From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 00:04:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F7216A412 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spam_quarantine@xserve1.eeinternational.org) Received: from xserve1.eeinternational.org (50-36-13-69.cust.propagation.net [69.13.36.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8B913C4BB for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:03:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spam_quarantine@xserve1.eeinternational.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xserve1.eeinternational.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074A8371B55D for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:12:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from xserve1.eeinternational.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (50-36-13-69.cust.propagation.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05832-10 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:12:07 -0600 (CST) Received: by xserve1.eeinternational.org (Postfix, from userid 2624) id 0463B37055F9; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:27:53 -0600 (CST) To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org From: no-reply@bussinesideas.com Message-Id: <20070224232753.0463B37055F9@xserve1.eeinternational.org> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:27:53 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at eeinternational.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: http://leet.110mb.com The latest bussiness idea ! 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From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 00:08:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4B816A403 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:08:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED43413C4C4 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:08:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1071070nfc for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:08:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NIgY/wiOGNi9Vk2l+iCv97jlQLTpr4BUUJmVZjsiWBR+2g0DGOvGahXG4VDhU+L+zVqTLLacWH92sEQKW6W/E1Pzep7gFgY+44ibhNHWZ/n5fLvg6oK9cadPDFcrZDTCca/AicNAVXCqeX/A2QYcd4yXOEH7iYujO+TkoBX5uwM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qxEeK10GzVxSEmOJUcUqWGED9cqthLq/ZozkJE4bPB89B9EoOToggjteoWGuWg6qB7MdtRfntHJY0Ovnh3sgSmRUSSO2Feud2mUOEAOOQNpWX6z0kSlpwlz01UVa3m9VQ02maIUR4CK+pUL3BRONzqgMpnLPnLkwGmW7oes029g= Received: by 10.48.216.7 with SMTP id o7mr9245341nfg.1172360370751; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:39:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.123.111? ( [81.182.9.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id y2sm13998570mug.2007.02.24.15.39.29; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:39:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45E0CCBD.6050409@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:39:41 +0100 From: deeptech71@gmail.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew McDonald References: <86hctds1wv.fsf@dwp.des.no> <45DF9328.8080106@highperformance.net> <45DFBC1A.8000908@evilphi.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Darren Pilgrim , =?windows-1252?Q?rgrav?= , =?windows-1252?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8?=, chat@freebsd.org, "Jason C. Wells" Subject: Re: newspeak X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:08:07 -0000 Matthew McDonald wrote: > Well, because if it involves hacking it's obviously not as legitimate as > anything that a corporation would do. After all, hackers are malicious by > nature. > > -Matt McDonald "The idea of hacking may conjure up stylized images of electronic vandalism, espionage, dyed hair, and body piercings. Most people associate hacking with breaking the law, therefore dubbing all those who engage in hacking activities to be criminals. Granted, there are people out there who use hacking techniques to break the law, but hacking isn't really about that. In fact, hacking is more about following the law than breaking it. The essence of hacking is finding unintended or overlooked uses for the laws and properties of a given situation and then applying them in new and inventive ways to solve a problem. The problem could be the lack of access to a computer system or figuring out a way to make old phone equipment control a model railroad system. Usually, the hacked solutions solve these problems in unique ways, unimaginable by those confined to conventional methodology. In the late 1950s, the MIT model railroad club was given a donation of parts, most of which were old telephone equipment. The members used this equipment to rig up a complex system that allowed multiple operators to control different parts of the track by dialing into the appropriate section. They called this new and inventive use of equipment "hacking", and many consider this group to be the original hackers. They moved on to programming on punchcards and ticker tape for early computers like the IBM 704 and the TX-0. While others were content with just writing programs that solved problems, the early hackers were obsessed with writing programs that solved problems well. A program that could achieve the same result using fewer punchcards was considered better, even though it did the same thing. The key difference was how the program achieved its results—elegance. Being able to reduce the number of punchcards needed for a program showed an artistic mastery over the computer, which was admired and appreciated by those who understood it. Analogously, a block of wood might solve the problem of supporting a vase, but a nicely crafted table built using refined techniques sure looks a lot better. The early hackers were transforming programming from an engineering task into an art form, which, like many forms of art, could only be appreciated by those who got it and would be misunderstood by those who didn't. This approach to programming created an informal subculture, separating those who appreciated the beauty of hacking from those who were oblivious to it. This subculture was intensely focused on learning more and gaining yet higher levels of mastery over their art. They believed that information should be free, and anything that stood in the way of that freedom should be circumvented. Such obstructions included authority figures, the bureaucracy of college classes, and discrimination. In a sea of graduation-driven students, this unofficial group of hackers defied the conventional goals of getting good grades, instead pursuing knowledge itself. This drive to continuously learn and explore transcended even the conventional boundaries drawn by discrimination, evident in the group's acceptance of 12-year-old Peter Deutsch when he demonstrated his knowledge of the TX-0 and his desire to learn. Age, race, gender, appearance, academic degrees, and social status were not primary criteria for judging another's worth—this was not because of a desire for equality, but because of a desire to advance the emerging art of hacking." THIS QUOTE WAS PIRATED FROM A COPY OF Hacking: The Art of Exploitation by Jon Erickson ISBN:1593270070 No Starch Press © 2003 ;) From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 11:25:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BEF16A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:25:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacekartymiak@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E4813C48E for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:25:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacekartymiak@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so965504wxc for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:25:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=d3YErbqBN06/ud9gVfB6EzhWqyfpIcl6zPK1e12pOAI8FdpHbvRFTtZzp/d33WBcedLi4fGcn/RnC7vVysc72cqYgX8xlSU+geq4uX8tWgBpOnWqRUGxvTuu0+5jWnrRk6gkRyh8TOjwjWIgxgUepvhD8h1CL9nBmiytrut+Zh4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=d27ce4cwstwaGoFcmuawmjGrCbI8y+RyiK5ljWuuTGAd24sfsfFMEqZmuqKQiBdgjmpiahgeNixmXa+tG/uVa0GfhdZOYjRIdIfjupfq2O4lHyW2IS6tPD58XeuNhEIYvfqW1C7eEjOuE7iktZItSOPa8lMHvGz5XobbxLR/OoQ= Received: by 10.114.13.1 with SMTP id 1mr1729173wam.1172400985388; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:56:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.26.6 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:56:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:56:25 +0100 From: "Jacek Artymiak" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Free invites to the RadioBSD beta X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:25:32 -0000 I don't want to clutter this group, but I'm trying to reach those 90+ people who haven't responded to the the invites I sent out last week. I'll be closing beta access on Monday so if you don't respond, you won't get your free access for life. If you moved, changed your email address, etc. check the following page to see if you qualify: http://www.devguide.net/index.php?q=node/78 And I won't be giving more invites away. We already have 70+ beta testers. -- Jacek Artymiak devGuide.net :: RadioBSD From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 11:25:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F8A16A402 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:25:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacekartymiak@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B5F13C4B9 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:25:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacekartymiak@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so104122wri for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:25:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=YNpU4HJqnuKqyS3MKUkOMbHuvEqb1bUU874Y664QQ15RA8nmLRv8KwfBZj0aOYAtndRerWyN4gDK5NRTgwlJgxb7kNj1uCqDk6Kgt7EPEL3rQahmyafFozolUj7ugmVxEKEGm1z1mBdA6lhUazYbFWlZg4wQZ0lm9oa/Qwei3UQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=TGAkoVoDhFpjfFo/ol5Z28PElr00xt0hvoWnFP2Hvnn1vWR9G1Y33MtYXEKdWXfc+DFQwBGqMQzPJjrpzBeM77EisESbB/YZAtliSlHLhcn7oVkn9bSwbQhJ5bZxw7BIjT7us778NmIHkou4LJm3X6FnhgNl9yGLfm6iozvp/pw= Received: by 10.115.111.1 with SMTP id o1mr1278668wam.1172489134530; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:25:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.26.6 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:25:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:25:34 +0100 From: "Jacek Artymiak" To: radiobsd@googlegroups.com, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, netbsd-users@netbsd.org, misc@openbsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Free Advertising for the BSD Community X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:25:37 -0000 Hi, As some of you might know, I self-publish my books, which gives me full control of the contents, for better or worse. Because of the way my printers work, I must typeset my manuscripts to match their funky specs and sometimes I have a few blank pages left at the end. I need to pay for them anyway, so I thought I'd offer them to you for free. My next book is coming out in two weeks. I don't know how many pages I can offer but I though I'd give you an early warning :-) If you are a BSD professional, company, event organizer, project manager, etc. send me a private email and tell me what you'd like to advertise. The specs are simple: a black & white copy, 4x7 inches in EPS or TIFF at 600dpi. My choices are final. I give preference to non-profits, but I welcome businesses too. -- Jacek Artymiak devGuide.net :: RadioBSD From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 17:25:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C1C16A404 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from boris@brooknet.com.au) Received: from pecan.exetel.com.au (pecan.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2625313C481 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from boris@brooknet.com.au) Received: from 180.205.233.220.exetel.com.au ([220.233.205.180] helo=[192.168.0.148]) by pecan.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HLcZP-0003Ot-7j for chat@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:54:59 +1100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <4A2FB32B-6BD5-4CBF-ADBD-9CDF9234A607@brooknet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: chat@freebsd.org From: Sam Lawrance Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:54:58 +1100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: Subject: all your CSS are belong to us X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:25:39 -0000 http://www.twisted4life.com/ Sheesh, get your own :-) From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 19:38:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B3A16A405 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from mx1.highperformance.net (dsl081-163-122.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.163.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971D913C46B for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from [192.168.1.16] (w16.stradamotorsports.com [192.168.1.16]) by mx1.highperformance.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1QJcihH012644 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:38:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Message-ID: <45E33744.8000507@highperformance.net> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:38:44 -0800 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4A2FB32B-6BD5-4CBF-ADBD-9CDF9234A607@brooknet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4A2FB32B-6BD5-4CBF-ADBD-9CDF9234A607@brooknet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=2.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on s4.stradamotorsports.com Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: all your CSS are belong to us X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:38:47 -0000 Sam Lawrance wrote: > http://www.twisted4life.com/ > > Sheesh, get your own :-) > _________ The least they could have done is put their own copyright statements on there to cause a little uncertainty about the origin of the style. That's lazy even in plagiarism. Later, Jason From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 00:24:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965E616A468 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:24:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phi@evilphi.com) Received: from mail.twinthornes.com (mail.twinthornes.com [65.75.198.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BA413C4E3 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phi@evilphi.com) Received: from [10.9.70.4] (pool-72-90-124-58.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [72.90.124.58]) by mail.twinthornes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5529E41E; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:24:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45E37A1F.4070906@evilphi.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:23:59 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jason C. Wells" References: <4A2FB32B-6BD5-4CBF-ADBD-9CDF9234A607@brooknet.com.au> <45E33744.8000507@highperformance.net> In-Reply-To: <45E33744.8000507@highperformance.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: all your CSS are belong to us X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:24:03 -0000 Jason C. Wells wrote: > Sam Lawrance wrote: >> http://www.twisted4life.com/ >> >> Sheesh, get your own :-) >> _________ > The least they could have done is put their own copyright statements on > there to cause a little uncertainty about the origin of the style. > That's lazy even in plagiarism. Be careful. The owner/author/web-designer of/for twisted4life.com has done nothing wrong. To quote the CSS files: "This file, and any imported stylesheets are licensed under the BSD license." Keeping the copyright statements intact is a requirement of the license under which the CSS files are released. The BSD license expressly permits any and all re-use, therefore no theft has occured. Oh and BTW, plagiarism only applies to literary works. -- Darren Pilgrim From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 00:41:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B109516A405 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:41:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sequethin@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700F213C47E for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:41:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sequethin@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so415039wri for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:41:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=mp8YFOY7ISBHYlFFMMV7KztmC5qqsXUI1mrNCJyDrJb1ah+DZ6kmWmMGmrr9BgDKRqtUJQL8rHFo5oUzVKdAQkWbTbzc3X/YPYl0plI+z9cR/2q5r3TehRQt9cdkuIBPDztpwmUykj129Wg67KxR+sofLioDmGG4Xzl9iYmvjB4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Tec3FNJx2WGCKfqNTpg4fZ9qMcQfbEtxkZVBpl4tAN/zi1i+hBmC0muDI3qcBKwkpA7GRPc463gCQrnMAKmerQ2S01JdVTXvWx9wXyw3IMllePZpIDd4CpeuDTRiCQGZ6ilMJcRpIWUuh/sQux2MSKhFCFZpoKbb8s4ATpMy0Uc= Received: by 10.90.52.18 with SMTP id z18mr5654845agz.1172535232088; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:13:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.64? ( [70.107.203.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 8sm6574093agd.2007.02.26.16.13.51; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:13:51 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45E33744.8000507@highperformance.net> References: <4A2FB32B-6BD5-4CBF-ADBD-9CDF9234A607@brooknet.com.au> <45E33744.8000507@highperformance.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Michael Hernandez Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:13:49 -0500 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Re: all your CSS are belong to us X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:41:21 -0000 On Feb 26, 2007, at 2:38 PM, Jason C. Wells wrote: > Sam Lawrance wrote: >> http://www.twisted4life.com/ >> >> Sheesh, get your own :-) >> _________ > The least they could have done is put their own copyright > statements on there to cause a little uncertainty about the origin > of the style. That's lazy even in plagiarism. Well it does say the file is BSD licensed... it's still lazy though ;) Mike From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 07:49:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9EF16A403 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicole@unixgirl.com) Received: from web51815.mail.yahoo.com (web51815.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DF8213C48E for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:49:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicole@unixgirl.com) Received: (qmail 92693 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Feb 2007 07:49:43 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: oWwqoYUVM1nj1WhkCkhu12XejFed4KvNmWWZTUlcGKFmIOPqWEXVELBsShgtjP4_sdMfBl8GCskMZuDwsdsXHcMZmeAlyitLdN6E9GfjSbyQtUOE5Kw8m6_DG4bY5v1Vp0nOqwD9cvfT9oo- Received: from [67.112.21.27] by web51815.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:49:43 PST X-RocketYMMF: blabgoo Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:49:43 -0800 (PST) From: Nicole To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <436055.92382.qm@web51815.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: all your CSS are belong to us X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nicole@unixgirl.com List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:49:44 -0000 --- Michael Hernandez wrote: > On Feb 26, 2007, at 2:38 PM, Jason C. Wells wrote: > > > Sam Lawrance wrote: > >> http://www.twisted4life.com/ > >> > >> Sheesh, get your own :-) > >> _________ > > The least they could have done is put their own copyright > > statements on there to cause a little uncertainty about the origin > > > of the style. That's lazy even in plagiarism. > > Well it does say the file is BSD licensed... it's still lazy though > ;) > >Mike Um.. This is very odd: http://www.twisted4life.com was running Microsoft-IIS on FreeBSD when last queried at 27-Feb-2007 07:45:59 GMT - refresh now Site Report - Try out the Netcraft Toolbar! Yes there are possible reasons, but still, just a disturbing site. Nicole From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 16:15:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4824F16A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:15:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdworld@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D117F13C428 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:15:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdworld@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so175577muf for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:15:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=p5UheXyhTanamOTSjkcS2AL9lpeLe8tF0QYUtXIKVfU74gi1V5mrDI7XeUSrPP9oy++MDoQi6+Q/tHks4tkcL0YE+MXVrIyS6VnOwI05KnBvGOsIiZ8hQFx1YxYQtqlXv6kvyCgaXSb9uK3mjl6lNpnoKoO91xdNlrpWcNaIilA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=FYJ8ImXx0Aw0OdZXgrjej0FyUm51+LY08jOOFTHw1VhSf94siKHmtynlFWfjao1ZMXfRt3/9Z9hJnswwkEmoRdMyrkF62JiX4Qdkw714Iars+X/lgYpfVD7jwIPZyPBwFPxi76e/GVlbrXvy9l+oc1aPFjQzEU5Ptgvl8WZnNiw= Received: by 10.82.163.13 with SMTP id l13mr159172bue.1172679345409; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:15:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.107.14 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:15:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6199c3dc0702280815u3bea25fxbc9e5ba75945e297@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:15:45 -0500 From: "Benjamin Adams" To: freebsd-chat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Mailing list archive, Apache fix X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:15:47 -0000 I saw something different the past few: Not working http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/aic7xxx Working http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/aic7xxx/ Shouldn't Apache automatically put the / at the end? From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 18:51:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C8616A401 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:51:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E81E13C441 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:51:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so723715ugh for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:51:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=UmFLqzQL/DuOKODqMDtMMTmVcIlBw5QzguGminbtZFuwobgEf+gZXx7BcpxucM0Y/5UCZVsls67Y7F3pTN7GBjns7jFpgW6WkN53j7wO/smoi2PSX7uf6wZzFTTRoqtO1TzFJ3/4skyHkULLmznF7kQ1RuL2r3l9wLAlDvSWQXg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=W9236qgCzsNGGLPLLYj55UrO7zFYqRYJYImQiuYaKtiWNF+zYKDT2M6D9jVJEVwsP+MnhTTMllE5zTbovn3gB3marqSLvL/2b1wDMc1yEa8ur/i6reWI3s93PrQZg9BAX/rhlwEA8DQ6LWWFcvPYnWiiQPmzvT69RibTMvFcBE4= Received: by 10.66.243.2 with SMTP id q2mr3768911ugh.1172859761298; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:22:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.221.18 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:22:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <755cb9fc0703021022x11e32010pa50107bf5787139c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:22:41 +0000 From: "Alexandre Vieira" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Question about a specific ISP: Amen/Amenworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:51:59 -0000 Hello folks, I'm interested in a dedicated server plan from a somewhat big company called Amenworld (www.amenworld.com) but the sales technician is telling me that amen technicians can't install freebsd on the machines. After some googling I found that they are hosting some freebsd machines (if this counts for anything). Is there anyone here that by any change is a client on this company and runs freebsd? Thanks in advance Regards PS: I'm not in the chat@ mailing list, please add my e-mail. -- Alexandre Vieira - nullpt@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 20:38:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7D416A403 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:38:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=w9EZIJ=IH=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailout04.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout04.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.254.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80CE13C4A3 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=w9EZIJ=IH=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailscan29.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.29] helo=mailscan29.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout04.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1HNagq-0003pb-5P for chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 15:18:48 -0500 Received: from authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.8] ident=exim) by mailscan29.yourhostingaccount.com with spamscanlookuphost (Exim) id 1HNagp-0006Be-Nq for chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 15:18:47 -0500 Received: from authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.8] helo=authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan29.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1HNagp-0006Ba-GW for chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 15:18:47 -0500 Received: from cpe-71-72-98-197.columbus.res.rr.com ([71.72.98.197] helo=vixen42) by authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1HNagp-0004fO-65 for chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 15:18:47 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:18:52 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070303151852.2baef380@vixen42> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EN-UserInfo: 0d1ca1697cdb7a831d4877828571b7ab:1570f0de6936c69fef9e164fffc541bc X-EN-AuthUser: vvelox2 Sender: Vulpes Velox X-EN-OrigIP: 71.72.98.197 X-EN-OrigHost: cpe-71-72-98-197.columbus.res.rr.com Cc: Subject: Columbus, OH area X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 20:38:05 -0000 Any one know of any FreeBSD related groups or other interesting user groups or the like in this area?