From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 17 14:26:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0175416A47C for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alex.Kovalenko@verizon.net) Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net (vms042pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C389043D5C for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:26:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Alex.Kovalenko@verizon.net) Received: from RabbitsDen ([70.21.201.244]) by vms042.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0J5Q001LUQSE9IM0@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> for acpi@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:26:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 10:26:16 -0400 From: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" In-reply-to: <20060916234642.GC698@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: David Wolfskill Message-id: <1158503176.754.26.camel@RabbitsDen> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_O58A4aArqvfZgtRbBK518g)" References: <20060916234642.GC698@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Cc: acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Avoiding "WARNING: system temperature too high, shutting down soon!"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:26:46 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_O58A4aArqvfZgtRbBK518g) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT On Sat, 2006-09-16 at 16:46 -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > I could use some help: I seem to overheat my laptop; I'd like to get > some idea of how to avoid the overheating, preferably while still > getting the work done. > > The laptop is a Dell Inspiron 8200. I recently bought this one to > replace a 1.6 GHz one that had developed an occasional problem with > the LCD display that made the display unusable (though I could SSH in to > the machine usually). This machine is a 2.4 GHz P4M with 768 MB RAM (at > the moment). > > During Nate's BAFUG talk earlier this month, I decided to try running > powerd; I set the mode at "adaptive" for AC, battery, and unknown, and > dev.cpu.0.freq reports that it normally sits at 150, but appears to ramp > up quite responsively during, say, a "make buildworld." (The eralier > laptop sits at dev.cpu.0.freq=1600 during that process; the current one > sits at 2400 -- as expected). > > However, the temperature (as reported by hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature), > which meanders between 52 - 62C while the machine isn't doing much, > tends to spend long stretches of time in the 80 - 90C range during a > "make buildworld" (as reported by a "while (1)" loop during said > process). As you can see from the salient sysctl values, that's not a > lot of headroom: > > g1-18(6.2-P)[4] sysctl hw.acpi.thermal dev.cpu.0 > hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0 > hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10 > hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 58.5C > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 0 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: -1 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 94.0C > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 > dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU > dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu > dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU0 > dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 > dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 > dev.cpu.0.freq: 150 > dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2400/0 2100/0 1800/0 1500/0 1200/0 1050/0 900/0 750/0 600/0 450/0 300/0 150/0 > g1-18(6.2-P)[5] > > leading to: > > Sep 16 10:11:43 localhost root: WARNING: system temperature too high, shutting down soon! > Sep 16 10:11:43 localhost syslogd: /dev/:0: No such file or directory > Sep 16 10:11:49 localhost kernel: acpi_tz0: WARNING - current temperature (94.5C) exceeds safe limits > Sep 16 10:11:55 localhost syslogd: exiting on signal 15 > > this morning while I was running yesterday's -CURRENT, building today's. > (I had already built today's -STABLE, aka -6.2-PRERELEASE successfully.) > > And that's the work that I'd like to be able to do: track RELENG_6 > & HEAD on a daily basis. With a few interruptions, mostly from > events not of my choosing, I've been doing this with various machines, > including laptops, for some years. > > I suppose it's possible that the cooling just isn't adequate for the > machine, though each of the 2 fans appears to operate. (Each has a > "high", "low", and "off" setting; one fan is for the CPU; the other is > for the motherboard -- per Dell's diagnostics. The motherboard fan > does make an odd sound sometimes, though the diagnostics claim that it > was running fine.) > > Just prior to the forced shutdown (above), the reported temperature > had been >90C for several minutes, and the fans were going full > bore. I had elevated the laptop above a smooth flat surface, then > put a bag of ice under it -- apparently to no avail. > > So: in the face of prolonged near-critical temperatures, is there a way > to tell the machine to throttle back & work a bit less hard? OF course, > if there's a way to make the cooling more effective, I'd certainly be > interested in that, as well -- but having the machine shut down like > that is awfully disruptive. :-/ > > Please include me in responses, as ACPI isn't one of the things I follow > closely enough to subscribe to the list. > > I will, of course, summariize responses sent off-list that appear to be > useful. > > Thanks! > > Peace, > david I have attached patch, I have put together in the days of 6-CURRENT (I think), which adds -t switch to powerd. Patch would coerce powerd to drop CPU frequency when temperature is reached. Unfortunately, I no longer have 6.x system to try it on, so if patch would not apply, you can either manually add necessary code or send me your version of /usr/src/usr.sbin/powerd/powerd.c and I will modify it appropriately. Since, it does not look like you have ACx levels configured in your ASL, it is possible that your BIOS have "Fan learning" option. This is the mode when CPU is run at different frequencies and under different load and fan speed is adjusted to keep temperature at certain level. Obstructing air flow (by partially bloking air holes) during learning mode will usually result in cooler, but noisier system. When I had similar problem with my laptop, applying moderate amount of the thermal grease and resetting CPU fan fixed it for good. I would also recommend investigation source of the noise, you have mentioned -- mechanical obstacles in the path of the fan might cause fan itself to heat up in the most inopportune moment (read at the highest speeds). Additionally, if you are pretty much sure that your hardware could withstand higher temperatures, you can always override _CRT value in your ASL. See appropriate handbook section to dump your ASL and then search for something like Method (_CRT, 0, NotSerialized) { Return (KELV (0x5d)) } return value is in the tenth of the degree on the Kelvin's scale. I, personally, would not do that. And last, but not the least -- Antec coolpad (active, USB powered) is buildword's best friend -- even if your laptop handles temperature properly, replacing the coolpad is much cheaper and easier then replacing the fan which has died because it was running full bore for far too long. HTH, -- Alexandre Kovalenko (Олександр Коваленко) --Boundary_(ID_O58A4aArqvfZgtRbBK518g) Content-type: text/x-patch; name=powerd.c.patch; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: attachment; filename=powerd.c.patch --- ./usr.sbin/powerd/powerd.c Sun Apr 17 11:25:41 2005 +++ /home/sunny/powerd.c Sun Apr 24 20:46:40 2005 @@ -46,7 +46,8 @@ #define DEFAULT_ACTIVE_PERCENT 65 #define DEFAULT_IDLE_PERCENT 90 -#define DEFAULT_POLL_INTERVAL 500 /* Poll interval in milliseconds */ +#define DEFAULT_POLL_INTERVAL 500 /* Poll interval in milliseconds */ +#define VERY_HIGH_TEMPERATURE 200 enum modes_t { MODE_MIN, @@ -83,11 +84,13 @@ static int freq_mib[4]; static int levels_mib[4]; static int acline_mib[3]; +static int temp_mib[5]; /* Configuration */ static int cpu_running_mark; static int cpu_idle_mark; static int poll_ival; +static int passive_cooling_mark; static int apm_fd; static int exit_requested; @@ -244,7 +247,7 @@ { fprintf(stderr, -"usage: powerd [-v] [-a mode] [-b mode] [-i %%] [-n mode] [-p ival] [-r %%]\n"); +"usage: powerd [-v] [-a mode] [-b mode] [-i %%] [-n mode] [-p ival] [-r %%] [-t temperature]\n"); exit(1); } @@ -252,7 +255,7 @@ main(int argc, char * argv[]) { long idle, total; - int curfreq, *freqs, i, *mwatts, numfreqs; + int curfreq, *freqs, i, *mwatts, numfreqs, temperature; int ch, mode_ac, mode_battery, mode_none, acline, mode, vflag; uint64_t mjoules_used; size_t len; @@ -263,10 +266,11 @@ cpu_idle_mark = DEFAULT_IDLE_PERCENT; poll_ival = DEFAULT_POLL_INTERVAL; mjoules_used = 0; + passive_cooling_mark = VERY_HIGH_TEMPERATURE; vflag = 0; apm_fd = -1; - while ((ch = getopt(argc, argv, "a:b:i:n:p:r:v")) != EOF) + while ((ch = getopt(argc, argv, "a:b:i:n:p:r:t:v")) != EOF) switch (ch) { case 'a': parse_mode(optarg, &mode_ac, ch); @@ -300,6 +304,16 @@ usage(); } break; + case 't': + passive_cooling_mark = atoi(optarg); + if(passive_cooling_mark < 0 || passive_cooling_mark > 100) { + warnx("%d is not valid temperature for passive cooling", + passive_cooling_mark); + usage(); + } + passive_cooling_mark *= 10; + passive_cooling_mark += 2733; + break; case 'v': vflag = 1; break; @@ -320,6 +334,9 @@ len = 4; if (sysctlnametomib("dev.cpu.0.freq_levels", levels_mib, &len)) err(1, "lookup freq_levels"); + len = 5; + if (sysctlnametomib("hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature", temp_mib, &len)) + err(1, "lookup temperature"); /* Check if we can read the idle time and supported freqs. */ if (read_usage_times(NULL, NULL)) @@ -370,6 +387,10 @@ len = sizeof(curfreq); if (sysctl(freq_mib, 4, &curfreq, &len, NULL, 0)) err(1, "error reading current CPU frequency"); + /* Read current temperature. */ + len = sizeof(temperature); + if(sysctl(temp_mib, 5, &temperature, &len, NULL, 0)) + err(1, "error reading current temperature"); if (vflag) { for (i = 0; i < numfreqs; i++) { @@ -410,12 +431,31 @@ err(1, "error setting CPU freq %d", freqs[0]); } + /* Check for passive cooling override */ + if(temperature > passive_cooling_mark) { + if (vflag) { + printf("passive cooling override; " + "changing frequency to %d MHz\n", + freqs[numfreqs - 1]); + } + if (set_freq(freqs[numfreqs - 1])) + err(1, "error setting CPU freq %d", + freqs[numfreqs - 1]); + } continue; } /* Adaptive mode; get the current CPU usage times. */ if (read_usage_times(&idle, &total)) err(1, "read_usage_times"); + /* + * If temperature has risen over passive cooling mark, we + * would want to decrease frequency regardless of the load, + * Simplest way to go about this would be to report 100% + * idle CPU and let adaptive algorithm do its job. + */ + if(temperature > passive_cooling_mark) + idle = total; /* * If we're idle less than the active mark, jump the CPU to --Boundary_(ID_O58A4aArqvfZgtRbBK518g)-- From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 17 16:53:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EF516A407 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:53:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fockewulf@yandex.ru) Received: from smtp1.yandex.ru (smtp1.yandex.ru [213.180.223.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E1E43D5D for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:53:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fockewulf@yandex.ru) Received: from bluesocket.liwest.at ([212.33.33.83]:12806 "EHLO HP-OB-6000" smtp-auth: "fockewulf" TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S2077600AbWIQQxS convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:53:18 +0400 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at smtp1.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: fockewulf Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:53:12 +0200 From: Igor Rulyov X-Mailer: Voyager (v3.63.07 (BETA)) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <504584004.20060917185312@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Subject: After compiling - ACPI error X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Igor Rulyov List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:53:25 -0000 Hello! May be anyone knows the same probem: [1] I have: FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE on HP OmniBook 6000 [2] After installation, without compiled own-KERNEL: ACPI works fine (for Ex.: shutdown works well). [3] After compilation of the own-KERNEL, ACPI doesn't work normal any more. This see i in "dmesg.boot": ... ACPI-0314: *** Error: Invalid signature where RSDP indicates RSDT/XSDT should be located ACPI-0325: *** Error: Looking for RSDT (RSDP->Rev < 2) ACPI-0181: *** Error: AcpiLoadTables: Could not load RSDT: AE_BAD_SIGNATURE ACPI-0213: *** Error: AcpiLoadTables: Could not load tables: AE_BAD_SIGNATURE ACPI: table load failed: AE_BAD_SIGNATURE ... [4] Additional information: >From "dmesg.boot": ... pci0: at device 7.3 (no driver attached) ... >From "pciconf -lv": ... none0@pci0:7:3: class=0x068000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x71138086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4/4E/4M Power Management Controller' class = bridge ... [5] I have tried also to work witout ACPI, compiling own-KERNEL with APM and enabling APM & APMD in "rc.conf", but during the boot it writes something like this: /dev/apm - not found /dev/apmctl - not found thanks in advance! From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 18 01:50:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC05716A415 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:50:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from linda-5.paradise.net.nz (linda-5.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9B743D46 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:50:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-2.paradise.net.nz (tclsnelb1-src-1.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.172]) by linda-5.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0J5R0019KMG3CQ@linda-5.paradise.net.nz> for freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:50:31 +1200 (NZST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (218-101-29-80.dsl.clear.net.nz [218.101.29.80]) by smtp-2.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2B0621AAD for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:45:56 +1200 (NZST) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:45:55 +1200 From: Mark Kirkwood To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Message-id: <450DFA53.2090006@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060704) Subject: RELENG_6 power button ignored after halt if ACPI enabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:50:35 -0000 I've just upgraded 2 machines to 6.2-PRERELEASE #1: Sat Sep 16 18:31:43 NZST 2006: - Supermicro P3TDER (Serverworks HE-SL Chipset, AMIBOIS) - Supermicro P3TDDE (VIA Apollo 266 chipset, AWARD) They both exhibit the same problem: If ACPI is enabled, shutting down via 'shutdown -h' appears to work properly (judging by the console output) - however to actually power off the machine the power button must be held until the power supply detects that the button has been down for 20s and turns us off. Poweroff via 'shutdown -p' and reboot via 'shutdown -r' all work ok. If I boot with ACPI disabled, then after 'shutdown -h', pressing the power button works in the usual way (i.e powers off after about 1-2 seconds). Given that the two machines are reasonably different, this looks like it might be common. I've left a verbose dmesg here: http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/markir/download/freebsd/dmesg-p3tder-acpi.verbose and acpi dump here: http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/markir/download/freebsd/root-p3tder.asl Note that these are for the HE-SL chipset system. I'm going to recompile the acpi module with ACPI_DEBUG and see what that produces. cheers Mark From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 18 02:02:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004CE16A40F for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 02:02:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from linda-1.paradise.net.nz (linda-1.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FEFA43D49 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 02:02:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (tclsnelb1-src-1.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.172]) by linda-1.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0J5R00GRJMZW6H@linda-1.paradise.net.nz> for freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:02:23 +1200 (NZST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (218-101-29-80.dsl.clear.net.nz [218.101.29.80]) by smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B8DC521B0 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:02:20 +1200 (NZST) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:02:18 +1200 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <450DFA53.2090006@paradise.net.nz> To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Message-id: <450DFE2A.6040308@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060704) References: <450DFA53.2090006@paradise.net.nz> Subject: Re: RELENG_6 power button ignored after halt if ACPI enabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 02:02:25 -0000 Mark Kirkwood wrote: > I've left a verbose dmesg here: > http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/markir/download/freebsd/dmesg-p3tder-acpi.verbose > > > and acpi dump here: > http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/markir/download/freebsd/root-p3tder.asl > The acpi related sysctls are: 118>hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S1 S4 S5 hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5 hw.acpi.sleep_button_state: S1 hw.acpi.lid_switch_state: NONE hw.acpi.standby_state: S1 hw.acpi.suspend_state: S3 hw.acpi.sleep_delay: 1 hw.acpi.s4bios: 0 hw.acpi.verbose: 1 hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot: 0 hw.acpi.handle_reboot: 0 hw.acpi.reset_video: 0 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_supported: C1/0 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_usage: 100.00% From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 18 02:55:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A19216A403 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 02:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from linda-1.paradise.net.nz (linda-1.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11CE43D45 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 02:55:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-2.paradise.net.nz (tclsnelb1-src-1.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.172]) by linda-1.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0J5R00IG0PGD0V@linda-1.paradise.net.nz> for freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:55:25 +1200 (NZST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (218-101-29-80.dsl.clear.net.nz [218.101.29.80]) by smtp-2.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BEBE3E20BE; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:55:25 +1200 (NZST) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:55:23 +1200 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <450DFA53.2090006@paradise.net.nz> To: Mark Kirkwood Message-id: <450E0A9B.6000909@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060704) References: <450DFA53.2090006@paradise.net.nz> Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_6 power button ignored after halt if ACPI enabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 02:55:27 -0000 Mark Kirkwood wrote: > > > Note that these are for the HE-SL chipset system. I'm going to recompile > the acpi module with ACPI_DEBUG and see what that produces. > Following the instructions in the handbook: # cd /sys/modules/acpi/acpi # make clean # make ACPI_DEBUG=1 # install acpi.ko /boot/kernel/acpi.ko Results in no acpi functionality at all upon reboot. The kernel loader seems to be unable to load the module: # kldload acpi.ko kldload: can't load acpi.ko: No such file or directory copying the original module over the top fixes the issue (as does rebuilding w/o ACPI_DEBUG): # cp /root/bug/acpi.ko.orig /boot/kernel/acpi.ko # kldload acpi.ko # Any ideas cheers Mark From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 18 03:25:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886A916A407 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 03:25:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from linda-5.paradise.net.nz (linda-5.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B80043D49 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 03:25:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (tclsnelb1-src-1.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.172]) by linda-5.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0J5R00427QTOYJ@linda-5.paradise.net.nz> for freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:25:01 +1200 (NZST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (218-101-29-80.dsl.clear.net.nz [218.101.29.80]) by smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DED585DC7 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:25:00 +1200 (NZST) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:24:58 +1200 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <450E0A9B.6000909@paradise.net.nz> To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Message-id: <450E118A.50802@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060704) References: <450DFA53.2090006@paradise.net.nz> <450E0A9B.6000909@paradise.net.nz> Subject: Re: RELENG_6 power button ignored after halt if ACPI enabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 03:25:02 -0000 Mark Kirkwood wrote: > > The kernel loader seems to be unable to load the module: > > # kldload acpi.ko > kldload: can't load acpi.ko: No such file or directory > This is caused by the error : link_elf: symbol db_readline undefined A quick search on Google shows I need to build a debug kernel with KDB included... From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 18 05:29:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4B916A407 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 05:29:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nate@root.org) Received: from ylpvm43.prodigy.net (ylpvm43-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C7243D46 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 05:29:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nate@root.org) X-ORBL: [71.139.46.150] Received: from [10.0.5.51] (ppp-71-139-46-150.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [71.139.46.150]) by ylpvm43.prodigy.net (8.13.8 out.dk.spool/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k8I5TSj1022668; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:29:28 -0400 Message-ID: <450E2EB6.2090908@root.org> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:29:26 -0700 From: Nate Lawson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Kirkwood References: <450DFA53.2090006@paradise.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <450DFA53.2090006@paradise.net.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_6 power button ignored after halt if ACPI enabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 05:29:32 -0000 Mark Kirkwood wrote: > I've just upgraded 2 machines to 6.2-PRERELEASE #1: Sat Sep 16 18:31:43 > NZST 2006: > > - Supermicro P3TDER (Serverworks HE-SL Chipset, AMIBOIS) > - Supermicro P3TDDE (VIA Apollo 266 chipset, AWARD) > > They both exhibit the same problem: > > If ACPI is enabled, shutting down via 'shutdown -h' appears to work > properly (judging by the console output) - however to actually power off > the machine the power button must be held until the power supply detects > that the button has been down for 20s and turns us off. > > Poweroff via 'shutdown -p' and reboot via 'shutdown -r' all work ok. > > If I boot with ACPI disabled, then after 'shutdown -h', pressing the > power button works in the usual way (i.e powers off after about 1-2 > seconds). > > Given that the two machines are reasonably different, this looks like it > might be common. > > I've left a verbose dmesg here: > http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/markir/download/freebsd/dmesg-p3tder-acpi.verbose > > > and acpi dump here: > http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/markir/download/freebsd/root-p3tder.asl > > > Note that these are for the HE-SL chipset system. I'm going to recompile > the acpi module with ACPI_DEBUG and see what that produces. Try setting this sysctl: sysctl hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot=1 It may be that you need acpi to stop managing your power button after halt. -- Nate From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 18 10:20:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC03B16A494 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from linda-3.paradise.net.nz (linda-3.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1071343D68 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:20:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-2.paradise.net.nz (tclsnelb1-src-1.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.172]) by linda-3.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0J5S0080KA2TOX@linda-3.paradise.net.nz> for freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:20:56 +1200 (NZST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (218-101-29-80.dsl.clear.net.nz [218.101.29.80]) by smtp-2.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D45C633280; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:12:08 +1200 (NZST) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:12:00 +1200 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <450E2EB6.2090908@root.org> To: Nate Lawson Message-id: <450E70F0.7060609@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060704) References: <450DFA53.2090006@paradise.net.nz> <450E2EB6.2090908@root.org> Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_6 power button ignored after halt if ACPI enabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:20:58 -0000 Nate Lawson wrote: > Mark Kirkwood wrote: >> I've just upgraded 2 machines to 6.2-PRERELEASE #1: Sat Sep 16 18:31:43 >> NZST 2006: >> >> - Supermicro P3TDER (Serverworks HE-SL Chipset, AMIBOIS) >> - Supermicro P3TDDE (VIA Apollo 266 chipset, AWARD) >> >> They both exhibit the same problem: >> >> If ACPI is enabled, shutting down via 'shutdown -h' appears to work >> properly (judging by the console output) - however to actually power off >> the machine the power button must be held until the power supply detects >> that the button has been down for 20s and turns us off. >> >> Poweroff via 'shutdown -p' and reboot via 'shutdown -r' all work ok. >> >> If I boot with ACPI disabled, then after 'shutdown -h', pressing the >> power button works in the usual way (i.e powers off after about 1-2 >> seconds). >> >> Given that the two machines are reasonably different, this looks like it >> might be common. >> >> I've left a verbose dmesg here: >> http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/markir/download/freebsd/dmesg-p3tder-acpi.verbose >> >> >> and acpi dump here: >> http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/markir/download/freebsd/root-p3tder.asl >> >> >> Note that these are for the HE-SL chipset system. I'm going to >> recompile the acpi module with ACPI_DEBUG and see what that produces. > > Try setting this sysctl: > sysctl hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot=1 > > It may be that you need acpi to stop managing your power button after halt. > Thanks Nate - that seems to do the trick. cheers Mark From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 18 11:08:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4F216A403 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6020943D4C for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:08:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (linimon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8IB80Pa040873 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:08:00 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8IB7xrx040869 for freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:07:59 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:07:59 GMT Message-Id: <200609181107.k8IB7xrx040869@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: linimon set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:08:00 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. 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Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o kern/67309 acpi zzz reboot computer (ACPI S3) o i386/69750 acpi Boot without ACPI failed on ASUS L5 o i386/73822 acpi [request] add thermal support to ACPI o kern/73823 acpi [feature request] acpi / power-on by timer support f kern/74030 acpi Unplugging AC causes battery % to stay locked at 98% f kern/90871 acpi ACPI problems with ASUS A8N-VM-CSM o kern/97383 acpi Volume buttons on IBM Thinkpad crash system with ACPI o kern/98171 acpi [acpi] ACPI 1304 / 0501 errors on Acer 5024WLMi Laptop 8 problems total. From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 18 13:12:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23FD16A407 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sandronoel@sympatico.ca) Received: from BAYC1-PASMTP06.bayc1.hotmail.com (bayc1-pasmtp06.bayc1.hotmail.com [65.54.191.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5E243D93 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:12:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sandronoel@sympatico.ca) Received: from [10.20.30.41] ([69.156.165.104]) by BAYC1-PASMTP06.bayc1.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 18 Sep 2006 06:15:01 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org From: Sandro Noel Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:12:06 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Sep 2006 13:15:01.0375 (UTC) FILETIME=[728C70F0:01C6DB24] Subject: Hard Drive wont spin down. X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:12:17 -0000 Greetings! i'm runing FreeBSD 6.1 STABLE I have it installed on a VIA EPIA SP 13000 as a file server. and the hard drives are connected to the Primary IDE controller. for some reason the drives NEVER spin down is there something i should do to to the computer to spin them down when he is iddle ? thank you Sandro. From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 18 13:13:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735FA16A403 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh1.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9943D43D4C for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:13:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh1.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k8IDDhIe088932; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 08:13:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <450E9B91.3090600@centtech.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 08:13:53 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060802) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sandro Noel References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1892/Mon Sep 18 06:53:36 2006 on mh1.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hard Drive wont spin down. X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:13:50 -0000 On 09/18/06 08:12, Sandro Noel wrote: > Greetings! > > i'm runing FreeBSD 6.1 STABLE > I have it installed on a VIA EPIA SP 13000 as a file server. > and the hard drives are connected to the Primary IDE controller. > > for some reason the drives NEVER spin down > is there something i should do to to the computer to spin them down > when he is iddle ? I think you'll need to use something like ataidle. However, on a file server, I'm not sure they will spin down very often. 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Talk to you soon!y>y>y>y>y>y> http://www.kyfron.net/a/?137 From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 21 13:32:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF8916A4E6 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:32:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wilkinsa@obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3056643D53 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:32:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wilkinsa@obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from ednmsw501.dsto.defence.gov.au (ednmsw501.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au with ESMTP id k8LDUQBQ015298 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:00:26 +0930 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by ednmsw501.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.17) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:02:15 +0930 Received: from ednex510.dsto.defence.gov.au (ednex510.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.170]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id k8LDTr713046; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:59:54 +0930 (CST) Received: from obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au ([203.6.60.208]) by ednex510.dsto.defence.gov.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC (6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:59:53 +0930 Received: from obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k8LDTL6K011163; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:29:21 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from wilkinsa@obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: (from wilkinsa@localhost) by obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.13.7/8.13.8/Submit) id k8LDTGON011162; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:29:16 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from wilkinsa) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:29:16 +0800 From: "Wilkinson, Alex" To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org, Mark Kirkwood Message-ID: <20060921132915.GE10582@obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org, Mark Kirkwood References: <450DFA53.2090006@paradise.net.nz> <450E2EB6.2090908@root.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <450E2EB6.2090908@root.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2006 13:29:53.0609 (UTC) FILETIME=[0599CB90:01C6DD82] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-7.0.0.1345-3.6.1039-14702.003 X-TM-AS-Result: No--1.682800-0.000000-31 Cc: Subject: Re: RELENG_6 power button ignored after halt if ACPI enabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:32:25 -0000 0n Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 10:29:26PM -0700, Nate Lawson wrote: >Try setting this sysctl: >sysctl hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot=1 > >It may be that you need acpi to stop managing your power button after halt. I dont get it ? I thought you needed ACPI to do the actual shutdown ? -aW From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 21 22:29:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED8416A40F for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nate@root.org) Received: from ylpvm12.prodigy.net (ylpvm12-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC4A43D46 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:28:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nate@root.org) X-ORBL: [67.119.74.222] Received: from [10.0.0.44] (adsl-67-119-74-222.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [67.119.74.222]) by ylpvm12.prodigy.net (8.13.7 out spool5000 dk/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k8LMS97P006613; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:28:10 -0400 Message-ID: <45131227.40107@root.org> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:28:55 -0700 From: Nate Lawson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org, Mark Kirkwood References: <450DFA53.2090006@paradise.net.nz> <450E2EB6.2090908@root.org> <20060921132915.GE10582@obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au> In-Reply-To: <20060921132915.GE10582@obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: RELENG_6 power button ignored after halt if ACPI enabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:29:00 -0000 Wilkinson, Alex wrote: > 0n Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 10:29:26PM -0700, Nate Lawson wrote: > > >Try setting this sysctl: > >sysctl hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot=1 > > > >It may be that you need acpi to stop managing your power button after halt. > > I dont get it ? I thought you needed ACPI to do the actual shutdown ? He isn't doing halt -p, he's doing "halt", then hitting the power button. If acpi is still enabled, it intercepts the button event but can't do anything because the OS is halted (i.e. no shutdown() available). If ACPI is disabled by that point, the BIOS handles it and powers off the system. This only applies to his system, it's not necessarily true in general. Some systems won't work if ACPI is disabled during this process, hence the sysctl. Just goes to show how complicated this all is, but it's not MY fault. :) -- Nate From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 21 23:12:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE0816A412 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from linda-5.paradise.net.nz (linda-5.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80CE43D67 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:12:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (tclsnelb1-src-1.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.172]) by linda-5.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0J5Y006SITSNOK@linda-5.paradise.net.nz> for freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:12:24 +1200 (NZST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (218-101-29-116.dsl.clear.net.nz [218.101.29.116]) by smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D319F2AF3; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:12:23 +1200 (NZST) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:12:21 +1200 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <45131227.40107@root.org> To: Nate Lawson Message-id: <45131C55.1020401@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060704) References: <450DFA53.2090006@paradise.net.nz> <450E2EB6.2090908@root.org> <20060921132915.GE10582@obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au> <45131227.40107@root.org> Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_6 power button ignored after halt if ACPI enabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:12:26 -0000 Nate Lawson wrote: > > He isn't doing halt -p, he's doing "halt", then hitting the power > button. If acpi is still enabled, it intercepts the button event but > can't do anything because the OS is halted (i.e. no shutdown() > available). If ACPI is disabled by that point, the BIOS handles it and > powers off the system. > > This only applies to his system, it's not necessarily true in general. > Some systems won't work if ACPI is disabled during this process, hence > the sysctl. > What was interesting is that this happened on two reasonably different systems: - Tualatin mobo, VIA chipset, AWARD bios - Tualatin mobo, Serverworks chipset, AMIBIOS bios leading me to suspect that there was more general impact for this issue. Given that there has not exactly been a tidal wave of mails to that effect :-), I guess it may only apply to circa 2002 Tualatin (or perhaps only Supermicro Tualatin) boards. Of course, the other possibility is that it *is* more general, but most folks are using 'shutdown -p' and are not noticing that the power button does not work.... Cheers Mark From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 22 14:08:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2654716A403 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:08:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0DDD43D5A for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:08:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k8ME85Qs012704; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 07:08:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@bunrab.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id k8ME85RZ012703; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 07:08:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 07:08:04 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: acpi@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060922140804.GA12665@bunrab.catwhisker.org> References: <20060916234642.GC698@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J/dobhs11T7y2rNN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060916234642.GC698@bunrab.catwhisker.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Subject: Re: Avoiding "WARNING: system temperature too high, shutting down soon!"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:08:06 -0000 --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 04:46:42PM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > I could use some help: I seem to overheat my laptop; I'd like to get > some idea of how to avoid the overheating, preferably while still > getting the work done. > ... I received several useful suggestions, and I have the problem mitigated while I await word from places that advertise that they will do laptop repairs. Eric Anderson pointed out "If the speed is off by 20%, you'd still hear the pitch difference, but the cooling would be inadequate for a P4M." This has encouraged me to actually get the problem resolved. :-} Pawel Worach suggested that using a sysctl to use passive cooling to throttle the CPU at or above a certain temperature, but wasn't sure that it worked on FreeBSD-STABLE. (I think it may: g1-18(6.2-P)[1] sysctl -a | grep PSV hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: -1 g1-18(6.2-P)[2]=20 but haven't needed to do that yet.) Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko discussed the issues at some length, and provided a patch to powerd(8) to cap the CPU frequency at or above a certain temperature. As with the "passive cooling," I have not yet needed that, so I haven't tested it. If there's interest in the patch to powerd(8), I could test it & submit a PR -- but I'd rather not if there's not much interest. What I did to mitigate the problem was to (finally) open up the laptop (by popping off the panel that has the power button -- this requires no tools on the Inspiron 8200 -- and blow out the dust that had accumulated on the heat exchanger fins with "canned air." The motherboard fan still makes the occasional "grinding" noise when it's under load for a while, and that's what I need to fix. I found a source for new fans for about $40, but the actual replacement appears to require access to the underside of the motherboard, which requires rather more disassembly of the machine than I really have appropriate facilities for -- thus the queries to the repair folks. And the "mitigation" done so far has permitted the machine to go through a daily regimen of: * Updating the local mirror of the CVS repository. * Updating RELENG_6 sources. * STABLE (RELENG_6) "make buildworld" & friends * portupgrade -a * Updating HEAD sources. * CURRENT (HEAD) "make buildworld" & friends * plus the usual new port installs & use of the machine without further problems. One thing I found that I thought was a bit odd: I ran a script to poll the current CPU frequency & the temperature every 10 seconds (& report the same, along with the date) to stdout. I started running that while I ran "make buildworld" and found that the temperature consistently ran about 10C lower with the lid closed. (I have the BIOS set for the machine to remain active when the lid is closed so I can start a "make buildworld," then put the machine in the car, commute to work, and have it do productive work during that time. Thanks again for all your help! Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Believe SORBS at your own risk: 63.193.123.122 has been static since Aug 19= 99. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkUT7kQACgkQmprOCmdXAD2acwCdGpmnLChdGxUebd4+UgcNDvsd Y3EAniMUp82N0Ue0VyqGi9b8K5bWsSYV =Lbsj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN-- From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 22 18:03:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9798716A616 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:03:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: from richard2.pil.net (mail.pil.net [207.7.198.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77F0743D45 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:03:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: (qmail 55444 invoked by uid 1825); 22 Sep 2006 18:03:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Sep 2006 18:03:37 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:03:37 -0400 (EDT) From: up@3.am X-X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Bug in 6.1 acpi? X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:03:40 -0000 (Please respond directly, as I am not subscribed) I've asked about this error message before, but this has gotten serious. Not sure if it's related, but this server keeps spontaneously having what appear to be power events every 13-40 hours or so. No errors or panic messages or core dumps. The system has dual power supplies and was rock stable running 4.X. The problem only started occuring after upgrading to 6.1-STABLE. Could it be related to this DMESG? : acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi: bad write to port 0x070 (8), val 0x43 acpi: bad read from port 0x071 (8) The hardware is an Intel L440GX+ MB with dual 1Ghz CPUs with SMP (I tried a kernel without SMP, but it didn't help), 1GB ECC RAM, 1GB Swap, Adaptec 2100 SCSI RAID level 1. It apppears to be lightly loaded in terms of CPU and RAM. This server is in production, so any advice would be greatly apppreciated. James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 22 18:08:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C6316A403 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:08:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EA943D60 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:08:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net ([12.207.12.9]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with ESMTP id <20060922180815m9100smptie>; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:08:19 +0000 Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k8MI8DKJ022544; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:08:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: (from brooks@localhost) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k8MI8C4V022543; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:08:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:08:12 -0500 From: Brooks Davis To: up@3.am Message-ID: <20060922180812.GA22517@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bug in 6.1 acpi? X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:08:21 -0000 --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [Please don't cross post] On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 02:03:37PM -0400, up@3.am wrote: >=20 > (Please respond directly, as I am not subscribed) >=20 > I've asked about this error message before, but this has gotten serious. > Not sure if it's related, but this server keeps spontaneously having what > appear to be power events every 13-40 hours or so. No errors or panic > messages or core dumps. >=20 > The system has dual power supplies and was rock stable running 4.X. The > problem only started occuring after upgrading to 6.1-STABLE. Could it be > related to this DMESG? : >=20 > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > acpi: bad write to port 0x070 (8), val 0x43 > acpi: bad read from port 0x071 (8) >=20 > The hardware is an Intel L440GX+ MB with dual 1Ghz CPUs with SMP (I tried > a kernel without SMP, but it didn't help), 1GB ECC RAM, 1GB Swap, Adaptec > 2100 SCSI RAID level 1. It apppears to be lightly loaded in terms of CPU > and RAM. Have you verified that you're running with the latest BIOS? On a system that old, there's a decent chance the ACPI implementation is buggy. Have you tried running with ACPI disabled? -- Brooks --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFFCaLXY6L6fI4GtQRAmCNAJwOd3cfVrYrUOFIJxDKj6pfatYsLwCg0Drx P6VxxUz3ldkzDTwz3casIO0= =OO12 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA-- From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 22 18:12:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FEE716A403 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:12:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: from richard2.pil.net (mail.pil.net [207.7.198.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A858C43D88 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:12:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: (qmail 62219 invoked by uid 1825); 22 Sep 2006 18:12:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Sep 2006 18:12:01 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:12:01 -0400 (EDT) From: up@3.am X-X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: Brooks Davis In-Reply-To: <20060922180812.GA22517@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bug in 6.1 acpi? X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:12:05 -0000 On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Brooks Davis wrote: > [Please don't cross post] > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 02:03:37PM -0400, up@3.am wrote: > > > > (Please respond directly, as I am not subscribed) > > > > I've asked about this error message before, but this has gotten serious. > > Not sure if it's related, but this server keeps spontaneously having what > > appear to be power events every 13-40 hours or so. No errors or panic > > messages or core dumps. > > > > The system has dual power supplies and was rock stable running 4.X. The > > problem only started occuring after upgrading to 6.1-STABLE. Could it be > > related to this DMESG? : > > > > acpi0: on motherboard > > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > > acpi: bad write to port 0x070 (8), val 0x43 > > acpi: bad read from port 0x071 (8) > > > > The hardware is an Intel L440GX+ MB with dual 1Ghz CPUs with SMP (I tried > > a kernel without SMP, but it didn't help), 1GB ECC RAM, 1GB Swap, Adaptec > > 2100 SCSI RAID level 1. It apppears to be lightly loaded in terms of CPU > > and RAM. > > Have you verified that you're running with the latest BIOS? On a system > that old, there's a decent chance the ACPI implementation is buggy. > Have you tried running with ACPI disabled? Yes, I did...still had the same problem. James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 22 18:17:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41A616A403 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:17:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lauasanf@wilderness.homeip.net) Received: from mail.ecommerce.com (mail.ecommerce.com [80.121.204.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C5BB243D73 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:17:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lauasanf@wilderness.homeip.net) Received: (qmail 16925 invoked by uid 399); 22 Sep 2006 18:32:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.31.215.2?) (80.121.204.1) by mail.opentransfer.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2006 18:32:38 -0000 Message-ID: <4514280A.5060702@wilderness.homeip.net> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:14:34 -0500 From: Drew Sanford User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060804) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: up@3.am References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bug in 6.1 acpi? X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:17:28 -0000 up@3.am wrote: > (Please respond directly, as I am not subscribed) > > I've asked about this error message before, but this has gotten serious. > Not sure if it's related, but this server keeps spontaneously having what > appear to be power events every 13-40 hours or so. No errors or panic > messages or core dumps. > > The system has dual power supplies and was rock stable running 4.X. The > problem only started occuring after upgrading to 6.1-STABLE. Could it be > related to this DMESG? : > > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > acpi: bad write to port 0x070 (8), val 0x43 > acpi: bad read from port 0x071 (8) > > The hardware is an Intel L440GX+ MB with dual 1Ghz CPUs with SMP (I tried > a kernel without SMP, but it didn't help), 1GB ECC RAM, 1GB Swap, Adaptec > 2100 SCSI RAID level 1. It apppears to be lightly loaded in terms of CPU > and RAM. > > This server is in production, so any advice would be greatly apppreciated. > > James, When you say power events, what exactly are we talking about here? Does the system just shut down, does it power down cleanly, or is it spontaneously rebooting? From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 22 18:21:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD2516A407 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: from richard2.pil.net (mail.pil.net [207.7.198.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD57D43D55 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:21:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: (qmail 70481 invoked by uid 1825); 22 Sep 2006 18:21:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Sep 2006 18:21:37 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:21:37 -0400 (EDT) From: up@3.am X-X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: Drew Sanford In-Reply-To: <4514280A.5060702@wilderness.homeip.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bug in 6.1 acpi? X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:21:40 -0000 On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Drew Sanford wrote: > up@3.am wrote: > > (Please respond directly, as I am not subscribed) > > > > I've asked about this error message before, but this has gotten serious. > > Not sure if it's related, but this server keeps spontaneously having what > > appear to be power events every 13-40 hours or so. No errors or panic > > messages or core dumps. > > > > The system has dual power supplies and was rock stable running 4.X. The > > problem only started occuring after upgrading to 6.1-STABLE. Could it be > > related to this DMESG? : > > > > acpi0: on motherboard > > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > > acpi: bad write to port 0x070 (8), val 0x43 > > acpi: bad read from port 0x071 (8) > > > > The hardware is an Intel L440GX+ MB with dual 1Ghz CPUs with SMP (I tried > > a kernel without SMP, but it didn't help), 1GB ECC RAM, 1GB Swap, Adaptec > > 2100 SCSI RAID level 1. It apppears to be lightly loaded in terms of CPU > > and RAM. > > > > This server is in production, so any advice would be greatly apppreciated. > > > > > > James, > When you say power events, what exactly are we talking about here? Does > the system just shut down, does it power down cleanly, or is it > spontaneously rebooting? Spontaneously rebooting. NOT cleanly, but so far, it has come back up every time. I'm not sure how high the risk is for serious file system damage in this situation, but it sure makes me nervous. James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 22 21:39:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B43716A40F for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 21:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885AD43D58 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 21:39:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k8MLdYe5016440; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:39:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:35:12 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609221735.13188.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:39:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/1927/Fri Sep 22 06:06:31 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: up@3.am Subject: Re: Bug in 6.1 acpi? X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 21:39:44 -0000 On Friday 22 September 2006 14:12, up@3.am wrote: > On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Brooks Davis wrote: > > > [Please don't cross post] > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 02:03:37PM -0400, up@3.am wrote: > > > > > > (Please respond directly, as I am not subscribed) > > > > > > I've asked about this error message before, but this has gotten serious. > > > Not sure if it's related, but this server keeps spontaneously having what > > > appear to be power events every 13-40 hours or so. No errors or panic > > > messages or core dumps. > > > > > > The system has dual power supplies and was rock stable running 4.X. The > > > problem only started occuring after upgrading to 6.1-STABLE. Could it be > > > related to this DMESG? : > > > > > > acpi0: on motherboard > > > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > > > acpi: bad write to port 0x070 (8), val 0x43 > > > acpi: bad read from port 0x071 (8) > > > > > > The hardware is an Intel L440GX+ MB with dual 1Ghz CPUs with SMP (I tried > > > a kernel without SMP, but it didn't help), 1GB ECC RAM, 1GB Swap, Adaptec > > > 2100 SCSI RAID level 1. It apppears to be lightly loaded in terms of CPU > > > and RAM. > > > > Have you verified that you're running with the latest BIOS? On a system > > that old, there's a decent chance the ACPI implementation is buggy. > > Have you tried running with ACPI disabled? > > Yes, I did...still had the same problem. Then it's not an ACPI problem. :) The bad read/write messages above I think you don't need to worry about either. Sounds more like a hardware issue of sorts. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 23 00:15:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD1416A403 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 00:15:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex.kovalenko@verizon.net) Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net (vms042pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694B443D46 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 00:15:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alex.kovalenko@verizon.net) Received: from RabbitsDen.RabbitsLawn.verizon.net ([70.21.206.89]) by vms042.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0J6000MAZRDA2TG1@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> for acpi@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:15:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:15:07 -0400 From: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" In-reply-to: <20060922140804.GA12665@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: David Wolfskill Message-id: <1158970507.1129.4.camel@RabbitsDen.RabbitsLawn.verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <20060916234642.GC698@bunrab.catwhisker.org> <20060922140804.GA12665@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Cc: acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Avoiding "WARNING: system temperature too high, shutting down soon!"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 00:15:16 -0000 On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 07:08 -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 04:46:42PM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > > I could use some help: I seem to overheat my laptop; I'd like to get > > some idea of how to avoid the overheating, preferably while still > > getting the work done. > > ... > > I received several useful suggestions, and I have the problem mitigated > while I await word from places that advertise that they will do laptop > repairs. > One thing I found that I thought was a bit odd: I ran a script to poll > the current CPU frequency & the temperature every 10 seconds (& report > the same, along with the date) to stdout. I started running that while > I ran "make buildworld" and found that the temperature consistently ran > about 10C lower with the lid closed. (I have the BIOS set for the > machine to remain active when the lid is closed so I can start a "make > buildworld," then put the machine in the car, commute to work, and have > it do productive work during that time. That might be a hint that source of your thermal troubles is graphics chipset or northbridge. On some systems they would have their own fan. 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From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 23 17:02:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0342916A40F for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ducrot@poupinou.org) Received: from poup.poupinou.org (poup.poupinou.org [195.101.94.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D38C43D4C for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:02:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ducrot@poupinou.org) Received: from ducrot by poup.poupinou.org with local (Exim) id 1GRAtN-0005oF-00; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:02:17 +0200 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:02:17 +0200 To: Nate Lawson Message-ID: <20060923170217.GX4945@poupinou.org> References: <450DFA53.2090006@paradise.net.nz> <450E2EB6.2090908@root.org> <20060921132915.GE10582@obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au> <45131227.40107@root.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45131227.40107@root.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Bruno Ducrot Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_6 power button ignored after halt if ACPI enabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:02:51 -0000 On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 03:28:55PM -0700, Nate Lawson wrote: > Wilkinson, Alex wrote: > > 0n Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 10:29:26PM -0700, Nate Lawson wrote: > > > > >Try setting this sysctl: > > >sysctl hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot=1 > > > > > >It may be that you need acpi to stop managing your power button after > > halt. > > > >I dont get it ? I thought you needed ACPI to do the actual shutdown ? > > He isn't doing halt -p, he's doing "halt", then hitting the power > button. If acpi is still enabled, it intercepts the button event but > can't do anything because the OS is halted (i.e. no shutdown() > available). If ACPI is disabled by that point, the BIOS handles it and > powers off the system. > > This only applies to his system, it's not necessarily true in general. > Some systems won't work if ACPI is disabled during this process, hence > the sysctl. > > Just goes to show how complicated this all is, but it's not MY fault. :) > When ACPI mode is enabled, the system should power off after 4 seconds IIRC. -- Bruno Ducrot -- Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? -- Don't know. Don't care. 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( [67.180.22.170]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e18sm483487qba.2006.09.23.10.30.07; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45156F21.1090300@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:30:09 -0700 From: "Dana H. Myers" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruno Ducrot References: <450DFA53.2090006@paradise.net.nz> <450E2EB6.2090908@root.org> <20060921132915.GE10582@obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au> <45131227.40107@root.org> <20060923170217.GX4945@poupinou.org> In-Reply-To: <20060923170217.GX4945@poupinou.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_6 power button ignored after halt if ACPI enabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:30:30 -0000 Bruno Ducrot wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 03:28:55PM -0700, Nate Lawson wrote: >> Wilkinson, Alex wrote: >>> 0n Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 10:29:26PM -0700, Nate Lawson wrote: >>> >>> >Try setting this sysctl: >>> >sysctl hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot=1 >>> > >>> >It may be that you need acpi to stop managing your power button after >>> halt. >>> >>> I dont get it ? I thought you needed ACPI to do the actual shutdown ? >> He isn't doing halt -p, he's doing "halt", then hitting the power >> button. If acpi is still enabled, it intercepts the button event but >> can't do anything because the OS is halted (i.e. no shutdown() >> available). If ACPI is disabled by that point, the BIOS handles it and >> powers off the system. >> >> This only applies to his system, it's not necessarily true in general. >> Some systems won't work if ACPI is disabled during this process, hence >> the sysctl. > > When ACPI mode is enabled, the system should power off after 4 seconds IIRC. Not exactly; regardless of ACPI mode, the system should always power-off if the power button is held down for 4 seconds (though some systems have been known to require longer than 4 seconds). This is a hardware over-ride in the chipset to deal with the case that software fails (whether it's BIOS/SMI code in legacy mode, or the OS/BIOS/SMI code in ACPI mode). Dana From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 23 19:44:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD9916A407; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:44:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nate@root.org) Received: from ylpvm29.prodigy.net (ylpvm29-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFA543D53; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:44:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nate@root.org) X-ORBL: [71.139.46.150] Received: from [10.0.5.50] (ppp-71-139-46-150.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [71.139.46.150]) by ylpvm29.prodigy.net (8.13.7 out spool5000 dk/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k8NJhBD8024798; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:43:11 -0400 Message-ID: <45158E79.2030906@root.org> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 12:43:53 -0700 From: Nate Lawson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin References: <200609221735.13188.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200609221735.13188.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org, up@3.am Subject: Re: Bug in 6.1 acpi? X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:44:01 -0000 John Baldwin wrote: > On Friday 22 September 2006 14:12, up@3.am wrote: >> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Brooks Davis wrote: >> >>> [Please don't cross post] >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 02:03:37PM -0400, up@3.am wrote: >>>> (Please respond directly, as I am not subscribed) >>>> >>>> I've asked about this error message before, but this has gotten serious. >>>> Not sure if it's related, but this server keeps spontaneously having > what >>>> appear to be power events every 13-40 hours or so. No errors or panic >>>> messages or core dumps. >>>> >>>> The system has dual power supplies and was rock stable running 4.X. The >>>> problem only started occuring after upgrading to 6.1-STABLE. Could it > be >>>> related to this DMESG? : >>>> >>>> acpi0: on motherboard >>>> acpi0: Power Button (fixed) >>>> acpi: bad write to port 0x070 (8), val 0x43 >>>> acpi: bad read from port 0x071 (8) >>>> >>>> The hardware is an Intel L440GX+ MB with dual 1Ghz CPUs with SMP (I > tried >>>> a kernel without SMP, but it didn't help), 1GB ECC RAM, 1GB Swap, > Adaptec >>>> 2100 SCSI RAID level 1. It apppears to be lightly loaded in terms of > CPU >>>> and RAM. >>> Have you verified that you're running with the latest BIOS? On a system >>> that old, there's a decent chance the ACPI implementation is buggy. >>> Have you tried running with ACPI disabled? >> Yes, I did...still had the same problem. > > Then it's not an ACPI problem. :) The bad read/write messages above I think > you don't need to worry about either. Sounds more like a hardware issue of > sorts. > I don't know of any acpi issue that could cause spontaneous reboots. You can try booting with acpi disabled to see if it helps: hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" If that helps, we can try to debug acpi more. My guess is it won't change anything. The bad read/write messages are harmless since we don't use the RTC. They're more for the future if we do start using it. -- Nate