From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 31 23:52:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE07616A41F; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:52:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from mail.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BEB43D48; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:52:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from localhost (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485A417BA85; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 01:52:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from patsy.ijs.si ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (patsy.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 06548-01-10; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 01:52:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from radagast.ijs.si (radagast.ijs.si [193.2.4.168]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A4F17B9BF; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 01:52:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.ijs.si (localhost.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) by radagast.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF901702B; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 01:52:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Dejan Lesjak To: Matthias Muthmann Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 01:52:00 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <200506201856.19739.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> <1121275965.32505.6.camel@localhost> <200507152346.27359.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> In-Reply-To: <200507250807.j6P87KF1091067@freefall.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200508010152.00699.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ijs.si Cc: x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sparc64 X and kbd keyboard driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:52:11 -0000 On Friday 15 of July 2005 23:46, Dejan Lesjak wrote: > Since xorg-server port works on sparc64 as it is now, I'd try to avoid > bumping revision for this change only for now and if possible bundle it > with possible other fixes should any be needed before ports are frozen for > FreeBSD 6.0 release. If no other fixes are needed I'd commit this and bump > revision just before the freeze so there are updated packages for release. > How does this sound? After a bit more thinking, since both versions work there doesn't seem to be a need to bump revision so it's not bumped. Regardless, 6.0 release packages should contain this fix as they are built from scratch, rather than incrementally, but I digress :) Thanks again for pointing out the patch in Xorg CVS and testing the fix! Dejan From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 11:02:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92A516A448 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:02:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FA243D5D for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:02:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j71B2NQo017400 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:02:23 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j71B2Mkn017394 for freebsd-x11@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:02:22 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:02:22 GMT Message-Id: <200508011102.j71B2Mkn017394@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:02:25 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. 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From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 11:36:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2238516A41F; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:36:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ray@redshift.com) Received: from outgoing.redshift.com (outgoing.redshift.com [207.177.231.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61DC43D49; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:36:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ray@redshift.com) Received: from workstation (216-228-19-21.dsl.redshift.com [216.228.19.21]) by outgoing.redshift.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C90197773; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 04:36:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20050801043607.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> X-Mailer: na X-Sender: redshift.com Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 04:36:07 -0700 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org From: ray@redshift.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD desktop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:36:09 -0000 Maybe someone on the hackers or x11 list can help me get going the right direction here. I can setup FreeBSD servers like the wind - tweak the kernel, you name it. So this weekend I tried to install FreeBSD 5.4 on my desktop - what a mess. I never could get anything to run, other than startx or xstart or something. I ended up once with a blank desktop (I think I typed X) and another time with the same desktop, but with 3 open windows. Anyway, I finally gave up. Anyone have any run down on loading FreeBSD as your desktop? I am trying to go with FreeBSD because I use it for my servers, but I feel like I'm lacking a broad understanding of how Unix handles windows. I get the impression there is a server that deals with windows called X windows and then there are different desktop managers (such as KDE, Gnome, etc) - but I don't understand the interplay between them and the Kernel as it relates to how I normally see FreeBSD. I'm wondering if someone can give me an overview? I'm also wondering if I'm barking up the wrong tree. I know Mac uses Darwin, which is based on BSD. And in the past, I have loaded up Redhat and SUSE and ended up with a nice desktop - but with FreeBSD I didn't have much luck, even though I installed just about everything on the install CD's. From what I could see, there were a ton of things to configure, but I couldn't find any good documentation on setting up my monitor or what the heck was going on overall - even in my BSD books, not a lot of help. Anyway, I am wondering if maybe running SUSE or Fedora or something might be better. I'm reading one article right now that says this thing called Xandros Desktop 3 is great - so far it looks nice in the article and I may give that a try. I've been using Windows XP for my desktop for so long and am so used to so many applications on it - I think it would be difficult (at this time) to change over completely. Unless Wine really does work well enough to run some applications I can't live without (e.g. Eudora or Pagemaker, etc). Anyway, any help anyone can provide would be great? I just feel like I'm lacking a core understanding of how Windowing and desktop interfaces to the Kernel. And like I say, as much as I would like to make this all happen on FreeBSD, it seems like Linux maybe is a better choice? Anyone? Ray From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 11:56:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B4116A41F for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:56:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EB2143D46 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:56:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 12944 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 11:56:19 -0000 Received: from maxwell6.pacific.net.sg (203.120.90.212) by smtpgate1 with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 11:56:19 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.246.110]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20050801115618.GXBC1233.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 19:56:18 +0800 Message-ID: <42EE0DD2.7080808@pacific.net.sg> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 19:56:02 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050801) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ray@redshift.com References: <3.0.1.32.20050801043607.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20050801043607.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD desktop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:56:22 -0000 Hi, ray@redshift.com wrote: > broad understanding of how Unix handles windows. I get the impression there is > a server that deals with windows called X windows and then there are different > desktop managers (such as KDE, Gnome, etc) - but I don't understand the > interplay between them and the Kernel as it relates to how I normally see FreeBSD. > > I'm wondering if someone can give me an overview? A very simple model would be FreeBSD is the base X offers the services for the GIU GNOME or KDE offer the real GIU. > > I'm also wondering if I'm barking up the wrong tree. I know Mac uses Darwin, > which is based on BSD. And in the past, I have loaded up Redhat and SUSE and > ended up with a nice desktop - but with FreeBSD I didn't have much luck, even Did you simply miss the installation of one of the desktops. Take GNOME or KDE for a start and try out later the simpler thing like XFCE, blackbox ... > though I installed just about everything on the install CD's. From what I could > see, there were a ton of things to configure, but I couldn't find any good > documentation on setting up my monitor or what the heck was going on overall - > even in my BSD books, not a lot of help. > X is not part of FreeBSD. X is just a normal application running on FreeBSD. > Anyway, any help anyone can provide would be great? I just feel like I'm No problem. If I understood you right, GNOME or KDE was all you missed. Install one of them and ask again afteward. > Kernel. And like I say, as much as I would like to make this all happen on > FreeBSD, it seems like Linux maybe is a better choice? > There is no real difference as GNOME and KDE are just a normal application for both FreeBSD and Linux. Erich From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 11:56:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7113516A42A for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:56:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCCA43D49 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:56:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so986059wra for ; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 04:56:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DduXM3RZ0JslIfifVe3Gd5FpUh+T3fgm3hAxcvmP7rHRwxl0XK4aZGYADXakSRdIaww2ggc54BZ8sQaSr/sLUhMarL6YdNMHs1RpUl21EYmYOtdtSBZt4ZfqfUcwFN0U7vaHBz2hlCbrEFYvZpclId3o7IlQbjVjswHA4lIUi7U= Received: by 10.54.54.39 with SMTP id c39mr2605568wra; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 04:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 04:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 15:56:34 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: "ray@redshift.com" In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20050801043607.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <3.0.1.32.20050801043607.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD desktop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:56:36 -0000 On 8/1/05, ray@redshift.com wrote: > Maybe someone on the hackers or x11 list can help me get going the righ= t > direction here. I can setup FreeBSD servers like the wind - tweak the ke= rnel, > you name it. So this weekend I tried to install FreeBSD 5.4 on my deskto= p - > what a mess. I never could get anything to run, other than startx or xst= art or > something. I ended up once with a blank desktop (I think I typed X) and = another > time with the same desktop, but with 3 open windows. Anyway, I finally g= ave up. >=20 > Anyone have any run down on loading FreeBSD as your desktop? I am tryi= ng to > go with FreeBSD because I use it for my servers, but I feel like I'm lack= ing a > broad understanding of how Unix handles windows. I get the impression th= ere is > a server that deals with windows called X windows and then there are diff= erent > desktop managers (such as KDE, Gnome, etc) - but I don't understand the > interplay between them and the Kernel as it relates to how I normally see= FreeBSD. >=20 > I'm wondering if someone can give me an overview? ... Chapter 5 in the Handbook, The X Window System, is probably what you're looking for: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html --=20 Dmitry Mityugov, St. Petersburg, Russia I ignore all messages with confidentiality statements "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 12:00:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CAD16A422; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:00:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh1.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9F443D5D; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:00:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh1.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j71C0lvY085240; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 07:00:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <42EE0EE7.2010809@centtech.com> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 07:00:39 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050603 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ray@redshift.com References: <3.0.1.32.20050801043607.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20050801043607.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.82/1000/Sun Jul 31 14:28:06 2005 on mh1.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD desktop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:00:48 -0000 ray@redshift.com wrote: > Maybe someone on the hackers or x11 list can help me get going the right > direction here. I can setup FreeBSD servers like the wind - tweak the kernel, > you name it. So this weekend I tried to install FreeBSD 5.4 on my desktop - > what a mess. I never could get anything to run, other than startx or xstart or > something. I ended up once with a blank desktop (I think I typed X) and another > time with the same desktop, but with 3 open windows. Anyway, I finally gave up. > > Anyone have any run down on loading FreeBSD as your desktop? I am trying to > go with FreeBSD because I use it for my servers, but I feel like I'm lacking a > broad understanding of how Unix handles windows. I get the impression there is > a server that deals with windows called X windows and then there are different > desktop managers (such as KDE, Gnome, etc) - but I don't understand the > interplay between them and the Kernel as it relates to how I normally see FreeBSD. > > I'm wondering if someone can give me an overview? > > I'm also wondering if I'm barking up the wrong tree. I know Mac uses Darwin, > which is based on BSD. And in the past, I have loaded up Redhat and SUSE and > ended up with a nice desktop - but with FreeBSD I didn't have much luck, even > though I installed just about everything on the install CD's. From what I could > see, there were a ton of things to configure, but I couldn't find any good > documentation on setting up my monitor or what the heck was going on overall - > even in my BSD books, not a lot of help. Have you looked at the Handbook? It pretty much covers what you need to know to get working. Also, freebsd-questions@ would be a better email list (rather than -hackers, which is for hacking on FreeBSD code, etc). > Anyway, I am wondering if maybe running SUSE or Fedora or something might be > better. I'm reading one article right now that says this thing called Xandros > Desktop 3 is great - so far it looks nice in the article and I may give that a try. Better? Depends of course. I (as do many others) use FreeBSD on my desktop and laptop, and feel no need to use anything else really. > I've been using Windows XP for my desktop for so long and am so used to so > many applications on it - I think it would be difficult (at this time) to change > over completely. Unless Wine really does work well enough to run some > applications I can't live without (e.g. Eudora or Pagemaker, etc). Not sure what you want here, but if you aren't willing to change some apps, then you shouldn't switch. FreeBSD/linux/etc are not Windows, so you can't expect them to be Windows. If you are willing to make a change of email readers (try Thunderbird, Mozilla, etc, etc) and a few other programs, you'd be fine. > Anyway, any help anyone can provide would be great? I just feel like I'm > lacking a core understanding of how Windowing and desktop interfaces to the > Kernel. And like I say, as much as I would like to make this all happen on > FreeBSD, it seems like Linux maybe is a better choice? Again, better is a general term that you haven't really defined, so nobody can help you there unless you explain what it is you want, and how you see things as 'better'. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 12:01:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CDF16A42A for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:01:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ray@redshift.com) Received: from outgoing.redshift.com (outgoing.redshift.com [207.177.231.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA2743D5C for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:01:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ray@redshift.com) Received: from workstation (216-228-19-21.dsl.redshift.com [216.228.19.21]) by outgoing.redshift.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 843A097773; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 05:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20050801050113.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> X-Mailer: na X-Sender: redshift.com Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 05:01:13 -0700 To: Erich Dollansky From: ray@redshift.com In-Reply-To: <42EE0DD2.7080808@pacific.net.sg> References: <3.0.1.32.20050801043607.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> <3.0.1.32.20050801043607.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD desktop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:01:16 -0000 At 07:56 PM 8/1/2005 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: | Hi, | | ray@redshift.com wrote: | | > broad understanding of how Unix handles windows. I get the impression there is | > a server that deals with windows called X windows and then there are different | > desktop managers (such as KDE, Gnome, etc) - but I don't understand the | > interplay between them and the Kernel as it relates to how I normally see FreeBSD. | > | > I'm wondering if someone can give me an overview? | | A very simple model would be | | FreeBSD is the base | X offers the services for the GIU | GNOME or KDE offer the real GIU. | > | > I'm also wondering if I'm barking up the wrong tree. I know Mac uses Darwin, | > which is based on BSD. And in the past, I have loaded up Redhat and SUSE and | > ended up with a nice desktop - but with FreeBSD I didn't have much luck, even | | Did you simply miss the installation of one of the desktops. | | Take GNOME or KDE for a start and try out later the simpler thing like | XFCE, blackbox ... | | > though I installed just about everything on the install CD's. From what I could | > see, there were a ton of things to configure, but I couldn't find any good | > documentation on setting up my monitor or what the heck was going on overall - | > even in my BSD books, not a lot of help. | > | X is not part of FreeBSD. X is just a normal application running on FreeBSD. | | > Anyway, any help anyone can provide would be great? I just feel like I'm | | No problem. | | If I understood you right, GNOME or KDE was all you missed. | | Install one of them and ask again afteward. | | > Kernel. And like I say, as much as I would like to make this all happen on | > FreeBSD, it seems like Linux maybe is a better choice? | > | There is no real difference as GNOME and KDE are just a normal | application for both FreeBSD and Linux. | | Erich Thanks for the note. I could have sworn I installed Gnome2 - I will go back through and try again. As far as I recall, during the install, I did the kernel developer - X windows and then under the packages to install, I picked just about everything relating to KDE or Gnome. When it booted, I ended up at a normal login shell, then was unable to figure out how to get Gnome or Xwindows or anything else up and running. I was just about to install Xandros, but they require that moronic bit torrent for downloads. Where's the ISO I tell ya! :-) Ray From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 12:14:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1E616A420 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:14:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (mail-in-08.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BAB43D62 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:14:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.13]) by mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E49607B9; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 14:14:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.45]) by mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB3842BBC; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 14:14:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dsl-213-023-197-011.arcor-ip.net [213.23.197.11]) by mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B6C57EE4; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 14:14:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j71CEZXj044310 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 1 Aug 2005 14:14:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) From: Michael Nottebrock To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 14:14:29 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <3.0.1.32.20050801043607.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20050801043607.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> X-Face: =Ym$`&q\+S2X$4`X%x%6"L4>Y,$]<":'L%c9"#7#`2tb&E&wsN31on!N\)3BD[g<=?utf-8?q?=2EjnfV=5B=0A=093=23?=>XchLK,o; >bD>c:]^; :>0>vyZ.X[,63GW`&M>}nYnr]-Fp``,[[@lJ!QL|sfW!s)=?utf-8?q?A2!*=0A=09vNkB/=7CL-?=>&QdSbQg X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD desktop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:14:45 -0000 --nextPart1282346.LznCV67Xi5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday, 1. August 2005 13:36, ray@redshift.com wrote: > Anyway, any help anyone can provide would be great? I just feel like I'm > lacking a core understanding of how Windowing and desktop interfaces to t= he > Kernel. And like I say, as much as I would like to make this all happen = on > FreeBSD, it seems like Linux maybe is a better choice? [-hackers@ taken off the CC-list] You already got it pretty much right. X is a server that provides a display= =20 for client applications to display windows on. To get something going that= =20 resembles your run-of-the-mill Linux desktop, install your favourite deskto= p=20 environment or window manager from ports and put it into the appropriate X= =20 startup script.=20 Example:=20 [as root] pkg_add -r blackbox echo "blackbox" > ~/.xinitrc startx Or if you want something that resembles the graphical login on SuSE: [as root] pkg_add -r kdebase [as root] edit /etc/ttys and replace the line ttyv8 "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure with=20 ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure [as root] killall -HUP init You'll get a graphical login screen which will automatically come up every= =20 time you boot. =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart1282346.LznCV67Xi5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBC7hIpXhc68WspdLARAs/iAJ0cdnQqgX9BlYi7xqsmcbnbtHaR7gCfSr2d IpCGa2oTl6Q2xaUqadSPjwY= =tLNl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1282346.LznCV67Xi5-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 12:14:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00F816A427 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:14:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D1AC43D4C for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:14:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 11655 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 12:14:54 -0000 Received: from maxwell2.pacific.net.sg (203.120.90.192) by smtpgate2 with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 12:14:54 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.246.110]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20050801121454.XXUH28012.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 20:14:54 +0800 Message-ID: <42EE122E.9050602@pacific.net.sg> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 20:14:38 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050801) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ray@redshift.com References: <3.0.1.32.20050801043607.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> <3.0.1.32.20050801043607.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> <3.0.1.32.20050801050113.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20050801050113.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD desktop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:14:59 -0000 Hi, ray@redshift.com wrote: > At 07:56 PM 8/1/2005 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > | > | ray@redshift.com wrote: > | > | Take GNOME or KDE for a start and try out later the simpler thing like > | XFCE, blackbox ... > | > Thanks for the note. I could have sworn I installed Gnome2 - I will go back Oh, then you must use the proper script to start it. GDM for GNOME and KDM for KDE? Erich From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 19:23:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7957D16A41F; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 19:23:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from carlson39@llnl.gov) Received: from smtp-3.llnl.gov (smtp-3.llnl.gov [128.115.41.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A94143D49; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 19:23:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from carlson39@llnl.gov) Received: from wushu.llnl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-3.llnl.gov (8.12.3p2-20030917/8.12.3/LLNL evision: 1.16 $) with ESMTP id j71JNTMq010618; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:23:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Carlson To: ray@redshift.com In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20050801043607.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> References: <3.0.1.32.20050801043607.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:23:29 -0700 Message-Id: <1122924209.19849.18.camel@wushu.llnl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD desktop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 19:23:31 -0000 Hello Ray, I've been using FreeBSD 5.x as my primary desktop for almost a year now, and I've used it as a secondary for years. It can be a little difficult when compared to something like like Redhat but once you get it going its wonderful. First, you should update your ports, I use a cvsup script like this one: *default host=cvsup10.freebsd.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress ports-all Then I usually run portupgrade -ra, this will sort out any dependencies especially with libraries changing so often, After that, install the xorg window system. This is sort of the back-end to a nice GUI interface. $ cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg $ make clean install Then, pick a Window Manager you would like, I constatnly switch between Gnome, KDE and XFCE for no real reason, I just like the variety. But if you dont want to wait a couple of days, XFCE is probably the lightest Window Manager. $ cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce-4 $ make clean install Do you want a session manager to come up automatically? You can use the default xdm, but I prefer gdm or kdm. $ cd /usr/ports/x11/gdm $ make clean install $ chmod +x /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d/gdm.sh That should get you up and running. If you have a nVidia card, I recommend installing the driver in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver. After all is said and done, run xorgcfg(1) to get a basic xorg.conf file created. Thats off the top of my head, be sure to check the handbook and google :) Mike C On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 04:36 -0700, ray@redshift.com wrote: > Maybe someone on the hackers or x11 list can help me get going the right > direction here. I can setup FreeBSD servers like the wind - tweak the kernel, > you name it. So this weekend I tried to install FreeBSD 5.4 on my desktop - > what a mess. I never could get anything to run, other than startx or xstart or > something. I ended up once with a blank desktop (I think I typed X) and another > time with the same desktop, but with 3 open windows. Anyway, I finally gave up. > > Anyone have any run down on loading FreeBSD as your desktop? I am trying to > go with FreeBSD because I use it for my servers, but I feel like I'm lacking a > broad understanding of how Unix handles windows. I get the impression there is > a server that deals with windows called X windows and then there are different > desktop managers (such as KDE, Gnome, etc) - but I don't understand the > interplay between them and the Kernel as it relates to how I normally see FreeBSD. > > I'm wondering if someone can give me an overview? > > I'm also wondering if I'm barking up the wrong tree. I know Mac uses Darwin, > which is based on BSD. And in the past, I have loaded up Redhat and SUSE and > ended up with a nice desktop - but with FreeBSD I didn't have much luck, even > though I installed just about everything on the install CD's. From what I could > see, there were a ton of things to configure, but I couldn't find any good > documentation on setting up my monitor or what the heck was going on overall - > even in my BSD books, not a lot of help. > > Anyway, I am wondering if maybe running SUSE or Fedora or something might be > better. I'm reading one article right now that says this thing called Xandros > Desktop 3 is great - so far it looks nice in the article and I may give that a try. > > I've been using Windows XP for my desktop for so long and am so used to so > many applications on it - I think it would be difficult (at this time) to change > over completely. Unless Wine really does work well enough to run some > applications I can't live without (e.g. Eudora or Pagemaker, etc). > > Anyway, any help anyone can provide would be great? I just feel like I'm > lacking a core understanding of how Windowing and desktop interfaces to the > Kernel. And like I say, as much as I would like to make this all happen on > FreeBSD, it seems like Linux maybe is a better choice? > > Anyone? > > Ray > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 20:21:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70DEC16A41F for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 20:21:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trancekat@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFED143D45 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 20:21:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trancekat@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i21so1077754wra for ; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 13:21:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=OD6RraLh94af9WhKmNtjSCL9F0i4gHkS/x3Z63RKPXN6T19FNniEbFizd98HdllyFRu23G4GwmJqNNCIc5qWTFLcjhnBz0bbixCUEza8YE3YSQjIYMT22sqJ4pv2WvRRiMy30Mpi15vPGFpIca+pojbRlNjRN1yg/WMpKpOgjVU= Received: by 10.54.52.27 with SMTP id z27mr3151714wrz; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 13:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Trix ([70.193.42.99]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 29sm1380856wrl.2005.08.01.13.21.29; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 13:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <006e01c596d6$997e0db0$153193cc@Trix> From: "Trance Kat" To: Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 16:21:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: xf86EnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 20:21:31 -0000 Hi everyone, My name is Alex, and I have been wrestling with a new installation of FreeBSD. I want to get X Windows running, but I keep getting the error: xf86EnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O whenever I run X -configure I checked /dev/io and it is there. I looked in the kernel and I do have "device io" there as well. I am running FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE. /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/GENERIC Thanks in advance, Alex From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 20:33:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C5416A41F; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 20:33:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pete@users.altadena.net) Received: from users.altadena.net (users.altadena.net [207.151.161.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C307B43D45; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 20:33:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pete@users.altadena.net) Received: from pete by users.altadena.net with local (Exim 4.51) id 1Dzgy9-00019t-J7; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 13:33:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 13:33:05 -0700 From: Pete Carah To: amd64@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, x11@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050801203305.GA3612@users.altadena.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Pete Carah Cc: Subject: Compaq v2310 revisited in 32-bit mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 20:33:06 -0000 I gave up on keeping my new amd64 compaq in 64-bit mode due mostly to the lack of 64-bit drivers even from HP. Even the PCcard driver only kind-of worked... The pc-card works in 32bit mode; in fbsd/amd64 it hung the system whenever a card (Dlink ath card) was plugged in, then resumed whenever it was unplugged. This works fine in 32-bit (I'm typing through it now). There is no 64-bit Broadcom driver out there that I could find that handled the 4318. Linuxant.com had a 64bit driver that, when the .inf was patched to recognize the 4318, did so, but fbsd never attached the ndis driver due to a timeout. The 32bit driver is better but doesn't handle WPA. (in fact nothing shows up in "list scan" so something fundamental is wrong. I got the driver out of my own /windows/system32/drivers directory so I know it works in windoze (WPA works fine in windows on the same access point). I get reboots whenever trying X11 on the ATI chipset in this machine, using the .12 or .16 snapshot at xorg. Eric and JKim: This happens also in 32-bit mode (I was wishing :-) So, the TI cardbus driver lacks something in 64-bit mode and the ndisulator is better (but might be OK if Broadcom released a 64-bit driver for the 4318...) (and even better if they did something like atheros and released a layered driver to handle the nda stuff, but I'm not holding my breath...) Also, I couldn't get the CD boot to work (in fact, the generic kernel in general) without disabling a bunch of stuff in hints. I still haven't quite figured out what it is but it partly seems to be atapi_dma. Still progress needed. If anyone involved in the hardware effort (especially X11) lives in Southern Calif, I can help with some access to the hardware. I do have the TI datasheet (all 300 pages) for the chip that handles the pccard (also fw and the built-in flash-card reader/writer). I never tried fw in 64-bit mode to see if that part of the driver worked. Once I get some time I can look into the relevant drivers to see what is going on there. It may be that some address masking/bounce-buffer stuff needs to be done... (or does the amd64 port always assign addresses that fit into 32 bits if there is less than 4g ram present?) Again, all this works fine in windoze (32-bit mode again; HP isn't (yet) participating in the MS 64-bit XP exchange program, maybe thanks to Broadcom?). (though I also don't know about ATI...) USB and ATA do work in 64-bit; those are in the main ATI chipset. I think that atapi_dma doesn't but don't know for sure since the only symptom I see is a hang before the geom printouts during boot. (and that could be the drive and not the chipset anyhow?) I've kept verbose dmesg and several xorg logs from the 64-bit phase in case. (http://www.altadena.net/~pete/amd64/) -- Pete From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 08:39:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942DE16A420 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 08:39:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pcasidy@casidy.com) Received: from scotty.galacsys.net (scotty.galacsys.net [217.24.81.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEEDB43D46 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 08:39:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pcasidy@casidy.com) Received: from smtp.casidy.net (lns-vlq-39f-81-56-135-122.adsl.proxad.net [81.56.135.122]) by scotty.galacsys.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B0BC50C9 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 10:39:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from casidy.com (unknown [192.168.1.2]) by smtp.casidy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B8DB870 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 10:39:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 10:39:05 +0000 (UTC) From: pcasidy@casidy.com To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <20050802083912.24B8DB870@smtp.casidy.net> Subject: X core dump with Xvideo X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 08:39:18 -0000 Hi! After finally been able to have a "working" X environnement (see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/81215), I tried to play some videos. I have tried to video players (Xine and mplayer) and both make Xorg crash. Using mplayer and a debug compiled xorg, I get the following backtrace from the Xorg.core : #0 0x2824e7af in kill () from /lib/libc.so.5 (gdb) wher #0 0x2824e7af in kill () from /lib/libc.so.5 #1 0x28243856 in raise () from /lib/libc.so.5 #2 0x282b70df in abort () from /lib/libc.so.5 #3 0x0806d58c in ddxGiveUp () at xf86Init.c:1244 #4 0x0806d65a in AbortDDX () at xf86Init.c:1299 #5 0x080dda1e in AbortServer () at log.c:404 #6 0x080ddcb0 in FatalError ( f=0x818ccd4 "Caught signal %d. Server aborting\n") at log.c:550 #7 0x0808269b in xf86SigHandler (signo=11) at xf86Events.c:1313 #8 0xbfbfff94 in ?? () #9 0x0000000b in ?? () #10 0x0000000c in ?? () #11 0xbfbfe430 in ?? () #12 0x00000008 in ?? () #13 0x080825f4 in xf86InterceptSigIll () at xf86Events.c:1278 #14 0x080aaf19 in xf86XVSetPortAttribute (client=0x8c04200, pPort=0x0, attribute=89, value=0) at xf86xv.c:1653 #15 0x2834599b in XvdiSetPortAttribute (client=0x8c04200, pPort=0x59, attribute=89, value=136216576) at xvmain.c:1154 #16 0x2834702f in ProcXvSetPortAttribute (client=0x8c04200) at xvdisp.c:879 #17 0x28345be5 in ProcXvDispatch (client=0x8c04200) at xvdisp.c:268 #18 0x080b4f8f in Dispatch () at dispatch.c:449 #19 0x080c5ef5 in main (argc=3, argv=0xbfbfed10, envp=0xbfbfed20) at main.c:446 xpdyinfo reports: byte 2094name of display: :0.0 version number: 11.0 vendor string: The X.Org Foundation vendor release number: 60899012 X.Org version: 6.8.99.12 maximum request size: 16777212 bytes motion buffer size: 256 bitmap unit, bit order, padding: 32, LSBFirst, 32 image byte order: LSBFirst number of supported pixmap formats: 7 supported pixmap formats: depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32 depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32 depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32 depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32 depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32 depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32 depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32 keycode range: minimum 8, maximum 255 focus: window 0x120000e, revert to PointerRoot number of extensions: 30 BIG-REQUESTS DAMAGE DEC-XTRAP DOUBLE-BUFFER DPMS Extended-Visual-Information GLX MIT-SCREEN-SAVER MIT-SHM MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD RANDR RECORD RENDER SECURITY SGI-GLX SHAPE SYNC TOG-CUP X-Resource XC-APPGROUP XC-MISC XFIXES XFree86-Bigfont XFree86-DGA XFree86-Misc XFree86-VidModeExtension XInputExtension XKEYBOARD XTEST XVideo default screen number: 0 number of screens: 1 screen #0: print screen: no dimensions: 1680x1050 pixels (569x356 millimeters) resolution: 75x75 dots per inch depths (7): 24, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 32 root window id: 0x44 depth of root window: 24 planes number of colormaps: minimum 1, maximum 1 default colormap: 0x20 default number of colormap cells: 256 preallocated pixels: black 0, white 16777215 options: backing-store NO, save-unders NO largest cursor: 64x64 current input event mask: 0x7a802c ButtonPressMask ButtonReleaseMask LeaveWindowMask ExposureMask StructureNotifyMask SubstructureNotifyMask SubstructureRedirectMask FocusChangeMask PropertyChangeMask number of visuals: 8 default visual id: 0x23 visual: visual id: 0x23 class: TrueColor depth: 24 planes available colormap entries: 256 per subfiel red, green, blue masks: 0xff0000, 0xff00, 0 significant bits in color specification: 8 visual: visual id: 0x24 class: TrueColor depth: 24 planes available colormap entries: 256 per subfiel red, green, blue masks: 0xff0000, 0xff00, 0 significant bits in color specification: 8 visual: visual id: 0x25 class: TrueColor depth: 24 planes available colormap entries: 256 per subfiel red, green, blue masks: 0xff0000, 0xff00, 0 significant bits in color specification: 8 visual: visual id: 0x26 class: TrueColor depth: 24 planes available colormap entries: 256 per subfiel red, green, blue masks: 0xff0000, 0xff00, 0 significant bits in color specification: 8 visual: visual id: 0x27 class: DirectColor depth: 24 planes available colormap entries: 256 per subfiel red, green, blue masks: 0xff0000, 0xff00, 0 significant bits in color specification: 8 visual: visual id: 0x28 class: DirectColor depth: 24 planes available colormap entries: 256 per subfiel red, green, blue masks: 0xff0000, 0xff00, 0 significant bits in color specification: 8 visual: visual id: 0x29 class: DirectColor depth: 24 planes available colormap entries: 256 per subfiel red, green, blue masks: 0xff0000, 0xff00, 0 significant bits in color specification: 8 visual: visual id: 0x2a class: DirectColor depth: 24 planes available colormap entries: 256 per subfiel red, green, blue masks: 0xff0000, 0xff00, 0 significant bits in color specification: 8 Let me know if you need more informations. Thanks. Philippe. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 17:53:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6AB16A41F for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 17:53:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ray@redshift.com) Received: from outgoing.redshift.com (outgoing.redshift.com [207.177.231.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB7A43D46 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 17:53:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ray@redshift.com) Received: from workstation (216-228-19-21.dsl.redshift.com [216.228.19.21]) by outgoing.redshift.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 33A4A9790E for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 10:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20050802105326.00a547c8@pop.redshift.com> X-Mailer: na X-Sender: redshift.com Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 10:53:26 -0700 To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org From: ray@redshift.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: GTK+ ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 17:53:26 -0000 I'm new to the x11 list - is this the proper list to ask question regarding GTK+ development? I was thinking about trying some development in BSD using GTK+ and wasn't sure if this was the place to ask questions, or perhaps the hackers and/or gnome list or something might be better? Does anyone on this list develop using GTK? Thanks. Ray From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 18:23:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B746616A41F for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 18:23:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (mail-in-01.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EACA43D48 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 18:23:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.18]) by mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BEEA20DAA; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 20:23:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (mail-in-03.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.43]) by mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC831248D5; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 20:23:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dsl-213-023-197-043.arcor-ip.net [213.23.197.43]) by mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDD24C23D; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 20:23:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j72INSvk067914 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Aug 2005 20:23:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) From: Michael Nottebrock To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 20:23:22 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <3.0.1.32.20050802105326.00a547c8@pop.redshift.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20050802105326.00a547c8@pop.redshift.com> X-Face: =Ym$`&q\+S2X$4`X%x%6"L4>Y,$]<":'L%c9"#7#`2tb&E&wsN31on!N\)3BD[g<=?utf-8?q?=2EjnfV=5B=0A=093=23?=>XchLK,o; >bD>c:]^; :>0>vyZ.X[,63GW`&M>}nYnr]-Fp``,[[@lJ!QL|sfW!s)=?utf-8?q?A2!*=0A=09vNkB/=7CL-?=>&QdSbQg X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: Subject: Re: GTK+ ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 18:23:37 -0000 --nextPart2293048.IkNuG19BCI Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday, 2. August 2005 19:53, ray@redshift.com wrote: > I'm new to the x11 list - is this the proper list to ask question regardi= ng > GTK+ development? I was thinking about trying some development in BSD > using GTK+ and wasn't sure if this was the place to ask questions, or > perhaps the hackers and/or gnome list or something might be better? Try these: http://www.gtk.org/mailinglists.html =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart2293048.IkNuG19BCI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBC77ofXhc68WspdLARAk/4AJ9w/i/PoLryy1Im7KMU5e9hc2eVNACgj/3T 0q0ib/JCC1lQOFm+IV0+qyk= =uKqn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2293048.IkNuG19BCI-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 05:39:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBF716A41F for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2005 05:39:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ledbetter.paul@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6C543D45 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2005 05:39:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ledbetter.paul@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i5so292080wra for ; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 22:39:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Um4vGgjIqAqMzNlcbo8xNjEDYw6iuzIvSK1FCj+asdRvEOCqlpKZZ+9MSahgT3OcqJmqvRbtQhUa2rlQE4Tt28mbYu0PqYsS90wAxAS4kIUpHc7ZDPnCNKiJ5PXjuFx5fB0I43OS6Of64Kju11+yCkxEoVtE1UO+G6IVYEu9A/c= Received: by 10.54.11.20 with SMTP id 20mr2234685wrk; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 22:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.103.2 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 22:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4523c6cc05080422392ba4e080@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 00:39:17 -0500 From: Paul Ledbetter III To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Problems building xorg-clients port X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Ledbetter III List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 05:39:19 -0000 Hello,=20 I am unable to build the xorg-clients port. Advice would be appreciated. I am running into the following error: cc -O -pipe -ansi -pedantic -Wno-system-headers -Dasm=3D__asm -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wundef -I/usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients/work/xc -I/usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients/work/xc/exports/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2/config -I/usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients/work/xc/exports/include/X11 =20 -I/usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients/work/xc -I/usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients/work/xc/exports/include=20 -I/usr/X11R6/include -DCSRG_BASED -DFUNCPROTO=3D15 -DNARROWPROTO =20 -DMITSHM -DXFT -DXFREE86_FT2 -DXRENDER -c do_traps.c do_traps.c:113: error: syntax error before '*' token do_traps.c:113: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `traps' do_traps.c:113: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage class do_traps.c: In function `InitFixedTraps': do_traps.c:129: error: `XTrap' undeclared (first use in this function) do_traps.c:129: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once do_traps.c:129: error: for each function it appears in.) do_traps.c:129: error: `curTrap' undeclared (first use in this function) do_traps.c:130: warning: ISO C90 forbids mixed declarations and code do_traps.c:144: error: syntax error before ')' token do_traps.c:207: warning: value computed is not used do_traps.c: In function `DoFixedTraps': do_traps.c:248: warning: implicit declaration of function `XRenderAddTraps' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients/work/xc/programs/x11perf. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients/work/xc/programs. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients. Paul From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 10:44:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2A216A41F for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2005 10:44:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from mail.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA33243D46 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2005 10:44:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from localhost (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153F517B838; Fri, 5 Aug 2005 12:44:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from patsy.ijs.si ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (patsy.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 75716-02-5; Fri, 5 Aug 2005 12:44:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from radagast.ijs.si (radagast.ijs.si [193.2.4.168]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724AD17B863; Fri, 5 Aug 2005 12:44:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.ijs.si (localhost.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) by radagast.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E6F1702C; Fri, 5 Aug 2005 12:44:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Dejan Lesjak To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, Paul Ledbetter III Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 12:44:26 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <4523c6cc05080422392ba4e080@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200507250807.j6P87KF1091067@freefall.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200508051244.27097.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ijs.si Cc: Subject: Re: Problems building xorg-clients port X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:44:42 -0000 On Friday 05 of August 2005 07:39, Paul Ledbetter III wrote: > Hello, > > I am unable to build the xorg-clients port. Advice would be > appreciated. I am running into the following error: > > cc -O -pipe -ansi -pedantic -Wno-system-headers -Dasm=__asm -Wall > -Wpointer-arith -Wundef -I/usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients/work/xc > -I/usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients/work/xc/exports/include > -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include > -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2/config > -I/usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients/work/xc/exports/include/X11 > -I/usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients/work/xc > -I/usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients/work/xc/exports/include > -I/usr/X11R6/include -DCSRG_BASED -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO > -DMITSHM -DXFT -DXFREE86_FT2 -DXRENDER -c do_traps.c > do_traps.c:113: error: syntax error before '*' token > do_traps.c:113: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `traps' > do_traps.c:113: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or > storage class > do_traps.c: In function `InitFixedTraps': > do_traps.c:129: error: `XTrap' undeclared (first use in this function) > do_traps.c:129: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > do_traps.c:129: error: for each function it appears in.) > do_traps.c:129: error: `curTrap' undeclared (first use in this function) > do_traps.c:130: warning: ISO C90 forbids mixed declarations and code > do_traps.c:144: error: syntax error before ')' token > do_traps.c:207: warning: value computed is not used > do_traps.c: In function `DoFixedTraps': > do_traps.c:248: warning: implicit declaration of function `XRenderAddTraps' > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients/work/xc/programs/x11perf. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients/work/xc/programs. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients. Are your other ports up to date? Specifically xorg-libraries should be of the same version as xorg-clients, as well as imake. What is the FreeBSD version and what version of xorg-clients are you trying to build? Dejan From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 23:10:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF5E16A41F for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2005 23:10:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ledbetter.paul@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B283543D45 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2005 23:10:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ledbetter.paul@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so670070wra for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2005 16:10:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=PRjWARpCPeEu0fCgxIBv3Hd+VFPNXqTrLEt4vQRZ/OR7x+qlscxxgGTxsT+XHWvNxdowtjJKPOP5tD7oSkiF3F2Ush1odZiKZFA8HnAFPQ3SGOlRCVJ4AdPcxKsWLA9/4U6rEeV3yBmELbF3I1/Cyq44v/kkQgGD8eYzNa7SxaM= Received: by 10.54.57.44 with SMTP id f44mr3016158wra; Fri, 05 Aug 2005 16:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.103.2 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2005 16:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4523c6cc05080516104c6d727@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 18:10:39 -0500 From: Paul Ledbetter III To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Problems building xorg-clients port X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Ledbetter III List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 23:10:40 -0000 > Are your other ports up to date? Specifically xorg-libraries should be of > the > same version as xorg-clients, as well as imake. What is the FreeBSD versi= on > I finally found out that I needed to install the xorg-libraries first. Does anyone happen to know why the xorg-clients port does not depend on the prerequisite ports? From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 23:19:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4F416A41F for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2005 23:19:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from mail.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEF143D45 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2005 23:19:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from localhost (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FA517B872; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 01:19:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from patsy.ijs.si ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (patsy.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20757-01-2; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 01:19:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from radagast.ijs.si (radagast.ijs.si [193.2.4.168]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD4B17B88F; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 01:19:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.ijs.si (localhost.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) by radagast.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F651702B; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 01:19:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Dejan Lesjak To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, Paul Ledbetter III Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 01:19:14 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <4523c6cc05080516104c6d727@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200507250807.j6P87KF1091067@freefall.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200508060119.14824.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ijs.si Cc: Subject: Re: Problems building xorg-clients port X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 23:19:29 -0000 On Saturday 06 of August 2005 01:10, Paul Ledbetter III wrote: > > Are your other ports up to date? Specifically xorg-libraries should be of > > the > > same version as xorg-clients, as well as imake. What is the FreeBSD > > version > > I finally found out that I needed to install the xorg-libraries first. > Does anyone happen to know why the xorg-clients port does not depend > on the prerequisite ports? It does - that's why there is "USE_XLIB=yes" in Makefile. It certainly builds fine on pointyhat which only installs registered dependencies. Perhaps you had stale libX11.so.6 lying around. Dejan From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 00:21:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1C316A41F for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 00:21:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ledbetter.paul@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E759243D45 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 00:21:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ledbetter.paul@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i5so458217wra for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:21:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Q2jcsW38Q5ZbrQYe6RJA63W9/FL9sVoJtXNCT3nedbAzNgZjCu1iZq5k9rrRZsO/CYHFFXiWJjKzxNI07aWu7QMBjm4YJTjIg4vxmQGX5+3jVJajs2iu0N7fc4LjNsFLGk4XcIf9N7dsbnIHAloCjyPk/IPIP3j5ifgIt4tIv/k= Received: by 10.54.49.17 with SMTP id w17mr3042261wrw; Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.103.2 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2005 17:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4523c6cc050805172163f20ba3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 19:21:50 -0500 From: Paul Ledbetter III To: Dejan Lesjak In-Reply-To: <200508060119.14824.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <4523c6cc05080516104c6d727@mail.gmail.com> <200507250807.j6P87KF1091067@freefall.freebsd.org> <200508060119.14824.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems building xorg-clients port X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 00:21:51 -0000 > It does - that's why there is "USE_XLIB=3Dyes" in Makefile. It certainly > builds=20 > fine on pointyhat which only installs registered dependencies. Perhaps yo= u=20 > had stale libX11.so.6 lying around. >=20 I think I see what you are saying. The ports system can not distinguish between different versions of the xorg-libraries port. So it is up to me to discover and update the correct versions of software the xorg-clients port depends on. Paul From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 00:29:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E49B16A41F for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 00:29:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) Received: from leguin.anholt.net (69-30-77-85.dq1sn.easystreet.com [69.30.77.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A7543D46 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 00:29:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) Received: from leguin.anholt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leguin.anholt.net (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j760T9q1081728; Fri, 5 Aug 2005 17:29:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) Received: (from anholt@localhost) by leguin.anholt.net (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j760T8J8081727; Fri, 5 Aug 2005 17:29:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: leguin.anholt.net: anholt set sender to eta@lclark.edu using -f From: Eric Anholt To: Paul Ledbetter III In-Reply-To: <4523c6cc050805172163f20ba3@mail.gmail.com> References: <4523c6cc05080516104c6d727@mail.gmail.com> <200507250807.j6P87KF1091067@freefall.freebsd.org> <200508060119.14824.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> <4523c6cc050805172163f20ba3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:29:07 -0700 Message-Id: <1123288147.59823.78.camel@leguin> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems building xorg-clients port X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 00:29:14 -0000 On Fri, 2005-08-05 at 19:21 -0500, Paul Ledbetter III wrote: > > It does - that's why there is "USE_XLIB=yes" in Makefile. It certainly > > builds > > fine on pointyhat which only installs registered dependencies. Perhaps you > > had stale libX11.so.6 lying around. > > > > I think I see what you are saying. The ports system can not > distinguish between different > versions of the xorg-libraries port. So it is up to me to discover > and update the correct versions of software the xorg-clients port > depends on. Well, it doesn't have to be up to you. Use sysutils/portupgrade. -- Eric Anholt eta@lclark.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/ anholt@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 00:38:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD97C16A420 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 00:38:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from mail.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4695543D53 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 00:38:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from localhost (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7EB17B886; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 02:38:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from patsy.ijs.si ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (patsy.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24716-01-2; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 02:38:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from radagast.ijs.si (radagast.ijs.si [193.2.4.168]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D3417B87F; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 02:38:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.ijs.si (localhost.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) by radagast.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8033F1702B; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 02:38:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Dejan Lesjak To: Paul Ledbetter III Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 02:38:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <4523c6cc05080516104c6d727@mail.gmail.com> <200508060119.14824.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> <4523c6cc050805172163f20ba3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4523c6cc050805172163f20ba3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200508060238.06239.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ijs.si Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems building xorg-clients port X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 00:38:31 -0000 On Saturday 06 of August 2005 02:21, Paul Ledbetter III wrote: > > It does - that's why there is "USE_XLIB=yes" in Makefile. It certainly > > builds > > fine on pointyhat which only installs registered dependencies. Perhaps > > you had stale libX11.so.6 lying around. > > I think I see what you are saying. The ports system can not > distinguish between different > versions of the xorg-libraries port. So it is up to me to discover > and update the correct versions of software the xorg-clients port > depends on. Well, if a port would break because of outdated dependency, you can always ask on mailing lists :) Xorg (and XFree86 for that matter) ports will work best and sometimes require other xorg- ports (and imake) of the same version. Fortunately there are also tools to aid with upgrading dependency chains: You can use sysutils/portupgrade utility which is a great help with that. Should you choose to use it upgrading xorg-clients for example would be as easy as portupgrade -R xorg-clients and installing could be done with something like portinstall -R xorg-clients I hope this helps somewhat. Dejan From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 17:54:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EF816A41F for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 17:54:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mcd_advisory@yahoo.com) Received: from web30903.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30903.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED1D443D46 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 17:54:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mcd_advisory@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 33616 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Aug 2005 17:54:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ks9hJnfcLqyM/eGEhNGMiB8Iby/Yy/FIWLKiXKMNnTbhHQgFsJ++GgB86RtoqdlCHrl43pqJ4MlUcMvq6r32I/3K0Nx0/luFD4nTz50aUyII88f6VhfCf2EPmGY9EOV+6MQI28TcKwcPA1b1s3eYDDY5Q+qfAMqXwHV9LQGXwKI= ; Message-ID: <20050806175455.33614.qmail@web30903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.28.117.66] by web30903.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 06 Aug 2005 10:54:55 PDT Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 10:54:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Mervin McDougall To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd questions , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Conflict between high resolution console and X X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 17:54:57 -0000 Hi all I have been experimenting with FreeBSD 6.0 BETA 2 on my laptop which uses a ati radeon Mobile Utiliy 1 (IGP 320M) video vard. I have been able to configure both high console resolution MODE_279 and X on the laptop, however I have noticed that this error turns up whenever I boot the system or restart X : drm0: port 0x9000-0x90ff mem 0xe8000000-0xefffffff,0xe0100000-0xe010ffff irq 9 at device 5.0 on pci1 info: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.16.0 20050311 on minor 0 error: [drm:pid2557:radeon_cp_init] *ERROR* radeon_cp_init called without lock held error: [drm:pid2557:drm_unlock] *ERROR* Process 2557 using kernel context 0 After much googling and scanning of my system, I figured a quick way to get rid of the error message, by disabling dri in the xorg.conf. But that is not the only problem I discovered. I noticed that when playing music there is constant annoying repeating of the sound until the console displays. This only happens when switching from X to high resolution console. Switching back does not reproduce the problem. Incidentally, I deleted my xorg.conf and restarted the server in error and this cause Xorg to generate X using its own built in defaults. Consequently this solved the problem of the choppy repetitive music. Similarly, If I have a configured xorg.conf and I restart X after booting (CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE) the problem goes away. I haven't been able to pin the problem down to discover how to get rid of the problem and still have a workable and have an xorg.conf without having to restart the X server. Can anyone share their thoughts ? Mervin McDougall ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 22:11:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35FE16A421 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 22:11:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A51F43D5A for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 22:11:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so263083wri for ; Sat, 06 Aug 2005 15:11:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QxKrOPED4SqmYhd846FjvLUZ4+Eaep+Ax+QvI2H1ovYdkIeUYsPbFDXb7J84NQubII8X0PC2/JNNLmdF2CFyApvvW2jHhcqOpV5tySUjFEhhhado8uEuluMU4hA1Xj5bu3pcQKvm3rju60Mk+UKPbYbJe7OSnVMNeRZ+K39aSOU= Received: by 10.54.53.62 with SMTP id b62mr3738664wra; Sat, 06 Aug 2005 15:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.11 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 15:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 17:11:37 -0500 From: Nikolas Britton To: Mervin McDougall In-Reply-To: <20050806175455.33614.qmail@web30903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050806175455.33614.qmail@web30903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd questions Subject: Re: Conflict between high resolution console and X X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nikolas Britton List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 22:11:40 -0000 On 8/6/05, Mervin McDougall wrote: > Hi all > I have been experimenting with FreeBSD 6.0 BETA 2 on > my laptop which uses a ati radeon Mobile Utiliy 1 > (IGP 320M) video vard. I have been able to configure > both high console resolution MODE_279 and X on the > laptop, however I have noticed that this error turns > up whenever I boot the system or restart X : >=20 > drm0: port > 0x9000-0x90ff mem > 0xe8000000-0xefffffff,0xe0100000-0xe010ffff irq 9 at > device 5.0 on pci1 > info: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.16.0 20050311 on > minor 0 > error: [drm:pid2557:radeon_cp_init] *ERROR* > radeon_cp_init called without lock held > error: [drm:pid2557:drm_unlock] *ERROR* Process 2557 > using kernel context 0 >=20 > After much googling and scanning of my system, I > figured a quick way to get rid of the error message, > by disabling dri in the xorg.conf. But that is not the > only problem I discovered. I noticed that when playing > music there is constant annoying repeating of the > sound until the console displays. This only happens > when switching from X to high resolution console. > Switching back does not reproduce the problem. I've always had that problem on my patched freebsd 5 (had it setup for months) system. Scrolling (scroll lock) will do it to... It may help to play with the sysctls for: hw.snd.pcm%d.buffersize: Configure the amount of DMA bufferspace available for a device.... jack this up to like 16384 hw.snd.targetirqrate: Set the default block size such that continuous playback will achieve this IRQ rate. This value can be tuned to improve application performance. =20 Increase this value when the sound lags and decrease it if sound stutters or breaks up..... just this up to You set them with loader.conf, here's what I have in mine: hw.snd.maxautovchans=3D4 hw.snd.targetirqrate=3D36 hint.pcm.0.buffersize=3D"16384" You can check it with: sysctl -a hw.snd=20 >=20 > Incidentally, I deleted my xorg.conf and restarted the > server in error and this cause Xorg to generate X > using its own built in defaults. Consequently this > solved the problem of the choppy repetitive music. >=20 > Similarly, If I have a configured xorg.conf and I > restart X after booting (CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE) the > problem goes away. > I haven't been able to pin the problem down to > discover how to get rid of the problem and still have > a workable and have an xorg.conf without having to > restart the X server. Can anyone share their thoughts > ? >=20 > Mervin McDougall >=20 >=20 >=20 > ____________________________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >