From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 26 18:42:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B6816A420 for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:42:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from ameno.mahoroba.org (gw4.mahoroba.org [218.45.22.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7204D43D55 for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:42:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from kasuga.mahoroba.org (IDENT:KHVovB8TWQROT/ZWRSTH8YkGOH3+4iq9CZTkRDoWveAzvrfiZcu41ZwXm+4nJHPn@kasuga-iwi.mahoroba.org [IPv6:3ffe:501:185b:8010:212:f0ff:fe52:6ac]) (user=ume mech=CRAM-MD5 bits=0) by ameno.mahoroba.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP/inet6 id k1QIge6A093596 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 27 Feb 2006 03:42:41 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 03:42:40 +0900 Message-ID: From: Hajimu UMEMOTO To: Marcin Koziej In-Reply-To: <4400C2FD.7040907@desk.pl> References: <4400C2FD.7040907@desk.pl> User-Agent: xcite1.38> Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.0.50 (i386-unknown-freebsd6.1) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE X-PGP-Key: http://www.imasy.or.jp/~ume/publickey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1F00 0B9E 2164 70FC 6DC5 BF5F 04E9 F086 BF90 71FE Organization: Internet Mutual Aid Society, YOKOHAMA MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.3 (ameno.mahoroba.org [IPv6:3ffe:501:185b:8010::1]); Mon, 27 Feb 2006 03:42:42 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on ameno.mahoroba.org Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 Cool'n'quiet overheating. X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:42:55 -0000 Hi, >>>>> On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 21:50:05 +0100 >>>>> Marcin Koziej said: creep> Hello. I have a laptop with AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3700+, creep> I use FreeBSD STABLE (6.1-PRERELEASE) and I have problems with cpu/fan creep> throttling. creep> I used acpi_ppc module by Fukada Nobuhiko's and it served me well when creep> it comes to making the machine cool quickly and shutting down the fan to creep> make it quiet -- unfortunately, it can only use the fan (no cpufreq), creep> and the machine was overheating (hitting _CRT) under high load (eg. big creep> builds), when acpi failed to enter passive cooling. creep> I tried to use cpufreq based solutions: creep> - acpi_cnq module made by Fukada Nabuhiko, but it panic's on kldload creep> in both STABLE and CURRENT creep> - passive-cooling patch / powered-thermal from creep> http://www.imasy.or.jp/~ume/FreeBSD/ and powernow module by Bruno creep> Ducrot, which works, but the fan is not strong enough -- not only it is creep> almost always on (acpi_ppc was quiet most the time), but it sometimes creep> failes to avoid the _CRT temperature, which shutdowns the system -- it creep> tries to keep temp under _PSV, but the fan power used is too weak. All of the passive-cooling stuff were already merged into RELENG_6. So, you don't need the patches found in http://www.imasy.or.jp/~ume/FreeBSD/. I think it was applied wrongly. Sincerely, -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan ume@mahoroba.org ume@{,jp.}FreeBSD.org http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 27 11:02:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCF716A420 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:02:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B15C43D8C for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:02:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1RB2JN2046916 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:02:19 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k1RB2IkU046910 for freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:02:18 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:02:18 GMT Message-Id: <200602271102.k1RB2IkU046910@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:02:21 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2003/07/22] i386/54756 acpi ACPI suspend/resume problem on CF-W2 lapt o [2003/08/17] i386/55661 acpi ACPI suspend/resume problem on ARMADA M70 o [2003/08/20] kern/55822 acpi No ACPI power off with SMP kernel o [2003/08/27] kern/56024 acpi ACPI suspend drains battery while in S3 o [2003/09/03] i386/56372 acpi acpi don't work on TYAN tiger100 M/B o [2004/03/09] i386/64002 acpi acpi problem o [2004/05/27] i386/67273 acpi [hang] system hangs with acpi and Xfree o [2004/10/12] i386/72566 acpi ACPI, FreeBSD disables fan on Compaq Arma o [2005/03/21] i386/79080 acpi acpi thermal changes freezes HP nx6110 o [2005/03/21] i386/79081 acpi ACPI suspend/resume not working on HP nx6 o [2005/04/28] i386/80426 acpi [APIC] [panic] 5.4-RC3 still panic when b o [2005/10/17] i386/87568 acpi [ACPI] [REGRESSION] 6.0-STABLE needs ACPI 12 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2004/05/28] kern/67309 acpi zzz reboot computer (ACPI S3) o [2004/07/29] i386/69750 acpi Boot without ACPI failed on ASUS L5 o [2004/11/11] i386/73822 acpi [request] add thermal support to ACPI o [2004/11/11] kern/73823 acpi [feature request] acpi / power-on by time f [2004/11/17] kern/74030 acpi Unplugging AC causes battery % to stay lo 5 problems total. From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 1 11:49:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A218116A423; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:49:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from creep@desk.pl) Received: from router.student.pw.edu.pl (router.student.pw.edu.pl [194.29.137.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6E543D67; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:49:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from creep@desk.pl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by router.student.pw.edu.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A727C008; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 12:49:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from router.student.pw.edu.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (router.student.pw.edu.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03419-30; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 12:49:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.15.5.235] (unknown [10.15.5.235]) by router.student.pw.edu.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 12:49:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <44058A2B.8070405@desk.pl> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:48:59 +0100 From: Marcin Koziej User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruno Ducrot , freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org, ume@freebsd.org References: <4400C2FD.7040907@desk.pl> <20060228184230.GA4007@poupinou.org> In-Reply-To: <20060228184230.GA4007@poupinou.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at student.pw.edu.pl Cc: Subject: Re: AMD64 Cool'n'quiet overheating. X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:49:38 -0000 Thank You for Your replies :) > Maybe you forgot to enable powerd(8) at boot-time? > > Something like this: > powerd_enable="YES" > into your /etc/rc.conf I didn't :) Actually I have read all the documentation / relevant google groups threads i could find befor mailing freebsd-acpi@. > BTW Umemoto-san already merged his work on passive cooling into both > RELENG_6 and HEAD, so you don't have to patch anymore. I missed that, true, now i run not patched STABLE. However, my problems remain: 1. With cpufreq framework, I tried powernow module (with powerd of course). Problems: a) sometimes powerd 'misses' the temperature jumping from somewhere near _PSV to over _CRT resulting in system shutdown. - I tried to change the interval time but it didn't help much, I'll try to check it better though. - I tried to lower the _PSV value somehow, but I cannot -- either with sysctl or asl acpi tweaking. - I tried to set ACx levels to better cool my cpu, but failed to set them (they are all set to -1 and no mention of them in the acpi asl) b) when the system is idle, and the temp is about 47-55 degrees Celsius, the acpi_ppc module seemed quieter (it turned off completely i guess). powernow modules is running fan at lowest, but still audible and quite distracting level 2. With acpi_ppc, the cooling is well driven, but acpi_ppc does not throttle cpu when _PSV is hit resulting in _CRT shutdown. - I think acpi_cnq (as acpi_ppc to cpufreq port) would join acpi_ppc's fan-driving and cpufreq passive cooling, but It panics on kldload (a bad free). - Is acpi_cnq integrated obsoleted by powernow module? Reminder: CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3700+ (2401.37-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0xf4a Stepping = 10 Features=0x78bfbff AMD Features=0xe0500800 Thanks for support, m. From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 1 13:03:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6248A16A420; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 13:03:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.152.83.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC08E43D46; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 13:03:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from anb (anb.matik.com.br [200.152.83.34]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k21D2fet083417; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:02:42 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) From: JoaoBR To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:02:40 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <4400C2FD.7040907@desk.pl> <20060228184230.GA4007@poupinou.org> <44058A2B.8070405@desk.pl> In-Reply-To: <44058A2B.8070405@desk.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200603011002.41279.joao@matik.com.br> X-Filter-Version: 1.11a (msrv.matik.com.br) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88, clamav-milter version 0.87 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Marcin Koziej Subject: Re: AMD64 Cool'n'quiet overheating. X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:03:01 -0000 On Wednesday 01 March 2006 08:48, Marcin Koziej wrote: > Thank You for Your replies :) > > > I missed that, true, now i run not patched STABLE. However, my problems > remain: > Hi I have several of amd64 procesors inlcuding X2 and i do not have any proble= m=20 at all and I believe cool'n quiet is working very well on each of it what MB do you use? some do have a Bios option where cool'n quiet can be disabled or so and som= e=20 may have a acpi 2.0 option or your MB may not support it correctly at all? seems you run i386, on my amd64 I compile this into the kernel device cpufreq device smbus device smb device acpi and get ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3700+ (2210.09-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin =3D "AuthenticAMD" Id =3D 0x20f71 Stepping =3D 1 =20 =46eatures=3D0x78bfbff Features2=3D0x1 AMD Features=3D0xe2500800,LM,3DNow+,3DNow> real memory =3D 2147418112 (2047 MB) avail memory =3D 2067456000 (1971 MB) ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 powernow0: on cpu0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 1 15:11:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B5F16A420 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:11:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733EC43D55 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:10:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k21FA4md062737 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:10:04 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k21FA4L2062736; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:10:04 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:10:04 GMT Message-Id: <200603011510.k21FA4L2062736@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.org From: Masaru Oenoki Cc: Subject: Re: i386/56372: acpi don't work on TYAN tiger100 M/B X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Masaru Oenoki List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:11:16 -0000 The following reply was made to PR i386/56372; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Masaru Oenoki To: John Baldwin Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i386/56372: acpi don't work on TYAN tiger100 M/B Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 00:01:23 +0900 It works well on 6.0! Thank you very much for your cooperation. Regards, Masaru Oenoki From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 1 15:38:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE8416A42D; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:38:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E7243D72; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:38:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (jhb@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k21Fc3G8065097; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:38:03 GMT (envelope-from jhb@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k21Fc3NS065093; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:38:03 GMT (envelope-from jhb) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:38:03 GMT From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200603011538.k21Fc3NS065093@freefall.freebsd.org> To: enokion@yahoo.co.jp, jhb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: i386/56372: acpi don't work on TYAN tiger100 M/B X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:38:04 -0000 Synopsis: acpi don't work on TYAN tiger100 M/B State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jhb State-Changed-When: Wed Mar 1 15:37:42 UTC 2006 State-Changed-Why: Submitter reports that 6.0 works fine. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=56372 From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 1 16:20:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7405816A420 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:20:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from creep@desk.pl) Received: from hera.desk.pl (hera.desk.pl [195.137.189.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD89543D95 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:19:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from creep@desk.pl) Received: from localhost (hera.local [127.0.0.1]) by hera.desk.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB42A75C373; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 17:16:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from hera.desk.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09613-01; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 17:16:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from webpoczta.desk.pl (hera [195.137.189.205]) by hera.desk.pl (Postfix) with SMTP id DCEA575C36E; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 17:16:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from 194.29.167.162 (WebPoczta DESK.pl account: creep@desk.pl) by webpoczta.desk.pl with HTTP; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 17:16:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <34579.194.29.167.162.1141229761.WebPoczta@webpoczta.desk.pl> In-Reply-To: <200603011002.41279.joao@matik.com.br> References: <4400C2FD.7040907@desk.pl> <20060228184230.GA4007@poupinou.org> <44058A2B.8070405@desk.pl> <200603011002.41279.joao@matik.com.br> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 17:16:01 +0100 (CET) From: "Marcin Koziej" To: "JoaoBR" User-Agent: System Poczty DESK.pl/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Antivirus: Skaner Antywirusowy DESK.pl Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 Cool'n'quiet overheating. ACPI bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:20:13 -0000 I have PHOENIX bios version 0.9, the mother board is VIA K8XXXX (I don't remember precisely, i'll check) I noticed a weird thing, I made some test making my system shutdown while 'make -j6 buildworld'. I've made plots for both acpi_ppc and powernow w/ powerd. http://galera.ii.pw.edu.pl/~mkoziej/bsd/acpi_ppc.gif http://galera.ii.pw.edu.pl/~mkoziej/bsd/powernow.gif Please take a look, blue dashed line - cpu yellow - tz1.temp - cpu green horizontal tz1._PSV red - tz0.temp - hd propably blue horizontal tz0._PSV All data is read via sysctl every 0.5 sec. Notice how the temperature readings rise when the system shutdowns because of overheating. The funny thing is, it shutdowns not because of tz1 (cpu), but tz0, which jumps to critical value (???). for powernow/powerd tz0=65 tz1=77 cf=2417705519 tz0=65 tz1=77 cf=2417910721 tz0=65 tz1=77 cf=2415936702 tz0=65 tz1=88 cf=2416307446 tz0=65 tz1=88 cf=2416576021 tz0=65 tz1=88 cf=2417039114 tz0=65 tz1=88 cf=2417932171 tz0=65 tz1=88 cf=2418087771 tz0=65 tz1=88 cf=2501617153 tz0=65 tz1=89 cf=2417387431 tz0=65 tz1=89 cf=2416360118 tz0=65 tz1=89 cf=2418412904 tz0=65 tz1=89 cf=2416242706 tz0=65 tz1=89 cf=2418159100 tz0=65 tz1=89 cf=2421253299 tz0=65 tz1=91 cf=2086969428 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=1833956647 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=805414225 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=805840001 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=839116645 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=805418729 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=805362461 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=805716574 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=805477377 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=805388821 for acpi_ppc (no CPU throttling): tz0=59 tz1=88 cf=2401379699 tz0=59 tz1=88 cf=2401380510 tz0=59 tz1=88 cf=2401381583 tz0=59 tz1=89 cf=2401382351 tz0=59 tz1=89 cf=2401378420 tz0=59 tz1=89 cf=2401379007 tz0=59 tz1=89 cf=2401380296 tz0=59 tz1=89 cf=2401380889 tz0=59 tz1=89 cf=2461789255 tz0=59 tz1=90 cf=1901011303 tz0=59 tz1=90 cf=2401381292 tz0=59 tz1=90 cf=2401376480 tz0=59 tz1=90 cf=2401379591 tz0=59 tz1=90 cf=2465842741 tz0=60 tz1=90 cf=2401379681 tz0=60 tz1=90 cf=2401378740 tz0=60 tz1=90 cf=2401378363 tz0=60 tz1=90 cf=2401381539 tz0=60 tz1=90 cf=2401381739 tz0=60 tz1=90 cf=2463364678 tz0=60 tz1=90 cf=2401377334 tz0=60 tz1=90 cf=2403215458 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=2301234467 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=2401381742 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=2401379380 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=2401380799 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=2334049734 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=2314373696 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=2401378620 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=2401379990 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=2401381876 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=2401382279 tz0=80 tz1=95 cf=2420919814 The message is: Mar 1 14:06:12 carnivore root: WARNING: system temperature too high, shutting down soon! Mar 1 14:06:22 carnivore kernel: acpi_tz0: WARNING - current temperature (80.0C) exceeds safe limits Mar 1 14:06:30 carnivore syslogd: exiting on signal 15 Very weird...do I have a broken BIOS? I don't have the machine with me right now, but it's ACER Aspire 1525WLMi, I'll send the spec tomorrow. Best regards, m. From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 3 12:53:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E9316A420 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:53:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pg01@chello.hu) Received: from viefep17-int.chello.at (viefep17-int.chello.at [213.46.255.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC7E43D48 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:53:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pg01@chello.hu) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by viefep17-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20060303125303.OZPM10477.viefep17-int.chello.at@localhost> for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 13:53:03 +0100 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.16 (webedge20-101-1106-20040809) X-Originating-IP: [80.98.148.111] From: Papp =?ISO-8859-2?B?R+Fib3I=?= To: Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 13:53:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20060303125303.OZPM10477.viefep17-int.chello.at@localhost> Cc: Subject: Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo L1300 ACPI-Mouse conflict X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:53:07 -0000 Hi, I've a Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo L1300 notebook with 6.1-PRERELEASE. When I enable ACPI my mouse don't work. (/dev/psm0 isn't exist) When I don't enable works fine. (/dev/psm0 exist) dmesg write this: psmcpnp0: irq 12 on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0067 atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2) kbd0 at atkbd0 kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x0, flags:0x3d0000 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: current command byte:0067 psm0: failed to reset the aux device. my full dmesg, acpidump, sysctl output is here: http://pg01.freebase.hu/ Best regards Gabor Papp From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 4 01:38:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83E916A420 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 01:38:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua) Received: from postman.atlantis.dp.ua (postman.atlantis.dp.ua [193.108.47.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F106943D45 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 01:38:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua) Received: from smtp.atlantis.dp.ua (smtp.atlantis.dp.ua [193.108.46.231]) by postman.atlantis.dp.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k241c6cE077727; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 03:38:06 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 03:38:06 +0200 (EET) From: Dmitry Pryanishnikov To: Milan Obuch In-Reply-To: <200603031142.51384.current@dino.sk> Message-ID: <20060304030656.W61340@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> References: <20060303120227.I86586@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> <200603031142.51384.current@dino.sk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell D810/FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE/interrupts?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 01:38:20 -0000 Hello! (I've changed CC: from freebsd-current to freebsd-acpi since it's more appropriate there). What this thread is about: many people (including me) have a hardware which gives unacceptable performance if the new defaults *_cx_lowest="LOW" aren't overridden. On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Milan Obuch wrote: > On Friday 03 March 2006 11:19, Dmitry Pryanishnikov wrote: >> Hello! >> On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Anthony Maher wrote: >>> In /etc/rc.conf, commenting out the following solved the problems. >>> >>> ###performance_cx_lowest="LOW" >>> ###economy_cx_lowest="LOW" >>> >>> sorry for the noise. >> >> It's not a noise, it's a real problem. My ASUS M5A notebook (Intel >> Pentium M CPU model 750 1.86GHz), usually quite fast machine, becomes >> dead slow if I leave now-default settings *_cx_lowest="LOW". Every >> keystroke takes almost second to get echo on idle machine. I understand, >> ACPI developers want to test non-C1 cx states, that's why default >> settings have changed. But with this level of performance everybody will >> just switch back to C1. >> > > Could you eventually try another Cx state? I have similar trouble with VIA > Samuel based system, available states are C1, C2 and C3. LOW means C3, but > this is terribly slow and unusable, in effect. C2, set via sysctl works well. > I think ACPI developers would like to know our experiences. My hardware claims only C1 and C2, if notebook was started with AC power: hw.acpi.cpu.cx_supported: C1/1 C2/1 and C1-C3 if it was started on batteries: hw.acpi.cpu.cx_supported: C1/1 C2/1 C3/1 (BTW, is it normal?) If I switch to C2, it not only slows machine down, but also breaks timer-based delays: root@notebook# date;sleep 5;date Sat Mar 4 03:21:44 EET 2006 Sat Mar 4 03:21:49 EET 2006 root@notebook# sysctl hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest=C2 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1 -> C2 root@notebook# date;sleep 5;date Sat Mar 4 03:22:46 EET 2006 Sat Mar 4 03:23:18 EET 2006 (redraw delay in 'top -s 1' raises to 6-7 seconds). C3 (when it's available) looks the same as C2. Of course I run my notebook forced to C1. I would be glad to provide any additional info in order to help developers to fix the issue. I'm a novice in ACPI-related stuff so I don't dig into it myself. Sincerely, Dmitry -- Atlantis ISP, System Administrator e-mail: dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua nic-hdl: LYNX-RIPE