From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 23 08:23:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00D216A41F for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 08:23:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mpb@melitacable.com) Received: from krypton2.melitacable.com (smtp.onvol.net [212.56.128.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3787643D45 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 08:23:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mpb@melitacable.com) Received: from rhino (d39.melitacable.com [212.56.137.39] (may be forged)) by krypton2.melitacable.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j9N8MZZW004518 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:22:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <002801c5d7ab$1607da40$278938d4@rhino> From: "Mark Pace Balzan" To: Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:23:45 +0200 Organization: Melita Cable plc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: 5.4 and raid on SC420 cerc sata2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mark Pace Balzan List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 08:23:48 -0000 Hello all, Although this seems faq, Ive googled around looking for any solutions to having a working raid1 solution on a dell SC420 with CERC SATA2 and freebsd 5.4, but I havent found any solutions. Since many people seem to be asking this question, and the hardware is listed as supported, Im curious to know if anyone has actually managed to get this to work. Technically the freebsd hardware compatibility lists the 'Cerc Sata2' while Dell states 'Cerc Sata 2s'. dont know if the 's' makes all the difference here ! Am inclined on trying 6.0-rc1 just to check if there is any difference, but it just too new to run for production. thanks in advance for any pointers or illumination on what im doing wrong. cheers Mark From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 25 09:12:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E58516A41F for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:12:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from calo_gianfranco@inwind.it) Received: from smtp7.libero.it (smtp7.libero.it [193.70.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2031043D48 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:12:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from calo_gianfranco@inwind.it) Received: from localhost (172.16.1.81) by smtp7.libero.it (7.0.027-DD01) id 431C36B403D497B9 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:12:57 +0200 Received: from smtp2.libero.it ([172.16.1.97]) by localhost (asav22.libero.it [193.70.193.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03223-03 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:12:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rainbow (adsl-ull-36-67.44-151.net24.it [151.44.67.36]) by smtp2.libero.it (Postfix) with SMTP id C6388A8C0E for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:12:54 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <000501c5d944$493ec0a0$0a00000a@rainbow> From: "Rainbow" To: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:12:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Scanned: with antispam and antivirus automated system at libero.it Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: USB 256MB storage device X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:12:58 -0000 In the last days my Sony MicroVault "USB Mass storage device" 256 MB has = become uninstallable on whatever PC. Under Win XP Peripheral Manager = it's "seen" as a generic "Other Peripheral - Security Device" (???). = What is it ? How can I recover data on the removable disk? Thanks for your help. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 25 12:46:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E3F16A420 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:46:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girgen@FreeBSD.org) Received: from rambutan.pingpong.net (81.milagro.bahnhof.net [195.178.168.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF6043D55 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:46:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girgen@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rambutan.pingpong.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9PCkpTc088409 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:46:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from girgen@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:46:51 +0200 From: Palle Girgensohn To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <8B7CFEAEC6605866DCAAF092@rambutan.pingpong.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: ida problems, one disk broken = system very slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:46:54 -0000 Hi! A customer has a machine with four disks in RAID 10 using the ida(8) controller on FreeBSD-4.11. Now one disk is broken. I have some questions: 1. How can I detect that a disk in a raid cluster is broken? It seems natural to me that the raid driver would log info about a broken disk, but I have not seen this happen with any raid controller driver. 2. The system is extremely slow and hardly usable right now. The customer are still waiting for a replacement disk. Is there any way to get the system to just ignore the broken disk instead of trying to use it and fail. I get thousands of "ida0: soft error" in messages log. If the system would realize that it had problems with the disk, and ignore them, perhaps it wouldn't become unsable, 3. Will the array rebuild automatically once they insert the new disk? /Palle From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 25 19:01:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C34B16A41F for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:01:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail17.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail17.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8566C43D80 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:01:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (c220-239-19-236.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.19.236]) by mail17.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9PJ1IiU027426 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 05:01:18 +1000 Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (localhost.alcatel.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j9PJ1IHh045981 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 05:01:18 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au) Received: (from pjeremy@localhost) by cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id j9PJ1IMM045980 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 05:01:18 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 05:01:17 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051025190117.GA45962@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc Subject: PIPS printers on -current X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:01:36 -0000 I just bought an Epson CX3500 on the grounds that it was supported by PIPS (specifically ports/print/pips-scx3500_3600s). Whilst the printer probes, I don't seem able to print to it and the GUI claims the printer is inaccessible. It attaches as: ulpt0: EPSON USB MFP, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2, iclass 255/255 ulpt0: using bi-directional mode Has anyone else used either this particular printer or the PIPS driver in general? -- Peter Jeremy From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 25 19:18:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D52E16A41F for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:18:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ederdm@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9CA43D6D for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:18:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ederdm@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t4so1063946wxc for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:18:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=CYJpoRpS+OIUGjEOKU5nUWc3lkcSFuZrNzOexh7MF10gswHbjaAYXf5Q+eOgZdSptelqpNcycS3L1Cc8i5qgKmMt0r0PqGF6k7WQqK//H07p8ST85tEpwUPLqpXRxoCbNBAX+9+XVkK7bfZYTDv7PN7g/J9LEG6BZoC47z4pDcE= Received: by 10.70.17.17 with SMTP id 17mr23842wxq; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.97.17 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b16dec60510251218q78749b1du@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:18:42 +0000 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C9der_de_Mattos?= To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Problem with Marvell 88E8053 Yukon PCI-E Gigabit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:18:44 -0000 I have a problem with Marvel 88E8053 Yukon PCI-E Gigabit on FreeBSD. It isn't recognized for sk module e doesn't work on 5.4 or 6.0 the pciconf -vl command results: ######################################################################### none2@pci3:0:0: class=3D0x020000 card=3D0x058c1462 chip=3D0x436211ab rev=3D= 0x15 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Ltd)' device =3D '88E8053 Yukon PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (copper)' class =3D network subclass =3D ethernet ######################################################################### This "nic" is onboard on a MSI k8n neo4(the nvidia nForce4 Ethernet Controller) work only on 6.0, but not on 5.4 Can somebody help me? =C9der From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 26 13:41:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E3216A41F; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:41:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mdodd@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [70.88.158.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA7943D48; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:41:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mdodd@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (winter@sasami.jurai.net [70.88.158.93]) by sasami.jurai.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9QDfYY3095396; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:41:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mdodd@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:41:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-X-Sender: winter@sasami.jurai.net To: Palle Girgensohn In-Reply-To: <8B7CFEAEC6605866DCAAF092@rambutan.pingpong.net> Message-ID: <20051026093814.U609@sasami.jurai.net> References: <8B7CFEAEC6605866DCAAF092@rambutan.pingpong.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (sasami.jurai.net [70.88.158.93]); Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:41:39 -0400 (EDT) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ida problems, one disk broken = system very slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:41:41 -0000 On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > A customer has a machine with four disks in RAID 10 using the ida(8) > controller on FreeBSD-4.11. ftp://ftp.jurai.net/users/winter/idacontrol.tar would solve a few of your problems on 5.x or better but getting it to work on 4.x requires patching and recompiling. > Now one disk is broken. I have some questions: > > 1. How can I detect that a disk in a raid cluster is broken? It seems > natural to me that the raid driver would log info about a broken disk, > but I have not seen this happen with any raid controller driver. Most array drivers have a userland utility that allows inspection of array status. The utility for ida(4) isn't in the base system yet. > 2. The system is extremely slow and hardly usable right now. The > customer are still waiting for a replacement disk. Is there any way to > get the system to just ignore the broken disk instead of trying to use > it and fail. I get thousands of "ida0: soft error" in messages log. If > the system would realize that it had problems with the disk, and ignore > them, perhaps it wouldn't become unsable, Well, you could rate-limit the error messages, or comment out the message entirely. > 3. Will the array rebuild automatically once they insert the new disk? Depends on the BIOS setting. -- Lord, wheresoever this rifle goest, guide my hands upon it. Let a shot never be fired in anger or error. Bless it to your righteous service. In your mercy, Thine is the kingdom Amen. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 26 14:05:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C8116A424; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:05:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girgen@FreeBSD.org) Received: from rambutan.pingpong.net (81.milagro.bahnhof.net [195.178.168.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B806343D4C; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:05:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girgen@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rambutan.pingpong.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9QE5dMj023951; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:05:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from girgen@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:05:39 +0200 From: Palle Girgensohn To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Message-ID: <66AA0695B4793976B82E0A75@rambutan.pingpong.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; FORMAT=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ida problems, one disk broken = system very slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:05:41 -0000 --On onsdag, oktober 26, 2005 09.41.34 -0400 "Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: > On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Palle Girgensohn wrote: >> A customer has a machine with four disks in RAID 10 using the ida(8) >> controller on FreeBSD-4.11. > > ftp://ftp.jurai.net/users/winter/idacontrol.tar would solve a few of your > problems on 5.x or better but getting it to work on 4.x requires patching > and recompiling. What kind of patching is required for 4.x? Any ideas or pointers? >> Now one disk is broken. I have some questions: >> >> 1. How can I detect that a disk in a raid cluster is broken? It seems >> natural to me that the raid driver would log info about a broken disk, >> but I have not seen this happen with any raid controller driver. > > Most array drivers have a userland utility that allows inspection of > array status. The utility for ida(4) isn't in the base system yet. Oh. A port would be great. :-) Any ideas on something similar for the ciss(4) controller? >> 2. The system is extremely slow and hardly usable right now. The >> customer are still waiting for a replacement disk. Is there any way to >> get the system to just ignore the broken disk instead of trying to use >> it and fail. I get thousands of "ida0: soft error" in messages log. If >> the system would realize that it had problems with the disk, and ignore >> them, perhaps it wouldn't become unsable, > > Well, you could rate-limit the error messages, or comment out the message > entirely. You mean from /etc/syslog? That is not the problem, it seems to be some kind of timeout for every error that is the problem, I'm not sure. CPU runs at 100% constantly, anyway, but mostly running postgresql and java, not syslogd. > >> 3. Will the array rebuild automatically once they insert the new disk? > > Depends on the BIOS setting. OK, thanks. /Palle > > -- > Lord, wheresoever this rifle goest, guide my hands upon it. > Let a shot never be fired in anger or error. > Bless it to your righteous service. > In your mercy, Thine is the kingdom Amen. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 27 09:49:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C2716A41F for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:49:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from V.Konrad@lse.ac.uk) Received: from exic6.lse.ac.uk (exic6.lse.ac.uk [158.143.217.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BC343D49 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:49:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from V.Konrad@lse.ac.uk) Received: from ExF1.lse.ac.uk ([158.143.216.11]) by exic6.lse.ac.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 27 Oct 2005 10:49:23 +0100 Received: exchange.lse.ac.uk 158.143.216.11 from 158.143.216.102 158.143.216.102 via HTTP with MS-WebStorage 6.0.6249 Received: 158.143.216.102 158.143.216.102 from 158.143.201.41 158.143.201.41 via HTTP with MS-WebStorage 6.0.6249 Received: from whirpool.lse.ac.uk by exchange.lse.ac.uk; 27 Oct 2005 10:48:46 +0100 From: Vladimir Konrad To: Brooks Davis In-Reply-To: <20051017180519.GA15097@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <1129279679.1317.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <003b01c5d0a3$a6250da0$0200a8c0@bennypc> <1129283233.1315.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20051014091016.J71298@kerplunk.tbe.net> <20051017180519.GA15097@odin.ac.hmc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 10:48:46 +0100 Message-Id: <1130406526.1322.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2005 09:49:23.0692 (UTC) FILETIME=[B60CEAC0:01C5DADB] Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sil3114 versus sil3114a X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:49:26 -0000 > You're confusing the 3114 with the 3112. I don't recall any 3114 > issues. They are entierly different beasts. The big problem here is > that the 3112 is "value" hardware where apparent functionality under > Windows at the lowest possible price is far more important than actually > writing your bits to the disk correctly so people keep building cards > around cheap, bad hardware. :( thank you for the clarification. vlad From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 05:18:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DC216A41F; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 05:18:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi@blue.virtual-estates.net) Received: from blue.virtual-estates.net (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B88443D55; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 05:18:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi@blue.virtual-estates.net) Received: from blue.virtual-estates.net (blue [127.0.0.1]) by blue.virtual-estates.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9S5I3Y6025431 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:18:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@blue.virtual-estates.net) Received: (from mi@localhost) by blue.virtual-estates.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9S5I3oQ025430; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:18:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) From: "Mikhail T." Message-Id: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> To: hardware@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:18:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 05:18:05 -0000 Hi! I've got a new Hitachi drive with 16Mb of cache: ad8: 476940MB at ata4-master SATA150 and am trying to use it to store backups online. Unfortunately, writing to the disk is painfully slow (by today's standards) -- it can barely keep 7Mb/second and my other (SCSI) disks run circles around it. I tried to just cp a huge file from a SCSI disk to this one -- without any other activity. 7Mb/second is the best it could do :-( For bulk writing, undisturbed by other access, I'd expect at least 30Mb/sec... Is it the drive, the controller: atapci1: port 0xac00-0xac07,0xa480-0xa483,0xa400-0xa407,0xa080-0xa083,0xa000-0xa00f mem 0xbe6fbc00-0xbe6fbfff irq 25 at device 5.0 on pci3 the driver (6.0/amd64), or a misconfiguration of some sort? According to smartctl, the drive runs at 56C during the copying. Its idle temperature seems to be 54C. Thanks for any hints! -mi From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 07:02:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743A616A420; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:02:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from mail.localelinks.com (web.localelinks.com [65.170.254.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89FD43D46; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:02:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from mortis.over-yonder.net (adsl-152-91-239.jan.bellsouth.net [70.152.91.239]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.localelinks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1BB2A; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 02:02:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mortis.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 1DC1320F67; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 02:02:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 02:02:37 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: "Mikhail T." Message-ID: <20051028070237.GB68758@over-yonder.net> References: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i-fullermd.2 Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org, hardware@FreeBSD.org, sos@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Very slow writing to SATA disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:02:44 -0000 On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 01:18:03AM -0400 I heard the voice of Mikhail T., and lo! it spake thus: > > According to smartctl, the drive runs at 56C during the copying. Its > idle temperature seems to be 54C. That sounds a little high to me. Smartctl has been weird lately, and it only shows temp on one of my drives, but it (7200RPM 9gig SCSI) is showing 32C. The higher density probably burns a little more power, but half again the temperature? -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 09:49:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12E916A41F; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:49:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE12043D5D; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:49:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (c220-239-19-236.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.19.236]) by mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9S9mjrv020513 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:48:51 +1000 Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (localhost.alcatel.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j9S9miHh050120; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:48:44 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au) Received: (from pjeremy@localhost) by cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id j9S9mikL050119; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:48:44 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:48:44 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: "Mikhail T." Message-ID: <20051028094844.GU39882@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> References: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org, sos@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very slow writing to SATA disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:49:15 -0000 On Fri, 2005-Oct-28 01:18:03 -0400, Mikhail T. wrote: >I've got a new Hitachi drive with 16Mb of cache: > > ad8: 476940MB at ata4-master SATA150 > >and am trying to use it to store backups online. Unfortunately, writing >to the disk is painfully slow (by today's standards) -- it can barely >keep 7Mb/second and my other (SCSI) disks run circles around it. If this drive doesn't support tagged-queueing, is the write cache disabled? I get that sort of performance from a (PATA) disk with the cache disabled (hw.ata.wc="0" in loader.conf) >According to smartctl, the drive runs at 56C during the copying. Its >idle temperature seems to be 54C. I'd double-check that (eg with a finger). If the drive really is running at 56°C, it won't last very long. -- Peter Jeremy From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 09:55:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F371816A41F; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:55:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ray@redshift.com) Received: from mail.quickmeet.com (quickmeet.com [216.228.17.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CD743D45; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:55:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ray@redshift.com) Received: from workstation (workstation [192.168.20.250]) by mail.quickmeet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A8AF217032; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 02:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20051028025532.00a66e90@pop.redshift.com> X-Mailer: na X-Sender: redshift.com Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 02:55:32 -0700 To: Peter Jeremy , "Mikhail T." From: ray@redshift.com In-Reply-To: <20051028094844.GU39882@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> References: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org, sos@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very slow writing to SATA disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:55:28 -0000 At 07:48 PM 10/28/2005 +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: | On Fri, 2005-Oct-28 01:18:03 -0400, Mikhail T. wrote: | >I've got a new Hitachi drive with 16Mb of cache: | > | > ad8: 476940MB at ata4-master SATA150 | > | >and am trying to use it to store backups online. Unfortunately, writing | >to the disk is painfully slow (by today's standards) -- it can barely | >keep 7Mb/second and my other (SCSI) disks run circles around it. | | If this drive doesn't support tagged-queueing, is the write cache | disabled? I get that sort of performance from a (PATA) disk with | the cache disabled (hw.ata.wc="0" in loader.conf) | | >According to smartctl, the drive runs at 56C during the copying. Its | >idle temperature seems to be 54C. | | I'd double-check that (eg with a finger). If the drive really is | running at 56°C, it won't last very long. | | -- | Peter Jeremy I just checked the temp on my workstation for comparison. It's running two SATA drives (74GB Raptors) and the temp on those drives is 30C/86F. Like Peter says, at 133F, I don't think they would last very long, not to mention you'd probably smell something hot/burning. Ray From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 16:45:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB2816A41F; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:45:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from blue.virtual-estates.net (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323BE43D45; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:45:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from corbulon.video-collage.com (static-151-204-231-237.bos.east.verizon.net [151.204.231.237]) by blue.virtual-estates.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9SGjgPW074130 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:45:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mteterin.us.murex.com (195-11.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.195.11]) by corbulon.video-collage.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9SGjaho003308 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:45:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mteterin.us.murex.com (mteterin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mteterin.us.murex.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9SGjUg4015645; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:45:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by mteterin.us.murex.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j9SGjSwY015644; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:45:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mteterin.us.murex.com: mteterin set sender to mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com using -f From: Mikhail Teterin Organization: Virtual Estates, Inc. To: Peter Jeremy Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:45:27 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> <20051028094844.GU39882@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20051028094844.GU39882@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510281245.28314.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV devel-20050525/1149/Thu Oct 27 16:20:09 2005 on corbulon.video-collage.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org, sos@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very slow writing to SATA disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:45:48 -0000 > If this drive doesn't support tagged-queueing, is the write cache > disabled?  I get that sort of performance from a (PATA) disk with > the cache disabled (hw.ata.wc="0" in loader.conf) No, just checked -- the hw.ata.wc is set to 1. Is there anything else to look at? > >According to smartctl, the drive runs at 56C during the copying. Its > >idle temperature seems to be 54C. > I'd double-check that (eg with a finger).  If the drive really is > running at 56°C, it won't last very long. It sure feels hot to the touch, but nothing is burning, of course (freshly poured tee is near 100C and never ignites the paper cup). Do you think, the high temperature explains the poor write performance? The drive still reads at tens of Mb per second... According to http://www.spacecentersystems.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/293088 this model's 'Ambient Temperature' spec is 5 to 55C... I'd like to be able to turn the drive off between backups, but sysutils/ataidle is broken on 6.0 (Soren?). Thanks! -mi From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 18:09:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8FB16A41F for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:09:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from suporte@wahtec.com.br) Received: from galois.wahtec.com.br (galois.wahtec.com.br [200.96.65.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DFA43D48 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:09:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from suporte@wahtec.com.br) Received: (qmail 84426 invoked by uid 98); 28 Oct 2005 18:10:05 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by brasil.intranet (envelope-from , uid 1024) with qmail-scanner-1.24 (f-prot: 4.4.7/3.14.13. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.105456 secs); 28 Oct 2005 18:10:05 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: suporte@wahtec.com.br via brasil.intranet X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.24 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.105456 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO buddyguy) (arisjr@unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 28 Oct 2005 18:10:05 -0000 From: suporte@wahtec.com.br To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:09:42 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <8b16dec60510251218q78749b1du@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8b16dec60510251218q78749b1du@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510281809.42345.suporte@wahtec.com.br> Subject: Re: Problem with Marvell 88E8053 Yukon PCI-E Gigabit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:09:30 -0000 Download the driver from www.marvell.com It's a package that you install with pkg_add and it copies a LKM (if_myk.ko= )=20 to /boot/kernel. After that, you just need to load it.=20 It works fine for me (5.4). cheers, =2D-aristeu Em =C9der de Mattos escreveu: > I have a problem with Marvel 88E8053 Yukon PCI-E Gigabit on FreeBSD. > It isn't recognized for sk module e doesn't work on 5.4 or 6.0 > the pciconf -vl command results: > ######################################################################### > none2@pci3:0:0: class=3D0x020000 card=3D0x058c1462 chip=3D0x436211ab rev= =3D0x15 > hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology L= td)' > device =3D '88E8053 Yukon PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (copper)' c= lass > =3D network > subclass =3D ethernet > ######################################################################### > This "nic" is onboard on a MSI k8n neo4(the nvidia nForce4 Ethernet > Controller) work only on 6.0, but not on 5.4 > Can somebody help me? > > =C9der > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 18:11:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7169916A420 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:11:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jinmtb@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D62543D49 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:11:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jinmtb@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 13692 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2005 18:11:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.10?) (jinmtb@sbcglobal.net@68.127.176.112 with plain) by smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 2005 18:11:27 -0000 Message-ID: <43626A15.7040002@sbcglobal.net> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:12:37 -0700 From: Jin Guojun User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mikhail Teterin References: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> <20051028094844.GU39882@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> <200510281245.28314.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> In-Reply-To: <200510281245.28314.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Peter Jeremy , hackers@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org, sos@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very slow writing to SATA disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: j_guojun@lbl.gov List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:11:30 -0000 Mikhail Teterin wrote: >>>idle temperature seems to be 54C. >>> >>> > According to smartctl, the drive runs at 56C during the copying. Its > > > > >>I'd double-check that (eg with a finger). If the drive really is >>running at 56°C, it won't last very long. >> >> > >It sure feels hot to the touch, but nothing is burning, of course (freshly >poured tee is near 100C and never ignites the paper cup). > >Do you think, the high temperature explains the poor write performance? The >drive still reads at tens of Mb per second... According to > >http://www.spacecentersystems.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/293088 > >this model's 'Ambient Temperature' spec is 5 to 55C... > > Generally, the temperature is not directly affecting the performance till the mechanical problem occurred due to the temperature. A few types of hard drives are manufactured with higher temperature spec., however, those drives are usually broken in 3-6 months (continuously run). Otherwise, the higher temperature is due to some mechanical problem which may slow down the performance. In your case, it seems to me that your drive temperature is at or above the upper bound that could indicate a mechanical problem. Check to see if the reading speed of this drive is normal, then, this won't be the case for now. But keep in mind, if this drive always operates at this temperature, it will not last long. The better temperature for electronic components is below 39C, and not more than 45C~50C. So, 56C can gradually damage the mechanical as well as the electronic components. -Jin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 20:48:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985E916A41F; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:48:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75E043D49; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:48:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (c220-239-19-236.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.19.236]) by mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9SKm4Zn003819 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 29 Oct 2005 06:48:07 +1000 Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (localhost.alcatel.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j9SKm4Hh053641; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 06:48:04 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au) Received: (from pjeremy@localhost) by cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id j9SKm37K053640; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 06:48:03 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 06:48:03 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Mikhail Teterin Message-ID: <20051028204803.GW39882@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> References: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> <20051028094844.GU39882@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> <200510281245.28314.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200510281245.28314.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org, sos@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very slow writing to SATA disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:48:20 -0000 On Fri, 2005-Oct-28 12:45:27 -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: >No, just checked -- the hw.ata.wc is set to 1. Is there anything else to look >at? That exhausts my ideas, sorry. Sören might be able to suggest something. >> >According to smartctl, the drive runs at 56C during the copying. Its >> >idle temperature seems to be 54C. >It sure feels hot to the touch, but nothing is burning, A rule-of-thumb is that you can hold your finger on something for 4 seconds then it is 45°C (or less). >this model's 'Ambient Temperature' spec is 5 to 55C... It's unlikely to affect I/O performance (though it may increase the number of thermal re-calibrations) but it will definitely shorten the drive life. -- Peter Jeremy From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 21:35:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D93B16A41F; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:35:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spider.deepcore.dk (cpe.atm2-0-53484.0x50a6c9a6.abnxx9.customer.tele.dk [80.166.201.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769AF43D46; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:35:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from [194.192.25.136] (mac.deepcore.dk [194.192.25.136]) by spider.deepcore.dk (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9SLY2il023959; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:34:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.ORG) In-Reply-To: <20051028204803.GW39882@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> References: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> <20051028094844.GU39882@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> <200510281245.28314.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <20051028204803.GW39882@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:35:02 +0200 To: Peter Jeremy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-mail-scanned: by DeepCore Virus & Spam killer v1.12 Cc: Mikhail Teterin , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Very slow writing to SATA disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:35:19 -0000 On 28/10/2005, at 22:48, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On Fri, 2005-Oct-28 12:45:27 -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > >> No, just checked -- the hw.ata.wc is set to 1. Is there anything =20 >> else to look >> at? > That exhausts my ideas, sorry. S=F6ren might be able to suggest =20 > something. Not really, however I have no experience with Hitachi drives, I =20 havn't trusted that line of drives since their name was IBM Deathstar =20= DTLA series :/ >>>> According to smartctl, the drive runs at 56C during the copying. =20= >>>> Its >>>> idle temperature seems to be 54C. >>>> >> It sure feels hot to the touch, but nothing is burning, > > A rule-of-thumb is that you can hold your finger on something for 4 > seconds then it is 45=B0C (or less). > >> this model's 'Ambient Temperature' spec is 5 to 55C... > > It's unlikely to affect I/O performance (though it may increase the > number of thermal re-calibrations) but it will definitely shorten the > drive life. Indeed, 55C is way to high for 24/7 usage, and it might be that the =20 drive is choking on it and barely is able to compensate.. What does SMART say ? any unusual like high correction rates or =20 anything ? S=F8ren Schmidt sos@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 21:46:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECBC16A41F; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:46:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from blue.virtual-estates.net (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780A343D45; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:46:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from corbulon.video-collage.com (static-151-204-231-237.bos.east.verizon.net [151.204.231.237]) by blue.virtual-estates.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9SLjufa075369 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:46:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mteterin.us.murex.com (195-11.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.195.11]) by corbulon.video-collage.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9SLjoE1006646 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:45:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mteterin.us.murex.com (mteterin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mteterin.us.murex.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9SLjjNJ022068; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:45:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by mteterin.us.murex.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j9SLjh70022067; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:45:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mteterin.us.murex.com: mteterin set sender to mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com using -f From: Mikhail Teterin Organization: Virtual Estates, Inc. To: =?utf-8?q?S=C3=B8ren_Schmidt?= Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:45:42 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> <20051028204803.GW39882@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510281745.43138.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV devel-20050525/1149/Thu Oct 27 16:20:09 2005 on corbulon.video-collage.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 Cc: Peter Jeremy , hackers@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very slow writing to SATA disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:46:02 -0000 > Indeed, 55C is way to high for 24/7 usage, and it might be that the   > drive is choking on it and barely is able to compensate.. The reads are pretty quick... I'd like to be able to spin it down, but ataidle is broken :-( > What does SMART say ? any unusual like high correction rates or   > anything ? % atacontrol ad8 Protocol Serial ATA v1.0 Serial ATA II device model HDS725050KLA360 serial number KRVN02ZAG1SV7C firmware revision K2AOA11A cylinders 16383 heads 16 sectors/track 63 lba supported 268435455 sectors lba48 supported 976773168 sectors dma supported overlap not supported Feature Support Enable Value Vendor write cache yes yes read ahead yes yes Native Command Queuing (NCQ) yes - 31/0x1F Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ) no no 31/0x1F SMART yes yes microcode download yes yes security yes no power management yes yes advanced power management yes no 0/0x00 automatic acoustic management yes yes 128/0x80 128/0x80 % smartctl -a /dev/ad8 === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Device Model: HDS725050KLA360 Serial Number: KRVN02ZAG1SV7C Firmware Version: K2AOA11A User Capacity: 500,107,862,016 bytes Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall] ATA Version is: 7 ATA Standard is: ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 1 Local Time is: Fri Oct 28 17:42:16 2005 EDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity was completed without error. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: (10419) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 174) minutes. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 016 Pre-fail Always - 1 2 Throughput_Performance 0x0004 159 159 050 Old_age Offline - 205 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 110 110 024 Pre-fail Always - 618 (Average 645) 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 34 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 005 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000a 100 100 067 Old_age Always - 0 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0004 136 136 020 Old_age Offline - 31 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 691 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0012 100 100 060 Old_age Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 32 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 050 Old_age Always - 62 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0012 100 100 050 Old_age Always - 62 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 105 105 000 Old_age Always - 52 (Lifetime Min/Max 22/62) 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 3 - # 2 Short captive Completed without error 00% 2 - Warning! SMART Selective Self-Test Log Structure error: invalid SMART checksum. SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 21:52:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C3E16A41F; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:52:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spider.deepcore.dk (cpe.atm2-0-53484.0x50a6c9a6.abnxx9.customer.tele.dk [80.166.201.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8E543D46; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:52:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from [194.192.25.136] (mac.deepcore.dk [194.192.25.136]) by spider.deepcore.dk (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9SLpMHq024144; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:51:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.ORG) In-Reply-To: <200510281745.43138.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> References: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> <20051028204803.GW39882@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> <200510281745.43138.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2835B7B9-03AA-4EB2-996B-8CEC485071C6@FreeBSD.ORG> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:52:23 +0200 To: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-mail-scanned: by DeepCore Virus & Spam killer v1.12 Cc: Peter Jeremy , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Very slow writing to SATA disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:52:34 -0000 On 28/10/2005, at 23:45, Mikhail Teterin wrote: >> Indeed, 55C is way to high for 24/7 usage, and it might be that the >> drive is choking on it and barely is able to compensate. > > The reads are pretty quick... I'd like to be able to spin it down, but > ataidle is broken :-( Ask the maintainer to get it fixed, but be warned experience says it =20 might hose your data... >> What does SMART say ? any unusual like high correction rates or >> anything ? > (SMART data deleted) Well except the excessive temperature nothing out of the ordinary... Now, you say read speed is OK, but write speed isnt, is that on the =20 raw disk device or though the filesystem ? S=F8ren Schmidt sos@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 22:03:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C125316A41F; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:03:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from blue.virtual-estates.net (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F152A43D46; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:03:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from corbulon.video-collage.com (static-151-204-231-237.bos.east.verizon.net [151.204.231.237]) by blue.virtual-estates.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9SM3Te6075423 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:03:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mteterin.us.murex.com (195-11.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.195.11]) by corbulon.video-collage.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9SM3NEP006782 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:03:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mteterin.us.murex.com (mteterin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mteterin.us.murex.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9SM3Ih3022417; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:03:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by mteterin.us.murex.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j9SM3Fu5022415; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:03:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mteterin.us.murex.com: mteterin set sender to mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com using -f From: Mikhail Teterin Organization: Virtual Estates, Inc. To: =?iso-8859-1?q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:03:15 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> <200510281745.43138.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <2835B7B9-03AA-4EB2-996B-8CEC485071C6@FreeBSD.ORG> In-Reply-To: <2835B7B9-03AA-4EB2-996B-8CEC485071C6@FreeBSD.ORG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510281803.15734.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV devel-20050525/1149/Thu Oct 27 16:20:09 2005 on corbulon.video-collage.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 Cc: Peter Jeremy , hackers@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very slow writing to SATA disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:03:31 -0000 > Ask the maintainer to get it [ataidle -mi] fixed, but be warned experience > says it might hose your data... The maintainer did not break it. An incompatible change to the API did :) You are, probably, in the best position to show us, how the new API should be used. > Now, you say read speed is OK, but write speed isnt, is that on the   > raw disk device or though the filesystem ? Everething is through the filesystem -- as stated in my original e-mail in this thread. There is no other activity, when a single cp reads the huge file from a SCSI disk (da1) to the IDE (ad8). According to `systat -vm', da1 is barely breaking a sweat, while ad8 is at 99-101% throughput at 7Mb/second. Soft-updates are on. The filesystem is almost empty. The box has a single dual-core Opteron-275 with 2Gb of RAM. The SATA controller is your "favorite": atapci1: port 0xac00-0xac07,0xa480-0xa483,0xa400-0xa407,0xa080-0xa083,0xa000-0xa00f mem 0 xbe6fbc00-0xbe6fbfff irq 25 at device 5.0 on pci3 -mi From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 22:18:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8852416A423; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:18:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spider.deepcore.dk (cpe.atm2-0-53484.0x50a6c9a6.abnxx9.customer.tele.dk [80.166.201.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4F543D49; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:18:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from [194.192.25.136] (mac.deepcore.dk [194.192.25.136]) by spider.deepcore.dk (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9SMGsCw024465; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:16:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.ORG) In-Reply-To: <200510281803.15734.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> References: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> <200510281745.43138.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <2835B7B9-03AA-4EB2-996B-8CEC485071C6@FreeBSD.ORG> <200510281803.15734.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:17:54 +0200 To: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-mail-scanned: by DeepCore Virus & Spam killer v1.12 Cc: Peter Jeremy , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Very slow writing to SATA disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:18:07 -0000 On 29/10/2005, at 0:03, Mikhail Teterin wrote: >> Ask the maintainer to get it [ataidle -mi] fixed, but be warned =20 >> experience >> says it might hose your data... > The maintainer did not break it. An incompatible change to the API =20 > did :) You > are, probably, in the best position to show us, how the new API =20 > should be > used. Look in smartmontools I provided patches for that, its not rocket =20 science you know... > >> Now, you say read speed is OK, but write speed isnt, is that on the >> raw disk device or though the filesystem ? > > Everething is through the filesystem -- as stated in my original e-=20 > mail in > this thread. There is no other activity, when a single cp reads the =20= > huge file > from a SCSI disk (da1) to the IDE (ad8). > > According to `systat -vm', da1 is barely breaking a sweat, while =20 > ad8 is at > 99-101% throughput at 7Mb/second. > > Soft-updates are on. The filesystem is almost empty. The box has a =20 > single > dual-core Opteron-275 with 2Gb of RAM. > > The SATA controller is your "favorite": > > atapci1: port > 0xac00-0xac07,0xa480-0xa483,0xa400-0xa407,0xa080-0xa083,0xa000-0xa00f =20= > mem 0 > xbe6fbc00-0xbe6fbfff irq 25 at device 5.0 on pci3 OK, then we dont know where the slowdown is yet... You need to find out what the transfer rates are for the RAW disk, ie =20= by doing a dd from /dev/zero to the disk with a a resonable blocksize =20= say 1M to minimize overhead. Also read speed from disk to /dev/null =20 blocksize 1M would be helpfull. S=F8ren Schmidt sos@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 22:41:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D6E16A420; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:41:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from blue.virtual-estates.net (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736D043D45; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:41:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from corbulon.video-collage.com (static-151-204-231-237.bos.east.verizon.net [151.204.231.237]) by blue.virtual-estates.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9SMfX6m075523 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:41:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mteterin.us.murex.com (195-11.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.195.11]) by corbulon.video-collage.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9SMfRtw007143 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:41:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mteterin.us.murex.com (mteterin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mteterin.us.murex.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9SMfMEW023128; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:41:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by mteterin.us.murex.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j9SMfJ3s023126; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:41:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mteterin.us.murex.com: mteterin set sender to mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com using -f From: Mikhail Teterin Organization: Virtual Estates, Inc. To: =?iso-8859-1?q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:41:19 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> <200510281803.15734.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510281841.19751.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV devel-20050525/1149/Thu Oct 27 16:20:09 2005 on corbulon.video-collage.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 Cc: Peter Jeremy , hackers@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very slow writing to SATA disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:41:36 -0000 > Look in smartmontools I provided patches for that, its not rocket   > science you know... This attitude -- on top of the API change itself -- is not really encouraging for ISVs, you know :-) > You need to find out what the transfer rates are for the RAW disk, ie   > by doing a dd from /dev/zero to the disk with a a resonable blocksize   > say 1M to minimize overhead. Also read speed from disk to /dev/null   > blocksize 1M would be helpfull. The read test averaged 62603828 bytes/sec over a minute or so. The write test is only 6931231 bytes/sec -- about 9 times less. While dd is running, `systat 1 -vm' reports about 110 ata-interrupts (irq 25) per second during the write test, and about 1000 during the read test. Thanks for your help. -mi From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 23:00:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050F116A41F; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:00:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spider.deepcore.dk (cpe.atm2-0-53484.0x50a6c9a6.abnxx9.customer.tele.dk [80.166.201.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D984E43D46; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:00:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from [194.192.25.136] (mac.deepcore.dk [194.192.25.136]) by spider.deepcore.dk (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9SMxZnn024955; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:59:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.ORG) In-Reply-To: <200510281841.19751.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> References: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> <200510281803.15734.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <200510281841.19751.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6F8F4C0A-1D7C-42FF-9CCB-C582827A5D2B@FreeBSD.ORG> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 01:00:36 +0200 To: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-mail-scanned: by DeepCore Virus & Spam killer v1.12 Cc: Peter Jeremy , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Very slow writing to SATA disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:00:52 -0000 On 29/10/2005, at 0:41, Mikhail Teterin wrote: >> Look in smartmontools I provided patches for that, its not rocket >> science you know... >> > > This attitude -- on top of the API change itself -- is not really =20 > encouraging > for ISVs, you know :-) Sigh, ataidle is a hack and the author had no intention to listen =20 back when, so I dont feel teribly sorry about it you know. Spinning =20 down disks needs to be done at the driver level so ATA knows what =20 state the disk is in etc... > >> You need to find out what the transfer rates are for the RAW disk, ie >> by doing a dd from /dev/zero to the disk with a a resonable blocksize >> say 1M to minimize overhead. Also read speed from disk to /dev/null >> blocksize 1M would be helpfull. >> > > The read test averaged 62603828 bytes/sec over a minute or so. > The write test is only 6931231 bytes/sec -- about 9 times less. > > While dd is running, `systat 1 -vm' reports about 110 ata-=20 > interrupts (irq 25) > per second during the write test, and about 1000 during the read test. Hmm, that does sound as problems with that disk, or maybe disk vs =20 diskcontroller. Any chance you could try the disk on something else ? One other thing, how much mem do you have in there ? more than 4G and =20= bounce buffering might get into the picture ruining the transfer rate... S=F8ren Schmidt sos@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 23:10:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB7F16A41F; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:10:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from blue.virtual-estates.net (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6353643D77; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:10:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from corbulon.video-collage.com (static-151-204-231-237.bos.east.verizon.net [151.204.231.237]) by blue.virtual-estates.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9SNA9sd075616 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:10:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mteterin.us.murex.com (195-11.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.195.11]) by corbulon.video-collage.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9SNA3Fd008148 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:10:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mteterin.us.murex.com (mteterin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mteterin.us.murex.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9SN9wH4023645; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:09:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by mteterin.us.murex.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j9SN9tRA023644; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:09:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mteterin.us.murex.com: mteterin set sender to mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com using -f From: Mikhail Teterin Organization: Virtual Estates, Inc. To: =?iso-8859-1?q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:09:55 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> <200510281841.19751.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <6F8F4C0A-1D7C-42FF-9CCB-C582827A5D2B@FreeBSD.ORG> In-Reply-To: <6F8F4C0A-1D7C-42FF-9CCB-C582827A5D2B@FreeBSD.ORG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510281909.55669.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV devel-20050525/1149/Thu Oct 27 16:20:09 2005 on corbulon.video-collage.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 Cc: Peter Jeremy , hackers@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very slow writing to SATA disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:10:15 -0000 > Hmm, that does sound as problems with that disk, or maybe disk vs   > diskcontroller. Any chance you could try the disk on something else ? I'll try... > One other thing, how much mem do you have in there ? more than 4G and   > bounce buffering might get into the picture ruining the transfer rate... 2Gb right now. Does the 4Gb limit apply to amd64 as well? -mi From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 23:14:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FE416A420; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:14:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spider.deepcore.dk (cpe.atm2-0-53484.0x50a6c9a6.abnxx9.customer.tele.dk [80.166.201.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0305243D46; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:14:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from [194.192.25.136] (mac.deepcore.dk [194.192.25.136]) by spider.deepcore.dk (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9SND2MR025113; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 01:13:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.ORG) In-Reply-To: <200510281909.55669.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> References: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> <200510281841.19751.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <6F8F4C0A-1D7C-42FF-9CCB-C582827A5D2B@FreeBSD.ORG> <200510281909.55669.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1558937F-50BF-4E8F-8DD0-203E8255CB2A@FreeBSD.ORG> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 01:14:03 +0200 To: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-mail-scanned: by DeepCore Virus & Spam killer v1.12 Cc: Peter Jeremy , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Very slow writing to SATA disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:14:14 -0000 On 29/10/2005, at 1:09, Mikhail Teterin wrote: >> Hmm, that does sound as problems with that disk, or maybe disk vs >> diskcontroller. Any chance you could try the disk on something else ? >> > > I'll try... > >> One other thing, how much mem do you have in there ? more than 4G and >> bounce buffering might get into the picture ruining the transfer =20 >> rate... >> > > 2Gb right now. Does the 4Gb limit apply to amd64 as well? Yes, the SiI3114 is a 32bit device.. S=F8ren Schmidt sos@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 23:26:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC3216A41F for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:26:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.org) Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F32843D45 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:25:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.org) Received: from stromnet.org (81.231.107.13) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.060.1) id 435F8641000B8590 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 01:25:58 +0200 Received: (qmail 11526 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2005 23:25:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.10.0.6?) (10.10.0.6) by elfi.stromnet.org with SMTP; 28 Oct 2005 23:25:58 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-Id: <2E968109-0C3F-4EAF-9222-C353156B450D@stromnet.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--236569539; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Str=F6m?= Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 01:26:05 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Promise SATAII 150 TX4, instant reboot when bootloader starts X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:26:00 -0000 --Apple-Mail-6--236569539 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi I'm about to upgrade my server, throwing out an old 80Gb PATA-disk =20 running Slackware, and replacing it with two SATA drives in RAID1 =20 using gmirror (yeah, replacing Slack with FreeBSD, I have seen the =20 light! ;)). Well, after some googling which didnt make me much brighter, I went =20 out and bought a Promise SATAII 150 TX4 controller card. I've also =20 ordered two Maxtor MaxLine 300GB, but don't have them here yet. So, to find out if the card played nice with FreeBSD, I took down my =20 workstation (a XP3200+ on a MSI K8N Platinum mobo, nForce3 250GB =20 chipset) and plugged in the Promise card. Downloaded 6.0-RC1-amd64-bootonly.iso and put it on a CD-RW. Pulled =20 my current SATA disk, a Western Digital 37Gb Raptor, from the onboard =20= SATA. Booted from CD. So far, so good... Looked nice, the card was found! atapci0: .... ... atapci1: .... ... atapci2: .... ... ... atapci3: port 0x9400-0x947f,=20 0x9800-0x98ff mem 0xe4021000-0xe4021fff,0xe4000000-0xe401ffff irq 19 =20 at device 9.0 on pci2 ata6: on atapci3 ata7: on atapci3 ata8: on atapci3 ata9: on atapci3 Nice! Took the computer down again, connected the Raptor drive to the =20= Promise card. Booted again, selected CD Boot. Now the bad things starts to happen. =20 I see the regular Booting from CD:... prompt (BIOS), then I see the =20 FreeBSD bootloader flash by, followed by an imediate restart. Strange... Tried a couple of times, same result. So, I thought it could be some hardware problems, so I pulled the =20 card and disk, and plugged them in to an old IBM Aptiva (Pentium II =20 300Mhz, no idea what mobo it has), and booted the CD.. No problems at =20= all! Booted fine both with and without the disk attached: ... atapci1: port 0x7800-0x787f,=20 0x7c00-0x7cff mem 0x80120000-0x80120fff,0x80140000-0x8015ffff irq11 =20 at device 15.0 on pci0 ata2: on atapci1 ata3: on atapci1 ata4: on atapci1 ata5: on atapci1 ... ad10: 35304MB at ata5-master SATA150 Okay, nicenice, no problem.. So there probably is some hardware =20 problem.. But what? Anyone got any experience with this kind of =20 hardware? Tried another thing, put the card back in the XP3200+, and booted =20 without a disk connected. Connected the disk after boot, with the following results: ata9: CONNNECTED ad18: 35304MB at ata9-master SATA150 subdisk18: detached ad18: detached ata9: DISCONNECTED Nice! Seems i could plug it in and out in the Promise as much as I =20 wanted, but when I tried the on-board SATA, it gave me a kernel panic: ata2: CONNECT REQUESTED ata2: CONNECTED ata2: CONNECT REQUESTED ad4: 35304MB at ata2-master SATA150 ata2: CONNECTED unknown: req=3D0xc2abd708 ATA_IDENTIFY semaphore timeout !! DANGER Will =20= Robinson!! >>>here it switched to first console<<< Uptime: 4m3s Cannot dump. no dump device devined. Automatic reboot in 15 sec.... Something seems not to work that good with my mobo... Not that I =20 realy care for the moment... So, my problem seems to be to get FreeBSD running with a disc =20 connected at boot, in my XP3200. The "real" server is an XP1900 on an Asus A7V333 (KT333 chipset), but =20= I'd rather don't bring it down just to test... But I guess i have to =20 sooner or later... Anyway, does anyone have any clue why the machine won't boot with the =20= disc connected? Thanks! Johan Str=F6m johan@stromnet.org http://www.stromnet.org/ --Apple-Mail-6--236569539-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 29 02:59:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B3F16A41F; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 02:59:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9683543D45; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 02:59:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.14] (imini.samsco.home [192.168.254.14]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9T2xcie021753; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:59:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <4362E59A.7040909@samsco.org> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:59:38 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050416 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= References: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> <20051028204803.GW39882@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> <200510281745.43138.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <2835B7B9-03AA-4EB2-996B-8CEC485071C6@FreeBSD.ORG> In-Reply-To: <2835B7B9-03AA-4EB2-996B-8CEC485071C6@FreeBSD.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: Peter Jeremy , Mikhail Teterin , hackers@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very slow writing to SATA disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 02:59:50 -0000 Søren Schmidt wrote: > > On 28/10/2005, at 23:45, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > >>> Indeed, 55C is way to high for 24/7 usage, and it might be that the >>> drive is choking on it and barely is able to compensate. >> >> >> The reads are pretty quick... I'd like to be able to spin it down, but >> ataidle is broken :-( > > > Ask the maintainer to get it fixed, but be warned experience says it > might hose your data... > >>> What does SMART say ? any unusual like high correction rates or >>> anything ? >> >> > > (SMART data deleted) > > Well except the excessive temperature nothing out of the ordinary... > > Now, you say read speed is OK, but write speed isnt, is that on the raw > disk device or though the filesystem ? > > Søren Schmidt > sos@FreeBSD.org > For what it's worth, I'm seeing slow write speeds on some tests with other (non-ata) controllers. Haven't had time to isolate it just yet. Scott From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 29 14:00:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F6916A41F for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:00:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rust@voliacable.com) Received: from el.volia.net (el.volia.net [82.144.192.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C30C43D46 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:59:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rust@voliacable.com) Received: from ip.82.144.214.37.dyn.sub-1-1.broadband.voliacable.com ([82.144.214.37]) by el.volia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1EVrFU-0004eP-IW for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:59:57 +0300 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:00:00 +0100 From: Nick Savchenko X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <357420041.20051029140000@voliacable.com> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: cdce driver doesn't work with Motorola SB4200 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Savchenko List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:00:00 -0000 Hi. Recently I've installed FreeBSD (RELEASE-5.4), and I cannot get my USB cable modem working. The problem is that cdce driver doesn't determine MAC address correctly. Here is a corresponding part of dmesg log (full log and other info is in the end of the message): cdce0: Motorola Corporation SB4200 USB Cable Modem, rev 1.00/1.01, addr 2 cdce0: faking MAC address cdce0: Ethernet address: 2a:00:00:00:00:00 cdce0: if_start running deferred for Giant I've also tried driver from 6.0-RC1, but result was the same. Despite I'm not familiar with programming drivers for freebsd, I've explore a code a bit, and determined, that the problem is in a following line (from /sys/dev/usb/if_cdce.c). ue = (const usb_cdc_ethernet_descriptor_t *)usb_find_desc(dev, UDESC_INTERFACE, UDESCSUB_CDC_ENF); The expression in the right part of assignment returns 0, but it should return a pointer to a structure. I've tried to look into CDCEther Linux driver, but I have no experience with system programming, and unfamiliar with device specifications, so comparison of drivers didn't help to determine why things go wrong. Any help would be greatly appreciated. uname -a FreeBSD vatutin.emacs.no-ip.org 5.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0: Sat Oct 29 12:05:21 EEST 2005 root@vatutin.emacs.no-ip.org:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0: Sat Oct 29 12:05:21 EEST 2005 root@vatutin.emacs.no-ip.org:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel Celeron (634.78-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x683 Stepping = 3 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 201240576 (191 MB) avail memory = 187248640 (178 MB) npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0xe408-0xe40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 pcm0: port 0xd800-0xd83f at device 12.0 on pci2 pcm0: isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xb800-0xb80f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xb400-0xb41f irq 5 at device 31.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) uhci1: port 0xb000-0xb01f irq 9 at device 31.4 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ppc0: port 0x778-0x77f,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcffff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 cdce0: Motorola Corporation SB4200 USB Cable Modem, rev 1.00/1.01, addr 2 Couldn't find usb_find_desc cdce0: faking MAC address cdce0: Ethernet address: 2a:00:00:00:00:00 cdce0: if_start running deferred for Giant Timecounter "TSC" frequency 634775948 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec ad0: 9768MB [19846/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66 acd0: CDRW at ata1-master PIO4 acd1: CDROM at ata1-slave PIO4 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a -- Best regards, Nick Savchenko From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 29 14:09:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC0216A41F for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:09:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825A443D45 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:09:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) Received: from palle.girgensohn.se ([213.114.205.87] [213.114.205.87]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20051029140909.WLYL11792.mxfep02.bredband.com@palle.girgensohn.se> for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:09:09 +0200 Received: from palle.girgensohn.se (palle.girgensohn.se [127.0.0.1]) by palle.girgensohn.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D953117282 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:09:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:09:09 +0200 From: Palle Girgensohn To: hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <27C4235C84DAC79167E25186@palle.girgensohn.se> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: 4 GB RAM but can only see 3 GB (HP 380) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:09:12 -0000 Hi! Two different customers have bought a HP 380 server each, both with 4 GB RAM, but FreeBSD can only see three of them. BIOS counts to 4 GB. I've tried PAE, but it doesn't help. Any tips how I can make use of the last 1GB? Both are SMP, dual Xeon CPU's. Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p6 #2: Thu Aug 25 03:49:30 CEST 2005 girgen@pingpong.hj.se:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HJKERNEL Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.40GHz (3400.14-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf43 Stepping = 3 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 3221172224 (3071 MB) avail memory = 3150819328 (3004 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 6 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard ioapic3 irqs 72-95 on motherboard ioapic4 irqs 96-119 on motherboard npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x908-0x90b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 pcib0: on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 0.0 on pci2 pci3: on pcib2 bge0: mem 0xfdef0000-0xfdefffff irq 25 at device 1.0 on pci3 miibus0: on bge0 brgphy0: on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto bge0: Ethernet address: 00:13:21:6b:77:51 bge1: mem 0xfdee0000-0xfdeeffff irq 26 at device 1.1 on pci3 miibus1: on bge1 brgphy1: on miibus1 brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto bge1: Ethernet address: 00:13:21:6b:77:50 pcib3: at device 0.2 on pci2 pci4: on pcib3 ciss0: port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 0xfdf80000-0xfdfbffff,0xfdff0000-0xfdff1fff irq 51 at device 3.0 on pci4 pcib4: at device 6.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib4 pcib5: at device 0.0 on pci5 pci6: on pcib5 pcib6: at device 0.2 on pci5 pci10: on pcib6 uhci0: port 0x2000-0x201f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x2020-0x203f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0x2040-0x205f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0x2060-0x207f irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0 usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 29.7 (no driver attached) pcib7: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib7 pci1: at device 3.0 (no driver attached) pci1: at device 4.0 (no driver attached) pci1: at device 4.2 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x500-0x50f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0: port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A fdc0: port 0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 orm0: at iomem 0xee000-0xeffff,0xc8000-0xcbfff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec acd0: DVDROM at ata0-master PIO4 da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 135.168MB/s transfers da0: 138919MB (284506560 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 34866C) SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 29 16:45:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D817216A41F; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:45:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7F343D45; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:45:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9TGjRdH029526; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 18:45:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9TGjReP008505; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 18:45:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j9TGjRxG008504; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 18:45:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 18:45:27 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Mikhail Teterin Message-ID: <20051029164527.GA8473@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200510280518.j9S5I3oQ025430@blue.virtual-estates.net> <200510281841.19751.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <6F8F4C0A-1D7C-42FF-9CCB-C582827A5D2B@FreeBSD.ORG> <200510281909.55669.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200510281909.55669.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 6.0-RC1 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Peter Jeremy , hackers@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org, =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Schmidt Subject: Re: Very slow writing to SATA disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:45:45 -0000 On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 07:09:55PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote.. > > Hmm, that does sound as problems with that disk, or maybe disk vs   > > diskcontroller. Any chance you could try the disk on something else ? > > I'll try... > > > One other thing, how much mem do you have in there ? more than 4G and   > > bounce buffering might get into the picture ruining the transfer rate... > > 2Gb right now. Does the 4Gb limit apply to amd64 as well? If your PCI card can only drive 32 addressbits you are toast beyond 4GB, in the sense that you need bounce buffers, regardless of the CPU. -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 29 23:45:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3AA16A41F for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:45:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fhard@ccstores.com) Received: from mail.qcislands.net (mail.qcislands.net [209.53.238.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C6343D45 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:45:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fhard@ccstores.com) Received: from [64.114.58.101] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mail.qcislands.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EW0O7-000Mwd-2y; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:45:27 -0700 Message-ID: <43640997.8000905@ccstores.com> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:45:27 -0700 From: Jim Pazarena Organization: City Centre Stores Ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-local_scan: locally submitted (01) Subject: multi-port serial devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:45:28 -0000 just purchased Specialix SX modular high speed serial solution Specialix has changed their name (bought out by perhaps) to Perle. The FreeDSD 5.4 hardware compatibility list indicates "Specialix SI/XIO/SX" multiport serial cards, are supports (si(4) driver) however a compile of the kernel with "device si" doesn't even discover the card. The supplied DOS utility to probe the device works as expected. Can anyone offer a suggestion. Thanks, Jim