5x1 series, >> Celeron D 3x1/3x6 series, and Sempron. Intel ones already arrived >> the market. So expect more traffics discussing it. Meanwhile the >> name AMD64 could be misleading to some people who did not really >> understand the differences. ;) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 23:01:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA6216A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:01:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@LogicX.us) Received: from mail.logicx.net (facade.LogicX.net [209.190.17.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1AC43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:01:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@LogicX.us) Received: (qmail 95552 invoked by uid 89); 3 Jul 2005 23:00:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.18?) (LogicX@LogicX.us@68.82.97.77) by mail.logicx.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 3 Jul 2005 23:00:52 -0000 Message-ID: <42C86E44.7050808@LogicX.us> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:01:24 -0400 From: Mike Schroll Organization: LogicX Network Services User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: New D-Link DFE-530TX+ Chipset? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD@LogicX.us List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:01:17 -0000 I have a new dedicated box from a provider, running FreeBSD 5.4-AMD64, and they claim they've put a D-Link DFE-530TX+ card in the machine. It is not recognized in the generic kernel, and infact, pciconf -v -l shows: none4@pci2:3:0: class=0x020000 card=0x03011186 chip=0x03001186 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'D-Link System Inc' class = network subclass = ethernet This card value -- 0301 does not match what the card should be -- 1300, nor does it match any other D-link card known in FreeBSD. Is this potentially a new chipset/version of this card? or just an entirely different D-Link card that is not yet known and recognized. What can I do to try this out, or otherwise provide further information concerning this hardware to the proper people? Thanks -Mike Schroll -- Applied Networking System Administration Major Rochester Institute of Technology Rochester, NY Information Sciences and Technology Major Penn State University University Park, PA FreeBSD@LogicX.us AIM: L0g1cX http://MSchroll.com From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 04:31:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D8F16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 04:31:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhay@meraka.csir.co.za) Received: from zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za (zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8719C43D48 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 04:31:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhay@meraka.csir.co.za) Received: by zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za (Postfix, from userid 3973) id EC2DF22; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 06:31:27 +0200 (SAST) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 06:31:27 +0200 From: John Hay To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050705043127.GA44228@zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: multiple screens + keyboards + X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 04:31:32 -0000 Hi, Has anybody looked into multiple screens, mice and keyboards with X on a single machine running FreeBSD? So that more than one person can work simultaneously on it. We are thinking about using such a setup for a computer litteracy project in our rural areas. We have a student playing with it and he can get the different screens with different mice running one at a time. But we can't get them running simultaneously and can get different keyboards running. Any help and ideas welcome. :-) John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@meraka.csir.co.za / jhay@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 04:46:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C5516A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 04:46:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6888E43D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 04:46:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 24234 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2005 04:46:49 -0000 Received: from maxwell2.pacific.net.sg (203.120.90.192) by smtpgate2 with SMTP; 5 Jul 2005 04:46:49 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.122.16]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20050705044649.NCLK28012.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:46:49 +0800 Message-ID: <42CA10B7.1070209@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:46:47 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050514) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Hay References: <20050705043127.GA44228@zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za> In-Reply-To: <20050705043127.GA44228@zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multiple screens + keyboards + X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 04:46:53 -0000 Hi, John Hay wrote: > Hi, > > Has anybody looked into multiple screens, mice and keyboards with X on > a single machine running FreeBSD? So that more than one person can work > simultaneously on it. We are thinking about using such a setup for a > computer litteracy project in our rural areas. > > We have a student playing with it and he can get the different screens > with different mice running one at a time. But we can't get them > running simultaneously and can get different keyboards running. > > Any help and ideas welcome. :-) I have not seen more than one keyboard connected to a machine delivering the output to different screens. What we do is a bit different but results in the same. Just take older machines and use them as thin-clients. Every thin-client has one keyboard, one mouse and one screen. One server provides then the computing power, connectivity to the Internet, storage and all the other resources you need. As older machines are normally available for free, it should not be a real problem to use this kind of setup. Erich From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 06:00:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DDBA16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 06:00:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhay@meraka.csir.co.za) Received: from zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za (zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7285D43D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 06:00:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhay@meraka.csir.co.za) Received: by zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za (Postfix, from userid 3973) id 7D2A122; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:00:24 +0200 (SAST) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:00:24 +0200 From: John Hay To: Erich Dollansky Message-ID: <20050705060024.GA46355@zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za> References: <20050705043127.GA44228@zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za> <42CA10B7.1070209@pacific.net.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42CA10B7.1070209@pacific.net.sg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multiple screens + keyboards + X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 06:00:30 -0000 > > > >Has anybody looked into multiple screens, mice and keyboards with X on > >a single machine running FreeBSD? So that more than one person can work > >simultaneously on it. We are thinking about using such a setup for a > >computer litteracy project in our rural areas. > > > >We have a student playing with it and he can get the different screens > >with different mice running one at a time. But we can't get them > >running simultaneously and can get different keyboards running. > > > >Any help and ideas welcome. :-) > > I have not seen more than one keyboard connected to a machine delivering > the output to different screens. Well we have been using the HP441 (www.hp441.com) in our boxes (www.digitaldoorway.org.za), but they are pretty expensive and the bigger problem is HP is slow to respond to problems and the Mandarake they ship is getting old and so it is starting to be a pain to add stuff. > What we do is a bit different but results in the same. Just take older > machines and use them as thin-clients. Every thin-client has one > keyboard, one mouse and one screen. > > One server provides then the computing power, connectivity to the > Internet, storage and all the other resources you need. > > As older machines are normally available for free, it should not be a > real problem to use this kind of setup. That is definitely an option and I have mentioned it a few times to the powers that be already. Getting hold of decent old boxes are not so easy though. Down here people seem to use a computer until it really can only be used as a door-stop. :-/ Space constraints make 5 full sized computers a problem, so one idea I have been toying with, is to use the small mini- itx boards. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@meraka.csir.co.za / jhay@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 07:34:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4F816A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:34:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E01BC43D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:34:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 22053 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2005 07:34:02 -0000 Received: from maxwell6.pacific.net.sg (203.120.90.212) by smtpgate1 with SMTP; 5 Jul 2005 07:34:00 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.122.16]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20050705073359.LGDV1233.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:33:59 +0800 Message-ID: <42CA37E3.3060305@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:33:55 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050514) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Hay References: <20050705043127.GA44228@zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za> <42CA10B7.1070209@pacific.net.sg> <20050705060024.GA46355@zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za> In-Reply-To: <20050705060024.GA46355@zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multiple screens + keyboards + X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:34:05 -0000 Hi, John Hay wrote: > > Well we have been using the HP441 (www.hp441.com) in our boxes I have heard of such systems, but never saw them. > That is definitely an option and I have mentioned it a few times to the > powers that be already. Getting hold of decent old boxes are not so easy > though. Down here people seem to use a computer until it really can only > be used as a door-stop. :-/ Space constraints make 5 full sized computers > a problem, so one idea I have been toying with, is to use the small mini- > itx boards. > Yes, ITX is a possible solution. Take the ones without fans and boot them from Flash cards or the network. Erich From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 10:32:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F94C16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:32:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from daw@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from taverner.CS.Berkeley.EDU (taverner.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.168.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D1F43D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:32:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from daw@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from taverner.CS.Berkeley.EDU (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by taverner.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j65AWIUY012442 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 03:32:28 -0700 Received: (from daw@localhost) by taverner.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j65AWDh4012438 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 03:32:13 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 03:32:13 -0700 From: David_Wagner Message-Id: <200507051032.j65AWDh4012438@taverner.CS.Berkeley.EDU> User-Agent: Vacation/1.2.6 http://vacation.sourceforge.net To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: away from my mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:32:45 -0000 I am travelling June 26 - July 5. I will have email access on June 27, but probably not the rest of my travels. Your mail concerning "Re: Approved" will be read when I'm back. In an emergency, you may contact Liliana Gonzalez 510-642-8395 . Otherwise, I'll respond when I return. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 23:11:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B909116A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:11:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from darylXYZ@ci.com.au) Received: from mippet.ci.com.au (mippet.ci.com.au [192.65.182.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A54A43D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:11:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from darylXYZ@ci.com.au) Received: from mippet.ci.com.au (daryl@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mippet.ci.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1/CE041021/c+m+l) with ESMTP id j65NBJDD099436 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:11:20 +1000 (EST) Received: (from daryl@localhost) by mippet.ci.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j65NBJ9Z099433; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:11:19 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mippet.ci.com.au: daryl set sender to darylXYZ@ci.com.AU using -f Sender: daryl@ci.com.AU To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Daryl Sayers Date: 06 Jul 2005 09:11:19 +1000 Message-ID: Lines: 42 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Subject: Usb to serial problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:11:23 -0000 I had an Aten USB to Serial device attached to an old laptop running FreeBSD 4.7. I am now upgrading to much newer IBM thinkpad (A21m) :-) I have installed FreeBSD 4.10 onto this machine and am now trying to get the Aten to work. I have rebuilt the kernel with the extra devices: device ucom device uplcom and I can see the device in dmesg: usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ucom0: Prolific Technology Inc. USB-Serial Controller, rev 1.10/3.00, addr 2 Also the following command shows: # usbdevs -vd Controller /dev/usb0: addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 uhub0 port 1 addr 2: full speed, power 100 mA, config 1, USB-Serial Controller(0x2008), Prolific Technology Inc.(0x0557), rev 3.00 ucom0 I am able to connect to /dev/ucom using minicom and I can send data via the Aten to a remote computer. I am however unable to receive data at all. This same laptop has Windoze installed on a second partition and using hyperterm I am able to communicate in both directions. This means there is no problems with the usb port,cabling or the Aten device. This brings it down to a software issue. In the old days, this would have been an IRQ problem or similar but with USB I am at a loss. I did also try running the usbd by adding the 'usbd_enable="YES"' in /etc/rc.conf but this does not seem to have any effect on result. Any ideas would be appreciated.. -- Daryl Sayers To reply please remove the XYZ from the email address. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 01:06:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03BD516A41F for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:06:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from non_secure@yahoo.com) Received: from web53302.mail.yahoo.com (web53302.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 70A1D43D48 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:06:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from non_secure@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 84219 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jul 2005 01:06:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GG61LgwOaMne8VE65s0YWZQfj3s8SpyMccCdoXKdQ+h0uQxh7ZQSzfqtCzEck9ThDkoNWQsXyioZtsQEKdAI2OR8ticYqyIKux56576T4rirMqOXT7vRspbJZyI3uxT6ALGCqHZB0atW8ANmVAbzuQIzOqhfDbO6ikAQPjYgKFU= ; Message-ID: <20050706010619.84217.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.186.91.245] by web53302.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:06:19 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:06:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Schmoe To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: logitech mx700 mouse button disfunction under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 01:06:21 -0000 The logitech mx700 is a cordless 10-button mouse (3 buttons, two thumb buttons, scroll wheel up and down, two paging buttons, and one "app" button). While the mx500 mouse, that seems to be very closely related to the mx700, has been reported to work (scroll wheel and both thumb buttons function) under FreeBSD, and while the mx700 is working in the same fashion under linux, the mx700 _does not_ function under FreeBSD. Details: Using this configuration in your X/Xorg configuration file: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "Buttons" "7" Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7" EndSection along with these startup options for X/Xorg: /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5" /usr/X11R6/bin/imwheel -b "67" & and these settings in ~/.imwheelrc : ".*" None, Up, Alt_L|Left,1 None, Down, Alt_L|Right,1 "(null)" None, Up, Alt_L|Left,1 None, Down, Alt_L|Right,1 You will end up with the three standard buttons functioning, and the scrollwheel functioning (as buttons events 4 and 5). Further, the page up and down buttons will simply send double-4 and double-5 button events. However, the other three buttons (thumbs and app button) will _all send button event 5_. I have tried every conceivable combination of Zaxismapping, xmodmap settings, and with and without imwheel ... no matter what, the three final buttons (two thumbs and one app button) always produce the same button event. Even if you configure 9 or 10 buttons in your X config. Those three buttons will ALWAYS send the same button event. So what is the reason for this ? Why does the mx500 function and the mx700 does not ? More importantly, what is a strategy for getting to the bottom of this and fixing it ? If you look at the mailing list archives, there are many, many examples of people going through this same hell and just giving up. Comments ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 01:22:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923C016A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:22:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FB743D48 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:22:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with SMTP id j661Mgte067361; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:22:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: Daryl Sayers Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 21:23:26 -0400 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 205.211.164.50 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Usb to serial problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 01:22:54 -0000 On 06 Jul 2005 09:11:19 +1000, in sentex.lists.freebsd.hardware you wrote: > >I had an Aten USB to Serial device attached to an old laptop running >FreeBSD 4.7. I am now upgrading to much newer IBM thinkpad (A21m) :-) >I have installed FreeBSD 4.10 onto this machine and am now trying to >get the Aten to work. I have rebuilt the kernel with the extra devices: If possible, go to 5.4 instead. There are a lot of USB bug fixes and enhancements over the RELENG_4 branch. I have a similar USB device (same chipset) that works just fine using that driver. On the RELENG_4 branch, it would panic for me too often. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 mike@sentex.net, (http://www.tancsa.com) From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 06:29:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689C916A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:29:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from daryl@ci.com.au) Received: from mippet.ci.com.au (mippet.ci.com.au [192.65.182.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E674C43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:29:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from daryl@ci.com.au) Received: from mippet.ci.com.au (daryl@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mippet.ci.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1/CE041021/c+m+l) with ESMTP id j666TBME045035; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:29:11 +1000 (EST) Received: (from daryl@localhost) by mippet.ci.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j666TAGU045032; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:29:10 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:29:10 +1000 (EST) From: Daryl Sayers Message-Id: <200507060629.j666TAGU045032@mippet.ci.com.au> To: mike@sentex.net In-reply-to: (message from Mike Tancsa on Tue, 05 Jul 2005 21:23:26 -0400) References: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Usb to serial problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 06:29:14 -0000 >>>>> "Mike" == Mike Tancsa writes: > On 06 Jul 2005 09:11:19 +1000, in sentex.lists.freebsd.hardware you > wrote: >> >> I had an Aten USB to Serial device attached to an old laptop running >> FreeBSD 4.7. I am now upgrading to much newer IBM thinkpad (A21m) :-) >> I have installed FreeBSD 4.10 onto this machine and am now trying to >> get the Aten to work. I have rebuilt the kernel with the extra devices: > If possible, go to 5.4 instead. There are a lot of USB bug fixes and > enhancements over the RELENG_4 branch. I have a similar USB device > (same chipset) that works just fine using that driver. On the > RELENG_4 branch, it would panic for me too often. Thanks for the idea but I have to stick with 4.X series for other reasons. I had never experienced problems on my 4.7 install on a Compaq Armarda 1500c. In fact I had 2 of these devices attached via a Aten UH-102 hub and everything chugged along great. I took out the hub when I started getting problems. Maybe I should install 4.7 on my new laptop and test. -- Daryl Sayers Direct: (02) 8425 5507 Corinthian Engineering Ph: (02) 9906 4333 Suite 19, 401 Pacific Hwy Fax: (02) 9906 1556 Artarmon, NSW, 2064 email: daryl@ci.com.au Australia www: http://www.ci.com.au From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 03:51:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4CA16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 03:51:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from SP373@student.apu.ac.uk) Received: from mailhub-out.apu.ac.uk (mailhub-out.apu.ac.uk [193.63.55.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E577743D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 03:51:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from SP373@student.apu.ac.uk) Received: from boswell.cam.apu.ac.uk ([193.63.55.56]:49512) by mailhub.anglia.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DqMLc-0005SU-K2 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:42:44 +0100 Received: from cam-netmail.netware.anglia.ac.uk ([194.83.45.141.36718] helo=student.apu.ac.uk) by boswell.cam.apu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 1DqMLW-00058D-00 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:42:38 +0100 Received: from SP373 [213.16.172.3] by student.apu.ac.uk with NetMail ModWeb Module; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:42:38 +0100 From: "SPYRIDON PAPADOPOULOS" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:42:38 +0100 X-Mailer: NetMail ModWeb Module X-Sender: SP373 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1120704158.8b9d0f20SP373@student.apu.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-APU-MailScanner-Info: see http://www.apu.ac.uk/mail-problems X-APU-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-APU-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.906, required 6, autolearn=not spam, APU_FROM_AC_UK -4.00, AWL 0.69, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-APU-MailScanner-From: sp373@student.apu.ac.uk X-APU-MailFilter: message scanned Subject: 3com V.90 mini-pci modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: SP373@student.apu.ac.uk List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:51:20 -0000 Hi, I have a Dell Latitude c810 laptop which is using a 3com mini-pci combo (mo= dem/ethernet). I am using properly the ethernet card but cannot use the modem. The output from pciconf -lv shows me the device. The output is: None@pci2:6:1: ..... vendor: 3com Corp. Networking Division device: 3c556 V.90 mini-pci modem. class: Simple comms The only thing I found is some people's drivers in the internet but they al= l seem to be made for Linux. Did anyone use any of these drivers? Any sug= gestion or recommendation that may help would be appreciated. I am using = Freebsd 5.4. Thank you in advance Spiros P. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 01:37:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2CC16A420 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 01:37:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C4A43D53 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 01:37:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with SMTP id j681b6na059984; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:37:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: "SPYRIDON PAPADOPOULOS" Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:37:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1120704158.8b9d0f20SP373@student.apu.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <1120704158.8b9d0f20SP373@student.apu.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 205.211.164.50 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3com V.90 mini-pci modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 01:37:11 -0000 On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:42:38 +0100, in sentex.lists.freebsd.hardware you wrote: >Hi, > >I have a Dell Latitude c810 laptop which is using a 3com mini-pci combo = (modem/ethernet).=20 > >I am using properly the ethernet card but cannot use the modem.=20 >The output from pciconf -lv shows me the device.=20 >The output is: > >None@pci2:6:1: ..... >vendor: 3com Corp. Networking Division >device: 3c556 V.90 mini-pci modem. >class: Simple comms > >The only thing I found is some people's drivers in the internet but they= all seem to be made for Linux. Did anyone use any of these drivers? Any = suggestion or recommendation that may help would be appreciated. I am = using Freebsd 5.4. > It *might* work with the PUC driver. What does the output of pciconf -vl show ? ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 mike@sentex.net, (http://www.tancsa.com) From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 13:01:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E98416A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:01:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iwan@msfu.ru) Received: from ns2.msfu.ru (ns2.msfu.ru [193.233.62.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C8943D45 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:01:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iwan@msfu.ru) Received: from drweb by ns2.msfu.ru with drweb-scanned (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1DqsTe-0006e0-0K for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:01:10 +0400 Received: from icserv.mgul.ac.ru ([193.233.62.4]) by ns2.msfu.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1DqsTd-0006dt-Tn for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:01:09 +0400 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:01:09 +0400 From: "Iwan I. Giesbrecht" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0) Professional Organization: MSFU X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1091285730.20050708170109@msfu.ru> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Which mainboard for FreeBSD 5.4 you recomend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Iwan I. Giesbrecht" List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:01:16 -0000 Hi, freebsd-hardware! Anybody may reccomend us the modern mother board with support FreeBSD 5.4 and following available equipment: 1. Dual Intel Xeon 2,8 MHz 2. HDD: two SCSI & one IDE 3. PCI-controler Adaptec ZCR-IOP SCSI RAID 2010S (it is desirable) -- Best regards, Iwan mailto:iwan@msfu.ru http://iwan.msfu.ru mailto:webmaster@msfu.ru http://www.msfu.ru