From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 26 10:10:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: small@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E78616A41F; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from pasmtp.tele.dk (pasmtp.tele.dk [193.162.159.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D407A43D45; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:10:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (0x535c0e2a.sgnxx1.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [83.92.14.42]) by pasmtp.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837671EC31D; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:10:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2QAAaB9067813; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:10:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: current@freebsd.org, small@freebsd.org From: Poul-Henning Kamp Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:10:36 +0200 Message-ID: <67812.1143367836@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Cc: Subject: Build option survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:10:39 -0000 The build option survey is online again, now with all the new and improved build options which Ruslan has provided us with: http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/build_options/ Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 26 21:31:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: small@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B8A16A400; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:31:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darren.pilgrim@bitfreak.org) Received: from mail.bitfreak.org (mail.bitfreak.org [65.75.198.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C601D43D5A; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:31:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from darren.pilgrim@bitfreak.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (mail.bitfreak.org [65.75.198.146]) by mail.bitfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBCC19F2C; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:31:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <44270819.2080604@bitfreak.org> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:31:05 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Poul-Henning Kamp References: <67812.1143367836@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <67812.1143367836@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: current@freebsd.org, small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Build option survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:31:12 -0000 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > The build option survey is online again, now with all the new > and improved build options which Ruslan has provided us with: > > http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/build_options/ If it's advised to use the same initial make env for building and installing, why perform the BuildWorld and InstallWorld tests in the survey? Doesn't that pretty much guarantee something will break? From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 27 05:25:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: small@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5B116A41F; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 05:25:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from pasmtp.tele.dk (pasmtp.tele.dk [193.162.159.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3361C43D49; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 05:25:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (0x535c0e2a.sgnxx1.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [83.92.14.42]) by pasmtp.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B921EC31E; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:25:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2R5PFgj071544; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:25:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Darren Pilgrim From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:31:05 -0800." <44270819.2080604@bitfreak.org> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:25:15 +0200 Message-ID: <71543.1143437115@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Cc: current@freebsd.org, small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Build option survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 05:25:25 -0000 In message <44270819.2080604@bitfreak.org>, Darren Pilgrim writes: >Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> The build option survey is online again, now with all the new >> and improved build options which Ruslan has provided us with: >> >> http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/build_options/ > >If it's advised to use the same initial make env for building and >installing, why perform the BuildWorld and InstallWorld tests in the survey? > Doesn't that pretty much guarantee something will break? Study the table carefully, there are options that are only valid for build- or installworld. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 27 11:03:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4D116A41F for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:03:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861DA43D45 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:03:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2RB38ig062383 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:03:08 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k2RB37UW062377 for freebsd-small@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:03:07 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:03:07 GMT Message-Id: <200603271103.k2RB37UW062377@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:03:09 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/01/04] misc/15876 small PicoBSD message of the day problems o [2001/06/18] misc/28255 small picobsd documentation still references ol o [2002/09/13] kern/42728 small many problems in src/usr.sbin/ppp/* afte o [2003/05/14] misc/52255 small picobsd build script fails under FreeBSD o [2003/05/14] misc/52256 small picobsd build script does not read in use 5 problems total. From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 28 02:31:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: small@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D3016A401; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darren.pilgrim@bitfreak.org) Received: from mail.bitfreak.org (mail.bitfreak.org [65.75.198.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F1C43D45; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:31:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from darren.pilgrim@bitfreak.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (mail.bitfreak.org [65.75.198.146]) by mail.bitfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01AB919F2C; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:31:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <44289FEF.7000008@bitfreak.org> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:31:11 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Poul-Henning Kamp References: <71543.1143437115@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <71543.1143437115@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: current@freebsd.org, small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Build option survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:31:15 -0000 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <44270819.2080604@bitfreak.org>, Darren Pilgrim writes: >> Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >>> The build option survey is online again, now with all the new >>> and improved build options which Ruslan has provided us with: >>> >>> http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/build_options/ >> If it's advised to use the same initial make env for building and >> installing, why perform the BuildWorld and InstallWorld tests in the survey? >> Doesn't that pretty much guarantee something will break? > > Study the table carefully, there are options that are only valid for > build- or installworld. Right, but these are make.conf options so they'll be present in the environment for both regardless of if/how they're used in either target. Why run tests with inconsistent environments? From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 28 16:03:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: small@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E3716A4D4; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhein@timing.com) Received: from Daffy.timing.com (w.timing.com [206.168.13.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E0843FD8; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:03:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhein@timing.com) Received: from gromit.timing.com (gromit.timing.com [206.168.13.209]) by Daffy.timing.com (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k2SG35W3053477; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:03:05 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jhein@timing.com) Received: from gromit.timing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gromit.timing.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2SG33jO060059; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:03:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jhein@gromit.timing.com) Received: (from jhein@localhost) by gromit.timing.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k2SG32nA060056; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:03:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jhein) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17449.24117.693739.325109@gromit.timing.com> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:03:01 -0700 From: John E Hein To: Darren Pilgrim In-Reply-To: <44289FEF.7000008@bitfreak.org> References: <71543.1143437115@critter.freebsd.dk> <44289FEF.7000008@bitfreak.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on Daffy.timing.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , current@freebsd.org, small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Build option survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:03:50 -0000 Darren Pilgrim wrote at 18:31 -0800 on Mar 27, 2006: > Right, but these are make.conf options so they'll be present in the > environment for both regardless of if/how they're used in either target. > Why run tests with inconsistent environments? There are cases where one might want to build one subset of FreeBSD and install another. Typically the install subset is entirely contained within the build subset. For instance, one might not want to install gcc on a 16 MB target. In these cases we're more concerned with the space savings in the installworld column. Nevertheless, it's still nice to know what kind of space savings one gets due to the different buildworld knobs. This is useful for chroot/jail size allocation planning. Also... you don't have to put these options in make.conf (or more recently src.conf). You can pass them on the command line or in your environment. There are numerous ways to pass one set of options to buildworld and another to installworld. 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