From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 2 11:08:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE9A16A421 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:08:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAD213C487 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:08:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l62B8RNC082572 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:08:27 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l62B8PNE082568 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:08:25 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:08:25 GMT Message-Id: <200707021108.l62B8PNE082568@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:08:27 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o alpha/75317 alpha [busdma] [patch] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha 1 problem total. Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f alpha/59116 alpha [ntfs] mount_ntfs of a Windows 2000-formatted fs cause o alpha/61940 alpha [sysinstall] Can't disklabel new disk from FreeBSD/alp o alpha/61973 alpha Machine Check on boot-up of AlphaServer 2100A RM s alpha/67626 alpha X crashes an alpha machine, resulting reboot o alpha/85346 alpha PREEMPTION causes unstability in Alpha4000 SMP kernel o alpha/105134 alpha 'panic: lockmgr: thread ... not exclusive lock owner' 6 problems total. Non-critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o alpha/25284 alpha PC164 won't reboot with graphics console o alpha/38031 alpha osf1.ko not loaded during boot-time of linux-emu enabl o alpha/48676 alpha Changing the baud rate of serial consoles for Alpha sy o alpha/50868 alpha fd0 floppy device is not mapped into /dev (XP1000) Fre o alpha/66478 alpha unexpected machine check: panic for 4.9, 4.10, 5.2 or o alpha/67903 alpha hw.chipset.memory: 1099511627776 - thats way to much : 6 problems total. From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 3 16:36:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020F816A421 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdogden@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B635C13C46E for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdogden@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so1045335wxd for ; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:36:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id:thread-topic:thread-index:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Gs6fbEhgCyffhqKwRbUMaoCFkmp3W0FKClstWvJAUFX4ccJ+WW02l71UseNdlNZR5tUMaSJGVXbNNfb+DEPYxDe44XmO1+0sMXFsIQJSq5jtVDGHc0Qw913i+BXHB7+3nyu0Ou5IKqyIMopSy4murY7zgsp5QlByHekVPZuzO6Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id:thread-topic:thread-index:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ubnm66HcAoTXdAQsri9kCe58Z1dzSz5fc9IwXV9GP2lRnm0VmjqQ0WRUN/oYKH7cp9JrWrKeYaIWtVi9lTSXH/AsWiTWCUdc3EaEkrOS9Nf0IGxPJRc5KD+KQJ5vCHtQqiQxlfFT+wHDaqwgdEuYpWedhQJam9Z1cXmJ4JfiOLc= Received: by 10.90.90.3 with SMTP id n3mr6364291agb.1183478831725; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.12.1.232? ( [209.50.101.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 6sm18496511wrh.2007.07.03.09.07.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:07:10 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.3.3.061214 Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:06:51 -0400 From: Kevin Ogden To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: AlphaServer 4100 LCD Thread-Index: Ace9jCqIaSdKnil/EdyYjwAwZaGUoA== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: AlphaServer 4100 LCD X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:36:23 -0000 Is there any easy way to write anything to the built-in LCD on the AlphaServer 4x00? I was thinking of trying to write a script to display uptime/load averages/etc. Any sysctl variables or anything? Another question, is there really that much of a lack of interest in keeping alpha support going? This box is still a capable server and I really don't want to run Linux or Tru64 once FreeBSD 6 becomes stale. --Kevin D. Ogden From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 3 17:35:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BF516A41F for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 17:35:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1D613C480 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 17:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (obsolete.xs4all.nl [82.95.250.254]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l63HLaLu036115; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:21:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l63HLaQi075003; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:21:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l63HLaJs075002; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:21:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:21:35 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Kevin Ogden Message-ID: <20070703172135.GA74984@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AlphaServer 4100 LCD X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:35:03 -0000 On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 12:06:51PM -0400, Kevin Ogden wrote.. > Is there any easy way to write anything to the built-in LCD on the > AlphaServer 4x00? I was thinking of trying to write a script to display > uptime/load averages/etc. Any sysctl variables or anything? You can change it from the SRM >>> prompt. Something like >>> SET OCP_TEXT or similar. > Another question, is there really that much of a lack of interest in keeping Yes, there is that much lack of interest. > alpha support going? This box is still a capable server and I really don't > want to run Linux or Tru64 once FreeBSD 6 becomes stale. Water under the bridge. Unfortunately. -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 3 20:46:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9057A16A46D for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 20:46:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lausts@acm.org) Received: from ms-smtp-01.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C65C13C4EB for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 20:46:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lausts@acm.org) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (cpe-71-79-254-61.woh.res.rr.com [71.79.254.61]) by ms-smtp-01.ohiordc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l63K0Csh019409 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:00:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Thomas Laus" Organization: ABB To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:00:13 -0400 Message-ID: <468A728D.7424.211C39E@lausts.acm.org> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20070703172135.GA74984@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: AlphaServer 4100 LCD X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lausts@acm.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:46:09 -0000 To: Kevin Ogden > On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 12:06:51PM -0400, Kevin Ogden wrote.. > > Is there any easy way to write anything to the built-in LCD on the > > AlphaServer 4x00? I was thinking of trying to write a script to display > > uptime/load averages/etc. Any sysctl variables or anything? > > You can change it from the SRM >>> prompt. Something like > >>> SET OCP_TEXT or similar. > > > Another question, is there really that much of a lack of interest in > keeping > > Yes, there is that much lack of interest. > > > alpha support going? This box is still a capable server and I really > > don't want to run Linux or Tru64 once FreeBSD 6 becomes stale. > > Water under the bridge. Unfortunately. > Kevin: You might want to try OpenBSD & NetBSD as well. The system layout is similar to FreeBSD and have additional hardware that may be supported in your AlphaServer. I was able to get my AlphaStation 255 to successfully boot this week with OpenBSD 4.1 that was released in March 2007. None of the FreeBSD 6.x releases would boot a GENERIC kernel for me and my AS255 was just too slow to perform an update and custom kernel build from source. I was previously running FreeBSD 4.11 which went EOL recently. A buildworld would take me about 30 hours with the debug symbols. I was going to try NetBSD next to see if I could boot the most recent GENERIC kernel on it. The various model Alpha's all seem to have their own little quirks and there is a lot of drivers don't 'play well' with each other. 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Sheesh! -- Richard Loken VE6BSV, Systems Programmer - VMS : "Anybody can be a father Athabasca University : but you have to earn Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'" ** richardlo@admin.athabascau.ca ** : - Lynn Johnston From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 3 22:07:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31ADA16A400 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richardlo@admin.athabascau.ca) Received: from smtp.athabascau.ca (smtp.athabascau.ca [131.232.10.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D0B13C4B8 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richardlo@admin.athabascau.ca) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.local.athabascau.ca by local.athabascau.ca (PMDF V6.2-1x12 #31241) id <0JKM0H801GGY0E@local.athabascau.ca> for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:17:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from audba.admin.athabascau.ca ([131.232.4.21]) by local.athabascau.ca (PMDF V6.2-1x12 #31241) with ESMTP id <0JKM0FN4TGGZWF@local.athabascau.ca>; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:17:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from local.admin.athabascau.ca by local.admin.athabascau.ca (PMDF V6.3-x3 #31462) id <01MIIRERL8DW0000FB@local.admin.athabascau.ca>; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:17:22 -0700 Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:17:22 -0700 From: Richard Loken In-reply-to: <468A728D.7424.211C39E@lausts.acm.org> Sender: richardlo@admin.athabascau.ca To: Thomas Laus Message-id: X-Envelope-from: richardlo@admin.athabascau.ca MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Please-Resend: yes Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AlphaServer 4100 LCD X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:07:25 -0000 On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Thomas Laus wrote: > to perform an update and custom kernel build from source. I was previously > running FreeBSD 4.11 which went EOL recently. A buildworld would take me > about 30 hours with the debug symbols. Maybe there is a place for a FreeBSD Alpha luddites group who could help each other out. I, for instance, am running FreeBSD on a PC164 which has the jam to make world in a reasonable amount of time so I could build a kernel and send it your way as long as we negotiated the appropriate config. Come to that, I don't mind spending 30 hours at the task because I don't have to sit around and watch. OTOH, just as you said, there are NetBSD and OpenBSD and they are a lot more attractive to me than Linux. -- Richard Loken VE6BSV, Systems Programmer - VMS : "Anybody can be a father Athabasca University : but you have to earn Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'" ** richardlo@admin.athabascau.ca ** : - Lynn Johnston From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 3 22:09:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4D416A46B for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richardlo@admin.athabascau.ca) Received: from smtp.athabascau.ca (smtp.athabascau.ca [131.232.10.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B14813C45D for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:09:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richardlo@admin.athabascau.ca) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.local.athabascau.ca by local.athabascau.ca (PMDF V6.2-1x12 #31242) id <0JKM0SJ01G18EK@local.athabascau.ca> for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:07:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from audba.admin.athabascau.ca ([131.232.4.21]) by local.athabascau.ca (PMDF V6.2-1x12 #31242) with ESMTP id <0JKM0SHGXG18KR@local.athabascau.ca>; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:07:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from local.admin.athabascau.ca by local.admin.athabascau.ca (PMDF V6.3-x3 #31462) id <01MIIR323WWU0000FB@local.admin.athabascau.ca>; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:07:56 -0700 Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:07:55 -0700 From: Richard Loken In-reply-to: Sender: richardlo@admin.athabascau.ca To: Kevin Ogden Message-id: X-Envelope-from: richardlo@admin.athabascau.ca MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Please-Resend: yes Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: AlphaServer 4100 LCD X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:09:26 -0000 On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Kevin Ogden wrote: > Is there any easy way to write anything to the built-in LCD on the > AlphaServer 4x00? I was thinking of trying to write a script to display > uptime/load averages/etc. Any sysctl variables or anything? >From "Alphaserver 4100 System Drawer User's Guide" (sigh) on page 5-48 >>> set ocp_text "message" the message can be up to 16 characters long and will be displayed after all the self tests and diagnostics are out of the way. The change does not take place until the machine is reset or initialized. > Another question, is there really that much of a lack of interest in keeping > alpha support going? This box is still a capable server and I really don't > want to run Linux or Tru64 once FreeBSD 6 becomes stale. Those FreeBSD guys are so fickle, give them a bunch of $500.00 3GHz 64bit Intel platforms and they abandon all my favourite big footprint power hogs. I told my FreeBSD buddies that I have been abandoned by FreeBSD and so I was going to put OpenVMS on my various Alpha boxes and all they could do was glumly nod. I was also told how cheaply I could buy AMD 64 bit processors but they didn't have their heart in because they know I don't run current or popular hardware no matter how sensible that might be. OpenVMS is the drug of choice. Linux on Alpha is not so great and HP has abandoned Tru64. HP is stuck with continuing development on Alpha OpenVMS for getting on to ten years and you can get hobby and educational licenses for free. HP has recent versions of Mozilla and the Java Runtime Environment available for OpenVMS version 7.3-1 and later so that puts me a step up from what I can do with FreeBSD and Linux on Alpha at this time. Since there is a Java for VMS maybe Open Office can be ported over there. -- Richard Loken VE6BSV, Systems Programmer - VMS : "Anybody can be a father Athabasca University : but you have to earn Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'" ** richardlo@admin.athabascau.ca ** : - Lynn Johnston From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 5 08:37:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3374B16A476 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandano@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09B413C4F9 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:37:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandano@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so1453987wxd for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:37:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=p4M+4yGwb66lBdjeiGAAmKKyVNSv9096X8zwGcJ4VpYZq9DtRUP+FDCTOLEXGk5wLptHUfjVi+DYz0m7osarvTG7U/qKE+08P98x0+kQMpgK6efBGFVi2eJPzRTkUIbdFinq9ZS/vsH5lBu3jcLcA8M7lGM/TTl4lZqmxc/kK+k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oSiQGazUup4hWi9Y+VwKwbO4QPmOqdfDuPmOPhUt5Ukaco+HwiLn5CGR7ZL1pIotWldRA9zUDHolffRvF6o/0cK6Zr9m/LhURqawzNx67pfRykNc26oXTLEo/qww+5RlwLm5IWHNkntR0daGMI4XbSSzjnQHGS+3CJ5nNkGjOj0= Received: by 10.90.80.8 with SMTP id d8mr7485406agb.1183623158098; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.65.18 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 01:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 10:12:38 +0200 From: "Rafael Ruiz" To: "Kevin Ogden" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AlphaServer 4100 LCD X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 08:37:19 -0000 Hi! In my humble one opinion, the best free operating system for Alpha platform is FreeBSD, especially in SMP systems. But FreeBSD development will be stopped for 7 branch. For this reason, we must to find another operating system. I have used *BSD, and Linux and each has good and not good things. I think that Linux is not appropiated for Alpha, but Debian and Gentoo are very stable distributions with a great numbers of applications ready for use. I have used Debian in many of my Alpha computers and is the operating system with less problems to work on Alpha system generic. I have worked with Debian and Gentoo on AlphaStation 255/300, API UP1100, API CS20, API UP2000, AlphaServer DS10 and DS10L, 164SX and 164LX. After FreeBSD, i have used fully NetBSD. I love NetBSD, and I think it is more faster than Linux, but has some problems in SMP systems, and XFree is difficult to configure for work without problems. I have used caseydoodley patches for XFree. I have some problems with CS20 SMP configuration and X o= n 164SX and 164LX and UP1100. I have never used OpenBSD. I have readed from home page that OpenBSD/Alpha was stopped, but now it seems to be ready again. I will have to check it, but i don=B4t think it different from NetBSD. Which is the future for Alpha plattform? Debian says that never will stop development for Alpha, the port is currently requalifyingfor inclusion. I think that NetBSD never left alpha port, but it need more developers. All comment are my personal opinion only. Thanks to all Alpha free operating systems for his great work. Thanks to FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD, and Linux ports. Rafa 2007/7/3, Kevin Ogden : > > Is there any easy way to write anything to the built-in LCD on the > AlphaServer 4x00? I was thinking of trying to write a script to display > uptime/load averages/etc. Any sysctl variables or anything? > > Another question, is there really that much of a lack of interest in > keeping > alpha support going? This box is still a capable server and I really > don't > want to run Linux or Tru64 once FreeBSD 6 becomes stale. > > --Kevin D. Ogden > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-alpha > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-alpha-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 There are only 10 types people in the world: Those who understand binary and those who don't --