From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 15:31:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B6116A421 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 15:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8F013C483 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 15:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4616746D6D for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 11:10:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 11:10:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: advocacy@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20070527110910.R28780@fledge.watson.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Latest BSDTalk interview -- FreeBSD Core Team X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 15:31:43 -0000 Several of us sat down with Will Backman at BSDCan 2007 to discuss what the FreeBSD core team does, and the FreeBSD Project in general, as part of BSDTalk 114: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ I found I could neatly subscribe to and download from the Podcast using iTunes. There are several other interviews up from BSDCan in the same series. Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 08:44:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D113B16A41F for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 08:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomany@toomany.net) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91FE13C483 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 08:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomany@toomany.net) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m33so120037wag for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 01:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.13.1 with SMTP id 1mr297152wam.1180599326778; Thu, 31 May 2007 01:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.33.7 with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2007 01:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 10:15:26 +0200 From: "TooMany Secrets" To: advocacy@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Article about FreeBSD and GNU/Linux (not vs.). X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 08:44:43 -0000 Hi! Excuse me my bad english please... In OSnews there is a new article about similarities and diferences between a FreeBSD system, and GNU/Linux. The article (I think) is newbie oriented, and isn't very deep (if you understand me), but the good one is it isn't a "bsd vs. linux" article. I only found one inaccuracy; "for example the most recent release is 6.1.", but in general is a good entrance for people interested in FreeBSD. The article: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/comparing_linux_and_freebsd?page=0%2C0 -- Have a nice day ;-) TooManySecrets ============================ Nine megs for the secretaries fair, Seven megs for the hackers scarce, Five megs for the grads in smoky lairs, Three megs for system source; One disk to rule them all, One disk to bind them, One disk to hold the files And in the darkness grind 'em. ============================ From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 16:33:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B163A16A41F for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 16:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fcash@sd73.bc.ca) Received: from smtp.sd73.bc.ca (smtp.sd73.bc.ca [142.24.13.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9418A13C480 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 16:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fcash@sd73.bc.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA5A1A000B19 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 09:06:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.sd73.bc.ca Received: from smtp.sd73.bc.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.sd73.bc.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Rp6EtlI6YE-z for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 09:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.sd73.bc.ca (webmail.sd73.bc.ca [10.10.10.17]) by smtp.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907231A000B17 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 09:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 66.183.237.91 (SquirrelMail authenticated user fcash) by webmail.sd73.bc.ca with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2007 09:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46520.66.183.237.91.1180627602.squirrel@webmail.sd73.bc.ca> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:06:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Freddie Cash" To: advocacy@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Article about FreeBSD and GNU/Linux (not vs.). X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 16:33:21 -0000 On Thu, May 31, 2007 1:15 am, TooMany Secrets wrote: > In OSnews there is a new article about similarities and diferences > between a FreeBSD system, and GNU/Linux. The article (I think) is newbie > oriented, and isn't very deep (if you understand me), but the good one is > it isn't a "bsd vs. linux" article. I only found one inaccuracy; "for > example the most recent release is 6.1.", but in general is a good > entrance for people interested in FreeBSD. > > The article: > http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/comparing_linux_and_freebsd? > page=0%2C0 This "article" is very poorly written, and even more poorly researched. It is full of inaccuracies, and not worth reading. Read the through the comments on OSNews to see all things wrong with the article. ---- Freddie Cash, LPIC-2 CCNT CCLP Helpdesk / Network Support Tech. School District 73 (250) 377-HELP [377-4357] fcash@sd73.bc.ca helpdesk@sd73.bc.ca From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 16:33:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B208F16A421 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 16:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca) Received: from smtp.sd73.bc.ca (smtp.sd73.bc.ca [142.24.13.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9444813C483 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 16:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D3B1A000B25 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 09:08:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.sd73.bc.ca Received: from smtp.sd73.bc.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.sd73.bc.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id RiYmQqy4-a9u for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 09:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.sd73.bc.ca (webmail.sd73.bc.ca [10.10.10.17]) by smtp.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70A51A000B21 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 09:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 66.183.237.91 (SquirrelMail authenticated user fcash) by webmail.sd73.bc.ca with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2007 09:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46529.66.183.237.91.1180627694.squirrel@webmail.sd73.bc.ca> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:08:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "Freddie Cash" To: advocacy@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Article about FreeBSD and GNU/Linux (not vs.). X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 16:33:21 -0000 On Thu, May 31, 2007 1:15 am, TooMany Secrets wrote: > In OSnews there is a new article about similarities and diferences > between a FreeBSD system, and GNU/Linux. The article (I think) is newbie > oriented, and isn't very deep (if you understand me), but the good one is > it isn't a "bsd vs. linux" article. I only found one inaccuracy; "for > example the most recent release is 6.1.", but in general is a good > entrance for people interested in FreeBSD. > > The article: > http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/comparing_linux_and_freebsd? > page=0%2C0 This "article" is very poorly written, and even more poorly researched. It is full of inaccuracies, and not worth reading. Read the through the comments on OSNews to see all things wrong with the article. ---- Freddie Cash, LPIC-2 CCNT CCLP Helpdesk / Network Support Tech. School District 73 (250) 377-HELP [377-4357] fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 20:06:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0284E16A46F for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 20:06:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from host222.ipowerweb.com (host222.ipowerweb.com [66.235.210.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D320813C45B for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 20:06:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 10518 invoked from network); 31 May 2007 19:36:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO demeter.hydra) (24.9.123.251) by host222.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 31 May 2007 19:36:57 -0000 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l4VJdrJk050020; Thu, 31 May 2007 13:39:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l4VJdpjE050019; Thu, 31 May 2007 13:39:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 13:39:51 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: Freddie Cash Message-ID: <20070531193951.GC49734@demeter.hydra> References: <46520.66.183.237.91.1180627602.squirrel@webmail.sd73.bc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46520.66.183.237.91.1180627602.squirrel@webmail.sd73.bc.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Article about FreeBSD and GNU/Linux (not vs.). X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 20:06:37 -0000 On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 09:06:42AM -0700, Freddie Cash wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2007 1:15 am, TooMany Secrets wrote: > > In OSnews there is a new article about similarities and diferences > > between a FreeBSD system, and GNU/Linux. The article (I think) is newbie > > oriented, and isn't very deep (if you understand me), but the good one is > > it isn't a "bsd vs. linux" article. I only found one inaccuracy; "for > > example the most recent release is 6.1.", but in general is a good > > entrance for people interested in FreeBSD. > > > > The article: > > http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/comparing_linux_and_freebsd? > > page=0%2C0 > > This "article" is very poorly written, and even more poorly researched. > It is full of inaccuracies, and not worth reading. Read the through the > comments on OSNews to see all things wrong with the article. It's very superficial in some respects, and it strays into inaccuracy by way of a lack of precision, but it's better written than a lot of supposedly "professional journalism" I've seen and might be worth a read by someone new to FreeBSD and uncertain of how to resolve the immediate differences, I think. One of the comments at OSNews -- the one that pointed out all the "inaccuracies" -- was in places a bit more pedantic than informative, but it also provided some useful elaborations. I think the format of this new article may have been a bit of a clone of articles by Dru Lavigne at ONLamp, the author of O'Reilly's "BSD Hacks" book. They might be more useful, all things considered. I seem to recall seeing links to Dru Lavigne's articles in the comments at OSNews. Umm . . . Here they are: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/11/11/FreeBSD_Basics.html http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/01/13/FreeBSD_Basics.html Also, the URL of the OSNews item (since it's not at the top of the list any longer): http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=17998 -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Paul Graham: "Real ugliness is not harsh-looking syntax, but having to build programs out of the wrong concepts." From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 01:32:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D87316A41F for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 01:32:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reed@reedmedia.net) Received: from ca.pugetsoundtechnology.com (ca.pugetsoundtechnology.com [38.99.2.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C8613C447 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 01:32:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reed@reedmedia.net) Received: from pool-71-123-204-253.dllstx.fios.verizon.net ([71.123.204.253] helo=reedmedia.net) by ca.pugetsoundtechnology.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1HtvNe-0005hl-SU; Thu, 31 May 2007 17:52:39 -0700 Received: from reed@reedmedia.net by reedmedia.net with local (mailout 0.17) id 10319-1180659154; Thu, 31 May 2007 19:52:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 19:52:34 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeremy C. Reed" To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20070531193951.GC49734@demeter.hydra> Message-ID: References: <46520.66.183.237.91.1180627602.squirrel@webmail.sd73.bc.ca> <20070531193951.GC49734@demeter.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org, Freddie Cash Subject: Re: Article about FreeBSD and GNU/Linux (not vs.). X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:32:53 -0000 On Thu, 31 May 2007, Chad Perrin wrote: > I think the format of this new article may have been a bit of a clone of > articles by Dru Lavigne at ONLamp, the author of O'Reilly's "BSD Hacks" > book. They might be more useful, all things considered. I seem to > recall seeing links to Dru Lavigne's articles in the comments at OSNews. By the way ... Dru's FreeBSD Basics -- including FreeBSD for Linux users/admins -- will be available in her upcoming FreeBSD Basics book. Stay tuned. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 03:32:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A1616A41F for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 03:32:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from host222.ipowerweb.com (host222.ipowerweb.com [66.235.210.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0149513C44B for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 03:32:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 3222 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2007 03:29:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO demeter.hydra) (24.9.123.251) by host222.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 1 Jun 2007 03:29:44 -0000 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l513WgAt051605 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 21:32:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l513Wfc1051604 for advocacy@freebsd.org; Thu, 31 May 2007 21:32:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 21:32:41 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: advocacy@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070601033241.GE49734@demeter.hydra> References: <46520.66.183.237.91.1180627602.squirrel@webmail.sd73.bc.ca> <20070531193951.GC49734@demeter.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Subject: Re: Article about FreeBSD and GNU/Linux (not vs.). X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 03:32:49 -0000 On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 07:52:34PM -0500, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > On Thu, 31 May 2007, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > I think the format of this new article may have been a bit of a clone of > > articles by Dru Lavigne at ONLamp, the author of O'Reilly's "BSD Hacks" > > book. They might be more useful, all things considered. I seem to > > recall seeing links to Dru Lavigne's articles in the comments at OSNews. > > By the way ... > > Dru's FreeBSD Basics -- including FreeBSD for Linux users/admins -- will > be available in her upcoming FreeBSD Basics book. > > Stay tuned. Thanks for the information. Is that going to be another O'Reilly book? -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Dr. Ron Paul: "Liberty has meaning only if we still believe in it when terrible things happen and a false government security blanket beckons." From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 09:32:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA8C16A400 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dlavigne6@sympatico.ca) Received: from tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net (bc.sympatico.ca [209.226.175.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0EF13C465 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dlavigne6@sympatico.ca) Received: from dru.domain.org ([70.55.185.8]) by tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20070601093214.MROA875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@dru.domain.org>; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 05:32:14 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 05:40:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Dru X-X-Sender: dlavigne6@dru.domain.org To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20070601033241.GE49734@demeter.hydra> Message-ID: <20070601053925.K638@dru.domain.org> References: <46520.66.183.237.91.1180627602.squirrel@webmail.sd73.bc.ca> <20070531193951.GC49734@demeter.hydra> <20070601033241.GE49734@demeter.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Article about FreeBSD and GNU/Linux (not vs.). X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 09:32:16 -0000 On Thu, 31 May 2007, Chad Perrin wrote: >>> I think the format of this new article may have been a bit of a clone of >>> articles by Dru Lavigne at ONLamp, the author of O'Reilly's "BSD Hacks" >>> book. They might be more useful, all things considered. I seem to >>> recall seeing links to Dru Lavigne's articles in the comments at OSNews. >> >> By the way ... >> >> Dru's FreeBSD Basics -- including FreeBSD for Linux users/admins -- will >> be available in her upcoming FreeBSD Basics book. >> >> Stay tuned. > > Thanks for the information. Is that going to be another O'Reilly book? Nope, this time it is through Jeremy Reed's publishing company: http://reedmedia.net/books/freebsd-basics/ Cheers, Dru From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 09:47:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470FF16A49C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:47:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from host222.ipowerweb.com (host222.ipowerweb.com [66.235.210.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2706E13C447 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:47:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 85055 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2007 09:44:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO demeter.hydra) (24.9.123.251) by host222.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 1 Jun 2007 09:44:44 -0000 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l519lfLF053893 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 03:47:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l519leln053892 for advocacy@freebsd.org; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 03:47:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 03:47:40 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: advocacy@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070601094740.GA53869@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: advocacy@freebsd.org References: <46520.66.183.237.91.1180627602.squirrel@webmail.sd73.bc.ca> <20070531193951.GC49734@demeter.hydra> <20070601033241.GE49734@demeter.hydra> <20070601053925.K638@dru.domain.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070601053925.K638@dru.domain.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Subject: Re: Article about FreeBSD and GNU/Linux (not vs.). X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 09:47:47 -0000 On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 05:40:21AM -0400, Dru wrote: > On Thu, 31 May 2007, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > >Thanks for the information. Is that going to be another O'Reilly book? > > Nope, this time it is through Jeremy Reed's publishing company: > > http://reedmedia.net/books/freebsd-basics/ > > Cheers, > > Dru Thanks! I'll keep an eye out for it. I have BSD Hacks on my shelf, and quite like it -- I'm looking forward to more high quality BSD stuff. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Marvin Minsky: "It's just incredible that a trillion-synapse computer could actually spend Saturday afternoon watching a football game." From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 14:08:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D87716A400 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 14:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnsanchez@wait4.org) Received: from sumo.dreamhost.com (sumo.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A4413C447 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 14:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnsanchez@wait4.org) Received: from spunkymail-a11.g.dreamhost.com (sd-green-bigip-177.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.177]) by sumo.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB648187762 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 06:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sauron.lan.box (unknown [200.180.169.4]) by spunkymail-a11.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02889B83A9; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 06:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 10:43:27 -0300 From: Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez To: Dru Message-Id: <20070601104327.3ee88e9f.rnsanchez@wait4.org> In-Reply-To: <20070601053925.K638@dru.domain.org> References: <46520.66.183.237.91.1180627602.squirrel@webmail.sd73.bc.ca> <20070531193951.GC49734@demeter.hydra> <20070601033241.GE49734@demeter.hydra> <20070601053925.K638@dru.domain.org> Organization: SYS_WAIT4 X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.2 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i386-unknown-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Article about FreeBSD and GNU/Linux (not vs.). X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:08:42 -0000 On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 05:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Dru wrote: > Nope, this time it is through Jeremy Reed's publishing company: > > http://reedmedia.net/books/freebsd-basics/ >From the TOC it seems to maintain your BSD Hacks style, which I enjoyed very much. Best wishes with the upcoming book! :) -- Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez rnsanchez@wait4.org Powered by FreeBSD "Left to themselves, things tend to go from bad to worse." From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 17:55:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B22816A421 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 17:55:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from liontaur@dslr.net) Received: from mail.dslr.net (mail.dslreports.com [209.123.192.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4E213C465 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 17:55:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from liontaur@dslr.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.dslr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75E3426F7 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 13:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.dslr.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (coral.dslreports.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04069-02 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 13:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.dslr.net (Postfix, from userid 997) id 4DA7F42707; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 13:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (208-98-202-204.cable.dynamic.sunwave.net [208.98.202.204]) by mail.dslr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16026426F7 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 13:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <46605606.6080500@dslr.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:23:18 -0700 From: Liontaur User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: advocacy@freebsd.org References: <46520.66.183.237.91.1180627602.squirrel@webmail.sd73.bc.ca> <20070531193951.GC49734@demeter.hydra> <20070601033241.GE49734@demeter.hydra> <20070601053925.K638@dru.domain.org> In-Reply-To: <20070601053925.K638@dru.domain.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dslr.net Cc: Subject: Re: Article about FreeBSD and GNU/Linux (not vs.). X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 17:55:20 -0000 You know, I was just thinking it's about time I got a new FreeBSD book :) I loved the BSD Hacks book Dru, well worth it's.... ok, my weight in gold! Just for the introduction to screen as watch has some shortcomings. I'm sure a little heads up when the book is actually available would be appreciated, I know it would be by me. Mark Dru wrote: > > > On Thu, 31 May 2007, Chad Perrin wrote: > >>>> I think the format of this new article may have been a bit of a >>>> clone of >>>> articles by Dru Lavigne at ONLamp, the author of O'Reilly's "BSD >>>> Hacks" >>>> book. They might be more useful, all things considered. I seem to >>>> recall seeing links to Dru Lavigne's articles in the comments at >>>> OSNews. >>> >>> By the way ... >>> >>> Dru's FreeBSD Basics -- including FreeBSD for Linux users/admins -- >>> will >>> be available in her upcoming FreeBSD Basics book. >>> >>> Stay tuned. >> >> Thanks for the information. Is that going to be another O'Reilly book? > > > Nope, this time it is through Jeremy Reed's publishing company: > > http://reedmedia.net/books/freebsd-basics/ > > Cheers, > > Dru > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 00:16:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BBA16A46C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 00:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from host222.ipowerweb.com (host222.ipowerweb.com [66.235.210.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AEFD013C45E for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 00:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 19678 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2007 00:13:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO demeter.hydra) (24.9.123.251) by host222.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 2 Jun 2007 00:13:23 -0000 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l520GOtg056912 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 18:16:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l520GN0m056911 for advocacy@freebsd.org; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 18:16:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 18:16:23 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: advocacy@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070602001623.GB56833@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: advocacy@freebsd.org References: <46520.66.183.237.91.1180627602.squirrel@webmail.sd73.bc.ca> <20070531193951.GC49734@demeter.hydra> <20070601033241.GE49734@demeter.hydra> <20070601053925.K638@dru.domain.org> <46605606.6080500@dslr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46605606.6080500@dslr.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Subject: Re: Article about FreeBSD and GNU/Linux (not vs.). X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 00:16:25 -0000 On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:23:18AM -0700, Liontaur wrote: > You know, I was just thinking it's about time I got a new FreeBSD book :) > > I loved the BSD Hacks book Dru, well worth it's.... ok, my weight in > gold! Just for the introduction to screen as watch has some shortcomings. Well worth its *volume* in gold . . . ? Maybe that's what you mean. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] print substr("Just another Perl hacker", 0, -2);