From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 00:33:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F89D16A40F for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:33:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ches@cheswick.com) Received: from i.cheswick.com (nat.cheswick.com [209.123.16.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530E743D45 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:33:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ches@cheswick.com) Received: by i.cheswick.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E268622865; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:34:22 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20061015003422.E268622865@i.cheswick.com> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:34:22 -0400 (EDT) From: ches@cheswick.com (ches) Subject: how to connect a modem to the PS2 port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:33:39 -0000 I am using a laptop as a server, and need a second serial port on it. I'd love to use the psm0 port (I know it is an RS232C serial port) connected to a modem, but I am guessing the the psm driver is getting in the way. It is hard to ask the right question in Google. Anyone know how to use the PS2 port as a simple serial port? I never use a mouse on this machine. Bill Cheswick ches@cheswick.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 00:49:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B40C16A4A0 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:49:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B65043D5D for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:49:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k9F0nkx50648; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 17:49:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <000401c6eff3$c4c7aef0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "ches" References: <20061015003422.E268622865@i.cheswick.com> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 17:49:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: Subject: Re: how to connect a modem to the PS2 port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:49:48 -0000 The PS/2 port is not a RS232 serial port. It is a serial port, but it is specifically designed for a "PS/2 mouse" serial protocol, that has nothing to do with RS232. Your going to have to do what the rest of us do and use a USB to serial port adapter. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "ches" To: Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 5:34 PM Subject: how to connect a modem to the PS2 port? > > I am using a laptop as a server, and need a second serial port on it. I'd > love to use the psm0 port (I know it is an RS232C serial port) connected to > a modem, but I am guessing the the psm driver is getting in the way. > It is hard to ask the right question in Google. > > Anyone know how to use the PS2 port as a simple serial port? I never > use a mouse on this machine. > > Bill Cheswick > ches@cheswick.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 00:58:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9764B16A407 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:58:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145A543D45 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:58:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k9F0wJx50693; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 17:58:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <001c01c6eff4$f77cd590$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Erik Norgaard" , "Beech Rintoul" References: <200610131712.46822.freebsd@alaskaparadise.com> <4530DA30.7060004@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 17:58:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Non English Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:58:50 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Norgaard" To: "Beech Rintoul" Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 5:38 AM Subject: Re: Non English Spam > > I have noted however, that some subscribers to this list write english > encoded in one of the above character sets, I don't know enough about > the character set definition, but it seems that English characters are a > subset of any character set? > > What is the recommended policy here? Should subscribers be advised to > change character set when posting to the list? > No. It's the responsibility of the person doing the filtering - in this case you - to exempt any known good e-mail sender from your filters. You know damn well that legitimate mailing list mail comes from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) it's right in the headers of the messages on the list. You have no right to force other people to conform to what you feel is acceptable formatting of their message as long as they meet the SMTP rfc standards. That's why we have RFC's. If everyone did what your proposing then senders would have hundreds of different rules they would have to follow, over and above the normal RFCs. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 01:18:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EEE316A40F for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FB643D46 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:18:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9F1FuIu026164; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:15:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9F1FuiR026163; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:15:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:15:55 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Valentin Nechayev Message-ID: <20061015011555.GB25929@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20061014164101.8507.qmail@web52113.mail.yahoo.com> <20061014183053.GA6898@lucky.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061014183053.GA6898@lucky.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jan Pfeifer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot2 loading process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:18:16 -0000 On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 09:30:53PM +0300, Valentin Nechayev wrote: > Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 09:41:01, jan.pfeifer wrote about "Boot2 loading process": > > > I was reading through the architecture handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/book.html) about the boot process, and something strange caught my attention. > > > According to the docs boot0 loads only the first record of the partition, that is 512bytes. But boot2 in my 4.11 freebsd has > 7K in size -- what makes sense, considering the amount of things it does and that it links btxld. > Name it "slice", not "partition". > > > So my question is: where does the rest of the boot2 binary is located and how is it loaded ? > > You skipped boot1 from attention. boot2 is loaded by boot1, not boot0. Not according to that piece of architecture documentation that was quoted. www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/book.html#BOOT-BOOT0 It says that boot1 is used only with floppy boots. So, either the question remains or that oiece of doc is incorrect. Cheers, ////jerry > boot1 resides in first block of FreeBSD slice (or whole disk in dedicated > partitioning). It reads MBR, detects first active FreeBSD slice (or first > FreeBSD slice if none active), loads first 8K from its (they are boot1 > + disklabel + boot2) and passes control to boot2. boot2 is placed in > blocks 2-15 of the FreeBSD slice. > > > thanks in advance for any answers! > > > -netch- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 01:42:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1462816A412 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan.pfeifer@yahoo.com.br) Received: from web52110.mail.yahoo.com (web52110.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.48.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0132043D5D for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:42:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jan.pfeifer@yahoo.com.br) Received: (qmail 40104 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Oct 2006 01:41:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.br; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1/BS97xj2uHhdYyK/rHFzrA2NR/lOp8mW1z+zDwTmMyOHYofekvtsTX7wZAbvxQLghxogjM+jE/2iabWQPvTIoZ4rF1FhiYmHjc4vd/YPFXSlGMUHk8D5WPY9Yhh7agAKUsUdOLV7DQUS4BZfuuodvfYHDuky2yLI+FLWQ1DhQ8= ; Message-ID: <20061015014156.40102.qmail@web52110.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.181.133.203] by web52110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 18:41:56 PDT Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 18:41:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Jan Pfeifer To: Jerry McAllister , Valentin Nechayev MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot2 loading process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:42:03 -0000 Thanks for the reference Jerry, you are right, from the docs:=0A=0Aboot0: s= aved into MBR, loads boot2 (the boot1 being the floppy version of it)=0A=0A= But still, according to the docs, boot0 loads only 512 bytes of it.=0A=0ASo= thanks for the note Valentin, I understand then that boot0 loads 15 record= s, that is 7.5kb.=0A=0A=0Amany thanks again,=0A=0A- jan=0A=0Aps.: the docs = also mentions that slices are the FreeBSD jargon for partitions, sorry.=0A= =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Jerry McAllister = =0ATo: Valentin Nechayev =0ACc: Jan Pfeifer ; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Saturday, October 14, 2= 006 6:15:55 PM=0ASubject: Re: Boot2 loading process=0A=0AOn Sat, Oct 14, 20= 06 at 09:30:53PM +0300, Valentin Nechayev wrote:=0A=0A> Sat, Oct 14, 2006 = at 09:41:01, jan.pfeifer wrote about "Boot2 loading process": =0A> =0A> > I= was reading through the architecture handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/= en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/book.html) about the boot process, and = something strange caught my attention.=0A> =0A> > According to the docs bo= ot0 loads only the first record of the partition, that is 512bytes. But boo= t2 in my 4.11 freebsd has > 7K in size -- what makes sense, considering the= amount of things it does and that it links btxld.=0A> Name it "slice", not= "partition".=0A> =0A> > So my question is: where does the rest of the boot= 2 binary is located and how is it loaded ?=0A> =0A> You skipped boot1 from = attention. boot2 is loaded by boot1, not boot0.=0A=0ANot according to that = piece of architecture documentation that was quoted.=0A=0A www.freebsd.org/= doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/book.html#BOOT-BOOT0=0A=0AIt says t= hat boot1 is used only with floppy boots.=0A=0ASo, either the question rema= ins or that oiece of doc is incorrect.=0A=0ACheers,=0A=0A////jerry=0A=0A> b= oot1 resides in first block of FreeBSD slice (or whole disk in dedicated=0A= > partitioning). It reads MBR, detects first active FreeBSD slice (or first= =0A> FreeBSD slice if none active), loads first 8K from its (they are boot1= =0A> + disklabel + boot2) and passes control to boot2. boot2 is placed in= =0A> blocks 2-15 of the FreeBSD slice.=0A> =0A> > thanks in advance for any= answers!=0A> =0A> =0A> -netch-=0A> _______________________________________= ________=0A> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A> http://lists.fr= eebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> To unsubscribe, send any m= ail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 01:59:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B821216A403 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:59:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A7443D46 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:59:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k9F1xZOF006636 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 18:59:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k9F1xZDM006635 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 18:59:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 18:59:35 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20061015015935.GA6617@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: Subject: AAARRRGH: cgi-bin.. "Not Increment Counter" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:59:37 -0000 Folks, I hope there are still a few of you still using cgi-bin. I jujst checked after a week or so of auto rsyncng my www files around. One of my cgi-bin scripts outputs: [TextCounter Fatal Error: Could Not Increment Counter] at every hit. In my howto notes I say that the *_data directory must be 0777; I have done that. I've also chown the perl scripts to www:www. No help. Can anybody clue me in?? thanks in advance, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 02:40:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8123E16A40F for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 02:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duncan.fbsd@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC63243D49 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 02:40:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duncan.fbsd@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so1689950pye for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:39:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=EpQ8j+wbfDtPnITNwZ9f67OESKSQ61QsxSe9Fr/aqx2Tfu00kUHH7HF4B+mLqU/9mAK61AcLcxTCRQR6VylOXjQL0PUA+1cJ61aUjQUXOQHwBp/TNgVZfED73BskGjgVmZslFL+KX5o0+6KOT6oUZVGCsck3GRzCtGUddX0G21k= Received: by 10.35.77.18 with SMTP id e18mr2129518pyl; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pres1750.airedalians.com ( [75.7.74.134]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 16sm1457191nzo.2006.10.14.19.39.26; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:39:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Donald J. O'Neill" To: Karl Agee Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:39:23 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <20061014164447.89429.qmail@web31501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20061014164447.89429.qmail@web31501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610142139.24233.duncan.fbsd@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: startkde: cannot start kdeinit. Check your installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 02:40:01 -0000 On Saturday 14 October 2006 11:44, Karl Agee wrote: > Don: > > ls -la /usr/local/bin/kdeinit > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 39876 Oct 6 01:18 > /usr/local/bin/kdeinit > ls -la /usr/local/bin/startkde > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11828 Oct 13 17:04 > /usr/local/bin/startkde > ls -la .xinitrc > -rw-r--r-- 1 kdagee wheel 37 Oct 13 19:14 .xinitrc > > I use X all the time. I use windowmaker as my > environment. Works fine. Using X.org. > > cat .xinitrc > /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker > #exec startkde > > when I try starting kde I remove the # from the > starkde line and put it in the wmaker line. > > Nothing abnormal in my .kde directory or owned by > others. > > ls -la .kde > total 8 > drwx------ 3 kdagee wheel 512 Oct 13 09:30 . > drwxr-xr-x 43 kdagee wheel 3584 Oct 14 09:25 .. > lrwxr-xr-x 1 kdagee wheel 24 Oct 12 21:01 > cache-enterprise.myhome.westell.com -> > /var/tmp/kdecache-kdagee > lrwxr-xr-x 1 kdagee wheel 24 Oct 12 21:59 > cache-myhome.westell.com -> /var/tmp/kdecache-kdagee > drwx------ 8 kdagee wheel 512 Oct 12 21:01 share > lrwxr-xr-x 1 kdagee wheel 19 Oct 13 09:30 > socket-myhome.westell.com -> /tmp/ksocket-kdagee > lrwxr-xr-x 1 kdagee wheel 15 Oct 13 09:30 > tmp-myhome.westell.com -> /tmp/kde-kdagee > > > --Karl > Hi Karl, Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. I had to weld up a special grill to go over a fire pit, and it took a long time. Then of course, it had to be tested with steaks, and of course, lots of beer. It worked great, looks good, I might have to sell some of these. I think I've exhausted all of the things I can tell you to check. I haven't exhausted all of my knowledge, but I can't think of anything else to say. Somewhere, something doesn't have the correct permissions. Startkde is a script, if you go through it and check the permissions on what it's calling up, it may give you a better idea of where the problem is. When you find the problem, and I'm sure you will, it's probably going to be something so easy that you'll be kicking yourself for not seeing it. The brain is a funny thing, it will most often see what is expected, rather than what is. Don From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 07:10:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1643816A47B for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:10:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@havoc.unixathome.org) Received: from havoc.unixathome.org (havoc.unixathome.org [66.154.98.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD45143D58 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:10:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@havoc.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7FB564A7 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:10:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from havoc.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (havoc.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0llhWYSUBnNv for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by havoc.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 46F4656496; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20061015071002.46F4656496@havoc.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2006-09-24 - 2006-10-14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:10:28 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 08:07:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5CC16A412 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:07:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jlalarcon@nerdshack.com) Received: from kelly.nerdshack.com (kelly.nerdshack.com [209.235.105.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E6E43D45 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:07:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jlalarcon@nerdshack.com) Received: from dispatchd.nerdshack.com (mail.nerdshack.com [209.235.105.20]) by kelly.nerdshack.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F63890E1A for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 02:54:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from endeavour.lordofunix.org (232.Red-81-44-135.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [81.44.135.232]) by mail.nerdshack.com with ESMTP Sun, 15 Oct 2006 02:56:24 -0500 Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:06:10 +0200 From: Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20061015100610.3d79c713.jlalarcon@nerdshack.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.12; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Xorg in 6.2-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:07:47 -0000 Hi friends. Let's me quest you what XOrg version will brings next FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE?. Thanks you very much, in advance. Regards. Jose. -- http://www.lordofunix.org/ Not Registered GNU/Hurd User. Registered BSD User 51101. Registered Linux User #213309. Memories..... You are talking about memories. Rick Deckard. Blade Runner. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 08:23:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F04B16A403 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:23:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (114-103-74-65.gci.net [65.74.103.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AB343D46 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:23:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@alaskaparadise.com) Received: by stargate.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 910A6458C; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:23:40 -0800 (AKDT) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: Alaska Paradise To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:23:15 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <200610131712.46822.freebsd@alaskaparadise.com> <4530DA30.7060004@locolomo.org> <001c01c6eff4$f77cd590$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> In-Reply-To: <001c01c6eff4$f77cd590$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1948279.keFqu9YnZE"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200610150023.38794.freebsd@alaskaparadise.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Non English Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:23:43 -0000 --nextPart1948279.keFqu9YnZE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 14 October 2006 16:58, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Erik Norgaard" > To: "Beech Rintoul" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 5:38 AM > Subject: Re: Non English Spam > > > I have noted however, that some subscribers to this list write english > > encoded in one of the above character sets, I don't know enough about > > the character set definition, but it seems that English characters are a > > subset of any character set? > > > > What is the recommended policy here? Should subscribers be advised to > > change character set when posting to the list? > > No. It's the responsibility of the person doing the filtering - in this > case you - > to exempt any known good e-mail sender from your filters. > > You know damn well that legitimate mailing list mail comes from > > mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) > > it's right in the headers of the messages on the list. You have no right > to force other people to conform to what you feel is acceptable formatting > of their message as long as they meet the SMTP rfc standards. That's why > we have RFC's. > > If everyone did what your proposing then senders would have hundreds > of different rules they would have to follow, over and above the normal > RFCs. Ted, thank you for the bit of sanity.=20 As for me, Dr. Seaman's suggestions (earlier in this thread) have brought= =20 things back to tolerable levels. I have had many responses and most probabl= y=20 work. But, I need a solution I can install on client machines (and my own)= =20 that doesn't require exotic scripts. I thoroughly parsed my maillog and so far nothing important has landed in /dev/null.=20 Once again, thanks to everyone who responded. Beech =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - beech@alaskaparadise.com /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Alaska Paradise \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://www.alaskaparadise.com =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- --nextPart1948279.keFqu9YnZE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFMfAKR5sEeCt9j00RAqa/AJwNHuSJrY/OmkpJiPjkp2sNxvqUdACgmi3N dLikg/xhsybTqOzXQEboVuY= =F7B9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1948279.keFqu9YnZE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 08:33:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF5916A403 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:33:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from netch@lucky.net) Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (burka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0335943D67 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:33:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from netch@lucky.net) Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (netch@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua with ESMTP id k9F8X6nV010814; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:33:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@burka.carrier.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k9F8X6JR010811; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:33:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:33:06 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: Jerry McAllister Message-ID: <20061015083306.GA7624@lucky.net> References: <20061014164101.8507.qmail@web52113.mail.yahoo.com> <20061014183053.GA6898@lucky.net> <20061015011555.GB25929@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <20061015011555.GB25929@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-42: On X-Verify-Sender: Address has been verified (burka.carrier.kiev.ua) X-Antivirus: Dr.Web (R) for Mail Servers on ghost.carrier.kiev.ua host X-Antivirus-Code: 100000 X-Content-Filter: burka.carrier.kiev.ua: passed Cc: Jan Pfeifer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot2 loading process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: netch@lucky.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:33:14 -0000 Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 21:15:55, jerrymc wrote about "Re: Boot2 loading proc= ess":=20 > >> So my question is: where does the rest of the boot2 binary is located = and how is it loaded ? >> You skipped boot1 from attention. boot2 is loaded by boot1, not boot0. > Not according to that piece of architecture documentation that was quoted. > www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/book.html#BOOT-B= OOT0 > It says that boot1 is used only with floppy boots. The doc is incorrect, or at least uses less detailed description. One can see from code that boot0 loads _one_ sector from slice and calls its code. Initial block of the bootable slice is identical to /boot/boot1: $ dd if=3D/dev/ad0s1a bs=3D512 count=3D1 | head -c 446 | md5 -r 42b4daabbfea8c8d3ec45e24b340868a $ head -c 446 /boot/boot1 | md5 -r 42b4daabbfea8c8d3ec45e24b340868a And reading code in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/boot1.S is enough to see that it is the routine which loads 8K including boot2. Maybe documentation clause (that boot0 loads boot2 directly) remains =66rom other version of boot0, or is used to simplify the description (because boot1 is silent part and shows something only in case of fatal error). But it's anyway too simplified as to reply to original question in this thread. This difference (boot0 loads boot2 directly or thru boot1) was vital when 4.x and 5.x resides on the same disk. This was case for my home machine a few years ago. Boot1 shall be the same version as boot2. Changes in their interaction caused problem to load FreeBSD from second slice (it was 5.x), that's why I had to use special boot setup. -netch- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 08:40:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9329316A47C for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from netch@lucky.net) Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (burka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0257743D68 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:40:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from netch@lucky.net) Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (netch@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua with ESMTP id k9F8ekZt012159; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:40:47 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@burka.carrier.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k9F8ekid012156; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:40:46 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:40:46 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: Jerry McAllister Message-ID: <20061015084046.GA11833@lucky.net> References: <20061014164101.8507.qmail@web52113.mail.yahoo.com> <20061014183053.GA6898@lucky.net> <20061015011555.GB25929@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20061015083306.GA7624@lucky.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061015083306.GA7624@lucky.net> X-42: On X-Verify-Sender: Address has been verified (burka.carrier.kiev.ua) X-Antivirus: Dr.Web (R) for Mail Servers on ghost.carrier.kiev.ua host X-Antivirus-Code: 100000 X-Content-Filter: burka.carrier.kiev.ua: passed Cc: Jan Pfeifer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot2 loading process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: netch@lucky.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:40:52 -0000 Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 11:33:06, netch wrote about "Re: Boot2 loading process": >> Not according to that piece of architecture documentation that was quoted. >> www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/book.html#BOOT-BOOT0 >> It says that boot1 is used only with floppy boots. > The doc is incorrect, or at least uses less detailed description. One Heh, according to CVS history this is obsoleted at least for 3.1-release. -netch- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 09:31:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0C616A40F; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 09:31:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corwin@aeternal.net) Received: from amber.aeternal.net (amber.aeternal.net [212.232.17.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F69043D46; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 09:31:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from corwin@aeternal.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE67DB9AA; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:31:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at aeternal.net Received: from amber.aeternal.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (amber.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dHwScfWSSsYZ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:31:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (chello089173027168.chello.sk [89.173.27.168]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD7DB99D; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:31:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4531FFCD.8040607@aeternal.net> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:30:53 +0200 From: Martin Hudec User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Scott T. Hildreth" References: <20060711162744.A22592@malcolm.berkeley.edu> <452C09B6.4030009@pobox.sk> <20061010220934.GA1484@dfwdamian.vail> <1160524816.70546.287.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <1160524816.70546.287.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-database@freebsd.org, Damian Wiest , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: corwin@aeternal.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 09:31:02 -0000 Hello, Scott T. Hildreth wrote: > He can't, DBD::Oracle uses oci underneath so he needs the Oracle client to get the shared > libraries. Mike you also need to compile or install a linux perl and then install DBI & DBD::Oracle > with the linux perl. You could use DBD::Proxy instead of installing DBD::Oracle. It installed > with DBI. Type 'perldoc DBD::Proxy' to see the docs. If you need help, you can email me > or join the dbi-users@perl.org. Not fully correct - when I wanted to use DBD::Oracle, I did not need to install linux-perl - just instantclient (linux compatibility enabled) as Martinko mentioned. And it worked. And DBD::Oracle has been used with native perl. Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 10:15:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE6916A4E9 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:15:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADE143D45 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:15:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [10.35.4.65] (65.4-35-10-static.chueca.wifi [10.35.4.65]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9A32E037; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:15:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <453209DD.8080005@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:13:49 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Stapleton References: <80f4f2b20610141440m66306927vc99186c9176a2a4f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20610141440m66306927vc99186c9176a2a4f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB Mass Storage stopped working, help requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:15:18 -0000 Jim Stapleton wrote: > It used to work on this machine, the kernel/world has not been > recompiled/reinstalled since then. However, A USB drive that used to > work (and still works in windows) no longer works in FreeBSD. When I > plug in the drive, the /dev/da* devices do not show up. The system is > running 6.1. When you plug in the USB drive, lines should be appended to the dmesg of the kernel identifying the device - or any errors. Please post that. > The handbook says I need these: > device scbus > device da > device pass > device uhci > device ohci > device usb > device umass You may need ehci if this is USB 2.0, but I think it would otherwise fall back on either ohci or uhci. > Scanning dmesg for usb, I get: > sjss@aragorn 17:32:22 (0) /usr/src > dmesg | grep usb > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > usb1: on uhci1 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > usb2: on uhci2 > usb2: USB revision 1.0 > usb3: on uhci3 > usb3: USB revision 1.0 > usb4: EHCI version 1.0 > usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 > usb4: on ehci0 > usb4: USB revision 2.0 See comment above on dmesg. You don't get all the relevant info by grepping for usb. > The results from usbdevs: > sjss@aragorn 17:34:11 (0) /usr/src > sudo usbdevs > addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel > addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel > addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel > addr 2: USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse, Logitech > addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel > addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel > addr 2: iAUDIO X5, Cowon Systems, Inc. Is that with the device plugged in? If so, seems logical that there is no device in /dev because it is not found. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 10:41:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EB016A40F; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:41:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB8043D99; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:40:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c58-107-94-118.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [58.107.94.118]) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k9FAedWG021775 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:40:43 +1000 Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9FAedZ4006162; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:40:39 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9FAed7v006161; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:40:39 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:40:39 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Simon Phoenix Message-ID: <20061015104039.GD1239@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20061011121334.98368.qmail@web88302.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <452E2106.7020209@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="veXX9dWIonWZEC6h" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <452E2106.7020209@gmail.com> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Cc: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org, Michael S , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: dictionaries/spellchecking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:41:14 -0000 --veXX9dWIonWZEC6h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2006-Oct-12 14:03:34 +0300, Simon Phoenix wrote: >1)Download >http://ftp.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/dictionaries= /DicOOo.sxw Note that this works only for OOo 1.1. It crashes OOo 2.x --=20 Peter Jeremy --veXX9dWIonWZEC6h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFMhAn/opHv/APuIcRAhLnAJ9IFDQ+sMXS2BBEkUf38EdhX2ZwZQCdG5SA hjRw1NA570r3QkrDeZv1S3Q= =UnRq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --veXX9dWIonWZEC6h-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 10:49:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B16016A417 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:49:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7342343D68 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:49:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [10.35.4.65] (65.4-35-10-static.chueca.wifi [10.35.4.65]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1062E037; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:49:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <453211C9.8030102@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:47:37 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: <200610131712.46822.freebsd@alaskaparadise.com> <4530DA30.7060004@locolomo.org> <001c01c6eff4$f77cd590$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> In-Reply-To: <001c01c6eff4$f77cd590$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Beech Rintoul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Non English Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:49:07 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> I have noted however, that some subscribers to this list write english >> encoded in one of the above character sets, I don't know enough about >> the character set definition, but it seems that English characters are a >> subset of any character set? >> >> What is the recommended policy here? Should subscribers be advised to >> change character set when posting to the list? > > No. It's the responsibility of the person doing the filtering - in this > case you - > to exempt any known good e-mail sender from your filters. > You know damn well that legitimate mailing list mail comes from > > mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) > > it's right in the headers of the messages on the list. First: You know all too well that filtering based on "Received" header fields is not reliable - any decent spammer know how to forge that. Accepting mail from a particular host should be done even before the mail delivery starts. Second: If you know postfix, you also know that header filtering is independent of other checks, even the result of filtering on individual header lines are independent. So the ideal you mention is not an option until a complete public list of authorized mail servers is available and all mail relayed through these requires authentication. Or do you have the solution that does not imply accepting any of a myriad of character sets? I'd be happy to implement that, but I don't want to open my mail server to receive mail I have no means of reading and understanding just because it is RFC compliant. > You have no right to > force other people to conform to what you feel is acceptable formatting > of their message as long as they meet the SMTP rfc standards. That's > why we have RFC's. You you know perfectly well that content filtering is not based on the RFC's on SMTP but rather on the Internet Message Format and various RFC's on MIME - but I assume that you meant to refer to these. Basically what you say here is that spammers have every right to flood mail servers as long as they do so compliant with the RFC's? I don't force anyone to conform to any arbitrary standards that I decide upon, but I have every legitimate right to reject anything that doesn't conform to my arbitrary standards. Yet, it is somewhat implicit that this is an English language list, any one writing in a different language may be lucky to find someone who can respond in their language, but are just as often referred to one of the language specific lists - if their message is not simply ignored. So we do actually impose some arbitrary rule on subscribers, namely to write in English. Given that we find it reasonable to impose such a rule, then why is it unreasonable to impose that they should abstain from obscure non-English character sets? I was hoping to find a way that we can all get along, I find it kind of useless to waste my resources on mail written in languages that I have no means of interpreting. > If everyone did what your proposing then senders would have hundreds > of different rules they would have to follow, over and above the normal > RFCs. Well, in real life as well as on-line we have thousands of rules and customs, implicit or written, on communication and gestures. There are best practices on how to communicate in e-mail and on mailling lists, usage of smileys and other types of mood-expression, and proclaimed best practices on how to quote. You regularly see people complaining about top posting. Then, line wrapping, or people who don't delete the trailing message part that they don't reply to etc. I don't see a recommendation on character sets as much different. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 10:53:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8987916A407 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C7143D46 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:53:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so582965uge for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 03:53:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JV3fUgidvD9X8P2IV69Wtxp4ybTm9PjFgEuDmoROtU93Np7U/luVf5k60rgNIHWNQwArtROzIzZSVAx3wQfjWQ237JJP9HJ0tQ32A0jGfwAgMPe51XsecjVgSHX7jqXsznftrSDias7YlYw8uNAWY9l0rrejRvCc9HDk5Mr4R54= Received: by 10.67.93.6 with SMTP id v6mr6601903ugl; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 03:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.86.18 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 03:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20610150353u3f046658w92e35ebb5814ddf8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 06:53:52 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <453209DD.8080005@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20610141440m66306927vc99186c9176a2a4f@mail.gmail.com> <453209DD.8080005@locolomo.org> Subject: Re: USB Mass Storage stopped working, help requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:53:54 -0000 On 10/15/06, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Jim Stapleton wrote: > > > It used to work on this machine, the kernel/world has not been > > recompiled/reinstalled since then. However, A USB drive that used to > > work (and still works in windows) no longer works in FreeBSD. When I > > plug in the drive, the /dev/da* devices do not show up. The system is > > running 6.1. > > When you plug in the USB drive, lines should be appended to the dmesg of > the kernel identifying the device - or any errors. Please post that. > > > The handbook says I need these: > > device scbus > > device da > > device pass > > device uhci > > device ohci > > device usb > > device umass > > You may need ehci if this is USB 2.0, but I think it would otherwise > fall back on either ohci or uhci. > > > Scanning dmesg for usb, I get: > > sjss@aragorn 17:32:22 (0) /usr/src > dmesg | grep usb > > usb0: on uhci0 > > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > > usb1: on uhci1 > > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > > usb2: on uhci2 > > usb2: USB revision 1.0 > > usb3: on uhci3 > > usb3: USB revision 1.0 > > usb4: EHCI version 1.0 > > usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 > > usb4: on ehci0 > > usb4: USB revision 2.0 > > See comment above on dmesg. You don't get all the relevant info by > grepping for usb. > > > The results from usbdevs: > > sjss@aragorn 17:34:11 (0) /usr/src > sudo usbdevs > > addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel > > addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel > > addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel > > addr 2: USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse, Logitech > > addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel > > addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel > > addr 2: iAUDIO X5, Cowon Systems, Inc. > > Is that with the device plugged in? If so, seems logical that there is > no device in /dev because it is not found. > > Cheers, Erik > > -- > Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org > X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt > Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 > OK, here's the full dmesg. It's the IAUDIO X5 devices (I just use it as a portable hard drive a lot, which is why I called it that). After unplugging/plugging it in several times, I noticed my dmesg doesn't change: Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #1: Mon Jul 24 16:10:27 EDT 2006 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JIMKERN Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T1300 @ 1.66GHz (1662.52-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6e8 Stepping = 8 Features=0xafe9fbff Features2=0xc1a9,> real memory = 526843904 (502 MB) avail memory = 506183680 (482 MB) ACPI APIC Table: ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: on motherboard acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0.PCIB.DOCK._STA] (Node 0xc3241360), AE_NOT_EXIST ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0.PCIB.DOCK._STA] (Node 0xc3241360), AE_NOT_EXIST ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0.PCIB.DOCK._STA] (Node 0xc3241360), AE_NOT_EXIST ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0.PCIB.DOCK._STA] (Node 0xc3241360), AE_NOT_EXIST Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_perf0: on cpu0 acpi_perf0: failed in PERF_STATUS attach device_attach: acpi_perf0 attach returned 6 acpi_perf0: on cpu0 acpi_perf0: failed in PERF_STATUS attach device_attach: acpi_perf0 attach returned 6 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 battery0: on acpi0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 acpi_video0: port 0x1800-0x1807 mem 0xdc100000-0xdc17ffff,0xc0000000-0xcfffffff,0xdc200000-0xdc23ffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 pci0: at device 2.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 27.0 (no driver attached) pcib1: irq 17 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib1 pcib2: irq 16 at device 28.1 on pci0 pci3: on pcib2 pcib3: irq 18 at device 28.2 on pci0 pci5: on pcib3 pci5: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) uhci0: port 0x1820-0x183f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x1840-0x185f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0x1860-0x187f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0x1880-0x189f irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xdc444000-0xdc4443ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb4: EHCI version 1.0 usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4: on ehci0 usb4: USB revision 2.0 uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered umass0: Cowon Systems, Inc. iAUDIO X5, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 pcib4: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci7: on pcib4 cbb0: at device 6.0 on pci7 cbb0: Found memory at dc007000 cbb0: Secondary bus is 0 cbb0: Setting primary bus to 7 cbb0: Secondary bus set to 8 subbus 9 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 fwohci0: <1394 Open Host Controller Interface> mem 0xdc006000-0xdc0067ff,0xdc000000-0xdc003fff irq 17 at device 6.1 on pci7 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=0) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:08:0d:a0:d1:44:35:57 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) pci7: at device 6.2 (no driver attached) pci7: at device 6.3 (no driver attached) fxp0: port 0x4000-0x403f mem 0xdc005000-0xdc005fff irq 20 at device 8.0 on pci7 miibus0: on fxp0 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:a0:d1:44:35:57 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x18b0-0x18bf at device 31.2 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) acpi_tz0: on acpi0 acpi_tz1: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xce800-0xcffff,0xdc000-0xdffff,0xe0000-0xe17ff on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 8250 or not responding sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ums0: Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse, rev 2.00/22.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 8 buttons and Z dir. Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1662515930 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec Status is 0x30000006 ad0: 57231MB at ata0-master UDMA33 acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA33 umass0: at uhub4 port 5 (addr 2) disconnected Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a umass0: detached umass0: Cowon Systems, Inc. iAUDIO X5, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT module_register: module uhub/umass already exists! Module uhub/umass failed to register: 17 umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT umass0: at uhub4 port 5 (addr 2) disconnected umass0: detached usb4: port reset timeout uhub4: port 5 reset failed TGhanks, -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 12:31:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58ADC16A407 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:31:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from khaled@hadara.ps) Received: from mail2.palnet.com (mail2.palnet.com [217.66.226.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE4443D68 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:31:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled@hadara.ps) Received: from dogbert.palnet.com ([192.116.17.51] helo=[10.0.0.207]) by mail2.palnet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZ4AE-000Jj3-NU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:28:18 +0300 Message-ID: <45322A1D.8070204@hadara.ps> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:31:25 +0200 From: "Khaled J. Hussein" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060911) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: PHP new vulnarabilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:31:31 -0000 hi all last time i found this when i run portaudit -Fda Affected package: php5-5.1.6 Type of problem: php -- _ecalloc Integer Overflow Vulnerability. Reference: how can i fix this -- Best regards, **************************** Khaled J. Hussein System Administrator Hadara Technologies Group khaled@hadara.ps http://www.palnet.com Tel. +972 2-240-3434 Fax. +972 2-240-3430 **************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 12:49:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6510116A4A0 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@ml.erje.net) Received: from smtpout-1.iphouse.net (smtpout-1.iphouse.net [216.250.188.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB96C43D49 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:49:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@ml.erje.net) Received: from smtpout-1.iphouse.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by outbound-clamsmtpd.iphouse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A737A2AC53E for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:49:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ziemel.erje.net (ismet.erje.net [213.84.32.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpout-1.iphouse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566112AC53B for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:49:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ismet.erje.net (ismet.erje.net [IPv6:2001:888:1f33::8e45:7e]) by ziemel.erje.net (PostFix 2.3.3) with ESMTP id A9198128831 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:46:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: by ismet.erje.net (PostFix 2.3.3, from userid 3003) id 69B6916C5DD; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:47:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:43:33 +0200 From: Robert Joosten To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061015124332.GC806@iphouse.com> References: <45322A1D.8070204@hadara.ps> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45322A1D.8070204@hadara.ps> X-ICQ: 13643672 X-geek-code-v3.1: G!>CS@O dx>--@ s: a31(32) C+++ UBL++++$ P++ L-@+++$ !E W(+) N+++(*) o-- K- w- O- M- V- PS+@ PE- Y+ PGP++ t- 5- X- R* !tv b++@ DI++ D G-- e@ h*(+) r>+@ z+c X-FreeBSD: 026746 X-Mobile/GSM/cell: +3162526777 X-msn: BlixKater X-No-rights-can-be-derived: Indeed X-Face: 0[uRd; X4=_; G; $DL6Wm=\]R/TWu1f+t|,Li1Q-maBcUyCJsAw(Nmj-(aDA!Kk#hLr#njX9T@U-rQm?Z53"_]SBYab3-NCkCN/{1-#0T4U1Ry"TPY~dtpzfxs$9"BrXKPylt/#5QQb/y+|LF}; X-bored-?-crack-this: 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 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-ziemel.erje.net-MailScanner: Ok, found to be clean X-Spam-Status: No X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: PHP new vulnarabilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:49:03 -0000 Hi Khaled, > Affected package: php5-5.1.6 > Type of problem: php -- _ecalloc Integer Overflow Vulnerability. > > how can i fix this Compile php from source after applying http://www.hardened-php.net/files/CVE-2006-4812.patch ? I dodn't deploy 5 yet, but maybe an other fix is underway ? Hth. Regards, Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 13:12:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF0A16A40F for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elessar@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6360843D49 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:12:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elessar@bsdforen.de) Received: from loki.starkstrom.lan (p549CF82C.dip.t-dialin.net [84.156.248.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C40F424109 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:12:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:12:15 +0200 From: Joerg Pernfuss To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061015151215.15a4062e@loki.starkstrom.lan> In-Reply-To: <45322A1D.8070204@hadara.ps> References: <45322A1D.8070204@hadara.ps> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.2.3 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_xb3ifI11KSy21F1WTaAJH.F; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: PHP new vulnarabilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:12:55 -0000 --Sig_xb3ifI11KSy21F1WTaAJH.F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:31:25 +0200 "Khaled J. Hussein" wrote: > hi all >=20 > last time i found this when i run portaudit -Fda >=20 > Affected package: php5-5.1.6 > Type of problem: php -- _ecalloc Integer Overflow Vulnerability. > Reference: > >=20 > how can i fix this update ypur portstree. you'll get php5-5.1.6_1 which fixes the _ecalloc overflow, but not yet the open_basedir race condition. Joerg --=20 | /"\ ASCII ribbon | GnuPG Key ID | e86d b753 3deb e749 6c3a | | \ / campaign against | 0xbbcaad24 | 5706 1f7d 6cfd bbca ad24 | | X HTML in email | .the next sentence is true. | | / \ and news | .the previous sentence was a lie. | --Sig_xb3ifI11KSy21F1WTaAJH.F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFMjOwH31s/bvKrSQRAl+cAJ9MR1Bm1nrcB2dzSlexJiinyqZCBwCfffiq qEFio0+FWeHxKCA0rM5rTSA= =l65e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_xb3ifI11KSy21F1WTaAJH.F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 13:29:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7082616A415 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:29:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33315.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33315.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9ADEE43D6D for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:29:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 30868 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Oct 2006 13:29:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sky9OOJk1YiTZ5i8Y5uDr/xWRnZJM5Ax+LD485VFipkkoV2/sC2gw18Q1dzjZ2Joby/nw8JSyURo8/8H3XAojY54+zd14QisYTbZVPmoB+4iP+i6DfttvfAn6Ek3r3hLMEXPwV34dhPkf/j+AecDGYDgmf8gLhtD5zLEI60ypUs= ; Message-ID: <20061015132910.30866.qmail@web33315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.34.182.15] by web33315.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 06:29:10 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 06:29:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Danial Thom To: NOC Meganet , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, performance@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200610150010.59782.tec@mega.net.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:29:11 -0000 --- NOC Meganet wrote: > On Saturday 14 October 2006 17:13, Danial Thom > wrote: > > The fact that a processor has 2 cores doesn't > > mean you have to use them, just like a MB > with 2 > > sockets doesn't need both to be used. If the > OS > > is faster with 1 processor than 2, then you > only > > use one of the cores. The concept that you > have > > to fire up both of them just because they're > > there is just stupid. > > > > you also can pick yourself in one eye and still > can see with the other or you > can cut one leg and hop around on the other, > great ideas you have Wait, this is interesting. So even though you can demonstrate that for most large networking tasks 2 cores is actually slower than 1, you still use 2 cores? Yikes. All of the clowns that called themselves networking gurus running MP systems in 4.x continue to be clowns in general. I guess if you don't understand the concepts, then you have no chance of every being any good at anything > > so then your smart tip is running 4.11-UP on > Tyan S4882D with 4 Opterons 8xx > dual-core? mhhh ... No, my smart tip is to buy hardware that suits the operating system and the task. I can get better performance than you with a single 2.8Ghz opteron running 4.x for $1000 less per system. If you use that hardware with Freebsd, you are a clown, pure and simple, big red nose and all. You just have no idea what you're doing and your wasting either your or your company's money. If you bought that hardward anticipating that 7+ or 8+ or whatever they're saying now might be able to use it thats one thing, but wasting money on big honking hardware that isn't faster than less expensive hardware is just plain stupid. > > > Freebsd 4.11 is dead because of a stupid > decision > > but people who thought that MP would have > been > > working 2 years ago. They continue to not be > able > > to promise any scalability in the foreseeable > > future, so maybe they need to revisit the > > decision. > > > > yes! and I also prefere horses with wagons > instead of red V12 cars and even > this guys know that horses are better and put a > horse into their logo ... The fallacy of your analogy is that the red cars can beat the horse and buggy in a race. Unfortunately, FreeBSD 6.x with 4 processors can't beat 4.x with one, which is the entire point of this thread. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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(nathan.lasseter@btinternet.com@89.240.213.139 with plain) by smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Oct 2006 15:36:12 -0000 Message-ID: <45325543.30406@btinternet.com> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:35:31 +0100 From: Nathan Lasseter User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: FreeBSD Loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:36:17 -0000 Hi I tried to install FreeBSD, but Windows hogs all the drivespace. Now after aborting the installer, every time I power on, the Loader appears. How do I remove it? Thanks Nathan. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 15:46:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB7216A492 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "") Received: from smtp.andrew.cmu.edu (smtp.andrew.cmu.edu [128.2.10.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C70743D58 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:46:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "") Received: from mail8.andrew.cmu.edu (MAIL8.andrew.cmu.edu [128.2.10.138]) by smtp.andrew.cmu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9FFk53d015322 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:46:05 -0400 Received: (from cyrus@localhost) by mail8.andrew.cmu.edu (8.13.5/8.13.4) id k9FFk4OK000114 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:46:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mail8.andrew.cmu.edu: cyrus set sender to <> using -f Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:46:04 -0400 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 From: To: In-Reply-To: <200610151546.k9FFk0sP011672@grapenut.srv.cs.cmu.edu> Auto-Submitted: auto-replied (vacation) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 128.2.10.81 Subject: Re: [PMX:VIRUS] Delivery failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:46:08 -0000 Hello, It's Homecoming 2006. I will be on campus all day Thursday and Friday. Celine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 16:48:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5051116A407 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:48:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1161362894.48ebd1@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (3s1.com [209.161.205.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BBFE43D5F for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:48:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david+dated+1161362894.48ebd1@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 3s1.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9FGmEDb033477 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:48:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1161362894.48ebd1@skytracker.ca) Received: (from david@localhost) by 3s1.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9FGmEjL033476 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:48:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1161362894.48ebd1@skytracker.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: 3s1.com: david set sender to david+dated+1161362894.48ebd1@skytracker.ca using -f Received: by 3s1.com (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1000); Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:48:14 -0400 Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:48:13 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061015164813.GA31988@skytracker.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.5 (Fettercairn) From: David Banning Cc: Subject: imap "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE" question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:48:21 -0000 I am using imap-uw and so I am familiar with the "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE" email which stays on the server. In my case, I read my mail -on- the server so I see this email all the time. Since I use imap as well, deleting it only causes it to come back, I observe. I find this annoying, so my question is whether -all- imap servers in the ports have this message that appears. If not, maybe I'll install another. Otherwise I will learn to live with it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 16:50:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2479716A407 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:50:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE28E43D66 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:49:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with SMTP id CAA26070; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:49:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:49:10 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Erik Norgaard In-Reply-To: <20061015120043.E37EF16A5CF@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Beech Rintoul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Non English Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:50:03 -0000 On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:47:37 +0200 > From: Erik Norgaard > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> I have noted however, that some subscribers to this list write english > >> encoded in one of the above character sets, I don't know enough about > >> the character set definition, but it seems that English characters are a > >> subset of any character set? > >> > >> What is the recommended policy here? Should subscribers be advised to > >> change character set when posting to the list? > > > > No. It's the responsibility of the person doing the filtering - in this > > case you - > > to exempt any known good e-mail sender from your filters. > > > You know damn well that legitimate mailing list mail comes from > > > > mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) > > > > it's right in the headers of the messages on the list. > > First: You know all too well that filtering based on "Received" header > fields is not reliable - any decent spammer know how to forge that. > Accepting mail from a particular host should be done even before the > mail delivery starts. Ted's talking about the _first_ Received header, see mine below. It's the only one you _can_ rely on, assuming your mailserver isn't lying to you. Subsequent headers, sure, all can be faked, trust noone .. :) > Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) > by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with ESMTP id WAA18000 > for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:02:19 +1000 (EST) > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) There's the verified IP address of the connecting peer mailserver, that IP's reverse resolution from DNS, and the HELO presented. Any and all of which can be analysed, looked up in maps, blacklisted, whitelisted, or filtered any way you want, no? > Second: If you know postfix, you also know that header filtering is > independent of other checks, even the result of filtering on individual > header lines are independent. Does that mean you can't black/grey/whitelist by connecting mailserver? > So the ideal you mention is not an option until a complete public list > of authorized mail servers is available and all mail relayed through > these requires authentication. That's the 'solution' the mega players appear to be proposing. And who then authorises whom to run mailservers? What about, er, us? Shudder. > Or do you have the solution that does not imply accepting any of a > myriad of character sets? > > I'd be happy to implement that, but I don't want to open my mail server > to receive mail I have no means of reading and understanding just > because it is RFC compliant. Like any one, you can reject any mail you don't fancy, for whatever reason you don't want it. That doesn't require proposing that others should do likewise, as in wanting to specify 'standards' for lists. As Ted pointed out, various people often post perfectly intelligible messages in English in the various FreeBSD lists, reporting non-Roman charsets. I could mention one regular poster (and committer) whose messages provide no charset information at all :) > > You have no right to > > force other people to conform to what you feel is acceptable formatting > > of their message as long as they meet the SMTP rfc standards. That's > > why we have RFC's. > > You you know perfectly well that content filtering is not based on the > RFC's on SMTP but rather on the Internet Message Format and various > RFC's on MIME - but I assume that you meant to refer to these. > > Basically what you say here is that spammers have every right to flood > mail servers as long as they do so compliant with the RFC's? Have you noticed a lot of non-Roman charset spam on the FreeBSD lists? > I don't force anyone to conform to any arbitrary standards that I decide > upon, but I have every legitimate right to reject anything that doesn't > conform to my arbitrary standards. Of course. > Yet, it is somewhat implicit that this is an English language list, any > one writing in a different language may be lucky to find someone who can > respond in their language, but are just as often referred to one of the > language specific lists - if their message is not simply ignored. We're not - with respect to suggesting 'rules' for these lists - talking about non English language messages. As you say, they get dealt with, often offlist, by someone helpful who knows that language. So this is about whether to 'enforce' particular charsets for messages in English. > So we do actually impose some arbitrary rule on subscribers, namely to > write in English. Given that we find it reasonable to impose such a > rule, then why is it unreasonable to impose that they should abstain > from obscure non-English character sets? Because it's unnecessary, as well as arbitary, to filter list messages by charset alone as an unassociated variable. Sure, it might be a hint in the mix to give some points. The FreeBSD lists are mostly incredibly spam free, but I doubt that much of that filtering is based on charsets. > I was hoping to find a way that we can all get along, I find it kind of > useless to waste my resources on mail written in languages that I have > no means of interpreting. So reject any mail you want to yourself, on whatever basis you choose, so it's not a problem for you. But please don't need everyone to do the same. You may miss some messages from some of those pesky Russians, for example, but I often find them handy. Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 17:10:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3122916A403; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C321843D73; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:10:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE0B6861D6A6; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:10:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id BkjcuxUum2Pf; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id A5EF36861D6A3; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:10:52 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061015171052.GA12803@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org References: <20061015164813.GA31988@skytracker.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061015164813.GA31988@skytracker.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Cc: Subject: Re: imap "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE" question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:10:25 -0000 On Sun, Oct 15, 2006, David Banning wrote: >I am using imap-uw and so I am familiar with the >"DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE" email which stays on the server. > >In my case, I read my mail -on- the server so I see this email all the >time. Since I use imap as well, deleting it only causes it to come back, >I observe. > >I find this annoying, so my question is whether -all- imap servers >in the ports have this message that appears. If not, maybe I'll >install another. Otherwise I will learn to live with it. No all IMAP servers don't have this message. We've been using courier-imap for about six years, and it uses Maildir stores (one file per message) and doesn't need that. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 ``Anyone who thinks Microsoft never does anything truly innovative isn't paying attention to the part of the company that pushes the state of its art: Microsoft's legal department.'' --Ed Foster, InfoWorld Gripe Line columnist From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 17:10:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3122916A403; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C321843D73; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:10:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE0B6861D6A6; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:10:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id BkjcuxUum2Pf; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id A5EF36861D6A3; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:10:52 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061015171052.GA12803@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org References: <20061015164813.GA31988@skytracker.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061015164813.GA31988@skytracker.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Cc: Subject: Re: imap "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE" question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:10:25 -0000 On Sun, Oct 15, 2006, David Banning wrote: >I am using imap-uw and so I am familiar with the >"DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE" email which stays on the server. > >In my case, I read my mail -on- the server so I see this email all the >time. Since I use imap as well, deleting it only causes it to come back, >I observe. > >I find this annoying, so my question is whether -all- imap servers >in the ports have this message that appears. If not, maybe I'll >install another. Otherwise I will learn to live with it. No all IMAP servers don't have this message. We've been using courier-imap for about six years, and it uses Maildir stores (one file per message) and doesn't need that. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. 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User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061015) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Jeremy References: <20061011121334.98368.qmail@web88302.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <452E2106.7020209@gmail.com> <20061015104039.GD1239@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20061015104039.GD1239@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 OpenPGP: id=2569D30B; url=http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/export?id=-8883115982484548853&created=1138842246000 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oUlEQVQY043QsQ2DMBCF4RdRpPQIbBIPlQFcZgxGsaUUlDcCdCkJosES8cXPFkJKFCk0n2z/dwXQ 8uGDWYUsBz7zEO0wLk2AwYgTyXVJdCAv7UlynahDsj7AZqyghV6ukiw0zSQAjidVXxkKEwcieiYr Gi6L3OkKiYgwUQl5Z4QwWWFqKXuyHQkH6tsfpU4/eJq73hA3M+KcL9u1DPivX/cGp2DdNlc2XdMA AAAASUVORK5CYII= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org, Michael S , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: dictionaries/spellchecking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:30:18 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Peter Jeremy said the following on 15.10.2006 13:40: > On Thu, 2006-Oct-12 14:03:34 +0300, Simon Phoenix wrote: >> 1)Download >> http://ftp.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/dictionaries/DicOOo.sxw > > Note that this works only for OOo 1.1. It crashes OOo 2.x > I use this method for OO-2.0.3. Works without crashes. - -- Best regards, Simon Phoenix (Phoenix Lab.) - --------------------------------------------------------------- KeyID: 0x2569D30B Fingerprint: 78FC 5C40 07CC D331 148E CC79 84B8 D514 2569 D30B - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFMnAXhLjVFCVp0wsRCtRHAKCophQo2hQkigho1IfXwX5KoPYLBwCgjPj4 q3F+dQA8YWRkopDClQs1Ky8= =HW76 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 17:39:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F4A16A40F for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:39:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22D943D5C for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:39:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9FHdCjV006215 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:39:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:39:11 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <45322A1D.8070204@hadara.ps> <20061015151215.15a4062e@loki.starkstrom.lan> In-Reply-To: <20061015151215.15a4062e@loki.starkstrom.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610151239.12127.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: PHP new vulnarabilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:39:15 -0000 On Sunday 15 October 2006 08:12, Joerg Pernfuss wrote: > On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:31:25 +0200 > > "Khaled J. Hussein" wrote: > > hi all > > > > last time i found this when i run portaudit -Fda > > > > Affected package: php5-5.1.6 > > Type of problem: php -- _ecalloc Integer Overflow Vulnerability. > > Reference: > > >2df.html> > > > > how can i fix this > > update ypur portstree. you'll get php5-5.1.6_1 which fixes the _ecalloc > overflow, but not yet the open_basedir race condition. > > Joerg ive been scratching my head on this one for a few days too. i have a box at home, that is running 6.2-PRERELEASE. when i try to install the lang/php5 port, i get: [root@athena /usr/ports/lang/php5]# make install clean ===> php5-5.1.6_1 has known vulnerabilities: => php -- open_basedir Race Condition Vulnerability. Reference: => Please update your ports tree and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php5. however, my server is running the same port, with no issue whatsoever. [root@zeus /etc/mail]# pkg_info | grep php5 php5-5.1.6_1 (and many extensions too) perplexing that one box could have it, while another one (using the same updated ports tree), refuses it. could be related to the code branch im following on my workstaion versus my server? thanks, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 17:40:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1205816A4AB for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:40:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from mail42.e.nsc.no (mail42.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B6043D95 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:40:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from [84.202.101.97] (084202101097.customer.alfanett.no [84.202.101.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail42.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k9FHe1u6029229 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:40:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <45327268.4020205@netscape.net> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:39:52 +0200 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45325543.30406@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: <45325543.30406@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD Loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:40:23 -0000 Nathan Lasseter wrote: > Hi > I tried to install FreeBSD, but Windows hogs all the drivespace. Now > after aborting the installer, every time I power on, the Loader appears. > How do I remove it? It sounds like the installer got far enough to change the active slice (partition). If so, you might be able to correct it by using "fdisk -a" from the boot menu of your current installation or by means of the CD. Or it might be easier to use your Windows CD, if there is such an option there. Or you might have an old DOS boot diskette with FDISK on it. You will normally have to remove any boot sector protection in the BIOS in order to change the active slice (partition). -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 17:50:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC13C16A417 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdlists@bsdunix.ch) Received: from mail01.solnet.ch (mail01.solnet.ch [212.101.4.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6986243D66 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:50:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdlists@bsdunix.ch) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail01.solnet.ch Received: from mail01.solnet.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail01.solnet.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id bwhy3E4EFZ+X; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:50:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [82.220.17.23]) by mail01.solnet.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B16762519; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:50:39 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <453274C3.7090409@bsdunix.ch> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:49:55 +0200 From: Thomas User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Macintosh/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Horne References: <45322A1D.8070204@hadara.ps> <20061015151215.15a4062e@loki.starkstrom.lan> <200610151239.12127.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: <200610151239.12127.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP new vulnarabilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:50:43 -0000 Hi Jonathan Jonathan Horne schrieb: > On Sunday 15 October 2006 08:12, Joerg Pernfuss wrote: >> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:31:25 +0200 >> >> "Khaled J. Hussein" wrote: >>> hi all >>> >>> last time i found this when i run portaudit -Fda >>> >>> Affected package: php5-5.1.6 >>> Type of problem: php -- _ecalloc Integer Overflow Vulnerability. >>> Reference: >>> >> 2df.html> >>> >>> how can i fix this >> update ypur portstree. you'll get php5-5.1.6_1 which fixes the _ecalloc >> overflow, but not yet the open_basedir race condition. >> >> Joerg > > ive been scratching my head on this one for a few days too. i have a box at > home, that is running 6.2-PRERELEASE. when i try to install the lang/php5 > port, i get: > > [root@athena /usr/ports/lang/php5]# make install clean > ===> php5-5.1.6_1 has known vulnerabilities: > => php -- open_basedir Race Condition Vulnerability. > Reference: > > => Please update your ports tree and try again. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php5. > > however, my server is running the same port, with no issue whatsoever. > > [root@zeus /etc/mail]# pkg_info | grep php5 > php5-5.1.6_1 > (and many extensions too) > > perplexing that one box could have it, while another one (using the same > updated ports tree), refuses it. could be related to the code branch im > following on my workstaion versus my server? Maybe the bug was not in your vuxml when you compiled php5-5.1.6_1. You can use: make -DDISABLE_VULNERABILITIES install clean It will ignore the vuxml entry. Cheers, Thomas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 18:04:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD4A16A407 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from mail.stovebolt.com (mail.stovebolt.com [66.221.101.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D662743D66 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:04:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (adsl-65-69-141-242.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [65.69.141.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.stovebolt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B8E114307 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:05:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:03:59 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <881EC4C4A4CF64A80537FA61@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> In-Reply-To: <200610151239.12127.freebsd@dfwlp.com> References: <45322A1D.8070204@hadara.ps> <20061015151215.15a4062e@loki.starkstrom.lan> <200610151239.12127.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.5 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========D37C02CF48AAD4BBFD9A==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: PHP new vulnarabilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:04:09 -0000 --==========D37C02CF48AAD4BBFD9A========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On October 15, 2006 12:39:11 PM -0500 Jonathan Horne = wrote: > > ive been scratching my head on this one for a few days too. i have a > box at home, that is running 6.2-PRERELEASE. when i try to install the > lang/php5 port, i get: > > [root@athena /usr/ports/lang/php5]# make install clean > =3D=3D=3D> php5-5.1.6_1 has known vulnerabilities: > =3D> php -- open_basedir Race Condition Vulnerability. > Reference: > 62df.html> =3D> Please update your ports tree and try again. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php5. > > however, my server is running the same port, with no issue whatsoever. > That's because you installed the port on the server *before* the=20 vulnerability was found. > [root@zeus /etc/mail]# pkg_info | grep php5 > php5-5.1.6_1 > (and many extensions too) > > perplexing that one box could have it, while another one (using the same > updated ports tree), refuses it. could be related to the code branch im > following on my workstaion versus my server? > No. It's related to the timing of when a security vulnerability was=20 discovered. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========D37C02CF48AAD4BBFD9A==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 18:07:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4246316A47B for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from mail.stovebolt.com (webmail.stovebolt.com [66.221.101.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F02D43D5C for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:07:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (adsl-65-69-141-242.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [65.69.141.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.stovebolt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FBB114307 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:08:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:07:15 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <0F7C0CB4C34ECD44CCF3CDD0@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> In-Reply-To: <453274C3.7090409@bsdunix.ch> References: <45322A1D.8070204@hadara.ps> <20061015151215.15a4062e@loki.starkstrom.lan> <200610151239.12127.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <453274C3.7090409@bsdunix.ch> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.5 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========64BA46DEEBADEB46244D==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: PHP new vulnarabilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:07:21 -0000 --==========64BA46DEEBADEB46244D========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On October 15, 2006 7:49:55 PM +0200 Thomas =20 wrote: > > Maybe the bug was not in your vuxml when you compiled php5-5.1.6_1. You > can use: > make -DDISABLE_VULNERABILITIES install clean > It will ignore the vuxml entry. > No offense, but anybody who *deliberately* installs a vulnerable version=20 of php in *today's* world, is an absolute fool. Some of us are *stuck*=20 with the vulnerable version, because we installed before the vulnerability = was found. We can't go back because previous versions are *also*=20 vulnerable. But *deliberately* installing it when you *know* it's vulnerable - and one = of the most attacked applications on the internet? Foolhardy doesn't=20 quite grasp the insanity of that. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========64BA46DEEBADEB46244D==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 18:33:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15A916A403 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:33:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0591A43D45 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:33:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so1594018nfc for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:33:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RsCGOtJUwTZkXDYZdV5s/nKT6vu0RWe3JPT97ZjuLPGm363of39BzjSd3SeIMdE6ClMocEBfn0Ch5kaDZ1NKIaAUFtAoWmSuJyi6SvJkynHRWaAgHfUsESY4R4TssMHxEs9dGzbTG+GuvmD8prn6ve6D/VFU/OHURdwju0oazLY= Received: by 10.82.131.1 with SMTP id e1mr819380bud; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.175.7 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:33:41 -0500 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Bjoern Thomsen" In-Reply-To: <0ML25U-1GYlyI3DiK-0007pN@mrelayeu.kundenserver.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <0ML25U-1GYlyI3DiK-0007pN@mrelayeu.kundenserver.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg -configure results a black screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:33:43 -0000 On 10/14/06, Bjoern Thomsen wrote: > I am new to FreeBSD. I am trying to configure Xorg but when I fire up the > command > > "Xorg -configure" I get back a black screen. When I try to start X it is > telling me a failure message: > > "Can't open display" . I have always had to edit the resulting ~/xorg.conf.new to add the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines to match my monitor, given that Xorg seems to not detect my primitive hardware perfectly. You may want to look up your own monitor timings, as these will likely not work. Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" HorizSync 31-92 VertRefresh 55-160 EndSection -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 18:50:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378DF16A403 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:50:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A545843D45 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:50:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from localhost (c-71-60-174-60.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.60.174.60]) (AUTH: LOGIN wmoran, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:50:35 -0400 id 00056405.453282FB.00017E1F Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:50:34 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Paul Schmehl Message-Id: <20061015145034.0f039b05.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <0F7C0CB4C34ECD44CCF3CDD0@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> References: <45322A1D.8070204@hadara.ps> <20061015151215.15a4062e@loki.starkstrom.lan> <200610151239.12127.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <453274C3.7090409@bsdunix.ch> <0F7C0CB4C34ECD44CCF3CDD0@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP new vulnarabilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:50:37 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On October 15, 2006 7:49:55 PM +0200 Thomas > wrote: > > > > Maybe the bug was not in your vuxml when you compiled php5-5.1.6_1. You > > can use: > > make -DDISABLE_VULNERABILITIES install clean > > It will ignore the vuxml entry. > > > No offense, but anybody who *deliberately* installs a vulnerable version > of php in *today's* world, is an absolute fool. Some of us are *stuck* > with the vulnerable version, because we installed before the vulnerability > was found. We can't go back because previous versions are *also* > vulnerable. Have you looked at the vulnerability? There are only certian coding instances that would actually open this up to any attack vector. Since the bug is in unserialize, it's pretty easy audit a program to ensure that it isn't vulnerable. "absolute fool" seems a little extreme. -- Bill Moran Six men came to kill me one time, and the best of them carried this. It's a Callahan fullbore autolock, customized trigger and double cartridge thourough-gage. It's my very favorite gun. Jayne Cobb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 18:52:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0C316A403 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:52:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elessar@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE4743D49 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:52:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elessar@bsdforen.de) Received: from loki.starkstrom.lan (p549CF82C.dip.t-dialin.net [84.156.248.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222A8424105 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:52:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:51:56 +0200 From: Joerg Pernfuss To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061015205156.161cf645@loki.starkstrom.lan> In-Reply-To: <0F7C0CB4C34ECD44CCF3CDD0@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> References: <45322A1D.8070204@hadara.ps> <20061015151215.15a4062e@loki.starkstrom.lan> <200610151239.12127.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <453274C3.7090409@bsdunix.ch> <0F7C0CB4C34ECD44CCF3CDD0@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.2.3 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_d+R1ma1p.2Ni8DubPG3fpbV; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: PHP new vulnarabilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:52:37 -0000 --Sig_d+R1ma1p.2Ni8DubPG3fpbV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:07:15 -0500 Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On October 15, 2006 7:49:55 PM +0200 Thomas > =20 > wrote: > > > > Maybe the bug was not in your vuxml when you compiled php5-5.1.6_1. > > You can use: > > make -DDISABLE_VULNERABILITIES install clean > > It will ignore the vuxml entry. > > > No offense, but anybody who *deliberately* installs a vulnerable > version of php in *today's* world, is an absolute fool. Some of us > are *stuck* with the vulnerable version, because we installed before > the vulnerability was found. We can't go back because previous > versions are *also* vulnerable. >=20 > But *deliberately* installing it when you *know* it's vulnerable - > and one of the most attacked applications on the internet? Foolhardy > doesn't quite grasp the insanity of that. Completely true, but in this situation, the update is argueably the better thing to do. With the update you trade an integer overflow against this open_basedir hole that is, as far as I know, harder to exploit and the _1 version is sure to have the suhosin 0.9.5 patch (5.1.6 can be either 0.9.3 or 0.9.5 depending on checkout date - or none at all) - and with suhosin one can disable symlink(). What may of course very well break the php "application", but this is simply "choose your poison". Joerg --=20 | /"\ ASCII ribbon | GnuPG Key ID | e86d b753 3deb e749 6c3a | | \ / campaign against | 0xbbcaad24 | 5706 1f7d 6cfd bbca ad24 | | X HTML in email | .the next sentence is true. | | / \ and news | .the previous sentence was a lie. | --Sig_d+R1ma1p.2Ni8DubPG3fpbV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFMoNNH31s/bvKrSQRAgL7AJ98IaHHVRneqO085eG55MUQsVDKDQCfToq0 gMEwWI+eP4uIIvlQGm8eKZY= =vAoK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_d+R1ma1p.2Ni8DubPG3fpbV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 19:00:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6964F16A407 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=VWDgnA+e=D4=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F84943D46 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:00:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from SRS0=VWDgnA+e=D4=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9FJ04oT070265 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:00:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) From: Mark Received-SPF: pass (asarian-host.net: 127.0.0.1 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) receiver=anonymizer.asarian-host.net; client-ip=127.0.0.1; envelope-from=; helo=clientrunner.asarian-host.net; Message-Id: <200610151900.k9FJ02nF070255@asarian-host.net> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:00:03 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-Trace: EXVlXq5MBw6/ef+1BjVUyKuVvgzDq/VV0hib/XleusNgLX3ylZO07Qmw+8wELSF9 X-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint Organization: Asarian-host To: "'FreeBSD-Questions Questions'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20061015164813.GA31988@skytracker.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Auth: Asarian-host PGP signature iQEVAwUARTKFNDFqW1BleBN9AQG3TAf+LPs0R+KYbln3x972dtpVRnNJ8VcMDam3 e5OppySG8oD4CjtU8i13Vzh7IYK/Iq9coNZ7H60+vUOyMu6oB0LhSxv4iokQc6Hw ba7T0enTS3uAJo+nLcC4qOLZIY/A8S2DMdlnLcm75MyfQ8zJbDtAzwL/Y2k4PYxi dTS99Qz1jtfi0WisClSoxUNn4rLfnX/SwfItUA6yOW1txcHcsgIEp+3WVsXjAg0l Ga2MhQ9JpZ57q0U2r6TTJUuLJ2b/SDvtiNVwO+fhK3p2MaqqxEvAKpPxQUStZdBL jkT6nGvuvIE/OGVRk3vq9soOLZ1PzrwbtoC4kzffn1vDdnbx310K6Q== =m5k6 Subject: RE: imap "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE" question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:00:08 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > David Banning > Sent: zondag 15 oktober 2006 18:49 > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: imap "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE" question > > > I am using imap-uw and so I am familiar with the > "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE" email which stays on the server. > > I find this annoying, so my question is whether -all- imap servers > in the ports have this message that appears. If not, maybe I'll > install another. Otherwise I will learn to live with it. Are you also aware you can compile at least qpopper with --enable-uw-kludge in the CONFIGURE_ARGS? That way you can use POP3 and IMAP together without mutual interference. - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 19:05:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898BB16A40F for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [80.253.10.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074E543D45 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:05:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([217.147.20.50] helo=bs1.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZBIH-0004Ua-SM; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:05:05 +0400 Received: from bsam by bs1.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZBMb-0000BG-Pu; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:09:33 +0400 To: ches@cheswick.com (ches) References: <20061015003422.E268622865@i.cheswick.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:09:33 +0400 In-Reply-To: <20061015003422.E268622865@i.cheswick.com> (ches@cheswick.com's message of "Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:34:22 -0400 (EDT)") Message-ID: <37094610@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to connect a modem to the PS2 port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:05:09 -0000 On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:34:22 -0400 (EDT) ches wrote: > I am using a laptop as a server, and need a second serial port on it. I'd > love to use the psm0 port (I know it is an RS232C serial port) connected to > a modem, but I am guessing the the psm driver is getting in the way. > It is hard to ask the right question in Google. > Anyone know how to use the PS2 port as a simple serial port? I never > use a mouse on this machine. You can't do it. But you may consider purchasing a USB to serial port(s) converter based on PL2303 (Prolific Technologies) chip. Those converters work great with FreeBSD. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 19:08:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D31016A407 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:08:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from mail.stovebolt.com (mail.stovebolt.com [66.221.101.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9103143D58 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:08:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (adsl-65-69-141-242.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [65.69.141.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.stovebolt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F79114307 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:09:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:08:03 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20061015145034.0f039b05.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> References: <45322A1D.8070204@hadara.ps> <20061015151215.15a4062e@loki.starkstrom.lan> <200610151239.12127.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <453274C3.7090409@bsdunix.ch> <0F7C0CB4C34ECD44CCF3CDD0@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> <20061015145034.0f039b05.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.5 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========98E5C5E006D6988528E9==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: PHP new vulnarabilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:08:10 -0000 --==========98E5C5E006D6988528E9========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On October 15, 2006 2:50:34 PM -0400 Bill Moran=20 wrote: > > Have you looked at the vulnerability? There are only certian coding > instances that would actually open this up to any attack vector. Since > the bug is in unserialize, it's pretty easy audit a program to ensure > that it isn't vulnerable. > > "absolute fool" seems a little extreme. Perhaps. How many people are talented enough to understand the=20 vulnerability and how it's exploited and know *for certain* that they=20 won't have a problem? It would be different if we were talking about an app that isn't exploited = much. Php is exploited every day, even when it's fully patched, due to=20 the complexity of the attacks and the lack of understanding of most people = who code in php. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========98E5C5E006D6988528E9==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 19:23:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C0316A412 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:23:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0010043D53 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:23:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [10.35.4.65] (65.4-35-10-static.chueca.wifi [10.35.4.65]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758EC2E037; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:23:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <45328A41.9040904@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:21:37 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Beech Rintoul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Non English Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:23:07 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: > Ted's talking about the _first_ Received header, see mine below. It's > the only one you _can_ rely on, assuming your mailserver isn't lying to > you. Subsequent headers, sure, all can be faked, trust noone .. :) Filtering on the Received header entries is waste of time: Only the first line is reliable, inserted by your own mail server, but in that case you can filter on the connect or HELO, which is much better because you don't waste bandwidth receiving the entire mail. I actually had spammers DDOS my connection because I didn't reject the large bulk part early enough. I temporarily had to block any connection from China and Korea. > > Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) > > by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with ESMTP id WAA18000 > > for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:02:19 +1000 (EST) > > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) > > There's the verified IP address of the connecting peer mailserver, that > IP's reverse resolution from DNS, and the HELO presented. Any and all > of which can be analysed, looked up in maps, blacklisted, whitelisted, > or filtered any way you want, no? Maybe I didn't make clear how the filtering in Postfix works? Each header line is unwrapped and then filtered independent of the others. There is no info as to if that is the first or last Received line. I can make a rule to reject the mail. And I can make a rule that accept a given header line, but the remaining header will still be filtered and possibly rejected. I can't make a header check for Received cause checks for content-type to be skipped. Nor can I make incoming mail from white listed servers skip the header checks. The two things are independent: The first applies when establishing the connection: HELO, MAIL FROM, RCPT TO etc. The header checks are invoked if the initial delivery request was accepted. Yes, that sucks, but that's how Postfix works. > > Second: If you know postfix, you also know that header filtering is > > independent of other checks, even the result of filtering on individual > > header lines are independent. > > Does that mean you can't black/grey/whitelist by connecting mailserver? No, I'm only referring to the built in header filtering capabilities. I have postgray too, and I do have freebsd white listed. Postgrey uses the MAIL FROM and RCPT TO, so it takes effect even before the DATA command. > > So the ideal you mention is not an option until a complete public list > > of authorized mail servers is available and all mail relayed through > > these requires authentication. > > That's the 'solution' the mega players appear to be proposing. And who > then authorises whom to run mailservers? What about, er, us? Shudder. Anarchy is great, but it assumes that everyone are "good". Evidently this is not the case - unfortunately. I'm one of 'us' and honestly, I don't see why it should be OK to set up a mail server without any possibility of identifying the owner or responsible, nor do I see this as a big problem: You either relay mail through your provider's mail server (which requires you to authenticate) or register your mail server with the provider. The provider can then add your info to the whois database and open your connection out. This should be trivial to implement, but currently there is no legal requirement or economic benefit for those capable to take action. For the latter, the problem is that implementing such controls only benefits everyone else. > As Ted pointed out, various people often post perfectly intelligible > messages in English in the various FreeBSD lists, reporting non-Roman > charsets. Which was exactly the problem I mentioned to OP - I mean not that intelligible messages are posted :), but they are encoded in different character sets. > I could mention one regular poster (and committer) whose > messages provide no charset information at all :) Well, his messages would be accepted since there is no character set to reject :) I absolutely would prefer not to reject any mail on the FreeBSD list, but the effect would be to accept non-FreeBSD mail that is obviously spam. If you have a solution at hand that would not open the gates to spam, please do share. > Have you noticed a lot of non-Roman charset spam on the FreeBSD lists? No, but as mentioned before: Distinguishing non-Roman charset FreeBSD mail from non-Roman non-FreeBSD spam is the problem. > Because it's unnecessary, as well as arbitary, to filter list messages > by charset alone as an unassociated variable. Sure, it might be a hint > in the mix to give some points. The FreeBSD lists are mostly incredibly > spam free, but I doubt that much of that filtering is based on charsets. As mentioned in my original post, the previous and above: The problem is that filtering mail by charset while in many cases will reject what can positively be identified as spam, in certain cases also rejects legitimate mail sent to this list. I am not the only one who wish to reject unreadable character sets, OP was asking exactly that, and I was making the point that this will get reject legitimate mail to the list. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 19:49:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2413B16A417 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F12343D8D for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:49:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so1613177nfc for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.160.2 with SMTP id i2mr6807138hue; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 2sm1097189huc.2006.10.15.12.49.16; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B92B8DE; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss.seibercom.net [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED19B82E; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:49:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:49:29 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom.NET In-Reply-To: <45328A41.9040904@locolomo.org> References: <45328A41.9040904@locolomo.org> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20061015154213.35EC.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.27 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: Non English Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:49:24 -0000 On Sunday October 15, 2006 at 03:21:37 (PM) Erik Norgaard wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: [...] > Maybe I didn't make clear how the filtering in Postfix works? Each > header line is unwrapped and then filtered independent of the others. > There is no info as to if that is the first or last Received line. > > I can make a rule to reject the mail. And I can make a rule that accept > a given header line, but the remaining header will still be filtered and > possibly rejected. > > I can't make a header check for Received cause checks for content-type > to be skipped. > > Nor can I make incoming mail from white listed servers skip the header > checks. The two things are independent: The first applies when > establishing the connection: HELO, MAIL FROM, RCPT TO etc. The header > checks are invoked if the initial delivery request was accepted. > > Yes, that sucks, but that's how Postfix works. Are you sure about that? I use Postfix myself and that does not appear to be correct, although it might be. Have you ever posted this question on the postfix forum? There are some pretty sharp individuals there who might be able to give you some advice. [...] -- Gerard "An optimist thinks that this is the best possible world. A pessimist fears that this is true." Anonymous From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 20:07:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA3216A412 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from ctb-mesg5.saix.net (ctb-mesg5.saix.net [196.25.240.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBFA543D78 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:07:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from [172.16.0.1] (dsl-145-108-198.telkomadsl.co.za [165.145.108.198]) by ctb-mesg5.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2ADC2D18 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:07:20 +0200 (SAST) From: Jonathan McKeown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:19:47 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610152219.47346.jonathan@hst.org.za> Subject: mimedefang with LDAP-enabled sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:07:12 -0000 I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction. I'm running 6.1 (the security branch) with a recently-updated ports tree (1 September). I have modified /etc/make.conf to change the options for the system sendmail, by adding these lines: SENDMAIL_CFLAGS = -I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 -DLDAPMAP SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS = -L/usr/local/lib SENDMAIL_LDADD = -lsasl2 -lldap -llber I have added the necessary ports and rebuilt world: when I run ldd /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail, I get libutil.so.5 => /lib/libutil.so.5 (0x28107000) libwrap.so.4 => /usr/lib/libwrap.so.4 (0x28113000) libssl.so.4 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.4 (0x2811a000) libcrypto.so.4 => /lib/libcrypto.so.4 (0x28148000) libsasl2.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2 (0x2823a000) libldap-2.3.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libldap-2.3.so.2 (0x2824f000) liblber-2.3.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/liblber-2.3.so.2 (0x2827f000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x2828a000) and sendmail -d0.1 -bt X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C01016A5A0 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:10:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from ketralnis.com (melchoir.ketralnis.com [68.183.67.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EB143D4C for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:10:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from [10.0.1.239] (ayla.wifi.int.ketralnis.com [10.0.1.239]) (authenticated bits=0) by ketralnis.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9FKApZU038740 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:10:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5C0D864F-AD38-42A6-9773-38748DA6A605@ketralnis.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David King Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:10:48 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: Re: Segfaulting perl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:10:55 -0000 Just to make sure that no bad library dependancies were at work, I did a 'make buildworld installworld', and a 'portupgrade -frR fetchyahoo perl openssl', to no avail (and with the same backtrace generated by gdb as below). Any ideas? On 10 Oct 2006, at 11:05, David King wrote: > When trying to run fetchyahoo (from ports), perl dumps core. It > appears to be dumping core in OpenSSL. I've tried recompiling/ > reinstalling all ports related to fetchyahoo, perl, and openssl. > This happens whether or not I enable SSL in fetchyahoo's > configuration. > > It gets as far as: > > ~% fetchyahoo > Logging in insecurely via plaintext as username on Tue Oct 10 > 09:49:20 2006 > zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) fetchyahoo > > Perl and OpenSSL have been compiled with: > > ~% egrep -i '^(COPT|CFLAG)' /etc/make.conf > CFLAGS+=-O -pipe -mtune=i686 -g > COPTFLAGS=-O -pipe -mtune=i686 -g > > Here's the output of GDB and a backtrace > > Core was generated by `perl5.8.8'. > Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/CORE/ > libperl.so...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/CORE/libperl.so > Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.4...done. > Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.4 > Reading symbols from /lib/libcrypt.so.3...done. > Loaded symbols for /lib/libcrypt.so.3 > Reading symbols from /lib/libutil.so.5...done. > Loaded symbols for /lib/libutil.so.5 > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpthread.so.2...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpthread.so.2 > Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...done. > Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.6 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/IO/ > IO.so...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/IO/IO.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Fcntl/ > Fcntl.so...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Fcntl/Fcntl.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ > MIME/Base64/Base64.so...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ > MIME/Base64/Base64.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Time/ > HiRes/HiRes.so...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Time/HiRes/ > HiRes.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Socket/ > Socket.so...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Socket/ > Socket.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Sys/ > Hostname/Hostname.so...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Sys/ > Hostname/Hostname.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ > Compress/Zlib/Zlib.so...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ > Compress/Zlib/Zlib.so > Reading symbols from /lib/libz.so.3...done. > Loaded symbols for /lib/libz.so.3 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ > HTML/Parser/Parser.so...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ > HTML/Parser/Parser.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ > Crypt/SSLeay/SSLeay.so...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ > Crypt/SSLeay/SSLeay.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.5...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.5 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.5...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.5 > Reading symbols from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done. > Loaded symbols for /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > #0 0x2839d420 in SSL_CTX_ctrl () from /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.5 > [New LWP 100179] > (gdb) bt > #0 0x2839d420 in SSL_CTX_ctrl () from /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.5 > #1 0x000001c0 in ?? () > #2 0x0000000d in ?? () > #3 0x28325000 in ?? () > #4 0x00000000 in ?? () > #5 0x283683b4 in __JCR_LIST__ () from /usr/local/lib/perl5/ > site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/Crypt/SSLeay/SSLeay.so > #6 0x00000017 in ?? () > #7 0x00000000 in ?? () > #8 0x283608af in XS_Crypt__SSLeay__CTX_new (my_perl=0x8058000, > cv=0x86b47b0) at SSLeay.xs:133 > #9 0x2810fd9f in Perl_pp_entersub (my_perl=0x8058000) at pp_hot.c: > 2913 > #10 0x280f22d9 in Perl_runops_debug (my_perl=0x8058000) at dump.c:1459 > #11 0x2809e6b1 in S_run_body (my_perl=0x8058000, oldscope=4095) at > perl.c:2366 > #12 0x2809e222 in perl_run (my_perl=0x8058000) at perl.c:2283 > #13 0x080492bc in main () > > Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 8 subversion 8) configuration: > Platform: > osname=freebsd, osvers=6.1-release-p10, archname=i386-freebsd- > thread-multi-64int > uname='freebsd melchoir.ketralnis.com 6.1-release-p10 freebsd > 6.1-release-p10 #5: mon oct 9 09:44:49 pdt 2006 > root@melchoir.ketralnis.com:usrobjusrsrcsysmelchoir i386 ' > config_args='-sde -Dprefix=/usr/local -Darchlib=/usr/local/lib/ > perl5/5.8.8/mach -Dprivlib=/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 -Dman3dir=/ > usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/perl/man/man3 -Dman1dir=/usr/local/man/ > man1 -Dsitearch=/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach - > Dsitelib=/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 -Dscriptdir=/usr/ > local/bin -Dsiteman3dir=/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/man/man3 - > Dsiteman1dir=/usr/local/man/man1 -Ui_malloc -Ui_iconv - > Uinstallusrbinperl -Dcc=cc -Duseshrplib -Dccflags=-DAPPLLIB_EXP="/ > usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN" -Doptimize=-O2 -fno-strict- > aliasing -pipe -O -pipe -mtune=i686 -g -march=pentiumpro -Ud_dosuid > -Ui_gdbm -Dusethreads=y -Dusemymalloc=n -Duse64bitint' > hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define > usethreads=define use5005threads=undef useithreads=define > usemultiplicity=define > useperlio=define d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef > use64bitint=define use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef > usemymalloc=n, bincompat5005=undef > Compiler: > cc='cc', ccflags ='-DAPPLLIB_EXP="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/ > BSDPAN" -DHAS_FPSETMASK -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -DDEBUGGING -fno- > strict-aliasing -pipe -Wdeclaration-after-statement -I/usr/local/ > include', > optimize='-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -O -pipe -mtune=i686 - > g -march=pentiumpro', > cppflags='-DAPPLLIB_EXP="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN" - > DHAS_FPSETMASK -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -DDEBUGGING -fno-strict- > aliasing -pipe -Wdeclaration-after-statement -I/usr/local/include' > ccversion='', gccversion='3.4.4 [FreeBSD] 20050518', > gccosandvers='' > intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, byteorder=12345678 > d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, > longdblsize=12 > ivtype='long long', ivsize=8, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, > Off_t='off_t', lseeksize=8 > alignbytes=4, prototype=define > Linker and Libraries: > ld='cc', ldflags ='-pthread -Wl,-E -L/usr/local/lib' > libpth=/usr/lib /usr/local/lib > libs=-lgdbm -lm -lcrypt -lutil > perllibs=-lm -lcrypt -lutil > libc=, so=so, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.so > gnulibc_version='' > Dynamic Linking: > dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' - > Wl,-R/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/CORE' > cccdlflags='-DPIC -fPIC', lddlflags='-shared -L/usr/local/lib' > > > Characteristics of this binary (from libperl): > Compile-time options: DEBUGGING MULTIPLICITY PERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT > PERL_MALLOC_WRAP USE_64_BIT_INT USE_ITHREADS > USE_LARGE_FILES USE_PERLIO USE_REENTRANT_API > Locally applied patches: > defined-or > Built under freebsd > Compiled at Oct 10 2006 08:02:48 > @INC: > /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7 > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6 > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl > /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach > /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 > . > > > Any ideas? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- David King Computer Programmer Ketralnis Systems From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 20:26:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9C716A407 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:26:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FBE43D5A for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:26:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=EbwftA583AYkBEbx+QHYgmNHLB7O0XESKK855DFGdvwwRYPxAiZLvpUMV/2Xe9cW; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [71.116.187.9] (helo=Wednesday) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GZCZ7-0005uJ-7d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:26:33 -0400 Message-ID: <018201c6f098$347cd7d0$0225a8c0@Wednesday> From: "jdow" To: References: <200610151900.k9FJ02nF070255@asarian-host.net> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:26:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-ELNK-Trace: bb89ecdb26a8f9f24d2b10475b571120dd8634dafc7a84d80ff4f5bcb4a8a2d479dacc2fd655e7ef350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.116.187.9 Subject: Re: imap "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE" question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:26:39 -0000 From: "Mark" >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >> I am using imap-uw and so I am familiar with the >> "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE" email which stays on the server. >> >> I find this annoying, so my question is whether -all- imap servers >> in the ports have this message that appears. If not, maybe I'll >> install another. Otherwise I will learn to live with it. > > Are you also aware you can compile at least qpopper with > --enable-uw-kludge in the CONFIGURE_ARGS? That way you can use POP3 and > IMAP together without mutual interference. I did that with only the UW code for years until I switched to dovecot. Dovecot has its own little peculiarity that upsets the dumb old "mail" program, at least over on that GPLed OS. I live with dovecot these days because it is simple and more or less dumb to use for my specific needs. YMMV, of course. {^_^} Joanne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 20:32:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62A516A407 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:32:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from ecluster6.tls.net (ecluster6.tls.net [65.196.224.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EDF243D49 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:32:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 23467 invoked by uid 89); 15 Oct 2006 20:31:59 -0000 Received: from 64-184-9-220.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.103?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.9.220) by auth-ecluster6.tls.net with SMTP; 15 Oct 2006 20:31:59 -0000 Message-ID: <45329AB4.1000508@pixelhammer.com> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:31:48 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45322A1D.8070204@hadara.ps> <20061015151215.15a4062e@loki.starkstrom.lan> <200610151239.12127.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <453274C3.7090409@bsdunix.ch> <0F7C0CB4C34ECD44CCF3CDD0@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> In-Reply-To: <0F7C0CB4C34ECD44CCF3CDD0@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: PHP new vulnarabilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:32:07 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On October 15, 2006 7:49:55 PM +0200 Thomas > wrote: >> >> Maybe the bug was not in your vuxml when you compiled php5-5.1.6_1. You >> can use: >> make -DDISABLE_VULNERABILITIES install clean >> It will ignore the vuxml entry. >> > No offense, but anybody who *deliberately* installs a vulnerable version > of php in *today's* world, is an absolute fool. Some of us are *stuck* > with the vulnerable version, because we installed before the > vulnerability was found. We can't go back because previous versions are > *also* vulnerable. > > But *deliberately* installing it when you *know* it's vulnerable - and > one of the most attacked applications on the internet? Foolhardy > doesn't quite grasp the insanity of that. > That is a bit extreme. I have a full workload, I put in about 60 hours a week (I work a lot of weekends, I'm working now). I have servers running all different version of apps. I can't go around upgrading everything at the drop of a hat. I would be divorced within a month. If you read the security alerts carefully you will find many require a shell (We don't offer them to clients), some require a specific app to be running that you may not need (rm -f /usr/local/bin/vulnerable_app), and sometimes a simple code audit will tell you if you are vulnerable. It is also not uncommon that a security alert is issued for a problem that has not be proven in the wild. There are plenty of reasons to not follow a security alert, many of them quite valid. Upgrading mission critical systems without throughly understanding the implications just because someone screamed SECURITY!, now that is foolhardy. DAve -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 20:48:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65FC116A40F for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gregb@west-third.com) Received: from plattsburg.west-third.com (adsl-66.112.94.216-rb3.clm.centurytel.net [66.112.94.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DF143D4C for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:48:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gregb@west-third.com) Received: (qmail 27432 invoked by uid 80); 15 Oct 2006 20:55:36 -0000 Received: from 66.112.94.216 (SquirrelMail authenticated user gregb@west-third.com) by www.west-third.com with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:55:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3833.66.112.94.216.1160945736.squirrel@www.west-third.com> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:55:36 -0500 (CDT) From: gregb@west-third.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Sunday's newbie questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:48:58 -0000 (Please CC me directly on the response, as I don't normally subscribe to the list and try to find answers via searching the archives.) Two quick questions I should know the answer to, but don't. * When installing the PHP5 port, will it automatically disable and/or uninstall the PHP4 that's already installed, or should I uninstall the latter manually beforehand? * My server runs portaudit (a helpful addition from the last guy who did some work on it), but a simple "make install" on the PHP5 port spits back a security error. What's the flag to make install around that? Many thanks, and apologies for the verrrry basic questions, Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 20:51:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034DE16A40F for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:51:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Radiofreetom@gmail.com) Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B294D43D62 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:51:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Radiofreetom@gmail.com) Received: from [69.81.63.54] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GZCx8-0006Um-Sm for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:51:23 -0400 Message-ID: <45329F41.8010105@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:51:13 -0400 From: Tom User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: f07f4199227bb5a37b86825c791b278a94f5150ab1c16ac0ca5278c929a4b8ef8e0b119557a3f2dd92e4eb0a6431b789350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.81.63.54 Cc: Subject: FREEBSD cross-platform compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:51:31 -0000 Question: Is there an alternate-platform emulator available? I have some programs that have no substitute available - and are Windows - only applications. The developer right now says that they won't work on porting to other OSs for the foreseeable future - so Linux and FreeBSD - and Mac OS, for that matter - are left hanging. Frankly, this one program in particular is the major reason I'm still running Windows at all. So, either a Windows emulator, or some way to run this program in a non-Windows environment.... Thanks! Tom S. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 20:55:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA03D16A407 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:55:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4414A43D46 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:55:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [10.35.4.65] (65.4-35-10-static.chueca.wifi [10.35.4.65]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36E82E038 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:55:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <45329FD4.4040101@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:53:40 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45328A41.9040904@locolomo.org> <20061015154213.35EC.GERARD@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20061015154213.35EC.GERARD@seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Non English Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:55:09 -0000 Gerard Seibert wrote: > On Sunday October 15, 2006 at 03:21:37 (PM) Erik Norgaard wrote: > > >> Ian Smith wrote: > > [...] > >> Maybe I didn't make clear how the filtering in Postfix works? Each >> header line is unwrapped and then filtered independent of the others. >> There is no info as to if that is the first or last Received line. >> >> I can make a rule to reject the mail. And I can make a rule that accept >> a given header line, but the remaining header will still be filtered and >> possibly rejected. >> >> I can't make a header check for Received cause checks for content-type >> to be skipped. >> >> Nor can I make incoming mail from white listed servers skip the header >> checks. The two things are independent: The first applies when >> establishing the connection: HELO, MAIL FROM, RCPT TO etc. The header >> checks are invoked if the initial delivery request was accepted. >> >> Yes, that sucks, but that's how Postfix works. > > Are you sure about that? I use Postfix myself and that does not appear > to be correct, although it might be. Have you ever posted this question > on the postfix forum? There are some pretty > sharp individuals there who might be able to give you some advice. I am certain that: 1) header/body checks are independent of the smtpd_restrictions - I can send a mail that is rejected even though I have authenticated and permit authenticated connections. 2) OK when a header line is matched does not affect the parsing of other header lines, and if you think about it you wouldn't want that: Then it would be possible to include a secret keyword or forged header line in the top of the header to get by the other rules. Basically, the only line that you can trust is the first Received which our server inserted - which as mentioned is waste to check. So, no header check in itself should allow an entire mail. There is a FILTER keyword which you can use to "tag" a mail for further content filtering. That action is taken after all the header checks have been done. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 20:57:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E10116A40F for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9721643D64 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:57:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from tripel (tripel [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9FKvf3f029884; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:57:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:56:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Tom In-Reply-To: <45329F41.8010105@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061015165607.H33448@tripel.monochrome.org> References: <45329F41.8010105@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FREEBSD cross-platform compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:57:46 -0000 On Sun, 15 Oct 2006, Tom wrote: > Is there an alternate-platform emulator available? I have some > programs that have no substitute available - and are Windows - only > applications. The developer right now says that they won't work on > porting to other OSs for the foreseeable future - so Linux and FreeBSD > - and Mac OS, for that matter - are left hanging. Frankly, this one > program in particular is the major reason I'm still running Windows at > all. So, either a Windows emulator, or some way to run this program > in a non-Windows environment.... Look at qemu or wine. Both are in ports. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 21:08:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2081F16A417 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from mail.stovebolt.com (webmail.stovebolt.com [66.221.101.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9634F43D75 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:08:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (adsl-65-69-141-242.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [65.69.141.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.stovebolt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C10114313 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:09:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:08:39 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <45329AB4.1000508@pixelhammer.com> References: <45322A1D.8070204@hadara.ps> <20061015151215.15a4062e@loki.starkstrom.lan> <200610151239.12127.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <453274C3.7090409@bsdunix.ch> <0F7C0CB4C34ECD44CCF3CDD0@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> <45329AB4.1000508@pixelhammer.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.5 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========9168764B833293E07355==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: PHP new vulnarabilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:08:56 -0000 --==========9168764B833293E07355========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On October 15, 2006 4:31:48 PM -0400 DAve =20 wrote: > > That is a bit extreme. I have a full workload, I put in about 60 hours a > week (I work a lot of weekends, I'm working now). I have servers running > all different version of apps. I can't go around upgrading everything at > the drop of a hat. I would be divorced within a month. > > If you read the security alerts carefully you will find many require a > shell (We don't offer them to clients), some require a specific app to > be running that you may not need (rm -f /usr/local/bin/vulnerable_app), > and sometimes a simple code audit will tell you if you are vulnerable. > It is also not uncommon that a security alert is issued for a problem > that has not be proven in the wild. > > There are plenty of reasons to not follow a security alert, many of them > quite valid. Upgrading mission critical systems without throughly > understanding the implications just because someone screamed SECURITY!, > now that is foolhardy. > That wasn't the situation here. Look, there are several possible scenarios where installing a vulnerable=20 app is less of a risk than not installing the app at all. Business=20 functionality *is* important. However, to arbitrarily say "Use=20 DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES" is the answer to an app that won't install is=20 always a wrong answer. *At a minimum* it should come with a warning of=20 the possible risks. Furthermore *upgrading* from a non-vulnerabile app to = a vulnerable app simply because "it's the latest" is foolhardy in the=20 extreme. I don't think my statement was any more extreme than "Just use=20 DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES and you can install the app" with no warning of=20 the risks. *Especially* when the app is as highly scrutinized as php is=20 (not to mention how vulnerabilities are being found in it all the time.) Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========9168764B833293E07355==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 21:09:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3536816A49E for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:09:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCD343D78 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:09:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [10.35.4.65] (65.4-35-10-static.chueca.wifi [10.35.4.65]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1972E038; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:09:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4532A339.80104@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:08:09 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard References: <45328A41.9040904@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <45328A41.9040904@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Beech Rintoul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Non English Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:09:38 -0000 Erik Norgaard wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: >> > So the ideal you mention is not an option until a complete public list >> > of authorized mail servers is available and all mail relayed through >> > these requires authentication. >> >> That's the 'solution' the mega players appear to be proposing. And who >> then authorises whom to run mailservers? What about, er, us? Shudder. > > I'm one of 'us' and honestly, I don't see why it should be OK to set up > a mail server without any possibility of identifying the owner or > responsible, nor do I see this as a big problem: Ironically, as if to stress the point, my reply to you got rejected (well you can find it in the archives), because my server is not on your (arbitrary) white list and the mail was not relayed through an authorized relay (mx2.freebsd.org). And I even pay extra to have a static ip, that resolves to a PTR containing the word "static" according to the IETF draft. And I actually accept connections from any server that plays by the RFC (the SMTP - strict) because I don't want to reject the large group of people who want to set up their on server... - so who is 'us'? Well, anyway, this only serves to enlighten another problem: That even if you find the solution to rejecting non-Roman non-FreeBSD mail while accepting everything from the list, people replying in those character sets will see their mail rejected because their mail doesn't go through the FreeBSD server. To avoid the above, we should recommend subscribers to the list to change their reply to when writing to the list, or configure their subscription such that mx2 will send mail regardless of the recipient being in the To/Cc header, or recommending users only to include the list as recipient... but we were against imposing rules - right? Wouldn't it be nice if there was a reliable way to determine legitimate sources...? Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 21:11:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D930716A415 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elcinturapartida@yahoo.es) Received: from web26003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web26003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF27243D77 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:11:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elcinturapartida@yahoo.es) Received: (qmail 43261 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Oct 2006 21:11:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.es; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=mwmr3pceXe1EyZN3Sc/kFwbecSEoBfOH7VN93wkBDlieKp+u8OsZoNDaj85OIvr/l9s5FHVBERVuPDl/Po3elGEnWVeHIJnandGeMBx2A5lLVPG9nrDSxztj6EbIJ5EGZJPFJSnpAP2iG+uIZJPDCSomO/BOktqFnnn9bVW9d2w= ; Message-ID: <20061015211155.43259.qmail@web26003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [80.28.3.150] by web26003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:11:55 CEST Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:11:55 +0200 (CEST) From: "David H. Guerrero" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Boot Live CDROM with Grub X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:11:57 -0000 Hello, I can make a bootable CD using GRUB + El Torito no-emulation mode. It's almost completely explained in the GRUB manual, section 3.4. I want to do more, I want to offer the user who boots from the CD Live or from a hard disk partition, it's a CD Live with XORP. So I built the following menu.lst file: default=0 timeout=10 title FreeBSD 6.1 root (hd0,0,a) kernel /boot/loader title CD Live XORP 1.3 root (hd1) kernel /boot/loader >From GRUB manual, the device syntax is like this: `(DEVICE[,PART-NUM][,BSD-SUBPART-LETTER])' `[]' means the parameter is optional. DEVICE should be either `fd' or `hd' followed by a digit, like `fd0'. Can I set CDROM device? I have added last line in device.map $ cat /boot/grub/device.map (fd0) /dev/fd0 (hd0) /dev/ad0 (hd1) /dev/acd0 Using this file I can boot " FreeBSD 6.1", but not " CD Live XORP 1.3". However when I try set CDROM on grub: grub> root (hd1) Error 21: Selected disk does not exist So the question is: how can I create a GRUB configuration to boot CD Live XORP 1.3.? Thanks in advance, David ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 21:49:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B209416A403 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:49:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (114-103-74-65.gci.net [65.74.103.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F010443D49 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:49:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@alaskaparadise.com) Received: by stargate.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 6748345A2; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:49:13 -0800 (AKDT) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: Alaska Paradise To: Erik Norgaard Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:48:54 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <45328A41.9040904@locolomo.org> <4532A339.80104@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <4532A339.80104@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart8493952.mM0kM0PcbW"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200610151349.10951.freebsd@alaskaparadise.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Non English Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:49:15 -0000 --nextPart8493952.mM0kM0PcbW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 15 October 2006 13:08, Erik Norgaard wrote: (SNIP) > Well, anyway, this only serves to enlighten another problem: That even > if you find the solution to rejecting non-Roman non-FreeBSD mail while > accepting everything from the list, people replying in those character > sets will see their mail rejected because their mail doesn't go through > the FreeBSD server. > > To avoid the above, we should recommend subscribers to the list to > change their reply to when writing to the list, or configure their > subscription such that mx2 will send mail regardless of the recipient > being in the To/Cc header, or recommending users only to include the > list as recipient... but we were against imposing rules - right? > > Wouldn't it be nice if there was a reliable way to determine legitimate > sources...? The freebsd-current@ list is doing that after a fashion. If I forget to cha= nge=20 my mail identity to freebsd@alaskaparadise com, I get sent to the moderator. The freebsd lists are almost spam free, and I would love to see exactly how= =20 they are doing it. Do any of you know if it's documented anywhere?=20 Beech =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - beech@alaskaparadise.com /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Alaska Paradise \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://www.alaskaparadise.com =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- --nextPart8493952.mM0kM0PcbW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFMqzWR5sEeCt9j00RAnvdAJ0SIVRHXAFv/Ljh5xbf8BAH7scczwCgjEMM m6WP7J11idC2v7GyfW5jcpQ= =UWKF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart8493952.mM0kM0PcbW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 22:24:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9779916A40F for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:24:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from mail45.e.nsc.no (mail45.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159C943D46 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:24:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from [84.202.101.97] (084202101097.customer.alfanett.no [84.202.101.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail45.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k9FMOfYM026836 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:24:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4532B55A.4010307@netscape.net> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:25:30 +0200 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45329F41.8010105@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <45329F41.8010105@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FREEBSD cross-platform compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:24:44 -0000 Tom wrote: > Question: > > Is there an alternate-platform emulator available? Sounds like you have already tried an emulator that did not work. Which one did you try? Have you tried Wine or Win4BSD? I have the same problem myself, so I am interested in your experiences. > I have some programs > that have no substitute available - and are Windows - only > applications. The developer right now says that they won't work on > porting to other OSs for the foreseeable future - so Linux and FreeBSD - > and Mac OS, for that matter - are left hanging. Frankly, this one > program in particular is the major reason I'm still running Windows at > all. So, either a Windows emulator, or some way to run this program in > a non-Windows environment.... Do tell us precisely which applications you are talking about. TIA. -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 22:26:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FF116A416 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:26:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afishionado@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A9843D58 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:26:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from afishionado@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1328810wxd for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:26:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ZJrP6yezo0zanVoKU26zhrLx/qSlYepM1NN2dJIfvDHraE0t37uLnvXoYlGpSty2vGT1WtpH+cf+Y4JTdFGmcnElfhLdHMUNd+3AwtA6Ei0D/3GwTj1vo58m5FeIHuEXeSsrOzIUWkrditr4TrQ2mZskCAzzMMs/uRa8+yQzMRs= Received: by 10.70.32.10 with SMTP id f10mr10136104wxf; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.112.13 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:26:02 -0700 From: "William Tracy" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:26:04 -0000 Okay. I've installed FreeBSD on my desktop. I got KDE working, and Amor is running so I have a little daemon sitting on my window. I can mount my USB card reader and open the pictures from my digital camera in Gimp. I can browse the web in Firefox. I even compiled my own kernel so that I'm all 1337. :-) Overall, I like FreeBSD--the kernel build process felt a lot smoother than Linux, the /boot and /sys file heirarchies makes more sense to me than /boot and /usr/src under Linux, and the /dev heirarchy seems sane, though it's still pretty alien to me. So far, everything I do under Linux I can do under FreeBSD. FreeBSD is nice, but I haven't seen anything really *compelling* about it. FreeBSD might be more stable as a server, but for my desktop Linux has proven more than stable enough. (X crashes sometimes, but FreeBSD can't really fix that.) The extra file flags look intersting, but otherwise I haven't seen anything that I can do under FreeBSD that I can't with Linux. So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back. William Tracy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 22:37:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7FA16A40F for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:37:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thomas@bsdunix.ch) Received: from conversation.bsdunix.ch (ns1.bsdunix.ch [82.220.1.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566AF43D76 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:37:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thomas@bsdunix.ch) Received: from localhost (localhost.bsdunix.ch [127.0.0.1]) by conversation.bsdunix.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7B75E7E; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:37:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.bsdunix.ch Received: from conversation.bsdunix.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (conversation.bsdunix.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id d61SGdkUREdX; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:37:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (home.bsdunix.ch [82.220.17.23]) by conversation.bsdunix.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B785E7D; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:37:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4532B812.5050402@bsdunix.ch> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:37:06 +0200 From: Thomas Vogt User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Macintosh/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: <45322A1D.8070204@hadara.ps> <20061015151215.15a4062e@loki.starkstrom.lan> <200610151239.12127.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <453274C3.7090409@bsdunix.ch> <0F7C0CB4C34ECD44CCF3CDD0@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> <45329AB4.1000508@pixelhammer.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP new vulnarabilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:37:54 -0000 Paul Schmehl schrieb: > --On October 15, 2006 4:31:48 PM -0400 DAve > wrote: >> >> That is a bit extreme. I have a full workload, I put in about 60 hours a >> week (I work a lot of weekends, I'm working now). I have servers running >> all different version of apps. I can't go around upgrading everything at >> the drop of a hat. I would be divorced within a month. >> >> If you read the security alerts carefully you will find many require a >> shell (We don't offer them to clients), some require a specific app to >> be running that you may not need (rm -f /usr/local/bin/vulnerable_app), >> and sometimes a simple code audit will tell you if you are vulnerable. >> It is also not uncommon that a security alert is issued for a problem >> that has not be proven in the wild. >> >> There are plenty of reasons to not follow a security alert, many of them >> quite valid. Upgrading mission critical systems without throughly >> understanding the implications just because someone screamed SECURITY!, >> now that is foolhardy. >> > That wasn't the situation here. > > Look, there are several possible scenarios where installing a vulnerable > app is less of a risk than not installing the app at all. Business > functionality *is* important. However, to arbitrarily say "Use > DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES" is the answer to an app that won't install is > always a wrong answer. *At a minimum* it should come with a warning of > the possible risks. Furthermore *upgrading* from a non-vulnerabile app > to a vulnerable app simply because "it's the latest" is foolhardy in the > extreme. > > I don't think my statement was any more extreme than "Just use > DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES and you can install the app" with no warning of > the risks. *Especially* when the app is as highly scrutinized as php is > (not to mention how vulnerabilities are being found in it all the time.) Does "DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES" not say enough? When he tried to install php he already got the vulnerabilities message including a web link. I think this knob was made for a reason. Cheers, Thomas -- Terry Lambert: "It is not unix's job to stop you from shooting your foot. If you so choose to do so, then it is UNIX's job to deliver Mr. Bullet to Mr Foot in the most efficient way it knows." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 22:45:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C65416A415 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D3643D5A for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:45:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so623826uge for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:45:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iqx7uO1jlbBglRaZiPrcSWq1qNYvpL4SyC94P6hovPhSbxNpgMs2TDg81b96eOLuPKWFq9vxXBuTu5hhr9n0jMWuXBLJ8egcO95sTNEF/nTsbHprip5WsSvllB03Hi2awNivo7hrL6shueCIE/6F18t61K/PHCVB8JlqOZsMotw= Received: by 10.66.221.19 with SMTP id t19mr7279159ugg; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.86.18 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20610151545j6fcc26edm52e5a4a8e799e38c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:45:24 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20610081327s13d0ce81s67111d60df67bc55@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20610060523y636701b7md93ae0d586ef69fe@mail.gmail.com> <1160145794.5951.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <80f4f2b20610060802o4c6a91b3h15d468c45477f916@mail.gmail.com> <80f4f2b20610061530s4ac88289w16cb97cdbd9f52ef@mail.gmail.com> <20061006224342.GL65912@e.0x20.net> <80f4f2b20610061622k522ec869x5b8340701535faf8@mail.gmail.com> <20061007224949.GB62285@e.0x20.net> <80f4f2b20610081229p1a9d19dcw325f83850c6aaadb@mail.gmail.com> <452957B7.1040500@errno.com> <80f4f2b20610081327s13d0ce81s67111d60df67bc55@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Route #3 - USB 802.11 a/b/g X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:45:32 -0000 On 10/8/06, Jim Stapleton wrote: > On 10/8/06, Sam Leffler wrote: > > Jim Stapleton wrote: > > > On 10/7/06, Lars Engels wrote: > > >> On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 07:22:50PM -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote: > > >> > OK, that's interesting, I tried, that, and got this: > > >> > > > >> > ural0: > > >> flags=108843 mtu > > >> > 1500 > > >> > inet6 fe80::215:e9ff:fe2d:72c3%ural0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 > > >> > inet 192.168.1.84 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 49.49.253.171 > > >> > ether 00:15:e9:2d:72:c3 > > >> > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet OFDM/54Mbps (OFDM/54Mbps) > > >> > status: no carrier > > >> > ssid mine channel 6 > > >> > authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 1 txpowmax 100 protmode CTS > > >> > bintval 100 > > >> > > > >> > I've tried replacing wep with wepkey, I've tried weptxkey 1 to 4, no > > >> > luck on any of those. > > >> > > > >> > Any other suggestions? > > >> > > > >> > > >> Perhaps the authmode needs to be set to SHARED? > > >> > > > > > > That didn't work either -- I also tried 8021x and wpa. Both gave me an > > > error: > > > ifconfig: SIOCS80211: invalid argument > > > > "status: no carrier" means you are not associated to the ap. When the > > reason is not obvious I usually do this: > > > > wlandebug -i ural0 scan+auth+assoc > > > > before bringing the interface up w/ ifconfig. The console msgs should > > tell you what's going on. I don't recall if "ifconfig ural0 debug" will > > give you similar info. > > > > Of course it'd be better if the failure code for the last auth/assoc > > attempt was reported by ifconfig in this situation (I think it's > > available by ioctl but can't recall--if not it's easy to add and has > > been done for other systems). > > > > Sam > > > > PS. wlandebug is in src/tools/tools/net80211. > > > > > well, it gave me something that is probably useful - but I've no idea > how to use it. > > sjss@aragorn 16:17:27 (0) ~ > sudo wlandebug -i ural0 scan+auth+assoc > net.wlan.1.debug: 0x0 => 0xe00000 > > > there was no other output. Nothing appeared in dmesg > > thanks, > -Jim Stapleton > addendum: I found a way to get by this problem - it only seems to fail when the mouse is plugged in before the drive, if I plug in the mouse first, the drive fails. I have verified this with anouth drive. This only happens when the mouse is plugged in directly, if the mouse is plugged in via a KVM (as it would be at home), the problem is not observed. -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 22:45:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C3816A542 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from mail44.e.nsc.no (mail44.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF83343D5D for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:45:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from [84.202.101.97] (084202101097.customer.alfanett.no [84.202.101.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail44.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k9FMjh4l016953 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:45:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4532B976.9030605@next.online.no> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:43:02 +0200 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:45:47 -0000 William Tracy wrote: > [snip] > So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD > can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back. What's so compelling about Linux? At least, tell us which distribution you are talking about and how and why FreeBSD does not seem very impressive in comparison. -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 22:47:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AFD16A47B for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:47:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao.barros@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681CD43D7B for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:46:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joao.barros@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so1670440nfc for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:46:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=j6Z70y0eokkL74L49FnmMlNI3Y+4fowwQC3Q4paKDd5NEW6wjAQa+VxLG9wAFbbWBqwIVgOYjNDbNtcPEFzltTR281DJh9k5bCaaHt2FVTXfrPrKq6V0m0EXWhMWI7LRsacFeOkzMhk9DczLQKPd/RmmzoshTzRSqVad65dlRVU= Received: by 10.78.127.2 with SMTP id z2mr6985951huc; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.173.8 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <70e8236f0610151546y2e644b4ajb3f86de5bff6179a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:46:51 +0100 From: "Joao Barros" To: "William Tracy" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:47:06 -0000 On 10/15/06, William Tracy wrote: > Okay. > > I've installed FreeBSD on my desktop. I got KDE working, and Amor is > running so I have a little daemon sitting on my window. I can mount my > USB card reader and open the pictures from my digital camera in Gimp. > I can browse the web in Firefox. I even compiled my own kernel so that > I'm all 1337. :-) > > Overall, I like FreeBSD--the kernel build process felt a lot smoother > than Linux, the /boot and /sys file heirarchies makes more sense to me > than /boot and /usr/src under Linux, and the /dev heirarchy seems > sane, though it's still pretty alien to me. So far, everything I do > under Linux I can do under FreeBSD. > > FreeBSD is nice, but I haven't seen anything really *compelling* about > it. FreeBSD might be more stable as a server, but for my desktop Linux > has proven more than stable enough. (X crashes sometimes, but FreeBSD > can't really fix that.) The extra file flags look intersting, but > otherwise I haven't seen anything that I can do under FreeBSD that I > can't with Linux. > > So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD > can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back. > > William Tracy Well, I guess you can ask yourself some questions: - Is there something now that you can't do but were able to using Linux (or vice-versa) ? - Hardware support (might fit the previous question) - Is performance better/worse ? - Your global experience with it: installation, usage, documentation, support. >From my experience, I was using linux before FreeBSD, but I always felt curiosity to test it. My first try was with 5.0 and although slow at the time (processing apache logs with awstats) I loved it. Two things come out shining: it's a complete OS not a kernel glued with userland and libraries and the documentation is supreme. Just my 2 euro cents ;-) -- Joao Barros From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 22:52:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0FE16A47E for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:52:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D60443DA0 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:52:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9FMpwsd054486 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:51:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:51:57 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610151751.57897.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:52:23 -0000 On Sunday 15 October 2006 17:26, William Tracy wrote: > Okay. > > I've installed FreeBSD on my desktop. I got KDE working, and Amor is > running so I have a little daemon sitting on my window. I can mount my > USB card reader and open the pictures from my digital camera in Gimp. > I can browse the web in Firefox. I even compiled my own kernel so that > I'm all 1337. :-) > > Overall, I like FreeBSD--the kernel build process felt a lot smoother > than Linux, the /boot and /sys file heirarchies makes more sense to me > than /boot and /usr/src under Linux, and the /dev heirarchy seems > sane, though it's still pretty alien to me. So far, everything I do > under Linux I can do under FreeBSD. > > FreeBSD is nice, but I haven't seen anything really *compelling* about > it. FreeBSD might be more stable as a server, but for my desktop Linux > has proven more than stable enough. (X crashes sometimes, but FreeBSD > can't really fix that.) The extra file flags look intersting, but > otherwise I haven't seen anything that I can do under FreeBSD that I > can't with Linux. > > So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD > can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back. > > William Tracy ill tel you why i switched from linux to freebsd. first, the release schedule. or rather... the length of the maintenance calendar. freebsd maintains the core operating system longer than any linux distro ive ever seen. i was previously on fedora, and their EOL schedule came so quickly some times, that in order to maintain security, a complete operating system upgrade was necessary. this was in part due to the rpm system, which doesnt necessarily prefer to install another versions rpms into a newer or older version of the OS. (if im wrong there, too bad, ive already switched to freebsd, and im not going back, so dont bother to correct me.... *wink*). second, (and this part, im only going to use estimations, im not going to look up version info for each release), what was the latest version of [application] in FC5? FC4? FC3? on back? ok.. for the sake of example i will go and look up one... well take apache for example. FC5 - httpd-2.2.2-1.2.i386.rpm FC4 - httpd-2.0.54-10.4.i386.rpm FC3 - httpd-2.0.53-3.3.i386.rpm FC2 - httpd-2.0.51-2.9.i386.rpm in freebsd, i can have the latest 2.0.59 on my system, no matter if im running 6.1, 6.0, 5.5, 5.4, 5.3... same thing goes for practically anything else you can think of that you want to run. note that FC5 upgrades you to 2.2.x, and me, i dont know alot about apache, but i do know that my httpd.conf file doesnt work right in 2.2.x, but works perfectly for what i need in 2.0.x. not being forced into a version that is not right for me, is something i like. i dont know how to make my own rpm files (yes i know i could learn if i really needed to... but see end of paragraph that begins 'first'). i do know how to compile from source, but if something is already built for me for my system, i would prefer to use that and take advantage of that resource. freebsd gives you options. latest php4 and mysql4? latest apache 1.3? your not even ready to move from freebsd 4.x to 5.x? no problem. and that's, what i think. cheers, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 22:56:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B3516A403 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26D143D60 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:56:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so624355uge for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:56:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uZYZ8iGSylxjHZhulsmpc208A2ewutkXs7PbZzVtAOlvT4kLEkGMD77hQ8wodpxUdqK0ex8BY+viCFMTvMm0E2MPayNk0H71VjsvopWjp/sLEDZM9yj5bmBGxV5cJhOdB6Qn6++/wLXKmHaWDnYoTGwFNGVm95VLzkw15QG64u4= Received: by 10.67.24.13 with SMTP id b13mr7260440ugj; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.86.18 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:56:32 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:56:35 -0000 Well, in my case: - No matter what method I use to install packages in Linux (Apt-Get, Yum, Deb, RPM, and to a much lesser extent, Emerge, and to a *MUCH* greater extent src tar.gz's), I tend to have a lot more trouble getting installs to finish than with BSD in ports. - The FreeBSD community is much more friendly and helpful than the Linux community, in my experience. Gentoo's is better than other Linux communities, but still not quite up to FreeBSD. - I notice a lot smaller number of "It's 'X' liscence, therefore it has to be good", or "It's open source therefore it has to be good" fanboys in FreeBSD. The users tend to be more of a "It works, so it's good" type. This really makes the commmunity pleasant. - The documentation of FreeBSD is much better in both organization and detail - while good documentation can be found for Linux, FreeBSD just takes a lot less searching. - I've found a lot of breaks in Linux where I couldn't find anything short of a system re-install to fix them without a lot more effort in searching for some obscure piece of documentation. Aside from once when I blew up my kernel build, I didn't have that problem in BSD. - It's less popular than Linux, so it's less commonly known/accounted for, and it makes you just that much safer from hackers. Note: that's not to say it doesn't have it's issues, like every other OS, I could name a few dozen issues I've run into with FreeBSD without much hassle (mostly related to drivers, UI, and parts of the installer), but that's a different topic alltogether. -Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 22:57:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758DE16A412 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:57:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao.barros@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE1443D6D for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:57:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joao.barros@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so1672718nfc for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:57:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aJGO8G7MdwZEfC3HkI9rrcOKIxqLKpP0EfFi3Sq8RFRW2qAljSDLXJno/r2oVZhCYbSGQL3i0sMtuW06XSawQ/cSS/qqwplbv4OgLcz8XscMs2tkzsAMrt1T7DVKSJmyZ8PMjz0Up4FX6Np21sXkFjWgGypWUXDprEGKI7aGgeY= Received: by 10.78.201.8 with SMTP id y8mr6986154huf; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.173.8 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <70e8236f0610151557m441baf19ma2ffc0cf504f4edb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:57:32 +0100 From: "Joao Barros" To: "William Tracy" In-Reply-To: <70e8236f0610151546y2e644b4ajb3f86de5bff6179a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <70e8236f0610151546y2e644b4ajb3f86de5bff6179a@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:57:50 -0000 On 10/15/06, Joao Barros wrote: > On 10/15/06, William Tracy wrote: > > Okay. > > > > I've installed FreeBSD on my desktop. I got KDE working, and Amor is > > running so I have a little daemon sitting on my window. I can mount my > > USB card reader and open the pictures from my digital camera in Gimp. > > I can browse the web in Firefox. I even compiled my own kernel so that > > I'm all 1337. :-) > > > > Overall, I like FreeBSD--the kernel build process felt a lot smoother > > than Linux, the /boot and /sys file heirarchies makes more sense to me > > than /boot and /usr/src under Linux, and the /dev heirarchy seems > > sane, though it's still pretty alien to me. So far, everything I do > > under Linux I can do under FreeBSD. > > > > FreeBSD is nice, but I haven't seen anything really *compelling* about > > it. FreeBSD might be more stable as a server, but for my desktop Linux > > has proven more than stable enough. (X crashes sometimes, but FreeBSD > > can't really fix that.) The extra file flags look intersting, but > > otherwise I haven't seen anything that I can do under FreeBSD that I > > can't with Linux. > > > > So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD > > can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back. > > > > William Tracy > > Well, I guess you can ask yourself some questions: > - Is there something now that you can't do but were able to using > Linux (or vice-versa) ? > - Hardware support (might fit the previous question) > - Is performance better/worse ? > - Your global experience with it: installation, usage, documentation, support. > > From my experience, I was using linux before FreeBSD, but I always > felt curiosity to test it. > My first try was with 5.0 and although slow at the time (processing > apache logs with awstats) I loved it. Two things come out shining: > it's a complete OS not a kernel glued with userland and libraries and > the documentation is supreme. > > Just my 2 euro cents ;-) Ok, make that 3: Ports I really don't miss rpm hell. -- Joao Barros From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 23:09:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EF416A403 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:09:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859C843D45 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:09:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from localhost (c-71-60-174-60.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.60.174.60]) (AUTH: LOGIN wmoran, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:09:43 -0400 id 00056407.4532BFB7.0000037F Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:09:41 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: gregb@west-third.com Message-Id: <20061015190941.593a9e78.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <3833.66.112.94.216.1160945736.squirrel@www.west-third.com> References: <3833.66.112.94.216.1160945736.squirrel@www.west-third.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sunday's newbie questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:09:45 -0000 gregb@west-third.com wrote: > > Two quick questions I should know the answer to, but don't. > > * When installing the PHP5 port, will it automatically disable and/or > uninstall the PHP4 that's already installed, or should I uninstall the > latter manually beforehand? Manually uninstall php4 first. > * My server runs portaudit (a helpful addition from the last guy who did > some work on it), but a simple "make install" on the PHP5 port spits back > a security error. What's the flag to make install around that? setenv DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes (in bourne shells) Then be sure to select the suhosin patch from the menu, as it plugs the current exploit. -- Bill Moran The presence of stale files in this directory can cause the dreaded unpredictable results, and therefore it is highly recommended that you delete them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 23:16:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3C516A403 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151C243D46 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:16:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from [66.47.111.183] (helo=joeandlane.com) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GZFDT-0007Da-9d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:16:23 -0400 Received: from joeandlane.com (localhost.localnet.local [127.0.0.1]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9FNJDLf027352 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:19:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id k9FNJDZj027351 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:19:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) X-Authentication-Warning: joeandlane.com: lholcombe set sender to lane@joeandlane.com using -f From: Lane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:19:12 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610151819.13127.lane@joeandlane.com> X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner-From: lane@joeandlane.com X-ELNK-Trace: e56a4b6ca9bdfda11aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec793682e41d5c29d093f7d057dfca038a61350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.47.111.183 Subject: libphp4.so not installed from /usr/ports/lang/php4 and mod_php4 is gone??!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:16:24 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to install mod_php on an existing apache13 server. The original config documentation requires that this entry be added to httpd.conf: LoadModule php4_module libexec/apache/libphp4.so libphp4.so was previously built by /usr/ports/www/mod_php4 (iirc) but that port has apparently been merged into /usr/ports/lang/php4 So I compiled the port with -DAPACHE=yes and I got the pkg-message.mod message telling me to add AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps to httpd.conf However, libphp4.so was not created, nor was it installed. Nor is there any mention of libphp4.so in pkg-plist (or anywhere, as far as I can tell). So ... now the question .... How do I get mod_php working again? (with Apache13) Thanks, Lane From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 23:19:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2FA816A40F for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:19:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B40243D53 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:19:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from localhost (c-71-60-174-60.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.60.174.60]) (AUTH: LOGIN wmoran, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:19:00 -0400 id 00056407.4532C1E4.000003EC Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:18:58 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Lane Message-Id: <20061015191858.837561c2.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <200610151819.13127.lane@joeandlane.com> References: <200610151819.13127.lane@joeandlane.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libphp4.so not installed from /usr/ports/lang/php4 and mod_php4 is gone??!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:19:01 -0000 Lane wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to install mod_php on an existing apache13 server. > > The original config documentation requires that this entry be added to > httpd.conf: > > LoadModule php4_module libexec/apache/libphp4.so > > libphp4.so was previously built by /usr/ports/www/mod_php4 (iirc) but that > port has apparently been merged into /usr/ports/lang/php4 > > So I compiled the port with -DAPACHE=yes and I got the pkg-message.mod message > telling me to add > > AddType application/x-httpd-php .php > AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps > > > to httpd.conf > > However, libphp4.so was not created, nor was it installed. Nor is there any > mention of libphp4.so in pkg-plist (or anywhere, as far as I can tell). > > So ... now the question .... > > How do I get mod_php working again? (with Apache13) cd /usr/ports/lang/php4 make config (select the Apache module from the menu) rebuild/reinstall php. -- Bill Moran When I point out limitations of one technique as a motivation for another, I do so in the context of specific problems; for different problems or in other contexts, the first technique may indeed be the better choice. Useful software has been constructed using all of the techniques presented here. Bjarne Stroustrup, _The_C++_Programming_Language_ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 23:39:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E173D16A407 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:39:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383DC43D49 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:39:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from [66.47.111.183] (helo=joeandlane.com) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GZFa3-0006bv-Ez for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:39:43 -0400 Received: from joeandlane.com (localhost.localnet.local [127.0.0.1]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9FNgO9Q027800 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:42:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id k9FNgOhC027799 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:42:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) X-Authentication-Warning: joeandlane.com: lholcombe set sender to lane@joeandlane.com using -f From: Lane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:42:24 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <200610151819.13127.lane@joeandlane.com> <20061015191858.837561c2.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <20061015191858.837561c2.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610151842.24375.lane@joeandlane.com> X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner-From: lane@joeandlane.com X-ELNK-Trace: e56a4b6ca9bdfda11aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7984814b8242a53cb6b6735ecfedce138c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.47.111.183 Subject: Re: libphp4.so not installed from /usr/ports/lang/php4 and mod_php4 is gone??!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:39:49 -0000 On Sunday 15 October 2006 18:18, Bill Moran wrote: > Lane wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to install mod_php on an existing apache13 server. > > > > The original config documentation requires that this entry be added to > > httpd.conf: > > > > LoadModule php4_module libexec/apache/libphp4.so > > > > libphp4.so was previously built by /usr/ports/www/mod_php4 (iirc) but > > that port has apparently been merged into /usr/ports/lang/php4 > > > > So I compiled the port with -DAPACHE=yes and I got the pkg-message.mod > > message telling me to add > > > > AddType application/x-httpd-php .php > > AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps > > > > > > to httpd.conf > > > > However, libphp4.so was not created, nor was it installed. Nor is there > > any mention of libphp4.so in pkg-plist (or anywhere, as far as I can > > tell). > > > > So ... now the question .... > > > > How do I get mod_php working again? (with Apache13) > > cd /usr/ports/lang/php4 > make config > (select the Apache module from the menu) > rebuild/reinstall php. Thanks, Bill. But that does not install libphp4.so. libphp4.so is not created, or if it is created it has a name OTHER than libphp4.so. After taking the steps you describe, I expect that I should get something in a directory listing such as: ls -al /usr/local/libexec/apache | grep php However nothing is listed Nor is anything listed when I do: ls -al /usr/local/libexec/apache | grep "Oct 14" Apparently no new modules where added today. I thought maybe it was installed in another place, so I ran /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate and then: locate mod_php But still I get nothing. Perhaps mod_php is no longer available for FreeBSD 5.4? lane From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 23:48:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F4016A407 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA42143D45 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:48:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9FNkE8c036118; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:46:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9FNkEiT036117; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:46:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:46:14 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: William Tracy Message-ID: <20061015234613.GA36008@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:48:37 -0000 On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 03:26:02PM -0700, William Tracy wrote: > Okay. > > I've installed FreeBSD on my desktop. I got KDE working, and Amor is > running so I have a little daemon sitting on my window. I can mount my > USB card reader and open the pictures from my digital camera in Gimp. > I can browse the web in Firefox. I even compiled my own kernel so that > I'm all 1337. :-) > > Overall, I like FreeBSD--the kernel build process felt a lot smoother > than Linux, the /boot and /sys file heirarchies makes more sense to me > than /boot and /usr/src under Linux, and the /dev heirarchy seems > sane, though it's still pretty alien to me. So far, everything I do > under Linux I can do under FreeBSD. > > FreeBSD is nice, but I haven't seen anything really *compelling* about > it. FreeBSD might be more stable as a server, but for my desktop Linux > has proven more than stable enough. (X crashes sometimes, but FreeBSD > can't really fix that.) The extra file flags look intersting, but > otherwise I haven't seen anything that I can do under FreeBSD that I > can't with Linux. > > So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD > can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back. FreeBSd is another OS, after all. It is not out to wow anyone - especially if you have been basically satisfied with the other one. As a server it is incrementally better than Linux for many server type things. You have also identified some things that you find are a little cleaner about FreeBSD. That type of cleaner, more manageable structure is one reason FreeBSD can be nicer to work with and may lead to a more reliable server system. There are other things that people prefer about the FreeBSD environment and may also lead to improvements in reliability. But, you are not going to be bowled over - just a little more pleased with the server environment. I think it is enough to be worth learning the system. It is up to you what you think. Both Linux and FreeBSD are a major improvement over certain other proprietary, so-called OS, versions. But, that is the big jump. The jump from Linux to FreeBSD as a server is rather less dramatic but, still an improvement for many uses. ////jerry > > William Tracy > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 00:10:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D9016A407 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:10:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0172243D53 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:10:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k9G0AYeR085695; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:10:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k9G0AXlv085516; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:10:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:10:32 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: albi Message-ID: <20061016001032.GA18513@thought.org> References: <20060921222701.D63174@justnosweat.net> <20060921224132.2e3a5c9e.albi@scii.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060921224132.2e3a5c9e.albi@scii.nl> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, justin Subject: Re: squirrelmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:10:37 -0000 On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:41:32PM +0200, albi wrote: > On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:37:44 +0000 (UTC) > justin wrote: > > > I`ve got a problem with squirrelmail > > when i try to reach it through my browser i get the index.php > > with the following message: > --cut -- > > // Are we configured yet? > > if( ! file_exists ( 'config/config.php' ) ) { > -- cut -- > > So my questions is why the squirrelmail interface isnt executeted. > > did you run ./configure in /usr/local/www/squirrelmail/ ? > > and do you have in apache's config the following ? > > DirectoryIndex index.html index.html.var index.php > AddType application/x-httpd-php .php > AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps > > I've been saving these instructions for weeks and just installed squirrelmail. I tested it with http://www.thought.org/squirrelmail/ and by pointing at the src/configtest.php. I get a 404 return. I have added your mods intp my httpd.conf; I have stopped and restarted apache; I have run ./configure. Still nothing. Any clues? gary > -- > grtjs, > albi > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 00:50:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F74116A403 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FD843D49 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:50:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so2010190pye for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:50:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pbajRekE6MgllwYN+zcwjjgjlWiZqAWB4EOBRKXhSecui3nucyG/azyeDC+cUk3nXSHyc+8yOn1cKdIjwTYuRdfpmdl0PrBBwinZchg6JScXeuljSSNRjLusjTcjEb52V1wyTky+CTieH0151h95/I6nsznupjUYMd+OCJz3GWs= Received: by 10.65.185.13 with SMTP id m13mr6648450qbp; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:50:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.103.4 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:50:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:50:31 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: "Gary Kline" In-Reply-To: <20061016001032.GA18513@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060921222701.D63174@justnosweat.net> <20060921224132.2e3a5c9e.albi@scii.nl> <20061016001032.GA18513@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: albi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, justin Subject: Re: squirrelmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:50:36 -0000 On 10/16/06, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:41:32PM +0200, albi wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:37:44 +0000 (UTC) > > justin wrote: > > > > > I`ve got a problem with squirrelmail > > > when i try to reach it through my browser i get the index.php > > > with the following message: > > --cut -- > > > // Are we configured yet? > > > if( ! file_exists ( 'config/config.php' ) ) { > > -- cut -- > > > So my questions is why the squirrelmail interface isnt executeted. > > > > did you run ./configure in /usr/local/www/squirrelmail/ ? > > > > and do you have in apache's config the following ? > > > > DirectoryIndex index.html index.html.var index.php > > AddType application/x-httpd-php .php > > AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps > > > > > > > I've been saving these instructions for weeks and just installed > squirrelmail. I tested it with > > http://www.thought.org/squirrelmail/ and by pointing at the > src/configtest.php. I get a 404 return. I have added your mods > intp my httpd.conf; I have stopped and restarted apache; I have > run ./configure. Still nothing. Any clues? > > gary > > you apache build doesn't have that module installed so even if you put it > there explicitly, you will still see the codes instead of the actual page, > you have to recompile apache with php support. HTH _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 00:55:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE98D16A417 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:55:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B8C43D58 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:55:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id a10so340686qbd for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:55:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XiwWt3EWbj1+D42pPM/e+1FWzwtsiYkO/w9GLGX95v4XjoUChTW7Pq54YwIB/PcA/SN86DYMpxLOjorqYiTRbRKGmKbHk3XyIiBUb2a4qLABzdsSabxRaOTha7yA2jexQhvj7h6zk3LpGVxvM6z2d+bLuAnuvhMWG4HD+0gZ+WI= Received: by 10.65.206.7 with SMTP id i7mr9038631qbq; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.103.4 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:55:47 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: "Thomas Vogt" In-Reply-To: <4532B812.5050402@bsdunix.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <45322A1D.8070204@hadara.ps> <20061015151215.15a4062e@loki.starkstrom.lan> <200610151239.12127.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <453274C3.7090409@bsdunix.ch> <0F7C0CB4C34ECD44CCF3CDD0@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> <45329AB4.1000508@pixelhammer.com> <4532B812.5050402@bsdunix.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Paul Schmehl , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP new vulnarabilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:55:53 -0000 so the question is, when will the php port be upgraded? it's been days already but i still keep on seeing the vulnerability message even if you say that it isn't that critical. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 01:00:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F1F16A47C for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:00:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3155E43D73 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:00:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from localhost (c-71-60-174-60.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.60.174.60]) (AUTH: LOGIN wmoran, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:00:45 -0400 id 00056407.4532D9BE.000007C4 Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:00:44 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: "jan gestre" Message-Id: <20061015210044.5d900f29.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: References: <45322A1D.8070204@hadara.ps> <20061015151215.15a4062e@loki.starkstrom.lan> <200610151239.12127.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <453274C3.7090409@bsdunix.ch> <0F7C0CB4C34ECD44CCF3CDD0@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> <45329AB4.1000508@pixelhammer.com> <4532B812.5050402@bsdunix.ch> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Paul Schmehl , Thomas Vogt , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP new vulnarabilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:00:51 -0000 "jan gestre" wrote: > so the question is, when will the php port be upgraded? it's been days > already but i still keep on seeing the vulnerability message even if you say > that it isn't that critical. 1) The suhosin patchset apparently plugs the hole. Unfortunately, portaudit isn't aware of this and still reports the package as vulnerable. 2) The PHP folks haven't release the patch yet, although it's in their CVS. 3) Somebody _could_ generate a patchfile for the FreeBSD port -- don't know why nobody has. So, the answer is "I don't know." -- Bill Moran There's more'n seventy little earth's spinning about the galaxy, and the meek have inherited not a one. Malcom Reynolds From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 01:06:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8564516A403 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:06:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from mail.stovebolt.com (mail.stovebolt.com [66.221.101.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340A543D45 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:06:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (adsl-65-69-141-242.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [65.69.141.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.stovebolt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6592114307 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:07:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:06:39 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.5 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========2D53FD208D385D0484E9==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:06:45 -0000 --==========2D53FD208D385D0484E9========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On October 15, 2006 3:26:02 PM -0700 William Tracy=20 wrote: > > So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD > can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back. > Well, let's see. As a server, I have worked with Windows, Solaris,=20 Gentoo, RedHat, Fedora, CentOS, Slackware, OpenBSD and FreeBSD. All my=20 servers are FreeBSD now, except for the ones that require Windows and=20 don't give me an otpion. That should tell you something. Features that I like that I consider better than other *nixes: 1) The install - the install is simple and easy to follow. Furthermore,=20 you can run the installer any time you want by running sysinstall,=20 something that often requires inserting a CD (or copying the CD to the=20 hard drive) on other OSes. 2) The OS - it has all the tools you need without any of the bloat. Yes,=20 it requires that you actually learn Unix, but that's not a bad thing.=20 Built-in perl. Built-in tcpdump. 3) The kernel. I've done kernel rebuilds on Linux. Trust me, freebsd is=20 much easier. make buildkernel, make buildworld, make installkernel,=20 reboot, run mergemaster, make installworld, run mergemaster again. And I=20 can do it in an ssh session without having to worry about running to the=20 console. 4) The ports system. I have at my fingertips everything I need to install = anything I need. And if it's not there, just ask. Someone will create=20 the port. Complex apps that require the installation of a number of items = (dependencies) are often so daunting that people don't even want to tackle = them. In FreeBSD, the port does all of that for you. What's left? Oh - performance. FreeBSD just works. I've never had a=20 crash. I've never had sluggish performance. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========2D53FD208D385D0484E9==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 01:16:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFFE16A403 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B43E43D4C for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:16:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9G1G5c7056085 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:16:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:16:05 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <20060921222701.D63174@justnosweat.net> <20061016001032.GA18513@thought.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610152016.05335.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: squirrelmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:16:08 -0000 On Sunday 15 October 2006 19:50, jan gestre wrote: > On 10/16/06, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:41:32PM +0200, albi wrote: > > > On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:37:44 +0000 (UTC) > > > > > > justin wrote: > > > > I`ve got a problem with squirrelmail > > > > when i try to reach it through my browser i get the index.php > > > > with the following message: > > > > > > --cut -- > > > > > > > // Are we configured yet? > > > > if( ! file_exists ( 'config/config.php' ) ) { > > > > > > -- cut -- > > > > > > > So my questions is why the squirrelmail interface isnt executeted. > > > > > > did you run ./configure in /usr/local/www/squirrelmail/ ? > > > > > > and do you have in apache's config the following ? > > > > > > DirectoryIndex index.html index.html.var index.php > > > AddType application/x-httpd-php .php > > > AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps > > > > I've been saving these instructions for weeks and just installed > > squirrelmail. I tested it with > > > > http://www.thought.org/squirrelmail/ and by pointing at the > > src/configtest.php. I get a 404 return. I have added your mods > > intp my httpd.conf; I have stopped and restarted apache; I have > > run ./configure. Still nothing. Any clues? > > > > gary > > > > you apache build doesn't have that module installed so even if you put it > > there explicitly, you will still see the codes instead of the actual > > page, you have to recompile apache with php support. > > HTH > i would imagine at this point, the problem lies in the httpd.conf file, or in an assosicated alias.conf file. for my squirrelmail, i have a file in /usr/local/etc/apache/Includes called squirrelmail.conf. its contents are: Alias /webmail /usr/local/www/squirrelmail you can make your alias /webmail or /squirrelmail or /whateveryouwant. for your example, you would use /squirrelmail. after this is in place, just restart apache, and it should no longer give you a 404. cheers, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 02:13:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6B716A403 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE9943D45 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:13:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k9G2Bx3p032210 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:11:59 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.3/8.12.11) id k9G2CCDx068884; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:12:12 +0700 (ICT) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:12:12 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200610160212.k9G2CCDx068884@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd@alaskaparadise.com In-reply-to: <200610131712.46822.freebsd@alaskaparadise.com> (message from Beech Rintoul on Fri, 13 Oct 2006 17:12:27 -0800) References: <200610131712.46822.freebsd@alaskaparadise.com> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Non English Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:13:41 -0000 > I'm getting a ton of spam every day that comes from China, Japan and Korea= > =2E=20 > Spam Assassin completely ignores it because it has all non-english characte= > rs=20 > and slows kmail to a crawl loading. Is there a way to filter on non-english= in /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/v310.pre I enabled the language guesser plugin: # TextCat - language guesser # loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::TextCat It puts a little bit of stress on SpamAssassin, but Ithink it works pretty good. Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 02:33:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA6716A403 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:33:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1161398000.fc9e41@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (3s1.com [209.161.205.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5BF43D45 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:33:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david+dated+1161398000.fc9e41@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 3s1.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9G2XL80073500 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:33:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1161398000.fc9e41@skytracker.ca) Received: (from david@localhost) by 3s1.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9G2XLv3073493 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:33:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1161398000.fc9e41@skytracker.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: 3s1.com: david set sender to david+dated+1161398000.fc9e41@skytracker.ca using -f Received: by 3s1.com (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1000); Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:33:20 -0400 Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:33:19 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061016023319.GA71954@skytracker.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.5 (Fettercairn) From: David Banning Cc: Subject: dvips conflict with teTeX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:33:23 -0000 I have read a recent thread about the conflict between dvips and teTeX. I get the error; dvips-5.76 conflicts with installed package(s): teTeX-base-3.0_10 teTeX-texmf-3.0_5 I need both packages. I have recently upgrade teTeX and noticed that dvips was not working. Is there another way to convert dvi files to ps? or maybe it's possible to create a postscript file directly from latex? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 02:47:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08EF16A407 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:47:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [202.89.146.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2935943D46 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:47:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4908C56430; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:47:33 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:47:33 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: David Banning Message-ID: <20061016024733.GB84300@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <20061016023319.GA71954@skytracker.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061016023319.GA71954@skytracker.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvips conflict with teTeX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:47:37 -0000 On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 10:33:19PM -0400, David Banning wrote: > I have read a recent thread about the conflict between dvips and teTeX. > I get the error; > > dvips-5.76 conflicts with installed package(s): > teTeX-base-3.0_10 > teTeX-texmf-3.0_5 > > I need both packages. I have recently upgrade teTeX and noticed that > dvips was not working. Is there another way to convert dvi files to > ps? or maybe it's possible to create a postscript file directly from > latex? teTeX installs a copy of dvips; that's why you get a conflict error. The dvips port is primarily for systems that wish to use dvips without the TeX baggage. The dvips with teTeX should be the same as the dvips port version; it works fine for me. If you have a problem with it, perhaps you should describe the error to the list. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- If you're right 90% of the time, why quibble about the remaining 3%? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 04:27:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8788F16A403 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hoyimtang@yahoo.com) Received: from web35814.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35814.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B8DE43D92 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:27:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hoyimtang@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 21332 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Oct 2006 04:27:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jd/VhEIQ39y7vvO3ayAjX9XSBx9Yh8HCDsJ1XQXeJ7kh3xZtBfwxt/LxOg8TLOqIOwe+lCFY9UH1711Akr7ppezmeuUdY/C9/0V8h5iigNJ1ZceusRIn1+ZtVxqsGKkAwn0DXwwWeetdqaMgJ1z+c+Ml+y2KIYX8l3QwpObldEg= ; Message-ID: <20061016042757.21328.qmail@web35814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.244.236.29] by web35814.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:27:57 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:27:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Tang Ho Yim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <447izgjjhk.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: build minimum freebsd from make world X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:27:58 -0000 Thanks Gilbert, So, anyone can make some DOC about this ? Lowell Gilbert wrote: Tang Ho Yim writes: > I have already install the minimum FreeBSD 6.1. Now, I would like to know how can I build & install the same minimum FreeBSD 6.1 from make world ? I think that NODOC is enough to do it these days. Even that is usually only worthwhile for an expert tuning a pared-down system, though. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 04:35:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3746E16A403 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:35:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aharrison@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2CB643D5E for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:35:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aharrison@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so1745291nfc for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:35:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qMWrZEFNtPC/5bJ3GW7Z/4TCBBhATRrYQXVi+HeScc6UbP/NHK0cyGr1vXCfGss7+Mq2e44feCllFGUUT5GBgTJulwpoSA4A/+zUamKXk1Oaecp+zg2yDMTsyxpcXFC9VgAk1b09BBiJbYg9u282aavVzLNdxSCXdOMXi9BzqvM= Received: by 10.78.94.37 with SMTP id r37mr7196260hub; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.176.14 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:35:13 -0400 From: "Andy Harrison" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:35:16 -0000 On 10/15/06, William Tracy wrote: > > > So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD > can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back. There's already been plenty of answers with which I agree. The bulk of my professional life was with Solaris, with some linux and BSD/OS in the mix. Then I changed jobs and needed to be a FreeBSD guy. It was so easy to run and manage, I felt like I was cheating. Where was the struggling to satisfy every dependency? Where was the need to hunt down the latest version of a binary package or rpm? Where were the unresolved symbol errors while upgrading kernels? Eventually I became adept at making my own rpm's, so less waiting for updated rpm's while still retaining the maintainability of package installs. And then there was FreeBSD. A new version of apache comes out, someone tweaked a couple of files in the ports tree, my scheduled cvsup picks it up automatically anyway, so I'm left with nothing more than running 'portupgrade'. Or (far less frequently) a new version of something comes out, but it's less popular so the port maintainer hasn't gotten around to tweaking the ports fast enough for me. I just tweak the files myself because the process is far simpler than creating custom rpm's, then let it rip. I like how files are very consistently found in logical places, like /usr/local/etc for config files, /usr/local/var for stuff like databases, /usr/local/www for web stuff, /usr/local/bin for binaries. It's not a constant quest wondering where stuff got installed and what data files are where, and not having to type paths to run programs in curious locations. that sort of thing used to become especially annoying with programs that like to install into a directory where the name included the version number, /usr/local/foo-1.1.1/ or something. Like I said before, running FreeBSD is so easy it's almost like cheating. -- Andy Harrison From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 05:30:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C824416A407 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:30:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2116C43D69 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:30:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so1756936nfc for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:30:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=dF3ABMLMhYeepx10QePNiDkEJS8JqHWMIh4OI6tHObD751gqJrkVFUVU1nMsATMLuO0y2XeOfxGQB6me3hD/CX0SE89k1YYBXmC89YwvneNvw7VVhQzkuCiXLL8GQoi3AI04aysrrxbNMB1XxQ4enf+3cDDjbErMfhRGrzJY1i0= Received: by 10.49.8.10 with SMTP id l10mr11490626nfi; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.67.20 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:00:56 +0530 From: Subhro To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Acroread not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:30:59 -0000 Hello Folks, I have installed acroread from the ports collection. I am running FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE. When I am trying to run the same from the command line, I am getting quite a few errors. I have pasted the error below. [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ acroread (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open pixbuf loader module file '/ etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image typ e 'xpm' is not supported (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open pixbuf loader module file '/ etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image typ e 'xpm' is not supported (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open pixbuf loader module file '/ etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image typ e 'xpm' is not supported (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJEC T (object)' failed (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJEC T (object)' failed (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJEC T (object)' failed (acroread:6260): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkwindow-x11.c: line 3502 (gdk_window_se t_icon_list): assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 (gdk_pixbuf_ get_width): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 (gdk_pixbuf_ get_height): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 (gdk_pixbuf_ get_width): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 (gdk_pixbuf_ get_height): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 (gdk_pixbuf_ get_width): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 (gdk_pixbuf_ get_height): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkwindow-x11.c: line 3502 (gdk_window_se t_icon_list): assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 (gdk_pixbuf_ get_width): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 (gdk_pixbuf_ get_height): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 (gdk_pixbuf_ get_width): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 (gdk_pixbuf_ get_height): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 (gdk_pixbuf_ get_width): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 (gdk_pixbuf_ get_height): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkwindow-x11.c: line 3502 (gdk_window_se t_icon_list): assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 (gdk_pixbuf_ get_width): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 (gdk_pixbuf_ get_height): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 (gdk_pixbuf_ get_width): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 (gdk_pixbuf_ get_height): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 (gdk_pixbuf_ get_width): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 (gdk_pixbuf_ get_height): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkwindow-x11.c: line 3502 (gdk_window_set_icon_list): assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 (gdk_pixbuf_get_width): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 (gdk_pixbuf_get_height): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 (gdk_pixbuf_get_width): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 (gdk_pixbuf_get_height): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 (gdk_pixbuf_get_width): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 (gdk_pixbuf_get_height): assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed ** (acroread:6260): WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means there was an error in the creation of: '/etc/pango/pango.modules' You may be able to recreate this file by running pango-querymodules. (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed ** (acroread:6260): CRITICAL **: file pango-engine.c: line 68 (_pango_engine_shape_shape): assertion `PANGO_IS_FONT (font)' failed ** ERROR **: file shape.c: line 75 (pango_shape): assertion failed: (glyphs->num_glyphs > 0) aborting... [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ uname -a FreeBSD phoenix.ivizindia.com 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Oct 14 13:17:59 IST 2006 root@phoenix.ivizindia.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PHOENIX i386 Please tell me where I am going wrong. Thanks and Best Regards Subhro -- Subhro Kar Security Engineer iViZ Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd. Dhanshree Bldg, 1st Floor Plot XI-16, Sector V Salt Lake City 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 05:37:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176B316A407 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:37:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E56443D5A for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:37:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so1758228nfc for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:37:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=R376ahse3msW7OqqjZhSNg+/U87ZObjRy2qc6rlrSh3osCLt/gD30DVD5r28Xj4tFEpD5cv6Qwk6LqEXsDZhjXOsdBcz8esl+FgXg9sQbSpXqU9qZSDM8sQVl78V2I8P7HLoTyU9FRMGIyi1f3Y2tPbbsm0C072jFlQBncKyW7M= Received: by 10.48.210.16 with SMTP id i16mr6593474nfg; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.67.20 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:07:11 +0530 From: Subhro To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Flash Plugin not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:37:13 -0000 Hello, I am running FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE on i386 hardware. I have installed linux-firefox and linux-flashplugin from the ports collection. The same is iterated by pkg_info. [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ pkg_info | grep flash linux-flashplugin-7.0r68 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ linux-firefox [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ pkg_info | grep firefox firefox-1.5.0.7,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla linux-firefox-1.5.0.7 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla However when I am trying to open any sites from linux-firefox, the embedded flash applications are not displayed. Also the browser complains about missing plugin. I have checked the installed plugins by typing about:plugins. But there is no flash plugin displayed there either. Where am I going wrong? Thanks and Best Regards Subhro -- Subhro Kar Security Engineer iViZ Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd. Dhanshree Bldg, 1st Floor Plot XI-16, Sector V Salt Lake City 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 05:37:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E67316A47B for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C27E43D45 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:37:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so2100700pye for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:37:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=nAB6E27yW6yyJBEcjO9+618ysUGo6Cg8/EYiOcv0zeHTfGSvKIvo5j/PAQgTqty8uUWgOyY6cCmucQZ3ZjH4L23IpaDT7ojye/bpr9TRTu5Ue/w3XhkXKDU2jK+ROMgXbiD9Zdi3hZxDs0EjXQW+fO7qBfPLBvUJsXBI4C7rmw4= Received: by 10.35.115.18 with SMTP id s18mr12082834pym; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakshmi.susmita.org ( [59.92.46.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id t70sm1356475pyg.2006.10.15.22.37.38; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lakshmi.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C540323A9E0; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:07:18 +0530 (IST) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:07:18 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061016053718.GA7608@lakshmi.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:37:42 -0000 On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 12:35:13AM -0400, Andy Harrison wrote: > On 10/15/06, William Tracy wrote: > > >So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD >can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back. Ah well, you have to experience it. No amount of convincing or intellectual gymnastics will help you. Know that in the software ecosystem there is a place for everything. There are situations in which you have to use linux and even Windoze. But things are so vibrant that more and more Windoze apps are available in linux and FreeBSD and also in NetBSD and OpenBSD. Personally for me linux has very good support for a wide range of TV cards, remote controls and other rare hardware. BSDs also have support but somewhat limited. FreeBSD gives you CCD,GEOM,GDBE, netgraph and various other features hard to find in other OSes. Some equivalents exist but not as good. OpenBSD has very good IPsec , pf , BGP and other networking stuff. pf is also available on FreeBSD but I doubt if it is as well integrated and feature rich as OpenBSD. Linux has a lousy file system and is somewhat unstable and will throw surprises if you stress it or use it in unexpected ways. Whereas BSDs have very very good stability. For instance FreeBSD will give roughly 20 to 30% better overall performance compared to Linux. This is subjective and dependent on various factors but this has been my experience. In terms of packages FreeBSD I think has the largest number since it can emulate linux binaries too. I can go on but I suggest you try things with an open mind. If you like it, stick to it , else go back. Nobody is forcing you. But remember, give it enough time and be open. regards, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 05:43:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB6516A40F for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:43:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: from barracuda.tsninternet.com.au (barracuda.tsninternet.com.au [202.22.162.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F0943D82 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:43:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1160975853-7513-30-0 X-Barracuda-URL: http://spam.tsninternet.com.au:80/cgi-bin/mark.cgi Received: from b.custmx.tsn.cc (unknown [202.22.162.45]) by barracuda.tsninternet.com.au (Spam Firewall) with ESMTP id A83452689D8 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:17:33 +1000 (EST) Received: (qmail 12025 invoked by uid 89); 13 Oct 2006 06:17:32 +1000 Received: from 64.226.43.202.tsn.cc (HELO localhost) (202.43.226.64) by b.custmx.tsn.cc with SMTP; 13 Oct 2006 06:17:32 +1000 From: Warren Liddell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Error building php5-pcre User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 06:21:35 +1000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200610130621.35560.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at tsninternet.com.au X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using per-user scores of TAG_LEVEL=3.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=6.0 KILL_LEVEL=7.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.02, rules version 3.0.23371 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Subject: Error building php5-pcre X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:43:28 -0000 Running FreeBSD6.2-PRERELEASE and im trying to build cacti with php5-pcre being a dependancy. Below is the last few lines or so that error. =============== ================ ============== ==== cc -DEXPORT= -DNEWLINE=10 -DSUPPORT_UTF8 -DSUPPORT_UCP -DLINK_SIZE=2 -DPOSIX_MALLOC_THRESHOLD=10 -DMATCH_LIMIT=10000000 -DMATCH_LIMIT_RECURSION=10000000 -I/usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/pcrelib -I. -I/usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre -DPHP_ATOM_INC -I/usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/include -I/usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/main -I/usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre -I/usr/local/include/php -I/usr/local/include/php/main -I/usr/local/include/php/TSRM -I/usr/local/include/php/Zend -I/usr/local/include/php/ext -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -c /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/php_pcre.o /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1630: error: `fifth_arg_force_ref' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1630: error: initializer element is not constant /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1630: error: (near initialization for `pcre_functions[2].arg_info') /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1630: error: initializer element is not constant /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1630: error: (near initialization for `pcre_functions[2]') /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1631: error: initializer element is not constant /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1631: error: (near initialization for `pcre_functions[3].arg_info') /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1631: error: initializer element is not constant /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1631: error: (near initialization for `pcre_functions[3]') /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1632: error: initializer element is not constant /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1632: error: (near initialization for `pcre_functions[4]') /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1633: error: initializer element is not constant /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1633: error: (near initialization for `pcre_functions[5]') /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1634: error: initializer element is not constant /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1634: error: (near initialization for `pcre_functions[6]') /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1635: error: initializer element is not constant /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1635: error: (near initialization for `pcre_functions[7]') *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.6/ext/pcre. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 05:50:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5067816A407 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:50:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E6843D4C for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:50:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so1761265nfc for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:50:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=J3o+zvj0qq50QLp2HgI829qb3/zWg7UVjhjpRfxGPZxHpSV6ibydzfyiZxg83I6CWppXQy2DVXmmqqOJ6VBG6pEInZt+J/TFIkaO8Xwqkd3df0RzoXuc5O+u1gvdaeOhSpP46LLjDbdQVmOAJ47sccEx4/RqkYMbm2aNRkhjxQs= Received: by 10.48.48.13 with SMTP id v13mr6848817nfv; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.203.16 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:50:51 -0700 From: "Jeff Mohler" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20061016053718.GA7608@lakshmi.susmita.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061016053718.GA7608@lakshmi.susmita.org> Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:50:54 -0000 Linux has iSCSI...which hands Fbsd a real beating in the server space. I work on projects at more customers than I can keep track of that -have- to use Linux in the middle of Fbsd farms just because of the amazing lack of iscsi support. Linux has been doing iscsi since what..2002 or so? Maybe 2003? C;mon..yes, I know a brave soul is starting work on it now, but how did the Fbsd effort let this lie for so long? On 10/15/06, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 12:35:13AM -0400, Andy Harrison wrote: > > On 10/15/06, William Tracy wrote: > > > > > >So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD > >can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back. > > Ah well, you have to experience it. No amount of convincing or intellectual gymnastics will help you. > > Know that in the software ecosystem there is a place for everything. > > There are situations in which you have to use linux and even Windoze. > > But things are so vibrant that more and more Windoze apps are available in linux and FreeBSD and also in NetBSD and OpenBSD. > > Personally for me linux has very good support for a wide range of TV cards, remote controls and other rare hardware. > > BSDs also have support but somewhat limited. > > FreeBSD gives you CCD,GEOM,GDBE, netgraph and various other features hard to find in other OSes. Some equivalents exist but not as good. > > OpenBSD has very good IPsec , pf , BGP and other networking stuff. pf is also available on FreeBSD but I doubt if it is as well integrated and feature rich as OpenBSD. > > Linux has a lousy file system and is somewhat unstable and will throw surprises if you stress it or use it in unexpected ways. > > Whereas BSDs have very very good stability. For instance FreeBSD will give roughly 20 to 30% better overall performance compared to Linux. This is subjective and dependent on various factors but this has been my experience. > > In terms of packages FreeBSD I think has the largest number since it can emulate linux binaries too. > > I can go on but I suggest you try things with an open mind. > > If you like it, stick to it , else go back. > > Nobody is forcing you. > > But remember, give it enough time and be open. > > regards, > Girish > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 05:58:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095D016A5A2 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:58:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [80.253.10.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8805B43D5D for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:58:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from admin.sem.ipt.ru ([192.168.12.1] helo=ipt.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZLUt-0006Ie-2x; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:58:47 +0400 Received: from bsam by ipt.ru with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZLW5-0005rK-Je; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:00:01 +0400 To: Subhro References: From: Boris Samorodov Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:00:01 +0400 In-Reply-To: (Subhro's message of "Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:00:56 +0530") Message-ID: <24609870@srv.sem.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Acroread not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:58:51 -0000 On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:00:56 +0530 Subhro wrote: > I have installed acroread from the ports collection. I am running > FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE. When I am trying to run the same from the > command line, I am getting quite a few errors. I have pasted the error > below. Try to follow the advices at /usr/ports/UPDATING: 20060616: AFFECTS users of emulation/linux_base-*. If that won't help, let us know. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 06:57:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B9716A407 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:57:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elessar@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E6C43D55 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:57:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elessar@bsdforen.de) Received: from loki.starkstrom.lan (p549CFD47.dip.t-dialin.net [84.156.253.71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266E6424105 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:57:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:56:46 +0200 From: Joerg Pernfuss Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061016085646.11a61a58@loki.starkstrom.lan> In-Reply-To: <200610151842.24375.lane@joeandlane.com> References: <200610151819.13127.lane@joeandlane.com> <20061015191858.837561c2.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <200610151842.24375.lane@joeandlane.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.2.3 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_np=x.OEsgyoEF.bA63xD.9f"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: libphp4.so not installed from /usr/ports/lang/php4 and mod_php4 is gone??!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:57:30 -0000 --Sig_np=x.OEsgyoEF.bA63xD.9f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:42:24 -0500 Lane wrote: > But still I get nothing. >=20 > Perhaps mod_php is no longer available for FreeBSD 5.4? Please post the output of: `pkg_info -L php4-4.4.4` `cat /var/db/ports/php4/options` Joerg --=20 | /"\ ASCII ribbon | GnuPG Key ID | e86d b753 3deb e749 6c3a | | \ / campaign against | 0xbbcaad24 | 5706 1f7d 6cfd bbca ad24 | | X HTML in email | .the next sentence is true. | | / \ and news | .the previous sentence was a lie. | --Sig_np=x.OEsgyoEF.bA63xD.9f Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFMy0uH31s/bvKrSQRArZPAJ9KxSNklVEIQb/tPQwSdYbSqU99tgCfQY1Y xOckvXWQ8HG0htzpsFLwAfg= =BJou -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_np=x.OEsgyoEF.bA63xD.9f-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 07:38:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD03716A403 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:38:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD91143D46 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:38:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9G7bvY6008243 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:37:58 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9G7cYhu080741; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:38:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9G7cX54080740; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:38:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:38:33 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Mark Message-ID: <20061016073833.GH80186@gothmog.pc> References: <200610141827.k9EIQvId018475@asarian-host.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200610141827.k9EIQvId018475@asarian-host.net> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.586, required 5, AWL -0.19, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: "canary mismatch on efree()" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:38:54 -0000 On 2006-10-14 18:27, Mark wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm running Apache/1.3.37 (Unix) and PHP/4.4.4 with Suhosin-Patch. All of > a sudden I get this in my log: > > [Sat Oct 14 19:54:32 2006] [error] ALERT - canary mismatch on efree() - > heap overflow or double efree detected (attacker '192.168.1.4', file > '/www/vhosts/asarian-host.net/htdocs/phpMyAdmin/index.php') > > This is not good. If a simple thing like phpMyAdmin causes it, then I will > have to disable the Suhosin-Patch (which propably means recompiling from > scratch, right?). o What version of FreeBSD are you using? o What php-related and apache-related packages have you installed and what options did you use while installing them? o Does this happen only with phpMyAdmin or with other PHP scripts too? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 08:04:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C095516A403 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=knld1LbS=D5=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D727743D67 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:04:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from SRS0=knld1LbS=D5=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9G84YAT019576 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:04:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) From: Mark Received-SPF: pass (asarian-host.net: 127.0.0.1 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) receiver=anonymizer.asarian-host.net; client-ip=127.0.0.1; envelope-from=; helo=clientrunner.asarian-host.net; Message-Id: <200610160804.k9G84WV8019562@asarian-host.net> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:04:33 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-Trace: 2wK35LAL5J5cMkP6ml83qP4W3+1MOg20Yn8rqedGjeOf5rH/4xTorhYebaH+VJYf X-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint Organization: Asarian-host To: "'Lane'" , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 In-Reply-To: <200610151842.24375.lane@joeandlane.com> X-Auth: Asarian-host PGP signature iQEVAwUARTM9EjFqW1BleBN9AQGWTAf+ITxkpAw6/sjNchANxGNOx2taJt7G+B6O 6zOqSPPs8upDj38ISsI1akAFjhB711ugwAoroSFj3UuRBCofKChdgQ26jyVTdffU TtOUDg0bdZ0yfU0fT+gR8UFddWXK0Q61AF1C3bwHTAi+DNTkeIm+JNV0b+Ujx2er TJCt4itIB9sroZa1jeVJfhacVHLXJDo9JuKFZRANtJhA6feMbTCUXshqpNVNSX+P i1kAy72Mvy/UpStYvBvep/CbJE5BUeBa8ftio+ry2G7QTESMf9VVlXlKgssy33ue Zq4Nuaqj6vW6t05qC734yxPDSKr51tQ7raDQE3WeuoJuKxBa0uDMvg== =FyoW Cc: Subject: RE: libphp4.so not installed from /usr/ports/lang/php4 and mod_php4is gone??!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:04:36 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Lane > Sent: maandag 16 oktober 2006 1:41 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: libphp4.so not installed from > /usr/ports/lang/php4 and mod_php4is gone??!! > > > > > So ... now the question .... > > > > > > How do I get mod_php working again? (with Apache13) > > > > cd /usr/ports/lang/php4 > > make config > > (select the Apache module from the menu) > > rebuild/reinstall php. > > Thanks, Bill. > > But that does not install libphp4.so. libphp4.so is not > created, or if it is created it has a name OTHER than libphp4.so. That is odd. I just built the same port myself, only two days ago, and libphp4.so is most certainly built and installed as: /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp4.so > and then: > > locate mod_php > > But still I get nothing. There's no such file created as mod_php* (even though perhaps confusingly Apache lists "AddModule mod_php4.c" in httpd.conf; but that's normal). > So I compiled the port with -DAPACHE=yes That shouldn't be necessary. Just "make" suffices. You could perhaps try: "WITH_APACHE=yes", to ensure it uses 1.3+ as version. And, to state the obvious, did you try "make clean" first? - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 08:41:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D06616A403 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB97D43D49 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:41:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from [66.47.111.183] (helo=joeandlane.com) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GZO2P-0006MM-Bn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:41:33 -0400 Received: from joeandlane.com (localhost.localnet.local [127.0.0.1]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9G8iFSZ058823 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:44:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id k9G8iFs1058822 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:44:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) X-Authentication-Warning: joeandlane.com: lholcombe set sender to lane@joeandlane.com using -f From: Lane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:44:15 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <200610151819.13127.lane@joeandlane.com> <200610151842.24375.lane@joeandlane.com> <20061016085646.11a61a58@loki.starkstrom.lan> In-Reply-To: <20061016085646.11a61a58@loki.starkstrom.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610160344.15689.lane@joeandlane.com> X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner-From: lane@joeandlane.com X-ELNK-Trace: e56a4b6ca9bdfda11aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79bf4e6455e0c754a1f255d5a71e273d0f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.47.111.183 Subject: Re: libphp4.so not installed from /usr/ports/lang/php4 and mod_php4 is gone??!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:41:34 -0000 On Monday 16 October 2006 01:56, Joerg Pernfuss wrote: > On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:42:24 -0500 > > Lane wrote: > > But still I get nothing. > > > > Perhaps mod_php is no longer available for FreeBSD 5.4? > > Please post the output of: > > `pkg_info -L php4-4.4.4` > `cat /var/db/ports/php4/options` > > Joerg Joerg, Mark, and others: Apparently the problem is now solved. I did make deinstall from /usr/ports/lang/php4 then I lost power (meaning the computer rebooted). When the power came back on I (once again) ran "make config all install" from /usr/ports/lang/php4 and voila! /usr/local/libexec/libphp4.so was installed! I give up. Thanks for your interest. lane From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 09:00:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BA516A416 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:00:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from payne@magidesign.com) Received: from ciphertrust.com (delta.ciphertrust.com [216.235.158.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D456C43D45 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:00:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from payne@magidesign.com) Received: from ([10.40.30.12]) by mail0.ciphertrust.com with ESMTP id MAIL0S100.851949; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:00:18 -0400 Message-ID: <45334A63.2080002@magidesign.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:01:23 -0400 From: Payne User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Macintosh/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Multi-CPU Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:00:41 -0000 Hi all, Hello I have a question. I got a box. I got a strange message... SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! Is there a place under /proc that I can see if the first processor still working? Do I need to reboot the box, what does that message mean? Why does it happen? Thanks Payne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 09:09:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A3116A4A0 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A0143D46 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:09:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from [66.47.111.183] (helo=joeandlane.com) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GZOTA-00053B-OG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:09:12 -0400 Received: from joeandlane.com (localhost.localnet.local [127.0.0.1]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9G9C4oP059076 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:12:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id k9G9C4mf059075 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:12:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) X-Authentication-Warning: joeandlane.com: lholcombe set sender to lane@joeandlane.com using -f From: Lane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:12:03 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <45334A63.2080002@magidesign.com> In-Reply-To: <45334A63.2080002@magidesign.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610160412.03996.lane@joeandlane.com> X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner-From: lane@joeandlane.com X-ELNK-Trace: e56a4b6ca9bdfda11aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79f36bfaa0f8aad1f1644bb447c89d7ce1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.47.111.183 Subject: Re: Multi-CPU Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:09:14 -0000 On Monday 16 October 2006 04:01, Payne wrote: > Hi all, > > Hello I have a question. I got a box. I got a strange message... > > SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! > > Is there a place under /proc that I can see if the first processor still > working? Do I need to reboot the box, what does that message mean? Why > does it happen? > > Thanks > > > Payne > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Payne, I believe CPU #x Launched! means that your SMP Kernel is working properly, has detected the multiple CPU's and has begun using them. My CPU's are numbered #0 and #1 so I get "CPU #1 Launched!" lane From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 09:26:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F9016A412 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:26:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from payne@magidesign.com) Received: from ciphertrust.com (delta.ciphertrust.com [216.235.158.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F209843D49 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:26:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from payne@magidesign.com) Received: from ([10.40.30.12]) by mail0.ciphertrust.com with ESMTP id MAIL0S100.852184; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:25:49 -0400 Message-ID: <4533505E.1090507@magidesign.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:26:54 -0400 From: Payne User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Macintosh/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lane References: <45334A63.2080002@magidesign.com> <200610160412.03996.lane@joeandlane.com> In-Reply-To: <200610160412.03996.lane@joeandlane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multi-CPU Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:26:09 -0000 Lane wrote: > On Monday 16 October 2006 04:01, Payne wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Hello I have a question. I got a box. I got a strange message... >> >> SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! >> >> Is there a place under /proc that I can see if the first processor still >> working? Do I need to reboot the box, what does that message mean? Why >> does it happen? >> >> Thanks >> >> >> Payne >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > Payne, > > I believe CPU #x Launched! means that your SMP Kernel is working properly, has > detected the multiple CPU's and has begun using them. > > My CPU's are numbered #0 and #1 so I get "CPU #1 Launched!" > > lane > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Where in /proc can I see that? Payne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 09:43:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6B416A407 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:43:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEE243D5D for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:43:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from [66.47.111.183] (helo=joeandlane.com) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GZP0b-0005pA-8f; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:43:45 -0400 Received: from joeandlane.com (localhost.localnet.local [127.0.0.1]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9G9kblO059411; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:46:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id k9G9kZGU059410; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:46:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) X-Authentication-Warning: joeandlane.com: lholcombe set sender to lane@joeandlane.com using -f From: Lane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:46:34 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <45334A63.2080002@magidesign.com> <200610160412.03996.lane@joeandlane.com> <4533505E.1090507@magidesign.com> In-Reply-To: <4533505E.1090507@magidesign.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610160446.35143.lane@joeandlane.com> X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner-From: lane@joeandlane.com X-ELNK-Trace: e56a4b6ca9bdfda11aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec796a8e62b7c1d915e64ad4a26870943420350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.47.111.183 Cc: Payne Subject: Re: Multi-CPU Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:43:52 -0000 On Monday 16 October 2006 04:26, you wrote: > Lane wrote: > > On Monday 16 October 2006 04:01, Payne wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Hello I have a question. I got a box. I got a strange message... > >> > >> SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! > >> > >> Is there a place under /proc that I can see if the first processor still > >> working? Do I need to reboot the box, what does that message mean? Why > >> does it happen? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> > >> Payne > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Payne, > > > > I believe CPU #x Launched! means that your SMP Kernel is working > > properly, has detected the multiple CPU's and has begun using them. > > > > My CPU's are numbered #0 and #1 so I get "CPU #1 Launched!" > > > > lane > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Where in /proc can I see that? > > Payne Hmmm... I don't know that you can see it in /proc. Read "man smp" and follow the "SEE ALSO" section. mptable shows some configuration information about SMP. Also you can see activity in various CPU's with "top" lane From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 10:47:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B9416A407 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:47:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8964E43D45 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:47:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so669725uge for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:47:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CpntYFr3CVChOgTtSPel8yAIbkF25gcAlUq+zzdAcUcL3dxt0NKY0nBI5/w7rE2ylpavJmpk8MSNnN+PJUdTvYYCVjDF4OgI3NLnrV1jt74/DnvvAXpWzk/HEW8CUfimTmOlYmbRo+YxXRC7oLiytbPj/ZGBggfTEx65/R5MoZQ= Received: by 10.66.252.4 with SMTP id z4mr3425ugh; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.237.14 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <755cb9fc0610160347y8fde52bq2fa095bdf33f2ab5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:47:22 +0100 From: "Alexandre Vieira" To: "Jeff Mohler" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20061016053718.GA7608@lakshmi.susmita.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:47:24 -0000 On 10/16/06, Jeff Mohler wrote: > > Linux has iSCSI...which hands Fbsd a real beating in the server space. > > I work on projects at more customers than I can keep track of that > -have- to use Linux in the middle of Fbsd farms just because of the > amazing lack of iscsi support. > > Linux has been doing iscsi since what..2002 or so? Maybe 2003? > > C;mon..yes, I know a brave soul is starting work on it now, but how > did the Fbsd effort let this lie for so long? > > > > On 10/15/06, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 12:35:13AM -0400, Andy Harrison wrote: > > > On 10/15/06, William Tracy wrote: > > > > > > > > >So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD > > >can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back. > > > > Ah well, you have to experience it. No amount of convincing or > intellectual gymnastics will help you. > > > > Know that in the software ecosystem there is a place for everything. > > > > There are situations in which you have to use linux and even Windoze. > > > > But things are so vibrant that more and more Windoze apps are available > in linux and FreeBSD and also in NetBSD and OpenBSD. > > > > Personally for me linux has very good support for a wide range of TV > cards, remote controls and other rare hardware. > > > > BSDs also have support but somewhat limited. > > > > FreeBSD gives you CCD,GEOM,GDBE, netgraph and various other features > hard to find in other OSes. Some equivalents exist but not as good. > > > > OpenBSD has very good IPsec , pf , BGP and other networking stuff. pf is > also available on FreeBSD but I doubt if it is as well integrated and > feature rich as OpenBSD. > > > > Linux has a lousy file system and is somewhat unstable and will throw > surprises if you stress it or use it in unexpected ways. > > > > Whereas BSDs have very very good stability. For instance FreeBSD will > give roughly 20 to 30% better overall performance compared to Linux. This is > subjective and dependent on various factors but this has been my experience. > > > > In terms of packages FreeBSD I think has the largest number since it can > emulate linux binaries too. > > > > I can go on but I suggest you try things with an open mind. > > > > If you like it, stick to it , else go back. > > > > Nobody is forcing you. > > > > But remember, give it enough time and be open. > > > > regards, > > Girish > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hello, As far as I can tell Linux only had mainstream/official iscsi support in 2.6.12 (2005-06). -- Alexandre Vieira - nullpt@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 10:51:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0DE16A40F for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from matrix.teledomenet.gr (dns1.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10E643D46 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:51:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from iris ([192.168.1.71]) by matrix.teledomenet.gr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k9GApcEY008240; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:51:38 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:52:41 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <45334A63.2080002@magidesign.com> <200610160412.03996.lane@joeandlane.com> <4533505E.1090507@magidesign.com> In-Reply-To: <4533505E.1090507@magidesign.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610161352.41665.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: Payne Subject: Re: Multi-CPU Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:51:48 -0000 On Monday 16 October 2006 12:26, Payne wrote: > Where in /proc can I see that? Unlike Linux, FreeBSD shows only process and kernel thread information in procfs. The equivalent interface for seeing/changing system options is sysctl. Try "sysctl hw | less". For example: root:0:~# sysctl -d hw.ncpu hw.ncpu: Number of active CPUs root:0:~# sysctl hw.ncpu hw.ncpu: 1 It's better with descriptions, isn't it? HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 10:54:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E288516A407 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AAB43D5C for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:53:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so1845537nfc for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:53:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jci0RTogC2+MdTDNVoy64+7rbbd0nPnp53LpXXtuyh0XwrvUwVFvTFtLE9lm3HT7mcZO9jKfHKREh6mjN/zvoyawPwwi7VsNkuwQtmPrm2pvSyytcndgXj5Q0QSDXs5mIN/H5U4g0TcPV/JcBSai2ZavVTsgX/Jksv/qZOl1dfY= Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr11942446nfj; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.203.16 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:53:49 -0700 From: "Jeff Mohler" To: "Alexandre Vieira" In-Reply-To: <755cb9fc0610160347y8fde52bq2fa095bdf33f2ab5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061016053718.GA7608@lakshmi.susmita.org> <755cb9fc0610160347y8fde52bq2fa095bdf33f2ab5@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:54:09 -0000 That was after I left Netapp for a spell (and later came back once the vacation ran out) and it was supported before then by _something_ linux. That was fall of 03. Not trying to debate..just it'll still be 08 before it's likely to be universally supported. On 10/16/06, Alexandre Vieira wrote: > > > On 10/16/06, Jeff Mohler wrote: > > Linux has iSCSI...which hands Fbsd a real beating in the server space. > > > > I work on projects at more customers than I can keep track of that > > -have- to use Linux in the middle of Fbsd farms just because of the > > amazing lack of iscsi support. > > > > Linux has been doing iscsi since what..2002 or so? Maybe 2003? > > > > C;mon..yes, I know a brave soul is starting work on it now, but how > > did the Fbsd effort let this lie for so long? > > > > > > > > On 10/15/06, Girish Venkatachalam < girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 12:35:13AM -0400, Andy Harrison wrote: > > > > On 10/15/06, William Tracy < afishionado@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD > > > >can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back. > > > > > > Ah well, you have to experience it. No amount of convincing or > intellectual gymnastics will help you. > > > > > > Know that in the software ecosystem there is a place for everything. > > > > > > There are situations in which you have to use linux and even Windoze. > > > > > > But things are so vibrant that more and more Windoze apps are available > in linux and FreeBSD and also in NetBSD and OpenBSD. > > > > > > Personally for me linux has very good support for a wide range of TV > cards, remote controls and other rare hardware. > > > > > > BSDs also have support but somewhat limited. > > > > > > FreeBSD gives you CCD,GEOM,GDBE, netgraph and various other features > hard to find in other OSes. Some equivalents exist but not as good. > > > > > > OpenBSD has very good IPsec , pf , BGP and other networking stuff. pf is > also available on FreeBSD but I doubt if it is as well integrated and > feature rich as OpenBSD. > > > > > > Linux has a lousy file system and is somewhat unstable and will throw > surprises if you stress it or use it in unexpected ways. > > > > > > Whereas BSDs have very very good stability. For instance FreeBSD will > give roughly 20 to 30% better overall performance compared to Linux. This is > subjective and dependent on various factors but this has been my experience. > > > > > > In terms of packages FreeBSD I think has the largest number since it can > emulate linux binaries too. > > > > > > I can go on but I suggest you try things with an open mind. > > > > > > If you like it, stick to it , else go back. > > > > > > Nobody is forcing you. > > > > > > But remember, give it enough time and be open. > > > > > > regards, > > > Girish > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Hello, > > As far as I can tell Linux only had mainstream/official iscsi support in > 2.6.12 (2005-06). > > > > -- > Alexandre Vieira - nullpt@gmail.com > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 11:40:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B3F16A4CA for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:40:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msherman77@yahoo.com) Received: from web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com [216.39.53.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E654B43D67 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:40:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from msherman77@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 33862 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Oct 2006 11:40:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hdmId9jQzU2hilg8mM6gBkpeTn70kCcJ2dsWsCv/mYsW2/hcckrIDrW947WGO0haZVkWsxNuctNriPlGDMo7g93zWRFznqvef7e7+jS+mBhrD/Ql2Q6KfRjBPccM9p3la4NKhTdXbXffTEQciBu0NvrXJ9bBKMkE9iwO4EApgtU= ; Message-ID: <20061016114030.33860.qmail@web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.65.68.246] by web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:40:30 EDT Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:40:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael S To: Subhro , FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Flash Plugin not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:40:35 -0000 I followed the link below (just executed the commands, I can't read Portuguese) and everything worked fine. http://www.unixlike.com.br/?p=%2081 --- Subhro wrote: > Hello, > > I am running FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE on i386 > hardware. I have installed > linux-firefox and linux-flashplugin from the ports > collection. The > same is iterated by pkg_info. > > [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ pkg_info | grep flash > linux-flashplugin-7.0r68 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI > Plugin > [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ linux-firefox > [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ pkg_info | grep firefox > firefox-1.5.0.7,1 Web browser based on the browser > portion of Mozilla > linux-firefox-1.5.0.7 Web browser based on the > browser portion of Mozilla > > However when I am trying to open any sites from > linux-firefox, the > embedded flash applications are not displayed. Also > the browser > complains about missing plugin. > > I have checked the installed plugins by typing > about:plugins. But > there is no flash plugin displayed there either. > > Where am I going wrong? > > Thanks and Best Regards > Subhro > > -- > Subhro Kar > Security Engineer > iViZ Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd. > Dhanshree Bldg, 1st Floor > Plot XI-16, Sector V > Salt Lake City > 700091 > India > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 11:46:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBD416A4E0 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:46:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msherman77@yahoo.com) Received: from web88309.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web88309.mail.re4.yahoo.com [216.39.53.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A55DC43D80 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:46:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from msherman77@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 30762 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Oct 2006 11:46:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1rvxWO/iv5zJ1xVSr9PZ6I1S4qZ9e2M6WYhWadh4pror2BfJm1xSE6RZ87dZDS5IgUpwG2KeJtiTi25B6x/v8OELQnK+rEEcCZEEzMfaNg64AFzwUjFsfCaqVDosg9qtiz/vOzPKHM9AdbB3NkIz1nrLq7lF9QfZ9Ck0AdRpW/E= ; Message-ID: <20061016114609.30760.qmail@web88309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.65.68.246] by web88309.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:46:09 EDT Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:46:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael S To: Subhro , FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Acroread not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:46:22 -0000 Have you enabled Linux emulation in your /etc/rc.conf ? Do you have the linux_base and related (linux_gtk, linux_XFree) ports installed? Have you also added linuxprocfs to your /etc/fstab file? --- Subhro wrote: > Hello Folks, > > I have installed acroread from the ports collection. > I am running > FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE. When I am trying to run the > same from the > command line, I am getting quite a few errors. I > have pasted the error > below. > > > [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ acroread > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open > pixbuf loader > module file '/ > > etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No > such file or directory > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading > XPM image loader: > Image typ > e 'xpm' is not supported > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open > pixbuf loader > module file '/ > > etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No > such file or directory > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading > XPM image loader: > Image typ > e 'xpm' is not supported > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open > pixbuf loader > module file '/ > > etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No > such file or directory > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading > XPM image loader: > Image typ > e 'xpm' is not supported > > (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: > g_object_ref: assertion > `G_IS_OBJECT > (object)' failed > > (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: > g_object_ref: assertion > `G_IS_OBJECT > (object)' failed > > (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: > g_object_ref: assertion > `G_IS_OBJECT > (object)' failed > > (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: > g_object_unref: assertion > `G_IS_OBJEC > T (object)' failed > > (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: > g_object_unref: assertion > `G_IS_OBJEC > T (object)' failed > > (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: > g_object_unref: assertion > `G_IS_OBJEC > T (object)' failed > > (acroread:6260): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file > gdkwindow-x11.c: line 3502 > (gdk_window_se > t_icon_list): > assertion > `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > (gdk_pixbuf_ > get_width): assertion > `pixbuf != NULL' > failed > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 > (gdk_pixbuf_ > get_height): > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' > failed > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > (gdk_pixbuf_ > get_width): assertion > `pixbuf != NULL' > failed > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 > (gdk_pixbuf_ > get_height): > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' > failed > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > (gdk_pixbuf_ > get_width): assertion > `pixbuf != NULL' > failed > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 > (gdk_pixbuf_ > get_height): > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' > failed > > (acroread:6260): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file > gdkwindow-x11.c: line 3502 > (gdk_window_se > t_icon_list): > assertion > `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > (gdk_pixbuf_ > get_width): assertion > `pixbuf != NULL' > failed > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 > (gdk_pixbuf_ > get_height): > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' > failed > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > (gdk_pixbuf_ > get_width): assertion > `pixbuf != NULL' > failed > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 > (gdk_pixbuf_ > get_height): > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' > failed > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > (gdk_pixbuf_ > get_width): assertion > `pixbuf != NULL' > failed > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 > (gdk_pixbuf_ > get_height): > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' > failed > > (acroread:6260): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file > gdkwindow-x11.c: line 3502 > (gdk_window_se > t_icon_list): > assertion > `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > (gdk_pixbuf_ > get_width): assertion > `pixbuf != NULL' > failed > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 > (gdk_pixbuf_ > get_height): > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' > failed > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > (gdk_pixbuf_ > === message truncated === From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 11:59:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE9616A549 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:59:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan.Johansen@cc.uit.no) Received: from mux2.uit.no (mux2.uit.no [129.242.5.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9E543D5F for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:59:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Johan.Johansen@cc.uit.no) Received: from flode.cc.uit.no (flode.cc.uit.no [129.242.6.250]) by mux2.uit.no (8.13.8/8.13.6/Mux) with ESMTP id k9GBxAZc078123 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:59:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tausa.cc.uit.no (tausa.cc.uit.no [129.242.6.78]) by flode.cc.uit.no (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k9GBxAHN007526; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:59:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from johan@cc.uit.no) Received: from tausa.cc.uit.no (localhost.cc.uit.no [127.0.0.1]) by tausa.cc.uit.no (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9GBxAAi012441; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:59:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from johan@tausa.cc.uit.no) Message-Id: <200610161159.k9GBxAAi012441@tausa.cc.uit.no> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.2 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:59:10 +0200 From: Johan Johansen X-Virus-Scanned: : ok X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 129.242.5.252 Cc: johan.johansen@cc.uit.no Subject: Re: atapicam trouble X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:59:18 -0000 I still have the same problem as below, even when running 6.2-BETA2 from a FreeSBIE - cd. I wonder if this could have to do with badly supportet motherboard, ASUS P5B, since I dont see any temp-readings with sysctl. cpuTemp and MBTemp are displayed under bios-config. Another "funny" thing, if I read disk-data with smartmontools, smartctl -a /dev/ad10 [irq19: re0 uhci3++] starts using a hole cpu for itself, and only a reboot helps. mvh > > I run 6.1-STABLE-200607 on my brand new box with > Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2 x 2,40 GHz cpu (beautiful piece of machinery) > > I can use my dvd-devices with atapicd, but atapicam do not work. > > kldload atapicam causes an interrupt storm, I guess. > I tried to take out atapicd from the kernel after reading > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/73675 > In fact, I removed ataraid atapifd atapist too, without any luck. > > Here is output from top -S a few seconds after kldload atapicam > > last pid: 600; load averages: 0.24, 0.24, 0.11 up > 0+00:02:36 11:27:53 > 88 processes: 5 running, 64 sleeping, 19 waiting > CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 43.8% interrupt, 56.2% idle > Mem: 22M Active, 9604K Inact, 28M Wired, 15M Buf, 1943M Free > Swap: 4070M Total, 4070M Free > > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND > 11 root 1 171 52 0K 8K RUN 1 2:03 99.26% idle: cpu1 > 12 root 1 171 52 0K 8K RUN 0 1:54 62.26% idle: cpu0 > 22 root 1 -64 -183 0K 8K CPU0 0 0:09 36.41% irq16: uhci0+ > 31 root 1 -68 -187 0K 8K WAIT 1 0:01 0.00% irq19: re0 > uhci3++ > > Could anyone point me in a direction too solve this, please? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 12:53:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0B816A407 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kyrreny@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2947843D62 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:53:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kyrreny@broadpark.no) Received: from broadpark.no ([217.13.4.96]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J7800F7OBSQTB50@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:53:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [80.202.4.61] (Forwarded-For: [80.203.212.30]) by bgo1mstore1.broadpark.no (mshttpd); Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:53:14 +0200 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:53:14 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kyrre_Nyg=E5rd?= To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Cc: Subject: I am such a fool! How to recover my data? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:53:23 -0000 Hello, thanks for checking this out! My hard disk and I are in a rather tight situation right now. I believe my partition table's system ID is messed up. Other things are probably messed up too, however I have not done anything which would constitute a format of my data -- hence I hope that whatever data is still there. I believe I've been a fool. The hard drive in question is hard drive 1, a 150gb S-ATA that ran Windows XP and NTFS. Hard drive 2, same type, ran FreeBSD and UFS. I was lacking space in Windows, so I decided to format hard drive 2 into NTFS. I right clicked on My Computer, went to Manage, then Disk Management and then I did what I was suppose to do. Everything went fine. I backed up some data to hard drive 2, which was now NTFS, and enjoyed my session a little bit more before I rebooted. But then, NTLDR was missing. I figured this was because my hard drive 2 had GRUB installed allowing me to dual boot between FreeBSD and Windows. But since it was now NTFS, the MBR now suffered problems. So I figured all I had to do was to remove the FreeBSD MBR, so silly me booted the FreeBSD installation CD and pretended to do an installation, went into fdisk, selected Use entire disk, set it to system ID 6, which is FAT, and then selected Standard boot loader. I don't know what I was thinking, I hadn't eaten all day. A few steps later, the process failed, after all I didn't actually want to format or install anything. Nothing happened. Next I played around with boot0cfg -B on /dev/ad0 and /dev/ad1. Nothing happened there either. Then I went into the Windows XP setup's recovery console and did a fixmbr as well as fixboot. Still, nothing happened. I am currently running gpart /dev/ad0 from FreeSBIE, hoping I'll get lucky. Is there any chance at all I may rescue my data? All the best, Kyrre From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 13:06:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DD716A412 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from n126.sc0.cp.net (smtpout1096.sc0.he.tucows.com [64.97.144.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0298343D58 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:06:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (67.47.213.85) by n126.sc0.cp.net (7.2.069.1) (authenticated as eagletree@hughes.net) id 45314A240003BD1E for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:05:55 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <84143DDA-3AA3-4010-816C-5131C6EF4C86@hughes.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: FreeBSD Questions From: Chris Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:05:38 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Deinstalling X-windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:06:13 -0000 I could swear this was asked but I don't recall the answer and I've googled bsd till blue. Since starting portupgrade, I've noticed the majority of time is spent bringing various X ports up to date. I was thinking of make deinstall all of X as we use only command line. To explain, we have always installed FreeBSD, pulled in a couple of ports then obtained the major service components we used from their actual provider (e.g. grabbed apache from apache.org). I'm shifting all our machines to use ports and keep them updated but X is somewhat in the way. (BTW, I'm not putting down X, would love to use it, it's just unlikely to do gui admin work via satellite which is how I have to reach our servers). Below is the list of components I didn't install which I'm guessing I don't need on a server (or at least have never had on a server prior to upgrading our machines to 6.x). The old installation always asked if I wanted X and I'd skip it. Can I deep six them, or, because they are now in the base, should I keep them for the integrity of the installation? I apologize that I can't test this myself, I don't have a non- production machine to play with just now. xorg-clients-6.9.0_3 X client programs and related files from X.Org xorg-documents-6.9.0 Documentation of X11 protocol and libraries from X.Org xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.9.0_1 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1 X.Org font encoding files xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.9.0_1 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0 X.Org TrueType fonts xorg-fonts-type1-6.9.0 X.Org Type1 fonts xorg-fontserver-6.9.0_1 X font server from X.Org xorg-libraries-6.9.0 X11 libraries and headers from X.Org xorg-manpages-6.9.0 X.Org library manual pages xorg-nestserver-6.9.0_1 Nesting X server from X.Org xorg-printserver-6.9.0_2 X Print server from X.Org xorg-vfbserver-6.9.0_2 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org xterm-220 Terminal emulator for the X Window System From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 13:13:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC5F16A416 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@troback.com) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127DC43D45 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:13:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@troback.com) Received: from server25.gelita.swe (212-162-182-242.skbbip.com [212.162.182.242]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403DF10F9F3 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:13:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:13:43 +0200 From: Anders Troback To: FreeBSD Ports Message-ID: <20061016151343.2d6a7030@server25.gelita.swe> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.2 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Troback-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Troback-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Troback-MailScanner-From: freebsd@troback.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Nvidia on CURRENT... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:13:57 -0000 Hi, X can't use the nvidia module and kldunload nvidia causes: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode. Any ideas? Thanks!!! PS. CURRENT cvsuped 6 hours ago! --=20 Anders Trob=E4ck http://www.troback.com/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming, or what?" -------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 13:15:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07AC516A403 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kyrreny@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E5943D5C for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:14:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kyrreny@broadpark.no) Received: from broadpark.no ([217.13.4.96]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J7800FR9CSSTD70@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:14:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [80.202.4.61] (Forwarded-For: [80.203.212.30]) by bgo1mstore1.broadpark.no (mshttpd); Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:14:52 +0200 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:14:52 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kyrre_Nyg=E5rd?= To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Cc: Subject: Re: I am such a fool! How to recover my data? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:15:04 -0000 I forgot to mention that yeah, everything thinks my hard drive is FAT now. I disconnected hard drive 2 long time ago too, so it's out of the picture. And if gpart fails me now, I have no idea what to do. I hope I don't have to invest in some proprietary data recovery software. All the best, Kyrre From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 13:18:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5856916A412 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6ACD43D66 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:18:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.7.193] (68.Red-80-34-55.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.34.55.68]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F392E037; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:18:05 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <45338688.8030803@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:18:00 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris References: <84143DDA-3AA3-4010-816C-5131C6EF4C86@hughes.net> In-Reply-To: <84143DDA-3AA3-4010-816C-5131C6EF4C86@hughes.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Deinstalling X-windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:18:30 -0000 Chris wrote: > Can I deep six them, or, because they are now in the base, should I keep > them for the > integrity of the installation? I apologize that I can't test this > myself, I don't have a non- > production machine to play with just now. > > xorg-clients-6.9.0_3 X client programs and related files from X.Org > xorg-documents-6.9.0 Documentation of X11 protocol and libraries from X.Org > xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts > xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts > xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.9.0_1 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts > xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1 X.Org font encoding files > xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.9.0_1 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts > xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0 X.Org TrueType fonts > xorg-fonts-type1-6.9.0 X.Org Type1 fonts > xorg-fontserver-6.9.0_1 X font server from X.Org > xorg-libraries-6.9.0 X11 libraries and headers from X.Org > xorg-manpages-6.9.0 X.Org library manual pages > xorg-nestserver-6.9.0_1 Nesting X server from X.Org > xorg-printserver-6.9.0_2 X Print server from X.Org > xorg-vfbserver-6.9.0_2 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org > xterm-220 Terminal emulator for the X Window System I assume that you do all the administration using ssh. You can tunnel X trough ssh if you need to, but if you never use X for managing the servers just deinstall. Use # pkg_delete -x xorg- to deinstall, by default it will not deinstall if there are dependencies. There is one package you may need even if you don't run any X apps: xorg-libraries. I need it to do image manipulation on the command line with ImageMagick. I think you can set WITHOUT_X11=YES in your make.conf so apps won't be built with X in the future. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 13:26:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A1016A492 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765A543E03 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:24:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 16 Oct 2006 09:24:43 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id MJI72300; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-203-219.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.203.219]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 16 Oct 2006 09:24:36 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,315,1157342400"; d="scan'208"; a="294004307:sNHT22357558" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17715.34777.403736.355759@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:23:37 -0400 To: Chris In-Reply-To: <84143DDA-3AA3-4010-816C-5131C6EF4C86@hughes.net> References: <84143DDA-3AA3-4010-816C-5131C6EF4C86@hughes.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090201.453387BA.0085,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.113/2006-07-26 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Deinstalling X-windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:26:30 -0000 Chris writes: > Can I deep six them, or, because they are now in the base, should > I keep them for the integrity of the installation? I apologize > that I can't test this myself, I don't have a non- production > machine to play with just now. I believe there are ports that require X (or at least a subset of it) to build but not to run. Others will do so _unless_ you set the appropriate flag using "make config" or by using make variables. (No, I don't have a list or know how to generate one.) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 13:56:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F338916A407; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:56:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shildret@scotth.emsphone.com) Received: from scotth.emsphone.com (scotth.emsphone.com [199.67.51.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF4A43D46; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:56:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shildret@scotth.emsphone.com) Received: from scotth.emsphone.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scotth.emsphone.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9GDtlMx045619; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:55:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from shildret@scotth.emsphone.com) Received: (from shildret@localhost) by scotth.emsphone.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9GDtkDq045618; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:55:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from shildret@scotth.emsphone.com) From: "Scott T. Hildreth" To: corwin@aeternal.net In-Reply-To: <4531FFCD.8040607@aeternal.net> References: <20060711162744.A22592@malcolm.berkeley.edu> <452C09B6.4030009@pobox.sk> <20061010220934.GA1484@dfwdamian.vail> <1160524816.70546.287.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> <4531FFCD.8040607@aeternal.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:55:45 -0500 Message-Id: <1161006945.52932.293.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-database@freebsd.org, Damian Wiest , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: shildreth@allantgroup.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:56:06 -0000 On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 11:30 +0200, Martin Hudec wrote: > Hello, > > Scott T. Hildreth wrote: > > He can't, DBD::Oracle uses oci underneath so he needs the Oracle client to get the shared > > libraries. Mike you also need to compile or install a linux perl and then install DBI & DBD::Oracle > > with the linux perl. You could use DBD::Proxy instead of installing DBD::Oracle. It installed > > with DBI. Type 'perldoc DBD::Proxy' to see the docs. If you need help, you can email me > > or join the dbi-users@perl.org. > > Not fully correct - when I wanted to use DBD::Oracle, I did not need to > install linux-perl - just instantclient (linux compatibility enabled) as > Martinko mentioned. And it worked. And DBD::Oracle has been used with > native perl. Interesting, I have not used the instantclient. I always have a full Oracle install, since I need the database. I will try that, DBD::Oracle must not be linking with the libcltnsh.so. > > > Martin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-database@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-database > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-database-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Scott T. Hildreth From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 14:00:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF5516A412 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:00:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7F843D58 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:00:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so1897701nfc for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:00:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JHCgEw2whISmewDX2vbYPNWEPK29Jov3bwS4Al/nZUwcczsXlhIMHllNJwbIiPrrWvjVpTITKRHcjiFsZXsUyHNL3sKPQvk7D6eSRWQ7E5Fn2jpLtQ3R0TCoHS4C+VdXBF3R89gmYUKcX85iYVqwJ60w3p7zBBVh11R0xTvBzsA= Received: by 10.48.220.15 with SMTP id s15mr12224803nfg; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.67.20 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:30:10 +0530 From: Subhro To: "Michael S" In-Reply-To: <20061016114609.30760.qmail@web88309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061016114609.30760.qmail@web88309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Acroread not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:00:33 -0000 Thanks for your reply Michael. Here is the output: phoenix# pkg_info | grep linux linux-atk-1.9.1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary linux-expat-1.95.8 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library linux-firefox-1.5.0.7 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla linux-flashplugin-7.0r68 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin linux-glib2-2.6.6 Version 2.X Linux/i386 binary port of GLib linux-gtk-1.2.10_4 RPM of the Gtk lib linux-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5 A high-color icon theme shell from the FreeDesktop project linux-jpeg-6b.34 RPM of the JPEG lib linux-png-1.2.8_2 RPM of the PNG lib linux-tiff-3.7.1 TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary linux-xorg-libs-6.8.2_5 Xorg libraries, linux binaries linux_base-fc-4_9 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_6 A wrapper allowing use of linux-plugins with native applica Also I have installed acroread from ports. So sould it not fetch all the dependancies? Thanks Subhro On 10/16/06, Michael S wrote: > Have you enabled Linux emulation in your /etc/rc.conf > ? > Do you have the linux_base and related (linux_gtk, > linux_XFree) ports installed? > Have you also added linuxprocfs to your /etc/fstab > file? > > --- Subhro wrote: > > > Hello Folks, > > > > I have installed acroread from the ports collection. > > I am running > > FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE. When I am trying to run the > > same from the > > command line, I am getting quite a few errors. I > > have pasted the error > > below. > > > > > > [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ acroread > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open > > pixbuf loader > > module file '/ > > > > etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No > > such file or directory > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading > > XPM image loader: > > Image typ > > e 'xpm' is not supported > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open > > pixbuf loader > > module file '/ > > > > etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No > > such file or directory > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading > > XPM image loader: > > Image typ > > e 'xpm' is not supported > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open > > pixbuf loader > > module file '/ > > > > etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No > > such file or directory > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading > > XPM image loader: > > Image typ > > e 'xpm' is not supported > > > > (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: > > g_object_ref: assertion > > `G_IS_OBJECT > > (object)' failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: > > g_object_ref: assertion > > `G_IS_OBJECT > > (object)' failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: > > g_object_ref: assertion > > `G_IS_OBJECT > > (object)' failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: > > g_object_unref: assertion > > `G_IS_OBJEC > > T (object)' failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: > > g_object_unref: assertion > > `G_IS_OBJEC > > T (object)' failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: > > g_object_unref: assertion > > `G_IS_OBJEC > > T (object)' failed > > > > (acroread:6260): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file > > gdkwindow-x11.c: line 3502 > > (gdk_window_se > > t_icon_list): > > assertion > > `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > get_width): assertion > > `pixbuf != NULL' > > failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > get_height): > > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' > > failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > get_width): assertion > > `pixbuf != NULL' > > failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > get_height): > > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' > > failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > get_width): assertion > > `pixbuf != NULL' > > failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > get_height): > > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' > > failed > > > > (acroread:6260): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file > > gdkwindow-x11.c: line 3502 > > (gdk_window_se > > t_icon_list): > > assertion > > `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > get_width): assertion > > `pixbuf != NULL' > > failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > get_height): > > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' > > failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > get_width): assertion > > `pixbuf != NULL' > > failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > get_height): > > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' > > failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > get_width): assertion > > `pixbuf != NULL' > > failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > get_height): > > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' > > failed > > > > (acroread:6260): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file > > gdkwindow-x11.c: line 3502 > > (gdk_window_se > > t_icon_list): > > assertion > > `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > get_width): assertion > > `pixbuf != NULL' > > failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > get_height): > > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' > > failed > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > > === message truncated === > > -- Subhro Kar Security Engineer iViZ Techno Solutions Pvt. 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Dhanshree Bldg, 1st Floor Plot XI-16, Sector V Salt Lake City 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 14:13:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3243316A403 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msherman77@yahoo.com) Received: from web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com [216.39.53.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A87043D69 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:13:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from msherman77@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 91743 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Oct 2006 14:13:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fkQZOCyJxnM0DKejqi4HVFGNRXP7xsXlN8xDgSlI/27siO3wu/p93quLVrQCBpUWiSiPI9tmZ3PWLcquDjEfEAko9V2Sjn1mR7qKCjCX2wC4z9qVMkLLm4169pGk/KgsCSRV9l90r2ICBakb2sYI8LJPenZlp3HW2osbjEJ/bq0= ; Message-ID: <20061016141356.91741.qmail@web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.65.68.246] by web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:13:56 EDT Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:13:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael S To: Subhro In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Acroread not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:13:59 -0000 My setup is quite similar: linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.99.902_7 XFree86 libraries, Linux binary linux-aspell-0.50.4.1_1 Spelling checker with better logic than ispell (linux versi linux-atk-1.9.1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary linux-expat-1.95.8 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library linux-flashplugin-7.0r63_1 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_5 Linux/i386 binary of Fontconfig linux-glib2-2.6.6 Version 2.X Linux/i386 binary port of GLib linux-gtk2-2.6.10 GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux binary linux-jpeg-6b.34 RPM of the JPEG lib linux-openmotif-2.2.4_2 Motif toolkit Linux libraries linux-pango-1.8.1 Linux pango binary linux-png-1.2.8_2 RPM of the PNG lib linux-realplayer-10.0.7.785.20060201 Linux RealPlayer 10 from RealNetworks linux-tiff-3.7.1 TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary linux-xorg-libs-6.8.2_5 Xorg libraries, linux binaries linux_base-fc-4_8 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_4 A wrapper allowing use of linux-plugins with native applica linuxthreads-2.2.3_21 POSIX pthreads implementation using rfork to generate kerne I am running 5.5 on this machine though. And linux compatibility is enabled I assume? --- Subhro wrote: > Thanks for your reply Michael. Here is the output: > > phoenix# pkg_info | grep linux > linux-atk-1.9.1 Accessibility Toolkit, > Linux/i386 binary > linux-expat-1.95.8 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat > XML-parsing library > linux-firefox-1.5.0.7 Web browser based on the > browser portion of Mozilla > linux-flashplugin-7.0r68 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI > Plugin > linux-glib2-2.6.6 Version 2.X Linux/i386 binary > port of GLib > linux-gtk-1.2.10_4 RPM of the Gtk lib > linux-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5 A high-color icon theme > shell from the > FreeDesktop project > linux-jpeg-6b.34 RPM of the JPEG lib > linux-png-1.2.8_2 RPM of the PNG lib > linux-tiff-3.7.1 TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary > linux-xorg-libs-6.8.2_5 Xorg libraries, linux > binaries > linux_base-fc-4_9 Base set of packages needed in > Linux mode (for i386/amd64) > linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_6 A wrapper allowing use > of linux-plugins > with native applica > > Also I have installed acroread from ports. So sould > it not fetch all > the dependancies? > > Thanks > Subhro > > On 10/16/06, Michael S wrote: > > Have you enabled Linux emulation in your > /etc/rc.conf > > ? > > Do you have the linux_base and related (linux_gtk, > > linux_XFree) ports installed? > > Have you also added linuxprocfs to your /etc/fstab > > file? > > > > --- Subhro wrote: > > > > > Hello Folks, > > > > > > I have installed acroread from the ports > collection. > > > I am running > > > FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE. When I am trying to run > the > > > same from the > > > command line, I am getting quite a few errors. I > > > have pasted the error > > > below. > > > > > > > > > [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ acroread > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not > open > > > pixbuf loader > > > module file '/ > > > > > > etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No > > > such file or directory > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error > loading > > > XPM image loader: > > > Image typ > > > e 'xpm' is not > supported > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not > open > > > pixbuf loader > > > module file '/ > > > > > > etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No > > > such file or directory > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error > loading > > > XPM image loader: > > > Image typ > > > e 'xpm' is not > supported > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not > open > > > pixbuf loader > > > module file '/ > > > > > > etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No > > > such file or directory > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error > loading > > > XPM image loader: > > > Image typ > > > e 'xpm' is not > supported > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: > > > g_object_ref: assertion > > > `G_IS_OBJECT > > > (object)' failed > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: > > > g_object_ref: assertion > > > `G_IS_OBJECT > > > (object)' failed > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: > > > g_object_ref: assertion > > > `G_IS_OBJECT > > > (object)' failed > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: > > > g_object_unref: assertion > > > `G_IS_OBJEC > > > T (object)' failed > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: > > > g_object_unref: assertion > > > `G_IS_OBJEC > > > T (object)' failed > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: > > > g_object_unref: assertion > > > `G_IS_OBJEC > > > T (object)' failed > > > > > > (acroread:6260): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file > > > gdkwindow-x11.c: line 3502 > > > (gdk_window_se > > > t_icon_list): > > > assertion > > > `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > > get_width): > assertion > > > `pixbuf != NULL' > > > failed > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 > > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > > get_height): > > > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' > > > failed > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > > get_width): > assertion > > > `pixbuf != NULL' > > > failed > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 > > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > > get_height): > > > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' > > > failed > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > > get_width): > assertion > > > `pixbuf != NULL' > > > failed > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 497 > > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > > get_height): > > > assertion `pixbuf != NULL' > > > failed > > > > > > (acroread:6260): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file > > > gdkwindow-x11.c: line 3502 > > > (gdk_window_se > > > t_icon_list): > > > assertion > > > `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed > > > > > > (acroread:6260): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file > > > gdk-pixbuf.c: line 481 > > > (gdk_pixbuf_ > > > get_width): > assertion > > > `pixbuf != NULL' > === message truncated === From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 14:27:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14B416A403 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:27:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snagit@cbpratt.prohosting.com) Received: from n126.sc0.cp.net (smtpout1083.sc0.he.tucows.com [64.97.144.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4516B43D45 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:27:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from snagit@cbpratt.prohosting.com) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (67.47.213.85) by n126.sc0.cp.net (7.2.069.1) (authenticated as eagletree@hughes.net) id 45314A2400042386 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:27:17 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45338688.8030803@locolomo.org> References: <84143DDA-3AA3-4010-816C-5131C6EF4C86@hughes.net> <45338688.8030803@locolomo.org> Message-Id: From: Chris Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:27:01 -0700 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Deinstalling X-windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:27:40 -0000 On Oct 16, 2006, at 6:18 AM, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Chris wrote: > >> Can I deep six them, or, because they are now in the base, should >> I keep them for the >> integrity of the installation? I apologize that I can't test this >> myself, I don't have a non- >> production machine to play with just now. >> xorg-clients-6.9.0_3 X client programs and related files from X.Org > ... > I assume that you do all the administration using ssh. You can > tunnel X trough ssh if you need to, but if you never use X for > managing the servers just deinstall. > > Use > > # pkg_delete -x xorg- > > to deinstall, by default it will not deinstall if there are > dependencies. > > There is one package you may need even if you don't run any X apps: > xorg-libraries. I need it to do image manipulation on the command > line with ImageMagick. > > I think you can set WITHOUT_X11=YES in your make.conf so apps won't > be built with X in the future. First, sorry I keep forgetting to change my from address to the one that identifies me more. I just did on this reply. I really appreciate the responses, they answer what I asked but also another question I didn't ask, but was worrying about. We DO use ImageMagick and for the first time, I've installed it from ports. I didn't find any reference to WITHOUT_X11 in the man make.conf but immediately found it in the make for ImageMagick so you hit on the head. I'll research more for the other ports we are using and see if there similar flags. On the ssh comment, OT but Yes, I've tried tunnelling X and it worked great on my test LAN, but the satellite connection (Hughes best service) adds latency that thwarts any slick admin access I've tried. So in laziness, I've not strayed too far from simple command line access. My working location carries the concept of "working remotely" to absurdity. No DSL or Cable here. Thanks again, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 14:31:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DF016A415 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:31:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao.barros@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB14943D6D for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:31:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joao.barros@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o4so739517uge for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:31:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lgKT/gEkj8UP60RYizss1tptDDMuH01Ds074cuP2rmZMCI4fxmG0qcyZAOzWi1TsnN4r7336fKlUrmPXQ/W7OK0ow6egNuK2qS1kE61DJ5r96PL6yRYXRldQiVqWHYSHBZPZNAnq09SckvcnIYUtqQn/OS2wU0r8k8anoVgLBns= Received: by 10.78.157.8 with SMTP id f8mr7737745hue; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.173.8 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <70e8236f0610160731v12f644bv6ccbb118fb9a8cf1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:31:15 +0100 From: "Joao Barros" To: "Anders Troback" In-Reply-To: <20061016151343.2d6a7030@server25.gelita.swe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061016151343.2d6a7030@server25.gelita.swe> Cc: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Nvidia on CURRENT... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:31:18 -0000 On 10/16/06, Anders Troback wrote: > Hi, > > X can't use the nvidia module and kldunload nvidia causes: Fatal trap > 12: page fault while in kernel mode. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks!!! > > > PS. CURRENT cvsuped 6 hours ago! > Try recompiling the nvidia module. When recompiling a new kernel version always remind yourself to recompile the nvidia driver aswell :) -- Joao Barros From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 14:35:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F36F16A525 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob.middaugh@comcast.net) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [216.148.227.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAF543D49 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:35:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob.middaugh@comcast.net) Received: from freebsd (c71476cc.state.nj.us[199.20.118.204]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20061016143556m1100r8scpe>; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:35:56 +0000 From: "Bob M." To: William Tracy In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:38:09 -0400 Message-Id: <1161009489.26145.29.camel@freebsd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob.middaugh@comcast.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:35:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 15:26 -0700, William Tracy wrote: > I even compiled my own kernel so that > I'm all 1337. :-) What does this mean? > So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD > can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back. I would think if you spend enough time with it, these questions may be answered by yourself. I'm assuming you would know your likes/dislikes/opinions about Linux based on what you do with it. So, do the same things with FreeBSD and ask yourself if you feel compelled to keep using it or not. To ask us to "wow" you like some bizarre circus act is a little presumptuous on your part, no? Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 14:52:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E948016A415 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:52:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from sirian.hst.org.za (sirian.hst.org.za [209.203.2.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64C843D6B for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:52:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from localhost (localhost.hst.org.za [127.0.0.1]) by sirian.hst.org.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63AC31C32E for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:55:04 +0200 (SAST) Received: from sirian.hst.org.za ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sirian.hst.org.za [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 67573-02 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:55:04 +0200 (SAST) Received: by sirian.hst.org.za (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8861E31C2ED; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:55:04 +0200 (SAST) Received: from sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) by sirian.hst.org.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9419D31C15E for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:55:03 +0200 (SAST) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:54:49 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200610152219.47346.jonathan@hst.org.za> In-Reply-To: <200610152219.47346.jonathan@hst.org.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610161654.50208.jonathan@hst.org.za> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on sirian.hst.org.za X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.61 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hst.org.za Subject: Re: mimedefang with LDAP-enabled sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:52:54 -0000 On Sunday 15 October 2006 22:19, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > sendmail -d0.1 -bt > Version 8.13.6 > Compiled with: DNSMAP LDAPMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 > MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS > PIPELINING SASLv2 SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB > USE_LDAP_INIT XDEBUG > > When I try to build and install mail/mimedefang from ports (version is > 2.57), I get (modulo wrapping) > > cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -pthread -o mimedefang mimedefang.o > drop_privs_threaded.o utils.o rm_r.o syslog-fac.o /usr/lib/libmilter.a > -lpthread > > /usr/lib/libmilter.a(errstring.o)(.text+0xd6): In function `sm_errstring': > : undefined reference to `ldap_err2string' The undefined reference is apparently in libmilter.a and it seems (Google again) that the ldap_err2string symbol comes from the openldap library. Is it possible that the build of libmilter is not picking up libldap from /usr/local/lib? Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 15:03:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9403016A4D4 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:03:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwb@homer.att.com) Received: from mail146.messagelabs.com (mail146.messagelabs.com [216.82.245.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39BB943D49 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:03:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jwb@homer.att.com) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: jwb@homer.att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-146.messagelabs.com!1161010990!1488403!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [134.24.146.4] Received: (qmail 15958 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2006 15:03:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO attrh8i.attrh.att.com) (134.24.146.4) by server-13.tower-146.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2006 15:03:11 -0000 Received: from attrh.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by attrh8i.attrh.att.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k9GF24S2021760 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ulysses.homer.att.com (ulysses.homer.att.com [135.205.193.8]) by attrh8i.attrh.att.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k9GF1svs021671 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:02:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from akiva.homer.att.com (akiva.homer.att.com [135.205.212.39]) by ulysses.homer.att.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17579 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:02:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from akiva.homer.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by akiva.homer.att.com (8.11.7+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id k9GF2xe12909 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:02:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200610161502.k9GF2xe12909@akiva.homer.att.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <12906.1161010978.1@akiva.homer.att.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:02:59 -0400 From: "J. W. Ballantine" Subject: slice vanishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:03:14 -0000 Hi, I've been running BSD, for several versions, as a VMWARE client on a persistant disk. Recently, following an update to 6-stable/pre-release, the label for slice that the system was on has been removed. When I try and boot the system, it reads and loads the kernel but it fails when it trys to mount the file system. Is this an issue with 6-prerelease, VMWARE, or some interaction between the two? Any ideas are appreciated. Thanks Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 15:24:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7B116A40F for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0A543D46 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:24:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.7.193] (68.Red-80-34-55.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.34.55.68]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A162E037; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:24:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4533A429.7010704@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:24:25 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris References: <84143DDA-3AA3-4010-816C-5131C6EF4C86@hughes.net> <45338688.8030803@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Deinstalling X-windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:24:31 -0000 Chris wrote: > I really appreciate the responses, they answer what I asked but also > another question I didn't ask, but was worrying about. We DO use > ImageMagick and for the first time, I've installed it from ports. I > didn't find any reference to WITHOUT_X11 in the man make.conf but > immediately found it in the make for ImageMagick so you hit on the head. > I'll research more for the other ports we are using and see if there > similar flags. AFAIK The options documented for make.conf concerns building the base system. But you can add options for ports as well: Adding WITHOUT_X11=YES will cause all ports that support the option to be built without X11 so you don't have to specify it every time. Whether you install ImageMagick from ports or not, you need the X11 libraries. The pkg_delete or any other of the package/ports tools won't warn you about anything breaking unless it is installed from ports. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 15:47:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9B816A403; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:47:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shildreth@allantgroup.com) Received: from scotth.emsphone.com (scotth.emsphone.com [199.67.51.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BB643D55; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:47:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shildreth@allantgroup.com) Received: from scotth.emsphone.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scotth.emsphone.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9GFlbGJ047343; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:47:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from shildreth@allantgroup.com) Received: (from shildret@localhost) by scotth.emsphone.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9GFlbfL047342; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:47:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from shildreth@allantgroup.com) X-Authentication-Warning: scotth.emsphone.com: shildret set sender to shildreth@allantgroup.com using -f From: "Scott T. Hildreth" To: Vladimir Terziev In-Reply-To: <20061016171841.d569ea5e.vlady@gbservices.biz> References: <20060711162744.A22592@malcolm.berkeley.edu> <452C09B6.4030009@pobox.sk> <20061010220934.GA1484@dfwdamian.vail> <1160524816.70546.287.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> <4531FFCD.8040607@aeternal.net> <1161006945.52932.293.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> <20061016171841.d569ea5e.vlady@gbservices.biz> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:47:36 -0500 Message-Id: <1161013656.52932.301.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-database@freebsd.org, corwin@aeternal.net, Damian Wiest , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: shildreth@allantgroup.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:47:57 -0000 On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 17:18 +0300, Vladimir Terziev wrote: > I'm also interested of mixing native FreeBSD libraries and Linux once, if it's possible ... > > I tryed to install a DBD::Oracle module with natively build FreeBSD perl and Linux Oracle Instantclient. After some hacking of DBD::Oracle's make file, i managed to build native Oracle.so linked against Instantclient's libcltnsh.so library. > > When i tryed "use DBD::Oracle" in a perl script i got "Segmentation fault". > I don't think it's possible to intermix native FreeBSD libraries and Linux once used by a native FreeBSD executable. I didn't either, but I am going to try. :-) Martin, how did you do this? > > Vladimir > > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:55:45 -0500 > "Scott T. Hildreth" wrote: > > > On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 11:30 +0200, Martin Hudec wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Scott T. Hildreth wrote: > > > > He can't, DBD::Oracle uses oci underneath so he needs the Oracle client to get the shared > > > > libraries. Mike you also need to compile or install a linux perl and then install DBI & DBD::Oracle > > > > with the linux perl. You could use DBD::Proxy instead of installing DBD::Oracle. It installed > > > > with DBI. Type 'perldoc DBD::Proxy' to see the docs. If you need help, you can email me > > > > or join the dbi-users@perl.org. > > > > > > Not fully correct - when I wanted to use DBD::Oracle, I did not need to > > > install linux-perl - just instantclient (linux compatibility enabled) as > > > Martinko mentioned. And it worked. And DBD::Oracle has been used with > > > native perl. > > > > Interesting, I have not used the instantclient. I always have a full > > Oracle install, since I need the database. I will try that, > > DBD::Oracle must not be linking with the libcltnsh.so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-database@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-database > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-database-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > > Scott T. Hildreth > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-database@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-database > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-database-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Scott T. Hildreth From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 15:51:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B46216A403; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corwin@aeternal.net) Received: from amber.aeternal.net (amber.aeternal.net [212.232.17.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0B743D76; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:51:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from corwin@aeternal.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CB6B9A6; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:51:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at aeternal.net Received: from amber.aeternal.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (amber.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bfq-4tS07kMy; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:51:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [155.208.254.132] (grerel4.hp.com [155.208.254.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91F1B983; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:51:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4533AA65.9010708@aeternal.net> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:51:01 +0200 From: Martin Hudec User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: shildreth@allantgroup.com References: <20060711162744.A22592@malcolm.berkeley.edu> <452C09B6.4030009@pobox.sk> <20061010220934.GA1484@dfwdamian.vail> <1160524816.70546.287.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> <4531FFCD.8040607@aeternal.net> <1161006945.52932.293.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> <20061016171841.d569ea5e.vlady@gbservices.biz> <1161013656.52932.301.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <1161013656.52932.301.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Vladimir Terziev , freebsd-database@freebsd.org, Damian Wiest , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: corwin@aeternal.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:51:21 -0000 Hello, Scott T. Hildreth wrote: > I didn't either, but I am going to try. :-) > > Martin, how did you do this? Well, as I've already had linux compatibility present in the system, I've installed instantclient for linux and built DBD::Oracle. Currently I have it uninstalled as it is no longer needed for me, but I can try it and provide with instructions. DBD::Oracle was being used by CMS system of my previous employer, and that CMS was based on native perl stuff, not linux perl stuff. Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 15:54:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF9416A4E1; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vladimir.terziev@gbservices.biz) Received: from cat.gbservices.biz (cat-mtl.gbservices.biz [213.226.50.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9C843D69; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:53:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vladimir.terziev@gbservices.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost.gbs.gbdom.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E962EDB05; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:52:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fs.gbs.gbdom.com (fs.gbs.gbdom.com [192.168.2.244]) by cat.gbservices.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966B72EDB03; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:52:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.gbs.gbdom.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B2928504; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:52:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from daemon.gbs.gbdom.com (daemon.gbs.gbdom.com [192.168.2.104]) by fs.gbs.gbdom.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D423428503; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:52:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:52:45 +0300 From: Vladimir Terziev To: corwin@aeternal.net Message-Id: <20061016185245.3421bf44.vlady@gbservices.biz> In-Reply-To: <4533AA65.9010708@aeternal.net> References: <20060711162744.A22592@malcolm.berkeley.edu> <452C09B6.4030009@pobox.sk> <20061010220934.GA1484@dfwdamian.vail> <1160524816.70546.287.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> <4531FFCD.8040607@aeternal.net> <1161006945.52932.293.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> <20061016171841.d569ea5e.vlady@gbservices.biz> <1161013656.52932.301.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> <4533AA65.9010708@aeternal.net> Organization: GB Services Ltd. X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.9 (GTK+ 2.6.4; i386-unknown-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GBS-F X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GBS-C Cc: freebsd-database@freebsd.org, Damian Wiest , shildreth@allantgroup.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:54:15 -0000 I'll be very thankful if you provide working instructions how to intermix FreeBSD and Linux libraries. Thanks in advance! Vladimir On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:51:01 +0200 Martin Hudec wrote: > Hello, > > > Scott T. Hildreth wrote: > > I didn't either, but I am going to try. :-) > > > > Martin, how did you do this? > > Well, as I've already had linux compatibility present in the system, > I've installed instantclient for linux and built DBD::Oracle. > > Currently I have it uninstalled as it is no longer needed for me, but I > can try it and provide with instructions. > > DBD::Oracle was being used by CMS system of my previous employer, and > that CMS was based on native perl stuff, not linux perl stuff. > > > Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 15:08:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D0B16A407; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vladimir.terziev@gbservices.biz) Received: from cat.gbservices.biz (cat-mtl.gbservices.biz [213.226.50.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3921E43D77; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:08:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vladimir.terziev@gbservices.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost.gbs.gbdom.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC732EDBCD; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:36:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fs.gbs.gbdom.com (fs.gbs.gbdom.com [192.168.2.244]) by cat.gbservices.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C1D2EDD8B; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:18:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.gbs.gbdom.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC5428504; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:18:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from daemon.gbs.gbdom.com (daemon.gbs.gbdom.com [192.168.2.104]) by fs.gbs.gbdom.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B65A928503; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:18:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:18:41 +0300 From: Vladimir Terziev To: shildreth@allantgroup.com Message-Id: <20061016171841.d569ea5e.vlady@gbservices.biz> In-Reply-To: <1161006945.52932.293.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> References: <20060711162744.A22592@malcolm.berkeley.edu> <452C09B6.4030009@pobox.sk> <20061010220934.GA1484@dfwdamian.vail> <1160524816.70546.287.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> <4531FFCD.8040607@aeternal.net> <1161006945.52932.293.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> Organization: GB Services Ltd. X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.9 (GTK+ 2.6.4; i386-unknown-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GBS-F X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GBS-C X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:08:07 +0000 Cc: freebsd-database@freebsd.org, corwin@aeternal.net, Damian Wiest , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Scott T. Hildreth" Subject: Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:08:28 -0000 I'm also interested of mixing native FreeBSD libraries and Linux once, if it's possible ... I tryed to install a DBD::Oracle module with natively build FreeBSD perl and Linux Oracle Instantclient. After some hacking of DBD::Oracle's make file, i managed to build native Oracle.so linked against Instantclient's libcltnsh.so library. When i tryed "use DBD::Oracle" in a perl script i got "Segmentation fault". I don't think it's possible to intermix native FreeBSD libraries and Linux once used by a native FreeBSD executable. Vladimir On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:55:45 -0500 "Scott T. Hildreth" wrote: > On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 11:30 +0200, Martin Hudec wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Scott T. Hildreth wrote: > > > He can't, DBD::Oracle uses oci underneath so he needs the Oracle client to get the shared > > > libraries. Mike you also need to compile or install a linux perl and then install DBI & DBD::Oracle > > > with the linux perl. You could use DBD::Proxy instead of installing DBD::Oracle. It installed > > > with DBI. Type 'perldoc DBD::Proxy' to see the docs. If you need help, you can email me > > > or join the dbi-users@perl.org. > > > > Not fully correct - when I wanted to use DBD::Oracle, I did not need to > > install linux-perl - just instantclient (linux compatibility enabled) as > > Martinko mentioned. And it worked. And DBD::Oracle has been used with > > native perl. > > Interesting, I have not used the instantclient. I always have a full > Oracle install, since I need the database. I will try that, > DBD::Oracle must not be linking with the libcltnsh.so. > > > > > > > > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-database@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-database > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-database-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- > Scott T. Hildreth > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-database@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-database > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-database-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 16:23:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA1A16A403 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0680343D68 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:23:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1534184wxd for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:23:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=NhjQBr0S+YEvAtAT54rQ/A2LnVdJvBBYkI5R3x9JPdhjJ3IHPMZObzu3c/PuM9hr8l8qBqhjbEn/TPMGD2Q5O9nOgZ+M6xCvq8jQdlU7KY3i0f3ACQVSHfC4Z9b5kNwFs+Cmny3/XilzXBqZlZSeIhAS4tYW30NBCL5nzfGenKc= Received: by 10.90.94.2 with SMTP id r2mr3735851agb; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.100.15 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8cb6106e0610160923g6d8c1480nef76e579faa4991a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:23:28 -0700 From: "Josh Carroll" Sender: josh.carroll@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200610161159.k9GBxAAi012441@tausa.cc.uit.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200610161159.k9GBxAAi012441@tausa.cc.uit.no> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0906e240d591aaa3 Cc: Johan Johansen , Thomas Quinot Subject: Re: atapicam trouble X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:23:35 -0000 Johan, I have a PR submitted for this problem. I do not think it is particular to Asus P5B boards, as I tried a Gigabyte DS3 board and it had the same problem. PR is here: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=103602 I'm unable to copy a file from a udf-mounted DVD regardless of whether atapicam is loaded or not, so I'm not sure if atapicam is just making a problem more apparent or what. Are you able to do so? Thanks, Josh On 10/16/06, Johan Johansen wrote: > > > I still have the same problem as below, even when running 6.2-BETA2 from > a FreeSBIE - cd. I wonder if this could have to do with badly supportet > motherboard, ASUS P5B, since I dont see any temp-readings with sysctl. > cpuTemp and MBTemp are displayed under bios-config. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 16:35:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB84A16A407 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:35:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [195.115.46.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE1443D53 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:35:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345932A2AE for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:35:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.4.3 (20060930) at rmm.fr Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newmail.rmm.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lkFRavoGKPxz for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:35:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.16.1.201] (me.todoo.biz [82.66.93.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E392B2A27E for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:35:00 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3A36FE52-9F48-45D2-BEF2-D538331CA299@todoo.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Liste FreeBSD From: bsd Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:34:55 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: Upgrading in the same RELENG without shutdown ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:35:04 -0000 Hello, I have CVS-UP configured to follow RELENG_5_4 I was wondering if there is a way to patch (upgrading from 5.4-=20 RELEASE-p8 to a higher version) my system without going into the =20 classic : # make -j4 buildworld # make -j4 buildkernel # make -j4 installkernel # shutdown now And booting in single user // # fsck -p # mount -u / # mount -a -t ufs # swapon -a # cd /usr/src # mergemaster -p My system is in production and I am not onsite so this is a problem =20 for me to have to boot in single user mode. Is there a way to keep the system in multi-user mode while doing this ? And what are the risks if any ? Sincerly yours. ________________________________________________ =AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?= =BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz ________________________________________________ =AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?= =BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF P "Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing =20 this e-mail" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 17:40:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4075D16A403 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:40:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhorne@dfwlp.org) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C626343D45 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:40:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhorne@dfwlp.org) Received: from webmail.dfwlp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9GHehvH078249; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:40:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jhorne@dfwlp.org) Received: from 167.246.36.14 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jhorne) by webmail.dfwlp.org with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:40:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <28389.167.246.36.14.1161020443.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> In-Reply-To: <3A36FE52-9F48-45D2-BEF2-D538331CA299@todoo.biz> References: <3A36FE52-9F48-45D2-BEF2-D538331CA299@todoo.biz> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:40:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jonathan Horne" To: "bsd" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BIZ_TLD autolearn=ham version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on zeus.dfwlp.com Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: Upgrading in the same RELENG without shutdown ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:40:57 -0000 > Hello, > > > I have CVS-UP configured to follow RELENG_5_4 > > I was wondering if there is a way to patch (upgrading from 5.4- > RELEASE-p8 to a higher version) my system without going into the > classic : > > # make -j4 buildworld > # make -j4 buildkernel > # make -j4 installkernel > # shutdown now > > And booting in single user // > > # fsck -p > # mount -u / > # mount -a -t ufs > # swapon -a > > # cd /usr/src > # mergemaster -p > > > > My system is in production and I am not onsite so this is a problem > for me to have to boot in single user mode. > > Is there a way to keep the system in multi-user mode while doing this ? > > And what are the risks if any ? > > > > Sincerly yours. > > > ________________________________________________ > «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ > Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD > bsd @at@ todoo.biz > ________________________________________________ > «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ > > P "Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing > this e-mail" > it can be done, but it is NOT guaranteed safe. i do it, but your might not be the same as mine. my system is a *low* traffic system, and i am the only user. the system is however running apache2, mysql, and some other daemons. again, your mileage may vary, this is what i do: 1) make buildworld, and make buildkernel. 2) make installkernel 3) cd /usr/src, mergemaster -p, make installworld, mergemaster. 4) reboot. hth, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 17:45:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4613416A412 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:45:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from schrodinger.com (thermidore.schrodinger.com [192.156.98.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D741C43D5E for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:45:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from [192.156.98.12] (ithi.schrodinger.com [192.156.98.12]) by schrodinger.com (8.13.4/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k9GHjl1e091603 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:45:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Message-ID: <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:45:55 -0700 From: Simon Gao User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060926) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:45:58 -0000 I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does not matter that much, you can always keep your system up to date if you like. Of cause, you can also choose staying at a certain version. Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. Simon Jim Stapleton wrote: > Well, in my case: > > - No matter what method I use to install packages in Linux (Apt-Get, > Yum, Deb, RPM, and to a much lesser extent, Emerge, and to a *MUCH* > greater extent src tar.gz's), I tend to have a lot more trouble > getting installs to finish than with BSD in ports. > > - The FreeBSD community is much more friendly and helpful than the > Linux community, in my experience. Gentoo's is better than other Linux > communities, but still not quite up to FreeBSD. > > - I notice a lot smaller number of "It's 'X' liscence, therefore it > has to be good", or "It's open source therefore it has to be good" > fanboys in FreeBSD. The users tend to be more of a "It works, so it's > good" type. This really makes the commmunity pleasant. > > - The documentation of FreeBSD is much better in both organization and > detail - while good documentation can be found for Linux, FreeBSD just > takes a lot less searching. > > - I've found a lot of breaks in Linux where I couldn't find anything > short of a system re-install to fix them without a lot more effort in > searching for some obscure piece of documentation. Aside from once > when I blew up my kernel build, I didn't have that problem in BSD. > > - It's less popular than Linux, so it's less commonly known/accounted > for, and it makes you just that much safer from hackers. > > > > Note: that's not to say it doesn't have it's issues, like every other > OS, I could name a few dozen issues I've run into with FreeBSD without > much hassle (mostly related to drivers, UI, and parts of the > installer), but that's a different topic alltogether. > > -Jim > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 18:01:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3089D16A417 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhorne@dfwlp.org) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153EF43D97 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:00:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhorne@dfwlp.org) Received: from webmail.dfwlp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9GI0vU0078573; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:00:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jhorne@dfwlp.org) Received: from 167.246.36.14 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jhorne) by webmail.dfwlp.org with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:00:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <36321.167.246.36.14.1161021657.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> In-Reply-To: <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:00:57 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jonathan Horne" To: "Simon Gao" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on zeus.dfwlp.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:01:22 -0000 > All I was told is that I need to wipe them out and reinstall. > i would recommend that you change the people who you are asking your technical questions to. i personally tend to get really upset when someone tells me one thing, then thru my own research, i find out that they didnt know shit from shinola. *wink* cheers, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 18:01:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAF816A47C for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doc@dcoder.net) Received: from mail0.dcoder.net (ns0.dcoder.net [66.92.160.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737FA43DB1 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:01:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doc@dcoder.net) Received: by mail0.dcoder.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 28B1517067; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:01:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:01:07 -0400 From: david coder To: Jonathan Horne Message-ID: <20061016180107.GB76982@mail0.dcoder.net> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3A36FE52-9F48-45D2-BEF2-D538331CA299@todoo.biz> <28389.167.246.36.14.1161020443.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <28389.167.246.36.14.1161020443.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading in the same RELENG without shutdown ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:01:24 -0000 i save myself some time by removing files from subdirectories of /etc whose contents i never modify, & using the "-i" option to mergemaster the 2nd time. you might (or might not) find the following scripts useful, edited to meet your needs (the 2nd is obviously intended to be run in single-user): # cat buildsys rm -rf /usr/obj && \ cd /usr/src && \ make buildworld && \ make kernel KERNCONF=KEROUAC # cat installsys mount -u / && \ mount -a && \ cd /usr/src && \ mergemaster -p && \ make installworld && \ rm -rf /etc/bluetooth/* && \ rm -rf /etc/defaults/* && \ rm -rf /etc/gnats/* && \ rm -rf /etc/isdn/* && \ rm -rf /etc/mtree/* && \ rm -rf /etc/pam.d/* && \ rm -rf /etc/periodic/* && \ rm -rf /etc/ppp/* && \ rm -rf /etc/rc.d/* && \ rm -rf /etc/security/* && \ rm -rf /etc/skel/* && \ rm -rf /etc/ssl/* && \ mergemaster -i && \ rm -rf /usr/obj/* i guess it's obvious that the 2nd script is designed to be run in single user & that the point of concatenating the commands in each script is to stop the proceedings cold in case there's a failure at any stage. at the very least, i'd reboot after running the 1st script to make sure the kernel works. you might have problems w/ a new system & an old kernel. +++ Jonathan Horne [16/10/06 12:40 -0500]: >> Hello, >> >> >> I have CVS-UP configured to follow RELENG_5_4 >> >> I was wondering if there is a way to patch (upgrading from 5.4- >> RELEASE-p8 to a higher version) my system without going into the >> classic : >> >> # make -j4 buildworld >> # make -j4 buildkernel >> # make -j4 installkernel >> # shutdown now >> >> And booting in single user // >> >> # fsck -p >> # mount -u / >> # mount -a -t ufs >> # swapon -a >> >> # cd /usr/src >> # mergemaster -p >> >> >> >> My system is in production and I am not onsite so this is a problem >> for me to have to boot in single user mode. >> >> Is there a way to keep the system in multi-user mode while doing this ? >> >> And what are the risks if any ? >> >> >> >> Sincerly yours. >> >> >> ________________________________________________ >> ???????????????????????????????????????????????? >> ???????????????????????????????????????????????? >> Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD >> bsd @at@ todoo.biz >> ________________________________________________ >> ???????????????????????????????????????????????? >> ???????????????????????????????????????????????? >> >> P "Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing >> this e-mail" >> > >it can be done, but it is NOT guaranteed safe. i do it, but your might >not be the same as mine. my system is a *low* traffic system, and i am >the only user. the system is however running apache2, mysql, and some >other daemons. > >again, your mileage may vary, this is what i do: > >1) make buildworld, and make buildkernel. >2) make installkernel >3) cd /usr/src, mergemaster -p, make installworld, mergemaster. >4) reboot. > >hth, >jonathan > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- David Coder Network Engineer Emeritus, Verio/NTT Telluride, CO & Washington, DC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 18:02:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8271116A407 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC5E43D93 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:01:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin05-en2 [10.13.10.150]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout15/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9GI1kAb011347; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (a17-214-13-96.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9GI1dpX015013; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:01:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6C94C04A-4CC6-45E0-B489-2AAE27C1BA25@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:01:41 -0700 To: Simon Gao X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:02:01 -0000 On Oct 16, 2006, at 10:45 AM, Simon Gao wrote: > I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people > how to > upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I > need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case > with > Gentoo Linux. It's not the case with FreeBSD either. Read the fine Handbook, or /usr/src/UPDATING... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 18:05:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB64716A403; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from questions@totaldiver.net) Received: from Scorpio.totaldiver.net (fl-209-26-20-205.sta.embarqhsd.net [209.26.20.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD2043D68; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:05:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from questions@totaldiver.net) Received: from WRKSTN210.totaldiver.net ([66.209.36.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by Scorpio.totaldiver.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9GI5ZhP009494; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:05:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from questions@totaldiver.net) Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.0.20061016140214.01938450@totaldiver.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:04:59 -0400 To: Simon Gao , questions@freebsd.org From: Jeff Palmer In-Reply-To: <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:05:36 -0000 At 01:45 PM 10/16/2006, Simon Gao wrote: >I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to >upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I >need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with >Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does not matter that much, >you can always keep your system up to date if you like. Of cause, you >can also choose staying at a certain version. > >Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. Whoever gave you the 'wipe and reinstall' advice for the 5.x to 6.x migration was insane. 4.x to 6.x is a pain, due to major changes in /dev (5.x and later use devfs, 4.x doesn't) but can still be done. but the 5.6 to 6.x migration is fairly straight forward with a buildworld and a couple minor caveats as noticed in UPDATING. Jeff P.S. while 4.x to 5.x is possible, I'd still personally do a wipe/reinstall. 5.x to 6.x, I'd build world. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 18:05:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB64716A403; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from questions@totaldiver.net) Received: from Scorpio.totaldiver.net (fl-209-26-20-205.sta.embarqhsd.net [209.26.20.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD2043D68; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:05:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from questions@totaldiver.net) Received: from WRKSTN210.totaldiver.net ([66.209.36.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by Scorpio.totaldiver.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9GI5ZhP009494; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:05:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from questions@totaldiver.net) Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.0.20061016140214.01938450@totaldiver.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:04:59 -0400 To: Simon Gao , questions@freebsd.org From: Jeff Palmer In-Reply-To: <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:05:36 -0000 At 01:45 PM 10/16/2006, Simon Gao wrote: >I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to >upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I >need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with >Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does not matter that much, >you can always keep your system up to date if you like. Of cause, you >can also choose staying at a certain version. > >Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. Whoever gave you the 'wipe and reinstall' advice for the 5.x to 6.x migration was insane. 4.x to 6.x is a pain, due to major changes in /dev (5.x and later use devfs, 4.x doesn't) but can still be done. but the 5.6 to 6.x migration is fairly straight forward with a buildworld and a couple minor caveats as noticed in UPDATING. Jeff P.S. while 4.x to 5.x is possible, I'd still personally do a wipe/reinstall. 5.x to 6.x, I'd build world. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 18:21:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B3216A4AB for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wittig.robert@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp104.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp104.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E22143DF9 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:19:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wittig.robert@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 97133 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2006 18:19:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=BTdG/FCEXjmi60bwP6GFoXswnm/E48k2l6e9nzdGkEoSdke6rQQGjPsn5epbtA7sJuKM3Iloip68CsNCnhYVH60Sjd7ci25/CBeUwV69W9ZrnoauHGq6VSDRg5pxFdcEZe0n+4rWT+VKpIZBIqVbVeNJkXvMQ34r5Xm7aEFYn3E= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.3?) (wittig.robert@sbcglobal.net@70.142.248.62 with plain) by smtp104.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2006 18:19:49 -0000 Message-ID: <4533CDA6.8010205@sbcglobal.net> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:21:26 -0500 From: Robert C Wittig User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Gao References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> In-Reply-To: <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:21:06 -0000 Simon Gao wrote: > Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. > So??? What's so compelling about that? BSD has a Dever little Clevil... Oops! I mean a Clever little Devil. ...and all that Linux has, is that obviously intoxicated Penguin. Daemon is a gas, whereas Tux is merely gassed. What better reason, for choosing one OS over another? -- -wittig http://www.robertwittig.com/ . http://robertwittig.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 18:22:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509BF16A417 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:22:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52E743D88 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:22:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k9GIMWeO078717; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:22:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k9GIMVTE078716; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:22:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:22:31 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: jan gestre Message-ID: <20061016182231.GB77914@thought.org> References: <20060921222701.D63174@justnosweat.net> <20060921224132.2e3a5c9e.albi@scii.nl> <20061016001032.GA18513@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: Gary Kline , albi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, justin Subject: Re: squirrelmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:22:48 -0000 On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 08:50:31AM +0800, jan gestre wrote: > On 10/16/06, Gary Kline wrote: > > > >On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:41:32PM +0200, albi wrote: > >> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:37:44 +0000 (UTC) > >> justin wrote: > >> > >> > I`ve got a problem with squirrelmail > >> > when i try to reach it through my browser i get the index.php > >> > with the following message: > >> --cut -- > >> > // Are we configured yet? > >> > if( ! file_exists ( 'config/config.php' ) ) { > >> -- cut -- > >> > So my questions is why the squirrelmail interface isnt executeted. > >> > >> did you run ./configure in /usr/local/www/squirrelmail/ ? > >> > >> and do you have in apache's config the following ? > >> > >> DirectoryIndex index.html index.html.var index.php > >> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php > >> AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps > >> > >> > > > > > > I've been saving these instructions for weeks and just installed > > squirrelmail. I tested it with > > > > http://www.thought.org/squirrelmail/ and by pointing at the > > src/configtest.php. I get a 404 return. I have added your mods > > intp my httpd.conf; I have stopped and restarted apache; I have > > run ./configure. Still nothing. Any clues? > > > > gary > > > >you apache build doesn't have that module installed so even if you put it > >there explicitly, you will still see the codes instead of the actual page, > >you have to recompile apache with php support. > I'm using PHP all over the place; which port are you thinking of? -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 18:45:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F58516A4CE for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C7443D93 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:41:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9GIfBa5032631 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:41:11 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.101] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9GIf8NY014447 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:41:10 -0700 Message-ID: <4533D22B.2000405@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:40:43 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <7.0.1.0.0.20061016140214.01938450@totaldiver.net> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20061016140214.01938450@totaldiver.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.266434, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.10.16.111942 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:45:49 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jeff Palmer wrote: > At 01:45 PM 10/16/2006, Simon Gao wrote: >> I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to >> upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I >> need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with >> Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does not matter that much, >> you can always keep your system up to date if you like. Of cause, you >> can also choose staying at a certain version. >> >> Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. > > Whoever gave you the 'wipe and reinstall' advice for the 5.x to 6.x > migration was insane. > > 4.x to 6.x is a pain, due to major changes in /dev (5.x and later use > devfs, 4.x doesn't) but can still be done. > but the 5.6 to 6.x migration is fairly straight forward with a > buildworld and a couple minor caveats as noticed in UPDATING. > > Jeff > > P.S. while 4.x to 5.x is possible, I'd still personally do a > wipe/reinstall. 5.x to 6.x, I'd build world. No kidding. Only if you want to get rid of obsolete/unused files from previous system / ports should you do this. This is more of a time dependency though and not a version dependency, i.e. if I move from from 4.x (used for 1-2 years), I may consider wiping stuff clean and reinstalling from scratch. But if you've used PCs enough you should have known this from experience. This is sort of a good rule of thumb with all OSes to some extent.. My thoughts... Pro-FBSD: 1. Better kernel and userland 'linking' (is 'cooperation' a better term?), due to better overall dev and planning organization. 2. Better documentation; you can find more properly documented manpages and the documentation-for the most part-is centralized on freebsd.org, which helps a lot. Pro-Linux: 1. More bleeding edge hardware support. 2. In general, better software support due to more devs working on Linux than FBSD (or *BSD in general). Another sidecomment: *BSD tends to be better organized in terms of networking and server configs, but in general Linux tends to be better in the desktop arena, depending on what you're trying to accomplish of course. Besides, all good ideas in either camp eventually equilibrates out to the other camp due to proper collaboration and open-source ideology. The main thing that separates the Linux and *BSD group, apart from organization, is the GNU license (more restrictive to devs and for resale of designed product, perhaps, possibly too idealistic in design) vs the BSD license (better for devs and business folks if they come up with an idea and want to market it or maintain their copyright/idea properly with less restrictions in a given respect). But, you should read the BSD and GNU licenses and compare them for yourself to determine where and how they differ. Hopefully I won't get a lot of flak from the list about my comments :). - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFM9Ir6CkrZkzMC68RApBHAJ9q0cJNQo3oBZEsNwR9HI5D2I7AtwCfX33B 0lVGmqBF7/vhPTTqTQapHAU= =xGhZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 18:51:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C330016A412 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:51:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A502E43FD0 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:46:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 16 Oct 2006 14:45:52 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,316,1157342400"; d="scan'208"; a="323406402:sNHT26789434" Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id HHL41837; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-203-219.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.203.219]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 16 Oct 2006 14:45:44 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,316,1157342400"; d="scan'208"; a="294239747:sNHT7657520596" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17715.54038.729303.507021@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:44:38 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20061016140214.01938450@totaldiver.net> References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <7.0.1.0.0.20061016140214.01938450@totaldiver.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090202.4533D2FD.008F,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.113/2006-07-26 Cc: Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:51:46 -0000 Jeff Palmer writes: > Whoever gave you the 'wipe and reinstall' advice for the 5.x to 6.x > migration was insane. "Need" is the wrong word; there are plenty of people who have upgraded across major release boundaries to prove the contrary. Are there reasons to "wipe and reinstall"? Sure. I used to do it all the time, as it cleaned out leftover libraries and config files; it also gave me the chance to tweak partition sizes. To the OP: source updating is possible. Read UPDATING; check the mailing list archives; ask questions if you don't understand what's happening. As always, have a verified backup. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 19:12:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC2D16A416 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:12:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBEB43E78 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:10:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k9GIqLmf078907; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:52:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k9GIqKbm078906; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:52:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:52:20 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20061016185220.GD77914@thought.org> References: <20060921222701.D63174@justnosweat.net> <20060921224132.2e3a5c9e.albi@scii.nl> <20061016001032.GA18513@thought.org> <20061016182231.GB77914@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061016182231.GB77914@thought.org> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: jan gestre , albi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, justin Subject: Re: squirrelmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:12:44 -0000 On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 11:22:31AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 08:50:31AM +0800, jan gestre wrote: > > >you have to recompile apache with php support. > > > > I'm using PHP all over the place; which port are you thinking of? Never mind. Following a modified suggested suggestion from Jonathan Horne, I added an "Alias" to my apache13 and things are beginning to happen. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 19:15:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196DA16A47C for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:15:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4546343D4C for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:15:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Oct 2006 19:15:13 -0000 Received: from vpn-cl-165-11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (EHLO [141.3.165.11]) [141.3.165.11] by mail.gmx.net (mp040) with SMTP; 16 Oct 2006 21:15:13 +0200 X-Authenticated: #5465401 Message-ID: <4533DA97.8060303@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:16:39 +0200 From: "[LoN]Kamikaze" Organization: Lords of Nightmare User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061015) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: kldunload -f has no effect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:15:43 -0000 I need to 'kldunload -f drm' in order to go into suspend to ram with my thinkpad (suspend works fine with dri disabled). Unfortunately, despite the claims of the manpage the '-f' flag does not alter the behaviour of the kldunload tool. How do I get drm unloaded? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 19:29:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531CF16A4B3 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:29:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gordon@visi.com) Received: from cenn.mc.mpls.visi.com (cenn.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5860443D8A for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:28:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gordon@visi.com) Received: from neit.visi.com (neit.visi.com [208.42.75.4]) by cenn.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE408882 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:28:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: by neit.visi.com (Postfix, from userid 15013) id 4422D21B2D; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:28:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:28:13 -0500 From: Gordon Pedersen To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20061016192812.GC3694@visi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Teletronics wlan 200mW card supported under 5.x? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gordon Pedersen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:29:38 -0000 Has anyone got the Teletronics XI-325HP 200mW PRISM 2.5-based PCMCIA card to work under freebsd 5.4, which I currently run? or 6.x? The Teletronics XI-325HP 200mW PRISM 2.5-based PCMCIA card is high on my list of possible cards with external antenna jacks to buy. Older reports say they had to flash firmware back to 1.5.6 on the card to get it working under Freebsd 4.x. Current firmware as sold now appears to be 1.8.4 or higher. Seems like a big jump backwards to take. Thanks. -- Gordon Pedersen gordon@visi.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 19:30:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7021616A415 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vcrobe@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E7D43E47 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:29:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vcrobe@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so2380037pye for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:29:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=o419KXqcaMwwX4IJCs3SP2PYLksmKzqsspvjZE371/3qA46LORnAW1UZxr5He7Wzzm/UZidHTWMm7srG0uDkekb31sWucCFkj9eGFYToR+KWfJACTHcTO33v6OCieldr5mE2WIPfxdewlD4e9Agq38qEZDlPU+yriNbxkNYy7PY= Received: by 10.35.106.18 with SMTP id i18mr13452626pym; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.42.2 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <221c791e0610161229y1250a8eawd9a1910021bda4af@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:29:09 -0500 From: Robe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Choosing Bash and Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:30:49 -0000 Hi, This is the first time I use FreeBSD. I've the version 6.1. During the installation I've choose the Bash as the shell and Gnome. However when I'm in the shell I see that it's not Bash. And when I type *startx* the Graphical environment is not Gnome. Does anybody know how can I use Bash and Gnome? I want it because those are which I've used in Linux ;-) -- Robe. I have only one superstition. I touch all the bases when I hit a home run. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 19:42:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE67E16A47E for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:42:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12EB043E68 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:40:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (dpm.xs4all.nl [213.84.11.61]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9GJeVLC010576 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:40:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:40:54 +0200 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB011141@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Squid diskd msgget error in jail Thread-Index: AcbxWv6SNFFf217ZRvy1fqN1YBBbXA== From: "Johan Hendriks" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Squid diskd msgget error in jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:42:06 -0000 Hello i have installed FreeBSD 6.1 with jail created with ezjail One jail i want to use as a squid proxy I installed squid 2.6.3 and al works fine except for the diskd cache. This is what i get from the jail /var/log/maillog=20 Oct 16 12:26:54 proxyserver (squid): msgget failed Oct 16 12:26:54 proxyserver squid[98292]: Squid Parent: child process = 98317 exit ed due to signal 6 Oct 16 12:26:57 proxyserver squid[98292]: Squid Parent: child process = 98320 star ted Oct 16 12:26:57 proxyserver (squid): msgget failed Oct 16 12:26:57 proxyserver squid[98292]: Squid Parent: child process = 98320 exit ed due to signal 6 Oct 16 12:26:57 proxyserver squid[98292]: Exiting due to repeated, = frequent fail ures If i install squid on the jailhost itself it all works as expaected and = the diskd service starts withou a problem. Do i mis something from the jail. Regards Johan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 20:35:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76C316A47E for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:35:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBAF543E02 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:34:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so801737uge for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:34:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=W0MkxJbvlpdbGSMNXbxoPkfsYvEv0YDKjm/eZGp0KY4pqFpSmD52huiJ3oZmrglu9LbpdRVLbFCGW19r8dzkkBx6xWzxNYdFuRe69dBIf4CxMtpPV2cC43l8UdCb2WFMAA9Pf8wrWs7789ynCWqzb+EJd8wcMivhFZfR4J2hAgo= Received: by 10.78.160.2 with SMTP id i2mr8215895hue; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.118.10 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:34:55 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Gordon Pedersen" In-Reply-To: <20061016192812.GC3694@visi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061016192812.GC3694@visi.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Teletronics wlan 200mW card supported under 5.x? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:35:46 -0000 On 10/16/06, Gordon Pedersen wrote: > Has anyone got the Teletronics XI-325HP 200mW PRISM 2.5-based PCMCIA card > to work under freebsd 5.4, which I currently run? or 6.x? > > The Teletronics XI-325HP 200mW PRISM 2.5-based PCMCIA card is > high on my list of possible cards with external antenna jacks to buy. > > Older reports say they had to flash firmware back to 1.5.6 on > the card to get it working under Freebsd 4.x. Current firmware > as sold now appears to be 1.8.4 or higher. Seems like a big > jump backwards to take. > Thats a rebranded zcom card, should have RP-MMCX antenna connector. It depend what you want to do with the card?, IIRC secondary firmware 1.8.4 / primary 1.1.1 doesn't support hostap mode... IIRC you'll have to reflash it with secondary 1.7.4 ~ 1.4.9 (I forget which is best) to get hostap mode working. I have all the firmware, utilites, and docs if you need them. Secondary firmware 1.7.4 and up supports WPA and 1.3.7 and up supports Prism 3 chipsets. I forget which firmwares supports 802.11d but I know 1.8.4 does. I think I have the secondary firmware changelog up to 1.4.9, primary firmware changelog up to 1.1.0 and a 2003 version of the driver programmers manual. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 20:39:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F188A16A4D2 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:39:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@troback.com) Received: from devil.troback.com (c-195-216-040-156.cust.thalamus.net [195.216.40.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC04743D67 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:38:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@troback.com) Received: from devil.troback.com (localhost.troback.com [127.0.0.1]) by devil.troback.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7192911414; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:37:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:37:54 +0200 From: Anders Troback To: "Joao Barros" Message-ID: <20061016223754.16a13f46@devil.troback.com> In-Reply-To: <70e8236f0610160731v12f644bv6ccbb118fb9a8cf1@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061016151343.2d6a7030@server25.gelita.swe> <70e8236f0610160731v12f644bv6ccbb118fb9a8cf1@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.2 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Nvidia on CURRENT... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:39:30 -0000 On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:31:15 +0100 "Joao Barros" wrote: > On 10/16/06, Anders Troback wrote: > > Hi, > > > > X can't use the nvidia module and kldunload nvidia causes: Fatal > > trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks!!! > > > > > > PS. CURRENT cvsuped 6 hours ago! > > >=20 > Try recompiling the nvidia module. When recompiling a new kernel > version always remind yourself to recompile the nvidia driver aswell > :) >=20 Thanks but I did remember that this time:-) More ideas? --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D How many Microsoft employees does it take to screw in a light bulb? None, they declare darkness a new standard. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Anders Trob=E4ck http://www.troback.com/ - From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 20:40:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E854116A415 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afishionado@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A9243D4C for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:39:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from afishionado@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1604564wxd for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:39:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eAiwHxjnI7DhrTUCab79vdgEtYTdSBjSyqrNAEJfQhQo283DSznkN3MQvW46agk2GsXwugFULiOX6GM/caDhjcyIJ2VSGkfTo5gw5aJiTrrq5LthPMcbfw2Un7fmdqnF0D+LFs8IK6l0T5+xuIWQ/2fboKrqlcDl7ffZTwb36uw= Received: by 10.70.95.19 with SMTP id s19mr12180044wxb; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.112.13 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:38:59 -0700 From: "William Tracy" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4533D22B.2000405@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <7.0.1.0.0.20061016140214.01938450@totaldiver.net> <4533D22B.2000405@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:40:22 -0000 Well, thanks for all the replies. I didn't mean to rub anybody the wrong way, and if I did, I'm sorry. :-P Up until now, I've basically been running FreeBSD more or less like just another Linux distro, and was beginning to wonder if I was really missing out on something by doing that. That, and I thought I'd give the fanboys a chance to praise their pet OS. :-) Overall, it sounds like I was on the right track, though. FreeBSD has its pros and cons, but it's fundamentally just another Unix-like system. Which is a good thing! ;-) For the record, I really, really, like Debian (and now Ubuntu). I understand that there are packages that allow the Debian packaging system to run on top of the FreeBSD kernel, and I'll definitely have try that out sometime. Anyway, FreeBSD is great, and I'll keep playing with it. :-) William From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 20:41:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963B316A407 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msherman77@yahoo.com) Received: from web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com [216.39.53.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C7E7D43D5A for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:41:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from msherman77@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 50690 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Oct 2006 20:41:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=e5+oTedJriBjd/Z6ryTAIZQpSsYRqNv+yIpmtwlcAzE/HQ3MXIAiEvCuEV09UPVcyJSxpFAHk4TMSPZFe71lcFX4/YL1PcW6hvxEqCEM7PHBRzxgqkzODfpTRRlNdH18BhndZxFwK6c8XMX4Z4jjflMeN3JlI695jDMjB9ASSJs= ; Message-ID: <20061016204113.50688.qmail@web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Received: from [74.107.243.52] by web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:41:13 EDT Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:41:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael S To: Robe , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <221c791e0610161229y1250a8eawd9a1910021bda4af@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Choosing Bash and Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:41:50 -0000 Gnome: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html bash: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/shells.html --- Robe wrote: > Hi, > > > This is the first time I use FreeBSD. I've the > version 6.1. During the > installation I've choose the Bash as the shell and > Gnome. However when I'm > in the shell I see that it's not Bash. And when I > type *startx* the > Graphical environment is not Gnome. > > > > Does anybody know how can I use Bash and Gnome? > > > > I want it because those are which I've used in Linux > ;-) > > -- > Robe. > > I have only one superstition. I touch all the bases > when I hit a home run. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 20:51:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4A716A403 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB4043D6A for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:51:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so805152uge for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.201.10 with SMTP id y10mr8279779huf; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18sm1080076hue.2006.10.16.13.51.17; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10848B835; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:51:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss.seibercom.net [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DBBB82B; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:51:33 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom.NET In-Reply-To: <36321.167.246.36.14.1161021657.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> References: <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <36321.167.246.36.14.1161021657.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20061016164749.831C.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.27 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:51:29 -0000 On Monday October 16, 2006 at 02:00:57 (PM) Jonathan Horne wrote: > didnt know shit from shinola. I haven't heard that since I was a kid. Just in case someone does not know where the saying originated from: http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/114000.html -- Gerard "It is not the OS's job to stop you from shooting your foot. If you so choose to do so, then it is OS's job to deliver Mr. Bullet to Mr Foot in the most efficient way it knows." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 20:51:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA32016A412 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:51:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ansarm@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF3243D6D for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:51:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ansarm@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id o37so440654nzf for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:51:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:x-mimeole; b=MTPA/paTRmNiLNbT47Mi1KpZBhxJ+bjlBrhqvQ19LjvH9OuWe2Ui6X8ux7A2UBvCvA03oKdibM1RvvC8yukacv1QFcTXETuIMUtUqeceh1RdGdAwbQvJcAHQLiL43NuM2oLLdC5iNO3UlRoGVy/BjJne28lt/uhPFJXJFerfsAY= Received: by 10.64.208.20 with SMTP id f20mr10783458qbg; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ansarmm2 ( [67.71.40.71]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f13sm487989qba.2006.10.16.13.51.19; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:51:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ansar Mohammed" To: Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:51:16 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c6f164$d4aeb1c0$0405a8c0@northamerica.corp.microsoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcbxZNMLcO6bentoQJC5ndUM8pXy1g== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Network MSN/Chat sniffer for Freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:51:31 -0000 Hello All, does anyone know where we can get a MSN/Chat sniffer for Freebsd? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 20:56:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2211216A412 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:56:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [195.115.46.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC4C43D6E for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:56:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743F62A364 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:56:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.4.3 (20060930) at rmm.fr Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newmail.rmm.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uLfozp9ffhsN for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:56:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.16.1.201] (me.todoo.biz [82.66.93.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4CB2A362 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:56:16 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <20061016180107.GB76982@mail0.dcoder.net> References: <3A36FE52-9F48-45D2-BEF2-D538331CA299@todoo.biz> <28389.167.246.36.14.1161020443.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> <20061016180107.GB76982@mail0.dcoder.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: bsd Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:56:10 +0200 To: Liste FreeBSD X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: Re: Upgrading in the same RELENG without shutdown ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:56:54 -0000 =46rom what I have read so far I guess I'll stick to the 'classic' =20 procedure and boot in single user to do the merging things. A little trip to my Data Center // Thanks. Le 16 oct. 06 =E0 20:01, david coder a =E9crit : > i save myself some time by removing files from subdirectories of /=20 > etc whose > contents i never modify, & using the "-i" option to mergemaster the =20= > 2nd time. > you might (or might not) find the following scripts useful, edited =20 > to meet > your needs (the 2nd is obviously intended to be run in single-user): > > # cat buildsys > rm -rf /usr/obj && \ > cd /usr/src && \ > make buildworld && \ > make kernel KERNCONF=3DKEROUAC > > # cat installsys > mount -u / && \ > mount -a && \ > cd /usr/src && \ > mergemaster -p && \ > make installworld && \ > rm -rf /etc/bluetooth/* && \ > rm -rf /etc/defaults/* && \ > rm -rf /etc/gnats/* && \ > rm -rf /etc/isdn/* && \ > rm -rf /etc/mtree/* && \ > rm -rf /etc/pam.d/* && \ > rm -rf /etc/periodic/* && \ > rm -rf /etc/ppp/* && \ > rm -rf /etc/rc.d/* && \ > rm -rf /etc/security/* && \ > rm -rf /etc/skel/* && \ > rm -rf /etc/ssl/* && \ > mergemaster -i && \ > rm -rf /usr/obj/* > > i guess it's obvious that the 2nd script is designed to be run in =20 > single user > & that the point of concatenating the commands in each script is to =20= > stop the > proceedings cold in case there's a failure at any stage. > > at the very least, i'd reboot after running the 1st script to make =20 > sure the > kernel works. you might have problems w/ a new system & an old =20 > kernel. > > +++ Jonathan Horne [16/10/06 12:40 -0500]: >>> Hello, >>> >>> >>> I have CVS-UP configured to follow RELENG_5_4 >>> >>> I was wondering if there is a way to patch (upgrading from 5.4- >>> RELEASE-p8 to a higher version) my system without going into the >>> classic : >>> >>> # make -j4 buildworld >>> # make -j4 buildkernel >>> # make -j4 installkernel >>> # shutdown now >>> >>> And booting in single user // >>> >>> # fsck -p >>> # mount -u / >>> # mount -a -t ufs >>> # swapon -a >>> >>> # cd /usr/src >>> # mergemaster -p >>> >>> >>> >>> My system is in production and I am not onsite so this is a problem >>> for me to have to boot in single user mode. >>> >>> Is there a way to keep the system in multi-user mode while doing =20 >>> this ? >>> >>> And what are the risks if any ? >>> >>> >>> >>> Sincerly yours. >>> >>> >>> ________________________________________________ >>> ???????????????????????????????????????????????? >>> ???????????????????????????????????????????????? >>> Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD >>> bsd @at@ todoo.biz >>> ________________________________________________ >>> ???????????????????????????????????????????????? >>> ???????????????????????????????????????????????? >>> >>> P "Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing >>> this e-mail" >>> >> >> it can be done, but it is NOT guaranteed safe. i do it, but your =20 >> might >> not be the same as mine. my system is a *low* traffic system, and =20= >> i am >> the only user. the system is however running apache2, mysql, and =20 >> some >> other daemons. >> >> again, your mileage may vary, this is what i do: >> >> 1) make buildworld, and make buildkernel. >> 2) make installkernel >> 3) cd /usr/src, mergemaster -p, make installworld, mergemaster. >> 4) reboot. >> >> hth, >> jonathan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-=20 >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > --=20 > David Coder > Network Engineer Emeritus, Verio/NTT > Telluride, CO & Washington, DC =20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-=20 > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ________________________________________________ =AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?= =BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz ________________________________________________ =AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?= =BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF P "Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing =20 this e-mail" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 21:10:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1E116A416 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EECE43D49 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:10:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9GL80YN040082; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:08:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9GL7rMd040081; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:07:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:07:53 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Simon Gao Message-ID: <20061016210752.GA40064@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:10:31 -0000 On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 10:45:55AM -0700, Simon Gao wrote: > I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to > upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I > need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with > Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does not matter that much, > you can always keep your system up to date if you like. Of cause, you > can also choose staying at a certain version. You don't have to do a fresh install. Just follow the upgrade instructions in the handbook and it will probably work. But a clean install might be good. I think there may be some file system changes that you won't get without a clean install because the file systems would be already built so the new version would use the existing form, but I don't remember if that is between 4.x and 5.x or between 5.x and 6.x. Anyway, the original question wasn't why you don't like FreeBSD, it was why people do like FreeBSD. ////jerry > > Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. > > Simon > > > > Jim Stapleton wrote: > > Well, in my case: > > > > - No matter what method I use to install packages in Linux (Apt-Get, > > Yum, Deb, RPM, and to a much lesser extent, Emerge, and to a *MUCH* > > greater extent src tar.gz's), I tend to have a lot more trouble > > getting installs to finish than with BSD in ports. > > > > - The FreeBSD community is much more friendly and helpful than the > > Linux community, in my experience. Gentoo's is better than other Linux > > communities, but still not quite up to FreeBSD. > > > > - I notice a lot smaller number of "It's 'X' liscence, therefore it > > has to be good", or "It's open source therefore it has to be good" > > fanboys in FreeBSD. The users tend to be more of a "It works, so it's > > good" type. This really makes the commmunity pleasant. > > > > - The documentation of FreeBSD is much better in both organization and > > detail - while good documentation can be found for Linux, FreeBSD just > > takes a lot less searching. > > > > - I've found a lot of breaks in Linux where I couldn't find anything > > short of a system re-install to fix them without a lot more effort in > > searching for some obscure piece of documentation. Aside from once > > when I blew up my kernel build, I didn't have that problem in BSD. > > > > - It's less popular than Linux, so it's less commonly known/accounted > > for, and it makes you just that much safer from hackers. > > > > > > > > Note: that's not to say it doesn't have it's issues, like every other > > OS, I could name a few dozen issues I've run into with FreeBSD without > > much hassle (mostly related to drivers, UI, and parts of the > > installer), but that's a different topic alltogether. > > > > -Jim > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 21:23:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A4F16A47E for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dprobd02.vailsys.com (dprobd02.vailsys.com [63.149.73.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D8043D46 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:22:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dfsfbd06.vail (dfsfbd06.vail [192.168.129.190]) by dprobd02.vailsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7190A8A5C7E for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:22:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dfwdamian.vail [192.168.129.233]) by dfsfbd06.vail (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2F3323E8A for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:22:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dwiest@localhost.vail [127.0.0.1]) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9GLLQVJ028723 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:21:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dwiest@localhost) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9GLLQFF005745 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:21:26 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dfwdamian.vail: dwiest set sender to dwiest@vailsys.com using -f Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:21:26 -0500 From: Damian Wiest To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061016212126.GA1312@dfwdamian.vail> References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <7.0.1.0.0.20061016140214.01938450@totaldiver.net> <4533D22B.2000405@u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:23:05 -0000 On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 01:38:59PM -0700, William Tracy wrote: > Well, thanks for all the replies. I didn't mean to rub anybody the > wrong way, and if I did, I'm sorry. :-P > > Up until now, I've basically been running FreeBSD more or less like > just another Linux distro, and was beginning to wonder if I was really > missing out on something by doing that. That, and I thought I'd give > the fanboys a chance to praise their pet OS. :-) > > Overall, it sounds like I was on the right track, though. FreeBSD has > its pros and cons, but it's fundamentally just another Unix-like > system. Which is a good thing! ;-) It's not "just another Unix-like system", it _is_ a Unix system. > For the record, I really, really, like Debian (and now Ubuntu). I > understand that there are packages that allow the Debian packaging > system to run on top of the FreeBSD kernel, and I'll definitely have > try that out sometime. > > Anyway, FreeBSD is great, and I'll keep playing with it. :-) > > William -Damian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 21:23:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C44516A412 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:23:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gordon@visi.com) Received: from cenn.mc.mpls.visi.com (cenn.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D798643D81 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:23:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gordon@visi.com) Received: from neit.visi.com (neit.visi.com [208.42.75.4]) by cenn.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2318E8680; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:23:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: by neit.visi.com (Postfix, from userid 15013) id E423B21B2D; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:23:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:23:37 -0500 From: Gordon Pedersen To: Nikolas Britton Message-ID: <20061016212337.GA4167@visi.com> References: <20061016192812.GC3694@visi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Teletronics wlan 200mW card supported under 5.x? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gordon Pedersen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:23:39 -0000 On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 03:34:55PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 10/16/06, Gordon Pedersen wrote: > >Has anyone got the Teletronics XI-325HP 200mW PRISM 2.5-based PCMCIA card > >to work under freebsd 5.4, which I currently run? or 6.x? > > > >Older reports say they had to flash firmware back to 1.5.6 on > >the card to get it working under Freebsd 4.x. Current firmware > >as sold now appears to be 1.8.4 or higher. Seems like a big > >jump backwards to take. > > > > Thats a rebranded zcom card, should have RP-MMCX antenna connector. It Yes, has RP-MMCX exposed after you remove the internal antenna piece, according to my info. > depend what you want to do with the card?, IIRC secondary firmware I want to use it in laptop as client, not as AP. I like it due to good sensitivity vs cost. > ... Secondary firmware 1.7.4 and up supports WPA and Would want WPA, wonder if 1.7.4 will work under freebsd 6.x? > ... forget which firmwares > supports 802.11d but I know 1.8.4 does. I think I have the secondary So I wonder where 802.11d is needed? For instance, anywhere in Europe or Latin America or China? > -- Gordon Pedersen gordon@visi.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 21:41:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AE516A47B for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BA843D97 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:41:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so815172uge for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:41:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OlaIT5noH2QuFRDAjoUH9t3OGag/J+ok+qlX9UuAHW6Q2YUJLJ/Ymwy9EFxnh3VgpcT8XA3Ihz3GQa0S1m0hPGIB2oSsvzr9J4cKSe7/tub6FeilPmJbYXvsy4Kp24XbrNaFp9V/ZGC4U9XJG71xgIq260yE/c9n479vsKq2udw= Received: by 10.67.21.11 with SMTP id y11mr8833556ugi; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.86.18 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20610161441h304ccfc4haa6a20f72a08e018@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:41:31 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:41:33 -0000 > I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to > upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I > need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with > Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does not matter that much, > you can always keep your system up to date if you like. Of cause, you > can also choose staying at a certain version. I'm gonna join the "whoever said this was on crack" club. Going between major versions can be a challange due to mergebastard and the various config file change, but Gentoo's setup is really no different in that respect. However, when you want to compile the Kernel, the FreeBSD system is much mroe useful than that of Gentoo. I failed my first kernel build on FreeBSD (custom kernel config) before it booted properly, and have since done several more without issue. With Gentoo, after about half a dozen attempts at optimizing my kernel for my notebook, I gave up and used Genkernel, which was not as efficient, but at least worked. > Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. Spend an extra 5 minutes researching your hardware before buying, more often than not, this'll save you the issues. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 22:01:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5837216A47B; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:01:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corwin@aeternal.net) Received: from amber.aeternal.net (amber.aeternal.net [212.232.17.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D02043DAC; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:01:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from corwin@aeternal.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36061B984; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:01:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at aeternal.net Received: from amber.aeternal.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (amber.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BC-FePAPtdPn; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:01:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (chello089173027168.chello.sk [89.173.27.168]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391EAB9B0; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:01:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <45340119.4060008@aeternal.net> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:00:57 +0200 From: Martin Hudec User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vladimir Terziev References: <20060711162744.A22592@malcolm.berkeley.edu> <452C09B6.4030009@pobox.sk> <20061010220934.GA1484@dfwdamian.vail> <1160524816.70546.287.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> <4531FFCD.8040607@aeternal.net> <1161006945.52932.293.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> <20061016171841.d569ea5e.vlady@gbservices.biz> <1161013656.52932.301.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> <4533AA65.9010708@aeternal.net> <20061016185245.3421bf44.vlady@gbservices.biz> In-Reply-To: <20061016185245.3421bf44.vlady@gbservices.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-database@freebsd.org, shildreth@allantgroup.com, Damian Wiest , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: corwin@aeternal.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:01:20 -0000 Hello Vladimir, Vladimir Terziev wrote: > I'll be very thankful if you provide working instructions how to intermix FreeBSD and Linux libraries. > Thanks in advance! I sense bit of irony here, but I hope I just have wrong feeling :). Mixing BSD and Linux libs? Well - what do you say on using native Firefox with linux flash plugin? Works too. I will try to do it, and let's hope I'll be able to get oracle connection to test simple perl script as without it I am bit lost (I used only client stuff, not full oracle database). Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 22:32:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E305D16A415 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:32:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gtsy@mail.ru) Received: from mx6.mail.ru (mx6.mail.ru [194.67.23.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898A743D45 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:32:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gtsy@mail.ru) Received: from [85.30.193.96] (port=41952 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by mx6.mail.ru with esmtp id 1GZb0X-0004Or-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:32:29 +0400 From: "Stroganov A. V." To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:32:38 +0400 Message-Id: <1161037958.21114.4.camel@savs.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: openoffice for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gtsy@mail.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:32:31 -0000 Hello I've FreeBSD 6.2 prerelease for amd64. When i start OOo, which i installed using package from Good-Day, these messages are printed: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libstdc++.so.6" not found, required by "javaldx" /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libstdc++.so.6" not found, required by "pagein" /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libstdc++.so.6" not found, required by "soffice.bin" Could you help? Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 22:58:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8361516A40F for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from merke.itea.ntnu.no (merke.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCE743D58 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:58:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id F039E13CD76 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:57:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:57:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 11528 invoked by uid 88); 17 Oct 2006 00:57:59 +0200 Received: from 10.84-48-62.nextgentel.com (HELO [10.0.0.8]) (84.48.62.10) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:57:58 +0200 Message-ID: <45340E01.5080709@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:56:01 +0200 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=9198BB40; url=mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig72AF6A07404AB77BD3711478" X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. Cc: Subject: python-mode in emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:58:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig72AF6A07404AB77BD3711478 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Emacs doesn't seem to load files in /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp installed by ports. E.g python-mode installs files in this directory, but python-mode is not available in emacs afterwards. I have to manually tell emacs to look in these files. Are there any way to get emacs to automatically read files in this directory? Am I missing something? Shouldn't the ports system by default be setup in a way that this would work? Svein Halvor --------------enig72AF6A07404AB77BD3711478 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc to get my PGP-key iD8DBQFFNA4ChQg3vZGYu0ARAv4IAJ9SDYDHBJY1BCtddVsNtOIjMWViVwCeKvKI IPeWn/z821cUNYnS7iY8IhY= =YrNU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig72AF6A07404AB77BD3711478-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 23:13:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205D216A407 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 285A843D55 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:13:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 63987 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Oct 2006 23:13:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GhTGtQevQboDAuc8l77gKC22U9tiAmTpxLcN08+CcbENqx+j4r4JjWoqC+fA8zv8DQDhOIOBfWnSs/JdYGIPHOCUYNeHMQnxjopZXQST1m2YBuwaIoif84zH19g+cZc52huxOzueRPPDOF5LyJFh8WISldECZpDw7s+ZKNPlUZU= ; Message-ID: <20061016231313.63985.qmail@web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.34.182.15] by web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:13:13 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:13:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Danial Thom To: Mark Linimon , Michael Butler In-Reply-To: <20061016032534.GB6398@soaustin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Stable , performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:13:15 -0000 --- Mark Linimon wrote: > On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 02:01:08PM -0400, > Michael Butler wrote: > > For everyone's benefit then, please feel free > to submit your patches > > along with your technical analysis. > > I think his best bet is a fork, instead. Then > he can tell all the people > that volunteer to work on _his_ project exactly > what to do, and see how > far he gets with that approach. > > As an extra-special bonus, since it's the BSD > license, he can start with > whatever version of FreeBSD he finds most meets > his needs. > > Even better, with his own project, he can then > redirect all his postings > there and leave the rest of us in peace. > > Until then, I think I'll watch out for any > flying monkeys. I consider > their existance equally probable. > > mcl Why do I need to start a project? Matt Dillon is already doing it. One thing that Matt has proved is that IQ isn't cumulative. Because hes doing on his own what an entire team of FreeBSD "engineers" can't do. But hey, you're not getting paid, so I guess we shouldn't expect anything good. Bravo for trying guys. We appreciate your wasted efforts. I'm not nearly as concerned about the project at this point. Dfly will be usable before freebsd, and at least we know there's someone that knows what they're doing over there. What concerns me is the lying to all of the small businessman out there. People wasting their money on hardware that freebsd can't utilize. And you clowns telling them how great it is. Its just plain dishonest. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 23:18:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4780B16A47C for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from cprobd02.vailsys.com (cprobd02.vailsys.com [63.210.102.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD26A43D45 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:18:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dfsfbd06.vail (dfsfbd06.vail [192.168.129.190]) by cprobd02.vailsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255F5CE4FB for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:18:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dfwdamian.vail [192.168.129.233]) by dfsfbd06.vail (Postfix) with ESMTP id E755E323E8F for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:18:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dwiest@localhost.vail [127.0.0.1]) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9GNGGnp006329 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:16:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dwiest@localhost) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9GNGGfC009038 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:16:16 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dfwdamian.vail: dwiest set sender to dwiest@vailsys.com using -f Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:16:16 -0500 From: Damian Wiest To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061016231616.GC1312@dfwdamian.vail> References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <80f4f2b20610161441h304ccfc4haa6a20f72a08e018@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20610161441h304ccfc4haa6a20f72a08e018@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:18:55 -0000 On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 05:41:31PM -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote: > >I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to > >upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I > >need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with > >Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does not matter that much, > >you can always keep your system up to date if you like. Of cause, you > >can also choose staying at a certain version. > > I'm gonna join the "whoever said this was on crack" club. Going > between major versions can be a challange due to mergebastard and the > various config file change, but Gentoo's setup is really no different > in that respect. > > However, when you want to compile the Kernel, the FreeBSD system is > much mroe useful than that of Gentoo. I failed my first kernel build > on FreeBSD (custom kernel config) before it booted properly, and have > since done several more without issue. > > With Gentoo, after about half a dozen attempts at optimizing my kernel > for my notebook, I gave up and used Genkernel, which was not as > efficient, but at least worked. > > > >Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. > > Spend an extra 5 minutes researching your hardware before buying, more > often than not, this'll save you the issues. I don't mean to bring the conversation from misc@openbsd over here, but you should understand why Linux supports more devices as it's important if you truly want to support open source principles. Basically, the Linux distributions are okay with using and redistributing binary drivers supplied by vendors. Rather than fighting for documentation (some vendors refuse to tell people how to use what they just paid for), they just roll over and run the closed source binary; possibly also redistributing them illegally. While this may allow you to use a particular piece of hardware in the short-term, in the long-term it's counterproductive since you're now dependent on the vendor supporting your device. What happens if your O.S. is too small for the vendor to worry about? What happens if the vendor goes out of business? What happens if the vendor drops support? If you use binary blobs, you're fscked. Don't do it. Instead, support vendors that support open source software developers. -Damian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 23:19:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D56C16A4C9 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:19:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966DD43D4C for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:19:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B40DE35D; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:13:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:19:47 -0600 From: cpghost To: Svein Halvor Halvorsen Message-ID: <20061016231947.GA25692@epia2.farid-hajji.net> References: <45340E01.5080709@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45340E01.5080709@lvor.halvorsen.cc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: python-mode in emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:19:06 -0000 On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 12:56:01AM +0200, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > Emacs doesn't seem to load files in /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp > installed by ports. E.g python-mode installs files in this directory, > but python-mode is not available in emacs afterwards. I have to manually > tell emacs to look in these files. Well, it doesn't cause any harm to add to your ~/.emacs ;; Add python-mode (autoload 'python-mode "python-mode" "Python editing mode." t) (setq auto-mode-alist (cons '("\\.py$" . python-mode) auto-mode-alist)) (add-hook 'python-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock) > Are there any way to get emacs to automatically read files in this > directory? Am I missing something? Shouldn't the ports system by default > be setup in a way that this would work? I don't know. But having Emacs auto-load every mode from there doesn't seem a good idea. And the port can't do that either, since it's a per-user decision. > Svein Halvor Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 23:22:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB98F16A597 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0998E43DB8 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:22:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.139] (helo=anti-virus01-10) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GZbmP-0000la-DR; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:21:57 +0100 Received: from [82.41.32.39] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GZbmO-00073o-SC; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:21:56 +0100 Message-ID: <45341414.5010704@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:21:56 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Svein Halvor Halvorsen References: <45340E01.5080709@lvor.halvorsen.cc> In-Reply-To: <45340E01.5080709@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: python-mode in emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:22:30 -0000 Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: >Emacs doesn't seem to load files in /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp >installed by ports. E.g python-mode installs files in this directory, >but python-mode is not available in emacs afterwards. I have to manually >tell emacs to look in these files. > >Are there any way to get emacs to automatically read files in this >directory? Am I missing something? Shouldn't the ports system by default >be setup in a way that this would work? > My emacs compiled out of ports does look in that directory by default. In emacs do "ESC-x describe-variable load-path" which tells you where emacs is looking. Mine is ("/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/site-lisp" "/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp" "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/leim" "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp" "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/toolbar" "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/textmodes" "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/progmodes" "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/play" "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/obsolete" "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/net" "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/mail" "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/language" "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/international" "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/gnus" "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/eshell" "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/emulation" "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/emacs-lisp" "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/calendar") and as you can see second entry is "/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp" Assuming it is missing for you, then you could add something like this to your .emacs (set-variable 'load-path (append '("/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp") load-path)) but that sticks it at the end, so anything there won't override defaults, which is not so good. Make sure you environment does not set EMACSLOADPATH which would override compile-time defaults. hth, --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 23:38:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0371316A47C for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:38:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s7.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s7.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B974F43D4C for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:38:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.175.33]) by bay0-omc1-s7.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:38:09 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:38:09 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.175.200 by by104fd.bay104.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:38:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.39.178.212] X-Originating-Email: [dead_line@hotmail.com] X-Sender: dead_line@hotmail.com From: "Marwan Sultan" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:38:07 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2006 23:38:09.0306 (UTC) FILETIME=[230EF7A0:01C6F17C] Subject: datalink VPN ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:38:10 -0000 Hello Gurus, After reading the handbook part http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ipsec.html I have two questions please, I have a dynamic IP in both, my main office and one of the branches How i'm going to tell vpn configuration, tunnel gif0 devices that its a dynamic IP and should look for it everytime the ip changes ? and if i should use of of any dynamic dns services, how would the configuration take the hostname not the IPs? is it possible? Also our internet provider provides a datalink connection between the office and one of the branches without internet (just datalink), (and using two cisco routers only) any hint for freebsd vpn with no internet? maybe the datalink ? 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Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 23:45:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A31D16A415 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:45:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Richard.Doel-Mackaway@tafensw.edu.au) Received: from hplmx1.det.nsw.edu.au (hplmx1.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.41.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFA943D5E for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:44:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Richard.Doel-Mackaway@tafensw.edu.au) Received: from itfsmtp1.central.det.win (externalmail.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.8.159]) by hplmx1.det.nsw.edu.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9GNfFDl014604 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:41:16 +1000 Received: from itfexhub6.central.det.win (Not Verified[153.107.9.33]) by itfsmtp1.central.det.win with NetIQ MailMarshal id ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:44:52 +1000 Received: from otfexchange1.western_sydney.det.win ([172.24.105.102]) by itfexhub6.central.det.win with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:44:52 +1000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:44:52 +1000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Message-ID: <03426FC7F879734CA8026B6814131E0505DBBD@otfexchange1.western_sydney.det.win> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Redistribution of FreeBSD Thread-Index: AcbxfRMyptzMkb7XSgeK4x3R0dGing== From: "Doel-Mackaway, Richard" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2006 23:44:52.0408 (UTC) FILETIME=[13537380:01C6F17D] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Redistribution of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:45:00 -0000 I am currently developing course material for students relating to server installations. 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If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 23:47:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D5F16A47E for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:47:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elessar@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F28E43D66 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:47:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elessar@bsdforen.de) Received: from loki.starkstrom.lan (p549CFD47.dip.t-dialin.net [84.156.253.71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF29424105 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:47:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:47:25 +0200 From: Joerg Pernfuss To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061017014725.6d48e8d1@loki.starkstrom.lan> In-Reply-To: References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <7.0.1.0.0.20061016140214.01938450@totaldiver.net> <4533D22B.2000405@u.washington.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.2.3 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_9j8ZuVNI74OT9QdVbfsMhaS; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:47:51 -0000 --Sig_9j8ZuVNI74OT9QdVbfsMhaS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:38:59 -0700 "William Tracy" wrote: > For the record, I really, really, like Debian (and now Ubuntu). I > understand that there are packages that allow the Debian packaging > system to run on top of the FreeBSD kernel, and I'll definitely have > try that out sometime. >=20 > Anyway, FreeBSD is great, and I'll keep playing with it. :-) Sounds like you think of that Debian GNU/kFreeBSD thing. While it may be a nice porting effort for the Debian team, and surely fits the Linux development model to take bit (a) from here, bit (b) from there, (c) from somewhere else, throw everything into autoconf and hope it works - this totally kills the entire point about using FreeBSD. I like the FreeBSD kernel. I really do. But by itself, it is nothing I either dream of or start drooling when someone mentions it. I think somewhere I read of "GNU userland with the known for its stability FreeBSD kernel" (can't remember exactly where). narf. NARF! The strong point of FreeBSD is that the entire OS is in one repo and is developed together. And that is were a lot of this stability comes from. That is why it works like it does. Ripping out the kernel and glueing it ontop of something else... no. Other things the FreeBSD kernel offers, like netgraph for example, to the best of my knowledge, they lack the userland tools to use that stuff to its full extent. Joerg =09 --=20 | /"\ ASCII ribbon | GnuPG Key ID | e86d b753 3deb e749 6c3a | | \ / campaign against | 0xbbcaad24 | 5706 1f7d 6cfd bbca ad24 | | X HTML in email | .the next sentence is true. | | / \ and news | .the previous sentence was a lie. | --Sig_9j8ZuVNI74OT9QdVbfsMhaS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFNBoNH31s/bvKrSQRAoQwAJ9477quRzqDayc+TgGdEgpH2F2BWgCfY2t0 zBIu+zadfj9S0oPUButLVJY= =G71+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_9j8ZuVNI74OT9QdVbfsMhaS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 00:04:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CDF16A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.192.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F78543D5D for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:04:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from gimpy (c-24-118-173-219.hsd1.mn.comcast.net[24.118.173.219]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20061017000425m14003rg4re>; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:04:25 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:04:16 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <03426FC7F879734CA8026B6814131E0505DBBD@otfexchange1.western_sydney.det.win> In-Reply-To: <03426FC7F879734CA8026B6814131E0505DBBD@otfexchange1.western_sydney.det.win> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610161904.16365.josh@tcbug.org> Cc: "Doel-Mackaway, Richard" Subject: Re: Redistribution of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:04:27 -0000 On Monday 16 October 2006 18:44, Doel-Mackaway, Richard wrote: > I am currently developing course material for students relating to > server installations. Does the FreeBSD license allow me to download > FreeBSD and redistribute that download to students? > Yes. You can even charge them for it if you want. :) About the only thing you can't do is claim your wrote it. ;) -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 00:06:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B93616A47E for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:06:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F8243D4C for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:06:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9H06mrl007120 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:06:48 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [128.208.5.99] (nilakantha.cs.washington.edu [128.208.5.99]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9H06mU1031046 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:06:48 -0700 Message-ID: <45341E87.4080300@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:06:31 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <80f4f2b20610161441h304ccfc4haa6a20f72a08e018@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20610161441h304ccfc4haa6a20f72a08e018@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.266434, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.10.16.163442 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:06:49 -0000 Jim Stapleton wrote: >> I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to >> upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I >> need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with >> Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does not matter that much, >> you can always keep your system up to date if you like. Of cause, you >> can also choose staying at a certain version. > > I'm gonna join the "whoever said this was on crack" club. Going > between major versions can be a challange due to mergebastard and the > various config file change, but Gentoo's setup is really no different > in that respect. > > However, when you want to compile the Kernel, the FreeBSD system is > much mroe useful than that of Gentoo. I failed my first kernel build > on FreeBSD (custom kernel config) before it booted properly, and have > since done several more without issue. > > With Gentoo, after about half a dozen attempts at optimizing my kernel > for my notebook, I gave up and used Genkernel, which was not as > efficient, but at least worked. No offense to those who swear by it (and I know this is a bit off-topic), but genkernel is shit. It's kernel compiling for people who are afraid of forgetting make commands.. -Garrett > >> Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. > > Spend an extra 5 minutes researching your hardware before buying, more > often than not, this'll save you the issues. True. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 00:22:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC27516A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:22:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from signal.itea.ntnu.no (signal.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.190.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A0A43D69 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:22:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by signal.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6935433B06 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:22:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by signal.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:22:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 12537 invoked by uid 88); 17 Oct 2006 02:22:21 +0200 Received: from 10.84-48-62.nextgentel.com (HELO [10.0.0.8]) (84.48.62.10) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:22:20 +0200 Message-ID: <453421C5.2020801@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:20:21 +0200 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cpghost References: <45340E01.5080709@lvor.halvorsen.cc> <20061016231947.GA25692@epia2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20061016231947.GA25692@epia2.farid-hajji.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=9198BB40; url=mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF038A11361331C06378DA7F7" X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: python-mode in emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:22:33 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF038A11361331C06378DA7F7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cpghost wrote: > Well, it doesn't cause any harm to add to your ~/.emacs >=20 > ;; Add python-mode > (autoload 'python-mode "python-mode" "Python editing mode." t) > (setq auto-mode-alist > (cons '("\\.py$" . python-mode) auto-mode-alist)) > (add-hook 'python-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock) >=20 >> Are there any way to get emacs to automatically read files in this >> directory? Am I missing something? Shouldn't the ports system by defau= lt >> be setup in a way that this would work? >=20 > I don't know. But having Emacs auto-load every mode from there > doesn't seem a good idea. And the port can't do that either, since > it's a per-user decision. I wasn't suggesting emacs autoload every mode, but rather that emacs simply read the files, and offer me the choice of using modes defines in such files. E.g. do the same as $emacs -l /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/python-mode.el If I start emacs by just typing "emacs", and then use "esc-x" python-mode is not an option. However, If I use the -l option, python-mode is not automatically loaded, but emacs will then offer me the option of loading it later. Your suggested additions to my .emacs file, seems to work, though. Svein Halvor --------------enigF038A11361331C06378DA7F7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc to get my PGP-key iD8DBQFFNCHIhQg3vZGYu0ARAt2DAKCik+TVWIi1gC3hqAEZoHokwsv4bwCgjcJP IzLuF3WI8So4Mgi/Nsqmz9I= =4Gj7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF038A11361331C06378DA7F7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 00:24:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711FE16A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:24:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from fri.itea.ntnu.no (fri.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF31343D5A for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:24:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fri.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B9784D4 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:24:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by fri.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:24:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 12556 invoked by uid 88); 17 Oct 2006 02:24:21 +0200 Received: from 10.84-48-62.nextgentel.com (HELO [10.0.0.8]) (84.48.62.10) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:24:20 +0200 Message-ID: <4534223F.8050503@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:22:23 +0200 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Zbyslaw References: <45340E01.5080709@lvor.halvorsen.cc> <45341414.5010704@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <45341414.5010704@dial.pipex.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=9198BB40; url=mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFBAD169BB832736736CDA1B3" X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: python-mode in emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:24:24 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFBAD169BB832736736CDA1B3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > In emacs do "ESC-x describe-variable load-path" which tells you where > emacs is looking. /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp shows up! > Make sure you environment does not set EMACSLOADPATH which would > override compile-time defaults. This is not set. Svein Halvor --------------enigFBAD169BB832736736CDA1B3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc to get my PGP-key iD8DBQFFNCI/hQg3vZGYu0ARAgupAJ4t+w/cRHRMtMhHgKUBkCVnFlFhDwCfQerT WqaopXgJ9Y0C2nl0TDSIVvs= =ciYW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFBAD169BB832736736CDA1B3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 00:44:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE8316A40F for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdr@pelennor.net) Received: from gandalf.pelennor.net (user-12l2o04.cable.mindspring.com [69.81.96.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD3443D5A for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:44:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mdr@pelennor.net) Received: by gandalf.pelennor.net (Butterbur, from userid 1000) id CFA79572; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:44:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:44:01 -0500 From: Matthew Rench To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061017004401.GA430@gandalf.pelennor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: bittorrent consuming 100% cpu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:44:11 -0000 Hello, Due to the recent security advisor, I upgraded my python port. Foolishly, I managed to upgrade from version 2.4 to 2.5, which forced me to also upgrade my bittorrent port (from version 3.x to 4.20.2_1,1). Unfortunately, I now find that the bittorrent console app (/usr/local/bin/bittorrent-console) now consumes 100% of my CPU, according to top. I am quite sure that even 5-10 instances of the previous version did not together use this much CPU. So, I ktrace'd a running copy of bittorrent, and found the following, repeated more or less continually: 493 python 1161045605.243985 CALL poll(0x8138000,0x5,0xe) 493 python 1161045605.272699 RET poll 0 493 python 1161045605.272750 CALL gettimeofday(0x281dd788,0) 493 python 1161045605.272783 RET gettimeofday 0 493 python 1161045605.273029 CALL gettimeofday(0xbfbfec94,0) 493 python 1161045605.273097 RET gettimeofday 0 493 python 1161045605.273865 CALL gettimeofday(0xbfbfdf34,0) 493 python 1161045605.273955 RET gettimeofday 0 493 python 1161045605.274837 CALL gettimeofday(0xbfbfe014,0) 493 python 1161045605.274920 RET gettimeofday 0 493 python 1161045605.275304 CALL gettimeofday(0xbfbfdd14,0) 493 python 1161045605.275375 RET gettimeofday 0 493 python 1161045605.276452 CALL gettimeofday(0xbfbfec94,0) 493 python 1161045605.276543 RET gettimeofday 0 493 python 1161045605.276758 CALL poll(0x87ede20,0x3,0) 493 python 1161045605.276845 RET poll 0 493 python 1161045605.276909 CALL poll(0x8138000,0x4,0) 493 python 1161045605.276956 RET poll 0 493 python 1161045605.276998 CALL poll(0x8138000,0x5,0x14) 493 python 1161045605.302720 RET poll 0 Since I don't know much about python, I'm at a loss to explain this. Has anyone else had similar issues with newer versions of bittorrent? Is there a different client I should be using? mdr From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 01:02:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A9D16A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:02:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andersgo@alge.anart.no) Received: from alge.anart.no (alge.anart.no [195.159.18.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048BA43D45 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:02:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andersgo@alge.anart.no) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (andersgo@alge.anart.no [195.159.18.67]) by alge.anart.no (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k9H11uQk013213 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:01:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <45342B88.4020904@alge.anart.no> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:02:00 +0200 From: Anders Gulden Olstad User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061016) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:02:02 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 William Tracy wrote: > So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD > can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back. I like the separation of the complete OS and third part software in Ports Collection. I love the ability to upgrade from one major release to another using source upgrade - without doing a complete reinstall, as with the Linux distros I've used. I went straight from 5.4-> 6.1 without any hassle. The EOL schedule for Fedora is almost killing me, and every new release means a complete reinstall - in practice. I boot FreeBSD far more often than Linux these days. What I still lack is getting my Bluetooth and GPRS Cellphone dial-up link running...and VMWare. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Grunbacher Altweizen Dunkel Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFNCuBMVyOPWVstbURAjWiAJ9CDp3WNGSWFx9niATeZqS6pMXi1ACgisLw 65BUC1BOi0RoHGY6XEEg0tA= =eQ/H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 01:10:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4119B16A40F for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:10:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from ns.museum.rain.com (gw-ipinc.museum.rain.com [65.75.192.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EC943D69 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:10:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from ns.museum.rain.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.museum.rain.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9H1AsKZ010481 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:10:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by ns.museum.rain.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9H1ArhO010480 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:10:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) X-Authentication-Warning: ns.museum.rain.com: james set sender to list@museum.rain.com using -f Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:10:53 -0700 From: James Long To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061017011053.GA9364@ns.museum.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-Greylist: Sender is SPF-compliant, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (ns.museum.rain.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: portaudit thinks a vulnerability just disappeared X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:10:56 -0000 I have a 4.11-RELEASE system. Prior to doing some minor portupdates, I had this portaudit report: Checking for packages with security vulnerabilities: Affected package: php4-4.4.1_3 Type of problem: php -- open_basedir Race Condition Vulnerability. Reference: Affected package: php4-4.4.1_3 Type of problem: php -- multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: Affected package: ruby-1.8.4_3,1 Type of problem: ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: Affected package: apache+mod_ssl-1.3.34+2.8.25_2 Type of problem: apache -- mod_rewrite buffer overflow vulnerability. Reference: Affected package: mutt-1.4.2.1_2 Type of problem: mutt -- Remote Buffer Overflow Vulnerability. Reference: 5 problem(s) in your installed packages found. I cvsup'ped my ports tree and portupgraded ruby, mutt and portaudit, but not any of their dependencies (since version number changes were minor). portaudit -aF now thinks: www : 17:59:17 /root# portaudit -aF auditfile.tbz 100% of 38 kB 138 kBps New database installed. Affected package: php4-4.4.1_3 Type of problem: php -- open_basedir Race Condition Vulnerability. Reference: Affected package: php4-4.4.1_3 Type of problem: php -- multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: 2 problem(s) in your installed packages found. Why does portaudit think the apache+mod_ssl problem went away? The installed version is still: apache+mod_ssl-1.3.34+2.8.25_2 The Apache 1.3 webserver with SSL/TLS functionality Thanks! Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 01:12:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA6E16A412 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:12:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E190F43D67 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:12:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k9H1BmYL080012 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:11:48 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.3/8.12.11) id k9H1BxqY011767; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:11:59 +0700 (ICT) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:11:59 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200610170111.k9H1BxqY011767@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: bsd@todoo.biz In-reply-to: <3A36FE52-9F48-45D2-BEF2-D538331CA299@todoo.biz> (message from bsd on Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:34:55 +0200) References: <3A36FE52-9F48-45D2-BEF2-D538331CA299@todoo.biz> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading in the same RELENG without shutdown ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:12:02 -0000 Hi, > I was wondering if there is a way to patch (upgrading from 5.4- > RELEASE-p8 to a higher version) my system without going into the > classic : Considering that the system is like 10,000 km away,I cannot pay it a visit when I need to boot to single mode. So, I doeverything in multi user mode, knowing that there is no user connected to the system (web server). Though I do reboot every time that the procedure expects me to reboot, event if it is rebooting in multi -instead of single- user mode. It worked fine so far. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 01:12:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCD216A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:12:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB8043D58 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:12:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so839458uge for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:12:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GElyaXYrfzXdf+ANf511Ue+8AlUAO8SCsqE/bDC90096DBj52C3yYIgcD4znGTyvlgJre5x8Ig4He3oR+x1e3Mt5SOvLN98MRIoHB4Bk1IlW4DQ6SF74LfZqSYI+EUxtL4UodHdLoyZMF8pqeKAkHlzpNfpqeTaRIf+K895j54A= Received: by 10.67.93.7 with SMTP id v7mr9102357ugl; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.86.18 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20610161812m4b0e444ck4f83130a3d9e5732@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:12:27 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45341E87.4080300@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <80f4f2b20610161441h304ccfc4haa6a20f72a08e018@mail.gmail.com> <45341E87.4080300@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:12:29 -0000 > No offense to those who swear by it (and I know this is a bit > off-topic), but genkernel is shit. It's kernel compiling for people who > are afraid of forgetting make commands.. > -Garrett I agree, but since I couldn't get a decent custom kernel booting, that was my only option. And speaking of sht, in regards to Damiens last comment - I honestly don't believe that it's just binary drivers that keeps Linux with better driver support - there are more OSS drivers there too. The reason? It's fecal - linux only; cares that it works, they care much less about documentation and quality. It's enticing to the a lot of the developers and made the community larger - "Hey I can spend my time coding how I want instead of following standards and wasting time with documentation!!". Don't get me wrong, I think binary drivers due play an issue, by my BSD desktop had binary drivers in it too, they just weren't supplied with the BSD images (I don't think they would have been stored with linux images either). anyway, just another two cents of my own. -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 01:15:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD6B16A412 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF4643D73 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:15:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9H1CaWh040926; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:12:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9H1CamD040924; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:12:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:12:36 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: "Doel-Mackaway, Richard" Message-ID: <20061017011236.GA40831@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <03426FC7F879734CA8026B6814131E0505DBBD@otfexchange1.western_sydney.det.win> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <03426FC7F879734CA8026B6814131E0505DBBD@otfexchange1.western_sydney.det.win> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Redistribution of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:15:03 -0000 On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 09:44:52AM +1000, Doel-Mackaway, Richard wrote: > I am currently developing course material for students relating to > server installations. Does the FreeBSD license allow me to download > FreeBSD and redistribute that download to students? Yes. Read about it on the FreeBSD web site. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 01:50:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901A016A40F for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:50:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trodat@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C624B43D46 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:50:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trodat@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 34so1315716hui for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:50:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Rddhxp2V9jlmT8erWatv2jgxqsgijXdkADHlTLvnLQXzUE6zlqwF15QzWJYmgI2VCC5FSo5BY926BL2IZ3JnHf0BkrLi+18D99NYZKKCJ13I3M4dEHRciHxlcrMyqVbhiNYtmKhUDaR4Vcc+z6BGQ86PErkrRsKaaEXogDO2J5E= Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr496483nfl; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.67.12 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6f4e26b70610161823ke596eco536a31100d73420e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:23:01 -0600 From: "RoBeRT B" To: danial_thom@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <20061016231313.63985.qmail@web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061016032534.GB6398@soaustin.net> <20061016231313.63985.qmail@web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: performance@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Stable , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:50:04 -0000 If you see/grep Danial Thom in FreeBSD related, consider this: http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/88q1/13785.8.html http://amasci.com/weird/flamer.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_war My personal fav' is the first link... How do we know that 'DT' even exists? Hmmm. DT - Shhhhhhhh, go away for you do not exist. RB. On 10/16/06, Danial Thom wrote: > > > --- Mark Linimon wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 02:01:08PM -0400, > > Michael Butler wrote: > > > For everyone's benefit then, please feel free > > to submit your patches > > > along with your technical analysis. > > > > I think his best bet is a fork, instead. Then > > he can tell all the people > > that volunteer to work on _his_ project exactly > > what to do, and see how > > far he gets with that approach. > > > > As an extra-special bonus, since it's the BSD > > license, he can start with > > whatever version of FreeBSD he finds most meets > > his needs. > > > > Even better, with his own project, he can then > > redirect all his postings > > there and leave the rest of us in peace. > > > > Until then, I think I'll watch out for any > > flying monkeys. I consider > > their existance equally probable. > > > > mcl > > Why do I need to start a project? Matt Dillon is > already doing it. > > One thing that Matt has proved is that IQ isn't > cumulative. Because hes doing on his own what an > entire team of FreeBSD "engineers" can't do. But > hey, you're not getting paid, so I guess we > shouldn't expect anything good. Bravo for trying > guys. We appreciate your wasted efforts. > > I'm not nearly as concerned about the project at > this point. Dfly will be usable before freebsd, > and at least we know there's someone that knows > what they're doing over there. What concerns me > is the lying to all of the small businessman out > there. People wasting their money on hardware > that freebsd can't utilize. And you clowns > telling them how great it is. Its just plain > dishonest. > > DT > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-performance@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-performance > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-performance-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Why use Gmail? Cause HOTMAIL SUCKS! If you *STILL* are using HOTMAIL you only have to ask yourself "Why?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 02:26:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB8A16A5F0 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:26:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9E643D46 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:26:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9H2QPue019845 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:26:25 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [128.208.5.99] (nilakantha.cs.washington.edu [128.208.5.99]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9H2QPr9013187 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:26:25 -0700 Message-ID: <45343F57.3010904@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:26:31 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <80f4f2b20610161441h304ccfc4haa6a20f72a08e018@mail.gmail.com> <45341E87.4080300@u.washington.edu> <80f4f2b20610161811h24a94ecy48683c554bba78ec@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20610161811h24a94ecy48683c554bba78ec@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.266434, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.10.16.185942 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_MEDIA_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:26:26 -0000 Jim Stapleton wrote: >> No offense to those who swear by it (and I know this is a bit >> off-topic), but genkernel is shit. It's kernel compiling for people who >> are afraid of forgetting make commands.. >> -Garrett > > I agree, but since I couldn't get a decent custom kernel booting, that > was my only option. Ok, fair enough I suppose. > And speaking of sht, in regards to Damiens last comment - I honestly > don't believe that it's just binary drivers that keeps Linux with > better driver support - there are more OSS drivers there too. The > reason? It's fecal - linux only; cares that it works, they care much > less about documentation and quality. It's enticing to the a lot of > the developers and made the community larger - "Hey I can spend my > time coding how I want instead of following standards and wasting time > with documentation!!". Don't get me wrong, I think binary drivers due > play an issue, by my BSD desktop had binary drivers in it too, they > just weren't supplied with the BSD images (I don't think they would > have been stored with linux images either). > > anyway, just another two cents of my own. > > -Jim Stapleton Err... well, arguably a lot more of the Linux community may be individuals with a hacker mindset as opposed to a developer mindset. Just a thought. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 02:32:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DAB16A40F for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:32:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D8843D73 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:32:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 16 Oct 2006 22:32:46 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id MJL40663; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:32:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-203-219.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.203.219]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 16 Oct 2006 22:32:37 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,317,1157342400"; d="scan'208"; a="294608214:sNHT25298624" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17716.16503.737579.871281@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:31:19 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45342B88.4020904@alge.anart.no> References: <45342B88.4020904@alge.anart.no> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A09020A.4534406A.00AB,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.113/2006-07-26 Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:32:46 -0000 Anders Gulden Olstad writes: > .... I love the ability to upgrade from one major release to > another using source upgrade - without doing a complete > reinstall, as with the Linux distros I've used. It is worth noting that at least once - I think it was 3.x -> 4,0 - this was not the case. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 02:35:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8E816A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B44B43D5C for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:35:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k9H2YxLq082895 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:35:00 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.3/8.12.11) id k9H2ZElx012419; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:35:14 +0700 (ICT) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:35:14 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200610170235.k9H2ZElx012419@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: User vs Kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:35:14 -0000 Hi, I have an application that is running on virtual tty 0, i start it the following way: /etc/ttys ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Door" cons25 on secure /etc/gettytab Door: :ht:np:sp#115200:al=door: /etc/passwd door:*:0:0:Run the door program:/usr/local/door:/usr/local/door/door While the application is launched by getty, I would like to know if it is running in user mode or in kernel mode. I think in user mode, and so there is no reason why it should affect other processes, even if my application had some memory management problems. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 02:41:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FC716A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:41:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ext-gw.lemis.com (ext-gw.lemis.com [150.101.14.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495A143D58 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:41:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ext-gw.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F925133066; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:11:03 +0930 (CST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F26AF9C279; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:11:02 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:11:02 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Olivier Nicole Message-ID: <20061017024102.GO96445@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200610170235.k9H2ZElx012419@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vNrHrykRFvLVX6W3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200610170235.k9H2ZElx012419@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: User vs Kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:41:09 -0000 --vNrHrykRFvLVX6W3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tuesday, 17 October 2006 at 9:35:14 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > I have an application that is running on virtual tty 0, i start it the > following way: > > /etc/ttys > ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Door" cons25 on secure > > /etc/gettytab > Door: :ht:np:sp#115200:al=3Ddoor: > > /etc/passwd > door:*:0:0:Run the door program:/usr/local/door:/usr/local/door/door > > While the application is launched by getty, I would like to know if it > is running in user mode or in kernel mode. Processes always start in kernel mode, because they're started by the kernel. They typically spend most of their time in kernel mode (for example, whenever they're idle or waiting for I/O). An active process may switch back and forward between kernel mode and user mode thousands of times a second. > I think in user mode, and so there is no reason why it should affect > other processes, even if my application had some memory management > problems. A process which spends all its time in user mode is looping :-)=20 Maybe you should describe your problem. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --vNrHrykRFvLVX6W3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFNEK+IubykFB6QiMRAmNcAKCrN6f+KCkWmVKjOVBLMKMy1WgdBwCcCOzT DaMboYxNNmkiY6yR8yHVl9w= =n+vE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vNrHrykRFvLVX6W3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 02:50:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A5616A4B3 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from alnrmhc12.comcast.net (alnrmhc12.comcast.net [206.18.177.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDB543D6B for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:50:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from [192.168.214.215] (c-24-1-232-64.hsd1.tx.comcast.net[24.1.232.64]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20061017025033b1200er6gee>; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:50:33 +0000 Message-ID: <453444F9.4050707@computer.org> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:50:33 -0500 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061005) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nathan Lasseter References: <45325543.30406@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: <45325543.30406@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:50:36 -0000 On 10/15/06 10:35, Nathan Lasseter wrote: > Hi > I tried to install FreeBSD, but Windows hogs all the drivespace. Now > after aborting the installer, every time I power on, the Loader appears. > How do I remove it? Google "fdisk /mbr": http://support.microsoft.com/kb/69013 HTH > Thanks > Nathan. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Regards, Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 02:52:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE04F16A403; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:52:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E2D43D96; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:52:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k9H2q3nm083508 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:52:03 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.3/8.12.11) id k9H2qHaD012527; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:52:17 +0700 (ICT) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:52:17 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200610170252.k9H2qHaD012527@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: grog@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <20061017024102.GO96445@wantadilla.lemis.com> (grog@FreeBSD.org) References: <200610170235.k9H2ZElx012419@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <20061017024102.GO96445@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: User vs Kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:52:36 -0000 > Processes always start in kernel mode, because they're started by the > kernel. They typically spend most of their time in kernel mode (for > example, whenever they're idle or waiting for I/O). An active process > may switch back and forward between kernel mode and user mode > thousands of times a second. Thanks for the clarification. > Maybe you should describe your problem. The application has been working fine for almost 3 years, along with Apache, going through RELENG upgrade without problem. Now I start noticing that Apache hangs (sig 11), either manually built or port built, make buildworld hanged once with sig 11, my application hangs with sig 11. 2 options: - I added memory in the machine and the meory is causing problems. - I changed my application a little bit and it started eating other processes. Yesterday make buildworld consistenly hanged on building groff, today after cleaning the memory (using plain rubber on DIMM contacts) it is going fine (although Apache did hang since the cleaning). So I'd like to be sure that my application cannot eat other processes, so i could eliminate one cause. Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 02:46:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D7416A415 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:46:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin_nils@be-known-online.com) Received: from hw2.deuceswilddesigns.com (hw2.deuceswilddesigns.com [204.15.166.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64BEF43D6D for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:46:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from valentin_nils@be-known-online.com) Received: from cpanel by hw2.deuceswilddesigns.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GZey0-0008Sn-HO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:46:08 +0000 Received: from 221.186.130.209 ([221.186.130.209]) by www.be-known-online.com (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:46:08 +0000 Message-ID: <20061017024608.oz5nxhf483s4c444@www.be-known-online.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:46:08 +0000 From: valentin_nils@be-known-online.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-VertexHost-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-VertexHost-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-VertexHost-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-VertexHost-MailScanner-From: valentin_nils@be-known-online.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hw2.deuceswilddesigns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32001 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - be-known-online.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:59:40 +0000 Subject: Automated installations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:46:11 -0000 Hello FreeBSD fans, I am in search of an tool for automated installations. SOmething like Kickstart or Autoyast for Linux - just the BSD-able version ;-) Is anybody aware of such a tool that I perhaps overlooked or anybody perhaps currently developing one ? Best regards Nils Valentin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 03:31:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CDA16A417 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:31:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE4543D6D for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:31:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so2520922pye for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:31:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nyO9a0VK6iPqEbK2CpYzrhn+RApMY/4w/P2yQ4bOqB81ZBHY97bYwXcDBu0yNd+/Kl+mP/KS9YAIikxZ+buyEIEwQrqjQOGxjCyxw6AdOjeey5aGwtuV0iOHEelJ95iBfovjcJ3slt4DOGe+VYxi9jI4lB9ZKFsB476vnq1PXdE= Received: by 10.64.241.3 with SMTP id o3mr11322419qbh; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.103.4 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:31:39 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: "Joao Barros" In-Reply-To: <70e8236f0610151557m441baf19ma2ffc0cf504f4edb@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <70e8236f0610151546y2e644b4ajb3f86de5bff6179a@mail.gmail.com> <70e8236f0610151557m441baf19ma2ffc0cf504f4edb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: William Tracy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:31:49 -0000 > > > Ok, make that 3: Ports > I really don't miss rpm hell. yeah the ports make me fell in love with FreeBSD, the only thing that came close to FreeBSD ports is the gentoo portage, note came close but not really at par. _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 03:31:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF1116A522 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:31:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d1945@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4CF343D46 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:31:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from d1945@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 16762 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2006 03:31:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=38/KwhL72AlqwtQoyMrwKhFSUY9ibDPc5+lfbWgEqECW1bIFEWe9hgAPQo3rPY5BkH0L6RdhtdFub9tmdsw+kRLP6zWKqeyQ64rqHzidywNfUwmWUl58cHcvHAkqd2s9gilKSkPZrTsKpzk9nTvzb/h/8Dkok3VSi/TBwR7T4lQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO home) (d1945@sbcglobal.net@69.104.191.121 with login) by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 2006 03:31:50 -0000 Received: by home (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:31:49 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:31:49 -0700 From: George Allan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061017033149.GA1064@home> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20061017024608.oz5nxhf483s4c444@www.be-known-online.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061017024608.oz5nxhf483s4c444@www.be-known-online.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Automated installations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:31:52 -0000 On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 02:46:08AM +0000, valentin_nils@be-known-online.com wrote: > I am in search of an tool for automated installations. SOmething like > Kickstart or Autoyast for Linux - just the BSD-able version ;-) > > Is anybody aware of such a tool that I perhaps overlooked or anybody > perhaps currently developing one ? sysinstall(8) is your friend. pxeboot(8) will buy the drinks. Be sure to read through Section 2 of the fine Handbook. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 03:41:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4868016A417 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:41:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D894843D66 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:41:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so2523652pye for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:41:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nyO9a0VK6iPqEbK2CpYzrhn+RApMY/4w/P2yQ4bOqB81ZBHY97bYwXcDBu0yNd+/Kl+mP/KS9YAIikxZ+buyEIEwQrqjQOGxjCyxw6AdOjeey5aGwtuV0iOHEelJ95iBfovjcJ3slt4DOGe+VYxi9jI4lB9ZKFsB476vnq1PXdE= Received: by 10.64.241.3 with SMTP id o3mr11322419qbh; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.103.4 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:31:39 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: "Joao Barros" In-Reply-To: <70e8236f0610151557m441baf19ma2ffc0cf504f4edb@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <70e8236f0610151546y2e644b4ajb3f86de5bff6179a@mail.gmail.com> <70e8236f0610151557m441baf19ma2ffc0cf504f4edb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: William Tracy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:41:49 -0000 > > > Ok, make that 3: Ports > I really don't miss rpm hell. yeah the ports make me fell in love with FreeBSD, the only thing that came close to FreeBSD ports is the gentoo portage, note came close but not really at par. _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 04:32:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70C516A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ext-gw.lemis.com (ext-gw.lemis.com [150.101.14.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA53143D49 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:32:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ext-gw.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E31132FDE; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:02:18 +0930 (CST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 831E49C280; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:02:18 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:02:18 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Olivier Nicole Message-ID: <20061017043218.GP96445@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200610170235.k9H2ZElx012419@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <20061017024102.GO96445@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200610170252.k9H2qHaD012527@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="N5iGxCIPT7YMRg16" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200610170252.k9H2qHaD012527@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: User vs Kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:32:21 -0000 --N5iGxCIPT7YMRg16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday, 17 October 2006 at 9:52:17 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: >> Processes always start in kernel mode, because they're started by the >> kernel. They typically spend most of their time in kernel mode (for >> example, whenever they're idle or waiting for I/O). An active process >> may switch back and forward between kernel mode and user mode >> thousands of times a second. > > Thanks for the clarification. > >> Maybe you should describe your problem. > > The application has been working fine for almost 3 years, along with > Apache, going through RELENG upgrade without problem. > > Now I start noticing that Apache hangs (sig 11), A hang is when the system stops reacting. Signal 11 is not a hang: it's a segmentation violation, which means that the program has performed a specific kind of illegal operation. In the case of a program that used to work well, this almost invariably means that you have hardware problems. > 2 options: > > - I added memory in the machine and the meory is causing problems. Yes, this is possible > - I changed my application a little bit and it started eating > other processes. This is less likely. > So I'd like to be sure that my application cannot eat other > processes, so i could eliminate one cause. Don't even think about this at the moment. If you have just installed new memory and these problems occur, try taking it out again and seeing if the problem goes away. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --N5iGxCIPT7YMRg16 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFNFzSIubykFB6QiMRAgf/AKCuzhRMrv1SkVhZWxGUJdkErzZS5QCfSEP3 mT9qt5Au/h4hsLyyEnI0C9I= =s0Uv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --N5iGxCIPT7YMRg16-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 06:50:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B8B16A412 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 06:50:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from blackhole@abuse.plus.com) Received: from mail.happy-fish.org.uk (mail.happy-fish.org.uk [81.174.128.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B06C43D46 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 06:50:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from blackhole@abuse.plus.com) From: Mad Timekeeper To: freebsd-questions@happy-fish.org.uk Message-ID: Newsgroups: freebsd-questions Path: anonymous Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:39:17 +0100 References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.640 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Hops: 1 Cc: Subject: Re: I am such a fool! How to recover my data? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 06:50:05 -0000 On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:53:14 +0200, Kyrre Nygård wrote: I'm no FreeBSD expert... yet - so I would revert to Windows. So this is what I would do: 1. Use whatever software I can lay my hands on to make a full copy of the disk (your disk 1, I think), e.g. Norton Ghost or DriveImage. That way, if you screw up the recovery, you still have another copy and another chance. Running those utilities may result in some error messgaes if the partition table is screwed up - if so STOP, and don't agree to make any changes - seek advice bfore making any changes. 2. Then I would get the full details of the partition table as it is now. In my case I would use Norton's utility ptedit.exe, which you can download from their ftp site. You'll need to make a windows boot floppy (or CD if you don't have a floppy drive) and run ptedit.exe from that. 3. Then report back with the details. It may be simple or very difficult! Also explain how you think the disk was formatted before: was it just the complete disk as a single NTFS primary partition? Cheers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 07:04:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBE216A412 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junkmail.blackhole@happy-fish.org.uk) Received: from mail.happy-fish.org.uk (mail.happy-fish.org.uk [81.174.128.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C537243D46 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:04:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from junkmail.blackhole@happy-fish.org.uk) From: Mad Timekeeper To: freebsd-questions@happy-fish.org.uk Message-ID: Newsgroups: freebsd-questions Path: anonymous Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:04:28 +0100 References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.640 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Hops: 1 Cc: Subject: Re: I am such a fool! How to recover my data? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:04:35 -0000 On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:39:17 +0100, Mad Timekeeper wrote: >2. Then I would get the full details of the partition table as it is >now. In my case I would use Norton's utility ptedit.exe, which you >can download from their ftp site. You'll need to make a windows boot >floppy (or CD if you don't have a floppy drive) and run ptedit.exe >from that. I just remembered that there is another Norton utility: partinfo.exe that just extracts the partition information, whereas ptedit allows you to edit the partition table. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 07:25:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1468916A412 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:25:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4907143D5A for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:25:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 34so1369830hui for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:25:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=EeYPC6wQiDfeFotm/oOmO7vKAyRzog+14R3ywppjcwu7LAytpK/WwVtT6zVz9UVB1nVd7yhxOQGA24ZSmsiowcTZs8SdrCrdm0m8miCaqzSKaUxDAL09s1GN9ghnxVvSAtimjDJNN22g1azwdObUmopDWY/ID/F6rFulLxuLfWM= Received: by 10.78.201.15 with SMTP id y15mr8958296huf; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:25:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.167.16 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:25:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:25:05 +0400 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "Anders Troback" In-Reply-To: <20061016223754.16a13f46@devil.troback.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061016151343.2d6a7030@server25.gelita.swe> <70e8236f0610160731v12f644bv6ccbb118fb9a8cf1@mail.gmail.com> <20061016223754.16a13f46@devil.troback.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: d2521bec6375044d Cc: Joao Barros , FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Nvidia on CURRENT... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:25:11 -0000 On 10/17/06, Anders Troback wrote: > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:31:15 +0100 > "Joao Barros" wrote: > > > On 10/16/06, Anders Troback wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > X can't use the nvidia module and kldunload nvidia causes: Fatal > > > trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > Thanks!!! > > > > > > > > > PS. CURRENT cvsuped 6 hours ago! > > > > > > > Try recompiling the nvidia module. When recompiling a new kernel > > version always remind yourself to recompile the nvidia driver aswell > > :) > > > > Thanks but I did remember that this time:-) > > More ideas? I have it working fine on my current. Have you disabled agp in kernel config? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 07:56:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4288416A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:56:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913E943D60 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:56:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k9H7uax67398; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:56:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <000001c6f1c1$c55e46b0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Erik Norgaard" References: <200610131712.46822.freebsd@alaskaparadise.com><4530DA30.7060004@locolomo.org><001c01c6eff4$f77cd590$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <453211C9.8030102@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:44:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: Beech Rintoul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Non English Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:56:53 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Norgaard" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: "Beech Rintoul" ; Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 3:47 AM Subject: Re: Non English Spam > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> I have noted however, that some subscribers to this list write english > >> encoded in one of the above character sets, I don't know enough about > >> the character set definition, but it seems that English characters are a > >> subset of any character set? > >> > >> What is the recommended policy here? Should subscribers be advised to > >> change character set when posting to the list? > > > > No. It's the responsibility of the person doing the filtering - in this > > case you - > > to exempt any known good e-mail sender from your filters. > > > You know damn well that legitimate mailing list mail comes from > > > > mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) > > > > it's right in the headers of the messages on the list. > > First: You know all too well that filtering based on "Received" header > fields is not reliable - any decent spammer know how to forge that. Spammers cannot forge the Received header that your own mailserver puts into the received message. The first Received line of the message is always legitimate. You can also turn on the Sendmail flag to put in the envelope address if you have multiple aliases to a mailbox that you want to see. > Accepting mail from a particular host should be done even before the > mail delivery starts. > Don't know what your talking about here. > Second: If you know postfix, you also know that header filtering is > independent of other checks, even the result of filtering on individual > header lines are independent. > > So the ideal you mention is not an option until a complete public list > of authorized mail servers is available and all mail relayed through > these requires authentication. > I don't know Postfix. So what your saying is Postfix is so defective that you can't use it for filtering? No wonder I never bothered to deal with it. And, this isn't true anyway. You can easily tell with a little sleuthing what all of the mail emitters are for the FreeBSD mailing lists. Many mailing list managers, in fact, go to the trouble of posting publically what their mailservers are. And if the transmitting domain really has their shit together, they will have published SPF records in their DNS that will tell you what the authorized mailservers for that domain are. Sendmail has an SPF milter and I believe Spamassassin can also use these for weighting. (I'm too lazy to check for sure right now) > Or do you have the solution that does not imply accepting any of a > myriad of character sets? > > I'd be happy to implement that, but I don't want to open my mail server > to receive mail I have no means of reading and understanding just > because it is RFC compliant. > You open your mailserver to known, whitelisted, legitimate sending servers, and let everyone else deal with the charset filtering. You know your going to accept mail from freebsd.org (or you tell your users to tell you if they are) and you exempt these servers from filtering. > > You have no right to > > force other people to conform to what you feel is acceptable formatting > > of their message as long as they meet the SMTP rfc standards. That's > > why we have RFC's. > > You you know perfectly well that content filtering is not based on the > RFC's on SMTP but rather on the Internet Message Format and various > RFC's on MIME - but I assume that you meant to refer to these. > content filtering and message charsets aren't the same thing. A content filter checks for "Make Money FAST" and other obvious spam content. You don't like Viagra? That's a content filter that takes care of that. However, marking a non-spam message as spam soley because it's written in another language that you don't read - that's not a content filter. There's nothing in the content of that message that is spam. Thus you have no moral right to force mailing list users to conform to a specific language. Certainly, you can say "I don't know Spanish so I will just setup a filter to delete anything I get written in Spanish" but your crossing the line when you start telling people they can't post Spanish to a mailing list. > Basically what you say here is that spammers have every right to flood > mail servers as long as they do so compliant with the RFC's? > I'm saying that you don't have the right to force other people to modify their content on messages that AREN'T spam just because your spam filters are too piss-poor to differentiate between an Asian charset message that is spam, and an Asian charset message that is a legitimate message. > I don't force anyone to conform to any arbitrary standards that I decide > upon, but I have every legitimate right to reject anything that doesn't > conform to my arbitrary standards. > No argument there - but your crossing the line (or the other poster is crossing the line) when your talking about telling list subscribers to change charsets when they post. Keep in mind also that the entire point of the list is for newbies anyway, and there's been plenty of busted mail client software out there in the past that mishandled charsets even on English, and there will be in the future. Some of these people wouldn't know a charset from a chair, much less how to change it, and are coming from Windows systems and God-knows what else. What do you want to do with these folks? Ignore them so they think we are a bunch of arseholes and then go to the Penguin? Or guide them in the paths of righteousness? > Yet, it is somewhat implicit that this is an English language list, any > one writing in a different language may be lucky to find someone who can > respond in their language, but are just as often referred to one of the > language specific lists - if their message is not simply ignored. > Yes, that is true. Thus, the best way to handle non-English posts to the list by non-English posters is to reply, off-list, and direct the subscriber elsewhere, or tell them to re-post in English. That is how just about all mailing lists have handled this in the past and how they all handle it now, and there is no good reason to start setting up filters on the mailing list to block these kinds of posts. > So we do actually impose some arbitrary rule on subscribers, namely to > write in English. No, we don't. If non-English speakers were to carry on a dialog on the mailing list it would be perfectly fine. It has, in fact, happened in the past that non-English speakers have posted here and had responses in their native language that answered their question, along with the usual statement that they would get a lot more assistance if they posted their questions in English. It's not that common, but it has happened a few times that I've seen. > Given that we find it reasonable to impose such a > rule, That is the heart of the debate. You think it's reasonable simply because you decided Sendmail was too difficult to learn and copped out on an easy replacement - that replacement is now falling down on the increased complex demands spammers present, and your going to try to make the world conform to what the crap software your using can handle. It isn't a given that this is a reasonable rule to impose and nothing you have said so far supports the assertion that it is. > then why is it unreasonable to impose that they should abstain > from obscure non-English character sets? > > I was hoping to find a way that we can all get along, I find it kind of > useless to waste my resources on mail written in languages that I have > no means of interpreting. > But, since you already said that your filtering non-English postings, your basically being completely silly since the percentage of legitimate non-English mails you get is probably a ten thousandth of the spam - having the FreeBSD mailserver drop it before you get it won't make a dent in the resources your already spending to filter. > > If everyone did what your proposing then senders would have hundreds > > of different rules they would have to follow, over and above the normal > > RFCs. > > Well, in real life as well as on-line we have thousands of rules and > customs, implicit or written, on communication and gestures. > Oh baloney. Some of the biggest flame wars I've seen started because people LACK the many thousands of non-verbal feedback cues that are present in standard verbal or face to face communication. Email is significant in what it LACKS in the way of rules or customs, not what it HAS. > There are best practices on how to communicate in e-mail and on mailling > lists, usage of smileys and other types of mood-expression, and > proclaimed best practices on how to quote. > There's a few people out there who claim to tell everyone else how to send e-mails, yes. But you can turn on the TV and see the Dr. Phil show and see the same thing for face to face communication. Both are for amusement value only. > You regularly see people complaining about top posting. Then, line > wrapping, or people who don't delete the trailing message part that they > don't reply to etc. > No, not at all. What I DO regularly see is people who don't like the CONTENT of a message - they don't like being called a stupid arsehole when they are being one, for example - and because they have no real defense for acting the stupid arsehole, they instead retaliate by complaining about top posting, or spelling, or some other lamers whine. Nobody who ever really LIKED the content of a message EVER bitched out the poster about top posting. Oh sure, they will complain if they don't like the content - but if the responder is helping THEM with THEIR little problem, well then by God, top post away, all day long and more power to you!!! Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 08:35:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436A216A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:35:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arek_cz@gazeta.pl) Received: from imail2.gazeta.pl (host-193-42-231-144.gazeta.pl [193.42.231.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FDD43D60 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:35:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arek_cz@gazeta.pl) Received: from poczta.gazeta.pl (unverified [194.149.231.60]) by (imail2.gazeta.pl) with ESMTP id 55092667 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:35:18 +0300 Received: from [192.168.0.250] (unverified [213.216.67.82]) by mailis01.gazeta.pl (mailis01.gazeta.pl) with ESMTP id 4638438 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:35:17 +0200 Message-ID: <45349529.3020305@gazeta.pl> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:32:41 +0200 From: Arek User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Liste FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Outgoing Last 0, First 324, in=21623261, out=109, spam=0 Known=true X-External-IP: 194.149.231.60 Subject: SATA Raid controller. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:35:29 -0000 Hello, Can someone give me an advice about good sata raid controller? I'd like have RAID 5. I thinking about buying RAID INTEL SRCS28X Serial ATA II Have someone this controller? How this work with RELENG_6? Thank you for any advice. Regards Arek -- "UNIX is like a wigwam: no windows, no gates, apache inside." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 08:40:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E27F16A417 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahilliya@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3EB43D55 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:40:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jahilliya@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so1910492wxc for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:40:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HBgP/Hauh6Td4tbpsxjHPTXsSkbYGIvUQITeTJ5aCf2uiNt/nGM0gGGUfPQijh7EQQP4McWxGFr+Nk95XhvV94wmJD6bsNYbbw1RYlgTB1fHrfU5QcH5uwnsMuhIXxAcQDzhPtmmu1aXKWsrC4cIB0OMSG1vXqz3hyO7ku/9E3I= Received: by 10.90.94.2 with SMTP id r2mr4429913agb; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.101.10 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:40:16 +0800 From: Jahilliya To: Arek In-Reply-To: <45349529.3020305@gazeta.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <45349529.3020305@gazeta.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: SATA Raid controller. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:40:22 -0000 On 10/17/06, Arek wrote: > > Hello, > > Can someone give me an advice about good sata > raid controller? > > I'd like have RAID 5. > > I thinking about buying RAID INTEL SRCS28X Serial ATA II > Have someone this controller? > How this work with RELENG_6? > > Thank you for any advice. > > Regards > Arek > > 3ware and Areca come highly recommended by most. Have a look in the hardware list on the FreeBSD website for a list of Areca and 3ware models that are supported. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 09:22:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049BE16A40F for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:22:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7812343D62 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:22:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.7.193] (68.Red-80-34-55.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.34.55.68]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8F32E037; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:22:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4534A0D8.2070909@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:22:32 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: <200610131712.46822.freebsd@alaskaparadise.com><4530DA30.7060004@locolomo.org><001c01c6eff4$f77cd590$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <453211C9.8030102@locolomo.org> <000001c6f1c1$c55e46b0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> In-Reply-To: <000001c6f1c1$c55e46b0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Beech Rintoul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Non English Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:22:43 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Spammers cannot forge the Received header that your own mailserver > puts into the received message. The first Received line of the message > is always legitimate. Please read my reply to Ian, who commented exactly the same. The Recieved headers are useless for filtering. >> Accepting mail from a particular host should be done even before the >> mail delivery starts. > > Don't know what your talking about here. The first Received header line, which as you correctly mention is (the only) reliable, is inserted by your own server based on the info from the establishing connection and HELO command. In this case you can decide to accept or reject the mail before accepting the DATA. This is more efficient as you don't waste bandwidth receiving data you will later reject. Also this means that later filtering on the first Received field is double work: You already accepted the mail based on that information. In short: Writing header filtering rules for the Received field is simply waste of time and proof of inefficiency. >> Second: If you know postfix, you also know that header filtering is >> independent of other checks, even the result of filtering on individual >> header lines are independent. >> > I don't know Postfix. So what your saying is Postfix is so defective > that you can't use it for filtering? No wonder I never bothered to > deal with it. Just as Sendmail, Postfix is not designed for spam filtering. Postfix provides simple filtering mechanisms, keeping it simple postfix provides an effective and reliable MTA that doesn't suffer the track record of security bugs Sendmail does. When the native filters does not suffice you can combine with any number of "policy services": External filtering mechanisms such as postgrey, spam assassin etc. This design is clean, reliable and easy to manage. I mentioned a solution using the mechanisms supported natively by postfix. OP had problems that spam assassin and procmail did not catch these mails. >> Basically what you say here is that spammers have every right to flood >> mail servers as long as they do so compliant with the RFC's? > > I'm saying that you don't have the right to force other people to modify > their content on messages that AREN'T spam just because your spam > filters are too piss-poor to differentiate between an Asian charset message > that is spam, and an Asian charset message that is a legitimate message. Call it piss-poor, but it is very effective, and simple to implement. If you have an effective alternative please do share. OP requested a way to filter away the spam in foreign character sets because for some reason these were not caught by Spam Assassin or procmail. I gave a solution that solves that problem, and I mentioned the problem of false negatives for this list. Rather than get pissed, do try to offer an alternative solution to a real problem. >> I don't force anyone to conform to any arbitrary standards that I decide >> upon, but I have every legitimate right to reject anything that doesn't >> conform to my arbitrary standards. > > No argument there - but your crossing the line (or the other poster is > crossing the line) when your talking about telling list subscribers to > change charsets when they post. I think you misread my original post. I brought up the issue exactly because filtering on charsets causes false positives whichever way you do it. I don't have a particular desire to throw away legitimate mail, in fact I'd like to solve that problem (and I think OP want that too), but so far you have not contributed with a working alternative. I asked politely if there were any consensus or best practices etc. on this issue. You have the regular mail on "how to get the best results" there are recommendations on how to use this list, they are not enforced but only serve as guidelines. I don't try to force people to use particular character sets, I merely ask whether such recommendation exist for "the best results when using the list", in which case filtering on charsets may be the least imperfect solution (until you share your perfect filter, that is). Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 09:23:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8656C16A4A0 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:23:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258FA43D77 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:22:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so228119nfc for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:22:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ak7l1K7VzXd+EJcJBUBa4mNpsCjMK2jiL+rJnNXcpri8rbkGZl4HuI1BmIvvY92ljgUpZ/6676uW9y1bus7n4RiKd2dARoVJEo+3gluYpAJlwpNWoJ4mFKWNPlzJ9VczaxKhIY3lKL2tmDnVNxbkJgbiafL4ycdoKYDSHaJr5F8= Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr1159056nfg; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:52:43 +0530 From: Subhro To: "Michael S" In-Reply-To: <20061016141356.91741.qmail@web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061016141356.91741.qmail@web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Acroread not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:23:02 -0000 Hello Michael, Thank for writing back. On 10/16/06, Michael S wrote: > My setup is quite similar: > linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.99.902_7 XFree86 libraries, > Linux binary > linux-aspell-0.50.4.1_1 Spelling checker with better > logic than ispell (linux versi > linux-atk-1.9.1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 > binary > linux-expat-1.95.8 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat > XML-parsing library > linux-flashplugin-7.0r63_1 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI > Plugin > linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_5 Linux/i386 binary of > Fontconfig > linux-glib2-2.6.6 Version 2.X Linux/i386 binary port > of GLib > linux-gtk2-2.6.10 GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux > binary > linux-jpeg-6b.34 RPM of the JPEG lib > linux-openmotif-2.2.4_2 Motif toolkit Linux libraries > linux-pango-1.8.1 Linux pango binary > linux-png-1.2.8_2 RPM of the PNG lib > linux-realplayer-10.0.7.785.20060201 Linux RealPlayer > 10 from RealNetworks > linux-tiff-3.7.1 TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary > linux-xorg-libs-6.8.2_5 Xorg libraries, linux binaries > linux_base-fc-4_8 Base set of packages needed in > Linux mode (for i386/amd64) > linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_4 A wrapper allowing use > of linux-plugins with native applica > linuxthreads-2.2.3_21 POSIX pthreads implementation > using rfork to generate kerne > > I am running 5.5 on this machine though. > And linux compatibility is enabled I assume? > Yeh!! I am just running xorg and not XFree86. Do you think I need to install XFree86? Also I installed acroread from the ports. Should not it fetch all the dependancies? Regarding linux compatibility: [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ cat /etc/rc.conf | grep linux linux_enable="YES" So, yes, its enabled. Thanks for replying back. Best Regards Subhro -- Subhro Kar Security Engineer iViZ Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd. Dhanshree Bldg, 1st Floor Plot XI-16, Sector V Salt Lake City 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 10:48:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2086216A412 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:48:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan.Johansen@cc.uit.no) Received: from mux2.uit.no (mux2.uit.no [129.242.5.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84EE43D68 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:48:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Johan.Johansen@cc.uit.no) Received: from flode.cc.uit.no (flode.cc.uit.no [129.242.6.250]) by mux2.uit.no (8.13.8/8.13.6/Mux) with ESMTP id k9HAm0h8052047 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:48:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tausa.cc.uit.no (tausa.cc.uit.no [129.242.6.78]) by flode.cc.uit.no (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k9HAm0iJ039749; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:48:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from johan@cc.uit.no) Received: from tausa.cc.uit.no (localhost.cc.uit.no [127.0.0.1]) by tausa.cc.uit.no (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9HAlwoP004623; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:47:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from johan@tausa.cc.uit.no) Message-Id: <200610171047.k9HAlwoP004623@tausa.cc.uit.no> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.2 To: "Josh Carroll" In-reply-to: <8cb6106e0610160923g6d8c1480nef76e579faa4991a@mail.gmail.com> References: <200610161159.k9GBxAAi012441@tausa.cc.uit.no> <8cb6106e0610160923g6d8c1480nef76e579faa4991a@mail.gmail.com> Comments: In-reply-to "Josh Carroll" message dated "Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:23:28 -0700." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:47:58 +0200 From: Johan Johansen X-Virus-Scanned: : ok X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 129.242.5.252 Cc: Johan Johansen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: atapicam trouble X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:48:13 -0000 Actually, on my system I can do mount_udf /dev/acd0 and copy a 3GB file, I just tried. My problem is adding CAM support, which the handbook tells me I have to use to burn dvd. johan > > I'm unable to copy a file from a udf-mounted DVD regardless of whether > atapicam is loaded or not, so I'm not sure if atapicam is just making > a problem more apparent or what. Are you able to do so? > > Thanks, > Josh > > On 10/16/06, Johan Johansen wrote: > > > > > > I still have the same problem as below, even when running 6.2-BETA2 from > > a FreeSBIE - cd. I wonder if this could have to do with badly supportet > > motherboard, ASUS P5B, since I dont see any temp-readings with sysctl. > > cpuTemp and MBTemp are displayed under bios-config. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 10:55:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9AD016A407 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D9C43D5C for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:55:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so1940471wxc for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.38.12 with SMTP id l12mr13489006wxl; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h35sm2705702wxd.2006.10.17.03.55.47; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D675B8DE; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 06:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss.seibercom.net [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD81B835; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 06:55:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 06:56:06 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom.NET X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20061017064757.4C88.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.27 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Problem with Portsnap Update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:55:50 -0000 I encountered this immediately after running 'portsnap' this moring: /usr/sbin/pkg_version -vIL= py25-tkinter-2.5_1 > succeeds index (index has 2.4.3_1) python-2.5 < needs updating (index has 2.4.3,1) python24-2.4.3_2 < needs updating (index has 2.4.3_3) python25-2.5 'python-2.5' does not even appear to exist in the ports tree. 'py25-tkinter-2.5_1' also seems to have a problem. Is there something wrong with this mornings portsnap update? -- Gerard GMail: Home of AOL retreads! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 11:12:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1EA16A492 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:12:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alistair.sutton@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9431743D46 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:12:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alistair.sutton@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so1944108wxc for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:12:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=M7guJ227qnAJq4mXo3NgxZusQAyVY4FaH7E+/6VajSOO+YxHTqQ4Wc8QHyJPM8JqR9bJo1mwPuyAYgtDbZvvWilP8Yu03AufNmUIBsfItbmy02/BtJSyIJMqDBWN54pa5zMQlbnKytu/1Xf/cLvFGYEpAcn7mESZ7wVQDwXxtaI= Received: by 10.90.80.8 with SMTP id d8mr4538452agb; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.32.6 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:12:06 +0100 From: "Alistair Sutton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20061017064757.4C88.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061017064757.4C88.GERARD@seibercom.net> Subject: Re: Problem with Portsnap Update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:12:08 -0000 On 17/10/06, Gerard Seibert wrote: > I encountered this immediately after running 'portsnap' this moring: > > /usr/sbin/pkg_version -vIL= > > py25-tkinter-2.5_1 > succeeds index (index has 2.4.3_1) > python-2.5 < needs updating (index has 2.4.3,1) > python24-2.4.3_2 < needs updating (index has 2.4.3_3) > python25-2.5 > > > 'python-2.5' does not even appear to exist in the ports tree. Doesn't python-2.5 live under lang/python25 or has it been removed from the ports tree? (Hopefully that doesn't sound like a rephrasing of your question) > 'py25-tkinter-2.5_1' also seems to have a problem. Is there something > wrong with this mornings portsnap update? The problem could come from the downgrading of lang/python back to 2.4 after some problems were found with the 2.5 import. I've not seen any instructions in /usr/ports/UPDATING for those people that upgraded to python-2.5 before the change was reversed. What would be the best course of action? (I force-upgraded all the ports that were depending upon lang/python because I'm crazy and have loads of time on my hands). Al -- WWW: http://ajs.no-dns-yet.org.uk GPG/PGP: http://ajs.no-dns-yet.org.uk/pubkey.gpg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 11:17:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA4116A417 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DC643D49 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:17:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so888188uge for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:17:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oVbhG5iKViFu54yX5Wuajalkt6oGwStyKttdooBKIPha0xU3hbZYfqjqYEKtFos04XYJWdeSHMMQpqq9nHuVKfneWMgvl51wE6+HoQIciotw1OxkCXJ9JNpzD9X96NHEuaTOMh8Lx42/JjhH80H9AC76AJWmOp8NB+iPpEuzXAw= Received: by 10.66.221.19 with SMTP id t19mr9601709ugg; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.86.18 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20610170417u18205402q2b9cb2eec97d70ec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:17:54 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <70e8236f0610151546y2e644b4ajb3f86de5bff6179a@mail.gmail.com> <70e8236f0610151557m441baf19ma2ffc0cf504f4edb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:17:56 -0000 > yeah the ports make me fell in love with FreeBSD, the only thing that came > close to FreeBSD ports is the gentoo portage, note came close but not > really at par. > yeah, portage wasn't bad, but it wasn't as clean as ports either. More errors, more fixing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 05:29:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C3C16A417 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin_tsanov@yahoo.com) Received: from web60324.mail.yahoo.com (web60324.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A534C43D62 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:29:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin_tsanov@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 38643 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Oct 2006 05:29:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hXZdYT2UDhwMMOWMRxWFAnELzuTNl+sUYzpD/oWN77G744KB0sNZlbH+9Cj7ZuU2BxEJBnv5Nmbrgkat/auEQrXSOcn3D6L3/fnoTDFUjGohUz365wGRo4qh5ZHVksll5LIsFTdSejMC3Y/Mm2WgXfQJ0P3eUMSR5I5l4JteW/o= ; Message-ID: <20061017052933.38641.qmail@web60324.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [71.201.221.8] by web60324.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:29:33 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:29:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Martin Tsanov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:27:51 +0000 Subject: Sendmail with SpamAssassin and ClamAV X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:29:35 -0000 Hello, I have installed spamassassin and clamav and created myhost.mc file from which myhost.cf is generated. 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 05:43:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7BE16A49E; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:43:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [80.253.10.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331B243D67; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:43:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from srv.sem.ipt.ru ([192.168.12.1] helo=ipt.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZhjl-000ACr-Sx; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:43:37 +0400 Received: from bsam by ipt.ru with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZhl2-0007VK-3e; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:44:56 +0400 To: corwin@aeternal.net References: <20060711162744.A22592@malcolm.berkeley.edu> <452C09B6.4030009@pobox.sk> <20061010220934.GA1484@dfwdamian.vail> <1160524816.70546.287.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> <4531FFCD.8040607@aeternal.net> <1161006945.52932.293.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> <20061016171841.d569ea5e.vlady@gbservices.biz> <1161013656.52932.301.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> <4533AA65.9010708@aeternal.net> <20061016185245.3421bf44.vlady@gbservices.biz> <45340119.4060008@aeternal.net> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:44:56 +0400 In-Reply-To: <45340119.4060008@aeternal.net> (Martin Hudec's message of "Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:00:57 +0200") Message-ID: <12111879@srv.sem.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:28:12 +0000 Cc: Vladimir Terziev , freebsd-database@freebsd.org, Damian Wiest , shildreth@allantgroup.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:43:56 -0000 On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:00:57 +0200 Martin Hudec wrote: > Vladimir Terziev wrote: > > I'll be very thankful if you provide working instructions how to intermix FreeBSD and Linux libraries. > > Thanks in advance! > I sense bit of irony here, but I hope I just have wrong feeling :). > Mixing BSD and Linux libs? Well - what do you say on using native > Firefox with linux flash plugin? Works too. > I will try to do it, and let's hope I'll be able to get oracle > connection to test simple perl script as without it I am bit lost (I > used only client stuff, not full oracle database). Just a note: you can't mix FreeBSD and linux libraries at one application. Those processes may interact via stdin/stdout, sockets etc. just fine. But if you try to mix _libraries_ you'll get EFF OS ABI errors. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 07:26:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D9316A40F; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:26:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vladimir.terziev@gbservices.biz) Received: from cat.gbservices.biz (cat-mtl.gbservices.biz [213.226.50.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A4843D6E; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:26:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vladimir.terziev@gbservices.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost.gbs.gbdom.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477FC2EDB03; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:26:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fs.gbs.gbdom.com (fs.gbs.gbdom.com [192.168.2.244]) by cat.gbservices.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB2E2EDAD7; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:26:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.gbs.gbdom.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F2F28504; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:26:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from daemon.gbs.gbdom.com (daemon.gbs.gbdom.com [192.168.2.104]) by fs.gbs.gbdom.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BC74928503; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:26:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:26:07 +0300 From: Vladimir Terziev To: Boris Samorodov Message-Id: <20061017102607.f31dcf43.vlady@gbservices.biz> In-Reply-To: <12111879@srv.sem.ipt.ru> References: <20060711162744.A22592@malcolm.berkeley.edu> <452C09B6.4030009@pobox.sk> <20061010220934.GA1484@dfwdamian.vail> <1160524816.70546.287.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> <4531FFCD.8040607@aeternal.net> <1161006945.52932.293.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> <20061016171841.d569ea5e.vlady@gbservices.biz> <1161013656.52932.301.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> <4533AA65.9010708@aeternal.net> <20061016185245.3421bf44.vlady@gbservices.biz> <45340119.4060008@aeternal.net> <12111879@srv.sem.ipt.ru> Organization: GB Services Ltd. X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.9 (GTK+ 2.6.4; i386-unknown-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GBS-F X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GBS-C X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:28:41 +0000 Cc: freebsd-database@freebsd.org, Damian Wiest , corwin@aeternal.net, shildreth@allantgroup.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:26:33 -0000 No irony, i was serious! According to my experience, Boris is right, that's way i was serious. Using flash plugin with native Firefox is based on flashplugin-wrapper. As i know there is no such wrapper for Oracle Linux instantclient, that's way i'm interested to know a new solution, if any. Vladimir On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:44:56 +0400 Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:00:57 +0200 Martin Hudec wrote: > > Vladimir Terziev wrote: > > > I'll be very thankful if you provide working instructions how to intermix FreeBSD and Linux libraries. > > > Thanks in advance! > > > I sense bit of irony here, but I hope I just have wrong feeling :). > > Mixing BSD and Linux libs? Well - what do you say on using native > > Firefox with linux flash plugin? Works too. > > > I will try to do it, and let's hope I'll be able to get oracle > > connection to test simple perl script as without it I am bit lost (I > > used only client stuff, not full oracle database). > > Just a note: you can't mix FreeBSD and linux libraries at one > application. Those processes may interact via stdin/stdout, sockets > etc. just fine. But if you try to mix _libraries_ you'll get EFF OS > ABI errors. > > > WBR > -- > Boris Samorodov (bsam) > Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP > FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 11:38:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9643F16A407 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:38:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duncan.fbsd@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046CB43D49 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:38:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duncan.fbsd@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so2662841pye for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:37:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=OWzRa2GFrOiqxj7ezr1S152/G6527GhF62gUxqwAVCcOA6Ln6Li6ysMAmEbbEJKMpstZZ2qFy7EZGmUoL5JkYcd940apq8V5AS1WeXpuINduxerhFs8tOhhsK272F6DaCDQe0EqdBpiTeBQVlk369G/OSS4rytaegmpZOCsYnLU= Received: by 10.35.52.18 with SMTP id e18mr15104699pyk; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pres1750.airedalians.com ( [75.7.74.134]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id n62sm1999094pyf.2006.10.17.04.37.31; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:37:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Donald J. O'Neill" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 06:37:27 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <200610161159.k9GBxAAi012441@tausa.cc.uit.no> <8cb6106e0610160923g6d8c1480nef76e579faa4991a@mail.gmail.com> <200610171047.k9HAlwoP004623@tausa.cc.uit.no> In-Reply-To: <200610171047.k9HAlwoP004623@tausa.cc.uit.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610170637.28358.duncan.fbsd@gmail.com> Cc: Johan Johansen , Josh Carroll Subject: Re: atapicam trouble X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:38:06 -0000 On Tuesday 17 October 2006 05:47, Johan Johansen wrote: > Actually, on my system I can do mount_udf /dev/acd0 and copy a 3GB > file, I just tried. My problem is adding CAM support, which the > handbook tells me I have to use to burn dvd. > > johan > > > I'm unable to copy a file from a udf-mounted DVD regardless of whether > > atapicam is loaded or not, so I'm not sure if atapicam is just making > > a problem more apparent or what. Are you able to do so? > > > > Thanks, > > Josh > > > > On 10/16/06, Johan Johansen wrote: > > > I still have the same problem as below, even when running 6.2-BETA2 > > > from a FreeSBIE - cd. I wonder if this could have to do with badly > > > supportet motherboard, ASUS P5B, since I dont see any temp-readings > > > with sysctl. cpuTemp and MBTemp are displayed under bios-config. > > _______________________________________________ Look in /boot/kernel and see if atapikam.ko is there. It should be. If it is, you can use 'atapicam_load="YES"' in /boot/loader.conf to load atapicam at boot. You can use 'kldload atapicam.ko' to just load it while system is running to see if it works before going any further. You can use kldstat to varify that it's loaded. Below is the output of kldstat from one of my systems: # kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 15 0xc0400000 5cae28 kernel 2 1 0xc09cb000 59f4 snd_atiixp.ko 3 2 0xc09d1000 22b88 sound.ko 4 1 0xc09f4000 4ae8 atapicam.ko 5 1 0xc09f9000 5a78 if_fwip.ko 6 1 0xc09ff000 59f00 acpi.ko 7 2 0xc4f2f000 16000 linux.ko 8 1 0xc504a000 2000 rtc.ko Hope this will help you guys a bit. Don From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 12:00:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA7416A403; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:00:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@troback.com) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DA943D5D; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:00:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@troback.com) Received: from server25.gelita.swe (212-162-182-242.skbbip.com [212.162.182.242]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63B110FCA8; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:59:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:59:55 +0200 From: Anders Troback To: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Message-ID: <20061017135955.7cfb0daf@server25.gelita.swe> In-Reply-To: References: <20061016151343.2d6a7030@server25.gelita.swe> <70e8236f0610160731v12f644bv6ccbb118fb9a8cf1@mail.gmail.com> <20061016223754.16a13f46@devil.troback.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.2 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Troback-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Troback-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Troback-MailScanner-From: freebsd@troback.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Joao Barros , FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Nvidia on CURRENT... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:00:05 -0000 On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:25:05 +0400 "Andrew Pantyukhin" wrote: > On 10/17/06, Anders Troback wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:31:15 +0100 > > "Joao Barros" wrote: > > > > > On 10/16/06, Anders Troback wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > X can't use the nvidia module and kldunload nvidia causes: Fatal > > > > trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode. > > > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > > > Thanks!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > PS. CURRENT cvsuped 6 hours ago! > > > > > > > > > > Try recompiling the nvidia module. When recompiling a new kernel > > > version always remind yourself to recompile the nvidia driver > > > aswell :) > > > > > > > Thanks but I did remember that this time:-) > > > > More ideas? >=20 > I have it working fine on my current. Have you disabled agp in > kernel config? No, should I? Running on GENERIC! --=20 Anders Trob=E4ck http://www.troback.com/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming, or what?" -------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 12:01:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4131E16A84A for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:01:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greenwood.andy@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74DF443D55 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:01:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from greenwood.andy@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so1955931wxc for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:01:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BcwRN6IYMbQ9E/ngQ+jl7xD/suMMtwfN8sQKWQKF9hylOXpGll9IJEfCDbcP0FeQUnJltF7MaeCxsevl/5P0QlxoZ/McdSIWWtm0f2PdWIRQ+9m+o32sDS//PyF5m2o3zm6//T/dauXvscl9bMKmVebBZXOSxlE45eZb6r0ZfVY= Received: by 10.90.73.3 with SMTP id v3mr4618456aga; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.92.9 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3ee9ca710610170501q20197e7es72fde9f895190416@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:01:10 -0400 From: "Andy Greenwood" To: "Matthew Rench" In-Reply-To: <20061017004401.GA430@gandalf.pelennor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061017004401.GA430@gandalf.pelennor.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bittorrent consuming 100% cpu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:01:12 -0000 I'd recommend transmission. You can get the source from http://transmission.m0k.org/. You can configure it for console use with ./configure --disable-gtk && gmake. It needs GNU make, BSD make won't work. Uses very little resources as it's written in C, so your python port won't matter. On 10/16/06, Matthew Rench wrote: > Hello, > > Due to the recent security advisor, I upgraded my python port. Foolishly, > I managed to upgrade from version 2.4 to 2.5, which forced me to also upgrade > my bittorrent port (from version 3.x to 4.20.2_1,1). Unfortunately, I now > find that the bittorrent console app (/usr/local/bin/bittorrent-console) > now consumes 100% of my CPU, according to top. I am quite sure that even > 5-10 instances of the previous version did not together use this much CPU. > > So, I ktrace'd a running copy of bittorrent, and found the following, > repeated more or less continually: > > 493 python 1161045605.243985 CALL poll(0x8138000,0x5,0xe) > 493 python 1161045605.272699 RET poll 0 > 493 python 1161045605.272750 CALL gettimeofday(0x281dd788,0) > 493 python 1161045605.272783 RET gettimeofday 0 > 493 python 1161045605.273029 CALL gettimeofday(0xbfbfec94,0) > 493 python 1161045605.273097 RET gettimeofday 0 > 493 python 1161045605.273865 CALL gettimeofday(0xbfbfdf34,0) > 493 python 1161045605.273955 RET gettimeofday 0 > 493 python 1161045605.274837 CALL gettimeofday(0xbfbfe014,0) > 493 python 1161045605.274920 RET gettimeofday 0 > 493 python 1161045605.275304 CALL gettimeofday(0xbfbfdd14,0) > 493 python 1161045605.275375 RET gettimeofday 0 > 493 python 1161045605.276452 CALL gettimeofday(0xbfbfec94,0) > 493 python 1161045605.276543 RET gettimeofday 0 > 493 python 1161045605.276758 CALL poll(0x87ede20,0x3,0) > 493 python 1161045605.276845 RET poll 0 > 493 python 1161045605.276909 CALL poll(0x8138000,0x4,0) > 493 python 1161045605.276956 RET poll 0 > 493 python 1161045605.276998 CALL poll(0x8138000,0x5,0x14) > 493 python 1161045605.302720 RET poll 0 > > Since I don't know much about python, I'm at a loss to explain this. Has > anyone else had similar issues with newer versions of bittorrent? Is there > a different client I should be using? > > mdr > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- I'm nerdy in the extreme and whiter than sour cream From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 12:01:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4716E16A4B3 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from sirian.hst.org.za (sirian.hst.org.za [209.203.2.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A7A43D49 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:01:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from localhost (localhost.hst.org.za [127.0.0.1]) by sirian.hst.org.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4884531C47C for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:04:04 +0200 (SAST) Received: from sirian.hst.org.za ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sirian.hst.org.za [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06880-10 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:04:04 +0200 (SAST) Received: by sirian.hst.org.za (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04EE431C459; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:04:04 +0200 (SAST) Received: from sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) by sirian.hst.org.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14FF31C442 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:04:02 +0200 (SAST) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:03:45 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200610152219.47346.jonathan@hst.org.za> <200610161654.50208.jonathan@hst.org.za> In-Reply-To: <200610161654.50208.jonathan@hst.org.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610171403.45768.jonathan@hst.org.za> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on sirian.hst.org.za X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.61 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hst.org.za Subject: Re: mimedefang with LDAP-enabled sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:01:44 -0000 On Monday 16 October 2006 16:54, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Sunday 15 October 2006 22:19, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > > sendmail -d0.1 -bt > > > Version 8.13.6 > > Compiled with: DNSMAP LDAPMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 > > MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS > > PIPELINING SASLv2 SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB > > USE_LDAP_INIT XDEBUG > > > > When I try to build and install mail/mimedefang from ports (version is > > 2.57), I get (modulo wrapping) > > > > cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -pthread -o mimedefang mimedefang.o > > drop_privs_threaded.o utils.o rm_r.o syslog-fac.o /usr/lib/libmilter.a > > -lpthread > > > > /usr/lib/libmilter.a(errstring.o)(.text+0xd6): In function `sm_errstring': > > : undefined reference to `ldap_err2string' > > The undefined reference is apparently in libmilter.a and it seems (Google > again) that the ldap_err2string symbol comes from the openldap library. Is > it possible that the build of libmilter is not picking up libldap > from /usr/local/lib? OK, this seems to be the same problem that was reported in (at least) PR ports/95646 and PR ports/95647 (both ports which would not build with an LDAP-enabled core sendmail). The solution proposed in ports/95646 was to make the various Sendmail LDAP options in /etc/make.conf invisible to libmilter. This certainly works - it prevents a build of libmilter passing the LDAP flags through to libsm at this line in the build of /usr/src/lib/libmilter: cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/src/lib/libmilter/../../contrib/sendmail/src -I/usr/src/lib/libmilter/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I. -DNOT_SENDMAIL -Dsm_snprintf=snprintf -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNETINET6 -I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 -c /usr/src/lib/libmilter/../../contrib/sendmail/libsm/errstring.c libsm/errstring.c refers to ldap_err2string in a conditional testing on LDAPMAP. ldap_err2string is declared in the #included /usr/local/lib/ldap.h. (I didn't search for where it's defined). It looks as though the problem is less with ports, and more with a subtle breakage of the core sendmail when built with LDAP - specifically in building libsm/errstring.c as part of the libmilter build. Is pretending that LDAPMAP is not set while compiling libmilter the right solution? Should the necessary changes to /etc/make.conf be documented somewhere or even automated in some way? I have spent five days trying to solve this. I have rewritten my /etc/make.conf as follows: WANT_OPENLDAP_SASL=true SENDMAIL_CFLAGS = -I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS = -L/usr/local/lib SENDMAIL_LDADD = -lsasl2 .if ${.CURDIR} != /usr/src/lib/libmilter SENDMAIL_CFLAGS += -DLDAPMAP SENDMAIL_LDADD += -lldap -llber .endif This works but it Just Feels Wrong. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 12:35:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5344816A415 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@solink.ru) Received: from mail.academ.org (mail.academ.org [81.1.226.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C388943D7B for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:35:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@solink.ru) Received: from mail.academ.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.academ.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2F6256EA7 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:16:18 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from bocha.solink.office (solink.academ.org [85.118.228.14]) by mail.academ.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CD5256E4E for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:16:17 +0700 (NOVST) From: Bachilo Dmitry Organization: Solink Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:16:18 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610171816.18643.root@solink.ru> X-AV-Checked: ClamAV Subject: Re: Automated installations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:35:33 -0000 > Hello FreeBSD fans, > > I am in search of an tool for automated installations. SOmething like > Kickstart or Autoyast for Linux - just the BSD-able version ;-) > > Is anybody aware of such a tool that I perhaps overlooked or anybody > perhaps currently developing one ? > > Best regards > > Nils Valentin Well, there are already a sysinstall and GUI-Sysinstall is on it's way. Also, there are such things like PC-BSD and DesktopBSD. While PC-BSD is kind of fork (with it's pbi subsystem), DesktopBSD is just preconfigured FreeBSD with nice graphical user-friendly installer and some additional soft like graphical pakage manager, wi-fi network configurator, user-mounting GUI tool and so on. Maybe you should try DesktopBSD? ------------------------------------ Best regards, Bachilo Dmitry. www.allunix.ru - Russian UNIX portal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 12:36:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B510B16A40F for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD2443D69 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:36:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9HCaJ0s003065 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:36:23 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9HCatpA013405; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:36:56 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9HCasUS012900; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:36:54 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:36:54 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Svein Halvor Halvorsen Message-ID: <20061017123654.GE68213@gothmog.pc> References: <45340E01.5080709@lvor.halvorsen.cc> <20061016231947.GA25692@epia2.farid-hajji.net> <453421C5.2020801@lvor.halvorsen.cc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <453421C5.2020801@lvor.halvorsen.cc> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.594, required 5, AWL -0.20, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: questions@freebsd.org, cpghost Subject: Re: python-mode in emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:36:50 -0000 On 2006-10-17 02:20, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: >cpghost wrote: >> Well, it doesn't cause any harm to add to your ~/.emacs >> >> ;; Add python-mode >> (autoload 'python-mode "python-mode" "Python editing mode." t) >> (setq auto-mode-alist >> (cons '("\\.py$" . python-mode) auto-mode-alist)) >> (add-hook 'python-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock) >> >>> Are there any way to get emacs to automatically read files in this >>> directory? Am I missing something? Shouldn't the ports system by >>> default be setup in a way that this would work? >> >> I don't know. But having Emacs auto-load every mode from there >> doesn't seem a good idea. And the port can't do that either, since >> it's a per-user decision. > > I wasn't suggesting emacs autoload every mode, but rather that emacs > simply read the files, and offer me the choice of using modes defines > in such files. > > E.g. do the same as > $emacs -l /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/python-mode.el > > If I start emacs by just typing "emacs", and then use "esc-x" > python-mode is not an option. However, If I use the -l option, > python-mode is not automatically loaded, but emacs will then offer me > the option of loading it later. > > Your suggested additions to my .emacs file, seems to work, though. The newer versions of GNU Emacs include `python-mode' in the core Emacs distribution, so you might want to try the editors/emacs-devel port :) The distfiles of this port are generated from CVS snapshots of Emacs 22.X, which is going to be the next release of GNU Emacs. This version of Emacs still has a few rough edges (i.e. the GTK+ UI crashes on FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT), but it has worked remarkably well for several months here. If you give it a try, please let me know, as all the testing we can get is nice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 12:37:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B576D16A518 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:37:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C627443D72 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:37:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so281211nfc for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:37:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=W33DybEo58q9j/M0zyF6AKajwETZFnUpwomQLCcrTG3mGRWewSKcwUXLEsqOA66NFXfxAn7uJGDk9qZaXSe8X/X/UwYJI5XW/DI9Wo3uF82kDujWrd6c3b1faj7oEuYbbPKQ1Fme2CEe2vT40JnMdYVMEuH6TkL62d7b5rzJYY4= Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr1443730nfi; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0530 From: Subhro To: "Michael S" In-Reply-To: <20061016114030.33860.qmail@web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061016114030.33860.qmail@web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Flash Plugin not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:37:06 -0000 Hello Michael, Thanks for the info. This is just for the help of others. The commands present there helped me and flash is currently working fine for me. Thanks Subhro On 10/16/06, Michael S wrote: > I followed the link below (just executed the commands, > I can't read Portuguese) and everything worked fine. > http://www.unixlike.com.br/?p=%2081 > > --- Subhro wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I am running FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE on i386 > > hardware. I have installed > > linux-firefox and linux-flashplugin from the ports > > collection. The > > same is iterated by pkg_info. > > > > [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ pkg_info | grep flash > > linux-flashplugin-7.0r68 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI > > Plugin > > [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ linux-firefox > > [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ pkg_info | grep firefox > > firefox-1.5.0.7,1 Web browser based on the browser > > portion of Mozilla > > linux-firefox-1.5.0.7 Web browser based on the > > browser portion of Mozilla > > > > However when I am trying to open any sites from > > linux-firefox, the > > embedded flash applications are not displayed. Also > > the browser > > complains about missing plugin. > > > > I have checked the installed plugins by typing > > about:plugins. But > > there is no flash plugin displayed there either. > > > > Where am I going wrong? > > > > Thanks and Best Regards > > Subhro > > > > -- > > Subhro Kar > > Security Engineer > > iViZ Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd. > > Dhanshree Bldg, 1st Floor > > Plot XI-16, Sector V > > Salt Lake City > > 700091 > > India > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- Subhro Kar Security Engineer iViZ Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd. Dhanshree Bldg, 1st Floor Plot XI-16, Sector V Salt Lake City 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 12:35:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EA516A40F for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill_maroney@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s36.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s36.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097D343D66 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:35:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill_maroney@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.161.26]) by bay0-omc3-s36.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:35:02 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:35:02 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.161.200 by by106fd.bay106.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:34:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.129.36.69] X-Originating-Email: [bill_maroney@hotmail.com] X-Sender: bill_maroney@hotmail.com From: "Bill Maroney" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:34:57 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2006 12:35:02.0408 (UTC) FILETIME=[AAA1E080:01C6F1E8] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:38:06 +0000 Subject: Is nForce5 supported? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:35:07 -0000 Hi, I was wondering if anyone could please tell me whether the nForce5 series chipsets is going to be supported in FreeBSD in the near future? Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Thousands of jobs, millions of opportunities at seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau&_t=757263760&_r=Hotmail_EndText_Oct06&_m=EXT From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 12:48:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A9916A4E8 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F6D43D46 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:48:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GZoMr-0006Ae-U4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:48:25 +0200 Received: from c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.147.85.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:48:25 +0200 Received: from jdarnold by c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:48:25 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonathan Arnold Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:47:27 -0400 Lines: 13 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060804) Sender: news Subject: Installing and upgrading ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:48:38 -0000 I'm confused - what is sort of the consensus pick for "best" port tool? Usually, I just cd /usr/ports/xxxx/yyyy and do a 'make install clean', but I've also tried portmanager and portupgrade, but I'm not sure when to prefer one to another. Should I stick with one? Will mixing & matching confuse things? portupgrade seems to take a lot longer than portmanager. And where does the pkgdb command fit in? -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 13:05:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E704416A47C for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:05:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob.middaugh@comcast.net) Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net (rwcrmhc15.comcast.net [204.127.192.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A4843D99 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:04:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob.middaugh@comcast.net) Received: from freebsd (c7144428.state.nj.us[199.20.68.40]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id <20061017130352m15008qr37e>; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:03:52 +0000 From: "Bob M." To: Subhro In-Reply-To: References: <20061016114030.33860.qmail@web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:06:06 -0400 Message-Id: <1161090366.26145.39.camel@freebsd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Michael S , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Flash Plugin not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob.middaugh@comcast.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:05:09 -0000 On Tue, 2006-10-17 at 18:07 +0530, Subhro wrote: > Hello Michael, > > Thanks for the info. This is just for the help of others. The commands > present there helped me and flash is currently working fine for me. > > Thanks > Subhro > > On 10/16/06, Michael S wrote: > > I followed the link below (just executed the commands, > > I can't read Portuguese) and everything worked fine. > > http://www.unixlike.com.br/?p=%2081 > > > > --- Subhro wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I am running FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE on i386 > > > hardware. I have installed > > > linux-firefox and linux-flashplugin from the ports > > > collection. The > > > same is iterated by pkg_info. > > > > > > [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ pkg_info | grep flash > > > linux-flashplugin-7.0r68 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI > > > Plugin > > > [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ linux-firefox > > > [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ pkg_info | grep firefox > > > firefox-1.5.0.7,1 Web browser based on the browser > > > portion of Mozilla > > > linux-firefox-1.5.0.7 Web browser based on the > > > browser portion of Mozilla > > > > > > However when I am trying to open any sites from > > > linux-firefox, the > > > embedded flash applications are not displayed. Also > > > the browser > > > complains about missing plugin. > > > > > > I have checked the installed plugins by typing > > > about:plugins. But > > > there is no flash plugin displayed there either. > > > > > > Where am I going wrong? > > > > > > Thanks and Best Regards > > > Subhro I think it was Chris Hobbs who was nice enough to translate to english: http://altbit.org/pseudorandom/unixlike_translation.txt fwiw, Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 13:09:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20FA516A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [80.253.10.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8EF43D7D for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:08:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from stat.sem.ipt.ru ([192.168.12.1] helo=ipt.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZofr-000BVN-Lo; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:08:03 +0400 Received: from bsam by ipt.ru with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZofr-0000Oe-JN; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:08:03 +0400 To: Michael S References: <20061016141356.91741.qmail@web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:08:03 +0400 In-Reply-To: <20061016141356.91741.qmail@web88303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> (Michael S.'s message of "Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:13:56 -0400 (EDT)") Message-ID: <69235468@srv.sem.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subhro , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Acroread not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:09:17 -0000 On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Michael S wrote: > My setup is quite similar: > linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.99.902_7 XFree86 libraries, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Linux binary > linux-aspell-0.50.4.1_1 Spelling checker with better > logic than ispell (linux versi > linux-atk-1.9.1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 > binary > linux-expat-1.95.8 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat > XML-parsing library > linux-flashplugin-7.0r63_1 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI > Plugin > linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_5 Linux/i386 binary of > Fontconfig > linux-glib2-2.6.6 Version 2.X Linux/i386 binary port > of GLib > linux-gtk2-2.6.10 GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux > binary > linux-jpeg-6b.34 RPM of the JPEG lib > linux-openmotif-2.2.4_2 Motif toolkit Linux libraries > linux-pango-1.8.1 Linux pango binary > linux-png-1.2.8_2 RPM of the PNG lib > linux-realplayer-10.0.7.785.20060201 Linux RealPlayer > 10 from RealNetworks > linux-tiff-3.7.1 TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary > linux-xorg-libs-6.8.2_5 Xorg libraries, linux binaries ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > linux_base-fc-4_8 Base set of packages needed in > Linux mode (for i386/amd64) > linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_4 A wrapper allowing use > of linux-plugins with native applica > linuxthreads-2.2.3_21 POSIX pthreads implementation > using rfork to generate kerne Those packages/ports should be installed both. They install files with same names. If you try to uninstall one of them it'll delete files from another. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 13:14:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA9516A417 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:14:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from mail45.e.nsc.no (mail45.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B5843D72 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:14:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from [62.16.189.169] (062016189169.customer.alfanett.no [62.16.189.169]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail45.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k9HDEd2d005096 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:14:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4534D73E.3090103@netscape.net> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:14:38 +0200 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Ports References: <20061016151343.2d6a7030@server25.gelita.swe> <70e8236f0610160731v12f644bv6ccbb118fb9a8cf1@mail.gmail.com> <20061016223754.16a13f46@devil.troback.com> <20061017135955.7cfb0daf@server25.gelita.swe> In-Reply-To: <20061017135955.7cfb0daf@server25.gelita.swe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Nvidia on CURRENT... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:14:44 -0000 Anders Troback wrote: > On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:25:05 +0400 > "Andrew Pantyukhin" wrote: >> I have it working fine on my current. Have you disabled agp in >> kernel config? > > No, should I? Running on GENERIC! It's a little easier to try it out by putting this line into /boot/device.hints: hint.agp.0.disabled="1" -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 13:30:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCB716A416 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:30:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gunnut@2ainfo.it) Received: from MTA070A.interbusiness.it (MTA070A.interbusiness.it [85.37.17.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D75C43D82 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:30:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gunnut@2ainfo.it) Received: from host169-208-static.37-85-b.business.telecomitalia.it (HELO [192.168.1.2]) ([85.37.208.169]) by MTA070A.interbusiness.it with ESMTP; 17 Oct 2006 15:30:43 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAE92NEUN Message-ID: <4534DB69.1000802@2ainfo.it> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:32:25 +0200 From: Filippo Moretti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20061016 SeaMonkey/1.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Problem updating mplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:30:46 -0000 When I tried portupgrade mplayer it failed with the following message ==> mplayer-0.99.8_5 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/win32/win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8_1,1 - not found ===> Verifying reinstall for /usr/local/lib/win32/win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8_1,1 in /usr/ports/multimedia/win32-codecs ===> win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8_1,1 is forbidden: Remote code execution: http://vuxml.FreeBSD.org/24f6b1eb-43d5-11db-81e1-000e0c2e438a.html. *** Error code 1 What can be done to solve this problem sincerely Filippo PS 6.1-STABLE o i386 arch From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 13:58:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC8E16A412 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:58:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94CC43D5C for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:58:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9HDvrFe007607 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:57:55 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9HDwU6b056332; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:58:30 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9HDwTPv056331; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:58:29 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:58:29 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Simon Gao Message-ID: <20061017135829.GA56234@gothmog.pc> References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.592, required 5, AWL -0.19, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:58:16 -0000 On 2006-10-16 10:45, Simon Gao wrote: > I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to > upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. > > All I was told is that I need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, > this is not the case with Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does > not matter that much, you can always keep your system up to date if you > like. 'Clean' upgrades can be done with FreeBSD too. I have installed machines with 4.7-RELEASE and then upgraded them to 5.X, 6.X and finally 7.0-CURRENT a few times. It's not easier (or faster) than a straight installation of a 7.0-CURRENT snapshot from `ftp.FreeBSD.org', but it's certainly possible. > Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. This is probably true. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 14:06:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A8416A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FDF43D53 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:06:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9HE629x009051 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:06:03 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9HE6dkh067828; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:06:39 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9HE6bWF067827; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:06:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:06:37 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Alex Zbyslaw Message-ID: <20061017140637.GB56234@gothmog.pc> References: <45340E01.5080709@lvor.halvorsen.cc> <45341414.5010704@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45341414.5010704@dial.pipex.com> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.592, required 5, AWL -0.19, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Svein Halvor Halvorsen , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: python-mode in emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:06:38 -0000 On 2006-10-17 00:21, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > >Emacs doesn't seem to load files in /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp > >installed by ports. [...] > > In emacs do "ESC-x describe-variable load-path" which tells you where > emacs is looking. Mine is > > ("/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/site-lisp" > "/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp" "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/leim" > "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp" > "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/toolbar" > "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/textmodes" > "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/progmodes" > "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/play" > "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/obsolete" > "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/net" > "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/mail" > "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/language" > "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/international" > "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/gnus" > "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/eshell" > "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/emulation" > "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/emacs-lisp" > "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/calendar") > > and as you can see second entry is "/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp" > > Assuming it is missing for you, then you could add something like this > to your .emacs > > (set-variable 'load-path (append '("/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp") > load-path)) > > but that sticks it at the end, so anything there won't override > defaults, which is not so good. FWIW, one way to add a path to the beginning of the `load-path' list is: (add-to-list 'load-path "/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp") The `add-to-list' function can also append stuff to a list by: (add-to-list 'load-path "/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp" t) See the documentation of `add-to-list' for more details :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 14:31:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EB816A412 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:31:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D71F43D4C for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:31:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 31396 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2006 00:31:03 +1000 Received: from 124-168-3-158.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (124.168.3.158) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 18 Oct 2006 00:31:03 +1000 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:30:59 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: Filippo Moretti Message-ID: <20061018003059.11deef50@localhost> In-Reply-To: <4534DB69.1000802@2ainfo.it> References: <4534DB69.1000802@2ainfo.it> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.2 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Problem updating mplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:31:05 -0000 On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:32:25 +0200 Filippo Moretti wrote: > ===> Verifying reinstall for > /usr/local/lib/win32/win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8_1,1 in > /usr/ports/multimedia/win32-codecs > ===> win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8_1,1 is forbidden: Remote code execution: > http://vuxml.FreeBSD.org/24f6b1eb-43d5-11db-81e1-000e0c2e438a.html. > *** Error code 1 > What can be done to solve this problem > sincerely Hi Filippo, a) you can work with the win32-codecs team to solve the remote code execution vulnerability b) you can be brave, reckless and probably 0wn3d soon by disabling the vulnerability checks and upgrading anyway (dont know how to do this, sorry) c) you can keep the slightly older port .... but it seems it is still vulnerable: $ sudo portaudit [...] Affected package: win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8,1 Type of problem: win32-codecs -- multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: d) you can uninstall win32-codecs :) other options may be available, but i can't think of them atm :) B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome RTFM and STFW before anything bad happens. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 14:47:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BD916A416 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:47:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9985243D58 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:47:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so2004031wxc for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.33.10 with SMTP id g10mr13859245wxg; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h13sm1301190wxd.2006.10.17.07.47.05; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71EC7B81C; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss.seibercom.net [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71A5B819; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:47:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:47:25 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom.NET In-Reply-To: References: X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20061017104115.B2E4.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.27 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: Installing and upgrading ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:47:09 -0000 On Tuesday October 17, 2006 at 08:47:27 (AM) Jonathan Arnold wrote: > I'm confused - what is sort of the consensus pick for "best" port > tool? Usually, I just cd /usr/ports/xxxx/yyyy and do a 'make install clean', > but I've also tried portmanager and portupgrade, but I'm not sure when to > prefer one to another. Should I stick with one? Will mixing & matching > confuse things? portupgrade seems to take a lot longer than portmanager. > And where does the pkgdb command fit in? You could always do a 'man pkgdb' to get information regarding that utility. As far as 'portmanager' vs portupgrade' go, I think that it really boils down to your own preference. I usually prefer 'portmanager'; however, I still use 'portupgrade' on occasion. There is no know problem that I am aware of that arises from using one and then the other on you system. If you really want to rebuild your system applications I feel that 'portmanager -f -u' probably does a more through job than 'portupgrade'; but again that is just my opinion. -- Gerard "It is not the OS's job to stop you from shooting your foot. If you so choose to do so, then it is OS's job to deliver Mr. Bullet to Mr Foot in the most efficient way it knows." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 15:13:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B651E16A54D for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A941643D5C for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:13:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so323647nfc for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:13:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=b3qvxfTbOOhXW5keYrZJZyaCHPbOUkclv5b+3FOlaRBWR/thrP0ijHjc81IqzXW60lHmluKMTZcGZuHUL/n1pI8CcJWgzDAe8IUd/T30qlXH7zJpDWLrnGpEfib+77qSVB45ytE+lTAuLxamibiDyLRC1eVhjDEFapwzeW3MCyA= Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr1693861nfk; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.203.16 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:13:05 -0700 From: "Jeff Mohler" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20061017135829.GA56234@gothmog.pc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <20061017135829.GA56234@gothmog.pc> Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:13:08 -0000 > > Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. --- Linux clearly supports many more bugs than FreeBSD as well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 15:15:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BDE16A415 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from sirian.hst.org.za (sirian.hst.org.za [209.203.2.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A8F43D53 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:15:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from localhost (localhost.hst.org.za [127.0.0.1]) by sirian.hst.org.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD9A31C7F8 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:17:45 +0200 (SAST) Received: from sirian.hst.org.za ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sirian.hst.org.za [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 38911-03 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:17:45 +0200 (SAST) Received: by sirian.hst.org.za (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 133B731C7F1; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:17:45 +0200 (SAST) Received: from sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) by sirian.hst.org.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550C831C7BD for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:17:44 +0200 (SAST) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:17:26 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610171717.26640.jonathan@hst.org.za> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on sirian.hst.org.za X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.61 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hst.org.za Subject: Base sendmail: undefined symbol in libmilter when -DLDAPMAP set in make.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:15:26 -0000 This summarises the conversation I have had with myself on the list over the last few days: I'm not sure whether this is really a question or a potential PR. I am running FreeBSD-6.1-RELEASE-p5 (cvsup on 6 September). One of the source files for a rebuild of /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/libmilter is /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/libsm/errstring.c. If SENDMAIL_CFLAGS in /etc/make.conf contains -DLDAPMAP (and SENDMAIL_LDADD contains "-lldap -llber") when libmilter is rebuilt, LDAPMAP enables a conditional compilation in errstring.c of a call to ldap_err2string. The resulting libmilter.a contains an undefined reference to that symbol, which prevents building some ports which use milters (at least mail/mimedefang as per my experience, mail/sentinel as per PR ports/95647 and security/amavisd-milter as per PR ports/95646). There is a suggested fix under ports/95646, which is to ensure that when building libmilter, the SENDMAIL_CFLAGS and SENDMAIL_LDADD do *not* contain -DLDAPMAP and -lldap -llber respectively. I have used the following in /etc/make.conf to do this: SENDMAIL_CFLAGS = -I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS = -L/usr/local/lib SENDMAIL_LDADD = -lsasl2 .if ${.CURDIR} != /usr/src/lib/libmilter SENDMAIL_CFLAGS += -DLDAPMAP SENDMAIL_LDADD += -lldap -llber .endif It appears to work but it does seem... less than elegant. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 15:20:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1188816A40F for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:20:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F9A43D6E for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:20:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 24276 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2006 15:20:26 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Oct 2006 15:20:26 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 4B1BB28467; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:20:25 -0400 (EDT) To: Tang Ho Yim References: <20061016042757.21328.qmail@web35814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:20:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20061016042757.21328.qmail@web35814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (Tang Ho Yim's message of "Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:27:57 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <44pscr55qe.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: build minimum freebsd from make world X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:20:32 -0000 Tang Ho Yim writes: > Thanks Gilbert, > > So, anyone can make some DOC about this ? Go ahead. > Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Tang Ho Yim writes: > >> I have already install the minimum FreeBSD 6.1. Now, I would like to know how can I build & install the same minimum FreeBSD 6.1 from make world ? > > I think that NODOC is enough to do it these days. > > Even that is usually only worthwhile for an expert > tuning a pared-down system, though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 15:28:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A7B16A4D2 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65A843D5D for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:27:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 24241 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2006 15:27:44 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Oct 2006 15:27:44 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 857F728430; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:27:43 -0400 (EDT) To: gtsy@mail.ru References: <1161037958.21114.4.camel@savs.home> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:27:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1161037958.21114.4.camel@savs.home> (Stroganov A. V.'s message of "Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:32:38 +0400") Message-ID: <44lknf55e8.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: openoffice for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:28:05 -0000 "Stroganov A. V." writes: > Hello > > I've FreeBSD 6.2 prerelease for amd64. When i start OOo, which i > installed using package from Good-Day, these messages are printed: > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libstdc++.so.6" not found, required > by "javaldx" > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libstdc++.so.6" not found, required > by "pagein" > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libstdc++.so.6" not found, required > by "soffice.bin" > > Could you help? You have a package compiled for 7.x. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 15:28:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E0516A492 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D18343D9A for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:28:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 17 Oct 2006 11:27:55 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id MJM74689; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:27:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-203-219.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.203.219]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 17 Oct 2006 11:27:29 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,321,1157342400"; d="scan'208"; a="294923100:sNHT23462532" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17716.62978.449526.12593@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:25:54 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <20061017135829.GA56234@gothmog.pc> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090207.4534F614.0007,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.113/2006-07-26 Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:28:23 -0000 Jeff Mohler writes: > > > Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. > > Linux clearly supports many more bugs than FreeBSD as well. "Linux is closer to the bleeding edge; always remember that blood will usually be yours." Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 15:35:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5185516A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:35:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFF143DA9 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:34:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 1370 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2006 15:34:51 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Oct 2006 15:34:50 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 74D4628430; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:34:50 -0400 (EDT) To: "[LoN]Kamikaze" References: <4533DA97.8060303@gmx.de> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:34:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4533DA97.8060303@gmx.de> (Kamikaze's message of "Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:16:39 +0200") Message-ID: <44hcy3552d.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kldunload -f has no effect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:35:01 -0000 "[LoN]Kamikaze" writes: > I need to 'kldunload -f drm' in order to go into suspend to ram with > my thinkpad (suspend works fine with dri disabled). Unfortunately, > despite the claims of the manpage the '-f' flag does not alter the > behaviour of the kldunload tool. How do I get drm unloaded? Revisit your assumptions. [The -f flag gets passed to the module being unloaded, which can still refuse to unload if it needs to. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 15:47:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D379D16A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:47:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nathan@envieweb.net) Received: from envieweb.net (d221-69-17.commercial.cgocable.net [216.221.69.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF49A43DC4 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:44:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nathan@envieweb.net) Received: from mail.envieweb.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by envieweb.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9HFfg9Y001453; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:41:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nathan@envieweb.net) From: "Nathan Vidican" To: "Jeff Mohler" Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:41:42 -0400 Message-Id: <20061017153004.M88574@envieweb.net> In-Reply-To: References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <20061017135829.GA56234@gothmog.pc> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.20ip1 20031103 X-OriginatingIP: 216.8.159.129 (ips/nvidican) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -1.36 () ALL_TRUSTED MSG NOT MARKED AS SPAM X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 216.221.69.17 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:47:27 -0000 On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:13:05 -0700, Jeff Mohler wrote > > > Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. > --- > > Linux clearly supports many more bugs than FreeBSD as well. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions In one word... stability. Seriously, it's matured better than linux. Based on a codebase tested and depended upon for a lot longer than linux has been around. BSD is here to stay, even if linux is becoming more mainstream. Simply because it works, and has worked for years and years. FreeBSD is an entire operating system. The 'commands' you run (ie: shells, tar, disk utilities, filesystems, etc) are all bundled in the same code as one offering. Linux is a kernel, and a filesystem - each individual distribution therefore consisting of the kernel and various (mostly third- party/gnu) utilities to make up an O/S. Since there's no real central 'standard' set of utilities, each distribution varies not only in what it supports, how it works, but also where and how everything is configured from the install. FreeBSD on the other hand, stays tride and true with the same structure and only minimal variances (ie: sysinstall moved from /stand to /usr/sbin in version 6). On a more personal note, I prefer *BSD to linux because of the simplicity; too many variances between different linux distributions. With linux everyone and their brother has a different distribution out there; differing releases move configuration files to different places, each vendor makes their own package management, etc. I know the same could be argued about FreeBSD vs OpenBSD vs NetBSD, etc... but it's been my experience that linux has no real standard that all distros follow where *BSD does in terms of the userland, and let's face it - the userland is what we all have to work/live with the most. (just my two cents) -- Nathan Vidican nathan@envieweb.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 16:02:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561EA16A40F for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:02:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from smtp113.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp113.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C8B443D53 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:02:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: (qmail 98914 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2006 16:02:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.mikestammer.com) (mikestammer@sbcglobal.net@70.131.105.213 with login) by smtp113.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 2006 16:02:05 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1034D52 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:02:05 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from mail.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UFpjnJHBn9Uz for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:02:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81CD033 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:02:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4534FE77.3000201@mikestammer.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:01:59 -0500 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20061017104115.B2E4.GERARD@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20061017104115.B2E4.GERARD@seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Installing and upgrading ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:02:07 -0000 Gerard Seibert wrote: > On Tuesday October 17, 2006 at 08:47:27 (AM) Jonathan Arnold wrote: > >> I'm confused - what is sort of the consensus pick for "best" port >> tool? Usually, I just cd /usr/ports/xxxx/yyyy and do a 'make install clean', >> but I've also tried portmanager and portupgrade, but I'm not sure when to >> prefer one to another. Should I stick with one? Will mixing & matching >> confuse things? portupgrade seems to take a lot longer than portmanager. >> And where does the pkgdb command fit in? > > You could always do a 'man pkgdb' to get information regarding that > utility. As far as 'portmanager' vs portupgrade' go, I think that it > really boils down to your own preference. I usually prefer > 'portmanager'; however, I still use 'portupgrade' on occasion. There is > no know problem that I am aware of that arises from using one and then > the other on you system. If you really want to rebuild your system > applications I feel that 'portmanager -f -u' probably does a more > through job than 'portupgrade'; but again that is just my opinion. > > i find portmaster > all. give it a whirl. No dependencies, its actively maintained, etc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 16:07:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2228216A407 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:07:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from usleepless@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06A243D78 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:07:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from usleepless@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so953185uge for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:07:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IG/QoIDqibM4B/l6VKyoSSVwnieE6BGzlRLZHMkMf4uD073nZp7CNBLOZvFQqrjwNYr50qvvnU6dlzTIRlw/lx0gEH/SK3ww25Jwoua+INNqqHGF4FlBgFTfaO8Hx/43vij++odnWnzejZz8872i65A3E3yd48SQh22Uyzh+dZ0= Received: by 10.78.97.7 with SMTP id u7mr9586334hub; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.124.12 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:07:13 +0200 From: usleepless@gmail.com To: "[LoN]Kamikaze" In-Reply-To: <4533DA97.8060303@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4533DA97.8060303@gmx.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kldunload -f has no effect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:07:19 -0000 Hi Kamikaze, On 10/16/06, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: > I need to 'kldunload -f drm' in order to go into suspend to ram with my > thinkpad (suspend works fine with dri disabled). Unfortunately, despite the > claims of the manpage the '-f' flag does not alter the behaviour of the > kldunload tool. How do I get drm unloaded? are you sure you drm is loaded as a module instead of compiled into your kernel? regards, usleep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 16:20:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD52916A412 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:20:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7A643D67 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:20:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9HGJxFn009584 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:19:59 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [128.208.5.99] (nilakantha.cs.washington.edu [128.208.5.99]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9HGJxdG009698 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:19:59 -0700 Message-ID: <4535028F.4080805@u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:19:27 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <70e8236f0610151546y2e644b4ajb3f86de5bff6179a@mail.gmail.com> <70e8236f0610151557m441baf19ma2ffc0cf504f4edb@mail.gmail.com> <80f4f2b20610170417u18205402q2b9cb2eec97d70ec@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20610170417u18205402q2b9cb2eec97d70ec@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.266434, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.10.17.85443 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:20:02 -0000 Jim Stapleton wrote: >> yeah the ports make me fell in love with FreeBSD, the only thing that >> came >> close to FreeBSD ports is the gentoo portage, note came close but not >> really at par. >> > > yeah, portage wasn't bad, but it wasn't as clean as ports either. More > errors, more fixing. That's primarily because Gentoo is about the most bleeding edge you can get in the opensource OS 'market'. FBSD ports tend to be more tested and lag behind Gentoo portage quite a bit or do not offer some software packages that are available in FBSD. Also, I'm not sure when you guys tried Gentoo, but as of late (within the past ~1 year), the quality of the packages and system as an OS has improved quite a bit, in the sense that many stable items now install and work properly in the OS. Another off-topic comment I admit, but I thought it should be mentioned... I'd like to see portage in FBSD though, since ruby is pretty kludgy. Either that or a different means of recording package data and dependencies (been thinking of Perl for a while..). -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 17:16:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA5016A40F for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:16:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from schrodinger.com (thermidore.schrodinger.com [192.156.98.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C0643D6A for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:16:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from [192.156.98.12] (ithi.schrodinger.com [192.156.98.12]) by schrodinger.com (8.13.4/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k9HHGBma003867 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:16:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Message-ID: <45350FE9.1060303@schrodinger.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:16:25 -0700 From: Simon Gao User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060926) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <20061017135829.GA56234@gothmog.pc> <17716.62978.449526.12593@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <17716.62978.449526.12593@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:16:12 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > Jeff Mohler writes: > > >> > > Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. >> >> Linux clearly supports many more bugs than FreeBSD as well. >> > > "Linux is closer to the bleeding edge; always remember that > blood will usually be yours." > > > Robert Huff > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > With Gentoo, installing and upgrading to the most up-to-date packages is a choice up to end users. Gentoo is all about choice. One can definitely choose to use packages a few years behind. Simon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 17:19:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2425016A416 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:19:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A649B43D90 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:19:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so971949uge for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:19:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UWvTIcty/7fgu/9IKqG3/eci4zLUyC3QM+VHmfqULaoIIJ7tKv5ME4Q0JjpjYPoQiyd6bpU2IiR0gI5YyJttFy1mA980GOSTibdQzIx32ShwncqAUUB1DmbQe9qg5XIjwRag5/Nu4sZVjIj10diQ1xwWjUSyCEpKcVx46j3uE5Y= Received: by 10.67.119.13 with SMTP id w13mr10203910ugm; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.86.18 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20610171019n2719d671i42aa01884ee8ffeb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:19:38 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4535028F.4080805@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <70e8236f0610151546y2e644b4ajb3f86de5bff6179a@mail.gmail.com> <70e8236f0610151557m441baf19ma2ffc0cf504f4edb@mail.gmail.com> <80f4f2b20610170417u18205402q2b9cb2eec97d70ec@mail.gmail.com> <4535028F.4080805@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:19:50 -0000 > Also, I'm not sure when you guys tried Gentoo, but as of late (within > the past ~1 year), the quality of the packages and system as an OS has > improved quite a bit, in the sense that many stable items now install > and work properly in the OS. Another off-topic comment I admit, but I > thought it should be mentioned... I've been trying to deal with it for the past two months, on and off. OpenOffice would not compile, Xorg took a lot of tweaking and a few attempts, and a few other programs provided a bit of challange. Only KDE went more smoothly than it did in FBSD. > I'd like to see portage in FBSD though, since ruby is pretty kludgy. > Either that or a different means of recording package data and > dependencies (been thinking of Perl for a while..). Where does Ruby fit into this? To my knowledge, ports uses Perl to my knowledge, and Portage uses Python. And while I wouldn't mind a few of the portage features, such as about 10k more packages, and a few of the interface/display options, I'd still rather use FBSD any day. -Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 17:28:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A9D16A47B for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from schrodinger.com (thermidore.schrodinger.com [192.156.98.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C4B43D5D for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:28:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from [192.156.98.12] (ithi.schrodinger.com [192.156.98.12]) by schrodinger.com (8.13.4/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k9HHSQpI005209 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:28:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Message-ID: <453512C8.4030900@schrodinger.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:28:40 -0700 From: Simon Gao User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060926) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <20061017135829.GA56234@gothmog.pc> <20061017153004.M88574@envieweb.net> In-Reply-To: <20061017153004.M88574@envieweb.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:28:27 -0000 Nathan Vidican wrote: > > In one word... stability. Seriously, it's matured better than linux. Based > on a codebase tested and depended upon for a lot longer than linux has been > around. BSD is here to stay, even if linux is becoming more mainstream. > Simply because it works, and has worked for years and years. > > Probably true. > FreeBSD is an entire operating system. The 'commands' you run (ie: shells, > tar, disk utilities, filesystems, etc) are all bundled in the same code as > one offering. Linux is a kernel, and a filesystem - each individual > distribution therefore consisting of the kernel and various (mostly third- > party/gnu) utilities to make up an O/S. Since there's no real > central 'standard' set of utilities, each distribution varies not only in > what it supports, how it works, but also where and how everything is > configured from the install. FreeBSD on the other hand, stays tride and true > with the same structure and only minimal variances (ie: sysinstall moved > from /stand to /usr/sbin in version 6). > > Linux is all about choice. Yes, there is no single filesystem to stick with Linux. You have ext2/ext3, reiserfs, jfs, xfs you can use. However, each filesystem has its own advantages and disadvantages. Depending on what's needed, one can have different filesystems on one machine. If one looks for a whole OS, Solaris, AIX, OSX, or even Windows will work better at least you do not have to worry about device support problem. Even though there are many Linux distributions, but Linux core pacakges are the mostly the same. The differences are mainly in window manager and GUI applications. No matter which Linux distribution, kernel 2.6.16 is always the same. When it comes to X window, it's xorg across the board. > On a more personal note, I prefer *BSD to linux because of the simplicity; > too many variances between different linux distributions. With linux > everyone and their brother has a different distribution out there; differing > releases move configuration files to different places, each vendor makes > their own package management, etc. I know the same could be argued about > FreeBSD vs OpenBSD vs NetBSD, etc... but it's been my experience that linux > has no real standard that all distros follow where *BSD does in terms of the > userland, and let's face it - the userland is what we all have to work/live > with the most. > > (just my two cents) > -- > Nathan Vidican > nathan@envieweb.net > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 17:57:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD47316A412 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:57:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@lambda.cultofray.net) Received: from lambda.cultofray.net (lambda.cultofray.net [80.68.95.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AAF43D45 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:57:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ray@lambda.cultofray.net) Received: from lambda.cultofray.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lambda.cultofray.net (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k9HHveZb020517; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:57:40 -0400 Received: (from ray@localhost) by lambda.cultofray.net (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id k9HHvcBX020516; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:57:38 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:57:36 -0400 From: Raymond Pasco To: Garrett Cooper Message-ID: <20061017175735.GA20487@lambda.cultofray.net> References: <70e8236f0610151546y2e644b4ajb3f86de5bff6179a@mail.gmail.com> <70e8236f0610151557m441baf19ma2ffc0cf504f4edb@mail.gmail.com> <80f4f2b20610170417u18205402q2b9cb2eec97d70ec@mail.gmail.com> <4535028F.4080805@u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4535028F.4080805@u.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:57:42 -0000 On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 09:19:27AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > I'd like to see portage in FBSD though, since ruby is pretty kludgy. You'd like to port a knockoff of ports to a system that has ports? (also, not sure what you're referring to with your 'ruby' comment.) In my experience, people develop on Linux and Linux distributions more, just because it's the current `popular' system. FreeBSD is still (imo) better, though, despite its smaller following. -- Raymond Pasco Mobile: +1 860 335 5022 (SMS only please) "Our name is Legion, for we are many." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 17:57:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7375716A407 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CEFB43D49 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:57:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Oct 2006 17:57:52 -0000 Received: from vpn-cl-162-212.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (EHLO [141.3.162.212]) [141.3.162.212] by mail.gmx.net (mp040) with SMTP; 17 Oct 2006 19:57:52 +0200 X-Authenticated: #5465401 Message-ID: <453519F6.8020502@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:59:18 +0200 From: "[LoN]Kamikaze" Organization: Lords of Nightmare User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061015) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: usleepless@gmail.com References: <4533DA97.8060303@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kldunload -f has no effect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:57:54 -0000 usleepless@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Kamikaze, > > On 10/16/06, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: >> I need to 'kldunload -f drm' in order to go into suspend to ram with my >> thinkpad (suspend works fine with dri disabled). Unfortunately, >> despite the >> claims of the manpage the '-f' flag does not alter the behaviour of the >> kldunload tool. How do I get drm unloaded? > > are you sure you drm is loaded as a module instead of compiled into your > kernel? > Yes I'm certain, it's listed by kldstat after all. Also if I deactivate dri, it doesn't get loaded and I can suspend/resume just fine. If I suspend with dri enabled, the system resumes, but as soon as I switch back to X, X hangs (and shows random screen garbage). The rest of the system still works, though. I can ssh into the box and work on it, as if nothing happened. Only if I try to kill X, the whole system will stop responding. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 18:00:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3AC16A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif2-0-0-cust107.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.104.168.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5ED43D53 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:00:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from fenrirw.private.submonkey.net ([192.168.10.23]) by shrike.submonkey.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZtEL-000MkJ-83; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:00:16 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.5.060620 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:59:54 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: William Tracy , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? Thread-Index: AcbyFgyGSuEirl4JEduIqQAUUSJIlg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:00:19 -0000 On 15/10/06 23:26, "William Tracy" wrote: > Okay. > > I've installed FreeBSD on my desktop. I got KDE working, and Amor is > running so I have a little daemon sitting on my window. I can mount my > USB card reader and open the pictures from my digital camera in Gimp. > I can browse the web in Firefox. I even compiled my own kernel so that > I'm all 1337. :-) > > Overall, I like FreeBSD--the kernel build process felt a lot smoother > than Linux, the /boot and /sys file heirarchies makes more sense to me > than /boot and /usr/src under Linux, and the /dev heirarchy seems > sane, though it's still pretty alien to me. So far, everything I do > under Linux I can do under FreeBSD. > > FreeBSD is nice, but I haven't seen anything really *compelling* about > it. FreeBSD might be more stable as a server, but for my desktop Linux > has proven more than stable enough. (X crashes sometimes, but FreeBSD > can't really fix that.) The extra file flags look intersting, but > otherwise I haven't seen anything that I can do under FreeBSD that I > can't with Linux. > > So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD > can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back. It'll come. Day by day, and slowly at first, but one day you will go back and it will feel wrong. Ceri -- That must be wonderful! I don't understand it at all. -- Moliere From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 18:14:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A58F16A407 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:14:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F39043D6B for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:14:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9HIE4hS011997 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:14:04 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [128.208.5.99] (nilakantha.cs.washington.edu [128.208.5.99]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9HIE45C008479 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:14:04 -0700 Message-ID: <45351D40.8090908@u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:13:20 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <70e8236f0610151546y2e644b4ajb3f86de5bff6179a@mail.gmail.com> <70e8236f0610151557m441baf19ma2ffc0cf504f4edb@mail.gmail.com> <80f4f2b20610170417u18205402q2b9cb2eec97d70ec@mail.gmail.com> <4535028F.4080805@u.washington.edu> <20061017175735.GA20487@lambda.cultofray.net> In-Reply-To: <20061017175735.GA20487@lambda.cultofray.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.266434, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.10.17.103942 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:14:18 -0000 Raymond Pasco wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 09:19:27AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > >> I'd like to see portage in FBSD though, since ruby is pretty kludgy. >> > You'd like to port a knockoff of ports to a system that has ports? > (also, not sure what you're referring to with your 'ruby' comment.) > > In my experience, people develop on Linux and Linux distributions more, > just because it's the current `popular' system. FreeBSD is still (imo) > better, though, despite its smaller following. > No; you guys misunderstood what I meant... Unless you do make install / deinstall for all your ports in your system and magically know when and which ports to upgrade when the time comes to upgrade them, you're probably using portupdate / portinstall, or one of the ruby based metapackages (portman for instance). Having less packages on a system in order to keep it up to date is key in many cases, and I believe that perl is a more widely used language than ruby is. That's why I made the comment I made. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 18:17:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8562C16A51B for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:17:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout7.cac.washington.edu (mxout7.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60FA43D76 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:17:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout7.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9HIHMBX010187 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:17:22 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [128.208.5.99] (nilakantha.cs.washington.edu [128.208.5.99]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9HIHMI2009384 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:17:22 -0700 Message-ID: <45351E06.6000709@u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:16:38 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <70e8236f0610151546y2e644b4ajb3f86de5bff6179a@mail.gmail.com> <70e8236f0610151557m441baf19ma2ffc0cf504f4edb@mail.gmail.com> <80f4f2b20610170417u18205402q2b9cb2eec97d70ec@mail.gmail.com> <4535028F.4080805@u.washington.edu> <80f4f2b20610171019n2719d671i42aa01884ee8ffeb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20610171019n2719d671i42aa01884ee8ffeb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.266434, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.10.17.105442 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:17:23 -0000 Jim Stapleton wrote: >> Also, I'm not sure when you guys tried Gentoo, but as of late (within >> the past ~1 year), the quality of the packages and system as an OS has >> improved quite a bit, in the sense that many stable items now install >> and work properly in the OS. Another off-topic comment I admit, but I >> thought it should be mentioned... > > I've been trying to deal with it for the past two months, on and off. > OpenOffice would not compile, Xorg took a lot of tweaking and a few > attempts, and a few other programs provided a bit of challange. Only > KDE went more smoothly than it did in FBSD. Hmmm... maybe it's just my playing around with Linux in general before I started using FreeBSD on my servers, but it didn't really seem like that much of a challenge for me. Then again, each user's experience differs, and maybe that's the best gem of advice I can give the original poster of this message when he asked us to 'wow' him. >> I'd like to see portage in FBSD though, since ruby is pretty kludgy. >> Either that or a different means of recording package data and >> dependencies (been thinking of Perl for a while..). > > Where does Ruby fit into this? To my knowledge, ports uses Perl to my > knowledge, and Portage uses Python. > Read the email I just wrote in reply to Raymond (timestamp should be shortly after this email). > And while I wouldn't mind a few of the portage features, such as about > 10k more packages, and a few of the interface/display options, I'd > still rather use FBSD any day. Not saying I don't feel the same either, but the interface for updating ports could be better.. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 18:33:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CDC16A412 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:33:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Viraj.Dixit@CityofPaloAlto.org) Received: from xmail.cityofpaloalto.org (cerberus.city.palo-alto.ca.us [199.33.32.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EF743D88 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:33:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Viraj.Dixit@CityofPaloAlto.org) Received: from xpo.staff.copa ([172.17.1.12]) by xmail.cityofpaloalto.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:33:27 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6F21A.BB50D49E" Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:33:25 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Database error Thread-Index: AcbyGss9LZNz1izNQUao9oFQwdkpHQ== From: "Dixit, Viraj" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2006 18:33:27.0191 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC7B5A70:01C6F21A] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Database error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:33:39 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6F21A.BB50D49E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone knows what this error means running Informix Database on BSD. I am not familiar with this app. Thanks, VJ Following is the error message. Thanks. ******************************* END OF CHAIN BASE =3D ROOT DSET =3D DS-SUBS-MSTR SEARCH ITEM =3D DS-SUB VALUE =3D GL STATUS =3D 15 FFM =3D 1 FFD =3D 0 ERR =3D = 70 UserID: TKWOK Job#: #S14 Date: 10/16/06 Time: 134915 Can't find CLIENT entry in AU-AUDIT-MSTR TURBOIMAGE RESULT AT 0: RETURN STATUS=3D15 DBGET, MODE 2, ON AU-AUDIT-MSTR ON ROOT Invalid statement name or statement was not PREPAREd. (Error -481, ISAM 0) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6F21A.BB50D49E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 20:31:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CC316A407 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:31:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F6143D45 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:31:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GZvaL-0004ym-3W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:30:49 +0200 Received: from c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.147.85.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:30:49 +0200 Received: from jdarnold by c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:30:49 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonathan Arnold Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:29:49 -0400 Lines: 44 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060804) Sender: news Subject: Problems with USB Palm sync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:31:03 -0000 Has anyone had any luck using pilot-link to sync JPilot to a Palm device via the USB? I'm trying to sync my Handspring Visor and it just doesn't seem to be noticing it. I have the following in my /dev/usbd.conf file: device "Handspring Visor" devname "ugen[0-9]+" vendor 0x082d product 0x0100 release 0x0100 attach "chmod 0666 /dev/ugen*" as per the code that was in there for the coldsync. When I press the sync button on the cradle, these devices show up: crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 181 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 182 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0.1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 183 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0.2 And the following shows up in my dmesg: ugen0: Handspring Inc Handspring Visor, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 5 ugen0: at uhub6 port 4 (addr 5) disconnected All threads purged from ugen0.2 All threads purged from ugen0.1 All threads purged from ugen0 ugen0: detached But the pilot-link command fails immediately: $ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ugen0 -l Unable to bind to port: /dev/ugen0 Please use --help for more information Any ideas? I've googled all over the place, but I only see similiar questions. And the FreeBSD.README on the pilot-link web site seems to be misleading at best. -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 21:08:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA8816A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:08:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dprobd02.vailsys.com (dprobd02.vailsys.com [63.149.73.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D98F43D5C for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:08:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dfsfbd06.vail (dfsfbd06.vail [192.168.129.190]) by dprobd02.vailsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA19E8A5C9D for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:08:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dfwdamian.vail [192.168.129.233]) by dfsfbd06.vail (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D14323E9B for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:08:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dwiest@localhost.vail [127.0.0.1]) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9HL7fHD027773 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:07:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dwiest@localhost) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9HL7ekN023456 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:07:40 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dfwdamian.vail: dwiest set sender to dwiest@vailsys.com using -f Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:07:40 -0500 From: Damian Wiest Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061017210740.GB9251@dfwdamian.vail> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: Re: Problems with USB Palm sync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:08:58 -0000 On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 04:29:49PM -0400, Jonathan Arnold wrote: > Has anyone had any luck using pilot-link to sync JPilot to a Palm > device via the USB? I'm trying to sync my Handspring Visor and it just > doesn't seem to be noticing it. I have the following in my > /dev/usbd.conf file: > > device "Handspring Visor" > devname "ugen[0-9]+" > vendor 0x082d > product 0x0100 > release 0x0100 > attach "chmod 0666 /dev/ugen*" > > as per the code that was in there for the coldsync. When I press the > sync button on the cradle, these devices show up: > > crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 181 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 182 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0.1 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 183 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0.2 > > And the following shows up in my dmesg: > > ugen0: Handspring Inc Handspring Visor, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 5 > ugen0: at uhub6 port 4 (addr 5) disconnected > All threads purged from ugen0.2 > All threads purged from ugen0.1 > All threads purged from ugen0 > ugen0: detached > > But the pilot-link command fails immediately: > > $ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ugen0 -l > Unable to bind to port: /dev/ugen0 > Please use --help for more information > > Any ideas? I've googled all over the place, but I only see similiar > questions. And the FreeBSD.README on the pilot-link web site seems to > be misleading at best. > > -- > Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) > Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: > http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ > > UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. I've had success syncing my Palm OS based phone (SPH-i500 FWIW) to my laptop using jpilot with a USB connection. Do you have permissions to access /dev/ugen0? -Damian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 22:02:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F1F16A407 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:02:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amistry@am-productions.biz) Received: from mail.united-ware.com (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAEF743D45 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:01:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from amistry@am-productions.biz) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (cpe-24-210-75-119.columbus.res.rr.com [24.210.75.119]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.united-ware.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9HMHtXo053356 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:18:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from amistry@am-productions.biz) From: Anish Mistry Organization: AM Productions To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:01:36 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart16829542.u2yAZlI8SV"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200610171801.44321.amistry@am-productions.biz> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,J_CHICKENPOX_55, MYFREEBSD2,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/2039/Tue Oct 17 11:49:28 2006 on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Jonathan Arnold Subject: Re: Problems with USB Palm sync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:02:00 -0000 --nextPart16829542.u2yAZlI8SV Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 17 October 2006 16:29, Jonathan Arnold wrote: > Has anyone had any luck using pilot-link to sync JPilot to a Palm > device via the USB? I'm trying to sync my Handspring Visor and it > just doesn't seem to be noticing it. I have the following in my > /dev/usbd.conf file: =46irst you shouldn't be using usbd.conf. You should be using devd.conf=20 and devfs.rules. Disable usbd. Add to devd.conf: attach 0 { device-name "ugen[0-9]+"; match "vendor" "0x082d"; match "product" "0x0100"; match "release" "0x0100"; action "/usr/local/sbin/pilot-sync-ugen.sh $device-name"; }; Setup devfs.rules if you have yet to do it: http://am-productions.biz/docs/devfs.rules.php Add your user to the operator group or change the mode to 0666 below. Add to devfs.rules: add path 'ugen*' group operator add path 'ugen*' mode 0660 In /usr/local/sbin/pilot-sync-ugen.sh: #!/bin/sh # JPILOT=3D/usr/X11R6/bin/jpilot-sync JPILOT_USER=3Dyour_username_here export JPILOT_HOME=3D/home/$JPILOT_USER PILOTPORT=3Dusb:/dev/$1 COMMAND=3D`echo $JPILOT -p $PILOTPORT -b` # run command ie. (sync) /usr/bin/su $JPILOT_USER -c "$COMMAND" =2D-=20 Anish Mistry amistry@am-productions.biz AM Productions http://am-productions.biz/ --nextPart16829542.u2yAZlI8SV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFNVLIxqA5ziudZT0RApuBAJ9xoRby0BCZmEZbKOCiDGh+dpXTNACglQxc W0ttxuJJCa0XlDWZ9O+y2po= =u8iU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart16829542.u2yAZlI8SV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 22:02:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BDB16A407 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:02:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4E243D64 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:02:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GZx0X-0005jF-C6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:01:58 +0200 Received: from c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.147.85.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:01:57 +0200 Received: from jdarnold by c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:01:57 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonathan Arnold Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:00:54 -0400 Lines: 58 Message-ID: References: <20061017210740.GB9251@dfwdamian.vail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060804) In-Reply-To: <20061017210740.GB9251@dfwdamian.vail> Sender: news Subject: Re: Problems with USB Palm sync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:02:43 -0000 Damian Wiest wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 04:29:49PM -0400, Jonathan Arnold wrote: >> Has anyone had any luck using pilot-link to sync JPilot to a Palm >> device via the USB? I'm trying to sync my Handspring Visor and it just >> doesn't seem to be noticing it. I have the following in my >> /dev/usbd.conf file: >> >> device "Handspring Visor" >> devname "ugen[0-9]+" >> vendor 0x082d >> product 0x0100 >> release 0x0100 >> attach "chmod 0666 /dev/ugen*" >> >> as per the code that was in there for the coldsync. When I press the >> sync button on the cradle, these devices show up: >> >> crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 181 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0 >> crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 182 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0.1 >> crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 183 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0.2 >> >> And the following shows up in my dmesg: >> >> ugen0: Handspring Inc Handspring Visor, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 5 >> ugen0: at uhub6 port 4 (addr 5) disconnected >> All threads purged from ugen0.2 >> All threads purged from ugen0.1 >> All threads purged from ugen0 >> ugen0: detached >> >> But the pilot-link command fails immediately: >> >> $ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ugen0 -l >> Unable to bind to port: /dev/ugen0 >> Please use --help for more information >> >> Any ideas? I've googled all over the place, but I only see similiar >> questions. And the FreeBSD.README on the pilot-link web site seems to >> be misleading at best. >> > I've had success syncing my Palm OS based phone (SPH-i500 FWIW) to my > laptop using jpilot with a USB connection. Glad to hear it works for someone! What FreeBSD are you using? I'm using 6.1 (via PC-BSD 1.2). > Do you have permissions to access /dev/ugen0? Yes, due to the "attach" command, which I added myself after much googling. It gives me: -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 22:05:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA9F16A407 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:05:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D03843D7D for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:05:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GZx3X-0006IS-0F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:05:03 +0200 Received: from c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.147.85.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:05:02 +0200 Received: from jdarnold by c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:05:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonathan Arnold Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:03:07 -0400 Lines: 66 Message-ID: References: <20061017210740.GB9251@dfwdamian.vail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060804) In-Reply-To: <20061017210740.GB9251@dfwdamian.vail> Sender: news Subject: Re: Problems with USB Palm sync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:05:18 -0000 (hope this isn't a double post:-( Damian Wiest wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 04:29:49PM -0400, Jonathan Arnold wrote: >> Has anyone had any luck using pilot-link to sync JPilot to a Palm >> device via the USB? I'm trying to sync my Handspring Visor and it just >> doesn't seem to be noticing it. I have the following in my >> /dev/usbd.conf file: >> >> device "Handspring Visor" >> devname "ugen[0-9]+" >> vendor 0x082d >> product 0x0100 >> release 0x0100 >> attach "chmod 0666 /dev/ugen*" >> >> as per the code that was in there for the coldsync. When I press the >> sync button on the cradle, these devices show up: >> >> crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 181 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0 >> crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 182 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0.1 >> crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 183 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0.2 >> >> And the following shows up in my dmesg: >> >> ugen0: Handspring Inc Handspring Visor, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 5 >> ugen0: at uhub6 port 4 (addr 5) disconnected >> All threads purged from ugen0.2 >> All threads purged from ugen0.1 >> All threads purged from ugen0 >> ugen0: detached >> >> But the pilot-link command fails immediately: >> >> $ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ugen0 -l >> Unable to bind to port: /dev/ugen0 >> Please use --help for more information >> >> Any ideas? I've googled all over the place, but I only see similiar >> questions. And the FreeBSD.README on the pilot-link web site seems to >> be misleading at best. > > I've had success syncing my Palm OS based phone (SPH-i500 FWIW) to my > laptop using jpilot with a USB connection. Glad to hear someone has had success. What FreeBSD are you using? I'm using 6.1 (via PC-BSD 1.2). > Do you have permissions to access /dev/ugen0? Yes: >> crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 181 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0 But only because I added the 'attach chmod' command to usbd.conf: >> attach "chmod 0666 /dev/ugen*" Before, it was read-only. -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 22:12:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACAE16A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56A143D7D for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:12:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZxBc-000CuO-Ku for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:13:24 +0200 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:13:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Zbigniew Szalbot X-X-Sender: zbyszek@192.168.11.51 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061018000853.O49453@192.168.11.51> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: ntpd not adjusting the clock? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:12:57 -0000 Hello, Sorry to bother again but I run ntpd on FBSD 6.1 and the clock differes by about 30 seconds when I compare the time with top and this link http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=262 My ntp.conf file looks like that: server 2.pl.pool.ntp.org prefer server 1.europe.pool.ntp.org server 0.europe.pool.ntp.org restrict default ignore driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift The rc.conf file has these lines: ntpd_enable="YES" ntpd_flags="-g -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntp.drift" What am I doing wrong that instead of having the time synced I see more and more discrepancy. When I rebooted and started the service 6 days ago there was about 20 seconds difference. Now it is well over 30. Many thanks in advance! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 22:24:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDEB216A40F for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from achilles.leela.ws (achilles.leela.ws [66.207.162.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD9343D45 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:24:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.0.193] ([158.145.111.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by achilles.leela.ws (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9HMO7hS055602 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:24:09 -0800 (AKDT) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Message-ID: <45355806.4010505@mac.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:24:06 -0800 From: "Peter A. Giessel" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Macintosh/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zbigniew Szalbot References: <20061018000853.O49453@192.168.11.51> In-Reply-To: <20061018000853.O49453@192.168.11.51> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd not adjusting the clock? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:24:11 -0000 On 2006/10/17 14:13, Zbigniew Szalbot seems to have typed: > What am I doing wrong that instead of having the time synced I see more > and more discrepancy. When I rebooted and started the service 6 days ago > there was about 20 seconds difference. Now it is well over 30. What does ntpq -p show? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 22:40:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7989E16A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D0843D4C for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:40:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin05-en2 [10.13.10.150]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout02/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9HMeDbn021286; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (a17-214-13-96.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9HMeB4b008248; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:40:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20061018000853.O49453@192.168.11.51> References: <20061018000853.O49453@192.168.11.51> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:40:11 -0700 To: Zbigniew Szalbot X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd not adjusting the clock? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:40:14 -0000 On Oct 17, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > My ntp.conf file looks like that: > > server 2.pl.pool.ntp.org prefer > server 1.europe.pool.ntp.org > server 0.europe.pool.ntp.org > restrict default ignore > driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift Unless you've got additional restrict lines which permit some hosts to make changes, using only "restrict default ignore" will prevent ntpd from paying attention to the timeservers you've listed and it will even prevent ntpd from changing the local clock or being administered via ntpq from localhost. This misconfiguration will also cause your ntpd to generate excessive numbers of queries, rather than syncing up and reducing the NTP polling interval from minpoll to maxpoll. [1] Remove that line and restart ntpd. > The rc.conf file has these lines: > ntpd_enable="YES" > ntpd_flags="-g -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ > ntp.drift" > > What am I doing wrong that instead of having the time synced I see > more and more discrepancy. When I rebooted and started the service > 6 days ago there was about 20 seconds difference. Now it is well > over 30. Run: ntpq -c peers ...and you will be able to see the delay and offset from the NTP clocks you've configured in ntp.conf. -- -Chuck [1]: There are entire Linux distributions which have shipped with ntp.conf configured to prevent ntpd from working properly. These client machines end up querying NTP servers in the pool.ntp.org service repeatedly at minpoll (or even faster, if iburst is specified) because they discard the responses given to them, and therefore constitute an abuse of NTP server resources. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 22:41:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C28216A403 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-250.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867B043D8E for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:41:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.6/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k9HMetH9075042; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:40:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20061017173933.021d56c8@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:40:47 -0500 To: Zbigniew Szalbot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <20061018000853.O49453@192.168.11.51> References: <20061018000853.O49453@192.168.11.51> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: ntpd not adjusting the clock? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:41:32 -0000 ntpd won't correct the clock if the difference is too large. So you need to kill ntpd, run ntpdate to set the clock, then start ntpd up again. -Derek At 05:13 PM 10/17/2006, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: >Hello, > >Sorry to bother again but I run ntpd on FBSD 6.1 and the clock differes by >about 30 seconds when I compare the time with top and this link >http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=262 > >My ntp.conf file looks like that: > >server 2.pl.pool.ntp.org prefer >server 1.europe.pool.ntp.org >server 0.europe.pool.ntp.org >restrict default ignore >driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift > >The rc.conf file has these lines: >ntpd_enable="YES" >ntpd_flags="-g -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntp.drift" > >What am I doing wrong that instead of having the time synced I see more >and more discrepancy. When I rebooted and started the service 6 days ago >there was about 20 seconds difference. Now it is well over 30. > >Many thanks in advance! > >-- >Zbigniew Szalbot >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 22:43:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F02716A40F for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:43:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phatfish@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331EE43D68 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:42:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phatfish@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so445791nfc for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:42:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Fi3AhnajnqhLc9ywa/VAgiTz6aHSLr4yCc5AIxqkwL2eKKHqeDpFAJRLuwxr46FNXAzyTsSnGQfvRuWg5pNMqnGDiMsuaPNwCYcZvZ7b1czc5isIGEB1nlJboXyzd1NfjVZsvClFtPW0MOFAaAJoIObr9chsoB1AbBazt0Tw780= Received: by 10.82.123.16 with SMTP id v16mr1787546buc; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.161.8 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <718eeb340610171542i2ffa99e5jbf3df8f8406a2093@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:42:31 +0100 From: Chris To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Port redirection troubles with natd/ipwf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:43:21 -0000 Hello, I have set myself up a nice FreeBSD router, but im having trouble getting my firewall and NAT configured. I have a basic setup at the moment that is working well, using IPFW for a firewall and also running natd because i have a few computers here on my LAN that want Internet access. However i cannot seem to work out how to get port redirection through NAT working correctly. Currently i have it setup (as i hope my configs bellow show) that all incoming traffic from the web is blocked, unless it was initiated by a host on the LAN; then the check-state and keep-state rules allow the traffic through for that session. My problem comes when i want to so say, "its ok for traffic to pass through this port to a target on the LAN". As far as i can make out that is done with the "redirect_port" setting in natd.conf -- my conf has ports 113 and 3002 redirected to 10.0.0.11. 113 for IDENT, and 3002 as a custom port for a windows ftp server. Take an IDENT request for example, i can see the traffic coming in on port 113, getting nat'd to the correct LAN ip, and even mIRC registering the IDENT request. But it never gets back out. The same with FTP on 3002, if someone attempts to connect they get a message in their client that the request timed out, but i can see a login attempt in the server logs. I have a feeling there is a simple answer to this, but im stuck. Any help is appreciated. My config is bellow, i can provide logs of the behavior if a fix is not obvious. Thank you. >> ifconfig re0: flags=8943 mtu 1500 options=18 inet6 fe80::214:*** prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:14:bf:59:be:84 media: Ethernet autoselect (none) status: no carrier re1: flags=8943 mtu 1500 options=18 inet6 fe80::214:*** prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 ether 00:14:bf:59:be:8b media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active re2: flags=8943 mtu 1500 options=18 inet6 fe80::214:*** prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 ether 00:14:bf:59:c1:26 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active vr0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::211:*** prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 inet ***.***.***.*** netmask 0xfffffc00 broadcast 255.255.255.255 ether 00:11:d8:a1:22:13 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 bridge0: flags=8043 mtu 1500 inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255 ether ac:de:48:30:8d:de priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 member: re2 flags=7 port 3 priority 128 path cost 55 forwarding member: re1 flags=7 port 2 priority 128 path cost 55 forwarding member: re0 flags=7 port 1 priority 128 path cost 55 disabled >> cat /etc/natd.conf dynamic yes use_sockets yes same_ports yes unregistered_only redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.11:113 113 redirect_port udp 10.0.0.11:113 113 redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.11:3002 3002 redirect_port udp 10.0.0.11:3002 3002 >> cat /etc/rc.firewall.test (these rules were made mainly using the NAT stateful ruleset here http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html ) #!/bin/sh ###### # Default variables ###### cmd="ipfw -q add" # Rule prefix wan="vr0" # Inbound interface (Public WAN) lan="bridge0" # Outbound interfaces (Private LAN) nat="skipto 600" # "Skipto" location for outgoing packets that need NAT ks="keep-state" # Adds rule to dynamic rules table ###### # Ruleset ###### ipfw -q -f flush ### # Allowed Loopback and LAN traffic ### $cmd 00005 allow all from any to any via $lan $cmd 00006 allow all from any to any via lo0 ### # NAT inbound traffic and check all traffic against rules in dynamic rules table ### $cmd 00010 divert natd ip from any to any in via $wan $cmd 00011 check-state ### # Rejected outbound traffic ### ### # Allowed outbound traffic ### # Allow all outbound traffic $cmd 00205 $nat icmp from any to any out via $wan $ks $cmd 00210 $nat tcp from any to any out via $wan setup $ks $cmd 00211 $nat udp from any to any out via $wan $ks ### # Rejected inbound traffic ### # Late arriving packets $cmd 00315 deny all from any to any frag in via $wan # ACK packets that did not match the dynamic rule table $cmd 00320 deny tcp from any to any established in via $wan ### # Allowed inbound traffic ### # ISP's DNS and DHCP $cmd 00404 allow all from ***.***.4.100 to any 53 in via $wan $ks $cmd 00405 allow all from ***.***.8.100 to any 53 in via $wan $ks $cmd 00406 allow all from 10.247.20.1 to any 68 in via $wan $ks # Test rules $cmd 00410 allow log logamount 50 tcp from any to any 113 in via $wan $ks $cmd 00411 allow log logamount 50 udp from any to any 113 in via $wan $ks $cmd 00420 allow log logamount 50 tcp from any to any 3002 in via $wan $ks $cmd 00421 allow log logamount 50 udp from any to any 3002 in via $wan $ks ### # Log and deny unauthorized traffic ### $cmd 00505 deny log all from any to any in via $wan $cmd 00506 deny log all from any to any out via $wan ### # This is skipto location for outbound stateful rules ### $cmd 00600 divert natd ip from any to any out via $wan $cmd 00601 allow ip from any to any ###### # EOF; ##### >> ipfw -d show 00005 341874 226401838 allow ip from any to any via bridge0 00006 0 0 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00010 159810 102549336 divert 8668 ip from any to any in via vr0 00011 0 0 check-state 00205 8 480 skipto 600 icmp from any to any out via vr0 keep-state 00210 317839 222819674 skipto 600 tcp from any to any out via vr0 setup keep-state 00211 9208 1513077 skipto 600 udp from any to any out via vr0 keep-state 00315 0 0 deny ip from any to any frag in via vr0 00320 937 72516 deny tcp from any to any established in via vr0 00404 0 0 allow ip from ***.***.4.100 to any dst-port 53 in via vr0 keep-state 00405 0 0 allow ip from ***.***.8.100 to any dst-port 53 in via vr0 keep-state 00406 116 38068 allow ip from 10.247.20.1 to any dst-port 68 in via vr0 keep-state 00410 2 120 allow log logamount 50 tcp from any to any dst-port 113 in via vr0 keep-state 00411 0 0 allow log logamount 50 udp from any to any dst-port 113 in via vr0 keep-state 00420 17 776 allow log logamount 50 tcp from any to any dst-port 3002 in via vr0 keep-state 00421 0 0 allow log logamount 50 udp from any to any dst-port 3002 in via vr0 keep-state 00422 0 0 allow log logamount 50 ip from any to any dst-port 3002 in via vr0 keep-state 00505 4656 409960 deny log logamount 6 ip from any to any in via vr0 00506 1664 80112 deny log logamount 6 ip from any to any out via vr0 00600 172967 122305174 divert 8668 ip from any to any out via vr0 00601 328900 224576731 allow ip from any to any 65535 86 62670 deny ip from any to any ## Dynamic rules (158): 00210 6 1848 (294s) STATE tcp 10.0.0.11 1575 <-> ***.249.91.18 80 00210 582 39177 (292s) STATE tcp 10.0.0.11 1205 <-> ***.12.25.125 5190 00211 42 3215 (2s) STATE udp 10.0.0.11 1158 <-> ***.142.64.162 27014 00210 725 41173 (263s) STATE tcp 10.0.0.11 1206 <-> ***.46.110.86 1863 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 22:50:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B254716A407 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:50:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12FEC43D72 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:50:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so75572wxc for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.65.5 with SMTP id n5mr14693977wxa; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i40sm392243wxd.2006.10.17.15.50.55; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4514B83D; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:50:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss.seibercom.net [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F891B826; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:50:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:50:54 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom.NET In-Reply-To: <20061018000853.O49453@192.168.11.51> References: <20061018000853.O49453@192.168.11.51> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20061017184106.EF74.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.27 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Zbigniew Szalbot Subject: Re: ntpd not adjusting the clock? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:50:57 -0000 On Tuesday October 17, 2006 at 06:13:24 (PM) Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Sorry to bother again but I run ntpd on FBSD 6.1 and the clock differes by > about 30 seconds when I compare the time with top and this link > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=262 > > My ntp.conf file looks like that: > > server 2.pl.pool.ntp.org prefer > server 1.europe.pool.ntp.org > server 0.europe.pool.ntp.org > restrict default ignore > driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift > > The rc.conf file has these lines: > ntpd_enable="YES" > ntpd_flags="-g -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntp.drift" > > What am I doing wrong that instead of having the time synced I see more > and more discrepancy. When I rebooted and started the service 6 days ago > there was about 20 seconds difference. Now it is well over 30. I am using the following configuration and the time is kept accurately. The drift file defaults to '/var/db/ntpd.drift' I believe. In any case, it is presently situated there without any assistance from me. #ntp.conf file # server us.pool.ntp.org server clock.nyc.he.net server sundial.columbia.edu #rc.conf # ntpd_enable="YES" -- Gerard "It is not the OS's job to stop you from shooting your foot. If you so choose to do so, then it is OS's job to deliver Mr. Bullet to Mr Foot in the most efficient way it knows." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 22:56:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9390016A40F for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from achilles.leela.ws (achilles.leela.ws [66.207.162.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F25643D68 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:56:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.0.193] ([158.145.111.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by achilles.leela.ws (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9HMu0gb055819 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:56:01 -0800 (AKDT) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Message-ID: <45355F80.3@mac.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:56:00 -0800 From: "Peter A. Giessel" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Macintosh/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Ragona References: <20061018000853.O49453@192.168.11.51> <6.0.0.22.2.20061017173933.021d56c8@mail.computinginnovations.com> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20061017173933.021d56c8@mail.computinginnovations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Zbigniew Szalbot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd not adjusting the clock? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:56:06 -0000 On 2006/10/17 14:40, Derek Ragona seems to have typed: > ntpd won't correct the clock if the difference is too large. So you need > to kill ntpd, run ntpdate to set the clock, then start ntpd up again. > > -Derek > > > At 05:13 PM 10/17/2006, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: >> ntpd_flags="-g -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntp.drift" >From "man ntpd": -g Normally, ntpd exits if the offset exceeds the sanity limit, which is 1000 s by default. If the sanity limit is set to zero, no sanity checking is performed and any offset is acceptable. This option overrides the limit and allows the time to be set to any value without restriction; however, this can happen only once. After that, ntpd will exit if the limit is exceeded. This option can be used with the -q option. With the "-g" flag in there, it shouldn't matter if the difference is too large. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 22:56:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646E016A412 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:56:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A2943D58 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:56:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so83192pye for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:56:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=rztrXktFB6VREN2cnG2n3VZLPbTII0B2gEUwM2QUC1YQO+60tLUqOUWENedbIHfgITt4yYLghJCP59JMabl/QTt3gCOWEQtmkFZI9BnNPiSplS3+5rxM7IMNXorU65zx0hEB/r5d/CdstMLe9BovVEvbKGw2hBZouGZhIkrhVhk= Received: by 10.35.89.10 with SMTP id r10mr16264294pyl; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakshmi.susmita.org ( [59.92.57.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 55sm240910pyf.2006.10.17.15.48.52; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lakshmi.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EDDDE23A9DF; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:18:47 +0530 (IST) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:18:47 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061017224847.GA14477@lakshmi.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <20061017135829.GA56234@gothmog.pc> <20061017153004.M88574@envieweb.net> <453512C8.4030900@schrodinger.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <453512C8.4030900@schrodinger.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:56:07 -0000 On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 10:28:40AM -0700, Simon Gao wrote: > Even though there are many Linux distributions, but Linux core pacakges > are the mostly the same. The differences are mainly in window manager > and GUI applications. No matter which Linux distribution, kernel 2.6.16 > is always the same. When it comes to X window, it's xorg across the board. Wrong. Different vendors patch the stock linux kernel. Remember that linux has moved device handling to userland. And when the kernel itself is not same across distros what to talk of userland? My God, it gets really messy. Ubuntu stopped using /sbin/hotplug but Gentoo is still using them. Damn, there is much more confusion in the linux world than in Windoze... Damnit, but I have no bloody choice. I don't wany to buy an expensive piece of hardware like a DVB card or webcam ; then come home and find that the most precious buy is not worth a penny bcoz FreeBSD doesn't support it. At least for the really price conscious customer like me, linux has made my day. I was really surprised to find that both my webcams are supported in linux. Not with the stock kernel but with some add on. You guys sit and lament about the quality of linux code and the presence of bugs. But there is no gainsaying the fact that at least my hardware is supported albeit buggily or ineffectively... I think it is neither practical nor always possible to figure out what hardware is supported in FreeBSD and what is not. However to quote my own experience my expectations from FreeBSD has been rather modest and has never disappointed me. The support on old machines and performance simply rocks! regards, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 23:01:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862AC16A4A0 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:01:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A1E43D6D for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:01:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so84488pye for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:00:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=qJAV1puNkcyDWOX+I5+W86UotwLAAT2qDxXg7E1BBJrdQE6R+BpEevqlJ3xzP2N4EFGT8x5+B8w8rCWxqLP6v/0Rrcbl+W7Y3TAyoWsb1xAOHrmOH20ti8y8c5nxD3OUaaG2Djle0o1JCp4Bn1hVDFDZ36QwSEvfEuBDEoK7FdI= Received: by 10.35.57.5 with SMTP id j5mr16725604pyk; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakshmi.susmita.org ( [59.92.57.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id w28sm249415pyc.2006.10.17.16.00.34; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lakshmi.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8D42723A9DF; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:30:29 +0530 (IST) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:30:29 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: Simon Gao Message-ID: <20061017230029.GB14477@lakshmi.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: Simon Gao , questions@freebsd.org References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <20061017135829.GA56234@gothmog.pc> <20061017153004.M88574@envieweb.net> <453512C8.4030900@schrodinger.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <453512C8.4030900@schrodinger.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:01:12 -0000 On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 10:28:40AM -0700, Simon Gao wrote: > Even though there are many Linux distributions, but Linux core pacakges > are the mostly the same. The differences are mainly in window manager > and GUI applications. No matter which Linux distribution, kernel 2.6.16 > is always the same. When it comes to X window, it's xorg across the board. Wrong. Different vendors patch the stock linux kernel. Remember that linux has moved device handling to userland. And when the kernel itself is not same across distros what to talk of userland? My God, it gets really messy. Ubuntu stopped using /sbin/hotplug but Gentoo is still using them. Damn, there is much more confusion in the linux world than in Windoze... Damnit, but I have no bloody choice. I don't wany to buy an expensive piece of hardware like a DVB card or webcam ; then come home and find that the most precious buy is not worth a penny bcoz FreeBSD doesn't support it. At least for the really price conscious customer like me, linux has made my day. I was really surprised to find that both my webcams are supported in linux. Not with the stock kernel but with some add on. You guys sit and lament about the quality of linux code and the presence of bugs. But there is no gainsaying the fact that at least my hardware is supported albeit buggily or ineffectively... I think it is neither practical nor always possible to figure out what hardware is supported in FreeBSD and what is not. However to quote my own experience my expectations from FreeBSD has been rather modest and has never disappointed me. The support on old machines and performance simply rocks! regards, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 23:02:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24ABE16A416 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from achilles.leela.ws (achilles.leela.ws [66.207.162.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C266043D5F for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:02:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.0.193] ([158.145.111.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by achilles.leela.ws (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9HN2R6B055868 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:02:28 -0800 (AKDT) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Message-ID: <45356102.5030604@mac.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:02:26 -0800 From: "Peter A. Giessel" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Macintosh/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com, FreeBSD-questions References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <20061017135829.GA56234@gothmog.pc> <20061017153004.M88574@envieweb.net> <453512C8.4030900@schrodinger.com> <20061017224847.GA14477@lakshmi.susmita.org> In-Reply-To: <20061017224847.GA14477@lakshmi.susmita.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:02:31 -0000 On 2006/10/17 14:48, Girish Venkatachalam seems to have typed: > But there is no gainsaying the fact that at least my hardware is > supported albeit buggily or ineffectively... I don't mean to be rude, but if hardware support is your only criteria, why not just run Windows? If you don't care that its buggy or ineffective, and you don't want to check that it is supported before you buy it, you just want it to support everything, it would seem to me that Microsoft's OS is the obvious choice.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 00:38:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983E316A40F for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:38:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BF043D49 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:38:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so113556pye for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:37:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=RRTrpDdbB0uViP7no4Y2S21pRL452yA7moOSKn95yBLqxY0HlMm2WMlAY5wrKQ+ibMnYa9B/QcOfpRHVNKFNyKutP81nSkhWqLZjDAOkTODnT3klVlSb5ateWpSXbrOWEUfqoGjrgdhUwSUk/BG2K+gWrLIFfSdYhy9NzP8YufQ= Received: by 10.64.253.12 with SMTP id a12mr13294851qbi; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.103.4 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:37:38 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" In-Reply-To: <20061017135829.GA56234@gothmog.pc> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <20061017135829.GA56234@gothmog.pc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Simon Gao , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:38:13 -0000 On 10/17/06, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > > Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. > > This is probably true. yes it's true linux has support for more devices than FreeBSD and that's why i think we got to be heard, install this nifty app called bsdstats and maybe just maybe those device manufacturers will notice us FreeBSD users, that it is not just for hobbyist. _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 00:40:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4F316A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:40:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C851A43D5D for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:40:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id o37so41574nzf for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:40:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TCs98KVUVxgT5RikcrefPn0UT4gQlRMizWdAaL0Byx8Q8GPe6NsW3p7FDSm+1qVC6eoxv3WCioj+YijWL7Ajhuhf9dr4ZizKiYLO1TjpwPJ4wl5/jWssNuI5JCngLc/A3vJcDq/+4V8qVdJfZPPUOJRqiV37c12PsHnBOY4ReKg= Received: by 10.65.216.19 with SMTP id t19mr13283513qbq; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.103.4 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:40:31 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: Chris , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <718eeb340610171542i2ffa99e5jbf3df8f8406a2093@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <718eeb340610171542i2ffa99e5jbf3df8f8406a2093@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Port redirection troubles with natd/ipwf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:40:46 -0000 On 10/18/06, Chris wrote: > > Hello, > > I have set myself up a nice FreeBSD router, but im having trouble getting > my > firewall and NAT configured. I have a basic setup at the moment that is > working well, using IPFW for a firewall and also running natd because i > have > a few computers here on my LAN that want Internet access. > > However i cannot seem to work out how to get port redirection through NAT > working correctly. Currently i have it setup (as i hope my configs bellow > show) that all incoming traffic from the web is blocked, unless it was > initiated by a host on the LAN; then the check-state and keep-state rules > allow the traffic through for that session. > > My problem comes when i want to so say, "its ok for traffic to pass > through > this port to a target on the LAN". As far as i can make out that is done > with the "redirect_port" setting in natd.conf -- my conf has ports 113 and > 3002 redirected to 10.0.0.11. 113 for IDENT, and 3002 as a custom port for > a > windows ftp server. > > Take an IDENT request for example, i can see the traffic coming in on port > 113, getting nat'd to the correct LAN ip, and even mIRC registering the > IDENT request. But it never gets back out. The same with FTP on 3002, if > someone attempts to connect they get a message in their client that the > request timed out, but i can see a login attempt in the server logs. > > I have a feeling there is a simple answer to this, but im stuck. Any help > is > appreciated. My config is bellow, i can provide logs of the behavior if a > fix is not obvious. > > Thank you. > > >> ifconfig > re0: flags=8943 mtu 1500 > options=18 > inet6 fe80::214:*** prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 > ether 00:14:bf:59:be:84 > media: Ethernet autoselect (none) > status: no carrier > re1: flags=8943 mtu 1500 > options=18 > inet6 fe80::214:*** prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 > ether 00:14:bf:59:be:8b > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > re2: flags=8943 mtu 1500 > options=18 > inet6 fe80::214:*** prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 > ether 00:14:bf:59:c1:26 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > vr0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet6 fe80::211:*** prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 > inet ***.***.***.*** netmask 0xfffffc00 broadcast 255.255.255.255 > ether 00:11:d8:a1:22:13 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > bridge0: flags=8043 mtu 1500 > inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255 > ether ac:de:48:30:8d:de > priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 > member: re2 flags=7 > port 3 priority 128 path cost 55 forwarding > member: re1 flags=7 > port 2 priority 128 path cost 55 forwarding > member: re0 flags=7 > port 1 priority 128 path cost 55 disabled > > >> cat /etc/natd.conf > dynamic yes > use_sockets yes > same_ports yes > unregistered_only > > redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.11:113 113 > redirect_port udp 10.0.0.11:113 113 > redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.11:3002 3002 > redirect_port udp 10.0.0.11:3002 3002 > > >> cat /etc/rc.firewall.test > (these rules were made mainly using the NAT stateful ruleset here > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html > ) > #!/bin/sh > > ###### > # Default variables > ###### > cmd="ipfw -q add" # Rule prefix > wan="vr0" # Inbound interface (Public WAN) > lan="bridge0" # Outbound interfaces (Private LAN) > nat="skipto 600" # "Skipto" location for outgoing packets that need NAT > ks="keep-state" # Adds rule to dynamic rules table > > ###### > # Ruleset > ###### > > ipfw -q -f flush > > ### > # Allowed Loopback and LAN traffic > ### > > $cmd 00005 allow all from any to any via $lan > $cmd 00006 allow all from any to any via lo0 > > ### > # NAT inbound traffic and check all traffic against rules in dynamic rules > table > ### > > $cmd 00010 divert natd ip from any to any in via $wan > $cmd 00011 check-state > > ### > # Rejected outbound traffic > ### > > ### > # Allowed outbound traffic > ### > > # Allow all outbound traffic > $cmd 00205 $nat icmp from any to any out via $wan $ks > $cmd 00210 $nat tcp from any to any out via $wan setup $ks > $cmd 00211 $nat udp from any to any out via $wan $ks > > ### > # Rejected inbound traffic > ### > > # Late arriving packets > $cmd 00315 deny all from any to any frag in via $wan > > # ACK packets that did not match the dynamic rule table > $cmd 00320 deny tcp from any to any established in via $wan > > ### > # Allowed inbound traffic > ### > > # ISP's DNS and DHCP > $cmd 00404 allow all from ***.***.4.100 to any 53 in via $wan $ks > $cmd 00405 allow all from ***.***.8.100 to any 53 in via $wan $ks > $cmd 00406 allow all from 10.247.20.1 to any 68 in via $wan $ks > > # Test rules > $cmd 00410 allow log logamount 50 tcp from any to any 113 in via $wan $ks > $cmd 00411 allow log logamount 50 udp from any to any 113 in via $wan $ks > > $cmd 00420 allow log logamount 50 tcp from any to any 3002 in via $wan $ks > $cmd 00421 allow log logamount 50 udp from any to any 3002 in via $wan $ks > > ### > # Log and deny unauthorized traffic > ### > > $cmd 00505 deny log all from any to any in via $wan > $cmd 00506 deny log all from any to any out via $wan > > ### > # This is skipto location for outbound stateful rules > ### > > $cmd 00600 divert natd ip from any to any out via $wan > $cmd 00601 allow ip from any to any > > ###### > # EOF; > ##### > > >> ipfw -d show > 00005 341874 226401838 allow ip from any to any via bridge0 > 00006 0 0 allow ip from any to any via lo0 > 00010 159810 102549336 divert 8668 ip from any to any in via vr0 > 00011 0 0 check-state > 00205 8 480 skipto 600 icmp from any to any out via vr0 > keep-state > 00210 317839 222819674 skipto 600 tcp from any to any out via vr0 setup > keep-state > 00211 9208 1513077 skipto 600 udp from any to any out via vr0 > keep-state > 00315 0 0 deny ip from any to any frag in via vr0 > 00320 937 72516 deny tcp from any to any established in via vr0 > 00404 0 0 allow ip from ***.***.4.100 to any dst-port 53 in > via > vr0 keep-state > 00405 0 0 allow ip from ***.***.8.100 to any dst-port 53 in > via > vr0 keep-state > 00406 116 38068 allow ip from 10.247.20.1 to any dst-port 68 in via > vr0 keep-state > 00410 2 120 allow log logamount 50 tcp from any to any dst-port > 113 in via vr0 keep-state > 00411 0 0 allow log logamount 50 udp from any to any dst-port > 113 in via vr0 keep-state > 00420 17 776 allow log logamount 50 tcp from any to any dst-port > 3002 in via vr0 keep-state > 00421 0 0 allow log logamount 50 udp from any to any dst-port > 3002 in via vr0 keep-state > 00422 0 0 allow log logamount 50 ip from any to any dst-port > 3002 in via vr0 keep-state > 00505 4656 409960 deny log logamount 6 ip from any to any in via vr0 > 00506 1664 80112 deny log logamount 6 ip from any to any out via vr0 > 00600 172967 122305174 divert 8668 ip from any to any out via vr0 > 00601 328900 224576731 allow ip from any to any > 65535 86 62670 deny ip from any to any > ## Dynamic rules (158): > 00210 6 1848 (294s) STATE tcp 10.0.0.11 1575 <-> ***.249.91.18 > 80 > 00210 582 39177 (292s) STATE tcp 10.0.0.11 1205 <-> ***.12.25.125 > 5190 > 00211 42 3215 (2s) STATE udp 10.0.0.11 1158 <-> ***.142.64.162 > 27014 > 00210 725 41173 (263s) STATE tcp 10.0.0.11 1206 <-> ***.46.110.86 > 1863 > chris, why not use pfsense or monowall for your firewall/NAT needs, it's based on FreeBSD and very easy to configure via its webGUI. cheers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 00:51:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7061716A40F for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:51:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA0F43D62 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:51:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9I0pHMA009231 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:51:18 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9I0psjk082516; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:51:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9I0psSj082515; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:51:54 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:51:54 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: jan gestre Message-ID: <20061018005154.GB42024@gothmog.pc> References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <20061017135829.GA56234@gothmog.pc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.586, required 5, AWL -0.19, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Simon Gao , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:51:36 -0000 On 2006-10-18 08:37, jan gestre wrote: >On 10/17/06, Giorgos Keramidas <[1]keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote: >>> Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. >> >> This is probably true. > > yes it's true linux has support for more devices than FreeBSD > and that's why i think we got to be heard, install this nifty > app called bsdstats and maybe just maybe those device > manufacturers will notice us FreeBSD users, that it is not just > for hobbyist. There are other forms of active advocacy too. Write articles, post to forums, present stuff at conventions, talk and chat in local user groups about BSD, etc. Let us not limit ourselves to just bsdstats :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 00:54:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BB516A415 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:54:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@rithy4u.net) Received: from ix.khmerserver.net (ygmsmtp.khmerserver.net [203.82.224.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CEE843D80 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:54:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@rithy4u.net) Received: from [192.168.1.112] ([192.168.1.112]) by ix.khmerserver.net (rithy4uMailServer) with ESMTP id k9I0nqXj017060 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:49:54 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from root@rithy4u.net) YGLCResent-Message-Id: <200610180049.k9I0nqXj017060@ix.khmerserver.net> YGLCMessage-Id: <200610180049.k9I0nqXj017060@ix.khmerserver.net> Message-ID: <45357AF8.1020101@rithy4u.net> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:53:12 +0700 From: "Office of CEO- rithy4u.NET" Organization: rithy4u.NET User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-YGMC-MailScanner-Information: Please contact YGMC IT Dept X-YGMC-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-YGMC-MailScanner-From: root@rithy4u.net X-YGMC-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:22:04 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: File system full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:54:52 -0000 Dear All, My firewall server was running out of space on / partition I have try to reboot/fsck and delete all unneccessary files inside / but I still get 12 MB of free space with total 495 MB worth of that partition. Any ideas? Rgds, -- *Rithy Ray, RCSA* Chief Executive Officer Web: www.rithy4u.net Email: info@rithy4u.net Phone: (855) 12 403 001 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 01:15:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD1116A416 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:15:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin_nils@be-known-online.com) Received: from hw2.deuceswilddesigns.com (hw2.deuceswilddesigns.com [204.15.166.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF5A43D5F for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:15:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from valentin_nils@be-known-online.com) Received: from cpanel by hw2.deuceswilddesigns.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1Ga02J-0000pF-0I for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:15:59 +0000 Received: from 221.186.130.209 ([221.186.130.209]) by www.be-known-online.com (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:15:58 +0000 Message-ID: <20061018011558.rebcylgmsvr44wwg@www.be-known-online.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:15:58 +0000 From: valentin_nils@be-known-online.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20061017024608.oz5nxhf483s4c444@www.be-known-online.com> <20061017033149.GA1064@home> In-Reply-To: <20061017033149.GA1064@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-VertexHost-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-VertexHost-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-VertexHost-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-VertexHost-MailScanner-From: valentin_nils@be-known-online.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hw2.deuceswilddesigns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32001 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - be-known-online.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:22:26 +0000 Subject: Re: Automated installations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:15:58 -0000 Hi George, cool reply. Thank you. ;-) That basically means that I have to compile/burn my own CD with the =20 config file install.cfg in it right ? is there a version f.e. to start from the CD (with some parameters =20 where the config file is located) and do that from a boot floppy - =20 basically without PXEboot or can I point PXEboot to the CD image AND =20 the install.cfg somehow ? Best regards Nils Valentin Quoting George Allan : > On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 02:46:08AM +0000, =20 > valentin_nils@be-known-online.com wrote: >> I am in search of an tool for automated installations. SOmething like >> Kickstart or Autoyast for Linux - just the BSD-able version ;-) >> >> Is anybody aware of such a tool that I perhaps overlooked or anybody >> perhaps currently developing one ? > > sysinstall(8) is your friend. > pxeboot(8) will buy the drinks. > > Be sure to read through Section 2 of the fine Handbook. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 01:39:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8927116A415 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43AA43D55 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:39:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 17 Oct 2006 21:39:08 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,322,1157342400"; d="scan'208"; a="324718633:sNHT23034416" Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id HHW06654; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:37:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-203-219.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.203.219]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 17 Oct 2006 21:37:04 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,321,1157342400"; d="scan'208"; a="295325143:sNHT23915688" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17717.34001.820142.506088@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:35:13 -0400 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <45357AF8.1020101@rithy4u.net> References: <45357AF8.1020101@rithy4u.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090205.45358554.0009,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.113/2006-07-26 Subject: File system full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:39:09 -0000 Office of CEO- rithy4u.NET writes: > My firewall server was running out of space on / partition I have > try to reboot/fsck and delete all unneccessary files inside / but > I still get 12 MB of free space with total 495 MB worth of that > partition. Any ideas? du -x / | sort -nr | head -n 50 | more Longer version: you should know what lives on directly under / and roughly how much space it takes. If some directory which used to take 27.4 mb suddenly has 311 mb .... Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 01:48:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFE516A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:48:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA41343D4C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:48:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9I1lihZ012133 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:47:47 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9I1mL0O058072; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:48:21 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9I1mJEo057695; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:48:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:48:19 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: root@rithy4u.net Message-ID: <20061018014819.GA72686@gothmog.pc> References: <45357AF8.1020101@rithy4u.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45357AF8.1020101@rithy4u.net> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.588, required 5, AWL -1.18, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, DOMAIN_4U2 1.99, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: File system full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:48:03 -0000 On 2006-10-18 07:53, "Office of CEO- rithy4u.NET" wrote: > Dear All, > My firewall server was running out of space on / partition I > have try to reboot/fsck and delete all unneccessary files > inside / but I still get 12 MB of free space with total 495 MB > worth of that partition. Any ideas? First of all, try to track down where all the space has gone, by using `df' and `du' with the -x option. For example, you can get a good idea of which places in your root filesystem are the top-10 users of space with: # cd / # du -xm . | sort -nr | head -10 If this doesn't show up a lot of stuff, then there's probably a rogue process which has opened a file and then removed it, so it's not directly visible by traversing the tree with `du', but you can still look for it with: # fstat -f / | sort -k +8 After you get this sort of information, we can make more informed suggestions about the best way to move forward :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 01:54:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F7B16A403; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:54:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org [198.22.63.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501C843D77; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:54:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9I1sRSW001811; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:54:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from root@localhost) by bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (8.13.8/8.13.7/Submit) id k9I1sRim001810; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:54:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:54:27 -0400 From: "Michael W. Lucas" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061018015427.GA1779@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: wes@freebsd.org Subject: mimedefang, perl, and amd64 trouble X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:54:53 -0000 Hi, (copying wes@, the mimedefang maintainer, just because it might possibly be his headache.) I have a brand-new, freshly-cvsupped 7.0 amd64 box as a mail server. Perl seems to be having troubles; when I fire up mimedefang, it can't load some dependencies. Oct 17 21:47:39 bewilderbeast mimedefang-multiplexor[1730]: Starting slave 0 (pid 1747) ( 1 running): Bringing slaves up to minSlaves (2) Oct 17 21:47:39 bewilderbeast mimedefang-multiplexor[1730]: Slave 0 stderr: Can't load '/ usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Sys/Hostname/Hostname.so' for module Sys::Hostname: / usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Sys/Hostname/Hostname.so: mmap of entire address spac e failed: Cannot allocate memory at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/XSLoader.pm line 70. at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm line 23 Oct 17 21:47:39 bewilderbeast mimedefang-multiplexor[1730]: Slave 0 stderr: Can't load '/ usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/File/Glob/Glob.so' for module File::Glob: /usr/local/ lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/File/Glob/Glob.so: mmap of entire address space failed: Cannot allocate memory at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/XSLoader.pm line 70. at /usr/local/li b/perl5/5.8.8/mach/File/Glob.pm line 96 Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/bin/m imedefang.pl line 3197. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/bin/mimedefang.pl line 3197. Oct 17 21:47:39 bewilderbeast mimedefang-multiplexor[1730]: Reap: slave 0 (pid 1747) exit ed normally with status 255 (SLAVE DIED UNEXPECTEDLY) Has anyone seen anything like this on FreeBSD before? I know that Wine has had some mmap problems, but I imagine a Perl failure would be big news here... Any ideas or suggestions appreciated. ==ml -- Michael W. Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org http://www.BlackHelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Latest book: PGP & GPG -- http://www.pgpandgpg.com "The cloak of anonymity protects me from the nuisance of caring." -Non Sequitur From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 02:01:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1302116A412 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:01:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nehe@cruzinternet.com) Received: from mail.cruzinternet.com (mail.cruzinternet.com [216.234.167.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E09F43D4C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:01:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nehe@cruzinternet.com) Received: (qmail 90484 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2006 02:01:15 -0000 Received: from iphost-216-234-182-9.cruzinternet.com (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (216.234.182.9) by mail.cruzinternet.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2006 02:01:15 -0000 Message-ID: <45358AEB.1040804@cruzinternet.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:01:15 -0600 From: Jeff Molofee User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061015) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20061017120049.6142216A54A@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20061017120049.6142216A54A@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 153, Issue 22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:01:17 -0000 I need to ask a few random questions only because I have not found the information by browsing the net: If anyone is able to answer any of the questions I would appreciate it. 1. I've asked in the past about the usb keyboard driver for BSD. It seems that of the 3 USB keyboards that I have, none of the media keys will work on any of them unless I use the supplied PS/2 adapter and plug the keyboard in using the PS/2 port. I can then use volume up/down/mute on all 3 keyboards. If I take the PS/2 adapter off and use the keyboards in the USB port, only the standard keys are readable... the media keys return nothing to gnome's Keyboard Shortcuts program. I have tried all of the standard key reading programs, and they return nothing as well. Today I ran a live ubuntu cd on my machine and noticed the media keys work fine, they were even predefined and ready to go. Is this a problem with the BSD usb keyboard driver? Is there a patch, fix or anything I can do to add support (documentation on how to do this)? 2. Everyone knows Gnome 2.16 is out, and with it comes metacity 2.16.3. Along with all of the wonderful new features such as HAL, etc, metacity apparently supports aiglx in 2.16.3. Is this only on linux machines? and if not, can someone tell me how to add --*enable*-*compositor*. I have made an attempt, but it seem to complain about missing libcm (compositing?). I see the gnome bsd site says new eye candy. They could be talking about cairo only, but I'm crossing my fingers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 02:15:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B1116A417 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:15:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C448D43D53 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:15:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k9I2Eujp031716 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:14:57 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.3/8.12.11) id k9I2FBrQ038674; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:15:11 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:15:11 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200610180215.k9I2FBrQ038674@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: martin_tsanov@yahoo.com In-reply-to: <20061017052933.38641.qmail@web60324.mail.yahoo.com> (message from Martin Tsanov on Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:29:33 -0700 (PDT)) References: <20061017052933.38641.qmail@web60324.mail.yahoo.com> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail with SpamAssassin and ClamAV X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:15:11 -0000 > However on startup I get the following error: > > Starting clamav_milter. > /usr/local/sbin/clamav-milter: socket-addr > (/var/run/clamav/clmilter.sock) doesn't agree with > sendmail.cf > > Do I need to edit sendmail.cf as well? I am not sure how myhost.cf is included into sendmail.cf, but myhost shoud be enough. That said, who is in charge of creating the socket: clamav or sendmail? What user is running sendmail? What user is running clamav? Can both processes access to the socket? Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 02:53:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9C916A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:53:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3AA43D49 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:53:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f25so159079pyf for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:53:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=YKzzE/5SPg+AL21cUG+zxIjqTfnlY62vbhUCdSsq8g37ktlaIo8mS4Q1T2vhnx0g2tNzgSHkOoAIpZ/eTffD1s9SPU41tSXIq6TmAki9t9r3BvZpnpwkCaoFf6ZZNxGGTMmZpTS9XNMePg2gq2KTzt+NZ5W5iP6vn8vHbJvIYH8= Received: by 10.35.123.10 with SMTP id a10mr16687560pyn; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakshmi.susmita.org ( [59.92.57.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id b52sm467372pyb.2006.10.17.19.53.23; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lakshmi.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B7A1423A9E4; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:23:18 +0530 (IST) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:23:18 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: FreeBSD-questions Message-ID: <20061018025318.GA24037@lakshmi.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-questions References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <20061017135829.GA56234@gothmog.pc> <20061017153004.M88574@envieweb.net> <453512C8.4030900@schrodinger.com> <20061017224847.GA14477@lakshmi.susmita.org> <45356102.5030604@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45356102.5030604@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:53:34 -0000 On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 03:02:26PM -0800, Peter A. Giessel wrote: > I don't mean to be rude, but if hardware support is your only criteria, > why not just run Windows? If you don't care that its buggy or > ineffective, and you don't want to check that it is supported before you > buy it, you just want it to support everything, it would seem to me that > Microsoft's OS is the obvious choice.... NP, you are not rude at all. :-) I never said hardware support is the only criterion. I want hardware to be supported using UNIX semantics... I would love to port some important drivers to FreeBSD if that will help. regards, Girish -- Duty for duty's sake without hope for reward or fear of punishment From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 03:23:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A1916A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:23:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C6943D7D for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:23:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ga21m-0002c6-SM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:23:34 +0200 Received: from c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.147.85.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:23:34 +0200 Received: from jdarnold by c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:23:34 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonathan Arnold Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:22:40 -0400 Lines: 55 Message-ID: References: <200610171801.44321.amistry@am-productions.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060804) In-Reply-To: <200610171801.44321.amistry@am-productions.biz> Sender: news Subject: Re: Problems with USB Palm sync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:23:41 -0000 Anish Mistry wrote: > On Tuesday 17 October 2006 16:29, Jonathan Arnold wrote: >> Has anyone had any luck using pilot-link to sync JPilot to a Palm >> device via the USB? I'm trying to sync my Handspring Visor and it >> just doesn't seem to be noticing it. I have the following in my >> /dev/usbd.conf file: > First you shouldn't be using usbd.conf. You should be using devd.conf > and devfs.rules. > > Disable usbd. > > Add to devd.conf: > attach 0 { > device-name "ugen[0-9]+"; > match "vendor" "0x082d"; > match "product" "0x0100"; > match "release" "0x0100"; > action "/usr/local/sbin/pilot-sync-ugen.sh $device-name"; > }; > > Setup devfs.rules if you have yet to do it: > http://am-productions.biz/docs/devfs.rules.php > > Add your user to the operator group or change the mode to 0666 below. > Add to devfs.rules: > add path 'ugen*' group operator > add path 'ugen*' mode 0660 > > In /usr/local/sbin/pilot-sync-ugen.sh: > #!/bin/sh > # > JPILOT=/usr/X11R6/bin/jpilot-sync > JPILOT_USER=your_username_here > export JPILOT_HOME=/home/$JPILOT_USER > PILOTPORT=usb:/dev/$1 > COMMAND=`echo $JPILOT -p $PILOTPORT -b` > # run command ie. (sync) > /usr/bin/su $JPILOT_USER -c "$COMMAND" Thanks, this seems to work a little better. Now, when I hit the Hot Sync button on the cradle, I get the feedback that there's a connection and it says "Identifying user" on the Visor, but it just hangs there and eventually gives up. If I comment out the action and try it from the commandline, pilot-xfer says " Listening for incoming connection on usb:/dev/ugen0... ". It seems to me that both are waiting for the other to initiate something. ugen0 doesn't get created until I hit the HotSync button, but the pilot-link stuff seems to be waiting for that to happen again? -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 03:34:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF0C16A416 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:34:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp113.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp113.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DAA4C43D55 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:34:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 47067 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2006 03:34:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=GKOKyMwB8zgn6mecQXV+zVUupXsCzD5G1RcAVdsLBCFZonhngJMGxorhwbNZ00c0MyUSkYOGtWO52SrFacpZ/4x4OlA3jjDrUEZCdVIZvU+JE/X8HFkj9otV3+TLKAG6Emg20zIh5gw7VzAYygVcWNyXc4RpCknhHpRI+r0hyCk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net@70.251.196.4 with plain) by smtp113.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2006 03:34:44 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:37:04 -0500 From: ajm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061018033704.GA791@powerfull.bsd> References: <4534DB69.1000802@2ainfo.it> <20061018003059.11deef50@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061018003059.11deef50@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Subject: Re: Problem updating mplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:34:48 -0000 On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 12:30:59AM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:32:25 +0200 > Filippo Moretti wrote: > > > ===> Verifying reinstall for > > /usr/local/lib/win32/win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8_1,1 in > > /usr/ports/multimedia/win32-codecs > > ===> win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8_1,1 is forbidden: Remote code execution: > > http://vuxml.FreeBSD.org/24f6b1eb-43d5-11db-81e1-000e0c2e438a.html. > > *** Error code 1 > > What can be done to solve this problem > > sincerely > > Hi Filippo, > a) you can work with the win32-codecs team to solve the remote code execution > vulnerability > b) you can be brave, reckless and probably 0wn3d soon by disabling the > vulnerability checks and upgrading anyway (dont know how to do this, sorry) > c) you can keep the slightly older port .... but it seems it is still > vulnerable: > $ sudo portaudit > [...] > Affected package: win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8,1 > Type of problem: win32-codecs -- multiple vulnerabilities. > Reference: > > > d) you can uninstall win32-codecs :) > > other options may be available, but i can't think of them atm :) > > B > > _________________________ > {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome > > RTFM and STFW before anything bad happens. > "Try the following as root or su to root" cd /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer make config "then deselect from the menu the Win32 option" make install clean "note: you will not have win32 codecs support" -- Alex FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 05:40:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B407C16A412 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:40:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chandler@chapman.edu) Received: from hormel.chapman.edu (hormel.chapman.edu [192.77.116.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DEE43D69 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:40:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chandler@chapman.edu) Received: from ADAM.chapman.edu ([10.99.0.71]) by hormel.chapman.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k9I5s08a008979 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:54:03 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:40:19 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LDAP home directories Thread-Index: Acbyd+Vu6RfctctfRSWVHfS1UKY+0w== From: "Chandler, Jay" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: LDAP home directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:40:28 -0000 Does anyone have a way to do home directory mapping through LDAP? We've got user directories mounted via NFS to /usr/users and would like to be able to type in "cd ~ted" and go to Ted's home directory, perhaps in /usr/users/students/ted. =20 We do it in Linux regularly, but I'm trying to lead a migration to FreeBSD-sadly, haven't done LDAP within BSD of any sort before. =20 Thanks in advance! =20 --=20 Jay Chandler Network Administrator, Chapman University 714.628.7249 / chandler@chapman.edu Ethernet, n. What one uses to catch the Etherbunny. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 05:49:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D63016A415 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:49:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahilliya@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C314C43D45 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:49:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jahilliya@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so161184wxc for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:49:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZyRNuwGGFRb5H5yLIcJc8ogeiXty5z2KPlbgys0HxPg8PwPYnzemI42qgqnCGj2qldWiVAH8z7Q7ATBcaFzJNPyGcFJ+RLxNe9AgW7axstowor0avyKDxXVcf7HGY5sFESnpatZjuIJTVK20e6yblI2imljEwxxh45N7ys2txvw= Received: by 10.90.78.1 with SMTP id a1mr5764464agb; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.101.10 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:49:22 +0800 From: Jahilliya To: "Chandler, Jay" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LDAP home directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:49:23 -0000 On 10/18/06, Chandler, Jay wrote: > > Does anyone have a way to do home directory mapping through LDAP? We've > got user directories mounted via NFS to /usr/users and would like to be > able to type in "cd ~ted" and go to Ted's home directory, perhaps in > /usr/users/students/ted. > > > > We do it in Linux regularly, but I'm trying to lead a migration to > FreeBSD-sadly, haven't done LDAP within BSD of any sort before. > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > -- > > Jay Chandler > > Network Administrator, Chapman University > Hey, We are using FreeBSD with Samba+OpenLDAP, each user effectively needs mapping to a local user so what we've used to give us the ability to type : cd ~user and get their home dir, as well as type : id 10000 to get their username/groups... is to install nss_ldap, pam_ldap, edit the files in /etc/pam.d/, there is a lot of good information on this, have a look at the Samba docs as well as the documentation for pam_ldap and nss_ldap. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 05:52:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CD416A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A9643D5D for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:52:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9I5pjXD090085; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:51:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k9I5pjXD090085 Message-ID: <4535C0EB.8000700@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:51:39 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061015) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <20061018000853.O49453@192.168.11.51> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3B84A5F9DC40F41B503F9935" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:52:05 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/2040/Tue Oct 17 18:34:55 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING, NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Zbigniew Szalbot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd not adjusting the clock? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:52:15 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3B84A5F9DC40F41B503F9935 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Oct 17, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: >> My ntp.conf file looks like that: >> >> server 2.pl.pool.ntp.org prefer >> server 1.europe.pool.ntp.org >> server 0.europe.pool.ntp.org >> restrict default ignore >> driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift >=20 > Unless you've got additional restrict lines which permit some hosts to > make changes, using only "restrict default ignore" will prevent ntpd > from paying attention to the timeservers you've listed and it will even= > prevent ntpd from changing the local clock or being administered via > ntpq from localhost. >=20 > This misconfiguration will also cause your ntpd to generate excessive > numbers of queries, rather than syncing up and reducing the NTP polling= > interval from minpoll to maxpoll. [1] >=20 > Remove that line and restart ntpd. That means that anyone can connect to your NTP daemon and poll it for tim= e service or use ntpdc to muck around with your configuration. It's better= to use at minimum: restrict default nopeer nomodify restrict localhost (the 'restrict localhost' line actually removes all limitations on access= from localhost. Ain't ntp.conf syntax wonderful.) Ideally, you'ld be able to use 'restrict default ignore' then apply restrict 2.pl.pool.ntp.org nopeer nomodify=20 server 2.pl.pool.ntp.org prefer for each server you configure. That works well if you specify individual= servers by name. Unfortunately the way NTP pool mechanism works makes th= at =20 approach unworkable. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig3B84A5F9DC40F41B503F9935 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFNcDw8Mjk52CukIwRCHiPAJ9YxiEXr0MHWibOqjvIj5gMUm2w9gCgg7Rg XGWPFrjF7uFI3s5VoXxOFA4= =gsWp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3B84A5F9DC40F41B503F9935-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 06:05:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212F516A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:05:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A706843D49 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:05:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Ga4ZD-0001JY-Ge for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:06:15 +0200 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:06:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Zbigniew Szalbot X-X-Sender: zbyszek@192.168.11.51 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45355806.4010505@mac.com> Message-ID: <20061018080536.A4696@192.168.11.51> References: <20061018000853.O49453@192.168.11.51> <45355806.4010505@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: ntpd not adjusting the clock? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:05:48 -0000 Hello, Thanks Peter for your reply. On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Peter A. Giessel wrote: > What does ntpq -p show? $ ntpq -p remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter ============================================================================== 217.153.131.46 .INIT. 16 u - 1024 0 0.000 0.000 4000.00 mail.fidesz.hu .INIT. 16 u - 1024 0 0.000 0.000 4000.00 lokschuppen.zs6 .INIT. 16 u - 1024 0 0.000 0.000 4000.00 -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 06:09:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD0E16A412 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:09:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amistry@am-productions.biz) Received: from mail.united-ware.com (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7846643D53 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:09:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from amistry@am-productions.biz) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (cpe-24-210-75-119.columbus.res.rr.com [24.210.75.119]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.united-ware.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9I6PMPv058022 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:25:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from amistry@am-productions.biz) From: Anish Mistry Organization: AM Productions To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:08:45 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200610171801.44321.amistry@am-productions.biz> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1319672.9Zhb6XETQf"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200610180209.00047.amistry@am-productions.biz> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,J_CHICKENPOX_55, MYFREEBSD2,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/2040/Tue Oct 17 13:34:55 2006 on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Jonathan Arnold Subject: Re: Problems with USB Palm sync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:09:01 -0000 --nextPart1319672.9Zhb6XETQf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 17 October 2006 23:22, Jonathan Arnold wrote: > Anish Mistry wrote: > > On Tuesday 17 October 2006 16:29, Jonathan Arnold wrote: > >> Has anyone had any luck using pilot-link to sync JPilot to a > >> Palm device via the USB? I'm trying to sync my Handspring Visor > >> and it just doesn't seem to be noticing it. I have the following > >> in my /dev/usbd.conf file: > > > > First you shouldn't be using usbd.conf. You should be using > > devd.conf and devfs.rules. > > > > Disable usbd. > > > > Add to devd.conf: > > attach 0 { > > device-name "ugen[0-9]+"; > > match "vendor" "0x082d"; > > match "product" "0x0100"; > > match "release" "0x0100"; > > action "/usr/local/sbin/pilot-sync-ugen.sh $device-name"; > > }; > > > > Setup devfs.rules if you have yet to do it: > > http://am-productions.biz/docs/devfs.rules.php > > > > Add your user to the operator group or change the mode to 0666 > > below. Add to devfs.rules: > > add path 'ugen*' group operator > > add path 'ugen*' mode 0660 > > > > In /usr/local/sbin/pilot-sync-ugen.sh: > > #!/bin/sh > > # > > JPILOT=3D/usr/X11R6/bin/jpilot-sync > > JPILOT_USER=3Dyour_username_here > > export JPILOT_HOME=3D/home/$JPILOT_USER > > PILOTPORT=3Dusb:/dev/$1 > > COMMAND=3D`echo $JPILOT -p $PILOTPORT -b` > > # run command ie. (sync) > > /usr/bin/su $JPILOT_USER -c "$COMMAND" > > Thanks, this seems to work a little better. Now, when I hit the > Hot Sync button on the cradle, I get the feedback that there's a > connection and it says "Identifying user" on the Visor, but it just > hangs there and eventually gives up. If I comment out the action > and try it from the commandline, pilot-xfer says " Listening for > incoming connection on usb:/dev/ugen0... ". It seems to me that > both are waiting for the other to initiate something. ugen0 doesn't > get created until I hit the HotSync button, but the pilot-link > stuff seems to be waiting for that to happen again? You'll need to install the user: # install pilot-link username COMMAND=3D`echo /usr/local/bin/install-user -p $PILOTPORT -u=20 $JPILOT_USER -i 1001` =2D-=20 Anish Mistry amistry@am-productions.biz AM Productions http://am-productions.biz/ --nextPart1319672.9Zhb6XETQf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFNcT8xqA5ziudZT0RAkuGAKCwuE6+2atJuwaVv9Q5vGAXB8gcUACgxQN0 G/hgcPQcyKodG3Z7z9cSpIg= =oePf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1319672.9Zhb6XETQf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 06:10:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4EA16A47B for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chandler@chapman.edu) Received: from hormel.chapman.edu (hormel.chapman.edu [192.77.116.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3485943D5D for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:10:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chandler@chapman.edu) Received: from ADAM.chapman.edu ([10.99.0.71]) by hormel.chapman.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k9I6O88a009050 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:24:08 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:10:26 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LDAP home directories Thread-Index: AcbyeSzIPG4o/UCQTCmJ5GXZ9Qb2/gAAuhvg From: "Chandler, Jay" To: Subject: RE: LDAP home directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:10:30 -0000 At this point, we've no need for Samba-- our AD is separate from our LDAP directory, and the integration is handled elsewhere. =20 Unfortunately we have about 50K LDAP users, so creating local users for all of them is unfeasible unless there's a batch process to do this. I know it's possible under CentOS (I think via OpenLDAP?) with a minimum of hassle... -- Jay Chandler Network Administrator, Chapman University 714.628.7249 / chandler@chapman.edu Ethernet, n. What one uses to catch the Etherbunny. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jahilliya Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:49 PM To: Chandler, Jay Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LDAP home directories Hey, We are using FreeBSD with Samba+OpenLDAP, each user effectively needs mapping to a local user so what we've used to give us the ability to type : cd ~user and get their home dir, as well as type : id 10000 to get their username/groups... is to install nss_ldap, pam_ldap, edit the files in /etc/pam.d/, there is a lot of good information on this, have a look at the Samba docs as well as the documentation for pam_ldap and nss_ldap. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 06:14:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C9416A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F42943D4C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:14:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Ga4hZ-0001MP-3J for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:14:53 +0200 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:14:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Zbigniew Szalbot X-X-Sender: zbyszek@192.168.11.51 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20061018081257.X4696@192.168.11.51> References: <20061018000853.O49453@192.168.11.51> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: ntpd not adjusting the clock? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:14:24 -0000 Hello, On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Unless you've got additional restrict lines which permit some hosts to make > changes, using only "restrict default ignore" will prevent ntpd from paying > attention to the timeservers you've listed and it will even prevent ntpd from > changing the local clock or being administered via ntpq from localhost. Ok. Thanks a lot. I have corrected it, restarted ntpd and now watching the clock. The time has not been immediately adjusted but I guess it should change in the longer run? Thank you all of you who have responded. It was very helpful. -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 06:50:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA8416A415 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749AE43D49 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:50:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so240411pye for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:50:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=rRRsEs14yYwWnzMq9BsrVLYfFOORQswSngXSXOUhjRki7l0gUA+15wZ/t0Ow9372yPVLyXW+bDyw9pQFSUUo7V2l/DI6CPlvizEstywyvY3jxdtbftJB4T5hbJ9d8YQbjLn2MhfYRcDBBbeW2LjrXjmxOeXRy0GgYvIs7axNSrI= Received: by 10.35.66.12 with SMTP id t12mr17095947pyk; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakshmi.susmita.org ( [59.92.57.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q71sm630511pyg.2006.10.17.23.50.40; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lakshmi.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2ABAF23A9E5; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:20:36 +0530 (IST) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:20:35 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061018065035.GB18538@lakshmi.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4534DB69.1000802@2ainfo.it> <20061018003059.11deef50@localhost> <20061018033704.GA791@powerfull.bsd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061018033704.GA791@powerfull.bsd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: Re: Problem updating mplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:50:46 -0000 On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 10:37:04PM -0500, ajm wrote: > "Try the following as root or su to root" > > cd /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer > make config > > "then deselect from the menu the Win32 option" > > make install clean > > "note: you will not have win32 codecs support" Normally with mplayer I just download the latest and greatest from mplayerhq.hu and just hit configure && gmake... As to win32 codes, it is just a binary blob you have to unpack to a standard location. I have it unpacked under /usr/lib/win32 in my box. The instructions are clearly given in the mplayer website and the associated html documentation. Sorry, I am not able to get that out of the top of my head since it is a whie since I did that. The advantage is that you have latest and most optimised mplayer for your platform. You may prefer the ports install strategy if you are a puritan... HTH, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 07:25:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07D216A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:25:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thc321@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC8F43D58 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:25:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thc321@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout03/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9I7QvEM016645 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.254.100] (71-208-232-138.hlrn.qwest.net [71.208.232.138]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin02/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9I7P7V4001157 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Tyler Thompson Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:28:45 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Subject: PCI wireless adapter card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:25:12 -0000 i need a driver for a Wireless-G PCI adapter card with SpeedBooster, the model number is WMP54GS. and instructions on installing the driver. I am new to BSD. I am running Desktop BSD 1.0 AMD 64. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 07:54:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9436516A412 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5FC843D49 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:54:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.7.193] (68.Red-80-34-55.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.34.55.68]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C2B2E037; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:54:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4535DDA9.503@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:54:17 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chandler, Jay" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LDAP home directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:54:26 -0000 Chandler, Jay wrote: > Does anyone have a way to do home directory mapping through LDAP? We've > got user directories mounted via NFS to /usr/users and would like to be > able to type in "cd ~ted" and go to Ted's home directory, perhaps in > /usr/users/students/ted. nss_ldap allows you to map an LDAP parameter to a system parameter. There is nss_ldap in ports, but also this summer's Summer Of Code a project was aimed at creating a FreeBSD native nss_ldap. pam_ldap is needed if you want to use ldap for authentication. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 08:08:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2A916A40F for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:08:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@solink.ru) Received: from mail.academ.org (mail.academ.org [81.1.226.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169E943D53 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:08:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@solink.ru) Received: from mail.academ.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.academ.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBD1BA60F for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:31:52 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from bocha.solink.office (solink.academ.org [85.118.228.14]) by mail.academ.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B229BA4F4 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:31:52 +0700 (NOVST) From: Bachilo Dmitry Organization: Solink Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:31:53 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610181431.54221.root@solink.ru> X-AV-Checked: ClamAV Subject: Re: PCI wireless adapter card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:08:24 -0000 =F7 =D3=CF=CF=C2=DD=C5=CE=C9=C9 =CF=D4 =F3=D2=C5=C4=C1 18 =CF=CB=D4=D1=C2= =D2=D1 2006 14:28 Tyler Thompson =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC(a): > i need a driver for a Wireless-G PCI adapter card with SpeedBooster, > the model number is WMP54GS. and instructions on installing the > driver. I am new to BSD. I am running Desktop BSD 1.0 AMD 64. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" simply use ndisgen, but I'm not shure if it works on AMD64. ndisgen is a script that allows you to convert Windows NDIS drivers intu=20 =46reeBSD's ones. =2D-=20 =2D----------------------- =F3 =D5=D7=C1=D6=C5=CE=C9=C5=CD, =E2=C1=DE=C9=CC=CF =E4=CD=C9=D4=D2=C9=CA =F2=D5=CB=CF=D7=CF=C4=C9=D4=C5=CC=D8 =CF=D4=C4=C5=CC=C1 =D3=C9=D3=D4=C5=CD= =CE=CF=CA =C9=CE=D4=C5=C7=D2=C1=C3=C9=C9 =EF=EF=EF "=EB=CF=CD=D0=C1=CE=C9=D1 =F3=CF=EC=C9=CE=CB" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 08:25:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F2A16A4DA for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:25:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11F843D5D for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:25:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Ga6jx-00023V-2U; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:25:29 +0200 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:25:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Zbigniew Szalbot X-X-Sender: zbyszek@192.168.11.51 To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4535C0EB.8000700@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: <20061018102336.K7827@192.168.11.51> References: <20061018000853.O49453@192.168.11.51> <4535C0EB.8000700@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd not adjusting the clock? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:25:41 -0000 Hello, On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: >>> restrict default ignore >>> driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift > That means that anyone can connect to your NTP daemon and poll it for time > service or use ntpdc to muck around with your configuration. It's better > to use at minimum: > > restrict default nopeer nomodify > restrict localhost I did that - thank you. That was my purpose in using restrict but I must have misunderstood the handbook in that respect. Anyway, I restarted ntpd and as of now the 40 second differance is down to about 10 seconds so it is working. Thank you very much! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 10:56:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B271016A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB7243D49 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:56:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ga95g-0006CV-6Y; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:56:04 +0100 Received: from [82.41.32.39] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ga95X-00017Y-Nx; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:55:55 +0100 Message-ID: <4536083B.6020805@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:55:55 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20061018000853.O49453@192.168.11.51> <4535C0EB.8000700@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4535C0EB.8000700@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ntpd not adjusting the clock? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:56:06 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: >That means that anyone can connect to your NTP daemon and poll it for time >service or use ntpdc to muck around with your configuration. It's better >to use at minimum: > > restrict default nopeer nomodify > restrict localhost > > You *can* block that kind of unwanted external access with a firewall, though it can get tricky with NAT in the equation. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 11:05:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0102816A412 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1C143D46 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:05:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14321DB20CC for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:05:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:05:49 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: QIGVu3K202wfBSXsHcxy/DukO5nz2Lbc2nyPg4IKCxdT 1161169549 Received: from gumby.localdomain (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EBD8465 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:05:49 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:05:43 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <1161090366.26145.39.camel@freebsd> In-Reply-To: <1161090366.26145.39.camel@freebsd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610181205.44677.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Flash Plugin not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:05:50 -0000 On Tuesday 17 October 2006 14:06, Bob M. wrote: > I think it was Chris Hobbs who was nice enough to translate to english: > > http://altbit.org/pseudorandom/unixlike_translation.txt > These instructions are for the native Firefox, you don't need to do any of this for linux-firefox. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 11:14:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156C016A47E for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:14:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.murphy@cogeco.ca) Received: from fep3.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A541443D7C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:13:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paul.murphy@cogeco.ca) Received: from mercury.upton.net (d141-24-210.home.cgocable.net [24.141.24.210]) by fep3.cogeco.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF706DDA; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:13:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (earth.upton.net [192.168.0.3]) by mercury.upton.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D95660D2; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:13:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <45360C5F.4090400@cogeco.ca> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:13:35 -0400 From: Paul Murphy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20060909 Thunderbird/1.5.0.7 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <45357AF8.1020101@rithy4u.net> <20061018014819.GA72686@gothmog.pc> In-Reply-To: <20061018014819.GA72686@gothmog.pc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0642-0, 17/10/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, root@rithy4u.net Subject: Re: File system full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:14:05 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2006-10-18 07:53, "Office of CEO- rithy4u.NET" wrote: >> Dear All, >> My firewall server was running out of space on / partition I >> have try to reboot/fsck and delete all unneccessary files >> inside / but I still get 12 MB of free space with total 495 MB >> worth of that partition. Any ideas? > > First of all, try to track down where all the space has gone, by > using `df' and `du' with the -x option. For example, you can get > a good idea of which places in your root filesystem are the top-10 > users of space with: > > # cd / > # du -xm . | sort -nr | head -10 > > If this doesn't show up a lot of stuff, then there's probably a > rogue process which has opened a file and then removed it, so > it's not directly visible by traversing the tree with `du', but > you can still look for it with: > > # fstat -f / | sort -k +8 > > After you get this sort of information, we can make more informed > suggestions about the best way to move forward :) > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I have been trying to track down a similar problem! Using the above method I think I have found 'natd' to be the culprit. Should 'natd' receive a signal when 'alias.log' rolls over? Restarting 'natd' seems to have releases some megabytes. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0642-0, 17/10/2006 Tested on: 18/10/2006 7:13:37 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 11:35:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A143C16A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:35:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E8143D45 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:35:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A38DB54A3 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:35:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:35:12 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: lfCDJbLfG6wLSOQ43J/09+a9G9oAKZRUgEvKYcOwMV3o 1161171311 Received: from gumby.localdomain (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB287A23 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:35:11 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:35:06 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610181235.08113.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Flash Plugin not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:35:13 -0000 On Monday 16 October 2006 06:37, Subhro wrote: > Hello, > > I am running FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE on i386 hardware. I have installed > linux-firefox and linux-flashplugin from the ports collection. The > same is iterated by pkg_info. > > [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ pkg_info | grep flash > linux-flashplugin-7.0r68 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin > [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ linux-firefox > [bsdboy@phoenix ~]$ pkg_info | grep firefox > firefox-1.5.0.7,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > linux-firefox-1.5.0.7 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > However when I am trying to open any sites from linux-firefox, the > embedded flash applications are not displayed. Also the browser/usr/local/bin/firefox > complains about missing plugin. I notice that you have both versions of Firefox. That's OK, but you can only run one at a time. If you have a native Firefox process running and you try to open linux-firefox, it just causes the original process to open a new window. I'm wondering if that's what's happened here. What I have at the moment is native Firefox and linux-opera. I found that linux-firefox had unclear fonts - possibly they weren't properly anti-aliased. There were also some problems with linux-firefox not being able to browse to external applications. Opera is better under linux emulation, in my experience, and can use the flash-plugin. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 11:46:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5D016A415 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:46:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EA143D66 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:46:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143F3DB5C74 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:46:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:46:23 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: yTpD52C8VO5UK4pfTEKYoTnLVMBG89y0CTvge8ZReSeD 1161171983 Received: from gumby.localdomain (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384BF636C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:46:23 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:46:17 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <3A36FE52-9F48-45D2-BEF2-D538331CA299@todoo.biz> <20061016180107.GB76982@mail0.dcoder.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610181246.18873.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Upgrading in the same RELENG without shutdown ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:46:31 -0000 On Monday 16 October 2006 21:56, bsd wrote: > From what I have read so far I guess I'll stick to the 'classic' > procedure and boot in single user to do the merging things. I never bother with mergemaster if it's just a point release. These usually just involve small patches. No-one is going to change file formats or binary compatability on a point release. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 11:56:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1D816A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:56:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from M.Apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B177C43D46 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:56:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from M.Apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([193.31.10.34]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:55:51 +0200 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9IBud1x010331 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:56:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to m.apitz@oclcpica.org using -f Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:56:39 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061018115639.GA10154@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2006 11:55:51.0406 (UTC) FILETIME=[5BBD30E0:01C6F2AC] Subject: desktop application for cataloging books, DVD, ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:56:43 -0000 Hi, I need a small desktop application for cataloging my books and DVD at home in FreeBSD. I tried to port mcatalog from the ports in 6.0R, which is old and marked as broken; I've fetched the sources from the master side, which has version 0.2 already, but this does not configure on my 6.0R depending on newer gtk stuff, the 0.1 is broken in the Makefiles and sources aswell; So, is there any other small cataloging application for FreeBSD? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC PICA GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclcpica.org/ http://guru.UnixLand.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 12:06:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525E416A40F for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769A143D5A for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:06:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C90DB62BC for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:06:01 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: b1lk52TNaQic8Gko0U/s0R85mAfIFs+sTkhYmooLdsD0 1161173161 Received: from gumby.localdomain (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9407232 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:06:01 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:05:56 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <4534DB69.1000802@2ainfo.it> In-Reply-To: <4534DB69.1000802@2ainfo.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610181305.58049.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Problem updating mplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:06:01 -0000 On Tuesday 17 October 2006 14:32, Filippo Moretti wrote: > When I tried portupgrade mplayer it failed with the following message > ==> mplayer-0.99.8_5 depends on file: > /usr/local/lib/win32/win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8_1,1 - not found > ===> Verifying reinstall for > /usr/local/lib/win32/win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8_1,1 in > /usr/ports/multimedia/win32-codecs > ===> win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8_1,1 is forbidden: Remote code execution: > http://vuxml.FreeBSD.org/24f6b1eb-43d5-11db-81e1-000e0c2e438a.html. > *** Error code 1 > What can be done to solve this problem? The problem is with the quicktime codecs. Go to the port directory, do a make config and deselect quicktime. For future reference, having a quick look at the Makefile will often point you in the right direction. In this case: .if defined(WITH_QUICKTIME) FORBIDDEN= Remote code execution: http://vuxml.FreeBSD.org/24f6b1eb-43d5-11db-81e1-000e0c2e438a.html ADDITIONAL_CODECS_DISTFILES+= qt63dlls-20050115.tar.bz2 \ qtextras-20041107.tar.bz2 PLIST_SUB+= QUICKTIME="" .else From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 12:14:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D2A16A618 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micke@litet.se) Received: from mxfep01.bredband.com (mxfep01.bredband.com [195.54.107.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8677843D45 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:14:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micke@litet.se) Received: from ironport2.bredband.com ([195.54.107.84] [195.54.107.84]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20061018121409.PBTE953.mxfep01.bredband.com@ironport2.bredband.com> for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:14:09 +0200 Received: from c-9046e255.1068-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO nystrom.mine.nu) ([85.226.70.144]) by ironport2.bredband.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES256-SHA; 18 Oct 2006 14:14:09 +0200 Received: from email.litet.se (localhost.nystrom.mine.nu [127.0.0.1]) by nystrom.mine.nu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9ICE37a035709; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:14:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from micke@litet.se) Received: from 193.15.240.60 (SquirrelMail authenticated user miny) by email.litet.se with HTTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:14:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <25323.193.15.240.60.1161173644.squirrel@email.litet.se> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:14:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Mikael =?iso-8859-1?Q?Nystr=F6m?= To: martin_tsanov@yahoo.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.5/2041/Wed Oct 18 08:29:52 2006 on nystrom.mine.nu X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL, SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on nystrom.mine.nu Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail with SpamAssassin and ClamAV X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:14:12 -0000 Do a cd /etc/mail and run make install, to install myhost.cf as sendmail.cf, since sendmail uses sendmail.cf. Restart sendmail and clamav_milter. //Micke Martin Tsanov wrote: >> Do I need to edit sendmail.cf as well? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 12:19:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9EE16A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BDE43D6D for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:19:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015A5DB5684 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:19:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:19:41 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: W+J9trCHrWu6aVh/dq8AV4z+TOEhIqnqQC0crP5IGf2m 1161173981 Received: from gumby.localdomain (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3318E7637 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:19:41 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:19:28 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <20061017064757.4C88.GERARD@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20061017064757.4C88.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610181319.37551.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Problem with Portsnap Update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:19:40 -0000 On Tuesday 17 October 2006 11:56, Gerard Seibert wrote: > I encountered this immediately after running 'portsnap' this moring: > > /usr/sbin/pkg_version -vIL= > > py25-tkinter-2.5_1 > succeeds index (index has 2.4.3_1) > python-2.5 < needs updating (index has 2.4.3,1) > python24-2.4.3_2 < needs updating (index has 2.4.3_3) > python25-2.5 > > > 'python-2.5' does not even appear to exist in the ports tree. > 'py25-tkinter-2.5_1' also seems to have a problem. Is there something > wrong with this mornings portsnap update? The lang/python port was updated to python 2.5 and then reverted to 2.4 after compatability problems were found. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 12:30:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9809C16A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:30:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8687843D46 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:30:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 18 Oct 2006 08:30:28 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,324,1157342400"; d="scan'208"; a="325077060:sNHT120875790" Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id HHZ59195; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:30:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-203-219.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.203.219]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 18 Oct 2006 08:29:56 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,324,1157342400"; d="scan'208"; a="295625826:sNHT32180264" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17718.7623.754925.503358@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:27:51 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45360C5F.4090400@cogeco.ca> References: <45357AF8.1020101@rithy4u.net> <20061018014819.GA72686@gothmog.pc> <45360C5F.4090400@cogeco.ca> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090202.45361DF9.0005,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.113/2006-07-26 Subject: Re: File system full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:30:29 -0000 Paul Murphy writes: > I have been trying to track down a similar problem! Using the > above method I think I have found 'natd' to be the culprit. > Should 'natd' receive a signal when 'alias.log' rolls over? > Restarting 'natd' seems to have releases some megabytes. That's not actually clear from the man page. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 12:34:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5241716A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing-lists@msdi.ca) Received: from mail02.msdihosting.net (9.67-18-64.networks.msdihosting.net [64.18.67.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA9443D75 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:34:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mailing-lists@msdi.ca) Received: from ian.msdi.ca ([70.83.204.175]) by mail02.msdihosting.net ((iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003))) with SMTP id QRI44553 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:34:00 -0400 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20061018082011.066e8b60@msdi.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:34:17 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ian Lord Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Small Redundant web/mail setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:34:47 -0000 Hi, I need to setup a high-availability setup for mail/web setup I was thinking about the following setup: 4 servers total: Data Servers: 1 Server holding all the websites data and mail messages. It would serve these files via nfs to the application servers. It would also run mysql A second server Also sharing it's content via nfs, replicating it's data though rsync each ?? minutes. The mysql would run as a slave of the primary Application Servers: Both servers would be running apache, php, sendmail and posfix and would serve content from the share nfs drive. 1- Is this a viable solution, I mean by that, Is it Like this big ISP are set up ? 2- Is there a better way to replicate data than RSYNC (without going to san of expensive hardware) ? If not, is there a hotsync feature (I mean by that as soon as server A modify something, server B knows and replicate)? I would appreciate if you could give me feedbacks, suggestions, or if you see any problem that might happen with this kind of setup. Thanks a lot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 12:43:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74B416A415 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:43:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2957543D49 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:43:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9IChd5q007259 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:43:39 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.101] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9IChUwf027553 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:43:37 -0700 Message-ID: <45362151.8040100@u.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:42:57 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060929) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <20061017135829.GA56234@gothmog.pc> <17716.62978.449526.12593@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <45350FE9.1060303@schrodinger.com> In-Reply-To: <45350FE9.1060303@schrodinger.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.266434, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.10.18.50442 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_NAME_BODY 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:43:43 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Simon Gao wrote: > Robert Huff wrote: >> Jeff Mohler writes: >> >> >>> > > Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. >>> >>> Linux clearly supports many more bugs than FreeBSD as well. >>> >> "Linux is closer to the bleeding edge; always remember that >> blood will usually be yours." >> >> >> Robert Huff > > With Gentoo, installing and upgrading to the most up-to-date packages is > a choice up to end users. Gentoo is all about choice. One can definitely > choose to use packages a few years behind. > > Simon Found out some cool make targets by chance.. - From /usr/src/Makefile: # universe - *Really* build *everything* (buildworld and # all kernels on all architectures). # buildworld - Rebuild *everything*, including glue to help do # upgrades. # installworld - Install everything built by "buildworld". # world - buildworld + installworld. # buildkernel - Rebuild the kernel and the kernel-modules. # installkernel - Install the kernel and the kernel-modules. # installkernel.debug # reinstallkernel - Reinstall the kernel and the kernel-modules. # reinstallkernel.debug # kernel - buildkernel + installkernel. # update - Convenient way to update your source tree (cvs). # check-old - Print a list of old files/directories in the system. # delete-old - Delete obsolete files and directories interactively. # delete-old-libs - Delete obsolete libraries interactively. # # This makefile is simple by design. The FreeBSD make automatically reads # the /usr/share/mk/sys.mk unless the -m argument is specified on the # command line. By keeping this makefile simple, it doesn't matter too # much how different the installed mk files are from those in the source # tree. This makefile executes a child make process, forcing it to use # the mk files from the source tree which are supposed to DTRT. # # The user-driven targets (as listed above) are implemented in Makefile.inc1. # # If you want to build your system from source be sure that /usr/obj has # at least 400MB of diskspace available. # # For individuals wanting to build from the sources currently on their # system, the simple instructions are: # # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make world' # # For individuals wanting to upgrade their sources (even if only a # delta of a few days): # # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `make delete-old' # 9. `mergemaster' # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) So, this helps a bit when updating your system. Didn't realize that the delete-old and delete-old-libs make targets existed, nor kernel.. - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFNiFR6CkrZkzMC68RAgROAJ9HFYZiWxU1/BvLc/u9gwu2TOkHDQCcC8WM bMNx1Y+xKfIXwpsZiOR9908= =ESy8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 12:54:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CFE16A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:54:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF94643D67 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:54:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GaAw2-0000gP-RT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:54:14 +0200 Received: from c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.147.85.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:54:14 +0200 Received: from jdarnold by c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:54:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonathan Arnold Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:53:18 -0400 Lines: 73 Message-ID: References: <200610171801.44321.amistry@am-productions.biz> <200610180209.00047.amistry@am-productions.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060804) In-Reply-To: <200610180209.00047.amistry@am-productions.biz> Sender: news Subject: Re: Problems with USB Palm sync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:54:27 -0000 Anish Mistry wrote: > On Tuesday 17 October 2006 23:22, Jonathan Arnold wrote: >> Anish Mistry wrote: >>> On Tuesday 17 October 2006 16:29, Jonathan Arnold wrote: >>>> Has anyone had any luck using pilot-link to sync JPilot to a >>>> Palm device via the USB? I'm trying to sync my Handspring Visor >>>> and it just doesn't seem to be noticing it. I have the following >>>> in my /dev/usbd.conf file: >>> First you shouldn't be using usbd.conf. You should be using >>> devd.conf and devfs.rules. >>> >>> Disable usbd. >>> >>> Add to devd.conf: >>> attach 0 { >>> device-name "ugen[0-9]+"; >>> match "vendor" "0x082d"; >>> match "product" "0x0100"; >>> match "release" "0x0100"; >>> action "/usr/local/sbin/pilot-sync-ugen.sh $device-name"; >>> }; >>> >>> Setup devfs.rules if you have yet to do it: >>> http://am-productions.biz/docs/devfs.rules.php >>> >>> Add your user to the operator group or change the mode to 0666 >>> below. Add to devfs.rules: >>> add path 'ugen*' group operator >>> add path 'ugen*' mode 0660 >>> >>> In /usr/local/sbin/pilot-sync-ugen.sh: >>> #!/bin/sh >>> # >>> JPILOT=/usr/X11R6/bin/jpilot-sync >>> JPILOT_USER=your_username_here >>> export JPILOT_HOME=/home/$JPILOT_USER >>> PILOTPORT=usb:/dev/$1 >>> COMMAND=`echo $JPILOT -p $PILOTPORT -b` >>> # run command ie. (sync) >>> /usr/bin/su $JPILOT_USER -c "$COMMAND" >> Thanks, this seems to work a little better. Now, when I hit the >> Hot Sync button on the cradle, I get the feedback that there's a >> connection and it says "Identifying user" on the Visor, but it just >> hangs there and eventually gives up. If I comment out the action >> and try it from the commandline, pilot-xfer says " Listening for >> incoming connection on usb:/dev/ugen0... ". It seems to me that >> both are waiting for the other to initiate something. ugen0 doesn't >> get created until I hit the HotSync button, but the pilot-link >> stuff seems to be waiting for that to happen again? > You'll need to install the user: > # install pilot-link username > COMMAND=`echo /usr/local/bin/install-user -p $PILOTPORT -u > $JPILOT_USER -i 1001` I thought it might be something like this, so I played quite a bit last night trying to get this command to work, but still no joy in mudville. I replaced the jpilot-sync COMMAND line with the install-user one, but it still does the same thing. I press the hot sync button, I get the confirmation that a connection was made from the Visor, but both ends just sit there at that point. I feel like I'm ever so close and am just missing one tweak to push it over into usability. BTW, what is the 'uvisor' driver for? Should I be trying to use this one instead of the 'ugen', which is the generic interface? -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 12:57:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334ED16A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:57:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DA543D78 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:57:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9ICvNbf012133 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:57:26 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9ICvvt8024987; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:57:59 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9ICvt12024986; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:57:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:57:55 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Paul Murphy Message-ID: <20061018125755.GB15285@gothmog.pc> References: <45357AF8.1020101@rithy4u.net> <20061018014819.GA72686@gothmog.pc> <45360C5F.4090400@cogeco.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45360C5F.4090400@cogeco.ca> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.584, required 5, AWL -1.18, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, DOMAIN_4U2 1.99, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, root@rithy4u.net Subject: Re: File system full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:57:56 -0000 On 2006-10-18 07:13, Paul Murphy wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2006-10-18 07:53, "Office of CEO- rithy4u.NET" wrote: >>> Dear All, >>> My firewall server was running out of space on / partition I >>> have try to reboot/fsck and delete all unneccessary files >>> inside / but I still get 12 MB of free space with total 495 MB >>> worth of that partition. Any ideas? >> >> First of all, try to track down where all the space has gone, by >> using `df' and `du' with the -x option. For example, you can get >> a good idea of which places in your root filesystem are the top-10 >> users of space with: >> >> # cd / >> # du -xm . | sort -nr | head -10 >> >> If this doesn't show up a lot of stuff, then there's probably a >> rogue process which has opened a file and then removed it, so >> it's not directly visible by traversing the tree with `du', but >> you can still look for it with: >> >> # fstat -f / | sort -k +8 >> >> After you get this sort of information, we can make more informed >> suggestions about the best way to move forward :) > > I have been trying to track down a similar problem! Using the above > method I think I have found 'natd' to be the culprit. Should 'natd' > receive a signal when 'alias.log' rolls over? Restarting 'natd' seems > to have releases some megabytes. Nice catch, Paul! The `alias.log' file is supposed to be in `/var/log', but I guess if you use a single root filesystem for everything, this can end up filling the root filesystem. The file `alias.log' is not rotated by `newsyslog.conf', so maybe we should add it there? Then we can let `newsyslog' signal `natd' by: %%% diff -r 4474abb9619a etc/newsyslog.conf --- a/etc/newsyslog.conf Fri Oct 13 17:34:54 2006 +0300 +++ b/etc/newsyslog.conf Wed Oct 18 15:54:52 2006 +0300 @@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ # # logfilename [owner:group] mode count size when flags [/pid_file] [sig_num] /var/log/all.log 600 7 * @T00 J +/var/log/alias.log 600 7 100 * JC /var/run/natd.pid /var/log/amd.log 644 7 100 * J /var/log/auth.log 600 7 100 * JC /var/log/console.log 600 5 100 * J %%% Can you please add this line to your newsyslog.conf file and let it run for a while to see if it prevents the `alias.log' file of `natd' to fill your /var/log filesystem? I don't use `natd', so I can't test this myself for a long enough period. Regards, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 13:07:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAA816A40F for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.tsanov@yahoo.com) Received: from web60322.mail.yahoo.com (web60322.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4809543D4C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:07:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.tsanov@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 83488 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Oct 2006 13:07:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=uHngSZXgXRUmeResoAn3oFiJbOMj9RhS0KIGYU46vcnJr6sveZ/EYK0Lf/OrAy5q0eU9AY7it1tYi9zsGdtwSO9WgB2VARKPlGhcnY6aJOu+wiol2GHTEQxWy50KKr3Qy6Cwq0tTIpfJZxNgI5xNtKUfusvkfCwoNXrR50R2XAU= ; Message-ID: <20061018130742.83486.qmail@web60322.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [71.201.221.8] by web60322.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:07:42 PDT Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:07:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Martin Tsanov To: Mikael "Nyström" In-Reply-To: <25323.193.15.240.60.1161173644.squirrel@email.litet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail with SpamAssassin and ClamAV X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:07:44 -0000 --- Mikael Nyström wrote: > > Do a cd /etc/mail and run make install, to install > myhost.cf as > sendmail.cf, since sendmail uses sendmail.cf. > Restart sendmail and > clamav_milter. > Thanks > //Micke > > Martin Tsanov wrote: > > >> Do I need to edit sendmail.cf as well? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 13:35:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C490316A416 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA4143D5E for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:35:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [172.16.3.238] (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9IDYPM1065727 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:34:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k9IDYPM1065727 Message-ID: <45362D5B.3060401@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:34:19 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060919) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <45357AF8.1020101@rithy4u.net> <20061018014819.GA72686@gothmog.pc> <45360C5F.4090400@cogeco.ca> <20061018125755.GB15285@gothmog.pc> In-Reply-To: <20061018125755.GB15285@gothmog.pc> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7A9B6FA425AFFC64173F2816" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:35:07 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.5/2041/Wed Oct 18 07:29:52 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING, DOMAIN_4U2, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Paul Murphy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, root@rithy4u.net Subject: Re: File system full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:35:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7A9B6FA425AFFC64173F2816 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2006-10-18 07:13, Paul Murphy wrote: >> Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>> On 2006-10-18 07:53, "Office of CEO- rithy4u.NET" = wrote: >>>> Dear All, >>>> My firewall server was running out of space on / partition I >>>> have try to reboot/fsck and delete all unneccessary files >>>> inside / but I still get 12 MB of free space with total 495 MB >>>> worth of that partition. Any ideas? >>> First of all, try to track down where all the space has gone, by >>> using `df' and `du' with the -x option. For example, you can get >>> a good idea of which places in your root filesystem are the top-10 >>> users of space with: >>> >>> # cd / >>> # du -xm . | sort -nr | head -10 >>> >>> If this doesn't show up a lot of stuff, then there's probably a >>> rogue process which has opened a file and then removed it, so >>> it's not directly visible by traversing the tree with `du', but >>> you can still look for it with: >>> >>> # fstat -f / | sort -k +8 >>> >>> After you get this sort of information, we can make more informed >>> suggestions about the best way to move forward :) >> I have been trying to track down a similar problem! Using the above >> method I think I have found 'natd' to be the culprit. Should 'natd' >> receive a signal when 'alias.log' rolls over? Restarting 'natd' seems >> to have releases some megabytes. >=20 > Nice catch, Paul! >=20 > The `alias.log' file is supposed to be in `/var/log', but I guess if yo= u > use a single root filesystem for everything, this can end up filling th= e > root filesystem. >=20 > The file `alias.log' is not rotated by `newsyslog.conf', so maybe we > should add it there? Then we can let `newsyslog' signal `natd' by: >=20 > %%% > diff -r 4474abb9619a etc/newsyslog.conf > --- a/etc/newsyslog.conf Fri Oct 13 17:34:54 2006 +0300 > +++ b/etc/newsyslog.conf Wed Oct 18 15:54:52 2006 +0300 > @@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ > # > # logfilename [owner:group] mode count size when flags [/= pid_file] [sig_num] > /var/log/all.log 600 7 * @T00 J > +/var/log/alias.log 600 7 100 * JC /var/run/natd.pid > /var/log/amd.log 644 7 100 * J > /var/log/auth.log 600 7 100 * JC > /var/log/console.log 600 5 100 * J > %%% >=20 > Can you please add this line to your newsyslog.conf file and let it run= > for a while to see if it prevents the `alias.log' file of `natd' to fil= l > your /var/log filesystem? >=20 > I don't use `natd', so I can't test this myself for a long enough > period. natd doesn't do the close and re-open all filehandles thing on receipt of SIGHUP which pretty much makes it unsuitable for use with newsyslog. (SIGHUP is caught by natd, but the only thing it does is cause natd to update its idea of what the IP address is on the nat'ed interface.) There doesn't seem to be any signal that you can send natd with the usual 'reread all config files and re-open all file descriptors' effect that most daemons understand. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW, UK --------------enig7A9B6FA425AFFC64173F2816 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFNi1g8Mjk52CukIwRAw6xAJ42LB/OUqvx77VU8dCdYjvWJVcedACdHuNB lHWtuls5XNSljbqP96sCxRg= =q/HA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7A9B6FA425AFFC64173F2816-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 13:56:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10AA16A412; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:56:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from turgeon.martin@gmail.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6B843D45; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:56:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from turgeon.martin@gmail.com) Received: from martinlaptop ([70.81.169.115]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0J7C00A30418UN90@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca>; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:56:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:56:12 -0400 From: Martin Turgeon To: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <0J7C00A3541CUN90@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-index: AcbyvSvyTupTIOwvRfqNjRmitjV4Aw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Routing with external interface doesn't work after a while X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:56:02 -0000 Hi everyone, I've been reading the mailing list for a while, but it's my first post. I'm not sure what is causing the problem so I'm posting to multiple lists. I'm running FreeBSD 6.1 on a Celeron 2.8GHz with 512Mo of RAM. It looks likes after a while (a couple of weeks) the routing isn't working anymore, but only with the external interface (the one connected to my cable modem from Videotron in Montreal). The box is acting as the gateway of the network with PF, OpenVPN 2.0.5-1 and ISC-DHCPd 3.0.3-1 running. The problem also occurred on FreeBSD 6.0 on another box. The routing table looks ok. The external interface is still receiving ARP requests but nothing is going out from my internal network. When I run tcpdump on my internal interface I can see the request to the DNS server of my ISP but running tcpdump on the external interface isn't showing anything related to that. It's like if the packet disappeared. Tcpdump on pflog0 isn't showing any good traffic that is being blocked Here's what I tried with no result: I tried to flush the states with pfctl -Fs I tried to reload the NAT with pfctl -N The solution was to renew the address of the external interface with dhclient fxp0. I looked back at the routing table after the dhclient fxp0 and nothing changed except the address of the default gateway because my IP address changed of subnetwork. I don't think it's related to the ISP because I'm not seeing any packet going out of the external interface. Here is a little more detail about the box: Uname -a: FreeBSD gateway.bureau.own 6.1-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p5 #2: Fri Sep 15 14:59:44 EDT 2006 root@gateway.bureau.own:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/OPTIK i386 The external interface is a Intel 10/100 onboard an Asus motherboard with fxp driver Thanks for your help Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 14:05:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4AF16A40F for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:05:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from signal.itea.ntnu.no (signal.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.190.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1C743D45 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:05:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by signal.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFBB33FE7 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:05:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by signal.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:05:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 47970 invoked by uid 88); 18 Oct 2006 16:05:13 +0200 Received: from 10.84-48-62.nextgentel.com (HELO [10.0.0.8]) (84.48.62.10) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:05:12 +0200 Message-ID: <4536341D.9050007@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:03:09 +0200 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Lord References: <7.0.1.0.2.20061018082011.066e8b60@msdi.ca> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20061018082011.066e8b60@msdi.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=9198BB40; url=mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7B36647F3D4812FF565AEF70" X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small Redundant web/mail setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:05:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7B36647F3D4812FF565AEF70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ian Lord wrote: > 2- Is there a better way to replicate data than RSYNC (without going to= > san of expensive hardware) ? If not, is there a hotsync feature (I mean= > by that as soon as server A modify something, server B knows and > replicate)? I've never tried the following setup myself, but you should look into the possibility of using geom ggated/ggatec and gmirror in combination. Basically ggated/ggatec will export the raw block device over the net, so that another computer may use it in a geom stack. You could have the second computer export it's disk device, and let the first one use it in a mirror (raid) setup. Since ggated on the the second computer would claim the device, I think you could only mount it read-only, but it would be synced live, I think. Note that I don't know these tools from experience, only from what I've picked up here and there. You would have to read up the specifics yoursel= f. Svein Halvor --------------enig7B36647F3D4812FF565AEF70 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc to get my PGP-key iD8DBQFFNjQghQg3vZGYu0ARAqW1AKDE0MO5WdKi4lJWZ//1+dytQ0pcvQCfSyOm hVpyPD1vdcF88ycpadkb7bE= =rhOT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7B36647F3D4812FF565AEF70-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 14:11:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5E916A47C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C9A43D5C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:11:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 18 Oct 2006 10:11:43 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,325,1157342400"; d="scan'208"; a="325183290:sNHT256256564" Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id HIA20158; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:11:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-203-219.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.203.219]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 18 Oct 2006 10:11:30 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,324,1157342400"; d="scan'208"; a="295711466:sNHT87970696" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17718.13715.977324.164413@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:09:23 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45362D5B.3060401@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <45357AF8.1020101@rithy4u.net> <20061018014819.GA72686@gothmog.pc> <45360C5F.4090400@cogeco.ca> <20061018125755.GB15285@gothmog.pc> <45362D5B.3060401@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090206.453635B4.00AF,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.113/2006-07-26 Subject: Re: File system full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:11:49 -0000 Matthew Seaman writes: > There doesn't seem to be any signal that you can send natd with the > usual 'reread all config files and re-open all file descriptors' > effect that most daemons understand. The next obvious questions are "would that be desirable behavior?" and "how hard would it be to implement?". Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 14:16:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3DA16A412 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timothy@open-networks.net) Received: from vscan01.westnet.com.au (vscan01.westnet.com.au [203.10.1.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1DC43D45 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:16:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from timothy@open-networks.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09218762377 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:16:07 +0800 (WST) Received: from vscan01.westnet.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vscan01.westnet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26085-02 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:16:06 +0800 (WST) Received: from [192.168.1.201] (dsl-58-6-122-137.qld.westnet.com.au [58.6.122.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vscan01.westnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A82976222E for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:16:06 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <4536377D.2020909@open-networks.net> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:17:33 +1000 From: Timothy Smith User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20051013) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: can burn cd's, can't read once burnt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:16:08 -0000 i have an odd issue with 6.0 that i've been trying to solve for ages and nobody seems to know how to answer. 1. i can mount any cd's or dvd's THAT I DIDN'T BURN. makes no difference what media is used. 2. i burn a dvd like so growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd0=bailes.iso outputs some info like this... 1608941568/1616412672 (99.5%) @3.9x, remaining 0:03 RBU 22.3% builtin_dd: 789264*2KB out @ average 1.4x1385KBps /dev/pass0: flushing cache :-[ SYNCHRONOUS FLUSH CACHE failed with SK=3h/ASC=A0h/ACQ=80h]: Input/output error and i find i have a dvd i can't mount on my machine, but under say windows i CAN mount it. the same thing applies to cdr's, although i don't get any error messages. so i know my drive works, but it appears freebsd does not. as you can see by my dmesg below i have cam loaded and working, i've also tried turning off dma in loader.conf with no success. acd0: DVDR at ata1-master PIO4 ad10: 190782MB at ata5-master PIO4 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad10s1a cd0 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 16.000MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 14:18:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6F816A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nico-freebsd-questions@schottelius.org) Received: from schottelius.org (natgw.netstream.ch [62.65.128.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4667D43D5A for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:18:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nico-freebsd-questions@schottelius.org) Received: (qmail 12657 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Oct 2006 14:17:53 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:17:53 +0200 From: Nico -telmich- Schottelius To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061018141753.GA12559@schottelius.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: echo $message | gpg -e $sender -s | netcat mailhost 25 X-Linux-Info: http://linux.schottelius.org/ X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.18-1-486 Subject: ACL: Default and other problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:18:17 -0000 --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello! I experiemented with the ACls under fbsd 5.3 and got some problems with how freebsd calculates the permissions. I followed the instructions on [0]. My aim is to install default ACLs, so a group of users (with possible broken umask) can work together on git-repositories. The idea is that the default ACL will provide ACL-based rwx access for the group 'git' (minus real permissions / mask makes rw or rwx for files, rwx for directories). I've mostly problems with default ACLs and the new permissions. I put two test-scripts to [1], plus their output (*.output) and the questions I've to the results (*.question) on a website. Any pointers on what I did wrong or in depth FreeBSD-ACL documentation are appreciated. Sincerly Nico [0]: http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200310/acl.html [1]: http://home.schottelius.org/~nico/freebsd/acl/ --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFNjeRuL75KpiFGIwRAv+GAJ0T98dc8NgPkl3XOQ2S359oF6XyuQCgkX9G LZ1reDGLgouhySSBK01dlfE= =PDu7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 14:24:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A4116A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nathan@envieweb.net) Received: from envieweb.net (d221-69-17.commercial.cgocable.net [216.221.69.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABEFD43D53 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:24:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nathan@envieweb.net) Received: from mail.envieweb.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by envieweb.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9IEMgXl000942 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:22:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nathan@envieweb.net) From: "Nathan Vidican" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:22:42 -0400 Message-Id: <20061018140538.M24325@envieweb.net> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.20ip1 20031103 X-OriginatingIP: 216.8.159.129 (ips/nvidican) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -1.36 () ALL_TRUSTED MSG NOT MARKED AS SPAM X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 216.221.69.17 Cc: Subject: selective NAT/gateway X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:24:47 -0000 Got a bit of an interesting question, wondering how others out there might have dealt with this: we have a single machine acting as router/firewall/nat gateway via DSL. It routes a small (/29) subnet of static IP's to our servers, and routes between internal (non-public) subnets. Internet traffic is then routed via NAT translation over the PPPoE link. We then use a proxy server to cache most of our web traffic. Works well, and has been for several years now but, we need to be able to deny traffic through the NAT gateway based on IP addresses or ranges. Given the following example: Internet -> DSL+Subnet -> FreeBSD router + NAT/PPPoE -> 192.168.0.1 + 192.168.1.1 + 192.168.2.1 + 192.168.3.1 (each of these private subnets is a physically different network, connected via an independant ethernet interface - multiport intel 'fxp' cards) Internal machines -> 192.168.0.100 - 192.168.0.200 Select Internal machines -> 192.168.0.10 - 192.168.0.50 Want to allow 192.168.0.10 through 192.168.0.50 full use of the gateway (enabling internet access via NAT), but deny machines in the 192.168.0.100 - 192.168.0.200 range from using NAT - yet still allow them to use 'regular' routes, (given the example below, want to allow 192.168.0.X to connect to/from 192.168.3.X for instance). So the long-question shortened, is how do I deny NAT traffic for specific IP addresses, without blocking those addresses from routing through 'normal' routes to other subnets. Essentially, I need an IPFW rule to block traffic from 192.168.0.X through via NAT, or don't I ? Any ideas/comments/suggestions greatly appreciated, (note the above is an example, not actual addresses). -- Nathan Vidican nathan@vidican.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 14:27:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B2B16A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stas@edpausa.com) Received: from skywalker.edpausa.com (mail.edpausa.com [67.88.41.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F7B43D45 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:27:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stas@edpausa.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.edpausa.com [127.0.0.1]) by skywalker.edpausa.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64334C956E for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:27:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at edpausa.com Received: from skywalker.edpausa.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (skywalker.edpausa.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DR1AonTd3qIT for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:27:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.52] (stas.edpausa.com [192.168.0.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by skywalker.edpausa.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B50CC9565 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:27:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <453639B7.90308@edpausa.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:27:03 -0400 From: Stas Khromoy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.2) Gecko/20060308 Thunderbird/1.5.0.2 Mnenhy/0.7.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: pfstat error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stas@edpausa.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:27:16 -0000 hey folks after upgrading to FreeBSD 6.1 pfstat runs with the following error pfstat: ioctl(DIOCGETSTATUS): Operation not supported by device From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 14:30:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E76916A500; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFBC643D45; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:30:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.7.193] (68.Red-80-34-55.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.34.55.68]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCF12E024; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:30:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <45363A6A.4040607@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:30:02 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Turgeon References: <0J7C00A3541CUN90@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <0J7C00A3541CUN90@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-pf@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Routing with external interface doesn't work after a while X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:30:06 -0000 Martin Turgeon wrote: > I've been reading the mailing list for a while, but it's my first post. I'm > not sure what is causing the problem so I'm posting to multiple lists. I'm > running FreeBSD 6.1 on a Celeron 2.8GHz with 512Mo of RAM. It looks likes > after a while (a couple of weeks) the routing isn't working anymore, but > only with the external interface (the one connected to my cable modem from > Videotron in Montreal). The box is acting as the gateway of the network with > PF, OpenVPN 2.0.5-1 and ISC-DHCPd 3.0.3-1 running. The problem also occurred > on FreeBSD 6.0 on another box. Is your external ip configured with dhcp? I would guess this is because your ip on the external interface changes. Your NAT rules will still go to the old ip and hence nowhere. If reloading your pf ruleset solves the problem, then this is a strong indication. There is some trick to handle that, IIRC something like this would do: ext_if=fxp0 # external interface nat on $ext_if from to ! -> ($ext_if) The () means that pf will lookup the ip on that interface, and update dynamically when the ip changes. Well, that's how I remember it, I couldn't find where I've seen it, but there is a trick like this. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 14:35:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E5516A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:35:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A46843D53 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:35:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9IEYxh3017517 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:35:00 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9IEZWmO059976; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:35:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9IEZS2l059975; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:35:28 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:35:28 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20061018143528.GB59034@gothmog.pc> References: <45357AF8.1020101@rithy4u.net> <20061018014819.GA72686@gothmog.pc> <45360C5F.4090400@cogeco.ca> <20061018125755.GB15285@gothmog.pc> <45362D5B.3060401@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45362D5B.3060401@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.578, required 5, AWL -0.18, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Paul Murphy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, root@rithy4u.net Subject: Re: File system full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:35:43 -0000 On 2006-10-18 14:34, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > The file `alias.log' is not rotated by `newsyslog.conf', so maybe we > > should add it there? Then we can let `newsyslog' signal `natd' by: > > > > %%% > > diff -r 4474abb9619a etc/newsyslog.conf > > --- a/etc/newsyslog.conf Fri Oct 13 17:34:54 2006 +0300 > > +++ b/etc/newsyslog.conf Wed Oct 18 15:54:52 2006 +0300 > > @@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ > > # > > # logfilename [owner:group] mode count size when flags [/pid_file] [sig_num] > > /var/log/all.log 600 7 * @T00 J > > +/var/log/alias.log 600 7 100 * JC /var/run/natd.pid > > /var/log/amd.log 644 7 100 * J > > /var/log/auth.log 600 7 100 * JC > > /var/log/console.log 600 5 100 * J > > %%% > > > > Can you please add this line to your newsyslog.conf file and let it run > > for a while to see if it prevents the `alias.log' file of `natd' to fill > > your /var/log filesystem? > > > > I don't use `natd', so I can't test this myself for a long enough > > period. > > natd doesn't do the close and re-open all filehandles thing on receipt > of SIGHUP which pretty much makes it unsuitable for use with newsyslog. > (SIGHUP is caught by natd, but the only thing it does is cause natd to > update its idea of what the IP address is on the nat'ed interface.) > > There doesn't seem to be any signal that you can send natd with the > usual 'reread all config files and re-open all file descriptors' > effect that most daemons understand. That's probably a bug, then, I guess. The fact that natd can keep a file open for an arbitrary amount of time and keep appending to it, until either natd dies or the file fills up an entire partition is not really a good idea :( I'll open a PR for this, and see if the people more knowledgeable with natd's internals can help with the SIGHUP-triggered actions of natd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 14:42:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8099316A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay06.ispgateway.de (smtprelay06.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8EC43D5C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:42:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 18291 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2006 14:42:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (775067@[217.50.141.50]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay06.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 18 Oct 2006 14:42:25 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:42:12 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061018164212.7fc7f424@localhost> In-Reply-To: <453639B7.90308@edpausa.com> References: <453639B7.90308@edpausa.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.4.0 (GTK+ 2.8.19; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2008-08-18.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_JD.MFKwk3hZLqlOv/enHhez"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: stas@edpausa.com Subject: Re: pfstat error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:42:28 -0000 --Sig_JD.MFKwk3hZLqlOv/enHhez Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stas Khromoy wrote: > after upgrading to FreeBSD 6.1 > pfstat runs with the following error >=20 > pfstat: ioctl(DIOCGETSTATUS): Operation not supported by device Did you _not_ use the port? You will get the error message you quoted on FreeBSD, if you don't apply /usr/ports/sysutils/pfstat/files/patch-pf.c. Fabian --=20 http://www.fabiankeil.de/ --Sig_JD.MFKwk3hZLqlOv/enHhez Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFNj1KBYqIVf93VJ0RAuYHAJ0YcH6+CoV/iE5gOqvOuRhrFrGXdACeMivb ZtZSokJGLIrFIenRolAkyck= =L42K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_JD.MFKwk3hZLqlOv/enHhez-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 14:45:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0AFB16A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:45:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob.middaugh@comcast.net) Received: from sccrmhc15.comcast.net (sccrmhc15.comcast.net [204.127.200.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5A143D46 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:45:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob.middaugh@comcast.net) Received: from freebsd (c71476f2.state.nj.us[199.20.118.242]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc15) with SMTP id <2006101814451701500lo6pke>; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:45:17 +0000 From: "Bob M." To: Tyler Thompson In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:47:32 -0400 Message-Id: <1161182852.26145.53.camel@freebsd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCI wireless adapter card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob.middaugh@comcast.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:45:20 -0000 On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 01:28 -0600, Tyler Thompson wrote: > i need a driver for a Wireless-G PCI adapter card with SpeedBooster, > the model number is WMP54GS. and instructions on installing the > driver. I am new to BSD. I am running Desktop BSD 1.0 AMD 64. There isn't a native FreeBSD driver, so you'll have to convert the windows driver using ndisgen. It's an interactive script that walks you through the process, pretty straightforward. Check the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config-network-setup.html see the man page as well: man ndisgen You'll need the .inf and .sys files from wmp54gs. Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 14:48:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F0816A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D685B43D81 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:48:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GaCi7-0000KR-3g for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:47:59 +0200 Received: from c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.147.85.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:47:59 +0200 Received: from jdarnold by c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:47:59 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonathan Arnold Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:46:53 -0400 Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <20061017104115.B2E4.GERARD@seibercom.net> <4534FE77.3000201@mikestammer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060804) In-Reply-To: <4534FE77.3000201@mikestammer.com> Sender: news Subject: Re: Installing and upgrading ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:48:27 -0000 Eric wrote: > i find portmaster > all. give it a whirl. No dependencies, its actively > maintained, etc. Oh, yeah, I'd forgotten about that one. So there are three competing technologies - portupgrade, portmaster, and portmanage. And I'm not even sure what any of them offer over the simple 'make install clean' method. Doesn't the make method also take care of dependencies? All of them have a raft of options, most of which make me dizzy:-) I've been using portmanage, but only because the syntax is real easy. -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 14:54:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D4D16A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from levchenko.i@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A7A43D45 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:54:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from levchenko.i@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so167821uge for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:54:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CiG0D6yFGcv5RKIxHCxeapoorudpL3BNV/zTCWDNoptvNMwvsi+8DQR/Ic3NYT4+vG7dpgwRs/dSAtXSNorngiRIwSvd9E50Uk19K8VPG+tyFucMMJqyfxPZT1ifk5Y3yy7Zohw9z4bdBWvOnklACJV/IkZCuyQEJj/qBpKzbQ8= Received: by 10.66.252.4 with SMTP id z4mr4060223ugh; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.233.7 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:54:41 +0300 From: "Ivan Levchenko" To: "Nathan Vidican" In-Reply-To: <20061018140538.M24325@envieweb.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061018140538.M24325@envieweb.net> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: selective NAT/gateway X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:54:43 -0000 I did the exact same thing using pf on freebsd: I added all the allowed ip addresses to a table then in the nat rule: nat on $ext_if from to any -> $ext_if (you can put the last $ext_if in parentheses if you use dchp for your external address) On 10/18/06, Nathan Vidican wrote: > Got a bit of an interesting question, wondering how others out there might > have dealt with this: > > we have a single machine acting as router/firewall/nat gateway via DSL. It > routes a small (/29) subnet of static IP's to our servers, and routes > between internal (non-public) subnets. Internet traffic is then routed via > NAT translation over the PPPoE link. We then use a proxy server to cache > most of our web traffic. Works well, and has been for several years now but, > we need to be able to deny traffic through the NAT gateway based on IP > addresses or ranges. Given the following example: > > > Internet -> DSL+Subnet -> FreeBSD router + NAT/PPPoE -> > 192.168.0.1 + 192.168.1.1 + 192.168.2.1 + 192.168.3.1 > (each of these private subnets is a physically different network, connected > via an independant ethernet interface - multiport intel 'fxp' cards) > > > Internal machines -> 192.168.0.100 - 192.168.0.200 > Select Internal machines -> 192.168.0.10 - 192.168.0.50 > > Want to allow 192.168.0.10 through 192.168.0.50 full use of the gateway > (enabling internet access via NAT), but deny machines in the 192.168.0.100 - > 192.168.0.200 range from using NAT - yet still allow them to use 'regular' > routes, (given the example below, want to allow 192.168.0.X to connect > to/from 192.168.3.X for instance). > > So the long-question shortened, is how do I deny NAT traffic for specific IP > addresses, without blocking those addresses from routing through 'normal' > routes to other subnets. Essentially, I need an IPFW rule to block traffic > from 192.168.0.X through via NAT, or don't I ? > > Any ideas/comments/suggestions greatly appreciated, (note the above is an > example, not actual addresses). > > > -- > Nathan Vidican > nathan@vidican.com > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Best Regards, Ivan Levchenko levchenko.i@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 14:59:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FEA16A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:59:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from testbed-bounces+freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@wwtld.org) Received: from kaiser.centr.org (s15114026.rootmaster.info [217.160.143.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88E143D55 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:59:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from testbed-bounces+freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@wwtld.org) Received: from s15114026.rootmaster.info (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kaiser.centr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03283FA0DE for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:59:18 +0200 (CEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: testbed-bounces@wwtld.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:59:16 +0200 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: testbed@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 X-List-Administrivia: yes Sender: testbed-bounces+freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@wwtld.org Errors-To: testbed-bounces+freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@wwtld.org Subject: Your message to testbed awaits moderator approval X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:59:22 -0000 Your mail to 'testbed' with the subject Qln Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. 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If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://www.wwtld.org/ml/confirm/testbed/217b637477336cce622bd3b80e40c874b2677dba From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 15:00:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CE916A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:00:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.net [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD14243D46 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:00:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-111-255.51-151.net24.it [151.51.255.111]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9IF71M9008254 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:07:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k9IExwtS096961; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:59:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4536416E.2000500@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:59:58 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060915) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Lord , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7.0.1.0.2.20061018082011.066e8b60@msdi.ca> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20061018082011.066e8b60@msdi.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 212.31.247.179 Cc: Subject: Re: Small Redundant web/mail setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:00:20 -0000 Ian Lord wrote: > Hi, > > I need to setup a high-availability setup for mail/web setup > ... > 1 Server holding all the websites data and mail messages. It > would serve these files via nfs to the application servers. > It would also run mysql > > A second server Also sharing it's content via nfs, replicating > it's data though rsync each ?? minutes. The mysql would run as a slave > of the primary > > Application Servers: > Both servers would be running apache, php, sendmail and posfix > and would serve content from the share nfs drive. > > 1- Is this a viable solution, I mean by that, Is it Like this big ISP > are set up ? I don't know any of the answers for sure, but I'd bet they are both 'no'. > 2- Is there a better way to replicate data than RSYNC (without going to > san of expensive hardware) ? If not, is there a hotsync feature (I mean > by that as soon as server A modify something, server B knows and > replicate)? I guess so. First of all, I don't really understand the need to have four server, unless there is some point which you didn't tell us. Apart from that, I guess it would be a lot better to try and sync at the application level. MySQL should support this and I bet you can find something alike on the IMAP side (cyrus has that support, but I don't know how stable that is). That leaves you with file system replication only for web sites, but that should be ok as long as it's mostly read-only data. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 15:11:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66AA16A40F for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=johnl=04399586ed@iecc.com) Received: from xuxa.iecc.com (xuxa.iecc.com [208.31.42.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F17F243D5A for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:11:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from prvs=johnl=04399586ed@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 1089 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2006 15:11:41 -0000 Received: from simone.iecc.com (208.31.42.47) by mail2.iecc.com with QMQP; 18 Oct 2006 15:11:41 -0000 Message-ID: <20061018151141.85327.qmail@simone.iecc.com> From: John Levine To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: 18 Oct 2006 15:10:44 GMT Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA Subject: ipfw vs. ipf on a freebsd router X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:11:44 -0000 I'm putting together a freebsd router to sit between my LAN and a T1. The current router (still running BSD/OS) uses BSDI's ipfw, but that died when BSDI did. It's about as simple a routing job as one could ask, a T1 with a static address to a LAN with a static /24. I have a whole bunch of packet filtering rules on the current router to keep out nasty stuff based partly on port numbers but also a couple of hundred IP ranges from the SBL and elsewhere. I have enough IP addresses that I do not need to NAT. What are the relative merits of freebsd's ipf and ipfw? It looks like either can do the filtering I need to do. Any reason to choose one over the other? While I'm at it, should I turn on netgraph or just use the regular network stuff? R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 15:19:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6560216A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:19:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from js.lists@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA3E43D64 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:19:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from js.lists@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so703028nfc for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:19:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=G4LJqDj6qt0TD0rZmWyXF15jsFBkK6P71dYLQ3BOHzHz6COVTxsQtx6YZH8lBQ5p3brHEWiqOqXVSwOHkNgFA+TaoVaQYNepoi0hw3qmzzbmtm3xer9rLW3a9WwFOasJYekCIgy/9yjbCLWS2VMxLx3ZdTeLFZnn1y7KospeuxY= Received: by 10.49.20.15 with SMTP id x15mr794907nfi; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.1.2.10? ( [67.180.3.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i1sm1533886nfe.2006.10.18.08.19.21; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <453645F6.7030401@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:19:18 -0700 From: Joe User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Macintosh/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Levine References: <20061018151141.85327.qmail@simone.iecc.com> In-Reply-To: <20061018151141.85327.qmail@simone.iecc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw vs. ipf on a freebsd router X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:19:27 -0000 John Levine wrote: > I'm putting together a freebsd router to sit between my LAN and a T1. > The current router (still running BSD/OS) uses BSDI's ipfw, but that > died when BSDI did. It's about as simple a routing job as one could > ask, a T1 with a static address to a LAN with a static /24. > > I have a whole bunch of packet filtering rules on the current router > to keep out nasty stuff based partly on port numbers but also a couple > of hundred IP ranges from the SBL and elsewhere. I have enough IP > addresses that I do not need to NAT. > > What are the relative merits of freebsd's ipf and ipfw? It looks like > either can do the filtering I need to do. Any reason to choose one > over the other? > Take a look at PF. It was developed by OpenBSD and ported to FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 15:20:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F22A16A416 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:20:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D790F43D66 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:20:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so685529nfc for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:20:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mxfKn1BMm9B+JZojTs0ssVX+wbawFggw/zmyAr7En4aFzaVo3YbuGJWaMfwocIBIbVFdJF2zuFQ/BlflTg0fcZ1GxVwLzfRzXgO1m0njFrNu22dz9Kdk0IsqefPksi5Tu9TQjlI4APQOF/jOoO0sM2mSRAhlpH9kLuWUhwvnTuc= Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr3984290nfi; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.63.18 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:20:31 -0700 From: "Atom Powers" To: "Erik Norgaard" In-Reply-To: <4535DDA9.503@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4535DDA9.503@locolomo.org> Cc: "Chandler, Jay" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LDAP home directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:20:45 -0000 On 10/18/06, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Chandler, Jay wrote: > > Does anyone have a way to do home directory mapping through LDAP? We've > > got user directories mounted via NFS to /usr/users and would like to be > > able to type in "cd ~ted" and go to Ted's home directory, perhaps in > > /usr/users/students/ted. > > nss_ldap allows you to map an LDAP parameter to a system parameter. > There is nss_ldap in ports, but also this summer's Summer Of Code a > project was aimed at creating a FreeBSD native nss_ldap. > > pam_ldap is needed if you want to use ldap for authentication. > Expanding on what Erik said, pam_ldap and nss_ldap will use the posixAccount schema, or the attributes your define in your ldap.conf. So if you already have a way to generate a list of user->home directory mappings you can import that into your OpenLDAP directory as, probably, the homeDirectory attribute. There are plenty of how-to docos out there, take a look. The hardest part is setting up the directory and improting your data, after that it tends to "just work". -- -- Perfection is just a word I use occasionally with mustard. --Atom Powers-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 15:20:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0D916A47B for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:20:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from js.lists@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA3A43D4C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:20:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from js.lists@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so703418nfc for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:20:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=l6y8Ce/Sr4cpkAqfyQZpPHfK1IypjAOAnG8BL70rNYiW/QeE3Prnyllt9bmWz783uTCLw5i7GIqrd8aKvkWYdwJVUcmD0vqZAFvCzca4ipcHzcr6Z8x5mJcF5CX3FIWBCwJGqgro/vAMELFn4mcWX+YcL0ICizxIZEx7jPIvRGQ= Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr3898555nfi; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.1.2.10? ( [67.180.3.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id o53sm1536689nfa.2006.10.18.08.20.37; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45364643.7010103@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:20:35 -0700 From: Joe User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Macintosh/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard References: <0J7C00A3541CUN90@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> <45363A6A.4040607@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <45363A6A.4040607@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Martin Turgeon , freebsd-pf@freebsd.org, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Routing with external interface doesn't work after a while X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:20:49 -0000 Erik Norgaard wrote: > There is some trick to handle that, IIRC something like this would do: > > ext_if=fxp0 # external interface > nat on $ext_if from to ! -> ($ext_if) > > The () means that pf will lookup the ip on that interface, and update > dynamically when the ip changes. > That is correct. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 15:25:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABBE816A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F6943D49 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:25:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9IFP7e7020539 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:25:14 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9IFPeF1024681; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:25:44 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9IFPclE024680; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:25:38 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:25:37 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: John Levine Message-ID: <20061018152537.GA23544@gothmog.pc> References: <20061018151141.85327.qmail@simone.iecc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061018151141.85327.qmail@simone.iecc.com> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.576, required 5, AWL -0.18, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw vs. ipf on a freebsd router X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:25:30 -0000 On 2006-10-18 15:10, John Levine wrote: > I'm putting together a freebsd router to sit between my LAN and a T1. > The current router (still running BSD/OS) uses BSDI's ipfw, but that > died when BSDI did. It's about as simple a routing job as one could > ask, a T1 with a static address to a LAN with a static /24. > > I have a whole bunch of packet filtering rules on the current router > to keep out nasty stuff based partly on port numbers but also a couple > of hundred IP ranges from the SBL and elsewhere. I have enough IP > addresses that I do not need to NAT. > > What are the relative merits of freebsd's ipf and ipfw? It looks like > either can do the filtering I need to do. Any reason to choose one > over the other? For what it's worth, IPFW is also available on FreeBSD. I don't know how different the BSDi version of IPFW was, but it may be easier to use FreeBSD's IPFW -- at least at first. If reducing the pain of a transition from BSD/OS to FreeBSD is a worthy goal, I would recommend IPFW :) > While I'm at it, should I turn on netgraph or just use the regular > network stuff? Not necessarily. Do you really need it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 15:31:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2188E16A403; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:31:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from turgeon.martin@gmail.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD31843D46; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:31:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from turgeon.martin@gmail.com) Received: from martinlaptop ([70.81.169.115]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0J7C00COB8BMD6L1@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca>; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:28:50 -0400 From: Martin Turgeon In-reply-to: <45363A6A.4040607@locolomo.org> To: 'Erik Norgaard' Message-id: <0J7C00COK8BPD6L1@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Thread-index: AcbyweiAX5VLAPbjR+6JB8W68i+MUgAB1i0g Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-pf@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Routing with external interface doesn't work after a while X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:31:23 -0000 The NAT rules are already written that way: nat on $wan_if tag LAN_WAN_NAT tagged LAN_WAN -> ($wan_if) nat on $wan_if tag WLS_WAN_NAT tagged WLS_WAN -> ($wan_if) nat on $wan_if tag AP_WAN_NAT tagged AP_WAN -> ($wan_if) nat on $wan_if tag VPN_WAN_NAT tagged VPN_WAN -> ($wan_if) Thanks anyway Martin -----Message d'origine----- De=A0: Erik Norgaard [mailto:norgaard@locolomo.org]=20 Envoy=E9=A0: 18 octobre 2006 10:30 =C0=A0: Martin Turgeon Cc=A0: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org; freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Objet=A0: Re: Routing with external interface doesn't work after a while Martin Turgeon wrote: > I've been reading the mailing list for a while, but it's my first = post. I'm > not sure what is causing the problem so I'm posting to multiple lists. = I'm > running FreeBSD 6.1 on a Celeron 2.8GHz with 512Mo of RAM. It looks = likes > after a while (a couple of weeks) the routing isn't working anymore, = but > only with the external interface (the one connected to my cable modem = from > Videotron in Montreal). The box is acting as the gateway of the = network with > PF, OpenVPN 2.0.5-1 and ISC-DHCPd 3.0.3-1 running. The problem also occurred > on FreeBSD 6.0 on another box. Is your external ip configured with dhcp? I would guess this is because=20 your ip on the external interface changes. Your NAT rules will still go=20 to the old ip and hence nowhere. If reloading your pf ruleset solves the = problem, then this is a strong indication. There is some trick to handle that, IIRC something like this would do: ext_if=3Dfxp0 # external interface nat on $ext_if from to ! -> ($ext_if) The () means that pf will lookup the ip on that interface, and update=20 dynamically when the ip changes. Well, that's how I remember it, I couldn't find where I've seen it, but=20 there is a trick like this. Cheers, Erik --=20 Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 15:56:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3138C16A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:56:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C41F43D6E for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:56:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 18 Oct 2006 11:55:59 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,325,1157342400"; d="scan'208"; a="325279646:sNHT83723076" Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id HIA72052; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-203-219.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.203.219]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 18 Oct 2006 11:55:48 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,325,1157342400"; d="scan'208"; a="295782473:sNHT35453976" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17718.19971.741532.501250@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:53:39 -0400 To: Jonathan Arnold In-Reply-To: References: <20061017104115.B2E4.GERARD@seibercom.net> <4534FE77.3000201@mikestammer.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090207.45364E24.0072,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.113/2006-07-26 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing and upgrading ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:56:03 -0000 Jonathan Arnold writes: > So there are three competing technologies - portupgrade, > portmaster, and portmanage. And I'm not even sure what any of > them offer over the simple 'make install clean' method. Simple make/make install will take care of upstream dependencies; portupgrade (and probably the others) will also take care of downstream ports. This is particaularly useful in cases like the recent bump of GNOME components. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 16:20:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C3716A412 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@ml.erje.net) Received: from smtpout-2.iphouse.net (smtpout-2.iphouse.net [216.250.188.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A58343D73 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:20:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@ml.erje.net) Received: from smtpout-2.iphouse.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by outbound-clamsmtpd.iphouse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09532AC6A0 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:20:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ziemel.erje.net (ismet.erje.net [213.84.32.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpout-2.iphouse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B74B2AC68C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:20:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ismet.erje.net (ismet.erje.net [IPv6:2001:888:1f33::8e45:7e]) by ziemel.erje.net (PostFix 2.3.3) with ESMTP id 7BD8C128875 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:19:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: by ismet.erje.net (PostFix 2.3.3, from userid 3003) id 3B84116C5DD; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:20:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:17:14 +0200 From: Robert Joosten To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061018161714.GB681@iphouse.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20061018082011.066e8b60@msdi.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20061018082011.066e8b60@msdi.ca> X-ICQ: 13643672 X-geek-code-v3.1: G!>CS@O dx>--@ s: a31(32) C+++ UBL++++$ P++ L-@+++$ !E W(+) N+++(*) o-- K- w- O- M- V- PS+@ PE- Y+ PGP++ t- 5- X- R* !tv b++@ DI++ D G-- e@ h*(+) r>+@ z+c X-FreeBSD: 026746 X-Mobile/GSM/cell: +3162526777 X-msn: BlixKater X-No-rights-can-be-derived: Indeed X-Face: 0[uRd; X4=_; G; $DL6Wm=\]R/TWu1f+t|,Li1Q-maBcUyCJsAw(Nmj-(aDA!Kk#hLr#njX9T@U-rQm?Z53"_]SBYab3-NCkCN/{1-#0T4U1Ry"TPY~dtpzfxs$9"BrXKPylt/#5QQb/y+|LF}; X-bored-?-crack-this: 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 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-ziemel.erje.net-MailScanner: Ok, found to be clean X-Spam-Status: No X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: Small Redundant web/mail setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:20:58 -0000 Hi, > 1- Is this a viable solution, I mean by that, Is it Like this big ISP > are set up ? Not quite likely, but it's possible ofcourse. > 2- Is there a better way to replicate data than RSYNC (without going > to san of expensive hardware) ? If not, is there a hotsync feature (I > mean by that as soon as server A modify something, server B knows and > replicate)? IMO there's no better solution than rsync, besides somewhat more hardware / not that I'm aware of no. You could also build one fileserver able to serve nfs, store mail in maildir format and put 2 boxes online running mail/http daemons. Return one server get loadbalancer instead and put that online. That would be more my idea of having high-availability. Ofcourse you could also put a layer 3 switch in front of it instead of a loadballancer. Make sure the hardware of the fileserver is at least able to do raid 1 and has a dual powersupply. That will help the keep the thing up. Hth, Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 16:22:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC1A16A417 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from giannidoe@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D3743D97 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:21:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from giannidoe@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout12/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9IGLvId025294 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.200.8] (host147-27-static.28-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it [87.28.27.147]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin02/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9IGLrqR004897 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <96125E1C-C802-436A-96E7-7BBBC0B69E25@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: giannidoe@mac.com Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:21:53 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Subject: Newbie: PCI modem grief X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:22:05 -0000 I've got 3 MultiTech PCI modems (MT5634ZPX-PCI) which are detected correctly at boot, I can issue commands and query them with minicom however any attempt at dialling results in NO DIALTONE even though the line is working. I think it's something to do with shared interrupts as if I take out 2 modems and place the remaining one in a certain PCI slot it works fine. dmesg reports similar message for each: sio0: configured irq 19 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled (full text below) I have searched around and seems that disabling PnP OS in the BIOS may help, trouble is my Dell PowerEdge 400SC has no option for turning off PnP OS. I'd really appreciate some suggestions. Thanks Gianni Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #2: Mon Oct 16 06:47:01 CEST 2006 root@apoc.proiv-solutions.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/APOC ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz (2394.02-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x4400> real memory = 133644288 (127 MB) avail memory = 121196544 (115 MB) ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 1 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xf0000000-0xf7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci0: at device 29.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 29.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 29.2 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 29.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 29.7 (no driver attached) pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 pci2: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) sio0: configured irq 22 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: port 0xd800-0xd8ff, 0xd900-0xd9ff,0xd5a8-0xd5af mem 0xfe9ded00-0xfe9dedff irq 22 at device 1.0 on pci2 sio0: moving to sio4 sio4: type 16550A sio0: configured irq 17 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled can't re-use a leaf (%desc)! can't re-use a leaf (%driver)! can't re-use a leaf (%location)! can't re-use a leaf (%pnpinfo)! can't re-use a leaf (%parent)! sio0: port 0xda00-0xdaff, 0xdc00-0xdcff,0xd5b0-0xd5b7 mem 0xfe9dee00-0xfe9deeff irq 17 at device 2.0 on pci2 sio0: moving to sio5 sio5: type 16550A sio0: configured irq 19 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled can't re-use a leaf (%desc)! can't re-use a leaf (%driver)! can't re-use a leaf (%location)! can't re-use a leaf (%pnpinfo)! can't re-use a leaf (%parent)! sio0: port 0xdd00-0xddff, 0xde00-0xdeff,0xd5b8-0xd5bf mem 0xfe9def00-0xfe9defff irq 19 at device 3.0 on pci2 sio0: moving to sio6 sio6: type 16550A em0: port 0xd5c0-0xd5ff mem 0xfe9e0000-0xfe9fffff irq 18 at device 12.0 on pci2 em0: Ethernet address: 00:0c:f1:9d:5b:fa em0: [FAST] isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf mem 0xfebffc00-0xfebfffff irq 18 at device 31.1 on p ci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 atapci1: port 0xfe00-0xfe07,0xfe10-0xfe13,0xfe20-0xfe27,0xfe30-0xfe33,0xfea0-0xfeaf irq 18 at device 31.2 on pci0 ata2: on atapci1 ata3: on atapci1 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 31.5 (no driver attached) fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 can't re-use a leaf (%desc)! can't re-use a leaf (%driver)! can't re-use a leaf (%location)! can't re-use a leaf (%pnpinfo)! can't re-use a leaf (%parent)! sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xc97ff, 0xc9800-0xd5fff,0xd6000-0xd7fff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2394015032 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 76319MB at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 ast0: TAPE at ata1-slave PIO3 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 16:31:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E3016A40F for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:31:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1977443D7C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:31:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852DD388EBC for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:31:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:28:41 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4536377D.2020909@open-networks.net> References: <4536377D.2020909@open-networks.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========B7D0B7E99F994324DA12==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: can burn cd's, can't read once burnt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:31:44 -0000 --==========B7D0B7E99F994324DA12========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On Thursday, October 19, 2006 00:17:33 +1000 Timothy Smith=20 wrote: > i have an odd issue with 6.0 that i've been trying to solve for ages and > nobody seems to know how to answer. > > 1. i can mount any cd's or dvd's THAT I DIDN'T BURN. makes no difference > what media is used. > > 2. i burn a dvd like so > > growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd0=3Dbailes.iso > Are you sure this shouldn't be growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/acd0=3Dbailes.iso ? Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========B7D0B7E99F994324DA12==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 16:37:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D591016A407; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:37:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C390343D5C; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:37:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.7.193] (68.Red-80-34-55.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.34.55.68]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237112E024; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:37:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <45365856.90508@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:37:42 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Turgeon References: <0J7C00A3541CUN90@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <0J7C00A3541CUN90@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-pf@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Routing with external interface doesn't work after a while X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:37:56 -0000 Martin Turgeon wrote: > I've been reading the mailing list for a while, but it's my first post. I'm > not sure what is causing the problem so I'm posting to multiple lists. I'm > running FreeBSD 6.1 on a Celeron 2.8GHz with 512Mo of RAM. It looks likes > after a while (a couple of weeks) the routing isn't working anymore, but > only with the external interface (the one connected to my cable modem from > Videotron in Montreal). The box is acting as the gateway of the network with > PF, OpenVPN 2.0.5-1 and ISC-DHCPd 3.0.3-1 running. The problem also occurred > on FreeBSD 6.0 on another box. OK, this can take a long time to solve if the problem reoccurs after some weeks - can you reproduce at a faster rate? > The routing table looks ok. > > The external interface is still receiving ARP requests but nothing is going > out from my internal network. OK, so your internal network can't get out. But can you get out from the gateway? I mean, try login to the gateway and ping the default gateway. Do you get replies? do you see packets going out when sniffing? > Here's what I tried with no result: > > I tried to flush the states with pfctl -Fs > I tried to reload the NAT with pfctl -N > > The solution was to renew the address of the external interface with > dhclient fxp0. > > I looked back at the routing table after the dhclient fxp0 and nothing > changed except the address of the default gateway because my IP address > changed of subnetwork. While the gateway is working take dump output of ifconfig and "route get default" into a file. When it stops working do it again. Repeat after you have restored the connection. Did any thing change from it worked till it stopped working? Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 16:41:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA2516A407; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFD743D6B; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:41:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.7.193] (68.Red-80-34-55.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.34.55.68]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DFC2E024; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:41:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <45365929.8060608@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:41:13 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Turgeon References: <0J7C00COK8BPD6L1@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <0J7C00COK8BPD6L1@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-pf@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Routing with external interface doesn't work after a while X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:41:38 -0000 Martin Turgeon wrote: > The NAT rules are already written that way: > > nat on $wan_if tag LAN_WAN_NAT tagged LAN_WAN -> ($wan_if) > nat on $wan_if tag WLS_WAN_NAT tagged WLS_WAN -> ($wan_if) > nat on $wan_if tag AP_WAN_NAT tagged AP_WAN -> ($wan_if) > nat on $wan_if tag VPN_WAN_NAT tagged VPN_WAN -> ($wan_if) How are your tags created? If somewhere in the nat/tag/filtering process you've missed the dynamic update of the external ip it may fail there... Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 16:42:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B574D16A4AB for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:42:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kyrreny@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C580A43D77 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:41:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kyrreny@broadpark.no) Received: from broadpark.no ([217.13.4.96]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J7C007BEBPOR690@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:41:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [80.202.4.61] (Forwarded-For: [80.203.212.30]) by bgo1mstore1.broadpark.no (mshttpd); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:41:48 +0200 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:41:48 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kyrre_Nyg=E5rd?= To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <7846ca476d9a.4536756c@broadpark.no> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Cc: Subject: Broken partition table X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:42:07 -0000 Hello! My partition table is messed up. I have a 150 gigabyte S-ATA hard drive, with a single NTFS partition running Windows XP. I've been running gpart /dev/ad0 for the last 14 hours now and it's not saying anything. I just want to get my data back. I don't care if I have to reinstall everything. How it all came about is a long story. I ran a second hard disk drive, with FreeBSD, and GRUB so it could do my dual booting. But I needed the space, so I formatted it to NTFS from Windows XP. That's it really, after that, it wouldn't boot. Couldn't load NTLDR. That's when I tried a lot of different things. boot0cfg, fixmbr and fixboot. I even managed changing its system ID type to FAT using fdisk -- I wasn't thinking clearly -- I was in deep shock. I have also tried gpart from Knoppix, but all its guesses came out as zero. I've also tried running gpart from Insert, another Linux distribution, but it totally freaked out about some I/O stuff. Linux uses SCSI drivers for S-ATA though. Is my only choice now to keep running gpart, even if it will run forever? All suggestions welcome, please! Best regards, Kyrre From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 15:28:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D5116A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:28:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dj@djcustom.com) Received: from mail.djcustom.com (djcustom.com [71.39.14.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61E843D49 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:28:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dj@djcustom.com) Received: from C1052266A ([192.168.101.50]) by djcnet.djcustom.com (8.13.7/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9IFU8rX074343 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:30:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dj@djcustom.com) From: "Dale Johnston" To: Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:27:27 -0700 Message-ID: <001201c6f2c9$ee63bd20$3265a8c0@C1052266A> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Thread-Index: AcbuPU9rwzi2uJkbRkGnYkl2EE2C3A== X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:50:59 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Uucp mail coming in X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:28:27 -0000 I keep getting messages from spammers adddressed to uucp@djcustom.com. Uucp has been eliminated from my /etc/mail/aliases, why are these still coming thru? I've even tried aliasing uucp to bit-bucket. they still come thru Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 15:28:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2266D16A416 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:28:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dj@djcustom.com) Received: from mail.djcustom.com (djcustom.com [71.39.14.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C3843D4C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:28:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dj@djcustom.com) Received: from C1052266A ([192.168.101.50]) by djcnet.djcustom.com (8.13.7/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9HHdqvF070238 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:39:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dj@djcustom.com) From: "Dale Johnston" To: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:37:13 -0700 Message-ID: <003001c6f212$e4bad360$3265a8c0@C1052266A> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Thread-Index: AcbuPU9rwzi2uJkbRkGnYkl2EE2C3A== X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:52:05 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Uucp mail coming in X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:28:28 -0000 Let's try this again. got the last message back after 5 days I keep getting messages from spammers adddressed to uucp@djcustom.com. Uucp has been eliminated from my /etc/mail/aliases, why are these still coming thru? I've even try aliasing uucp to bit-bucket. they still come thru Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 16:53:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B19E16A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD4D43D7B for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:53:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin05-en2 [10.13.10.150]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout15/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9IGr3nF005122; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (a17-214-13-96.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9IGqwlb027288; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:53:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4535C0EB.8000700@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <20061018000853.O49453@192.168.11.51> <4535C0EB.8000700@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:52:58 -0700 To: Matthew Seaman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Cc: Zbigniew Szalbot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd not adjusting the clock? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:53:13 -0000 On Oct 17, 2006, at 10:51 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> This misconfiguration will also cause your ntpd to generate excessive >> numbers of queries, rather than syncing up and reducing the NTP >> polling >> interval from minpoll to maxpoll. [1] >> >> Remove that line and restart ntpd. > > That means that anyone can connect to your NTP daemon and poll it > for time > service or use ntpdc to muck around with your configuration. Setting up ntp.keys would let you control config changes via encryption and pre-shared secrets, if you care, or you can use ntp- genkeys to set up PKI using symmetric crypto. Unless you publish your IP address, it is unlikely that random requests, or even random people using ntpdc to poke at your ntpd, are going to be a significant concern. (Oh, if someone deliberately wants to mess with your network, leaving NTPd's security completely unconfigured isn't a good idea, but neither is it going to be a significant problem; once NTPd has sync'ed the clocks, it will only skew the system time gradually no matter what a malicious intruder might try to change. The max skew permitted is less than one minute per day using -x or "tinker step 0".) > It's better to use at minimum: > > restrict default nopeer nomodify > restrict localhost > > (the 'restrict localhost' line actually removes all limitations on > access > from localhost. Ain't ntp.conf syntax wonderful.) > > Ideally, you'ld be able to use 'restrict default ignore' then apply > > restrict 2.pl.pool.ntp.org nopeer nomodify > server 2.pl.pool.ntp.org prefer > > for each server you configure. That works well if you specify > individual > servers by name. Unfortunately the way NTP pool mechanism works > makes that > approach unworkable. You could actually use the pool via the combination of restrict and server entries, as NTPd will try to resolve the hostname once and then apply the security restrictions specified to whatever IP comes back from the pool. However, specifying "nopeer" against all hosts, including the servers you are trying to sync against, may not be a great idea. NTPd is perfectly capable of figuring out the stratum of the timeservers as the communicate for itself, unless you fudge it or otherwise prevent it from doing so. Unless you are running a stratum-1 timeserver and know for certain that your GPS or other external timereference is more reliable than any network peer might be, using nopeer prevents NTPd from gaining a sanity check from the other timeservers it talks with... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 17:10:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC6F16A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from relay02.pair.com (relay02.pair.com [209.68.5.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB4DD43D6E for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:10:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: (qmail 58760 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2006 17:10:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 18 Oct 2006 17:10:06 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 217.196.247.135 Message-ID: <4536600A.9010602@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:10:34 +0100 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: kick off a post boot job X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:10:17 -0000 I have a number of servers which don't have console access, but I would like to have apache started automatically if the server is rebooted. However, it seems that if https is used then I need to type in a secret at boot time (on the console). Is there a way to start processes up automatically after the boot is finished? I could imagine asking another, trusted, server to supply the magic string using scp or some other secure transport and then using the decoded result to start up apache. -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 17:14:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9382F16A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pporubov@sky.ru) Received: from sun.sky.ru (sun.sky.ru [217.114.0.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4F343DFC for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:14:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pporubov@sky.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sun.sky.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C82C13CFF1 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:14:00 +0600 (YEKST) Received: from sun.sky.ru ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sun [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04518-11 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:13:59 +0600 (YEKST) Received: from 118.177-144-217.sky.ru (118.177-144-217.sky.ru [217.144.177.118]) by sun.sky.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC61413CFB3 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:13:59 +0600 (YEKST) From: Pavel Porubov To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:15:18 +0600 Message-Id: <1161191718.720.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by antivirus at . Cc: Subject: Gnome 2.16 and Xorg 7.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:14:42 -0000 Please add Gnome 2.16 and Xorg 7.x to the next FreeBSD 6.2. After about a month there will be Gnome 2.18 and you want to to add to FreeBSD 6.2 just Gnome 2.14. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 17:27:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED2B16A40F for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EBE43D6D for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:27:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GaFBo-00017R-OE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:26:48 +0200 Received: from c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.147.85.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:26:48 +0200 Received: from jdarnold by c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:26:48 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonathan Arnold Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:26:29 -0400 Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <452BF161.80608@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060804) In-Reply-To: <452BF161.80608@comcast.net> Sender: news Subject: Re: KDE Control Center X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:27:04 -0000 Rem P Roberti wrote: > When I bring up the Control Center in KDE the left column is now blank, > and I have no options for changing preferences. Anyone know what > happened there? Everything else seems to be functioning fine. Same with me, only worse - my KDE menu in general got messed up and lots of things got moved to the "Lost & Found" item! I think it had to do with a kdelib upgrade or something. But I'm still looking for a way to restore my menu and my control center. -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 17:31:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE1016A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:31:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from buhnux@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4740943D5C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:31:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from buhnux@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so83314wri for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:31:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=XdBdjWaUtiqbEhBksTLgvQsFubWw7rNLsg/P6XI3fdJJmMVTqPnKVXWok6WITRgpKrlHj8Xs1pSCDMW+k5aK2q9ihlUoMVpcLoB+VoTpi04m2XNCjG9VsEG/tNjYskLXX3EjtMs6vO9POIwmLKWIPOfsuFS6wLbH9z30bre8E5I= Received: by 10.82.129.8 with SMTP id b8mr2480235bud; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.183.17 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:31:20 -0400 From: "Michael Johnson" Sender: buhnux@gmail.com To: "Pavel Porubov" In-Reply-To: <1161191718.720.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1161191718.720.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 66bbac556f3f6448 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome 2.16 and Xorg 7.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:31:28 -0000 On 10/18/06, Pavel Porubov wrote: > Please add Gnome 2.16 and Xorg 7.x to the next FreeBSD 6.2. After about > a month there will be Gnome 2.18 and you want to to add to FreeBSD 6.2 > just Gnome 2.14. Thanks. > Well.. just because you asked so nice we will put GNOME 2.16 in FreeBSD 6.2. Michael > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 17:36:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FF816A412 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D20D43D73 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:36:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin05-en2 [10.13.10.150]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout04/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9IHa049002665; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (a17-214-13-96.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9IHZwvW014417; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:35:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4536600A.9010602@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> References: <4536600A.9010602@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <047A0126-6119-45A8-8BC5-497FC6ADF08F@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:35:57 -0700 To: Robin Becker X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kick off a post boot job X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:36:01 -0000 On Oct 18, 2006, at 10:10 AM, Robin Becker wrote: > I have a number of servers which don't have console access, but I > would like to have apache started automatically if the server is > rebooted. However, it seems that if https is used then I need to > type in a secret at boot time (on the console). > > Is there a way to start processes up automatically after the boot > is finished? Sure. Cron or at will do so, for example. But you're not going to truly resolve the actual problem of needing human input for a passphrase by having some other machine do something automatically. > I could imagine asking another, trusted, server to supply the magic > string using scp or some other secure transport and then using the > decoded result to start up apache. The "magic string" is normally called the SSH private key, ~/.ssh/ id_rsa or ~/.ssh/id_dsa. :-) I suppose you could use SSH from some remote trusted server to do an "apachectl startssl" and then feed it the passphrase, but then you've ended up putting the passphrase in cleartext on the trusted host, and you need to permit the trusted host to login to the webserver without needing human intervention via SSH keypairs, so you're just moving the problem from one place to another. If you've got 24-7 sysadmin availability, then keeping your x.509 certs passphrase-protected might well make sense-- if a machine is rebooted, a sysadmin needs to login and start apache by hand. Otherwise, most people leave the x.509 certs unsecured with a passphrase so that the webserver can be setup to start itself upon a reboot without manual intervention. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 17:42:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2204A16A415 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:42:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD51743D60 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:42:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:42:14 -0400 id 00056419.45366776.0001652B Received: from Internal Mail-Server (206.210.89.202) by mx01 (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 18 Oct 2006 13:37:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:42:13 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Robin Becker Message-Id: <20061018134213.cec3a18b.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <4536600A.9010602@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> References: <4536600A.9010602@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.9 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kick off a post boot job X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:42:18 -0000 In response to Robin Becker : > I have a number of servers which don't have console access, but I would like to > have apache started automatically if the server is rebooted. However, it seems > that if https is used then I need to type in a secret at boot time (on the console). > > Is there a way to start processes up automatically after the boot is finished? > > I could imagine asking another, trusted, server to supply the magic string using > scp or some other secure transport and then using the decoded result to start up > apache. You could just store your cert and key unencrypted. There are other ways as well. Apache supports plugins for this purpose, but that question would be better answered on one of the Apache mailing lists. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 18:01:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439B316A4B3 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:01:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nathan@envieweb.net) Received: from envieweb.net (d221-69-17.commercial.cgocable.net [216.221.69.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A233643D7C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:01:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nathan@envieweb.net) Received: from mail.envieweb.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by envieweb.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9IHxTg7001780 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:59:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nathan@envieweb.net) From: "Nathan Vidican" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:59:29 -0400 Message-Id: <20061018175632.M55921@envieweb.net> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.20ip1 20031103 X-OriginatingIP: 216.8.159.129 (ips/nvidican) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -1.36 () ALL_TRUSTED MSG NOT MARKED AS SPAM X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 216.221.69.17 Cc: Subject: ipfilter / ipnat & /usr/sbin/ppp ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:01:43 -0000 using: ppp -ddial -nat How does the "-nat" flag implement nat for PPPoE ? Using ipfw/natd, ipnat/ipfilter, and is it hard-coded or can it be optionally changed? Can I use rules created for/through ipfilter/ipnat, or should I simply disable NAT translation on the ppp interface and enable it through ipnat on it's own? -- Nathan Vidican nathan@envieweb.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 18:03:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA9A16A412 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tradigan@newrevolutions.net) Received: from newrevolutions.net (h-66-166-153-85.phlapafg.covad.net [66.166.153.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5026A43DA2 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:03:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tradigan@newrevolutions.net) Received: (qmail 77132 invoked by uid 98); 18 Oct 2006 18:04:33 -0000 Received: from 66.166.153.82 by ns1.newrevolutions.net (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/1946. spamassassin: 3.1.5. 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Processed in 11.851963 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO l03ptradigan) (tradigan@newrevolutions.net@66.166.153.82) by newrevolutions.net with SMTP; 18 Oct 2006 18:04:22 -0000 From: "Timothy Radigan" To: Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:03:07 -0400 Organization: New Revolutions Message-ID: <005b01c6f2df$aa5761c0$c30aa8c0@pmc.dhs.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Thread-Index: Acby36nGsO9zaDeJTOSxKNwLAjR9CQ== Subject: Samba 3.0.23c X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:03:44 -0000 I've been fighting with recompiling Samba 3 for some time now. I keep getting undefined references to Kerberos libraries during build. I am trying to build it with ADS support and I have tried it with the base version of Kerberos that comes with FreeBSD, as well as with the security/krb5 port and I am unable to get it to compile. Anyone have any ideas? Here is the output from the build: <------------- Start of Output -------------> [root@s03p-fbsd01]# make ===> Building for samba-3.0.23c_2,1 Using FLAGS = -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -D_SAMBA_BUILD_ -I/usr/ports/net/samba3/work/samba-3.0.23c/source/iniparser/src -Iinclude -I/usr/ports/net/samba3/work/samba-3.0.23c/source/include -I/usr/ports/net/samba3/work/samba-3.0.23c/source/tdb -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/local/include -DLDAP_DEPRECATED -I/usr/ports/net/samba3/work/samba-3.0.23c/source -D_SAMBA_BUILD_ LIBS = -lcrypt -liconv LDSHFLAGS = -shared -L/usr/local/lib LDFLAGS = -L/usr/local/lib PIE_CFLAGS = -fPIE PIE_LDFLAGS = -pie Linking bin/smbd libsmb/clikrb5.o(.text+0x1060): In function `smb_krb5_get_keyinfo_from_ap_req': : undefined reference to `krb5_decode_ap_req' libsmb/clikrb5.o(.text+0x13d1): In function `smb_krb5_principal_compare_any_realm': : undefined reference to `krb5_principal_compare_any_realm' libsmb/clikrb5.o(.text+0x179a): In function `smb_krb5_free_error': : undefined reference to `krb5_free_error_contents' libads/kerberos_keytab.o(.text+0x1cc): In function `smb_krb5_kt_add_entry': : undefined reference to `krb5_kt_compare' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_rd_cred2' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_crypto_destroy' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_ret_address' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_ret_data' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_ret_keyblock' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_auth_con_setremotesubkey' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_data_free' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_config_get_strings' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_auth_con_setlocalsubkey' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_auth_con_generatelocalsubkey' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_sockaddr2address' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_cc_get_ops' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_get_default_principal' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_cc_copy_cache' /usr/lib/libasn1.so: undefined reference to `init_error_table' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_auth_con_setkey' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_get_forwarded_creds' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_get_err_text' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_ret_int32' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_h_addr2sockaddr' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_build_authenticator' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_build_ap_req' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_auth_getremoteseqnumber' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_data_zero' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_storage_free' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_config_free_strings' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_create_checksum' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_generate_random_block' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_crypto_init' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_enctype_to_keytype' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_free_creds_contents' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_storage_from_mem' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_store_address' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_decrypt_ivec' /usr/lib/libasn1.so: undefined reference to `initialize_error_table_r' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_store_int16' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_ret_int16' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_get_error_string' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_principal_match' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_auth_con_setlocalseqnumber' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_storage_to_data' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_store_int32' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_encrypt_ivec' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_storage_emem' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_store_data' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_auth_con_setremoteseqnumber' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_principal_get_realm' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_set_error_string' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_make_principal' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_store_keyblock' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba3/work/samba-3.0.23c/source. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba3. [root@s03p-fbsd01]# <------------- End of Output -------------> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 18:08:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2C316A4A0 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [202.89.146.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1355643D9B for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:08:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EC9B75642A; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:08:27 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:08:27 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Jonathan Arnold Message-ID: <20061018180827.GA4543@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <452BF161.80608@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE Control Center X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:08:35 -0000 On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 01:26:29PM -0400, Jonathan Arnold wrote: > Rem P Roberti wrote: > >When I bring up the Control Center in KDE the left column is now blank, > >and I have no options for changing preferences. Anyone know what > >happened there? Everything else seems to be functioning fine. > > Same with me, only worse - my KDE menu in general got messed up and lots > of things got moved to the "Lost & Found" item! I think it had to do with > a kdelib upgrade or something. > > But I'm still looking for a way to restore my menu and my control center. If I recall correctly, it's to do with one of the files in /usr/local/share/desktop-directories. Make sure they all start with "kde-", or possibly copy the entries from a working system. Hope this helps. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "If you wish your merit to be known, acknowledge that of other people" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 18:11:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A803516A4E0 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D29443D98 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:10:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so88502wri for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:10:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=c/3VLerlOJZX68CXPhrRzVi+mjGxvfO/IxQsjKw7dAgw3F9fQOqYbpFFgY/jPRYy38LMXJey6y9cwkWJrkcE6PjNvgWQwkpAP7xVvU/hOtxg9x67WIx+63npD6HKZqK5sGhbEFL0jJPsBV5FlkZni1Y0bbbUEagaFaI/zTq47C4= Received: by 10.78.170.17 with SMTP id s17mr10438305hue; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.142.19 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <72cf361e0610181110j40655e6cge4722eee8f86fd1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:10:34 +0100 From: "Martin Hepworth" To: "Ian Lord" In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20061018082011.066e8b60@msdi.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7.0.1.0.2.20061018082011.066e8b60@msdi.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small Redundant web/mail setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:11:00 -0000 Have a look at how Cambridge University (UK) have setup their email. Does alot of this sort of stuff and they've got lots of docs online as to how they did it.. -- Martin On 10/18/06, Ian Lord wrote: > > Hi, > > I need to setup a high-availability setup for mail/web setup > > I was thinking about the following setup: > > 4 servers total: > > Data Servers: > 1 Server holding all the websites data and mail messages. It > would serve these files via nfs to the application servers. > It would also run mysql > > A second server Also sharing it's content via nfs, > replicating it's data though rsync each ?? minutes. The mysql would > run as a slave of the primary > > Application Servers: > Both servers would be running apache, php, sendmail and > posfix and would serve content from the share nfs drive. > > 1- Is this a viable solution, I mean by that, Is it Like this big ISP > are set up ? > > 2- Is there a better way to replicate data than RSYNC (without going > to san of expensive hardware) ? If not, is there a hotsync feature (I > mean by that as soon as server A modify something, server B knows and > replicate)? > > I would appreciate if you could give me feedbacks, suggestions, or if > you see any problem that might happen with this kind of setup. > > Thanks a lot > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 18:23:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9237D16A4B3 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:23:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nianbig@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B983F43E1D for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:21:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nianbig@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so218338uge for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:21:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=DAkBRhoIaNGzlO/c7VoDJsQUxaVB3mOX2QLS8zBdpgYpmYWYI21sBpZB9B7eWru/NbfVYqQrMWKGXFBH0wV7YDALK4kuDSQUp+9MYblxH1e4cixJBp+pz0WPe6eu7uWVxNA86zdu6qgqWc5KUdruOrkl7wTUMf+q7+XUPfN3T0c= Received: by 10.78.204.20 with SMTP id b20mr10443157hug; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.136.14 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5e8134c90610181121w469dade5s3d6d3a747302069a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:21:29 +0200 From: Nian To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: php5 port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:23:00 -0000 Hello I tryed to install your php5-5.1.6_2 recently. It works fine but when I run php --version the version is 5.1.2? matilda# php --version PHP 5.1.2 (cli) (built: Mar 16 2006 03:15:52) Copyright (c) 1997-2006 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.1.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2006 Zend Technologies Thanks in advance! /Nian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 18:30:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCA616A40F for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dprobd02.vailsys.com (dprobd02.vailsys.com [63.149.73.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47D343D45 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:30:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dfsfbd06.vail (dfsfbd06.vail [192.168.129.190]) by dprobd02.vailsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079BC8A5C82 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:30:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dfwdamian.vail [192.168.129.233]) by dfsfbd06.vail (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECB0323E8D for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:30:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (smmsp@localhost.vail [127.0.0.1]) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9IIU1Nw008300 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:30:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dwiest@localhost) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9HMWKSb006236 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:32:20 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dfwdamian.vail: dwiest set sender to dwiest@vailsys.com using -f Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:32:20 -0500 From: Damian Wiest Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061017223220.GB4445@dfwdamian.vail> References: <20061017210740.GB9251@dfwdamian.vail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: Re: Problems with USB Palm sync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:30:11 -0000 On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 06:03:07PM -0400, Jonathan Arnold wrote: > (hope this isn't a double post:-( > > Damian Wiest wrote: > >On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 04:29:49PM -0400, Jonathan Arnold wrote: > >>Has anyone had any luck using pilot-link to sync JPilot to a Palm > >>device via the USB? I'm trying to sync my Handspring Visor and it just > >>doesn't seem to be noticing it. I have the following in my > >>/dev/usbd.conf file: > >> > >>device "Handspring Visor" > >> devname "ugen[0-9]+" > >> vendor 0x082d > >> product 0x0100 > >> release 0x0100 > >> attach "chmod 0666 /dev/ugen*" > >> > >>as per the code that was in there for the coldsync. When I press the > >>sync button on the cradle, these devices show up: > >> > >>crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 181 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0 > >>crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 182 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0.1 > >>crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 183 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0.2 > >> > >>And the following shows up in my dmesg: > >> > >>ugen0: Handspring Inc Handspring Visor, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 5 > >>ugen0: at uhub6 port 4 (addr 5) disconnected > >>All threads purged from ugen0.2 > >>All threads purged from ugen0.1 > >>All threads purged from ugen0 > >>ugen0: detached > >> > >>But the pilot-link command fails immediately: > >> > >>$ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ugen0 -l > >> Unable to bind to port: /dev/ugen0 > >> Please use --help for more information > >> > >>Any ideas? I've googled all over the place, but I only see similiar > >>questions. And the FreeBSD.README on the pilot-link web site seems to > >>be misleading at best. > > [snip] > >I've had success syncing my Palm OS based phone (SPH-i500 FWIW) to my > >laptop using jpilot with a USB connection. > > Glad to hear someone has had success. What FreeBSD are you using? I'm > using 6.1 (via PC-BSD 1.2). 6.0 for i386 IIRC. [snip] > -- > Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) > Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: > http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ > > UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. I was actually hunting for my cradle just last night to resync my phone. If I can find it tonight, I'll post my procedure. -Damian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 18:33:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA03716A412 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:33:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from ketralnis.com (melchoir.ketralnis.com [68.183.67.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39ABC43D58 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:33:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from [192.168.1.40] (pix.xythos.com [64.154.218.194]) (authenticated bits=0) by ketralnis.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9IIX574096550 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:33:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <5C0D864F-AD38-42A6-9773-38748DA6A605@ketralnis.com> References: <5C0D864F-AD38-42A6-9773-38748DA6A605@ketralnis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David King Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:32:48 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: Re: Segfaulting perl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:33:22 -0000 For the archives: I eventually found and . It looks like a bug in p5-Crypt-SSLeay, and it not properly calling some OpenSSL routines, which causes perl to segfault. In fetchyahoo 2.10.6, it is on line 1435 of 2117, which reads: $main_page = $ua->request($request); $ua is a LWP::UserAgent object, and what's happening is that the request is redirecting to an SSL page, so even if you have SSL turned off it will end up making an SSL request. I fixed it (very temporarily) by removing p5-Crypt-SSLeay (pkg_delete -f p5-Crypt-SSLeay). The UserAgent object sees that it can't do SSL without that package and follows the redirects but without SSL. So obviously there is the drawback that SSL won't work, and also I have other packages that rely on that perl module (notably gnucash) that won't work with it not installed. That bug was filed with Debian a year ago (Bug#334938, Oct 20, 2005 ). On 15 Oct 2006, at 13:10, David King wrote: > Just to make sure that no bad library dependancies were at work, I > did a 'make buildworld installworld', and a 'portupgrade -frR > fetchyahoo perl openssl', to no avail (and with the same backtrace > generated by gdb as below). > > Any ideas? > > On 10 Oct 2006, at 11:05, David King wrote: > >> When trying to run fetchyahoo (from ports), perl dumps core. It >> appears to be dumping core in OpenSSL. I've tried recompiling/ >> reinstalling all ports related to fetchyahoo, perl, and openssl. >> This happens whether or not I enable SSL in fetchyahoo's >> configuration. >> >> It gets as far as: >> >> ~% fetchyahoo >> Logging in insecurely via plaintext as username on Tue Oct 10 >> 09:49:20 2006 >> zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) fetchyahoo >> >> Perl and OpenSSL have been compiled with: >> >> ~% egrep -i '^(COPT|CFLAG)' /etc/make.conf >> CFLAGS+=-O -pipe -mtune=i686 -g >> COPTFLAGS=-O -pipe -mtune=i686 -g >> >> Here's the output of GDB and a backtrace >> >> Core was generated by `perl5.8.8'. >> Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. >> Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/CORE/ >> libperl.so...done. >> Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/CORE/libperl.so >> Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.4...done. >> Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.4 >> Reading symbols from /lib/libcrypt.so.3...done. >> Loaded symbols for /lib/libcrypt.so.3 >> Reading symbols from /lib/libutil.so.5...done. >> Loaded symbols for /lib/libutil.so.5 >> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpthread.so.2...done. >> Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpthread.so.2 >> Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...done. >> Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.6 >> Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/IO/ >> IO.so...done. >> Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/IO/IO.so >> Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Fcntl/ >> Fcntl.so...done. >> Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Fcntl/ >> Fcntl.so >> Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/ >> auto/MIME/Base64/Base64.so...done. >> Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ >> MIME/Base64/Base64.so >> Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Time/ >> HiRes/HiRes.so...done. >> Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Time/HiRes/ >> HiRes.so >> Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Socket/ >> Socket.so...done. >> Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Socket/ >> Socket.so >> Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Sys/ >> Hostname/Hostname.so...done. >> Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Sys/ >> Hostname/Hostname.so >> Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/ >> auto/Compress/Zlib/Zlib.so...done. >> Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ >> Compress/Zlib/Zlib.so >> Reading symbols from /lib/libz.so.3...done. >> Loaded symbols for /lib/libz.so.3 >> Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/ >> auto/HTML/Parser/Parser.so...done. >> Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ >> HTML/Parser/Parser.so >> Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/ >> auto/Crypt/SSLeay/SSLeay.so...done. >> Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ >> Crypt/SSLeay/SSLeay.so >> Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.5...done. >> Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.5 >> Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.5...done. >> Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.5 >> Reading symbols from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done. >> Loaded symbols for /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 >> #0 0x2839d420 in SSL_CTX_ctrl () from /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.5 >> [New LWP 100179] >> (gdb) bt >> #0 0x2839d420 in SSL_CTX_ctrl () from /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.5 >> #1 0x000001c0 in ?? () >> #2 0x0000000d in ?? () >> #3 0x28325000 in ?? () >> #4 0x00000000 in ?? () >> #5 0x283683b4 in __JCR_LIST__ () from /usr/local/lib/perl5/ >> site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/Crypt/SSLeay/SSLeay.so >> #6 0x00000017 in ?? () >> #7 0x00000000 in ?? () >> #8 0x283608af in XS_Crypt__SSLeay__CTX_new (my_perl=0x8058000, >> cv=0x86b47b0) at SSLeay.xs:133 >> #9 0x2810fd9f in Perl_pp_entersub (my_perl=0x8058000) at pp_hot.c: >> 2913 >> #10 0x280f22d9 in Perl_runops_debug (my_perl=0x8058000) at dump.c: >> 1459 >> #11 0x2809e6b1 in S_run_body (my_perl=0x8058000, oldscope=4095) at >> perl.c:2366 >> #12 0x2809e222 in perl_run (my_perl=0x8058000) at perl.c:2283 >> #13 0x080492bc in main () >> >> Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 8 subversion 8) >> configuration: >> Platform: >> osname=freebsd, osvers=6.1-release-p10, archname=i386-freebsd- >> thread-multi-64int >> uname='freebsd melchoir.ketralnis.com 6.1-release-p10 freebsd >> 6.1-release-p10 #5: mon oct 9 09:44:49 pdt 2006 >> root@melchoir.ketralnis.com:usrobjusrsrcsysmelchoir i386 ' >> config_args='-sde -Dprefix=/usr/local -Darchlib=/usr/local/lib/ >> perl5/5.8.8/mach -Dprivlib=/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 -Dman3dir=/ >> usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/perl/man/man3 -Dman1dir=/usr/local/man/ >> man1 -Dsitearch=/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach - >> Dsitelib=/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 -Dscriptdir=/usr/ >> local/bin -Dsiteman3dir=/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/man/man3 - >> Dsiteman1dir=/usr/local/man/man1 -Ui_malloc -Ui_iconv - >> Uinstallusrbinperl -Dcc=cc -Duseshrplib -Dccflags=-DAPPLLIB_EXP="/ >> usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN" -Doptimize=-O2 -fno-strict- >> aliasing -pipe -O -pipe -mtune=i686 -g -march=pentiumpro - >> Ud_dosuid -Ui_gdbm -Dusethreads=y -Dusemymalloc=n -Duse64bitint' >> hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define >> usethreads=define use5005threads=undef useithreads=define >> usemultiplicity=define >> useperlio=define d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef >> use64bitint=define use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef >> usemymalloc=n, bincompat5005=undef >> Compiler: >> cc='cc', ccflags ='-DAPPLLIB_EXP="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/ >> BSDPAN" -DHAS_FPSETMASK -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -DDEBUGGING -fno- >> strict-aliasing -pipe -Wdeclaration-after-statement -I/usr/local/ >> include', >> optimize='-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -O -pipe -mtune=i686 - >> g -march=pentiumpro', >> cppflags='-DAPPLLIB_EXP="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN" - >> DHAS_FPSETMASK -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -DDEBUGGING -fno-strict- >> aliasing -pipe -Wdeclaration-after-statement -I/usr/local/include' >> ccversion='', gccversion='3.4.4 [FreeBSD] 20050518', >> gccosandvers='' >> intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, >> byteorder=12345678 >> d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, >> longdblsize=12 >> ivtype='long long', ivsize=8, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, >> Off_t='off_t', lseeksize=8 >> alignbytes=4, prototype=define >> Linker and Libraries: >> ld='cc', ldflags ='-pthread -Wl,-E -L/usr/local/lib' >> libpth=/usr/lib /usr/local/lib >> libs=-lgdbm -lm -lcrypt -lutil >> perllibs=-lm -lcrypt -lutil >> libc=, so=so, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.so >> gnulibc_version='' >> Dynamic Linking: >> dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' - >> Wl,-R/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/CORE' >> cccdlflags='-DPIC -fPIC', lddlflags='-shared -L/usr/local/lib' >> >> >> Characteristics of this binary (from libperl): >> Compile-time options: DEBUGGING MULTIPLICITY PERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT >> PERL_MALLOC_WRAP USE_64_BIT_INT USE_ITHREADS >> USE_LARGE_FILES USE_PERLIO USE_REENTRANT_API >> Locally applied patches: >> defined-or >> Built under freebsd >> Compiled at Oct 10 2006 08:02:48 >> @INC: >> /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN >> /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach >> /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 >> /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7 >> /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6 >> /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 >> /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 >> /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl >> /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach >> /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 >> . >> >> >> Any ideas? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > David King > Computer Programmer > Ketralnis Systems > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- David King Computer Programmer Ketralnis Systems From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 18:35:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC78116A40F for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:35:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vahan@arminco.com) Received: from styx.aic.net (styx.aic.net [195.250.64.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F8243D88 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:35:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vahan@arminco.com) Received: from phoenix.arminco.com ([195.250.90.227] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by styx.aic.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GaGGL-0007zf-IH for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:35:33 +0500 Message-ID: <453673EA.5090900@arminco.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:35:22 +0500 From: Vahan Yerkanian Organization: ARMINCO Global Telecommunications User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AIC-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-AIC-Scan-Signature: 6394ce183ca79901fbab587b4492fa51 X-AIC-Scan-Server: styx.aic.net Cc: Subject: smbfs & rsync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:35:54 -0000 Greetings, On one of my machines running 6.1-RELEASE rsync over a smbfs share is failing with the following error: building file list ... rsync: readdir("/ipa1/tmimage/2001"): Bad file descriptor (9) done IO error encountered -- skipping file deletion sent 246047 bytes received 20 bytes 492134.00 bytes/sec total size is 3876995600 speedup is 15755.85 rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(892) [sender=2.6.8] where /ipa1 is a smbfs share. I've googled and found this [1] particular article that pinpoints a simple coding mistake, anyone knows if this is going to be fixed in 6.2-RELEASE? /usr/sbin/mount_smbfs is the binary affected, [1] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/78953 Anyone? Best regards, Vahan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 18:43:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957A616A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FF943D49 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:43:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id a10so700908qbd for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.29.7 with SMTP id c7mr16596567wxc; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h13sm969127wxd.2006.10.18.11.43.25; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26661B907; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:43:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss.seibercom.net [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A93B826; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:43:25 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom.NET In-Reply-To: <001201c6f2c9$ee63bd20$3265a8c0@C1052266A> References: <001201c6f2c9$ee63bd20$3265a8c0@C1052266A> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20061018144101.639A.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.27 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: Uucp mail coming in X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:43:45 -0000 On Wednesday October 18, 2006 at 11:27:27 (AM) Dale Johnston wrote: > I keep getting messages from spammers adddressed to uucp@djcustom.com. Uucp > has been eliminated from my /etc/mail/aliases, why are these still coming > thru? I've even tried aliasing uucp to bit-bucket. they still come thru Did you run 'newaliases' after making the change? -- Gerard "It is not the OS's job to stop you from shooting your foot. If you so choose to do so, then it is OS's job to deliver Mr. Bullet to Mr Foot in the most efficient way it knows." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 18:45:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9FF16A412 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:45:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from cprobd02.vailsys.com (cprobd02.vailsys.com [63.210.102.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48AC543D4C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:44:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dfsfbd06.vail (dfsfbd06.vail [192.168.129.190]) by cprobd02.vailsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C80CE4E9 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:44:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dfwdamian.vail [192.168.129.233]) by dfsfbd06.vail (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5FA323E8A for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:44:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dwiest@localhost.vail [127.0.0.1]) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9IIiVFk009459 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:44:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dwiest@localhost) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9IIiVcr015420 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:44:31 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dfwdamian.vail: dwiest set sender to dwiest@vailsys.com using -f Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:44:31 -0500 From: Damian Wiest Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061018184431.GA23349@dfwdamian.vail> References: <200610171801.44321.amistry@am-productions.biz> <200610180209.00047.amistry@am-productions.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: Re: Problems with USB Palm sync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:45:25 -0000 On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:53:18AM -0400, Jonathan Arnold wrote: > Anish Mistry wrote: > >On Tuesday 17 October 2006 23:22, Jonathan Arnold wrote: > >>Anish Mistry wrote: > >>>On Tuesday 17 October 2006 16:29, Jonathan Arnold wrote: > >>>>Has anyone had any luck using pilot-link to sync JPilot to a > >>>>Palm device via the USB? I'm trying to sync my Handspring Visor > >>>>and it just doesn't seem to be noticing it. I have the following > >>>>in my /dev/usbd.conf file: > >>>First you shouldn't be using usbd.conf. You should be using > >>>devd.conf and devfs.rules. > >>> > >>>Disable usbd. > >>> > >>>Add to devd.conf: > >>>attach 0 { > >>> device-name "ugen[0-9]+"; > >>> match "vendor" "0x082d"; > >>> match "product" "0x0100"; > >>> match "release" "0x0100"; > >>> action "/usr/local/sbin/pilot-sync-ugen.sh $device-name"; > >>>}; > >>> > >>>Setup devfs.rules if you have yet to do it: > >>>http://am-productions.biz/docs/devfs.rules.php > >>> > >>>Add your user to the operator group or change the mode to 0666 > >>>below. Add to devfs.rules: > >>>add path 'ugen*' group operator > >>>add path 'ugen*' mode 0660 > >>> > >>>In /usr/local/sbin/pilot-sync-ugen.sh: > >>>#!/bin/sh > >>># > >>>JPILOT=/usr/X11R6/bin/jpilot-sync > >>>JPILOT_USER=your_username_here > >>>export JPILOT_HOME=/home/$JPILOT_USER > >>>PILOTPORT=usb:/dev/$1 > >>>COMMAND=`echo $JPILOT -p $PILOTPORT -b` > >>># run command ie. (sync) > >>>/usr/bin/su $JPILOT_USER -c "$COMMAND" > >>Thanks, this seems to work a little better. Now, when I hit the > >>Hot Sync button on the cradle, I get the feedback that there's a > >>connection and it says "Identifying user" on the Visor, but it just > >>hangs there and eventually gives up. If I comment out the action > >>and try it from the commandline, pilot-xfer says " Listening for > >>incoming connection on usb:/dev/ugen0... ". It seems to me that > >>both are waiting for the other to initiate something. ugen0 doesn't > >>get created until I hit the HotSync button, but the pilot-link > >>stuff seems to be waiting for that to happen again? > >You'll need to install the user: > ># install pilot-link username > >COMMAND=`echo /usr/local/bin/install-user -p $PILOTPORT -u > >$JPILOT_USER -i 1001` > > I thought it might be something like this, so I played quite a bit last > night trying to get this command to work, but still no joy in mudville. > I replaced the jpilot-sync COMMAND line with the install-user one, but it > still does the same thing. I press the hot sync button, I get the > confirmation > that a connection was made from the Visor, but both ends just sit there at > that point. > > I feel like I'm ever so close and am just missing one tweak to push it > over into usability. > > BTW, what is the 'uvisor' driver for? Should I be trying to use this one > instead of the 'ugen', which is the generic interface? > > -- > Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) > Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: > http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ > > UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. Here's what works for me on my FreeBSD 6.1 (x86) laptop and OpenBSD 3.9 (x86) workstation: To use pilot-xfer to sync your Palm device 1. Connect cradle to system via USB port 2. Press the sync button 3. Execute "sudo pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyU0 -s " where PalmDir is the location of your Palm data. 4. Files are transferred from the Palm device To use jpilot to sync your Palm device: 1. Execute "sudo jpilot" 2. Select the File->Preferences menu 3. Select the Settings tab 4. Change the serial port setting to /dev/ttyU0 5. Press the hotsync button on your cradle (or use the HotSync app.) 6. Press the sync button in J-Pilot 7. Palm device is synced I find that I have better luck pressing sync on my device before running pilot-xfer or using J-Pilot's sync feature. If you do it the other way around and aren't quick enough, the /dev/ttyU0 device won't be available and the application won't retry opening it. I know I shouldn't be running the apps as root, but I haven't bothered to configure /etc/devd.conf and /etc/devfs.rules on my laptop. -Damian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 18:48:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A559C16A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from smtp106.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp106.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F53C43D7E for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:48:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: (qmail 29533 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2006 18:48:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.mikestammer.com) (mikestammer@sbcglobal.net@70.131.99.12 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2006 18:48:24 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD877B for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:48:23 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from mail.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fGO1pr5++Vmf for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:48:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42E375 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:48:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <453676F0.5070107@mikestammer.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:48:16 -0500 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <5e8134c90610181121w469dade5s3d6d3a747302069a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5e8134c90610181121w469dade5s3d6d3a747302069a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: php5 port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:48:40 -0000 Nian wrote: > Hello > > I tryed to install your php5-5.1.6_2 recently. It works fine but when > I run php --version the version is 5.1.2? > > matilda# php --version > PHP 5.1.2 (cli) (built: Mar 16 2006 03:15:52) > Copyright (c) 1997-2006 The PHP Group > Zend Engine v2.1.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2006 Zend Technologies > thats odd, mine looks like this: PHP 5.1.6 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.5 (cli) (built: Oct 16 2006 16:00:28) Copyright (c) 1997-2006 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.1.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2006 Zend Technologies with eAccelerator v0.9.5-rc1, Copyright (c) 2004-2006 eAccelerator, by eAccelerator be sure to update your ports tree and try a reinstall. I have never had that happen to be before. The date on your php executable is old as well. are you sure it: a) compiled clean and b) was installed? Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 18:51:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA8E16A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DD643D86 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:51:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:51:41 -0400 id 00056403.453677BD.00016BB9 Received: from Internal Mail-Server (206.210.89.202) by mx01 (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 18 Oct 2006 14:46:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:51:40 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Eric Message-Id: <20061018145140.b466edaf.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <453676F0.5070107@mikestammer.com> References: <5e8134c90610181121w469dade5s3d6d3a747302069a@mail.gmail.com> <453676F0.5070107@mikestammer.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.9 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: php5 port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:51:55 -0000 In response to Eric : > Nian wrote: > > Hello > > > > I tryed to install your php5-5.1.6_2 recently. It works fine but when > > I run php --version the version is 5.1.2? > > > > matilda# php --version > > PHP 5.1.2 (cli) (built: Mar 16 2006 03:15:52) March 16th isn't very recently. Looks like on March 16th, someone installed PHP in a non-standard way and it's picking up the wrong one. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. **************************************************************** IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to an intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. 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The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. **************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 19:09:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF9A16A415 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:09:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.net [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B48F43D55 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:09:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-111-255.51-151.net24.it [151.51.255.111]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9IJFp1Y012247 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:15:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k9IJ8oWL043740 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:08:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Message-ID: <45367BC2.1050907@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:08:50 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060915) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 212.31.247.179 Subject: Mandriva Pulse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:09:05 -0000 Hello. Has anyone had the chance to peek at the above software? Does it live up to its promises? I can't seem to find any real life info on it, only the producer's brochures, which don't make it so clear what it can and can't do? Do you know of any place where it's downloadable (without installing a whole linux distro)? It looks like it can't be downloaded, although it's GPLed... Would it work on FreeBSD? Is someone already doing this? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 19:12:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7A716A47C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nathan@envieweb.net) Received: from envieweb.net (d221-69-17.commercial.cgocable.net [216.221.69.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5C043D81 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:12:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nathan@envieweb.net) Received: from mail.envieweb.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by envieweb.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9IJAC42001313 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:10:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nathan@envieweb.net) From: "Nathan Vidican" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:10:12 -0400 Message-Id: <20061018190858.M40495@envieweb.net> In-Reply-To: <20061018175632.M55921@envieweb.net> References: <20061018175632.M55921@envieweb.net> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.20ip1 20031103 X-OriginatingIP: 216.8.159.129 (ips/nvidican) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -1.36 () ALL_TRUSTED MSG NOT MARKED AS SPAM X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 216.221.69.17 Cc: Subject: Re: ipfilter / ipnat & /usr/sbin/ppp ? (answered) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:12:20 -0000 Answer found, NAT implemented using libalias library: man 3 libalias -- Nathan Vidican nathan@envieweb.net On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:59:29 -0400, Nathan Vidican wrote > using: > > ppp -ddial -nat > > How does the "-nat" flag implement nat for PPPoE ? Using ipfw/natd, > ipnat/ipfilter, and is it hard-coded or can it be optionally changed? > > Can I use rules created for/through ipfilter/ipnat, or should I > simply disable NAT translation on the ppp interface and enable it > through ipnat on it's own? > > -- > Nathan Vidican > nathan@envieweb.net > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 19:12:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC8716A403; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:12:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from turgeon.martin@gmail.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB60343D68; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:12:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from turgeon.martin@gmail.com) Received: from martinlaptop ([70.81.169.115]) by VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0J7C00MEKIPJGZE0@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca>; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:13:11 -0400 From: Martin Turgeon In-reply-to: <45365929.8060608@locolomo.org> To: 'Erik Norgaard' Message-id: <0J7C00MEQIPLGZE0@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Thread-index: Acby1D0tVD9LpsITQNG7WmP9k/pz/wAFO2WA Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-pf@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Routing with external interface doesn't work after a while X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:12:59 -0000 You're right on this, the filtering rules aren't written with the = brackets. But isn't pf routing the packets to an interface instead of an IP = address. Thanks a lot Martin -----Message d'origine----- De=A0: Erik Norgaard [mailto:norgaard@locolomo.org]=20 Envoy=E9=A0: 18 octobre 2006 12:41 =C0=A0: Martin Turgeon Cc=A0: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org; freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Objet=A0: Re: Routing with external interface doesn't work after a while Martin Turgeon wrote: > The NAT rules are already written that way: >=20 > nat on $wan_if tag LAN_WAN_NAT tagged LAN_WAN -> ($wan_if) > nat on $wan_if tag WLS_WAN_NAT tagged WLS_WAN -> ($wan_if) > nat on $wan_if tag AP_WAN_NAT tagged AP_WAN -> ($wan_if) > nat on $wan_if tag VPN_WAN_NAT tagged VPN_WAN -> ($wan_if) How are your tags created? If somewhere in the nat/tag/filtering process = you've missed the dynamic update of the external ip it may fail = there... Cheers, Erik --=20 Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 19:24:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0320A16A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:24:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536AF43D78 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:24:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [10.35.4.65] (65.4-35-10-static.chueca.wifi [10.35.4.65]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5102E024; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:24:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <45367EFA.5060909@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:22:34 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Turgeon References: <0J7C00MEQIPLGZE0@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <0J7C00MEQIPLGZE0@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Routing with external interface doesn't work after a while X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:24:06 -0000 Martin Turgeon wrote: > You're right on this, the filtering rules aren't written with the brackets. > But isn't pf routing the packets to an interface instead of an IP address. I can't tell you if this affects your setup since I have't seen the ruleset. You're going to tag then nat and then filter the packets. If any of these steps you apply non-dynamic rules, that is you use $ext_if instead of ($ext_if) for the ip address on the external interface, then you're likely to have things behave unexpectedly. Things suddenly stop working after weeks without problems, just sounds very much like your firewall setup doesn't follow changes of the interface configuration. Without knowing the details of your setup, I can't tell you much more. What also confuses me is that you have tags in your nat rules - you might add a tag for later use in filtering, but you also check if a tag exist, and I don't know how or where this is set. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 19:27:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FB116A49E; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D90343D69; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:27:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8144B1A3C19; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0DB7A51569; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:27:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:27:40 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Michael Johnson Message-ID: <20061018192740.GA98393@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1161191718.720.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wac7ysb48OaltWcw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Pavel Porubov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome 2.16 and Xorg 7.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:27:42 -0000 --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 01:31:20PM -0400, Michael Johnson wrote: > On 10/18/06, Pavel Porubov wrote: > >Please add Gnome 2.16 and Xorg 7.x to the next FreeBSD 6.2. After about > >a month there will be Gnome 2.18 and you want to to add to FreeBSD 6.2 > >just Gnome 2.14. Thanks. > > >=20 > Well.. just because you asked so nice we will put GNOME 2.16 in > FreeBSD 6.2. You travelled back in time a few months to start work on it, too - now THAT's service! Kris --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFNoAsWry0BWjoQKURAqokAKDQFqogV3qF3YDXapzHyHaBoLqKOACffDHL YGcnS/eU6XygEmIgy60yg+8= =X+2W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wac7ysb48OaltWcw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 20:54:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B76416A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:54:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danan@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF3643D79 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:54:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danan@videotron.ca) Received: from fram-6c86b05a4c ([70.81.48.151]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0J7C007UMNFGNI10@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:54:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.405 [268.13.4/475]); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:57:00 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:57:00 -0400 From: danan To: questions Message-id: <0J7C007UNNFGNI10@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Foxmail 5.0 beta2 [-fr-] Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Cc: Subject: some issues about partitions and boot manager in dual boot cases with Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:54:59 -0000 Hi, I'm actually looking forward to install on my computer a freeBSD edition (very probably PC-BSD). I found this OS extraordinary after a first experience with a live CD. The only thing that keeps me back is the installation: I got a almost 10 (even not more) manuals about freeBSD and none, absolutely none, does not specify the very commun possibility of having a disk already with 2 partitions in Windows, not to mention even further possibilities as having 2 disks, from wich one having 2 partitions. For instance I have 2 computers, each with 2 SATA disks: on the first, the master, Windows 2000 or XP, and on the other, on the first partition, the other Windows flavor, respectively XP and 2000, the second partition, in both cases, being left for data. Both systems are in dual boot; I decided to have ready (and use) both Windows flavors after a couple of very bad experiences of crushings; thus, in cas of crush, at least on of the 2 OS would be still working allowing me to access the data. Now I decided to install the freeBSD on the second partition of the second disk (in each case more than 100 GB) and I cannot find in any manual how, or even if or not, this second partition, of the second disk will appear in Sysinstall Program; normally, it would appear as a "da2" specification, but will it be recognized by freeBSD as "a disk", that is, a 3rd disk ? And if not, do I have to format, allocating the necessary space, in freeBSD (Unix) system files ? This because this second partition of the second disk is already formated in NTFS of Windows ... In this case, do I have to put exactly the measure of the partition (done in Windows) for formating in freeBSD ? I ask this because in a forum I noticed that someboyd had some problems after leaving a little space between his 2 partitions of the disk (the first with Windows, the second of Linux). And a last thing, even more worring: the booting and the MBR; do I have to leave the MBR untouched or to install the freeBSD boot manager in MBR ? In a Linux manual it is clearly specified, in the chapter about dual boot with Windows, that in this last case - if the Linux boot manager is installed in MBR - than Windows OS (XP or 2000) will not boot anymore ... So, leave the MBR untouched when installing freeBSD or not ? Excuse for my long message but I'm a little exasperated and don't understand why this extremly important aspects are not stressed enough in the BSD manuals: how to install the boot (in case of coexistence with other OS, mostly Windows) and how to choose and partition the disks already partitioned ... I am almost sure that many potential freeBSD users are hold back from installing it because of these capital issues ... Thank you very much Dana From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 21:06:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BB716A407 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1105343D49 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:06:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so258147uge for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:06:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=DKwvQnXM9gXmoUN5/+ipBod3Rpo+efe1iNaj0DjplgeKPtgyQxFfXV4oiDEq3nsY9RMzrYHY5AM0jPbZGR7OI4CSdlijJCej3VyW4ekj48gAE74n/h7Ky4BfQksY0rCesTNQ1rE8TQIgeh7cb9hWPmBqtVpSdV2PjjlumdyTfqc= Received: by 10.78.128.15 with SMTP id a15mr10686978hud; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.167.16 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 01:06:01 +0400 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "Kris Kennaway" In-Reply-To: <20061018192740.GA98393@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1161191718.720.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20061018192740.GA98393@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 45f77a4253ddcc4b Cc: Pavel Porubov , Michael Johnson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome 2.16 and Xorg 7.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:06:04 -0000 On 10/18/06, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 01:31:20PM -0400, Michael Johnson wrote: > > On 10/18/06, Pavel Porubov wrote: > > >Please add Gnome 2.16 and Xorg 7.x to the next FreeBSD 6.2. After about > > >a month there will be Gnome 2.18 and you want to to add to FreeBSD 6.2 > > >just Gnome 2.14. Thanks. > > > > > > > Well.. just because you asked so nice we will put GNOME 2.16 in > > FreeBSD 6.2. > > You travelled back in time a few months to start work on it, too - now > THAT's service! I'm just thinking, why do we always have to lag behind? Can't we just once release something before it's been written (and long before it's been ported to FreeBSD)? Just for kicks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 21:06:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C10416A492 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:06:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eoghanj@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3ED343D49 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:06:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eoghanj@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so258147uge for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:06:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer; b=A+qVHZ1VHQRB6mQYT8PvIyO3FXOvZgXTi3NBJnBqxnROtMvxOGkPbbTwHTxzePwS0Vkou2+XskU55vQ9JumS8+0f+2RI4wewTQoKnoeFvjCW4bg8IUvXh5qEc9q1NhDlPlvR/ya7aXyAzSlv2jVcCrsC+BkN4Np58nZxPVYgIQo= Received: by 10.67.93.7 with SMTP id v7mr12587938ugl; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.33? ( [213.202.166.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e34sm1494079ugd.2006.10.18.14.06.24; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd ORG From: eoghan Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:06:20 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: hald service X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:06:26 -0000 Hi Can I enable hald in my rc.conf. I am trying to start it in console, get no error message but I still cant load the "Removable Drives and Media" option from my System Prefs menu. Say hald service is required but not started.... Using Gnome 2.16, FreeBSD 6.1 Thanks Eoghan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 21:12:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D55A16A412; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED47943D53; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:12:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EDD1A4D89; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 881CF51214; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:12:24 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Andrew Pantyukhin Message-ID: <20061018211224.GA430@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1161191718.720.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20061018192740.GA98393@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Pavel Porubov , Michael Johnson , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Gnome 2.16 and Xorg 7.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:12:32 -0000 --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 01:06:01AM +0400, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > On 10/18/06, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 01:31:20PM -0400, Michael Johnson wrote: > >> On 10/18/06, Pavel Porubov wrote: > >> >Please add Gnome 2.16 and Xorg 7.x to the next FreeBSD 6.2. After abo= ut > >> >a month there will be Gnome 2.18 and you want to to add to FreeBSD 6.2 > >> >just Gnome 2.14. Thanks. > >> > > >> > >> Well.. just because you asked so nice we will put GNOME 2.16 in > >> FreeBSD 6.2. > > > >You travelled back in time a few months to start work on it, too - now > >THAT's service! >=20 > I'm just thinking, why do we always have to lag behind? Can't > we just once release something before it's been written (and long > before it's been ported to FreeBSD)? Just for kicks. Great idea! Let's put that on the todo list for 7.0 :) Kris --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQFFNpi4Wry0BWjoQKURAhnEAJ9SILhXhiuO3BO9bpd+0Oh2K6sPKgCYnYuw X9lu5feYesFuf4SZ8Lxtvw== =gix7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 21:13:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE0716A403 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:13:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DCC43D5A for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:13:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9ILCx1F001643 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:12:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id k9ILCx0B001642 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:12:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:12:58 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:13:10 -0000 This is only for sendmail *wizards* out there. It took me two hours of messing round with the /etc/mail/* files on ns1|sage before I just gave up. After I rebooted both servers to get mail to default to tao. After my first "fatal trap" on 01 Sept, I changed (uncommented) my ^Cw tao.thought.org line on sage's sendmail.cf to get mail going to sage rather than tao. I do realize that this Cw line means: route all mail for "tao" to localhost, which here was sage. With this Cw commented out, mail for kline@thought.org was routed to tao. Uncommented, and mail stayed in sage.thought.org. My one question is given that mail defaults to my ns1.thought.org, HOW can I get it to go to (say) zen.thought.org, or to tao.thought.org? or to ethos.thought.org? OR what re-initialization do I have to do? other than a shutdown -r now?? I thought I had this down cold, but nope..... gary PS: Mail from my magnesium.net account mailed explicitedly to kline@sage.thought.org, kline@ethos.thought.org, kline@zen.thought.org, or kline@tao.thought.org---in other words, using the FQDN-- gets to which ever server. But how do I make "kline@thought.org" reach a specific server?? PS: Apologizes if this seems like an obscure question; it IS.... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 21:37:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D57016A415 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan.grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from diri.bris.ac.uk (diri.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DA943D58 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:37:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jan.grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.16.62]) by diri.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GaJ6P-000077-RM; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:37:31 +0100 Received: from cse-jg.cse.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.12.37]:56730) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1GaJ5Z-0005Vy-QS; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:36:37 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:36:37 +0100 (BST) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: cmjg@tribble.ilrt.bris.ac.uk To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> Message-ID: <20061018223315.D83506@tribble.ilrt.bris.ac.uk> References: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-ILRT-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ILRT-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.295, required 6, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44, AWL 0.14) X-ILRT-MailScanner-From: jan.grant@bristol.ac.uk X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.3 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:37:33 -0000 On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Gary Kline wrote: > My one question is given that mail defaults to my > ns1.thought.org, HOW can I get it to go to (say) zen.thought.org, > or to tao.thought.org? or to ethos.thought.org? OR what > re-initialization do I have to do? other than a shutdown -r > now?? Sounds like you need a mailertable entry that maps your incoming domain name to smtp:whatever.thought.org jan -- jan grant, ISYS, University of Bristol. http://www.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44 (0)117 3317661 http://ioctl.org/jan/ New Freedom of Information Act: theirs, to yours. Happy now? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 21:57:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C7A16A416 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:57:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0C743D58 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:57:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9ILv7q4012057 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:57:08 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9ILv9NJ093135; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:57:10 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9ILv8O2093134; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:57:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:57:08 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20061018215708.GB93083@gothmog.pc> References: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.573, required 5, AWL -0.17, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:57:25 -0000 On 2006-10-18 14:12, Gary Kline wrote: > > This is only for sendmail *wizards* out there. It took me two > hours of messing round with the /etc/mail/* files on ns1|sage > before I just gave up. After I rebooted both servers to get mail > to default to tao. > > After my first "fatal trap" on 01 Sept, I changed (uncommented) my > ^Cw tao.thought.org > line on sage's sendmail.cf to get mail going to sage rather than tao. > I do realize that this Cw line means: route all mail for "tao" to > localhost, which here was sage. With this Cw commented out, mail > for kline@thought.org was routed to tao. Uncommented, and mail > stayed in sage.thought.org. > > My one question is given that mail defaults to my > ns1.thought.org, HOW can I get it to go to (say) zen.thought.org, > or to tao.thought.org? or to ethos.thought.org? OR what > re-initialization do I have to do? other than a shutdown -r > now?? > > I thought I had this down cold, but nope..... > > gary > > PS: Mail from my magnesium.net account mailed explicitedly to > kline@sage.thought.org, kline@ethos.thought.org, > kline@zen.thought.org, or kline@tao.thought.org---in other > words, using the FQDN-- gets to which ever server. But how > do I make "kline@thought.org" reach a specific server?? > > PS: Apologizes if this seems like an obscure question; it IS.... By setting the "MX" records for `thought.org' up so that the one with the lowest value of them all points to that specific server. This should be configured in the name-server which hosts the DNS zone for `thought.org'. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 22:18:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DACC16A412 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:18:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony5.iinet.net.au (ihug-mail.icp-qv1-irony5.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5069543D91 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:18:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from 203-206-173-235.perm.iinet.net.au (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([203.206.173.235]) by mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony5.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 19 Oct 2006 06:18:14 +0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,325,1157299200"; d="scan'208"; a="971378671:sNHT21997572" Message-ID: <4536A7D7.30706@mawer.org> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:16:55 +1000 From: Antony Mawer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vahan Yerkanian References: <453673EA.5090900@arminco.com> In-Reply-To: <453673EA.5090900@arminco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smbfs & rsync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:18:24 -0000 On 19/10/2006 4:35 AM, Vahan Yerkanian wrote: > Greetings, > > On one of my machines running 6.1-RELEASE rsync over a smbfs share is > failing with the following error: > > building file list ... rsync: readdir("/ipa1/tmimage/2001"): Bad file > descriptor (9) > done > IO error encountered -- skipping file deletion > > sent 246047 bytes received 20 bytes 492134.00 bytes/sec > total size is 3876995600 speedup is 15755.85 > rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at > main.c(892) [sender=2.6.8] > > where /ipa1 is a smbfs share. > > I've googled and found this [1] particular article that pinpoints a > simple coding mistake, anyone knows if this is going to be fixed in > 6.2-RELEASE? /usr/sbin/mount_smbfs is the binary affected, > > [1] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/78953 You're on the right track with the PR, and Jim Carroll did the hard work of coming up with a patch for the issue. Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to test the patch, but will try and make time to... I'd imagine this is probably too late to get into 6.2 (any dev's care to comment?), but if we're able to test + verify it works then I don't see why it shouldn't make 6.3. SMBFS could still use a bit of polish in areas... there are also UCS2 patches outstanding that would make talking to MacOSX servers much more pleasant: http://people.freebsd.org/~imura/kiconv/ Cheers Antony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 23:33:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F8616A40F for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F204843D55 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:33:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9INVMjK052344; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:31:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9INVMow052343; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:31:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:31:22 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: danan Message-ID: <20061018233122.GA52067@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <0J7C007UNNFGNI10@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0J7C007UNNFGNI10@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions Subject: Re: some issues about partitions and boot manager in dual boot cases with Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:33:55 -0000 Hi, I am having a little trouble following exactly what you are asking, but will take a shot at some of it, anyway. By the way, please break your lines at about 72 character length. It makes it much easier to read and especially to answer in a text based Email reader such as many of us use. Most Email programs allow you to set this and if yours does not, just hit the ENTER key as your line gets about that long. It will help. > Hi, I'm actually looking forward to install on my computer a > freeBSD edition (very probably PC-BSD). I found this OS extraordinary > after a first experience with a live CD. Yup. It is. > The only thing that keeps me back is the installation: I got a almost 10 > (even not more) manuals about freeBSD and none, absolutely none, does not > specify the very commun possibility of having a disk already with 2 > partitions in Windows, not to mention even further possibilities as > having 2 disks, from wich one having 2 partitions. I guess this is what I do not understand. Most books on FreeBSD that I have seen, including the FreeBSD handbook (available online at the FreeBSD website and is essential reading) ve two possibilities. The first is installing on a disk that is completely given to FreeBSD and the second is dividing the disk between Some other OS (usually MS-Win of some flavor) and FreeBSD. None that I have seen say two partitions in Windows being required (just allowed if desired). > > For instance I have 2 computers, each with 2 SATA disks: on the first, the > master, Windows 2000 or XP, and on the other, on the first partition, the > other Windows flavor, respectively XP and 2000, the second partition, in > both cases, being left for data. Both systems are in dual boot; I decided > to have ready (and use) both Windows flavors after a couple of very bad > experiences of crushings; thus, in cas of crush, at least on of the 2 OS > would be still working allowing me to access the data. Well, you have to make room for FreeBSD somewhere. FreeBSD does not run from a Windows slice. It requires its own slice. Note, the term "slice" which generally corresponds to what the MS-Win world calls a "primary partition" BSD Unix uses the term 'partition' to refer to a subdivision of a slice. That can at first be confusing, because sometimes people forget and use both terms interchangeably and they are definitely not the same thing. Just a little summary: In the MS and also the BSD world a disk can be divided in to four primary divisions which in the BSD world are called slices. In each world there are ways of further dividing the slices in to sub-units. In the BSD world those are called partitions. In the MS world, they have something called extended partitions, (but they are not the same). You need to have at least one slice (primary partition is MS speak) to install FreeBSD. That slice will be designated as a FreeBSD type and MS-Win will no longer be able to talk to it. Although FreeBSD, which is smarter, will be able to talk to most of the other MS-Win slices. (I don't know if it can talk to an extended partition yet or not) That FreeBSD slice can be all of a disk or just part of it and be one of the primary slices which are number 1..4. If a single disk has more than one OS, and one of those is some MS-Win thing, then it is normally better to leave the MS-Win stuff as first on the disk. FreeBSD doesn't care, but MS-Win might skrew up otherwise. If you are going to use a whole disk for FreeBSD, then it doesn't matter. > Now I decided to install the freeBSD on the second partition of the > second disk (in each case more than 100 GB) and I cannot find in any > manual how, or even if or not, this second partition, of the second > disk will appear in Sysinstall Program; normally, it would appear as > a "da2" specification, but will it be recognized by freeBSD as "a disk", > that is, a 3rd disk ? OK. I think you are saying that, on each disk, you have set up two MS-Win partitions. I am presuming by that you mean primary partitions and not some extended thing. You are planning on installing FreeBSD in the second primary partition, which FreeBSD would call slice 2 on disk 1. That is easily do-able. I think SATA disks show up as ad_n. SCSI disks are da_n where 'n' is the disk number starting from 0. In that case your first disk would look like ad0 to FreeBSD and the second would be ad1. If there are two slices on each disk, they would be ad0s1 and ad0s2 on the first disk and ad1s1 and ad1s2 on the second disk. It sounds like you want to put FreeBSD on ad1s2. If I am wrong on this identifier, then it will just be da0 and da1 as with SCSI disks. Just switch the a & d characters in all the commands. > And if not, do I have to format, allocating the necessary space, in > freeBSD (Unix) system files ? This because this second partition of > the second disk is already formated in NTFS of Windows ... In this > case, do I have to put exactly the measure of the partition (done in > Windows) for formating in freeBSD? First, the slice will have to be converted to FreeBSD type. It does not have to be reformatted though as long as the system is able to see it as a primary slice. I think that the FreeBSD fdisk and disklabel that are used in sysinstall will take care of it. But if not, or if you are worried that they won't, then boot the CD and select to choose the fixit item from the install menu (past the boot selection menu) and then run fdisk on each disk. If you run fdisk without any other flags, it will just come badk and give you information about the drive. So, once you get the fixit disk prompt type: fdisk ad0 and then fdisk ad1 and see what it tells you. It will list information for each primary slice. 1..4 and unfortunately, it is once place in FreeBSD that mucks up the terminology and calls them partitions instead of slices - I think because the fdisk routine was adapted from MS at some time in ancient history. The two lines that say The data for partition n is: SYSID nn (OXnnn)...... are the meaningful ones because it tells you what each slice has on it as far as FreeBSD will know. Your main MS-Win slice (primary partition) will probably either show up as either partition 1 or partition 2. There may be some diagnostic piece put on it by the hardware vendor that uses up slice 1 so MS starts in slice 2, but never tells you. But, FreeBSD will tell you. Then, that second slice will show up as either partition 2 or partition 3 depending again on if there is a 'hidden' diagnostic slice on it. It should say that it is of type (0x07) NTFS and a bunch of other things if it is that second installation of MS stuff that you want to overwrite with FreeBSD. If there is nothing else on the drive, then slice 4 and maybe slice 3 will show up with nothing on them, just the 'partition' identifier. If you are worried about that slice being clean and ready for FreeBSD you can blast it by writing a few blocks of zeros on it using dd. Lets say it turns out to be partition 3 on the second drive (ad1) Do the command: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da1s3 bs=512 count=32 Be careful with this because if you do it to the wrong place you will wipe out something you don't want to mess with. I really think you should not need to do this anyway. So, anyway, sysinstall will give you a list of slices that exist with space in them and are thus available for installing FreeBSD. If you want to install in the 'second' slice of that second disk, it will be ad1s2 or maybe ad1s3 if there is a 'hiden' diagnostic partition. > I ask this because in a forum I > noticed that someboyd had some problems after leaving a little space > between his 2 partitions of the disk (the first with Windows, the > second of Linux). I think the problem from that posting (if I remember correctly) was that he had a little space between slices, but not enough to install FreeBSD the way he wanted to and was wondering how to find more space. He wanted to use a utility called growfs, but that only allows it to grow if there is enough space right next to a partition, within a slice. So, he was stuck with rearranging his disk or adding one to get enough space. It is not the same as your situation. If you intend to use all of that 100GB in the 'second' slice on the second disk, you don't have to do anything extra - other than the remote possibility of having to wipe the tables on that slice using dd as I mentioned above. > And a last thing, even more worring: the booting and the MBR; do I have > to leave the MBR untouched or to install the freeBSD boot manager in MBR? > In a Linux manual it is clearly specified, in the chapter about dual boot > with Windows, that in this last case - if the Linux boot manager is > installed in MBR - than Windows OS (XP or 2000) will not boot anymore ... > So, leave the MBR untouched when installing freeBSD or not ? The FreeBSD MBR can boot the MS-Win systems. It works fine. I have three systems sitting right here in my office that do it with XP and W2000. You have to tell it to install the FreeBSD MBR on both disks, not just the one where you are putting FreeBSD. That is because the MS-Win MBR is too weak to boot anything besides MS-Win. So, the way boot works in this case is: The BIOS goes through its boot order looking for bootable media. That order is usually something like: floppy, CDrom, first hard disk Presuming you do not have a floppy or boot CD, then it reads the MBR from the first (and only the first) hard disk. The MBR then looks for bootable slices on its own drive and lists those and then looks for other hard drives that have an MBR and lists those. The bootable slices are listed as F1..F4 and any other disks with an MBR as F5..Fn, so if there are two bootable slices on the first disk (ad0) and an MBR and more bootable slices on the second disk (ad1) then it might look something like this: F1 MS-DOS F2 ???? F5 Then, if you choose F5, it will transfer control to the MBR from the next disk and that one will look up the bootable slices it has. Say you had two bootable slices on that disk, with the second one being FreeBSD, it might look something like: F1 MS-DOS F2 FreeBSD You can choose F2 and FreeBSD will boot or F1 to boot whatever OS is in the MS-DOS slice. I don't know if the sysinstall will install the MBR in both places. You might have to do that by hand in the fixit mode after things are done. Use 'fdisk -B ad0' and 'fdisk -B ad1' for this. The '????' above comes because FreeBSD uses an honest MBR which occupies only one 512 byte disk sector as it is supposed to. That means it doesn't have much room for extra stuff. They crammed in recognizable labels for the identifiers that were know at the time it was first created, and then make all the rest be ????, including those that came on the scene after the FreeBSD MBR was created. Some other MBRs cheat and use more space under the assumption that it will not really be used by the system. That is true in most cases, but is not guaranteed. It gives them the ability to put out more fancy labels, etc at the [small] risk of something not working. By the way, it goes by the file system type (numerical code) in the slice partition table. So, anything that uses a FAT32 or FAT16 will be called MS-DOS regardless of whether it is Win-95 or XP or Win-2000. If it is NTFS, it will display ???? regardless of which version of MS-Win it has, etc. I think there is room for 255 codes in the slice table. I think it would be good if the FreeBSD MBR would put the sysid number it reads up along with the ???? just to help identify it, but maybe that would take too much code space. Anyway, MS the recently (relative to the others) added the NTFS file system type came in to being after the FreeBSD MBR was created and so it gets displayed as ????. If there is a diagnostic slice, it will also probably get displayed as ????. One more thing. This might be something to deal with at another time when you decide on its need and maybe are doing a major upgrade. FreeBSD can read NTSF filesystems, but, so far, it cannot write to them. For that reason, on systems that have NTFS for their MS system, I have put an extra FAT32 slice where I could write stuff from FreeBSD and then read it up in XP or whatever. That would mean dividing up your 100GB in to two slices - one small for sharing data and the rest for FreeBSD. I put that small transfer slice in between the MS and FreeBSD slices so it comes out as either slice 2 or 3 (if there is a diagnostic slice) and FreeBSD goes in to either slice 3 or 4. It works fine and is only needed if you want to write stuff to the MS system using NTFS. > Excuse for my long message but I'm a little exasperated and don't > understand why this extremly important aspects are not stressed > enough in the BSD manuals: how to install the boot (in case of > coexistence with other OS, mostly Windows) and how to choose and > partition the disks already partitioned ... Well, it is pretty well layed out in the FreeBSD handbook, though maybe not quite as pedantically as I have done above. That handbook is important reading. > > I am almost sure that many potential freeBSD users are hold back from > installing it because of these capital issues ... Some of the understanding comes from reading and then just doing and seeing how it all works out. It makes a lot more sense when you try it and see it happening just as the handbook says. For example, choosing the drive and slice on which to install; if you go ahead and run sysinstall, you will see just how it gives you the choice. Don't worry, until it says it is going to really do something, it won't make any changes and you can back out. So, just start it up and follow the steps until it says it will wipe things out and write new stuff and compare what you see with what you need. Good luck and have fun, ////jerry > > Thank you very much > > Dana > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 23:53:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B183916A415 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:53:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E7543D6D for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:53:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9INqruh003678; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:52:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id k9INqrQf003677; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:52:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:52:52 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Jan Grant Message-ID: <20061018235252.GB3342@thought.org> References: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> <20061018223315.D83506@tribble.ilrt.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061018223315.D83506@tribble.ilrt.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:53:10 -0000 On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 10:36:37PM +0100, Jan Grant wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Gary Kline wrote: > > > My one question is given that mail defaults to my > > ns1.thought.org, HOW can I get it to go to (say) zen.thought.org, > > or to tao.thought.org? or to ethos.thought.org? OR what > > re-initialization do I have to do? other than a shutdown -r > > now?? > > Sounds like you need a mailertable entry that maps your incoming domain > name to smtp:whatever.thought.org > Hm. I did use the mailertable until a few years ago. Here's what I had. What I never understood was how the "%1" in the rely entry/line worked. t Now that I (somehow) have kline@thought.org -> kline@tao.thought.org, I'm relectant to mess with things. What *may* have fixed thing was when I put [bck] this mapping into virtuserable. ---I do have scripts to re-pinit stuff, but it didn't work until I did a full reset (reboot). Thanks for this1! Anybody else know how to do change this and reinitialize??? gary Re: ## ## List of domains (possibly wildcarded) and destination mailers ## #.my.domain xnet:%1.my.domain #uuhost1.my.domain suucp:uuhost1 #.bitnet smtp:relay.bit.net # (21dec03 1730) # thought.org tao.thought.org .thought.org relay:[%1.thought.org] -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 23:58:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D1216A415 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timothy@open-networks.net) Received: from vscan05.westnet.com.au (vscan05.westnet.com.au [203.10.1.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD3543D55 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:58:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from timothy@open-networks.net) Received: from vscan05.westnet.com.au (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C78424A309; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:58:30 +0800 (WST) Received: from [192.168.1.201] (dsl-58-6-122-137.qld.westnet.com.au [58.6.122.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vscan05.westnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749A324A552; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:58:27 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <4536BFFB.1060303@open-networks.net> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:59:55 +1000 From: Timothy Smith User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20051013) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: <4536377D.2020909@open-networks.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus: Scanned with PMX 5.2.1.279297, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.10.18.163443 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can burn cd's, can't read once burnt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:58:32 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Thursday, October 19, 2006 00:17:33 +1000 Timothy Smith > wrote: > >> i have an odd issue with 6.0 that i've been trying to solve for ages and >> nobody seems to know how to answer. >> >> 1. i can mount any cd's or dvd's THAT I DIDN'T BURN. makes no difference >> what media is used. >> >> 2. i burn a dvd like so >> >> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd0=bailes.iso >> > Are you sure this shouldn't be > growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/acd0=bailes.iso ? > > Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) > Adjunct Information Security Officer > The University of Texas at Dallas > http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ not unless the freebsd handbook is wrong. it burns the dvd, i just can't mount it on this computer. i can mount under windows. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 00:15:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB96916A4CA for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:15:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D5143D6B for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:15:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9J0ExM8003816; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:14:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id k9J0EhaB003811; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:14:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:14:43 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20061019001443.GC3342@thought.org> References: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> <20061018215708.GB93083@gothmog.pc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061018215708.GB93083@gothmog.pc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:15:16 -0000 On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 12:57:08AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2006-10-18 14:12, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > This is only for sendmail *wizards* out there. It took me two > > hours of messing round with the /etc/mail/* files on ns1|sage > > before I just gave up. After I rebooted both servers to get mail > > to default to tao. > > [[ ... ]] > > My one question is given that mail defaults to my > > ns1.thought.org, HOW can I get it to go to (say) zen.thought.org, > > or to tao.thought.org? or to ethos.thought.org? OR what > > re-initialization do I have to do? other than a shutdown -r > > now?? > > > > I thought I had this down cold, but nope..... > > > > gary > > > > PS: Mail from my magnesium.net account mailed explicitedly to > > kline@sage.thought.org, kline@ethos.thought.org, > > kline@zen.thought.org, or kline@tao.thought.org---in other > > words, using the FQDN-- gets to which ever server. But how > > do I make "kline@thought.org" reach a specific server?? > > > > PS: Apologizes if this seems like an obscure question; it IS.... > > By setting the "MX" records for `thought.org' up so that the one with > the lowest value of them all points to that specific server. > > This should be configured in the name-server which hosts the DNS zone > for `thought.org'. This would work [or ought to!]; right now, all my mail echange entries are equi-valued at 50. But this seems like a back door way of dealing with sendmail. I'm the first to admit that it's a less tha optimal suite, obscure beyond words, (etc). But I'd like to understand how to resolve this problem with senmail.... (*mumble*) gary > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 00:22:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D3516A415 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:22:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FFF43D55 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:22:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9J0M8oN020601 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:22:11 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9J0MiNB002083; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:22:44 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9J0MivG002082; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:22:44 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:22:44 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20061019002244.GA1877@gothmog.pc> References: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> <20061018215708.GB93083@gothmog.pc> <20061019001443.GC3342@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061019001443.GC3342@thought.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.574, required 5, AWL -0.18, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:22:31 -0000 On 2006-10-18 17:14, Gary Kline wrote: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 12:57:08AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On 2006-10-18 14:12, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > This is only for sendmail *wizards* out there. It took me two > > > hours of messing round with the /etc/mail/* files on ns1|sage > > > before I just gave up. After I rebooted both servers to get mail > > > to default to tao. > > > > > [[ ... ]] > > > > My one question is given that mail defaults to my > > > ns1.thought.org, HOW can I get it to go to (say) zen.thought.org, > > > or to tao.thought.org? or to ethos.thought.org? OR what > > > re-initialization do I have to do? other than a shutdown -r > > > now?? > > > > > > I thought I had this down cold, but nope..... > > > > > > gary > > > > > > PS: Mail from my magnesium.net account mailed explicitedly to > > > kline@sage.thought.org, kline@ethos.thought.org, > > > kline@zen.thought.org, or kline@tao.thought.org---in other > > > words, using the FQDN-- gets to which ever server. But how > > > do I make "kline@thought.org" reach a specific server?? > > > > > > PS: Apologizes if this seems like an obscure question; it IS.... > > > > By setting the "MX" records for `thought.org' up so that the one with > > the lowest value of them all points to that specific server. > > > > This should be configured in the name-server which hosts the DNS zone > > for `thought.org'. > > This would work [or ought to!]; right now, all my mail echange > entries are equi-valued at 50. But this seems like a back door > way of dealing with sendmail. I'm the first to admit that it's a > less tha optimal suite, obscure beyond words, (etc). But I'd > like to understand how to resolve this problem with senmail.... Sendmail (or any other MTA, for that matter) should really *trust* the DNS admin to properly configure MX records. There's nothing wrong with relying on MX records which, for example, point to: thought.org. IN MX 10 mx1.thought.org. thought.org. IN MX 20 mx2.thought.org. If I understood what you are trying to do, then a nice set of MX priorities *does* what you want. Why would you want to mess with mailertables? :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 00:22:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076BB16A51E for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:22:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4833E43D46 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:22:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin05-en2 [10.13.10.150]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout13/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9J0Mk4B008251; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (a17-214-13-96.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9J0Mi7h018551; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:22:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20061019001443.GC3342@thought.org> References: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> <20061018215708.GB93083@gothmog.pc> <20061019001443.GC3342@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:22:44 -0700 To: Gary Kline X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:22:48 -0000 On Oct 18, 2006, at 5:14 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > This would work [or ought to!]; right now, all my mail e[x]change > entries are equi-valued at 50. But this seems like a back door > way of dealing with sendmail. I'm the first to admit that it's a > less tha[n] optimal suite, obscure beyond words, (etc). But I'd > like to understand how to resolve this problem with sen[d]mail.... You can override MX prioritization by using a mailertable. But you will need to list IP addresses in square brackets to disable MX lookups and force other MX hosts to relay mail to where-ever you want. Therefore, the simple answer is to make sure that the final destination for email to your domain is listed as the highest- priority MX record (ie, lowest numeric MX value). And you will either need to masquarade for your domain, or you will need to list all of the hostnames for which email is being addressed to in class w (aka /etc/mail/local-host-names) on the mailserver which performs local delivery.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 02:06:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0141016A415 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B28F43D66 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:06:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9J26cEV020705 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:06:38 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.101] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9J26YhG009252 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:06:37 -0700 Message-ID: <4536DD8A.9020003@u.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:06:02 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4536377D.2020909@open-networks.net> <4536BFFB.1060303@open-networks.net> In-Reply-To: <4536BFFB.1060303@open-networks.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.266434, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.10.18.184443 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: can burn cd's, can't read once burnt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:06:42 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Timothy Smith wrote: > Paul Schmehl wrote: > >> --On Thursday, October 19, 2006 00:17:33 +1000 Timothy Smith >> wrote: >> >>> i have an odd issue with 6.0 that i've been trying to solve for ages and >>> nobody seems to know how to answer. >>> >>> 1. i can mount any cd's or dvd's THAT I DIDN'T BURN. makes no difference >>> what media is used. >>> >>> 2. i burn a dvd like so >>> >>> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd0=bailes.iso >>> >> Are you sure this shouldn't be >> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/acd0=bailes.iso ? >> >> Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) >> Adjunct Information Security Officer >> The University of Texas at Dallas >> http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ > > not unless the freebsd handbook is wrong. > it burns the dvd, i just can't mount it on this computer. i can mount > under windows. Not sure, but it's either UDF or ISO9660 format, and if you don't have the correct support built into your kernel or if you don't have the right fs mentioned in fstab, the kernel/mount will refuse to mount the DVD since it doesn't know how to interpret the contents. Try either mounting with -t udf or -t auto and see if you can mount the disk. Also, if the DVD is an audio DVD, you can't mount it; just use a program like xMMs to play it directly by setting up the CDROM plugin properly.. You need to be a part of the operator group, or set the permissions for the drive properly in order to mount it. - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFNt2K6CkrZkzMC68RAo81AKCH5B/4DDoETPxG9IIYpRYHyd/22ACfeShd 5Q1ndeKDiLmEqr8Ip7KgxPc= =XTP4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 02:35:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E4D16A47C for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:35:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timothy@open-networks.net) Received: from vscan02.westnet.com.au (vscan02.westnet.com.au [203.10.1.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8151F43D64 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:35:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from timothy@open-networks.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E84F11DD36; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:35:34 +0800 (WST) Received: from vscan02.westnet.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vscan02.westnet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27174-11; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:35:34 +0800 (WST) Received: from [192.168.1.201] (dsl-58-6-122-137.qld.westnet.com.au [58.6.122.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vscan02.westnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B9411DC5E; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:35:33 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <4536E4CD.7000809@open-networks.net> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:37:01 +1000 From: Timothy Smith User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20051013) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garrett Cooper , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4536377D.2020909@open-networks.net> <4536BFFB.1060303@open-networks.net> <4536DD8A.9020003@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <4536DD8A.9020003@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: can burn cd's, can't read once burnt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:35:40 -0000 Garrett Cooper wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Timothy Smith wrote: > > >>Paul Schmehl wrote: >> >> >> >>>--On Thursday, October 19, 2006 00:17:33 +1000 Timothy Smith >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>i have an odd issue with 6.0 that i've been trying to solve for ages and >>>>nobody seems to know how to answer. >>>> >>>>1. i can mount any cd's or dvd's THAT I DIDN'T BURN. makes no difference >>>>what media is used. >>>> >>>>2. i burn a dvd like so >>>> >>>>growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd0=bailes.iso >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Are you sure this shouldn't be >>>growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/acd0=bailes.iso ? >>> >>>Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) >>>Adjunct Information Security Officer >>>The University of Texas at Dallas >>>http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ >>> >>> >>not unless the freebsd handbook is wrong. >>it burns the dvd, i just can't mount it on this computer. i can mount >>under windows. >> >> > > Not sure, but it's either UDF or ISO9660 format, and if you >don't have the correct support built into your kernel or if you don't >have the right fs mentioned in fstab, the kernel/mount will refuse to >mount the DVD since it doesn't know how to interpret the contents. Try >either mounting with -t udf or -t auto and see if you can mount the disk. > Also, if the DVD is an audio DVD, you can't mount it; just use a >program like xMMs to play it directly by setting up the CDROM plugin >properly.. You need to be a part of the operator group, or set the >permissions for the drive properly in order to mount it. >- -Garrett >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > >iD8DBQFFNt2K6CkrZkzMC68RAo81AKCH5B/4DDoETPxG9IIYpRYHyd/22ACfeShd >5Q1ndeKDiLmEqr8Ip7KgxPc= >=XTP4 >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > none of the above apply, since i can mount the original dvd just fine, but i can't mount the burnt image. :/ i'm at a loss with what to do From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 03:41:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43B916A407 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout7.cac.washington.edu (mxout7.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B398343D62 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:41:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout7.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9J3fb9X019327 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:41:37 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.101] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9J3fUB8013865 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:41:35 -0700 Message-ID: <4536F3DE.7040306@u.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:41:18 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4536377D.2020909@open-networks.net> <4536BFFB.1060303@open-networks.net> <4536DD8A.9020003@u.washington.edu> <4536E4CD.7000809@open-networks.net> In-Reply-To: <4536E4CD.7000809@open-networks.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.266434, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.10.18.202442 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_MEDIA_BODY 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: can burn cd's, can't read once burnt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:41:38 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Timothy Smith wrote: > Garrett Cooper wrote: > > Timothy Smith wrote: > > >>>> Paul Schmehl wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> --On Thursday, October 19, 2006 00:17:33 +1000 Timothy Smith >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> i have an odd issue with 6.0 that i've been trying to solve for >>>>>> ages and >>>>>> nobody seems to know how to answer. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. i can mount any cd's or dvd's THAT I DIDN'T BURN. makes no >>>>>> difference >>>>>> what media is used. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. i burn a dvd like so >>>>>> >>>>>> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd0=bailes.iso >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Are you sure this shouldn't be >>>>> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/acd0=bailes.iso ? >>>>> >>>>> Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) >>>>> Adjunct Information Security Officer >>>>> The University of Texas at Dallas >>>>> http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ >>>>> >>>> not unless the freebsd handbook is wrong. >>>> it burns the dvd, i just can't mount it on this computer. i can mount >>>> under windows. >>>> > > Not sure, but it's either UDF or ISO9660 format, and if you > don't have the correct support built into your kernel or if you don't > have the right fs mentioned in fstab, the kernel/mount will refuse to > mount the DVD since it doesn't know how to interpret the contents. Try > either mounting with -t udf or -t auto and see if you can mount the disk. > Also, if the DVD is an audio DVD, you can't mount it; just use a > program like xMMs to play it directly by setting up the CDROM plugin > properly.. You need to be a part of the operator group, or set the > permissions for the drive properly in order to mount it. > -Garrett > > none of the above apply, since i can mount the original dvd just fine, > but i can't mount the burnt image. :/ i'm at a loss with what to do Cheap DVDs? Old DVD burner firmware? Upgrading your firmware may help a lot in this case, as it did for me with my cheap media in my Phillips DVD+/-RW drive.. - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFNvPe6CkrZkzMC68RAoG1AJ9KKoHghOsbyFzSVAdENBu3sr9WvACaA05M O7lfLs9hZAW3NIIC4Jl8HC0= =tw39 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 05:31:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167FC16A403 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:31:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marmoset@malformed.org) Received: from fincher.users.accretive-networks.net (fincher.users.accretive-networks.net [216.127.44.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE1743D49 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:31:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marmoset@malformed.org) Received: from fincher.users.accretive-networks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fincher.users.accretive-networks.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9J5ViCm024408; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (moses@localhost) by fincher.users.accretive-networks.net (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id k9J5Vixf024405; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:31:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fincher.users.accretive-networks.net: moses owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:31:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Moses Leslie X-X-Sender: moses@fincher.users.accretive-networks.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061018222030.S11323@fincher.users.accretive-networks.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: increasing transmit speeds in WAN setting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:31:48 -0000 Hi, We're running 6.1-R, and are having difficulty getting decent speeds as latency increases. The server is connected via gbit copper, and is gbit or better to the internet (depending on the path). For everything local, we're able to get what you'd expect (300+MBit without really any tuning). However, when the latency is 60-80ms (IE across the US), we're unable to get better than around 300KB/s. It appears to be possibly related to the tcp.inflight stuff, but disabling it or messing with some of the related sysctls doesn't appear to help much. Downloads often start quickly, but are then throttled back down to 300KB/s within 10 seconds or so. We've changed the hz (100 to 10000), the net.inet.tcp.sendspace, kern.ipc.maxsockbuf, and tried different variations on the inflight tunables, but nothing has made a positive difference of more than ~20KB/s at best. If the server is running linux (2.6 kernel with default TCP settings), we can get much better speeds, 600-1000KB/s easily. If we were going for time/distance records, we would try changing around tcp settings on the client, but we're trying to maximize performance for standard surfers who wouldn't know how to do that, so we're looking for anything that is server side only. We've been searching high and low for any tuning ideas but aren't able to find anything that's made a difference. From looking at how the congestion stuff works in the source, it appears that something like: http://www.sigusr1.org/weblog/index.php?/categories/6-Hacks might be happening here, but we're kind of stabbing in the dark. Does anyone have any tuning ideas for 6.1 in a WAN setting? Thanks, Moses From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 05:51:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248AE16A40F for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879B343D45 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:51:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so932789nfc for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:51:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Jlo29DtLyQLH+GS+dC3fqPSqCPKtqh/zUVAZqCfb2+XmWjwoIY8VAPYAqAs9SIUQF/GeiL2jtchU3PCuzGmysdnVv99dEZZiwUn/mKQm9sAh3u2J+A2wiGEb80PbCCRxx9DkcYwnAD7bhgHNhOm6jnw5lZvv4jspJaNWztoFECM= Received: by 10.49.8.15 with SMTP id l15mr5143149nfi; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.67.20 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:21:39 +0530 From: Subhro To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:51:41 -0000 Hello Folks, I would like to know which is the latest version of Xorg present in the ports tree. The one I can find in 6.9. However the latest version present on the Xorg homepage is 7.1 which was release on May 22, 2006. Has it been ported to the ports tree yet? If not when can it be expected to be done. Thanks and Best Regards Subhro -- Subhro Kar Security Engineer iViZ Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd. Dhanshree Bldg, 1st Floor Plot XI-16, Sector V Salt Lake City 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 06:05:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED4316A407 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atmblr@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D1CD43D60 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:05:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atmblr@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so508618wxc for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:05:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=cLFMvGXcPYmVtRBZDb6K16bJ1n/r0/a1eze9yQ2hRSe0kC5zbts9cVqhhpMt0wgVk1MKgGdISZ1D6sh5SvsBvLravV4u6maPy9/HwHubGUQgJaihNwP2yU5+HfV3p2rU4FRRDKh5kLbJP3RQW0wCx9qPMm3lQ0G96TqcSiWSWmU= Received: by 10.70.83.4 with SMTP id g4mr17686531wxb; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.43.15 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:35:24 +0530 From: "Ashok TM" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: sysinfo equivalent in Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:05:27 -0000 Hi, In linux we have "sysinfo" system call which provides overall system statistics. struct sysinfo { long uptime; /* Seconds since boot */ unsigned long loads[3]; /* 1, 5, and 15 minute load averages */ unsigned long totalram; /* Total usable main memory size */ unsigned long freeram; /* Available memory size */ unsigned long sharedram; /* Amount of shared memory */ unsigned long bufferram; /* Memory used by buffers */ unsigned long totalswap; /* Total swap space size */ unsigned long freeswap; /* swap space still available */ unsigned short procs; /* Number of current processes */ unsigned long totalhigh; /* Total high memory size */ unsigned long freehigh; /* Available high memory size */ unsigned int mem_unit; /* Memory unit size in bytes */ } How to find the similar statistics from freebsd , is there any equivalent system call in freebsd. ? I tried using WMMemFree (ports to bsd )without much luck . Regrds atm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 06:38:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B9616A416 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B130F43D46 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:38:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k9J6cOx84042; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:38:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <001801c6f349$1198b320$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Moses Leslie" , References: <20061018222030.S11323@fincher.users.accretive-networks.net> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:37:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: Subject: Re: increasing transmit speeds in WAN setting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:38:35 -0000 Hi Moses, I know your not going to believe me but you are running into a driver bug of some kind. If you have a really high quality ethernet switch with full management in it you can probably see it - login to the switch and look at the port statistics. Cisco routers are designed to sense for this and you will see it in their logs, they will issue the error message "late collissions" or any decent hardware network sniffer will show it. The most common problem is the switch and network card aren't properly negotiating duplex. Another area is flow control on full duplex being messed up, this is particularly critical on gigabit E. The reason your getting good throughput on local connections is that the layer 1 is simply continuing to retransmit until the packet goes through, and the retransmissions are happening so fast that you don't realize it. That is also why latency is so heavily affecting it. You can try several things. First, temporarily try switching over to a 10/100 card like an Intel EtherExpress Pro/100 if you have a PCI slot in the server. If that works then your going to have to try replacing your switch. If you have a really good switch you can try hard coding it's ports speed and duplex and try the same on the server, and see if that does anything. You also should be aware that many of the smaller and cheaper gigabit switches do not have the ability to take sustained gigabit ethernet speeds with back-to-back packets, their internal processors aren't fast enough. Once more, this is a problem that won't show up on a local connection since the retransmissions are so fast. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moses Leslie" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: increasing transmit speeds in WAN setting? > Hi, > > We're running 6.1-R, and are having difficulty getting decent speeds as > latency increases. The server is connected via gbit copper, and is gbit > or better to the internet (depending on the path). > > For everything local, we're able to get what you'd expect (300+MBit > without really any tuning). However, when the latency is 60-80ms (IE > across the US), we're unable to get better than around 300KB/s. > > It appears to be possibly related to the tcp.inflight stuff, but disabling > it or messing with some of the related sysctls doesn't appear to help > much. Downloads often start quickly, but are then throttled back down to > 300KB/s within 10 seconds or so. We've changed the hz (100 to 10000), the > net.inet.tcp.sendspace, kern.ipc.maxsockbuf, and tried different > variations on the inflight tunables, but nothing has made a positive > difference of more than ~20KB/s at best. > > If the server is running linux (2.6 kernel with default TCP settings), we > can get much better speeds, 600-1000KB/s easily. If we were going for > time/distance records, we would try changing around tcp settings on the > client, but we're trying to maximize performance for standard surfers who > wouldn't know how to do that, so we're looking for anything that is server > side only. > > We've been searching high and low for any tuning ideas but aren't able to > find anything that's made a difference. From looking at how the > congestion stuff works in the source, it appears that something like: > > http://www.sigusr1.org/weblog/index.php?/categories/6-Hacks > > might be happening here, but we're kind of stabbing in the dark. > > Does anyone have any tuning ideas for 6.1 in a WAN setting? > > Thanks, > > Moses > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 06:45:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D3716A403 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:45:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD1243D6B for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:45:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k9J6jZx84088; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <002d01c6f34a$10580050$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Dale Johnston" , References: <001201c6f2c9$ee63bd20$3265a8c0@C1052266A> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:44:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: Subject: Re: Uucp mail coming in X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:45:43 -0000 read the smtp standard to find out what the difference is between the envelope address and the header address is. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Johnston" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:27 AM Subject: Uucp mail coming in > I keep getting messages from spammers adddressed to uucp@djcustom.com. Uucp > has been eliminated from my /etc/mail/aliases, why are these still coming > thru? I've even tried aliasing uucp to bit-bucket. they still come thru > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 06:55:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829BE16A415 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:55:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faiyazali30@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708E643D46 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:55:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from faiyazali30@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so949694nfc for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:55:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=PB5KXES1tIvuRr/Za16KTH4DWsV4vDCeR0IJvYmKwrNmMFHSnCPTwGGRmEHIJ2VFJ4EDb9K3n3UFg7eoNhCzmh4CP3SzdVLWE0s+nI8VMnzpDIqhcj1UJ+2NZh3PgNPokNjR/6aFYDnKK69NkAlEXc1C9vxsmE418r9bSencZM8= Received: by 10.78.171.13 with SMTP id t13mr11225333hue; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.174.10 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <72e8ff880610182355p5c500ecfp31ba6bf2d8ab2818@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:55:21 +0800 From: "Faiyaz Ali" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to do health check X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:55:24 -0000 Hi, I'm new in unix world, 1) how to do helthcheck on unix machine ? 2) how the check on system information eg. RAM, CPU, HD capacity Thanks Faiyaz Ali From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 06:58:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03BE316A403 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:58:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBC143D7D for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:57:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k9J6vux84161; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:57:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <004001c6f34b$c9640570$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "Ian Lord" References: <7.0.1.0.2.20061018082011.066e8b60@msdi.ca> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:57:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: Subject: Re: Small Redundant web/mail setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:58:05 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Lord" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 5:34 AM Subject: Small Redundant web/mail setup > Hi, > > I need to setup a high-availability setup for mail/web setup > > I was thinking about the following setup: > > 4 servers total: > overkill, just asking for trouble. > Data Servers: > 1 Server holding all the websites data and mail messages. It > would serve these files via nfs to the application servers. > It would also run mysql > > A second server Also sharing it's content via nfs, > replicating it's data though rsync each ?? minutes. The mysql would > run as a slave of the primary > > Application Servers: > Both servers would be running apache, php, sendmail and > posfix and would serve content from the share nfs drive. > > 1- Is this a viable solution, I mean by that, Is it Like this big ISP > are set up ? > no The really big ISP's use proprietary commercial clustering solutions that make multiple systems appear as one single system. We are talking hundreds of thousands to millions of users. We are not talking 5000 users or fewer. You can easily serve 5K users on a single server. You just need to get good hardware. In other words, costs start at $5000 and go up. A lot of people are under the misconception that they can get several cheap $900 servers and assemble them into a redundant setup that is highly reliable. The real secret is in getting expensive name-brand hardware that doesen't go down. If you can afford that, your fine. If you can't, then you need to find a different table to play at. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 07:06:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FEC16A40F for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:06:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A9743D6A for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:06:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GaRys-000KEI-38; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:06:18 +0200 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:06:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Zbigniew Szalbot X-X-Sender: zbyszek@192.168.11.51 To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: <004001c6f34b$c9640570$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Message-ID: <20061019090221.U77176@192.168.11.51> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20061018082011.066e8b60@msdi.ca> <004001c6f34b$c9640570$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ian Lord Subject: Re: Small Redundant web/mail setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:06:28 -0000 Hello, On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > The really big ISP's use proprietary commercial clustering solutions > that make multiple systems appear as one single system. We are talking > hundreds of thousands to millions of users. We are not talking 5000 > users or fewer. > > You can easily serve 5K users on a single server. You just need to > get good hardware. In other words, costs start at $5000 and go up. Ian - not sure if it is appropriate to ask but because one day I will need to think about a server with solid hardware, what would you advise me to look at? I mean look company-wise? Or simply select from a list of a server-type machines that costs more than 5K? Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 07:18:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6112316A40F for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:18:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from riccardo.diago@pharmaidea.com) Received: from ph-mailbox.pharmaidea.com (81-208-118-135.ip.fastwebnet.it [81.208.118.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E55C43D7B for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:18:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from riccardo.diago@pharmaidea.com) Received: from [192.168.2.50] (helo=[192.168.2.50]) by ph-mailbox.pharmaidea.com with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GaSAJ-0005bq-4B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:18:07 +0200 Message-ID: <453726A2.9060101@pharmaidea.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:17:54 +0200 From: riccardo_diago User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.8 (X11/20060725) X-Accept-Language: it, it-it, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.1.0 OpenPGP: id=1323FB83 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF1C355EEBAE5896E1B079E76" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.2.50 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: riccardo.diago@pharmaidea.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on ph-mailbox.pharmaidea.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: System monitoring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:18:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF1C355EEBAE5896E1B079E76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi all, I'm newbie w/ freebsd. i'm trying to install freebsd 6.1 to create a server only to monitoring the others. Anybody has experience with cacti and nagios? or if u can suggest me other solution would be great. :-) thanks in advance Rik --------------enigF1C355EEBAE5896E1B079E76 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFNyapxr1SyxMj+4MRAozfAJsGX35lEigoQUN9EySc9mbU6NleHgCeOQfR KVPN6OspmiCDT6F2dSQRQMg= =gV+1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF1C355EEBAE5896E1B079E76-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 07:38:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185B116A407 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@aleborg.se) Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA8743D49 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:38:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd@aleborg.se) Received: from ironport2.bredband.com ([195.54.107.84] [195.54.107.84]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20061019073831.WZU2091.mxfep02.bredband.com@ironport2.bredband.com> for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:38:31 +0200 Received: from static-213-115-135-237.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO [213.115.135.237]) ([213.115.135.237]) by ironport2.bredband.com with ESMTP; 19 Oct 2006 09:38:31 +0200 Message-ID: <45372B7C.9010201@aleborg.se> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:38:36 +0200 From: Patrik Jansson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20061018141753.GA12559@schottelius.org> In-Reply-To: <20061018141753.GA12559@schottelius.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ACL: Default and other problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:38:34 -0000 > I experiemented with the ACls under fbsd 5.3 and got some problems > with how freebsd calculates the permissions. I followed the > instructions on [0]. > > My aim is to install default ACLs, so a group of users > (with possible broken umask) can work together on git-repositories. > > The idea is that the default ACL will provide ACL-based rwx access > for the group 'git' (minus real permissions / mask makes rw or rwx > for files, rwx for directories). > > I've mostly problems with default ACLs and the new permissions. > > I put two test-scripts to [1], plus their output (*.output) and > the questions I've to the results (*.question) on a website. > > Any pointers on what I did wrong or in depth FreeBSD-ACL documentation > are appreciated. > I would also like to know if there's a in-depth ACL documentation. I posted a question about ACLs because I'm having difficulties setting up default ACLs. My question was posted 11/10 but I haven't got an answer yet. Cheers, Patrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 08:34:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BA516A407 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marmoset@malformed.org) Received: from fincher.users.accretive-networks.net (fincher.users.accretive-networks.net [216.127.44.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A4243D4C for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:34:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marmoset@malformed.org) Received: from fincher.users.accretive-networks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fincher.users.accretive-networks.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9J8Y09W036313; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 01:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (moses@localhost) by fincher.users.accretive-networks.net (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id k9J8Xv6j036275; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 01:34:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fincher.users.accretive-networks.net: moses owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 01:33:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Moses Leslie X-X-Sender: moses@fincher.users.accretive-networks.net To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: <001801c6f349$1198b320$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Message-ID: <20061019011206.N11323@fincher.users.accretive-networks.net> References: <20061018222030.S11323@fincher.users.accretive-networks.net> <001801c6f349$1198b320$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: increasing transmit speeds in WAN setting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:34:01 -0000 Hi Ted, While I don't totally discount that possibility, I really don't think that's the case. We have over 500 servers, most of them running FreeBSD, and we've seen this happen in multiple cases on different hardware. When it's linux, exact same hardware, exact same cables, this doesn't happen. It's an intel card gbit card, using the em driver. They're uplinked to Cisco 2948-getx switches, which are uplinked to 65xx's, which then go to 12xxx borders. There aren't any collision errors on the port at all: 24 totalCollisionCount = 0 25 lateCollisionCount = 0 26 singleCollisionFrames = 0 27 multipleCollisionFrames = 0 28 excessiveCollisionFrames = 0 and no real errors to speak of, period. The port is auto, since it needs to be to get gbit. All of the non-gbit servers we have are forced 100/full, all cisco switches, all intel 100/pro (fxp) drivers, they all show this same problem. If the server is a 4.9 server, I can get ~400KB/s. If it's 6.1, ~300KB/s. Linux 2.6, ~650KB/s, which is about what I'd expect given the latency and the default settings. All on the same hardware, same switches, same cables. The only error that increments at all is txQueueNotAvailable, which is to be expected as the BDP is figured out. I'm pretty sure that FreeBSD is throttling itself back when it shouldn't be. Thanks for the reply, Moses On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Hi Moses, > > I know your not going to believe me but you are running into a > driver bug of some kind. If you have a really high quality ethernet > switch with full management in it you can probably see it - login to > the switch and look at the port statistics. Cisco routers are designed > to sense for this and you will see it in their logs, they will issue the > error message "late collissions" or any decent hardware network > sniffer will show it. > > The most common problem is the switch and network card aren't > properly negotiating duplex. Another area is flow control on full > duplex being messed up, this is particularly critical on gigabit E. > > The reason your getting good throughput on local connections is > that the layer 1 is simply continuing to retransmit until the packet > goes through, and the retransmissions are happening so fast that > you don't realize it. That is also why latency is so heavily affecting > it. > > You can try several things. First, temporarily try switching > over to a 10/100 card like an Intel EtherExpress Pro/100 > if you have a PCI slot in the server. If that works then your going > to have to try replacing your switch. If you have a really good > switch you can try hard coding it's ports speed and duplex and > try the same on the server, and see if that does anything. > > You also should be aware that many of the smaller and cheaper > gigabit switches do not have the ability to take sustained > gigabit ethernet speeds with back-to-back packets, their > internal processors aren't fast enough. Once more, this is > a problem that won't show up on a local connection since the > retransmissions are so fast. > > Ted > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moses Leslie" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:31 PM > Subject: increasing transmit speeds in WAN setting? > > > > Hi, > > > > We're running 6.1-R, and are having difficulty getting decent speeds as > > latency increases. The server is connected via gbit copper, and is gbit > > or better to the internet (depending on the path). > > > > For everything local, we're able to get what you'd expect (300+MBit > > without really any tuning). However, when the latency is 60-80ms (IE > > across the US), we're unable to get better than around 300KB/s. > > > > It appears to be possibly related to the tcp.inflight stuff, but disabling > > it or messing with some of the related sysctls doesn't appear to help > > much. Downloads often start quickly, but are then throttled back down to > > 300KB/s within 10 seconds or so. We've changed the hz (100 to 10000), the > > net.inet.tcp.sendspace, kern.ipc.maxsockbuf, and tried different > > variations on the inflight tunables, but nothing has made a positive > > difference of more than ~20KB/s at best. > > > > If the server is running linux (2.6 kernel with default TCP settings), we > > can get much better speeds, 600-1000KB/s easily. If we were going for > > time/distance records, we would try changing around tcp settings on the > > client, but we're trying to maximize performance for standard surfers who > > wouldn't know how to do that, so we're looking for anything that is server > > side only. > > > > We've been searching high and low for any tuning ideas but aren't able to > > find anything that's made a difference. From looking at how the > > congestion stuff works in the source, it appears that something like: > > > > http://www.sigusr1.org/weblog/index.php?/categories/6-Hacks > > > > might be happening here, but we're kind of stabbing in the dark. > > > > Does anyone have any tuning ideas for 6.1 in a WAN setting? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Moses > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 08:45:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA9616A416; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gamato@pobox.sk) Received: from exchange.cleverlance.com (exchange.cleverlance.com [82.119.241.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40CC43D45; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:45:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamato@pobox.sk) Received: from [192.168.1.67] ([192.168.1.67]) by exchange.cleverlance.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:45:38 +0200 Message-ID: <45373B31.6020200@pobox.sk> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:45:37 +0200 From: martinko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20061013 SeaMonkey/1.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2006 08:45:38.0857 (UTC) FILETIME=[F3BE2990:01C6F35A] Cc: Subject: running windows applications and making use of existing ms windows installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:45:41 -0000 Hello list, I've been reading for some time about VMWare, Wine, Qemu, Bochs and some others, but I'm still not sure which one would (best) fit my needs: I've got a dual boot and I would like to make use of existing Windows (XP) installation, not having to create a new virtual disk/system and install everything from scratch. Can I use existing Windows installation with some of the existing "emulation" software ?? I would appreciate any suggestions, experiences, how-to's, links, etc. Many thanks! Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 09:09:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C7B16A40F for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from albinootje@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756B343D4C for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:09:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albinootje@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so987800nfc for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:09:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OaEK3xtCyh4N+PMokvFMPTSzeYvgGhyTmLXX5pEVyfQVz+dxhwgQCG42wpPp5jmKMR2SVd4bdPJwPm/34NaA6k1LxQzqbRVwlOeojoWEbeDJbecWueSRzIyJTrQmoD8EJng+kRNHjn79nOXWoiGnc+QG3gmwK551qv86S0IRIF4= Received: by 10.82.120.14 with SMTP id s14mr2687337buc; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.147.15 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6a1189840610190209q39220af1m1bb3bca1f7378008@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:09:50 +0200 From: "albi albinootje" To: martinko In-Reply-To: <45373B31.6020200@pobox.sk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45373B31.6020200@pobox.sk> Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running windows applications and making use of existing ms windows installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:09:54 -0000 On 10/19/06, martinko wrote: > I've been reading for some time about VMWare, Wine, Qemu, Bochs and some > others, but I'm still not sure which one would (best) fit my needs: > > I've got a dual boot and I would like to make use of existing Windows > (XP) installation, not having to create a new virtual disk/system and > install everything from scratch. > > Can I use existing Windows installation with some of the existing > "emulation" software ?? you didn't mention whether you're using NTFS or not on the windows-partition, if you do use NTFS then you already have a problem because you can't write to that partition by default (not sure how far the rw-development is on FreeBSD) vmware server gives you the possibility to use "raw partitions", i've tried that with a linux-partition on an external disc within vmware wine is also a possibility, but wine will by default let you start only 1 app, YMMV last time i tried qemu it didn't support "raw partition" access afair if i were you i would use vmware-server and do a fresh install, easiest and safest From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 10:16:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08F516A407 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from javv@soluciones-noether.com) Received: from foreign-A-02.cablevision.net.mx (foreign-a-02.cablevision.net.mx [200.77.175.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C8443D5A for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:15:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from javv@soluciones-noether.com) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAMLsNkUN X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,329,1157346000"; d="scan'208"; a="110226543:sNHT17236264" Received: from soluciones-noether.com ([10.146.13.94]) by correo.cablevision.net.mx (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J7D00K8PP19MT@correo.cablevision.net.mx> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:27:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from soluciones-noether.com (localhost.soluciones-noether.com [127.0.0.1]) by soluciones-noether.com (8.13.7/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k9JAJgFr045519; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:19:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (javv@localhost) by soluciones-noether.com (8.13.7/8.13.3/Submit) with ESMTP id k9JAJc75045516; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:19:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:19:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "J. Armando Velazco Velazco" In-reply-to: <453726A2.9060101@pharmaidea.com> To: riccardo_diago Message-id: <20061019050732.H45488@soluciones-noether.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <453726A2.9060101@pharmaidea.com> Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: System monitoring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:16:03 -0000 On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, riccardo_diago wrote: > hi all, > I'm newbie w/ freebsd. > i'm trying to install freebsd 6.1 to create a server only to monitoring > the others. > Anybody has experience with cacti and nagios? Hi! :) Nagios+MRTG for monitoring mi little network!(FreeBSD 5.4) and it work very well; list of devices to monitoring: 3 Routers 2 Windows 2000 servers 1 Windows 2003 AS 1 Linux SuSE Server 2 RHEL AS Server 1 Trixbox Server 24 Windows XP And i have not experienced problems at least. Good Day. PS. Sorry, my english is very, very poor. > > or if u can suggest me other solution would be great. :-) > > thanks in advance > > Rik > "No lo intentes, hazlo o no lo hagas, pero no lo intentes; a menudo se dice que no hay Arte sin Disciplina, ni Disciplina \sin sacrificio... creo que tienen raz'on ;) " / \_______ _________________________________________________/ |/ \\|// o o U \~/ =================================== J. Armando Velazco Velazco Soluciones noether SysAdmin http://www.soluciones-noether.com/ Cel. 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For more information please visit http://linux.bitdefender.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 11:36:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129CF16A403 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:36:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phoenix.lists@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8DB43D58 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:36:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phoenix.lists@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so1027683nfc for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 04:36:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:face:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cP3ey/SYCBO5+xVb/OBRhy/I7lH43UxWHbQQQwhY7+tPgaT68L06jvLaiYVcOFrg4xVoaR5y3X3FEGBndXQ8LwrZSUzAEGmSz87MqOWvv7a3ofs3Nv/w0GY3F2AcwNjRLVV6Ycf9S40L5nLUMrW+qPL93gu9vEeOzGepcP+75/8= Received: by 10.49.8.15 with SMTP id l15mr5607166nfi; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 04:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.67.7? ( [85.202.143.206]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c10sm916006nfb.2006.10.19.04.36.49; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 04:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45376352.8080602@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:36:50 +0300 From: Simon Phoenix Organization: Phoenix Lab. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061015) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Faiyaz Ali References: <72e8ff880610182355p5c500ecfp31ba6bf2d8ab2818@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <72e8ff880610182355p5c500ecfp31ba6bf2d8ab2818@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 OpenPGP: id=2569D30B; url=http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/export?id=-8883115982484548853&created=1138842246000 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oUlEQVQY043QsQ2DMBCF4RdRpPQIbBIPlQFcZgxGsaUUlDcCdCkJosES8cXPFkJKFCk0n2z/dwXQ 8uGDWYUsBz7zEO0wLk2AwYgTyXVJdCAv7UlynahDsj7AZqyghV6ukiw0zSQAjidVXxkKEwcieiYr Gi6L3OkKiYgwUQl5Z4QwWWFqKXuyHQkH6tsfpU4/eJq73hA3M+KcL9u1DPivX/cGp2DdNlc2XdMA AAAASUVORK5CYII= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to do health check X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:36:53 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Faiyaz Ali said the following on 19.10.2006 09:55: > Hi, > > I'm new in unix world, > > 1) how to do helthcheck on unix machine ? > > 2) how the check on system information eg. RAM, CPU, HD capacity > 1) I'm using healthd for check temperature sensors and speed of coolers. There are other software for this. 2) From kernel variables by sysctl: hw.model, hw.physmem and others. Read "man 8 sysctl" for details. For HD capacity: read man df Good Luck! - -- Best regards, Simon Phoenix (Phoenix Lab.) - --------------------------------------------------------------- KeyID: 0x2569D30B Fingerprint: 78FC 5C40 07CC D331 148E CC79 84B8 D514 2569 D30B - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFN2NRhLjVFCVp0wsRCuLAAKDX/dmNEb9hYJ8KVb6KOQrixoKAcwCfWqMB D81XW2c/uPkGcvHgQz1WD0M= =IIH6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 12:09:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA34A16A492 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan.grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from diri.bris.ac.uk (diri.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4681B43D45 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:09:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jan.grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.16.62]) by diri.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GaWiU-0006tC-Nt; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:09:53 +0100 Received: from cse-jg.cse.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.12.37]:51344) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1GaWTK-0002Ms-Dz; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:54:02 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:54:02 +0100 (BST) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: cmjg@tribble.ilrt.bris.ac.uk To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20061019001443.GC3342@thought.org> Message-ID: <20061019124436.X42237@tribble.ilrt.bris.ac.uk> References: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> <20061018215708.GB93083@gothmog.pc> <20061019001443.GC3342@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-ILRT-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ILRT-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.284, required 6, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44, AWL 0.16) X-ILRT-MailScanner-From: jan.grant@bristol.ac.uk X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.3 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:09:56 -0000 On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Gary Kline wrote: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 12:57:08AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > By setting the "MX" records for `thought.org' up so that the one with > > the lowest value of them all points to that specific server. > > > > This should be configured in the name-server which hosts the DNS zone > > for `thought.org'. > > This would work [or ought to!]; right now, all my mail echange > entries are equi-valued at 50. But this seems like a back door > way of dealing with sendmail. I'm the first to admit that it's a > less tha optimal suite, obscure beyond words, (etc). But I'd > like to understand how to resolve this problem with senmail.... I would have suggested the DNS approach except that when I looked, tao.thought.org didn't exist in your DNS (as an A record) and since ns1 looked like a dialup account, I assumed you're using NAT. Your mailertable entry on ns1 should probably just read thought.org relay:tao.thought.org or maybe thought.org smtp:tao.thought.org and tao.thought.org should have "thought.org" in it's w class: that is, sendmail.cw or local-whatever-the-file-is-called. You might need "makemap" to recreate the database from your plain file. I suspect that you have an alias set up on ns1 that you're fiddling with. In order to get it to stick, you probably need to run "newaliases". Since that's run on reboot if required, that'd explain your reboot-to-reconfigure behaviour. Cheers, jan PS. If sendmail config is such an arcane art (and it is, unless you do it regularly) you might find there's mileage in installing an alternative MTA. -- jan grant, ISYS, University of Bristol. http://www.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44 (0)117 3317661 http://ioctl.org/jan/ Goth isn't dead, it's just lying very still and sucking its cheeks in. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 12:39:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C555416A407 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from ecluster5.tls.net (ecluster5.tls.net [65.196.224.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62BA843D45 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:39:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 92199 invoked by uid 89); 19 Oct 2006 12:38:36 -0000 Received: from 64-184-9-220.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.103?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.9.220) by auth-ecluster5.tls.net with SMTP; 19 Oct 2006 12:38:36 -0000 Message-ID: <453771DE.1040903@pixelhammer.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:38:54 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions References: <453726A2.9060101@pharmaidea.com> <20061019050732.H45488@soluciones-noether.com> In-Reply-To: <20061019050732.H45488@soluciones-noether.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: System monitoring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:39:24 -0000 J. Armando Velazco Velazco wrote: > > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, riccardo_diago wrote: > >> hi all, >> I'm newbie w/ freebsd. >> i'm trying to install freebsd 6.1 to create a server only to monitoring >> the others. >> Anybody has experience with cacti and nagios? > > Hi! :) Nagios+MRTG for monitoring mi little network!(FreeBSD 5.4) > and it work very well; list of devices to monitoring: > > 3 Routers > 2 Windows 2000 servers > 1 Windows 2003 AS > 1 Linux SuSE Server > 2 RHEL AS Server > 1 Trixbox Server > 24 Windows XP > > And i have not experienced problems at least. > > Good Day. > > PS. Sorry, my english is very, very poor. Don't apologize for knowing two languages, your english is fine ;^) We use both Nagios and Cacti because they really do two different things. We use Nagios to monitor availability as it can do active checks of services, such as checking if http is up. It can also accept passive checks from other systems such as MySQL when MySQL is not listening on TCP. The remote machine checks locally for services, or disk space, etc and reports back to the Nagios machine. Nagios is very configurable as to how and when it alerts you to a potential problem. Nagios though will not record such things as interface statistics with historical data. We use Cacti to monitor status as it retains history which can be 'drilled down' into, it may even do alerts but we have not investigated that yet. We use Cacti to maintain historical data on interface availablity, bandwidth useage, and soon queue sizes, and web directory sizes. Both are very configurable, and I think, make a good team for overall network monitoring and recording. We currenly monitor 12 servers for http, https, up status, https cert, ssh, smtp, pop, smtp-auth, ftp, radius, dns, and custom tests such as OSCommerce. We monitor 20+ routers and other equipment for useage. Read the docs for each and experiment, there is a lot they can do. DAve -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 13:03:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947FD16A403 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A8A43D6A for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:03:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k9JD322j081114 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:03:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200610191303.k9JD322j081114@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <81111.1161262982.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:03:02 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Why csh on Root? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:03:03 -0000 Is there any particular reason why FreeBSD has csh as the default root shell? Nothing really wrong with it except that I quit using csh about twelve years ago and so am a little rusty about the finer details when I come across a csh shell. On a number of FreeBSD4.x systems, I used chsh to change root's shell after installing bash and the only thing I noticed was that one should be careful of the $PATH variable and make sure it at least hits all the same directories in the same order. Other than that, it worked. On a recent upgrade to 5.4, I noticed the C shell is still default so I figured I would ask before changing it so as not to introduce hidden problems later. Basically, I like bash better and also add a couple more paths such as /usr/local/etc for home-grown applications. Thanks for your thoughts. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 13:11:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F8816A412 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.net [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0084B43D6A for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:11:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-111-255.51-151.net24.it [151.51.255.111]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9JDIinY031258 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:18:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k9JDBdvd046160 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:11:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4537798B.6030407@netfence.it> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:11:39 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060915) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 212.31.247.179 Subject: Cannot get mimedefang & spamassassin to use bayes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:11:57 -0000 Hello. This might be a little OT, but the reasons for asking here are two: _ I suspect the ports layout might have something to do with my problem; _ I didn't get any answer on mimedefang's mailing list :-) As per subject, I'm running the most recent ports of sendmail+mimedefang+spamassassin on FreeBSD 5.4. Due to the latest overwhelming increase in spam getting in, I tryed enabling bayesian filters: I trained spamassassin and manually checked that it works quite effectively; however I cannot get it to apply bayes when called from mimedefang. I've put: use_bayes 1 bayes_path /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin in /usr/local/etc/mimedefang/sa-mimedefang.cf. Permissions are as follows: # ls -l /usr/local/etc |grep mail drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Feb 11 2006 mail # ls -l /usr/local/etc/mail/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Oct 15 22:22 spamassassin # ls -l /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/ total 11622 -rw------- 1 mailnull wheel 3624 Oct 15 22:05 bayes_journal -rw------- 1 mailnull wheel 1294336 Oct 15 19:14 bayes_seen -rw------- 1 mailnull wheel 10551296 Oct 15 19:14 bayes_toks -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 941 Aug 24 16:47 init.pre -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 948 Oct 15 18:16 init.pre.sample -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1208 Oct 15 18:16 local.cf.sample -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2395 Aug 24 16:47 v310.pre -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2179 Oct 15 18:16 v310.pre.sample -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 806 Oct 15 18:16 v312.pre -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 806 Oct 15 18:16 v312.pre.sample mailnull is the user mimedefang is running as. What am I missing or doing wrong? Hope someone can help. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 13:22:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F3C16A4E1 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C0F43DD2 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:21:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GaXoy-0004O5-7X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:20:28 +0200 Received: from c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.147.85.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:20:28 +0200 Received: from jdarnold by c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:20:28 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonathan Arnold Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:20:14 -0400 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <200610191303.k9JD322j081114@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060804) In-Reply-To: <200610191303.k9JD322j081114@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Sender: news Subject: Re: Why csh on Root? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:22:57 -0000 Martin McCormick wrote: > Is there any particular reason why FreeBSD has csh as the > default root shell? Nothing really wrong with it except that I The stock answer is that bash is not guaranteed to be available, as it is neither in the standard installation package, nor is it on the / partition. After you have installed it, it will go in the /usr path, which is often a separate partition. If that gets corrupted, and you've changed your root shell to be /usr/local/bin/bash, you won't be able to login as root! Even if you were to copy it to /bin, there might be other dependencies that won't be available. There was a recent thread here that talked about how to work around this. Personally, I just type 'bash' as the first thing when I login as root in single user mode. -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 13:26:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C81016A417 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:26:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E42043D98 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:26:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GaXtr-0005ZV-Nd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:25:31 +0200 Received: from c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.147.85.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:25:31 +0200 Received: from jdarnold by c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:25:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonathan Arnold Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:25:19 -0400 Lines: 54 Message-ID: References: <200610171801.44321.amistry@am-productions.biz> <200610180209.00047.amistry@am-productions.biz> <20061018184431.GA23349@dfwdamian.vail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060804) In-Reply-To: <20061018184431.GA23349@dfwdamian.vail> Sender: news Subject: Re: Problems with USB Palm sync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:26:24 -0000 Damian Wiest wrote: > Here's what works for me on my FreeBSD 6.1 (x86) laptop and > OpenBSD 3.9 (x86) workstation: > > To use pilot-xfer to sync your Palm device > > 1. Connect cradle to system via USB port > 2. Press the sync button > 3. Execute "sudo pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyU0 -s " where PalmDir > is the location of your Palm data. > 4. Files are transferred from the Palm device > > To use jpilot to sync your Palm device: > > 1. Execute "sudo jpilot" > 2. Select the File->Preferences menu > 3. Select the Settings tab > 4. Change the serial port setting to /dev/ttyU0 > 5. Press the hotsync button on your cradle (or use the HotSync app.) > 6. Press the sync button in J-Pilot > 7. Palm device is synced > > I find that I have better luck pressing sync on my device before running > pilot-xfer or using J-Pilot's sync feature. If you do it the other way > around and aren't quick enough, the /dev/ttyU0 device won't be available > and the application won't retry opening it. Thanks for all your help here! When I first read this, I said to myself that it wouldn't help, that I've tried all these various permutations. Imagine my surprise when it *did* work! I will post a complete followup on my blog, but I did have to load the 'uvisor' driver to get this process to work: # kldload uvisor Which I'm sure I played with before, but now it works. Now I am just struggling to get my Palm, which was recently hard-reset, back to where it was a few months ago. I have the data on my hard drive, but I can't seem to figure out the magical incantation to move it over to the Palm. It is in JPilot, but I haven't quite gotten that to work smoothly. > I know I shouldn't be running the apps as root, but I haven't bothered > to configure /etc/devd.conf and /etc/devfs.rules on my laptop. I've played with this a bit and it is a little weird. Again, I hope to have a full report on my blog some day real soon. And thanks for your (and Anish's) help. Learned a lot about run-time devices! -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 12:35:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5184516A407 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:35:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from James.Donohue@usda.gov) Received: from mailproxy1.usda.gov (mailproxy1.usda.gov [199.128.3.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709E843D49 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:35:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from James.Donohue@usda.gov) Received: from (199.128.3.42) by DA32USDCDC1_AVS01.usda.gov via smtp id 5538_a4cd8c9a_5f6b_11db_9e3a_001143d36630; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:16:27 +0100 Received: from 199.128.3.91 by mailproxy1.usda.gov with ESMTP (USDA Proxy SMTP Relay (Email Firewall v6.2.1)); Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:35:15 -0400 X-Server-Uuid: ACE7DE96-6780-4420-A6FE-4946308AA4BF Received: (from x400@localhost) by ds.usda.gov (8.9.3 ( PHNE_24419)/8.9.3) id IAA29905 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200610191235.IAA29905@ds.usda.gov> Received: by /C=US/A=_/P=USDA-OCIO/ via NFT with NetJunction (6.0.2-p2); Thu, 19 Oct 2006 8:34:23 -0400 From: "James.Donohue@usda.gov" Sender: "James.Donohue@usda.gov" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-NJ-P1MID: [/P=USDA-OCIO/A=_/C=US/;KCOCIOEXMAIL-061019123420Z-17004] Alternate-Recipient: Allowed Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited X400-Content-Return: Allowed X-Implicit-Conv-Prohibited: FALSE X-Mailer: NetJunction (NetJunction 6.0.2-p2)/MIME MIME-Version: 1.0 X-TMWD-Spam-Summary: TS=20061019123517; SEV=2.0.1; DFV=A2006101904; IFV=2.0.4,4.0-8; RPD=4.00.0004; ENG=IBF; RPDID=303030312E30413031303230362E34353337373039362E303030373A5343464D413534323838382D462D4D7456557A4B3830614D506C3838327A303032734B773D3D; CAT=NONE; CON=NONE X-MMS-Spam-Filter-ID: A2006101904_4.00.0004_4.0-8 X-WSS-ID: 6929AE891US1310434-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:28:06 +0000 Cc: Subject: Unsupported X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:35:26 -0000 I am wondering what versions of Free BSD are no longer supported? Thanks. James "Jim" Donohue Cyber Security Operations Division USDA\OCIO\CS\CSOD Phone: 816-823-2377 Cell: 913-205-7205 Fax: 816-823-1418 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 13:34:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D8616A4AB for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from smtp108.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp108.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 920EE43D8D for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:34:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: (qmail 41134 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2006 13:34:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.mikestammer.com) (mikestammer@sbcglobal.net@70.131.101.46 with login) by smtp108.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2006 13:34:06 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3647B for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:34:06 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from mail.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iWGhCo9o4HfJ for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:34:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9AF75 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:34:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <45377ECB.6070009@mikestammer.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:34:03 -0500 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" References: <200610191235.IAA29905@ds.usda.gov> In-Reply-To: <200610191235.IAA29905@ds.usda.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Unsupported X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:34:12 -0000 James.Donohue@usda.gov wrote: > I am wondering what versions of Free BSD are no longer supported? Thanks. > > James "Jim" Donohue > > Cyber Security Operations Division > > USDA\OCIO\CS\CSOD > > Phone: 816-823-2377 > > Cell: 913-205-7205 > > Fax: 816-823-1418 > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" check here and scroll down a little to the table under 'FreeBSD Security Advisories' http://www.freebsd.org/security/ anything older than this: RELENG_4 n/a n/a n/a January 31, 2007 is unsupported and v4 will reach EOL 01/31/2007 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 13:35:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326CA16A412 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:35:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from buhnux@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACFF43D8A for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:35:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from buhnux@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so129854wri for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:35:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=WqHsdneB2Bw7Ew2aHTbnmlokWT01GV5xXqp+kJSRp9wDK4//+uD+LBPg0UZa83fC8wKX9Oa7OG4XaDGDnTl9GiV9OO1xYjdESPDPBzk3Q9L2Fcsif2WmcpC+yBP+lRXmo5PP7cCExcS3Ge7dstGNH/AICv5KuBz3l0mNrgTRZzQ= Received: by 10.78.150.7 with SMTP id x7mr11767690hud; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.183.17 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:35:08 -0400 From: "Michael Johnson" Sender: buhnux@gmail.com To: "James.Donohue@usda.gov" In-Reply-To: <200610191235.IAA29905@ds.usda.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200610191235.IAA29905@ds.usda.gov> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 46664b72e5086535 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Unsupported X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:35:31 -0000 On 10/19/06, James.Donohue@usda.gov wrote: > I am wondering what versions of Free BSD are no longer supported? Thanks. > http://www.freebsd.org/releng/#freeze has a list of "not officially" supported versions. http://people.freebsd.org/~linimon/schedule/schedule.html has a nice graph of supported versions. > James "Jim" Donohue > > Cyber Security Operations Division > > USDA\OCIO\CS\CSOD > > Phone: 816-823-2377 > > Cell: 913-205-7205 > > Fax: 816-823-1418 > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 13:36:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C5616A403 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9925643D76 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:36:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A5CDB673A for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:36:01 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: ZZUxJ2tqGMTi+p9AiwTuMfQ77dUkJ1JB7JThbzc4wMRm 1161264960 Received: from gumby.localdomain (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BCF63A9 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:36:00 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:35:53 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <200610191303.k9JD322j081114@dc.cis.okstate.edu> In-Reply-To: <200610191303.k9JD322j081114@dc.cis.okstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610191435.55488.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Why csh on Root? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:36:01 -0000 On Thursday 19 October 2006 14:03, Martin McCormick wrote: > Is there any particular reason why FreeBSD has csh as the > default root shell? Nothing really wrong with it except that I > quit using csh about twelve years ago and so am a little rusty > about the finer details when I come across a csh shell. On a > number of FreeBSD4.x systems, I used chsh to change root's shell > after installing bash and the only thing I noticed was that one > should be careful of the $PATH variable and make sure it at least > hits all the same directories in the same order. Other than > that, it worked. > > On a recent upgrade to 5.4, I noticed the C shell is > still default so I figured I would ask before changing it so as > not to introduce hidden problems later. Basically, I like bash > better and also add a couple more paths such as /usr/local/etc > for home-grown applications. There are problems with using a root shell that isn't entirely on the root partition. See the faq and search the list for details. There is an alternative uid 0 user called toor which you can use if you want to use bash as root. OTOH hand there is a school of thought that you shouldn't be too comfortable as root. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 14:10:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1ED16A4D8 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D162643D5F for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:10:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC13FDB675F for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:10:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:10:43 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: KNsHia6Rw5HSHkScrEc6JttYTqewGe0c5Ump4UitC02e 1161267042 Received: from gumby.localdomain (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B9113EDA for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:10:42 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:10:34 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610191510.38162.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: sysinfo equivalent in Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:10:45 -0000 On Thursday 19 October 2006 07:05, Ashok TM wrote: > How to find the similar statistics from freebsd , is there any equivalent > system call in freebsd. ? > > I tried using WMMemFree (ports to bsd )without much luck . top gets this kind of thing from sysctl. Be aware though that free memory is a meaningless concept in FreeBSD, it's almost always 1-3% of total memory. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 14:13:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B010216A4B3 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net (rwcrmhc15.comcast.net [204.127.192.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CA243DBA for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:11:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from [208.206.151.59] (host59.gtisd.com?[208.206.151.59]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with ESMTP id <20061019141153m15008r3i9e>; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:11:53 +0000 Message-ID: <453787A8.2050700@computer.org> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:11:52 -0500 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061018) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [OT] MySQL Health check? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:13:25 -0000 Hello, This is not a FreeBSD question... but The community is much more helpful than most, so I thought I'd try here. I have MySQL server on my laptop. Its just for play so not really worried about any data. I recently portupgraded a ton of stuff. Jumped though some unforeseen hoops and finally rebooted. Upon reboot, the machine appeared to hang as XDM came up. I eventually resorted to turning it off. Brought it up in single user mode, and ran fsck. fsck found some bad stuff on my /usr filesystem, all with owner mysql. I selected yes to all clear/salvage options (right or wrong). I had assumed mysql would be messed up but it "appears" fine. So my MySQL question is... How can I check/verify the overall health of MySQL? Something like fsck for MySQL? I have tried googling this, but frankly I don't even know what to google for, so I'm not finding much. Thanks. -- Regards, Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 14:20:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B3716A403 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from smtp101.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp101.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.104]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B04C43D80 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:19:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: (qmail 71034 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2006 14:19:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.mikestammer.com) (mikestammer@sbcglobal.net@70.131.101.46 with login) by smtp101.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2006 14:19:34 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727FD7B for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:19:34 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from mail.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 036qK8rbRhi5 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:19:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12FF175 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:19:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <45378974.60204@mikestammer.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:19:32 -0500 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <453787A8.2050700@computer.org> In-Reply-To: <453787A8.2050700@computer.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [OT] MySQL Health check? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:20:44 -0000 Eric Schuele wrote: > Hello, > > This is not a FreeBSD question... but The community is much more helpful > than most, so I thought I'd try here. > > I have MySQL server on my laptop. Its just for play so not really > worried about any data. I recently portupgraded a ton of stuff. Jumped > though some unforeseen hoops and finally rebooted. Upon reboot, the > machine appeared to hang as XDM came up. I eventually resorted to > turning it off. Brought it up in single user mode, and ran fsck. fsck > found some bad stuff on my /usr filesystem, all with owner mysql. I > selected yes to all clear/salvage options (right or wrong). I had > assumed mysql would be messed up but it "appears" fine. > > So my MySQL question is... > How can I check/verify the overall health of MySQL? Something like fsck > for MySQL? > > I have tried googling this, but frankly I don't even know what to google > for, so I'm not finding much. > > Thanks. google for mysql repair database mysql repair table and you will get a ton of stuff about how to go about checking/repairing your data. it depends on what kind of databases you have, etc. so you might have to view a few links. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 14:25:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3519716A4AB for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:25:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from usagi-users-admin@linux-ipv6.org) Received: from nezu.linux-ipv6.org (linux6.nezu.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCD643E3B for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:23:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from usagi-users-admin@linux-ipv6.org) Received: from nezu.linux-ipv6.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezu.linux-ipv6.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id k9JENp9J026042 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:23:51 +0900 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:23:51 +0900 From: usagi-users-admin@linux-ipv6.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <200610192323.FMLAAB26037.usagi-users@linux-ipv6.org> References: <200610191410.k9JEA4jN022545@nezu.linux-ipv6.org> X-MLServer: fml [fml 4.0.3 release (20011202/4.0.3)] X-ML-Info: If you have a question, please contact usagi-users-admin@linux-ipv6.org; Subject: You freebsd-questions@freebsd.org are not member (usagi-users ML) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:25:58 -0000 You are not a member of this mailing list . 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 14:55:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAEF16A403 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:55:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.200.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFF143D46 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:55:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from [208.206.151.59] (host59.gtisd.com?[208.206.151.59]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20061019145546012001qi0ie>; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:55:46 +0000 Message-ID: <453791F1.1090104@computer.org> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:55:45 -0500 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061018) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric References: <453787A8.2050700@computer.org> <45378974.60204@mikestammer.com> In-Reply-To: <45378974.60204@mikestammer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: [OT] MySQL Health check? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:55:47 -0000 On 10/19/06 09:19, Eric wrote: > Eric Schuele wrote: >> Hello, >> >> This is not a FreeBSD question... but The community is much more >> helpful than most, so I thought I'd try here. >> >> I have MySQL server on my laptop. Its just for play so not really >> worried about any data. I recently portupgraded a ton of stuff. >> Jumped though some unforeseen hoops and finally rebooted. Upon >> reboot, the machine appeared to hang as XDM came up. I eventually >> resorted to turning it off. Brought it up in single user mode, and >> ran fsck. fsck found some bad stuff on my /usr filesystem, all with >> owner mysql. I selected yes to all clear/salvage options (right or >> wrong). I had assumed mysql would be messed up but it "appears" fine. >> >> So my MySQL question is... >> How can I check/verify the overall health of MySQL? Something like >> fsck for MySQL? >> >> I have tried googling this, but frankly I don't even know what to >> google for, so I'm not finding much. >> >> Thanks. > > google for > > mysql repair database > mysql repair table > Yep.. that turned some good stuff up (`mysqlcheck -A`). Thanks. > and you will get a ton of stuff about how to go about checking/repairing > your data. it depends on what kind of databases you have, etc. so you > might have to view a few links. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Regards, Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 15:10:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6026616A494 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:10:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob.middaugh@comcast.net) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [216.148.227.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0974D43D5D for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:10:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob.middaugh@comcast.net) Received: from freebsd (c71476f2.state.nj.us[199.20.118.242]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20061019151008m1300lel63e>; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:10:09 +0000 From: "Bob M." To: riccardo_diago In-Reply-To: <453726A2.9060101@pharmaidea.com> References: <453726A2.9060101@pharmaidea.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:12:23 -0400 Message-Id: <1161270743.26145.67.camel@freebsd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: System monitoring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob.middaugh@comcast.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:10:19 -0000 On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 09:17 +0200, riccardo_diago wrote: > hi all, > I'm newbie w/ freebsd. > i'm trying to install freebsd 6.1 to create a server only to monitoring > the others. > Anybody has experience with cacti and nagios? > or if u can suggest me other solution would be great. :-) > > thanks in advance > > Rik There's a lot of good stuff in /usr/ports/net-mgmt. If you read the long descriptions for them, that may help: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/net-mgmt.html Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 15:12:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F165816A415 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6816E43D68 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:12:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.6/8.13.8) id k9JFCRQf061001; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:12:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:12:27 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Ashok TM , RW Message-ID: <20061019151226.GC96296@dan.emsphone.com> References: <200610191510.38162.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200610191510.38162.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinfo equivalent in Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:12:35 -0000 In the last episode (Oct 19), Ashok TM said: > In linux we have "sysinfo" system call which provides overall system > statistics. > struct sysinfo { > long uptime; /* Seconds since boot */ > unsigned long loads[3]; /* 1, 5, and 15 minute load averages */ > unsigned long totalram; /* Total usable main memory size */ > unsigned long freeram; /* Available memory size */ > unsigned long sharedram; /* Amount of shared memory */ > unsigned long bufferram; /* Memory used by buffers */ > unsigned long totalswap; /* Total swap space size */ > unsigned long freeswap; /* swap space still available */ > unsigned short procs; /* Number of current processes */ > unsigned long totalhigh; /* Total high memory size */ > unsigned long freehigh; /* Available high memory size */ > unsigned int mem_unit; /* Memory unit size in bytes */ > } > > How to find the similar statistics from freebsd , is there any equivalent > system call in freebsd. ? In the last episode (Oct 19), RW said: > On Thursday 19 October 2006 07:05, Ashok TM wrote: > > > How to find the similar statistics from freebsd , is there any equivalent > > system call in freebsd. ? > > > > I tried using WMMemFree (ports to bsd )without much luck . > > top gets this kind of thing from sysctl. Specifically: kern.boottime for uptime vm.loadavg for system load vm.stats.vm.* for the memory stats -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 15:24:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455E716A412 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ke.han@redstarling.com) Received: from smtp104.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp104.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C95A043D78 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:24:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ke.han@redstarling.com) Received: (qmail 84806 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2006 15:24:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.20?) (ke.han@redstarling.com@218.79.209.77 with plain) by smtp104.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2006 15:24:41 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions Questions list From: ke han Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:24:30 +0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: FreeBSD 6.1 max sockets X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:24:43 -0000 I am writing a socket server deamon in C++ on FreeBSD 6.1 (or 6.2 if this matters to your answer). What this does is accept many sockets and does a little work with each. Each socket has low traffic but stay connected for long periods. All these sockets get accepted through one public ip:port (if this matters). So my desire is two things: 1 - good event handling for knowing which sockets have new data. I assume kqueue is the way to go here? 2 - I need to know what my limits are on max number of sockets. If my system is a 64-bit install on a server with 8GB RAM, I need to know how many sockets I can handle. Also, what options do I have to tune this? socket buffer size? Any kernel parameters needed to tune? thanks, ke han From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 15:27:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D6816A403 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:27:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CA443D4C for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:27:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9JFOw6f057230; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:24:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9JFOwJq057229; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:24:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:24:58 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Martin McCormick Message-ID: <20061019152458.GD55241@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <200610191303.k9JD322j081114@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200610191303.k9JD322j081114@dc.cis.okstate.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why csh on Root? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:27:40 -0000 On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 08:03:02AM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > Is there any particular reason why FreeBSD has csh as the > default root shell? Nothing really wrong with it except that I > quit using csh about twelve years ago and so am a little rusty > about the finer details when I come across a csh shell. On a > number of FreeBSD4.x systems, I used chsh to change root's shell > after installing bash and the only thing I noticed was that one > should be careful of the $PATH variable and make sure it at least > hits all the same directories in the same order. Other than > that, it worked. > > On a recent upgrade to 5.4, I noticed the C shell is > still default so I figured I would ask before changing it so as > not to introduce hidden problems later. Basically, I like bash > better and also add a couple more paths such as /usr/local/etc > for home-grown applications. No reason that I know of. Just someone liked it better. It is a little nicer for interactive use. I think the FreeBSD csh is really tcsh anyway. Most scripts still specify /bin/sh so they don't use csh. ////jerry > > Thanks for your thoughts. > > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK > Systems Engineer > OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 15:28:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A040816A4C2 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leofante@gawab.com) Received: from smtp7.libero.it (smtp7.libero.it [193.70.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E4043D5E for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:28:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leofante@gawab.com) Received: from localhost (172.16.1.17) by smtp7.libero.it (7.0.027-DD01) id 451C4E6A01B9F10C for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:28:15 +0200 Received: from smtp3.libero.it ([172.16.1.53]) by localhost (asav12.libero.it [193.70.192.95]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03866-05-7 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:28:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (adsl-ull-81-162.44-151.net24.it [151.44.162.81]) by smtp3.libero.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE1AABE11 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:28:14 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <4537998D.40202@gawab.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:28:13 +0200 From: leo fante User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0642-3, 10/19/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Scanned: with antispam and antivirus automated system at libero.it Cc: Subject: Digitemp on freebsd 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:28:26 -0000 Hi I'm trying to use digitemp (http://www.digitemp.com) on freebsd6.1 but my attempt so far is without success. Here what I've done, on a minimal freebsd installation: downloaded the 3.4.0 tgz, installed gmake, then compiled with "gmake ds9097" ( worked without errors) ./digitemp_9097 -i -s /dev/ttyd0 -q -c ./config to initialize the program Digitemp starts and then nothing happens. I'm using a passive circuit and I've verified that it works. Installed linux on the same machine and it works. I've checked that the serial interface on the freebsd machine works correctly connecting a serial modem and issuing ati command from minicom. Used root to avoid problems connected with permissions, chmodded to 777 all /dev/ttyd*, tried ttyd1 the result is always the same, the program starts without errors and just stays there doing (apparently) nothing, to exit I've to interrupt the execution. Since there are no errors I've no other idea of what is wrong. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks Leo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 15:32:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971F816A407 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erazorbg@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EEE43D72 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:32:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from erazorbg@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so418769uge for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:32:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=iXc2W1RXJOsGUmAR6VnPx/pHSgNuRi1Ji5hKEYnAXOz2jPI0JwcFxFR+2RBFGsoJNZmZWEJ9/4MLXLsZoK0vwnIKhVAo5UZyLAuvmCkkAQi/RQLNUTU4w0IQlHGTBo5nlnPFmlnRuai9oFGsG+95v7v5yBb4VQlWh28zsy0djfY= Received: by 10.82.126.19 with SMTP id y19mr87593buc; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.129.16 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7cc8007f0610190832u5b5f637dv756ca91d5f99d770@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:32:14 +0300 From: "Dimiter Ivanov" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Flash player 9 Beta is Live X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:32:22 -0000 http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/10/beta_is_live.html I have downloaded the stand alone player and it works out of the box. Anyone having expirience with the browser plugin ? I'm using 6.1 Release and KDE 3.5.4 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 15:34:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE2816A417 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:34:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14F043D68 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:34:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9JFVkWt057578; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:31:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9JFVkAC057577; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:31:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:31:46 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Jonathan Arnold Message-ID: <20061019153146.GE55241@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <200610191303.k9JD322j081114@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why csh on Root? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:34:57 -0000 On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 09:20:14AM -0400, Jonathan Arnold wrote: > Martin McCormick wrote: > > Is there any particular reason why FreeBSD has csh as the > >default root shell? Nothing really wrong with it except that I > > The stock answer is that bash is not guaranteed to be available, > as it is neither in the standard installation package, nor is it > on the / partition. After you have installed it, it will go in > the /usr path, which is often a separate partition. If that gets > corrupted, and you've changed your root shell to be /usr/local/bin/bash, > you won't be able to login as root! Even if you were to copy it > to /bin, there might be other dependencies that won't be available. > > There was a recent thread here that talked about how to work around > this. Personally, I just type 'bash' as the first thing when I login > as root in single user mode. Then, there those of us who have not fallen to the depths of using bash. Someone must have been trying to lift us all our of our misery... The BSD default was always /bin/sh. bash has never been a BSD thing - even though Linuxees tend to fall in to it - even though bash follows the /bin/sh family and csh-tcsh does not. ////jerry > -- > Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) > Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: > http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ > > UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 16:13:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC23416A40F for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:13:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marmoset@malformed.org) Received: from fincher.users.accretive-networks.net (fincher.users.accretive-networks.net [216.127.44.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4344B43D4C for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:13:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marmoset@malformed.org) Received: from fincher.users.accretive-networks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fincher.users.accretive-networks.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9JGD5h2072081 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (moses@localhost) by fincher.users.accretive-networks.net (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id k9JGD528072078 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:13:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fincher.users.accretive-networks.net: moses owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:13:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Moses Leslie X-X-Sender: moses@fincher.users.accretive-networks.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20061018222030.S11323@fincher.users.accretive-networks.net> Message-ID: <20061019091012.U11323@fincher.users.accretive-networks.net> References: <20061018222030.S11323@fincher.users.accretive-networks.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: increasing transmit speeds in WAN setting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:13:07 -0000 One other point of data is tha that this is a per-flow limit. If we do 10 wget's or whatever, it will be approximately 10x the data rate, IE 30MBit vs 3Mbit. Thanks, Moses On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Moses Leslie wrote: > Hi, > > We're running 6.1-R, and are having difficulty getting decent speeds as > latency increases. The server is connected via gbit copper, and is gbit > or better to the internet (depending on the path). > > For everything local, we're able to get what you'd expect (300+MBit > without really any tuning). However, when the latency is 60-80ms (IE > across the US), we're unable to get better than around 300KB/s. > > It appears to be possibly related to the tcp.inflight stuff, but disabling > it or messing with some of the related sysctls doesn't appear to help > much. Downloads often start quickly, but are then throttled back down to > 300KB/s within 10 seconds or so. We've changed the hz (100 to 10000), the > net.inet.tcp.sendspace, kern.ipc.maxsockbuf, and tried different > variations on the inflight tunables, but nothing has made a positive > difference of more than ~20KB/s at best. > > If the server is running linux (2.6 kernel with default TCP settings), we > can get much better speeds, 600-1000KB/s easily. If we were going for > time/distance records, we would try changing around tcp settings on the > client, but we're trying to maximize performance for standard surfers who > wouldn't know how to do that, so we're looking for anything that is server > side only. > > We've been searching high and low for any tuning ideas but aren't able to > find anything that's made a difference. From looking at how the > congestion stuff works in the source, it appears that something like: > > http://www.sigusr1.org/weblog/index.php?/categories/6-Hacks > > might be happening here, but we're kind of stabbing in the dark. > > Does anyone have any tuning ideas for 6.1 in a WAN setting? > > Thanks, > > Moses > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 16:40:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBCB316A412 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vcrobe@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3449D43D45 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:40:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vcrobe@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c59so862692pyc for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:40:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=YNbfMFlqPyDKSE62VGvQeXIb/MAEDDtTAroSwo85t7lP2987mfDpT9VFnHNxuBmyTQakroZZyWnrWvHUu7schzT+qjWkRNvFuvHjz2RUB61OCfNTY7vNgHpgBNjF96dgp37E4TOUx7S6GHv5fmEd6pjRj42z9oJ2vx6Ntcv+Sqg= Received: by 10.35.9.2 with SMTP id m2mr164636pyi; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.42.2 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <221c791e0610190907s6bd1d51rc5997814a38b0132@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:07:01 -0500 From: Robe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: About the "Full" Kernel API documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:40:18 -0000 Hi, I wanna know if there's available the full documentation of the Kernel API. I need it in digital format. Thanks, -- Robe. I have only one superstition. I touch all the bases when I hit a home run. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 16:49:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E905E16A4B3 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A70843D62 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:49:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k9JGmxOl017063 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:49:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200610191649.k9JGmxOl017063@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <17061.1161276539.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:48:59 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Why csh on Root? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:49:02 -0000 RW writes: > There is an alternative uid 0 user called toor which you can use if you > want > to use bash as root. OTOH hand there is a school of thought that you > shouldn't be too comfortable as root. My thanks to all. On all the systems in question, bash ends up on the same partition as root, but the points are well-taken. One thing I was trying to accomplish is to have a bell in the root prompt. In the .cshrc file is a string set prompt="\007\!# " I have also tried replacing the \007 with the actual Control-G and even a \a. All produce an attempt to render a bell but what is sent to the remote terminal is ^G1# as in the actual ASCII characters ^ and G. I am not sure what to do to correct this problem as I do not get it in bash. A \a or \007 is sent literally. The env output for root on this system shows no environmental variables that should inhibit the beep so I am kind of stumped. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 16:55:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1415B16A500 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E15943D6A for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:55:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin05-en2 [10.13.10.150]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout16/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9JGtZWk000762; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:55:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (a17-214-13-96.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9JGtXDS010770; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:55:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <221c791e0610190907s6bd1d51rc5997814a38b0132@mail.gmail.com> References: <221c791e0610190907s6bd1d51rc5997814a38b0132@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4540753C-F5F2-407C-B42C-4B8A298E1481@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:55:30 -0700 To: Robe X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: About the "Full" Kernel API documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:55:37 -0000 On Oct 19, 2006, at 9:07 AM, Robe wrote: > I wanna know if there's available the full documentation of the > Kernel API. > I need it in digital format. Certainly. Use the source, Luke: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/ -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 17:13:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E01F16A412 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:13:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884CD43DF1 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:12:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9JH8p2l060723; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:08:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9JH8oqo060722; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:08:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:08:50 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Dimiter Ivanov Message-ID: <20061019170850.GA60680@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <7cc8007f0610190832u5b5f637dv756ca91d5f99d770@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7cc8007f0610190832u5b5f637dv756ca91d5f99d770@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash player 9 Beta is Live X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:13:00 -0000 On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 06:32:14PM +0300, Dimiter Ivanov wrote: > http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/10/beta_is_live.html > > I have downloaded the stand alone player and it works out of the box. > Anyone having expirience with the browser plugin ? > > I'm using 6.1 Release and KDE 3.5.4 OK. That sounds promising. But, is this limited to KDE or how about plain Firefox running on plain ole FreeBSD 6.1 with a fairly plain Windows manager? Does it requite the Lunix compatibility stuff? I am reading through the stuff on the web pages, but I am really foggy about plugins and compatibility issues and it doesn't mention the stuff that would make feel reassured. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 17:14:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAB816A416 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D802643D4C for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:14:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin05-en2 [10.13.10.150]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9JHAsjx024871; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (a17-214-13-96.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9JHAqOK017947; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:10:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:10:51 -0700 To: ke han X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Cc: freebsd-questions Questions list Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.1 max sockets X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:14:28 -0000 On Oct 19, 2006, at 8:24 AM, ke han wrote: > So my desire is two things: > 1 - good event handling for knowing which sockets have new data. I > assume kqueue is the way to go here? kqueue would be a fine choice, otherwise the typical mechanism involves using select(). > 2 - I need to know what my limits are on max number of sockets. If > my system is a 64-bit install on a server with 8GB RAM, I need to > know how many sockets I can handle. Also, what options do I have > to tune this? socket buffer size? Any kernel parameters needed to > tune? See the sysctl kern.ipc.maxsockets. You can change this and related settings by adjusting loader.conf (see /boot/defaults/loader.conf and "man tuning" about "LOADER TUNABLES")... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 17:17:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40A716A4EA for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:17:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D81343D64 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:17:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917B1388C35 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:16:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:13:49 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <519690B81AD691CBA3116DD1@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========B087A6D8E8FE363B5BD7==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:17:34 -0000 --==========B087A6D8E8FE363B5BD7========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:21:39 +0530 Subhro=20 wrote: > Hello Folks, > > I would like to know which is the latest version of Xorg present in > the ports tree. The one I can find in 6.9. However the latest version > present on the Xorg homepage is 7.1 which was release on May 22, 2006. > Has it been ported to the ports tree yet? If not when can it be > expected to be done. > This has been asked and answered about a zillion times. Search the=20 archives. The short answer is, no, Xorg 7.x has not been ported. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========B087A6D8E8FE363B5BD7==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 17:31:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CA316A4C2 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:31:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bt@thomsen-it-solutions.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F8A43D86 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:31:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bt@thomsen-it-solutions.de) Received: from [84.141.15.165] (helo=pc255b) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwpI-1GabjK1QgX-0004NV; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:30:54 +0200 From: "Bjoern Thomsen" To: Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:30:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Thread-Index: AcbwiHB7b9E3c1rTRd6YJCSj/6ceZQDG8bYQ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0MKwpI-1GabjK1QgX-0004NV@mrelayeu.kundenserver.de> X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2400c13f127edc2dd2df40523097c5ee Subject: RE: Xorg -configure results a black screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:31:39 -0000 Hi again, I am able to start Xorg, but kde does not start. It seems it still has problems with my display. The most important failure messages that showed up when trying to start = kde are : Xsetroot: unable to open display '' Xset: unable to open display '' Ksplash: cannot connect to X Server Kdeinit : Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set. I also copied my modified xorg.conf.new with "HorizSync" and = "VertRefresh" settings from the /root/ to the folder /etc/X11/ but it seems it cannot find the file ??!=20 What else can I do to get KDE running. BTW : When I run "startx" first and then fire up "startkde" from the = konsole in X , then KDE starts... I am new to Unix at all. I have no clue to search for a hint :-) Someone able to help me get KDE running from the Shell ?? Bjoern -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: illoai@gmail.com [mailto:illoai@gmail.com]=20 Gesendet: Sonntag, 15. Oktober 2006 20:34 An: Bjoern Thomsen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Betreff: Re: Xorg -configure results a black screen On 10/14/06, Bjoern Thomsen wrote: > I am new to FreeBSD. I am trying to configure Xorg but when I fire up = the > command > > "Xorg -configure" I get back a black screen. When I try to start X it = is > telling me a failure message: > > "Can't open display" . I have always had to edit the resulting ~/xorg.conf.new to add the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines to match my monitor, given that Xorg seems to not detect my primitive hardware perfectly. You may want to look up your own monitor timings, as these will likely not work. Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" HorizSync 31-92 VertRefresh 55-160 EndSection --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 17:38:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3924B16A51B for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@mkproductions.org) Received: from server1.tntpowerhost.com (server1.tntpowerhost.com [208.100.3.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C96843E25 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:34:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@mkproductions.org) Received: from ppp-70-245-187-233.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net ([70.245.187.233] helo=localhost) by server1.tntpowerhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Gabmv-0003PH-M3; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:34:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:34:31 -0500 From: Mark Kane To: Jerry McAllister Message-ID: <20061019123431.67f44b59@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20061019170850.GA60680@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <7cc8007f0610190832u5b5f637dv756ca91d5f99d770@mail.gmail.com> <20061019170850.GA60680@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.5cvs13 (GTK+ 2.8.20; x86_64-unknown-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.tntpowerhost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - mkproductions.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Dimiter Ivanov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash player 9 Beta is Live X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:38:02 -0000 On Thu, Oct 19, 2006, at 13:08:50 -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 06:32:14PM +0300, Dimiter Ivanov wrote: > > > http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/10/beta_is_live.html > > > > I have downloaded the stand alone player and it works out of the > > box. Anyone having expirience with the browser plugin ? > > > > I'm using 6.1 Release and KDE 3.5.4 > > OK. That sounds promising. > > But, is this limited to KDE or how about plain Firefox running > on plain ole FreeBSD 6.1 with a fairly plain Windows manager? > Does it requite the Lunix compatibility stuff? Yes, the plugin would need the Linux compatibility and a Linux binary browser (such as linux-firefox or linux-opera). I tried the standalone version yesterday on FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE [amd64] and I couldn't get the standalone version to play anything (it would just not do anything when opening files -- just sits at the white background of the window). I did try the Linux browser plugin along with linux-opera and it worked somewhat. It played the visual elements of Flash OK, however there is no sound since they're using ALSA for the sound in version 9. I also noticed that after playing Flash content, the area where the content was would turn a solid grey color and it seemed to lock the browser up a bit. If I closed out of that tab it seemed to be OK. Normally I have Flash disabled for all but a couple sites since it uses up tons of RAM and really slows down the browser after use (version 7 at least), so I unloaded 9 and went back to 7 for now where sound at least works. Hopefully Adobe will add in alternate sound support methods so other platforms besides Linux can have sound like in version 7, and of course I hope they release a native FreeBSD binary sometime too so we can use native browsers. -Mark -- Internet Radio: Party107 (Trance/Electronic) - http://www.party107.com Rock 101.9 The Edge (Rock) - http://www.rock1019.net IRC: MIXXnet IRC Network - irc.mixxnet.net (Nick: MIXX941) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 17:59:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45BE16A403 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:59:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4701B43DB1 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:57:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gac9R-0004A9-3e; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:57:53 +0100 Received: from [82.41.32.39] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gac9P-0002Z8-Gr; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:57:51 +0100 Message-ID: <4537BC9F.8030806@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:57:51 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin McCormick References: <200610191649.k9JGmxOl017063@dc.cis.okstate.edu> In-Reply-To: <200610191649.k9JGmxOl017063@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why csh on Root? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:59:28 -0000 Martin McCormick wrote: > One thing I was trying to accomplish is to have a bell in >the root prompt. In the .cshrc file is a string > >set prompt="\007\!# " > > I have also tried replacing the \007 with the actual >Control-G and even a \a. All produce an attempt to render a bell >but what is sent to the remote terminal is ^G1# >as in the actual ASCII characters ^ and G. > >I am not sure what to do to correct this problem as I do not get >it in bash. A \a or \007 is sent literally. > > The env output for root on this system shows no environmental >variables that should inhibit the beep so I am kind of stumped. > > set prompt="hello%{^G%}there " where ^G is a single control char, not two chars. man tcsh, look for the section on shell variables and then scan down to prompt. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 17:59:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A4416A4DD for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:59:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0ABD43DA2 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:58:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GacA2-000PNv-54 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:58:30 +0200 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:58:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Zbigniew Szalbot X-X-Sender: zbyszek@192.168.11.51 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061019195557.M97577@192.168.11.51> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: having more than one process write to one log X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:59:36 -0000 Hello, I will appreciate your advice. Is it possible and *safe* to allow two different processes (dovecot and exim) to write to one log? Better not do it? I would like to have both data in one log but... don't want to cause problems. I don't think Windows would allow it. How about FBSD? Thank you! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 18:13:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4040116A47B for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:13:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from smtp110.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp110.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F34643E4A for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:11:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: (qmail 57163 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2006 18:11:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.mikestammer.com) (mikestammer@sbcglobal.net@70.131.101.46 with login) by smtp110.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2006 18:11:24 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61ADF7B for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:11:24 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from mail.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2mBWPQk1NUpJ for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:11:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E136F75 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:11:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4537BFC9.4000909@mikestammer.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:11:21 -0500 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20061019195557.M97577@192.168.11.51> In-Reply-To: <20061019195557.M97577@192.168.11.51> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: having more than one process write to one log X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:13:19 -0000 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hello, > > I will appreciate your advice. Is it possible and *safe* to allow two > different processes (dovecot and exim) to write to one log? Better not > do it? I would like to have both data in one log but... don't want to > cause problems. I don't think Windows would allow it. How about FBSD? > isnt that the default? right now i see postfix, dovecot, amavisd, etc all log to /var/log/maillog Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 18:14:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D10016A47C for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from bravo.pjkh.com (bravo.pjkh.com [72.36.232.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7DC43D69 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:13:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from bravo.pjkh.com (bravo.pjkh.com [72.36.232.219]) by bravo.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3F113CD68; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:21:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bravo.pjkh.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E9DED13CD57; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:21:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bravo.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D5913C80B; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:21:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:21:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Philip Hallstrom To: Zbigniew Szalbot In-Reply-To: <20061019195557.M97577@192.168.11.51> Message-ID: <20061019131953.M64208@bravo.pjkh.com> References: <20061019195557.M97577@192.168.11.51> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: having more than one process write to one log X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:14:32 -0000 > I will appreciate your advice. Is it possible and *safe* to allow two > different processes (dovecot and exim) to write to one log? Better not do it? > I would like to have both data in one log but... don't want to cause > problems. I don't think Windows would allow it. How about FBSD? fopen() seems to say it's okay... ``a'' Open for writing. The file is created if it does not exist. The stream is positioned at the end of the file. Subsequent writes to the file will always end up at the then current end of file, irrespective of any intervening fseek(3) or similar. Another idea is to use syslog.... -philip From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 18:17:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C9816A412 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B0543D5E for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:17:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin05-en2 [10.13.10.150]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout11/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9JIHD7P020925; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (a17-214-13-96.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9JIHCRO015333; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:17:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20061019195557.M97577@192.168.11.51> References: <20061019195557.M97577@192.168.11.51> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <70827E8F-3DFE-461A-BA05-2AB48CEF5961@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:17:11 -0700 To: Zbigniew Szalbot X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: having more than one process write to one log X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:17:25 -0000 On Oct 19, 2006, at 10:58 AM, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > I will appreciate your advice. Is it possible and *safe* to allow > two different processes (dovecot and exim) to write to one log? > Better not do it? I would like to have both data in one log but... > don't want to cause problems. I don't think Windows would allow it. > How about FBSD? Those things normally use syslog to write via the LOG_MAIL facility to /var/log/maillog. Syslog-based logging will handle logging from multiple programs to just one logfile just fine. Otherwise, you are advised to look into fsync() and flock(). Those syscalls do not necessarily work on remote filesystems, however... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 18:20:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8D016A4A7 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:20:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC2143D68 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:20:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:20:31 -0400 id 00056416.4537C1EF.00005E11 Received: from Internal Mail-Server (206.210.89.202) by mx01 (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 19 Oct 2006 14:15:20 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:20:30 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Zbigniew Szalbot Message-Id: <20061019142030.9d4b6897.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <20061019195557.M97577@192.168.11.51> References: <20061019195557.M97577@192.168.11.51> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.9 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: having more than one process write to one log X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:20:35 -0000 In response to Zbigniew Szalbot : > Hello, > > I will appreciate your advice. Is it possible and *safe* to allow two > different processes (dovecot and exim) to write to one log? Better not do > it? I would like to have both data in one log but... don't want to cause > problems. I don't think Windows would allow it. How about FBSD? That's what syslogd is for. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. **************************************************************** IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to an intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. 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The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. **************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 18:59:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDF816A412 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA7D43D55 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:57:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9JIucqI020586 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:56:42 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9JIvBbH068284; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:57:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9JIvBBP068283; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:57:11 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:57:11 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Martin McCormick Message-ID: <20061019185710.GA57678@gothmog.pc> References: <200610191649.k9JGmxOl017063@dc.cis.okstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200610191649.k9JGmxOl017063@dc.cis.okstate.edu> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.571, required 5, AWL -0.17, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why csh on Root? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:59:09 -0000 On 2006-10-19 11:48, Martin McCormick wrote: > RW writes: > > There is an alternative uid 0 user called toor which you can use if you > > want > > to use bash as root. OTOH hand there is a school of thought that you > > shouldn't be too comfortable as root. > > My thanks to all. On all the systems in question, bash > ends up on the same partition as root, but the points are > well-taken. > > One thing I was trying to accomplish is to have a bell in > the root prompt. In the .cshrc file is a string > > set prompt="\007\!# " > > I have also tried replacing the \007 with the actual > Control-G and even a \a. All produce an attempt to render a bell > but what is sent to the remote terminal is ^G1# > as in the actual ASCII characters ^ and G. > > I am not sure what to do to correct this problem as I do not get > it in bash. A \a or \007 is sent literally. This is easy to do with tcsh: set prompt = '%{^G%}%n@%m:%/%# ' Note the %{ ... %} around the literal ^G character :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 19:20:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BDC16A412 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:20:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE91A43D45 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:20:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9JJJMI6066151; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:19:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id k9JJJLjt066150; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:19:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:19:21 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20061019191921.GB11212@thought.org> References: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> <20061018215708.GB93083@gothmog.pc> <20061019001443.GC3342@thought.org> <20061019002244.GA1877@gothmog.pc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061019002244.GA1877@gothmog.pc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:20:13 -0000 On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 03:22:44AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2006-10-18 17:14, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 12:57:08AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > On 2006-10-18 14:12, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > This would work [or ought to!]; right now, all my mail echange > > entries are equi-valued at 50. But this seems like a back door > > way of dealing with sendmail. I'm the first to admit that it's a > > less tha optimal suite, obscure beyond words, (etc). But I'd > > like to understand how to resolve this problem with senmail.... > > Sendmail (or any other MTA, for that matter) should really *trust* the > DNS admin to properly configure MX records. > > There's nothing wrong with relying on MX records which, for example, > point to: > > thought.org. IN MX 10 mx1.thought.org. > thought.org. IN MX 20 mx2.thought.org. > > If I understood what you are trying to do, then a nice set of MX > priorities *does* what you want. Why would you want to mess with > mailertables? :) > I *really* don't hate myself, am not a masovhist, honest! But after ~14 years, it's time to understand sendmail. That's all. ---I mean without investing--(wasting)-- months tying to work thru all of ERic Allman's hack-arounds. :-) gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 19:39:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EABF16A583 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE5E43D67 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:38:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9JJcu4q093600; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:38:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id k9JJct9Q093507; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:38:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:38:54 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20061019193854.GC11212@thought.org> References: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> <20061018215708.GB93083@gothmog.pc> <20061019001443.GC3342@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:39:14 -0000 On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 05:22:44PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Oct 18, 2006, at 5:14 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > This would work [or ought to!]; right now, all my mail e[x]change > > entries are equi-valued at 50. But this seems like a back door > > way of dealing with sendmail. I'm the first to admit that it's a > > less tha[n] optimal suite, obscure beyond words, (etc). But I'd > > like to understand how to resolve this problem with sen[d]mail.... > > You can override MX prioritization by using a mailertable. > > But you will need to list IP addresses in square brackets to disable > MX lookups and force other MX hosts to relay mail to where-ever you > want. Therefore, the simple answer is to make sure that the final > destination for email to your domain is listed as the highest- > priority MX record (ie, lowest numeric MX value). > > And you will either need to masquarade for your domain, or you will > need to list all of the hostnames for which email is being addressed > to in class w (aka /etc/mail/local-host-names) on the mailserver > which performs local delivery.... Solunds like a win.. hopefully. Can you sent me the mailtable that I might use to have "kline@thought.org" goto zen.thought.org and zivic@thought.org be forwarded to ns1.thought.org, and grzegorz@thought.org be sent to ethos.thought.org? I see an example as the equivalent of 10K words. Is there ay way of testing this after I have set up my table entries? In other words, how do I re-initialize things without having to (ugh) *reboot*. thanks much, gary > > -- > -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 20:08:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2F216A415 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:08:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agus.262@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24ED343D49 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:08:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from agus.262@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so729851wxc for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:08:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=mMXFhQ2y/B+dJVRvM82ZaomNaBiqDejcoiIE1NnBC0nM1w/GZErUglz0HkkmYIsPywmOZzXGSg7bgOUyGV2iYNKBCNDrzPl1Epnn4CoCA0sqd6lgpH8KEK8CBzL3GonhjmTbibSI6+EB18lRe3SHEsj7cpuTEN37VsjUnymqB+I= Received: by 10.90.94.2 with SMTP id r2mr523189agb; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.70.7 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:08:07 -0300 From: Agus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Which FreeBSD version, release shoult i use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:08:10 -0000 Hi to all, i am new to freebsd and was wondering which RELEASE or version should i put in a Production Server to offer free shell access an free web pages hosting. I downloaded RELEASE5.5 and the latest one 6.1. I tried to find s STABLE release but couldnt find one.... I apreciate any help.... thanx a lor for your time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 20:10:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24F616A494 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:10:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from smtp112.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp112.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED5C543D46 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:10:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: (qmail 10628 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2006 20:10:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.mikestammer.com) (mikestammer@sbcglobal.net@70.131.101.46 with login) by smtp112.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2006 20:10:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5B581 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:10:32 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from mail.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zylsb5StGUCI for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:10:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DEC275 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:10:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4537DBB4.4010702@mikestammer.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:10:28 -0500 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD version, release shoult i use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:10:34 -0000 Agus wrote: > Hi to all, i am new to freebsd and was wondering which RELEASE or version > should i put in a Production Server to offer free shell access an free web > pages hosting. > > I downloaded RELEASE5.5 and the latest one 6.1. > I tried to find s STABLE release but couldnt find one.... > > I apreciate any help.... > > thanx a lor for your time. start with 6.1 and play with STABLE (which is 6.2 beta currently I believe) on another machine. that or install 6.1 then cvs to 6.2 if you like. i wouldnt bother with the 5.x releases. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 20:16:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93F016A403 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:16:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D04D43D80 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:16:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin05-en2 [10.13.10.150]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout14/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9JKGacw018219; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (a17-214-13-96.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9JKGYPf029367; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:16:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20061019193854.GC11212@thought.org> References: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> <20061018215708.GB93083@gothmog.pc> <20061019001443.GC3342@thought.org> <20061019193854.GC11212@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5E10959B-FA19-41C4-9268-1183CCF616F1@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:16:33 -0700 To: Gary Kline X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:16:41 -0000 On Oct 19, 2006, at 12:38 PM, Gary Kline wrote: >> You can override MX prioritization by using a mailertable. >> >> But you will need to list IP addresses in square brackets to disable >> MX lookups and force other MX hosts to relay mail to where-ever you >> want. Therefore, the simple answer is to make sure that the final >> destination for email to your domain is listed as the highest- >> priority MX record (ie, lowest numeric MX value). >> >> And you will either need to masquarade for your domain, or you will >> need to list all of the hostnames for which email is being addressed >> to in class w (aka /etc/mail/local-host-names) on the mailserver >> which performs local delivery.... > > Solunds like a win.. hopefully. Can you sent me the mailtable > that I might use to have "kline@thought.org" goto zen.thought.org > and zivic@thought.org be forwarded to ns1.thought.org, and > grzegorz@thought.org be sent to ethos.thought.org? Nope. What you've asked for now is different than what you originally asked for; if you don't want email for all users @thought.org to be delivered locally on one machine, that's a different problem, and it cannot be solved with a mailertable alone. If it is only a few users, consider setting up .forward files. Otherwise, you will have to set up a virtusertable instead, by adding: FEATURE(`virtusertable')dnl VIRTUSER_DOMAIN(`thought.org')dnl ...in your sendmail.mc, and then create /etc/mail/virtusertable with something like: kline@thought.org kline@zen.thought.org zivic@thought.org zivic@ns1.thought.org grzegorz@thought.org grzegorz@ethos.thought.org ...and do a "make maps" in /etc/mail, or run: /usr/sbin/makemap hash /etc/mail/virtusertable.db < /etc/mail/ virtusertable Note that splitting delivery within a domain like this is generally undesirable compared with setting up a central mailhost and using IMAP to read the mail from the clients, rather than trying to deliver mail to individual client machines. Because if you want to deliver to these individual client machines, you need to set up mail on all of them, and make sure your DNS entries are right, preferably by creating MX records for each new mailserver, etc... > Is there ay way of testing this after I have set up my table > entries? In other words, how do I re-initialize things without > having to (ugh) *reboot*. Of course you can restart sendmail without having to reboot... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 20:16:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4DA16A47E for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@ml.erje.net) Received: from smtpout-1.iphouse.net (smtpout-1.iphouse.net [216.250.188.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5363B43D45 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:16:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@ml.erje.net) Received: from smtpout-1.iphouse.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by outbound-clamsmtpd.iphouse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9442AC4F2 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:16:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ziemel.erje.net (ismet.erje.net [213.84.32.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpout-1.iphouse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9854F2AC4EF for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:16:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ismet.erje.net (ismet.erje.net [IPv6:2001:888:1f33::8e45:7e]) by ziemel.erje.net (PostFix 2.3.3) with ESMTP id 5EF94128878 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:15:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: by ismet.erje.net (PostFix 2.3.3, from userid 3003) id D95A616C5DD; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:15:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:12:48 +0200 From: Robert Joosten To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061019201248.GC695@iphouse.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-ICQ: 13643672 X-geek-code-v3.1: G!>CS@O dx>--@ s: a31(32) C+++ UBL++++$ P++ L-@+++$ !E W(+) N+++(*) o-- K- w- O- M- V- PS+@ PE- Y+ PGP++ t- 5- X- R* !tv b++@ DI++ D G-- e@ h*(+) r>+@ z+c X-FreeBSD: 026746 X-Mobile/GSM/cell: +3162526777 X-msn: BlixKater X-No-rights-can-be-derived: Indeed X-Face: 0[uRd; X4=_; G; $DL6Wm=\]R/TWu1f+t|,Li1Q-maBcUyCJsAw(Nmj-(aDA!Kk#hLr#njX9T@U-rQm?Z53"_]SBYab3-NCkCN/{1-#0T4U1Ry"TPY~dtpzfxs$9"BrXKPylt/#5QQb/y+|LF}; X-bored-?-crack-this: b938b801a0bfbd5ca4825715039e7574e73af36376314c7c0022cb1d204f76b3b938b801a0bfbd5ca4825715039e7574fd3ba6fa132c34aff2476c18fe9286682cd6ee2c70b0bde53fbe6cac3c8b8bb1e73af36376314c7c0022cb1d204f76b3fe13119fb084fe8bbf5fe3ab7cc89b3bf5302386464f953ed581edac03556e5572cfd272ace172fa35026445fbef9b0360b725f10c9c85c70d97880dfe8191b3b7269fa2508548e4032c455818f1e321e85dde330c34efb0e526ee3082e4353b12f54a96f64443246930da001cafda8b60b725f10c9c85c70d97880dfe8191b3557b444e04c3134f026cd0055caa1725e73af36376314c7c0022cb1d204f76b3fe13119fb084fe8bbf5fe3ab7cc89b3bf4d5d0c0671be202bc241807c243e80b User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-ziemel.erje.net-MailScanner: Ok, found to be clean X-Spam-Status: No X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD version, release shoult i use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:16:50 -0000 Hi, > I tried to find s STABLE release but couldnt find one.... A stable ? Read http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html . I would opt for 6. Hth. Regards, Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 20:20:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3797616A47C for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEF843D49 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:20:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GaeNB-0000D7-IN; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:20:13 +0200 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:20:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Zbigniew Szalbot X-X-Sender: zbyszek@192.168.11.51 To: Eric In-Reply-To: <4537BFC9.4000909@mikestammer.com> Message-ID: <20061019221530.N794@192.168.11.51> References: <20061019195557.M97577@192.168.11.51> <4537BFC9.4000909@mikestammer.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: having more than one process write to one log X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:20:18 -0000 Hi there, On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, Eric wrote: >> I will appreciate your advice. Is it possible and *safe* to allow two >> different processes (dovecot and exim) to write to one log? Better not do >> it? I would like to have both data in one log but... don't want to cause >> problems. I don't think Windows would allow it. How about FBSD? > > isnt that the default? right now i see postfix, dovecot, amavisd, etc all log > to /var/log/maillog With the exception that my exim writes to /var/log/exim/mainlog which I am ok with, logs are rotated, etc. My question was whether it is ok for dovecot to join the party. Still new to FBSD and that's why I am not sure if the way I would like to set it up is OK. If it is not, then I have no problem keeping logs separate. I could direct exim's logging to /var/log/maillog (this I can do :) but then I wonder if I didn't have to edit the global crontab to take care of logs being rotated, etc.? Thanks to all who have responded! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 20:21:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C8E16A412 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikes@signull.com) Received: from itchy.ntisys.com (itchy.ntisys.com [64.3.167.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3901243D5A for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:21:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikes@signull.com) Received: from [192.168.32.4] (ptoastman.ntisys.com [64.3.167.251]) by itchy.ntisys.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id k9JKL2422926 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:21:02 -0400 Message-ID: <45392E74.9000003@signull.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:15:48 -0400 From: Mike Spenard User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060822) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: cyrus-sasl & sendmail compile error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:21:20 -0000 Following this doc on sendmail-auth... http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html I go to recompile sendmail after # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail # make cleandir # make obj # make # make install and I get... cc: /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsmutil/libsmutil.a: No such file or directory cc: /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsm/libsm.a: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail. /etc/make.conf is as the document specifies.. SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include/sasl1 -DSASL SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl -- Mike Spenard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 20:26:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1AC16A4AB for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:26:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wc_fbsd@xxiii.com) Received: from cartman.xxiii.com (cartman.xxiii.com [208.62.177.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25F043D67 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:26:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wc_fbsd@xxiii.com) Received: from [192.168.0.218] (lan23.xxiii.com [208.62.177.50]) by cartman.xxiii.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9JKQdQN012081 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:26:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wc_fbsd@xxiii.com) Message-ID: <4537DF7E.8070606@xxiii.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:26:38 -0400 From: Wayne User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Recommended Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:26:42 -0000 Is there a list of "recommended" hardware for FreeBSD (i386 in my case)? I know there is a "Hardware Notes" section in the release notes, that's not what I'm asking! If I was going to build or spec' a system, what subset of the supported hardware is best? I've heard cons, like manufacturer's apathy or negativity towards FreeBSD. I guess Pros would include stable, actively developed drivers, consistency and long term availability of products (unlike manufacturers who release 3 totally different boards in a year with the same model number!), etc... Thanks for your input, -WC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 20:27:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7238D16A403 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:27:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB83B43D62 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:27:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9JKQVIf021838; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:26:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id k9JKQ3TK021252; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:26:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:26:03 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Jan Grant Message-ID: <20061019202603.GD11212@thought.org> References: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> <20061018215708.GB93083@gothmog.pc> <20061019001443.GC3342@thought.org> <20061019124436.X42237@tribble.ilrt.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061019124436.X42237@tribble.ilrt.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:27:24 -0000 On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 12:54:02PM +0100, Jan Grant wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Gary Kline wrote: > > I would have suggested the DNS approach except that when I looked, > tao.thought.org didn't exist in your DNS (as an A record) and since ns1 > looked like a dialup account, I assumed you're using NAT. thought.org has a slow IDSL link to my ISP, not a dialup. I read, then bot DNS AND BIND; here is what has worked since an early bind9. ; Machines for the thought.org domain ; ;name class type IP ; localhost IN A 127.0.0.1 ; ; Next I list my main host, which is my domain ; and mail, and web servers. ; ns1.thought.org. IN A 216.231.43.140 sage.thought.org. IN A 216.231.43.140 > > Your mailertable entry on ns1 should probably just read > > thought.org relay:tao.thought.org > or maybe > thought.org smtp:tao.thought.org Which is better? and why? Or are they equiv? > > and tao.thought.org should have "thought.org" in it's w class: that is, > sendmail.cw or local-whatever-the-file-is-called. I did have a "local-host-names", but then simply dropped the "w" Class into sendmail.cf. I do have "Cw thought.org" in the config file. I only have 4 or 5 Unix servers, (4 right now since one finally died:), so I simplified. Besides, I wasn't sure if the "local-host-names" required just the short hostname or the FQDN. > > You might need "makemap" to recreate the database from your plain file. Yes. > > I suspect that you have an alias set up on ns1 that you're fiddling > with. In order to get it to stick, you probably need to run > "newaliases". Since that's run on reboot if required, that'd explain > your reboot-to-reconfigure behaviour. I did have a commented-out kline -> kline@tao.thought.org" in /etc/mail/aliases. I uncommented it yesterday, 18oct, I *did* run newaliases; when things STILL seemed to be misbehaving, I said something like "Bleep it!" and rebooted. # ## uncommented : 18oct06. # kline: kline@tao.thought.org So I'm really not sure WHAT got mail to kline@thought.org going back to my original home machine, tao. > > Cheers, > jan > > PS. If sendmail config is such an arcane art (and it is, unless you do > it regularly) you might find there's mileage in installing an > alternative MTA. Well, "ethos" is Ubuntu and comes with postfix. Seems seriously better; but since mail is so utterly critical, I'm not touching anything until some wise mail guru is right here, holding my hand and sharing a jug of Jack Daniels!! gary > > -- > jan grant, ISYS, University of Bristol. http://www.bris.ac.uk/ > Tel +44 (0)117 3317661 http://ioctl.org/jan/ > Goth isn't dead, it's just lying very still and sucking its cheeks in. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 20:30:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89C416A40F for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:30:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582FA43D67 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:30:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k9JKU7U6051880 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:30:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200610192030.k9JKU7U6051880@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <51878.1161289807.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:30:07 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Why csh on Root? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:30:25 -0000 Alex Zbyslaw writes: > set prompt="hello%{^G%}there " > > where ^G is a single control char, not two chars. Thanks. It works perfectly. I am reading the man for tcsh again to attempt to figure out what I missed the first time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 20:32:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCE516A47B for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:32:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE76043D69 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:32:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9JKTa8Q061624; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:29:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9JKTaXR061623; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:29:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:29:36 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Agus Message-ID: <20061019202936.GA61251@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD version, release shoult i use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:32:26 -0000 On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 05:08:07PM -0300, Agus wrote: > Hi to all, i am new to freebsd and was wondering which RELEASE or version > should i put in a Production Server to offer free shell access an free web > pages hosting. > > I downloaded RELEASE5.5 and the latest one 6.1. > I tried to find s STABLE release but couldnt find one.... Why do you want a 'STABLE'? You want a RELEASE version. Then, after you have installed it, do a CVSUP to RELENG_6_1 or maybe just RELENG_6 and it will get you the latest stuff you need. Make sure you cvsup your ports at the same time too. ////jerry > > I apreciate any help.... > > thanx a lor for your time. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 20:35:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FB516A47E for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:35:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from usleepless@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA8C43D83 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:35:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from usleepless@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so494061uge for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:35:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Iy5A6ztAocBiAaSPROeCDEnqMzYV1AjXHkag5t3HoJhXXSkO+z70JYvSXxa/SyJd3KUB4eYcuA0Adq1AxhmnNMBuKZE/2Tu44+qnUGsVUmzal/nepahK+RbO0ui+R2ZdsW/fddfNiNvq/3tgvx5ntZv1YJGPzmWCfwn70dzhOJ4= Received: by 10.78.203.13 with SMTP id a13mr578249hug; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.124.8 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:29:43 +0200 From: usleepless@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: if_em.c with fast intr-handler / taskqueues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:35:59 -0000 Hi, where can i read a copy of the if_em.c with the fast int-handler + taskqueues? IIRC it was written by scott long. but if i view the CVS log for the file, these changes were pulled. i would like to read this code. regards, usleep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 20:41:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D2F16A403 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFD043D6B for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:41:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9JKcvx1061935; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:38:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9JKcvWt061934; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:38:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:38:57 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Wayne Message-ID: <20061019203857.GB61251@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4537DF7E.8070606@xxiii.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4537DF7E.8070606@xxiii.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Recommended Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:41:33 -0000 On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 04:26:38PM -0400, Wayne wrote: > Is there a list of "recommended" hardware for FreeBSD (i386 in my case)? > > I know there is a "Hardware Notes" section in the release notes, that's > not what I'm asking! > > If I was going to build or spec' a system, what subset of the supported > hardware is best? I've heard cons, like manufacturer's apathy or > negativity towards FreeBSD. I guess Pros would include stable, actively > developed drivers, consistency and long term availability of products > (unlike manufacturers who release 3 totally different boards in a year > with the same model number!), etc... Really any machine in the i386 or am64 line that is big enough and fast enough to handle your needs should do the trick. Then, just avoid the accessories that are not supported. Most of the parts you'd really want to get are supported anyway. There is so much out there that you really have to start with an idea of what machine you want and just check back to make sure the parts are supported. Unless you want something like a FreeBSD Systems box that is built specifically for FreeBSD: http://www.freebsdsystems.com/ Or an Iron Systems server: http://www.ironsystems.com/index.asp Actually, nowdays Even Dell and HP [reluctantly] admit FreeBSD exists and will work on their systems. Almost all of the machines I have had bought for me to work on here have been one of those two. So, don't worry overly much. Just get something good and not a fly-by-night piece of junk and it will probably be fine - just check the extra cards like NICs, etc against the compatibility. Have fun, ////jerry > > Thanks for your input, > > -WC > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 16:24:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4DF16A407 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Leidecker@stud.uni-heidelberg.de) Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2ED43D5F for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:24:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Leidecker@stud.uni-heidelberg.de) Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.235]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k9JGO2e0008518 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:24:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from wwwmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (wwwmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.145]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA7971026 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:24:00 +0200 From: Leidecker@stud.uni-heidelberg.de Received: from wwwmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wwwmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9JGNxmA002288 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:23:59 +0200 Received: (from apache@localhost) by wwwmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k9JGNxcD002287 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:23:59 +0200 Received: from 194.193.169.242 ([194.193.169.242]) by wwwmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:23:59 +0200 Message-ID: <20061019182359.2jje9s9uok844k8w@wwwmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:23:59 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:04:49 +0000 Subject: chunk size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:24:08 -0000 Hi there, I ran into trouble with memory allocation in freebsd. In Linux, informations on heap chunks are stored with the actual data. That's why a chunks' size is four bytes before the raw data. Let's say, there is memory allocated at address 0x0804b000. In Linux, that would return me the number allocated bytes: (gdb) x/x 0x0804b000-4 FreeBSD uses another malloc alternative where the data and the informations are splitted into two lists. The informations on sizes are stored in a page direcory list. Entries of that list point to their corresponding page with the data. My question is now, regarding on the usage of gdb: How can I find out, of what size a chunk is? Or, where do I find the page direcory list? regards, Nico From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 21:44:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0480516A412 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E8F43D45 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:44:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.145] (helo=anti-virus03-08) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GafgS-0001Kw-TH; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:44:12 +0100 Received: from [82.41.32.39] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GafgR-0002x1-0l; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:44:11 +0100 Message-ID: <4537F1AA.4030601@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:44:10 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wayne References: <4537DF7E.8070606@xxiii.com> In-Reply-To: <4537DF7E.8070606@xxiii.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Recommended Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:44:16 -0000 Wayne wrote: > If I was going to build or spec' a system, what subset of the > supported hardware is best? I've heard cons, like manufacturer's > apathy or negativity towards FreeBSD. I guess Pros would include > stable, actively developed drivers, consistency and long term > availability of products (unlike manufacturers who release 3 totally > different boards in a year with the same model number!), etc... Pick something you think you like the look of and type in all the various critical components as searches to Google, along with freebsd, or just start by searching the mailing lists You'll discover some reasonable absolutes like sil3112 controllers are rubbish, but otherwise you'll get a variety of opinions. There are no absolutes as everything depends to some extent on the bottom line - how much are you prepared to pay? Also worth checking out sites like tomshardware.com for mainboard reviews etc (if you can face the adverts) and just general googles - usually the detritus rises to the top :-( That strategy will work for building/buying yourself one or two machines. If you're buying a shedload for a machine room somewhere then pick some manufactures like Dell, HP etc, pick the model numbers that interest you and type those in to Google along with freebsd. Those have worked for me so far, and yes, it is labour intensive. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 21:47:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F4A16A403 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:47:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9594D43D49 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:47:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9JLkowq029363 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:46:52 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9JLlRMH001703; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:47:27 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9JLlP5a001702; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:47:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:47:25 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20061019214725.GA1683@gothmog.pc> References: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> <20061018215708.GB93083@gothmog.pc> <20061019001443.GC3342@thought.org> <20061019193854.GC11212@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061019193854.GC11212@thought.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.57, required 5, AWL -0.17, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:47:08 -0000 On 2006-10-19 12:38, Gary Kline wrote: >On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 05:22:44PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: >> You can override MX prioritization by using a mailertable. >> >> But you will need to list IP addresses in square brackets to disable >> MX lookups and force other MX hosts to relay mail to where-ever you >> want. Therefore, the simple answer is to make sure that the final >> destination for email to your domain is listed as the highest- >> priority MX record (ie, lowest numeric MX value). >> >> And you will either need to masquarade for your domain, or you will >> need to list all of the hostnames for which email is being addressed >> to in class w (aka /etc/mail/local-host-names) on the mailserver >> which performs local delivery.... > > Solunds like a win.. hopefully. Can you sent me the mailtable > that I might use to have "kline@thought.org" goto zen.thought.org > and zivic@thought.org be forwarded to ns1.thought.org, and > grzegorz@thought.org be sent to ethos.thought.org? I see an > example as the equivalent of 10K words. I'll let Chuck write what he had in mind :) > > Is there ay way of testing this after I have set up my table > entries? In other words, how do I re-initialize things without > having to (ugh) *reboot*. If you modify `mailertable' in `/etc/mail', you should be able to run: # cd /etc/mail # make mailertable.db to update it. A reboot is not necessary for Sendmail changes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 21:53:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5F116A412 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:53:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2D843D5D for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:53:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9JLqdMG029520 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:52:44 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9JLrFCL001742; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:53:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9JLrFbk001741; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:53:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:53:15 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Martin McCormick Message-ID: <20061019215315.GB1683@gothmog.pc> References: <200610192030.k9JKU7U6051880@dc.cis.okstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200610192030.k9JKU7U6051880@dc.cis.okstate.edu> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.57, required 5, AWL -0.17, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why csh on Root? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:53:04 -0000 On 2006-10-19 15:30, Martin McCormick wrote: > Alex Zbyslaw writes: > > set prompt="hello%{^G%}there " > > > > where ^G is a single control char, not two chars. > > Thanks. It works perfectly. I am reading the man for > tcsh again to attempt to figure out what I missed the first time. This part: %{string%} Includes string as a literal escape sequence. It should be used only to change terminal attributes and should not move the cursor location. This cannot be the last sequence in prompt. :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 22:02:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EA416A407 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA03343D46 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:02:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin05-en2 [10.13.10.150]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9JM2qRa022458; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (a17-214-13-96.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9JM2nUL006436; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:02:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20061019182359.2jje9s9uok844k8w@wwwmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <20061019182359.2jje9s9uok844k8w@wwwmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:02:49 -0700 To: Leidecker@stud.uni-heidelberg.de X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: chunk size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:02:53 -0000 On Oct 19, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Leidecker@stud.uni-heidelberg.de wrote: > FreeBSD uses another malloc alternative where the data and the > informations are splitted into two lists. The informations on sizes > are stored in a page direcory list. Entries of that list point to > their corresponding page with the data. My question is now, > regarding on the usage of gdb: How can I find out, of what size a > chunk is? Or, where do I find the page direcory list? The PHK malloc implementation in /usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c declares the page directory to be static: static struct pginfo **page_dir; ...either change this to make the symbol public, or perhaps add a _write in malloc_init() to output the location this structure: % cp /usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c /tmp/malloc.c Edit as you please, perhaps: --- /tmp/malloc.c~ Thu Oct 19 17:50:25 2006 +++ /tmp/malloc.c Thu Oct 19 17:50:30 2006 @@ -212,7 +212,7 @@ static u_long last_index; /* Pointer to page directory. Allocated "as if with" malloc */ -static struct pginfo **page_dir; +struct pginfo **page_dir; /* How many slots in the page directory */ static unsigned malloc_ninfo; % gcc -g -O -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/libc/include -shared -o /tmp/ malloc.so /tmp/malloc.c % LD_PRELOAD=/tmp/malloc.so gdb /tmp/test GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"... (gdb) b malloc Function "malloc" not defined. Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n]) y Breakpoint 1 (malloc) pending. (gdb) run Starting program: /tmp/test Breakpoint 2 at 0x280793f6: file /tmp/malloc.c, line 1152. Pending breakpoint "malloc" resolved Breakpoint 2, malloc (size=10) at /tmp/malloc.c:1152 1152 return (pubrealloc(NULL, size, " in malloc():")); (gdb) p page_dir $1 = (struct pginfo **) 0x0 (gdb) n 1153 } (gdb) p page_dir $2 = (struct pginfo **) 0x2815d000 However, before you go this route, perhaps you ought to consider what problem you are actually trying to solve by doing this. :-) You could always build and utilize the Linux malloc implementation, or jemalloc from -CURRENT, or even one of the debugging-friendly mallocs such as Doug Lea's in /usr/ports/devel/libdlmalloc instead... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 22:44:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533A516A412 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B661243D45 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:44:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 22317 invoked by uid 0); 19 Oct 2006 22:44:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (216.186.148.249) by smtp8.knology.net with SMTP; 19 Oct 2006 22:44:02 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id E9F412840A; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:44:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:44:01 -0500 From: David Kelly To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20061019224401.GA7216@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <4537DF7E.8070606@xxiii.com> <4537F1AA.4030601@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4537F1AA.4030601@dial.pipex.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Subject: Re: Recommended Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:44:04 -0000 On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 10:44:10PM +0100, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > > Those have worked for me so far, and yes, it is labour intensive. If it was easy to do right then there wouldn't be any good reason for your boss not to hire the kid behind the counter at MacWhopperDoodle with a $0.50/hr raise to give your job to him. I agree with others. Ask what you want the hardware to do. Make selections then research as to whether your selections work well with FreeBSD. Don't fill a computer room on guesswork and reading, buy samples and test. Of particualar areas to pay attention: Video controllers. Look for X.org support. Disk controllers. Hardware RAID and the latest SATA chipsets may be an issue. Network interfaces. Most seem to work. Motherboard & CPU. FreeBSD seems to run on most any x86 but if you expect on board power management and health status you'll have to do some research. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 22:50:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3308716A415 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:50:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38A043D5E for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:50:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813CA388E8D for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:50:00 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:46:57 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0MKwpI-1GabjK1QgX-0004NV@mrelayeu.kundenserver.de> References: <0MKwpI-1GabjK1QgX-0004NV@mrelayeu.kundenserver.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========CE09B94D69D45AC06AF1==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: Xorg -configure results a black screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:50:11 -0000 --==========CE09B94D69D45AC06AF1========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On Thursday, October 19, 2006 19:30:45 +0200 Bjoern Thomsen=20 wrote: > Hi again, > > I am able to start Xorg, but kde does not start. > It seems it still has problems with my display. > > The most important failure messages that showed up when trying to start > kde are : > > Xsetroot: unable to open display '' > Xset: unable to open display '' > Ksplash: cannot connect to X Server > Kdeinit : Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set. > > > I also copied my modified xorg.conf.new with "HorizSync" and = "VertRefresh" > settings from the /root/ to the folder /etc/X11/ but it seems it cannot > find the file ??! > > What else can I do to get KDE running. > Edit /etc/ttys like this: ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========CE09B94D69D45AC06AF1==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 23:09:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E8116A40F for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agus.262@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678F943D76 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:09:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from agus.262@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so774988wxc for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:09:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tbkOOM500KzaOg/+IXkxYkm7qzT8R3qLrYGhV+37v2d967RBtcvguNM6tr0gfAEQHU3ZuJ7MyKR+/B+EXHAzI3W4cmz/9EG7dcL0MYJ64CkYahEk+q56rX5ABzTukogwNzyxaft4UURQg7xeyDhki4IIOPwUHwnJ2VebvgFHJck= Received: by 10.90.78.1 with SMTP id a1mr632945agb; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:09:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.70.7 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:09:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:09:21 -0300 From: Agus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20061019202936.GA61251@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20061019202936.GA61251@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Fwd: Which FreeBSD version, release shoult i use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:09:31 -0000 Thanxs, i will start with 6.1 then... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jerry McAllister Date: 19-oct-2006 17:29 Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD version, release shoult i use? To: Agus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 05:08:07PM -0300, Agus wrote: > Hi to all, i am new to freebsd and was wondering which RELEASE or version > should i put in a Production Server to offer free shell access an free web > pages hosting. > > I downloaded RELEASE5.5 and the latest one 6.1. > I tried to find s STABLE release but couldnt find one.... Why do you want a 'STABLE'? You want a RELEASE version. Then, after you have installed it, do a CVSUP to RELENG_6_1 or maybe just RELENG_6 and it will get you the latest stuff you need. Make sure you cvsup your ports at the same time too. ////jerry > > I apreciate any help.... > > thanx a lor for your time. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 23:17:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95B016A412 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:17:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d1945@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65D2D43D45 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:17:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from d1945@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 44334 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2006 23:17:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=tmkIazTBOvMnEKb1nt6y8XlDDL5Au+LsUSxn+YXSkkneAZc00C+jkYyOZL+icy1Ta9pl04LbkJ+k2CeHSK6ryQDH22sArLhDO9M5/b0Tzn3fr5qYetJCgwmdUFMe16/Aa45NSnPcJ9JmGg5z6S8ojfxB/852mujdPpSNHT2Ml2A= ; Received: from unknown (HELO home) (d1945@sbcglobal.net@69.104.191.121 with login) by smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2006 23:17:27 -0000 Received: by home (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:17:26 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:17:26 -0700 From: George Allan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061019231726.GA672@home> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20061017024608.oz5nxhf483s4c444@www.be-known-online.com> <20061017033149.GA1064@home> <20061018011558.rebcylgmsvr44wwg@www.be-known-online.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061018011558.rebcylgmsvr44wwg@www.be-known-online.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Automated installations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:17:28 -0000 On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 01:15:58AM +0000, valentin_nils@be-known-online.com wrote: Be considerate of others. Please don't top post. > Quoting George Allan: >> valentin_nils@be-known-online.com wrote: >>> I am in search of an tool for automated installations. SOmething like >>> Kickstart or Autoyast for Linux - just the BSD-able version ;-) >>> >>> Is anybody aware of such a tool that I perhaps overlooked or anybody >>> perhaps currently developing one ? >> >> sysinstall(8) is your friend. >> pxeboot(8) will buy the drinks. >> >> Be sure to read through Section 2 of the fine Handbook. > > That basically means that I have to compile/burn my own CD with the > config file install.cfg in it right ? Not at all. I'd advise against trying to compile/burn your own CD. I'd even advise against using CDs altogether, except perhaps in the case of emergencies. Once you're past the 1 system count, setting up a network infrastructure to handle your installations (along with just about everything else) is often more than just a good idea. The small investment in time will give you the opportunity to learn something, and will save you time and grief in the future. > is there a version f.e. to start from the CD (with some parameters > where the config file is located) and do that from a boot floppy - > basically without PXEboot or can I point PXEboot to the CD image AND > the install.cfg somehow ? Again, drop the CD idea. You want to be booting off the network, and installing from the network. The following link provides a newbie-friendly description of how you can use PXE to perform a simple network-based installation: http://gja.space4me.com/things/Using_pxeboot_Install53.html Once you're comfortable with the concepts, you can proceed to automating the installation (and customising install.cfg): http://www.tnpi.biz/computing/freebsd/pxe-netboot.shtml Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 23:29:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F088516A412 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agus.262@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83DE643D46 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:29:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from agus.262@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so779063wxc for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:29:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=rKUjdH21Avvck5gndzyeYFCfq8zDVXxBI/sESwSmABqDcpFw3SsLWDWlTZLa634GLY+RMSX0oF996LTWqUXnG4the+N0aAEZmW+uqlT+MvF2oGcx+k5v56Y8q/kY8jIRCi+5M+692Dg8ViQK85dG7oZP6gVfX+TOJ5/sxeKaZac= Received: by 10.90.54.20 with SMTP id c20mr719544aga; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.70.7 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:29:07 -0300 From: Agus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How many Labels/partitions are permitted? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:29:09 -0000 Hi all. I was reading the installation of freebsd and get that only partitions, sorry, labels a to h are allowed. is this so? So if i want to have the following scheme: / /home /usr /usr/local /tmp /var /var/log /homeb Can i make this? cause i tried, but i get an X in the label... Thanx guys.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 23:38:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C71716A407 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE2943D49 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:38:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9JNbw02007810 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:37:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:37:57 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <45392E74.9000003@signull.com> In-Reply-To: <45392E74.9000003@signull.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610191837.57826.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: cyrus-sasl & sendmail compile error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:38:02 -0000 On Friday 20 October 2006 15:15, Mike Spenard wrote: > Following this doc on sendmail-auth... > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html > > I go to recompile sendmail after > > # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail > # make cleandir > # make obj > # make > # make install > > and I get... > cc: /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsmutil/libsmutil.a: > No such file or directory > cc: /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsm/libsm.a: No such > file or directory > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail. > /etc/make.conf is as the document specifies.. > SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include/sasl1 -DSASL > SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib > SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl > -- > > Mike Spenard > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" if thats all you did, then you left out 2 important steps. here is the way i do it: # cd /usr/src/lib/libsm; make clean; make obj; make depend; make # cd /usr/src/lib/libsmutil; make clean; make obj; make depend; make # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail; make clean; make obj; make depend; make; make install those first 2 lines should take care of the errors youre seeing. hth, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 23:39:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C9816A416 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elessar@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2879443D7F for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:39:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elessar@bsdforen.de) Received: from loki.starkstrom.lan (p549CF836.dip.t-dialin.net [84.156.248.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB73442410B for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:39:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:38:33 +0200 From: Joerg Pernfuss To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061020013833.35ae8f1b@loki.starkstrom.lan> In-Reply-To: <200610191303.k9JD322j081114@dc.cis.okstate.edu> References: <200610191303.k9JD322j081114@dc.cis.okstate.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.2.3 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_Cyq/M_VRFj9JZz0hTO.G8yt"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: Why csh on Root? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:39:25 -0000 --Sig_Cyq/M_VRFj9JZz0hTO.G8yt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:03:02 -0500 Martin McCormick wrote: > Is there any particular reason why FreeBSD has csh as the > default root shell? Nothing really wrong with it except that I > quit using csh about twelve years ago and so am a little rusty > about the finer details when I come across a csh shell. On a > number of FreeBSD4.x systems, I used chsh to change root's shell > after installing bash and the only thing I noticed was that one > should be careful of the $PATH variable and make sure it at least > hits all the same directories in the same order. Other than > that, it worked. >=20 > On a recent upgrade to 5.4, I noticed the C shell is > still default so I figured I would ask before changing it so as > not to introduce hidden problems later. Basically, I like bash > better and also add a couple more paths such as /usr/local/etc > for home-grown applications. >=20 > Thanks for your thoughts. On first look, FreeBSD seems to come with 3 shells: sh, csh and tcsh Then again, that is not entirely true. /bin/sh is actually an ash. Minimal POSIX sh with a few additions that don't help it anyway near a friendly shell for interactive use. Then csh and tcsh - they are one and the same, a tcsh. 25183 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 333980 5 Sep 16:12 /bin/tcsh* 25183 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 333980 5 Sep 16:12 /bin/csh* ^^^^^ ^ same inode link count 2 The reasons for that are many. - csh is the shell that originated in Berkeley (legacy reason) - bash isn't quite released unter a two-clause BSDL, which isn't desireable as a part of the base (license reason) - in case of a system failure, the root shell should work (single user reason) - everybody that works a lot on the shell with modify his environment anyway to his personal preference (why-bother reason) - probably more Neither of these are by itself 100% convincing and you can construct a "yeah but if..." without any problems. But everyone of these reasons is by itself able to start one ceremonial bikeshed unlike anything known to man so far. Therefor, one could describe the status quo as a truce. The elephant that everybody sees and noone talks about. The chance of getting a really broad concensus on these topics is so slim, that it simply isn't touched. Especially since it isn't broken. One can add bash3, ksh93, zsh, ... to the system via ports and these work. One can use toor and asign that user a different shell. One can simply use `sudo bash' instead of normal `su'/`su -l'. The one instance where one really needs the root csh is in case of a rather bad system failure. And an unfamiliar scripting syntax is one's least problem in that case anyway. So, either chsh to /usr/local/bin/bash and use plain /bin/sh in single user situations, or make a statically compiled /bin/bash. If one is prepared for eventual fallout, the possibilities endless. Joerg --=20 | /"\ ASCII ribbon | GnuPG Key ID | e86d b753 3deb e749 6c3a | | \ / campaign against | 0xbbcaad24 | 5706 1f7d 6cfd bbca ad24 | | X HTML in email | .the next sentence is true. | | / \ and news | .the previous sentence was a lie. | --Sig_Cyq/M_VRFj9JZz0hTO.G8yt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFOAyBH31s/bvKrSQRArvYAKCE0RYAkNDA9RoxmnhW5Oyv5RXo8ACeND+D rGVkycOK24zsChiT444clSY= =Zhl1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_Cyq/M_VRFj9JZz0hTO.G8yt-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 23:48:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC1F16A40F for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ext-gw.lemis.com (ext-gw.lemis.com [150.101.14.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE23243D6D for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:48:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ext-gw.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6BD13302D; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:18:39 +0930 (CST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FFF99C296; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:18:39 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:18:39 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Agus Message-ID: <20061019234839.GJ96445@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+/c+wG9PuVDVAlsu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How many Labels/partitions are permitted? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:48:46 -0000 --+/c+wG9PuVDVAlsu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday, 19 October 2006 at 20:29:07 -0300, Agus wrote: > Hi all. I was reading the installation of freebsd and get that only > partitions, sorry, labels a to h are allowed. is this so? Yes. Also, you can't use 'c' for a partition, since it represents the whole disk, and on one disk at least you'll need a swap partition, so 6 is the maximum number of file systems you could create. That's not just adequate, it's far too many. > So if i want to have the following scheme: > / > /home > /usr > /usr/local > /tmp > /var > /var/log > /homeb > > Can i make this? cause i tried, but i get an X in the label... You can't make partitions like this. But why do you want to? There's nothing to stop you making a single root file system and directories of these names. My recommendation in "The Complete FreeBSD" (http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/) is to create a root file system of 8 to 10 GB and a /home file system for the rest of the disk. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --+/c+wG9PuVDVAlsu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFOA7XIubykFB6QiMRAn/DAJ0WAxwwUnE8tbt6+0XNq8BfZa10AwCeIH+h 1L/z4J9KMN0+d/pUQJcSt/k= =wq1l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+/c+wG9PuVDVAlsu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 23:49:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F9A16A412 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elessar@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED57343D75 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:49:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elessar@bsdforen.de) Received: from loki.starkstrom.lan (p549CF836.dip.t-dialin.net [84.156.248.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE08A42410B for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:49:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:48:35 +0200 From: Joerg Pernfuss To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061020014835.6d6280dd@loki.starkstrom.lan> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.2.3 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_nlbW4rNmuxP/K6VZg5HM9jB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: How many Labels/partitions are permitted? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:49:13 -0000 --Sig_nlbW4rNmuxP/K6VZg5HM9jB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:29:07 -0300 Agus wrote: > Hi all. I was reading the installation of freebsd and get that only > partitions, sorry, labels a to h are allowed. is this so? >=20 > So if i want to have the following scheme: > / > /home > /usr > /usr/local > /tmp > /var > /var/log > /homeb a-h are possible, yes, but b is usually used for swap and c is reserved "for internal use". You shouldn't change it unless you need a reliable way to lose data, in which case it can be quite handy. That leaves you a,d,e,f,g and h. Basically, now you have 4 options: - rework your partiotion sheme to work with these limits - create two slices on the disk, giving you *s1[adefgh] and *s2[adefgh] to work with - nest the disklabels (aparently possible). You'll end up with (for example) da0[adefg] and da0h[adefgh]. Yes, this is ugly. - try using gpt partitions (you can't boot from them afaik and there might be more limitations, i don't know) Joerg --=20 | /"\ ASCII ribbon | GnuPG Key ID | e86d b753 3deb e749 6c3a | | \ / campaign against | 0xbbcaad24 | 5706 1f7d 6cfd bbca ad24 | | X HTML in email | .the next sentence is true. | | / \ and news | .the previous sentence was a lie. | --Sig_nlbW4rNmuxP/K6VZg5HM9jB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFOA7TH31s/bvKrSQRAghjAJ4rR/VNIDaH1NQdMjAPh0kgrWWugwCdGKaG 88X1iuZkYOrGAJAXW6ryYV8= =7Hse -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_nlbW4rNmuxP/K6VZg5HM9jB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 00:06:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB10316A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ext-gw.lemis.com (ext-gw.lemis.com [150.101.14.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7F543D67 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:06:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ext-gw.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2AB1330A4; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:36:30 +0930 (CST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99D469C296; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:36:30 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:36:30 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Joerg Pernfuss Message-ID: <20061020000630.GK96445@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20061020014835.6d6280dd@loki.starkstrom.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0OMWfJhzSPULbgPV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061020014835.6d6280dd@loki.starkstrom.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How many Labels/partitions are permitted? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:06:44 -0000 --0OMWfJhzSPULbgPV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Friday, 20 October 2006 at 1:48:35 +0200, Joerg Pernfuss wrote: > On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:29:07 -0300, Agus wrote: > >> Hi all. I was reading the installation of freebsd and get that only >> partitions, sorry, labels a to h are allowed. is this so? > > a-h are possible, yes, but b is usually used for swap and c is > reserved "for internal use". Specifically, it represents the entire partition. > Basically, now you have 4 options: > - rework your partiotion sheme to work with these limits > - create two slices on the disk, giving you *s1[adefgh] and > *s2[adefgh] to work with This is the cleanest method, if you really have to create that many partitions. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --0OMWfJhzSPULbgPV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFOBMGIubykFB6QiMRAmjDAKClasB/aaNIy2XUtgtn1+9BsyAO2wCfdVS1 qhRWIqMKVHBEOO87ofyrmFk= =l5WM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0OMWfJhzSPULbgPV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 00:16:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA3E16A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:16:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC9943D6A for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:16:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so534891uge for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:16:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=PzjCFRg7B2K2uTq7D6gwvHlk1S4KJFt98tL2tePV49wj6HixF9+bMdj070yVOVpbS9DujRfEExMe7HfMOt+iHuNtw6ux7sm37o5gp2PAXbi7aCr01PIneyu3DgHZJAvcwbl687c4/T+NkPktzZxaIUWuEUT60N1GgS0f97C4oS0= Received: by 10.67.117.2 with SMTP id u2mr950003ugm; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.86.18 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20610191716y2f50bebfr6715e38698c4fb1d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:16:16 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Question with mouse pointer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:16:18 -0000 What's the best way to get a larger pointer on my comptuer? I'm running Xorg/KDE. I tried to look, but the only thing I could find was cursor profiles, and I'd rather not have to figure out how to create a new profile... Sorry for the lack of specifics and details, but I'm not what else to put here. Lowering the resolution isn't really an option either... Thanks, -Jim Stapleto From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 00:30:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A7816A4B3; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:30:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elessar@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C37343D5E; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:30:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elessar@bsdforen.de) Received: from loki.starkstrom.lan (p549CF836.dip.t-dialin.net [84.156.248.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6A242410B; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:30:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:29:38 +0200 From: Joerg Pernfuss To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey Message-ID: <20061020022938.709fda55@loki.starkstrom.lan> In-Reply-To: <20061020000630.GK96445@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20061020014835.6d6280dd@loki.starkstrom.lan> <20061020000630.GK96445@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.2.3 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_3u0Ao08yJUmEkox0=q4pm3D"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How many Labels/partitions are permitted? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:30:22 -0000 --Sig_3u0Ao08yJUmEkox0=q4pm3D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:36:30 +0930 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > a-h are possible, yes, but b is usually used for swap and c is > > reserved "for internal use". >=20 > Specifically, it represents the entire partition. Yes, of course. But "stay away from it, internal use only, creates bad breath and kills your firstborn child" tends to get the point across faster :) There is enough time to delve into the depths of disklabels later on. > > - create two slices on the disk, giving you *s1[adefgh] and > > *s2[adefgh] to work with >=20 > This is the cleanest method, if you really have to create that many > partitions. By far. I should have pointed that out more clearly, thanks. Joerg --=20 | /"\ ASCII ribbon | GnuPG Key ID | e86d b753 3deb e749 6c3a | | \ / campaign against | 0xbbcaad24 | 5706 1f7d 6cfd bbca ad24 | | X HTML in email | .the next sentence is true. | | / \ and news | .the previous sentence was a lie. | --Sig_3u0Ao08yJUmEkox0=q4pm3D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFOBhyH31s/bvKrSQRAjz9AJ9G+0BHiv14JAw/wE2zAtFVn9JCxQCcCmQ9 xyJn/zRJzS2ZPYVDlMMQMTc= =zqqc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_3u0Ao08yJUmEkox0=q4pm3D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 01:02:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8A616A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:02:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4E743D4C for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:02:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 13048 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2006 11:02:10 +1000 Received: from andromeda.lef.com.au (HELO localhost) (210.8.93.2) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 20 Oct 2006 11:02:10 +1000 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:02:00 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: "Jim Stapleton" Message-ID: <20061020110200.3ee59292@localhost> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20610191716y2f50bebfr6715e38698c4fb1d@mail.gmail.com> References: <80f4f2b20610191716y2f50bebfr6715e38698c4fb1d@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.2 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question with mouse pointer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:02:12 -0000 On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:16:16 -0400 "Jim Stapleton" wrote: > What's the best way to get a larger pointer on my comptuer? I'm > running Xorg/KDE. I tried to look, but the only thing I could find was > cursor profiles, and I'd rather not have to figure out how to create a > new profile... > > Sorry for the lack of specifics and details, but I'm not what else to > put here. Lowering the resolution isn't really an option either... Hi Jim, usually (in my experience) this is done by changing the cursors you actually use (rather than 'enlarge' the current by some software method). On my 6.2-PRERELEASE system X cursors are located in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/ you can download packages and extract them in folders there, or simply install them from ports (search for 'cursor' in the name). To change the default setting (so it affects your login manager too, you need to edit /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/default/index.theme For example, I have the following cursor packages installed: $ pkg_info | grep curso cursor-bluecurve-theme-0.234_2 The Bluecurve X cursor themes and my index.theme is: [betom@ayiin] [Fri Oct 20 10:59:07 2006] /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/default $ cat index.theme [Icon Theme] Inherits=Bluecurve-inverse #Inherits=core There may be some way for your desktop manager to modify the cursor... but this works, and I use XFCE, so i don't know those details about KDE or GNOME. I think Enlightment has some mouse-pointer related settings, but it's been a while since I tried it. HIH, B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome Percusive Maintenance - The art of tuning or repairing equipment by hitting it. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 01:31:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46BF516A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8161843D55 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:31:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9K1SVI7062976; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:28:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9K1SVcF062975; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:28:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:28:31 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Agus Message-ID: <20061020012831.GB62787@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How many Labels/partitions are permitted? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:31:08 -0000 Hi, On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 08:29:07PM -0300, Agus wrote: > Hi all. I was reading the installation of freebsd and get that only > partitions, sorry, labels a to h are allowed. is this so? > > So if i want to have the following scheme: > / > /home > /usr > /usr/local > /tmp > /var > /var/log > /homeb > > Can i make this? cause i tried, but i get an X in the label... The first question is, do you have any other OSen like MS-Win or possibly a diagnostic utility put there by a vendor using up a primary slice or two? The primary divisions of a disk in FreeBSD are the slices (unless you make one of those 'dangerously dedicated disks' which you don't really want to do). The slices are then [sub]divided in to partitions. There can be up to 4 primary slices numbered 1..4 and each slice can be divided in up to 8 partitions labeled a..h - with partition 'c' reserved to describe the whole slice and usually partition 'b' used for swap. So, effectively there are up to 6 partitions allowed per slice. So, if you haven't already used up all 4 slices, then just make more than 1 slice at the fdisk stage and divide each up with enough partitions to suit your situations. ////jerry > > Thanx guys.... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 03:25:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2FC16A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vx2@tds.net) Received: from outbound4.mail.tds.net (outbound4.mail.tds.net [216.170.230.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AC343D46 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:25:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vx2@tds.net) Received: from outaamta02.mail.tds.net (outaamta02.mail.tds.net [216.170.230.32]) by outbound4.mail.tds.net (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9K3P7RW022157; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:25:07 -0500 Received: from x7.frogdoor.org ([69.130.64.144]) by outaamta02.mail.tds.net with SMTP id <20061020032507.FZUR4750.outaamta02.mail.tds.net@x7.frogdoor.org>; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:25:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:25:03 -0400 From: Rob Clark To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20061019232503.6290141e.vx2@tds.net> In-Reply-To: <4536377D.2020909@open-networks.net> References: <4536377D.2020909@open-networks.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Timothy Smith Subject: Re: can burn cd's, can't read once burnt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:25:18 -0000 Appears a PR was filed on the same model dvdr drive you have. Not sure it's relevant, but here is what I found: PR#: 94415 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=94415 Regards, Rob On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:17:33 +1000 Timothy Smith wrote: > i have an odd issue with 6.0 that i've been trying to solve for ages and > nobody seems to know how to answer. > > 1. i can mount any cd's or dvd's THAT I DIDN'T BURN. makes no difference > what media is used. > > 2. i burn a dvd like so > > growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd0=bailes.iso > > outputs some info like this... > > 1608941568/1616412672 (99.5%) @3.9x, remaining 0:03 RBU 22.3% > builtin_dd: 789264*2KB out @ average 1.4x1385KBps > /dev/pass0: flushing cache > :-[ SYNCHRONOUS FLUSH CACHE failed with SK=3h/ASC=A0h/ACQ=80h]: > Input/output error > > and i find i have a dvd i can't mount on my machine, but under say > windows i CAN mount it. the same thing applies to cdr's, although i > don't get any error messages. > > so i know my drive works, but it appears freebsd does not. as you can > see by my dmesg below i have cam loaded and working, i've also tried > turning off dma in loader.conf with no success. > > acd0: DVDR at ata1-master PIO4 > ad10: 190782MB at ata5-master PIO4 > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad10s1a > cd0 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device > cd0: 16.000MB/s transfers > cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present > -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 03:26:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6D616A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC18443D46 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:26:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so827938wxc for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:26:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tS2nH8yXCdBM9tXGbmRS9eEMn+ILDcxO4P+R1Rh50Yi2uDRLDEFkCBnvS5fKJ4sivvEcoQVej5vXQx6cUm1tK3lga0o0b/INQjsdrnfHwnQRUsApI+teaAp6G6M2n9J+bIu4Dc7/4nR2qnTvajjR28bfplmhQCpBzicHr1MBncc= Received: by 10.90.52.2 with SMTP id z2mr749247agz; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.63.8 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:26:20 +1300 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "leo fante" In-Reply-To: <4537998D.40202@gawab.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4537998D.40202@gawab.com> Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Digitemp on freebsd 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:26:21 -0000 On 10/20/06, leo fante wrote: > Hi > I'm trying to use digitemp (http://www.digitemp.com) on freebsd6.1 but my attempt so far is without > success. > > Here what I've done, on a minimal freebsd installation: > downloaded the 3.4.0 tgz, installed gmake, then compiled with "gmake ds9097" ( > worked without errors) > > ./digitemp_9097 -i -s /dev/ttyd0 -q -c ./config > to initialize the program > > Digitemp starts and then nothing happens. > > I'm using a passive circuit and I've verified that it works. Installed linux on the > same machine and it works. > I've checked that the serial interface on the freebsd machine works correctly > connecting a serial modem and issuing ati command from minicom. Used root to avoid > problems connected with permissions, chmodded to 777 all /dev/ttyd*, tried ttyd1 the > result is always the same, the program starts without errors and just stays there doing (apparently) > nothing, to exit I've to interrupt the execution. > > Since there are no errors I've no other idea of what is wrong. > Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks If I understand it right, digitemp is a Linux program - don't you need to run it under Linux emulation? -- Juha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 03:39:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE9716A416 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikes@signull.com) Received: from mercury.mv.net (mercury.mv.net [199.125.85.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C8E243D4C for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:39:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikes@signull.com) Received: (qmail 2434 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2006 23:39:21 -0400 Received: from [207.22.49.143] (dslv-3-143.mv.com [207.22.49.143]) by mercury.mv.net ([199.125.85.40]) with ESMTP (MVMTR 0.13.0); Thu, 19 October 2006 23:39:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Peer-Info: remote-ip 207.22.49.143 local-ip 199.125.85.40 local-name mercury.mv.net Message-ID: <453844E3.4090303@signull.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:39:15 -0400 From: Mike Spenard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Horne References: <45392E74.9000003@signull.com> <200610191837.57826.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: <200610191837.57826.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cyrus-sasl & sendmail compile error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:39:22 -0000 Hi John, Thanks for the hints. Libsm goes fine, then I go to build libsmutil and I get... # make make: don't know how to make /usr/local/include/sasl/prop.h. Stop prop.h seems to be part of cyrus-sasl2 and i'm following the docs and installing cyrus-sasl1. My make.conf also specifies /usr/local/include/sasl1/ not /sasl/. Libsm seemed to pick that path up correctly. Thanks, Mike Ive also tried it without the '+' 's as the handbook shows Jonathan Horne wrote: > On Friday 20 October 2006 15:15, Mike Spenard wrote: > >> Following this doc on sendmail-auth... >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html >> >> I go to recompile sendmail after >> >> # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail >> # make cleandir >> # make obj >> # make >> # make install >> >> and I get... >> cc: /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsmutil/libsmutil.a: >> No such file or directory >> cc: /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsm/libsm.a: No such >> file or directory >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail. >> /etc/make.conf is as the document specifies.. >> SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include/sasl1 -DSASL >> SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib >> SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl >> -- >> >> Mike Spenard >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > if thats all you did, then you left out 2 important steps. here is the way i > do it: > > # cd /usr/src/lib/libsm; make clean; make obj; make depend; make > # cd /usr/src/lib/libsmutil; make clean; make obj; make depend; make > # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail; make clean; make obj; make depend; make; make > install > > those first 2 lines should take care of the errors youre seeing. > > hth, > jonathan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 05:10:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A8616A47B for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4392D43D5A for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:10:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9K5A1RL002563; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id k9K5A0fW002562; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:10:00 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20061020051000.GA2419@thought.org> References: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> <20061018215708.GB93083@gothmog.pc> <20061019001443.GC3342@thought.org> <20061019193854.GC11212@thought.org> <20061019214725.GA1683@gothmog.pc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061019214725.GA1683@gothmog.pc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:10:13 -0000 On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 12:47:25AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2006-10-19 12:38, Gary Kline wrote: > >On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 05:22:44PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: [[ ... ]] > I see an > > example as the equivalent of 10K words. > > I'll let Chuck write what he had in mind :) > > > > > Is there any way of testing this after I have set up my table > > entries? In other words, how do I re-initialize things without > > having to (ugh) *reboot*. > > If you modify `mailertable' in `/etc/mail', you should be able to run: > > # cd /etc/mail > # make mailertable.db > > to update it. A reboot is not necessary for Sendmail changes. For unknown reasons, mail started to be "refused" from my mailserver just as I was heading out this afternoon. It may have been a bad DHCP lease, ?? Anyway, a make restart and other reinitializations didn't seem to work, so my next guess is that I didn't restart my maps, databases correctly. If I ever have enough courage to test these theories in the next 95 years, I'll know. Meanwhile, I've got to beg help from some REAL system admins here. Postfix looks worth trying, but like I said, iff a wizard is handcuffed to the nearest chair:) gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 05:32:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57ABE16A412; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:32:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wes@opensail.org) Received: from softweyr.homeunix.net (cpe-24-161-160-202.san.res.rr.com [24.161.160.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BA643D45; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:32:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wes@opensail.org) Received: from [204.68.178.34] (gulliver.softweyr.com [204.68.178.34]) (authenticated bits=0) by softweyr.homeunix.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9K5WANX007489; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:32:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@opensail.org) In-Reply-To: <20061018015427.GA1779@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> References: <20061018015427.GA1779@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <154453DF-3064-449E-8462-0FE3F2097055@opensail.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Wes Peters Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:32:14 -0700 To: "Michael W. Lucas" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 204.68.178.2 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, wes@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mimedefang, perl, and amd64 trouble X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:32:17 -0000 I have a 3-day-old mimedefang installation running on 2.1-p10 with no such problems. I'm completely up for debugging the problem if you've got a spare amd64 system you're not using. ;^) On Oct 17, 2006, at 6:54 PM, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > Hi, > > (copying wes@, the mimedefang maintainer, just because it might > possibly be his headache.) > > I have a brand-new, freshly-cvsupped 7.0 amd64 box as a mail server. > Perl seems to be having troubles; when I fire up mimedefang, it can't > load some dependencies. > > Oct 17 21:47:39 bewilderbeast mimedefang-multiplexor[1730]: > Starting slave 0 (pid 1747) ( > 1 running): Bringing slaves up to minSlaves (2) > Oct 17 21:47:39 bewilderbeast mimedefang-multiplexor[1730]: Slave 0 > stderr: Can't load '/ > usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Sys/Hostname/Hostname.so' for > module Sys::Hostname: / > usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Sys/Hostname/Hostname.so: mmap > of entire address spac > e failed: Cannot allocate memory at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/ > XSLoader.pm line 70. > at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm line 23 > Oct 17 21:47:39 bewilderbeast mimedefang-multiplexor[1730]: Slave 0 > stderr: Can't load '/ > usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/File/Glob/Glob.so' for module > File::Glob: /usr/local/ > lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/File/Glob/Glob.so: mmap of entire address > space failed: Cannot > allocate memory at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/XSLoader.pm line > 70. at /usr/local/li > b/perl5/5.8.8/mach/File/Glob.pm line 96 Compilation failed in > require at /usr/local/bin/m > imedefang.pl line 3197. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/ > local/bin/mimedefang.pl > line 3197. > Oct 17 21:47:39 bewilderbeast mimedefang-multiplexor[1730]: Reap: > slave 0 (pid 1747) exit > ed normally with status 255 (SLAVE DIED UNEXPECTEDLY) > > Has anyone seen anything like this on FreeBSD before? I know that > Wine has had some mmap problems, but I imagine a Perl failure would be > big news here... > > Any ideas or suggestions appreciated. > > ==ml > > -- > Michael W. Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org > http://www.BlackHelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > Latest book: PGP & GPG -- http://www.pgpandgpg.com > "The cloak of anonymity protects me from the nuisance of caring." - > Non Sequitur > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 05:42:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0AE16A40F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:42:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B98543D49 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:42:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9K5gfdV002697; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:42:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id k9K5gfWU002696; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:42:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:42:40 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20061020054240.GB2419@thought.org> References: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> <20061018215708.GB93083@gothmog.pc> <20061019001443.GC3342@thought.org> <20061019193854.GC11212@thought.org> <5E10959B-FA19-41C4-9268-1183CCF616F1@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5E10959B-FA19-41C4-9268-1183CCF616F1@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:42:45 -0000 On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 01:16:33PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Oct 19, 2006, at 12:38 PM, Gary Kline wrote: [[ save the electrons ]] > > Nope. What you've asked for now is different than what you > originally asked for; if you don't want email for all users > @thought.org to be delivered locally on one machine, that's a > different problem, and it cannot be solved with a mailertable alone. > If it is only a few users, consider setting up .forward files. > > Otherwise, you will have to set up a virtusertable instead, by adding: > > FEATURE(`virtusertable')dnl > VIRTUSER_DOMAIN(`thought.org')dnl > > ...in your sendmail.mc, and then create /etc/mail/virtusertable with > something like: > > kline@thought.org kline@zen.thought.org > zivic@thought.org zivic@ns1.thought.org > grzegorz@thought.org grzegorz@ethos.thought.org > > ...and do a "make maps" in /etc/mail, or run: > > /usr/sbin/makemap hash /etc/mail/virtusertable.db < /etc/mail/ > virtusertable This is what I have found to work for (*mostly*) just-me. I willstick with sendmail and FBSD at least for my DNS machine and my laptop. Using virtusertable as per your example at least I know how to get my mail routed to ethos if tao decied to take another "trap". > > Note that splitting delivery within a domain like this is generally > undesirable compared with setting up a central mailhost and using > IMAP to read the mail from the clients, rather than trying to deliver > mail to individual client machines. Because if you want to deliver > to these individual client machines, you need to set up mail on all > of them, and make sure your DNS entries are right, preferably by > creating MX records for each new mailserver, etc... For my vvery small domain of computers, it's easier to set up my DNS and MX files. If I were doing this for-real or for a larger set up, I would have a mailserver and use IMAP. > > > Is there ay way of testing this after I have set up my table > > entries? In other words, how do I re-initialize things without > > having to (ugh) *reboot*. > > Of course you can restart sendmail without having to reboot... I did the makemap hash for my access/[db] map. Missed virtusertable.db, and just read the Makefile and found the maps: target. ...This has been a learning experience and I thank you gentlemen. gary > > -- > -Chuck > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 06:42:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2279816A40F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:42:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leofante@gawab.com) Received: from smtp4.libero.it (smtp4.libero.it [193.70.192.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEB543D53 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:42:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leofante@gawab.com) Received: from localhost (172.16.1.82) by smtp4.libero.it (7.0.027-DD01) id 451C4E6701E10391 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:42:05 +0200 Received: from smtp1.libero.it ([172.16.1.224]) by localhost (asav3.libero.it [193.70.192.152]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29837-23 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:42:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (adsl-ull-79-58.44-151.net24.it [151.44.58.79]) by smtp1.libero.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BE2A8C38 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:42:04 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <45386FBB.8020302@gawab.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:42:03 +0200 From: leo fante User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" References: <4537998D.40202@gawab.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0642-3, 10/19/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Scanned: with antispam and antivirus automated system at libero.it Subject: Re: Digitemp on freebsd 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:42:07 -0000 > If I understand it right, digitemp is a Linux program - don't you need > to run it under Linux emulation? I've compiled from the sources and the compilation succeeded without errors. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 06:43:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8E416A40F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:43:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FE743D45 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:43:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k9K6hHx91936; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:43:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <001601c6f412$dd30a820$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Moses Leslie" References: <20061018222030.S11323@fincher.users.accretive-networks.net> <001801c6f349$1198b320$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <20061019011206.N11323@fincher.users.accretive-networks.net> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:42:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: increasing transmit speeds in WAN setting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:43:32 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moses Leslie" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:33 AM Subject: Re: increasing transmit speeds in WAN setting? > Hi Ted, > > While I don't totally discount that possibility, I really don't think > that's the case. I told you that you wouldn't believe me. > We have over 500 servers, most of them running FreeBSD, > and we've seen this happen in multiple cases on different hardware. Except all of them gigabit cards, right? So much for "different hardware" > When > it's linux, exact same hardware, exact same cables, this doesn't happen. > > It's an intel card gbit card, using the em driver. They're uplinked to > Cisco 2948-getx switches, which are uplinked to 65xx's, which then go to > 12xxx borders. There aren't any collision errors on the port at all: > > 24 totalCollisionCount = 0 > 25 lateCollisionCount = 0 > 26 singleCollisionFrames = 0 > 27 multipleCollisionFrames = 0 > 28 excessiveCollisionFrames = 0 > > and no real errors to speak of, period. > > The port is auto, since it needs to be to get gbit. All of the non-gbit > servers we have are forced 100/full, all cisco switches, all intel 100/pro > (fxp) drivers, they all show this same problem. > Well right there you are doing things wrong. You should always set ethernet cards to auto. The only time you ever force 100/full or force anything, speed/duplex, is when your plugged into a hub that does NOT autoswitch. There's very few of them around that are 100base T, but there are some, and there's a lot more 10baseT stuff that wasn't autoswitching. Any halfway decent 100baseT hub will support nway autonegotiation and when you hard-code post speeds you will cause drops and speed loss. But, please don't take my word for it since you seem to like disbelieving me, just try it out yourself. Go to your fxp servers, login to your switches, set the switch port to the server to autonegotiation, on the server remove all the media options in /etc/rc.conf, shut down the server (you must power it down for the ports to switch into autonegotiation) and bring it up and you will see both sides negotiate to 100base T full, and a lot of your problems in throughput will disappear. Both the switch and the servermust be set to autonegotiation. If they don't autonegotiate to 100baseTfull, then you have a cable problem, simple as that. I've been doing ethernet since the late 80's and doing it professionally for a decade, and I've seen and use more different types of ethernet in my life than you will ever see in the rest of your career. The idea that your supposed to override the autonegotiation and hard code stuff originated from network admins who plugged early 100baseT stuff together then couldn't figure out why it didn't autonegotiate to 100baseT full. What they didn't realze is that the cabling they were using - CAT-3 mostly, or CAT-5 that had been incorrectly terminated with the wrong connectors, or wrong plugs, or wrong wiring pattern, or bad crimps because they were using stranded plugs on solid core wire, or some other such thing, what the real culprit, and the autonegotiation chips were in fact detecting the problem and trying to protect the network. Unfortunately, 90% of network admins out there don't know the first thing about layer-1, they assume the wiring contractors handle all that. The wiring contractors by contrast are mostly minimum-wage goobers who's heads are filled with a lot of rediculous nonsense about how Ethernet really works. > If the server is a 4.9 server, I can get ~400KB/s. If it's 6.1, ~300KB/s. > Linux 2.6, ~650KB/s, which is about what I'd expect given the latency and > the default settings. All on the same hardware, same switches, same > cables. > The Linux device drivers are simply different than the FreeBSD drivers. I don't know how much more I can tell you this over and over. The em driver has got some problems, granted. But, this has absolutely nothing to do with the FreeBSD version or the TCP/IP stack. Until you do what I told you to do and properly setup and test under fxp0, I am just not going to waste my time on this anymore. I will leave you with a printout of a test run on a new mailserver I'm building up right now, in fact, using an fxp card, to prove it's a not a stack problem. You can choose to believe it or you can choose to continue wasting your time chasing ghosts in the TP stack when the problem is the driver: $ whoami tedm $ $ fetch ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ls-lR.gz ls-lR.gz 100% of 18 MB 1057 kBps 00m00s $ $ ping ftp.freebsd.org PING ftp.freebsd.org (62.243.72.50): 56 data bytes 36 bytes from ge2-16.1000M.d5.opa.tdk.net (195.41.33.70): Communication prohibited by filter Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst 4 5 00 5400 82f2 0 0000 33 01 6e38 65.75.206.14 62.243.72.50 ^C --- ftp.freebsd.org ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss $ ping 195.41.33.70 PING 195.41.33.70 (195.41.33.70): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 195.41.33.70: icmp_seq=0 ttl=242 time=171.189 ms 64 bytes from 195.41.33.70: icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=171.470 ms 64 bytes from 195.41.33.70: icmp_seq=2 ttl=242 time=171.185 ms 64 bytes from 195.41.33.70: icmp_seq=3 ttl=242 time=171.179 ms ^C --- 195.41.33.70 ping statistics --- 4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 171.179/171.256/171.470/0.124 ms $ fetch ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ls-lR.gz ls-lR.gz 100% of 18 MB 1040 kBps 00m00s $ date Thu Oct 19 23:35:13 PDT 2006 $ $ uname -a FreeBSD mail.seasurf.net 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Wed Sep 20 19:38:01 PDT 2006 tedm@mail.seasurf.net:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/SEAMAIL i386 $ $ ifconfig -a fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=8 inet6 fe80::250:8bff:fee0:4f03%fxp0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 65.75.206.14 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast 65.75.206.31 ether 00:50:8b:e0:4f:03 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 06:53:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D86316A591 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729FB43D6E for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:53:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k9K6rRx92019; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:53:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <002701c6f414$48f1b080$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Zbigniew Szalbot" References: <7.0.1.0.2.20061018082011.066e8b60@msdi.ca> <004001c6f34b$c9640570$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <20061019090221.U77176@192.168.11.51> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:52:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ian Lord Subject: Re: Small Redundant web/mail setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:53:37 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: ; "Ian Lord" Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:06 AM Subject: Re: Small Redundant web/mail setup > Hello, > > On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > The really big ISP's use proprietary commercial clustering solutions > > that make multiple systems appear as one single system. We are talking > > hundreds of thousands to millions of users. We are not talking 5000 > > users or fewer. > > > > You can easily serve 5K users on a single server. You just need to > > get good hardware. In other words, costs start at $5000 and go up. > > Ian - not sure if it is appropriate to ask but because one day I will need > to think about a server with solid hardware, what would you advise me to > look at? I mean look company-wise? Or simply select from a list of a > server-type machines that costs more than 5K? > Well, you probbaly want to start with the name brands who actually know that FreeBSD exists! Start here: http://www.testdrive.hp.com Click on the Sign Up for an Account link right under the FreeBSD logo. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 07:24:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C223116A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:24:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8D343D46 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:24:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GaokL-000DhG-BZ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:24:49 +0200 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:24:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Zbigniew Szalbot X-X-Sender: zbyszek@192.168.11.51 To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: <002701c6f414$48f1b080$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Message-ID: <20061020092406.C52570@192.168.11.51> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20061018082011.066e8b60@msdi.ca> <004001c6f34b$c9640570$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <20061019090221.U77176@192.168.11.51> <002701c6f414$48f1b080$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ian Lord Subject: Re: Small Redundant web/mail setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:24:55 -0000 Hello, On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Well, you probbaly want to start with the name brands who actually know > that FreeBSD exists! > > Start here: > > http://www.testdrive.hp.com That's very helpful - thank you!!! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 07:29:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88DE16A412 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766DF43D53 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:29:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k9K7T4x92264; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:29:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <003401c6f419$4d2dba40$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Erik Norgaard" References: <200610131712.46822.freebsd@alaskaparadise.com><4530DA30.7060004@locolomo.org><001c01c6eff4$f77cd590$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645><453211C9.8030102@locolomo.org><000001c6f1c1$c55e46b0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <4534A0D8.2070909@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:27:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: Beech Rintoul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Non English Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:29:43 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Norgaard" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: "Beech Rintoul" ; Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:22 AM Subject: Re: Non English Spam > > Also this means that later filtering on the first Received field is > double work: You already accepted the mail based on that information. > > In short: Writing header filtering rules for the Received field is > simply waste of time and proof of inefficiency. > I agree with this but unfortunately the real world often screws this up. For example, SpamCop is one of the most effective blacklists on the Internet because of it's high user participation. Unfortunately, it repeatedly blocks yahoomail, craigslist, and ebay because spammers hate it and try to stuff it up so as to get people to stop using it. As a result, you cannot use Spamcop to reject at the HELO. Instead you have to post-filter the mail and do your spamcop lookups, so you can exempt domains like ebay that are legitimate. > Just as Sendmail, Postfix is not designed for spam filtering. Postfix > provides simple filtering mechanisms, keeping it simple postfix provides > an effective and reliable MTA that doesn't suffer the track record of > security bugs Sendmail does. > > When the native filters does not suffice you can combine with any number > of "policy services": External filtering mechanisms such as postgrey, > spam assassin etc. This design is clean, reliable and easy to manage. > Same for Sendmail, you can use milters to add all this stuff in. Or you can do it in the local delivery agent. > > OP requested a way to filter away the spam in foreign character sets > because for some reason these were not caught by Spam Assassin or > procmail. I gave a solution that solves that problem, and I mentioned > the problem of false negatives for this list. > > Rather than get pissed, do try to offer an alternative solution to a > real problem. > There really is no solution. Fundamentally, well written spam is not distinguishable from non-spam by a computer. What has saved our asses so far is that there's not a spammer alive who has been able to resist the temptation to use bold, colors, blinking test, hot phrases, and other attention-getting devices in their spams. Since you can program a computer to look for the attention getting stuff, what has happened is a little social engineering. Most people today have abandonded use of attention-getting devices in their e-mails because when they use HTMLized text and such, their mails tend to get blocked as spam by everyone and their dog. So, the spam content filters can still distinguish spam from non-spam by looking for these differences. But it is only a matter of time before the spammers all wake up and smell the coffee, and start using standard ASCII pure text for their spams, and then all these charset filters your loving will go gurgling down the drain. Granted that might make their spams less effective so they might get less respondents. Frankly, I think there is no technical solution, I think there are only political solutions. We've already made spam illegal in the US, and the CAN-SPAM act defines the "advertised" party in the spams also as a spammer, in addition to the actual spammer sending the stuff. It would be childs play for the FBI to work with the major ISP's to create thousands of dummy e-mail addresses and use these to capture spam runs. Then they just go arrest the people in the company that is being advertised and hang a few of them high. There's no need to even go after the actual spammers themselves. When this happens enough times, the supply of companies that are willing to pay spammers to send spam will dry up, and the spammers will go find some other criminal activity to engage in. But, the FBI isn't doing this because many of the companies that are hiring spammers have lots of money, and that gives them lots of political power. So, the will to curb spam just isn' t there even though money "earned" by spammers is undoubtedly going into organized crime, feeding terror cells, and other more nasty stuff. > > I asked politely if there were any consensus or best practices etc. on > this issue. You have the regular mail on "how to get the best results" > there are recommendations on how to use this list, they are not enforced > but only serve as guidelines. > > I don't try to force people to use particular character sets, I merely > ask whether such recommendation exist for "the best results when using > the list", in which case filtering on charsets may be the least > imperfect solution (until you share your perfect filter, that is). > Your continuing to try to muddy the issue by inferring that personal filters are the same as requirements to post. You snipped all my explanation of what the differences are and responded with a snotty request for a perfect filter, when I never said I ever had one. As I already stated, what people do on their own mailserver is their business. If they want to filter Asian charsets, then fine. Go ahead. But, telling people they can't use them when posting to the list is crossing the line. Certainly a "best results when using the list" document is a good thing. But, that is a recommendation, not a requirement. The response that got me pissed was speculating that the list server should filter on Asian charsets, and we should order, not recommend, to people that they don't use Asian charsets. I'm glad to see your backwatering from that. The charset filtering may well be a "least imperfect" filter, but it must be implemented on the recipients of the list mailservers and mail clients. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 07:30:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137B916A40F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:30:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kfo@lasertech.dk) Received: from pasmtpB.tele.dk (pasmtpb.tele.dk [80.160.77.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F6843D49 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:30:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kfo@lasertech.dk) Received: from mail01.lasertech.intern (cpe.atm2-0-1061049.0x50c5056a.virnxx10.customer.tele.dk [80.197.5.106]) by pasmtpB.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82598E3028A for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:30:32 +0200 (CEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:30:31 +0200 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Message-ID: <96378F16C69F7C458EB12A666948A39C05CF17@mail01.lasertech.intern> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: problem firefox Thread-Index: Acb0GLSPWt3ZSY1MR1KvW/miFzIZNgAAAeow From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Klaus_Friis_=D8stergaard?= To: Subject: Problem Firefox amd64. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:30:35 -0000 Hi, I have a problem with firefox when I try to update using both = portupgrade and portmaster. I have cvsup the porttree, I have run a portsdb -F, I have a clean pkgdb = -F. I have tried to remove firefox, by make deinstall, make distclean, and = install it again with make install clean. It seems like it is a wrong compiler directive: /usr/bin/ld: /usr/X11R6/lib/libgnome-keyring.a(gnome-keyring.o): = relocation R_X86_64_32 can not be used when making a shared object; = recompile with -fPIC Please see below for further info from the upgrade. But how do I solve this, it has been irritating me now for a couple of = days. It is a 5.4 release, with gnome 2.16. Any help apriciated. /Klaus gmake[4]: Entering directory = `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla/modules/libpr0n/decoders/icon' nsIconURI.cpp c++ -o nsIconURI.o -c -DMOZILLA_INTERNAL_API -DOSTYPE=3D\"FreeBSD5\" = -DOSARCH=3D\"FreeBSD\" -DBUILD_ID=3D0000000000 -I./gtk = -I../../../../dist/include/xpcom -I../../../../dist/include/string = -I../../../../dist/include/gfx -I../../../../dist/include/imglib2 = -I../../../../dist/include/necko -I../../../../dist/include/imgicon = -I../../../../dist/include -I/usr/local/include/nspr = -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -fPIC = -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include = -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wconversion -Wpointer-arith = -Wcast-align -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy = -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -O -pipe -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing = -fshort-wchar -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O2 -I/usr/X11R6/include = -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DMOZILLA_CLIENT -include = ../../../../mozilla-config.h nsIconURI.cpp nsIconModule.cpp c++ -o nsIconModule.o -c -DMOZILLA_INTERNAL_API -DOSTYPE=3D\"FreeBSD5\" = -DOSARCH=3D\"FreeBSD\" -DBUILD_ID=3D0000000000 -I./gtk = -I../../../../dist/include/xpcom -I../../../../dist/include/string = -I../../../../dist/include/gfx -I../../../../dist/include/imglib2 = -I../../../../dist/include/necko -I../../../../dist/include/imgicon = -I../../../../dist/include -I/usr/local/include/nspr = -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -fPIC = -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include = -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wconversion -Wpointer-arith = -Wcast-align -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy = -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -O -pipe -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing = -fshort-wchar -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O2 -I/usr/X11R6/include = -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DMOZILLA_CLIENT -include = ../../../../mozilla-config.h nsIconModule.cpp nsIconProtocolHandler.cpp c++ -o nsIconProtocolHandler.o -c -DMOZILLA_INTERNAL_API = -DOSTYPE=3D\"FreeBSD5\" -DOSARCH=3D\"FreeBSD\" -DBUILD_ID=3D0000000000 = -I./gtk -I../../../../dist/include/xpcom = -I../../../../dist/include/string -I../../../../dist/include/gfx = -I../../../../dist/include/imglib2 -I../../../../dist/include/necko = -I../../../../dist/include/imgicon -I../../../../dist/include = -I/usr/local/include/nspr -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include = -I/usr/X11R6/include -fPIC -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include = -I/usr/X11R6/include -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wconversion = -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth = -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -O -pipe -O2 = -fno-strict-aliasing -fshort-wchar -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O2 = -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include = -DMOZILLA_CLIENT -include ../../../../mozilla-config.h = nsIconProtocolHandler.cpp rm -f libimgicon.so c++ -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include = -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wconversion -Wpointer-arith = -Wcast-align -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy = -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -O -pipe -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing = -fshort-wchar -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O2 -fPIC -shared -Wl,-h = -Wl,libimgicon.so -o libimgicon.so nsIconURI.o nsIconModule.o = nsIconProtocolHandler.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib = -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib/firefox -Wl,--whole-archive = ../../../../dist/lib/libimgicongtk_s.a -Wl,--no-whole-archive = -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE -lbonoboui-2 = -lgnome-keyring -lxml2 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lgnome-2 -lpopt -lart_lgpl_2 = -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -lXrandr -lXi -lXinerama -latk-1.0 = -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lXcursor -lXfixes -lcairo = -lpangoft2-1.0 -lfontconfig -lfreetype -lz -lpango-1.0 -lXrender -lX11 = -lXext -lbonobo-2 -lgnomevfs-2 -lbonobo-activation -lgconf-2 = -lgobject-2.0 -lORBit-2 -lm -lgmodul! e-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -liconv -L../../../../dist/bin = -lxpcom -lxpcom_core -L../../../../dist/bin -L/usr/local/lib -lplds4 = -lplc4 -lnspr4 -pthread -Wl,-Bsymbolic -lm -pthread -L/usr/local/lib = -liconv /usr/bin/ld: /usr/X11R6/lib/libgnome-keyring.a(gnome-keyring.o): = relocation R_X86_64_32 can not be used when making a shared object; = recompile with -fPIC /usr/X11R6/lib/libgnome-keyring.a: could not read symbols: Bad value gmake[4]: *** [libimgicon.so] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory = `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla/modules/libpr0n/decoders/icon' gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2 gmake[3]: Leaving directory = `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla/modules/libpr0n/decoders' gmake[2]: *** [libs] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory = `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla/modules/libpr0n' gmake[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla' gmake: *** [default] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox. =3D=3D=3D>>> make failed for www/firefox =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for /usr/ports/www/firefox10 failed =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for epiphany-2.14.3 failed =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 08:05:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BE916A412 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB87143D53 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:05:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so881467wxc for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:05:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=dr326S9PqHNw8pF7P9gV/89J9z91qCFuc9tyJzCm4eVCKg6UIfegEoor9/B3BeED2pZpIOveAmpYiPOBhKGanHjki3UyHZTelwehIw/zjzZ/OMac/WqW9pPSmgTr6rxtp742ecc+Ww+8IsqRyGDP+PIC/kvEpNsS/U2Yi/SJZtw= Received: by 10.70.29.7 with SMTP id c7mr272205wxc; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakshmi.susmita.org ( [59.92.61.145]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i34sm1824286wxd.2006.10.20.01.05.31; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lakshmi.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A602323A9E5; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:35:26 +0530 (IST) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:35:26 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: freebsd-questions Questions list Message-ID: <20061020080526.GA23594@lakshmi.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions Questions list References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.1 max sockets X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:05:35 -0000 On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 11:24:30PM +0800, ke han wrote: > I am writing a socket server deamon in C++ on FreeBSD 6.1 (or 6.2 if > this matters to your answer). What this does is accept many sockets > and does a little work with each. Each socket has low traffic but > stay connected for long periods. All these sockets get accepted > through one public ip:port (if this matters). > So my desire is two things: > 1 - good event handling for knowing which sockets have new data. I > assume kqueue is the way to go here? > 2 - I need to know what my limits are on max number of sockets. If > my system is a 64-bit install on a server with 8GB RAM, I need to > know how many sockets I can handle. Also, what options do I have to > tune this? socket buffer size? Any kernel parameters needed to tune? > As Chuck said select(2) is a good choice. That is what I used. kqueue() is more powerful and certainly much better when it comes to handling large number of sockets since kqueue(2) is very efficient when it comes to polling sockets for events. If you use select, the problem is that if you have say 2000 sockets and only one socket is available for read/write, then select has a stupid algo to figure out. Doesn't scale well. But kqueue(2) is very good at that sort of thing. Also kqueue() has a built in event mechanism that can be extended for signals and files also. If the sockets stay connected for long periods you may also want to enable TCP KEEPALIVE flag on the sockets. I don't think RAM and processor will be the bottleneck for you. Since in typical scenarios number of concurrent connected sockets don't usually hit such high limits. They come and go... HTH. Best of luck! regards, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 08:18:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F27916A415 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ke.han@redstarling.com) Received: from smtp102.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp102.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD4E743D77 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:17:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ke.han@redstarling.com) Received: (qmail 78873 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2006 08:17:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.20?) (ke.han@redstarling.com@218.79.209.77 with plain) by smtp102.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Oct 2006 08:17:56 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20061020080526.GA23594@lakshmi.susmita.org> References: <20061020080526.GA23594@lakshmi.susmita.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: ke han Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:17:52 +0800 To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: freebsd-questions Questions list Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.1 max sockets X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:18:02 -0000 Thanks for the reply. This app is intended to keep 20,000++ sockets alive at a time. These sockets are very long lived. I understand about kqueue. I will eventually write for this. What I need to understand are the various kernel tunings required to handle 20,000++ active sockets. I would like to approach the theoretical max...is it 64k? That is, is the absolute max socket descriptors 64k? any thing else in the way of this maximum? thanks, ke han On Oct 20, 2006, at 4:05 PM, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 11:24:30PM +0800, ke han wrote: >> I am writing a socket server deamon in C++ on FreeBSD 6.1 (or 6.2 if >> this matters to your answer). What this does is accept many sockets >> and does a little work with each. Each socket has low traffic but >> stay connected for long periods. All these sockets get accepted >> through one public ip:port (if this matters). >> So my desire is two things: >> 1 - good event handling for knowing which sockets have new data. I >> assume kqueue is the way to go here? >> 2 - I need to know what my limits are on max number of sockets. If >> my system is a 64-bit install on a server with 8GB RAM, I need to >> know how many sockets I can handle. Also, what options do I have to >> tune this? socket buffer size? Any kernel parameters needed to >> tune? >> > As Chuck said select(2) is a good choice. That is what I used. > kqueue() is more powerful and certainly much better when it comes > to handling large number of sockets since kqueue(2) is very > efficient when it comes to polling sockets for events. > > If you use select, the problem is that if you have say 2000 sockets > and only one socket is available for read/write, then select has a > stupid algo to figure out. Doesn't scale well. > > But kqueue(2) is very good at that sort of thing. Also kqueue() has > a built in event mechanism that can be extended for signals and > files also. > > If the sockets stay connected for long periods you may also want to > enable TCP KEEPALIVE flag on the sockets. > > I don't think RAM and processor will be the bottleneck for you. > > Since in typical scenarios number of concurrent connected sockets > don't usually hit such high limits. > > They come and go... > > HTH. > > Best of luck! > > regards, > Girish > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 08:26:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3CB16A403; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gamato@pobox.sk) Received: from exchange.cleverlance.com (exchange.cleverlance.com [82.119.241.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D9043D4C; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:26:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamato@pobox.sk) Received: from [192.168.1.67] ([192.168.1.67]) by exchange.cleverlance.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:26:51 +0200 Message-ID: <4538884A.5080303@pobox.sk> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:26:50 +0200 From: martinko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20061013 SeaMonkey/1.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ale@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2006 08:26:51.0885 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E6DA1D0:01C6F421] Cc: Subject: priority of make/ports options (?) -- FreeBSD Port: sysutils/portconf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:26:55 -0000 Hello, I'm using portconf to set ports' knobs. Also I'm setting some general knobs via make.conf. Now I've run into this situation: - i've got WITH_GECKO=seamonkey in /etc/make.conf - yelp from new gnome 2.16 does not build with knob above. therefore in /usr/local/etc/ports.conf i set: x11/yelp: WITH_MAN | WITH_INFO | USE_GECKO=xulrunner Unfortunately it does not work as I intended -- when I `portinstall gnome2-lite` it tries to build yelp WITH_GECKO=seamonkey. :-/ How can I solve this pls ?? How can I specify a general knob and then override it for some ports ? Cheers, Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 08:27:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8E216A412 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:27:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: from s200aog11.obsmtp.com (s200aog11.obsmtp.com [207.126.144.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3A1443D49 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:27:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: from source ([63.174.175.251]) by eu1sys200aob011.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:27:04 UTC Received: from [0.0.0.0] (unknown [10.0.0.37]) by bbbx3.usdmm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3E65C59; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:27:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <45388622.8090303@tomjudge.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:17:38 +0100 From: Tom Judge User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: riccardo_diago References: <453726A2.9060101@pharmaidea.com> In-Reply-To: <453726A2.9060101@pharmaidea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: System monitoring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:27:40 -0000 riccardo_diago wrote: > hi all, > I'm newbie w/ freebsd. > i'm trying to install freebsd 6.1 to create a server only to monitoring > the others. > Anybody has experience with cacti and nagios? > or if u can suggest me other solution would be great. :-) > > thanks in advance > > Rik > I would highly recommend Nagios, we have 3 monitoring servers deployed on 3 sites monitoring around 1200 services. Nagios comes with a large number of plugins that can be used to monitor most basic services and it is very easy to throw together new plugins to monitor anything you want. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 08:35:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4546E16A407 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marmoset@malformed.org) Received: from fincher.users.accretive-networks.net (fincher.users.accretive-networks.net [216.127.44.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D6043D45 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:35:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marmoset@malformed.org) Received: from fincher.users.accretive-networks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fincher.users.accretive-networks.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9K8ZDLR058744; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (moses@localhost) by fincher.users.accretive-networks.net (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id k9K8ZDCM058741; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:35:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fincher.users.accretive-networks.net: moses owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:35:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Moses Leslie X-X-Sender: moses@fincher.users.accretive-networks.net To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: <001601c6f412$dd30a820$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Message-ID: <20061020012607.D11323@fincher.users.accretive-networks.net> References: <20061018222030.S11323@fincher.users.accretive-networks.net> <001801c6f349$1198b320$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <20061019011206.N11323@fincher.users.accretive-networks.net> <001601c6f412$dd30a820$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: increasing transmit speeds in WAN setting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:35:15 -0000 On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Until you do what I told you to do and properly setup and test under > fxp0, I am just not going to waste my time on this anymore. I will > leave you with a printout of a test run on a new mailserver I'm building up > right now, in fact, using an fxp card, to prove it's a not a stack problem. > You can choose to believe it or you can choose to continue wasting your > time chasing ghosts in the TP stack when the problem is the driver: I'm setting up test servers now, it's just taking time to get a good test environment up. I'll respond with actual numbers after testing, between autoneg and forced 100/full servers. I admit, the forced 100/full is because of ancient lore, particularly with cisco switches not always playing nice with autonegotiation, we've just always done it that way (until gbit), and never had any problems. The servers in question all do 150-200Mbit in production, no problem, it's just that any one flow can't do more than ~300KB/s cross country. Given that they're over 100Mbit, what ethernet card is recommended if em has problems? FWIW, I am able to receive full speed on all of these servers. freebsd.org sends at 10Mbit, kernel.org at 20+. It's only sending speed that I have a problem with, and only with freebsd. Thanks, Moses From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 09:12:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4F816A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:12:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC38743D8C for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:12:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so895685wxc for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:12:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=BYgPs3GR2jJiFGH44Lkaja1p+wue5gdFdgQLQo6W5mOuQlVun6meVF8niGoSxJzqVa2187v4+RPJdg9U0GgoklInGGIIG4TlEE7ZU7tSwdl5QOyVx0/JiqsWXS4yO4P005tvxOiOf2H5YG+fJAYQmseQTEusoUvQXipQArk7BLY= Received: by 10.70.53.7 with SMTP id b7mr378309wxa; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakshmi.susmita.org ( [59.92.61.145]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id g3sm4347399wra.2006.10.20.02.12.16; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lakshmi.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4D8C323A9E5; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:13:58 +0530 (IST) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:13:57 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: freebsd-questions Questions list Message-ID: <20061020084357.GB23594@lakshmi.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions Questions list References: <20061020080526.GA23594@lakshmi.susmita.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.1 max sockets X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:12:39 -0000 On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 04:17:52PM +0800, ke han wrote: > Thanks for the reply. > This app is intended to keep 20,000++ sockets alive at a time. These > sockets are very long lived. > I understand about kqueue. I will eventually write for this. > What I need to understand are the various kernel tunings required to > handle 20,000++ active sockets. I would like to approach the > theoretical max...is it 64k? That is, is the absolute max socket > descriptors 64k? any thing else in the way of this maximum? I only have to say "Sorry, I don't know" for this question. :-) I hope other more experienced folks in this list will help you. I can give you just a thought however. If you have such massive requirements if I were you I would do the socket handling inside the kernel itself. That way you avoid the very expensive user space/kernel space context switch and also go in for some embedded system suited for this sort of thing. Perhaps I am talking rubbish. If so please pardon me. :-) Best of luck! regards, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 09:58:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA2C16A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:58:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3089143D5D for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:58:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.145] (helo=anti-virus03-08) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gar96-0003iJ-5P; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:58:32 +0100 Received: from [82.41.251.32] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gar95-0008MK-DW; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:58:31 +0100 Message-ID: <45389DC7.70208@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:58:31 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200610191303.k9JD322j081114@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <20061020013833.35ae8f1b@loki.starkstrom.lan> In-Reply-To: <20061020013833.35ae8f1b@loki.starkstrom.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Why csh on Root? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:58:34 -0000 Joerg Pernfuss wrote: >/bin/sh is actually an ash. Minimal POSIX sh with a few additions that >don't help it anyway near a friendly shell for interactive use. > > With "set -o emacs" or "set -o vi", and the existence of job control, sh is a perfectly adequate *root* shell, IMHO - though I'm a csh person myself. If you do a lot of maintenance in multi-user mode then you can set yourself up another id 0 account with a different name, and use any shell you like, and even make it's home directory somewhere other that /root. If you have multiple individuals needing superuser accounts each can have their own separate superuser account, personal setup preferences etc. and you get a limited amount of accountability, too. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 10:06:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3438716A415 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:06:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (146.155.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch [83.76.155.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA2743D45 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:06:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9KAHmEr026630; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:17:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k9KAHmqB026629; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:17:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:17:48 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061020101748.GA26596@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 Subject: squirrelmail/sasldb2 access problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:06:51 -0000 --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello=20 I use cyrus (incl. sasldb2) , apache, sendmail and squirrelmail (incl. plug= in=20 to change the sasl password). My problem is that /usr/local/etc/sasldb2.db needs the following right that= =20 squirrelmail can change the password in the db: -rw-rw-rw- 1 root cyrus 24576 20 Okt 11:46 sasldb2.db This is a security hole, isn't it? Do you have any ideas? --=20 Regards Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;=20 fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFOKJMwa4WkdMP0jkRAnI8AJ4vnt6Sk+d2SLwaACwBcNmiRGdzRgCfdGvt tDrOqxxX0YBu0hAocg8+BOs= =5smG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 10:22:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9F516A407 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:22:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D55043D45 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:22:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k9KALm0o052666 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:21:49 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.3/8.12.11) id k9KAM2qj007102; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:22:02 +0700 (ICT) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:22:02 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200610201022.k9KAM2qj007102@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Disable ScrollLock key X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:22:04 -0000 Hi, How to disable the ScrollLock key on a FreeBSD 4.11 console? I mean disable it for good, 100%, dead, like it was simply physacally not there. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 11:27:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1402016A47C for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: from thing.verysmall.org (thing.verysmall.org [212.100.226.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6825B43D6D for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:27:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: from [145.254.181.20] (dialin-145-254-181-020.pools.arcor-ip.net [145.254.181.20]) by thing.verysmall.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEB02282D for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:22:18 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4538B2AF.3080006@verysmall.org> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:27:43 +0200 From: "pobox@verysmall.org" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: cvs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:27:48 -0000 Hello, I do not want to start any discussion - it just occurred to me that it seems like cvsup/csup binds FreeBSD to cvs (comparing to svn), or am I wrong? Thanks, Iv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 11:29:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0624A16A40F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: from thing.verysmall.org (thing.verysmall.org [212.100.226.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003C043D68 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:29:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: from [145.254.181.20] (dialin-145-254-181-020.pools.arcor-ip.net [145.254.181.20]) by thing.verysmall.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056EC22830 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:23:38 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4538B300.9020700@verysmall.org> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:29:04 +0200 From: "pobox@verysmall.org" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20061020101748.GA26596@saturn.pcs.ms> In-Reply-To: <20061020101748.GA26596@saturn.pcs.ms> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: squirrelmail/sasldb2 access problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:29:13 -0000 Martin Schweizer wrote: > Hello > > I use cyrus (incl. sasldb2) , apache, sendmail and squirrelmail (incl. plugin > to change the sasl password). > My problem is that /usr/local/etc/sasldb2.db needs the following right that > squirrelmail can change the password in the db: > > -rw-rw-rw- 1 root cyrus 24576 20 Okt 11:46 sasldb2.db > > This is a security hole, isn't it? Do you have any ideas? Did you ask this at Squirrelmail? I think there you will get more responses. Iv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 11:59:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA35D16A40F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:59:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don@lizardhill.com) Received: from kermit.lizardhill.com (kermit.lizardhill.com [64.69.41.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810B643D45 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:59:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from don@lizardhill.com) Received: from ip72-193-85-114.lv.lv.cox.net ([72.193.85.114] helo=mickey) by kermit.lizardhill.com with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GaPrJ-000GzQ-A9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:50:21 -0700 From: "Don O'Neil" To: Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:55:58 -0700 Message-ID: <055d01c6f33a$de41ba20$0400020a@mickey> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Thread-Index: AcbzAsESoo1SPg7ORPGmEXUt1Xg9YA== Subject: POP before SMTP with TCPSERVER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:59:27 -0000 Hi all... I'm having problems with inet crapping out on the qmail-smtp process, so I've started using tcpserver to launch qmail-smtpd.... However, I'm getting complaints from people that the POP before SMTP authentication patch isn't working when I do this... Here is what I'm launching: #!/bin/sh /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -c 200 -v -u 1009 -g 1003 0 smtp /var/shc/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd >&1 | /var/shc/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 & Anything wrong with this, or do I need to do something else so that the POP before SMTP authentication works correctly? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 12:08:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90EFA16A4CE for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:08:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEBF43DA8 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:08:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9KC7ju5007311 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:07:49 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9KC8Lmp005581; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:08:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9KC8Gbp005580; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:08:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:08:16 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20061020120816.GA5512@gothmog.pc> References: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> <20061018215708.GB93083@gothmog.pc> <20061019001443.GC3342@thought.org> <20061019193854.GC11212@thought.org> <20061019214725.GA1683@gothmog.pc> <20061020051000.GA2419@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061020051000.GA2419@thought.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.57, required 5, AWL -0.17, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:08:41 -0000 On 2006-10-19 22:10, Gary Kline wrote: >On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 12:47:25AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2006-10-19 12:38, Gary Kline wrote: >>>On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 05:22:44PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > [[ ... ]] > >>> I see an example as the equivalent of 10K words. >> >> I'll let Chuck write what he had in mind :) >> >>> Is there any way of testing this after I have set up my table >>> entries? In other words, how do I re-initialize things without >>> having to (ugh) *reboot*. >> >> If you modify `mailertable' in `/etc/mail', you should be able to run: >> >> # cd /etc/mail >> # make mailertable.db >> >> to update it. A reboot is not necessary for Sendmail changes. > > For unknown reasons, mail started to be "refused" from my mailserver > just as I was heading out this afternoon. It may have been a bad DHCP > lease, ?? It's hard to guess without seeing the log file entries for the rejected messages. Can you _please_ show us the logs, instead of describing the results in broad terms? > Anyway, a make restart and other reinitializations didn't seem to > work, so my next guess is that I didn't restart my maps, databases > correctly. Maps are not 'restarted'. They are parsed to *.db files. What does your `/etc/mail/HOSTNAME.mc' file contain? What do the map files referenced by it contain? How did you perform the `reinitializations' mentioned above? > If I ever have enough courage to test these theories in the next 95 > years, I'll know. Meanwhile, I've got to beg help from some REAL > system admins here. I don't like 'REAL' in the above lines, but you are free to use whatever you are more comfortable with. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 12:11:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A607016A407; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:11:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gamato@pobox.sk) Received: from exchange.cleverlance.com (exchange.cleverlance.com [82.119.241.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E4443D6D; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:11:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamato@pobox.sk) Received: from [192.168.1.67] ([192.168.1.67]) by exchange.cleverlance.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:11:31 +0200 Message-ID: <4538BCF2.2030408@pobox.sk> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:11:30 +0200 From: martinko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20061013 SeaMonkey/1.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org, freebsd-kde@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2006 12:11:31.0338 (UTC) FILETIME=[E0CEEEA0:01C6F440] Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: kern.maxfiles exceeded soon after KDE or Gnome started X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:11:36 -0000 Hello list, I've installed KDE 3.5.4 and Gnome 2.14 on a new GENERIC installation of 6.2-PRERELEASE. Both desktop environments syslog error about exceeding kern.maxfiles limit soon after their started. While with Window Maker and many open apps, and even with Xfce 4.2, I usually have between 200 to 500 kern.openfiles, kern.maxfiles (defaults to 1064) is obviously too low for KDE/Gnome or I'm running into an issue or sth. As I haven't noticed recommendation on kern.maxfiles on project pages nor during installation of the ports, I'd like to ask the community what are the sane recommended numbers ?? Regards, Martin PS: Please CC me as I'm not on the lists. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 12:21:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0886516A47C for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:21:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ke.han@redstarling.com) Received: from smtp105.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp105.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 82F0B43D46 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:21:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ke.han@redstarling.com) Received: (qmail 69681 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2006 12:21:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.20?) (ke.han@redstarling.com@218.79.209.77 with plain) by smtp105.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Oct 2006 12:21:41 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions Questions list From: ke han Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:21:41 +0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: conary vs ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:21:43 -0000 Does anyone have experience with the differences between conary and ports? Its my understanding the rpath folks have rethought package management at a very high level and have something more to offer than gentoo's portage (which some feel is the closest thing in usability to FreeBSD's ports). Does anyone have a hands-on perspective of this? I don't mean that "ports already has 16,000+ ready to go ports and conary has much fewer". Nor am I looking for the usual FreeBSD vs Linux perspective. I'm looking for a tech and architecture perspective of just conary vs ports. thanks, ke han From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 12:26:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7FF16A47B for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apircalabu@bitdefender.com) Received: from mail.bitdefender.com (ns.bitdefender.com [217.156.83.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5415343D73 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:26:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from apircalabu@bitdefender.com) Received: (qmail 20133 invoked by uid 1010); 20 Oct 2006 15:25:42 +0300 Received: from apircalabu.dsd.ro (10.10.15.22) by mail.bitdefender.com with SMTP; 20 Oct 2006 15:25:42 +0300 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:26:43 +0000 From: Adi Pircalabu To: martinko Message-ID: <20061020122643.1ac5d0df@apircalabu.dsd.ro> In-Reply-To: <4538BCF2.2030408@pobox.sk> References: <4538BCF2.2030408@pobox.sk> Organization: BitDefender X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.2 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BitDefender-Scanner: Clean, Agent: BitDefender qmail 2.0.0 on mail.bitdefender.com X-BitDefender-SpamStamp: v1, bayes score: 500, neunet score: 500 X-BitDefender-Spam: No (0) Cc: freebsd-kde@freebsd.org, freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: kern.maxfiles exceeded soon after KDE or Gnome started X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:26:50 -0000 On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:11:30 +0200 martinko wrote: > I've installed KDE 3.5.4 and Gnome 2.14 on a new GENERIC installation > of 6.2-PRERELEASE. > Both desktop environments syslog error about exceeding kern.maxfiles > limit soon after their started. > While with Window Maker and many open apps, and even with Xfce 4.2, I > usually have between 200 to 500 kern.openfiles, kern.maxfiles > (defaults to 1064) is obviously too low for KDE/Gnome or I'm running > into an issue or sth. > As I haven't noticed recommendation on kern.maxfiles on project pages > nor during installation of the ports, I'd like to ask the community > what are the sane recommended numbers ?? See /usr/ports/devel/gamin/pkg-message on how to handle this. -- Adi Pircalabu (PGP Key ID 0x04329F5E) -- This message was scanned for viruses by BitDefender for Linux Mail Servers. For more information please visit http://www.bitdefender.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 12:43:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF76916A40F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:43:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from ecluster5.tls.net (ecluster5.tls.net [65.196.224.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58EC643D45 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:43:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 4219 invoked by uid 89); 20 Oct 2006 12:43:02 -0000 Received: from 64-184-9-181.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.103?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.9.181) by auth-ecluster5.tls.net with SMTP; 20 Oct 2006 12:43:02 -0000 Message-ID: <4538C46E.5020800@pixelhammer.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:43:26 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <055d01c6f33a$de41ba20$0400020a@mickey> In-Reply-To: <055d01c6f33a$de41ba20$0400020a@mickey> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: POP before SMTP with TCPSERVER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:43:59 -0000 Don O'Neil wrote: > Hi all... I'm having problems with inet crapping out on the qmail-smtp > process, so I've started using tcpserver to launch qmail-smtpd.... > > However, I'm getting complaints from people that the POP before SMTP > authentication patch isn't working when I do this... Here is what I'm > launching: > > #!/bin/sh > /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -c 200 -v -u 1009 -g 1003 0 smtp > /var/shc/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd >&1 | /var/shc/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 & > > Anything wrong with this, or do I need to do something else so that the POP > before SMTP authentication works correctly? > > Thanks! While I like ports I highly recommend you reinstall qmail using the instructions contained in Life with qmail. http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ I also highly recommend Dave Sill's book as well. We have run qmail for over 5 years here on multiple servers and Dave's book still sits on my desk, it is invaluable. Follow his instructions, and any problems you are having will go away. qmail will be efficient, fast, stable, and secure. DAve -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 12:44:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7274F16A407 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@voidmain.net) Received: from tiltup.nepinc.com (tiltup.nepinc.com [66.207.136.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE35043D58 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:44:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@voidmain.net) Received: from [192.168.97.132] (dhcp132.eng.nepinc.com [192.168.97.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by tiltup.nepinc.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9KCixnN003542 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:44:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freebsd@voidmain.net) Message-ID: <4538C4C6.2050605@voidmain.net> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:44:54 -0400 From: Tom Grove User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061016) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Sunbird 0.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@voidmain.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:44:59 -0000 Has anyone installed Sunbird 0.3 and had it seg fault? Is the port broken? -Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 12:51:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12BB16A40F; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:51:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gamato@pobox.sk) Received: from exchange.cleverlance.com (exchange.cleverlance.com [82.119.241.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7D243D5E; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:51:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamato@pobox.sk) Received: from [192.168.1.67] ([192.168.1.67]) by exchange.cleverlance.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:51:55 +0200 Message-ID: <4538C66B.3010001@pobox.sk> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:51:55 +0200 From: :mato: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20061013 SeaMonkey/1.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adi Pircalabu References: <4538BCF2.2030408@pobox.sk> <20061020122643.1ac5d0df@apircalabu.dsd.ro> In-Reply-To: <20061020122643.1ac5d0df@apircalabu.dsd.ro> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2006 12:51:55.0618 (UTC) FILETIME=[85CAB420:01C6F446] Cc: freebsd-kde@freebsd.org, freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: kern.maxfiles exceeded soon after KDE or Gnome started X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:51:58 -0000 Adi Pircalabu wrote: > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:11:30 +0200 martinko wrote: > > >> I've installed KDE 3.5.4 and Gnome 2.14 on a new GENERIC installation >> of 6.2-PRERELEASE. >> Both desktop environments syslog error about exceeding kern.maxfiles >> limit soon after their started. >> While with Window Maker and many open apps, and even with Xfce 4.2, I >> usually have between 200 to 500 kern.openfiles, kern.maxfiles >> (defaults to 1064) is obviously too low for KDE/Gnome or I'm running >> into an issue or sth. >> As I haven't noticed recommendation on kern.maxfiles on project pages >> nor during installation of the ports, I'd like to ask the community >> what are the sane recommended numbers ?? >> > > See /usr/ports/devel/gamin/pkg-message on how to handle this. > > Hi Adi, Thanks for your pointer! Anyway, I do not open large folders (as suggested in gamin/pkg-message) and still run into issue already at startup. Also I failed to notice any warning on Gnome or KDE sites. It might help other users to avoid the same issue. Regards, Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 13:41:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC90616A40F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:41:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kfo@lasertech.dk) Received: from pasmtpB.tele.dk (pasmtpb.tele.dk [80.160.77.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B8C43D55 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:41:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kfo@lasertech.dk) Received: from mail01.lasertech.intern (cpe.atm2-0-1061049.0x50c5056a.virnxx10.customer.tele.dk [80.197.5.106]) by pasmtpB.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AABE30700 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:41:42 +0200 (CEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:41:40 +0200 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Message-ID: <96378F16C69F7C458EB12A666948A39C05CF19@mail01.lasertech.intern> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Howto recompile libgnome-keyring with -fPIC Thread-Index: Acb0TXkR2+7VzmAPEduQvABQ/GmSOA== From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Klaus_Friis_=D8stergaard?= To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Howto recompile libgnome-keyring with -fPIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:41:45 -0000 Hi, =20 I get this error when trying to install Firefox: =20 /usr/bin/ld: /usr/X11R6/lib/libgnome-keyring.a(gnome-keyring.o): = relocation R_X86_64_32 can not be used when making a shared object; = recompile with -fPIC /usr/X11R6/lib/libgnome-keyring.a: could not read symbols: Bad value How do I recompile libgnome-keyring with the -fPIC compiler flags set? Is it possible to use the portupgrade to force a recomiplation with the = right settings? =20 /Klaus =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 13:58:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B672F16A417 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:58:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gamato@pobox.sk) Received: from exchange.cleverlance.com (exchange.cleverlance.com [82.119.241.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8DB643D55 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:58:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamato@pobox.sk) Received: from [192.168.1.67] ([192.168.1.67]) by exchange.cleverlance.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:58:26 +0200 Message-ID: <4538D602.3090608@pobox.sk> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:58:26 +0200 From: martinko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20061013 SeaMonkey/1.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2006 13:58:26.0871 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0C39470:01C6F44F] Subject: where to set SSL compile time cipher string ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:58:30 -0000 Hi, I'm not sure I understood this correctly but at I've read something about cipher list and defaults etc. And I would like to tell my system to build SSL with ``high'' encryption cipher suites. Where can I set this preference pls ?? I've searched through make.conf and man pages but haven't found anything. Cheers, Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 14:14:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AFB16A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:14:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from skycaptain.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.93.160]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C55943D46 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:14:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: FROM dell (Unknown [141.211.82.167]) BY skycaptain.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4538D9D9.3F637.12521 ; 20 Oct 2006 10:14:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:15:04 -0400 From: William Bulley To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20061020141504.GD859@dell> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: problems with libglade2... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:14:50 -0000 I am trying to run a Linux binary under FreeBSD Linux compatibility mode (linux_base-fc-4_9) on 6.2-PRERELEASE. The error I get is: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/X11R6/lib/libglade-2.0.so.0: ELF file OS ABI invalid freebsd% pkg_info | grep -i glade libglade2-2.6.0 GNOME glade library freebsd% ldd foobah foobah: foobah: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/X11R6/lib/libglade-2.0.so.0: ELF file OS ABI invalid foobah: exit status 127 freebsd% file foobah foobah: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped freebsd% file /usr/X11R6/lib/libglade-2.0.so.0 /usr/X11R6/lib/libglade-2.0.so.0: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), not stripped According to the "foobah" README: Executable is tested to work with: OS: Fedora Core 3, Suse 9.2 Platform: i386, Athlon, i686 What am I missing? What steps (short of tossing the whole idea out) should I take to successfully run the Linux binary "foobah"? Thanks. Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 14:22:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9B916A407 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7A943D53 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:22:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9KELWDc013782 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:21:37 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9KEM8X3006542; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:22:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9KEM7ZS006541; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:22:07 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:22:07 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "pobox@verysmall.org" Message-ID: <20061020142207.GA6298@gothmog.pc> References: <4538B2AF.3080006@verysmall.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4538B2AF.3080006@verysmall.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.569, required 5, AWL -0.17, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:22:10 -0000 On 2006-10-20 13:27, "pobox@verysmall.org" wrote: > Hello, > > I do not want to start any discussion - it just occurred to me that it > seems like cvsup/csup binds FreeBSD to cvs (comparing to svn), or am I > wrong? You're wrong. It's the other way around: We are *forced* to use CVSup, because CVS is centralized, without any other good way to mirror changesets to a distributed network of mirrors, users and developer workspaces. On the other hand, SVN is centralized too :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 14:50:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649DF16A40F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:50:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264B343D49 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:50:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id k3so306181ugf for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:50:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=fdP+I12xUYd/k6++k38jwWAnP99GGCHa5N230ycQMi1Cfak+OBOvkZ68h62JmKRIzOs+/HGc0OPfP4bqt/DXG8uKpppSuXpkKBSVZD4QUDqlpF5vlDlBfSTGVmeJSfPdu45FFpUHjnJNdF/pCaGjA4I3lLcTLAylOD/INZeGkjE= Received: by 10.78.204.20 with SMTP id b20mr2082510hug; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.167.16 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:49:56 +0400 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "ke han" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: da7fa825920dfffb Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: conary vs ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:50:13 -0000 On 10/20/06, ke han wrote: > Does anyone have experience with the differences between conary and > ports? > Its my understanding the rpath folks have rethought package > management at a very high level and have something more to offer than > gentoo's portage (which some feel is the closest thing in usability > to FreeBSD's ports). > Does anyone have a hands-on perspective of this? I don't mean that > "ports already has 16,000+ ready to go ports and conary has much > fewer". Nor am I looking for the usual FreeBSD vs Linux > perspective. I'm looking for a tech and architecture perspective of > just conary vs ports. I took a look at their whitepaper, which btw makes a nice reading for porters, as part of my ongoing research. The idea is cool, but not ground-breaking. And anyway, it's not the ideas, but their exchange that make the wheels turning in package management. Should you be interested in other ideas, please look through a list of package management related links: http://wikitest.freebsd.org/Upak/PMS_Links If you think you could take part in taking Conary's or any other system's advances into ports, or into packaging world at large, it would be my pleasure to join the effort. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 15:48:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA01716A49E for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5492A43D53 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:48:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Gawbt-000Ge9-TX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:48:38 +0200 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:48:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Zbigniew Szalbot X-X-Sender: zbyszek@192.168.11.51 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061020164010.U62717@192.168.11.51> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: monitoring lan->wan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:48:40 -0000 Hello, Is there anything you would *recommend* re monitoring internet usage (LAN to WAN), something that is available in ports? This would have to be something that would allow me to tie it with a router as my FBSD is not a gateway. This function is handled by our Dlink DFL router. Many thanks in advance! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 16:12:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A3D16A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: from thing.verysmall.org (thing.verysmall.org [212.100.226.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAD143D62 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:12:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: from [130.83.72.99] (x99.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.72.99]) by thing.verysmall.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551B022873 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:07:28 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4538F586.20705@verysmall.org> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:12:54 +0200 From: "pobox@verysmall.org" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4538B2AF.3080006@verysmall.org> <20061020142207.GA6298@gothmog.pc> In-Reply-To: <20061020142207.GA6298@gothmog.pc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: cvs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:12:57 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > You're wrong. It's the other way around: > > We are *forced* to use CVSup, because CVS is centralized, without > any other good way to mirror changesets to a distributed network of > mirrors, users and developer workspaces. > > On the other hand, SVN is centralized too :-) What I wanted to say is that FreeBSD will remain for the time being, on cvs - is that correct? May be it was a complicated way to ask. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 16:21:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D4216A416 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:21:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efrenba@yahoo.es) Received: from web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.176.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD9CF43D53 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:21:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from efrenba@yahoo.es) Received: (qmail 49003 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Oct 2006 16:21:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.es; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=m63wN4jaiU8xCEWELAWU4WKtrhyCzmYZcHGjrbpY8dv2o8jmpmd2sXePr8pbgWRPtbxKu8ZSCcVmIPN3w/TpymG1maxKEjYCZQKCxiIN2SPY3vb7Uvdsz37Sbt0YkzbEffBD0UpkoEzxgmi7t2/iipJ76D2SmEcWsYkpSeSq6GM= ; Message-ID: <20061020162119.49001.qmail@web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.55.168.195] by web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:21:19 CEST Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:21:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Efren Bravo To: freeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: rm command problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:21:21 -0000 Hi, Accidentally I've created a file called -exclude and now I cann't delete it. I tried with: rm -exclude and rm *exclude but it returns this: rm: illegal option -- - usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dIPRrvW] file ... unlink file How can I delete it? Thanks.... Efren Bravo. ----- Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=ZWZyZW5iYQ%3D%3D ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 16:27:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FF516A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from work@ashleymoran.me.uk) Received: from mercureh.reacthosting.com (reacthosting.com [195.177.245.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E60D43D49 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:27:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from work@ashleymoran.me.uk) Received: from hosta.jigsawfinance.com ([213.106.224.113] helo=[192.168.0.34]) by mercureh.reacthosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GaxD3-000Cnu-Ij for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:27:04 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <41089E7B-849E-470C-B953-AF2D2F3B17B6@ashleymoran.me.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ashley Moran Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:26:59 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mercureh.reacthosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ashleymoran.me.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Samba file server with ActiveDirectory accounts... pw usershow not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:27:07 -0000 Hi I asked about this a while back and a few of you were good enough to give me some pointers. I've been forced to look again at Samba because the single unmirrored disk not covered by the backup scripts that a certain sysadmin installed crashed the other day. So I thought we need a better solution. My ultimate aim is a server with a share for our company, which we can log into using our AD accounts and each have a personal folder. I already have my server joined to the domain from the last time I looked at this. Here are some diagnostics: # net ads testjoin Join is OK # wbinfo -D JIGSAWHQ Name : JIGSAWHQ Alt_Name : jigsawhq.com SID : S-1-5-21-1085031214-1957994488-1343024091 Active Directory : Yes Native : No Primary : Yes Sequence : 1172959 # wbinfo -u ...list of usernames... (not prepended by the domains, but neither is it on our Linux servers either) # wbinfo -g ...list of groups... # ntlm_auth --username=ashleymoran password: NT_STATUS_OK: Success (0x0) # cat /etc/nsswitch.conf group: files winbind hosts: files dns winbind networks: files passwd: files winbind shells: files However this command *should* now work, but doesn't: # pw user show PawelKaminski pw: no such user `PawelKaminski' The output in log.wb-JIGSAWHQ (winbindd -d3) is this below. Presumably this bit... [2006/10/20 16:35:18, 3] libsmb/clikrb5.c:ads_krb5_mk_req(552) ads_krb5_mk_req: krb5_cc_get_principal failed (No such file or directory) is bad, but I don't know what it means or how to fix it (googling has left me no wiser) [2006/10/20 16:35:17, 3] nsswitch/ winbindd_async.c:winbindd_dual_lookupname(709) [93883]: lookupname JIGSAWHQ\PawelKaminski [2006/10/20 16:35:17, 3] nsswitch/winbindd_rpc.c:msrpc_name_to_sid(257) rpc: name_to_sid name=JIGSAWHQ\PawelKaminski [2006/10/20 16:35:17, 3] nsswitch/winbindd_rpc.c:msrpc_name_to_sid(265) name_to_sid [rpc] JIGSAWHQ\PawelKaminski for domain JIGSAWHQ [2006/10/20 16:35:17, 3] rpc_client/cli_pipe.c:rpc_pipe_bind(2081) rpc_pipe_bind: Remote machine JIGSAW-SBS02 pipe \lsarpc fnum 0x8012 bind request returned ok. [2006/10/20 16:35:17, 3] libsmb/ntlmssp.c:ntlmssp_client_challenge(941) Got challenge flags: [2006/10/20 16:35:17, 3] libsmb/ntlmssp.c:debug_ntlmssp_flags(63) Got NTLMSSP neg_flags=0x62890235 [2006/10/20 16:35:17, 3] libsmb/ntlmssp.c:ntlmssp_client_challenge(963) NTLMSSP: Set final flags: [2006/10/20 16:35:17, 3] libsmb/ntlmssp.c:debug_ntlmssp_flags(63) Got NTLMSSP neg_flags=0x60080235 [2006/10/20 16:35:17, 3] libsmb/ntlmssp_sign.c:ntlmssp_sign_init(338) NTLMSSP Sign/Seal - Initialising with flags: [2006/10/20 16:35:17, 3] libsmb/ntlmssp.c:debug_ntlmssp_flags(63) Got NTLMSSP neg_flags=0x60080235 [2006/10/20 16:35:17, 3] rpc_parse/parse_lsa.c:lsa_io_sec_qos(224) lsa_io_sec_qos: length c does not match size 8 [2006/10/20 16:35:17, 3] nsswitch/ winbindd_user.c:winbindd_dual_userinfo(146) [93883]: lookupsid S-1-5-21-1085031214-1957994488-1343024091-1383 [2006/10/20 16:35:17, 3] nsswitch/winbindd_ads.c:query_user(478) ads: query_user [2006/10/20 16:35:17, 3] libsmb/namequery.c:get_dc_list(1426) get_dc_list: preferred server list: ", jigsaw-sbs02.jigsawhq.com" [2006/10/20 16:35:18, 3] libads/ldap.c:ads_connect(287) Connected to LDAP server 192.168.0.1 [2006/10/20 16:35:18, 3] libads/sasl.c:ads_sasl_spnego_bind(210) ads_sasl_spnego_bind: got OID=1 2 840 48018 1 2 2 [2006/10/20 16:35:18, 3] libads/sasl.c:ads_sasl_spnego_bind(210) ads_sasl_spnego_bind: got OID=1 2 840 113554 1 2 2 [2006/10/20 16:35:18, 3] libads/sasl.c:ads_sasl_spnego_bind(210) ads_sasl_spnego_bind: got OID=1 2 840 113554 1 2 2 3 [2006/10/20 16:35:18, 3] libads/sasl.c:ads_sasl_spnego_bind(210) ads_sasl_spnego_bind: got OID=1 3 6 1 4 1 311 2 2 10 [2006/10/20 16:35:18, 3] libads/sasl.c:ads_sasl_spnego_bind(219) ads_sasl_spnego_bind: got server principal name =jigsaw-sbs02 $@JIGSAWHQ.COM [2006/10/20 16:35:18, 3] libsmb/clikrb5.c:ads_krb5_mk_req(552) ads_krb5_mk_req: krb5_cc_get_principal failed (No such file or directory) [2006/10/20 16:35:18, 3] libsmb/clikrb5.c:ads_cleanup_expired_creds(488) ads_cleanup_expired_creds: Ticket in ccache[MEMORY:winbind_ccache] expiration Sat, 21 Oct 2006 02:36:48 BST [2006/10/20 16:35:18, 3] nsswitch/winbindd_ads.c:query_user(535) ads query_user gave PawelKaminski I'd be very grateful if anyone has some hints on how to get this working. I've spent all day reading about Samba, Kerberos, Winbind, NSS and on and on... It's still new to me so I don't know how it glues together. THanks Ashley From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 16:30:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A1916A412 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFFF43D66 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:30:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:30:39 -0400 id 00056415.4538F9AF.0000CF36 Received: from Internal Mail-Server (206.210.89.202) by mx01 (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Oct 2006 12:25:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:30:38 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Efren Bravo Message-Id: <20061020123038.2dc602f3.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <20061020162119.49001.qmail@web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20061020162119.49001.qmail@web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.9 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freeBSD Subject: Re: rm command problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:30:45 -0000 In response to Efren Bravo : > Hi, > > Accidentally I've created a file called -exclude > and now I cann't delete it. > > I tried with: > > rm -exclude and rm *exclude but it returns this: > > rm: illegal option -- - > usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dIPRrvW] file ... > unlink file > > How can I delete it? rm \-exclude or rm '-exclude' -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 16:33:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF4316A40F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:33:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gr3p.hattori@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4F243D6E for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:33:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gr3p.hattori@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id k3so336614ugf for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:33:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=rshwpNFvMXiH2h1r7yU7L0XFuWehAI8IAz3IQu1JrN4BczqNGVeedNlQJ3erFAuU9dom/5fyEu4jumkZIPH6PD+DVxSESg/cpvSzgWUZ6S1xnktLfpIOqnbZXxbpx7naoGSMvFujU3jaVqyR7yse0rtscEKyVX6rRp9ArXH5UbU= Received: by 10.78.150.7 with SMTP id x7mr2297409hud; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.196.8 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1e0cbd180610200933y52e4c972vcf6b9ee55525e88d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:33:17 +0800 From: "James Villa" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: disklabel question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:33:26 -0000 # /dev/ad6s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 1228800 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 11272 b: 2097152 1228800 swap c: 102398247 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edi t d: 1228800 3325952 4.2BSD 2048 16384 11272 e: 1228800 4554752 4.2BSD 2048 16384 11272 f: 40960000 5783552 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 g: 55654695 46743552 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 as single user i run: disklabel -e /dev/ad6s1 and i add: h: 53903178 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 is this correct? from sysinstall: unuse size(ST): 53903178 end: 156301487 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 16:44:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C4616A412 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF8543D7B for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:44:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay7.apple.com (relay7.apple.com [17.128.113.37]) by mail-out4.apple.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k9KGiYYX000599; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (unknown [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay7.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id AC32670; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:44:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20061020162119.49001.qmail@web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20061020162119.49001.qmail@web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:44:33 -0700 To: Efren Bravo X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freeBSD Subject: Re: rm command problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:44:35 -0000 On Oct 20, 2006, at 9:21 AM, Efren Bravo wrote: > Accidentally I've created a file called -exclude > and now I cann't delete it. Try: rm -- -exclude -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 16:46:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B117216A40F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:46:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ggroth@gregs-garage.com) Received: from mail.gregs-garage.com (h-64-105-8-34.chcgilgm.covad.net [64.105.8.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C9C43D55 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:46:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ggroth@gregs-garage.com) Received: from [192.168.0.150] ([192.168.0.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.gregs-garage.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9KGkSP3012373 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:46:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ggroth@gregs-garage.com) Message-ID: <4538FD5C.6010305@gregs-garage.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:46:20 -0500 From: Greg Groth User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45392E74.9000003@signull.com> In-Reply-To: <45392E74.9000003@signull.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: cyrus-sasl & sendmail compile error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:46:25 -0000 Mike Spenard wrote: > Following this doc on sendmail-auth... > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html > > I go to recompile sendmail after > > # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail > # make cleandir > # make obj > # make > # make install > > and I get... > cc: /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsmutil/libsmutil.a: > No such file or directory > cc: /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsm/libsm.a: No such > file or directory > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail. > /etc/make.conf is as the document specifies.. > SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include/sasl1 -DSASL > SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib > SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl > -- > > Mike Spenard rebuild world, and the needed pieces will be installed. Nice step by step how-to here: http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org/index.php/Installing_FreeBSD_6.1 There's faster ways around this, but if you haven't already run the buildworld process, more than likely you have a version of sendmail that needs to be patched anyway. Running the buildworld process will fix both issues. Greg Groth From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 16:46:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DAF16A412 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:46:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD71443D55 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:46:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.6/8.13.8) id k9KGkMwf003671; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:46:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:46:21 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Bill Moran Message-ID: <20061020164621.GA2332@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20061020162119.49001.qmail@web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20061020123038.2dc602f3.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061020123038.2dc602f3.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: freeBSD , Efren Bravo Subject: Re: rm command problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:46:26 -0000 In the last episode (Oct 20), Bill Moran said: > In response to Efren Bravo : > > Accidentally I've created a file called -exclude and now I cann't > > delete it. > > > > I tried with: > > > > rm -exclude and rm *exclude but it returns this: > > > > rm: illegal option -- - > > usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dIPRrvW] file ... > > unlink file > > > > How can I delete it? > > rm \-exclude or rm '-exclude' Actually neither of those will work :) If '-' was a wildcard character interpreted by the shell it would have, but rm is the problem here, not the shell. You need to either tell rm to ignore leading dashes as options (using the -- option): rm -- -exclude , or move the dash away from the beginning of the path: rm ./-exclude -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 16:50:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2FE16A416 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:50:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efrenba@yahoo.es) Received: from web25212.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25212.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6920143D45 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:50:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from efrenba@yahoo.es) Received: (qmail 8341 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Oct 2006 16:50:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.es; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cWUsigFIPTJcyf3aPEIdGlGtgtXZXUW4N5n8cNT9WBLbzJz/8dW6q+poOY9ZWcIQDIVR4THevDfeIyCn71ykncBUzIWv2WCYRu3SFZ1jkoTrQrShWMNlVD5wv8Y5CJ4IP6xlTC6iDCMAb0TH4lufZ3vScUpRpPHcTtXo189cHZ8= ; Message-ID: <20061020165010.8339.qmail@web25212.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.55.168.195] by web25212.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:50:10 CEST Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:50:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Efren Bravo To: freeBSD In-Reply-To: <20061020123038.2dc602f3.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: rm command problem [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:50:15 -0000 works with #rm -- -filename thanks again...... --- Bill Moran escribió: > In response to Efren Bravo : > > > Hi, > > > > Accidentally I've created a file called > -exclude > > and now I cann't delete it. > > > > I tried with: > > > > rm -exclude and rm *exclude but it returns > this: > > > > rm: illegal option -- - > > usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dIPRrvW] file ... > > unlink file > > > > How can I delete it? > > rm \-exclude or rm '-exclude' > > -- > Bill Moran > Collaborative Fusion Inc. > ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 16:52:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42FB16A415 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:52:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tataz@tataz.chchile.org) Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (smtp4-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F0A43D69 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:51:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tataz@tataz.chchile.org) Received: from tatooine.tataz.chchile.org (tataz.chchile.org [82.233.239.98]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1297B54E2A for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:51:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from obiwan.tataz.chchile.org (unknown [192.168.1.25]) by tatooine.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160D99E6C2; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:52:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obiwan.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E2C3D405B; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:52:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:52:47 +0200 From: Jeremie Le Hen To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20061020165247.GR53114@obiwan.tataz.chchile.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: jeremie@le-hen.org Subject: Running qemu on -CURRENT with -nographic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:52:02 -0000 Hi list ! (Please Cc: me in your replies.) I have installed qemu from ports, without kqemu (for now, at least). I am accessing the box with ssh, and I don't have X running on it, therefore I used the -nographic knob which is supposed to use only the tty. Unfortunately, here is what's happened: % jarjarbinks:/<1>msdos/qemu:104# qemu -cdrom /mnt/msdos/isos/debian-31r3-i386-netinst.iso -hda debian.img -m 64 -boot d -nographic -net user % (qemu) (Here, I type C-a h.) % C-a h print this help % C-a x exit emulator % C-a s save disk data back to file (if -snapshot) % C-a b send break (magic sysrq) % C-a t toggle console timestamps % C-a c switch between console and monitor % C-a C-a send C-a (Here I type C-a c.) % (qemu) % (qemu) c % (qemu) (Here I type C-a c again, in order to switch to "console".) % (qemu) >From here, qemu is stalled. I can't even go back to "monitor" mode. I'm solely able to kill qemu from another terminal, in which case my shell gets all the keystrokes in a burst. Does any experience the same problem ? If so, did you find a solution or workaround ? Or maybe is it running flawlessly ? Thank you. Regards, -- Jeremie Le Hen < jeremie at le-hen dot org >< ttz at chchile dot org > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 16:58:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A2E16A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:58:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A92A43D49 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:58:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.140] (helo=anti-virus02-07) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GaxhT-000657-Ud; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:58:27 +0100 Received: from [82.41.251.32] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GaxhT-0000ef-Ak; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:58:27 +0100 Message-ID: <45390032.8000909@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:58:26 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Efren Bravo References: <20061020162119.49001.qmail@web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20061020123038.2dc602f3.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <20061020123038.2dc602f3.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freeBSD Subject: Re: rm command problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:58:30 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: >In response to Efren Bravo : > > > >>Hi, >> >>Accidentally I've created a file called -exclude >>and now I cann't delete it. >> >>I tried with: >> >>rm -exclude and rm *exclude but it returns this: >> >>rm: illegal option -- - >>usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dIPRrvW] file ... >> unlink file >> >>How can I delete it? >> >> > >rm \-exclude or rm '-exclude' > > > Or even rm ./-exclude --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 17:02:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 25DB616A4D1; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:02:01 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20061020170201.25DB616A4D1@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:02:01 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:02:01 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/me@me.org (obviously, substitute your mail address for "me@me.org"). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? ========================================= Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.6 2005/08/10 02:21:44 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 17:02:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 2AB2416A4D4; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:02:01 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20061020170201.2AB2416A4D4@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:02:01 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:02:01 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF form. Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to download the entire book. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ for more information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm no longer constantly updating it, but I may be able to help Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 17:11:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DF216A417 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:11:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from ecluster5.tls.net (ecluster5.tls.net [65.196.224.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11E0643D7E for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:11:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 5972 invoked by uid 89); 20 Oct 2006 17:10:20 -0000 Received: from 64-184-9-181.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.103?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.9.181) by auth-ecluster5.tls.net with SMTP; 20 Oct 2006 17:10:20 -0000 Message-ID: <45390333.4020007@pixelhammer.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:11:15 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freeBSD References: <20061020162119.49001.qmail@web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20061020162119.49001.qmail@web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: rm command problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:11:20 -0000 Efren Bravo wrote: > Hi, > > Accidentally I've created a file called -exclude > and now I cann't delete it. > > I tried with: > > rm -exclude and rm *exclude but it returns this: > > rm: illegal option -- - > usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dIPRrvW] file ... > unlink file > > How can I delete it? You have probably found that anything you try errors because the shell thinks -e is a switch. The easiest way is to find the files inode number and delete the file using that. director# ls -i 107008 .bash_history 107760 .login 107759 .mail_aliases 107764 .profile 107765 .shrc 107758 .cshrc 107761 .login_conf 107762 .mailrc 107763 .rhosts then use find to remove the file. director# find . -inum 107763 -exec rm -i {} \; remove ./.rhosts? y This works for all manner of funky file names. I had done that many times before, generally from not reading man pages and passing switches to programs that didn't expect it, or by piping commands incorrectly. DAve -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 17:11:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A7D16A56C for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:11:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hemi@puresimplicity.net) Received: from just.puresimplicity.net (just.puresimplicity.net [68.77.126.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA43043D5D for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:11:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hemi@puresimplicity.net) Received: from just.puresimplicity.net (localhost.puresimplicity.net [127.0.0.1]) by just.puresimplicity.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9KHBNNm039810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:11:23 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hemi@just.puresimplicity.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by just.puresimplicity.net (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9KHBN32039809; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:11:23 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hemi) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:11:22 -0500 From: Josh Tolbert To: Greg Groth Message-ID: <20061020171122.GA39571@just.puresimplicity.net> References: <45392E74.9000003@signull.com> <4538FD5C.6010305@gregs-garage.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4538FD5C.6010305@gregs-garage.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender is SPF-compliant, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (just.puresimplicity.net [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:11:23 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cyrus-sasl & sendmail compile error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:11:25 -0000 On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 11:46:20AM -0500, Greg Groth wrote: > rebuild world, and the needed pieces will be installed. > > Nice step by step how-to here: > http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org/index.php/Installing_FreeBSD_6.1 > > There's faster ways around this, but if you haven't already run the > buildworld process, more than likely you have a version of sendmail that > needs to be patched anyway. Running the buildworld process will fix > both issues. > > Greg Groth I hate to pimp my own webpage, but... http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/sendmail.html Second part should cover it. Thanks, Josh -- Josh Tolbert hemi@puresimplicity.net || http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/ Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 17:15:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1D316A40F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02B043D49 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:14:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9KHCMGI066112; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:12:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9KHCM2o066111; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:12:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:12:22 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: James Villa Message-ID: <20061020171221.GB65879@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <1e0cbd180610200933y52e4c972vcf6b9ee55525e88d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1e0cbd180610200933y52e4c972vcf6b9ee55525e88d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disklabel question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:15:00 -0000 On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 12:33:17AM +0800, James Villa wrote: > # /dev/ad6s1: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 1228800 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 11272 > b: 2097152 1228800 swap > c: 102398247 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't > edi > t > d: 1228800 3325952 4.2BSD 2048 16384 11272 > e: 1228800 4554752 4.2BSD 2048 16384 11272 > f: 40960000 5783552 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > g: 55654695 46743552 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > > > as single user i run: disklabel -e /dev/ad6s1 and i add: > > h: 53903178 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > is this correct? Wouldn't this overlap/wipe out partitions 1, b, d, e, f and part of g? What are you trying to do here? It looks like your disk slice is all used up. There is no room to add an 'h' partition without deleting some of the existing stuff. ////jerry > from sysinstall: > unuse > size(ST): 53903178 > end: 156301487 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 17:30:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481C816A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:30:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msherman77@yahoo.com) Received: from web88310.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web88310.mail.re4.yahoo.com [216.39.53.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2895343D7B for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:30:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from msherman77@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 32163 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Oct 2006 17:30:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rfZJvRAfKR+f/5og+moJC0w4H1dGOgS7/x8Im64pXiDcbh+A1UBxCxwAMSSCnskYMPxJ3IBoe6OY9Wvsx/t0R3NsdN0YdD6NOAuOqxqcmq+EiqKaZfRX3DRSKX/GLyVhE0SDspEwgj1AfDmG57YLM240KNhbybsKVb0Y7BG3254= ; Message-ID: <20061020173029.32161.qmail@web88310.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Received: from [74.107.243.52] by web88310.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:30:29 EDT Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:30:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael S To: Efren Bravo , freeBSD In-Reply-To: <20061020162119.49001.qmail@web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: rm command problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:30:59 -0000 rm -- -exclude taken from man rm. Michael --- Efren Bravo wrote: > Hi, > > Accidentally I've created a file called -exclude > and now I cann't delete it. > > I tried with: > > rm -exclude and rm *exclude but it returns this: > > rm: illegal option -- - > usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dIPRrvW] file ... > unlink file > > How can I delete it? > > Thanks.... > > > > Efren Bravo. > ----- > Fight back spam! 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:43:13 -0000 Hi, Is anyone aware of a tunnel between FreeBSD and Cisco that can go through a NAT on the Cisco side? Thanks, Tuc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 17:54:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E1916A407 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:54:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nospam@thechristies.net) Received: from utility.secureserverdot.com (utility.secureserverdot.com [216.14.208.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5052B43D6E for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:54:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nospam@thechristies.net) Received: from utility.secureserverdot.com (localhost.successfulhosting.com [127.0.0.1]) by utility.secureserverdot.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9KHjbQr043036 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:45:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nospam@thechristies.net) Received: (from webmail@localhost) by utility.secureserverdot.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9KHjb8r043035 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:45:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nospam@thechristies.net) Received: from careywalshinc-careywalshinc-psr2104865.z136-94-67.customer.algx.net (careywalshinc-careywalshinc-psr2104865.z136-94-67.customer.algx.net [67.94.136.94]) by webmail.secureserverdot.com (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:45:37 -0400 Message-ID: <20061020134537.nsfybos19ccwkscg@webmail.secureserverdot.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:45:37 -0400 From: Pete C To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) / FreeBSD-6.1 X-Originating-IP: 67.94.136.94 Subject: musicpd & kld sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:54:35 -0000 I have an issue w/ mpd starting (trying to, anyway) before the kld for sound loads up, which causes mpd to fail loading . . then I have to start mpd at the command line. I would like to set up sound in the kernel, but I have Aureal 8810 based sound on the MB and don't see a driver to use in the snd_"drvr" line in the config file. is there a way to specify the order in which these items load ? any clues appreciated . . Pete C replace 'nospam' w/ my first name to reply directly From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 18:03:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3162916A494 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:03:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFC043D6D for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:03:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so1041362wxc for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:03:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DZOh2I86itiYZ9x2DszRd8cTca4YRlsXSNfAtX9SzfDX/XwVq9F3AadyfUkeQ0Ey+qSjCEbF6Tmjvo3VC+p0k0mckuV9FrVZwAISrZdVNdFCHQSBkJK5Rfh9VkhAYAzKorYIotPftPO3z5KvF2zrbbPYHS5DVBtdzEaTd2fj2HQ= Received: by 10.70.38.12 with SMTP id l12mr1224157wxl; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.130.20 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:03:08 -0700 From: "Kurt Buff" To: "Zbigniew Szalbot" In-Reply-To: <20061020164010.U62717@192.168.11.51> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061020164010.U62717@192.168.11.51> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: monitoring lan->wan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:03:10 -0000 On 10/20/06, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hello, > > Is there anything you would *recommend* re monitoring internet usage (LAN > to WAN), something that is available in ports? This would have to be > something that would allow me to tie it with a router as my FBSD is not a > gateway. This function is handled by our Dlink DFL router. > > Many thanks in advance! > > -- > Zbigniew Szalbot That really depends on the functionality of your router (and I'm not familiar with it, so can't comment on it), the configuration of your internal network and what you mean by 'monitoring internet usage'.. Do you only need to show aggregate traffic flow, to monitor total usage over time? If so, and if the router is SNMP-capable, then cacti (or mrtg, but it's not my preference) or some other some other utility that can get and graph SNMP stats will do what you want. If you wish to characterize the traffic to and from the Internet by protocol and/or user, then you'll have to do something more than simply using SNMP to monitor throughput on the router. In that case, you'll need to have your FreeBSD box actually parse the traffic, or get a netflow from the router (assuming that it can do that.) and ntop is a good start for the software you want, or perhaps etherape. Assuming that netflow isn't available from the router (and I think that's a fairly safe bet) the trick will be making sure that your FreeBSD box will see the traffic, and for that you'll need something like one of the following setups: 1) Put the router and your box on a dumb hub (not a switch) so that all of the traffic going to the router is visible to your box or 2) Have the router (again, assuming it's a multiport router, and capable of this, which is quite doubtful) mirror the traffic to a port to which your box is attached, or 3) Install two NICs in your box and have your router and your box attached to a switch that can mirror all of the traffic to the router - the first NIC will only receive traffic from the switch, the second NIC will have an IP address and be available for monitoring the box, including output from ntop or etherape. or 4) More tricky still, install two NICs in your box and have it act as a transparent bridge between your network and your router. I'm not familiar with this kind of setup, though I like the idea, and will be playing with it in my copious free time. :) or 5) Get a network tap cable, which is essentially a three-headed patch cable that provides receive-only wires for the third head, and that receive-only head is put into a second NIC on your box. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 18:05:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C0F16A538 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:05:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796FE43D92 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:05:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay6.apple.com (relay6.apple.com [17.128.113.36]) by mail-out3.apple.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k9KI5MMV018722; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (unknown [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay6.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 9A15BAA; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:05:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200610201742.k9KHg51A040000@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> References: <200610201742.k9KHg51A040000@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <691257EF-3060-450B-90DB-E82DE4CEDEB2@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:05:21 -0700 To: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tunnels to Cisco through NAT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:05:30 -0000 On Oct 20, 2006, at 10:42 AM, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: > Is anyone aware of a tunnel between FreeBSD and Cisco that > can go through a NAT on the Cisco side? If you update the Cisco firmware with the latest IOS+VPN version, you ought to gain proper NAT-T support which will work with most IPSEC/ VPN implementations. Otherwise, if you only need to implement a single VPN tunnel, you can use something like OpenVPN, which only needs you to forward a single UDP port (1194)... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 18:16:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F1F16A415 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEAD43D76 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:16:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GayuZ-0003jw-DN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:16:05 +0200 Received: from c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.147.85.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:16:03 +0200 Received: from jdarnold by c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:16:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonathan Arnold Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:15:28 -0400 Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <20061020162119.49001.qmail@web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <45390333.4020007@pixelhammer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-147-85-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060804) In-Reply-To: <45390333.4020007@pixelhammer.com> Sender: news Subject: Re: rm command problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:16:24 -0000 DAve wrote: > Efren Bravo wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Accidentally I've created a file called -exclude >> and now I cann't delete it. >> >> I tried with: >> >> rm -exclude and rm *exclude but it returns this: >> >> rm: illegal option -- - >> usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dIPRrvW] file ... >> unlink file >> >> How can I delete it? > > You have probably found that anything you try errors because the shell > thinks -e is a switch. The easiest way is to find the files inode number > and delete the file using that. > > director# ls -i > 107008 .bash_history 107760 .login 107759 .mail_aliases > 107764 .profile 107765 .shrc > 107758 .cshrc 107761 .login_conf 107762 .mailrc 107763 > .rhosts > > then use find to remove the file. > > director# find . -inum 107763 -exec rm -i {} \; > remove ./.rhosts? y Well, that was fun! I was wondering just how many different ways people could come up with deleting the file, but this one has to be crowned the winner of the all important "Most Obscure Solution" :-) To delete something based upon the inode - fantastic! -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 18:24:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0730916A415 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:24:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [204.107.90.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E9D43D5F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:24:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (dpc6747145123.direcpc.com [67.47.145.123]) (authenticated bits=0) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k9KIO2fp095334; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:24:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9KINxVV040646; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:24:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9KINxKB040645; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:23:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml) From: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" Message-Id: <200610201823.k9KINxKB040645@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: cswiger@mac.com (Chuck Swiger) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:23:59 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <691257EF-3060-450B-90DB-E82DE4CEDEB2@mac.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tunnels to Cisco through NAT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:24:12 -0000 > > On Oct 20, 2006, at 10:42 AM, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: > > Is anyone aware of a tunnel between FreeBSD and Cisco that > > can go through a NAT on the Cisco side? > > If you update the Cisco firmware with the latest IOS+VPN version, you > ought to gain proper NAT-T support which will work with most IPSEC/ > VPN implementations. Otherwise, if you only need to implement a > single VPN tunnel, you can use something like OpenVPN, which only > needs you to forward a single UDP port (1194)... > Hi, Thanks for the reply. I guess my question wasn't phrased exact enough... The long of it is that I have a low end Cisco router sitting at a location behind a consumer grade broadband router, connected to a satellite connection. The satellite does not allow direct TCP inbound connections, so anything I use has to be OpenVPN. I have a Soekris box with FreeBSD 5.5 running OpenVPN via UDP to a server in the datacenter, and it works fine and good. The issue is I want to set up another tunnel (The cisco is actually a 2509, 8 port serial. This new tunnel is for when the Soekris is down to be able to administer it via the serial port). So I'm looking for an application where if you want to think in reverse... The FreeBSD box needs to be able to get to the Cisco through a NAT (And only via UDP). Thanks, Tuc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 18:27:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3826116A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:27:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2027B43DA8 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:26:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9KIQBKj007570; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:26:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id k9KIQ5S4007565; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:26:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:26:05 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20061020182605.GA6770@thought.org> References: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> <20061018215708.GB93083@gothmog.pc> <20061019001443.GC3342@thought.org> <20061019193854.GC11212@thought.org> <20061019214725.GA1683@gothmog.pc> <20061020051000.GA2419@thought.org> <20061020120816.GA5512@gothmog.pc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061020120816.GA5512@gothmog.pc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:27:37 -0000 On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 03:08:16PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2006-10-19 22:10, Gary Kline wrote: > >On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 12:47:25AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >>On 2006-10-19 12:38, Gary Kline wrote: > >>>On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 05:22:44PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > > > [[ ... ]] > > > >>> I see an example as the equivalent of 10K words. > >> > >> I'll let Chuck write what he had in mind :) > >> > >>> Is there any way of testing this after I have set up my table > >>> entries? In other words, how do I re-initialize things without > >>> having to (ugh) *reboot*. > >> > >> If you modify `mailertable' in `/etc/mail', you should be able to run: > >> > >> # cd /etc/mail > >> # make mailertable.db > >> > >> to update it. A reboot is not necessary for Sendmail changes. > > > > For unknown reasons, mail started to be "refused" from my mailserver > > just as I was heading out this afternoon. It may have been a bad DHCP > > lease, ?? > > It's hard to guess without seeing the log file entries for the rejected > messages. Can you _please_ show us the logs, instead of describing the > results in broad terms? See appeneded. > > > Anyway, a make restart and other reinitializations didn't seem to > > work, so my next guess is that I didn't restart my maps, databases > > correctly. > > Maps are not 'restarted'. They are parsed to *.db files. > This is what I'd thought. I have a script that adds to access, then calls a script to create access.db. Another script does both access and virtusertable. No other database or map files are touched. > What does your `/etc/mail/HOSTNAME.mc' file contain? > > What do the map files referenced by it contain? I'm surprised that these files are referenced:: FEATURE(access_db, `hash -o -T /etc/mail/access') FEATURE(mailertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable') FEATURE(virtusertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable') > > How did you perform the `reinitializations' mentioned above? > Well, for years I have kill -9'd sendmail and then restarted it. This by a csh alias. From the /etc/mail/Makefile, it looks like I can do the same thing more correctly by Makefile. > > If I ever have enough courage to test these theories in the next 95 > > years, I'll know. Meanwhile, I've got to beg help from some REAL > > system admins here. > > I don't like 'REAL' in the above lines, but you are free to use whatever > you are more comfortable with. > I was not referring to anyone on this list! Sometimes I credit myself as the System Admin for thought.org, but the truth is that I'm barely a REAL system admin; that was the reason behind my quip. I don't even play a sysadmin on TV.... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix /* * several lines of mail being rejected yesterday afternoon */ 3929:Oct 19 13:08:56 sage sm-mta[8263]: k9JK8Jfs008260: makeconnection (tao.thought.org. [10.0.0.247]) failed: Connection refused by tao.thou ght.org. 3930:Oct 19 13:08:56 sage sm-mta[8263]: k9JK8Jfs008260: --- 050 ... Deferred: Connection refused by tao.thought.org. 3931:Oct 19 13:08:56 sage sm-mta[8263]: k9JK8Jfs008260: to=, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=87298, rel ay=tao.thought.org. [10.0.0.247], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by tao.thought.org. 3944:Oct 19 13:11:29 sage sm-mta[8283]: k9JKAurL008281: makeconnection (tao.thought.org. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 18:29:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0F616A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:29:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from bravo.pjkh.com (bravo.pjkh.com [72.36.232.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC8443D66 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:28:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from bravo.pjkh.com (bravo.pjkh.com [72.36.232.219]) by bravo.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B15713D76F; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:36:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bravo.pjkh.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D8FAF13D76E; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:36:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bravo.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7EB413D76D; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:36:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:36:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Philip Hallstrom To: Pete C In-Reply-To: <20061020134537.nsfybos19ccwkscg@webmail.secureserverdot.com> Message-ID: <20061020133506.M10965@bravo.pjkh.com> References: <20061020134537.nsfybos19ccwkscg@webmail.secureserverdot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: musicpd & kld sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:29:14 -0000 > I have an issue w/ mpd starting (trying to, anyway) before the kld for > sound loads up, which causes mpd to fail loading . . then I have to start mpd > at the command line. > > I would like to set up sound in the kernel, but I have Aureal 8810 based > sound on the MB and don't see a driver to use in the snd_"drvr" line > in the config file. > > is there a way to specify the order in which these items load ? > > any clues appreciated . . http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/audio/aureal-kmod/pkg-descr Should do it I think... been a long time since I used it, but I had a couple of turtle beach cards that were 88x0 somethings and it worked great. -philip From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 19:01:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211F416A4D8 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nospam@thechristies.net) Received: from utility.secureserverdot.com (utility.secureserverdot.com [216.14.208.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A0443DF0 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:59:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nospam@thechristies.net) Received: from utility.secureserverdot.com (localhost.successfulhosting.com [127.0.0.1]) by utility.secureserverdot.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9KIo35Y048667 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:50:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nospam@thechristies.net) Received: (from webmail@localhost) by utility.secureserverdot.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9KIo3b8048666 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:50:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nospam@thechristies.net) Received: from careywalshinc-careywalshinc-psr2104865.z136-94-67.customer.algx.net (careywalshinc-careywalshinc-psr2104865.z136-94-67.customer.algx.net [67.94.136.94]) by webmail.secureserverdot.com (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:50:03 -0400 Message-ID: <20061020145003.eyzh8t0izkgko8o8@webmail.secureserverdot.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:50:03 -0400 From: Pete C To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20061020134537.nsfybos19ccwkscg@webmail.secureserverdot.com> <20061020133506.M10965@bravo.pjkh.com> In-Reply-To: <20061020133506.M10965@bravo.pjkh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) / FreeBSD-6.1 X-Originating-IP: 67.94.136.94 Subject: Re: musicpd & kld sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:01:26 -0000 >> I have an issue w/ mpd starting (trying to, anyway) before the kld for >> sound loads up, which causes mpd to fail loading . . then I have to >> start mpd at the command line. >> >> I would like to set up sound in the kernel, but I have Aureal 8810 based >> sound on the MB and don't see a driver to use in the snd_"drvr" line >> in the config file. >> >> is there a way to specify the order in which these items load ? >> >> any clues appreciated . . > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/audio/aureal-kmod/pkg-descr > > Should do it I think... been a long time since I used it, but I had a > couple of turtle beach cards that were 88x0 somethings and it worked > great. > maybe I'm missing something . . I am using the aureal-kmod pkg you linked to, but thought it only works as a kernel module (ie: not compliled into the kernel) . . can I use this to compile a custom kernel ? how would I go about it ? thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 19:02:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E3D16A47C for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:02:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C13943EA0 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:01:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9KJ0gpf028123 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:00:47 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9KJ1Jou009190; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:01:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9KJ1JXw009189; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:01:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:01:19 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20061020190119.GB9135@gothmog.pc> References: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> <20061018215708.GB93083@gothmog.pc> <20061019001443.GC3342@thought.org> <20061019193854.GC11212@thought.org> <20061019214725.GA1683@gothmog.pc> <20061020051000.GA2419@thought.org> <20061020120816.GA5512@gothmog.pc> <20061020182605.GA6770@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061020182605.GA6770@thought.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.562, required 5, AWL -0.16, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:02:56 -0000 On 2006-10-20 11:26, Gary Kline wrote: > /* > * several lines of mail being rejected yesterday afternoon > */ > > 3929:Oct 19 13:08:56 sage sm-mta[8263]: k9JK8Jfs008260: makeconnection (tao.thought.org. [10.0.0.247]) failed: Connection refused by > tao.thou > ght.org. > 3930:Oct 19 13:08:56 sage sm-mta[8263]: k9JK8Jfs008260: --- 050 ... Deferred: Connection refused by > tao.thought.org. > 3931:Oct 19 13:08:56 sage sm-mta[8263]: k9JK8Jfs008260: to=, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=87298, relay=tao.thought.org. [10.0.0.247], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by tao.thought.org. > 3944:Oct 19 13:11:29 sage sm-mta[8283]: k9JKAurL008281: makeconnection (tao.thought.org. [10.0.0.247]) failed: Connection refused by tao.thought.org. Sendmail is not listening on all IP addressed of tao.thought.org. Can you show me the following: (a) The `/etc/rc.conf' settings related to Sendmail: tao# grep sendmail /etc/rc.conf (b) The listening sockets of Sendmail on `tao.thought.org': tao# sockstat -l4 | grep sendmail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 19:10:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6598E16A40F; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:10:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gamato@pobox.sk) Received: from exchange.cleverlance.com (exchange.cleverlance.com [82.119.241.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C788643D46; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:10:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamato@pobox.sk) Received: from [192.168.1.67] ([192.168.1.67]) by exchange.cleverlance.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:10:54 +0200 Message-ID: <45391F3E.9060307@pobox.sk> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:10:54 +0200 From: martinko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20061013 SeaMonkey/1.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: infofarmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2006 19:10:54.0909 (UTC) FILETIME=[777726D0:01C6F47B] Cc: Subject: fstab & (local) mount -- FreeBSD Port: sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:10:56 -0000 Hello, This is from CurlFtpFS FAQ: # *How can I make CurlFtpFS mount automatically at startup?* You can add it to /etc/fstab. Example: curlftpfs#ftp.host.com /mnt/host fuse rw,uid=500,user,noauto 0 0 However, it does not work on FreeBSD -- mount fails with this complain: mount: exec mount_fusefs not found in /sbin:/usr/sbin: No such file or directory Of course, we have it here: /usr/local/sbin/mount_fusefs Is there any workaround or could this be fixed/amended somehow pls ?? Cheers, Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 19:24:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE46816A415 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:24:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68D4843DE9 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:23:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 27601 invoked by uid 399); 20 Oct 2006 19:23:05 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?156.154.4.96?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Oct 2006 19:23:05 -0000 Message-ID: <45392217.9070006@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:23:03 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: martinko References: <4538884A.5080303@pobox.sk> In-Reply-To: <4538884A.5080303@pobox.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions , ale@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: priority of make/ports options (?) -- FreeBSD Port: sysutils/portconf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:24:15 -0000 martinko wrote: > Hello, > > I'm using portconf to set ports' knobs. Also I'm setting some general > knobs via make.conf. > > Now I've run into this situation: > - i've got WITH_GECKO=seamonkey in /etc/make.conf > - yelp from new gnome 2.16 does not build with knob above. therefore in > /usr/local/etc/ports.conf i set: > x11/yelp: WITH_MAN | WITH_INFO | USE_GECKO=xulrunner > Unfortunately it does not work as I intended -- when I `portinstall > gnome2-lite` it tries to build yelp WITH_GECKO=seamonkey. :-/ > > How can I solve this pls ?? > How can I specify a general knob and then override it for some ports ? Don't set global knobs in make.conf. Set them in ports.conf like this: *: WITH_GECKO=seamonkey x11/yelp: WITH_MAN | WITH_INFO | USE_GECKO=xulrunner That should give you the precedence that you need. hth, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 19:35:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA4316A6A8; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:35:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chinhngt@sectorb.msk.ru) Received: from hq.sectorb.msk.ru (petaflop.b.gz.ru [194.88.210.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E4A43E3C; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:33:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chinhngt@sectorb.msk.ru) Received: from it.local (it.local [172.16.20.8]) by hq.sectorb.msk.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B602DEA; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:33:26 +0400 (MSD) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:33:43 +0400 (MSD) From: Nguyen Tam Chinh X-X-Sender: chinhngt@it.hackers To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061020231342.O953@it.hackers> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6-STABLE Keywords: 216091683 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Python memory allocator: Free memory (fwd) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:35:37 -0000 Hello, I really don't know whether this is a good idea to forward this message to ports@ and questions@. I wrote to freebsd-python@ but there's no reply so far. So this is the problem description: I noticed that the free memory function patch (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1123430&group_id=5470&atid=305470) was included in Python-2.5. I built the Python-2.5 port in FreeBSD (6.2-PRELENG, latest ports tree) but the problem with free allocated memory still exists. Do you have any information about this case? The feature seems to work in GNU/Linux and Windows. Thank you all for your attention. ----- With best regards, | The Power to Serve Nguyen Tam Chinh | http://www.FreeBSD.org Loc: sp.cs.msu.su | _______________________________________________ freebsd-python@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-python To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-python-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 19:44:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AEDF16A492 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from bravo.pjkh.com (bravo.pjkh.com [72.36.232.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F6A43DC0 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:42:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from bravo.pjkh.com (bravo.pjkh.com [72.36.232.219]) by bravo.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07E213D5EA; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:49:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bravo.pjkh.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 97B3613D56F; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:49:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bravo.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AB713CD57; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:49:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:49:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Philip Hallstrom To: Pete C In-Reply-To: <20061020145003.eyzh8t0izkgko8o8@webmail.secureserverdot.com> Message-ID: <20061020144816.W10965@bravo.pjkh.com> References: <20061020134537.nsfybos19ccwkscg@webmail.secureserverdot.com> <20061020133506.M10965@bravo.pjkh.com> <20061020145003.eyzh8t0izkgko8o8@webmail.secureserverdot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: musicpd & kld sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:44:57 -0000 > >>> I have an issue w/ mpd starting (trying to, anyway) before the kld for >>> sound loads up, which causes mpd to fail loading . . then I have to start >>> mpd at the command line. >>> >>> I would like to set up sound in the kernel, but I have Aureal 8810 based >>> sound on the MB and don't see a driver to use in the snd_"drvr" line >>> in the config file. >>> >>> is there a way to specify the order in which these items load ? >>> >>> any clues appreciated . . > >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/audio/aureal-kmod/pkg-descr >> >> Should do it I think... been a long time since I used it, but I had a >> couple of turtle beach cards that were 88x0 somethings and it worked >> great. >> > > maybe I'm missing something . . I am using the aureal-kmod pkg you linked to, > but thought it only works as a kernel module (ie: not compliled into the > kernel) . . can I use this to compile a custom kernel ? how would I go about > it ? No it's me... I read your message wrong. You could change the startup script for mpd to parse the output of kldstat to determine if it's loaded and if not, sleep awhile... -philip From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 19:50:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FF716A40F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:50:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@endries.org) Received: from www.endries.org (www.endries.org [216.230.164.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9441243D8C for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:48:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@endries.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.endries.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.endries.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C5DA6651C for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:48:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at endries.org Received: from www.endries.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.endries.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with LMTP id YqaFvYFHh24p for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.203] (host-64-246-146-151.ubr0.alb1.inoc.net [64.246.146.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.endries.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0918EA66514 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:48:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <453927DD.6070701@endries.org> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:47:41 -0400 From: Josh Endries User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061010) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problems booting on a Compaq DL360 (P21 version) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:50:01 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I recently got two of these old machines used. One installed and runs fine, but the other... I've been working on it for three days now and I can't get it to boot. I can install just fine from the CD (using 6.1-R), but upon reboot it goes past the RAID init and gets to a blank screen with only _ in the top-left corner, beeps twice, and sits there. The "good" machine does beeps also, but continues booting. This one sits there for a few minutes and then gives me a "non-system disk" error; it doesn't seem to find anything to boot from. I've tried resetting the dip switch for configuration and doing the "system erase" and using the SmartStart CD to initialize it before installing. It wants to know which OS when I do this and I've tried Linux, Windows 2000 Server and Other, and none of them work... I haven't gone through all the (dozens of) options. The RAID array seems to work, no disk problems writing during install and nothing reported in the SmartStart utility. I've read threads about ACPI problems with 6.0 but I don't think I'm even getting that far. :( I tried taking the two disks from the working machine and putting them into the non-working one and it didn't work, I still get the _ screen and it doesn't move on from there. I'm installing simply by using A for auto-slices and A for auto-filesystems and installing the standard MBR. Has anyone seen this or successfully installed on a DL360 (g1 I think, P21 BIOS)? If so, is there a certain setting, OS or otherwise, that I might need to do? Thanks, Josh -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFOSfdV/+PyAj2L+IRApfRAKCG/sv2EHVF6/CqJ5m/qWp/N0S7hwCeLeqb J8PyjnftvHo1dNXDwF1tBuc= =BHT/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 19:52:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5D016A4E5 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from ecluster5.tls.net (ecluster5.tls.net [65.196.224.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60F9F43D53 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:51:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 7014 invoked by uid 89); 20 Oct 2006 19:49:59 -0000 Received: from 64-184-9-181.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.103?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.9.181) by auth-ecluster5.tls.net with SMTP; 20 Oct 2006 19:49:59 -0000 Message-ID: <4539289E.4040404@pixelhammer.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:50:54 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freeBSD References: <20061020162119.49001.qmail@web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <45390333.4020007@pixelhammer.com> In-Reply-To: <45390333.4020007@pixelhammer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: rm command problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:52:43 -0000 DAve wrote: > Efren Bravo wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Accidentally I've created a file called -exclude >> and now I cann't delete it. >> >> I tried with: >> >> rm -exclude and rm *exclude but it returns this: >> >> rm: illegal option -- - >> usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dIPRrvW] file ... >> unlink file >> >> How can I delete it? > > You have probably found that anything you try errors because the shell > thinks -e is a switch. The easiest way is to find the files inode number > and delete the file using that. > > director# ls -i > 107008 .bash_history 107760 .login 107759 .mail_aliases > 107764 .profile 107765 .shrc > 107758 .cshrc 107761 .login_conf 107762 .mailrc 107763 > .rhosts > > then use find to remove the file. > > director# find . -inum 107763 -exec rm -i {} \; > remove ./.rhosts? y > > This works for all manner of funky file names. I had done that many > times before, generally from not reading man pages and passing switches > to programs that didn't expect it, or by piping commands incorrectly. > > DAve Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Oct 20, 2006, at 9:21 AM, Efren Bravo wrote: >> Accidentally I've created a file called -exclude >> and now I cann't delete it. > > Try: > > rm -- -exclude > See, just like I said. I got into trouble a long time ago by not reading man pages, and discovered I could delete by inode. I've done it that way from habit since. *Had I read the man pages back then* I would have known about rm -- ;^) I read all manner of man pages, README, CHANGES, and INSTALL docs now before I do anything new. John Polstra from SeaBug gently chided me into that habit until I caught on. DAve -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 19:56:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938D216A494; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gamato@pobox.sk) Received: from exchange.cleverlance.com (exchange.cleverlance.com [82.119.241.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751C943DD2; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:55:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamato@pobox.sk) Received: from [192.168.1.67] ([192.168.1.67]) by exchange.cleverlance.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:55:30 +0200 Message-ID: <453929B1.4090209@pobox.sk> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:55:29 +0200 From: martinko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20061013 SeaMonkey/1.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton References: <4538884A.5080303@pobox.sk> <45392217.9070006@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <45392217.9070006@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2006 19:55:30.0334 (UTC) FILETIME=[B2249BE0:01C6F481] Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions , ale@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: priority of make/ports options (?) -- FreeBSD Port: sysutils/portconf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:56:22 -0000 Doug Barton wrote: > martinko wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm using portconf to set ports' knobs. Also I'm setting some general >> knobs via make.conf. >> >> Now I've run into this situation: >> - i've got WITH_GECKO=seamonkey in /etc/make.conf >> - yelp from new gnome 2.16 does not build with knob above. therefore in >> /usr/local/etc/ports.conf i set: >> x11/yelp: WITH_MAN | WITH_INFO | USE_GECKO=xulrunner >> Unfortunately it does not work as I intended -- when I `portinstall >> gnome2-lite` it tries to build yelp WITH_GECKO=seamonkey. :-/ >> >> How can I solve this pls ?? >> How can I specify a general knob and then override it for some ports ? > > Don't set global knobs in make.conf. Set them in ports.conf like this: > > *: WITH_GECKO=seamonkey > x11/yelp: WITH_MAN | WITH_INFO | USE_GECKO=xulrunner > > That should give you the precedence that you need. > > hth, > > Doug > Doug, thank you for the idea! Meanwhile, when I was going to check it, I found out that I mistyped (originally) my knob -- it should be WITH_GECKO=xulrunner (not USE_GECKO) -- and it works now, too! :-) Anyway, I'm going to move port related knobs from make.conf to ports.conf (which wasn't available at the time I populated my make.conf). With regards, Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 19:58:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E955816A416 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:58:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: from thing.verysmall.org (thing.verysmall.org [212.100.226.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FEC43D92 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:58:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: from [130.83.72.99] (x99.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.72.99]) by thing.verysmall.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726392287D for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:53:10 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <45392A68.5010904@verysmall.org> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:58:32 +0200 From: "pobox@verysmall.org" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: csup does not exist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:58:44 -0000 Hello, I have the latest csup (csup-20060318) on FreeBSD 5.4 and -L2 shows that it freezes after 'Shutting down connection to server'. ps shows STAT I+ and sometimes S+ (after the point of freeze). Neither kill nor Ctrl-C can interrupt it. csup exits on its own after 10-15 min. with 'Finished successfully'. Could somebody help me find the reason/fix it. Thanks, Iv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 20:26:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C9116A40F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@bsam.ru) Received: from mail.kuban.ru (mail.kuban.ru [62.183.66.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D9A43E30 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:18:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsam@bsam.ru) Received: from bsam.ru ([83.239.48.147]) by mail.kuban.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id k9KKHrtM097102 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:18:03 +0400 (MSD) Received: from bsam by bsam.ru with local (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Gb0ni-0000Ni-Vy for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:17:06 +0400 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20061020141504.GD859@dell> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:17:06 +0400 In-Reply-To: <20061020141504.GD859@dell> (William Bulley's message of "Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:15:04 -0400") Message-ID: <56706957@bsam.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Boris Samorodov Subject: Re: problems with libglade2... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:26:11 -0000 On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:15:04 -0400 William Bulley wrote: > I am trying to run a Linux binary under FreeBSD Linux compatibility > mode (linux_base-fc-4_9) on 6.2-PRERELEASE. > The error I get is: > error while loading shared libraries: /usr/X11R6/lib/libglade-2.0.so.0: ELF file OS ABI invalid A FreeBSD library is found instead of a linux one. > freebsd% pkg_info | grep -i glade > libglade2-2.6.0 GNOME glade library Seems that you didn't install devel/linux-libglade port. > freebsd% ldd foobah > foobah: > foobah: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/X11R6/lib/libglade-2.0.so.0: ELF file OS ABI invalid > foobah: exit status 127 > freebsd% file foobah > foobah: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped > freebsd% file /usr/X11R6/lib/libglade-2.0.so.0 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libglade-2.0.so.0: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), not stripped > According to the "foobah" README: > Executable is tested to work with: > OS: Fedora Core 3, Suse 9.2 > Platform: i386, Athlon, i686 > What am I missing? What steps (short of tossing the whole idea out) > should I take to successfully run the Linux binary "foobah"? Thanks. I didn't find foobah at the ports tree. Are you porting it? If so, check out that all linux packages this program depends on are installed. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 20:31:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9B016A4AB for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96F043FC3 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:23:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Gb0u9-000I6S-U7; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:23:46 +0200 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:23:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Zbigniew Szalbot X-X-Sender: zbyszek@192.168.11.51 To: Kurt Buff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20061020221439.V69505@192.168.11.51> References: <20061020164010.U62717@192.168.11.51> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: monitoring lan->wan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:31:14 -0000 Hi all, On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Kurt Buff wrote: > If you wish to characterize the traffic to and from the Internet by > protocol and/or user, then you'll have to do something more than > simply using SNMP to monitor throughput on the router. In that case, > you'll need to have your FreeBSD box actually parse the traffic, or > get a netflow from the router (assuming that it can do that.) and ntop > is a good start for the software you want, or perhaps etherape. > Assuming that netflow isn't available from the router (and I think > that's a fairly safe bet) the trick will be making sure that your > FreeBSD box will see the traffic, and for that you'll need something > like one of the following setups: All I can do with the router is to enable logging to a syslog, which means I can connect it to FBSD, can't I? But I understand now that things will be a little more difficult than I thought :). Anyway, thanks for all the pointers! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 20:32:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2AD16A4EC; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:32:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D1043DDD; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:25:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9KKNIWq067372; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:23:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9KKNIxJ067371; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:23:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:23:18 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: martinko Message-ID: <20061020202318.GA67333@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <45391F3E.9060307@pobox.sk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45391F3E.9060307@pobox.sk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fstab & (local) mount -- FreeBSD Port: sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:32:48 -0000 On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 09:10:54PM +0200, martinko wrote: > Hello, > > This is from CurlFtpFS FAQ: > > # *How can I make CurlFtpFS mount automatically at startup?* > You can add it to /etc/fstab. Example: > > curlftpfs#ftp.host.com /mnt/host fuse rw,uid=500,user,noauto 0 0 > > > However, it does not work on FreeBSD -- mount fails with this complain: > mount: exec mount_fusefs not found in /sbin:/usr/sbin: No such file or > directory > > Of course, we have it here: /usr/local/sbin/mount_fusefs > > Is there any workaround or could this be fixed/amended somehow pls ?? Looks like you need to add /usr/local/sbin to your path. ////jerry > > Cheers, > > Martin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 20:35:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877EB16A531 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@daemonsecurity.com) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8216E43E1F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:29:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@daemonsecurity.com) Received: from [10.35.4.65] (65.4-35-10-static.chueca.wifi [10.35.4.65]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2E42E024; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:29:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <45393135.6070907@daemonsecurity.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:27:33 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard Organization: Daemon Security User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: <200610131712.46822.freebsd@alaskaparadise.com><4530DA30.7060004@locolomo.org><001c01c6eff4$f77cd590$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645><453211C9.8030102@locolomo.org><000001c6f1c1$c55e46b0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <4534A0D8.2070909@locolomo.org> <003401c6f419$4d2dba40$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> In-Reply-To: <003401c6f419$4d2dba40$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010802010100000703060209" Cc: Beech Rintoul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Non English Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:35:30 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010802010100000703060209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> Also this means that later filtering on the first Received field is >> double work: You already accepted the mail based on that information. >> >> In short: Writing header filtering rules for the Received field is >> simply waste of time and proof of inefficiency. > > I agree with this but unfortunately the real world often screws this up. > > For example, SpamCop is one of the most effective blacklists on the > Internet because of it's high user participation. Unfortunately, it > repeatedly blocks yahoomail, craigslist, and ebay because spammers > hate it and try to stuff it up so as to get people to stop using it. You can't check the white list before using RBL in Sendmail? Well, you can with postfix, you can even control if checks should be done when the entire envelope is received or when the connection is established. Maybe postfix isn't that crappy after all :) Of course, maintaining white lists is only practically possible for a limited number of hosts. >> OP requested a way to filter away the spam in foreign character sets >> because for some reason these were not caught by Spam Assassin or >> procmail. I gave a solution that solves that problem, and I mentioned >> the problem of false negatives for this list. >> >> Rather than get pissed, do try to offer an alternative solution to a >> real problem. > > There really is no solution. Fundamentally, well written spam is > not distinguishable from non-spam by a computer. What has saved our asses > so > far is that there's not a spammer alive who has been able to resist the > temptation > to use bold, colors, blinking test, hot phrases, and other attention-getting > devices in their spams. Since you can program a computer to look for the > attention getting stuff, what has happened is a little social engineering. True - or the reverse, that novice users will send their birthday invitation with flags and colors etc so you can't naively reject html mail. > Frankly, I think there is no technical solution, I think there are only > political solutions. We've already made spam illegal in the US, and > the CAN-SPAM act defines the "advertised" party in the spams > also as a spammer, in addition to the actual spammer sending the > stuff. Actually, I do think there is a technical solution, but the problem is that the cost of implementation is at the senders end, and the cost of spam is at recipients end. The political action needed is to move the cost onto the senders end - I'm not talking about adding a cost for sending individual mails but moving liability: You are responsible for what you send. Basically, it's like for cars: You have an insurance for your car, even if a thief steals it your insurance covers accidents that the car may be involved in. Once liability moves to the source, anyone upstream in the the mail delivery will make sure that they can pass on liability to someone further up, and if they can't, they will implement the controls to limit illicit mailing to reduce the risk. >> I asked politely if there were any consensus or best practices etc. on >> this issue. You have the regular mail on "how to get the best results" >> there are recommendations on how to use this list, they are not enforced >> but only serve as guidelines. >> >> I don't try to force people to use particular character sets, I merely >> ask whether such recommendation exist for "the best results when using >> the list", in which case filtering on charsets may be the least >> imperfect solution (until you share your perfect filter, that is). > > Your continuing to try to muddy the issue by inferring that personal > filters are the same as requirements to post. No, my idea is that if there is consensus that subscribers should post in say ASCII for the best results, then one could more reasonably filter other character sets because these are unlikely to occur. And, since foreign character sets are associated with language, other subscribers sharing language could take care of that off list - just as if someone writes in a foreign language. > You snipped all my explanation of what the differences are and responded > with a snotty request for a perfect filter, when I never said I ever had > one. I snipped, not to be rude, but because I felt you were getting emotional. > As I already stated, what people do on their own mailserver is their > business. If they want to filter Asian charsets, then fine. Go ahead. > But, telling people they can't use them when posting to the list is > crossing the line. > > Certainly a "best results when using the list" document is a good thing. > But, that is a recommendation, not a requirement. The response that > got me pissed was speculating that the list server should filter on Asian > charsets, > and we should order, not recommend, to > people that they don't use Asian charsets. I'm glad to see your > backwatering from that. I never intended to imply that the FreeBSD list server should filter messages more than is done now. If you would go back to my first post I ask: "What is the recommended policy here? Should subscribers be advised to change character set when posting to the list?" There is nothing here that implies that I want to the FreeBSD server to filter, nor that I want to prohibit postings in other character sets. Rather I wanted to ask if charsets was or should be on the "best results" recommendation as in "you will possibly get a higher response rate by posting in English using US-ASCII or western European character sets". If so, then one can also better justify filtering on character sets even though some legitimate mails may be rejected. Further taken in context, it is clear that there are recipients who do or wants to implement filters that filter on character sets. No one but you mentioned the FreeBSD server. With all respect, I think the misinterpretation is all yours. 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E777144007 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:29:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so1081685wxc for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:29:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KWlybKaPWaUblhJP8kl3RGG8yiDrlMp8qo+S4lMSzcJAOGNXT71Dno10dZoHqf8EHoqVuqwB9s9X6byWw65E7dF2ZI4pt+zpbBBcX3sr5hc31zhyNLCqNevFkB6M4vjQe8f+0vzX16cBCja7Mg95MNVDwchbCzAaMuIV++jeIck= Received: by 10.70.91.16 with SMTP id o16mr1465743wxb; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.130.20 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:29:52 -0700 From: "Kurt Buff" To: "Zbigniew Szalbot" In-Reply-To: <20061020221439.V69505@192.168.11.51> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061020164010.U62717@192.168.11.51> <20061020221439.V69505@192.168.11.51> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: monitoring lan->wan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:35:33 -0000 On 10/20/06, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hi all, > > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Kurt Buff wrote: > > > If you wish to characterize the traffic to and from the Internet by > > protocol and/or user, then you'll have to do something more than > > simply using SNMP to monitor throughput on the router. In that case, > > you'll need to have your FreeBSD box actually parse the traffic, or > > get a netflow from the router (assuming that it can do that.) and ntop > > is a good start for the software you want, or perhaps etherape. > > Assuming that netflow isn't available from the router (and I think > > that's a fairly safe bet) the trick will be making sure that your > > FreeBSD box will see the traffic, and for that you'll need something > > like one of the following setups: > > All I can do with the router is to enable logging to a syslog, which means > I can connect it to FBSD, can't I? > > But I understand now that things will be a little more difficult than I > thought :). Anyway, thanks for all the pointers! syslog <> SNMP. Monitoring traffic by parsing syslog messages seems unlikely at best, but you'll want to tak a look at some samplings of your syslog messages to be sure. I'm not aware of any programs that do that, which is not to say that they don't exist, just that I don't know about them. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 20:35:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C975016A66D for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:35:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: from thing.verysmall.org (thing.verysmall.org [212.100.226.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D70943E7A for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:33:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: from [130.83.72.99] (x99.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.72.99]) by thing.verysmall.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08D32282F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:27:36 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4539327E.8000607@verysmall.org> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:33:02 +0200 From: "pobox@verysmall.org" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: csup does not exit (was with typo: csup does not exist) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:35:43 -0000 Hello, I have the latest csup (csup-20060318) on FreeBSD 5.4 and -L2 shows that it freezes after 'Shutting down connection to server'. ps shows STAT I+ and sometimes S+ (after the point of freeze). Neither kill nor Ctrl-C can interrupt it. Ctrl-C works only after 10-15 min. The csup exits with 'Finished successfully'. Could somebody help me find the reason/fix it. Thanks, Iv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 20:39:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45BB16A4C9 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpenev@mnet.bg) Received: from home.mnet.bg (home.mnet.bg [84.43.191.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F47843DE3 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:38:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dpenev@mnet.bg) Received: from localhost (home [127.0.0.1]) by home.mnet.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8731783164; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:38:25 +0300 (EEST) Received: from home.mnet.bg ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (home [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11837-03-99; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:38:24 +0300 (EEST) Received: from venus.dp.local (cable-84-43-158-170.mnet.bg [84.43.158.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by home.mnet.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3265383137; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:38:24 +0300 (EEST) Received: from earth.dp.local (earth [192.168.11.1]) by venus.dp.local (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9KKbMYM001009; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:37:46 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from dpenev@mnet.bg) From: Dancho Penev To: Brian Hawk Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:37:21 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <45391895.8010507@tnetus.com> In-Reply-To: <45391895.8010507@tnetus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610202337.21893.dpenev@mnet.bg> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at mnet.bg Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gateway problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:39:57 -0000 I'm moving this thread to "freebsd-questions" because it's the appropriate place for such questions. On Friday 20 October 2006 21:42, Brian Hawk wrote: > I'm having a strange situation for quite sometime. I have two external > interfaces one of which is an ADSL interface tun0 and obtains IP address > dynamically and the other is a (xl1) leased line which has a static > global IP address, lets say 212.64.212.180. Both interfaces access > internet without any problem. > > Recently I've configured qmail on this system to send out email thru xl1 > interface and use ADSL only for web traffic. It used to work quite good > for a while but recently I noticed TCP packets have been going out from > tun0 and responses coming in thru xl1. tun0 and ADSL is the default > gateway. But the TCP packets are bound to 212.64.212.180 IP address > which should send them out thru xl1. But it doesn't. No, you are wrong. Packet will be forwarded to default gateway through the interface which is on same network with it. You need some kind of policy routing. I'm not very familiar with ipf but with pf you can do: pass out on $ext_if0 route-to ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1) inet from $ext_if1 to any pass out on $ext_if1 route-to ($ext_if0 $ext_gw0) inet from $ext_if0 to any or with ipfw you can use "fwd" rule action. > > For the test, I did these > > tcpdump -nt -i xl1 tcp & > telnet -s 212.64.212.180 smtp.tnet.com 25 > > connection establishes but I can see only the TCP response packets > coming from xl1, like the following > > x.y.z.t > 212.64.212.180 > x.y.z.t > 212.64.212.180 > > All from external IPs to my xl1 int. No packets going out from xl1 they > all go thru default gateway even if TCP connections are bound to xl1's > IP address. > > I'd like to know if anybody knows why this happened and I can I turn > things back the way they were. Any help would be much appreciated. > > My configuration is like this; > > FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE > ipf: IP Filter: v3.4.35 (336) > Kernel: IP Filter: v3.4.35 > ipfw has no rules; allow ip from any to any > there's also a transparent proxy setup for squid > > #~>netstat -rn > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > default 88.234.8.1 UGS 0 78722302 tun0 > 10/24 link#1 UC 0 0 rl0 => > 10 10.1.1.222 UGS 0 26233 xl0 > 10.0.0.99 link#1 UHLW 0 4 rl0 > 10.1.1/24 link#2 UC 0 0 xl0 > 10.1.1.13 00:50:8d:ed:88:94 UHLW 0 1876 xl0 1118 > 10.1.1.222 00:01:02:df:c1:19 UHLW 1 689 lo0 > 10.1.1.225 00:b0:d0:20:b7:9e UHLW 0 96690 xl0 706 > 88.234.8.1 88.234.14.26 UH 1 0 tun0 > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 2305904 lo0 > 192.168.0/16 link#3 UCS 0 0 xl1 > 212.64.212.176 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff UHLWb 0 15 xl1 => > 212.64.212.176/29 link#3 UC 0 0 xl1 > 212.64.212.180 00:04:76:9b:3d:f8 UHLW 0 125 lo0 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Dancho Penev From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 21:12:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5155516A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from cprobd02.vailsys.com (cprobd02.vailsys.com [63.210.102.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8001B43D49 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:12:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dfsfbd06.vail (dfsfbd06.vail [192.168.129.190]) by cprobd02.vailsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5D7CE4F2 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:12:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dfwdamian.vail [192.168.129.233]) by dfsfbd06.vail (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87EC6323E8A for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:12:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dwiest@localhost.vail [127.0.0.1]) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9KLCtLV026448 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:12:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dwiest@localhost) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9KLCtfk010212 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:12:55 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dfwdamian.vail: dwiest set sender to dwiest@vailsys.com using -f Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:12:55 -0500 From: Damian Wiest To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061020211255.GA29479@dfwdamian.vail> References: <200610171801.44321.amistry@am-productions.biz> <200610180209.00047.amistry@am-productions.biz> <20061018184431.GA23349@dfwdamian.vail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: Re: Problems with USB Palm sync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:12:57 -0000 On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 09:25:19AM -0400, Jonathan Arnold wrote: [snip] > Thanks for all your help here! When I first read this, I said to myself > that > it wouldn't help, that I've tried all these various permutations. Imagine > my > surprise when it *did* work! I will post a complete followup on my blog, but > I did have to load the 'uvisor' driver to get this process to work: > > # kldload uvisor > > Which I'm sure I played with before, but now it works. Now I am just > struggling > to get my Palm, which was recently hard-reset, back to where it was a few > months > ago. I have the data on my hard drive, but I can't seem to figure out the > magical > incantation to move it over to the Palm. It is in JPilot, but I haven't > quite > gotten that to work smoothly. Be extremely careful with this. I was in the exact same situation and managed to wipe out my local Palm data doing a restore. My phone (actually all of the Palm devices I've owned) tends to crash pretty frequently and require hard resets, which wipes out the username and all stored data. In order for J-Pilot to sync with the device, it's going to want the usernames to match between the two. Do _not_ use the File->Restore_Handheld command in J-Pilot to reset the username on the phone. I had an older version of J-Pilot installed and when I did this (only selecting to restore Preferences) and watched as my local data was replaced, not merged, with the data from the phone. Instead, use File->Install_User. I'd recommend that you sync devices daily and also keep backups of the Palm files on your computer. Also, keeping hardcopy backups is a good idea. > >I know I shouldn't be running the apps as root, but I haven't bothered > >to configure /etc/devd.conf and /etc/devfs.rules on my laptop. > > I've played with this a bit and it is a little weird. Again, I hope to > have a full > report on my blog some day real soon. > > And thanks for your (and Anish's) help. Learned a lot about run-time > devices! > > -- > Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) > Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: > http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ > > UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. I'm glad I could be of assistance. -Damian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 21:33:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39D816A4EF for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonakis@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B1443E47 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:31:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from antonakis@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id k3so413469ugf for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:30:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=j2SOKZc6lYyly0RORpqwxue+V8vFcs47A6AKMIFMsTB0UDuEvqtuMlpWo6kvCftW4iCx+oVjNh04L5hnn8uNmomK5X0qOibLVpaddIBGGL0xV/WRBMDIi1twgIixbErrRnMM6EGmvKyoAhH5eZKNDCT9T6tEk/SKysq1T/R47UE= Received: by 10.78.128.15 with SMTP id a15mr2762380hud; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.171.17 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <655a934b0610201430r41349f44jaa1a783972fcde85@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:30:58 +0300 From: "Antonios Anastasiadis" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: binary blobs in freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:33:07 -0000 Hello. I am thinking about using FreeBSD in various places, however before I do that it would be comfortable to know what binary blobs it includes in any part of the system, be it binary daemon, binary driver etc. Two I am aware of are the Atheros Hal and an Adaptec RAID driver. I did not find any definitive resource of some kind anywhere, hence the question here. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 21:33:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7C916A4CE for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:33:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptroot@iaces.com) Received: from iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C995C43E98 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:32:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ptroot@iaces.com) Received: from [204.147.87.125] (gemini.iaces.com [204.147.87.125]) by iaces.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9KLW0NS003572 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:32:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ptroot@iaces.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <7053053B-DC08-4C89-A448-D4D17A65B76E@iaces.com> From: Paul Root Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:31:51 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: CD install on new Dell Dimension E521 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:33:41 -0000 I just got a Dimension e521 that I'm going to install FreeBSD on. I'm having some trouble. I've tried the 6.1-RELEASE i386 DVD, I've downloaded the 6.1-Release CD iso for AMD64 I've downloaded the 6.2-Beta2 CD (today 10/20) for AMD64. All give the same error: panic: ohci_add_done: addr 0x3bef1ba0 not found This is a AMD Athlon 64 x2, 3800, 1 gig, 160gb, no PS/2 keyboard only USB. 6 usb ports. The screen blanks before I can write down everything. Since I can't stop it by hitting the keyboard. The keyboard has the following as part of it's dag: atkbdc0: (keyboard controller i8042) on port 0x60 0x64 Something like that. Any words of wisdom? Thanks, Paul. Paul Root ptroot@iaces.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 21:47:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C39316A416 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:47:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cokyazici@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from web25216.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25216.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.176.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6EFED43DFE for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:45:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cokyazici@yahoo.co.uk) Received: (qmail 36879 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Oct 2006 21:45:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qiOk21kvAkAOcTPCeM+MqwIh9ZS+UC43eDDoLwaUJMIG7YtadIrFBS1pbrRni7VnqH238uxIkKZj/g8lo/kT3CU7D1zATWGEe4Sm5zHfLSBT+QMauejzArCTHTr9bx6UL1Bam0iJeagRC9soR6QsJAUdL/30V990RGaR6YTrcQI= ; Message-ID: <20061020214528.36877.qmail@web25216.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [87.194.57.229] by web25216.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:45:28 BST Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:45:28 +0100 (BST) From: COKYAZICI To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Problems with SATA 2 hard disk while installing FreeBSD 6.1 RELEASE AMD 64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:47:53 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.1 RELEASE AMD 64 on a new computer I bought, it has a ECS C51GM motherboard, with one SATA 2 hard disk, and an AMD Athlon 64 4200+ X2 on socket AM2. When I boot with the install CD, it crashes before starting the sysinstall, just after it finishes showing the details about the DVD writer, which I presume happens when it's checking for hard disks. I managed to get sysinstall to start when I booted it up in safe mode, but then when I tried to install FreeBSD, it said no hard disks detected. I hope someone can help me to figure out how to install FreeBSD 6.1 RELEASE AMD 64. Here are more details about the motherboard: Motherboard Name: ECS C51GM Chipset Name NVIDIA GeForce 6100 & nForce 410 CPU Socket Type Socket AM2 Form Factor Micro ATX CPU Compatibility All AMD Socket AM2 Memory FSB DDR2 667/533 Memory Slots 2 Max Memory 16GB PCI 16X 1 PCI 1X 1 PCI 2 Integrated Graphics Geforce 6100 based 2d/3d engine IDE 2 UltraDMA 133/100/66 Connectors SATA 2 RAID Level Raid 0,1 Support Audio Realtek AL655 6-channel audio LAN Broadcom AC131 10/100 USB 2 internal, 4 external USB Speed 2.0 ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 22:08:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5BE16A407 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:08:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from achilles.leela.ws (achilles.leela.ws [66.207.162.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0261243D69 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:08:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.0.193] ([158.145.111.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by achilles.leela.ws (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9KM8Ob0015978 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:08:24 -0800 (AKDT) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Message-ID: <453948D7.6020602@mac.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:08:23 -0800 From: "Peter A. Giessel" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Macintosh/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: COKYAZICI References: <20061020214528.36877.qmail@web25216.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20061020214528.36877.qmail@web25216.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with SATA 2 hard disk while installing FreeBSD 6.1 RELEASE AMD 64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:08:34 -0000 On 2006/10/20 13:45, COKYAZICI seems to have typed: > Chipset Name > NVIDIA GeForce 6100 & nForce 410 With FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE AMD 64, this was reported: *** QUOTE *** Biostar GeForce 6100-M9 nForce 410 + GeForce 6100 / Socket 939 Vikash 6.0-RELEASE On-board ethernet controller is not detected. ATA controller is marked as generic and works at ATA33 highest. *** END QUOTE *** See: http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html You might have to use a supported SATA card... I don't see any more recent reports of that chipset being used, although there are two that report a nVidia nForce 410 / Socket 754 chipset, and both say: *** QUOTE *** On-board ethernet and audio chips are not supported. *** END QUOTE *** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 22:22:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E3E16A40F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@tnetus.com) Received: from k2smtpout02-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (k2smtpout02-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.189.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4F6643D58 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:22:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@tnetus.com) Received: (qmail 28868 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2006 22:22:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tnetus.com) (68.178.207.93) by k2smtpout02-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.189.91) with SMTP; 20 Oct 2006 22:22:42 -0000 Received: from [10.1.1.134] ([85.103.13.208]) by tnetus.com with hMailServer ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:22:37 -0700 Message-ID: <45394C2A.8090205@tnetus.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:22:34 +0300 From: Brian Hawk User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45391895.8010507@tnetus.com> <200610202337.21893.dpenev@mnet.bg> In-Reply-To: <200610202337.21893.dpenev@mnet.bg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dancho Penev Subject: Re: Gateway problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:22:45 -0000 On Friday 20 October 2006 21:42, Brian Hawk wrote: >> I'm having a strange situation for quite sometime. I have two external >> interfaces one of which is an ADSL interface tun0 and obtains IP address >> dynamically and the other is a (xl1) leased line which has a static >> global IP address, lets say 212.64.212.180. Both interfaces access >> internet without any problem. >> >> Recently I've configured qmail on this system to send out email thru xl1 >> interface and use ADSL only for web traffic. It used to work quite good >> for a while but recently I noticed TCP packets have been going out from >> tun0 and responses coming in thru xl1. tun0 and ADSL is the default >> gateway. But the TCP packets are bound to 212.64.212.180 IP address >> which should send them out thru xl1. But it doesn't. >> > No, you are wrong. Packet will be forwarded to default gateway through the > interface which is on same network with it. You need some kind of policy > routing. I'm not very familiar with ipf but with pf you can do: > Unfortunately it doesn't go thru the interface which has Src IP address same as with it. But goes thru the default gateway. But since the Src IP address in the IP packet is 212.64.212.180, all TCP replies come from the right interface (xl1) which makes sense because the devices on the internet wouldn't make the same mistake. > pass out on $ext_if0 route-to ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1) inet from $ext_if1 to any > pass out on $ext_if1 route-to ($ext_if0 $ext_gw0) inet from $ext_if0 to any > > or with ipfw you can use "fwd" rule action. > a "fwd" cannot solve my problem because it likes to forward packets to a certain IP addr or an IP:port, which is not what I want. I just need to forward (or rather route) them thru an "interface". Again, I still think this is what FreeBSD should really be doing for packets which have interface's IP as Src IP addr in the IP header. >> For the test, I did these >> >> tcpdump -nt -i xl1 tcp & >> telnet -s 212.64.212.180 smtp.tnet.com 25 >> >> connection establishes but I can see only the TCP response packets >> coming from xl1, like the following >> >> x.y.z.t > 212.64.212.180 >> x.y.z.t > 212.64.212.180 >> >> All from external IPs to my xl1 int. No packets going out from xl1 they >> all go thru default gateway even if TCP connections are bound to xl1's >> IP address. >> >> I'd like to know if anybody knows why this happened and I can I turn >> things back the way they were. Any help would be much appreciated. >> >> My configuration is like this; >> >> FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE >> ipf: IP Filter: v3.4.35 (336) >> Kernel: IP Filter: v3.4.35 >> ipfw has no rules; allow ip from any to any >> there's also a transparent proxy setup for squid >> >> #~>netstat -rn >> Routing tables >> >> Internet: >> Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire >> default 88.234.8.1 UGS 0 78722302 tun0 >> 10/24 link#1 UC 0 0 rl0 => >> 10 10.1.1.222 UGS 0 26233 xl0 >> 10.0.0.99 link#1 UHLW 0 4 rl0 >> 10.1.1/24 link#2 UC 0 0 xl0 >> 10.1.1.13 00:50:8d:ed:88:94 UHLW 0 1876 xl0 1118 >> 10.1.1.222 00:01:02:df:c1:19 UHLW 1 689 lo0 >> 10.1.1.225 00:b0:d0:20:b7:9e UHLW 0 96690 xl0 706 >> 88.234.8.1 88.234.14.26 UH 1 0 tun0 >> 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 2305904 lo0 >> 192.168.0/16 link#3 UCS 0 0 xl1 >> 212.64.212.176 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff UHLWb 0 15 xl1 => >> 212.64.212.176/29 link#3 UC 0 0 xl1 >> 212.64.212.180 00:04:76:9b:3d:f8 UHLW 0 125 lo0 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 23:03:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D1E16A403 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19DC43D5C for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:03:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay7.apple.com (a17-128-113-37.apple.com [17.128.113.37]) by mail-out3.apple.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k9KN32Xt028503; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (unknown [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay7.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 5904E4F; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:03:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <45394C2A.8090205@tnetus.com> References: <45391895.8010507@tnetus.com> <200610202337.21893.dpenev@mnet.bg> <45394C2A.8090205@tnetus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:03:01 -0700 To: Brian Hawk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freeBSD List Subject: Re: Gateway problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:03:08 -0000 On Oct 20, 2006, at 3:22 PM, Brian Hawk wrote: >> No, you are wrong. Packet will be forwarded to default gateway >> through the interface which is on same network with it. You need >> some kind of policy routing. I'm not very familiar with ipf but >> with pf you can do: >> > Unfortunately it doesn't go thru the interface which has Src IP > address same as with it. But goes thru the default gateway. But > since the Src IP address in the IP packet is 212.64.212.180, all > TCP replies come from the right interface (xl1) which makes sense > because the devices on the internet wouldn't make the same mistake. >> pass out on $ext_if0 route-to ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1) inet from >> $ext_if1 to any >> pass out on $ext_if1 route-to ($ext_if0 $ext_gw0) inet from >> $ext_if0 to any >> or with ipfw you can use "fwd" rule action. >> > a "fwd" cannot solve my problem because it likes to forward packets > to a certain IP addr or an IP:port, which is not what I want. I > just need to forward (or rather route) them thru an "interface". > Again, I still think this is what FreeBSD should really be doing > for packets which have interface's IP as Src IP addr in the IP > header. The source address of a packet is irrelevant to normal routing; only the destination matters. Unless you set up a routing daemon which implements other policies, the FreeBSD TCP/IP stack uses only the destination address to do a lookup in the kernel's routing table, using the most precise matching route, or the default route if one is present and no other route is available. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 23:47:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE75D16A4AB for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:47:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dprobd02.vailsys.com (dprobd02.vailsys.com [63.149.73.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501AB43D53 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:47:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dfsfbd06.vail (dfsfbd06.vail [192.168.129.190]) by dprobd02.vailsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06078A5C68 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:47:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dfwdamian.vail [192.168.129.233]) by dfsfbd06.vail (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789AE323E9F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:47:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dwiest@localhost.vail [127.0.0.1]) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9KNlE40030324 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:47:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dwiest@localhost) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9KNlEQa025963 for FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:47:14 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dfwdamian.vail: dwiest set sender to dwiest@vailsys.com using -f Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:47:14 -0500 From: Damian Wiest To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20061020234714.GC29479@dfwdamian.vail> References: <4537DF7E.8070606@xxiii.com> <4537F1AA.4030601@dial.pipex.com> <20061019224401.GA7216@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061019224401.GA7216@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: Subject: Re: Recommended Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:47:15 -0000 On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 05:44:01PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 10:44:10PM +0100, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > > > > Those have worked for me so far, and yes, it is labour intensive. > > If it was easy to do right then there wouldn't be any good reason for > your boss not to hire the kid behind the counter at MacWhopperDoodle > with a $0.50/hr raise to give your job to him. > > I agree with others. Ask what you want the hardware to do. Make > selections then research as to whether your selections work well with > FreeBSD. Don't fill a computer room on guesswork and reading, buy > samples and test. > > Of particualar areas to pay attention: > > Video controllers. Look for X.org support. > > Disk controllers. Hardware RAID and the latest SATA chipsets may be an > issue. > > Network interfaces. Most seem to work. > > Motherboard & CPU. FreeBSD seems to run on most any x86 but if you > expect on board power management and health status you'll have to do > some research. > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net > ======================================================================== > Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. > _______________________________________________ Regarding system boards, make sure you also check out the support for any on-board components like networks interfaces, RAID controllers, audio and video, firewire, etc. I've got an ASUS K8N-E system board at home, but it uses the NVIDIA chipset so virtually none of the on-board components function. -Damian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 20 23:50:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8789E16A40F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:50:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D780B43D5E for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:50:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from [66.47.111.183] (helo=joeandlane.com) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Gb48H-0008KW-GU for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:50:34 -0400 Received: from joeandlane.com (localhost.localnet.local [127.0.0.1]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9KNrKek016128 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:53:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id k9KNrKB1016127 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:53:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) From: Lane To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:53:19 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610201853.19948.lane@joeandlane.com> X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner-From: lane@joeandlane.com X-ELNK-Trace: e56a4b6ca9bdfda11aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7948133d6bea5d99b9e44ed89abd79129c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.47.111.183 Cc: Subject: Wireless setup FreeBSD-6.1 and fwe0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:50:37 -0000 Hi! I'm running FreeBSD 6.1 on a Dell Inspiron 6400 which is configured to dual boot into Windows XP-Pro. I just got this laptop today, but I've been using Freebsd since 3.4, or earlier. When I boot into Windows I am able to access my Linksys wireless router. There is another secured wireless network nearby, and that may make a difference if you read between the lines at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-wireless.html My problem is that I can't get the wireless network to function in Freebsd. Here's ifconfig -a bfe0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=8 inet6 fe80::215:c5ff:feb8:39e%bfe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 172.16.1.42 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 172.16.1.255 ether 00:15:c5:b8:03:9e media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active fwe0: flags=108902 mtu 1500 options=8 inet6 fe80::304f:c0ff:fe9c:7541%fwe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff0000000 broadcast 255.255.255.255 ether 32:4f:c0:9c:75:41 ch 1 dma -1 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 I've googled a similar issue here: http://groups.google.com/group/lucky.freebsd.questions/browse_frm/thread/d68ec8e94a4d45f9/c513bc5b1afe7517?lnk=st&q=fwe0+needsgiant&rnum=3#c513bc5b1afe7517 But didn't get a resolution. The google post refers to ugen and to ural, but that looks more like an argument between different posters, rather than an answer to the original question. I have NOT modified /boot/loader.conf, but I have tried the instructions in the handbook using kldload .. to no avail dmesg has a peculiar entry: fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant the rest of it follows. The clue, I think, is that in ifconfig fwe0 NEEDSGIANT and in dmesg, if_start is deferred for Giant. Who is this giant? How do I slay him? Based upon the google post, I am suspicious that fwe0 may not, in fact, be the actual interface. But again, that post is suspect. So I'm not sure where to go next (thank the devil for questions@freebsd.org)! Thanks, lane Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.1-SCANDB-2006-09-20 #0: Thu Sep 21 07:30:59 UTC 2006 root@bsd.localnet.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2300 @ 1.66GHz (1662.51-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6e8 Stepping = 8 Features=0xbfe9fbff Features2=0xc189,> AMD Features=0x100000 Cores per package: 2 real memory = 1064120320 (1014 MB) avail memory = 1032196096 (984 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 acpi_throttle1: on cpu1 acpi_throttle1: failed to attach P_CNT device_attach: acpi_throttle1 attach returned 6 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 battery0: on acpi0 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 acpi_button1: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 2.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 2.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 27.0 (no driver attached) pcib1: at device 28.0 on pci0 pci11: on pcib1 pci11: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pcib2: at device 28.3 on pci0 pci12: on pcib2 uhci0: port 0xbf80-0xbf9f irq 20 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xbf60-0xbf7f irq 21 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xbf40-0xbf5f irq 22 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0xbf20-0xbf3f irq 23 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xffa80000-0xffa803ff irq 20 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb4: EHCI version 1.0 usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4: on ehci0 usb4: USB revision 2.0 uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered pcib3: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 bfe0: mem 0xdf9fe000-0xdf9fffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci3 miibus0: on bfe0 bmtphy0: on miibus0 bmtphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto bfe0: Ethernet address: 00:15:c5:b8:03:9e fwohci0: <1394 Open Host Controller Interface> mem 0xdf9fd800-0xdf9fdfff irq 19 at device 1.0 on pci3 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=0) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 32:4f:c0:00:27:9c:75:41 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 1 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 32:4f:c0:9c:75:41 fwe0: Ethernet address: 32:4f:c0:9c:75:41 fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) pci3: at device 1.1 (no driver attached) pci3: at device 1.2 (no driver attached) pci3: at device 1.3 (no driver attached) pci3: at device 1.4 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xbfa0-0xbfaf irq 17 at device 31.2 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) acpi_tz0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64,0x62,0x66 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xce7ff,0xce800-0xcffff on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 8250 or not responding sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 74881MB at ata0-master UDMA33 acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA33 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 01:35:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6323816A5E3 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:35:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC4743D49 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:35:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9L1YwOS009819; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:34:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id k9L1YwEl009818; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:34:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:34:58 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20061021013457.GA9293@thought.org> References: <20061018211258.GA1350@thought.org> <20061018215708.GB93083@gothmog.pc> <20061019001443.GC3342@thought.org> <20061019193854.GC11212@thought.org> <20061019214725.GA1683@gothmog.pc> <20061020051000.GA2419@thought.org> <20061020120816.GA5512@gothmog.pc> <20061020182605.GA6770@thought.org> <20061020190119.GB9135@gothmog.pc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061020190119.GB9135@gothmog.pc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tao.thought.org is back..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:35:06 -0000 On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 10:01:19PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2006-10-20 11:26, Gary Kline wrote: > > /* > > * several lines of mail being rejected yesterday afternoon > > */ > > > > 3929:Oct 19 13:08:56 sage sm-mta[8263]: k9JK8Jfs008260: makeconnection (tao.thought.org. [10.0.0.247]) failed: Connection refused by > > tao.thou > > ght.org. > > 3930:Oct 19 13:08:56 sage sm-mta[8263]: k9JK8Jfs008260: --- 050 ... Deferred: Connection refused by > > tao.thought.org. > > 3931:Oct 19 13:08:56 sage sm-mta[8263]: k9JK8Jfs008260: to=, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=87298, relay=tao.thought.org. [10.0.0.247], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by tao.thought.org. > > 3944:Oct 19 13:11:29 sage sm-mta[8283]: k9JKAurL008281: makeconnection (tao.thought.org. [10.0.0.247]) failed: Connection refused by tao.thought.org. > > Sendmail is not listening on all IP addressed of tao.thought.org. > > Can you show me the following: > > (a) The `/etc/rc.conf' settings related to Sendmail: > > tao# grep sendmail /etc/rc.conf > > (b) The listening sockets of Sendmail on `tao.thought.org': > > tao# sockstat -l4 | grep sendmail > See appended. I was ssh'd into sage|ns1 and did this. On the nameserver I have sendmail_submit_enable="NO"; that's the only diff between the two grep'd outputs. If DHCP had timed out on the evening of the 18th/morning of the 19th, would|could that have caused my prolems? I rebooted both servers almost simultaneously and saw on tao that DHCP was having some kind of difficulty. When tao came up I tried ssh'ing around. No problem. As root in /var/log I did a grep -i dhcp but didn't see anything. Anyway, mail started flowing across and I didn't notice that mail had *quit* by the afternoon of the 19th. By then I was heading out. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix ## sendmail conf sendmail_enable="YES" ### (16mar)sendmail_submit_enable="NO" ### (16mar)sendmail_submit_flags="-bd -q30m -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost" sendmail_enable="YES" sendmail_submit_enable="YES" sendmail_submit_flags="-L smtpd -bd -q30m -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost" root sendmail 414 4 tcp4 *:25 *:* root sendmail 414 6 tcp4 *:587 *:* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 01:41:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF2816A4A0 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D14843DCC for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:40:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id k3so439973ugf for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:40:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DX/6ttV6PiSysOM4hNd7z9P2EXMh9v0/7+3sdFvquGHROKIEjjyBdBWpBNLPkbKdduowptlQR7WZkZFL3mJg8wGimzR1MtpSG202TlQnOmrnoDDjHxlB7r73V0OO2oGyPjdsPn/83WJivIxK7iviCr2fSiJdhPo9M9bjsSGC+So= Received: by 10.67.105.19 with SMTP id h19mr2983326ugm; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.86.18 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20610201840u52a82e80ua59e623c395671d8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:40:33 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: "Norberto Meijome" In-Reply-To: <20061020110200.3ee59292@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20610191716y2f50bebfr6715e38698c4fb1d@mail.gmail.com> <20061020110200.3ee59292@localhost> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question with mouse pointer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:41:16 -0000 Thanks, that is what I was looking for/thinking of. On 10/19/06, Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:16:16 -0400 > "Jim Stapleton" wrote: > > > What's the best way to get a larger pointer on my comptuer? I'm > > running Xorg/KDE. I tried to look, but the only thing I could find was > > cursor profiles, and I'd rather not have to figure out how to create a > > new profile... > > > > Sorry for the lack of specifics and details, but I'm not what else to > > put here. Lowering the resolution isn't really an option either... > > Hi Jim, > usually (in my experience) this is done by changing the cursors you actually > use (rather than 'enlarge' the current by some software method). > > On my 6.2-PRERELEASE system X cursors are located in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/ > > you can download packages and extract them in folders there, or simply install > them from ports (search for 'cursor' in the name). To change the default > setting (so it affects your login manager too, you need to edit > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/default/index.theme > > For example, I have the following cursor packages installed: > > $ pkg_info | grep curso > cursor-bluecurve-theme-0.234_2 The Bluecurve X cursor themes > > and my index.theme is: > > [betom@ayiin] [Fri Oct 20 10:59:07 2006] > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/default > $ cat index.theme > [Icon Theme] > Inherits=Bluecurve-inverse > #Inherits=core > > > There may be some way for your desktop manager to modify the cursor... but > this works, and I use XFCE, so i don't know those details about KDE or GNOME. I > think Enlightment has some mouse-pointer related settings, but it's been a > while since I tried it. > > HIH, > B > > _________________________ > {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome > > Percusive Maintenance - The art of tuning or repairing equipment by hitting it. > > I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. > Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been > Warned. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 01:50:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0E516A412; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gamato@pobox.sk) Received: from exchange.cleverlance.com (exchange.cleverlance.com [82.119.241.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB8443D49; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:50:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamato@pobox.sk) Received: from [86.49.7.168] ([86.49.7.168]) by exchange.cleverlance.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 21 Oct 2006 03:50:49 +0200 Message-ID: <45397CF8.5050300@pobox.sk> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 03:50:48 +0200 From: martinko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20061015 SeaMonkey/1.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <45391F3E.9060307@pobox.sk> <20061020202318.GA67333@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20061020202318.GA67333@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2006 01:50:49.0360 (UTC) FILETIME=[5545D100:01C6F4B3] Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fstab & (local) mount -- FreeBSD Port: sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:50:51 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 09:10:54PM +0200, martinko wrote: > > >> Hello, >> >> This is from CurlFtpFS FAQ: >> >> # *How can I make CurlFtpFS mount automatically at startup?* >> You can add it to /etc/fstab. Example: >> >> curlftpfs#ftp.host.com /mnt/host fuse rw,uid=500,user,noauto 0 0 >> >> >> However, it does not work on FreeBSD -- mount fails with this complain: >> mount: exec mount_fusefs not found in /sbin:/usr/sbin: No such file or >> directory >> >> Of course, we have it here: /usr/local/sbin/mount_fusefs >> >> Is there any workaround or could this be fixed/amended somehow pls ?? >> > > Looks like you need to add /usr/local/sbin to your path. > > ////jerry > Hi, I do not think that is the case: $ env | grep PATH PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/mato/bin It seems that mount(8) is hardcoded or something to look only in those two directories, ignoring any /usr/local/sbin stuff. So the original question remains -- what can be done about it ?? M. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 02:24:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DDC16A403 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 02:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snagit@cbpratt.prohosting.com) Received: from n054.sc0.cp.net (smtpout1104.sc0.he.tucows.com [64.97.144.104]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B5943D4C for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 02:24:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from snagit@cbpratt.prohosting.com) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (67.47.213.85) by n054.sc0.cp.net (7.2.069.1) (authenticated as eagletree@hughes.net) id 45397F44000010F4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 02:24:06 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <86FD4F8A-1926-4716-86E0-36120A3E491D@cbpratt.prohosting.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: FreeBSD Questions From: Chris Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:23:55 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: BTX Halted on 6.1 but not 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 02:24:08 -0000 I was trying to build a test machine so I could run something on 6.2 PR and keep abreast of the changes without updating a server I've pushed a little further than I should have ;-). I had an old Compaq Presario Athlon 900 that wasn't doing anything so I attempted to install using the 6.1 ISO. I found I could not get past a BTX Halted error even after disabling everything in BIOS that can be disabled, disabling ACPI and removing all the cards but the video. The board is quite proprietary and has no configuration options whatsoever. Researching this, I found several possibilities but none applied and I concluded there wasn't much that could be done to work around the problem. Then when I was about to give up, I noticed I still had an old 5.4 ISO in my stacks of disks. I popped it in and it sailed through. My question is, is there a good probability that if I install 5.4 and cvsup to RELENG_6 that it will work. I didn't see anything that actually gave a clear definition of the BTX Halted error and am wondering if I put in 5 or 6 hours on this box, does the BTX Halted error provide any indication that it may have an issue anyway beyond just sysinstall? The cost of a mobo and CPU for a test system will end up a pretty cheap alternative if the hours start adding up. Thanks, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 06:05:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D7716A403 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:05:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (101.114.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch [83.79.114.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0212343D55 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:05:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9L6GwGT031224; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:16:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k9L6Ge4F031214; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:16:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:16:40 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: Mike Spenard , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061021061640.GZ73560@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: Mike Spenard , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Martin Schweizer References: <45392181.3000306@signull.com> <20061020035902.GY73560@saturn.pcs.ms> <4538C29B.3050600@signull.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3lEnBJ3eT4fJ0mBo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4538C29B.3050600@signull.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 Cc: Martin Schweizer Subject: Re: cyrus-sasl2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:05:54 -0000 --3lEnBJ3eT4fJ0mBo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mike Attached you'll find the mail from Anish an me last year. Hope this helps. = Do=20 you use only sasldb2 or saslauthd? If not drop me a line. Am Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 08:35:39AM -0400 Mike Spenard schrieb: > Just looking to get sendmail auth working with pwcheck >=20 > Martin Schweizer wrote: > >Hello Mike > > > >What do you need concretly? I use sendmail/cyrus imap (also replication = on=20 > >a second derver)/sieve (also websieve)/apache (incl. ssl). > > > >Am Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 03:20:33PM -0400 Mike Spenard schrieb: > > =20 > >>Hey Martin, > >>I saw this post, could I get those hints too? > >> > >>Thanks! > >>Mike Spenard > >> > >>Hello Gerard > >> > >>I ran in the same trouble. With some changes you can use the article in= =20 > >>the handbook. Should I send you my hints? > >> > >>Am Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 08:36:32AM -0500 Gerard Seibert schrieb: > >> =20 > >>>/ I found this notation on regarding cyrus-sasl on the FreeBSD site > >>> =20 > >>/>/=20 > >>. > >>/[snip] > >> =20 > >>>/ Does this apply to cyrus-sasl2 as well? I tried 'make config' but th= at > >>> =20 > >>/>/ produced nothing. I do not see any option for the 'pwcheck' option = in > >>/>/ the Makefile. What, if any compile options should I include on the > >>/>/ command line? I am running FreeBSD 5.4 at present. > >> =20 > > My goal is to use sendmail and cyrus impad 2.3. The problem is if I > change the mailer in sendmail.mc nothing appears. I also checked > sendmail.cf. There are no other mailers the the default ones. I'm > very confused about the problem. Any ideas are very welcome. I'm using cyrus-imapd22 in production on a few servers with the base=3D20 sendmail. I'm assuming you have cyrus-imapd23 setup correctly. # set the sendmail password check method touch /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf # add "pwcheck_method: saslauthd" to use sasl database # or "pwcheck_method: passwd" for normal login password checking # add to /etc/make.conf SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+=3D3D -I/usr/local/include -DSASL=3D3D2 \ -D_FFR_SMTP_SSL -DSOCKETMAP SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS+=3D3D-L/usr/local/lib SENDMAIL_LDADD+=3D3D-lsasl2 # set box specific .mc file in /etc/make.conf so upgrades # don't wipe out our existing settings SENDMAIL_MC=3D3D/etc/mail/host.mydomain.com.mc # build shared sendmail libs cd /usr/src/lib/libsm && \ make cleandir && make depend && make obj && make cd /usr/src/lib/libsmutil && \ make cleandir && make depend && make obj && make # now rebuild sendmail in the base cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail && \ make cleandir && make depend && make obj && make && make install # in for box specific .mc add dnl set SASL options define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS', `A p y')dnl dnl define(`confDEF_AUTH_INFO', /etc/mail/auth-info')dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=3D3Dsmtp, Name=3D3DMSA, M=3D3DE')dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=3D3Dsmtps, Name=3D3DTLSMSA, M=3D3DEs')dnl define(`confLOG_LEVEL', `13')dnl TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`LOGIN PLAIN')dnl define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS',`LOGIN PLAIN')dnl define(`confLOCAL_MAILER',`cyrusv2') # stop and restart sendmail cd /etc/mail make make install make stop make start # check if it worked! telnet localhost 25 ehlo localhost If you're trying to host mail for multiple domains you'll need to hack=3D20 the local ruleset to not strip the @domain.tld from the address=3D20 before it's passed to cyrus. The -DSOCKETMAP in the SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=3D20 is needed, but I use it with a special rule to verify the From:=3D20 address that comes from a locally hosted domain is actually valid by=3D20 looking it up via cyrus. =3D2D-=3D20 Anish Mistry --nextPart1950586.76sVkRoCBK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBD3Q4sxqA5ziudZT0RAr60AJ9peG8y/2Sw3CsOeWejr06v/GcmyQCaA6Nf QDiynagLlk2ngBGbhcUdUXQ=3D =3D2AAh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1950586.76sVkRoCBK-- --=20 Regards Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;=20 fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; --3lEnBJ3eT4fJ0mBo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFObtIwa4WkdMP0jkRAsAQAKClqHQXR5LrRG81RKTT/TNvriubbACfciIf 9XleWy4VOOWOxfPEnVmb7ys= =cyq5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3lEnBJ3eT4fJ0mBo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 07:33:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8316416A412 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D1B43D5E for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:33:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GbBMM-0007sS-3o for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:33:34 +0200 Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:33:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Zbigniew Szalbot X-X-Sender: zbyszek@192.168.11.51 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061021091555.O30081@192.168.11.51> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: log rotation, one process doesn't know about it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:33:36 -0000 Hello, I have set up dovecot to log its data to the same log as exim does. This works fine till midnight when it comes to log rotation. Then exim still logs to its log but dovecot ignores it. Now, I have done the homework, found that there is newsyslog.conf and read about flags. And I have the following entry in this file: /var/log/exim/mainlog mailnull:mail 640 60 * @T00 ZC I used to have a flag ZN but I read that the N flag actually makes syslogd ignore to inform other processes about a new file being rotated. So I removed it and left only Z, restarted syslogd, but no joy after midnight. I then added C out of sheer dispair but dovecot still ignores the new log after midnight. Could anyone suggest what I should do in order to make this work as intended? Many thanks in advance! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 08:29:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DE616A415 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:29:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ke.han@redstarling.com) Received: from smtp106.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp106.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.52.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A11A043D49 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:29:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ke.han@redstarling.com) Received: (qmail 3593 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2006 08:29:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.20?) (ke.han@redstarling.com@218.79.209.77 with plain) by smtp106.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Oct 2006 08:29:32 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <943C8D5E-40D8-46DF-9290-1D8B0E0733CC@redstarling.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions Questions list From: ke han Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:29:30 +0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: 4 core Opteron performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:29:39 -0000 I realize this is a bit open-ended. But I need some advice anyway as I need to make a final decision on using FreeBSD 6.1 on a production server. I have a new Sun x4100 server. 2 x dual core Opterons with 8 GB RAM. I need to run MySQL 5, a single threaded HTTP server, and a few other single threaded daemons. This server will have lots of long living sockets for one of the single threaded servers. Other than that, its not outside normal usage bounds. I would like feedback on overall performance from anyone who has used FreeBSD 6.1 with hardware similar to this. I'm not a guy who cares about getting the last 10% of performance out of a server. I am happy to trade performance for maintainability and a little peace of mind. btw, I'm not tried to start another "FreeBSD has poor SMP" flame-fest. any thoughts? thanks, ke han From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 10:23:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9925316A492 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aturetta@bestunion.it) Received: from aa014msg.fastweb.it (aa014msg.fastweb.it [213.140.2.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC92843D55 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:23:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aturetta@bestunion.it) Received: from ms006msg.fastweb.it (10.31.41.46) by aa014msg.fastweb.it (7.3.105.6) id 4535D64B001B1F6B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:23:31 +0200 Received: from mail.bestunion.it (85.18.250.114) by ms006msg.fastweb.it (7.2.070) id 44AD188302A6C435 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:23:31 +0200 Received: from [192.168.43.65] (adsl-253-10.38-151.net24.it [151.38.10.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.bestunion.it (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9LAMsnW075196 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:23:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from aturetta@bestunion.it) Message-ID: <4539F4F8.5070204@bestunion.it> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:22:48 +0200 From: Angelo Turetta User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1b2) Gecko/20060821 SeaMonkey/1.1a MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <450BD996.8090104@commit.it> <44F09E9B.5090303@commit.it> <44F2C9C6.7040907@commit.it> <20061020214528.36877.qmail> In-Reply-To: <20061020214528.36877.qmail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.5, clamav-milter version 0.88.5 on mail.bestunion.it X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FU_FREE autolearn=no version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on mail.bestunion.it Cc: COKYAZICI Subject: Re: Problems with SATA 2 hard disk while installing FreeBSD 6.1 RELEASE AMD 64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:23:33 -0000 COKYAZICI wrote: > Hi, I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.1 RELEASE AMD 64 > on a new computer I bought, it has a ECS C51GM > motherboard, with one SATA 2 hard disk, and an AMD > Athlon 64 4200+ X2 on socket AM2. When I boot with the > install CD, it crashes before starting the sysinstall, > just after it finishes showing the details about the > DVD writer, which I presume happens when it's checking > for hard disks. Although your motherboard seems different, you may be experiencing the problem described in: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?450BD996.8090104 (and referenced messages) Please try one of the 6.2 BETA at the page below (even the bootonly mini-image): if it is the same problem it will recognize your disks. http://www.freebsd.org/where.html#helptest Angelo. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 12:31:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F7216A412 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:31:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mo.babaei@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DAE43D4C for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:31:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mo.babaei@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so1213811wxc for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 05:31:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=K/KMROH05cPi08wItoAp6gBdeHe9MF/BRVQTBbD7jgk6wMojuEdBAn9vKADucB7A1Ro5cS2fMFrbpcoC7eCk7IE2peh1GT+v8d/Jr6xYT2G1nPDpb+m6W/GlsM7givkUsGJxnf/3JxFM3yFyM6f6y61PpVCosa+HLIyj5ZK2SSw= Received: by 10.70.32.10 with SMTP id f10mr2783485wxf; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 05:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.78.11 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 05:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5bf3a41f0610210531i3bc194e3v813e5ab06c08bb6e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:01:58 +0330 From: "Mohamad Babaei" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Berkeley DB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:32:00 -0000 Hi, I've just installed Berkeley DB 4.5 on FreeBSD 6.1 and i'm replicating 2 FreeBSD servers (the other server is FreeBSD 4.7), but whenn i run my programm on FreeBSD 6.1 , i get this error: ......... PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery . . . . . (The other server (FreeBSD 4.7) has no problem in the same situation) (i can even do replication operation between FreeBSD 4.7 and Windows machines) does any one knows the problem ? Regards, Mo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 12:33:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4AD216A40F for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abedini@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023EE43D79 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:33:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from abedini@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so847965uge for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 05:33:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole:from; b=ONM8yIbzXcQbCwkoY/hR2wbXHeOXbgqF9g8eaWF0RYJKYeXEJ4VjjHSK3vir6vVJniuj+ZF3SZaFbMJd3eAw6B3TvK+ILZokVVLCYBax1kI4Yyff3OxqrUyp2x6o0LZFExKx4/yaCHROp5ClgrtT2hSwb3bn6bf5i4pKUkIEy3k= Received: by 10.67.119.13 with SMTP id w13mr3728737ugm; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 05:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from client ( [217.218.202.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id p32sm2288339ugc.2006.10.21.05.33.02; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 05:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000601c6f50d$13b707e0$5ecadad9@client> To: Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:02:19 +0330 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 From: abedini@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:33:28 -0000 hi all dear in freebsd project Default FreeBSD kernel not support any ability and compile kernel take = any time. I need some help for make freeBSD boot CD whit my custom = KERNEL. how make own FreeBSD bootabel cd ? 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All Rights Reserved References 1. http://www.love-you2.com/articles/www.wamu.com/personal/account/checking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 13:55:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ABF916A492 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9845B43D46 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:55:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from localhost (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (AUTH: LOGIN wmoran, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:55:03 -0400 id 0005641D.453A26B7.00012F77 Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:56:26 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Zbigniew Szalbot Message-Id: <20061021095626.72171da9.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <20061021091555.O30081@192.168.11.51> References: <20061021091555.O30081@192.168.11.51> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: log rotation, one process doesn't know about it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:55:12 -0000 On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:33:34 +0200 (CEST) Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hello, > > I have set up dovecot to log its data to the same log as exim does. This > works fine till midnight when it comes to log rotation. Then exim still > logs to its log but dovecot ignores it. > > Now, I have done the homework, found that there is newsyslog.conf and read > about flags. And I have the following entry in this file: > > /var/log/exim/mainlog mailnull:mail 640 60 * @T00 ZC > > I used to have a flag ZN but I read that the N flag actually makes syslogd > ignore to inform other processes about a new file being rotated. > > So I removed it and left only Z, restarted syslogd, but no joy after > midnight. I then added C out of sheer dispair but dovecot still ignores > the new log after midnight. > > Could anyone suggest what I should do in order to make this work as > intended? Do one of the following: 1) Configure both exim and dovecot to log through syslog with the same facility. Then configure syslogd to put that facility in the file you want. 2) Put exim and dovecot log data in seperate files and configure newsyslog to rotate both of those files. If dovecot needs restarted in order to handle log rotation, be sure to put dovecot's PID file in the last column. Personally, I do #1 -- all my mail programs log to /var/log/maillog, but either will work. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 13:59:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809A816A416 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9BC43D60 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:59:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from localhost (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (AUTH: LOGIN wmoran, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:59:47 -0400 id 00056426.453A27D3.00012FFC Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:01:10 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: abedini@gmail.com Message-Id: <20061021100110.d233535e.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <000601c6f50d$13b707e0$5ecadad9@client> References: <000601c6f50d$13b707e0$5ecadad9@client> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:59:48 -0000 On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:02:19 +0330 abedini@gmail.com wrote: > hi all dear in freebsd project > > Default FreeBSD kernel not support any ability and compile kernel take any time. I need some help for make freeBSD boot CD whit my custom KERNEL. how make own FreeBSD bootabel cd ? FreeSBIE has a set of scripts that allow you to do this. You can install it from the ports collection. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 14:09:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE5816A40F for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:09:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1245943D88 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:08:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GbHWx-000AHj-7p; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:08:55 +0200 Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:08:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Zbigniew Szalbot X-X-Sender: zbyszek@192.168.11.51 To: Bill Moran In-Reply-To: <20061021095626.72171da9.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Message-ID: <20061021160140.X39264@192.168.11.51> References: <20061021091555.O30081@192.168.11.51> <20061021095626.72171da9.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: log rotation, one process doesn't know about it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:09:02 -0000 Hello, On Sat, 21 Oct 2006, Bill Moran wrote: > Do one of the following: > 1) Configure both exim and dovecot to log through syslog with the same > facility. Then configure syslogd to put that facility in the file > you want. As FBSD is still new to me, I am trying to understand what it would involve. Exim is configured to log to /var/log/exim/mainlog. In the newsyslog.conf I have /var/log/exim/mainlog mailnull:mail 640 60 * @T00 ZC Does it mean exim uses syslogd? It is not obvious to me. If it does, how can I do the same with dovecot? In dovecot.conf I have the path pointing to /var/log/exim/mainlog. If I want to use syslogd, do I have to write to /var/log/maillog? I want to get it right using the first solution. Thank you very much for your patience with me! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 14:21:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D0116A5B4 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:21:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msoulier@digitaltorque.ca) Received: from mail.storm.ca (mail.storm.ca [209.87.239.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D837343DAD for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:19:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from msoulier@digitaltorque.ca) Received: from tigger.digitaltorque.ca (hs-216-106-102-70.storm.ca [216.106.102.70]) by mail.storm.ca (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9LEJeqn011684 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:19:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by tigger.digitaltorque.ca (Postfix, from userid 500) id 735C823DF1; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:19:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:19:34 -0400 From: "Michael P. Soulier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061021141934.GP31580@tigger.digitaltorque.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="q8dntDJTu318bll0" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: traffic analysis tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:21:03 -0000 --q8dntDJTu318bll0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey people, I'd like something to look at traffic use through my gateway, so I know how much of my upload bandwidth and download bandwidth is in use at any time. Ideally it'll tell me from where, so I can look at internal abusers, or get= an idea of where hits are coming from. Off the top of my head, I can think of two tools. 1. ntop - great web interface, but I've found it unstable 2. iptraf - good curses interface, but I'm looking for trend monitoring 3. mrtg - as I'm running snmp, so I could just monitor it from a desktop running mrtg... Any other suggestions? Thanks, Mike --=20 Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." --Albert Einstein --q8dntDJTu318bll0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFOix2KGqCc1vIvggRAjLtAJ973hhNM1GUhm4SibHraFJgwdsU3wCeL/gp m0FhNaI6DserO5kJkhMCYW0= =P+bd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --q8dntDJTu318bll0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 14:51:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706D616A415 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:51:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADCC43D45 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:51:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:51:28 -0400 id 0005641D.453A33F0.00013274 Received: from Internal Mail-Server (206.210.89.202) by mx01 (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Oct 2006 10:46:01 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:51:27 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Zbigniew Szalbot Message-Id: <20061021105127.b424bcfb.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <20061021160140.X39264@192.168.11.51> References: <20061021091555.O30081@192.168.11.51> <20061021095626.72171da9.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <20061021160140.X39264@192.168.11.51> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.9 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: log rotation, one process doesn't know about it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:51:30 -0000 In response to Zbigniew Szalbot : > Hello, > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2006, Bill Moran wrote: > > > Do one of the following: > > 1) Configure both exim and dovecot to log through syslog with the same > > facility. Then configure syslogd to put that facility in the file > > you want. > > As FBSD is still new to me, I am trying to understand what it would > involve. Exim is configured to log to /var/log/exim/mainlog. In the > newsyslog.conf I have > > /var/log/exim/mainlog mailnull:mail 640 60 * @T00 ZC > > Does it mean exim uses syslogd? It is not obvious to me. If it does, how > can I do the same with dovecot? In dovecot.conf I have the path pointing > to /var/log/exim/mainlog. If I want to use syslogd, do I have to write to > /var/log/maillog? > > I want to get it right using the first solution. Thank you very much > for your patience with me! You're asking all the wrong questions. Take a step back and do a little reading, it's not really hard once you know what order to go in. First, read the man pages for syslogd and syslog.conf. The high-level explanation is that syslogd accepts messages from many places and handles them according to its configuration. syslogd and newsyslog are two different programs, despite the similarities in their names, they are independent. Next, research the program logger, which is a simple tool to send messages to syslogd. Experiment a bit to get a feel for how messages are being handled, and gain an understanding of facilities and levels. >From there, both Dovecot and Exim will both have configuration parameters to tell them _how_ to log. Looking at my Dovecot config, I didn't have to change anything to have it log to syslogd with facility mail. I don't use Exim, so I can't speak to the details of its config. If you have specific questions, post to the list. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 14:52:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7FA16A407 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao.barros@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB8F43D55 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:52:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joao.barros@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so1771291nfc for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:52:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FKBMJWBiEiTjZu9gEtaOb+uLuPynd4rx/xHSNZ6VrE2gkmUM/j1eQt28fKOAUYbvQLMP9k/V3SqePNJ0QxOkZvNaLMZbJh4RqyW9bkXia4uiaV/rhLE1n1CjJzVfFQZw/qKBNGz5GWRlDaE5CaFTuFNoKfGBZ4cGfGmGFztfR0M= Received: by 10.78.185.7 with SMTP id i7mr3925704huf; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.173.8 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <70e8236f0610210752q44e41778wefb3346d15e89a18@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:52:54 +0100 From: "Joao Barros" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20061021141934.GP31580@tigger.digitaltorque.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061021141934.GP31580@tigger.digitaltorque.ca> Subject: Re: traffic analysis tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:52:59 -0000 On 10/21/06, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > Hey people, > > I'd like something to look at traffic use through my gateway, so I know how > much of my upload bandwidth and download bandwidth is in use at any time. > Ideally it'll tell me from where, so I can look at internal abusers, or get an > idea of where hits are coming from. > > Off the top of my head, I can think of two tools. > > 1. ntop - great web interface, but I've found it unstable > 2. iptraf - good curses interface, but I'm looking for trend monitoring > 3. mrtg - as I'm running snmp, so I could just monitor it from a desktop > running mrtg... > > Any other suggestions? I have two for you: NetMRG and Cacti You can set them up to read values from pf for example :) -- Joao Barros From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 15:12:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5583116A416 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:12:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nik@optim.com.ru) Received: from mail.optim-mol.cemu.ru (mail.optim-mol.cemu.ru [83.102.188.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01E643D5A for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:12:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nik@optim.com.ru) Received: from [128.42.76.161] (ece-76-161.ece.rice.edu [128.42.76.161]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.optim-mol.cemu.ru (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9LFBtVV017760 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:12:01 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from nik@optim.com.ru) Message-ID: <453A38BA.1070708@optim.com.ru> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:11:54 -0500 From: Nikolay Mirin User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-98.7 required=5.0 tests=SPF_FAIL, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on mail.optim-mol.cemu.ru Subject: GELI provider would never detach X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:12:18 -0000 Hi, Everybody. I am trying out the geli partition and everything is just fine, except that it would never detach. It just freezes and I have to do "reboot -q" or "reboot -q -n" in order to start over. The thing seems happening only with large >100G partitions. 256Mb memory stick worked perfectly. I have recently updated all sources and recompiled the system. I waited about 4-5 hours for the provider to detach. I removed GBDE support from the kernel, just in case. Thank you for any comments about it, -Nikolay A Mirin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 16:07:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA4516A407 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:07:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lauwe@planet.nl) Received: from timkapel.nl (ip3e83f079.speed.planet.nl [62.131.240.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742C843D8A for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:07:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lauwe@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.7] by timkapel.nl (MDaemon PRO v9.0.4) with ESMTP id md50000007406.msg for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:07:48 +0200 Message-ID: <453A45CE.3080301@planet.nl> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:07:42 +0200 From: Laurens Timmermans User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: laurens@timkapel.nl X-Spam-Processed: mail.timkapel.nl, Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:07:48 +0200 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-Return-Path: lauwe@planet.nl X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Dualboot Ntloader "invalid slice" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lauwe@planet.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:07:56 -0000 Hi, I am trying to get a double boot system on my laptop with FreeBSD and Windows XP. I have tried this before using NTLOADER on my desktop-pc (by following the directions in the faq) and it works like a charm, but not on my laptop... I installed FreeBSD, copied /boot/boot1 to a usb-stick, set my windows-slice active and added a freebsd-entry to my boot.ini. When i boot i get the ntloader-menu, it boots xp just fine but when i choose FreeBSD i get "invalid slice". I can get back into my freebsd-install by setting it's slice active again (using boot/rescue-cd). I am using FreeBSD 6.2-beta2 (because of support for my pentium M). My disk looks as following: -ad0s1 = dell recovery-partition -ad0s2 = NTFS (windows xp) -ad0s3 = FreeBSD from fstab: +ad0s3b = swap +ad0s3a = / +ad0s3e = /tmp +ad0s3f = /usr +ad0s3d = /var How can i get this to work using ntloader ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 17:11:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E0D16A4F0 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (101.114.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch [83.79.114.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E250543DB1 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:11:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9LHMSTB032597; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:22:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k9LHMSFd032596; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:22:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:22:23 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061021172223.GA32539@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SUOF0GtieIMvvwua" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 Subject: fdisk problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:11:55 -0000 --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello=20 I exchange my harddisk in my notebook (old 53GB, new 76GB). The old one I d= ivided in two=20 partitions: 30 GB (Windows XP) / 23GB (FreeBSD 6.1). Now I moved over to th= e new one (43GB /=20 23GB) with Acronis TrueImage without any problems. Both os runs without any= changes (I was very=20 surpesed). Now I would mount the rest 10GB with a new slice to the existing= one. Now I can create=20 the slice with fdisk but not write the settings (typ w). I also see the fol= lowing when I start=20 fisk: ????????????????????????????? Message ??????????????????????= ???????? ?WARNING: A geometry of 165398/15/63 for ad0 is incorrect. = Using ? ?a more likely geometry. If this geometry is incorrect or y= ou ? ?are unsure as to whether or not it's correct, please consul= t ? ?the Hardware Guide in the Documentation submenu or use the = ? ?(G)eometry command to change it now. = ? ? = ? ?Remember: you need to enter whatever your BIOS thinks the = ? ?geometry is! For IDE, it's what you were told in the BIOS = ? ?setup. For SCSI, it's the translation mode your controller = is ? ?using. Do NOT use a ``physical geometry''. = ? ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????= (100%)??? ? [ OK ] = ? ??????????????????????[ Press enter or space ]??????????????= ????????? My fdisk output is: ******************* ******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=3D165398 heads=3D15 sectors/track=3D63 (945 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=3D165398 heads=3D15 sectors/track=3D63 (945 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 7 (0x07),(OS/2 HPFS, NTFS, QNX-2 (16 bit) or Advanced UNIX) start 63, size 69219297 (33798 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 239/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 69219360, size 65303280 (31886 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 1023/ head 0/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 239/ sector 63 The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: The screen from fdisk ********************* Disk name: ad0 FDISK Partition Edit= or DISK Geometry: 9729 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors =3D 156296385 sectors (76316= MB) Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype Fla= gs 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 63 69219297 69219359 ad0s1 4 NTFS/HPFS/QNX 7 69219360 65303280 134522639 ad0s2 8 freebsd 165 134522640 21778848 156301487 - 12 unused 0 It seems like the fdisk output differs from the fdisk console output, but I= 'm not sure and very=20 confused. Any ideas are welcome. =20 --=20 Regards Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;=20 fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFOldPwa4WkdMP0jkRAtkmAKDlnMm48+iWyHAx4svcGJ/QMcNCBwCfVm1x VX1Rcma/IWTaQJvX53Rsb8I= =+utr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 17:48:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD6616A542 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:48:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393FE43D7E for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:48:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k9LHmrpE002036; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:48:53 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, lauwe@planet.nl Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:48:54 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <453A45CE.3080301@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: <453A45CE.3080301@planet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610211048.55010.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Dualboot Ntloader "invalid slice" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:48:59 -0000 On Saturday 21 October 2006 09:07, Laurens Timmermans wrote: > Hi, > > > I am trying to get a double boot system on my laptop with FreeBSD and > Windows XP. I have tried this before using NTLOADER on my desktop-pc > (by following the directions in the faq) and it works like a charm, > but not on my laptop... > I installed FreeBSD, copied /boot/boot1 to a usb-stick, set my > windows-slice active and added a freebsd-entry to my boot.ini. > When i boot i get the ntloader-menu, it boots xp just fine but when i > choose FreeBSD i get "invalid slice". I can get back into my > freebsd-install by setting it's slice active again (using > boot/rescue-cd). I am using FreeBSD 6.2-beta2 (because of support for > my pentium M). My disk looks as following: > > -ad0s1 = dell recovery-partition > -ad0s2 = NTFS (windows xp) > -ad0s3 = FreeBSD > > from fstab: > +ad0s3b = swap > +ad0s3a = / > +ad0s3e = /tmp > +ad0s3f = /usr > +ad0s3d = /var > > How can i get this to work using ntloader ? > That is very similar to what I am using right now on this computer and 3 others. What does your boot.ini look like. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://www.soyandina.com/ "I am Andean project". http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 18:19:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D53216A417 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lauwe@planet.nl) Received: from timkapel.nl (ip3e83f079.speed.planet.nl [62.131.240.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F22B43D49 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:19:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lauwe@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.7] by timkapel.nl (MDaemon PRO v9.0.4) with ESMTP id md50000007417.msg for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:19:36 +0200 Message-ID: <453A64B4.4000504@planet.nl> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:19:32 +0200 From: Laurens Timmermans User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kent Stewart References: <453A45CE.3080301@planet.nl> <200610211048.55010.kstewart@owt.com> In-Reply-To: <200610211048.55010.kstewart@owt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: laurens@timkapel.nl X-Spam-Processed: mail.timkapel.nl, Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:19:36 +0200 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-Return-Path: lauwe@planet.nl X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dualboot Ntloader "invalid slice" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lauwe@planet.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:19:39 -0000 Kent Stewart schreef: > On Saturday 21 October 2006 09:07, Laurens Timmermans wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> I am trying to get a double boot system on my laptop with FreeBSD and >> Windows XP. I have tried this before using NTLOADER on my desktop-pc >> (by following the directions in the faq) and it works like a charm, >> but not on my laptop... >> I installed FreeBSD, copied /boot/boot1 to a usb-stick, set my >> windows-slice active and added a freebsd-entry to my boot.ini. >> When i boot i get the ntloader-menu, it boots xp just fine but when i >> choose FreeBSD i get "invalid slice". I can get back into my >> freebsd-install by setting it's slice active again (using >> boot/rescue-cd). I am using FreeBSD 6.2-beta2 (because of support for >> my pentium M). My disk looks as following: >> >> -ad0s1 = dell recovery-partition >> -ad0s2 = NTFS (windows xp) >> -ad0s3 = FreeBSD >> >> from fstab: >> +ad0s3b = swap >> +ad0s3a = / >> +ad0s3e = /tmp >> +ad0s3f = /usr >> +ad0s3d = /var >> >> How can i get this to work using ntloader ? >> > > That is very similar to what I am using right now on this computer and 3 > others. What does your boot.ini look like. > > Kent > My boot.ini looks like this: [boot loader] timeout=5 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professinal" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect c:\boot1="FreeBSD" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 18:35:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495A916A417 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F0343D5F for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:35:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k9LIZEpE004833; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:35:15 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, lauwe@planet.nl Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:35:16 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <453A45CE.3080301@planet.nl> <200610211048.55010.kstewart@owt.com> <453A64B4.4000504@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: <453A64B4.4000504@planet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610211135.16683.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Dualboot Ntloader "invalid slice" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:35:18 -0000 On Saturday 21 October 2006 11:19, Laurens Timmermans wrote: > Kent Stewart schreef: > > On Saturday 21 October 2006 09:07, Laurens Timmermans wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> > >> I am trying to get a double boot system on my laptop with FreeBSD > >> and Windows XP. I have tried this before using NTLOADER on my > >> desktop-pc (by following the directions in the faq) and it works > >> like a charm, but not on my laptop... > >> I installed FreeBSD, copied /boot/boot1 to a usb-stick, set my > >> windows-slice active and added a freebsd-entry to my boot.ini. > >> When i boot i get the ntloader-menu, it boots xp just fine but > >> when i choose FreeBSD i get "invalid slice". I can get back into > >> my freebsd-install by setting it's slice active again (using > >> boot/rescue-cd). I am using FreeBSD 6.2-beta2 (because of support > >> for my pentium M). My disk looks as following: > >> > >> -ad0s1 = dell recovery-partition > >> -ad0s2 = NTFS (windows xp) > >> -ad0s3 = FreeBSD > >> > >> from fstab: > >> +ad0s3b = swap > >> +ad0s3a = / > >> +ad0s3e = /tmp > >> +ad0s3f = /usr > >> +ad0s3d = /var > >> > >> How can i get this to work using ntloader ? > > > > That is very similar to what I am using right now on this computer > > and 3 others. What does your boot.ini look like. > > > > Kent > > My boot.ini looks like this: > > [boot loader] > timeout=5 > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS > [operating systems] > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP > Professinal" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect > c:\boot1="FreeBSD" > The only difference is I called it bootsect.bsd to make it look like everything else. Could you have somehow copied it badly. I always have a machine running and did a binary ftp to the local machine and then renamed to to the *.bsd. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://www.soyandina.com/ "I am Andean project". http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 18:43:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2772916A403 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9693943D49 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:43:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id w49so37718pyg for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.180.7 with SMTP id h7mr2605241qbp; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e15sm4891366qba.2006.10.21.11.43.22; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91950BA0F for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:43:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Gerard Seibert Organization: Seibercom.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:43:02 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(=?utf-8?q?gxJxxc=0A=09RnSNPNr*/=5E=7EStawWU9KDJ-CT0k=24f=23?=@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1838235.OY8D2QlDij"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200610211443.14451.gerard@seibercom.net> Subject: Postfix & clamav-milter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gerard@seibercom.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:43:57 -0000 --nextPart1838235.OY8D2QlDij Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline =46reeBSD 6.1 Postfix-2.4-20061006 Clamav-milter 0.88.5 I cannot seem to get the clamav-milter to work with postfix. This is the=20 error message from the maillog: Oct 21 14:23:03 scorpio postfix/smtpd[36556]: warning: connect to Milter=20 service unix:/var/run/clamav/clmilter.sock: Permission denied This is the entry in the main.cf file: smtpd_milters =3D unix:/var/run/clamav/clmilter.sock milter_default_action =3D accept I changed the ownership on the /var/run/clamav directory to: clamav:postfix I even went as far as giving the directory a permission or: 1777. This is from the /etc/rc.conf file: clamav_milter_enable=3D"YES" clamav_milter_flags=3D"-P -m 50 --quarantine-dir=3D/var/mail/quarantine -T = 0" clamav_milter_socket=3D"/var/run/clamav/clmilter.sock" I am fresh out of ideas why this is not working. =2D-=20 Gerard --nextPart1838235.OY8D2QlDij Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFOmpCs3R1WQUU6lgRAmbLAJ419dSGxgZMcNTZPhOTHyA57dpIJwCgxIdH SjZx8MA3FEj+YvMpd8iil6Y= =9ZfZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1838235.OY8D2QlDij-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 18:53:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FD716A407 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kiffin.gish@planet.nl) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42EA543D60 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:53:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kiffin.gish@planet.nl) Received: from gish.demon.nl ([83.160.27.223]:23327 helo=[192.168.1.33]) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GbLyn-000E6z-BF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:53:57 +0000 From: Kiffin Gish To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:53:57 +0200 Message-Id: <1161456837.6361.5.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Failed to connect to the FAM server: (null) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:53:59 -0000 I just upgraded from Gnome 2.14 to 2.16 (FreeBSD 6.1). This seemed to go alright in general, except that now the Applications menu is empty, as well as some of the System items. If I try and run gnome control center for example, I get the following error: ** (gnome-control-center:6338): WARNING **: Failed to connect to the FAM server: (null) Can someone help me please? -- Kiffin Gish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 19:18:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2404616A416 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from mail47.e.nsc.no (mail47.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDD943D60 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:18:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from [62.16.179.41] (062016179041.customer.alfanett.no [62.16.179.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail47.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k9LJI18c012151 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:18:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <453A726D.8070301@netscape.net> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:18:05 +0200 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <453A45CE.3080301@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: <453A45CE.3080301@planet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dualboot Ntloader "invalid slice" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:18:10 -0000 Laurens Timmermans wrote: > Hi, > > > I am trying to get a double boot system on my laptop with FreeBSD and > Windows XP. I have tried this before using NTLOADER on my desktop-pc (by > following the directions in the faq) and it works like a charm, but not > on my laptop... > I installed FreeBSD, copied /boot/boot1 to a usb-stick, set my > windows-slice active and added a freebsd-entry to my boot.ini. > When i boot i get the ntloader-menu, it boots xp just fine but when i > choose FreeBSD i get "invalid slice". I can get back into my > freebsd-install by setting it's slice active again (using boot/rescue-cd). > I am using FreeBSD 6.2-beta2 (because of support for my pentium M). I found a thread that may or may not be relevant - this message in particular: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2005-09/0177.html Start of thread: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2005-09/0079.html -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 19:45:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6C916A403 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lauwe@planet.nl) Received: from timkapel.nl (ip3e83f079.speed.planet.nl [62.131.240.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110D143D5C for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:45:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lauwe@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.7] by timkapel.nl (MDaemon PRO v9.0.4) with ESMTP id md50000007424.msg for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:45:29 +0200 Message-ID: <453A78D7.9050300@planet.nl> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:45:27 +0200 From: Laurens Timmermans User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kent Stewart , Tore Lund References: <453A45CE.3080301@planet.nl> <200610211048.55010.kstewart@owt.com> <453A64B4.4000504@planet.nl> <200610211135.16683.kstewart@owt.com> In-Reply-To: <200610211135.16683.kstewart@owt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: laurens@timkapel.nl X-Spam-Processed: mail.timkapel.nl, Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:45:29 +0200 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-Return-Path: lauwe@planet.nl X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dualboot Ntloader "invalid slice" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lauwe@planet.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:45:41 -0000 Kent Stewart schreef: > On Saturday 21 October 2006 11:19, Laurens Timmermans wrote: >> Kent Stewart schreef: >>> On Saturday 21 October 2006 09:07, Laurens Timmermans wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am trying to get a double boot system on my laptop with ... >>> That is very similar to what I am using right now on this computer >>> and 3 others. What does your boot.ini look like. >>> >>> Kent >> My boot.ini looks like this: >> >> [boot loader] >> timeout=5 >> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS >> [operating systems] >> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP >> Professinal" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect >> c:\boot1="FreeBSD" >> > > The only difference is I called it bootsect.bsd to make it look like > everything else. Could you have somehow copied it badly. I always have > a machine running and did a binary ftp to the local machine and then > renamed to to the *.bsd. > > Kent > I don't see what could have gone wrong with the copying. I tried a couple of times. Tore Lund schreef: > Laurens Timmermans wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am trying to get a double boot system on my laptop with FreeBSD ... > > I found a thread that may or may not be relevant - this message in > particular: > > http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2005-09/0177.html > > Start of thread: > > http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2005-09/0079.html Thank you for that link, the problem described there is in a way similar to mine. Unfortunately the problem was fixed by updating the bios, and i already have the latest version (A04) for my laptop (Dell Precision M70). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 21:10:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45C416A40F for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E98243D45 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:10:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.140] (helo=anti-virus02-07) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GbO6v-00018I-Cm; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:10:29 +0100 Received: from [62.31.10.95] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GbO6u-0003D2-Qi; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:10:28 +0100 Message-ID: <453A8CC2.1080405@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:10:26 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20061020162119.49001.qmail@web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <45390333.4020007@pixelhammer.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: rm command problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:10:31 -0000 Jonathan Arnold wrote: > DAve wrote: > >> >> director# find . -inum 107763 -exec rm -i {} \; >> remove ./.rhosts? y > > > Well, that was fun! I was wondering just how many different ways people > could come up with deleting the file, but this one has to be crowned the > winner of the all important "Most Obscure Solution" :-) To delete > something > based upon the inode - fantastic! Most handy for filenames loaded with unprintable characters which "ls" just shows as "?" and which you have no clue how to type or wildcard, but not required for simple - prefixed files, as has been demonstrated :-) --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 21:11:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F1B16A412 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyskdisciplin@yahoo.se) Received: from web27606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web27606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.177.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F05E043D53 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:11:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tyskdisciplin@yahoo.se) Received: (qmail 53139 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Oct 2006 21:11:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.se; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=6bueu/tSeUbOOxrt4vXMyfJMFeZ5E3Hq8y6P+0n+JozDGIOttHIQ59JRU5juFZFAt1cRwbwlCLK63l6Eq/WzbltmvI34PnroJEtXvJyonDnvsqMZqiZ0/hWHgfkl43+x87fKKrzw181krksHsZo9cyz6x2zvSwxfFRUZHdrZwyU= ; Message-ID: <20061021211153.53137.qmail@web27606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [217.142.132.21] by web27606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:11:53 CEST Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:11:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Bobby Knight To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Sound a bit garbled after awhile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:11:55 -0000 Hello I have this problem that after awhile, sometimes a rather long while, the sound starts to suck. It is noticeable by the base which gets that typical broken sound. The sound gets restored after I reload the kernel module snd_ich... Is there some sysctl that needs to be set for the sound to be good all the time? Thank you Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 21:24:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E0F16A47B for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:24:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B3A43D58 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:23:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.141] (helo=anti-virus02-08) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GbOJx-00012R-L0; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:23:57 +0100 Received: from [62.31.10.95] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GbOJx-0001Nd-4B; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:23:57 +0100 Message-ID: <453A8FEA.5050805@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:23:54 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: martinko References: <45391F3E.9060307@pobox.sk> In-Reply-To: <45391F3E.9060307@pobox.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: fstab & (local) mount -- FreeBSD Port: sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:24:00 -0000 martinko wrote: >Hello, > >This is from CurlFtpFS FAQ: > ># *How can I make CurlFtpFS mount automatically at startup?* >You can add it to /etc/fstab. Example: > > curlftpfs#ftp.host.com /mnt/host fuse rw,uid=500,user,noauto 0 0 > > >However, it does not work on FreeBSD -- mount fails with this complain: >mount: exec mount_fusefs not found in /sbin:/usr/sbin: No such file or >directory > >Of course, we have it here: /usr/local/sbin/mount_fusefs > > Make a symlink from either /sbin/mount_fusefs or /usr/sbin/mount_fusefs to /usr/local/sbin/mount_fusefs --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 21:45:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364A316A403 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:45:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DB043D64 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:45:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1GbOev-000GKi-4f; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:45:37 -0600 In-Reply-To: <943C8D5E-40D8-46DF-9290-1D8B0E0733CC@redstarling.com> References: <943C8D5E-40D8-46DF-9290-1D8B0E0733CC@redstarling.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-33-623825989; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Message-Id: From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:45:35 -0600 To: ke han X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions Questions list Subject: Re: 4 core Opteron performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:45:38 -0000 --Apple-Mail-33-623825989 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Oct 21, 2006, at 2:29 AM, ke han wrote: > I realize this is a bit open-ended. But I need some advice anyway > as I need to make a final decision on using FreeBSD 6.1 on a > production server. > I have a new Sun x4100 server. 2 x dual core Opterons with 8 GB > RAM. I need to run MySQL 5, a single threaded HTTP server, and a > few other single threaded daemons. > This server will have lots of long living sockets for one of the > single threaded servers. Other than that, its not outside normal > usage bounds. > I would like feedback on overall performance from anyone who has > used FreeBSD 6.1 with hardware similar to this. I'm not a guy who > cares about getting the last 10% of performance out of a server. I > am happy to trade performance for maintainability and a little > peace of mind. I have a dual opteron 2.0ghz (not dual core) with 4GB ram running 6.1. It ran a very busy mysql 4 server (feeding three other dedicated apache server machines), plus it runs a few FrontBase databases that are not so busy (low -- med low usage), and about 30 instances of apache (ie, min of 30 jails, each running their own apache) and a couple of jails with roxen serving webpages, plus a bind daemon, a moderately busy exim mta, courier imap and pop daemons, and some other assorted stuff, like a bunch of java based WebObjects instance and some db stuff (like some low use mysql 4/5 etc). It rarely broke much of a heavy sweat in normal usage. The super busy mysql 4 server is now gone and the machine rarely even sweats at all now (all the rest is still there). I would google on x4100 and FreeBSD or search the archives for any machine-specific issues. I kind of remember some issues with some sort of Sun servers. best Chad > > btw, I'm not tried to start another "FreeBSD has poor SMP" flame-fest. > > any thoughts? > thanks, ke han --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net --Apple-Mail-33-623825989-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 22:41:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B89A16A403 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5E443D55 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:41:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c59so20014pyc for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.219.14 with SMTP id w14mr2835672qbq; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q13sm1808566qbq.2006.10.21.15.13.48; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss.seibercom.net [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2952ABA0F; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:13:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:13:59 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom.NET X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20061021180255.230C.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.27 [en] Subject: Postfix + clamav-milter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:41:25 -0000 FreeBSD 6.1 STABLE Clamav-milter 0.88.5 Postfix-2.4-20061006 I have been trying to get postfix to work with clamav-milter. I added this to my main.cf file: smtpd_milters = /unix:/var/run/clamav/clmilter.sock milter_default_action = accept As far as I can tell, postfix never uses this milter. I tried changing the name to see what would happen, and postfix issued a warning that the file could not be found. I am reasonable sure that postfix is aware of the file; however it never appears to invoke it. I have insured that the file is chmod'd to 777 and the /var/run/clamav is owned by "clamav:postfix" so it can read the file. There is nothing at all in the log file regarding it. Mail that is received and scanned should have a notice placed in the headers. That is not happening. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. ***** postconf -n ***** broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes command_directory = /usr/local/sbin config_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix daemon_directory = /usr/local/libexec/postfix debug_peer_level = 2 disable_dns_lookups = yes html_directory = no mail_owner = postfix mail_spool_directory = /var/mail mailbox_command = /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/deliver mailbox_size_limit = 0 mailq_path = /usr/local/bin/mailq manpage_directory = /usr/local/man milter_default_action = accept mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost, $mydomain mynetworks_style = host myorigin = $mydomain newaliases_path = /usr/local/bin/newaliases queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix readme_directory = no relayhost = [smtp.gmail.com]:587 sample_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix sender_dependent_relayhost_maps = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/sd_rely sendmail_path = /usr/local/sbin/sendmail setgid_group = maildrop smtp_generic_maps = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/generic smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd smtp_sasl_path = smtp smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous, noplaintest smtp_sasl_tls_security_options = noanonymous smtp_sender_dependent_authentication = yes smtp_tls_CAfile = /usr/local/etc/postfix/certs/cacert.pem smtp_tls_cert_file = /usr/local/etc/postfix/certs/postfix-cert.pem smtp_tls_key_file = /usr/local/etc/postfix/certs/postfix-key.pem smtp_tls_loglevel = 0 smtp_tls_policy_maps = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/tls_policy smtp_tls_security_level = may smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:/var/run/smtp_tls_session_cache smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name ($mail_version) smtpd_client_restrictions = reject_rbl_client relays.ordb.org reject_rbl_client dnsbl.sorbs.net smtpd_milters = unix:/var/run/clamav/clmilter.sock smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated permit_mynetworks reject_unauth_destination smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = yes smtpd_sasl_local_domain = $myhostname smtpd_tls_CAfile = /usr/local/etc/postfix/certs/cacert.pem smtpd_tls_cert_file = /usr/local/etc/postfix/certs/postfix-cert.pem smtpd_tls_key_file = /usr/local/etc/postfix/certs/postfix-key.pem smtpd_tls_security_level = may smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:/var/smtpd_tls_session_cache transport_maps = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/transport unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550 -- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 23:00:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D3E16A415 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:00:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org [198.22.63.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A047343D79 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:00:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9LN0isP025088 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:00:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (8.13.8/8.13.7/Submit) id k9LN0iun025087 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:00:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:00:44 -0400 From: "Michael W. Lucas" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061021230043.GA24969@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Subject: pfspamd greylisting stuttering at everything X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:00:59 -0000 Hi, I hear greylisting is wonderful, and yet it's being unkind to me. Any help would be appreciated. According to spamd(8), addresses that are not in the spamd table should not be stuttered at when spamd(8) is running in greylisting mode; rather they should just get a 451 and watch for more incoming connections. I'm set up just like the man page, but every incoming connection is being stuttered at. This plays havoc with incoming legit mail, of course, and I've been forced to fall back on older antispam tools. spamd is running as: spamd -v -G7:4:864 -r451 My pf.conf is just: --- int="vr0" my_address="198.22.63.8" table persist table persist table persist file "/usr/local/etc/spamd/whitelist" no rdr on {lo0} from any to any rdr pass inet proto tcp from to $my_address port smtp -> $my_address port smtp rdr pass inet proto tcp from to any port smtp -> 127.0.0.1 port 8025 rdr pass inet proto tcp from ! to any port smtp -> 127.0.0.1 port 8025 pass in on $int proto tcp from any to $int port 22 flags S/SA keep state --- (OK, the last rule should not be necessary, but I'm being careful.) My spamd.conf is very textbook: -- all:\ :spamhaus:spews1:china:korea:whitelist: spamhaus:\ :black:\ :msg="SPAM. Your address %A is in the Spamhaus Block List\n\ See http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl and\ http://www.abuse.net/sbl.phtml?IP=%A for more details":\ :method=http:\ :file=www.openbsd.org/spamd/SBL.cidr.gz: spews1:\ :black:\ :msg="SPAM. Your address %A is in the spews level 1 database\n\ See http://www.spews.org/ask.cgi?x=%A for more details":\ :method=http:\ :file=www.openbsd.org/spamd/spews_list_level1.txt.gz: spews2:\ :black:\ :msg="SPAM. Your address %A is in the spews level 2 database\n\ See http://www.spews.org/ask.cgi?x=%A for more details":\ :method=http:\ :file=www.openbsd.org/spamd/spews_list_level2.txt.gz: china:\ :black:\ :msg="SPAM. Your address %A appears to be from China\n\ See http://www.okean.com/asianspamblocks.html for more details":\ :method=http:\ :file=www.openbsd.org/spamd/chinacidr.txt.gz: korea:\ :black:\ :msg="SPAM. Your address %A appears to be from Korea\n\ See http://www.okean.com/asianspamblocks.html for more details":\ :method=http:\ :file=www.openbsd.org/spamd/koreacidr.txt.gz: whitelist:\ :white:\ :file=/usr/local/etc/spamd/whitelist: relaydb-black:\ :black:\ :msg="SPAM. Your address %A is in my relaydb list.":\ :method=exec:\ :file=relaydb -4lb: relaydb-white:\ :white:\ :method=exec:\ :file=relaydb -4lw: --- I'm missing something obvious, I'm sure... something so obvious that everyone else has caught it. Any suggestions? Thanks, ==ml -- Michael W. Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org http://www.BlackHelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Latest book: PGP & GPG -- http://www.pgpandgpg.com "The cloak of anonymity protects me from the nuisance of caring." -Non Sequitur From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 23:50:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A617C16A40F for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E0C43D77 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:49:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from [66.47.111.183] (helo=joeandlane.com) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GbQbG-0004cK-R3 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:49:59 -0400 Received: from joeandlane.com (localhost.localnet.local [127.0.0.1]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9LNqkJK034987 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:52:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id k9LNqksB034986 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:52:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) From: Lane To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:52:46 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610211852.46359.lane@joeandlane.com> X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner-From: lane@joeandlane.com X-ELNK-Trace: e56a4b6ca9bdfda11aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec797326e07b1590b32d46125bd37d10b431350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.47.111.183 Cc: Subject: Wireless Inspiron 6400 anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:50:06 -0000 Hello, I've a new inspiron 6400 running FreeBSD 6.1 and I can't get Wireless to work. It works on WXP using the Dell WLAN drivers at http://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R115321.EXE I've followed the instructions at http://dannyman.toldme.com/2005/01/05/freebsd-howto-ndisulate-windows-drivers/ but no ndis driver shows up after kldload if_ndis. ifconfig -a looks like: bfe0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=8 inet6 fe80::215:c5ff:feb8:39e%bfe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 172.16.1.42 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 172.16.1.255 ether 00:15:c5:b8:03:9e media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active fwe0: flags=108943 mtu 1500 options=8 inet6 fe80::304f:c0ff:fe9c:7541%fwe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 255.255.255.255 ether 32:4f:c0:9c:75:41 ch 1 dma 0 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 It seems as if the fwe0 devices wants to be the wireless, as the bfe0 driver is my "wired" ethernet card. pciconf -lv gives vendor and class as "Broadcom" and "network," but does not show the device information, so I'm stumped. hostb0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x01bd1028 chip=0x27a08086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI none0@pci0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x01bd1028 chip=0x27a28086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = display subclass = VGA none1@pci0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x01bd1028 chip=0x27a68086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = display none2@pci0:27:0: class=0x040300 card=0x01bd1028 chip=0x27d88086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio' class = multimedia pcib1@pci0:28:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000040 chip=0x27d08086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib2@pci0:28:3: class=0x060400 card=0x00000040 chip=0x27d68086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI uhci0@pci0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01bd1028 chip=0x27c88086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci1@pci0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01bd1028 chip=0x27c98086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci2@pci0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01bd1028 chip=0x27ca8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci3@pci0:29:3: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01bd1028 chip=0x27cb8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci0@pci0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x01bd1028 chip=0x27cc8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib3@pci0:30:0: class=0x060401 card=0x00000050 chip=0x24488086 rev=0xe1 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801BAM/CAM/DBM (ICH2-M/3-M/4-M) Hub Interface to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x01bd1028 chip=0x27b98086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Controller' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA atapci0@pci0:31:2: class=0x010180 card=0x01bd1028 chip=0x27c48086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801GBM/GHM (ICH7-M Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA none3@pci0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x01bd1028 chip=0x27da8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus none4@pci11:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x00071028 chip=0x431114e4 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' class = network bfe0@pci3:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x01af1028 chip=0x170c14e4 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' device = 'BCM440x 100Base-TX Fast Ethernet' class = network subclass = ethernet fwohci0@pci3:1:0: class=0x0c0010 card=0x01bd1028 chip=0x08321180 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Ricoh Co Ltd' class = serial bus subclass = FireWire none5@pci3:1:1: class=0x080501 card=0x01bd1028 chip=0x08221180 rev=0x19 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Ricoh Co Ltd' device = 'SD Bus Host Adapter' class = base peripheral none6@pci3:1:2: class=0x088000 card=0x01bd1028 chip=0x08431180 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Ricoh Co Ltd' class = base peripheral none7@pci3:1:3: class=0x088000 card=0x01bd1028 chip=0x05921180 rev=0x0a hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Ricoh Co Ltd' device = 'Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter' class = base peripheral none8@pci3:1:4: class=0x088000 card=0x01bd1028 chip=0x08521180 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Ricoh Co Ltd' class = base peripheral Any help is appreciated. lane