From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 16:29:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CDE16A4C2 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:29:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [62.245.70.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C184743D4C for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:28:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from dagan.sigpipe.cz (dagan.sigpipe.cz [10.9.8.90]) by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22B71F87BF0 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:28:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dagan.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 183DF2C96BD; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:28:59 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:28:58 +0000 From: Roman Neuhauser To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061015182858.GA1701@dagan.sigpipe.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Subject: Supermicro H8DCE-HTe X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:29:02 -0000 Hello, does anyone run FreeBSD on Supermicro H8DCE-HTe? http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron/nForce/H8DCE-HTe.cfm TIA for any info. -- How many Vietnam vets does it take to screw in a light bulb? You don't know, man. You don't KNOW. Cause you weren't THERE. http://bash.org/?255991 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 17:07:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82D716A40F for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:07:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [62.245.70.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6411143D69 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:07:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from dagan.sigpipe.cz (dagan.sigpipe.cz [10.9.8.90]) by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E061F87BF0 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:07:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dagan.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3621F2C908E; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:07:54 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:07:54 +0000 From: Roman Neuhauser To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061015190754.GC1159@dagan.sigpipe.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Subject: Supermicro H8DCE-HTe X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:07:54 -0000 Hello, does anyone run FreeBSD on Supermicro H8DCE-HTe? http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron/nForce/H8DCE-HTe.cfm TIA for any info. -- How many Vietnam vets does it take to screw in a light bulb? You don't know, man. You don't KNOW. Cause you weren't THERE. http://bash.org/?255991 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 06:43:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE8716A403; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:43:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9322043D46; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:43:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9G6hZcM075451; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:43:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd-current.sentex.ca (freebsd-current.sentex.ca [64.7.128.98]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9G6hYUh024383; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:43:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: by freebsd-current.sentex.ca (Postfix, from userid 666) id D9F447305F; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:43:33 -0400 (EDT) Sender: FreeBSD Tinderbox From: FreeBSD Tinderbox To: FreeBSD Tinderbox , , Precedence: bulk Message-Id: <20061016064333.D9F447305F@freebsd-current.sentex.ca> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:43:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.1, clamav-milter version 0.88.1 on clamscanner3 X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: [releng_6 tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:43:36 -0000 TB --- 2006-10-16 05:15:49 - tinderbox 2.3 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2006-10-16 05:15:49 - starting RELENG_6 tinderbox run for amd64/amd64 TB --- 2006-10-16 05:15:50 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2006-10-16 05:16:31 - checking out the source tree TB --- 2006-10-16 05:16:31 - cd /tinderbox/RELENG_6/amd64/amd64 TB --- 2006-10-16 05:16:31 - /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -rRELENG_6 src TB --- 2006-10-16 05:29:42 - building world (CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe) TB --- 2006-10-16 05:29:42 - cd /src TB --- 2006-10-16 05:29:42 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4.1: building includes >>> stage 4.2: building libraries >>> stage 4.3: make dependencies >>> stage 4.4: building everything >>> stage 5.1: building 32 bit shim libraries TB --- 2006-10-16 06:43:33 - generating LINT kernel config TB --- 2006-10-16 06:43:33 - cd /src/sys/amd64/conf TB --- 2006-10-16 06:43:33 - /usr/bin/make -B LINT TB --- 2006-10-16 06:43:33 - building LINT kernel (COPTFLAGS=-O2 -pipe) TB --- 2006-10-16 06:43:33 - cd /src TB --- 2006-10-16 06:43:33 - /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT >>> Kernel build for LINT started on Mon Oct 16 06:43:33 UTC 2006 >>> stage 1: configuring the kernel -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /src/sys/amd64/conf; PATH=/obj/amd64/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/obj/amd64/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/obj/amd64/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/obj/amd64/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/obj/amd64/src/tmp/usr/bin:/obj/amd64/src/tmp/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin config -d /obj/amd64/src/sys/LINT /src/sys/amd64/conf/LINT ../../conf/files: compile-with must be optional, mandatory or standard *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. TB --- 2006-10-16 06:43:33 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2006-10-16 06:43:33 - ERROR: failed to build lint kernel TB --- 2006-10-16 06:43:33 - tinderbox aborted TB --- 1.06 user 3.01 system 5263.66 real From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 11:08:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A25E16A494 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:08:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF7943D66 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:08:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (linimon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9GB8C9U028071 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:08:12 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9GB8AId028067 for freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:08:11 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:08:11 GMT Message-Id: <200610161108.k9GB8AId028067@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: linimon set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:08:13 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o amd64/89202 amd64 [ufs] [panic] Kernel crash when accessing filesystem w 1 problem total. Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o amd64/69704 amd64 ext2/ext3 unstable in amd64 o amd64/69707 amd64 IPC32 dont work OK in amd64 FreeBSD o amd64/71644 amd64 [panic] amd64 5.3-BETA4 crash when heavy load o amd64/73252 amd64 ad6: WARNING - READ_DMA interrupt was seen but timeout o amd64/73322 amd64 [msdosfs] [hang] unarchiving /etc to msdosfs locks up o amd64/73650 amd64 5.3-release panics on boot o amd64/73775 amd64 Kernel panic (trap 12) when booting with (not from!) P o amd64/74747 amd64 System panic on shutdown when process will not die o amd64/76136 amd64 system halts before reboot o amd64/76336 amd64 racoon/setkey -D cases instant "Fatal Trap 12: Page fa o amd64/78406 amd64 [panic]AMD64 w/ SCSI: issue 'rm -r /usr/ports' and sys o amd64/78848 amd64 [sis] sis driver on FreeBSD 5.x does not work on amd64 o amd64/80114 amd64 kldload snd_ich causes interrupt storm when ACPI is en o amd64/80691 amd64 amd64 kernel hangs on load o amd64/81037 amd64 SATA problem o amd64/81602 amd64 SATA crashes with parallel pcm access o amd64/82425 amd64 [fxp] fxp0: device timeout, fxp interface dies on 5.4/ o amd64/82555 amd64 Kernel Panic - after i connect to my "amd64" from anot o amd64/83005 amd64 Memory Occupied during installation of the FreeBSD 5.4 o amd64/84832 amd64 Installation crashes just at boot AMD64/ Version 5.4 o amd64/84930 amd64 [msdosfs] something wrong with msdosfs on amd64 o amd64/85431 amd64 AMD64 has short but temporary freezes (hangups) on Sun o amd64/85451 amd64 [hang] 6.0-BETA3 lockups on AMD64 (PREEMPTION only) o amd64/86080 amd64 [radeon] [hang] radeon DRI causes system hang on amd64 o amd64/86503 amd64 [atapicam] [panic] k3b crash the system like hardware o amd64/87156 amd64 First Installation: Kernel crashes o amd64/87258 amd64 [smp] [boot] cannot boot with SMP and Areca ARC-1160 r o amd64/87305 amd64 [smp] Dual Opteron / FreeBSD 5 & 6 / powerd results in o amd64/87316 amd64 [vge] "vge0 attach returned 6" on FreeBSD 6.0-RC1 amd6 o amd64/87348 amd64 amd64+smp+startkde always crashing o amd64/87472 amd64 I downloaded 5.4 and went to install it, but it keeps o amd64/87514 amd64 6.0-CURRENT freezes machine using >4GB on AMD64 archit o amd64/87689 amd64 [powerd] [hang] powerd hangs SMP Opteron 244 5-STABLE o amd64/87977 amd64 [busdma] [panic] amd64 busdma dflt_lock called (by ata o amd64/88299 amd64 swapcontext fails with errno 0 f amd64/88568 amd64 [panic] 6.0-RELEASE install cd does not boot with usb o amd64/88790 amd64 kernel panic on first boot (after the FreeBSD installa o amd64/89501 amd64 System crashes on install using ftp on local subnet o amd64/89503 amd64 Cant Boot Installation Disk o amd64/89546 amd64 [geom] GEOM error o amd64/89549 amd64 [amd64] nve timeouts on 6.0-release o amd64/89550 amd64 [amd64] sym0: VTOBUS failed (6.0 Release) o amd64/89968 amd64 [ata] Asus A8N-E MediaShield RAID problem (read-only s o amd64/91405 amd64 [asr] [panic] Kernel panic caused by asr on 6.0-amd64 o amd64/91492 amd64 BTX halted o amd64/92337 amd64 [em] FreeBSD 6.0 Release Intel Pro 1000 MT em1 no buff o amd64/92889 amd64 [libc] xdr double buffer overflow o amd64/92991 amd64 FreeBSD(amd64) freezes when primary disk is on a SiI 3 o amd64/93961 amd64 [busdma] Problem in bounce buffer handling in sys/amd6 o amd64/94677 amd64 panic in amd64 install at non-root user creation o amd64/94989 amd64 BTX Halts on Sun Fire X2100 w/6.1-BETA4 (amd64) and 5. f amd64/95167 amd64 driver for SuperMicro H8DAR-T (Adaptec AIC-8130: (Marv o amd64/95414 amd64 kernel crashes during install o amd64/95888 amd64 kernel: ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying on HP DL140G o amd64/96400 amd64 FreeBSD 6.0 Bootin Conflict between Broadcom on-broad o amd64/97075 amd64 Panic, Trap 12 o amd64/97337 amd64 xorg reboots system if dri module is enabled o amd64/99561 amd64 system hangs in FreeBSD AMD64 when writting ext2fs o amd64/102122 amd64 6.1-RELEASE amd64 Install Media panics on boot. o amd64/104311 amd64 ports/wine should be installable on amd64 60 problems total. Non-critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o amd64/61209 amd64 ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range o amd64/63188 amd64 [ti] ti(4) broken on amd64 o amd64/69705 amd64 IPC problem (msq_queues) o amd64/74608 amd64 [mpt] [hang] mpt hangs 5 minutes when booting o amd64/74811 amd64 [nfs] df, nfs mount, negative Avail -> 32/64-bit confu o amd64/87882 amd64 emu10k1 and APCI on amd64 is just noisy o amd64/88730 amd64 kernel panics during booting from the installation CD o amd64/91195 amd64 FreeBSD 6.0(amd64) and Asus A8R-MVP a amd64/92527 amd64 [ciphy.c] no driver for "CICADA VSC 8201 Gigabit LAN P o amd64/93002 amd64 amd64 (6.0) coredumps at unpredictable times a amd64/93090 amd64 NIC on GA-K8NF-9 motherboard is recognized, but does n o amd64/95282 amd64 [ed] fix ed for RELENG_5 amd64 so that it has network o amd64/97489 amd64 nForce 410 ATA controller dma time out f amd64/98346 amd64 [kbd] caps lock and other keys are always illuminated o amd64/100326 amd64 /dev/fd0 not created after installation FreeBSD 6.1 AM o amd64/100347 amd64 No hardware support Silicon Image SiI 3132 o amd64/100348 amd64 No hardware support: Marvell 88E8053 Yukon PCI-E Gigab o amd64/100838 amd64 FreeBSD 6.0/6.1 kernel panics when booting with EIST e o amd64/101132 amd64 Incorrect cpu idle and usage statistics in top and sys o amd64/101248 amd64 vi(1) can crash in ncurses(3) on amd64 o amd64/102716 amd64 ex with no argument in an xterm gets SIGSEGV f amd64/102975 amd64 NIC unknown o amd64/103259 amd64 Cannot use ataraid on nvidia nForce4+amd64 23 problems total. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 20:39:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738CE16A4CA for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:39:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listacct@tulsaconnect.com) Received: from cgpro2.tulsaconnect.com (pop3.tulsaconnect.com [65.38.1.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EAD943D5D for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:38:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from listacct@tulsaconnect.com) Received: from [65.38.0.2] (HELO [192.168.30.3]) by cgpro2.tulsaconnect.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.8) with ESMTPS id 221558903 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:38:23 -0500 Message-ID: <4533EDC7.1010203@tulsaconnect.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:38:31 -0500 From: TCIS List Acct User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:39:29 -0000 I'm running 6.2-BETA2/amd64 and received the following error when trying to run a 32-bit app: ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 not found I've done a few mailing list searches and see talk relating to missing libs, but I don't know how to install/compile these libs on 6.2-BETA2. Any pointers would be appreciated. TIA. --Mike From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 00:05:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D353D16A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:05:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kgunders@teamcool.net) Received: from koyukuk.teamcool.net (koyukuk.teamcool.net [209.161.34.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F3243D55 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:05:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kgunders@teamcool.net) Received: from koyukuk.teamcool.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by koyukuk.teamcool.net (TeamCool Rocks) with ESMTP id 9447CF881 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:05:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from shredder.teamcool.net (unknown [192.168.1.58]) by koyukuk.teamcool.net (TeamCool Rocks) with ESMTP id 4B468F87E for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:05:13 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:05:13 -0600 From: Ken Gunderson To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20061016180513.4fe62328.kgunders@teamcool.net> In-Reply-To: <20061015190754.GC1159@dagan.sigpipe.cz> References: <20061015190754.GC1159@dagan.sigpipe.cz> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: Supermicro H8DCE-HTe X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:05:15 -0000 On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:07:54 +0000 Roman Neuhauser wrote: > Hello, > > does anyone run FreeBSD on Supermicro H8DCE-HTe? > http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron/nForce/H8DCE-HTe.cfm > > TIA for any info. Checking here I note that a recent versions of Linux have been "minimally" tested: so it might be worth rolling the dice. You may be able to get an evaluation unit from your distributor. -- Best regards, Ken Gunderson "The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." (Thomas Jefferson) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 02:02:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B3616A412 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kgunders@teamcool.net) Received: from koyukuk.teamcool.net (koyukuk.teamcool.net [209.161.34.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0694F43D5A for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:02:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kgunders@teamcool.net) Received: from koyukuk.teamcool.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by koyukuk.teamcool.net (TeamCool Rocks) with ESMTP id 032E9F887; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:02:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from shredder.teamcool.net (unknown [192.168.1.58]) by koyukuk.teamcool.net (TeamCool Rocks) with ESMTP id D383CF881; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:02:08 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:02:08 -0600 From: Ken Gunderson To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20061016200208.3e7ab69f.kgunders@teamcool.net> In-Reply-To: <452C0286.000005.20759@pantene.yandex.ru> References: <452C0286.000005.20759@pantene.yandex.ru> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: alecn2002@yandex.ru Subject: Re: Fw: To amd64 or not to amd64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:02:10 -0000 On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 00:28:54 +0400 (MSD) "alecn2002" wrote: > > Well, probably this question was discussed here many times, but the last thread about "transiting from i386 to amd64" dated year 2004, so it's very posible things change since that time... > > So, > > I've just upgraded my home comp from AMD Sempron to Athlon64. Only CPU upgrade, nothing else. > > I've booted my old good i386-arched FreeBSD 6.1 and it looks like it works fine. > The question is: will I have any benefits if I'll move to amd64 system, or it's safer and better to stay with i386 arch? > > About 50% of time my children use it to watch movies (DVD, DivX, MPEG-4). > >From the rest I use it for working at home (RadRails, KDevelop, a lot of C/C++ compilation), and my wife use it to access Internet and use OpenOffice. > > Problem-free operation and stability have precedense for me over system speed. Hi Alec: You've gotten some good responses already but I'll add mine fwiw. I've been using FreeBSD for both server and workstation use for a long, long time now. As of late I tend to run amd64 on servers and i386 on workstations. Sure you can make things like video codecs, OO, etc. working w/amd64 on the desktop but you will spend less effort doing so with i386. From what you describe it doesn't sound like you're going to need to worry about 3GB+ of ram or computationally intensive apps. If you do decide you want to explore amd64 the suggestion to get a second identical drive was a good one. Have fun:) -- Best regards, Ken Gunderson "The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." (Thomas Jefferson) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 03:29:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284C416A417 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:29:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Rob@Logan.com) Received: from logan.com (rob.com [207.170.160.160]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01DE43D72 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:29:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Rob@Logan.com) X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 1 [X] Received: from [24.51.79.189] (account rob HELO [10.1.1.3]) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.0) with ESMTPSA id 1480050; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:29:15 -0400 Message-ID: <45343FFB.9050105@Logan.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:29:15 -0400 From: Rob Logan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20060910 SeaMonkey/1.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <20061015182858.GA1701@dagan.sigpipe.cz> In-Reply-To: <20061015182858.GA1701@dagan.sigpipe.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Supermicro H8DCE-HTe X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:29:21 -0000 I have the first version without the built in video http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron/nForce/H8DCE.cfm it booted ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/6.1/6.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso and found ad10 ad12 ad14 ad16 ad18 ad2 ad4 ad6 ad8 for disk and nve0 and nve1 for gigE and em0 and em1 on a PCI card I run opensolaris on in normally From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 04:41:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564C716A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:41:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saltmiser@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40CB43D5A for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:41:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from saltmiser@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so2540424pye for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:41:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=khZahS/pXgtaKAr66/wPBa5tE3CN2ViqqIceF5DQUFMYBPjpRietDtqfR7Myf1peMioT52W+Pi03NGvflP4eFfZyfohtjJ5D9VtwWCdZgO8Tq9DQpLB1xKNLcreXni3kTQ8Un5oyHj8JBEXtms1jWFS3RX+GZzFi9P61bR46sSw= Received: by 10.35.66.13 with SMTP id t13mr14415657pyk; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.111.10 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37f72b1f0610162141o28ad6037s7b10cfc5b5f42d4f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:41:33 -0400 From: "Jim Capozzoli" To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Status of NX bit support X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:41:43 -0000 I know this topic was covered 6 months ago, but I'm wondering if anything changed between now and then as far as the status of the NX bit goes? If it hasn't changed, then why? If every other OS has support for the NX bit, then why doesn't freebsd? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-amd64/2006-April/007931.html -- Jim Capozzoli From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 12:03:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FD016A407 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [62.245.70.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F25A43D55 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:03:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from dagan.sigpipe.cz (dagan.sigpipe.cz [10.9.8.90]) by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FF41F87BF0; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:03:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dagan.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 31FC62C9161; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:03:58 +0000 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Ken Gunderson Message-ID: <20061017140358.GA28319@dagan.sigpipe.cz> References: <20061015190754.GC1159@dagan.sigpipe.cz> <20061016180513.4fe62328.kgunders@teamcool.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061016180513.4fe62328.kgunders@teamcool.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Supermicro H8DCE-HTe X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:03:47 -0000 # kgunders@teamcool.net / 2006-10-16 18:05:13 -0600: > On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:07:54 +0000 > Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > does anyone run FreeBSD on Supermicro H8DCE-HTe? > > http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron/nForce/H8DCE-HTe.cfm > > > > TIA for any info. > > Checking here I note that a recent versions of Linux have been > "minimally" tested: > > Yeah I saw the matrix. I asked precisely because they mention "minimal" testing. I'm more interested in what they don't say. :) > so it might be worth rolling the dice. Well, it's quite a purchase, so I'd like to have as much confidence in the stuff as possible (before I shell out the money of course :). These are things I'm concerned about: Does X (2D applications plus the occasional mplayer) work with two 7950GT cards in SLI (assuming a single 7950GT works in the first place, and since I've paid little attention to nVidia until now, I'm not sure about the level of support)? Do the onboard NICs "just work", or do they occasionally panic the system on boot or upon "ifconfig media ...", or sometimes miss patting watchdogs? Anything I should look out for in my choice of memory? Supermicro lists e. g. Kingston's ValueRAM (KVR) ECC models, should I expect the board to work with the faster HyperX (KRX) ECC modules, or is there a gotcha waiting to bite me? Supermicro recommends populating both CPU sockets for access to all PCI-X slots, but the board has only PCI and PCI-Express. WTF? (I'm waiting for their support to answer my query on this.) > You may be able to get an evaluation unit from your distributor. Around here and with the small volume of the deal (a single board)... not bloody likely. -- How many Vietnam vets does it take to screw in a light bulb? You don't know, man. You don't KNOW. Cause you weren't THERE. http://bash.org/?255991 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 12:35:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3B716A4C2 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fe-return-1161088483.1630-freebsd-amd64=freebsd.org@koma.free.de) Received: from smtp.free.de (smtp.free.de [193.28.225.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090E043D46 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:35:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fe-return-1161088483.1630-freebsd-amd64=freebsd.org@koma.free.de) Received: (qmail 92298 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2006 12:35:11 -0000 Received: from anarch.free.de ([193.28.225.69]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.free.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Oct 2006 12:35:11 -0000 Received: from koma.free.de by anarch.free.de with bsmtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m1GZoA0-000OJIC; Tue, 17 Oct 106 14:35 MET DST Received: (qmail 1631 invoked by uid 1001); 17 Oct 2006 14:34:43 +0200 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:34:43 +0200 From: Frank Ellert To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061017123443.GA1165@koma.free.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, Frank Ellert Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Accept-Language: de, en Content-Language: en Organization: =?utf-8?B?4pieIERpZSDDvGJsaWNoZW4gVmVyZMOk?= =?utf-8?Q?chtigen?= X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 2006 by Frank Ellert -- All rights reserved. X-PGP-Key: (DSA), (RSA) Subject: 6.2-PRERELEASE/amd64 crashed by fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:35:14 -0000 Hi! My FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE amd64 box reboots on: cd /usr/ports/x11-fonts/bitmap-fonts;make Or even: fetch ftp://ftp.jpl.org/pub/elisp/bitmap/bitmap-fonts-1.0.tar.gz Any ideas? (Please cc to me since I'm not yet subscribed to freebsd-amd64.) Frank From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 15:30:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F55D16A4D8 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:30:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C653A43DD3 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:28:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id o37so537479nzf for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:28:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=I5WhHNFeZ68Aj/yeSkOH65LUAPGiI9uf5IjcyzCdtv5iun99N+v5O5shcskU78BXuD7AeFEaTqgqKgG0arWkZM33lZx77ctwsVa8N1oD+5yJjGaFDlPDk72q+7AsgK6VmVXL6eODC2+HS9Czj2kSU3+4qkEjXbkQoiytJ3F3K7M= Received: by 10.64.233.12 with SMTP id f12mr12429462qbh; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.179.8 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <84dead720610170828v5a169ce4nddb94b8cd0364e3e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:58:52 +0530 From: "Joseph Koshy" To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, "Frank Ellert" In-Reply-To: <20061017123443.GA1165@koma.free.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061017123443.GA1165@koma.free.de> Cc: Subject: Re: 6.2-PRERELEASE/amd64 crashed by fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:30:17 -0000 > My FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE amd64 box reboots on: > > cd /usr/ports/x11-fonts/bitmap-fonts;make > > Or even: > > fetch ftp://ftp.jpl.org/pub/elisp/bitmap/bitmap-fonts-1.0.tar.gz > > Any ideas? You'll need to get a kernel dump or at the least a backtrace before you can proceed further into your investigation: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html -- FreeBSD Volunteer, http://people.freebsd.org/~jkoshy/ From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 18:18:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8835416A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:18:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rax-rax@yandex.ru) Received: from webmail11.yandex.ru (webmail11.yandex.ru [213.180.200.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E9B43D45 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:18:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rax-rax@yandex.ru) Received: from YAMAIL (webmail11.yandex.ru) by mail.yandex.ru id ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:17:57 +0400 Received: from [85.141.141.116] ([85.141.141.116]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:17:57 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:17:57 +0400 (MSD) From: "Victor Ploshykhin" Sender: rax-rax@yandex.ru Message-Id: <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] Errors-To: rax-rax@yandex.ru To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Source-Ip: 85.141.141.116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: video card for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rax-rax@yandex.ru List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:18:08 -0000 Hi! I have FreeBSD 6.1 on AMD64. Unfortunaly there are no nvidia drivers for video card in my computer. So I will put another one. Could you tell me what video cards are REALLY supported in this configuration. Thanks in advance! From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 18:55:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCE716A4C8 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1161975338.683a94@mired.org) Received: from mired.org (vpn.mired.org [66.92.153.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38B7D43D67 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:55:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1161975338.683a94@mired.org) Received: (qmail 71277 invoked by uid 1001); 17 Oct 2006 18:55:38 -0000 Received: by bhuda.mired.org (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1001); Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:55:38 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17717.10025.959024.108597@bhuda.mired.org> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:55:37 -0400 To: rax-rax@yandex.ru In-Reply-To: <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru> References: <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 19) "Constant Variable" XEmacs Lucid X-Primary-Address: mwm@mired.org X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`; h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.0.3 (Seattle Slew) From: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: video card for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:55:23 -0000 In <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru>, Victor Ploshykhin typed: > I have FreeBSD 6.1 on AMD64. Unfortunaly there are no nvidia drivers for video card in my computer. So I will put another one. > Could you tell me what video cards are REALLY supported in this configuration. For what purpose? I used a pair of nvidia cards on my amd64 desktop for months. I've since discovered that the driver I was using didn't properly support either large LCDs or dual heads (though the latter may have been a configuration problem on my part). I bought an ATI card, and now have said large LCD as one of the two heads attached to the card. ATI, unlike NVidia, supports open source OS's properly, by releasing docs and/or driver source for their cards. http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 19:08:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C9316A407 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars.tunkrans@bredband.net) Received: from mxfep03.bredband.com (mxfep03.bredband.com [195.54.107.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9E143D46 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:08:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars.tunkrans@bredband.net) Received: from ironport.bredband.com ([195.54.107.82] [195.54.107.82]) by mxfep03.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20061017190810.FWBY18511.mxfep03.bredband.com@ironport.bredband.com> for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:08:10 +0200 Received: from c-b8a770d5.035-199-73746f23.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO [192.168.245.75]) ([213.112.167.184]) by ironport.bredband.com with ESMTP; 17 Oct 2006 21:08:10 +0200 Message-ID: <45352B85.7030907@bredband.net> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:14:13 +0200 From: "Lars. Tunkrans" User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060515) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Meyer References: <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru> <17717.10025.959024.108597@bhuda.mired.org> In-Reply-To: <17717.10025.959024.108597@bhuda.mired.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rax-rax@yandex.ru, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: video card for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:08:15 -0000 Mike Meyer wrote: > > ATI, unlike NVidia, supports open source OS's properly, by releasing > docs and/or driver source for their cards. > > Really , where did you find a FreeBSD driver for ATI or for that matter an OpenSolaris driver ? I do have a Acer ferrari Athlon 64 Laptop with Radeon 9600 and would love to get 3D support on a NON-LINUX opensource OS. //Lars From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 19:21:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E907316A407 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1161976885.025a0d@mired.org) Received: from mired.org (vpn.mired.org [66.92.153.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46FA743D5E for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:21:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1161976885.025a0d@mired.org) Received: (qmail 71745 invoked by uid 1001); 17 Oct 2006 19:21:25 -0000 Received: by bhuda.mired.org (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1001); Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:21:25 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17717.11573.134225.570850@bhuda.mired.org> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:21:25 -0400 To: "Lars. Tunkrans" In-Reply-To: <45352B85.7030907@bredband.net> References: <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru> <17717.10025.959024.108597@bhuda.mired.org> <45352B85.7030907@bredband.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 19) "Constant Variable" XEmacs Lucid X-Primary-Address: mwm@mired.org X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`; h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.0.3 (Seattle Slew) From: Mike Meyer Cc: rax-rax@yandex.ru, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: video card for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:21:06 -0000 In <45352B85.7030907@bredband.net>, Lars. Tunkrans typed: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > For what purrpose? > > > > ATI, unlike NVidia, supports open source OS's properly, by releasing > > docs and/or driver source for their cards. > I do have a Acer ferrari Athlon 64 Laptop with Radeon 9600 and would > love to get 3D support on a NON-LINUX > opensource OS. That's why the *first* part of my response (I put it back after you elided it) is important! I don't do 3d stuff on my desktop, so I don't need it, and don't know much about it. A quick "man -k radeon" on my 6-STABLE system turns up the radeon(4x) page, which claims to support hardware 3d acceleration on several varieties of the Radeon 9600. This is part of the xorg port. http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 19:39:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C7916A412 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A25C43D66 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:39:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J7A00GELP9WEV20@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:39:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no ([80.203.21.224]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with SMTP id <0J7A0057XP9VRQ60@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:39:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:39:31 +0200 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH In-reply-to: <17717.10025.959024.108597@bhuda.mired.org> To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-id: <20061017213931.bbcd701a.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.9 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru> <17717.10025.959024.108597@bhuda.mired.org> Subject: Re: video card for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:39:37 -0000 On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:55:37 -0400 Mike Meyer wrote: > ATI, unlike NVidia, supports open source OS's properly, by releasing > docs and/or driver source for their cards. This is only true for a specific subset of ATI cards. The whole X1000-series (X1300, X1400 and X1600 at least) does not work *at* *all* with any open source ati driver, only with the vesa driver. according to the developers, this is because ATI refuses to release all necessary information to get these cards working with the open source driver. And with the vesa driver you might not get all features (example: a laptop with X1400 and 1280x800 display will only work in 1024x768 with vesa). And of course, the ATI proprietary driver only works under Linux. So much for the "ATI is better than nVidia in supporting open source" argument. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 20:00:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2064B16A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1161979221.ac27d9@mired.org) Received: from mired.org (vpn.mired.org [66.92.153.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7966243D6D for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:00:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1161979221.ac27d9@mired.org) Received: (qmail 72501 invoked by uid 1001); 17 Oct 2006 20:00:21 -0000 Received: by bhuda.mired.org (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1001); Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:00:21 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17717.13909.352765.706420@bhuda.mired.org> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:00:21 -0400 To: Torfinn Ingolfsen In-Reply-To: <20061017213931.bbcd701a.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> References: <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru> <17717.10025.959024.108597@bhuda.mired.org> <20061017213931.bbcd701a.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 19) "Constant Variable" XEmacs Lucid X-Primary-Address: mwm@mired.org X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`; h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.0.3 (Seattle Slew) From: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: video card for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:00:02 -0000 In <20061017213931.bbcd701a.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no>, Torfinn Ingolfsen typed: > On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:55:37 -0400 > Mike Meyer wrote: > > ATI, unlike NVidia, supports open source OS's properly, by releasing > > docs and/or driver source for their cards. > > This is only true for a specific subset of ATI cards. The whole > X1000-series (X1300, X1400 and X1600 at least) does not work *at* *all* > with any open source ati driver, only with the vesa driver. according > to the developers, this is because ATI refuses to release all necessary > information to get these cards working with the open source driver. > And with the vesa driver you might not get all features (example: a > laptop with X1400 and 1280x800 display will only work in 1024x768 with > vesa). And of course, the ATI proprietary driver only works under Linux. > So much for the "ATI is better than nVidia in supporting open source" > argument. "Better" is a judgement call, and doesn't imply "good". I'd say ATI is better than nVidia, because ATI provides information for at least some of their cards, so you can get open source drivers for them that work well. As far as I know, there are no open source drivers for any nVidia card that work well - all of them seem to be at the "use the VESA driver and pray" level you get with some of the ATI cards. It may be that ATI is moving towards stopping support for open source systems. That would be a shame. Whether releasing closed-source drivers for a handful of open-source platforms qualifies as "supporting open source" is another question. Clearly they're supporting the platform, but that's not necessarily the same thing. http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 20:11:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9D316A416 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236F643D46 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:11:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9HKBLt1006580; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:11:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DC233B82E; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:11:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:11:20 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Victor Ploshykhin Message-ID: <20061017201120.GA93129@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Ploshykhin , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: video card for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:11:23 -0000 --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 10:17:57PM +0400, Victor Ploshykhin wrote: > Hi! >=20 > I have FreeBSD 6.1 on AMD64. Unfortunaly there are no nvidia drivers for = video card in my computer. So I will put another one. > Could you tell me what video cards are REALLY supported in this configura= tion. All radeons up to the 9250 (RV280) are supported by Xorg, with OpenGL accelleration via the FreeBSD kernel driver. I'm using a 9250 on amd64 myself: drm0: port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem 0xe8000000-0xefffffff,= 0xfbe It is fast enough for things like Celestia, Quake and glitz. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFNTjoEnfvsMMhpyURAp0KAKCPqj/uF7hJAfvhEEmSj8D4/JAUKQCfbll3 vFJvCFLu2pCgRzBdtcQOkIA= =n6r/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 03:17:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2707E16A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamsbd@freebsdworld.net) Received: from mail.freebsdworld.net (rrcs-24-213-219-146.nys.biz.rr.com [24.213.219.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB4943D5A for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:17:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adamsbd@freebsdworld.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (rrcs-24-213-219-145.nys.biz.rr.com [24.213.219.145]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.freebsdworld.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399EB2B5A for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:17:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Benjamin Adams To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:17:19 -0400 Message-Id: <1161155844.20165.1.camel@Brutus.freebsdworld.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: make.conf AMD X2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:17:30 -0000 I was wondering what I should use in my make.conf for my processor: CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ (2200.09-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x20fb1 Stepping = 1 Features=0x178bfbff Features2=0x1 AMD Features=0xe2500800 AMD Features2=0x3 Cores per package: 2 Also after I change my make.conf will I have re-install all to take advantage of this? (portupgrade -af) Thanks Benjamin Adams From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 06:23:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3339216A412; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidxu@freebsd.org) From: David Xu To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:22:59 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <1161155844.20165.1.camel@Brutus.freebsdworld.net> In-Reply-To: <1161155844.20165.1.camel@Brutus.freebsdworld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610181422.59368.davidxu@freebsd.org> Cc: Benjamin Adams Subject: Re: make.conf AMD X2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:23:05 -0000 On Wednesday 18 October 2006 15:17, Benjamin Adams wrote: > I was wondering what I should use in my make.conf for my processor: > > CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ (2200.09-MHz > K8-class CPU) > Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x20fb1 Stepping = 1 > > Features=0x178bfbffA,C MOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT> > Features2=0x1 > AMD Features=0xe2500800 > AMD Features2=0x3 > Cores per package: 2 > > > Also after I change my make.conf will I have re-install all to take > advantage of this? (portupgrade -af) > > Thanks > > Benjamin Adams I have Athlon 64 X2 3800+ running 64bit FreeBSD, I never have to set any flags in make.conf, isn't default configuration already good enough ? David Xu From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 06:41:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E9A16A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@gneto.com) Received: from av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3B043D64 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:41:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@gneto.com) Received: by av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 6BD36382E3; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:41:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F69F38110; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:41:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.30] (h33n2fls31o985.telia.com [213.67.213.33]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2901C37E43; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:41:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4535CC95.5030501@gneto.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:41:25 +0200 From: Martin Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Meyer References: <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru> <17717.10025.959024.108597@bhuda.mired.org> <20061017213931.bbcd701a.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <17717.13909.352765.706420@bhuda.mired.org> In-Reply-To: <17717.13909.352765.706420@bhuda.mired.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: video card for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:41:33 -0000 Mike Meyer skrev: > "Better" is a judgement call, and doesn't imply "good". I'd say ATI is > better than nVidia, because ATI provides information for at least some > of their cards, so you can get open source drivers for them that work For cards that are ~3years old! The ones you can buy today does not work at all! > It may be that ATI is moving towards stopping support for open source > systems. That would be a shame. That is the direction they've been heading the last years. At least we can hope for a change now that AMD have bought them. > Whether releasing closed-source drivers for a handful of open-source > platforms qualifies as "supporting open source" is another > question. Clearly they're supporting the platform, but that's not > necessarily the same thing. At present the nVidia cards is the only choice for FreeBSD, it is not as good as it could be (no amd64 support but that is FreeBSD's fault not nVidia), but it is something. /Martin From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 14:15:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33C316A415 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:15:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1162044971.ac998d@mired.org) Received: from mired.org (vpn.mired.org [66.92.153.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AFDB943D66 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:15:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1162044971.ac998d@mired.org) Received: (qmail 81849 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Oct 2006 14:16:11 -0000 Received: by bhuda.mired.org (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1001); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:16:10 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17718.14122.595003.335493@bhuda.mired.org> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:16:10 -0400 To: Martin Nilsson In-Reply-To: <4535CC95.5030501@gneto.com> References: <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru> <17717.10025.959024.108597@bhuda.mired.org> <20061017213931.bbcd701a.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <17717.13909.352765.706420@bhuda.mired.org> <4535CC95.5030501@gneto.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 19) "Constant Variable" XEmacs Lucid X-Primary-Address: mwm@mired.org X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`; h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.0.3 (Seattle Slew) From: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: video card for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:15:55 -0000 In <4535CC95.5030501@gneto.com>, Martin Nilsson typed: > Mike Meyer skrev: > > "Better" is a judgement call, and doesn't imply "good". I'd say ATI is > > better than nVidia, because ATI provides information for at least some > > of their cards, so you can get open source drivers for them that work > For cards that are ~3years old! The ones you can buy today does not work > at all! Gee, that's odd. I bought an ATI card last month. Works like a charm. Much better than the nVidia cards it replaced. Checking again, I still see lots of cards supported by the OS radeon driver there. Maybe you're going to the wrong stores? Yeah, the newest cards aren't supported. That's the R5XXX cards - which were introduced about a year ago, *not* three years ago. Of course, maybe you're focused on 3d support, which is missing for cards using the R3XX and later chips. > > Whether releasing closed-source drivers for a handful of open-source > > platforms qualifies as "supporting open source" is another > > question. Clearly they're supporting the platform, but that's not > > necessarily the same thing. > At present the nVidia cards is the only choice for FreeBSD, Not if you want to use it on something other than i386. That's why the very first question I asked is the important one - what do you want to use it for? For what I want it for, ATI is the only choice. > no amd64 support but that is FreeBSD's fault not nVidia Why is that FreeBSD's fault? http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 14:19:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696EC16A47E; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabriele@sssup.it) Received: from maya.ngi.it (ns2.ngi.it [88.149.128.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165C643D45; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:19:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabriele@sssup.it) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (88-149-140-189.f5.ngi.it [88.149.140.189]) (authenticated bits=0) by maya.ngi.it (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k9IEJiCK024250; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:19:46 +0200 Message-ID: <45363802.9080907@sssup.it> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:19:46 +0200 From: Gabriele Cecchetti User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek References: <452D1CDF.90208@sssup.it> <20061011175829.GA57686@garage.freebsd.pl> In-Reply-To: <20061011175829.GA57686@garage.freebsd.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Any progress for: amd64/91799: ggated core dumps on amd64 after client connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:19:57 -0000 Pawel Jakub Dawidek ha scritto: > On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 06:33:35PM +0200, Gabriele Cecchetti wrote: >> Any progress about problem amd64/91799 ? >> (info at: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=91799) >> >> A patch was proposed, but for some reason has not yet been submitted. >> Any chance to see a working patch inside 6-STABLE ? > > I'm sorry that it takes so long... > > I just tried to reproduce it on: > > beast:root:~# uname -a > FreeBSD beast.wheel.pl 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #2: Thu May 11 02:05:14 CEST 2006 root@beast.wheel.pl:/usr/home/obj/usr/home/src/REL6/src/sys/BEAST amd64 > > No luck, it works just fine. > > I need more info to reproduce it. Could you start both ggated and ggatec > with -v option and send me the output from right before the crash? > Sorry for the late. I've reproduced it on: FreeBSD feanor2.cluster 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #1: Tue Oct 17 14:13:34 CEST 2006 root@feanor2.retis:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP amd64 on the secondary node I run: # ggated -v while on the primary node I run: # ggatec create 10.0.0.2 /dev/ad4s1h After a lot of output ggated core dump with the following last messages: info: Connection from: 10.0.0.1. debug: Receiving version packet. debug: Version packet received. debug: Receiving initial packet. debug: Initial packet received. debug: Connection created [10.0.0.1, /dev/ad4s1h]. debug: New connection created (token=3889378918). debug: Sending initial packet. info: Connection from: 10.0.0.1. debug: Receiving version packet. debug: Version packet received. debug: Receiving initial packet. debug: Initial packet received. debug: Found existing connection (token=3889378918). debug: Connection added [10.0.0.1, /dev/ad4s1h]. debug: Sending initial packet. debug: Connection removed [10.0.0.1 /dev/ad4s1h]. debug: Process created [/dev/ad4s1h]. notice: disk_thread: started [/dev/ad4s1h]! notice: send_thread: started [/dev/ad4s1h]! notice: recv_thread: started [/dev/ad4s1h]! debug: Received hdr packet. debug: recv_thread: offset=26029891072 length=512 Assertion failed: ((req->r_offset % conn->c_sectorsize) == 0), function disk_thread, file /usr/src/sbin/ggate/ggated/ggated.c, line 713. info: Connection from: 10.0.0.1. debug: Receiving version packet. debug: Version packet received. debug: Receiving initial packet. debug: Initial packet received. debug: Connection created [10.0.0.1, /dev/ad4s1h]. debug: New connection created (token=3536653038). debug: Sending initial packet. error: accept(): Too many open files. error: Exiting. I think the main problem is pointed out by: Assertion failed: (...) and I could not get /dev/ggate0 If I run the same test with the proposed patch I get: debug: Receiving version packet. debug: Version packet received. debug: Receiving initial packet. debug: Initial packet received. debug: Connection created [10.0.0.1, /dev/ad4s1h]. debug: New connection created (token=1330107011). debug: Sending initial packet. info: Connection from: 10.0.0.1. debug: Receiving version packet. debug: Version packet received. debug: Receiving initial packet. debug: Initial packet received. debug: Found existing connection (token=1330107011). debug: Connection added [10.0.0.1, /dev/ad4s1h]. debug: Sending initial packet. debug: Connection removed [10.0.0.1 /dev/ad4s1h]. debug: Process created [/dev/ad4s1h]. notice: disk_thread: started [/dev/ad4s1h]! notice: send_thread: started [/dev/ad4s1h]! notice: recv_thread: started [/dev/ad4s1h]! error: Error while receiving hdr packet: Resource temporarily unavailable. error: Exiting. nothing of good right now Thanks Gabriele From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 20:06:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C6616A494 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:06:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cokane@mail.cokane.org) Received: from ms-smtp-02.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1680A43D6B for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:06:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cokane@mail.cokane.org) Received: from ramen.cokane.org (rrcs-70-62-16-230.central.biz.rr.com [70.62.16.230]) by ms-smtp-02.ohiordc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k9IK6IZk015223 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:06:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89472 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Oct 2006 20:03:43 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:03:43 +0000 From: Coleman Kane To: marcus@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061018200343.GA89165@ramen.coleyandcheryl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: amd64@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Regression in evolution-data-server 2.8.1 import X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:06:37 -0000 --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I am a user of the amd64 platform and I have noticed a regression that was introduced with GNOME 2.16.1, and specifically databases/evolution-data-server 2.8.1. The bug fixed by ports pr-93215 had its patch removed, but the bug was never addressed by GNOME. The source has been slightly altered, but the large memory allocation still occurs. I am attaching a new patch to the camel/camel-object.c file that was originally patched by: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/files/Attic/patch-camel_camel-object.c -- Coleman Kane --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="patch-camel_camel-object.c" --- camel-object.c.orig Wed Oct 18 15:53:34 2006 +++ camel-object.c Wed Oct 18 15:55:01 2006 @@ -457,7 +457,7 @@ } /* we batch up the properties and set them in one go */ - if (!(argv = g_try_malloc ((gulong)(sizeof (*argv) + (count - CAMEL_ARGV_MAX) * sizeof (argv->argv[0]))))) + if (!(argv = g_try_malloc ((guint32)(sizeof (*argv) + (count - CAMEL_ARGV_MAX) * sizeof (argv->argv[0]))))) return -1; argv->argc = 0; @@ -537,8 +537,8 @@ count = g_slist_length(props); - arggetv = g_malloc0(sizeof(*arggetv) + (count - CAMEL_ARGV_MAX) * sizeof(arggetv->argv[0])); - argv = g_malloc0(sizeof(*argv) + (count - CAMEL_ARGV_MAX) * sizeof(argv->argv[0])); + arggetv = g_malloc0((guint32)(sizeof(*arggetv) + (count - CAMEL_ARGV_MAX) * sizeof(arggetv->argv[0]))); + argv = g_malloc0((guint32)(sizeof(*argv) + (count - CAMEL_ARGV_MAX) * sizeof(argv->argv[0]))); l = props; i = 0; while (l) { --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 14:53:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9655C16A500 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:53:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74C243D4C for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:53:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9JErWN9066690; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:53:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:18:55 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru> <17717.10025.959024.108597@bhuda.mired.org> In-Reply-To: <17717.10025.959024.108597@bhuda.mired.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610191018.55987.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:53:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/2050/Thu Oct 19 03:58:33 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: rax-rax@yandex.ru, Mike Meyer Subject: Re: video card for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:53:57 -0000 On Tuesday 17 October 2006 14:55, Mike Meyer wrote: > In <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru>, Victor Ploshykhin typed: > > I have FreeBSD 6.1 on AMD64. Unfortunaly there are no nvidia drivers for video card in my computer. So I will put another one. > > Could you tell me what video cards are REALLY supported in this configuration. > > For what purpose? I used a pair of nvidia cards on my amd64 desktop > for months. I've since discovered that the driver I was using didn't > properly support either large LCDs or dual heads (though the latter > may have been a configuration problem on my part). I bought an ATI > card, and now have said large LCD as one of the two heads attached to > the card. > > ATI, unlike NVidia, supports open source OS's properly, by releasing > docs and/or driver source for their cards. Only for older cards, not any of their newer stuff. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 14:54:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A1316A521 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:54:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4728943D58 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:54:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9JErWNA066690; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:53:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:25:28 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru> <4535CC95.5030501@gneto.com> <17718.14122.595003.335493@bhuda.mired.org> In-Reply-To: <17718.14122.595003.335493@bhuda.mired.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610191025.29016.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:54:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/2050/Thu Oct 19 03:58:33 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Mike Meyer Subject: Re: video card for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:54:06 -0000 On Wednesday 18 October 2006 10:16, Mike Meyer wrote: > Yeah, the newest cards aren't supported. That's the R5XXX cards - > which were introduced about a year ago, *not* three years ago. Of > course, maybe you're focused on 3d support, which is missing for cards > using the R3XX and later chips. 3D support is actually quite important for many folks, if you don't need it you can just use the "vesa" driver with either ATI or Nvidia. > > > Whether releasing closed-source drivers for a handful of open-source > > > platforms qualifies as "supporting open source" is another > > > question. Clearly they're supporting the platform, but that's not > > > necessarily the same thing. > > At present the nVidia cards is the only choice for FreeBSD, > > Not if you want to use it on something other than i386. That's why the > very first question I asked is the important one - what do you want to > use it for? For what I want it for, ATI is the only choice. > > > no amd64 support but that is FreeBSD's fault not nVidia > > Why is that FreeBSD's fault? Because our kernel doesn't yet provide all the features the driver needs. I've added some of them, but mroe stuff is needed. Nvidia sent out an e-mail a while back listing the things they need as far as kernel support. Given their willingness to do a driver and my interactions with both ATI (in the past) and Nvidia, I'd say that Nvidia supports FreeBSD much more than ATI at this point. Note that ATI only opened up their documents for the older R2xx cards under an NDA to developers working for a company that was under contract to develop a driver, not out of the goodness of their heart. To my knowledge, Nvidia is not providing a FreeBSD driver due to a commercial contract, but closer to "out of the goodness of their heart." -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 15:55:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41DD16A416 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:55:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cryx-freebsd@h3q.com) Received: from mail.h3q.com (mail.h3q.com [217.13.206.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5164F43D78 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:55:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cryx-freebsd@h3q.com) Received: (qmail 13201 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2006 15:55:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.1.1.245?) (cryx@62.220.7.20) by mail.h3q.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 19 Oct 2006 15:55:04 -0000 Message-ID: <45379FD7.2060604@h3q.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:55:03 +0200 From: Philipp Wuensche User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Macintosh/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken Gunderson References: <20061011235311.e687ca06.kgunders@teamcool.net> In-Reply-To: <20061011235311.e687ca06.kgunders@teamcool.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tyan am2 boards X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:55:14 -0000 Ken Gunderson wrote: > Greetings All: > > Perchance does anyone have any experience with either of these > Tyan AM2 boards they could share?? > > Tomcat n3400B (S2925) - nVidia nForce Pro 3400 based > > > > Tomcat h1000S (S3950) - Broadcom ht1000 based > I have this board since yesterday. With SATA in P-ATA emulation it boots and I'm able to install 6.1-RELAESE on the both SATA disks (ad6, ad10) with gmirror. Whats not working is any kind of temperature or fan-speed monitoring, I just don't get the hw.acpi.thermal stuff and building the kernel with smb and intpm support does not give the /dev/smb device. Also this amr_linux failure looks odd, but I get that on other Tyan boards too. I don't use the onboard raid-stuff, so I can't say anything about that. Don't wonder about the UDMA33 message of the harddisks, they both work in full speed. Got 50MByte/s sustained while syncing the gmirror. If you have any tests or questions, the system will not be in production until end of next week or so, so I can play if you have any specific questions :-) dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p10 #0: Thu Oct 19 15:16:05 CEST 2006 root@server1:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP-FOO ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ (2194.51-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x40fb2 Stepping = 2 Features=0x178bfbff Features2=0x2001 AMD Features=0xea500800 AMD Features2=0x1f,,CR8> Cores per package: 2 real memory = 2147418112 (2047 MB) avail memory = 2062290944 (1966 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI ioapic0 irqs 0-15 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 16-31 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 32-47 on motherboard kbd0 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: Sleep Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x508-0x50b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 13.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 atapci0: port 0xc080-0xc087,0xc000-0xc003,0xbc00-0xbc07,0xb880-0xb883,0xb800-0xb80f mem 0xff3fe000-0xff3fffff irq 11 at device 14.0 on pci1 ata2: on atapci0 ata3: on atapci0 atapci1: port 0xcc00-0xcc07,0xc880-0xc883,0xc800-0xc807,0xc480-0xc483,0xc400-0xc40f irq 11 at device 14.1 on pci1 ata4: on atapci1 ata5: on atapci1 atapci2: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 2.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci2 ata1: on atapci2 isab0: at device 2.2 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 ohci0: port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem 0xff6b4000-0xff6b4fff irq 10 at device 3.0 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ohci1: port 0xe400-0xe4ff mem 0xff6b5000-0xff6b5fff irq 10 at device 3.1 on pci0 ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb1: SMM does not respond, resetting usb1: on ohci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xff6b6000-0xff6b6fff irq 10 at device 3.2 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: EHCI version 1.0 usb2: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2: on ehci0 usb2: USB revision 2.0 uhub2: (0x1166) EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered em0: port 0xdc00-0xdc3f mem 0xff680000-0xff69ffff,0xff660000-0xff67ffff irq 24 at device 4.0 on pci0 em0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:81:5e:bd:f4 em1: port 0xd880-0xd8bf mem 0xff620000-0xff63ffff,0xff600000-0xff61ffff irq 25 at device 5.0 on pci0 em1: Ethernet address: 00:e0:81:5e:bd:f5 pci0: at device 6.0 (no driver attached) acpi_button0: on acpi0 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A, console orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xc9fff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (amr_linux, 0xffffffff8062e300, 0) error 6 ad4: 238475MB at ata2-master UDMA33 GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0 created (id=4289931757). GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad4 detected. ad6: 238475MB at ata3-master UDMA33 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad6 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad6 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad4 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider mirror/gm0 launched. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0s1a From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 17:06:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B75916A492 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1162141595.53215e@mired.org) Received: from mired.org (vpn.mired.org [66.92.153.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F5F943D7F for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:06:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1162141595.53215e@mired.org) Received: (qmail 97991 invoked by uid 1001); 19 Oct 2006 17:06:35 -0000 Received: by bhuda.mired.org (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1001); Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:06:34 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17719.45210.731064.703629@bhuda.mired.org> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:06:34 -0400 To: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: <200610191025.29016.jhb@freebsd.org> References: <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru> <4535CC95.5030501@gneto.com> <17718.14122.595003.335493@bhuda.mired.org> <200610191025.29016.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 19) "Constant Variable" XEmacs Lucid X-Primary-Address: mwm@mired.org X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`; h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.0.3 (Seattle Slew) From: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: video card for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:06:22 -0000 In <200610191025.29016.jhb@freebsd.org>, John Baldwin typed: > On Wednesday 18 October 2006 10:16, Mike Meyer wrote: > > Yeah, the newest cards aren't supported. That's the R5XXX cards - > > which were introduced about a year ago, *not* three years ago. Of > > course, maybe you're focused on 3d support, which is missing for cards > > using the R3XX and later chips. > 3D support is actually quite important for many folks, if you don't need it > you can just use the "vesa" driver with either ATI or Nvidia. Actually, it's not quite that simple. The vesa driver - and the open source nvidia driver - don't work properly with modern high-end monitors. Nor could I get the nvidia driver to properly support dual heads on a card that supposedly had it, though that may not be a driver problem. Being able to use these things is actually quite important for many folks. For them, the choice is either the proprietary drivers, or the open source ATI driver (or trying the also-ran manufacturers...). I'd be interested in what applications "many folks" use that needs 3d hardware support so badly they're willing to let it determine the platform choice. > > > > Whether releasing closed-source drivers for a handful of open-source > > > > platforms qualifies as "supporting open source" is another > > > > question. Clearly they're supporting the platform, but that's not > > > > necessarily the same thing. > > > At present the nVidia cards is the only choice for FreeBSD, > > > > Not if you want to use it on something other than i386. That's why the > > very first question I asked is the important one - what do you want to > > use it for? For what I want it for, ATI is the only choice. > > > > > no amd64 support but that is FreeBSD's fault not nVidia > > > > Why is that FreeBSD's fault? > > Because our kernel doesn't yet provide all the features the driver needs. But it does for the i386? That seems really strange... > I've added some of them, but mroe stuff is needed. Nvidia sent out an > e-mail a while back listing the things they need as far as kernel support. > Given their willingness to do a driver and my interactions with both > ATI (in the past) and Nvidia, I'd say that Nvidia supports FreeBSD much > more than ATI at this point. Note that ATI only opened up their documents > for the older R2xx cards under an NDA to developers working for a company > that was under contract to develop a driver, not out of the goodness of their > heart. To my knowledge, Nvidia is not providing a FreeBSD driver due to a > commercial contract, but closer to "out of the goodness of their heart." Where did the docs for the R3xx and R4xx cards come from? They didn't get 3d support, but they at least got better support than the nvidia cards. http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 17:38:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A85316A4F8 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zombyfork@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9A143E0A for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:34:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zombyfork@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so310869nzn for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:34:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=b/kcd28Ajdv9LV45jCLo+ol7Vq/Ty/NZ5N+d2KI3XbHq41xh1V38BIOijp1W500N9CXlIeT8cBHMSoQNhcb3YnD1K0aGJNpo6ef8Pl3r7/wtGaVLNqqSJHbyXG93DW6pXDmvmNTX8sxKwk8muo+Wv6GS76QBU3NcdAPuryu2d7M= Received: by 10.65.213.4 with SMTP id p4mr368096qbq; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.241.10 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <346a80220610191034oa1e9cdexb8ac22486d892a69@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:34:00 -0400 From: "Coleman Kane" To: "Mike Meyer" In-Reply-To: <17719.45210.731064.703629@bhuda.mired.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru> <4535CC95.5030501@gneto.com> <17718.14122.595003.335493@bhuda.mired.org> <200610191025.29016.jhb@freebsd.org> <17719.45210.731064.703629@bhuda.mired.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: video card for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cokane@cokane.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:38:02 -0000 On 10/19/06, Mike Meyer wrote: > > In <200610191025.29016.jhb@freebsd.org>, John Baldwin > typed: > > On Wednesday 18 October 2006 10:16, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > Yeah, the newest cards aren't supported. That's the R5XXX cards - > > > which were introduced about a year ago, *not* three years ago. Of > > > course, maybe you're focused on 3d support, which is missing for cards > > > using the R3XX and later chips. > > 3D support is actually quite important for many folks, if you don't need > it > > you can just use the "vesa" driver with either ATI or Nvidia. > > Actually, it's not quite that simple. The vesa driver - and the open > source nvidia driver - don't work properly with modern high-end > monitors. Nor could I get the nvidia driver to properly support dual > heads on a card that supposedly had it, though that may not be a > driver problem. Being able to use these things is actually quite > important for many folks. For them, the choice is either the > proprietary drivers, or the open source ATI driver (or trying the > also-ran manufacturers...). > > I'd be interested in what applications "many folks" use that needs 3d > hardware support so badly they're willing to let it determine the > platform choice. > > > > > > Whether releasing closed-source drivers for a handful of > open-source > > > > > platforms qualifies as "supporting open source" is another > > > > > question. Clearly they're supporting the platform, but that's not > > > > > necessarily the same thing. > > > > At present the nVidia cards is the only choice for FreeBSD, > > > > > > Not if you want to use it on something other than i386. That's why the > > > very first question I asked is the important one - what do you want to > > > use it for? For what I want it for, ATI is the only choice. > > > > > > > no amd64 support but that is FreeBSD's fault not nVidia > > > > > > Why is that FreeBSD's fault? > > > > Because our kernel doesn't yet provide all the features the driver > needs. > > But it does for the i386? That seems really strange... > > > I've added some of them, but mroe stuff is needed. Nvidia sent out an > > e-mail a while back listing the things they need as far as kernel > support. > > Given their willingness to do a driver and my interactions with both > > ATI (in the past) and Nvidia, I'd say that Nvidia supports FreeBSD much > > more than ATI at this point. Note that ATI only opened up their > documents > > for the older R2xx cards under an NDA to developers working for a > company > > that was under contract to develop a driver, not out of the goodness of > their > > heart. To my knowledge, Nvidia is not providing a FreeBSD driver due to > a > > commercial contract, but closer to "out of the goodness of their heart." > > Where did the docs for the R3xx and R4xx cards come from? They didn't > get 3d support, but they at least got better support than the nvidia > cards. > > -- > Mike Meyer > http://www.mired.org/consulting.html > Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information. Those cards, from my understanding came from the R300 project at http://r300.sourceforge.net/. I do not know where a large amount of their information sources came from. Eric Anholt [anholt@] has been a major contributor for FreeBSD to the X.org/Mesa/DRI projects. I would recommend speaking with him regarding these cards, future support, and what needs to be done to get there. I have a Gateway 7422gx with a Mobile Athlon64 and a Radeon 9550 running FreeBSD/amd64 7.0-CURRENT. It works nicely... Check out http://www.cokane.org/dokuwiki/freebsd/amd64_compatibility for some of my personal experience (though it is a bit outdated). -- Coleman Kane From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 18:01:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9219316A4E2 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A0143D5A for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:01:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9JI1JFt067884; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:01:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: Mike Meyer Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:56:44 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru> <200610191025.29016.jhb@freebsd.org> <17719.45210.731064.703629@bhuda.mired.org> In-Reply-To: <17719.45210.731064.703629@bhuda.mired.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610191356.44940.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:01:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/2050/Thu Oct 19 03:58:33 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: video card for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:01:44 -0000 On Thursday 19 October 2006 13:06, Mike Meyer wrote: > > Because our kernel doesn't yet provide all the features the driver needs. > > But it does for the i386? That seems really strange... For good performance with i386 and PCI-e it needs the changes on i386 as well, but amd64 needs it at a more basic level. > > I've added some of them, but mroe stuff is needed. Nvidia sent out an > > e-mail a while back listing the things they need as far as kernel support. > > Given their willingness to do a driver and my interactions with both > > ATI (in the past) and Nvidia, I'd say that Nvidia supports FreeBSD much > > more than ATI at this point. Note that ATI only opened up their documents > > for the older R2xx cards under an NDA to developers working for a company > > that was under contract to develop a driver, not out of the goodness of their > > heart. To my knowledge, Nvidia is not providing a FreeBSD driver due to a > > commercial contract, but closer to "out of the goodness of their heart." > > Where did the docs for the R3xx and R4xx cards come from? They didn't > get 3d support, but they at least got better support than the nvidia > cards. I wasn't aware that they even had docs, but were reverse engineering it and/or depending on the R2xx docs, since 2d interfaces tends to change a lot less (and be simpler) than 3d. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 19:16:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AA916A412 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:16:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9095743D46 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:16:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.62) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1GadNQ-00038C-1X>; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:16:24 +0200 Received: from e178043115.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.43.115] helo=[192.168.1.128]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.62) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1GadNP-0005ra-Pd>; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:16:24 +0200 Message-ID: <4537CF02.60205@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:16:18 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061015) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philipp Wuensche References: <20061011235311.e687ca06.kgunders@teamcool.net> <45379FD7.2060604@h3q.com> In-Reply-To: <45379FD7.2060604@h3q.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.43.115 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tyan am2 boards X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:16:30 -0000 Philipp Wuensche wrote: > Ken Gunderson wrote: > >> Greetings All: >> >> Perchance does anyone have any experience with either of these >> Tyan AM2 boards they could share?? >> >> Tomcat n3400B (S2925) - nVidia nForce Pro 3400 based >> >> >> >> Tomcat h1000S (S3950) - Broadcom ht1000 based >> >> > > I have this board since yesterday. With SATA in P-ATA emulation it boots > and I'm able to install 6.1-RELAESE on the both SATA disks (ad6, ad10) > with gmirror. > > Whats not working is any kind of temperature or fan-speed monitoring, I > just don't get the hw.acpi.thermal stuff and building the kernel with > smb and intpm support does not give the /dev/smb device. > The same on older nForce4X16 based boards like the A8N32-SLI from ASUS and the same on ASUS P4P800 Board, an older i845 based P4 board. It seems to me that every ACPI APIC Table: marked mainboard I have access to does not show up any kind of fan speed/temperature stuff. I know, that OpenBSD on the same motherboards do! > Also this amr_linux failure looks odd, but I get that on other Tyan > boards too. > > I don't use the onboard raid-stuff, so I can't say anything about that. > > Don't wonder about the UDMA33 message of the harddisks, they both work > in full speed. Got 50MByte/s sustained while syncing the gmirror. > > If you have any tests or questions, the system will not be in production > until end of next week or so, so I can play if you have any specific > questions :-) > > dmesg: > > Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p10 #0: Thu Oct 19 15:16:05 CEST 2006 > root@server1:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP-FOO > ACPI APIC Table: > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ (2194.51-MHz > K8-class CPU) > Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x40fb2 Stepping = 2 > > Features=0x178bfbff > Features2=0x2001 > AMD Features=0xea500800 > AMD Features2=0x1f,,CR8> > Cores per package: 2 > real memory = 2147418112 (2047 MB) > avail memory = 2062290944 (1966 MB) > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI > ioapic0 irqs 0-15 on motherboard > ioapic1 irqs 16-31 on motherboard > ioapic2 irqs 32-47 on motherboard > kbd0 at kbdmux0 > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > acpi0: Sleep Button (fixed) > Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 > acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x508-0x50b on acpi0 > cpu0: on acpi0 > cpu1: on acpi0 > pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 > pci0: on pcib0 > pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 > pci1: on pcib1 > pcib2: at device 13.0 on pci1 > pci2: on pcib2 > atapci0: port > 0xc080-0xc087,0xc000-0xc003,0xbc00-0xbc07,0xb880-0xb883,0xb800-0xb80f > mem 0xff3fe000-0xff3fffff irq 11 at device 14.0 on pci1 > ata2: on atapci0 > ata3: on atapci0 > atapci1: port > 0xcc00-0xcc07,0xc880-0xc883,0xc800-0xc807,0xc480-0xc483,0xc400-0xc40f > irq 11 at device 14.1 on pci1 > ata4: on atapci1 > ata5: on atapci1 > atapci2: port > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 2.1 on pci0 > ata0: on atapci2 > ata1: on atapci2 > isab0: at device 2.2 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > ohci0: port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem > 0xff6b4000-0xff6b4fff irq 10 at device 3.0 on pci0 > ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support > usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting > usb0: on ohci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > ohci1: port 0xe400-0xe4ff mem > 0xff6b5000-0xff6b5fff irq 10 at device 3.1 on pci0 > ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] > usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support > usb1: SMM does not respond, resetting > usb1: on ohci1 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > uhub1: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > ehci0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem > 0xff6b6000-0xff6b6fff irq 10 at device 3.2 on pci0 > ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > usb2: EHCI version 1.0 > usb2: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 > usb2: on ehci0 > usb2: USB revision 2.0 > uhub2: (0x1166) EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > em0: port > 0xdc00-0xdc3f mem 0xff680000-0xff69ffff,0xff660000-0xff67ffff irq 24 at > device 4.0 on pci0 > em0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:81:5e:bd:f4 > em1: port > 0xd880-0xd8bf mem 0xff620000-0xff63ffff,0xff600000-0xff61ffff irq 25 at > device 5.0 on pci0 > em1: Ethernet address: 00:e0:81:5e:bd:f5 > pci0: at device 6.0 (no driver attached) > acpi_button0: on acpi0 > sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio0: port may not be enabled > sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on > acpi0 > sio0: type 16550A, console > orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xc9fff on isa0 > atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 > ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio1: port may not be enabled > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 > Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec > module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (amr_linux, 0xffffffff8062e300, 0) error 6 > ad4: 238475MB at ata2-master UDMA33 > GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0 created (id=4289931757). > GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad4 detected. > ad6: 238475MB at ata3-master UDMA33 > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad6 detected. > GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad6 activated. > GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad4 activated. > GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider mirror/gm0 launched. > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0s1a > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-amd64 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-amd64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- O. Hartmann Freie Universitaet Berlin Institut fuer Geowissenschaften Fernerkundung der Erde und Planeten Malteser-Str. 74 - 100/Haus D D-12249 Berlin Tel.: +49 (0) 30 838 70 508 FAX: +49 (0) 30 838 70 837 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 22:00:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3818A16A407 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:00:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cokane@mail.cokane.org) Received: from ms-smtp-02.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E5E43D53 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:00:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cokane@mail.cokane.org) Received: from ramen.cokane.org (rrcs-70-62-16-230.central.biz.rr.com [70.62.16.230]) by ms-smtp-02.ohiordc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k9JM02cJ028823 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 88811 invoked by uid 1001); 19 Oct 2006 22:03:49 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:03:49 +0000 From: Coleman Kane To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061019220349.GA88673@ramen.coleyandcheryl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Upgrading Turion64 X2 Laptop, need input X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:00:37 -0000 Hi, I am looking into getting a Turion64 X2 laptop to replace the Gateway 7422gx that I have. Has anyone had success with any specific models under -CURRENT ? I have read the mailing lists and seen some discussion about the APIC/ACPI problems as well as some trouble with the second core not booting up all the time? Are there any success stories that can help me out? -- Coleman Kane From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 18:47:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3595E16A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from multiplay.co.uk (core6.multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2457143D72 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:46:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from vader ([85.236.96.60]) by multiplay.co.uk (multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) (MDaemon PRO v9.0.1) with ESMTP id md50003113181.msg for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:46:51 +0100 Message-ID: <0a8901c6f478$0f61d340$b3db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> From: "Steven Hartland" To: "O. Hartmann" , "Philipp Wuensche" References: <20061011235311.e687ca06.kgunders@teamcool.net><45379FD7.2060604@h3q.com> <4537CF02.60205@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:46:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Spam-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:46:51 +0100 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 85.236.96.60 X-Return-Path: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:46:51 +0100 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tyan am2 boards X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:47:01 -0000 >>> Perchance does anyone have any experience with either of these >>> Tyan AM2 boards they could share?? >>> >>> Tomcat n3400B (S2925) - nVidia nForce Pro 3400 based >>> Tried this board today under 6.1-RELEASE couldnt get it to work. Any access to the disk is unbelievably slow 1min to write the partition table. Looked to legacy mode options in the bios for the SATA but it doesnt seem to have any. Steve ================================================ This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk. 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Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:33:24 -0400 (EDT) Sender: FreeBSD Tinderbox From: FreeBSD Tinderbox To: FreeBSD Tinderbox , , Precedence: bulk Message-Id: <20061021213324.539A273068@freebsd-current.sentex.ca> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:33:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.1, clamav-milter version 0.88.1 on clamscanner3 X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: [head tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:33:26 -0000 TB --- 2006-10-21 21:03:34 - tinderbox 2.3 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2006-10-21 21:03:34 - starting HEAD tinderbox run for amd64/amd64 TB --- 2006-10-21 21:03:34 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2006-10-21 21:04:30 - checking out the source tree TB --- 2006-10-21 21:04:30 - cd /tinderbox/HEAD/amd64/amd64 TB --- 2006-10-21 21:04:30 - /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2006-10-21 21:14:05 - building world (CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe) TB --- 2006-10-21 21:14:05 - cd /src TB --- 2006-10-21 21:14:05 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> World build started on Sat Oct 21 21:14:06 UTC 2006 >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4.1: building includes >>> stage 4.2: building libraries [...] cc -O2 -pipe -I/src/lib/libc/include -I/src/lib/libc/../../include -I/src/lib/libc/amd64 -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -I/src/lib/libc/../../contrib/gdtoa -DINET6 -I/obj/amd64/src/lib/libc -I/src/lib/libc/resolv -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/src/lib/libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DPORTMAP -DDES_BUILTIN -I/src/lib/libc/rpc -DYP -DNS_CACHING -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c /src/lib/libc/stdio/vwscanf.c cc -O2 -pipe -I/src/lib/libc/include -I/src/lib/libc/../../include -I/src/lib/libc/amd64 -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -I/src/lib/libc/../../contrib/gdtoa -DINET6 -I/obj/amd64/src/lib/libc -I/src/lib/libc/resolv -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/src/lib/libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DPORTMAP -DDES_BUILTIN -I/src/lib/libc/rpc -DYP -DNS_CACHING -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c /src/lib/libc/stdio/wbuf.c cc -O2 -pipe -I/src/lib/libc/include -I/src/lib/libc/../../include -I/src/lib/libc/amd64 -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -I/src/lib/libc/../../contrib/gdtoa -DINET6 -I/obj/amd64/src/lib/libc -I/src/lib/libc/resolv -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/src/lib/libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DPORTMAP -DDES_BUILTIN -I/src/lib/libc/rpc -DYP -DNS_CACHING -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c /src/lib/libc/stdio/wprintf.c cc -O2 -pipe -I/src/lib/libc/include -I/src/lib/libc/../../include -I/src/lib/libc/amd64 -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -I/src/lib/libc/../../contrib/gdtoa -DINET6 -I/obj/amd64/src/lib/libc -I/src/lib/libc/resolv -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/src/lib/libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DPORTMAP -DDES_BUILTIN -I/src/lib/libc/rpc -DYP -DNS_CACHING -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c /src/lib/libc/stdio/wscanf.c cc -O2 -pipe -I/src/lib/libc/include -I/src/lib/libc/../../include -I/src/lib/libc/amd64 -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -I/src/lib/libc/../../contrib/gdtoa -DINET6 -I/obj/amd64/src/lib/libc -I/src/lib/libc/resolv -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/src/lib/libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DPORTMAP -DDES_BUILTIN -I/src/lib/libc/rpc -DYP -DNS_CACHING -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c /src/lib/libc/stdio/wsetup.c cc -O2 -pipe -I/src/lib/libc/include -I/src/lib/libc/../../include -I/src/lib/libc/amd64 -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -I/src/lib/libc/../../contrib/gdtoa -DINET6 -I/obj/amd64/src/lib/libc -I/src/lib/libc/resolv -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/src/lib/libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DPORTMAP -DDES_BUILTIN -I/src/lib/libc/rpc -DYP -DNS_CACHING -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c /src/lib/libc/stdio/xprintf.c /src/lib/libc/stdio/xprintf.c: In function `__v2printf': /src/lib/libc/stdio/xprintf.c:279: warning: passing arg 2 of `__builtin_va_copy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type *** Error code 1 Stop in /src/lib/libc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. TB --- 2006-10-21 21:33:24 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2006-10-21 21:33:24 - ERROR: failed to build world TB --- 2006-10-21 21:33:24 - tinderbox aborted TB --- 0.85 user 3.39 system 1789.42 real http://tinderbox.des.no//tinderbox/logs/tinderbox-head-HEAD-amd64-amd64.full